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Drawing Ourselves Into Existence: Legacy. Milestone Comics and the Rise of Sweet Pea with Alim Leggett · Blerd’s Eyeview

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  Speaker 3: if you are really looking to get into some black comics,
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  Speaker 3: our guest is one of the indie creators. He's the
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  Speaker 3: creator and writer of Sweet Pea and he has a
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  Speaker 3: thirty shoe I want to say, thirty shoe coming out
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  Speaker 3: on the Kickstarter. Sweet Pea's coming up. Here's the writer
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  Speaker 3: and creator, A Lean Leggett. What's going on? A link?
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  Speaker 8: Hey, what's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 3: Bama is in the building. What's Obama as usual? Boobies? Ellen,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about sweepye. Yeah, so you were Jews on
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  Speaker 3: the show before, so you're practically family like as you see, people,
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  Speaker 3: we do show support to our black creatives. But this
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  Speaker 3: is what we do. This is what we do because yes,
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  Speaker 3: Marveling DC is a thing, of course, but let's be honest,
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  Speaker 3: this is where the magic happens. Like you know, you
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  Speaker 3: get tired of you get tired of seeing the same
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  Speaker 3: old Let's face it, we've all seen it, the same old,
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  Speaker 3: same stories with from the big well, I want to say,
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  Speaker 3: I would say the Big three, but at least the
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  Speaker 3: Big two, which is Marveling DC, still get some good
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  Speaker 3: stories out there, some still great writers out there. Shout
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  Speaker 3: out to Stephanie Williams who was our guest last week,
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  Speaker 3: so she was out there putting like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: work in But you know, when it comes to like
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  Speaker 3: the creative side of things, we don't get enough praise
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  Speaker 3: for the creatives. Who's on there. So we have Midnight Comics,
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  Speaker 3: Ray Comics, Impound Comics, Wingless Comics. You know, we have
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  Speaker 3: Sweet Peas. So let's talk about Sweetpea. This is the
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  Speaker 3: third issue you have for the Kickstarter correct, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: So for those who are new here and don't know,
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  Speaker 3: talk to people, tell them what about who is Sweet
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  Speaker 3: peat and what is this story about? All right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the diary is Sweepee is the story of Amani Walliams.
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  Speaker 6: It's really the story of her diary and what's contained
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  Speaker 6: within it. So we got this young girl who's, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just living her normal teenage life, and then Earth is
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  Speaker 6: bathed in this transformative dimensional energy, right, So there's an
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  Speaker 6: invasion going on and this energy is transforming people here
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  Speaker 6: and there or whatever. Ani just happens to be one
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  Speaker 6: of these people who's transformed, but in a way that
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  Speaker 6: she's not really aware that she's been changed, right, And
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  Speaker 6: she becomes such an important figure that she's gonna be
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  Speaker 6: the central focus of a major conflict around around the world.
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  Speaker 6: And it's just this young girl who's trying to live
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  Speaker 6: the best life. It's hard for me because it's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of twisting turns aside of this story.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, what we want, we want twist.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, but I gotta I gotta lean in, you know,
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  Speaker 6: to give the interest. So all right, yeah, but Amanimani
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  Speaker 6: is it's a focus.
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  Speaker 9: On what it means.
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  Speaker 8: To grow up inside of the city. Is what it is,
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  Speaker 8: what it's deeply about, right, So you know.
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  Speaker 6: That's inside of my mind. I don't really know how
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  Speaker 6: to speak in terms of giving you a hook, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I just it's from the heart of what I'm doing,
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  Speaker 6: you know, because these kids have so much going on
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  Speaker 6: inside of their lives and it's just really deeply important to.
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  Speaker 9: Me to get this.
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  Speaker 3: This is oh my god, this is true. See I'm
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  Speaker 3: a gen xer, so you know, the stuff we've seen
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  Speaker 3: and dealt with, we know, but then you look at
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  Speaker 3: this generation that's that's coming up. Now we're just like
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  Speaker 3: hold On fanst dealing with a lot, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: they're dealing with a lot of serious things.
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  Speaker 8: So the diary is sweepy, is a reflection of.
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  Speaker 6: How kids, even from good homes, can be impacted by
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  Speaker 6: the world outside, you know. So she's a girl who
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  Speaker 6: has a loving father who raises her one way, but
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  Speaker 6: then she faces this like traumatic conflict that challenges her
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  Speaker 6: her moral fiber.
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  Speaker 8: Right, great power now the.
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  Speaker 6: Twister is and money can harness this energy to create
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  Speaker 6: physical constructs, but it's happening on a subconscious level, right right.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, man, it's just it's just so many fun
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  Speaker 8: things aside this story.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you, like I said, you've been on before.
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  Speaker 3: So we talked a little bit about what her power
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  Speaker 3: set is is. It's almost it's almost like going through
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  Speaker 3: her her change of life as as an adolescent, but
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  Speaker 3: at the same time dealing not and not just dealing
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  Speaker 3: with you know, what every teenager has to deal with
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  Speaker 3: or young adult has to deal with, but dealing along
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  Speaker 3: not just with them personal selves but the outside world.
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  Speaker 3: But now you have this this extra added layer of
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  Speaker 3: and now you have a superpower that you may or
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  Speaker 3: may not be able to control, you not know, have
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  Speaker 3: a full understanding of it. So you're compound. It's what
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  Speaker 3: X men deal with. It's literally what the X Men
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  Speaker 3: deal with. So it's it's that whole level of that change,
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  Speaker 3: that change.
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  Speaker 8: Changes that we all go through.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, like I don't know, for me, it was, uh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I lost people growing up and through violence,
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  Speaker 6: through prison, through you know a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 8: And only now as an adult, when I look.
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  Speaker 6: At these as traumatic things, it's like this is like
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  Speaker 6: war zone stuff, you know that people come back and
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  Speaker 6: have PTSD.
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  Speaker 8: That they got.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like so I just want to unpack that, and
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to do that with all these little, you know,
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  Speaker 6: creative things.
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  Speaker 8: You see.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people understand how as
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  Speaker 3: a creative, not only just the creative, but a black
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  Speaker 3: creative has a way of marrying mirroring their lives, their
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  Speaker 3: life or what they've dealt with, what they've seen, and
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  Speaker 3: like you said, the PTSD, Like you just said the PTSD,
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  Speaker 3: there is a level it seems like for the general public,
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  Speaker 3: most adults forget what it's like to be a teenager
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  Speaker 3: or a young child that has to deal with forces
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  Speaker 3: that were not really equipped to deal with. Right, And
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  Speaker 3: we're talking anything past oh I got suspended from school
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  Speaker 3: or I got a detention or I got to believe No,
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  Speaker 3: there's other levels of like there's gang violence, there's shootings,
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  Speaker 3: there's like you said, losing friends, losing parents, losing loved
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  Speaker 3: ones in different fashions, and like no one prepares them
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  Speaker 3: for that type of lifestyle, and so to put that
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  Speaker 3: in the creative medium bring that out of people. It
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  Speaker 3: helps someone black, white, yellow, green, whatever, It helps someone
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  Speaker 3: say I know what that's like, I feel seen, I
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  Speaker 3: feel seen, you know, and and it still has that
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  Speaker 3: fantastical element added to it, so it actually helps in
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  Speaker 3: so many words. So I can dig that, I can
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  Speaker 3: dig that, and it does like you know, growing up
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  Speaker 3: reading Marvel in DC, there's I'm more Marvel than anything,
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  Speaker 3: be honest. But that's because if you look at what
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the heroes deal with Luke Cage, Spider Man, like,
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  Speaker 3: they're dealing with like real world applications exactly. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we all know what it's like or know someone that
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  Speaker 3: has been wrongly imprisoned or can't keep the job or
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  Speaker 3: trying to pay the rent, or we recognize those those hurdles.
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  Speaker 3: And then like with X Men, we as black people
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  Speaker 3: know what that feels like to be ostracized, be looked at,
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  Speaker 3: be feared just because we look different or we have
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  Speaker 3: different cultures or you know, and and be considered a
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  Speaker 3: monster or whatever the case may be. So here we
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  Speaker 3: have a young woman who who has those attributes and
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  Speaker 3: she's just trying to be better as well as understand
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  Speaker 3: what she's dealing with.
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  Speaker 6: Right, She's she's trying to survive and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: her relationship with her father is a guiden guiding light, I.
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  Speaker 8: Think the story.
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  Speaker 6: So she so she has these morals instilled are instilled
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  Speaker 6: in but these things that's outside of her control are.
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  Speaker 8: Happening to her and they change her and her mind
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  Speaker 8: is reacting in a way that is.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes it's a it's a defense mechanism at this point, right,
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  Speaker 6: you know, so she's just in full defense and survival mode.
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  Speaker 8: And you know, these these forces.
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  Speaker 6: You have the Bain, these extra dimensional draconian creatures that
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  Speaker 6: harvests this energy in the planet, and they're they're looking
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  Speaker 6: for her because for the first time in their history, uh,
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  Speaker 6: a life form is able to absorb this energy mm hmm.
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  Speaker 8: So they're trying to figure that out.
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  Speaker 6: And then you have another organization called Fighter Fighters in
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  Speaker 6: Defense of Humanity who are trying to defend the Earth,
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  Speaker 6: and the Mind gets into some things with them haphazardly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it sounds like the Friends of Humanity over
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  Speaker 3: the Man.
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  Speaker 8: And and then you have.
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  Speaker 6: You have the Resultists, who are the ancient enemies of
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  Speaker 6: the Bane and you know, they're.
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  Speaker 8: Tracking them and and just somehow someway in the middle
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  Speaker 8: of all of this, she just becomes a key figure
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  Speaker 8: in that conflict.
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  Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, like, she has a lot
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  Speaker 3: of for is to deal with beyond thankfully she had
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  Speaker 3: like you said, she has her father as a guy
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  Speaker 3: in life, So thankfully she has that support, right, but
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  Speaker 3: they'll still have the this this this shadow cabinet of
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  Speaker 3: whoever these people are that's doing whatever. Then you have
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  Speaker 3: an alien race that's just like, hey, you're not supposed
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  Speaker 3: to do that. We're gonna we need you to figure
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  Speaker 3: figure out how uh, and then you're just and then
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  Speaker 3: just regular life and to be to have so much
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  Speaker 3: weighed on you, it's intense. That is intense.
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  Speaker 8: So let's see what happens, right when you have someone
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  Speaker 8: I love. So let's see what happens when you have.
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  Speaker 6: A young girl's who's growing up into her womanhood right
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  Speaker 6: still child, still milable with this power and this energy
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  Speaker 6: to basically create bring her thoughts into existence almost right,
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  Speaker 6: and she's dealing with all of these different traumas and
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  Speaker 6: violence and hunger and all kinds of things of having
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  Speaker 6: to survive pretty much on her own and who he
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  Speaker 6: who she has to be to become to survive against,
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  Speaker 6: warning against the things that her father instilled in her
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  Speaker 6: in a in a from a world that's pretty much
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  Speaker 6: no longer relevant or here right mm hmm?
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  Speaker 3: Does you does? Does your being a father? Is that
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  Speaker 3: part of the influence of of what Sweepee is dealing with?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 8: You know a mistake that I made. I think I
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  Speaker 8: named the I named most of these characters after like
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  Speaker 8: so MONI is my right by name their middle name.
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  Speaker 6: And you know the other kids are in there as well,
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  Speaker 6: and that's now these characters in a way, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 8: But anyway, the kids are great kids are you know,
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  Speaker 8: college and everything else. I'm proud of them all.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, being a father, you know, like I have,
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  Speaker 6: even though they're all doing well in life, I know
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  Speaker 6: the world that's waiting for.
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  Speaker 9: Them better than they And I remember a word was
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  Speaker 9: remember not knowing right?
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  Speaker 3: And I think that I think, like you mentioned Sweet
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  Speaker 3: Pea's father, being that that guy, I take it that
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  Speaker 3: you have made yourself her father is elements of yourself
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  Speaker 3: being that that guy like you like you were for
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  Speaker 3: your actual children.
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  Speaker 8: I think I think I'm bleeding into to all this.
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  Speaker 8: His influence is what I want to be, you know,
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  Speaker 8: for our hope. You know where I'm born or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean I see some of my past
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  Speaker 6: experiences and money as well, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 3: I see who do you got the questions?
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  Speaker 7: You know, I always do. HI a little late, But
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  Speaker 7: my question is you mentioned that you pulled from your
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  Speaker 7: own life experiences in order to fuel your project and
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  Speaker 7: to fuel your book. Like you said that the middle
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  Speaker 7: the second name of the first name of your character
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  Speaker 7: is your actual daughter's middle name. So clearly your real
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  Speaker 7: life influences your work. Does any of your work influence
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  Speaker 7: your real life?
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  Speaker 8: His work has changed my real life and created my
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  Speaker 8: opportunities for me, you know. I mean it's the small victories, man.
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  Speaker 6: If If something that I create can take me to
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  Speaker 6: Texas to go to dream Kind, you know, and bring
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  Speaker 6: my wife with me and pay for both of our
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  Speaker 6: round trip tickets and our hotel and get us some food,
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  Speaker 6: and I go home with two hundred dollars at the
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  Speaker 6: end of that, and I got to shake hands with
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  Speaker 6: some people that you know, I've never thought that I
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  Speaker 6: would meet and realize that that's a huge one for me,
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  Speaker 6: right and also being at a small local kind and
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  Speaker 6: having a father come back up to me with tears
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  Speaker 6: in his eyes, telling thanking me for making this book.
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  Speaker 8: Like who could imagine something like that.
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  Speaker 6: Happening from me just giving comic books a shot, Right, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing, It's amazing. How I'm glad you said that, because
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: you do have a sect, and I think that that
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: pocket of people is growing smaller where they say comic
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: books are for children, No, they make comic books for children,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: but it's still you have different ranges of ages that
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: it speaks to, you know, and it just depends on
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: what it is, your your flavor is, and in every aspect,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: no matter what the medium is, whatever, whether it's main,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: mainstream or indie, every last one of these books have
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: a level of politics in it. It doesn't need to be.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: It may not be like politics as we know it,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: like with the government, but it may be like politics
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: deal with neighborhood or family or lifestyle for that matter.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So and I think a lot of that, a lot
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: of those those pockets are growing smaller, and we're in that,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: thank god, because they do you know, oh, there's just
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: coloring books, you know whatever, And they would toss about
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Thank god they don't do that now. But seeing those
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: types of influences, you know, like you said, to be
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: able to go to dream Con and rub elbows with
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of people that you normally would not have
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: seen before, and then like you said, to go home
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: to go to dream Con and have all those instances
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: happen with you and your wife and be able to
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: and then still walk home with money in your pocket
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: that you really didn't have to spend much in anything. Yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: that's definitely a win. If I don't know, so, it's
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: like it helps because it's like, let's face, we know
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: what it's like to get ready to get geared up
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: to go to a convention that's out of state. It
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: ain't it ain't cheap.
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: It's getting books are heavy too.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Oh man, now just say he was the money I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: had to scale down. He said he noticed the short
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: boxes and the long box. Oh, the long boxes that
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: is at Mama Fury's house. I kept the short boxes.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: My hear it at home base because I'm like, yo,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: that's what made me switch, because like like you said,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: they are heavy, and you got to think people that
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: are out here listening and watching when you have a
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: creative coming to a convention, put some money aside and
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: get there. But trust me to pay to have this
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: loaded up, flown or driven to the destination where they're
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: going to sell this stuff. They want you to they
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the best thing they want is I have no more
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: product to sell. That's what they want.
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: Ain't going home with an empty suitcase.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: That is easy on the pockets in so many ways,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: especially the way airlines charge. So it's definitely something like that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: So the concept of Sweet Peep, we talked about what
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: she's dealing with and how she's coming to be. Let's
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: talk about the inception, how how the whole thing started,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Like what made you saying I'm going to sit down
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: and write this comic about this young girl, her father
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and everything she's dealing with, And what were your influences?
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: So it's pretty standard, but it's been a thing for
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: me since childhood. You know, I used to I'm one
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: of the kids that would impose myself on a character,
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: right Withjeta.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: My guy or things like that, right, and.
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: You know, I would create other stories for them we had.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: I used to do a lot of message board compilation
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: stories where maybe like five or six people would all
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: contribute to a story together, the message Messenger.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: Post days, Dungeons and Dragons, stuff like that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I had, I.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: Had and have a lot of characters and idea is
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: inside of my mind.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: When the pandemic hit and I got a break from work,
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: right I was home on furlough for a while, I
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: started getting back into art, just painting and you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: going out to sidewall pop up shops and things like that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: Shout out to U City Art, Well, Sean, I saw
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: you in New York. You're the man.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So you know, that led to me finding comic
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: book creative groups, independent comic book creative groups on Facebook,
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: which are treasure troll for anybody starting out. You know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: you can find a lot of connections. You can work
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: with a lot of people and have access to the
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: indie community. It's a crazy thing because you can end
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: up with rubbing elbows with people that have been in
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: the game for forty or fifty years.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, all right now, it's not really a whole lot
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: of gatekeeping in there.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: But yeah, so, I mean during that time, I started
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: thinking of these ideas of the diary sweepy just.
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: Looking at the kids and things like the last of us.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: The first the first one back on p S three
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: was heavily heavily influenced the idea, but just meeting those
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: guys inside of the indie comic groups Stephen Duffy from
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Apex Comics UK specifically, it's just really like, walk me
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: through to the possibility that these ideas that I had
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: and you know, these imaginings from since childhood are actually
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: a possibility I can participate and get on the other
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: side of the curtain of the things that I've been enjoying.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: All my life right right right, cartoons and all of that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Sore right See, this is what this is what I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: like I talk about talking about a lot of indie
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: comics and starting to a lot of blurred indie comic creators,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: is there's this level of there's a level of respect
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: that's going on. There isn't this that monkey in a
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: barrel mentality that's happening. There's like, hey, let me show
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you a few things that that might help you along,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: you know, whether it's the Kickstarter, whether it's a Patreon,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: whether it's web tunes, whether it's just getting things started
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: off and who to talk to, like if you need
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: a letter or hey, I might know somebody. I'll tell
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: you what I might be able to do it. You
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: might know and they might know an anchor, You might
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: know a penciler, or you know something that helped flesh
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: it out for you. And not a lot of time
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: that's not talked about.
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: A lot.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: That's not talked about enough. You know how this community
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: really backs each other when it comes to getting those
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: products out there because it's not the same thing from everybody,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: every every every Blurred comic book owned company that has
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: any kind of novel out or a graphic novel or comic.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: It's always something different. There's so many different stories out there,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and it makes it it's refreshing because you know, how
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: many times can Bruce lose how how many times can
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Bruce Wayne lose a sidekick? How many times can Peter
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Parker lose a job or a girlfriend or be laid
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: on rent. We've heard these stories before, but tell these
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: tell a different type of story that's coming from us
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: with a person that has a totally different power set
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: that we haven't seen before, that we're not used to
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: talking about or we haven't talked about before. That's what
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I love about this community. We tell these stories in
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: a different way that nobody else has been able to do.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Who, so, I'm sorry, No, I was going to say,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: I just I encourage everybody that has an inkling of
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: one to make a comic book.
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: Hey, yeah, you know too. You know, try out some
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: of these groups. Look up independent comic book creative.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Groups and just you know, lurk for a little while
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: see how other people is talking and communicating with each other.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: It's not hard to jump in. You can go at
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: your own pace. You can create your story, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: if that's this is what you want to do and
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: and get it out there, it's possible.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: We just regular people like everybody else and were able
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: to do great things. You can do a great thing.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Midnight Comics Lloyd and Natasha. Uh they are.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: They are the epitome of one of the hardest working
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: couples in comics right now. Like they they don't play.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: I love it and I love I love them too.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Man, I love seeing them when man Lloyd and Tasha,
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: it is just great. They're great people, positive people. You know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: they look out first. They think to look out first.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, to make the way I said, hey,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: they've been on the show a few times and I'll say, hey, hey, hey,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: y'all need to go to sleep.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Go to sleep.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, keep giving us the stuff. But you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: like I literally had them on one time and Natasha
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: was doing something, she was describing something. She was like,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: oh my god, I got another idea, and I said, well,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: all right, uh so that's what I enjoyed. But go
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: ahead with you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: So, if money was no object, what's the what would
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: you like to see the endgame b for Sweetpea.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: If money was no object, man, they come.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: So I'll tell you the reality. I'm going to give
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: you issue for.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: When I made Issue one, I said, I'm going, I
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: say issue one afford mm hm.
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: Found out later you should never do that, but I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: going to give it. We give you one through for
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: and then I'm going to let the audience decide.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: But if money was no object, and I had the
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: time and entered, you know, capability to take this story
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: to its completion and work on the other ideas that
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: I have, I would take the Diary of Sweetpee into
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: the finale of her adult life and into as far
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: as three hundred, four hundred years into the future to
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: see to to see like, okay, now, what if a
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Mini's diary is now like some kind of relic of
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: the past, And how would people interpret it?
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean? How would they view her
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: and her actions? What got lost in translation? What got changed?
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Did she think they think she's a guy? Do they
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: do they think that she's a demon?
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: Like I would take it. I would be a happy guy.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Melan mindset. I need Sweetpeet to leaves get a spin off.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Mister alc Bulin has mentioned like Impound Comics, Watchman Technique,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Peeking Hammer, Eagle clau is another one that they mentioned.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: So they are out there Dark Camera he mentioned Dark Camera.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: These these are titles that are out there. And and
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I'll mentioned I mentioned Midnight Comics again. They were I
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: had Lady Mandalor. They were at was it New York
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Comic Con? I think it was. It was it was
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: one out East and Lady Mandelor was there and I said, Hey,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: get me something from Good Natasha And she said which
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: one you want? I said, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: Since you know, Free Club are going loud on Kickstarter
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: early March.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure the exact date, but they have a
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: compilation book and I think this thing, I don't I
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: don't want to go too far.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: I know it's over one hundred pages.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yea. They're they're they're about there. They're
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: from the pop up like really soon.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: But she.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, being like they've been
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: talking about it, and she said she went up to
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: she was like they were sold out, Like I seen
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: a post from Lloyd and like they were doing a video.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: They were like, we are sold out, and I'm like crap,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, they got a website. So
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I ended up getting some stuff from But it it
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: shows you that the need is there. That's right. It
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: was be yep brook Brooklyn kmak, That's what it was.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: And I said, it tells you that the need is there. Like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: you know, the community, not just the black community, but
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: the community as a whole. They want that fresh those
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: fresh stories. They want something new. They want something that's
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: not been talked about or seen before. They want the
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: cool art shout out the King and Queen Lyon like,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: they want the cool new characters with these sweet ass designs.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: They want those need to give, need.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: To take notice. You know, yeah, they should.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: They should come and walk before sometimes and see how
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: empty these tables from these indie people get.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Oh man, man, there's nothing worth. You know how you
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: go to a convention and you're supposed to do like
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: your rounds to see, like you don't want to buy
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the first thing you see because you'll be broke, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: but you do want to make your rounds to say, Okay,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I'll be back for that. I'm gonna keep that ina,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: lock that in, I'm gonna keep back, come back with it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: A lot of times these indie creatives good luck, good
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: look man, they it goes so fast, especially when they
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: have word of mouth and people know who they are,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: and it was like I will get it. We have
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: this new one, give it to me, I will, I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: will take it, you know. And it's one of those
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: things that, uh, we we really need to be mindful
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: of because a lot of people are hunting for like
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: of course we do. You know, if you're a collector
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and you're a reader like myself, Yeah, yeah, of course
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: you're gonna hunt for certain stuff. You know, you're gonna
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: hunt for certain comics. But those indie comics, there's something
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: to be said, like, uh, the comic Black. I wish
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: they had to continued that one. They came out a
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: few years ago, that that was that was something different.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Uh. Right now you have over at Ignition Comics The
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Roots of Madness, and then you have Temporal both by
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Stephanie Williams. You know these you know, yeah, yeah, you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: you have a lot of these creators out here who's
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: like really putting in the work, and they're really putting
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: in like a lot of stuff that you're just not
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: gonna find anywhere else. And it's it is, it's refreshing.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: It feels good, like because a lot of times I'm
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: not gonna lie when I grab some of my mainstream stuff.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: The first thing is I'm reading or Black Panther in Storm,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: which I'm still wating waiting for the We had a
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: perfect writer for Black Panther and Tyee Coats his run
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: was was amazing. Christopher Priest's run was amazing. Uh you
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: know uh uh morero Ayadelli's run on Storm and he's
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: currently writing Storm the strongest I think it's the strongest adventure.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: He's currently writing that now. But still those tend to
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: be like at the top of my pile, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: and it's just like, oh, I want to see what
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: this I want because we are yearning for those types
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: of stories and for people, you know. And yes, there's
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: some certain ones that like, Okay, they got this right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: I like this.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I like to spend you know. I like how they
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: did this with Luke Cage now being a mayor of
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: New York, and you know, I like how certain things
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: are going. But when you get the indie stuff, mmm,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: any stuff make you hungry, You get the unexpected.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, getting experience that that it's never the first
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: time again with.
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: With mainstream you know.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: That's that's that's one thing that you that you know
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: and you expect certain things from you. You're free from
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: all of that when you when you pick up an
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: indie comic. Right initially, anyway, we would like to be
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: to grow up with you know, grow old with you.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: But yeah, you know that that.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah really says Actually in black psychoanalysts as well as
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: black's and anthropology need to be involved in writing these
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: characters as also. He gets it, you get like I meanted.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I mentioned Coach writing. His run on Black Panther was
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: probably one of the best modern runs on that character,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: and it don't. And as much as we fuss about
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: him in the Storm not being together the way he
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: wrote them in that book, in that run, I'm like,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I'll take this because you know, you're not writing them
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: off as like these bitter exes or anything. You're writing
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: them like, no matter what, they're down for each other.
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: Text me or email me the name of this.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was Nation Beneath ash Black Panther,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Nation Beneathing Beneath our Feet. Yeah it was. It was
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: a pretty good run. Helped introduce the intergalactic uh, the
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Nation of Wakanda on top of that. So it's really
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: refreshing them when you get a lot of these indie comics,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: especially blurred black indie comics runs, and we don't get
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: to talk about enough. We talk about them a lot here,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: but still don't get to talk about him enough. So, Uh,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the Kickstarter, let's talk about your kickstarter? Uh is it?
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Is it live now? I think it's live now?
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: No?
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: No, No, we're not live yet. We're still in the
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: pre launch phase. I do have a stretch goo that's
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: live right now.
• 39:08
  Speaker 11: Okay, get our followers up on the pre launch page up,
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: so every in increments of fifty there will be more
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: digital rewards tied to that for everybody that backs. So
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: before we even launched, we are you know, we are
• 39:23
  Speaker 11: already trying to build a little bit of momentum.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: But we go live on March twenty fifth, okay early,
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: very specialist for the first two days, so it's another
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: another incentive to be notified when we launched.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Here's the pre launch there, the pre launch updates right
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: there for those who are lost in the sauce that
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: can't see And I'm gonna put it in the in
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the in the chat as well, so people could say,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I did I didn't see it, I didn't get it
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: in I'm gona give you a chance to so you
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: can actually see it in the group chat, in the
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: in the in the chat, so you can't say, oh,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: we don't know here it goes right there.
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: Now, I gotta go run and populate that a little
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: bit more.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: So, all right, So, Lene, what's next for after the Kickstarter?
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: What's next?
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: Well, the book is the book. I just got the
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: letter pages back high definition were ready to go.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: I got free coverage where you got sketch covered options
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: from Marvel artists, a lot of great things coming. So
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: all we need now is the print. So if we
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: get the money to print, and that's it, job well done.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: If we go high enough, then you know we can
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: get we can get immediately into issue number four. But
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: I know Kickstarter is made in a way that you
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: get the money that you need to do the project
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: that you're trying to do.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: M H.
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: For me, this being my first series, I want to
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: make sure say with confidence that I'm going to be
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: able to deliver.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: So these issues I paid for out of pocket and
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: I'll do it again for issue for.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: But that come with the you know, I got to
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: dig in the couch.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: It's the support this needed. People got a bigger k. Look,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: maybe gonna think about it, like, don't get out my couch, grandma.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for some change, you know what I'm saying
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: right Like, I can't say I can only sell so
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: much Plasma.
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: I mean, I would like to go go on tour
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: again for a couple of conventions, local and far.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: I would like to get say I can get you
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: issue for and you know, two months from now or
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: three months from now, But that depends.
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: On how far we can go with this.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: So people, you understand that the Kickstarter is the key
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: in the pre launch. Kickstarter is the key. The support
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: is the key. You understand, do you understand? Uh, we're
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: gonna take a quick break, a Liam, Can you stick around?
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: We got some news and then we're gonna be talking
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: about Marvel or not Marvel Milestone Comics.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, I'll stick around.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna be right back with our guest, A
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Lim Leggett, writer creator of Sweet Pee. We're gonna cover
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: a little bit of news and uh, a couple of
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: trailers we want to check out, So we'll be right backsport.
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• 47:25
  Speaker 3: dues to cover. So first up, we finally got the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: trailer for Spider and Their starring Nicholas Cage, just coming
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: out on Prime. I want to say, later, is it
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: this monthing? Next month? I want to say it's next month. Yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: it's real soon. So we're gonna take a look at that. Now.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: For the last time we seen Spider Noir was in
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Spider Man Into the Spider Verse and let's face it,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: in Across the Spider Verse. Uh, and it was also
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: voiced by Nicholas Cage. So but this is gonna be
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: a live action version, and this is gonna be interesting
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to see how they played this out. So here's a trailer.
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: Doctor, tell me why you already know how it is?
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: Well, then let's start from the beginning.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: To Teck, Daunt and Pulses.
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: I managed to suppress them most of the time.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: What's going on then, wife?
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: What the hell happened to him?
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I beat up some guys in a bar, and my god.
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: Blaster, what do you think you're about?
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: Over there?
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: They have an existential crisis. If I'm honest, it struck
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: a nerve. Huh, that actually looks interesting. I'm not gonna
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: lie now, especially since say there's two ways to watch it.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: It's similar to wherewith by Night that was on Disney Plus,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: where it was started out black and white and then
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: like we with the last few minutes of it, it
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: goes to color.
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: To be honest, the black and white looks more appealing
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: to me.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: With the time period, right, if it's.
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: The nore aesthetic, I'm gonna watch it in black and
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: white first. It just looks good. And did that look
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: like some sort of nineteen forties electro I.
• 50:33
  Speaker 14: Was gonna say, I think we got our early nineteen
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: thirties as a couple, Sinistor sixtiesers in there.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Vulture Electro I I can't remember it's another one,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: but yeah, there's a couple. There are a couple like
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: like far I said, Sinister six introductions in this one
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: nineteen forties versions, So it's gonna be interesting. I'm like,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I'm like I'm like you, whoopee. I'm a watching him
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: black and white first, but I'm watching in color too.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: He's not a Peter No, it's been private, okay, yeah yeah,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah. For those who are who don't know, Ben
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Riley in the six one sixth universe is the clone
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: who can't seem to catch a break, who whose life
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: is even worse than Peters. That's the city. Like, He's like,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you're living my life, dude, We're the same guy. So yeah,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's it's nineteen forties Ben Riley. Everything, the
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: aesthetic of everything is very much nineteen forty. Yes, forties esque.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I'm actually looking forward to seeing how that looks.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: He's a World War One veteran.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: In this one, right yeah, yeah, likes to punch Nazis,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: remember when.
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so yeah, it is he is.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: It's the same. It's the same. It's the same spot
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: in the war from into the Spider Verse.
• 52:06
  Speaker 14: I'm just curious that this is before, after, or between
• 52:10
  Speaker 14: the two to three movies, because I was looking for
• 52:12
  Speaker 14: the Rubik's que to pop up somewhere in here. I
• 52:14
  Speaker 14: feel like that's gonna be the telltale sign.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I'm thinking it might be I'm thinking it
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: might be before and in his form current, like like
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: they're gonna tell you like how this happened to him
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: and everything else, and then what he's currently doing, but
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: probably give you the teas that will be nice little
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: to see the t's like near the end.
• 52:41
  Speaker 14: Yeah, Like I like, I'm not expecting us to tie
• 52:43
  Speaker 14: in anything, but if at the end we get hey, Spartan,
• 52:45
  Speaker 14: what's up?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: If at the end of this.
• 52:47
  Speaker 14: Week get a portal for this first pick up or
• 52:51
  Speaker 14: would leading leading either into the first movie or the
• 52:55
  Speaker 14: end of the second one going goes back to get
• 52:57
  Speaker 14: the gang back together again.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I would, but I'm not expecting us to set up
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: anything like super crazy.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think they want to. I think
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: they would do I would. I would be okay with
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: them doing what you said the first round, like give
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: us the full full first season how many episodes, and
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: then at the very end it's like the first pick up.
• 53:21
  Speaker 14: Yeah, and then I mean clearly they're gonna drop two
• 53:24
  Speaker 14: separate black and white the color version to drive the
• 53:26
  Speaker 14: numbers of but I'll check out both just to see
• 53:28
  Speaker 14: if potentially there's a difference in each episode or something.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: We Oh, I know it. I'm sure it will be because,
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: like Whoopy said that black and white it fits the
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: aesthetic of watching like an old nineteen forties black and
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: white film and at the time, yeah, that that whole
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: time period and everything else, and then to flip back
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: and watch it in color and then kind of get it.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: You get a different perspective. See, we're kind of like
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: centophiles over here. Okay took it took me a saying like, Okay,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: what are y'all talking about it? Oh, black and white.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect to see Spider Man on Prime of
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: all places. It just feels like.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: It's a gamble though, well the crazy watch it a
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: while back.
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: But it's just that, you know, Nicholas Cage, him voicing
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: Spider Noir.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Is one thing.
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: Him playing Spider Noir is an entirely different thing, because
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: his filmography over the last few years has been all
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: over the place. There's Mandy's Face Off, there's con Air, there's.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Like con Air is probably the calmest I've seen him. Yes,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: he's the calmest I've seen him. It was in con Air.
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Fate between face Off, he was he had a
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: quirky edge to him, raised in Arizona. It was. It
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: was a quirky Yeah, actually I got one better while
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: he was the most common he's ever been. But every
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: but if I guarantee now everybody has watched this movie angry, Yes,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: yes he was for a god, that was that violent.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: He was calm as all get out. Yes that that
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: was there. I'll do like because it made drive angry,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: made you guess the entire time, what is this dude's deal?
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Like who are you that part? So it was like
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: it's it's It definitely gave that vibe like he's he
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: has very quirky energy.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Even even the second Ghostwriter film, which a lot of
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: people and I and I admit, yeah, there were some
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: moments I'm like, all right, you might you might have
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: steered too far left on this one, like a little
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: too far left, you know, when it came to like
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: the ghost Writer transformations and everything else. I'm like, dude,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: you've been doing this for a while and it still hurts,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Like hell, you might be able to just breathing. They
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: got shots for that, now, yeah, they got I mean,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. I what Gameo del Toro Will
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: tried to do with spirit a Vengeance was a little
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: bit better than the overhyped first one. But it's like, sir,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: you kind of you kind of missed the exit and
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: kept going like it was it was there, you were
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: you were right there, and they're like, no, no, no,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: you moved over the lane too soon? Yeah, too soon
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: or too late or too long? You overtot the eggs
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: like and and Idris Elba's character is always gotta be memorable, tough.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I was saying, people remembers Elbow was in the m
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: c U just yeah, as one.
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: Off shot a little more. And Morris was in this
• 56:44
  Speaker 14: series that I remember seeing that dude on Vine. Now
• 56:47
  Speaker 14: he's a was it Oscar emmy older for and.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: He still and he still holds it. He still stays
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: to the roots. Yeah, he still stays to his roots,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: which is a good thing, you know. I'm just thinking
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: thinking of I'm sorry, I just seen myke I've never
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: seen h what is the show?
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: My girl.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Zoe Deson now, the new Girl, the New Girl, the
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: new Girl. I've never watched the show. But the clips
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: are hilarious, and it's always the clips of her roommates,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: that's those those are the hilarious. Oh shoot, there's a
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: connection because one of the one of the one of
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: the members, one of the cast mates on New Girl
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: is actually Peter B. Parker from Spider Man into the
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Spider Verse and across the Spider Verse.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. You got Amy for his
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: small role he played in Fargo.
• 57:45
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it was coming from that, that early internet erat
• 57:47
  Speaker 14: as actor. And now the mc U or Spider versus
• 57:52
  Speaker 14: the dude is continuously climbing the ladder man shamn oh.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: I love I love it. I love seeing him. I
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: love seeing him like you know when you're actually when
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: it's an unexpected win. I love seeing it. I love
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: seeing it. So there is another trailer that I said
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: I am not watching until we are live tonight. Nice
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: because I said one. I just told my wife prior
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: to the show. I said, there are a lot of
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: movies coming out this year because her and my mother
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: in law was watching Venom the Last Dance. Yeah, And
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: she said, we didn't go see this, did we? And
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: I said no? And She's like, why not? And I
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: said the time window because movie theater. You know, movie
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: theaters don't run movies as long and by the time
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: you get a chance to are you off, I'm off,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: I'm off, you're off. And by the time it's like, oh,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: it's coming to Netflix. So it was just like okay,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: so and I didn't miss anything. So I watched it
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh it is go show you that
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: miss Chen is the strongest person in Venom's universe and
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: in the Spider Verse, because miss is in the Spider
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Verse for a scene, you know, and she is unfased.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: That woman is the true demon of the entire movie.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: If if if as Symbia didn't phase her. Yeah, the
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: spot shows up and she's sitting in the convenience store
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: and she's just like, yeah, what do you want? That
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: part was funny. So I was like, oh, missus Channing's
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: in here. Okay, I'm with it. So here is this
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: special little trailer about a father and son and their
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: ragtag adventures.
• 59:40
  Speaker 15: M talking about the Mandalorian and grocuh.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, hey yo, is that the the Razor Trust is back?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 11: Wait information for this rights I'll tell you whatever you want.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: I'm looking for a hot close for the night.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 12: Thank you, gangsters or criminals, Long live the Empire.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: We'll take out every pad guy in your tack of cards.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I gotta take this back for a second, because so
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: just way too much's cool that happened. I gotta take
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: this back up a few phrames because that I'm sorry. Okay,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: here we go. That armor is risk it is, and.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: So is the cGy. All the budget went for this one.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Long live the Empire.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: We'll take out every pad guy in your tack of cards.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: It isn't about revenge, It's about preventing another war.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Gotta love.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, is that has again?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Oh? It is.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: Helmet for going into Hag's way. Check your arm out, medicatable.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 9: Lift centuries beyond me. I won't always be around to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 9: protect him.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Are you scared? You should be?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: Do we run or do we fight? I like this kid? Yeah?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you waiting for?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: Let's save the rest for after dinner.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: On the eggs again? What do you say?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: Frogged?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: And I?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am way past sold. Yeah it's next, no
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: matter what.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Who was the hunter that we just saw again?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: That was It looked like cad Bane. That looked like
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: cad Bane.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Cad has the tubes coming out of his face. And
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: if this is this is after book.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 14: Aboba fet Cat's dead, Aaron Black, That's what I'm like,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 14: I'm there's something I think we've seen.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Also, I didn't know.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Again, I'm leaning to y'all. I am just now watching
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: the Clone Wars from the beginning, so my knowledge is
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: limited at best.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: Well, I see Buddy from I think Rebels Rebels.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: It's like his second appearance live action. Mm hmm.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: Species. But how much Robot is campaign? Anyway? What happened
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: that completely droid?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 14: That's what I'm saying. It's definitely a different bounty hunter
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 14: than than Cad. I thought it was because of the hat,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 14: but it's gotta be somebody else, right. Also, I guess
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 14: huts can can fight. Apparently, I didn't know that they could.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 14: They could do anything action based except give orders.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Well, the Sun is a little more healthier.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 14: Of a son that we rescued in the first Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 14: I was wondering what happened to that kid.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeremy Allen is doing the voice.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Of his of that right, right, that's what he got
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: casts for dad.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Yo, we got the Razor cris back. That was the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: first heartbreak in that whole series. I ain't gonna lie, though,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: I do missed I do miss the muscled up star
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: fighter though. Yeah, that might I missed that one. But yeah,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: the Razor Cress being back, I was like, that makes sense. Yeah,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: because I was just like, oh, it's cool that father's
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: son is on this not Boos Starfighter, but uh yeah,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: I need the Razor cris This man's a bounty hunter.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, where's he? Where's he taking his body?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I think that was Java's son, either in the arena
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: or next to him on the throne. Yeah, because there
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: was two huts when he was talking to it, and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I think I just heard a hut.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that is crazy.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: We saw three.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I just don't know who was so glad job, I'm
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: so glad. I waited. I'm so glad I waited. All
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: I gotta say all I got says the lego sets
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: foruld me crazy.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: That and then was he was Java speaking English?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: I know the sun?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: You know that was him on the on the seat there.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: You know what, I don't think it's Java.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Because then there was two hunts. I think they're expanding.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think that was Java.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I'm blanking. Where are we post a pre episode six.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: For this series? I forget episode sick another Jedi? Uh so, yeah, Jedi?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: This post if it's post yeah, Joba.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Is that's why the Empire is still around, because it's post.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: If it's post episode six, they never mind Java got choked.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Out on Uh yeah, he got choked out, and he
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: got choked out of Return of the Jedi.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because this.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Is after this is after Boba fet when he fell
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: into startlight crawled out that it's supposed to be tying
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: in go ahead.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: I did some you know, searching, and it turns out
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: that the bounty hunter is from the Clone Wars, somebody
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: named q Zone.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he was. He was part of Kad's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: crew initially because he did.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: Have a pack.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: He was wrong, he did have a pack. He had
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: a pack. I gotta look at that one again.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: Broadcaster and drives a ship called the Guillotine. I didn't
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: watch the Clone Wars. I'm a little.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: Watch it.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 12: Is.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: It's a lot that happens in Clone Wars.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: And then I'm trying to figure out I haven't finished it.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: I should say that I have watched it, I just
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: haven't finished it.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 14: No, are we back on a planet Yoda with the
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 14: meditating and the swamp and I see the helmet's not
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 14: staying on again.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: He's been this road again. Yeah, yeah, but he didn't
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: take it off.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: Someone took it off him.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, sound that question.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 14: So I think they still get punished the same, Like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 14: don't you still got to go to like the Mandalorian
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 14: waters a lake?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Well the first time, the first time when he took
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: the helmet off, Uh, it was who was it? Bill
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Burr and somebody, But they never said anything. He was
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: just like paid in so many words. He was like,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything because I look the way, was like,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: did you remove your headts? She didn't go voluntarily, she
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: just did you remove your helmet? Then you're Mandalorian no more.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: It's like you gotta go all the way to back
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: to the planet, just get baptized and come back. Now
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: you go right back to the planet after all sudden
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: excited because this looks like it's gonna be really good.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: And that and whatever that giant swamp creature he's fighting.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: So I thought it was he saw the Oh I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: don't even have it here. I don't even know what
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: it's called. Give me a moment. He saw it in
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: the lake when he went to rebound. So when I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: saw that, I thought it was that.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't oh that one. Okay, now says this
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: road of the hut, that's the hut that man Laurien's fighting.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I didn't know get swollen.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: He said what he said the monsters lake coming back
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: to two scoops like you don't come back again. I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: look look the minute he said, will hunt down every
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: boundy that's in there in this deck and groc who
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: gives him the salute, and I'm like, okay, we're here now.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Uh with his own armor. Check your armor. He's like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: check your armor. He's got a little breast. It looks
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: like his shoulder plate. It's his arms. He had an
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: arm blast. He had a little arm blaster, and then
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: he had what look like the shoulder plate man for
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: for Den Jarrings armor. He like, here you wear this, said,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna come. I'm gonna make sure to get covered.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: That chess play is gonna be spectacular.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm curious to see how what stories get tied
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 14: into this or what this is gonna be a wrap
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 14: up for in a setup too, because I know this
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 14: is they set us Mandohska and Boba fed are all
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 14: leading into this. I'm curious if all of them show up,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 14: or if John Carlo's character comes back again.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure I would think with the book of
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Boa Fed not happening again, they're probably get cycled.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: They're gonna probably get cycled in this movie.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 14: Well apparently they said all those series are coming. I don't,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 14: I mean the typical Star Wars three, but they I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 14: remember them saying like this movie was gonna be a
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 14: culmination of all three series.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: Like Merging.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two hours that in uh and and him getting
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: the floating bassinet, he says, what are you waiting for?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Very much the what are you waiting for? He's like, yeah,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: because I'm tired of carrying you, you and your little legs.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: You are you are grown, sir, you are no, you
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: are five pounds something wet and you got my armor on.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta walk man, Yeah, that is brot, the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: job of son. Yeah yeah. Man Mayby said, hey, look
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: you and lady man Lord rest up, please please the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: minute the minute they said migraines, and I'm like, say
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: no more, it's.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: Changing weather.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: To go hot to gold and right back to hot.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Look like I said, my for my for look, my
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: circadian rhythm was off for like a month and a half.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: It's just now locked in, you know. So for those
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: of that know circadian rhythm is when your body is
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: in tuned with the time change, that's right. The time
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: change happened a month ago, and they like daylight freaking
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: savings time. I swear it, yes, I literally know. I
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: look at I told my wife, I say it up,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: we gang, it's now dark at six o'clock and it's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: now dark at six fifteen. As your president, I will,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: as your president, I will make sure daylight saving times
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: is destroyed. Whoever sat whoever sat there and said let's
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: put the clocks an hour ahead of time and thought
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: it was a good idea. That person should be tad
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: and feathered.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: Fall back doesn't bother me.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: It's I'm a spring baby, So I I like having
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: my daytime freaking to get off work out, like looking
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: at dark skies when I get off at three point thirty,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, gotta it felt like it felt like
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: a magua. I'm like, gotta be indoors before five o'clock.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: It's gonna get dark. That's that whole thing of just
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: losing an hour of sleep, like no zone. It was
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: a smart state. They said there and said, we're good.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: What do we gotta change?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 14: That was throwing over by Star Wars too, like y'all
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 14: travel between different planets and galaxies and rotations. Young body
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 14: clock ain't thrown like all the way off.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Well, a little grew up on the planet with two sons,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: so I think he's just fine. I might say he was.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: He was considered a heavy world er, So I guess
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: they're they're all different. I guess. I guess you don't
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: if you're not on Earth. I guess time zones don't
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: effect the way everybody else does, like time zones gravity.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 14: Like I'm surprised nobody is like a damn crypt CRYPTI
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 14: like a Crtonian on one of these planets.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Like man, I need somewhere to can I sleep? Please
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: give the time. And so, as many know, there was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: some controversy that happened in the Blair community and a
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: certain individual who shall be named right now because we're
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: not we're not gonna I could hear Lady mandelor now,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: but I'm we're gonna play this right because we're not.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: We're not into tearing other blurd creators down. However, some
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: things were said that struck me as, Oh you're ignorant,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: and you're ignorant. Okay, you're ugly and stupid. Is that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: is how it goes? And ugly something one of those.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: So he basically said that Milestone Comics is the Foobo
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: of comics. Now it's the way he said it. Case
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: of point delivery means everything media literacy is true, a
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: really thing, a real thing. If I said spartan, I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: got a tomahawk steak medium, medium, rare, grilled onions, grilled mushrooms,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: homemade fried potatoes. What's the first thing you say? That's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: a cook? Which how you want to cook? There's only
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: one resultly one answer. So it's medium. There you go,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: all right, So we go a medium. Now you're you
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: ready to go? Right you? I'm like, all right, where's
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: it at? Like like like Cliff Huxtable said, I serve
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: it to you on a trash Candi lid, whole appetite gone.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Now yeah, And that's how he said the food bool
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: of comics. Yes, it's Milestone Comics, the food bool of comics.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: It is because it's for us, by us, but it's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: literally for everyone. This individual stated like he he doesn't read.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: He could have stopped it and said, I haven't I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: haven't read Milestone Comics. I'm not familiar with the catalog.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what it's you know all about, so
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: I can't identify with anything. M h That would have
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: been fine, but he followed it up with I don't
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: get into black politics. At which point he was being judged.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: He should as he should be, as he should be.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: He was being judged. At that point, there was nothing
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: else to discuss at all, and Uncle Pierry has some
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: things to say, yeah, exactly, so we're going to dive
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit into it. I was able to do
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: some of mine out.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: It's just part of the collection. I had some Static,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: I got some Icon and Rocket here. That's just part
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: of the collection. Milestone Comics was created by these four
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: gentlemen here, Dwayne McDuffie, Dennis Cowen, Michael Davis, and Derek T.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Dingle in the early nineties. I want to say ninety
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: five ninety six. I might be I might be wrong,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: might be wrong on the year, but these four gentlemen
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: gave us stories by individuals like the Blood Syndicate mm hm, Static,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Icon and Rocket mm hmm. Here's another visual of that
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: whole team, and they met and met something because they
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: dealt with real world applications. It dealt with heroes who don't.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Icon alone is a level, is a story in itself,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: this Man or Alien. Yeah, ninety three, thank you, thank you,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: ninety three. I wasn't sure if I was too far,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: too far ahead, but it was ninety three. And yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: the four Wise Men exactly, the four Wise Men in
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Shadow Cabinet is another one. Yep. Icon in himself his
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: power set rivals Superman. If anybody could stand toe to toe,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: He's not an enemy of Superman at all. If anybody
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: could stand toe to toe with Superman, it was Icon,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: go ahead, go ahead, Now we'll go. Just to make
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: a joke, I said, if Amanda Wall could convince Icon
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: to go up against Superman, she would have her kryptonite. Yeah,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: that's pretty much if she. If she could convince Icon
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: that Superman is a threat, Superman would actually have competition.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: So here here are some things the history of Milestone comings.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna pull this up just for just for
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: some shits and giggles. I'm gonna pull that up right quick.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Move over here so I can actually see it. So
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: the African prince gave up a strong so by the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: light in late nineteen eighties, three black creators Thenis Cowen,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Dwayne McDuffie, and Michael Davis has seen enough of these
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: stereotypes that all three built successful careers in the predominantly
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: white comic book industry, but found their opportunities limited by
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: a business that didn't value diversity. This is true, appointed
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: now legendary memo that McDuffie wrote to his bosses around
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: this time, you satirically that on a recent preponderance of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: black superheroes who offer some reason road skateboards. McDuffie's friend
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Dennis Cowen, already an artist of the note at the time,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: understood exactly where he was coming from. He said, being
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: a black artist and surviving in this industry, you weren't
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: going to get the same breaks, the same kind of money,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: and you had to work twice as hard. Yep, this
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: is all true, and it made it. It made it.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: How do I say it? They needed to make this.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: They had to found Milestone Comics to tell our stories
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: from a perspective that no one else could.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: We didn't want to play second fiddle. We didn't want
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: to be somebody sidekick outside of Rocket, who, by the way,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: Icon is an alien who crash landed on Earth in
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: the seventeen hundred. Now it's in the Dakota Universe. They're prone.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: The rumor is they're getting folded into the DC universe finally. Yeah,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: but he crash landed here on Earth during this late
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: seventeen hundred early eighteen hundred, So during slavery. This story
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: was told to Rocket, at which point her response was,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: you have all these abilities, you couldn't stop slavery. And
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: he had a very valid response. He said, can you
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: imagine someone of the power set and I look like
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: them now because I took on the form of looking
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: like a black person. Imagine if I took my power
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: set and started wiping the floor, how much more damage
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: that would create from the opposition. I got what he
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: was saying. I forgot somebody counted that point. I forgot
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: which character, dang it, look for it. But it was
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: like you that same explanation somebody and somebody that good
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: counter but go out, sorry ahead, But yeah it was.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: But I got what he was saying. But it gave
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: me the whole Jason Todd speech to Bruce Wayne. I
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: didn't say kill all of the villains, just him, you
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: could do the damage. Just what's going on? All nerds
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: in the building, he said, saying he doesn't follow Milestone
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: but follows two other ones nerd Rotic and Critical Drinker,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: which are known racist, homophobic, misogynic comic book readers. I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: guess you can call him was when he knew he
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: was full of it. It didn't even bother with the
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: scripted explanation. You're right, You're absolutely right. It didn't. It
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: didn't make sense. Okay, even Bama says it allies himself
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: with neurotic and critical Drinker and says what he has
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: to say was in valid exactly because I've heard, actually
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: seen it. He's actually said, I don't agree with their politics.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with anything they say or do. But
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: the problem, then, why are you following them? What the
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: problem was? Like, we said all you had to say,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: and we're not saying his name, but it's obvious at
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: this point if you're in the circles, you know who
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: we're talking about. But all he had to say was
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: not my preference and just stopped. I want to sit
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: there and say, was I'm not familiar with the catalogs,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: and you know what, that could have been a wonderful
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: And we talk about this all the time and I
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: we all say it in all our platforms. We don't
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: get Keith. We encourage if you don't know, use it
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: as an opportunity to say, well, guys, I don't know
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: much about this, what issues should I be reading? Where
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: do I start? And last time I checked, when someone
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: asked for suggestions, they got all the suggestions they can
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: handle and say here, read this, read this, go here,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: read this, do this and instead of him and this
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: is what and this is honestly what ticked me off
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: outside of the fact he was he was really grifting
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: for He was really grifting for the smoke this point, Yeah,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: at this point exactly. Yeah, you're you're grifting for the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: smoke of the engagement. But what you could have done,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: because a lot of people, I know a lot of
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: our people don't know about Milestone media. And that's okay.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: I could go down a whole six hour dissertation of
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: certain things that were not available in certain areas across
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: the US. That's a whole other argument. That's whole on
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: discussion itself. But the but the the opportunity to learn
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: about Milestone and to learn about these characters, and to
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: learn about the story, and to learn about the history.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: All that is there, and the fact that we are
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: in a society now where technology is is day near
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Star Trek is We're just all we're missing is transport
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: as track words at this point. But you could have
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: sat there and said, you know what, let me let
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: me learn, let me let me actually open my mind
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: up to this. Because the thing I hated and I'm
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna shut up because I'll be I'll be going
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: long winded. The thing I hated was you. You you
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: sat there and called it the fuboo of comics, but
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: then said you can relate more to black to Blue Marvel,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: which no disrespect to Adam Brosher, He's had a lot
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: of great stories in Marvel, but look look how they're
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: playing him and right. But the thing I hated was
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: you were saying you don't know Milestone by the fact
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: that you don't want to be labeled in black politics,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: but use Blue Marvel as your counterpoint. Tells me that
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: you will never read a Milestone media comic. Another Milestone
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: media you will never read. You won't even read Blood Cedicken.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: I don't even say you can go Hardware just as
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: a nice entry point, but you won't. You will sit
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: there and it's like, right now you are enjoying what
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: comes with the fact that when you say something contrarian
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: or controversial, you just like the fact that you get attention. Now,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: so that just tells us everything we want to know
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: about you. And at that sense, so saying all of that,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: I say to not just not this individual, because there's
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: certain people. We get it. When it comes to certain people,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: you can't convince them. You can't convince everybody to like
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: chess Pond's what I've been told you can't. But for
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: those who do not know about Milestone, well let me
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: break some down. So they had several monthly series. Hardware
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: had fifty issues, a trade paperback and The Man in
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: the Machine that was published in twenty ten. You Have
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Blood Blood Syndicate had thirty five issues. Icon had forty two.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: The first eight issues were collected as a trade paperback.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: Static had forty five issues. First four issues are collected
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: as a graphic novel Trial by Fire. You Have Shadow Cabinet,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: which had eighteen issues. Zombie had twenty two issues. Cobalt
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: had sixteen and Heroes had six. Now they had some
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: mini series which was Death Wish which was four issues,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: and that was a hardware spinoff. My Name was Holocaust,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: which was five issues, and that's a Blood Syndicate spinelt
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: spin off, Static Shock, which was Rebirth of the Cool
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: that was four issues. Why Son the White Wolf which
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: was four issues, and that was also a Blood Syndicate spinoff.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: You have Shadow War, which was every body right in
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: the Milestone Comics Milestone Media crossover and the involved all
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: the comics and even Zombie and Shadow Cabinet. Long Hot
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Summer was any crisis, Yeah, yeah, that should have been
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: in crisis before had been a Christis I'm sorry, right right,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Long Hot Summer, which was also another major crossover. They
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: had three issues of the comics by the same title,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: plus tie ins Worlds Collide, which was a one issue
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: crossover with Blood shim to get hardware Icon Static DC's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: steal Superman the Superman. The Man is still with Superboy.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: That's just part of them. These characters literally did a
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: lot for the culture during the nineties. They had to
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: restart in twenty fifteen, I think it was twenty fifteen.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: They had a restart in twenty fifteen. As we If
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: you watched the show last week or listened to the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: show last week, you know Stephanie Williams was on. She
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: has a part in the Dakota Incident, which is coming
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: out on the twenty fifth of this month. So they
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: I believe Static shows up at the I think it's
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: the last issue of d c KO. I want to
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: say that is so they're here and for the pact.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: For the record, it's not Static Shock. That was just
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: the cartoon, same character. His name is Static. Yeah, I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: give I give grace because CW really to do a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: good job of differentiating it. Because I don't blame c
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: W because a lot of people, a lot of people
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: got induced to static via sack Shock VAWB kids. So
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not knocking folks to go stack shock. I say, Okay,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: you probably got introduced to the car through the cartoon.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: Let me let me tell you it's your static. But
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: they said it's just static. I know the TV show
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: is Static Shock. It's just Static. Yeah, it's it's that.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: That's just the title of the show. They don't need
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: call him static Shock in the show. It's just it's
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: just it's just static.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 16: Uh.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Fun fact, Icon is a conservative Republican mm hmm, but
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: not the type we're dealing with right now. One with
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: common sense. Yeah, one with common sense, one that's willing
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: to talk things out and work things out, which is
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: which having Rocket as his partner made a very good
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: uhh backup. It was almost a buddy cop thing. It's like,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: even though he's an alien and he's been here for decades, yep. Uh,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: having Rocket have him be more grounded made all the
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: difference because she would make him question things. You know,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: that's all saying. I'm gonna say. Also, that's person with
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: a counterpoint. She sat there and said, so you wouldn't help,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't help, you know, turn the tide of her
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: people back then. But if you robbing your house is
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: okay exactly now you see. Now you see my funt
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: so having having Rocket as that as that second half
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: to say, hey, it's okay to do this, you know,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: that makes it He's he's conservative leaning liberal to a
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: degree because my mind, you remember, he's still an alien
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: but almost almost really almost well middle of the road,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, more middle of the road, more middle
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: of the road. He's I'm trying to think of a
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: I can't think of a black Republican right now who's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: middle of the road. But if you good luck, I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: was gonna say, you probably won't, But I got a
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: you got a better chance of polity teaching African American
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: history than find a black Republican. That's true. That's true.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: He he acted more like a John McCain. I guess
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: it's the best way to say it. Yeah, he reached
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: across the party lines. He was he wasn't. He had
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: difference opinions, but he wasn't a dick, is basically what
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: it is. That's that's fair that he had a difference
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: of opinion on things. He just wasn't an ecstatic. Was
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: your typical teenage superhero that got his powers. A lot
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: of these characters, with the exception of Hardware Icon Rocket
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm blanking on another one, most of these characters
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: and most of the characters and statics comic got their
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: powers from the Big Bang yeahies all bang babies.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: That means their power set. That means there was a
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: peaceful protest, stay with the people. It was a peaceful protest.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: And this this this leg of the government wanted to
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: test out something mm hmm, and they threw out some
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: gas that was supposed to be tear gas quote air
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: quotations for the people that are listening at home. Uh,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: hence their powers getting their powers through this miss aerious gas.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: This is yeah, he didn't. I kind did not support
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: Rocky Beaning and single mother, but then again, no one,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: no one should.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: But it is.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 8: So dirty and last.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: Man, he was not happy with it. But I like
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: how they did her that way opposed to like, yo, like, no,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: she tried, she tried, but yeah, that's how they got
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: their powers. Hardware was basically a tech genius who got
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: played by his boss and decided to take his creation.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: He took it back. It was his, but you know,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: you know how to Adam Napkins do. I was always
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: look at him like what I always said, Hardware is
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: just mister terrific. But you know, on a really bad day,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: Oh it was such a bad day, he was like,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm I'm a sneak in here. That's
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: my my my I d badge still works. I'm gonna
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: go in here and get my stuff back. M hm.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: But that you know, it was, it was such a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: thing to have these characters and even though they were
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: short lived, they still had at they still had staying
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: power in and especially in the in the blurred community
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: because because people still talk about these characters.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 9: M hm icon was on.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: Was it Justice League the not Unlimited but uh like
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: phantoms and the latest one when you had the teen Titans.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, he was in. He was in Young Justice.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 14: He was like, he was like Rockets mentor the entire
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 14: so when they were putting.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: Several episodes, actually he had several episodes in that series.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 14: Yeah, So when they were putting the team together, she
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 14: was like the one that he was ali open over
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 14: to join, like artements and the rest of the game
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 14: when they were kind of still putting it together.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Virgil, who was static. He had an appearance in
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: the show, not as static, but he was there. He
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: was there.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Virgil is the only one with a healthy family. Man.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: That's the other thing. Virgil has a healthy family, has
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: a loving father. Depending I think in the show his
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: mother has passed away. In the comic, especially in the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: new version, both his parents are life and a stable marriage.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: Stable marriage, has a typical brother sister relationship. Completely fine,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: completely didn't have to give him family trauma or nothing.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 9: Just let it.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: It's like, we know what we'll look. You don't have
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: to give him this fire man treatment. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: And thankfully they didn't. Right, he dealt with typical problems
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: that you know black teeners, teenagers deal with. I think
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: their most controversial storyline was when he was in the
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: bed with his girlfriend completely clothed but off into the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: upper right hand corner. I think it was. Oh, and
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: then the school and then the school shooting. That was
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: in the school shooting upper right hand corner. It was
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: like a condom wrapper and it was like, you can't
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: show that. I'm like, safe sex practices, right, would you rather?
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Would you rather show the other things?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: But but that was But that's also the reason. I'm
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: sorry what you're saying. I said, between consenting adults, between.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 9: Them.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: But no, that's it's just like I said, said the
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: stories that they written they had to tell because it's
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: the same thing we told when we had Stephanie, when
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: we had Stephaniel. The stories, the stories that can be
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: told if the if the oportunities are given, are way
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: different than what you have out there right now. And
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: people resonate with that, It's like, it's not that freaking
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: hard to understand that. Yes, yet, yes, black writers, black
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: people can tell black stories that other black folks will enjoy.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: It's a strange concept for Napkins. I understand that, do it,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: and we do that. Look, hey Bama said it. He
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: said yeah, And yet it was okay for Robbing and
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: Barbara to be together my point exactly.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 14: Robin apparently was with everybody in Young Justice, and we
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 14: just dropped that nice little nugget at the end of
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 14: the fourth season.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, I've go with the killing joke with
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: Batman and Barbara like that. That was dang there, creepy,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: the killing.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 16: Joke, Jason Todd dying. These were y'all's decisions. Y'all called
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 16: that stuff.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jason died. That was the fans voting, and.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: There was that was the fans voting that went in.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: That was it was like, oh, y'all want joke? What
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: joker did the Barbara I'm like, and y'all got on
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: us for this. Yeah, there was worse stuff that was.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Nick was out here, Grayson, the whole team.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: Like, they didn't call him, they didn't call him. Put
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: on the table Grayson for nothing, like all.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 14: Your exes in one room and they just casually mentioned that.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 14: So we had Barbara, we had Satanna, we had Rocket,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 14: which I'm shamed to you. I feel like I'm missing.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: One star.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 14: Starfire is not in Young Justice, but it's fine me
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 14: Young Justice and she's like, you all dated them, you
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 14: wouldn't know where he's at.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: I think was missing.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 14: There's like telling me, like, I know Satanna happened, but
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 14: then Rocket, I guess moved on to jumped in there
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 14: at some point, and he.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: Learned, he learned from the best, he learned from from
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: his adopted.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 14: Settled down with Barbara, and then at some point Homegirl
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 14: who had like a one episode cameo snuck in there too.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: So so and Stephanie Williams La.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: Artemis that tour around school her too.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And Stephanie Williams and Lady Mandelor say they call
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: him Cakes Grayson, So yeah.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Clearly it works. Has he been knocked off half.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: The team and ain't none of them mad at him?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: So he's doing something right.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 14: That's canonically accurate, Like there is there's a comic issue
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 14: where they all show for his birthday.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: He's like, how did you even pull this off? Like
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: they're all your excues, Like, I don't know either.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: It just works in the world of Black Dynamit only
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: two places that would make sense, Ohn. So the world
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: of Milestone Comics is a very important fixture in the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: black community, blurred community especially so as you heard me
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: mentioned off all the issues and how many issues they ran,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: it's very short runs. Yeah, they're very short runs considering
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: you know, by many standards, you know, and they're just
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: now like I said, they restart was in twenty fifteen,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: which that was also a short run. But there's always
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: some level of them being around, like they're coming back around.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: And yes, DC did buy the rights from the original owners.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: That was, you know, not knowing what they were doing.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: They kind of dropped the ball a little bit. But
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: that's how they get it. That's how they happened, you know,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: and kind of snatched the rug out from under them,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: and that's how we lost it. But and they kind
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: of buried, they called themselves burying these characters. The problem
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: is these characters are very much well loved, yep, And
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: so it was it's it's they. I don't think DC's
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: gonna I think they realized, well, it's under new leadership.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: Number one, it's under new leadership. So I don't I
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: think they seen like the mistakes of the past. It
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: were like, No, these are like really cool characters, Like
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: they've shown up in animations and you see how well
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: they are doing. We do need to utilize these characters
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: in some fashion and form and involve the people in
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: rest in Peace. Dwayne mc duffy, who not only worked
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: help fun or start Milestone Comics, but wrote a lot
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: of The Justice League and Justice Lee an limited series,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: The ben tend this man and to think he was
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: a scientist prior to working in comics, Nuclear physicists, olive
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: World wild. While all of it would make sense, another
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: said screw this, I'm gonna write some comics like but
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: this is why, this is why I give Gun credit.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: I give Gun credit when he said down and said
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: I would love to bring Milestone to the main dcum.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: At the same time, he also sat there and said,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: I just I have we we have to we gotta
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: get through paperwork, because that's what it is. I mean,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: static is held up, Milestone is held up all ips
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: and everything else. This is why sometimes you love hate lawyers,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: because until they all clear it out. We will never
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: And I hate to say this, and I really don't
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: want to say this, but unfortunately it's almost.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: Like the.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: It's like the Superman issue all over again. Because Superman
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: for the longest time, couldn't give movies, couldn't get animation,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: couldn't get televison shows. Why the family still owned the rights,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: because that's the way it was. The creator of Superman,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: his family owns the rights. If they give no say
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: on it, it didn't happen. That's why every time you
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: see DC always sit there and says with approval from
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: the family of so and so, yeah, Bob King, Bill Finger,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. So that's why it was like, it's the thing,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: it's the thing that makes the money is the Bats
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: and Superman. Of course, I'm not saying not do those projects.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, hey, you know, like like the ancestor says,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: until you do right by me. And that's the one
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: thing I kept telling folks about Milestone, d C.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 8: D C will.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: Eventually because they're going to do and I'm gonna say this,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: you can mark it down. I'm gonna stand by it.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: DC is going to do with what the MCU will
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: not do. They are going to put forth Milestone and
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: its characters, and it's gonna have its own spotlight, and
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: it's gonna have a run with it before Marvel takes
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: its black characters. Not to say, no thing with Black Panther,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: because that's Ryan Coopler. He's still on his center. He's
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: still on his centers run and then rightfully, so let
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: that man come back when he's getting ready to do
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: Black Panther. But I mean, which is actually the next
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: project is the next project?
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: So outside of that, I mean Blade is in limbo.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can go down the whole route. But
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: if you think about it, the majority of black superheros
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: that we know outside of Marvel remains in DC. I mean,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: just like Stephan Williams said she would love to do Vixen.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: Vixen is one of those where Vixen is one of
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: those characters in DC that could be a story that
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: could be a run in itself, next to Wonder Woman,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: because she intersects and so many other characters and her
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: story is good in itself. So this is why I
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: keep saying d C is eventually going to is going
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: to run with it. But the problem you got to
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: sort out the lawyer's force, the lawyers and the and
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: the and the i P owners once that's settled first, Yeah,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: thank you. Uh yeah, because DC doesn't own it, right.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: But that's the point I'm getting at. Until all parties
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: are happy, we're not gonna get that. Yeah.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 14: I was kind of looking at Vixen and Green Lantern
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 14: kind of like a black panther storm that was like
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 14: my DC love couple.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they keep playing around with tou tou,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, just make the ship happen. Is that leaks?
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, you're right, but that until yeah, until
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: until they actually need until they actually, like you said,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: all parties agree. And I get why Dennis Cowen is
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: doing what he's just like, I've been burned. I've been burned.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing I wish they would do like DC.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: I know, y'all guys, if you ever do listen to us,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: just give him the same deal that Hollywood gave Coopler.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: Give him this same I mean that he knows what
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: he's doing and you gave it. It took it took
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: y'all to it took y'all to do. Absolute Batman, absolute
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Superman absolutely the basically the absolute. Just it took y'all
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: to do absolute to see any real traction in the
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: past what two years, pretty much, and they were all
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: different stories. And guess what, people loved them. People loved
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: every absolute character storyline. You know, it accumulated in DCKO.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna spoil for everybody. But but that's
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: the thing. Give him the same. The cooler got a
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: deal that people certain napkins hate. But you won't hate
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: on the boy, or you won't hit on the one
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: napkin that made Avatar and took thirty years and got
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: paid those thirty years. You ain't mad at him, but
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: you mad at Coogler for one movie. I just find
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: it interesting. I mean, if you look at if you
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: look how comic sales are working, Batman Beyond and Static
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: Beyond is doing great. The Milestone Rebirth did fantastic. Yep,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: you had you had Nicholas Ivy Draper on Static m h.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: And it did great. To bring it back. You know,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: go to those writers and make it work. It's not
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: even so much way could work, be right, because all
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: because when it comes down to it all, he when
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: he comes down to it all you have to base
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: all he wants to spread up control. He wants control
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: if he wants to retain the rights to his fine.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, even Sony been the need of Disney. After
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: a while, I said, look, we try to make it
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: on it, We try to make it on our own.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: Didn't work out that well, how about we just you know,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: we figure out the numbers. You guys can use our characters.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: Everybody walks away home, everybody walks away happy, DC and
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: Counts do the same thing. Look, Tom McFarlane created Spawn,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: and he created that contortionist style that we're used to
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: seeing almost now with Spider Man. He had to leave
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: to go to Image to create Spawn, and and and Spartan.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: You remember when they created a Spawn they were just
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: like man, he looks like Spider Man a little bit. Yep,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: his mask style and everything. But it advanced over the years.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: But look how that book is still going. Like I
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: dropped off at like issue one fifty, it's like in
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: three hundreds now and he's still working on it. But
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: it's once again. That's that's the thing is like he said,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: this is my baby. I'm going to run with it.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: And I feel Dennis Cowen and and Michael Davis and
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: whomever they need to I get them wanting to retain
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: that control. I agree, you need to retain that control because,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: like you said, you've been burned already. If you wanted,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: if you really want them in their own world, fine,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: but if DC is ready to play ball and develop
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: them into the DC universe, because I don't think it's
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: a deal that's been made before, not like this, And
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: that's the thing you gave. You gave writers like I'll use,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: I'll use, I use because has Beensky is like the
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: last I mean, great riting style. But have you ever
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: noticed that when a comic line is doing not so
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: good or horribly bad, they whip him out of what
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: every line he's in to save that particular line. Because
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: they did it with Daredevil, they Punisher, and I want
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: to say they did it with spire Man, not inspire Man,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: before the Beyond Corporation or actually I think the Beyond
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: Corporation was his. But yeah, but you notice that with
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: all of these, they're all they they they'll give a
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: they'll give one person with a successful run, they will
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: give him carte blanche. Okay, fine, you're telling me that
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: you'll give a writer three different top lines of characters
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: in a certain in a certain continuity. But a person
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: that's familiar with these characters, that's written for these characters
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: and obviously has the rights these characters, you won't do
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: the same. And it only comes down to one thing. Money, Yeah,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: comes down to It comes down to d C. If
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: DC won't cut the check. If DC cut the check tomorrow,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: I cannot see any reason why Calvin beyond one be
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: on board. If they sat there and said, you know what,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: we are going to give you what you asked for.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: You are going to You're going to keep the rights,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: will split how the profits and things that nature go.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: You still retain ownership. We just want to see it published.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: You run the ship. Done deal. That's all That's all
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: it would take. If you sit there and told him
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: you run with it, we split profits, you run the
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: ship and that and that's but again I know d C.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: D C is tied in with that group that shall
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: not be named, with that person who should not be named,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: and that's all in flux right now. But that's all
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: it would really take, because that's all that's I mean,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: that's what comes down to it. Cooper said it best.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: It just he when he wrote Centers, he was like,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: it's mine. I don't it's like it is it is
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: my it is my baby. It's what I've developed. Gets
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: the red crossing units for comic red right, and Malik
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: is right. They go to him when a comic line
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: is feeling horribly. Yeah, it ain't that. It ain't that.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: This man everywhere. It's just like you said, like, how
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: can you mess this up? Puts the darsky on it?
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: But he's doing puts a darksky on it. We got
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: to pull it out the mud right now. And remember
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: the remember the spider Man that didn't like a spider Man,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: that comic book artist. I'm not gonna say his names.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: I don't want to mess him up, but bro, you
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: couldn't drop that horrible I'm like, what is it's distracting?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: It was like it's like it's it's like if aliens,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: if like Alien Treader had a baby, it was a
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: red and blue. Yeah, my eyes was just distracting it.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think what needs to end? Like you said, Spartan,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the Milestone characters, it's not so
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: it's not even a begging thing. It's like look Man,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: just do right bye by the creator. The creators are
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: still around except for McDuffie. You know, the creators are
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: still around, Like, yo, you can you have an opportunity
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: to make something major. The response when Static showed up,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: the response and and and his original look well comic comic,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: comic little, the older look, the overcoadon all the response
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: and even saying I hadn't worn this in a while.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 8: That was.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: Now imagine now imagine Superman seeing a person in red, red,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: black and green show up and says you look familiar.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: I should, and you just see Icon's face again. Even
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: even even what was the episode of Justice League Limited
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: when we got uh, that's when we find out about
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: Terry McGinnis's past.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it was called epilogue. I think I think yeah, last,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 14: if not second to last episode.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: Because I think adult statics showed up in that series twice.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 14: Yeah, we went to the future ones and then it
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 14: was like they cycled people green lanterns and like the
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 14: span of thirty seconds.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they said they went through Hall and it was
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: just like, oh, that's where he's been. It went back
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: to John. It's like with Damn, but it says a
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: lot it does. It says a lot that you know,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: these characters are very much well loved. I can't even
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: say missed at this point, because they've been showing up sporadically. Yeah,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: you know, every time they pop up, people snatch it
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: up and and you would think that would be a
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: line to say, maybe we should, maybe we should get
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: even do one? Why Okay, if you want to be
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: that conservative, do one.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 8: I believe you pick.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: One character, pick one character that you believe in a
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: short shot and give him a give him an an
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: eight to twelve is your run? Mm hmm. You can
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: do one arc in twelve eighths. Well, you do one
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: arc and twelve issues and proven right, proven wrong. So
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: I say this to anyone out there who has never
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: read anything from Milestone. Go to your local comic shop.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: Look up Static, look up icon and Rocket Hardware, blood Syndicate.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: You can even look up the Rebirth series, which was
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, and they had Icon of Hardware, they had Static,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: and I think they did they do a blood I
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: think they did do a blood syndicate Rebirth and short
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: short runs, short runs Nicholas Ivy Draper's run on Static.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: Uh that that was a good run.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: It was the same story, just updated to modern standards.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: Same thing. Peaceful, peaceful protest on the whole thing, the
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: whole thing. So you can still get these thingle to
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: your local shop, check the backlogs they got them, or yeah,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: or if you really want to say the time, go
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: to a library, go to a library. Go to your library.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: I'm like a lie. I told you all the time.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: If you if you've got time, go to a library.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: A library will have and a lot of people. Again,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: strangely enough to a lot of people don't know this.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: A library does carry every copy of every comic book
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: ever made. Every library, lead, every library, by constant, constitution,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: by department event the way things is going to need
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: that too. But I'm just saying, because I had to
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: tell a bunch of kids, like you can go get
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: comic side library. Yes, you can get comics, You can
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: get mangas, you can get anime and some depart in
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: some some libraries actually carry video games. Some actually, I
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: mean again, that building is not just there for thateneration. No,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: so never say. And this is the thing that burns
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: me up, not just about the milestone comic run, but
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: mainstream as well. Don't stop saying I don't like politics
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: in my comics. Politics have always been in comics from
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: their inception. You literally have a character knocking out Hitler twice.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: The Dakode of the accident is supposed to basically be.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: The La Riots somewhat. It was loosely. They never confirmed it,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: but it's loosely based off of it. Okay, I think
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: that yeah, because of the timing.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it's like five years before the show starts and
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 14: his mom died of a straight bullet.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, what was this actually supposed to be?
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so go check those books out, Go show your support,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: you know, because it's out there. I hate with people
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: will say I hate my politics and comics. I don't
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: follow Milestone because I don't get into black politics. That's bullshit.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: That's such a cop out that I was just like
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: the minute he said that, I was like, that's such
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: a bullshit. And this is why this is why I
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: sit there and say this. You know, when you again
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: to piggyback off what you said that I don't I
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: don't get involved in black politics, sir. You are black.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: We are always going to be in politics, whether whether
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: or not, whether or not you want to join the
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: Whether or not you want to join the dance, your
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: ticket's been bunched long ago. I've never heard that we
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: leave this part. To put it that way, it was
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: told to me. You look, you can be involved. And
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: and again not just comics, but I mean we've seen
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: television like me being a trucky, Me me a trucky.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, trecky drinking. It's not supposed to be politics.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: It's politics. Star Wars, yeah, everything.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 7: A lot of the books that I read, You've got
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 7: your dystopian worlds, the good versus evil.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: There's always.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 16: Lord of the Rings, politics, politics, geopolitical politics.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, all nothing but politics. Politics is politics
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: and swords. They held the experienced by trial by combat.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 16: Politics for dragons, politics for dragons, politics for mutants.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: It's everywhere. It's just how you frame it. It's like
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: current comics and the nerd medium has always been a
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: mirror image of what we deal with in reality. And
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: that's a level of politics you just don't want to
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: see it. It's fifteen minutes of thirty two pages, maybe eighteen,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: of dealing with of escapism. But it's also solving issues
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: that can easily be solved if you paid attention. That's
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: that's why I love what i Q said about what
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: about rap rap rap? We are nothing but street journalists
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: telling you what you already know, but refuse, but refuse
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: to listen to. Right, I loved I said every since
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: he said, I'm like that. That's that's pretty much. That's
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: pretty much everything that we put out that if you're
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: it's a it is a it is a observation of
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: our view of the world. That's all we say about
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: X men. You can sit there and say, you know
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: X men obviously Magneto Marinfly politics, yep, Serenity politics, X
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: men politics, one more blade politics. You go said, tell
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: me vampires. You know, old pale control everything. One person
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: who can walk, who basically has all the abilities that
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: they want, is dark and they trying to hunt this
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 3: man down. Politics, and we even talking about the old
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: age vampire versus the new age vampire. That's politics in itself.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: They were just like, oh, we need to take this
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: old crew out. Sound familiar.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: You know my.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 14: Adventures are Superman. The whole government war against him based politics.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: Politics.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 14: When they finally kidnap him and trying to question about
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 14: the invasion. He's like, I was literally an Infit like,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 14: I don't know what happened. Y'all just blaming this shit
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 14: on me for twenty.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 3: Years, right, That's why I look at Milestone Comics. I'm like,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: if you just said I'm not familiar with the catalog,
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: so I've never been been able to read it or
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: even been interested in it, you would have been This
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: firestorm you created would have never happened. You asked for smoke.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: Don't be mad now that don't be mad. Now to
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 3: the oven zone. Now that the ovens one and that
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: fire lit under the ass you've been running back and forth,
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: shout out to blur without fear. Blur without fear was
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: like the first one. He was like, you know what,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 3: because we get on this soap box for a minute,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: because it's so stupid. You if you want a griff,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: just say you want a grift, Just just say you
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: did this, because Andy thing about it is if you
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: had multi opportunities the first time you did it a
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: secret this you did a responsible You should have out
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: there and said, you know what, let me stop this
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: because this traction is going in the negative direction, and
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: it needs to go to a positive direction. So how
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: about how about you take this journey with me and
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: we go into Mousette. You could have sat that. You
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: could have sat there and stopped the train. The fact
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: that you even followed the outher was like I read,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 3: I read, I read about Blue Marvel.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 4: That's icon, dude.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just one an alien then the other one isn't.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: But you sit there, and I mean not just double down,
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: triple down now because now you have you have now
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: more known people coming out and saying dude, and then
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: not even attacking you per se. They're just like explaining
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: you might want to look at this so you will
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  Speaker 3: be informed. Instead you decide to go, well, that's that's
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: not what I meant, sir, the airnets forever. It's too late, dude.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 14: I'm not catching a bed and beating us. The other
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 14: dude on the internet getting flamed right now, that is true.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: And meanwhile we're just watching the whole thing unfold. Like
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: I said, I'm like, if you had just said this,
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: you would be fine. But like I said, let the
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: last things continue. You can't save everybody.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody on Rainy Street is sighting with John Redcorn.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: You've got a problem, man. Oh like a friend group.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: Knew and chose the other guy my man. Like, it
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: might be time for some reflection, right, it.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: Might be time to pull up. It might be time
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: to put the white flag and say, you know what
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 14: He almost did on life and then thankfully someone stopped him.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 14: But like, I get it, but also, what have you
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 14: done to push everyone around you to this point?
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  Speaker 3: Right? So, uh, before we get out of here, like
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: I said before, go check out Milestone Comics. Get they
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: have a back catalog, very short run, so it shouldn't
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: be hard for you to find and ready to read
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: up on. Go to your local comic book store, local library,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: look it up, trade paperbacks. Uh, they they are, They
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: are popular. But don't don't don't don't get greedy, like
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: are they gonna be worth money? No, read those books. Please,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: don't pull Please don't pull a Logan or Jake Paul.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: And yeah, read those books you decide to buy it,
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: really read those read those books. Be be a real
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: fan and really check those out and and and be
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: fun so uh and don't be ignorant about it, and
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: and and if you think I'm calling you out, look
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 3: up the term ignorant That means without knowledge that and
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: it's and it's okay to say you don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah it is.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I never understood that it is. And people killed them.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, I don't know. Well, you're not a
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: computer and you're human. You're not going to know everything.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: You're not going to know every comic. You're not going
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: to know every anime. The thing it is, are you
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: opening up your ears and closing your mouth or you
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: letting your ego do it for you?
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 10: There you go, And on that note, wrapper protocol initiated captain.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 17: All right, Lady of the Evening, got it? Give you
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 17: a little there, Okay.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: All right? Our nailsmith, our nails tactician. That's better. That's
• 2:02:43
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• 2:03:48
  Speaker 14: Latest skit is if they had anime characters in the
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  Speaker 14: world of the game Dispatch, which I actually did a
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  Speaker 2: Thank you to the team and Yema Coop who has
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: sent me a free copy of Relooted, which hopefully the
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: hype from the wrong God. Yeah, it's the game is fun.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 14: I just I can't find anybody else playing it because
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 14: a certain crowd has flooded the meta completely and they
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 14: are just they're on the warpath right now, So hoping
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 14: something gets takes care of that soon, because it's it's
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 14: getting to be a bit of a hassle.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: And then shout out to Aeriel night his game dropshot.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 14: Actually came out today, which I believe you can get
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  Speaker 14: on all platforms including Steam.
• 2:04:37
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  Speaker 2: that's looking right right.
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  Speaker 3: Black Spartan, Yes it is. I a Black Underscore Spartan
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  Speaker 3: here because we got to cover everything that the diaper
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  Speaker 3: Man Child is doing every Wednesday at seven thirty ish.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: Also at the same time myself to Far and Joe
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  Speaker 3: do cover the week of video games and the other
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 3: things that get bit this Friday eight thirty ish. Still
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: doing my streaming thing. I apologize the audio issues. We're
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  Speaker 3: trying to work that out of the game audio and
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: my thing. Still doing Resuval four because we are not
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: that far off from Resuval nine that's going to be
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  Speaker 3: out in twenty seven, so we're trying to wrap up
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  Speaker 3: four first be when we get to nine. That's going
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: on Twitch right now and also on YouTube as well. Guys,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 3: even though it is Black History Month and we did
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: get short change hating the short month out of the year,
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 3: we are still Black three sixty five. I highly encourage everybody,
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: and I say this every year. Try to find and
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: try to find a black historian or a history lesson,
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: or just something that you don't know, because there are
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 3: so many stories of us out there that don't get
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: told that you know, you're not gonna find a history books.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 3: At the same time, we don't get that many elders
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: around us there and tell us these stories. So, like
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 3: I said, go out there, try to find something that
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: you may or may not know, or tell somebody that
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 3: may or may not know. Especially again with Milestone moles
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: Own is a perfect example. Let people know about those
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: characters that they may not know and go from there.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: Outside of that guy's the rules still do apply. Respect
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: the cosplayer at all times. Cosplay is not consent. Please
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: should be like human beings. Hygie is important. I just
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 3: got over a cold. I'm not trying to get sick again.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: If I found the person that got me sick because
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: they did not learn how to clean themselves up, I'm
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: throwing hands outside that. Yeah, I hate they mess with me,
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 3: but again, clean clothes, hygiene, brush, teeth not that hard.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 3: And last one that I half for myself that I
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 3: have for everybody else. Be nice, be kind, talk, share,
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 3: discuss your fandoms. Don't be ignorant, don't be a dick,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 3: and you won't get jumped. Whish. We've been seeing a
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: lot of lately, but I love it. It's on the
• 2:06:52
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• 2:08:33
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• 2:08:36
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• 2:09:02
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• 2:09:13
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• 2:09:35
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• 2:09:38
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• 2:09:44
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• 2:09:46
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• 2:09:50
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• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: birds at one stone. Stay tuned. Thursday, I think we're
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: going to continue the milestone discussion and we definitely are
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: going to continue wonder Man six to eight mm hm.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 3: So we got that and then we will be joining
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 3: that uh that dropshot trailer Thursday that Tofari was talking about,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 3: will show that trailer as well, uh, black game developers,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 3: we try to cover off the bases. We show we
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: show love because why we love Black History Month. We
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 3: love being black three sixty five, and that's what we
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: do here. We cover everybody that's black three sixty five.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: We do not hold back. Rest in peace, Jesse Jackson,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 3: trail blazer. Yeah, it was a tree. He's a trail blazer.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: I do remember some things from from this man, and like,
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 3: no matter how you felt about him, he was a
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 3: trail blazer and a lot of respect. So rest in peace,
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: Jesse Jackson. We are losing a lot of great uh
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: trail blazers from that time of marching and standing down,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: standing ten toes and we have a new we have
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: a new generation coming through though. Shout out to Jasmine
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: Crocket stand ten toes down, knuckled up. I love it so,
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  Speaker 3: uh you're right. Yeah, we covered it. We covered the
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  Speaker 3: Lady Mandelor, we covered it. Yeah, we got it. We
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  Speaker 3: had covered it earlier. Uh so check us out Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: We will be back eight pm. Rest up, Lady Mandelor,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: Rest up, Navy matel rest up, lady. It's been a
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: rough Tuesday for the crew. We will see you guys Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: Remember to educate yourself anothers, entertain yourself anothers, and most
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: of all, encourage yourself anothers on Chris Fury with this
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• 2:11:44
  Speaker 3: check out that Kickstarter and the pre dates as well
• 2:11:47
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• 2:11:50
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• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: Oh like are you okay? Like mad