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S6 E2: Trader Beane · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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  Speaker 2: You can see you breath out in the lake.
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  Speaker 1: Effect, breaking tables like guitar, would you here? Wherese would
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  Speaker 1: out here now, your family? Where's would you have to be?
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  Speaker 3: Where else would you have?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 2: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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  Speaker 2: Bills and NFL content again today and as always, these
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  Speaker 2: are my bills thoughts said out loud, so ridiculous shown,
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  Speaker 2: Where's what you want to be? All right, let's get
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  Speaker 2: straight to it. Really excited for tonight's episode. As always,
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  Speaker 2: click click we are back.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, last night was interesting and definitely had some
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  Speaker 2: drama to it for sure, between the Bills and the Sabers.
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  Speaker 2: And it was funny because just the way that the
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  Speaker 2: night was unfolding, you kind of looked at the clock
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, well, Savers games should be done by
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  Speaker 2: the time that the Bills are on the clock at
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  Speaker 2: twenty six. And then all of a sudden, a Savers
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  Speaker 2: game goes well, they go ahead and take the two
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  Speaker 2: one series lead, and all of a sudden, Brandon beans
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  Speaker 2: on the clock and he trades back, and then Brandon
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  Speaker 2: beans on the clock again. It's twenty eight and he
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  Speaker 2: trades back. Then he's on the clock at thirty one,
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  Speaker 2: any trades back again. Joining me tonight to kind of
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  Speaker 2: unpack it all. As always, my co host writing Shotgun,
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  Speaker 2: Adam dunk Truck Rupsick. Check him out on Instagram and
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  Speaker 2: Twitter at Adam Rupsick, r u p c z y
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  Speaker 2: k at the Crew DT. I mean, we got to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Trader Bean. I mean, he's he's living up
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  Speaker 2: to that Moniker man. He likes to make moves. We'll
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  Speaker 2: have to talk about it tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Nickel, City, what's up? What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Rob?
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  Speaker 3: Happy Friday? As we end April already, man, shit, we're
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  Speaker 3: into the draft and you know, schedule coming out a
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  Speaker 3: few weeks later and we're rolling so good time to
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  Speaker 3: be in Buffalo for sure. Interesting draft time. This is
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  Speaker 3: the most interesting draft time I've had and since I've
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  Speaker 3: lived up here, for sure, with the Sabers rocking and rolling,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, really don't know what we're gonna do
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  Speaker 3: with this new regime, you know, coming into the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to know how many of those fans
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  Speaker 3: out there did what I did.
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  Speaker 1: Last night.
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  Speaker 3: We had the nice you know, the obviously living room
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  Speaker 3: junior living room, senior dual screen action per usual here
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  Speaker 3: at the Batchpad.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we do it.
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  Speaker 3: And as soon as the Sabers game ended, didn't even
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  Speaker 3: watch post game or anything, clicked it off right over
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  Speaker 3: to the right over the draft, four or five picks away.
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  Speaker 1: All good. As soon as they trade, what happens?
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  Speaker 2: Rob?
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  Speaker 1: Turn the TV off? All right, I'm going to bed,
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  Speaker 1: Get into my bedroom. Look at the phone.
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  Speaker 3: Oh they only traded back to twenty eight. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: even see they only traded back to twenty eight.
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  Speaker 1: Walk back out the living room.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do?
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  Speaker 3: Flip it back on, gets to twenty eight, trade again,
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  Speaker 3: go back to bed. Oh they only moved back to
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  Speaker 3: thirty one. Go back out, trade it out. I said,
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  Speaker 3: all right, well, I'm actually going to bed this time,
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  Speaker 3: So they had me back and forth from the bedroom
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  Speaker 3: three times last night, Rob to see what was going on.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, you can't be too surprised. This is what
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  Speaker 3: they were kind of talking about all week. This is
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  Speaker 3: a might be a possibility. And you know, as much
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  Speaker 3: as some people thought it might have been a smoke screen,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't. And we got some capital for it, and
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  Speaker 3: we'll dig into that tonight. But Bean, he I mean,
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  Speaker 3: say what you want if you like it or don't
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  Speaker 3: like it. The dude made moves and got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of picks from it. We went from six picks to
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  Speaker 3: and here we are in day two about to start
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  Speaker 3: it off.
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  Speaker 2: So Ray Rock, Yeah, man, it's interesting because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I told you last week, and I told nicol City
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  Speaker 2: crew and people on Twitter, in my space and our
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  Speaker 2: spaces that that I'm always a part of that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm one team trade back. I know that we've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of holes to fill when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: Jim Lennond's new defense and need some depth and things
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  Speaker 2: like that. So I was always on board with the
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  Speaker 2: trade back. I didn't expect three of them, I'll be
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  Speaker 2: honest about that. And it's funny because all of the
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  Speaker 2: prospects and all of the guys that it seemed like
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  Speaker 2: the Bills might be targeting were just coming right off
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  Speaker 2: the board. Right before we all talked about how much
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  Speaker 2: everybody loved the idea of Casey conception and the things
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  Speaker 2: that he brings with his speed to the team, and
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's over for him. He's gone
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  Speaker 2: to Cleveland. And then you know, they talked about the
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  Speaker 2: boy themeeim and from the safety from Oregon, who wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even supposed to be there at that position in the draft,
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  Speaker 2: was there on the board. Then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: he goes and it was a situation where messidor Key
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  Speaker 2: messidor the nice defensive end from my the National Championship
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  Speaker 2: runner up, he was gone, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: one two three. I think it might have been a
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  Speaker 2: situation where Bean was like, you know what, some of
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  Speaker 2: the guys that I thought that I might want to
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  Speaker 2: take at twenty six are no longer there. Let me
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  Speaker 2: get out of here. Let me try to recoup that
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  Speaker 2: second round pick. And we always thought that that was
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  Speaker 2: a popular idea dt we talked about it last week.
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  Speaker 2: Bean doesn't like to sit on his hands, he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like to see the board just kind of scrolling along.
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  Speaker 2: He gets antsy and things like that. That's what he
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  Speaker 2: wants to do, those trade ups and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And then the offsetine It was so funny because he
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  Speaker 2: had said, you know, sometimes I've got to have somebody
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  Speaker 2: in there to kind of stop me from moving up
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  Speaker 2: and stop me from trading up because I like the
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  Speaker 2: action so much. Well, he trades back three different times, DT,
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  Speaker 2: and you're absolutely right, accumulates picks for that, and now DT,
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  Speaker 2: we're sitting starting off the second round pretty much. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's the third pick in the second round. We're
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  Speaker 2: starting off the day for the third round, and then
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  Speaker 2: we've got three fourth round picks, two fifth round picks.
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  Speaker 2: So DT, it happened hot and heavy. But if it
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  Speaker 2: was a situation where he didn't feel in love with
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  Speaker 2: the prober at twenty six or twenty eight or thirty
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  Speaker 2: one and thought that he can get a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna fit his his needs at thirty five tonight, I
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  Speaker 2: have a tough time being upset with it because of
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  Speaker 2: the fact that I know how much this guy loves
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  Speaker 2: the action and he wants to find a way to
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  Speaker 2: fill holes and we've got plenty of them to fill
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  Speaker 2: on defense.
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  Speaker 3: When it comes to the depth, Yeah, as much as
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  Speaker 3: secretive it as it is, I think there was some
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  Speaker 3: clarity as well with it, and I can get behind
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  Speaker 3: both narratives, Rob, And the fact of Casey conception On
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  Speaker 3: was a big name really since you know this whole
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  Speaker 3: time he came in for a Top thirty visit, we
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  Speaker 3: were on the receiver train as a fan base all
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  Speaker 3: the time, and you know that was that was something
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  Speaker 3: that the Bills thought could be a possibility in the
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  Speaker 3: and the Mafia and Nicol City crew did too. When
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  Speaker 3: he went, I think that kind of opened up the floodgates. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: he's gone, let's let's look and see what we can
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  Speaker 3: do and trade back or was that not the plan
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  Speaker 3: at all? That was just kind of make people think
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  Speaker 3: we want Casey conception On he goes and then start
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  Speaker 3: trading out like you don't care. But that was the
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  Speaker 3: that was the the whole time to trade out and
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  Speaker 3: get picks. Anyway, when it came to the safety from Moregan,
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  Speaker 3: how do you say his name again, Rob, Yeah, theen
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  Speaker 3: and so uh theenem in there. I think then you
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  Speaker 3: kind of got caught in a in a hard place
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  Speaker 3: because if you if you wanted him and he kept slipping,
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  Speaker 3: and you wanted him to get up in front of
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  Speaker 3: Chicago one pick ahead of you, they're obviously gonna know
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  Speaker 3: you're going after that guy. So then the price is
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a lot steep steeper to go get him.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what happened with what Houston did
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  Speaker 3: to Buffalo, And that's why Buffalo kind of capitalized on
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  Speaker 3: that trade, was because I think Buffalo knew who Houston
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  Speaker 3: wanted and you know, kind of worked that in and
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  Speaker 3: maybe played it off like they were gonna take it.
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  Speaker 3: Got some capital to make that happen. But once you
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  Speaker 3: got into that mid range, if Casey Conception was the name,
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  Speaker 3: and that was the name well known all over, he
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  Speaker 3: goes all right, let's move back, or that was the
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  Speaker 3: plan the whole time, And I don't think you could
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  Speaker 3: have made a move for the theenem in because that
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  Speaker 3: was too obvious at that point and the Bears would
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  Speaker 3: have had too high an asking price.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it tips your hand at that point in time.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny just because you know, I've gotten to
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  Speaker 2: a couple of debates on Twitter today while I was working,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, and some people were like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what's the difference, and you know, and what's
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  Speaker 2: the difference between the twenty six and thirty five. I
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  Speaker 2: really don't think that there's that much. This draft has
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  Speaker 2: been much maligned as a top end week draft. We've
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  Speaker 2: talked about that. They said that, you know that most
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  Speaker 2: of your major hits, most of the major damage that
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna do, is actually gonna be in these middle rounds,
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  Speaker 2: this this two to four range that's coming up between
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  Speaker 2: tonight and tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon when they start round
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  Speaker 2: four DC. I just like I said, I have a
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  Speaker 2: tough time really poking holes in the in the theory
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  Speaker 2: and in the execution because of the fact that we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a second round pick. Waited from twenty six
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  Speaker 2: to ninety one is a long time, and that's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of picks to go, that's a lot of prospects
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  Speaker 2: to go. Who knows how many different prospects that are
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  Speaker 2: on their board that they would have liked it within
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  Speaker 2: that range. So Bean finds a way to get himself
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  Speaker 2: back into the second round from that DJ more trade.
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  Speaker 2: And it's interesting because now, like I said third pick tonight,
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  Speaker 2: you've got the second pick tomorrow, just excuse me, second
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  Speaker 2: pick in the third round to start off that round,
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  Speaker 2: and then you start off the fourth round tomorrow, including
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  Speaker 2: you know, round three fourth round picks and two fifth
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  Speaker 2: round picks. All of them are going to be back
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  Speaker 2: to back when it comes to the later round and
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  Speaker 2: fourth round, you've got picked twenty five and twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: and then in the fifth round you also have picked
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty eight. So it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 2: see what being does and if he stands pat. I
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  Speaker 2: know that we've got some theories on that, but just
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  Speaker 2: from the execution standpoint, I think that it's just a
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  Speaker 2: draft that just didn't have a lot of blue chippers.
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  Speaker 2: When you're drafting late in the round anyway, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be hard to get a blue chipper anyway, DT,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see anybody that just stuck out like a
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  Speaker 2: sore thumb where it was like, I mean, I would
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  Speaker 2: have loved concept you, and I thought that he would
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  Speaker 2: have fit the offense with his speed, But after that
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  Speaker 2: there's nobody. I mean, I can't go get uponymous about
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  Speaker 2: a safety when they've already brought in a bunch of safeties.
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  Speaker 2: I can't go uponymous about an edge rusher, you know,
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  Speaker 2: who knows what messador is going to be. But there's
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  Speaker 2: other ed rushers, there's other safeties, There's going to be
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  Speaker 2: other ways to fill these holes in the later rounds DT.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not up in arms about any of it in
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  Speaker 2: that respect.
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  Speaker 3: I and we talk about not being full draft people
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  Speaker 3: and just kind of but you know, we had our
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  Speaker 3: tab on what this would be like, who would be
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  Speaker 3: kind of around this situation and literally everyone's there other
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  Speaker 3: than Casey conception on right, you know you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't like the I mean, I really am not worried.
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  Speaker 2: Still there.
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  Speaker 3: You got all those all those linebackers and that rushers
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  Speaker 3: in the SEC are still there in that in that run.
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  Speaker 3: But the you know, the fact I don't love, not
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  Speaker 3: scared of the Jets moved by any means. They do have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, three picks in the first round, but they
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  Speaker 3: they picked Omar Omar Cooper from Indiana, another receiver off
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  Speaker 3: the board in the division.
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  Speaker 1: That's a receiver you might have, you know, you might
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  Speaker 1: have been looking at.
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  Speaker 3: You know, obviously had the catch of the year against
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  Speaker 3: Penn State, and that was a that was a huge
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  Speaker 3: way to get him on the radar and show as
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  Speaker 3: athleticism as a national champion. He goes inner division to
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  Speaker 3: the Jets. You also trade in the in the division
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  Speaker 3: to the Patriots, and you know who knows what they
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  Speaker 3: got going on after a Super Bowl berth last year.
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  Speaker 3: But pretty much everybody in this realm of what we
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  Speaker 3: were looking at is still there right now, and we
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  Speaker 3: darn near have the first pick tonight. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have the pick of one of those people that we've
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  Speaker 3: been talking about for the last two months. With gaining
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  Speaker 3: all this extra capital and not picking them at twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you the Kada McDonald dud from Ohio State,
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  Speaker 3: if we took him at twenty six, people would be
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  Speaker 3: fine with it, I think. But now we can take
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  Speaker 3: him at thirty five. And now we got all this
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  Speaker 3: stuff to back us up as well. So it all
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  Speaker 3: comes down to picking the right guy, obviously, But you
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  Speaker 3: can't you can't knock Granton being for wheeling and dealing
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  Speaker 3: and really making a lot happen with those three picks.
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  Speaker 3: They gained a ton of capital. Now we talked about
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  Speaker 3: is he gonna keep moving? And I don't think you
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  Speaker 3: know there's gonna be nine picks, and you said it earlier,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know if nine people make the team,
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  Speaker 3: So how many how many picks do we do to
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  Speaker 3: night in rounds two and three that we only have
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  Speaker 3: two picks on the board. But I would bet we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be We're gonna see the bills up there at
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  Speaker 3: least three times, maybe even four tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be The interesting thing for sure, DT
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  Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be looking at tonight is because of
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  Speaker 2: the fact that now you've got all this AMMO, You've
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  Speaker 2: got all these different bullets in the chamber. I can
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  Speaker 2: see Brandon being trying to package some of those fourth
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  Speaker 2: rounders or some of those fifth rounders to try to
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and get back up into the third round,
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  Speaker 2: get or even maybe sneak back up into the second
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  Speaker 2: round in the late second if he can find a
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  Speaker 2: way to do it. I know that the roster needs
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  Speaker 2: work in respects to the defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: For Jim Leonard, I don't think nine players are making
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  Speaker 2: this team. That is. I think that's an exorbitant amount,
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  Speaker 2: especially for a team with a championship, you know, quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote championship roster. We're right there on the cuff of
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  Speaker 2: contending every single year. I don't see nine prospects making
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  Speaker 2: this team. So because of that, plus the practice squad,
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  Speaker 2: because of that, you've branded. Mean, if you don't know
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  Speaker 2: anything about your GM, you should know that he likes action,
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  Speaker 2: he likes to move around. Because of that, I could
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  Speaker 2: definitely see him trying to target guys now at this
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  Speaker 2: point in time, this is where you lean into your scouts.
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  Speaker 2: This is where all of those guys that go across
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  Speaker 2: the country away from their families half the year during
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  Speaker 2: the college football season, this is where you're gonna start
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  Speaker 2: to lean on those guys today. Who do you like?
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  Speaker 2: What did you like about this type of guy? What
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  Speaker 2: do the coaches say, what do the trainers say? Different
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  Speaker 2: things like that, they're going to be trying to pick
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  Speaker 2: and choose different targets that they like a lot the
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  Speaker 2: guys that they like, because now that you're out of
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  Speaker 2: the first round, you have an opportunity to be kind
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  Speaker 2: of picky and choosy in respect to Okay, I like
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  Speaker 2: this guy's tape, I like his makeup. Coaches had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good things to say about him. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: try to get this guy, because, like I've always said
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  Speaker 2: that the drafts a crapshoot anyway, So these are a
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  Speaker 2: lot ofy tickets. We don't know what's going to scratch
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  Speaker 2: off when you get them. But but boy, I know
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  Speaker 2: that there's going to be some guys that they like
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  Speaker 2: a lot, and I would not be surprised if being
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  Speaker 2: tries to go and target those specific guys get back
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  Speaker 2: up into that third round and possibly late second.
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  Speaker 1: It gives me some confidence as a fan base here, Rob.
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  Speaker 3: It gives me confidence to the fact of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're not just rolling through the ticker off the big board,
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  Speaker 3: taking the best available.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is our pick. Who's out there? Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that guy's good, let's pick him.
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  Speaker 3: It seems to me like he's making these moves knowing
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  Speaker 3: all right, our scouting team worse, we know kind of
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  Speaker 3: where the guys we want are going to be, and
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  Speaker 3: we're making the moves to be able to be in
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  Speaker 3: the positions to get them as opposed to stay in
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  Speaker 3: put and and just taking on the big board and
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  Speaker 3: who rolls and crossed in front of you. But more
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  Speaker 3: like a fantasy football draft, right, yeah, this is more.
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  Speaker 3: This is this feels a lot more strategy to me, right,
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  Speaker 3: and that's you know, glass half full being you know,
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: being a homer or whatever. But as as me in
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: this fan base, this gives me a lot more confidence
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: in the fact of he's making these moves because it
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: seems like they have a good list of guys they
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: want to go after and this is letting him do
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: that as opposed to just kind of letting the ticker roll.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: So in my eyes, it makes me confident going into
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: the night that there's a there's an actual plan.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: It's not just you know, taking what's in front of you.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting. I like it. Now. This is
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: something that I heard today on on g R this
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Morning and on the Morning Show, and the way that
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: they Joe sneaky Joe laid it out. I'm stealing it
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: because it's it's just it's too good for those of
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: you that were upset about the DJ Moore trade, and
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: there were a lot of you. I know that I
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: fought with a lot of you guys on the day
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: of that trade about how the Bill's paid too much
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: and that's you know, the second rounder, and he's he's
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: on the back end of his career, and got it,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: you know, and point poking holes and all of the
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: negative things about that trade and the price that was paid.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Think about it this way. They talked about it this
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: morning and DT, this kind of really encapsulates it for me,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: and I'm now I was already sold on DJ Moore
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: because we needed a wide receiver one you already know me.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I need somebody to replace Stefan Diggs, been looking for
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: him for years. But for the people that did not
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: like the price, listen to this. The bills traded pick
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: twenty six, pick sixty and pick ninety one. Okay, he
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: trades all of those, he gets back pick thirty five,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: sixty six, one O one one, twenty five, one sixty seven,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: So that's five picks and DJ Moore when you think
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: about it that way, and how that's packaging, when you
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: kind of tell it's kind of like the ivy the holder, Like, well,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: when you say it that way, DT, it doesn't seem
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: like it was that steep of a price in that respect.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I was interested to think about what you thought about it,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: because I I wasn't able to get that stat I
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: rewound it. I was at work and out and I
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: was like, let me just jop this down because that
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: that shit is goal. Yeah, pick twenty six ninety one
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and pick twenty six sixty and ninety one out the door,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: but you get back thirty five sixty six one o
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: one one twenty five one sixty seven in a draft
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: that's not, you know, considered top heavy. Plus DJ Moore,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I I I I'm I'm all good with it, man,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I really am. And I'm not even the biggest bean guy,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: but I'm I'm all good with that. That that works
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: That man, the biggest, the biggest part you slid it
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: in at the end. Plus DJ Moore, I mean if
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: we did if we did the Wattle trade for if again,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: if that is even true, right, if that's even true, right,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: but if we did the wattle trade for the first round. Okay,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: So twenty six is Jay the Model, and then you
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: get your so you're then you're picking at at sixty
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: and ninety one. Yeah, exactly, at the at sixty and
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: ninety one. So then you have to you're still down
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: three picks. You have Jalen Model, so let's call Jamen
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Model and and DJ Moore wash wash in that set.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: So you have Jalen Model and three less picks, so
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: is DJ Moore. If some people say, oh, he's not
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: as good as Jalen Moatte, well then that's why we
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: have three more picks with him, right, So I agree.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I think I think the capital is there. It's it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: everything when and I've been very vocal in saying that
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a big difference between DJ Moore
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: and Jalen Model anyway. And you know, a situation of
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: the division isn't going to trade us that guy just
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: for nothing, and that's part of the game. And I
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you know, that's that's part of it. I wouldn't
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: want to trade, you know, my receiver for to inner
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: division without a first round pick either. So that's that's
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: all fair on front ends. But yeah, once he kind
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: of proved that this is what I got for, it
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: wasn't just the first round pick I passed on. Yes,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I got rid of my second, but then I backed
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: it up with, you know, five extra picks. So I
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: think you know it literally, if you're you're doing it
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: just by quantity standpoint, there's a lot more opportunity on
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the way we're doing it now than training for Jalen
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Wanta on the first and you know, and being stuck
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: in that in that ninety spot so well, and it
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: could have been even deeper if Jalen Wanto did make
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: us push a little harder and we go to the
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: FC Championship and you know, and then then you're picking
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: at thirty. So these picks could have been even deeper
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: on the board. And now we have them up, so
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I agree. I mean, the numbers themselves, like love it
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: or hate it, but the math itself, it's higher value
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: this way than the Jalen Wadel first round would have been.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, and I mean, and a lot of people
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: are mad about it on Twitter. I saw, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: somebody was getting at me on Twitter.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: You're still gonna make the picks.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, he could be wrong, like he could have
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: these nine picks nine duds and and then yeah, you
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: should have picked Jalen Wanto with the first like yeah,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: that's that's part of it. But the math itself is
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: there's more beer in my glass than there was, And
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I like more.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Beer, Rob, I know you do, you know, And I
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: mean and for me, you know, DJ Moore, you know, yes,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: waddles faster, but I kind of in your camp that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I yes, there's a difference, but like you know, because
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: of the speed, the speed and is really the main thing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: But to me, a guy that's you know, ultra durable,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: gonna be there, gonna play. He fills the role that
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you needed as a wide receiver one for seventeen. I
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: just have a tough time. When they laid it out
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that way, it made me feel even better. And I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: was never really mad about the second round pick. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: thought it was a little steep, but it you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: when I look at it that way, like you said,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the math works for me. It fits, and you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily want to go back. Now, sure we
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: could go back and replay it, but I just don't.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That report came out and I wanted to believe it
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: because I wanted to be mad at that point, you
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. I was mad it was trade deadline.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I was ready, you know, pitchforks are out. I wanted
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to be mad at Brandon Bean. So you know, if
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the report is true that they really didn't want to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: deal with us, and they were charging us that twenty
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: twenty six first rounder and they weren't gonna let us
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: defer to twenty seven, then I get it because we're
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: division rivals, even regardless of the fact that they're tanking.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I just I was in a situation where I like
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Dj Moore. I like the fit again, I talked about
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it last week. I like the fact that he's worked
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: with with Joe Brady. I think that gives me a
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: level of comfort that Joe Brady actually knows what the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: hell's going on and how to utilize this guy the
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: right way. So for me, any of you guys out
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: there in the Mafia nicol City crew that are still
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: upset thinking that we paid too much, I hope that
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: last night Brandon Bee did a little bit to alleviate that,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: because now he's he's kind of made. He manufactured a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: second round pick out of nowhere, out of thin air,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and I just I just have a real tough time
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: being mad at that. I really do.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It's an interesting personality trade Rob. I mean, the dude
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: can't stop trading on draft Day, but can but then
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: can never pull a trade off in the regular season.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: You know, it's he loves the motion until until it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the regular season.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: So you could take that both ways, right, You could
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: take that as you know, well, he maybe he doesn't
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: know what he's doing in the draft as much, so
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: he's just trying to make trades that and he knows
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: he can do that and get as many people as possible.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: So if he picks nine people and four of them
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: are good, then he's looked at as a good GM.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: But it's it's an amazing personality trade. It's how much
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: motion this dude does on draft day since he started.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: This isn't just last night. I mean they're not yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: they're not drafting, they're not falling out of the first
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: round every year. But there's always movement. That James Cook
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: move was huge, you know, there's always that Brandon being
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: in this and and a lot of it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I put it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I don't have the stats in front of me, but
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I put his our transactions up there with anybody in
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the league over the sense being's been.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: In office there right, Oh yeah, he up.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think transactionally he does more than than most people.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: But then on the flip side of that, on the
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: regular in the regular season, he might be on the.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Lower end of that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: So an interesting personality trait, and but hey, he's loading
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the gun. And at the end of the day, it
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: is a numbers game. It's like a dating app. Rob
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: like yes, you pick, you pick and choose, and like, yes,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: there's people you see on the app that you like,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: would want more than others.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you gotta you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: just got a swipe because it's it's a numbers I
• 21:50
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• 21:50
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• 22:25
  Speaker 2: As we transition to tonight, we're about forty minutes a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: little bit less away from Round two starting. I know
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that you and I are not huge draft guys. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: know that we don't know all of the prospects and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: things like that. But for me, talk to me about
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: some of the needs that you think that we need
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to fill tonight in rounds two and three, because regardless
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: if he trades up more or not, we've got two picks,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: one and the second one and the third. I think
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that it is I think it's imperative that you go
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: ahead and tackle this nose tackle position at some point
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: in time, and then I think that you're just going
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: to have to get a linebacker, whether that's the boy
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: from ten Tech Jacob Rodriguez or I know the Georgia
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Boys C. J. Allen is very popular. These are players
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and positions more specifically that need to be addressed because
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of the depth. The depth needs to be addressed on
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: this team. We talked about it many times last year
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and the year before and stuff like that. The AJ
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: clins coming off the bench, and last year we're getting
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: cooked because the secondary's all fucked up. In the Denver game,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you've got Dame Jackson out there, and you've got what's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that safety's name that was getting cooked. You know what
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like, listen, injuries happened. It's a war of
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: attrition in the NFL. With a team like the Buffalo
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: bill that played deep into the season, you're going to
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: have to have depth. I think that those are two
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: positions that whether it be a Kada McDonald or whoever
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: at defensive tackle. I don't know all the prospects, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I do know that those are two positions that you're
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: gonna have to You're gonna have to address it like
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: it's high time. That's why I think he's definitely staying.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Some people are like, well, maybe he'll trade back. I
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: have to start the second round. No, he's gonna He
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: did his his funny games last night. He's picking at
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: thirty five the best player available that he feels fits.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: The need DT talk to me about some of the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: positions that you think we have to address, because for me,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: defensive tackle a true anchor. Because again I'll say again,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Dion Walker is not a nose tackle. Do not take
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: away the best things that he does. He's a polar
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: bear with nimble feet. Don't take that away from him
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: by making him beat Ted Washington. He's not Ted Washington.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And then linebacker man. You got Bernard coming off of
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: injury and an injury plague Lear Milano. Who knows if
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: he comes back, you don't necessarily want Buffalo Joe starting
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: for you come week one. Those are two positions you
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: gotta address.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, Yeah, I'm a lot more confident in
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: my knowledge of the scheme of a three to four
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: on the defensive line than I am in the linebacker
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: side of things, right in relation to how it's gonna
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: relate to the current roster we have. Right, Yes, Dion
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Walker doesn't need you know, isn't gonna be the nose tackle.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Oliver is not gonna be the nose tackle.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: TJ.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Sanders is gonna be the nose tackle. But the three
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: four insinuates that that's necessarily doesn't mean they're the defensive ends.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: You put that anchor in the middle. Those nose tackles
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: are those defensive linemen new to him, and then you
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: still have your defensive ends rotating through that linebacker stand
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: up or whatever in the case is, so you still
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: need that that nose tackle, like that's that's in need
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: in this in this defense unless you're gonna try to
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: do something uncharacteristic. Now, in that level of you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of you know, guys kind of
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: in that realm and a couple of them got picked.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: You know that that Florida kid went to the Vikings
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: and and he they basically put him in apples and orange,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: like you know, it's he's the same player as the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Caden McDonald from Ohio State.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Right now, it's like, okay, Mount.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: He's getting skimpy that he might be the only one
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: that true big body left, you know, and we might
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: have to take him in this pick. Linebacker wise, I'm
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a little more I don't have the knowledge on of
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: like how that's gonna look with who we have already,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: like obviously.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Malonald's free agent.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: But you know, is Bernard gonna be better in this
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: with a defensive line with a you put a big
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: run stuffer up front, so he has a little more space.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: In the back because he's not the biggest guy.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And then that has got him hurt and you know
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a situation where he can't get on the field and
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: slowed them down last year. Does that kind of open
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: up more weight on the defensive line. Let's the smaller
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: guy like Trel Bernard play better along with Dorian Williams
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: who kind of likes to fly around a lot. Does
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: that make them better or in fact that they're gonna
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: have to do more now with the three four because
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: there's there's more linebackers in the fact and you're not
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you know, Bradley Chubb isn't gonna be covering people and
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: in the flat. Greg Russeau is not gonna be covering
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: people in the flat. So you got to get that,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: you know, more traditional, you know, Mike middle linebacker and
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: let the guys like Trel Bernard and Dorian Williams who
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: are a little faster, get out in those flats and
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: make those make those plays. So I'm in a weird
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: like back and forth with that of like we got linebackers,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: so I don't like it's tough for me to say, yes,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I want a linebacker because I want to believe in
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Trel Bernard and he's made plays and Dorian Williams has
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: showing spots of it, and you know, Shaq Thompson, I
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: know he's not bad, but you know, somebody like that,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: whoever we signed as a veter and this this offseason
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: can come in and play that or is it is
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: it primitive? We definitely get that that nose tackle and
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I just keep leaning to like, I just know more
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: like that nose tackle we don't have, and we can
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: put that anchor in and that guy McDonald's right in
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: front of us, like, why wouldn't we do that? The
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: reverse and the depth piece of you know, you're putting
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of steak into you know, Christian Benford who's
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: been relatively healthy and good for you, A lot of
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: steak into Maxwell Harrison, who couldn't you know, get on
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the field. Was showed some spurts, but you know, had
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: some injury problems really all year. You put all that
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: into the cornerbacks and really bank on that, or you
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: had the depth piece and build for the future there.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I still think that's way less as a priority as
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: opposed to the noseguard or the linebacker. So if I'm
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: ranking nose, it goes noseguard linebacker than a corner death.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: But on the other side of this cone, we get
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: back to the receiver talk. I just want to get
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: to the point of I don't think I'm wrong until
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I'm proven wrong. On the fact of when we signed
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: steff On Diggs, we didn't draft anybody, and we knew
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: stuff on Diggs wasn't gonna be a lifetime deals. You know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: we didn't know it was going to and as quick
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: as it did, like you know, but we also didn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: know it was going to get the production it did
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: in those years either, So I kind of understand why
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: we didn't go after anybody during that time because we
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: were getting so much production from fourteen. But this, I
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: think the crucial mistake is when we let him go,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: we didn't replace him. We replaced him with Curtis Samuel,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: we replaced him with Josh Palmer, we replaced him with
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Keon Kole and then just obviously those aren't the Yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say key On Kuhlng was even that replacement,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: right because a year after.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: We traded him and then we drafted to Keon you know.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Like, but that like the replacement I'm saying doesn't come
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: when DJ Moore leaves in two years or retires in
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: two years. The replacement doesn't come two years. The replacement
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: comes tonight. On the fact of now, when DJ Moore
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: leaves in two years, you got a budding superstar wide
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: receiver that you're not paying shit to that you know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen Is is chilling with at age thirty three,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: you know, So that's like on the flip side.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Of the coin.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I can't get away from that mindset of like, we
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: didn't try that yet. We haven't drafted that receiver when
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: we not that we don't need one, but we haven't
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: drafted that receiver in a full receiver room to kind
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: of bud the next the next wave of when DJ
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Moore and those guys are out, the next superstar is
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: here with us and we're not paying them anything. So
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I can't get away from that. I would love to
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: see it. And you got the you know, you got
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: a few guys on the board that that are doable
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: in that spot at thirty five. But on the defensive side,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I would rank it nose backer than corner.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean corner corner is an interesting one too,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: because I know that it was pissing people off when
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: they kept mocking a corner to us in the first round.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody's like, well got Denver, we got Harrison, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, And I understood. I never thought that
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: they were gonna pick one in the first round. The
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: same way I never thought they were gonna pick a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: guard in the first round to take care of a
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: future need. And those are kind of to me, those
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: are more future needs. You can find somebody off the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: street or draft somebody late to be a developmental piece
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: to kind of help out. You are banking to answer
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: your question, DT, they are banking on Maxwell to be healthy.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: They are banking on Benford, who now they're paying money.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: He's not paid top corner money, but he's you know,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: he's compensated now well for his for his time. Those
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: are the guys. Those are your outside corners. And you
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: bring in Die Alfred to play Nickel to make up
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: for Toron Johnson. Those are the guys there. That's your
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: secondary in respects to those corners. So they are going
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to be kind of leaning on those guys to make
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: things happen, to make things shake. So it'll be interesting.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And you always know that I'm looking at wide receivers.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Denzel Boston is right there. You know, some people say
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: that he's not much of a separator, is kind of
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: like a Keon Coleman type of clone, but that he's
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: a better version of Keon Coleman. You've got zacharyah Branch,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: You've got the Chris Brazil, the huge guy from Tennessee.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You've got some guys Antonio Williams, who I do like
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: out of Clemson.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: It was a big guy who's a kid from Oklahoma.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: What's his burke?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Uh oh no, yeah, yes, Dion Burk's bell, Chris Bell
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: from Louisville. There. Now, there are some receivers for sure
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: that you're Elijah Surat from the National Championship Hoosiers.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then you're talking that played opposite Omar Cooper there.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Now you're talking on the opposite end.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we don't do it at thirty five, but
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: being gets back up into the second or back into
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the third, and when you know, and then takes the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: receiver there that I'm I'm just as pleased with that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm as pleased with the receiver.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: At any point tonight.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, second or third round.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm as pleased with any receiver at any point tonight.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I might be a little critical tonight if we get
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: a receiver, I'm pleased with it, whether it's a thirty
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: five or whatever we get into.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and you know it's funny because there
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: you know and shout out, you know, to Jay, he's
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: asking the same thing like, well, why didn't we get Boston.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I just think Jade, honestly, is that just last night
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: wasn't the night they had They had specific guys that
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: they wanted, Like we talked about, they had guys that
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: they wanted at ten and sixty, they weren't there, and
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: so after that they just kind of like, we could have.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Got Denzel Boston, we could get Denzel Boston right.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Now, and we could get them tonight. So that that's
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: to answer your question, day that I think that that's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: really what it comes down to, is the fact that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: they had a specific group maybe of Gouy and we're speculing.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Obviously we don't know their board, so we're speculating, but
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: we do think that there was right around they went
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: bang bang bang right around it was that theenom inn
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Those guys, Uh, they came
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: off the board, and after Mesador came up. I think
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that Being just said, you know what, let's pack it in,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: let's let's take these calls, and let's go ahead and
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: trade back. I did not expect three trade backs, but uh,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: being never ceases to surprise us. Now as we transitioned,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you know, before we wrap up tonight, because we've got
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: the draft coming up seven o'clock tonight, the Bills will again.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: They will pick third to start this second round, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see exactly what they do after
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: San Francisco and Arizona DT. What were some of your
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: surprises last night. I know that we were focused on
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the hockey game, and the hockey game was done. I
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: know for me now, I know everybody's gonna say Ty Simpson.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I listened. I listened to podcasts all the time, stuff
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: like that. So I had heard on Bill Zimmon's podcast.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Mcshaye had already come on, and I heard him last
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: week and he and he's and McShay is a fucking
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: he's plugged the fuck in And he was like, listen,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. I know I sound crazy. He's like,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: but McVeigh loves he loves to Simpson. He loves something.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So that really didn't surprise me as much. What did
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: surprise me was, really, honestly, was, you know, Houston drafting,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: like they thought that this guard is gonna be a
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and like they gave up a lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: to us to move up to grab this guard. And
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't know anything about him
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: in that respect. But but but Keelan Rutledge from Georgia Tech.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: They paid a big price Uston did to go get him,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and I that that kind of stuck out to me
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: along with some positives. I thought Dallas had a good night.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I thought the jets On had a relatively good night
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: as well. But what stuck out to you last night?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I know that ty Simpson is kind of the main one,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: but anything else that's stuck out to you last night?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the also on that you know, the
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Houston moving up there is that we give credit to
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Bean tonight on you know, getting quantity and getting picks,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: But did he have some gaman ship there to be
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: able to swindle?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Like did he sell that we were taking this guy?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Oh? Guard, I don't know. I would have been mad
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: as hell if they traded if they like what he's.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Selling it though, like it was for that for Houston
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to give us that haul like it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: It's got to be close, right I you know, obviously
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: the looking at the Chiefs with two first round picks,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: you know, in a in a and I'm split back
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: and forth because I want to hate on him and
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I want to you know, touch ship that they they
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: paid way too much to move up in front of
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Cleveland to get a corner that probably would have been
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: there at nine, no problem for him.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: And then they get you know, and then they get
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: their uh, you know, their other guy at the at
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the end of the first round, but Peter Woods.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: But I don't think he wasn't really highly as great
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: as as as Kate mcgillill.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: But they liked him and they needed a corner like
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: that was they they let both their corners walk and
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: so they needed a corner hundred percent.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, I hated to be there, guy.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I hated to be in that spot when we needed
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Kyrie Elam and we needed a corner bad and we
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: had everybody and we had to jump there and I
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: hated that, and they had to do it. And up
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: at in the top ten of the draft where you
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: know those corners really you rarely ever see other than
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: like Sauce Gardener, you ever see a top ten corner really,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: you know, they're always fifteen to thirty in that range
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: in the first round. So the Chiefs kind of moving
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: up awkwardly, you know, we knowing that I think Cleveland
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: was going to get that guy. So smart on Cleveland
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: part to move back and you know, get their get
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: their tackle they wanted anyway, and then they were still
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: able to get the receiver in conception on obviously no
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: skill players, which I'm fine with on the Chiefs. That's
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: really what my My thing was two first round picks
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: for the Kansas City Chiefs, and it went about as
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: good as I could have anticipated from a Chief's hater,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: right that they didn't go get a some skill player.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: They didn't get a Carnel Taate or something shit crazy,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: you know, in that in that top ten pick. So
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: that's what I was kind of looking at, obviously the
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Ty Simpson thing. But like you said, if if me,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: you know, McVay was was liking him, They're they're building.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: That's this is what I was talking about building for
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that with the receiver a couple of years later. Matt
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Stafford's definitely on the end. And if you don't have
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: a quarterback and or is it just the Rams haven't
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: had a first round pick in ten years, and they
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: did know.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: What to do, you know, but they got to prepare
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: for life after that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that, you know, the Jets obviously loaded up. Uh,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: it seems like they're picking tight ends every year. It
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: seems like there's a tight end on the Jets every
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: year and they have like a couple of good weeks
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: and and like everyone picks them up in fantasy and
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: then they just kind of suck because they don't have
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: a quarterback and right, and you know it's Geno Smith.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: So I'm surprised, even with those three picks that they
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: didn't take a quarterback.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: It was surprising to me.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I think everybody's waiting on twenty seven. Everybody's waiting for
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: next year's draft. There's just so many guys arch Man
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and all. Everybody's kind of just waiting for it. So
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: just showing.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, those were my my big takeaways of the
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: of the first was I had my eyes on the
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Chiefs pretty heavily, and it went about as good as
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I could have.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: You know, if I had to say, hey, this is
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: what I want.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: If the Chiefs are picking twice pick you know this
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: some corner early and this later, I would have said that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and how about the whole city Pittsburg getting
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: so they gottone state rival? Yeah, Instagram about that. Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I just thought that that was real funny. Not I
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: don't have anything against Picksburg. Or anything like that, but
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: it is it is clear. I know we don't get
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: into too much of the other stuff, but it is
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: clear that aj Brown is on his way out of
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Philly and the reports were coming out that he's going
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: to New England and New England is going through their
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: own thing. Before we wrap up tonight, DT, I guess, well,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: we could touch on it just as much as you
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: want to touch on it, whatever you feel comfortable touch
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: on it, because to me, you know, it's it's been interesting.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I have thought with a lot of people on Twitter.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: So before I give my my take as we begin
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: to wrap up tonight, what's your what's your take on it?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Because they're going through a lot of stuff obviously in
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: New England. That's never sad for Buffalo Buffalo Bill's fans
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to see. But I've got a kind of a different
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: take on it, for sure. But what what what? What
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: do you make? What? What do you make of it?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, whatever you know?
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: To be honest, like I can't. I'm not going to
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: disappoint myself by putting a lot of stock into this.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: And then you know, and the Patriots are just as
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: good next year, and you know they're they're forced, you're
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: gonna have to still play them in and face this guy, right,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna disappoint myself and get too into
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: this and be like, oh, you guys, I.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Don't think he's getting don't think he's getting fired. Correct.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I think be a consensus on.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: That where zero zero going zero percent chances at their job,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: even if like even if like all this is true
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: of like what's going on, which most likely it's not
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: not saying it's not true, but like the intensity of it,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: like of what people are saying is true, Like even
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: if all that was true.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: He's not getting fired. There's nothing illegal he did, you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: But I mean, for her, it's definitely a lot worse.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Some people are trying to say here so just so
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: you know, some people are trying to say that this
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: was all for insider information. And I keep telling people
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: on Twitter that that is not how men work like that,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that well most men, most men, that's not how we're
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: not doing like and then it comes out like yesterday
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: that they've been doing it for six years or or
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: there's photos at least for six I'm like, this is
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it's not, this wasn't I'm like, well, if it was
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: for insider information. What did it yield his Tennessee Titan teams?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I said, what, so he got one? He got one
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: number one overall see in the AFC, and then they lost, right,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Like what did he gain from inside? Like, I'm just
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: not getting it. I'm like, oh, well they gave they
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: traded inside for information to them, So that's how they're
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: getting a J. Brown. I'm like, you don't think that
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the that the Patriots could get in contact with hy
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Roseman about a J. Brown? Like like, what are we Like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: what are we talking about here?
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: And the dude has been the dude has been talked
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: about getting traded for two years every single day.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was been talked about getting traded the last
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: two years every day. Yeah, No, that's BS.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I think on her end, there's a little different, because, yes,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: that's a little more intense. If she is doing this
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: to get information that helps her vote her higher into
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the job and get the leak on things you know
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: before others strictly because of this, then that's a little
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: messier than you know, Mike Vrabel, you know.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I just told a lot
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: of people on Twitter just to relax and that this
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: is a you know, this isould be something that is
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: focused on between them, their their spouses, and their family.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Those are the people that really should care. And and
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: it triggered something for me because of the fact that
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I've got PTSD from from Tiger Woods. I didn't think
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: that there was anybody's fucking business what was going on
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: with Tiger Woods. Yeah, and then all the Tiger and
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: then all of the you know, all of his colleagues
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: out there, and like some of those guys were cheating
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: on their wives too. We don't know. And that's literally
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: my whole point is that we don't know what's happening
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: with these athletes and entertainers behind closed doors. So let's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: just let's take a step back. Let's let's just let
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: them play it out. They'll figure it out. These are
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: their lives. But I just never I was never comfortable
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: with like, oh my gosh, this guy needs to be
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: fired and this not just I just never was able
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: to connect the doctor.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope it leads to distractions. I hope it
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: leads to distractions. In week one, they're still asking them
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: about it, right, Sure, I hope that, But like du.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: He's not getting fired. No, no shot. He's a he's
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a patriot, he's a Hall of Famer. He's a patriot,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: hall of Famer.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: There's yeah, this is zero percent chance he's getting fired,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: especially with Robert Kraft, you know.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Liking uh like it, but he likes in the in
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the in the old massage parlor. So that's you know,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: it is what it is.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And yet I mean ship bringing up the tiger point.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Tiger's lucky that that was pre social media really, you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: it was the Internet was just getting started.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And now this and they still and they still dragged him.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And this is a couple of photos and people are
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: pulling up tweets and pictures from you know, ten years
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: ago for Rabel and Recini. It's it's nuts a lesson
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: to be learned, like you're never safe. You're never safe
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: out there, and the way the internet, the Internet's undefeated,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: they'll find you and they'll take you down. This was
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: obviously a hit job on all accounts, like somebody randomly
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: didn't just see them on another terrorist the.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Plugs are saying, that's that one of the spouses hired
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: a PI because they were.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: There's no, it wasn't like somebody was just having their
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: coffee on a terrorist. It was like, is that Mike Rabel?
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Like who would he be? Like, you might be able
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: to pick Mike Brabel out, but picking Diana Rasini out
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: of a no, So that was obviously professional. Somebody was
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: tracking them. It came out and then now there's breadcrumbs
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: that show it, so you know, I I love it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I hope it does lead to distraction to the Patriots
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: organization and they make some bad calls this weekend because
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: of it. But yeah, the dude's not getting fired and
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: you still got to play him twice a year with
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: aj Brown now, so buckle up and you know whatever.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Get ready. Yeah, yeah, we're not gonna get a free
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: b on that one. So as we wrap up tonight,
• 42:15
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• 42:41
  Speaker 2: We talked about the playoff atmosphere. I'm gonna wear my
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: hat until we're out of the playoffs. We've never done
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Nickel City crew during a Sabers playoff. First time that
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: we get a chance to do this. So this is
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: my official playoff Beard. I'm not going to grow up.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I'll still get my haircut, but I will wear the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: hat until the Savers are out. It was pretty cool,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: LA's not to see the Savers get back on their
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: on their wagon. They were looking good and had a
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: nice solid game where they just controlled the puck the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: entire time. Talk to me about how it's been the
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: vibes there in the city, because I know that they're
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: getting ready for Sunday and then the excuse me, then
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: the Savings will be back in time next week and
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: hopefully you get a chance to wrap this thing up.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Rob, this has been one of the
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: most incredible weeks I've seen, you know, in Buffalo, since
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I've lived here, since I've heard since.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Anything, this has been incredible.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love the Bill season, I love I
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: love a fall day on game day, coming out and
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: seeing all the flags, people Wegmans in their jerseys. That's
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: just the way of life, right, That's just that's why
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: we love it up here. That's just the way of life.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: But you know, and obviously the Ralph the tailgates get
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: crazy and you get bumping. But it's more, you know,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: it's it's a way of life.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: It's routine. It's it's not that it's doesn't lose luster.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: It's still full. You know, Bill's Mafia's still full.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: What we do, it's just what we do. Yeah, it's
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: just what we do.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: It's our job.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: At some points, this seems a little different. This seems
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: like a like a like a party. And yeah, you
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: hit a six scratch off the day you were leaving
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: for vacations. You got a little extra cash in your
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: pocket and your and your invocation just kind of like
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: with no, you know, no nothing. And it's been an
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: outstanding week. Credit to the city of Buffalo and for
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: really putting on a good show. Credit to the fans
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: for really coming out and showing out. I mean, Sunday
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't make it down town. But obviously the game
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: was insane and the clips is everyone. I'm sure I
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: have seen the comeback victory. Everybody I know that was
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: there said, you know, they've been to plenty of Bills games.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: It's been real loud on third down. Nothing has been
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: louder than that Sunday, that third period when Sam has
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: won scored back to go up. Nothing that has heard
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: has been louder than that. And then Tuesday I went
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: down into the scene. I didn't go to the game,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: but I went down to the scene right after work
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: just to kind of see what it was about.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I got there.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Puck drop was at seven thirty. I got wheels down.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: I was out of the car at four thirty. And
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: you saw the videos. I mean, maybe we put them
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: up on on our Instagram or something this week, but
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: the it was insane.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: A it was.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: It was three hours before puck drop. And it wasn't
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: just a couple of bars had some people in them.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: The bars were completely full. People were out in the streets.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: The guys that were skating, the ball skating guys had
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: a whole like thousand people around him doing like a
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: little show like it's like it's like a traveling circus.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was just everyone's in a good mood.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Everyone's happy.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: You didn't see a lot of Boston people, and it
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: was a great, great night, good weather. And and then
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: obviously they were away last night, came got back on
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: track and you know, and got the dub.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Sunday.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I think is gonna be ripping here. It's a Mattine game.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: People like his mouth for a little Sunday fun day.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: The weather looks a little better, and yeah, and then
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: and then boom, they could have the clincher on Tuesday,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: back back downtown, and I think it's gonna be just
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: the same, everyone rolling back out to to see him
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: clinch and move on. And I think that's gonna be
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: the vibe the whole playoffs. And hopefully they go as
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: far as they the whole way, because that's gonna be awesome.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: But definitely shout out to Queen City Vintage or sponsor
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: on the tailgate report. Nick's a little nervous. You know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: he's got a lot more bill stuff than he does
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Sabers stuff. He's got a lot more bill stuff to
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: sell them stuff Rob And so they had a big
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: event last night down at Chandler Street Brewing, and he
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: said the people at Chandler Street were getting upset almost
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: because they had so many people show up there for
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: the game and they couldn't keep up.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: The bartenders couldn't keep up with the drinks there was.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: It was too bad.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: They go, geez, we didn't realize you guys were going
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: to bring a crowd like this. And they's like, hey
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: it one, yeah, big Queen City bench is big. And
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: two the people are taking this playoff run serious, you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: because who knows, who knows if we got to wait
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: another fifteen years before we do it again.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: So let's buckle in, Sabers. I love it. It's been
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a great week.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: The city is literally buzzing, man, it's buzzing, and it's
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: it's all all around.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: So I can't.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna look forward to the draft tonight
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: and tomorrow, but I cannot wait for two o'clock on Sunday.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Rob.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It is it is must sy right now out here.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: It's it's fucking awesome.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's I mean, that's a perfect plan. You
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: go get some breakfast and get some brunch, get some emosas,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: and then head downtown and you'll be in a situation
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: where like DT is right I saw, I've seen the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: videos and just I mean, it's it's crawling, like they're
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: just everybody. I just saw on Instagram today that Lancaster
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: had had a party last night. To watch party, they
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: just shut down the whole street and people are getting
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: there in the middle of five thousand people on the street.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I don't even know there are five thousand people with Lancaster.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: It's it's amazing, man. And I think that it's just
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: so cool because of the fact that, like it's what
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: we talked about, you know, last weekend, and what we've
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: always talked about with the bills. Just the weight makes
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: it that much sweeter. Yes, the drought sucked, Yes it
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: was horrible. But boy, when I got down there to Jacksonville,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: when I tell you, like, I had no care, Like
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: you said, no care in the world, I had no
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: care in the world. I did, Yes, I care. Like
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: it took me. I tell the story all the time.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: It's me a half to realize that. I'm like, I'm
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: at a football game and I'm like, holy shit, like
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: we could win this game. These guys are fucking horrible,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Like we let's win the first half. The tailgate, I didn't,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I just didn't care. I didn't care DT. I just
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: want to do it, just soak it all in and
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: enjoy it. So I am so excited for the city
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: of Buffalo. Like you said, Sabers fans, the diehards, look
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the ones like you and me for the Bills. The
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: diehards that just it's their way of life. They watch
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: every game, they don't miss any buck drops. They've been
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: through all the shitty teams and the tanking, and then
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: they get Icle and Ryan Harden and they're still shitty,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: and then they want to leave. And then you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Riley leaves and he goes wins the Cup. Then Jack leaves,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: he goes, win's a Cup. Then fucking Sam, I'm like, what,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: like is this a hex? Like? How did all these
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: great players leave? And then they win the Cup the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: very next year. So I am really excited for the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Sabers fans, and really the diehards. That's one of the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: ones that I think about. Like we said last week,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: everybody can get on the bandwagon. We're cool, everybody coming
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: on and it's all good because we're all won Buffalo.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: But for those diehards, I know that it's got to
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: be sweet. The goal for Samuelson. I must have listened
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: to that and must have watched it like fifty times,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: and then somebody came out with like no no commentary
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: on it, and it was just the sound of the crowd,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: crowd sound all this shit because they yelled twice. They
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: yelled right when he got that pass, and then they
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: yelled to get like right before they like and then
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: when you know, it was like, man, I how you
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: hear a.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Whole arena like gasp at the same time, and you're like,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: it's crazy.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: When he got that pass, they all yeah, and then
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and then they just yeah, they exploded.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: So it was it's been I will I will say,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: you know, let's stay positive. What are we call it, Sabers,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Sabers mafia whatever, you know, I don't know. I'm I'm
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: a Savers fan, but I wouldn't consider myself in the
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: in the mafia of the Sabers. I'm a maid man
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: and the Bills mafia, but Savers I'm honorary, right, So
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I would say, you know, let's let's keep it positive.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Savors mafia. We don't it's not a competition just because
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: now everyone's on their high horse. You don't got to
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: start talking about it's a hockey town, all this bullshit,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Like I don't want to hear that, you know, you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: don't be bad mouthing once having because he beats the
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: drum and you get your ask. We hear that either,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: like we are hearing that, so like hey, like have
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: fun kids, but yo, yo, y'all, like let's you know,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: let's let's let's watch it, bore, let's watch it.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Let's watch your mouth a little bit in that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Like I go out of town and I tell somebody
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm from Buffalo and they talk about Josh Allen.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: They no offense, they ain't talking about Thompson. That's just
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: me saying, yo, say die Hard Sabers, it's a good bob.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Just take it easy a little bet.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: No, man, it's all good man, It's all of all
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: one Buffalo. And I always say that for sure. I
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: used to get upset with people say it's a hockey town,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, there's just no comparison. But like I
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: said last week, now it's not the time. Let's let's roll.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I will wear this playoff hat throughout the playoffs until
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the Sabers bow out, and hopefully that is not until
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: we're lifting Lord Stanley's Cup. And somebody asked the other day, like,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: you know, what would you what would you rather have
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: a you know, the Bills winners all this. I'm like
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: like like, just like this is a dumb fucking question,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: like like we would love for a championship regardless, Like
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: it doesn't it's not a competition. The DT's absolutely right
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: if they win the Cup. I will be happy as hell.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I won't be getting in a car, like I said
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: last week, to drive up because I'm a Sabers fan.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: That Monday, I'm driving up and I'll be ready for
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: the parade whenever it happens on Tuesday or Wednesday. So
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: that's just a different fandom that I have. But I
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: am so excited. Like I said last week, keep it up, Sabers,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: go Saves, whatever y'all say. Man, I'm down with it, man,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: and let's keep it going as long as we can. DT.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I'm excited for this weekend. You're absolutely right. Let me
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: know what happens on Sunday for sure, if you head
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: down there and what's going on, because you're absolutely right,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: they could they could dominate again on Sunday. They had
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the puck all night last night, they could dominate on
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Sunday and come back and wouldn't that be fucking sweet
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: to close out the series in front of your home
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: fans at Key Bank. That'll that'll just be the icing
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: on the cake, man, That'll be a nice little cherry
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: on top, for sure.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get some rest before, you know, if you do
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: adits not take it too of our head. But if
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: you do advance, that Montreal Tampa series is you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: that's they're battling each other to get in too, so
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: as quick as obviously, you want to win as quick
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: as possible, obviously, And yeah, yeah, come back, do it
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: in front of this crazy fan base and give them
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: some time to kind of dry out, you know, until
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: the next week when the next series start, and then
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: we can give you that we can.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Give that energy right back.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love it. I love it. I love it.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Listen bit out there, enjoy your weekend, Bills, Maffi, enjoy
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the draft, enjoy the Sabers again. In a couple of minutes,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the Bills will kick off round two. As of now,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: they are picking third. You know, Brandon Bean likes Tom
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Wheel and deal. We'll see if he stays there. I
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: suspect that he will and take what do they say, BPA,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: the best player available. Shout out to all of you,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I see you, guys. Over four hundred and fifty people
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: DT watching us. We really appreciate you guys. Last week
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: shout out as well, whole bunch of people went back
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: and watched that didn't catch it live, but went back
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: and watched on my Twitter, and went on Buffalo fan
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: base Twitter and watched and I saw you guys, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I just DT already knows how much gratitude I have.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: We would not be doing this if it wasn't for
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: you guys. I was doing it because I just talk
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: about the Bills all the time, and I'm a maniac,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: so I said I might as well start saying this
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: stuff out loud. And that's literally the moniker of the
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: show Bills thoughts that out loud, and DT short joined
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: me shortly thereafter, So the fans of what makes the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: show go, we really appreciate you guys. Enjoy yourselves, be
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: safe out there this week, and enjoy the draft tonight
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: and tomorrow. DT nothing really else to say, Man, listen,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: enjoy it tonight, have a fun weekend, my brother. Man.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Listen go, Bills, go Savs. Hit me, hit hit me
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: with it. You gotta say, God, I think it's saved.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Bills.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Oh I love it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Man, please out there, spread love, not hate. Oh I
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: love it. I love it. I love it.