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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, January eighteenth. I'm your host,
- 0:04tom Or. The Acron game is in two hundred and twenty six days.
- 0:07The game againstistually get in three hundred and seventeen days. And it just hit
- 0:11me right this very second, twenty two years old, twenty two years ago
- 0:16today, Jim Tressel stood in the middle of the basketball court at the Shottenstein
- 0:21Center and told you what was gonna happen in three hundred and ten days.
- 0:23So I got to pay I guess a little homage to the countdown that I
- 0:27guess sort of vaguely inspired the countdowns at the start of this show every single
- 0:31day. So there you go, twenty two years ago today. Boy,
- 0:36we're all getting old. Speaking of people who are getting old, Tony grdim
- 0:38and I fuck I had over dot com joins me, Tony. You and
- 0:41I got to spend some quality time together Wednesday around lunchtime to meet Ohio State's
- 0:46new athletic director, Ross Bjork. And you know, I think there was
- 0:50a lot of stuff that we sort of knew about him coming in. One
- 0:53thing I did not know about him until he started talking about it is Ross
- 0:57Bjork has some pretty significant face only ties to the state of Ohio. Yeah,
- 1:02and the best part of the state of Ohio, Northwest Ohio. His
- 1:06mother is from Williamsburg, Williamstown, Williamstown, Williamstown. There's a bunch of
- 1:14them, Tom, you'll figure it out one day. But yeah, up
- 1:18in the northwest area of the state. And so I thought it was interesting
- 1:23talking about how that's where his mom's side is from. His dad's side is
- 1:27from like Denver, and so during holidays you'd have to decide which, you
- 1:32know, where are you going to go, Ohio or Denver because he was
- 1:34in a Dodge City, Kansas, that's where his family ended up. And
- 1:38so I talked about, you know, dry getting on I seventy and that
- 1:41sounds like the longest, most boring drive all the way to Dayton and then
- 1:47you shoot up north on seventy five. But talking about you know, just
- 1:52making that drive and then hitting the gravel road that takes you to the family
- 1:56farm takes me back to very simi things. So obviously you know, well
- 2:02great stock that he's from. Afterwards, I did introduce myself to his mother
- 2:07and said, hey, I'm an Henry County person. Here and so you
- 2:10know, we said our helloes. But yeah, his mom's side of the
- 2:16family all decked out in Ohio State gear and that's not new clothes. I'm
- 2:23guessing that came from their closets that have been in there. And he did
- 2:25say, if you follow my mom on Facebook, she posts more about Ohio
- 2:29State than she ever did about Texas A and M I can't wait for his
- 2:32mom's hot takes on all the things he's doing wrong. If she's an Ohio
- 2:37State fan, she will have some thoughts, I'm sure at some point on
- 2:39some things. So we'll see if he leans on his mom's expertise at any
- 2:44point in terms of leading the Ohio State Athletic Department. But one of the
- 2:47things that he's going to be in charge of, and one of the things
- 2:50that he's sort of known for reputationally, is fundraising and development. And he
- 2:54talked a little bit about the difference between fundraising and development, which as someone
- 2:58who is development at a nonprofit, I'm kind of nodding along as he's saying
- 3:04all of these things, but you know, it is I think probably one
- 3:08of you know, the main thing, obviously, he said, the most
- 3:12important thing is, you know, a good experience for all the student athletes.
- 3:16But also it feels like fundraising and development is going to be you know
- 3:20that. That feels like that's a good chunk of the reason that Ross b
- 3:23Yorke was standing at the podium on Wednesday afternoon. Yeah, as I'm going
- 3:29through my head earlier in today, like what questions do I want to answer?
- 3:31Ask? And I've got all these questions and one of the ones I
- 3:35wanted to ask is, if your job is a pie, what are the
- 3:39three biggest pieces of that pie? Like what part of your job you know
- 3:44would constitute the three biggest pieces of your entire job? And somewhere in those
- 3:49top three is going to be that fundraising. And I've said it on I
- 3:53think Twitter, on the buck I had a message board. If you can
- 3:57fundraise and you can just screw something up, then you can be an athletic
- 4:00director. Now can you do that at Ohio State? That's another animal entirely,
- 4:05But it was interesting listening to him talk about how are you become a
- 4:11good fundraiser? And basically it's communication, a well laid out plan, and
- 4:15then if you do that well enough, you won't even have to ask for
- 4:18money. People will just be like, how can I help you? And
- 4:23that sounds incredibly easy, Tom. I don't know if you're aware of how
- 4:27easy that is. But to just be organized, communicate, and you have
- 4:30good ideas or have good ideas brought to you that you can put forward to
- 4:35these people that want to give you the money. Yeah, he said that
- 4:39was the difference through fundraising. Development was development means you get to the point
- 4:42where they're asking you how can I help you? You're developing that relationship development
- 4:46that interests. That was one of those points during which I was kind of
- 4:49nodding along, like uh huh, I've I've seen and heard this elsewhere in
- 4:54my in my life, and it is one of the cruisms of fundraising slash
- 4:59development, that is that is one of those things. He was also asked
- 5:02about some of the other elements of his story and elements of his past.
- 5:06He is currently he will not you know, he will not officially be the
- 5:11AD at Ohio State until July first, So he is currently still the AD
- 5:15at Texas A and M, where he just hired Mike Elco, which I
- 5:16think is viewed as a pretty good, pretty solid higher and a kind of
- 5:23smart, reputable coach who's probably going to do good things there. But earlier
- 5:27in his career, he was the one who helped extend Jimbo Fisher's contract that
- 5:31then they had to buy out at the end of last season. So you
- 5:34know, he was asked a little bit about that whole process and his time
- 5:39at Texas A and M and his role in the whole Jimbo Fisher, I
- 5:42don't want to say fiasco, but situation. So what did he have to
- 5:46say about all of that, Well, he did mention in twenty twenty one,
- 5:49there came an opening somewhere else around the nation that kind of caused an
- 5:54extension and what it was a LSU that he was maybe referring to, where
- 5:57there's some some talk about Fisher maybe going to LSU at one point. So
- 6:03this is part of the thing that you have to do. You have to
- 6:05extend coaches, You have to show them that they're wanted when when one job
- 6:11opens. I mean, look at the incredible domino effect that is happening from
- 6:15Nick Saban retiring. It is going to impact forty programs before this is all
- 6:20finally stopped. All the dishes finally stopped spinning. But yeah, it's been
- 6:29the way he has answered that addressed those things. The Fisher thing talking about
- 6:34how you're not necessarily forced into this, but there are external factors, and
- 6:41they're also external factors driving you to this in terms of people, in terms
- 6:46of situations, circumstances, it's not just him going, you know what I'd
- 6:50like to do. I think I'd like to just give Jimbo Fisher an extension.
- 6:56I know he's not even asking for one. I know there's no reason
- 6:58to give him one, but there's just you've got to kind of play the
- 7:03cards that you're being dealt at any given day. And the current state of
- 7:09college football head coaching is way beyond I think anybody gotten had in their mind
- 7:15twenty years ago and now that you're in this business. He got into it.
- 7:17He's been an ad for like thirty years or whatever, and now this
- 7:23is swimming with sharks area areas that he's in now, and sometimes you just
- 7:28have to get your arm bit en off. And that's not really a unique
- 7:33thing for him by any means. I mean that if you look at the
- 7:38Nick Saban retirement and the cascade effect from that in terms of how many different
- 7:42people got extensions or got pay bumps. And then of course you have some
- 7:46of the people who jumped, you know, Ki when the boar jumps to
- 7:48Alabama and that allows Jedfish to jump to Washington, and that allows the San
- 7:54Jose State coach you jump to Arizona, and it's just kind of a little
- 7:58bit out of a cascade effect there. So yeah, it is. This
- 8:01is I think a little bit of the realities to the market, and that
- 8:05market may be changing to a certain degree because there are other economic forces at
- 8:11work other than just Jimmy Sexton clients and Grace Armstrong clients and all of that
- 8:16sort of being able to play the game. Now, some of the realities
- 8:20of the finances of college football and college sports in general are starting to change
- 8:26with Charlie Baker proposal and you know, schools potentially bringing an il house and
- 8:30all that kind of stuff. You know, you can sort of ask someone,
- 8:33so what do you think about the future of college sports? And then
- 8:37it's just like, all right, well, I'm going to go just set
- 8:39a recorder down and walk away, and I'll come back in three hours and
- 8:43I'm sure you will have basically written me an entire book. So are what
- 8:48are ross Gyork's views on the future of college sports. Yeah, in a
- 8:54tiny SoundBite. Basically, I thought it was interesting. He talked about the
- 8:58alignment that you need to have in the university from the president down to the
- 9:03ad down to the coaches, and I think the alignment at Ohio State is
- 9:07that change is coming. You have to be part of the change. You
- 9:09have to figure out how to compensate the players, the student athletes, and
- 9:16that's going to change other aspects of fundraising. So that's why you go get
- 9:20a very good fundraiser to help deal with all of this. But the interesting
- 9:26thing for me when he talked about how he sees a tipping point coming in
- 9:30the next three to five years in terms of whether it's breaking away, whether
- 9:33it's who knows, And obviously I think we're going to see some compensations before
- 9:39then, but in terms of the breaking away of the haves versus the have
- 9:43nots, or they have very much is versus the have not nearly as much
- 9:46as But then I asked him, are you looking forward to that tipping point?
- 9:50And he said, I just am looking forward to clarity and no longer
- 9:54being in the gray of any of this. Having a legally defended plan.
- 10:01I think is also key because they're waiting on you know, the NCAA to
- 10:05do their thing, They're waiting on Congress to do their thing. They he
- 10:09is looking forward to. Yes, there's gonna be some upheaval, it's gonna
- 10:13be crazy, but it has been crazy for about four years now with everything
- 10:16going on, and that includes a year in there with with COVID where everything
- 10:22else is going crazy and as still continue to impact the bottom line for a
- 10:26lot of people. He is just ready for things to settle down. And
- 10:30it reminds me of the thing that Ryan Day has always said, let's just
- 10:33stop changing stuff. Let's just because every time you change something, there is
- 10:37a butterfly effect and there's something else that that happens from that. So let's
- 10:41just get through this right now. But I do think both, I think
- 10:46Ted Carter and both and Ross York as well. I think as Ross Byork
- 10:52that said there are some things that you can do right now without splitting off,
- 10:54and that's fixed December, and I think December, We've talked about it
- 10:58so many times. Tom December is an impossible time for coaches in ball games
- 11:03with the portal, with the signing day, they need to fix that.
- 11:05He said, we should be able to do that right now without having to
- 11:09break away from anybody in the lower tiers or the higher tiers or whatever.
- 11:13They should be able to sit down, talk this out and get it fixed.
- 11:18Yeah, there are sort of shorter term fixable problems and medium term fixable
- 11:22problems, and then who knows about the long term at this point. But
- 11:26you know, you talked about the haves and the have nots, and financially,
- 11:30Ohio State is one of the haves, and on the field, Ohio
- 11:33State is one of the haves. He's asked how he perceived Ohio State,
- 11:35you know, before he even applied for the open athletic director position, and
- 11:41he said, quote, championship of brand period. And I think that's something
- 11:46that you know, we'll see how much Ohio State fans agree with and disagree
- 11:50with with what he does over the you know, the coming years. But
- 11:52I think that's one thing that Ohio State fans will definitely align with very closely
- 11:56there with alignment being such a key thing, the expectations are pretty clear there.
- 12:03Championships and He's had a lot of very very positive things to say about
- 12:07Ryan Day and thinks he's a championship coach, but I think that is sort
- 12:11of sending a message on day one championship brand period that means you're expecting some
- 12:18championships. Yeah. And then after his press conference he broke away a little
- 12:22bit and talked to busting a little scrum and was asked basically, what are
- 12:28the standards and do you know what are the standards? And he said,
- 12:31championships and that's what it's always been. And he spoke earlier about removing barriers
- 12:37for those championships and finding ways to help the coaches achieve their goals and things
- 12:43like that. And you know there are some programs at Ohio State that are
- 12:48meeting that standard. He mentioned the women's hockey team for one, looking forward
- 12:52to getting to know them better as they, you know, attempt to win
- 12:56a national title. But the championship aspect, the desire for that, it's
- 13:01not something that Jean Smith hasn't also wanted. So you know, there's only
- 13:05why didn't the previous guy want to win championships? You know, there's there's
- 13:09nothing, there's not that aspect of it. But I do think it's good
- 13:15for the fans to hear that. It's good for the players to hear that,
- 13:18it's great for the coaches to hear that, yeah, that's uh,
- 13:22you know, yes, that the expectation on day one, and then you
- 13:26kind of go from there. Yes, I'm sure, I'm sure it has
- 13:28occurred to Jean Smith that hey, we should we should try to win championships.
- 13:31And they have won a lot of championships over the years in various sports,
- 13:35including football. With Jean Smith at the home of the Ohistate football program.
- 13:39Uh, just wanted to end this on this. I think my single
- 13:43favorite money moment, Tony was when Russ Biorker is at the podium and he's
- 13:48coached in you know, he has been an AD at multiple SEC schools,
- 13:50so he as they say in New York, he knows from crazy football fans.
- 13:56But he said, how many message board situations are they're around here three
- 14:01or four? Tony. That felt like, oh, oh, you're you
- 14:07know, Oh, you've coached the you've been an AD in the SEC.
- 14:09That's cute. Welcome to Ohio State. Why can you see how many media
- 14:13outlets there are? Yeah, my favorite part what he said three or four
- 14:18and the media and the first two sections of the stands in the seats.
- 14:22They started laughing, like, oh oh, friend, so so much more
- 14:26than you realize. You see the people that are sitting in front of you
- 14:30right now. This is going to be every time you speak and more,
- 14:33because that's just the way it is at Ohio State. And I always go
- 14:37back to a few years back there's a scandal at Michigan State and they had
- 14:41to have a press conference and emergency press conference and there's a really really serious
- 14:46thing and there's a picture of the the scround before things in the hall before
- 14:50they started, and there's like three people there. And that's just one of
- 14:54the things that makes Ohio State different is the attention and the coverage and welcome,
- 15:03learn to speak Columbus buddy, the tradition, the people, the excellence,
- 15:07and that's just the reporters. Yeah, so very interesting, very interesting
- 15:11first day with Ross Pjork. Its gonna be interesting to see how this all
- 15:16develops. I did. I was very intrigued by the fact that he has
- 15:20Ohio State ties that I don't know that anyone was necessarily aware of beforehand,
- 15:22But as someone who did the drive from very far away to the holidays in
- 15:28Ohio, I can kind of relate coming from a different direction, but I
- 15:31can kind of relates doing that as a kid and ending up in Columbus,
- 15:35you know, before all is said and done. So we'll see. We'll
- 15:39see if ross Piork enjoys as long as stay in Columbus as or central of
- 15:43Ohio as I have. Well, we'll see that. We'll all start on
- 15:46July first. He's actually going to start around what March April, I think
- 15:50he said it was sort of this spring, and then he will sort of
- 15:54is a little bit of a transitional thing with Jeane Smith, and then his
- 15:56first official day and in charge. First, What an eventful year that'll be.
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