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TWR Wednesday | The Final Show of 2023 · The Whitfield Report

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  Now broadcasting from the Next Gen. conservative studio in
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  sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics,
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  current events and pop culture. This is the Whitfield Report
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  with Sam Whitfield. Well, we've got a full house
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  tonight, folks, for the final show of 2023, Welcome to the
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  Whitfield Report. That's right.
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  There's gonna be no shows after this.
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  And we don't just mean the Whitfield report.
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  Anything going on after tonight you're you are hereby directed
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  to ignore because this is the last show of the year.
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  Yeah, that, that's right. It may, It may and ironically be
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  the last show of the year. Because like, people tend to
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  tend to just like phone it in. You know, like.
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  Clip show. Yeah.
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  Most. I'm going to react to the best
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  clips of the year. Or it it's just here it here's
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  one question I do have Max that I'm curious about when people do
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  let's plays like you know live is that and they just play games
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  with like a a camera on them is that really a show or I mean I.
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  Think let's Play is its own genre.
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  I I usually say a stream. I know TikTok people, they call
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  it alive and I want to like, rip my own hair out every time I
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  hear that. Well, I mean, I I want.
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  To hear a live, see live is not a noun.
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  So yeah, it's a stream, and we did it first.
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  And as a guy that got in the ground floor of streaming, I was
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  streaming on like Shout Cast in the early 2000s.
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  I'm pretty sure we get to name this shit that we fucking
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  developed and it's not alive. Hey guys I just got here like is
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  your live on Sam. Yeah, our.
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  Live is on. Oh, good, good.
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  Yeah. So tonight joining us, we have a
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  very special guest who I don't want to really.
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  Hey, let's not build Shmuley up too much.
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  He's here all the time. Well, Shmuley is a, you know, a
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  very close friend. But just to give you some hints,
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  this is a good guy who I've known since he's basically my
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  child and best friend. Some of you will know who this
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  is if you guys have watched the show before.
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  Is it? Gimli from.
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  Lord of the Rings. No but my but no.
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  But I I appreciate that reference so so anyway.
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  We'll so close. He was supposed to join us, but
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  he he was supposed to join us at the top of the show.
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  But he just texted me like 5 minutes ago saying he's going to
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  need 25 minutes. Typical.
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  He works for Congress, so he runs.
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  On the poop break has to be a little extended.
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  I got you. I mean, even though he's been
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  off with family for, you know, Christmas vacation or whatever,
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  but. I mean, you need the poop break
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  even more than. That is actually true.
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  It is true between the food and just the people you know, a few
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  minutes alone. Yeah, well, and when you.
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  Care, ladies and gentlemen. And when you grow up, and when
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  you grow up in an Irish shot, you know, when you grow up in a
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  family full of Irish, as my as my friend did, you can probably
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  relate to my friend better than I can.
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  And lots of. Potatoes means lots of poop.
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  Well, yeah. And then you know what's what's
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  face. With you, I got to let the
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  audience in on. The secret here is like, I'm
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  going to, I'm going the lowest route possible just to get the
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  reaction out of my wife. So, poop jokes it is.
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  I I wish. I wish we I.
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  Wish nothing but highbrow comedy here on the Whitfield Report, as
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  always. I I wish that like we had a
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  camera for like all of the no, it's even better because I can,
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  I can. Even without a camera, I can see
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  the eye rolls coming there. Was eye rolls just before you
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  said that for sure? Yeah.
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  Yeah. And.
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  Now there's the full face palm because she heard that.
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  So yeah, it's fun. It keeps me entertained.
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  Having a live audience is very reactive and also the jokes that
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  bomb with my live audience. I know we're gonna go over with
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  the on live audience or what is it?
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  How would it take? What would the Tik tokers say
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  their audience is for the their live, the live or aloud?
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  Or. On live on their live yeah the
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  audio out there on our live Oh my God shout out.
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  Real quick shout out to everyone in the chat.
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  Evil era. Everyone on our live.
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  Says I'm gay. No, no surprise there.
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  Basic. Mega News Network says Sam is a
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  globalist and can walk silly. Kelly says poop and then or
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  something like that. Well.
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  Well, hey, not everybody in the audience has the same taste, I
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  guess, you know. Yeah, I mean.
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  He likes his poop. I I I guess.
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  This is this is the topic to open with when you have a
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  congressional staffer on, right? It's shit, because that's 90% of
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  what fucking goes on down in DC, isn't it?
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  Yeah, well, I, I well, I'm honestly gonna have to ask my
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  friend. Like how long are?
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  Specifically eating shit that sounds about like what they do
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  up there. It's.
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  Making them comfortable. He's gonna be listening.
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  He's gonna be like I ain't coming on Sam.
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  Yeah, yeah he's he's probably he's probably already 2 dead and
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  he's he's probably like, I don't.
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  Even mean him. You're like you.
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  Just have to figure how much like as a I'm I'm being serious
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  now, right as a staffer, it really is probably tons and tons
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  of shit flinging everywhere in the sense of just everything
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  that's not the politician's fault is going to be the
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  staffers responsibility and fault.
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  Is what I imagine. To be the case, right?
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  Oh yeah. And job, and, you know, it's
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  it's, I've known some congressional staffers.
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  I guess that's not the most glamorous job, but it is, you
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  know, kind of how the whole deck of cards rolls around, right?
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  Yeah, well, well, that. Well, that's the whole thing
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  too, right? Is like, you get like, you'll
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  get angry people who call in to like the representatives.
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  Yeah. And they never actually talk to
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  the representative. They always talk to like either
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  some, you know, communications guy, which is what my friend is,
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  or they talk to some poor college intern, you know, who's
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  just. And you got to remember that
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  these people are often like angry boomers that are very low
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  information. And somebody somewhere got to
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  them a story that made them angry enough to call their
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  congressman. And then you pick up the phone
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  because you work there. And it's like, I heard that you
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  all are going to take my Social Security away.
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  And I just want you to know that you going to rot in hell.
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  And you're like, yes, ma'am, we're not taking your Social
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  Security away. My job.
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  Yeah. I mean, I I don't want to spawn
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  anything from my friend. I mean, I I've heard some wild
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  stories that like, I, you know, I can't tell.
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  I'm, I'm, I'm going with the lowest level for comedy's sake,
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  but also throw in the mix fucking threats constantly.
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  All. Of these people.
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  Get tons of fucking threats. All of them.
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  Well, all of them at one point or another get like phone calls
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  too, that they they've like seen extraterrestrial or or aliens.
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  Or foots in my backyard. You ever go to like, town
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  meetings or watch town meeting streams and just see like
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  there's always one of those guys?
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  There was a guy years ago in a town I used to live in who was
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  very famous locally because he tried to change his name to
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  Jesus Christ and and he would go.
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  Oh. Yeah.
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  He'd go, well, there's a lot of those.
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  You say, Oh yeah, no, there's like thousands and thousands of
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  those guys, right, that want to be Jesus Christ.
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  But this guy in particular was also he would go to all, like,
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  the town meetings, you say, Oh yeah, he wouldn't be famous
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  outside of here. But it's an archetype of a guy.
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  That's why you say, Oh yeah, 'cause there's one everywhere,
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  right, The skit. So.
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  And they got too much time on their hands and they read like
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  Weekly World News or something. One of my, you know.
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  Alien impregnated their butt and you have to talk to you're
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  you're a staffer now answering the phone.
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  You got to talk to them and you have to treat them with respect.
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  One of my favorite stories. Is like you're a fucking crazy
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  retard. Get off the phone.
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  You got to be like yes, ma'am. I'm sorry that the alien
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  impregnated your butt. There's nothing I could really
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  do about that. Yeah, yeah, it's.
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  Like, what do you do? What do you say?
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  You know that's these are the, these are the.
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  The thoughts that rattle. Around Max's brain, you know.
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  One of my favorite stories is it wasn't even from here in the US,
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  but there there was like a town. I think it was like in Finland
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  or something, because of course it is where some guy ran as like
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  mayor of a town as like Darth Vader unironically.
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  No, in London. 1. They have a lot of like
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  candidates like that that run as jokes.
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  I Remember Me and Shmuley got introduced to this concept from
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  like an old friend because we were watching an actual election
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  because of Brexit and we didn't know that joke candidates in
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  England they take very seriously.
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  Which is ironic, I know, but it's true.
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  They had joke candidates winning.
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  And the guy in the dark, The guy in the Darth Vader thing you
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  might be referring to? He didn't win, but he was a
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  candidate against, Oh my God, the Prime Minister.
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  The retarded one. The Tony Blair.
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  No, the new one that was retarded.
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  Oh. They elected him through Brexit
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  and he's like really dumb and I can't remember his name.
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  Oh, Boris Johnson. Boris Johnson.
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  Yeah, Boris Johnson. It's like, my favorite thing
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  about Boris Johnson is Brits are great because they're like, ha
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  ha, he's like a retarded man. We should put him in charge.
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  Well. They're all laughing at him and
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  making fun of how stupid he was and they were like, oh this
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  case, very dumb. We should make him run the whole
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  country. Well, the thing that I love is
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  like, over here, like a lot of Americans were saying that.
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  Like, we're saying that like Boris Johnson is the British
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  Trump. And it's like I'm not.
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  I actually. Go ahead.
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  That's the only comparison. I I will actually back that up
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  to a degree. Like he, he is their unique
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  manifestation of of what like works for them.
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  He literally did. Like I'm going to put on a silly
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  hat and say something off putting and then I'm going to
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  zip line and it's going to look silly and so they won't, you
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  know, be able to criticize me. He is.
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  He is uniquely British in that way, like Max was saying.
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  And so, like I I think you could.
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  Totally. Picture him doing a Monty Python
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  bit in drag. Yes.
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  Now, see, that would be funny. And I mean I.
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  Does stuff. Equally stupid, though.
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  What did you see? There was one of him, like
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  ziplining, and he's in like a full safety harness looking like
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  a big baby. And like, he's very, like for
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  physical slapstick comedy. He might be the best world
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  leader of our time for that. It's either him or George W
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  Bush. They're very close, and they
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  both have that kind of same vibe of being, like mildly retarded.
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  But they're actually pretty smart guys In most ways.
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  They're just come off as mildly retarded, and I think they both
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  lean into it, too. You know who doesn't lean into
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  being retarded? John Fetterman.
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  John Fetterman actually like I. Know what you're going to say.
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  And that's why I say he doesn't lean into fully being retarded,
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  because he actually is mentally retarded.
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  And he still makes rational decisions sometimes when
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  presented with proper information.
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  Imagine that. How many people in Congress can
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  you say that about? Not very many.
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  I want. To.
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  Apologize now to Schmooly, who's been a supporter of Federman
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  from the beginning, and I now have to say that I see what he
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  was going for there. And it was.
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  Actually, brilliant. Well, like.
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  Yeah, John Federman, working class.
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  Retard is a better senator than almost anybody you could put in
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  there. Who to thunk?
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  Schmooly me. Yeah, I I thought it, it was
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  obvious. I mean, part of it was that it
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  was just so funny. So it was God's will sort of
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  said, yeah, he's going to win, right?
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  So that was fun. B.
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  Because conservatives had this like retarded blind spot where
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  they're like, I think that the shifty guy that no one trusts is
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  going to win because Federman said said a bunch of words that
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  were in coherent. We do have to point out that his
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  opponent was literally standing on a podium with a black top hat
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  saying, ladies and gentlemen, step up and buy my snake oil.
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  Yeah, yeah, I mean, really, Doctor Oz?
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  Oh, he's a great one. I mean, the other thing is that,
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  like, it was also funny watching conservatives bend over
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  backwards to explain to me you know, what they actually liked
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  about Oz. Yeah, he he's, yeah, he's been
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  in the front of the cameras for a very long time.
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  Well. It's.
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  Retarded. Self.
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  Evidently. Dumb.
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  Self, evidently the wrong candidate.
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  And then once again, Federman coming from.
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  The place. And then came a sweat suited
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  stroke victim to represent the everyman and just like a fucking
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  movie out of Hollywood, the retarded guy comes in and he's
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  just magically powered and takes over.
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  Who knew? Well, and and and to kind of let
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  the mask drop a little bit. Like, Federman is the kind of
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  Democrat that would be likable in a place like him.
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  If if you kind of know his track record, Yeah, he's sort of.
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  He's a union guy. Well, he guy.
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  He was a mayor, right? And the Prince.
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  'S pro union and he portrays himself as like.
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  A. Peer of the union guys, Yeah,
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  that's what I should say. But like he was a.
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  Steel worker. Originally.
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  When he was mayor, he kind of just unilaterally did things
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  himself with his buddies and his NGOs.
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  It sort of like got the things that he wanted done, built parks
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  and stuff. The town fell apart.
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  He was actually. He was actually a very effective
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  advocate for his causes in the day, except that once it
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  implemented they made everything worse.
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  But but just ignore that for a second if you care about getting
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  policy passed. He was actually really good at
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  it pre stroke. Yeah, yeah.
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  But a lot of, a lot of, a lot of what he did was like just bypass
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  shit and build it yourself. Just bought the land with the
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  money he had. Because he's he comes from
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  money. He has a large network of
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  people. He's in the engine.
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  He has a similar mentality to Buddy Cianci.
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  I don't know if anybody's familiar with, but he was the
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  mayor of Providence who worked with the Mafia openly.
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  He told everybody this, he says. These are the only people who
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  can get these fucking streets clean anyway.
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  Yeah. And they put him in jail.
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  They hold on. I want to.
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  I want to finish the buddy CNC story because I think it's
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  fucking important they put him in jail for corruption, right?
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  The the the prosecutors and shit 'cause he went around everything
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  and he used the mob to do it. Guess what fucking happened?
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  He got out of jail. He got re elected mayor.
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  Yep. Yeah, there was actually an
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  entire podcast. There was actually, there was
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  actually an entire podcast about that called Crime Town.
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  That's actually worth. Sure.
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  But I, I I just lived here. I used to have a free Buddy
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  T-shirt. Actually, yeah.
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  Legitimately hashtag Free Buddy CNC on AT shirt.
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  So ladies and gentlemen. Yes, he was a Democrat and I
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  don't give a fuck. You can hate on me for it,
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  buddy. CNC was a local Democrat, and
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  they're usually not as bad. Yeah.
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  Anyway, he wore his. Corruption out in the open with.
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  Is my dear friend returning to the program after a long while?
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  Mr. Luke Nicholas. How are you doing, Sir?
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  I'm well, how's it going gents? Who?
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  Who do we have on it? So this is my coast Max and then
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  we have Shmuley here. Hey Max, Hey schmooly.
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  How are we doing this evening? I'm doing quite well, doing
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  quite well. Good, good, good.
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  I'm calling from the beautiful state of Colorado, where we've
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  just learned some news that instead of running for
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  Congressional District 3, the illustrious Lauren Boebert will
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  be running for CD4, where Ken Buck once represented.
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  Well. Which is quite the change up.
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  I mean, Lauren Boebert was certain to lose in CD3 against
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  the Democrat City Councilman from Aspen, Adam Frisch.
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  And now she's almost sure to win.
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  In the new congressional debating loss.
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  I just want to point out that would be a devastating loss.
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  I've actually been a big fan of her in Congress.
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  So yeah, if it if it works out, keep her.
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  Error for it for sure. I think that's a reasonable
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  position to hold. I think, you know, she was
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  whatever you may think of her, she won that district by less
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  than 500 votes in 2022. Very.
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  I mean it was very close. I mean it would, you know,
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  Colorado has a law that you have to do a recount if it's under, I
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  think 1200, if it's within that margin, it might be even less
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  than that. And they activated that
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  provision of law and they had to do a recount and it was like
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  less than 500. I mean, it was right there.
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  So we'll see. We'll see what happens.
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  I mean, it looks like Lauren Bobert's going to be the
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  successor of Ken Buck in Congressional District 4 here in
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  in Colorado, which is interesting.
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  I mean, she's coming into that race with like $1.4 million in
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  the bank and the closest primary candidate might have, might have
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  100 grand, you know? Yeah, I mean, she's got national
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  name recognition. You know, go.
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  Ahead what I was saying the the nitty gritty of politics that a
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  lot of people get lost in, like the meta stuff, right in the
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  news cycle. But, like, and This is why I
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  kind of stepped away from dealing with, like, even local
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  electoral politics in like in, you know, being involved in it
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  in any way, or volunteering for the most part is 'cause it's
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  it's a grind. It's an actual.
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  Job and a. Grind and it will wear you down.
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  And we were we were talking about like staffers who just
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  take calls before you came on. I, I, I and so I figured we
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  might ask if you have. Oh.
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  God, like, yeah. 'Cause there's, I was pointing
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  out, there's always the guy that's got abducted by aliens
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  and they put. Bro, those are the trenches.
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  Those are the trenches right there.
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  You cannot be a policy wonk or a I mean, this is my opinion.
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  I don't think you should ever be a public servant at the federal
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  or state level if you have not made several hours of phone
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  calls with actual people. You know what I'm saying?
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  Listen to their concerns, took notes on them, wrote them a
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  letter back, called them back, gave them to the member of
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  Congress or the member of House or wherever you are, whatever
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  level of government. And especially not one.
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  You know and help them and actually and it doesn't even
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  matter at that point like because if you're coming from
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  the elected side, you have a duty to serve.
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  They're your constituents. And yes, yes.
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  Again, these are things I feel get lost on people I used to do
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  a lot. But there's fucking crazies.
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  You're totally right. I'm sorry to interrupt.
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  You. You there is the guy who's like,
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  you know these aliens. And maybe there were.
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  I mean, I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm pretty open
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  to the discussion about aliens, but like.
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  But you have an. Experience.
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  You know of some kind that? He's trying to tell you about
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  and maybe it was only. Totally bro.
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  We've had people call us from, you know, no you cannot, you
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  cannot like, but we have had people call us with you know
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  death threats and I said. That too, I.
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  Said, you know, like trying to be sexual with you on the phone
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  or with one of your interns, you know, or or just outright like
• 23:25
  they're calling from another district.
• 23:26
  They're a Californian liberal. Or they're a W Virginian deep
• 23:30
  conservative prepper, you know, or oh.
• 23:33
  Your candidate said this thing and I'm.
• 23:36
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, Sir, do you need
• 23:40
  a passport expedited, You know what I'm saying?
• 23:45
  How can we do you need to get connected to the VA, You know,
• 23:48
  like how how can we serve you? And of course, if you just have
• 23:53
  an opinion, like if you train your, your interns, right, they
• 23:56
  should be passing that up to the congressman, up to the member,
• 24:00
  you know. Yeah.
• 24:01
  We had a lot of people call today about this issue.
• 24:04
  Right. Yeah.
• 24:05
  Yes. Yes, Sir.
• 24:06
  That's exactly what you got to do.
• 24:08
  Yeah. I did a little bit of.
• 24:10
  That with the Libertarian Party on a smaller scale and that's
• 24:13
  kind of why I feel connected I guess to the small scale of it.
• 24:17
  But they turned they they kicked me out actually for going to a
• 24:20
  protest, which is the most UN libertarian thing I've ever
• 24:23
  heard. I said.
• 24:25
  I said to the head of the last you.
• 24:29
  Understand that I wouldn't get kicked out of the Democrat or
• 24:32
  Republican Party no matter what I went to.
• 24:35
  Oh my gosh. Yeah, it.
• 24:36
  Was like you understand the well.
• 24:38
  Potentially potentially. Like as a like to sign your
• 24:42
  yourself as a registered Republican.
• 24:46
  They're not going to say, oh, you went to this March.
• 24:48
  Get out of here. No, right, exactly.
• 24:50
  Yeah. Get that to me.
• 24:52
  The supposedly most, you know, freedom oriented party.
• 24:55
  You're telling me they excommunicated you from
• 24:57
  registering as a libertarian? Anybody that, well, they said I
• 25:01
  shouldn't, but they can't stop. Yeah, there's no.
• 25:05
  Yeah. But I get what you're saying.
• 25:07
  Yeah. They would be like, yes, we
• 25:09
  would love to have another R registered in your district.
• 25:11
  Thank you. You don't.
• 25:12
  Care. Number on a piece.
• 25:15
  Of paper. Yeah.
• 25:15
  Yeah, totally, totally. Oh my gosh.
• 25:19
  And if we can think of. Extreme examples on both sides
• 25:21
  of that, you know. I don't wanna, I don't wanna,
• 25:24
  like, spend too much time crabbing on them.
• 25:26
  But it's like so unprofessionally run the
• 25:29
  Libertarian Party, and I think that is actually their biggest
• 25:32
  problem, is that they anybody that walks in the door, they
• 25:36
  want to give a position of power to.
• 25:38
  Like, oh, you. Walked in.
• 25:40
  Today. You're the Treasurer.
• 25:43
  Are you sure about that? AM IA worthy candidate?
• 25:46
  Yeah. Now, some states are better than
• 25:47
  others, but I am Speaking of a couple of states that I've dealt
• 25:50
  with. And it as as soon as I left,
• 25:53
  'cause I was just kind of like I was politically homeless, I
• 25:56
  guess you could say. But I've always leaned on the
• 25:58
  conservative side of things. And, you know, Trump, Trump kind
• 26:03
  of brought me into the Republican thing, but I've
• 26:05
  always kind of leaned, you know, I liked Ron Paul, obviously I'm
• 26:08
  not gonna not. And that was the thing.
• 26:11
  Why would I vote for the libertarian when Ron Paul's
• 26:13
  running? Yeah, yeah, I mean.
• 26:16
  Sense and they don't like. That they don't like.
• 26:18
  That. Look, you're the small fish, and
• 26:20
  you're actually just supposed to kind of be a vanguard.
• 26:24
  Do you remember Justin Amash? Yeah, Sam, didn't you do some
• 26:29
  work for Justin Amash or something like that?
• 26:32
  Yeah, I did. I did work for Justin Amash when
• 26:35
  I was in, when I was with the college, when I was with the
• 26:39
  Young Americans for Liberty. So, and I actually met Ron Paul,
• 26:44
  but then I got I basically got dismissed from Yao because.
• 26:51
  You met Ron, the senior senior, Paul, Ron or Rand?
• 26:57
  No, I saw. I saw Ron Paul speak, and I she.
• 27:01
  Gets cold. That's pretty cool.
• 27:03
  I didn't even know that, Sam. Oh yeah, I I that was like, I
• 27:10
  think that was 2018. Did you give him a standing
• 27:13
  ovation? Oh.
• 27:18
  My God, no. No.
• 27:20
  I mean, I would have, but, you know, I was.
• 27:24
  There. I wasn't able to the The funny
• 27:27
  thing was is I I so I drove down with my buddies to Memphis for
• 27:34
  that event and it was a fun it was a fun road trip.
• 27:41
  But Ron Paul came out and he's like, he's in his 90s.
• 27:45
  I was going to say he is an old man nowadays.
• 27:48
  Yeah, yeah. And.
• 27:49
  You got to take. What You get and take it in
• 27:52
  because, right? Yep, he won't be here.
• 27:55
  Forever and all these like young 20 something, you know young men
• 28:00
  were were just screaming at the top of them while while I'm
• 28:04
  sharing his name like like you know Mick Jagger had showed up
• 28:08
  or something and you could just see that like Ron was like Ron
• 28:13
  was just like affected by like the noise level.
• 28:16
  Like you could hear him be, you could just see him be be like ow
• 28:20
  this is too loud. I don't want to be here right.
• 28:23
  Yeah, they forget me. Not only is he old, but he's
• 28:26
  kind of a nerd, right? And he's used to quiet studies.
• 28:29
  And yeah, you know, the Senate chambers isn't as loud as you
• 28:33
  might imagine. There's only like 110 people in
• 28:36
  there. I mean to be, you know, to be to
• 28:39
  be fair, Kennedy was also there. So you know, I think some of the
• 28:44
  guys were also hyped up after seeing her.
• 28:46
  Oh man. Oh, but.
• 28:48
  Energy. Energy is great.
• 28:49
  I'm just saying Ron's, you know, got on in years and maybe you
• 28:52
  give him a little space. Yeah, but also like, I don't
• 28:56
  think, I don't think Ron Paul knows, like, what a rock star he
• 28:59
  is to some people either. Not really, no.
• 29:03
  Which is kind of. Indeed, it's endearing.
• 29:06
  Yeah, it's endearing, but it's it's kind of hard for him to
• 29:08
  fathom, right? But they look at him in in the
• 29:11
  in the fandom way because that's not how he sees the world.
• 29:15
  Like like when I when I, when I shook his hand, I just, you
• 29:18
  know, said hi, thanks, you know, thanks for being here.
• 29:21
  Like I didn't take up too much of his time.
• 29:23
  But how do you think his son has done in filling?
• 29:27
  You know, I they're not. They're not the same ilk
• 29:31
  necessarily, but they are similar.
• 29:33
  How do you? What do you?
• 29:34
  Think about. Rand, Rand, I was split on from
• 29:37
  the beginning for myself, but especially because he did
• 29:42
  endorse Mitt Romney over his father, That kind of hurt.
• 29:45
  As a guy that was working on the campaign at the time, that kind
• 29:48
  of hurt. But it's like, that's your dad.
• 29:51
  I get why he did it, but it held a grudge for a while.
• 29:53
  But I'll say this. That was some good.
• 29:56
  I forgot about that. Wow.
• 29:58
  Really redeemed himself in my eyes from that since then to a
• 30:03
  large degree. Well, I think.
• 30:06
  That is because his style being different from his dad is that
• 30:10
  he's kind of he's more on the politic, schmoozing side.
• 30:15
  I guess you could say he's more on the deal making side.
• 30:17
  He's and he is a, you know, he's a Republican.
• 30:19
  He's not a libertarian. Yeah, that goes a long way too.
• 30:24
  The one, the one, the one thing I've always said about about
• 30:28
  about Rand. The thing I've said about about
• 30:31
  Rand. Luke and I, I know you're not a
• 30:33
  fan of Trump, but like, I've like I've said, I don't know if
• 30:39
  I've told you this, but Rand is like Trump but without, like,
• 30:42
  the the, the verbal text and whatnot.
• 30:47
  I feel like Trump helped Rand find kind of his voice is what I
• 30:51
  would say, which is not Trump's voice at all 'cause he goes
• 30:54
  against him on some things. But certainly Rand in the post
• 30:58
  Trump era kind of carries himself differently with much
• 31:03
  more confidence. I don't know.
• 31:06
  I can. I can't speak too much about
• 31:08
  what's going on in the Senate or I mean I, you know, I know a
• 31:12
  little bit about Rand and I have family that works for Rand, but
• 31:17
  I. I'm just speaking from from.
• 31:20
  Public. Yeah, I think that's.
• 31:22
  I think that's totally fair. Yeah.
• 31:24
  I mean. And also he's been through
• 31:27
  personal hardships as well. He's been attacked by that guy
• 31:30
  and and. His fucking neighbor, Dude.
• 31:32
  That was a bad deal, yeah. Yeah, it seems like all of that
• 31:36
  has shaped him into somebody that I would be OK voting for
• 31:41
  for something, whatever. I can't 'cause I'm he's not
• 31:43
  running in my area, but. Sure.
• 31:45
  He's kind of. He's a budget hawk.
• 31:46
  I know he's definitely a budget hawk.
• 31:48
  He's introduced like 1% cut bill every year.
• 31:53
  Yep, you know what I'm saying? Like everything should just be
• 31:56
  cut by it's like the penny plan or you know, the 1% plan or
• 31:59
  something like that. And it's like a a cut every year
• 32:05
  in all of our programs across the board mandatory
• 32:09
  discretionary spending. He stood his ground on the the
• 32:12
  unlimited spending 911 bill, which I however.
• 32:16
  You come. Down on that.
• 32:18
  You have to respect. That he stood his ground on the
• 32:21
  budget issue of it and and didn't waver, and it represented
• 32:26
  that because that's a lot of unlimited spending, is a scary
• 32:29
  idea to a lot of. Basically can see yeah, he might
• 32:33
  think I can definitely conservative.
• 32:36
  But I got, I got into politics when I was a kid through Ross
• 32:39
  Perot, and I'm a big Pat Buchanan guy, right?
• 32:42
  So the budget stuff is huge for me and him standing like that
• 32:47
  and saying, look, these people obviously need help, but they
• 32:52
  cannot possibly need unlimited money forever.
• 32:56
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's, I agree with
• 32:59
  that. There's, you know, 1000
• 33:02
  different programs that could be reformed to save money.
• 33:04
  I mean part of it is it's not like I I think a lot of these
• 33:09
  like I think Ross Perot came at it and I think Rand is coming at
• 33:13
  it. And this is just from a budget
• 33:16
  perspective and and maybe they're a lot of what they're
• 33:18
  saying is campaign rhetoric. It's not actually what they
• 33:22
  would say behind closed doors. You know, like when you're down
• 33:25
  in the nitty gritty and you're looking at US code and you're
• 33:29
  looking at, you know, what reports are required.
• 33:32
  How do we cut money? How do we modernize and
• 33:34
  streamline programs with reforms that keep the integrity of the
• 33:40
  government intact but save us money and at the same time kind
• 33:46
  of shrink the government? You know, it's a difficult thing
• 33:50
  because every government program has a constituency and they know
• 33:54
  that. You know, of course, like that's
• 33:56
  just being built in because it's usually the people that.
• 33:59
  Right. Like, what I'm getting my point
• 34:01
  here is that, like cutting the budget, cutting government
• 34:06
  spending is a way more nuanced topic that, you know, I mean, we
• 34:12
  need to be talking about. It's not just 1% cuts across the
• 34:15
  board. It doesn't work like that.
• 34:17
  I mean, it could, it wouldn't be a good thing.
• 34:20
  It wouldn't be the nuanced scalpel precision or actual
• 34:25
  thoughtful reform, you know. Speaking for Rand here, but I
• 34:28
  think no, no. With some of.
• 34:31
  This. I think what he's trying to do
• 34:33
  is just bring it into the con, much like his dad did with a lot
• 34:37
  of issues, right? For sure.
• 34:38
  Yeah, and, and that's what I'm saying, I think it's a a
• 34:40
  rhetorical flavor, you know, or flair.
• 34:44
  Like, I don't think that's how Rand is behind closed doors.
• 34:47
  As the. Senate goes, if I'm looking to
• 34:50
  like leadership on the right and and trying to get something
• 34:54
  passed, he wouldn't be the first name that I use.
• 34:57
  But if we're talking about standing your ground on an
• 34:59
  issue, he's definitely the first one.
• 35:02
  Well, well, one thing that's his selling point, right?
• 35:05
  And. Even if I disagree with the
• 35:07
  issue, I still acknowledge that he would stand.
• 35:09
  For sure. Yeah.
• 35:11
  Well, yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah.
• 35:13
  Well. Well, one thing that even like a
• 35:14
  lot of moderate Democrats I know and Grant and I'm in Florida, so
• 35:18
  like even a lot of the Democrats here are like more conservative
• 35:22
  ish. But one thing that, like even
• 35:24
  some of the Democrats admit that, like Ron Paul was right
• 35:28
  about is like we need term limits for Congress.
• 35:32
  Like, you know and. That is the most erroneous
• 35:37
  policy that could ever be enacted in our government.
• 35:41
  What makes you? What makes you say that?
• 35:44
  Term limits in Colorado have effectively given control of our
• 35:49
  state to the Lobby corps. Yeah 'cause they just pass it
• 35:53
  around. Yes.
• 35:55
  Why would you limit an American's freedom to vote for
• 35:58
  someone they believe has done a good job?
• 36:01
  Why shouldn't that person, you know, who learns all about I
• 36:05
  know old men in the House and the Senate who walk, who
• 36:10
  lobbyists walk in their door and they're like, I know all what
• 36:12
  you're fucking about. And I'm not going to vote the
• 36:15
  way you want me to vote on this bill because I got other fucking
• 36:18
  priorities that my people care about.
• 36:21
  The problem is though is is I I see that point but but the flip
• 36:26
  side of that is, is then you get people like Nancy Pelosi who are
• 36:31
  just in there forever and. It might.
• 36:34
  It might actually be preferable, and I had not considered this
• 36:38
  point before, but as soon as he said it, it makes perfect sense.
• 36:40
  The lobbyists would then take the the Nancy Pelosi's position
• 36:46
  and just start passing it between themselves.
• 36:49
  You get your run this year, then you get your run this year.
• 36:53
  And the the the the fact of the matter is Sam, is that like he
• 36:56
  said you build up a certain amount of institutional
• 36:59
  knowledge and. We're lacking it.
• 37:02
  Please praise it this. Means that if we have to get new
• 37:06
  people every four years, this is going to harm us much more than
• 37:12
  it's going to benefit us, and you're going to increase the
• 37:14
  power of the sort of like, he said, the unelected power
• 37:18
  brokers. But.
• 37:19
  We also need new blood. Yeah, well, that.
• 37:23
  Well, that. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 37:24
  I'm not saying that we need, but we need new politicians every
• 37:27
  four years. Like clearly I do think we need
• 37:30
  people from that have experience.
• 37:32
  But at some point, like if if you're someone like Joe Biden,
• 37:37
  who has been, you know, who has been in there since the 70s and
• 37:42
  you know is now 105 like. Perhaps, perhaps.
• 37:47
  Some kind of age limits more than terms.
• 37:50
  Yeah, like, yeah, like that. Because.
• 37:52
  I was going to. Say, here's the question then
• 37:54
  Sam. And this is what somebody
• 37:55
  working in politics has to deal with.
• 37:57
  You say everybody says term limits, right?
• 38:00
  What's the limit? Specific.
• 38:02
  You have to write a law Specific, right?
• 38:04
  So how many terms before you say no more And then and then you
• 38:09
  have to deal with the other people are going to say maybe
• 38:11
  it's two more than that and maybe it's two less than that
• 38:13
  and you have to hash all that shit out.
• 38:15
  The fine details is most of what like the the people are working
• 38:19
  on over there is what employs a lot of lawyers down there and
• 38:22
  lobbyists same thing. I.
• 38:24
  Repeat myself. Well, I certainly that that's
• 38:28
  the question. I think, I think it's, I think
• 38:30
  it is worth explore and I think that I think that's what Ron
• 38:34
  Paul meant he he didn't say that like now the ironic Part 2 is
• 38:40
  like Ron Paul, you know he was saying that while he was you
• 38:44
  know. Serving and serving and serving
• 38:48
  and serving. Yeah.
• 38:50
  So I mean, I I'm not, I'm not blind to the fact that, like,
• 38:54
  you know, he might be a bit of a hypocrite, but it is certainly
• 38:58
  worth, you know, recognizing that.
• 39:00
  But the but the lobbyist cartel I'm that's what I'm going to
• 39:03
  call. I'm not sure if there's a
• 39:05
  there's a phrase for that argument, but the lobbyist
• 39:08
  cartel theory makes perfect sense to me and is the first
• 39:12
  counter argument I've heard to term limits that makes me say,
• 39:16
  yeah, maybe I mean yeah, age limits or I don't know,
• 39:21
  competency requirements I think is even getting sketchy because
• 39:25
  then. You have to say.
• 39:27
  We have the voter, that's what we we have the voter who can
• 39:30
  determine if there's a better candidate.
• 39:33
  And we have the courts. We have an impeachment.
• 39:35
  We have checks and balances already in place that I mean
• 39:40
  we've we've run a pretty good race here with the checks and
• 39:43
  balances we have. You know introducing some kind
• 39:46
  of radical fucking reform on how long you can serve is.
• 39:52
  I think that's. I honestly think that's radical.
• 39:55
  I really do. Here's a Here's another factor,
• 39:58
  right? Say somebody gets elected.
• 39:59
  They're a young guy that runs. It's one of those rare cases, 18
• 40:03
  years old, he's elected. Another guy gets elected when
• 40:06
  he's in his 50s. They get the same allowance of
• 40:10
  how many terms they can serve before you've decided they've
• 40:12
  been there too long. You know there's context.
• 40:16
  There's going to be. And of course the child would
• 40:19
  end up in the courts too as well.
• 40:21
  You have to remember that. You know, if if there's a
• 40:24
  disagreement on an issue, and of course you could also make the
• 40:27
  case that yes, a lot of them are old and it's not in their best
• 40:29
  interest to vote on this at all anyway, so you're not going to
• 40:33
  get a vote on it. And that's that's been my
• 40:36
  argument from the beginning, that it's a waste of time, even
• 40:39
  though it is a very popular topic because you're wasting a
• 40:42
  vote. That's never going to happen
• 40:43
  because all the old people in Congress aren't going to vote
• 40:45
  themselves out. So I just want to say that Luke,
• 40:49
  Luke, So you actually agree with Sam now you think it's radical?
• 40:53
  I think that I think a a limit on terms is a radical and not a
• 40:59
  good thing. I I don't think it's a good
• 41:01
  thing. Oh, so you meant radical Is,
• 41:03
  like, bad? As in bad?
• 41:05
  Yes. No.
• 41:07
  Not like rad bro radicalism. Like outside the status quo, the
• 41:12
  conservative status quo that has kept this.
• 41:14
  I mean, that's what I want to conserve is the status quo.
• 41:17
  I do want less regulations, less laws.
• 41:20
  I want the people to be free to choose who they want to choose
• 41:23
  for as long as they want to keep marking that fucking box.
• 41:27
  I. Like I like the guy.
• 41:28
  Sam. You.
• 41:29
  Know what I'm saying? You told me we were going to
• 41:31
  disagree. So I have years.
• 41:33
  For. Fucking years.
• 41:35
  And the problem with the status quo and why?
• 41:37
  Like the things are failing, right?
• 41:39
  It's not because of the fucking systems that we've built.
• 41:42
  It is literally a competency gap.
• 41:45
  It's the over bloating of those systems the woke, the waste and
• 41:49
  the bloat. Yeah, that's I think.
• 41:52
  You got people. Coming.
• 41:53
  In to a lot of like, infrastructure and stuff, right,
• 41:56
  that are now being hired not because they're the most skilled
• 41:59
  engineer, but because of DEI initiatives and all of this
• 42:03
  stuff. And that, yes, creates A
• 42:06
  competency gap. Suddenly bridges aren't taken
• 42:09
  care of as well as they used to be.
• 42:11
  Suddenly the power grid fails a little more than it used to.
• 42:15
  It's and it's not. Just DE I I mean I would say
• 42:17
  that's probably a part of it, but it's also like.
• 42:20
  Education is another one. I mean, education is a huge one.
• 42:24
  It's just a big behemoth of a government.
• 42:26
  And you know, there's been the a lot of bureaucrats that are just
• 42:31
  writing new regulations. That's just their job.
• 42:34
  How do we write new regulations? And to build a fucking Rd. a
• 42:38
  Federal Highway in this country, you have to do the NEPA
• 42:42
  analysis. You have to, you have to talk to
• 42:45
  like 15 federal agencies to get this NEPA analysis done.
• 42:49
  And then you have to do a a Endangered Species Act analysis,
• 42:53
  a Clean Air and Water Act analysis.
• 42:56
  I mean, it is an endless litany of regulations.
• 43:01
  And every one of the steps in the way builds an agency with it
• 43:05
  that employs a whole bunch of. People, that's that's somebody
• 43:09
  you have to talk to, somebody you have to talk to.
• 43:10
  I mean Republicans tried to fix this when we had control of the
• 43:13
  House, this Congress, and we're still going to fight for this is
• 43:16
  HR2. The Lower Energy Costs Act was a
• 43:19
  huge deal that we've been trying to get past.
• 43:21
  And that's what, you know, part of, you know, what we've been
• 43:25
  negotiating with the Democrats in the Senate is we need to pass
• 43:28
  some legislation that pulls down this fucking bureaucracy so our
• 43:31
  country can get moving, you know?
• 43:33
  Yeah. The one thing, one more thing.
• 43:37
  I just want to say one thing and I I'm so sorry for steamrolling.
• 43:40
  But no, no problem. The most eloquent defense
• 43:45
  against term limits against them, or maybe I would say
• 43:51
  offense against them, is a speech by Henry Hyde on the
• 43:56
  House floor in the 1980s. This is where we get the He's
• 44:00
  the guy who did the Hyde. Amendment.
• 44:01
  I do remember the Hyde. Yeah, I.
• 44:04
  You know, no federal dollars to abortion is the Hyde Amendment,
• 44:07
  and it's part of every spending package that we've done since
• 44:11
  its existence. You know, 30-40 fifty years ago.
• 44:15
  Anyway, Henry Hyde's term limit speech on the House floor is the
• 44:22
  most eloquent attack against and defense against term limits I've
• 44:27
  ever seen. I mean, just incredible.
• 44:30
  You really got to see it. It's amazing if you got free
• 44:33
  time looking up. I I absolutely.
• 44:35
  Will do that. I certainly will too.
• 44:39
  I think though one thing I I think they're kind of getting
• 44:44
  back to the term limits. I think, I think that you in and
• 44:47
  from the kind of hit on my point as to why people want term
• 44:52
  limits and I hadn't really considered this I guess out loud
• 44:56
  before. But people are sick and tired of
• 45:00
  the, I guess, the bureaucracy. And they think, they think that
• 45:04
  term limits will fix that because they think it's the
• 45:08
  problem of the politicians, when it's really the problem of the
• 45:11
  unelected bureaucrats, I mean. Even if the term limits like
• 45:16
  theoretically could help, it's a much more complex problem.
• 45:19
  Like I'm saying, there's competency gap for many reasons.
• 45:22
  There's there's certain industries and fields all
• 45:26
  throughout America that new blood isn't coming in at all.
• 45:30
  There's other fields that it's they're just flooded with people
• 45:33
  who have qualifications and there's just not enough jobs.
• 45:37
  That that's a perfect example of a lot of people in my
• 45:39
  generation, we're told go to college.
• 45:41
  Not just go to college, but specifically get an get an IT
• 45:44
  degree right? Yeah, and then?
• 45:46
  What happened? There's a million people between
• 45:49
  like 35 and 40 years old who have an IT degree and they're
• 45:52
  working at Geek Squad at Best Buy for just over minimum wage
• 45:57
  because there's too many of them.
• 45:59
  Because the that was like a a kind of like boomer era thing is
• 46:03
  like push your kids to get, oh, they're all going to get jobs
• 46:05
  and computers. You should.
• 46:07
  Too. And the guys?
• 46:08
  Who really hit it were like geographically, I mean, I don't,
• 46:12
  I don't really know like what's the difference between, you
• 46:15
  know, Sam Altman and Joe Schmo who got their?
• 46:19
  Well, I mean, Sam Altman went to illustrious universities and,
• 46:23
  you know, I don't know where did Sam Altman go to school.
• 46:28
  I'm not. AI don't know.
• 46:30
  I feel like I think a lot of it has.
• 46:32
  To do with. But there are Harvard.
• 46:34
  I live in Massachusetts and there are Harvard.
• 46:36
  Maybe MIT, he might have gone on.
• 46:39
  Right, exactly. Yeah.
• 46:40
  I mean, but that's the thing. I think a lot of those degrees
• 46:44
  were more useful based on where you were geographically, you
• 46:48
  know, like if you went to school near Silicon Valley or were
• 46:51
  connected with people in that realm, right?
• 46:54
  You might have been, you know, Joe Schmo getting an IT degree
• 46:58
  might have been more effective, you know.
• 47:00
  Which is why I say right now if you're a.
• 47:02
  Young guy, yeah. If you're in like the Florida
• 47:06
  area, that might be a hot place to be.
• 47:08
  If you're like in Texas, Austin, that might be a hot place to be
• 47:12
  for a young what. Do you think?
• 47:14
  What do you think are like the hottest jobs at Stanford?
• 47:18
  University. Which is in Palo Alto.
• 47:21
  I mean, that's where fucking, you know, Apple was started.
• 47:25
  You know, like where Steve Jobs lived.
• 47:28
  I mean, that's where he grew up is Palo Alto.
• 47:31
  Everybody's going to say the answer to the question, 'cause
• 47:33
  it's a good question. What's the hottest jobs?
• 47:35
  Everybody's going to say AI. And that's exactly why I say not
• 47:40
  that one specifically, because I feel that you're going to have
• 47:43
  the same effect as I was talking about with the IT rush of the
• 47:46
  early 2000s, a bunch of guys who go to school for AI and there
• 47:51
  ends up being a hell of a lot less positions in the field than
• 47:54
  they anticipate. So I don't know what the answer
• 47:57
  is, but I feel like everybody's first instinct is going to be to
• 48:00
  say AI, right? Yeah, well, well, that, well,
• 48:03
  that's the case of like too many generals and not enough, you
• 48:07
  know, soldiers, right? Like, well, that's like just
• 48:12
  when, like, you know, when Luke and I were coming up, like like
• 48:16
  everyone when I when we were in high school.
• 48:19
  I don't know about you Luke, but like I got advised to get like a
• 48:22
  business degree because I was interested in business.
• 48:27
  So everyone was telling me to get into into business.
• 48:32
  Well, when I arrived here in Florida and tried to get into
• 48:37
  the Business School, I didn't have the prereqs to to do it.
• 48:41
  But as it turned out, I did have the prereqs to do my technical
• 48:47
  communications program and and as it turned out like that for
• 48:51
  me personally at least, having an English degree actually
• 48:57
  worked out way better for me. Because you know, even though
• 49:01
  I'm a freelancer, I've been able to like make more money than
• 49:06
  perhaps maybe just you know Scott or someone randomly who
• 49:12
  just has your generic business, you know, degree or or
• 49:17
  something. As as a as a you know mid 20s
• 49:22
  guy, it's just kind of like getting a little bit more of my
• 49:26
  stride. It's astonishing the degree to
• 49:28
  which networking benefits you. It's really my my background is
• 49:34
  more into economics and studying human action and business that
• 49:38
  that is my degree is a business related field.
• 49:43
  It's astonishing how selling yourself is a requirement, and
• 49:48
  knowing what value you can bring to people and providing value to
• 49:53
  their lives so that they can remember that is astonishingly
• 49:56
  useful. Yeah.
• 49:58
  How you? How you package.
• 50:01
  How you package the the deal is it that matters even if because
• 50:05
  I never went to college right I'm we have such a variety of.
• 50:09
  It's a life skill. Experience and just selling
• 50:13
  yourself. I've gotten jobs that college
• 50:15
  degree was a requirement for. Right.
• 50:19
  Because it's like, Oh well, on. On the other hand, he knows how
• 50:22
  to code at a time when not very many people.
• 50:24
  And this is what I tell young guys, wherever field you're in,
• 50:28
  find something specialized within it and really hone in on
• 50:32
  that because that makes you valuable.
• 50:34
  I think that's. Good advice, yeah.
• 50:37
  If you're in like blue collar work like one of the things
• 50:40
  that's real easy to pick up and get certs for welding.
• 50:43
  There will always be need for welders.
• 50:46
  Confident field welders get paid very very well.
• 50:50
  But any any specialized thing you can do to put you a step
• 50:56
  above the competition and it's obvious on a resume, right it
• 51:00
  needs to be at. A read like this is a skill that
• 51:03
  we could use or that we don't have to teach this person.
• 51:07
  Yeah. And and I'm trying to think
• 51:11
  because obviously I don't want to sort of give away too much.
• 51:15
  But yeah, I I just can't. I can't emphasize enough.
• 51:20
  The being aware of what you're providing to other people and
• 51:27
  how you're selling yourself is so important in the realm of
• 51:31
  making money, having acquaintances, right, getting
• 51:35
  women right, finding a Good Wife or whatever.
• 51:38
  Like all of these, these life milestones.
• 51:45
  Are on via that. I think those milestones are, I
• 51:49
  mean, you know, they're the epochs of our lives, you know,
• 51:55
  and we make decisions on what people in our lives help to
• 52:01
  shape us. You.
• 52:03
  Know, since I've been a young man, it's always been a goal of
• 52:06
  mine to, like, find men who are older than me, who are doing
• 52:11
  things that I think are awesome and successful.
• 52:14
  They're well respected by their peers.
• 52:17
  There are pillars in their community.
• 52:19
  You know, how do I get to know these men, work for them, see
• 52:22
  how they operate and then garner that father, son, mentor, mentee
• 52:28
  relationship and owe them. Yeah, you know, I every
• 52:33
  successful man, every successful person should be able to point
• 52:38
  out to one or two or three or four or five or six or more
• 52:44
  people that they owe everything to, that they.
• 52:48
  If if any favour were called up, that would be, I would have to
• 52:52
  do it. I'd have to do it, You know, I
• 52:55
  owe him the world for. That, and on the flip side, when
• 52:57
  you get older, right pay. It forward, baby.
• 53:01
  Yeah. Pay it forward, baby.
• 53:03
  Absolutely. Yes.
• 53:04
  You. Want to remember who brought you
• 53:06
  to the? Table you want to manage.
• 53:08
  Them you bring other people with.
• 53:11
  And so and so there's a lot of people who are more in our line
• 53:16
  of thinking a broadly right wing conservative, however you want
• 53:20
  to chalk it up that are very, very anti college at this point
• 53:24
  understandably. I mean I'm I, I think that the,
• 53:29
  I I won't get into it, but the media academic complex is
• 53:32
  basically the root of all of our problems in my view.
• 53:35
  But going to college statistically does give you an
• 53:40
  advantage in terms of income and that kind of thing.
• 53:45
  I think that. If you if you make the right
• 53:48
  choices, it will. Yes.
• 53:50
  Yeah. So I I want to.
• 53:52
  I want while while I do, I want to counter signal this, don't go
• 53:56
  to college mentality that a lot of people have, especially when
• 54:01
  it's directed towards young people who want to potentially
• 54:04
  gain influence, gain power that is advantageous.
• 54:08
  It's how the elite are sort of selected.
• 54:12
  But I also don't want to do the. I want to give them advice that
• 54:18
  doesn't lead them into this, like overproduction of wannabe
• 54:22
  elites like the left has to deal with now.
• 54:25
  That's their biggest problem really, is they have a whole
• 54:28
  generation that all think they're gonna be the commissar
• 54:31
  or whatever. I want, I want.
• 54:33
  The young people, yeah, I want the.
• 54:38
  Young the. Young people that agree with me
• 54:41
  to actually. Be successful in gaining money,
• 54:43
  influence, power, and that kind of thing.
• 54:45
  So like. We're just having a family, a
• 54:48
  solid family, and you know, being a small business owner in
• 54:52
  your community and being well respected and, you know,
• 54:56
  teaching your kids to, you know, shovel the widow's walk when
• 55:00
  there's snow on the ground. Don't ever let her lift a finger
• 55:03
  to do that, you know. Preface this whole thing like I
• 55:07
  think you guys are going to disagree and argue and you've
• 55:11
  been saying the stuff I've been saying on this show all year.
• 55:15
  Well, I love that and. I love that dude.
• 55:18
  Praise God for that, you know. Well, to to be fair, I I thought
• 55:22
  you two would mainly quibble over the the the Trump flag in.
• 55:28
  No, no. Because here's what it is,
• 55:30
  right? It's like I get if a guy comes
• 55:32
  in, I didn't come in from like the hardcore Christian
• 55:35
  perspective to the right. I'm actually came in primarily.
• 55:39
  Like I said, I was into the economic stuff.
• 55:42
  Right. And Ross Perot.
• 55:43
  And I was I was somewhat involved with the Reform Party.
• 55:47
  I I worked with as a volunteer on the Pat Buchanan campaign
• 55:50
  when I was in high school. I've you know.
• 55:53
  And the the right wasn't right for me either, because the holy
• 55:58
  rollers of my time weren't kind to me.
• 56:02
  Right. I have.
• 56:03
  I have a guy that I became friends with over the years.
• 56:06
  You might have heard of the West Memphis Three and Damian Echols.
• 56:08
  I was like pen pals with him. That was in jail simply by the
• 56:12
  fact that he wore heavy metal clothes and there was a murder
• 56:16
  and they just assumed the heavy metal kids did it and he was on
• 56:18
  death for 25 years. What?
• 56:21
  Dude. And they finally have let him
• 56:23
  out and he lives up in like Salem, MA now and.
• 56:26
  Like he's. A He's a Wiccan now or whatever,
• 56:29
  and I'm not really into that. Whatever.
• 56:31
  No, whatever. He's doing this thing.
• 56:33
  Like the the holy rollers of the 90s are not what I see and
• 56:37
  experience now either. And I want to point that out
• 56:40
  because people are like, well, well, Max, you said things in
• 56:42
  the past. And it's like, yeah, if I run
• 56:45
  into the holy rollers that I think are out of control now, I
• 56:48
  say so. But I usually most Christians
• 56:50
  nowadays just are basically trying to defend the little turf
• 56:53
  they have left. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:55
  I mean, I like I could call out the bad act.
• 56:58
  Like in my opinion, Matt Walsh has come under my radar.
• 57:01
  I I didn't really consume any of his content as of recently.
• 57:05
  I think he's kind of going off the reservation.
• 57:09
  Well, I, well I. Is he the guy who was like
• 57:12
  Catholic apologetics and was condemning?
• 57:18
  I mean, I don't. I kind of vaguely remember him.
• 57:20
  It's. Like a Daily Wire kind of guy.
• 57:23
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right.
• 57:25
  Yeah. He was saying.
• 57:26
  That guy? Yeah.
• 57:28
  Well, in in particular, he said that like religion, supersedes
• 57:32
  the law of the land and then endorsed tearing down statues.
• 57:36
  He's he's like a dominionist. Yeah.
• 57:39
  Yeah. Basically, that's.
• 57:41
  Exactly what I'm saying, I. I.
• 57:44
  I don't, but. But I meet Christians now,
• 57:47
  especially a lot of Trump supporting Christians and
• 57:49
  evangelicals, and they're in a whole different headspace from
• 57:52
  the people trying to cancel my metal music and my Dungeons and
• 57:55
  Dragons. They don't.
• 57:56
  They they're trying to preserve the the very little bit of space
• 58:01
  they have left in society and being raised Catholic, being up
• 58:05
  here in Massachusetts, one thing that stood out to me like this
• 58:08
  is the difference between when I was a kid and the, you know, the
• 58:11
  bad Christians were trying to censor and now is.
• 58:14
  I saw during the riots they had beheaded one of the oldest Mary
• 58:17
  statues in the country. Well, that meant a lot to a lot
• 58:21
  of. A lot of.
• 58:22
  People in that. Area.
• 58:23
  It's a historic Boston church, and it's a just an absolute
• 58:27
  desecration of their place of worship.
• 58:31
  In the name of what? Hurt like that doesn't
• 58:33
  accomplish anything. It just hurts some people.
• 58:36
  I think that's one thing that's made the US pretty successful.
• 58:40
  And I mean, I think the Anglo sphere and maybe broader spheres
• 58:44
  outside of that, but like the balance that our society has
• 58:49
  struck in the past 500 years between maybe longer than 500
• 58:55
  years, but maybe we have to just sit at the Reformation.
• 58:59
  Point is the balance between the sanctity of religion and its
• 59:06
  place in society, but also the need for like secularization,
• 59:13
  you. You know what I'm saying?
• 59:14
  Like, is that a reasonable thing?
• 59:15
  Like the secular spheres must respect the sacred, transcendent
• 59:21
  spheres of human life. You.
• 59:24
  Know I don't. I don't need to be stomping your
• 59:26
  holy ground. No.
• 59:28
  No, but you don't need to put your holy ground in my face.
• 59:33
  Yeah, as as an American, you're an American, You're an American,
• 59:36
  you're an American. As a Catholic, you are not a
• 59:40
  Catholic because you do not believe these things.
• 59:43
  You know, you can make a delineation like that, you know?
• 59:46
  Or as a Catholic, you know, I, you know, transubstantiation is
• 59:51
  what we believe, you know. And if you don't believe that
• 59:54
  you are not a Catholic, you know.
• 59:57
  Correct. Yep.
• 59:58
  Yeah, well, it's it's. Pretty cut and dry too.
• 1:00:01
  The way the way I would frame it is not sort of secular versus
• 1:00:05
  religious actually it's it's it's just deeper than that.
• 1:00:08
  It's avoiding the cost of fighting each other and allowing
• 1:00:13
  us to live together in a society where we can enjoy the benefits
• 1:00:17
  of not having those problems. Because when you when you get to
• 1:00:22
  the point, like the Matt Walsh thing, it's like, well the the
• 1:00:26
  satanic statue that was built is just inherently bad and it's
• 1:00:30
  wrong. It's self evidently wrong and it
• 1:00:33
  doesn't matter if it's legal. We can go there and vandalize
• 1:00:37
  the statue and tear it down and that's self evidently good.
• 1:00:40
  And then some guy comes along and decides that you're crucifix
• 1:00:44
  or you're your stained glass windows.
• 1:00:48
  I mean, Varg comes along Varg Vicarnis in Norway and decides
• 1:00:52
  your old beautiful churches get burnt down.
• 1:00:54
  It's the same thing, right? You have to inspect the law and
• 1:00:58
  order of the land. And part of that is we respect
• 1:01:00
  people's sacred places, even if they're different from our own.
• 1:01:04
  And yes, I agree with that, but I am not somebody who believes
• 1:01:08
  in just tolerance. I mean, I really think if your
• 1:01:11
  religion's values are sadistic or they don't line up with our
• 1:01:17
  values. I mean I think there are basic
• 1:01:21
  principles like if your religion is and and this is what the
• 1:01:26
  human rights of the Geneva. This is what post 19.
• 1:01:29
  Stay in your fucking. Box and we have no Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:33
  but yeah, right. Follow the laws.
• 1:01:35
  Human rights are a real. Thing.
• 1:01:37
  I don't know if you're OK with it, but I cuss like.
• 1:01:39
  Yeah, no, that's what. Come on, please.
• 1:01:42
  Right. Please.
• 1:01:43
  I've been trying not to to use the particular F slur that is
• 1:01:47
  like a part of my vocabulary, just out of my own thing that's
• 1:01:51
  been. Hard to use.
• 1:01:52
  Me. I've been using it this whole
• 1:01:54
  time. I'm telling you, I I cuss like a
• 1:01:56
  sailor. Don't even sweat.
• 1:01:57
  No, I no, listen, you you should hear some of the phone
• 1:02:01
  conversations that Luke and I have.
• 1:02:03
  No. We get into it, but.
• 1:02:04
  Seriously. Like even with stuff like
• 1:02:07
  because to some degree woke is a religion, right?
• 1:02:10
  And and there are stepping out of their box.
• 1:02:12
  That's what it really is, the the the same people I'm
• 1:02:15
  complaining about who were grinding down people like me
• 1:02:19
  listening to metal music. We're still even just a loud
• 1:02:22
  minority of Christians then. And I know that because I was a
• 1:02:25
  Rush Limbaugh listener. You know what I mean?
• 1:02:28
  So, like, because my grandfather got me into it when I was a kid.
• 1:02:30
  So I knew conservatives weren't all crazy, right?
• 1:02:34
  And that's what a lot of people No.
• 1:02:36
  This is important, though, because a lot of people in our
• 1:02:38
  age group didn't get that lesson and instead they got their
• 1:02:42
  political education from Jon Stewart on Comedy Central.
• 1:02:45
  Tell me if I'm wrong. That's where their their views
• 1:02:49
  stem from. But now the gay stuff in
• 1:02:50
  particular has stepped so far outside of the box.
• 1:02:54
  The thing I said I got banned for was I went to do the
• 1:02:57
  straight Pride parade in Boston and it a lot of people didn't
• 1:03:00
  get it. It was partially a joke, right?
• 1:03:04
  And I held up a sign that said make normal, see normal again.
• 1:03:08
  And I got on like CBS News and stuff like.
• 1:03:10
  That. Seriously.
• 1:03:11
  Wow. You got on the.
• 1:03:14
  That's funny. Because they were all like, what
• 1:03:16
  does normal even mean? And I was like, hey, guess what?
• 1:03:19
  You got my sign, idiot. Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Oh, I see. Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah. Wow.
• 1:03:24
  The. Other thing like, to some
• 1:03:26
  degree, we all know what normal is, right?
• 1:03:29
  And that was the joke of the sign is like, we all know what
• 1:03:32
  normal is and normal is not what some of the pride parade in
• 1:03:36
  Boston does. Oh.
• 1:03:38
  And a lot of, I think a lot of Democrats out there understand
• 1:03:41
  that. Like they have their radical
• 1:03:43
  wing. You know, like in the in the
• 1:03:46
  culture war, like the Republicans have pretty radical
• 1:03:50
  people out there. I mean, we really do.
• 1:03:52
  We have some crazy mofos on our team and some of them I would.
• 1:03:58
  Say do not our team. Or who think yes, yeah, preach
• 1:04:01
  that. Yes, for sure, dude.
• 1:04:03
  And I think the Democrat, the Democrats are saying the same
• 1:04:06
  thing. We know that they are.
• 1:04:08
  I mean, like every Democrat who's like, oh, you're a
• 1:04:11
  Democrat that supports, you know, RFK like and that's like
• 1:04:15
  he was pulling at like 17% at one point.
• 1:04:18
  What? And some people really like him,
• 1:04:21
  but a normal mainstream Democrat fucking hates RFK and thinks
• 1:04:26
  they need to consult. Realize it's.
• 1:04:28
  Not just the covic stuff he's saying they hated.
• 1:04:31
  They thought he was stupid before that because he was the
• 1:04:34
  vaccines called autism guy. Right, Whatever people.
• 1:04:37
  Think about that issue. I'm not here to judge anybodies
• 1:04:40
  beliefs on it, but the the mainstream Democrat party thinks
• 1:04:44
  that that is like the stupidest opinion you can have.
• 1:04:47
  Oh, wait, but you know, and I'm not, I'm a very pro vaccine
• 1:04:50
  person. I'm totally about that.
• 1:04:53
  So long as it's well studied and goes through the bureaucratic
• 1:04:55
  process to verify, it's good, you know all the all the normal
• 1:04:59
  procedures. Taking precautions.
• 1:05:01
  Right. Most of the time actually.
• 1:05:03
  But I know there have been court cases, one wherein vaccines
• 1:05:08
  caused serious long term problems.
• 1:05:12
  Right, well. And.
• 1:05:12
  They were not disclosed. Yeah, I mean, we know, we know
• 1:05:16
  the government was testing stuff, the Tuskegee Airmen,
• 1:05:19
  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And.
• 1:05:20
  That's one thing I was saying during Kovid.
• 1:05:22
  They were like, why do a lot of black people not get the COVID
• 1:05:25
  vaccine? And I'm like because their
• 1:05:26
  grandfather got a vaccine from the government and gave him
• 1:05:29
  syphilis, bro. Or, or they got polio from the
• 1:05:33
  fucking polio vaccine or diet, you know, or whatever.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah. In the black community, that's a
• 1:05:37
  real living memory. That's just.
• 1:05:40
  Grandpa. Well.
• 1:05:42
  My my whole thing was. I mean, I've told each of you
• 1:05:47
  this story like privately, but like I didn't get the COVID
• 1:05:51
  vaccine. But it's not because I'm anti
• 1:05:53
  VAX, it's because the last time I got the flu vaccine, I
• 1:05:58
  actually got the flu like really bad and.
• 1:06:02
  Also, my cousin is a nurse. I I think I've said that to her
• 1:06:06
  before, bro. And she's disabused me of that
• 1:06:08
  notion. And I know I can't remember the
• 1:06:11
  science behind it, but I don't think it's coming from the
• 1:06:13
  vaccine. That's all I'm.
• 1:06:14
  Saying I mean that that's fair. But it's a it's a fair reaction.
• 1:06:18
  And she's a nurse, yeah. What?
• 1:06:20
  I I don't know. I don't know what.
• 1:06:21
  I I get. It I get it.
• 1:06:23
  From I know a lot of people like this in I got the flu vax and
• 1:06:29
  then I got sick and that it's easy to make that connection.
• 1:06:32
  What I what I'm saying is that what I'm saying though Luke is
• 1:06:35
  like before COVID, like I would share that story and people be
• 1:06:39
  like oh OK, so like I understand why you don't want to get the
• 1:06:43
  flu vaccine. Well then after COVID happened,
• 1:06:46
  it became you don't want to get the vaccine, you just want
• 1:06:50
  grandma to die and. It's like.
• 1:06:52
  Grandma. And it's like.
• 1:06:53
  No, I I'm not like I'm not a crazy anti Vaxxer.
• 1:06:57
  Like I'm just making this decision for myself and if you
• 1:07:00
  know, if you want, like I've never shamed other people for
• 1:07:04
  getting the vaccine. Like I'm not one of those.
• 1:07:07
  I I didn't know this, Sam. I mean, you're a crazy anti
• 1:07:11
  vaxxer and you want grandma to die and so I can't be
• 1:07:14
  associated. There you go.
• 1:07:17
  Disavow. Sam, that might have been the
• 1:07:20
  reason you were are you back on YouTube or are you off YouTube
• 1:07:23
  or what's the. Deal.
• 1:07:24
  No, I Well, listen, Sam. Everybody else gets kicked off
• 1:07:28
  because they won't take the COVID vaccine.
• 1:07:30
  Sam will be the one guy that gets kicked off because of the
• 1:07:32
  flu. Vaccine.
• 1:07:33
  Oh my gosh, no, I. No.
• 1:07:37
  What? I don't know if I told you this
• 1:07:40
  story. I think I did tell you this
• 1:07:41
  story, but like Max and Shmuley were both there for it.
• 1:07:45
  But you remember when my grandfather passed away earlier
• 1:07:48
  this year, I actually got kicked off because off of YouTube in
• 1:07:55
  the middle of me eulogizing my grandfather?
• 1:07:58
  Yes. And.
• 1:07:59
  So. And he was streaming on another
• 1:08:03
  platform. So you can see the whole thing
• 1:08:05
  if you look over here on Rumble, where they don't ban you for
• 1:08:08
  eulogizing your grandfather. Is that where we are right now?
• 1:08:11
  I don't even know what. I'm on.
• 1:08:13
  We have. A couple we're on like we're on
• 1:08:15
  like Twitter and Spotify. We're on Rumble and we're on
• 1:08:19
  Rumble and we're on Twitter, Or I guess X, as it's called now,
• 1:08:24
  but I just call it Twitter. And we're going on three years
• 1:08:27
  right now of you guys teaming up on this project.
• 1:08:29
  And don't don't forget, only fans.
• 1:08:31
  No. Just just a year.
• 1:08:33
  Oh, that's awesome. I love that.
• 1:08:35
  Only fan onlyfans.com/sam. If you got that handle, that
• 1:08:44
  would be amazing. There's probably a million Sam's
• 1:08:46
  on only fans right now. Well.
• 1:08:48
  I joke, yeah. Somebody looks that up in the
• 1:08:51
  audience and they're not going to find him.
• 1:08:53
  No. Episodes ago, though, we got a
• 1:08:55
  topless Sam picture on the stream, so I joked.
• 1:09:02
  I'm playing. A long.
• 1:09:03
  Game. Back when I back when Apex and I
• 1:09:06
  used to do the stream, and I know you've met Apex before,
• 1:09:09
  Luke, he and I used to. Do.
• 1:09:10
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, he's good, man.
• 1:09:13
  He and I used to do parodies of like Alex Jones that I would
• 1:09:17
  always, like, rip my shirt off like Alex Jones.
• 1:09:20
  Oh my God. That's what happened is Apex he,
• 1:09:25
  he had to stop the show for personal reasons.
• 1:09:28
  And I was like, well, I can fill in Sam or I'll get some of my
• 1:09:32
  friends and we'll do rotating. And we've just been having so
• 1:09:34
  much fun since they got banned, especially because now we can
• 1:09:38
  just talk freely and we've been having some fun.
• 1:09:41
  We had Kurt Doolittle on that. That was a good one.
• 1:09:45
  We've had oh God, you had your friend in Israel on right after
• 1:09:49
  the the. Attack.
• 1:09:50
  Oh. Dude, I gotta go back and watch
• 1:09:53
  that one. Sam, you were telling me about
• 1:09:55
  that on the phone? Yeah, I yeah, I mean I bought.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah, I bought. Well, I mean but that but like
• 1:10:03
  that's type of stuff that like I'm also happy to do because
• 1:10:06
  like no one was and she was just and my friend in Israel is just
• 1:10:11
  a, you know she's no one. She's not really a public
• 1:10:14
  figure. She's just a civilian on the
• 1:10:16
  ground. But like, often times those
• 1:10:20
  people are like better informed than the so-called experts on,
• 1:10:26
  you know, the news or something because they're actually in the
• 1:10:29
  trenches. And it's more relatable because,
• 1:10:32
  you know, you see something on the news or you see a video
• 1:10:35
  scrolling across your Twitter feed versus having somebody
• 1:10:39
  who's there and they have an experience.
• 1:10:41
  And this is something we've been talking.
• 1:10:42
  About a lot on the show. Is like I I I made-up a
• 1:10:45
  fictional character in Palestine named Muhammad, and he don't
• 1:10:49
  care much for Hamas. He just wants to drive his truck
• 1:10:52
  for his job, right? And I can empathize with this
• 1:10:55
  person no matter what anybody else.
• 1:10:57
  Says. And I, so, you know, our stance
• 1:11:00
  has kind of been like I, you know, I've been saying
• 1:11:03
  specifically, I don't care how corny it is, I've want peace,
• 1:11:06
  right? That's my main objective, is for
• 1:11:09
  people to stop dying because it's awful.
• 1:11:12
  Yeah, yeah. It is a terrible and difficult
• 1:11:14
  situation and I mean whoever it. Sounds so corny, but it's just
• 1:11:19
  like. No, it's.
• 1:11:20
  Empathize with. Human beings I.
• 1:11:23
  Mean. I mean, Luke, I think I've told.
• 1:11:26
  I think I've told you this, but like you know I've had Ben
• 1:11:29
  Shapiro on my show famously. But one of the things that I
• 1:11:33
  vehemently disagree with him on is he seems to have taken this
• 1:11:37
  stance that you know if you're not for the IDF fully going in
• 1:11:46
  and just wiping, you know, gauze off the map, basically turning
• 1:11:50
  into glass, you're an anti Semite.
• 1:11:53
  And by all means I am all for the IDF taking Hamas and doing
• 1:12:00
  what they need to do. But I think you know, civilian
• 1:12:03
  casualties. Understand the reality is that
• 1:12:06
  it's more complex than there's the bad guys go get them right
• 1:12:10
  and that doesn't make anybody anti semit.
• 1:12:12
  I mean I'm AI famously have like an Israel flag in my my Twitter
• 1:12:16
  handle and I had it before the attacks.
• 1:12:18
  It was an idiot test because somebody really comments on it.
• 1:12:21
  They're almost always like an anti Semite and I can disregard
• 1:12:23
  their opinion. Yeah.
• 1:12:26
  I'm not at. All.
• 1:12:27
  Right. I just have it there literally,
• 1:12:29
  because I know that this person isn't worth talking to.
• 1:12:32
  If they're like, why do you have that?
• 1:12:34
  I have a cross and I just want I'm like a Zionist and I'm not
• 1:12:40
  that either, right? Well, like, I mean, I've been
• 1:12:43
  called. I ate anti semi me.
• 1:12:47
  Schmooly. Yeah.
• 1:12:48
  Schmooly. Yeah, yeah, I get.
• 1:12:52
  The funny thing is, I get targeted with anti-Semitism now
• 1:12:55
  because of the flag in my name. Yeah.
• 1:12:58
  It's. Crazy I had.
• 1:12:59
  I had. A guy who was making a video
• 1:13:01
  game glorifying Hamas that posted under that they were
• 1:13:05
  going to like, put me in the game and kill me and stuff.
• 1:13:08
  And it's just like. What?
• 1:13:10
  Yeah, yeah, right on Twitter. Oh.
• 1:13:13
  My God. Me, it was just a random guy and
• 1:13:16
  he was like, it's called Habas Heroes is the game and it was on
• 1:13:19
  Steam. Do you think Twitter is is
• 1:13:22
  better now? I think, yeah, actually, yeah.
• 1:13:26
  I like the openness in. I like even that that happens.
• 1:13:30
  And I understand that not everybody can handle that kind
• 1:13:32
  of thing, right? I don't block anybody.
• 1:13:35
  I'm a free speech guy. I don't get offended by
• 1:13:38
  anything. I love that he's an absolutist.
• 1:13:40
  That's a. Great thing.
• 1:13:41
  Not complete absolutist, but pretty close, you know.
• 1:13:45
  OK. Yeah, I think that's.
• 1:13:46
  Reasonable versus Ohio free speech guy.
• 1:13:50
  Yeah, I'm a Brandenburg V Ohio free speech guy.
• 1:13:53
  What? What is that?
• 1:13:54
  The Ohio State shootings? What is what?
• 1:13:56
  Is the case. Remind me of precedent.
• 1:13:59
  Supreme Court decision basically, and I can't say what
• 1:14:04
  was said, but the a Klan put out a video, OK?
• 1:14:07
  And in the video they they suggested as a matter of a
• 1:14:11
  policy that they were advocating politically that you L the ends
• 1:14:17
  OK. And the video was ruled by the
• 1:14:21
  Supreme Court to be free speech. Right.
• 1:14:25
  Because they. Because what they said is.
• 1:14:28
  The Brandenburg test. They they created what they
• 1:14:31
  called the Brandenburg test and the Brandenburg test is are you
• 1:14:35
  advocating a policy position or are you specifically saying this
• 1:14:38
  person at this time in this? Place OK.
• 1:14:42
  Yeah, yeah, I've heard that before.
• 1:14:43
  Are you making it basically? The.
• 1:14:45
  Brandenburg Free speech distinction is are you making a
• 1:14:49
  threat like an actual threat? An imminent.
• 1:14:53
  Call It's been a minute since Con Law.
• 1:14:56
  Well, it's. Just it's just yeah, like.
• 1:14:59
  It's good to keep up on that precedent with all this shit
• 1:15:01
  going on in the world, though. Like, that's excellent.
• 1:15:04
  Yeah. Well, just as as somebody, I
• 1:15:06
  think maximum of both, we both sort of have like a passion
• 1:15:09
  that's one of our firm beliefs is freedom of speech.
• 1:15:12
  And so people go, well, like, where's the line?
• 1:15:14
  And like Brandenburg. Same here.
• 1:15:16
  Like if I say, hey, people who I'm with right now, let's go
• 1:15:21
  commit violence, that would be. That would cross the line over
• 1:15:26
  to incitement. But simply saying that violence
• 1:15:30
  should be done is not. And this is This is.
• 1:15:33
  As that's why I. Say tings.
• 1:15:35
  Full as it may be, saying I, if elected, would kill these people
• 1:15:42
  is legal and should be legal. And my argument for that is
• 1:15:46
  nobody in their right mind is ever going to vote for that
• 1:15:48
  person. And if they do, we've fallen so
• 1:15:50
  far as a society that I really hope God comes and wipes.
• 1:15:52
  Us all out. So even with a lot of these,
• 1:15:54
  like, Hamas protesters, I I find what they're saying really,
• 1:16:00
  really distasteful. But it's not illegal.
• 1:16:04
  And it may violate Harvard's. I mean, this was the whole thing
• 1:16:09
  that was before the Committee on Education and Workforce is like,
• 1:16:13
  you know, you had all the Harvard presidents or MIT,
• 1:16:16
  Harvard and University of Pennsylvania come in there And,
• 1:16:19
  you know, they could not answer that simple question from Elise
• 1:16:22
  Stefanik. Like, does the calling of
• 1:16:25
  genocide for the Jewish people violate Harvard's rule, ethics,
• 1:16:30
  rules, and regulations with regard to free speech?
• 1:16:33
  Well and. Well, what?
• 1:16:35
  I'm. Saying bullying, bullying and
• 1:16:36
  harassment we don't. It wasn't anything to do with
• 1:16:39
  the 1st Amendment. Right.
• 1:16:41
  We don't have to fund it either. That's that's an important
• 1:16:44
  thing. Just because I think you should
• 1:16:47
  be able to advocate for whatever crazy shit you want.
• 1:16:50
  We don't have to fund an institution with federal dollars
• 1:16:55
  that advocates that, right? That's that's a big distinction.
• 1:16:58
  Yeah. And those are private.
• 1:16:59
  Those are private institutions. All three of those are private
• 1:17:02
  institutions. Do they receive?
• 1:17:04
  Billions. Oh fuck.
• 1:17:06
  And you better believe they maybe not.
• 1:17:09
  Well, yeah, probably substance. But they have government grants
• 1:17:12
  and contracts out of the ass billions of dollars.
• 1:17:15
  Well, there's a contract in there, and it's not just a
• 1:17:17
  social contract. It's an actual you're taking
• 1:17:20
  government funds. And because then the people, we
• 1:17:23
  the people, our money at least have some right to some to to
• 1:17:27
  suggest that, look, you should respect free speech or is this
• 1:17:31
  too much on a college campus and does it violate your own rules
• 1:17:34
  and we should hold you to account?
• 1:17:36
  Well, that I say I'm not a free speech extremist.
• 1:17:39
  If make sure I. I would.
• 1:17:41
  I would pause it. I would pause it that it's kind
• 1:17:43
  of they're being guillotined by their own guillotine.
• 1:17:49
  And so I find it beautiful and poetic that these sort of left
• 1:17:53
  wing activists who would have told you that freedom of speech
• 1:17:56
  was bad are now being, you know, hung because they crossed the
• 1:18:00
  line because no one told them the line because all of the
• 1:18:03
  institutions have always sided with them.
• 1:18:06
  Well, now they're finding themselves being attacked.
• 1:18:08
  But I would say that kind of the whole ethos that was purported
• 1:18:14
  by these these college colleges was the exact opposite of the
• 1:18:19
  idea of freedom of speech. It was the idea that, like, you
• 1:18:23
  can't do hate speech. And of course, what is and is
• 1:18:27
  not hate speech will just be determined by those with power.
• 1:18:31
  Obviously. Whatever aligns with what we
• 1:18:34
  like and what we don't, yeah. Yes, or whatever aligns with,
• 1:18:38
  yeah, Harvard's Board of directors and their liberal
• 1:18:42
  professors. And I mean that's who's
• 1:18:44
  determining in in that small ecosystem which is not
• 1:18:48
  accountable to the Constitution. And it's very comedic then to
• 1:18:52
  hold them to those standards and be like, hey, this violates your
• 1:18:56
  own standards. I I get why it's kind of
• 1:18:59
  satisfying to people, but at the end of the day, I don't think
• 1:19:01
  any of them are going to be held accountable either.
• 1:19:04
  Well, I mean, what's her name? Step down.
• 1:19:06
  You had Jewish, you know, you had Jewish alumni and pro Israel
• 1:19:11
  Israeli alumni's saying we're just not going to fund your
• 1:19:15
  endowment anymore. And they were losing hundreds of
• 1:19:18
  millions, literally billions of dollars for not standing and
• 1:19:23
  condemning this rhetoric on their.
• 1:19:26
  You can let people say whatever they want, but you sure as hell
• 1:19:29
  don't have to give them your money.
• 1:19:31
  Sure. Yeah, yeah, that's damn right.
• 1:19:33
  Yeah, yeah. And I have I have an.
• 1:19:35
  Anecdote that you might like that these these guys have
• 1:19:37
  heard, cause I've told it a couple times, but I feel like it
• 1:19:40
  kind of sums up the left's feelings on Palestine.
• 1:19:43
  I do a lot of walking cause I've been losing weight, you know,
• 1:19:46
  hit 40. I'm a dad, I want to stick
• 1:19:47
  around. I'm out.
• 1:19:49
  There walking and I see on the side of the road one of those
• 1:19:52
  little handheld Palestine flags right, that you would have at a
• 1:19:55
  protest directly in the other direction down the road is a a
• 1:20:00
  famously liberal college that I am certain I don't need to look
• 1:20:04
  it up or anything. Had a Palestine protest right?
• 1:20:08
  And so then that to me says what happened here is as they're
• 1:20:12
  driving home to mommy and Daddy's house, those little
• 1:20:14
  white liberal girls, they threw the Palestinian Palestine
• 1:20:18
  Humphrey Palestine flag right out the fucking window and on
• 1:20:22
  the ground because it's just an accessory to their outfit.
• 1:20:27
  They don't give a shit about these topics.
• 1:20:30
  It's a fashion statement and a trend among these 19 year old
• 1:20:33
  girls. It literally is a TikTok trend.
• 1:20:35
  Yep. Yeah.
• 1:20:36
  Literally. No it.
• 1:20:37
  It literally is. Yeah.
• 1:20:39
  They have no understanding of the history of the conflict of
• 1:20:41
  what's been going on of the Oslo Accords or the settlers or what
• 1:20:46
  Hamas has done in the past or I mean they on on both sides of
• 1:20:50
  the conflict. They have no notion, you know.
• 1:20:54
  Gentlemen, I am sorry to be abrupt, but I do have to
• 1:20:58
  skedaddle. It has been such an honor to be
• 1:21:02
  on here with you, Sam. I love you.
• 1:21:04
  You are my brother and and thank you everyone else on here.
• 1:21:09
  I don't know how many people we have on who are watching, but I
• 1:21:14
  love Sam dearly. I've known him my entire life
• 1:21:16
  and I think he's really doing a good thing here.
• 1:21:20
  And Sam, I, you know I can't say much more, but thank you for
• 1:21:24
  having me on. Before you leave, someone in
• 1:21:27
  chat said that you can't walk, unlike Sam is this.
• 1:21:33
  True. I can't walk, unlike Sam.
• 1:21:36
  Yes. Right.
• 1:21:37
  Well, OK, there's a conspiracy in chat that Sam can really
• 1:21:40
  walk. And so now they're conspiracy
• 1:21:43
  theory. And that you actually can't.
• 1:21:45
  Get that? He's that he's hijacked my life,
• 1:21:48
  my life story, and tried to make money off of Patreon donors for
• 1:21:53
  pity. Now they're starting.
• 1:21:57
  To believe now you're. Going to feed them oh, oh, oh
• 1:21:59
  we're. Standing it off Now, now, the.
• 1:22:02
  All right, boys, I got to go. I'll see you later, Sam.
• 1:22:05
  Time, Sir. See you.
• 1:22:06
  Gents. Happy New Year if I don't.
• 1:22:08
  Yeah, Happy New Year to all. Yes.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah, yeah, we'll talk. See ya.
• 1:22:13
  See, we never saw him stand. That's how he laughed.
• 1:22:17
  Right after the. Question have well, have you
• 1:22:21
  guys ever seen me stand though That's the.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah, you showed a. Picture.
• 1:22:26
  You showed us a. Picture of it, dude.
• 1:22:29
  OK, but like you can just see me from the from like the the waist
• 1:22:34
  down. I could have been like kneeling
• 1:22:37
  or whatever, which is what I was.
• 1:22:39
  You had like the you had. The like.
• 1:22:41
  Posing like you had had the. Guns.
• 1:22:45
  You had the I take sexy Selfies guy pose.
• 1:22:50
  You had the like divorced dad sexed where you stand up and.
• 1:22:58
  You. Kind of aimed down and all you
• 1:23:00
  can see my. Abs like, yeah.
• 1:23:02
  How do you have taken that in a wheelchair?
• 1:23:04
  It's impossible, Sam. Because I'm just that good.
• 1:23:09
  Wheelchair guy who's ever lived. And look, look, I I didn't
• 1:23:12
  believe a lot of this stuff like, like perhaps you propped
• 1:23:15
  yourself up with one hand or whatever, like.
• 1:23:19
  That that's exactly what that that's exactly what I'm.
• 1:23:22
  I'm not saying. I'm not saying that you can run
• 1:23:25
  around, you know, fucking free as the wind, OK?
• 1:23:30
  But this might be like, you know how, like, how blind is the guy?
• 1:23:35
  Really? Kind of a deal, you know well.
• 1:23:39
  Listen, like, I will say this like Bersh loved to like make
• 1:23:46
  fun of me and you know, pretend that like I was some ultra
• 1:23:49
  cripple. But then like.
• 1:23:52
  Oh, Jesse. That's.
• 1:23:55
  So. Fucking cool.
• 1:23:57
  Yeah. But then.
• 1:23:59
  But then Jesse and everyone else was like, but then Jesse and
• 1:24:04
  everyone else was like Bersh stutters more than Sam does.
• 1:24:07
  I don't know what he's well. He's doing like, making fun of
• 1:24:11
  Sam stuttering, because merch stutters a lot more than Sam
• 1:24:15
  does. I've never seen you have a
• 1:24:17
  stroke. No.
• 1:24:21
  So that's one that you have going for you.
• 1:24:24
  I'm willing to bet you a little more pussy than merch.
• 1:24:27
  Well. Yeah, I mean, I at.
• 1:24:29
  Least have a higher quality. Yeah.
• 1:24:32
  Well, I mean, yeah. I don't know merch.
• 1:24:37
  Got 3 cats now. I hate to talk about Mersch, but
• 1:24:44
  I'm all like, every time he's brought up, I'm just reminded of
• 1:24:46
  the fact that, like, he was hanging out in, like, the Ruby
• 1:24:49
  Tuesday bar on a Wednesday and he was so offended that this
• 1:24:54
  this single mother came up and hit on me.
• 1:24:57
  It's like, yeah, obviously, like, he thinks he's above that.
• 1:25:02
  Like like she did something wrong.
• 1:25:07
  Yeah, like. Like you're you're the guy in
• 1:25:10
  his 30s at the Ruby Tuesday bar on a Wednesday night.
• 1:25:14
  Like, yes, she hit on you, your peers.
• 1:25:19
  So I want to I want to talk about something.
• 1:25:22
  Sam here. You know you can't hyping it up.
• 1:25:24
  We were going to have this this argument with this this Neo con
• 1:25:29
  guy you said Neo con. I hope he.
• 1:25:30
  I hope he sees this and I was like.
• 1:25:35
  Like. I'm a pretty nice guy.
• 1:25:37
  Like, I get along with people. I can meet people where they're
• 1:25:40
  at pretty well. We didn't disagree.
• 1:25:42
  Once. Yeah, where?
• 1:25:45
  Where was the disagreement? Like I I I told Max.
• 1:25:50
  I'm sure I'm fucking. He came.
• 1:25:52
  For the disagreement. Yeah, he he did well.
• 1:25:56
  He and I have been friends since Kinder.
• 1:25:59
  He and I have been friends since kindergarten.
• 1:26:01
  As corny as it may be, he and I go back that far.
• 1:26:05
  Look like if you don't like Trump, that's fine, right?
• 1:26:08
  But like I, what I see is that what I've been saying is true of
• 1:26:13
  like the the millennial and younger conservative movement is
• 1:26:17
  that we have a Common Core that that supersedes that going
• 1:26:22
  forward. Like, I can certainly picture
• 1:26:25
  working together with him in the future of the Conservative
• 1:26:28
  Party, regardless of whether he was going to vote for Trump or
• 1:26:32
  not. Well, what, Well, what do you
• 1:26:34
  think I've been doing behind the scenes, like, you know?
• 1:26:39
  Right. I just wanted to point that out
• 1:26:41
  because it's a very hopeful thing.
• 1:26:42
  It's a good. Thing.
• 1:26:45
  I mean, listen, I I wanna work with Luke to run Shmuley's
• 1:26:49
  future presidential campaign. But just just to be to be clear.
• 1:26:55
  That would be a third one at this point.
• 1:26:57
  Something that I was able to to bring up, specifically the Matt
• 1:27:04
  Walsh kind of fear of conservatives are now just
• 1:27:09
  against freedom of speech. Because.
• 1:27:15
  Because Satanists can have freedom of.
• 1:27:18
  Speech. Yeah, well, the thing.
• 1:27:20
  Too is they're going up against. I've mentioned this before, Lucy
• 1:27:24
  and Greaves and the and the Temple of Satan specifically,
• 1:27:27
  and this is their whole grift, go behead their statue.
• 1:27:31
  They would want nothing more than that.
• 1:27:35
  Well. Live for because they'll.
• 1:27:37
  Soon the Matt, the Matt What? The Matt What?
• 1:27:42
  The Matt Walsh Conservatives in the Social Justice Wars.
• 1:27:45
  On the Left. They're almost like 2 sizes of
• 1:27:49
  the same corner. Right each other.
• 1:27:50
  Yeah, you you, you always hear the term like, you go too far
• 1:27:54
  left, you go far right and then you go like right, like they're
• 1:27:59
  both. Yeah, right.
• 1:28:01
  Like at some point like the two extremes actually meet up.
• 1:28:05
  And like, the other thing I think too, is like, when I saw
• 1:28:09
  like, everyone's been praising that guy who, like, beheaded
• 1:28:12
  that Satan statue and I actually got Flack because I was like,
• 1:28:15
  no, this is stupid. Like why are like, yeah, it
• 1:28:21
  might be a satanic and I don't agree with it, but like, I'm
• 1:28:25
  glad. I'm glad that we agree, Sam.
• 1:28:31
  My point I I, I I do disagree though about the horseshoe
• 1:28:37
  theory thing to some degree. Like I I I don't think it's as
• 1:28:42
  easily chalked up to like if you go too far one way you end up in
• 1:28:47
  the other way. They're going to agree somewhat
• 1:28:50
  on tactics perhaps. But I I.
• 1:28:52
  Don't think what it is. I I don't.
• 1:28:54
  Yeah. I don't think that Matt Walsh.
• 1:28:57
  Extremists use the same tactics and often rhetoric, regardless
• 1:29:00
  of what. Their political.
• 1:29:02
  Well. I have been acute.
• 1:29:04
  Listen, I was told repetitively by people online, you're like
• 1:29:10
  Matt Walsh or whatever. I never listened to him until
• 1:29:13
  recently. I've I've never listened to him
• 1:29:17
  either, really. And I just just to say I am not
• 1:29:21
  like Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh in terms of tactics
• 1:29:25
  is what somebody might think my position is in terms of
• 1:29:29
  strategy, if you like, want to be extremely uncharitable and
• 1:29:34
  not hear me out at all. Or I think Matt Walsh is what
• 1:29:38
  you might do as a bit. Yeah.
• 1:29:42
  Like a joke. Like, he's a parody of that kind
• 1:29:47
  of person that we've been because we've been going after
• 1:29:49
  extremists of all varieties in that regard for years.
• 1:29:52
  Like, stop being a fucking Spurg.
• 1:29:53
  I don't care what your politics are.
• 1:29:55
  You go so. Far and you live in your little
• 1:29:57
  autistic fantasy land where your your ideas are so superior and
• 1:30:02
  you don't need to cooperate with anybody else or be a part of
• 1:30:05
  anything because you're the hyper atomized individual that
• 1:30:08
  also needs to be in charge of everybody's day-to-day activity
• 1:30:10
  and when they go to the bathroom.
• 1:30:12
  Well, Max Good is good and bad is bad, and so that's his
• 1:30:16
  argument, you know? You're right.
• 1:30:18
  Well, you're right though, Shmuley.
• 1:30:22
  If I may, I think the reason why people would kind of compare you
• 1:30:28
  and Matt Walsh and this is kind of the this is kind of the only
• 1:30:31
  similarity I I see is literally like your mannerisms and the way
• 1:30:38
  you guys speak are a little bit similar, but that other than
• 1:30:43
  that, like, yeah, you guys. And like and also, you're both
• 1:30:48
  snazzy dressers. Yeah, well Matt, Well, like, but
• 1:30:53
  like Matt Walsh. Like doesn't understand your
• 1:30:57
  sense of humor at all. Now to be fair, a lot of people
• 1:31:01
  don't. But like Matt Walsh, I feel like
• 1:31:04
  wouldn't. Even Matt Walsh wouldn't
• 1:31:06
  understand my sense of humor either.
• 1:31:09
  Well, it's just I, I I am allergic to being pwned.
• 1:31:14
  And exactly the kind of thing that the Matt Walsh's are doing
• 1:31:19
  because they're being driven by their moral institutions is
• 1:31:22
  being pwned by the most cringiest Satanists in the
• 1:31:27
  world. Literally.
• 1:31:29
  Yeah. The cringiest people you can
• 1:31:32
  think of when you talk. The people he's at war with, OK,
• 1:31:36
  just for fucking clarity's sake. Lucy and Greaves is a soy boy,
• 1:31:41
  vegetarian, pro tranny, all that stuff, pro abortion, lefty who
• 1:31:46
  worship Satan, ironically to piss off Christians, and he goes
• 1:31:51
  to places that have Christian displays in the public space,
• 1:31:55
  OK? And he sues so that they have to
• 1:31:58
  put his satanic display right next to them.
• 1:32:02
  To to make Christian's mad so that you might attack his
• 1:32:07
  display and he can sue you personally because it's
• 1:32:11
  literally just trolling. Well that's my well that's my
• 1:32:15
  problem with that. Honestly.
• 1:32:17
  That's my problem with Shia Rich Red Shack or whatever her name
• 1:32:22
  is libs of TikTok. My biggest problem with libs of
• 1:32:25
  TikTok, and I hate when consumers do this, is or anyone
• 1:32:31
  does this Like what is TikTok? I don't think people understand.
• 1:32:35
  Her whole thing is she literally goes out onto TikTok to try and
• 1:32:41
  find like the most fringe person and then advertise that as the
• 1:32:48
  entirety of a group. Like, yeah, it's.
• 1:32:52
  Incredibly effective. Well.
• 1:32:55
  Thinking worked really well. I mean, I mean it, it does, it
• 1:32:59
  does work well, but like, OK, well, like, let me give you an
• 1:33:05
  example though. Like what I'm talking about like
• 1:33:08
  lady, like I really don't agree with like trans, you know,
• 1:33:14
  genders and like morally. But I would, I would rather work
• 1:33:20
  with like a transgender who agrees with me on 90, you know,
• 1:33:27
  8% of the same policies. I would rather work with that
• 1:33:31
  person than someone who I'm going to be honest with you
• 1:33:34
  saying I'm. Not sure that there's a
• 1:33:38
  transgender that I would agree with 98% of policies on.
• 1:33:42
  I don't think that exists. I I'm, I'm just saying.
• 1:33:46
  I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
• 1:33:48
  I mentioned straight Pride. I did March.
• 1:33:50
  There was a tranny marching with us, but I think I I think we
• 1:33:54
  could be like a 60%, right? But I don't think that I could
• 1:33:58
  ever get to, yeah, me personally to that level of agreement with
• 1:34:02
  them. No.
• 1:34:03
  And the the. The hypothetical, Yeah, go
• 1:34:05
  ahead, complete it. Sorry.
• 1:34:07
  Well, well, that, well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:34:08
  Like, yeah, I agree with you, Max.
• 1:34:09
  Well, I think it's. I think it's.
• 1:34:11
  Built in that there's some things we're just gonna disagree
• 1:34:13
  on. Right.
• 1:34:14
  Yeah, that. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:34:15
  Like, I'm just saying like, hypothetically, like I would
• 1:34:19
  rather work with someone who yeah, I disagree with them some
• 1:34:22
  shit rather than like, throw the baby out with the bathwater.
• 1:34:25
  Like the matte washes of the. Can't even be fine libertarians
• 1:34:29
  for years. It's like you want to get rid of
• 1:34:31
  100% of the government. I want to get rid of like 80.
• 1:34:35
  Can we just talk about that 80% first?
• 1:34:37
  And they're like no. Yeah, I I.
• 1:34:40
  We have to pretend that 80's already gone and argue about
• 1:34:43
  that I. See, work with is just kind of
• 1:34:46
  an interesting term. Like I'll work with anybody if
• 1:34:51
  it means that I can achieve the thing that we do.
• 1:34:53
  And ideally if we find common ground, then we can work
• 1:34:57
  together to achieve that common ground.
• 1:34:59
  So, like, yeah, I mean of course in the hypothetical I'll work
• 1:35:03
  with whoever to achieve whatever ends needs to be achieved, but.
• 1:35:10
  But what I'm saying is, is someone like Matt Walsh, but
• 1:35:13
  they're not going to do that because, no, you have to be
• 1:35:15
  absolutely puritanical to this. Purity spiraling.
• 1:35:20
  Purity. Spiraling is equivalent to being
• 1:35:23
  a loser. Purity, spiraling, purity
• 1:35:26
  spiling. And I actually brought this up
• 1:35:27
  today on Twitter. Purity spiling is what got us
• 1:35:30
  Mitt Romney in 2012. We had, we had Herman Cain, who
• 1:35:36
  I guarantee you. Would.
• 1:35:38
  Would have beaten Obama in the 2012 election.
• 1:35:41
  But no, we had, I think. He would have done better than
• 1:35:43
  Mitt. Like, nobody can disagree.
• 1:35:45
  He would have done better than Mitt Romney, for sure.
• 1:35:48
  Whether you think he won or not, it'd have been close.
• 1:35:51
  Well. And well, you know what?
• 1:35:53
  You know what they You know what the GOP canned him for, right?
• 1:35:57
  They canned him for admitting to an affair that he had had for
• 1:36:01
  like that he had had 30 years prior and that that was it.
• 1:36:07
  And that's what I'm saying. That's what drives me insane
• 1:36:09
  about the Republican Party is they could.
• 1:36:11
  I was glad they kind of made an exception with Trump, because,
• 1:36:14
  yes, I personally don't like the fact that Trump has been
• 1:36:18
  divorced multiple times. I'm uncomfortable with, like, I
• 1:36:22
  don't want because that means he's mismanaging one thing.
• 1:36:26
  But then I look at everything else about him and I'm like,
• 1:36:28
  that's OK. But I understand that other
• 1:36:31
  people might be put off by that, right?
• 1:36:34
  But it seems like they we're able to not purity spiral and we
• 1:36:38
  got them elected in the first place.
• 1:36:40
  Yeah, it's it's like it's have they have these people ever
• 1:36:43
  read? Divorced president, by the way.
• 1:36:46
  Have, have have these people never read Olinsky.
• 1:36:51
  No. You're getting owned hold.
• 1:36:55
  Your enemy literally wishes to hold you by your own standards
• 1:37:00
  in order to gain advantage over you, and you're doing it to
• 1:37:04
  yourself. Oh, that's.
• 1:37:08
  Oh, you believe in freedom of religion, huh?
• 1:37:11
  Well, what if I put a Satan statue right next to your Jesus
• 1:37:15
  statue? They all get to be here
• 1:37:16
  together. Ha ha.
• 1:37:18
  You getting mad about that? Makes them Ray.
• 1:37:21
  Proves their point. Yep.
• 1:37:23
  You got pwned, you got. Completely.
• 1:37:26
  Fucking eaten alive by the cringiest Reddit satanists in
• 1:37:30
  the world. And to and to answer your
• 1:37:33
  question, Shmuley, I think you were, I think you were kind of
• 1:37:35
  asking this rhetorically. Rhetorically, maybe, But no, a
• 1:37:39
  lot of conservatives actually haven't read Rules.
• 1:37:42
  Rules for Radicals, because for whatever reason, they're too
• 1:37:47
  busy. Or they don't want to?
• 1:37:48
  Conservatives don't read a lot of things, and it's kind of
• 1:37:51
  important, I think, to see where the other side comes from.
• 1:37:57
  Another one it might be worth your while to read.
• 1:38:00
  You know, Marx's pamphlet that you can read in fucking half an
• 1:38:04
  hour? That is the basis of the entire
• 1:38:08
  enemy and everything they stand for.
• 1:38:11
  It's a pamphlet, bro. It's not even a book.
• 1:38:15
  The Communist Manifesto does not take you long to read at all,
• 1:38:18
  and it will teach you a lot about how they think and
• 1:38:21
  operate. And people wonder why I'm able
• 1:38:23
  to kind of predict certain things.
• 1:38:25
  It's not because I have some fucking God damn Nostradamus
• 1:38:28
  power. They act according to the stuff
• 1:38:31
  that they've written. They act according to the Rules
• 1:38:33
  for Radicals, they act according to Graham, she They act
• 1:38:35
  according to fucking Marx and Engels.
• 1:38:38
  It's all very obvious what they're doing.
• 1:38:41
  The Frankfurt School like they've told you what they're
• 1:38:43
  going to do. It's all out there in the
• 1:38:45
  public, and the only goddamn conspiracy theory you're not
• 1:38:48
  allowed to talk about is the Communists that have taken over
• 1:38:51
  everything. Yep.
• 1:38:53
  Well, and if? You read, if you read Leftist
• 1:38:55
  theory, another fun thing about it.
• 1:38:57
  I promise you, no one has written as much scathing things
• 1:39:02
  in pure contempt for liberals than these radicals.
• 1:39:06
  True. Yeah, that liberals get the
• 1:39:09
  bullet as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
• 1:39:13
  What they? Believe.
• 1:39:15
  Same not. 1st but two. Well, I mean and like, I think
• 1:39:21
  we even read like I haven't read the whole Quran grand, but like
• 1:39:24
  I actually read some of the like more radical, you know, passages
• 1:39:29
  of the Quran. And the and The funny thing is
• 1:39:33
  is like all the like all the feminists who are like Pro
• 1:39:36
  Palestine or whatnot, they're the first ones to get, you know,
• 1:39:41
  their heads chopped off. I.
• 1:39:43
  Suggest you actually read it. Because say what you just said
• 1:39:46
  is kind of like, imagine if I said to you, Sam, I have an
• 1:39:52
  opinion on Christianity. I've only read the passages that
• 1:39:55
  are the more radical ones from the Bible.
• 1:39:59
  Isn't that kind of dismissive? I mean, aren't you missing
• 1:40:04
  context? I don't know.
• 1:40:06
  I. I feel like you're better than
• 1:40:07
  that, man. No, I mean, you're you're right.
• 1:40:10
  What What I What I'm saying, though, is like most most
• 1:40:13
  conservatives won't even. They won't even read that right.
• 1:40:16
  You're. Correct.
• 1:40:16
  Won't even read that. And that's why I'll give you
• 1:40:18
  shit over it, 'cause I know by giving you shit over it, you'll
• 1:40:21
  be like, you know what He I should probably read it.
• 1:40:24
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, well, yeah, I mean no,
• 1:40:27
  even my. Even.
• 1:40:29
  Oh, go ahead. Sorry, Sir.
• 1:40:30
  My my purpose in my purpose in doing that though was like, OK,
• 1:40:34
  I just, I want to read like the craziest.
• 1:40:40
  I want to read the craziest, you know, most whacked out parts.
• 1:40:44
  And I granted there. I've read that from the Bible
• 1:40:47
  too. If you read the craziest, most
• 1:40:50
  whacked out parts of War and Peace, it's pretty fucked up.
• 1:40:54
  Yeah. I all I'm saying is all I'm
• 1:40:59
  saying is just the way you said it.
• 1:41:00
  It did strike me as funny, 'cause if I had flipped it
• 1:41:02
  around and I say, you know, I I heard, I listened to all the
• 1:41:07
  most radical things Rush Limbaugh ever said.
• 1:41:10
  So I kind of know about him. Yeah, fair.
• 1:41:14
  Yeah. Fairpoint.
• 1:41:16
  No, I mean the the the other funny thing is though is like
• 1:41:20
  there are there are a lot more similarities between
• 1:41:23
  Christianity, Judaism and Islam than people like from from just
• 1:41:30
  in in general. I kind of feel like when they
• 1:41:34
  say Judeo-christian, the fact that they exclude Islamo from
• 1:41:38
  that can can can sometimes be annoying because it's a strain
• 1:41:42
  that that strain of thinking if you're going to include
• 1:41:45
  Christians, you should include Muslims because it's the same
• 1:41:49
  monotheistic strain and they believe.
• 1:41:51
  In Yeah, I I've, I've talked to Muslims who I get along with
• 1:41:56
  just fine. And I'm like, I like, there are
• 1:41:58
  a lot of similarities. And then granted, this was when
• 1:42:00
  I was a lot younger, but there, but there were like a lot more
• 1:42:03
  similarities that like my mind was blown.
• 1:42:09
  Being raised, I tend to like have the most like kinship or or
• 1:42:16
  understanding with people from very like strict religions with
• 1:42:22
  very like kind of fiery beliefs. And that and that goes across
• 1:42:25
  the board like there's like specific subsets of Buddhists
• 1:42:30
  and Shintoists who are, you know, more fire and brimstone
• 1:42:33
  that I tend to get along with. And it's interesting it's you're
• 1:42:38
  either got that more traditional Hellfire and brimstone mindset
• 1:42:41
  or you have the more hippie, dippie fairy one and it seems
• 1:42:43
  like nobody really has the two in terms of a religion.
• 1:42:47
  Every every religion either focuses one or the other.
• 1:42:50
  I've. Been I've been told that people
• 1:42:54
  think that I'm very religious. In particular they they say I'm
• 1:42:58
  Catholic or I'm Muslim or whatever.
• 1:43:01
  And I I find. That none of them know you're an
• 1:43:03
  Orthodox Jew, right? Hey, don't dox me, bro.
• 1:43:11
  But no, it's. It's, it's.
• 1:43:12
  Kind of astonishing. Orthodox, by the way.
• 1:43:15
  Because, because my point is essentially that I feel that
• 1:43:18
  there is folk wisdom in this and I can kind of.
• 1:43:22
  I view it almost as evolutionarily like I know that
• 1:43:24
  if I pick a religion that's like Judaism, Christianity, Islam,
• 1:43:30
  the people have lived holding those beliefs sincerely and
• 1:43:34
  successfully survived through all these trials and
• 1:43:38
  tribulations that occur over not.
• 1:43:40
  Only survived. Here's the interesting thing
• 1:43:42
  about that, because survival will bring the genetics forth,
• 1:43:45
  right? But what else they did is they
• 1:43:47
  survived and brought their mimetics forth.
• 1:43:50
  Yes. Which they're the first ones to
• 1:43:53
  have done that by holding on to that holy book and teaching it
• 1:43:56
  to their kids and spreading it that way.
• 1:43:58
  They are the first civilization to bring forth not just their
• 1:44:02
  genetics, but their mimetics, which is explains why it went
• 1:44:07
  through the world in such a different way than every other
• 1:44:09
  religion. And so my point is usually
• 1:44:12
  something to the effect of you've just decided that all of
• 1:44:17
  these things are dumb and that all of this sort of built up
• 1:44:22
  generational wisdom is just a bullshit.
• 1:44:26
  And instead you're going to do, you're going to do whatever you
• 1:44:29
  feel brings you pleasure or whatever, and you're going to
• 1:44:34
  use your logic to justify it. And then, yeah, you see these
• 1:44:38
  people harming society, destroying norms, and then we
• 1:44:43
  have all of these horrible repercussions.
• 1:44:45
  It's like, yeah. And interestingly,
• 1:44:47
  interestingly, every one of these religions they're mocking
• 1:44:51
  has some story or some fable about exactly that.
• 1:44:58
  Let's let's come up with a cool example.
• 1:45:00
  Like, should I let other dudes fuck my wife?
• 1:45:04
  What does Judaism say about that?
• 1:45:05
  Oh, you shouldn't. What does Islam say about that?
• 1:45:09
  Oh, you shouldn't. What does Christianity say about
• 1:45:11
  Oh, you shouldn't. I'm pretty sure the Hindus are
• 1:45:14
  not about that either, right? It's like.
• 1:45:17
  That that's what I'm saying. But what is what?
• 1:45:22
  We have a lot more in common than but.
• 1:45:24
  What do these people do when they just throw out all of the
• 1:45:28
  weight all of these religions is, they think to themselves.
• 1:45:31
  I'd like to get some strange maybe if we have an open
• 1:45:34
  relationship and then they come up with some logic to justify
• 1:45:40
  it. But a lot of the things that
• 1:45:42
  these religions kind of inoculated the population
• 1:45:46
  against was behavior that when you externalize it, right when
• 1:45:51
  when everyone tries to engage in it, it causes repercussions to
• 1:45:55
  society. Yeah.
• 1:45:58
  And provably and repeatedly, yes, almost like an experiment,
• 1:46:03
  almost like scientific method. But you know what do I know?
• 1:46:07
  Yeah, and so. So this is my argument behind
• 1:46:09
  why we should take seriously the edicts that are in religion.
• 1:46:16
  That is not to say that it is always written in stone and that
• 1:46:19
  you can never adapt because there is a thing called
• 1:46:23
  technological progress and that often will disrupt things, and
• 1:46:29
  your religion needs a way to come to terms with that.
• 1:46:33
  That's why I particularly like Judaism, because of the Talmud,
• 1:46:38
  right? The rabbinical tradition would
• 1:46:41
  say, well, what do we do to adapt to that?
• 1:46:43
  And also Catholicism, because you have this huge.
• 1:46:46
  Body of work. I love that aspect.
• 1:46:51
  And and for those that aren't very religious in one of those
• 1:46:55
  branches I I know a lot of people talk about the Talmud now
• 1:46:59
  they don't know what it is. The Catechism and the Talmud are
• 1:47:03
  are similar tradition, which is the church elders or the rabbis,
• 1:47:08
  right, the head. You know, rabbis of the whole
• 1:47:10
  deal, but you know the highest, most respected in the land and
• 1:47:13
  the and the top bishops. Or whatever.
• 1:47:16
  Will sit down and they'll argue and in most if you read the
• 1:47:20
  Catechism or the Talmud. It's mostly.
• 1:47:21
  Arguments from different people at different times about, hey, I
• 1:47:26
  think that we should apply this, you know, law from the Old
• 1:47:30
  Testament this way because of this thing that's going on now.
• 1:47:34
  And here's my case for it intellectually as well as here
• 1:47:38
  is scriptural backing for it. They do the same thing with the
• 1:47:40
  Talmud, except it's the Torah. And so this is the elders of the
• 1:47:44
  religious community, sort of communally, overtime, coming up
• 1:47:49
  with a book of arguments both for and against things as the
• 1:47:54
  world evolves around them. It's not Canon like the Bible,
• 1:47:59
  but it's something that if you're a thinking person, if
• 1:48:01
  you're a philosophical man, if you're a learned man, and
• 1:48:03
  especially if you were getting into any type of priesthood,
• 1:48:06
  rabbi, whatever, you would want to know this inside and out.
• 1:48:10
  Because that's how they decide, you know, kind of the dogma of
• 1:48:14
  the the, you know, operational body of the church.
• 1:48:18
  And you could see why I like. Everybody.
• 1:48:21
  You can see why I like that. Being a person who, you know
• 1:48:24
  loves the common law, Yeah. It's basically church common
• 1:48:30
  law, yes. Yeah, yeah, and and these are
• 1:48:32
  the kinds of like, intergenerational fucking wisdom
• 1:48:37
  machines that just benefit your group so exponentially it's
• 1:48:42
  worth having around. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:48
  And it's it's interesting, even if you don't believe in any of
• 1:48:51
  it, because what you come across in in the Catechism and the
• 1:48:53
  Talmud is a lot of arguments that you might not have thought
• 1:48:58
  about. It's just food for thought.
• 1:48:59
  And sometimes they include stuff that you're not intended to take
• 1:49:03
  seriously at all as well. Just making the case
• 1:49:06
  hypothetically, because you're talking about the people who
• 1:49:09
  could write were the priestly class, right?
• 1:49:13
  They're the biggest autistic nerds in the world at the time.
• 1:49:17
  So what did they do? They argue about shit.
• 1:49:20
  They write hypothetical papers on the morality of whether you
• 1:49:25
  should fuck your wife or not. You know.
• 1:49:29
  The point being is that when faced with some new
• 1:49:32
  technological change, like I don't know the existence of only
• 1:49:35
  fans, well, what should the? Internet in general.
• 1:49:40
  Yeah, What should we do in response to this?
• 1:49:44
  Having 2000 years of people who have written and made arguments?
• 1:49:51
  You can find similar things or arguments that then can be made
• 1:49:54
  into new arguments, You know, case, and then you can come
• 1:49:59
  forth with some sort of decision that's not just based on the
• 1:50:03
  immediate logic of whatever we come up with on our head.
• 1:50:06
  And then just wild popular opinion, because the passions of
• 1:50:11
  the moment will guide you in ways that are not advantageous.
• 1:50:18
  Yeah, because, you know, I I like to say life is messy,
• 1:50:22
  right? And it's not always as clean and
• 1:50:26
  neat as people would like it to be.
• 1:50:28
  And here you have guys that their whole job was to
• 1:50:32
  autistically argue about the morality and case law of the the
• 1:50:37
  application of, you know, the commandments of God.
• 1:50:41
  Because they're nerds and that's all they have to do.
• 1:50:44
  It's philosophical. It's interesting.
• 1:50:48
  I find a lot of prot based, Protestant based people tend to
• 1:50:55
  like see philosophy and religion is very distant.
• 1:50:59
  Really. Yeah, it it they seem to like
• 1:51:02
  think of like philosophy. If you say philosophy to them,
• 1:51:06
  they're going to think of Socrates and Nishi, right?
• 1:51:11
  Often times they don't think about Christianity itself as a
• 1:51:15
  philosophy, or the fact that like, that Catholics Revere
• 1:51:19
  Saints. It's not the same as like Pratts
• 1:51:22
  think it is. It's usually like they're
• 1:51:24
  revered for their for their wisdom.
• 1:51:27
  So, like, when they think of philosophy, they don't think of
• 1:51:31
  Augustine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:51:33
  Augustine, I, I, I man, I know Aquinas.
• 1:51:38
  I always, I always end up saying Aquinas with when I mean Marcus
• 1:51:42
  Aurelius and vice versa. It's very.
• 1:51:44
  Very no, because they'll think of him.
• 1:51:47
  If you said theologian he might come to mind.
• 1:51:51
  But if you say philosopher honestly it seems to me Pratts
• 1:51:55
  think of like modern or like romantic era or like that kind
• 1:52:00
  of philosophy or like classical Socrates, Aristotle.
• 1:52:04
  Well, like and and. Pardon me if I'm I'm wrong, but
• 1:52:08
  like, what tradition are they? What tradition are they building
• 1:52:13
  upon? Like do do they Revere the
• 1:52:15
  Church fathers? Usually when they're.
• 1:52:19
  Not usually, no. You're not supposed to do that.
• 1:52:21
  Ancestry is frowned upon. Oh yeah.
• 1:52:25
  I don't consider it that, but that's what they would say.
• 1:52:27
  See, that's The thing is I've sat in on a bunch of different
• 1:52:31
  religions at this point in my life, and one thing I find about
• 1:52:34
  Protestants is that lack of depth to a lot of what they try
• 1:52:41
  to teach. Like like if you go to their
• 1:52:43
  Sunday school, for example, I went to Catholic catechism
• 1:52:49
  school, OK? And I didn't go to a Catholic
• 1:52:51
  school. I went to a Catholic program
• 1:52:54
  that they have essentially three times a week on top of school.
• 1:52:59
  That's if you don't go to a Catholic school, you have to do
• 1:53:02
  that. OK.
• 1:53:03
  And we would study Latin philosophy, the historical
• 1:53:08
  context of the Bible, what happened after the Holy Roman
• 1:53:11
  Empire, On and on and on. We weren't just reading the
• 1:53:16
  Bible then. I go to Protestant Baptist, you
• 1:53:20
  know, non denominational, whatever.
• 1:53:22
  I've been to the kids programs of theirs with friends and
• 1:53:26
  things. That's not what they're doing.
• 1:53:28
  They're usually reading like a dumbed down in the language and
• 1:53:34
  prose version of a Bible story that's made for children and
• 1:53:38
  takes out some of the meaning in the process.
• 1:53:41
  Sometimes I remember I went to one and we watched Veggie Tales
• 1:53:48
  and Cumming as a guy that went to like had a Catholic
• 1:53:50
  education. We were reading and and
• 1:53:52
  translating Latin verses from the from like the textbook that
• 1:53:58
  had pictures of the original, a manuscript that they have in the
• 1:54:03
  the first Bible essentially in the Vatican, which is in Latin.
• 1:54:05
  And we were translating that that's what we would do or we
• 1:54:08
  would go to the monastery and do pilgrimages, right.
• 1:54:12
  And so when I go to the and and it really makes me understand
• 1:54:16
  Protestants a lot better that I've seen kind of what they do
• 1:54:20
  where it's like they have class where they say Jesus loves you
• 1:54:24
  very much and there's actually some value in that because it it
• 1:54:28
  is very effective on children to in.
• 1:54:32
  I find that Protestants who grow up that way love Jesus a lot
• 1:54:36
  more and a lot less, maybe autistic about religion because
• 1:54:41
  they're presented with less philosophical material early
• 1:54:47
  early on. Yeah, Like I I I feel like a lot
• 1:54:51
  of Protestantism kind of it's that way because it helped them
• 1:54:57
  grow. Mm hmm, you know.
• 1:55:00
  Really effective at pushing the message that, like the core
• 1:55:04
  message of Christianity. I'm not going to ever deny that.
• 1:55:07
  I think, I think ultimately though it's it's kind of failing
• 1:55:12
  in a lot of ways like it's it's it's vulnerable to just be kind
• 1:55:16
  of sassooned. Which it is.
• 1:55:19
  It's being, you know, Co opted by now.
• 1:55:22
  There's basically LGBT Protestant, right?
• 1:55:27
  Well, tell me, tell me this, where are the Calvinists?
• 1:55:29
  Right. Calvinists used to be the
• 1:55:30
  majority in America and its founding, and they're nowhere to
• 1:55:33
  be found. Well, the Calvinists now are all
• 1:55:35
  of, like the woke kind of people, along with a lot of
• 1:55:38
  these other sects. So I I wouldn't be surprised to
• 1:55:40
  see kind of the trend going away.
• 1:55:43
  Oh yeah. Calvinists and progressivism
• 1:55:45
  have been tied at the hips since the inception of both.
• 1:55:49
  Yeah. But now there's no Calvinists,
• 1:55:53
  but there's still progressivism. It's like, yeah, they're the
• 1:55:55
  same people. Yep.
• 1:55:57
  They're same descendants, right, Calvinists and the Universalist
• 1:56:00
  church as well. So I wouldn't be surprised to
• 1:56:02
  see this kind of kind of thing. And and I think it's
• 1:56:06
  specifically because of the lack of the lack of this sort of
• 1:56:13
  intellectual framework that goes back longer than just, you know,
• 1:56:19
  the 100 years when your church was founded because some guy in
• 1:56:22
  1910 had a different view on dancing.
• 1:56:25
  Protestant Protestantism as it exists in America and it's like
• 1:56:30
  many versions and sects really does work on a small scale,
• 1:56:36
  right. It's very very effective
• 1:56:39
  organizing a like a rural community of a couple 100
• 1:56:42
  people. But as soon as it the the, the
• 1:56:46
  the way Catholicism is effective is organizing it centrally.
• 1:56:50
  So the The thing is pretty much you go to a Catholic Church, you
• 1:56:54
  know what to expect everywhere and anywhere.
• 1:56:58
  Like McDonald's. You know what I mean?
• 1:57:00
  Like. Well, I will.
• 1:57:03
  I will posit that I think one advantage that a lot of
• 1:57:06
  Catholics probably don't think about in the US and why they're
• 1:57:09
  sort of more fervent in their beliefs here than they are in
• 1:57:15
  Europe and some of these other countries is because it's
• 1:57:17
  specifically not the state religion.
• 1:57:20
  Right. In fact, like there there, there
• 1:57:22
  were some studies recently from what I've said, looking at
• 1:57:24
  birth, birth rate and stuff that like countries that are Catholic
• 1:57:29
  actually are below a lot of the Protestant countries around them
• 1:57:33
  in terms of birth rate. And you might ask yourself why
• 1:57:37
  that might be it it it's because, like, if everything is
• 1:57:42
  Catholic, then you're just kind of like a fish in the water.
• 1:57:48
  Well then, and there's no. There's no.
• 1:57:50
  Real. You're kind of Catholic by
• 1:57:53
  birthright at that point, right? Whereas like in a country like
• 1:57:58
  America, Catholics are not the default and everyone around them
• 1:58:03
  is not Catholic and feels that they're Catholic by.
• 1:58:06
  Yeah, you're only Catholic if you're born into it.
• 1:58:10
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, but but.
• 1:58:13
  Very few people convert as well, Like very, very few people
• 1:58:16
  convert to Catholicism. Yeah, but you're different.
• 1:58:19
  Here is my my point. It's an out group thing, and
• 1:58:23
  also it's an out group thing that unites.
• 1:58:25
  And this is historically true many different like outsider
• 1:58:29
  populations that moved in as immigrants.
• 1:58:32
  This is true of the Polish, It's true of the Irish.
• 1:58:34
  It's true of now the the Central and South Americans look not
• 1:58:38
  going to lie. Being a Catholic guy, you have
• 1:58:40
  more in common with them in your neighborhood than if you're not.
• 1:58:44
  Just. As a baseline.
• 1:58:46
  I mean, it's just a fact of life they have.
• 1:58:49
  Well. And and this is The thing is,
• 1:58:51
  the Hispanic people around me don't like the gay stuff very
• 1:58:54
  much, 'cause they're deeply Catholic.
• 1:58:56
  Who knew what? What a shock, right?
• 1:58:59
  Yeah, well, what's what's interesting about Catholicism
• 1:59:03
  is, at least within the last few years, there really seems to be
• 1:59:08
  a split from what I've observed, because the Pope brought the the
• 1:59:13
  Pope. And we've talked at this before,
• 1:59:16
  at least in private. I I think we've talked about it
• 1:59:19
  on the show, but I mean. I'll just say that.
• 1:59:24
  The. Pope not as important as non
• 1:59:26
  Catholics think to the daily life of A.
• 1:59:28
  Catholic, right. Well, well, no, you're right.
• 1:59:33
  And that is something I I've learned.
• 1:59:35
  But like also it is. It is interesting because now
• 1:59:38
  there is kind of like a a split between, you know, the.
• 1:59:44
  American It's American Catholics in Rome, basically.
• 1:59:48
  That's the big and now. But the Central and South
• 1:59:52
  American Catholics are starting to side with the American side
• 1:59:56
  because what they don't like is him pushing the gay stuff.
• 1:59:59
  Now he says that they're going to bless gay unions.
• 2:00:04
  Well, that. Is for specifically.
• 2:00:07
  I mean, you can go to, you can go to the Catechism and you can
• 2:00:12
  look at the rules that the Church has decided about this a
• 2:00:15
  very long time ago, in addition to looking at what it says in
• 2:00:18
  Scripture and it says it's an abomination.
• 2:00:20
  So how can then you person suddenly decide that you're
• 2:00:24
  going to override that? The the idea that the Pope is
• 2:00:28
  God Incarnate is something that Protestants made-up, by the way.
• 2:00:32
  The the point that's no, no, I no, no, I I I realized that.
• 2:00:38
  I mean, I guess my only point was, at least from when I was
• 2:00:42
  growing up, it seemed like the Catholic Church was like a lot
• 2:00:45
  more unified as a whole. And now there seems to be a lot
• 2:00:50
  more of A. At least that's a lot.
• 2:00:52
  Higher trust. Like I said, these small
• 2:00:55
  Protestant communities work well, high trust, but when they
• 2:00:59
  pop up, you know, in the next town over and have a different
• 2:01:03
  version of religion, they end up at odds with each other.
• 2:01:06
  Whereas if a Catholic Church starts at the next town over,
• 2:01:08
  you're not going to be at odds with each other.
• 2:01:10
  And that's effective and was why it spreads so well in Europe.
• 2:01:15
  And then all these immigrant populations came here that were
• 2:01:18
  primarily Catholic and as like them being outsiders as
• 2:01:22
  immigrants. And I'm talking like early.
• 2:01:25
  I'm talking the, like I said, Polish in the 1800s, Catholic,
• 2:01:29
  Irish, Italians. Why do you think Italians and
• 2:01:33
  Irish and Portuguese all all live next to each other up here?
• 2:01:37
  You think it's an accident? No.
• 2:01:39
  We all go to the same churches. Yeah, I mean and and that's also
• 2:01:44
  why I think a lot of like the the ball busting between Irish
• 2:01:47
  and Italians, that's all it is, is ball busting because I mean
• 2:01:52
  MO, it's it's just like team sports.
• 2:01:55
  It's competing populations. It's the same reason like
• 2:01:59
  there's this old notion of like the racist Irish Boston people
• 2:02:03
  that hated black people. But what was really going on
• 2:02:05
  there, think I've said this before on the show too, was they
• 2:02:08
  were trying to move the Irish population that had lived in
• 2:02:12
  South Boston for a very long time out so that they could move
• 2:02:16
  these black people from other big inner cities in just to do
• 2:02:21
  it just to displace that just because it was too white,
• 2:02:25
  essentially. Yeah.
• 2:02:28
  And so the Irish got mad. But also before that you had,
• 2:02:32
  you have to understand, they're both considered low class,
• 2:02:35
  right? They're both mostly in manual
• 2:02:37
  labor and they were competing against each other for jobs and
• 2:02:40
  like where to live. And so black people and Irish
• 2:02:43
  people in the Boston area for a while there was a tent, but it
• 2:02:47
  it it's because they were an ethnic enclave next to another
• 2:02:50
  ethnic enclave. And trying to get the.
• 2:02:51
  Same jobs. Well, for a while like the Irish
• 2:02:55
  were were called like white N words.
• 2:02:57
  Right. And that's another element I
• 2:02:59
  wanted to point out is that the racists in Boston of the day
• 2:03:03
  would say Irish need not apply black people.
• 2:03:07
  Sure, right. There were stores that would say
• 2:03:10
  you can, you can bring a dog in, but don't bring in Irish in.
• 2:03:16
  That was, that was in like, the 1920s too.
• 2:03:19
  Yeah, yeah. So it wasn't that long ago.
• 2:03:23
  And yeah, that's why they developed these ethnic enclaves
• 2:03:28
  and then they have this unified religion in Catholicism.
• 2:03:31
  That's the same wherever you go. And that's why Catholicism
• 2:03:36
  gained a hold in a country that was actually founded to
• 2:03:38
  basically shit all over it. And now it's one of the largest
• 2:03:44
  populations in the president's a Catholic.
• 2:03:46
  In theory. In theory, he's a Catholic.
• 2:03:52
  Yeah, support for abortion alone means he's not.
• 2:03:56
  But whatever, in theory, he's. Yeah, well, that.
• 2:03:59
  Well, that's a lot of Democrats you know, too.
• 2:04:03
  So. And that's the thing about
• 2:04:07
  Catholicism too, though you can there's all different arguments,
• 2:04:11
  and people can square the circle however they like.
• 2:04:16
  You can have a CLIC of. Beliefs and still be a Catholic
• 2:04:20
  and not feel like you are a contradiction, even though it's
• 2:04:23
  quite obvious that you are and that's what some people don't
• 2:04:25
  like about it. But well, as long.
• 2:04:28
  As it is, because it's. Not a contradiction.
• 2:04:31
  I want to I want to point this out because it's really
• 2:04:33
  important. Catholicism is not this big
• 2:04:34
  contradiction because we accept from the very beginning.
• 2:04:38
  The philosophy of it is is that we are fallen, wicked and
• 2:04:41
  sinful. Yeah.
• 2:04:43
  And everything you do, almost everything you do, is the sin.
• 2:04:46
  If you read the Old Testament. And that's why Catholics believe
• 2:04:49
  that way, and that's why Catholics feel guilty about
• 2:04:52
  shit. And you, So you're already,
• 2:04:56
  you're already a sin. It's not the oh, I got to commit
• 2:04:58
  that you're already a fucking Sinner.
• 2:05:00
  You're already wicked. You're already.
• 2:05:01
  Yeah. Vile and of this earth, and
• 2:05:05
  despicable because of that. And the only way for you to
• 2:05:08
  achieve any semblance of redemption is to listen to what
• 2:05:11
  your God Creator told you through his one begotten son,
• 2:05:15
  who he sacrificed to save you from yourself.
• 2:05:21
  It's not a complicated religion at all.
• 2:05:23
  Follow the. Rules to try and not sin and it
• 2:05:27
  you still have to do confess you you can think you're not a
• 2:05:32
  Sinner. You still?
• 2:05:32
  Are. That's Catholicism.
• 2:05:35
  I find that Protestants get to be holy rollers because they
• 2:05:38
  think you can achieve a point of sinlessness in this world.
• 2:05:41
  That's not what the Bible says. No, we're we're all look, we're
• 2:05:48
  all faults. We're all.
• 2:05:49
  Faults only. Christ achieved that state.
• 2:05:53
  Yeah. He is the only sinless man that
• 2:05:57
  is Catholic. And this is the thing.
• 2:06:00
  That's because they taught us. Like I said, philosophy.
• 2:06:03
  The reason behind why you believe this.
• 2:06:06
  So when I left the Catholic Church, it was simply because I
• 2:06:09
  overthought things, OK? But it wasn't because I didn't
• 2:06:12
  understand their philosophy. They made it very
• 2:06:15
  understandable, over what, 13 years?
• 2:06:19
  Do you think you would? Do you think you would go back
• 2:06:23
  now as like an older gentleman or?
• 2:06:28
  Oh, I love church. What do you talk about?
• 2:06:31
  Church is fine. Yeah.
• 2:06:32
  No, there's no problem. Well, I mean.
• 2:06:35
  I mean like as a practicing. Yeah, what's wrong with that?
• 2:06:43
  OK. No, nothing I.
• 2:06:45
  And the interesting thing about Catholicism too, and this is
• 2:06:49
  part of the like the catechisms, like the ongoing debate, you
• 2:06:52
  cannot believe in Catholicism and still be a practicing
• 2:06:56
  Catholic too. If you do all the things and you
• 2:07:00
  understand what it means and you just don't believe, you still
• 2:07:04
  might get to go to heaven or at least purgatory.
• 2:07:07
  That's the other thing is Catholics have purgatory and and
• 2:07:12
  that solves a lot of pride. It sounds like a cop out, but it
• 2:07:14
  solves a lot of problems. No, no.
• 2:07:16
  Like unbaptized babies. And in in Protestant, the answer
• 2:07:20
  is they go to hell. Yeah.
• 2:07:25
  Right. And the Catholic answer is,
• 2:07:26
  well, maybe not quite that severe on the babies, you know.
• 2:07:31
  Yeah. There's still a lot of Hellfire
• 2:07:35
  and rimstone and Catholicism, right?
• 2:07:36
  But they're like the babies. They'll be all right.
• 2:07:40
  Also, the people who never heard the word of Christ.
• 2:07:42
  That's that's another important one.
• 2:07:44
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 2:07:45
  That that. Belief is that you, if you've
• 2:07:47
  never been given the chance to understand Christ, that you can
• 2:07:51
  still go to heaven if you're a good person.
• 2:07:55
  Yeah. Because that's not.
• 2:07:58
  Fair. And that's something that's
• 2:08:01
  something that like, I'm not Catholic, but I always subscribe
• 2:08:04
  to, like, you know, ever since I was a kid.
• 2:08:09
  So I. Mean.
• 2:08:10
  It's hard. It's it's a hard education for a
• 2:08:13
  kid, too. I was going to catechism when my
• 2:08:17
  friends were going out to the arcade on a Wednesday or Friday
• 2:08:21
  or whatever. Like that's where I was when
• 2:08:23
  Monday. Wednesday.
• 2:08:24
  Friday. For many years.
• 2:08:25
  For three hours, people say I had, oh, I had Sunday school.
• 2:08:31
  Like when I say I have a Catholic education, but I didn't
• 2:08:33
  go to Catholic school. People would compare that to
• 2:08:36
  Sunday school. No, no, you went an hour on
• 2:08:38
  Sunday before church. It's not the same thing I went.
• 2:08:42
  I went for 9 hours a week for like 13 years for like.
• 2:08:46
  Eight months? A year.
• 2:08:47
  It was fucking. Nuts man.
• 2:08:51
  And I had to do like, I'm at the Pope though.
• 2:08:54
  John Paul the 2nd, when I was a kid he came here like one time.
• 2:09:01
  There is, there is an actual picture of me shaking hands with
• 2:09:05
  the Pope. If somebody ever wanted to find
• 2:09:07
  it, you probably won't find it. And you probably won't know
• 2:09:09
  which one's me anyway, 'cause I don't look the same for the
• 2:09:13
  most. Actually, I do you you'd see me
• 2:09:15
  right away. You'd be like that's Max.
• 2:09:17
  Look at that big fucking Irish head.
• 2:09:22
  Just a little little bit. Max shaking hands with the Pope.
• 2:09:25
  That happened. Yeah.
• 2:09:28
  And I didn't crap my pants. When I'm at the Pope.
• 2:09:34
  My wife had headphones on. I want her to hear that.
• 2:09:37
  When I met the Pope and shook his hand, I didn't.
• 2:09:40
  Shit my pants. No, you did not.
• 2:09:43
  That's right. And I was like a kid too, so
• 2:09:45
  it's an extra big bonus. What?
• 2:09:47
  What? What?
• 2:09:48
  What's? What's the significance of that
• 2:09:50
  is supposed to be? Is there someone famous who?
• 2:09:55
  The President. The President shit his pants
• 2:09:57
  when he met the Pope. Oh, yeah.
• 2:10:05
  Oh yeah. That.
• 2:10:06
  That. Yeah.
• 2:10:07
  Oh yeah. That it's just Biden.
• 2:10:08
  So we forget the silly thing. No, he shit his pants when he
• 2:10:13
  shook hands with the Pope. I shook hands with the good Pope
• 2:10:18
  John Paul the 2nd. And if you don't fucking, If you
• 2:10:21
  don't like that, fight me, bro. He was a good Pope.
• 2:10:24
  Well, yeah. Yeah, Yeah, he was.
• 2:10:25
  Yeah, he was. He ended.
• 2:10:28
  Communism. Like he was, He was instrumental
• 2:10:31
  into the fall of the Soviet. He didn't end communism.
• 2:10:33
  OK, that's a bit exaggerated, but he was instrumental to the
• 2:10:36
  fall of the Soviet. Yeah, I I I mean, he effectively
• 2:10:40
  did. He didn't end communism.
• 2:10:42
  He effectively ended Communism's reign at the time.
• 2:10:48
  And that happens when you're born behind the Iron Curtain and
• 2:10:51
  you have some perspective in life, eh?
• 2:10:52
  Well, yeah, It's also, it's also ironic, but you know, now the
• 2:10:58
  Pope, from what my, from what my Catholic friends tell me, is
• 2:11:03
  essentially a car. He is a communist he.
• 2:11:06
  Advocated communism openly. Yeah.
• 2:11:11
  Yeah. So I mean, it's kind of.
• 2:11:13
  I'll say this, Sam, the sentiment I get on the ground
• 2:11:16
  from Catholics and and like I said, we have a monastery here.
• 2:11:20
  I've been around people who come from all over to come through
• 2:11:24
  the monastery. So Catholics, just Catholics,
• 2:11:27
  OK? That's the only reason they're
• 2:11:29
  there is they're Catholic. That's what unites them, OK?
• 2:11:32
  Yeah. They.
• 2:11:34
  All. Basically have the opinion that
• 2:11:37
  that that if there's not going to be and and also I listen to
• 2:11:41
  the radio show from the Archbishop of Boston.
• 2:11:43
  I forget I think Shanahan, I listen to his radio show quite
• 2:11:47
  often. So you get a pulse of how
• 2:11:49
  Catholics are feeling OK if the next if the next Pope isn't
• 2:11:54
  American. And of the American Catholic
• 2:11:57
  mindset, the American Catholics are probably going to like
• 2:12:02
  schism off from the Church. That's, that's what I've heard.
• 2:12:05
  That's what I've heard too. Yeah.
• 2:12:07
  I mean, I it's. Not represent and that, by the
• 2:12:09
  way, this includes input from his the Hispanic population.
• 2:12:15
  Oh yeah, yeah. It's not just white Irish
• 2:12:18
  Catholics, because in fact we're kind of a minority among
• 2:12:21
  Catholics now in this area. Especially.
• 2:12:24
  It's heavily Portuguese, Puerto Rican, Guatemalan, which is
• 2:12:31
  still Catholic. On and on.
• 2:12:34
  This is. The body of the church here now,
• 2:12:37
  and the body of the church here doesn't like the gay shit.
• 2:12:43
  And that's exactly what it boils down to, Sam it.
• 2:12:47
  And he just said he's going to bless gay marriages.
• 2:12:49
  I know for a fact that there are bishops, archbishops and priests
• 2:12:54
  all over Massachusetts now who are willing to openly defy the
• 2:12:58
  Pope on this. Good.
• 2:13:01
  Yeah, they're not going to bless same sex marriages there.
• 2:13:04
  Are some. There were some that will do it,
• 2:13:06
  but I know for a fact that there are people all the way up to
• 2:13:09
  Archbishop who are just going to say no.
• 2:13:12
  Look, I'm. Well then what's he going to do?
• 2:13:14
  Is he going to excommunicate half the fucking body of the
• 2:13:17
  church? He might.
• 2:13:19
  Then they're going to have their own See, that's why they say
• 2:13:22
  they might leave the church, because they might have to by
• 2:13:25
  necessity. Also the the Latin masses and
• 2:13:28
  the foreign language masses. I know we've talked about this
• 2:13:30
  before, but that's really fucking important to people.
• 2:13:33
  Yeah. Look, no.
• 2:13:34
  And and I I just want you to understand, I'm not bashing
• 2:13:37
  Catholicism as a whole. I'm.
• 2:13:40
  I'm simply making an observation that within my lifetime, I've
• 2:13:44
  seen the church go from like super unified to now.
• 2:13:49
  And then think about it from within the church, right?
• 2:13:52
  You can see that as obvious as a fucking light on your face
• 2:13:56
  outside the church, right? Well, inside the church it feels
• 2:14:00
  like it's it's those of us who have kind of old school
• 2:14:03
  traditional trad Cath, I guess you could say beliefs.
• 2:14:06
  That's why you see a lot of radical trad caths.
• 2:14:09
  Because. They feel under attack from all
• 2:14:11
  sides, including within within the church.
• 2:14:15
  The church itself is attacking its most traditional wing.
• 2:14:20
  What do they do at that point? It's it's.
• 2:14:24
  I see why a lot of them spurred out.
• 2:14:25
  And then you have like, obvious, like honey traps, like Fuentes
• 2:14:29
  pretending to be. That's a whole different.
• 2:14:31
  Yeah. Although, although to be fair,
• 2:14:34
  like, I do know some Catholics who have, like, messed me and
• 2:14:38
  that they've they've said like, hey, thanks for pointing out
• 2:14:42
  Fuentes's stupidity because he's an idiot and he doesn't speak
• 2:14:47
  for, you know, us. He doesn't.
• 2:14:50
  Really speak for anybody. No in.
• 2:14:53
  Terms of the Catholic population of this country.
• 2:14:56
  The Catholic population of this country would mostly make him
• 2:15:00
  sick because they're diverse or whatever.
• 2:15:03
  Well, they're very. Diverse.
• 2:15:05
  That's how it is, man. Well, and because they like.
• 2:15:07
  And because they like women, too, so they're they're.
• 2:15:11
  Yeah, Catholics actually do enjoy fucking little known fact.
• 2:15:15
  That's why they have so many kids.
• 2:15:17
  Yeah. On average.
• 2:15:20
  Also, you know condoms aren't allowed.
• 2:15:22
  So what are you going to do? You know every sperm is sacred.
• 2:15:25
  As the old Monty Python bit goes, that's true.
• 2:15:29
  Yeah. If a if a every sperm is sacred.
• 2:15:34
  If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.
• 2:15:38
  Yeah, that's a go. Go look that up.
• 2:15:40
  Every sperm is sacred. It's a old bit for Monty Python.
• 2:15:44
  If you haven't seen it, it's fucking hilarious.
• 2:15:46
  And it's kind of true. That's the Catholic mindset.
• 2:15:50
  If you're coming, you might make a baby, or at least be trying
• 2:15:53
  to. You got Yeah.
• 2:15:56
  This is why I advocate no fat bro.
• 2:15:59
  If you're if you're coming and you're not trying to make a
• 2:16:01
  baby, God gets mad at you. I'm telling you, I'm a minister.
• 2:16:06
  You can trust me. Ordained 13 years.
• 2:16:10
  Yeah, it's yes. So we've.
• 2:16:15
  Heard you need to be coming in. Your loving wife, not your hand,
• 2:16:21
  you heathen. Come on now, girlfriend is
• 2:16:28
  acceptable. Oh.
• 2:16:29
  I said, Come on now. I thought you guys would laugh.
• 2:16:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:16:38
  God. God makes it very clear if you
• 2:16:41
  read scripture that if you if you if, if one single bit drop
• 2:16:45
  of your bodily fluid should hit the ground.
• 2:16:49
  Killed the guy. Yeah, he'll.
• 2:16:51
  He killed the guy for. That, yeah.
• 2:16:53
  Yeah, he was supposed to fuck this other guy's, his brother's
• 2:16:56
  wife. Long story short, all right?
• 2:16:59
  And more. And he pulled out.
• 2:17:01
  And so God killed him. Yeah, on the spot.
• 2:17:03
  More Morpheus says. Pulling out?
• 2:17:09
  Think about that gentleman pulling out God instantly kills
• 2:17:12
  you for. Well.
• 2:17:20
  Get your wife. Or shoot that.
• 2:17:23
  Or shoot. Then a lot of my friends ought
• 2:17:24
  to be dead. So.
• 2:17:26
  See. Me too.
• 2:17:28
  Probably at some point in my life.
• 2:17:29
  I don't know. But what if?
• 2:17:32
  Yeah, you're supposed to create children in the loving matrimony
• 2:17:38
  of marriage. Don't you know that?
• 2:17:39
  You're not supposed to come in a fucking sock, you fucking
• 2:17:43
  weirdo. Now is it better to come in a
• 2:17:45
  whore or on the floor? A whore?
• 2:17:49
  Yeah. Objectively, objectively, it's
• 2:17:51
  better to come in a whore with the potential that you knock her
• 2:17:54
  up. That's what the Bible says.
• 2:17:56
  That's that's what Morpheus. That's what Morpheus just said.
• 2:18:00
  Yeah, but he didn't rhyme because he's not as cool as I
• 2:18:03
  am. But well, Morpheus is pretty
• 2:18:05
  cool though. He's a based cripple man.
• 2:18:08
  Like look bro. Popping off, Can we go back and
• 2:18:11
  take a look at some chat? You know, these people didn't
• 2:18:13
  pay us and we should read their chat anyway.
• 2:18:15
  'Cause, he said, he said, And I quote Morpheus better in the
• 2:18:19
  belly of a whore than on the ground, which doesn't fucking
• 2:18:22
  rhyme. So what I said was, is it better
• 2:18:25
  in the belly of a whore or on the floor?
• 2:18:29
  Yeah, he's right though either way.
• 2:18:32
  Yeah, let's see, what else do we got here?
• 2:18:35
  I wanted to read Apex. Gamma came by and I don't know
• 2:18:39
  if he's still listening but he said hope you all had a Merry
• 2:18:41
  Christmas chat with a heart and Sammy get a new camera.
• 2:18:45
  The kids look when sharp, You know Merry Christmas to Apex as
• 2:18:49
  well. Obviously the former Co host of
• 2:18:52
  the show and good friend. Yeah, who a bunch.
• 2:18:56
  Of Morpheus. And then MAGA News Network says
• 2:18:59
  this luck guy can't walk on like Sam.
• 2:19:01
  We talked about that, Morpheus said.
• 2:19:03
  Fuck rhyming. What do you think about that,
• 2:19:05
  Shmuley? I think he's a little bitch and
• 2:19:08
  he's jealous that he can't rhyme.
• 2:19:14
  Morpheus also said CCD. That's what we call Catholic
• 2:19:17
  education for. I didn't use that term.
• 2:19:19
  I say catechism was a pain in the Dick Wednesday evenings
• 2:19:23
  growing up, but looking back, it's giving me my core values.
• 2:19:26
  Yeah, admittedly I went to longer ones than a lot of people
• 2:19:32
  they had me signed up for. That's how it was.
• 2:19:35
  It's 'cause we got the monastery over here and shit.
• 2:19:37
  But yeah, at the very least it's going to be like 3 or 4 hours
• 2:19:40
  once a week for most, most of your education.
• 2:19:44
  You you get your your confirmation.
• 2:19:48
  I was in like 11th grade, so basically like a junior.
• 2:19:53
  So OK, I didn't do that one last year of senior as it's CCD kind
• 2:19:59
  of. It's a grind but but like.
• 2:20:06
  I've heard. It's given him his core values.
• 2:20:09
  That's true of me as well, yeah. Yeah, I I yeah, I can.
• 2:20:11
  I can respect, I can respect that so.
• 2:20:17
  You know, we did a lot of philosophy, a lot of study, a
• 2:20:19
  lot of introspection and these are things it's like I said,
• 2:20:22
  just things I noticed that I don't see a lot of from like
• 2:20:26
  Baptist or evangelical or non denominational churches.
• 2:20:30
  And it's like I said, I think that there's their way of
• 2:20:34
  talking to children is better at getting children to accept and
• 2:20:37
  understand the core message quicker.
• 2:20:40
  But in. And I think it's less fulfilling
• 2:20:42
  and it leads to a less, like, introspective view on religion,
• 2:20:46
  which seems to be what's missing from a lot of people.
• 2:20:49
  I feel like that's I'm not Mattea, you know, what I got for
• 2:20:53
  Christmas was some clothes, and that's what I.
• 2:20:56
  Mostly. If you get me anything but I
• 2:20:58
  said get me nothing, because I'm just not a materialistic guy, I
• 2:21:02
  said spend your money on my kid. I got some.
• 2:21:07
  I got some clothes, too. I got.
• 2:21:10
  That was actually one thing I wanted to ask while everyone was
• 2:21:13
  here. What?
• 2:21:13
  What did everyone get for Christmas?
• 2:21:15
  I know when we I was thinking the same thing, like everybody
• 2:21:18
  could talk at Christmas and then I, you know, we got lost in
• 2:21:21
  conversation, but we could. Do that.
• 2:21:24
  Bit now, right? What'd you get, Sam?
• 2:21:27
  How was your? Christmas.
• 2:21:28
  Overall, I know you had a special gift for your grandma
• 2:21:31
  and you should talk about that too.
• 2:21:33
  That was a good one. Well, my my Christmas overall
• 2:21:36
  was pretty good. I had a pretty good.
• 2:21:38
  Fit right into a plug, too. A heartwarming plug.
• 2:21:41
  She well, she gifted me I. It was actually an early
• 2:21:47
  Christmas present, but she gifted me some writing software
• 2:21:51
  from the good folks at atticus dot IO.
• 2:21:55
  Not to sponsor the show, but I want to plug them anyway because
• 2:21:59
  they make great. Legitimately use and like which
• 2:22:03
  is even better. I mean, I mean, listen, if if
• 2:22:08
  the folks at Atticus IO want to, you know, throw a couple bucks,
• 2:22:11
  please. But by all means, you know,
• 2:22:15
  we'll throw the banner in the show notes.
• 2:22:17
  By all, by all means. But I was able to reformat
• 2:22:28
  Shadows of Deception and make it a little tidier as far as the
• 2:22:36
  formatting goes. So that's what, you know, I got
• 2:22:41
  from my grandmother, and in turn I gave her a copy of the reprint
• 2:22:46
  signed for her Christmas present.
• 2:22:50
  Which? The book is dedicated to her
• 2:22:52
  audience. Which?
• 2:22:53
  Is really nice as well because she gifted Sam a great gift as a
• 2:22:57
  child, which was a gift of love, of reading, apparently, which
• 2:23:01
  seems like that's the person to dedicate a book to when you
• 2:23:05
  write one, huh? That's a beautiful story.
• 2:23:08
  I just wanted to, you know, make sure we got that one out there,
• 2:23:11
  'cause there's a lot of human gloom out there, but that's a
• 2:23:14
  very nice story. Well, and she's also, she's also
• 2:23:18
  89 and she's in really good health.
• 2:23:22
  I want to make that clear. I don't think she's. 89 years
• 2:23:26
  young, you know. I don't think she's going to
• 2:23:28
  pass away anytime soon, but a lot of people, they dedicate
• 2:23:32
  books to family members after they've passed away and there's
• 2:23:37
  nothing wrong with that. But I wanted to dedicate the.
• 2:23:41
  Book to her. Version Know how much you
• 2:23:43
  appreciate her. Yeah, I wanted to dedicate the
• 2:23:46
  book to her while she was still alive and when I gave her the
• 2:23:48
  first book in June, which I have.
• 2:23:56
  Let's see, I actually, I've never done this before.
• 2:23:59
  I have both copies. Someone actually asked me of
• 2:24:04
  this. So hold on, this one is the 1st
• 2:24:12
  edition, which is a. Which is a nice cover.
• 2:24:16
  It's not that it wasn't good, right?
• 2:24:19
  But you had the chance to do it over again.
• 2:24:22
  And I do like what you came out with in the second one.
• 2:24:25
  So this is the newer edition, which by the way this this kind
• 2:24:31
  of noir style is going to be the kind of I guess the.
• 2:24:35
  The picture reflects the original picture in a lot of
• 2:24:39
  ways anyway, right? It kind of has the same vibe.
• 2:24:43
  Yeah, well, and this, this is going to be kind of the style
• 2:24:47
  going forward and future. I like it because.
• 2:24:50
  Also, because it looks kind of like the font and everything
• 2:24:53
  reminds me of like the old dime store novels, I may be dating
• 2:24:57
  myself a little. No, that.
• 2:24:59
  It's funny you bring that up because that's essentially what
• 2:25:02
  novellas are. They're essentially dime store.
• 2:25:07
  Yeah, they're just. They're just novels.
• 2:25:11
  Yeah, and that's. What you're making, because it's
• 2:25:13
  not, it's not like it's a 500 page slog.
• 2:25:17
  It's a short novel that, right? Honestly, I read it in one
• 2:25:20
  night. Yeah, no, I I read it.
• 2:25:25
  Past though I. Mean it?
• 2:25:26
  Would take them a couple days, but it's not something that will
• 2:25:29
  take my a month. My friend, my friend Eric Bishop
• 2:25:34
  actually wrote a a dime sword novel too here Ransomed
• 2:25:41
  daughter. And yes, I I.
• 2:25:43
  Nice. I do keep these three books on
• 2:25:45
  my desk. And yeah, so, yeah, I mean, so
• 2:25:55
  it was it's it was like. Godzilla and he got ATV from not
• 2:26:03
  even a family member, some old lady who's friends with his
• 2:26:07
  grandmother. Oh, that.
• 2:26:09
  That's sweet. Oh, and then I also, you might
• 2:26:15
  remember my folks were in Italy for two months and I got some
• 2:26:19
  really nice handmade dress shirts.
• 2:26:23
  Or I guess one of which I'm wearing.
• 2:26:26
  There you go. So that was nice.
• 2:26:28
  And then just because my dad, just because my stepdad and I
• 2:26:33
  had kind of have a quirky sense of humor, he got me this really
• 2:26:37
  nice bot opener and the shape of a tie so and I and I gave him
• 2:26:49
  back his bot opener today, which I've which I was keeping in my
• 2:26:53
  drawer so. Yeah, I.
• 2:26:58
  Basically got clothes, I got a pair of shoes and the one thing
• 2:27:02
  that was very nice actually was my mother-in-law gave me and my
• 2:27:08
  wife each a mug and they were basically my father in law's two
• 2:27:12
  favorite mugs. And the one I got his Santa mug,
• 2:27:15
  which was his like all time favorite 'cause he collected
• 2:27:17
  Santa stuff, yes, even off his house was full of Christmas
• 2:27:22
  stuff year round. He was that guy.
• 2:27:25
  He loved his. He called them.
• 2:27:27
  He collected Santa's stuff, and he called them his Ho Hos.
• 2:27:32
  Oh, that's that's funny. And you mentioned you got joy
• 2:27:38
  from gifting your son that Godzilla.
• 2:27:40
  Well, I got joy from gifting my mom Elon Musk's biography.
• 2:27:49
  If if you think I'm an Elon Musk, Stan or Simp, which I
• 2:27:54
  admittedly am, she is even more so.
• 2:27:58
  And she's she's one of those people where she's notoriously
• 2:28:02
  hard to buy for. I immediately knew that I had to
• 2:28:07
  get it, But was sold. It was sold out.
• 2:28:10
  So I had to wait until October to get it for and because I knew
• 2:28:18
  if I waited, it would sell out for the holidays.
• 2:28:21
  And sure enough, it did. And the smile that she got, that
• 2:28:29
  she had on her face when she opened it, That in and of itself
• 2:28:33
  was a gift. Just the the smile.
• 2:28:39
  So, Morpheus says. I got my I.
• 2:28:45
  Got joy from gifting my mom a car Slash portable, pistol safe
• 2:28:53
  based and Morpheus. Austin says that he.
• 2:28:58
  Got a a? Blue Yeti Mic.
• 2:29:04
  Which I would when he's getting on this show with us and the
• 2:29:08
  Lego fenders. Yes, the the Lego Strat build.
• 2:29:11
  Set. I saw him post that picture.
• 2:29:13
  That's pretty cool. I liked as a bit of a guitar
• 2:29:16
  guy. I kind of like that and and
• 2:29:19
  Morpheus I I would, I would actually show my Yeti that I
• 2:29:22
  have. Because it's not here on my
• 2:29:27
  desk, but need us to say it's so heavy that that yeah, it's hard.
• 2:29:37
  To lift. One of those things.
• 2:29:39
  And he got joy from gifting his mom a car slash portable pistol
• 2:29:43
  safe. My.
• 2:29:44
  Stepfather is very anti very is capitalized anti gun.
• 2:29:48
  So I got double Joy based, you know?
• 2:29:52
  Yeah, you gotta piss off people. Just the little the little
• 2:29:57
  subtle ways. That you can.
• 2:29:59
  For your own amusement sometimes.
• 2:30:00
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:30:05
  Thankfully, thankfully. Everyone in my household mostly
• 2:30:08
  agrees on stuff, so except there there's one relative who is
• 2:30:19
  like. Die Hard isn't a Christmas
• 2:30:21
  movie. So of.
• 2:30:23
  Course, I had to troll that person by insisting that Die
• 2:30:26
  Hard is not only a Christmas movie, but it's but it's the
• 2:30:30
  best Christmas movie ever made. So there you go.
• 2:30:35
  I I've always believed that. A clockwork.
• 2:30:40
  Orange is a Christmas. Movie.
• 2:30:45
  I'm not. Is there a Christmas scene in
• 2:30:49
  there? I can't.
• 2:30:50
  Remember. Yeah, there's snow in one scene,
• 2:30:54
  so it's a Christmas movie. Fair.
• 2:30:57
  Fair enough. Anything can be a Christmas
• 2:31:01
  movie. If you watch it on Christmas,
• 2:31:05
  well. Right.
• 2:31:06
  Sorry. Well, I I'm not.
• 2:31:08
  I mean. I'm not sure that like a.
• 2:31:10
  Clockwork. Work.
• 2:31:11
  Orange. Is the like, oh, I remember that
• 2:31:15
  is what I wanted to bring up Sam.
• 2:31:16
  I remember yes. I fucking can of worms and I'm.
• 2:31:20
  Glad that it's just us, because they.
• 2:31:23
  'D probably. Get.
• 2:31:24
  You know, be weirded out, but there's this whole merch scam.
• 2:31:27
  Have you heard about this with like, the big creators and
• 2:31:30
  revolt? Yes, I.
• 2:31:34
  Yes. Also, real quick before you go
• 2:31:36
  on that I, I. Wanted to point out.
• 2:31:39
  You posted something an hour gilded about, like Hobby or me
• 2:31:43
  immediately posting the Clockwork Orange.
• 2:31:47
  Yeah, that's why I thought of that, you know?
• 2:31:49
  Yeah, I mean, he had a baseball bat in like.
• 2:31:53
  A Clockwork Orange Pose and he was doing a Kubrick.
• 2:31:55
  Stare which? By the way, means that that
• 2:31:58
  person is spiraling into insanity if they do a Kubrick
• 2:32:01
  stare. Yeah, which is pretty based, but
• 2:32:06
  it is kind of cringe. It's both.
• 2:32:08
  Right, it can be both. I I I like, I like it since
• 2:32:12
  we're doing Clockwork Orange, Morpheus said.
• 2:32:14
  But is the movie. Taking place during the
• 2:32:17
  Christmas season. Max, actually, Because it is
• 2:32:22
  because there is a fucking, what, eight years when he's in
• 2:32:27
  prison, right? So it takes.
• 2:32:31
  Place over the course of A. Decade.
• 2:32:32
  So there's like 10 Christmas seasons.
• 2:32:35
  So it's 10 times. Oh, Christmas movie over.
• 2:32:40
  But yeah, he said, he watched. Coffeezilla.
• 2:32:41
  I knew Coffeezilla was doing a big.
• 2:32:44
  Thing on this, it's. So there's this merch company
• 2:32:47
  Revolt, and it's basically just like the CEO spent all his money
• 2:32:51
  on essentially hookers and blow. I think it was like fancy
• 2:32:54
  restaurants and private jets or whatever.
• 2:32:56
  And he didn't pay any of the people that he did merch for and
• 2:33:00
  they didn't even fulfil a lot of the orders.
• 2:33:02
  Essentially is the scam. And then they were up charging
• 2:33:08
  vendors more than cost. And I think it that's an
• 2:33:12
  interesting wrinkle to me because a lot of people don't
• 2:33:15
  realize this. Now, Sam, you're a music, you
• 2:33:18
  like music, right? Have you noticed that banned
• 2:33:21
  merchandise, maybe you don't go to a lot of concerts, but banned
• 2:33:24
  merchandise is so much more expensive now, not even in in
• 2:33:29
  track with inflation, than it was before the the pandemic.
• 2:33:33
  It's it's funny that you say that because, well, I might not
• 2:33:36
  go to a lot of concerts. I do tend to go.
• 2:33:39
  Online and try and shop like in support bands.
• 2:33:42
  I like online and even that without like just basic prices
• 2:33:49
  on my T-shirts and whatnot, that's expensive.
• 2:33:55
  So they're already I understand market but like and actually
• 2:33:58
  that's. The.
• 2:33:59
  The irony I can get. To there is that's.
• 2:34:02
  The best way to actually. Support the band is what you're
• 2:34:04
  doing, buying online. So what's what's happened
• 2:34:08
  recently? You know, I follow like the
• 2:34:11
  music industry to some degree. Ronnie, I think it's Ronnie
• 2:34:14
  Radka. He's in a band.
• 2:34:16
  I don't remember the name of them.
• 2:34:19
  It's one of those modern metal bands that I'm just kind of not
• 2:34:22
  familiar with. It's not even not a band.
• 2:34:25
  But he did something interesting.
• 2:34:27
  He went up on stage at the Armory in Minnesota,
• 2:34:31
  Minneapolis, and he said he was the headlining band of the the
• 2:34:37
  card, right? And he he didn't, he said.
• 2:34:39
  I don't have merchandise tonight.
• 2:34:41
  I know you, a lot of you guys noticed.
• 2:34:43
  The reason for that is because the venue wanted a 25% cut of
• 2:34:50
  the merchandise and that's on top of the cut from the supply
• 2:34:53
  chain and that's on top of the cut from the people.
• 2:34:55
  Transporting. The merchandise and that's on
• 2:34:57
  cut from the people producing the merchandise and that's on
• 2:34:59
  cut from and on and on and on. And so at the end of the day, a
• 2:35:04
  lot of these artists that are selling band T-shirts, you might
• 2:35:07
  think to yourself, holy shit. 60.
• 2:35:09
  Dollars for AT shirt. They have to do that.
• 2:35:14
  They have to do that because the right off the bat takes. 15
• 2:35:17
  bucks. Right off the bat.
• 2:35:19
  The venue. For nothing.
• 2:35:21
  For just being there. Now there's.
• 2:35:23
  That's not entirely true, right? I was never like a tour manager
• 2:35:28
  or anything, so I don't know all the insurance and outs of how
• 2:35:31
  that works. But I've seen, you know, I've
• 2:35:33
  dealt with like the merch guys and stuff and it it's a lot of
• 2:35:36
  moving stuff around. You get a clear stuff, there's
• 2:35:39
  all these hurdles and then each venue's different.
• 2:35:41
  Another thing you might not know do do you know about price
• 2:35:45
  matching? This is an interesting
• 2:35:47
  phenomenon. So, yeah, a little bit, Yeah,
• 2:35:53
  so. Basically a.
• 2:35:54
  Headline band on the tour is going to set.
• 2:35:58
  The merch prices for their merchandise that gets sold
• 2:36:01
  right? And so let's say.
• 2:36:03
  They set. $45.00 a T-shirt and $60.00 for a hoodie, right?
• 2:36:08
  And let's say you're the opening band and you're Nobody really
• 2:36:12
  knows who you are. You're getting your feet under
• 2:36:14
  you. You might not even have a.
• 2:36:15
  Record out yet or. Whatever.
• 2:36:17
  And you're trying to you want. If they hear you, you want them
• 2:36:20
  to buy your merch and you just have 10 T-shirts.
• 2:36:24
  So let's say you want to sell those 10 T-shirts at $15 a pop.
• 2:36:27
  The main tour manager or someone from the band is going to say,
• 2:36:31
  Hey bro, you have to price match.
• 2:36:36
  You have to sell your shit for the same price that we sell our
• 2:36:39
  shit for. Why?
• 2:36:41
  Because. You're undercutting us, so
• 2:36:44
  they're essentially the headline bands want their.
• 2:36:46
  Shirt to get. Sold the most.
• 2:36:47
  And there's nothing wrong with that, inherently right.
• 2:36:50
  It's their tour, It's their house, their rules.
• 2:36:53
  But what they're saying is, is that you selling it at $15.
• 2:36:57
  They're worried that a guy is going to come and buy two of
• 2:36:59
  your shirts instead of one of theirs.
• 2:37:02
  You're undercutting them right now.
• 2:37:05
  That sounds silly if you think about it for a.
• 2:37:07
  Second, because you didn't. Come there to see the fucking
• 2:37:09
  opening act, right? And a lot of times people are
• 2:37:12
  willing to pay a couple extra bucks for a tour T-shirt, 'cause
• 2:37:14
  they know it goes mostly to the band, right?
• 2:37:18
  In fact, merchandise, the best way to support any band you like
• 2:37:21
  is not even to not subscribe to Spotify, not fucking buy their
• 2:37:25
  albums, but actually buy their merchandise and specifically at
• 2:37:29
  their tour. So when these tour companies and
• 2:37:32
  venues are because there's tour companies on top of it, there's
• 2:37:35
  companies that are taking 30% cut.
• 2:37:38
  So when you think about it, at the end of the day, this band
• 2:37:43
  and the reason I bring it all back to the scam with these Mr.
• 2:37:47
  Beast and all. These other creators and
• 2:37:48
  Coffeezilla made a. Video on it.
• 2:37:50
  The scam that they're doing on the T-shirts is nothing compared
• 2:37:54
  to what the average music industry is doing with the tour
• 2:37:57
  band T-shirts. And the person they're hurting
• 2:37:59
  the most is all these bands that tour for a living.
• 2:38:02
  You know, a lot of people think that the music industry is full
• 2:38:05
  of like, these rich rock stars. And you might be right if you're
• 2:38:09
  talking about the radio number one single guys, OK.
• 2:38:12
  But a lot of metal bands, in particular in rock bands now,
• 2:38:15
  their margin for living is not exactly great, especially in if
• 2:38:20
  they if you're in a younger band and you're just getting started
• 2:38:22
  out and by making them price match like that, they can't even
• 2:38:28
  sell those $15 T. Shirts whereas.
• 2:38:30
  If they did that, they might take home a couple 100 bucks to
• 2:38:32
  pay their rent. Now they're going to sell two or
• 2:38:36
  three T-shirts at 45 bucks and maybe they get a higher per
• 2:38:41
  sale, but they're going to get less sales.
• 2:38:42
  And usually the bulk of sales is how they make the merchandise in
• 2:38:46
  these opening no name bands because you're hoping this is
• 2:38:49
  what it is. You're hoping that you performed
• 2:38:52
  a good enough concert as the opener that they'll go buy your
• 2:38:55
  T-shirt because they've never heard of you.
• 2:38:57
  In most cases, well, no. It's the same as the main band,
• 2:39:02
  right? Why don't you?
• 2:39:04
  Just buy the main band. You already paid.
• 2:39:06
  Like 80? Dollars to go see that the
• 2:39:07
  ticket prices, we can do ticket prices on a whole episode.
• 2:39:10
  I'll get into how they're screwing you on ticket prices
• 2:39:13
  now and that you shouldn't be going to these live events at
• 2:39:15
  all. And really, if you want to
• 2:39:17
  support bands, just buy their Merck online.
• 2:39:20
  Don't go to these mega concerts that they throw anymore because
• 2:39:23
  they're fucking everybody. The ticket holders, the bands,
• 2:39:26
  everybody. It's just an absolute mess.
• 2:39:28
  But just the merch sales stuff, it's actually really difficult
• 2:39:34
  to have like a decent merch distribution line for a band
• 2:39:39
  that moves the fucking product. That's the tough part to have it
• 2:39:42
  at the shows. So Ronnie said Ronnie Radcliffe
• 2:39:46
  from God, I feel bad that I don't know his band name, but he
• 2:39:51
  said we're not selling merch tonight at all.
• 2:39:54
  And if you want to buy a tour shirt you can go to the website,
• 2:39:56
  You'll get it a lot cheaper because they're taking 25
• 2:39:59
  percent. 25% is extortionate essentially, is what he said.
• 2:40:03
  And he said fuck the venue, fuck you will never play here again.
• 2:40:07
  On and on and on. Now is 25% extortionate.
• 2:40:13
  Yes, it actually is, but would it surprise you to?
• 2:40:18
  Know that the. Average rate, give or take is
• 2:40:20
  20. A venue takes. 20% on average
• 2:40:24
  from every band and every show. That one didn't surprise me at
• 2:40:27
  all. But yeah, I mean, I like and
• 2:40:29
  from the gate as well. Yeah, I mean, like I I've like,
• 2:40:34
  I've heard. As you know I've I have.
• 2:40:37
  Friends who are in the in The, Who are in the indie, you know,
• 2:40:42
  music scene, even with them venues, you know, rip off, rip
• 2:40:48
  them off on merch and whatnot, which is literally like, that's
• 2:40:52
  like ripping the heart of your income for any indie musician or
• 2:40:56
  midstream. Like people.
• 2:40:57
  There's mainstream. Like Jay ZS not worried about
• 2:41:00
  this problem. Fucking.
• 2:41:02
  You know what I mean? The big, big people aren't.
• 2:41:03
  But like the midstream, the people that you might have heard
• 2:41:06
  of like, band on the radio are struggling.
• 2:41:11
  Yeah. No.
• 2:41:12
  Well, it's it's funny you're bringing this up because my my
• 2:41:15
  friend Eric. During our interview he brought
• 2:41:20
  up, he brought up that he's friends with the guys from from
• 2:41:23
  the band Shinedown. And Shinedown is a pretty well
• 2:41:27
  known band, but they make they're not shitting on
• 2:41:32
  Shinedown. They make a good living, but
• 2:41:34
  they're one of those bands. That.
• 2:41:36
  If you. Screwed them for an entire tour
• 2:41:39
  on their merch sales. Their kids would have a shittier
• 2:41:42
  Christmas. They're not rich.
• 2:41:44
  Yeah. No, no, that's that's
• 2:41:46
  specifically why that's specifically why bring them up
• 2:41:48
  is because. Yeah, they are.
• 2:41:50
  A really good band. They have mortgages, not
• 2:41:52
  mansions, you know? Yeah, most musicians.
• 2:41:57
  Who do that as a career are what you might consider.
• 2:41:59
  Working. Class.
• 2:42:02
  And I know that's hard for people to kind of grasp because,
• 2:42:05
  like the allure of the rock. Stars but it's It's A at.
• 2:42:08
  The end of the day, it's like a fun job, but it's a job.
• 2:42:12
  And it's a job that not everybody gets to be the CEO of,
• 2:42:16
  right? Well, that.
• 2:42:18
  That's the same thing with. That's the same thing with
• 2:42:20
  authors in the field that you know.
• 2:42:22
  I'm in like people. Like, yeah, it's like, I think
• 2:42:26
  makes a lot of money, but your average guy doesn't make nearly.
• 2:42:29
  That. Not even remotely.
• 2:42:32
  Yeah, well, that's that's the thing, too.
• 2:42:34
  Like, people think that. Oh, I got.
• 2:42:36
  Signed into I. Got I got signed in on to Simon
• 2:42:40
  and Schuster. I've got like, I missed your
• 2:42:44
  money bags. I've got money rolling in.
• 2:42:46
  No, As we Sometimes people lie about being signed to Penguin.
• 2:42:50
  But that's a whole different thing.
• 2:42:53
  Well, yeah. Well, yeah, there's there's,
• 2:42:56
  there's that too. But the funny part is.
• 2:42:58
  In in regards to Penguin. Right.
• 2:43:00
  They just kind of had a lawsuit around the same.
• 2:43:03
  Time that that whole thing happened that I mentioned.
• 2:43:05
  And Penguin. It came out in the lawsuit that
• 2:43:08
  90% of the authors signed with Penguin Publishing.
• 2:43:11
  So less than 12 books, right? Yeah, a lot of the artistic
• 2:43:17
  field is the starving. Artist.
• 2:43:19
  But then there's a you. Know because people always see
• 2:43:21
  it like. That there's the starving artist
• 2:43:23
  and the absolute rock star. But most of the industry is like
• 2:43:28
  Tex studio, musicians, sound guys, Merc guys, tour guys,
• 2:43:32
  band. Members who have been in. 15
• 2:43:34
  different bands and or they fill in for famous bands like tour
• 2:43:38
  tour musicians, right. You know about tour musicians?
• 2:43:40
  That's a tough job. A lot of time.
• 2:43:43
  Yeah, tough job. Sometimes it'll be your tour
• 2:43:46
  musician for a band that doesn't have a band.
• 2:43:49
  Kid. Rock's a good example of that,
• 2:43:51
  right? He'll pick up a bunch of tour
• 2:43:52
  musicians. Does he pick the same guys a lot
• 2:43:54
  of the time? Yeah, he does, right.
• 2:43:57
  But if you're that tour musician, you ain't making Kid
• 2:43:59
  Rock money. He takes care of his people.
• 2:44:01
  I'm not saying he doesn't, but you're it's still almost like a
• 2:44:04
  A. You're like upper middle class.
• 2:44:07
  You're not wealthy. You make a kid, I mean and but
• 2:44:12
  it gets cut into real easily because this year kid.
• 2:44:14
  Rock ain't going. Out on tour?
• 2:44:16
  And now the. That one country band that you
• 2:44:19
  play with 50, you know times before they're not out on tour.
• 2:44:23
  And so who, what band can I get in?
• 2:44:25
  And maybe then you get in with this band that needed a fucking
• 2:44:28
  guitarist, but it turns out they don't like your style.
• 2:44:30
  And so halfway through the tour you go home and at the end of
• 2:44:33
  the year you don't have as much money this fucking year.
• 2:44:35
  And that's the average struggle of most of the music industry.
• 2:44:39
  Well, and that's why. And we can talk about this now
• 2:44:43
  we're here on Rumble. I mean COVID, I I had to.
• 2:44:47
  You know, Sam, why are you still talking about COVID?
• 2:44:50
  COVID was devastating for people.
• 2:44:54
  Any bands, any rock wrestling, just almost in general it.
• 2:44:59
  Almost it. It got.
• 2:45:00
  To the point WWE was in trouble it well, yeah, and it even
• 2:45:05
  killed any live entertainment. Theaters are closing comedy.
• 2:45:09
  Comedy. Yeah, everything.
• 2:45:11
  And that and but now a lot. Of the people are.
• 2:45:14
  Basically, like we now know that because we were closed for so
• 2:45:18
  long, we can gouge up the price. This is why they're charging
• 2:45:21
  more for renting halls for shows.
• 2:45:25
  They're charging more for supposed damages if you let them
• 2:45:30
  handle your merch rather. So there's two kinds of merch
• 2:45:33
  you can sell as a band at a venue, right?
• 2:45:35
  There's where you guys handle it yourselves, self sell and then
• 2:45:39
  there's venue sell where the venue, they have their
• 2:45:42
  concession stands built in and you just put your merch over
• 2:45:44
  there. When you do the venue sell, 25%
• 2:45:48
  becomes like 40, right? And that's on top.
• 2:45:52
  Again. To get this stuff to a venue.
• 2:45:55
  To get your equipment to a venue.
• 2:45:57
  To get your people to a venue. You have truck drivers that
• 2:46:00
  you've hired. You have techs, You have
• 2:46:02
  engineers, You have sound guys. You have a guy whose whole job
• 2:46:05
  is to carry your Merc boxes out of a truck and bring them in at
• 2:46:09
  every fucking stop. That guy's getting paid too, and
• 2:46:12
  he's getting paid on your dime because he's your roadie.
• 2:46:15
  Yeah, the the the industry is fucking brutal, man.
• 2:46:20
  It's actually so brutal, So. So getting back to this gaming
• 2:46:25
  thing though, because. Someone.
• 2:46:26
  Asked and chat like how does this?
• 2:46:28
  Relate to YouTube because it's a merch problem across the board
• 2:46:36
  there. That's what this company is.
• 2:46:39
  This Revolt company is doing that too.
• 2:46:43
  They're. Putting their own.
• 2:46:45
  Cost marking up the cost and they're doing essentially
• 2:46:48
  nothing. They're not move.
• 2:46:50
  That's why I wanted to point out all the different things you
• 2:46:52
  have to account for as a band. They're supposed to be doing all
• 2:46:56
  of that. This revolt company and instead,
• 2:46:59
  not only did they not do all that, they're stiffing people on
• 2:47:03
  the money that they actually earned on sales.
• 2:47:05
  They're just saying we don't have any money that.
• 2:47:13
  I. Mean.
• 2:47:13
  I know it's not Sam we're talking.
• 2:47:15
  Sam to the. Tune of like.
• 2:47:16
  I believe it's like 14. $1,000,000 total.
• 2:47:20
  That we know of. Holy shit.
• 2:47:22
  Yeah. And that's just the people
• 2:47:24
  willing to talk on or off the record.
• 2:47:27
  With coffee zilla. And some other.
• 2:47:28
  Guys, 'cause he? Wasn't the 1st to cover?
• 2:47:30
  This. He's the 1st to do a big YouTube
• 2:47:32
  video on it though, and he's usually really thorough about
• 2:47:34
  it. But yeah, they're they're
• 2:47:38
  jacking up the price on all this merch and and.
• 2:47:42
  They're. Jacking up the prices internally
• 2:47:44
  as well. So they're actually charging Mr.
• 2:47:46
  Beast and all these people more and then not delivering and then
• 2:47:50
  not paying them. So they take a huger cut to
• 2:47:56
  start with, but then they. Never pay you, so they took all
• 2:47:59
  your money in the end anyway. I guess that's the only
• 2:48:02
  difference between them and all these, like, gouging promoters.
• 2:48:06
  And another one, don't go buy your favorite band's merchandise
• 2:48:10
  at Walmart. You know how much they get off
• 2:48:12
  of that? Zero.
• 2:48:14
  It's usually a bootleg. It's not real.
• 2:48:16
  It's not official and endorsed. And even if it is.
• 2:48:20
  They're not. You're not seeing a cent off of
• 2:48:22
  it. Yeah, I know.
• 2:48:25
  I I. If you want to support a band.
• 2:48:28
  Buy their T-shirt directly. From their website or when
• 2:48:32
  they're. On tour, 'cause if they have
• 2:48:33
  Merck on tour, it's 'cause they want you to buy it.
• 2:48:36
  And even if the venue is taking like a criminally over the top
• 2:48:41
  cut, it's still the best money they're getting.
• 2:48:44
  So if you want to help a band, that's the way to do it.
• 2:48:45
  And I would say the same with a YouTube.
• 2:48:47
  Except here. Here you have a problem is that
• 2:48:50
  now they're merch distributor. Because this is a way a lot of
• 2:48:52
  Youtubers make their money now, right?
• 2:48:54
  And we've been saying from the beginning, we'd rather sell you
• 2:48:56
  something than just sit here and be like, oh please, you know,
• 2:49:01
  merge it out for fucking donations.
• 2:49:03
  Not that we. Aren't not that you can't super
• 2:49:06
  chat in or whatever, but we're not you know the the primary
• 2:49:09
  focus is you selling a book. So it's like merchandise sales
• 2:49:14
  is the way that these online creators can sell their money
• 2:49:17
  and they. Can't even.
• 2:49:18
  Trust the distribution methods at all.
• 2:49:21
  And that's that's a pretty tough situation.
• 2:49:26
  Yeah, Spring sucks. Teespring kind of sucks.
• 2:49:29
  But here's the thing. Teespring will at.
• 2:49:31
  Least. Follow through on your orders,
• 2:49:35
  Yeah. And that that is that is one
• 2:49:37
  thing I and look, I I. They'll.
• 2:49:41
  Pay you? Yeah, I actually I.
• 2:49:45
  I did use Teespring A. While ago up.
• 2:49:48
  Until they banned one of my designs for whatever reason.
• 2:49:54
  I don't know it it was original. But no, I mean that that's,
• 2:50:03
  that's the other thing too, is like a lot of people.
• 2:50:07
  They think that. They think they.
• 2:50:08
  Make a lot of money off of ad revenue, but in reality you only
• 2:50:12
  make like $0.03. Yeah, and the and the.
• 2:50:15
  The entertainment business is a business and you got to find the
• 2:50:19
  ways. To run it properly, right.
• 2:50:21
  And a lot of people get into this and it's great to have a
• 2:50:25
  service that provides Merck stuff for you like that, right.
• 2:50:28
  But what it basically amounted to is, is this one guy running
• 2:50:32
  the company took advantage of a bunch of people that don't know
• 2:50:35
  how to run their business and said, I'll run your business for
• 2:50:38
  you and took all their money. Yeah.
• 2:50:42
  Be very careful if they're if they're going to run your
• 2:50:44
  business for you, especially with.
• 2:50:46
  Merck Sales I've. Seen and and this is.
• 2:50:48
  Why I have to relate it to the music industry because it's the
• 2:50:50
  closest I I have right to tell you about all the predatory
• 2:50:55
  things that go on. But I've seen people get stiffed
• 2:50:57
  on their Merck money. Absolutely.
• 2:50:59
  You know a venue owner when you do a venue sell, just decides
• 2:51:04
  for. The night he ain't.
• 2:51:05
  Giving you your cut, What are you going?
• 2:51:06
  To do about it, you're you're the fucking, you're the fucking
• 2:51:09
  opening band. You're not even on the tour.
• 2:51:12
  You're just they hired you for this one fucking show in this
• 2:51:14
  one city because it's where you're from.
• 2:51:16
  What are you going to do about it, tough guy?
• 2:51:20
  Not much, right? Nothing you can do.
• 2:51:22
  Also the owner. Also the owner of the venue is.
• 2:51:25
  Like, I mean nobody. Says it but.
• 2:51:27
  Everybody knows he's tied to the mob.
• 2:51:29
  What are you going to do? You take the fucking L?
• 2:51:32
  Well, that that's the life of a fucking indie band, and I hate
• 2:51:36
  that. That's basically what's going on
• 2:51:37
  with. Creators.
• 2:51:38
  On other. Platforms.
• 2:51:39
  Too Now is the Merck people. They don't have to be the actual
• 2:51:42
  mob. They're still going to steal
• 2:51:44
  your fucking money. Well, and that.
• 2:51:46
  That and folks like a lot. A lot of people ask, like, why
• 2:51:49
  don't we? Why don't?
• 2:51:50
  We put out. Merch.
• 2:51:52
  Yet part of it is, Part of it is.
• 2:51:56
  We may be a little lazy, but another part of it is we
• 2:51:59
  actually want to find like a good merch distributor, if
• 2:52:05
  that's even possible. It's tough.
• 2:52:08
  I'll tell you, it's really tough because a lot of the ones like
• 2:52:11
  like Teespring. It.
• 2:52:13
  Has the benefit of they will deliver, but it has the downside
• 2:52:17
  of that their Merc is terrible. Their T-shirts are like, poorly
• 2:52:22
  made. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:52:25
  And and I just think. That our fans don't want
• 2:52:29
  something that's going to rub off if they fucking.
• 2:52:32
  Pay for it. But at the same time, the one
• 2:52:35
  like maybe, maybe because there's people listening at this
• 2:52:39
  point we've been talking for almost 3 hours, would be maybe
• 2:52:42
  the people interested in the merchandise.
• 2:52:43
  So let me tell you the fucking dilemma, All right, gentlemen,
• 2:52:46
  is that what's your price range? How about that?
• 2:52:49
  Leave a comment if you're hearing this and you're
• 2:52:51
  interested in buying merch. I'll tell you.
• 2:52:54
  Here's some options. If we go with Teespring, I can
• 2:52:57
  get them under 20. Dollars you can have.
• 2:52:59
  Whitfield Report shirt. But when you wash that bitch,
• 2:53:02
  it's going to start fading off, OK?
• 2:53:07
  And it'll put money in Sam's pocket and maybe it'll be 20.
• 2:53:09
  It's like 15. Bucks at cost.
• 2:53:11
  And we'll. Maybe put?
• 2:53:12
  5 towards towards Sam, right, right, because that's the whole
• 2:53:16
  point is to make a profit. So we'll try and get them to you
• 2:53:18
  at like a $20, you know, price point, right?
• 2:53:21
  But then your shirt's going to fall apart and you're going to
• 2:53:23
  be like this was a fucking waste of money.
• 2:53:26
  Alternatively, OK, we could go with something a little more
• 2:53:29
  premium. OK, but you're going to?
• 2:53:32
  Pay. More for a shirt.
• 2:53:33
  And it's not even going to be like Sam will still get that
• 2:53:36
  same $5 cut, but the shirt's going to cost 40.
• 2:53:39
  But it'll be a nice shirt. That's the dilemma that we face.
• 2:53:44
  So would you, would you guys rather look at the $20?
• 2:53:47
  Range for a T-shirt. Or the?
• 2:53:48
  $40 range for a good T-shirt. Leave your thoughts in the
• 2:53:53
  comments section down below and like comment and.
• 2:53:56
  Subscribe. Yes, and please, please,
• 2:53:59
  unironically let us know yeah, no 'cause I'm dead serious.
• 2:54:03
  That's the hold up. I might as well just tell.
• 2:54:05
  I might as well just level with them if.
• 2:54:07
  They're listening now. They're like our most loyal
• 2:54:09
  fans, right? I'm telling you right now, the
• 2:54:12
  dilemma about Merck for me has been do we want the $20 shitty
• 2:54:16
  T-shirt that's going to fall apart on you?
• 2:54:18
  But you canmore afford it because we're not trying to ask
• 2:54:20
  you to spend a million fucking dollars on on some shit to
• 2:54:23
  support the show, right? We live in goddamn Biden
• 2:54:26
  economy. But on the other hand, the
• 2:54:28
  $40.45, it might even be 45. I'm not going to lie, T-shirt
• 2:54:34
  will get delivered to you is guaranteed will be of higher
• 2:54:38
  quality, but it's going to be expensive and that's 45 by the
• 2:54:43
  way for the shirt before. Tax.
• 2:54:45
  And before. Shipping and handling.
• 2:54:47
  So how do I drop that bomb on the audience?
• 2:54:49
  I just kind of didn't make the decision.
• 2:54:54
  So yeah, if you have feedback on that, let me.
• 2:54:56
  Know well and and I and listen. Everything Max is saying I can
• 2:55:00
  Co sign and and look I've. Talked.
• 2:55:03
  To We have shark designs. We have shark designs well and I
• 2:55:07
  and I've also asked like. People on.
• 2:55:10
  Twitter like what I was going to.
• 2:55:11
  Do what? I was going to do with the shirt
• 2:55:13
  design, Sam, is that when we finally decided?
• 2:55:17
  On on a distributor in the in the price point I was going to
• 2:55:20
  have them vote on Twitter or whatever.
• 2:55:22
  Here's all the designs that we got, you know, top two, get in
• 2:55:25
  or whatever. And because I think it would be
• 2:55:29
  important for us to just have like one or two T-shirt.
• 2:55:32
  Designs. Rather than a whole slew of
• 2:55:34
  them, right, at least at 1st. And so that was the plan and I
• 2:55:40
  was going to. Show everybody my.
• 2:55:41
  Wife has made some that I've kept on file.
• 2:55:44
  I have some ideas for shit. We were going to have a whole
• 2:55:46
  bunch when and then and then. We were even going to ask for
• 2:55:48
  user submissions and have a pull.
• 2:55:51
  But it's tough to decide whether I is it reasonable for us to ask
• 2:55:55
  them to pay $20.00 for something that I personally think is of
• 2:56:00
  poor quality or almost 50 and probably after shipping in tax
• 2:56:05
  over 50? Well, the other thing too.
• 2:56:08
  Like for me is like I've asked. The book is such.
• 2:56:11
  A good fit guys. Because.
• 2:56:12
  It's under 20. Bucks you can get the book
• 2:56:14
  right. We're trying to be.
• 2:56:17
  We understood, you know, like we're not the most important
• 2:56:20
  thing in your life. The the book.
• 2:56:24
  You should turn it off now. Go.
• 2:56:27
  Find Jesus or something. After.
• 2:56:32
  After. After after the show is done.
• 2:56:35
  Though turn the, turn the. Program off after after.
• 2:56:38
  The show. Is on.
• 2:56:38
  No. But like this thing is like this
• 2:56:42
  thing is still $10. And yeah, but also it's like the
• 2:56:49
  the cover is actually like solid.
• 2:56:52
  You know, the paper is actually like solid.
• 2:56:55
  You know, I mean it's a books, but still it's like quality
• 2:56:59
  book, right, Of a certain standard.
• 2:57:01
  And that's what I'm saying. I did a run and This is why.
• 2:57:05
  I have this problem Sam is I did a run AT shirts you may remember
• 2:57:09
  for Internet Scumbag and no. Oh, I have one.
• 2:57:16
  Still over here? Somewhere my.
• 2:57:18
  Internet. Scumbag but the problem is is.
• 2:57:21
  It immediately faded off, and as soon as I got it, I only wore it
• 2:57:24
  once, which he wouldn't wear. Internet scumbag in public
• 2:57:28
  generally anyway, so it's not that big a deal.
• 2:57:30
  That wasn't why I bought it, right?
• 2:57:31
  And it wasn't when I had the shirt made.
• 2:57:33
  We had the shirt made so that people would send them to Dave
• 2:57:36
  and Ethan Ralph, and they did. So that's funny.
• 2:57:39
  But they fell apart. They were cheap and I don't know
• 2:57:45
  if people are willing to pony up the.
• 2:57:46
  Money for a. Whitfield report.
• 2:57:48
  Related T-shirt I would. Hope that it would be something
• 2:57:51
  they could wear more than once. Well, well, that, well, that's
• 2:57:54
  the whole thing too, is like and also something they can wear in
• 2:57:58
  public. We're very aware of that.
• 2:58:00
  We're not going to make a design that, like, embarrasses you
• 2:58:02
  trust. Me.
• 2:58:03
  Well, well, no, that that's the whole thing is like I've talked
• 2:58:06
  to people and they're like, yeah, we would, we would
• 2:58:08
  actually. You know, rub the show like out
• 2:58:11
  in public. So yeah, like we've got, we've
• 2:58:14
  got like college age kids who would wear their shirts on
• 2:58:18
  campus. And that's why I think, like, I
• 2:58:23
  want quality, but yeah, I have to.
• 2:58:26
  Level with the audience as honest as possible.
• 2:58:28
  If you want quality. It's going to cost a bit for AT
• 2:58:31
  Shirt and 50 plus dollars. It might be a bit much for AT
• 2:58:36
  shirt. It certainly would be on my edge
• 2:58:38
  right? If Listen, listen if no
• 2:58:42
  T-shirts. And that's still kind of a lot.
• 2:58:44
  Listen if if no one. Actually wanted to wear the.
• 2:58:47
  T-shirt like. If it was just like, we'll
• 2:58:49
  support the. Show and.
• 2:58:50
  Then it'll just be my cheap work shirt, you know, or you know,
• 2:58:55
  house. Then by all means I would want.
• 2:58:58
  Then by all means I would say OK, let's just do the cheap
• 2:59:01
  shirt, but no the. But if the only point is to
• 2:59:05
  support the show, just send the Super chat for the same amount.
• 2:59:09
  You know, yeah, I want you guys. That's the point.
• 2:59:12
  We want you guys to get something for your money.
• 2:59:14
  And we also, I I don't, I don't speak for Sam, but I don't
• 2:59:18
  necessarily want to promise we'll read each and every super
• 2:59:21
  chat because we've already missed tons of them from like
• 2:59:24
  Mega News Network over the year. Well, yeah.
• 2:59:28
  I mean, yeah. Rumble, That is one thing as
• 2:59:33
  Rumble has contributor except yeah, it's it's it's him and
• 2:59:38
  then Morpheus. I think on rumble.
• 2:59:42
  Yeah, sometimes we just don't see the chat well, that well.
• 2:59:46
  That is the one feature. That like I guess YouTube has is
• 2:59:50
  like you can actually. It like.
• 2:59:53
  I guess YouTube they like collect the Super chat, so you
• 2:59:56
  can actually like see them like for a bit.
• 3:00:01
  Morpheus says he'd be good with 40 to 50 for a T-shirt.
• 3:00:05
  Wouldn't be the first time. That's.
• 3:00:07
  Good to know. You know, it's it's tough though
• 3:00:10
  where you price these things and I.
• 3:00:12
  It's also where do you draw the line and like, am I going to
• 3:00:15
  sell people fucking shit? Yeah.
• 3:00:19
  I want to be the guy that sells shitty T-shirts, especially when
• 3:00:23
  everybody's. Going to know that's my fault.
• 3:00:26
  Right. You're not.
• 3:00:28
  You don't have a shop set up, so everybody's going to.
• 3:00:31
  Know that it's the producers. Fault, right?
• 3:00:33
  And I'm just. Going to be, and I've been
• 3:00:35
  talking about it, so I don't want them to be shitty, right?
• 3:00:40
  I want to deliver for the fan base because we've had a great
• 3:00:44
  year. In.
• 3:00:45
  Going going into the next year, there's going to be T I'll tell
• 3:00:49
  you that there's going to be T-shirts in Q1 at some point.
• 3:00:56
  I I do. I do want to and I do want to
• 3:00:58
  say this for the audience. Though too that last year about.
• 3:01:01
  Summer too. But I promise this time, that's
• 3:01:04
  my New Year's resolution, ladies and.
• 3:01:06
  Gentlemen, there will be T-shirts.
• 3:01:08
  Even if we go with the cheap shit.
• 3:01:11
  I probably well, hey, I I probably can't bring myself to
• 3:01:14
  to voice that upon the audience. I I.
• 3:01:17
  Do want to I. Do want to address?
• 3:01:18
  This for the audience too. A I'm.
• 3:01:23
  Because a few of you did buy the book as like a last minute
• 3:01:27
  Christmas. Present.
• 3:01:28
  And for that I'm very thankful. Unfortunately I also am sorry
• 3:01:36
  that some of you guys waited. Till the last minute.
• 3:01:40
  And Amazon was not able to fill fill your order.
• 3:01:43
  And if you're one of those you think you went beyond the last
• 3:01:45
  minute, that is, that is not my fault if.
• 3:01:50
  You if you ordered your if you. Ordered a book on Christmas.
• 3:01:53
  Day or no Christmas Eve and was expecting it to arrive on
• 3:01:58
  Christmas Day. No one should understand their
• 3:02:02
  print to order. Yes, right and and.
• 3:02:07
  Yeah, I guess. We should apologize for any
• 3:02:10
  confusion, obviously. But yeah, they are print to
• 3:02:13
  order. They print yours specifically
• 3:02:15
  for you. So if you thought you were going
• 3:02:17
  to order it at 8:00 PM on Christmas Eve and have it under
• 3:02:20
  your tree in the morning, I I regret to inform you that's
• 3:02:24
  that's not possible. I mean, I mean, yeah, but for
• 3:02:30
  anyone who ordered on Christmas. Eve, you should have either
• 3:02:33
  received your order today or should be, you know.
• 3:02:41
  Also I I don't handle, I can't actually see anyone's credit
• 3:02:46
  card had fell or whatnot. So if for some reason your
• 3:02:50
  credit card expired or like you know whatever limit or something
• 3:02:54
  which, you know some people do during the holidays, take that
• 3:02:59
  up with Amazon. So right, I I'm, I'm just, I'm
• 3:03:05
  just letting people know. I because I got some strange,
• 3:03:09
  you know. Messages because you're.
• 3:03:10
  Yeah, because you're not the distributor of any of this.
• 3:03:13
  That's not how it works. Amazon, you wrote.
• 3:03:16
  The book. You submit the book and then
• 3:03:18
  they handle all that back end stuff.
• 3:03:19
  You don't have a hand in any of them.
• 3:03:21
  Yeah, yeah, I I I do appreciate people reaching out to me.
• 3:03:27
  To let me know. About these issues.
• 3:03:30
  We, I really do appreciate that. But and, you know, things like,
• 3:03:37
  yeah, so I I did. I did check.
• 3:03:43
  In. To you know.
• 3:03:44
  Amazon. Like, I didn't message them and
• 3:03:47
  they pretty much told me what we just told you.
• 3:03:50
  So yeah, the one, the one T-shirt.
• 3:03:53
  I was thinking that wouldn't maybe be acceptable to wear in
• 3:03:57
  public and. I want to gauge your reaction on
• 3:03:59
  this would be just hashtag pussy smoke and then on the back it
• 3:04:06
  says the Whitfield report. And you know I'll.
• 3:04:09
  See and stuff. See.
• 3:04:12
  Like I I like that. Because that would be like one
• 3:04:15
  that would. That would be one that.
• 3:04:17
  Would like start conversations like what is and then people
• 3:04:22
  would let. People would look up the hashtag
• 3:04:25
  and hopefully they would. Hopefully they would.
• 3:04:30
  Find a link to. Our show and not other things
• 3:04:35
  on. What do you think of the concept
• 3:04:37
  I just gave for AT Shirt? OK, on the front.
• 3:04:41
  It just says hashtag, pussy, smoke, and on the back it says
• 3:04:46
  the Whitfield report and all our of our socials.
• 3:04:52
  Her head is in her hands right now.
• 3:04:55
  I'm not sure what that means I. I hate that I ever.
• 3:05:02
  See. Like I you said.
• 3:05:03
  I hate that I ever. Said that because she's now
• 3:05:06
  imagining the idea the. Concept of that.
• 3:05:09
  Being on AT shirt and the fact that we had a PhD engineer on to
• 3:05:14
  discuss the dynamics of it, but like that was one of our best
• 3:05:21
  episodes. Too One of our best episodes.
• 3:05:25
  Morpheus says he'd ripped that shit.
• 3:05:29
  Yeah, but like. Morpheus.
• 3:05:31
  Also you know. That's why.
• 3:05:34
  That's why I said two designs, right?
• 3:05:37
  One design can be the offensive. Pussy smoke?
• 3:05:40
  Sure to grab somebody's attention and then we'll have.
• 3:05:44
  It's designed that you could wear in public and not
• 3:05:46
  embarrassing. I I have AI, have AI have a
• 3:05:51
  third design. That.
• 3:05:56
  That, I think would be funny, but but it would be a super meta
• 3:06:01
  kind of joke, too. Just gay porn.
• 3:06:03
  I was thinking of that too. It would just no, no.
• 3:06:06
  But 'cause that's something that.
• 3:06:08
  Comes up on the show. No, but no, I didn't mean.
• 3:06:13
  Actual porn. I meant the word not.
• 3:06:15
  Porn and then the same way. Not to.
• 3:06:18
  Not well not to dissimilar to that I I the thought I.
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• 3:06:28
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• 3:06:30
  It's a It's a design. Idea of you know the you know
• 3:06:35
  the Obama poster you know the OK, so I I had a.
• 3:06:43
  So I had an idea where. It's a picture of you shaking
• 3:06:46
  your finger and it just and it just says Jesus is watching.
• 3:06:54
  I do tend to point at the audience a lot, but they need
• 3:06:57
  it. Somebody should.
• 3:07:02
  Do you know how effective you do?
• 3:07:04
  Me with just the finger point and the dad.
• 3:07:06
  Voice. I make other.
• 3:07:08
  People's kids. Listen.
• 3:07:13
  I I bet. I bet you do.
• 3:07:17
  They're like, yeah. He ain't.
• 3:07:18
  Fucking He got the finger going. Yeah, that's.
• 3:07:23
  All it takes by the way, gentlemen, if you want.
• 3:07:26
  To be a good father, you need your.
• 3:07:29
  I you need to practice that, you need to have it at the right
• 3:07:32
  pitch and level of. Seriousness, and you need to be.
• 3:07:35
  Able to project. It very far.
• 3:07:37
  If you can do that, every child in the vicinity will stop and
• 3:07:41
  look. And wonder if.
• 3:07:43
  They're in trouble. I do that.
• 3:07:45
  I do that to my younger siblings.
• 3:07:46
  On occasion. Actually and.
• 3:07:48
  It works. They're they're still.
• 3:07:49
  Young. Enough that it actually does
• 3:07:52
  like, oh, it works if you do, if you, if you got the base, and if
• 3:07:55
  you've got the confidence, it works on fucking full.
• 3:07:58
  Grown men, dude. Well, yeah.
• 3:08:02
  No. Also, if you're a big hairy
• 3:08:04
  giant, I suppose. That helps.
• 3:08:06
  Well. Man, when I use my.
• 3:08:08
  Dad voice on like cat ladies it it cuts to the center of their
• 3:08:15
  being. They hate that.
• 3:08:16
  So much happy. Antidote to cat ladies is dads
• 3:08:23
  so. I'm.
• 3:08:25
  Sure this is kind of off topic, but what do?
• 3:08:27
  You think of that. Whatever.
• 3:08:28
  Podcast that that like is super clickbaity and and whatnot.
• 3:08:34
  Yeah, that, that. That's what I think is like At
• 3:08:37
  first they used to do, now they do Only fans, girls.
• 3:08:40
  Right. But at first they used to just
• 3:08:41
  pick up hoes at the club. And of course a bunch of hoes
• 3:08:45
  are going to say hoe is shit and be like and have these dumb and
• 3:08:50
  they're not picking. They pick, they cherry pick the
• 3:08:53
  women who are already stupid. And then and then people are
• 3:08:57
  like, well, they make them look stupid.
• 3:08:58
  No, they make themselves look stupid because they're stupid
• 3:09:03
  because these guys are picking on just stupid women.
• 3:09:06
  And I don't find it entertaining.
• 3:09:09
  Not, not. Neither do I.
• 3:09:11
  But everyone's like, Oh my God, Sam, you and you and Mac.
• 3:09:14
  Should review whatever videos and I'm like no we've got more
• 3:09:20
  important shit to like talk to an engineer about pussy smoke
• 3:09:25
  that was way more important that that would.
• 3:09:27
  Have that's actually way that's actually Andrew Tate had.
• 3:09:31
  Been made a statement I. Saw that I had some comments on
• 3:09:34
  he. Said that, if you ever.
• 3:09:36
  Have sex in any capacity without the direct possibility or intent
• 3:09:42
  of having a child that it's gay, which is a new one.
• 3:09:47
  And all I have to say is he focuses on what is gay a lot.
• 3:09:54
  And what he says is. Gay is usually like normal male
• 3:09:57
  behavior, and I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say
• 3:10:01
  Andrew Tate is a flaming homosexual.
• 3:10:05
  Well, yeah, a lot. Allegedly.
• 3:10:08
  A lot of these. A lot of.
• 3:10:09
  These. Well, a lot of these trad live.
• 3:10:13
  People. Are allegedly a homosexual, I've
• 3:10:17
  I've noticed. Look, man, look, man, because
• 3:10:20
  what he's saying, OK, is that after you're a certain.
• 3:10:24
  Age and you're married and all that.
• 3:10:26
  That having sex with your wife is gay and only a faggot would
• 3:10:31
  say that. That's my one.
• 3:10:33
  That's my one. I get to call Andrew Tate one,
• 3:10:37
  right? Right.
• 3:10:39
  Because he is. Well.
• 3:10:41
  Listen. You also like you could also
• 3:10:44
  take Andrew Tate on. Too.
• 3:10:46
  That, that's that's what I'm saying.
• 3:10:48
  I'm up for like let's go, let's have like an exhibition match
• 3:10:51
  sometime. I think that Faggot's.
• 3:10:53
  Ass. That's two.
• 3:10:54
  I'm sorry. No, no, you it's listen, it's
• 3:11:00
  that that that's actually. My favorite My wife is wagging.
• 3:11:03
  Her finger at me. But it's Andrew Tate though, And
• 3:11:06
  having sex. With your wife, if she's gone
• 3:11:10
  past, menopause makes you. Gay.
• 3:11:16
  He says that the only way to not.
• 3:11:17
  Be gay is to have sex with the explicit.
• 3:11:22
  Intent of procreation every single time, he said.
• 3:11:25
  Condoms are gay. Yeah, so I yeah.
• 3:11:31
  So I I think I dropped my. 2F bombs.
• 3:11:33
  That's like 2 the whole year though.
• 3:11:35
  What's What's it? I I've listen, I I say that word
• 3:11:40
  like multiple. Times in my daily life, I say it
• 3:11:45
  all the time. I've just been trying to be good
• 3:11:47
  on Roma. It's been so, yeah.
• 3:11:48
  Yeah. No, I I I I'm losing.
• 3:11:50
  My past because it's Andrew Tate.
• 3:11:55
  And. He's worse than Nick Fuentes at
• 3:11:57
  this point. Because he's a man who should
• 3:12:00
  know. Better.
• 3:12:02
  The other thing too is like all. These people.
• 3:12:06
  All these. I I I went on a little.
• 3:12:08
  I went on a little rant about. This.
• 3:12:11
  Earlier. This week, all these people who
• 3:12:13
  are getting upset about the about the conservative Dad Trad
• 3:12:19
  Wife beer calendar because they don't get it's a joke, do you
• 3:12:26
  even know? Do you know what I'm talking
• 3:12:28
  about? Or do I?
• 3:12:29
  Do I? Not entirely sure.
• 3:12:31
  Go ahead. OK, so so in.
• 3:12:36
  Response to. Bud Light going gay?
• 3:12:40
  There was this. Company that decided hey we'll
• 3:12:45
  make a we'll make like a a lager for conservatives and caught
• 3:12:51
  like ultra light conservative beer.
• 3:12:53
  Now that is a little cringe in of in of itself, granted, but
• 3:12:58
  that but they're self aware about it.
• 3:13:01
  And so just like Budweiser used to do like a or no it was
• 3:13:08
  Miller. Just like Miller used to do like
• 3:13:10
  a calendar with like swimsuit models having the beer like this
• 3:13:15
  company leaning into the self-awareness thing.
• 3:13:17
  That's the conservative women thing calendar I've been seeing.
• 3:13:21
  Look, yes, yes. And and it it's I bust on people
• 3:13:26
  for. Sipping, You know, I get on.
• 3:13:29
  You I got on Morpheus. I get on your boys there.
• 3:13:32
  I get on everybody's Jimmy. Shout out to Jimmy, by the way.
• 3:13:35
  He's great. You should follow him on
• 3:13:37
  Twitter. What is it?
• 3:13:37
  Jimmy 81, I believe. Yeah.
• 3:13:42
  Good dude. Yeah, I I I must on y'all for
• 3:13:47
  simping. OK.
• 3:13:48
  But like. The idea.
• 3:13:50
  Of a fucking calendar with girls and maybe not all clothed
• 3:13:56
  perfectly to the the wearing burkas, if if that.
• 3:14:00
  Bothers you. You're 1.
• 3:14:01
  Of those things I said twice, well, well part of well part of
• 3:14:05
  though too is it's it's a it's a joke too like they're.
• 3:14:10
  They're kind of like, OK, but Alex Stein, you know, joking
• 3:14:14
  about being a drag queen by actually.
• 3:14:16
  Being a drag. Queen in front of children is
• 3:14:18
  not really. You know what I'm saying?
• 3:14:20
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• 3:14:23
  But it it's not, it becomes the point where you're not.
• 3:14:26
  Joking. You're just doing the thing, and
• 3:14:29
  their calendar is just them. Doing the thing.
• 3:14:34
  They should just embrace that. They shouldn't be bothered by
• 3:14:36
  it, they. Should like honestly.
• 3:14:38
  Yeah, this is what I mean. Like like.
• 3:14:40
  I get the. I get the moralized side of it
• 3:14:43
  to some degree of. Of.
• 3:14:44
  Conservatism. But they have to understand that
• 3:14:47
  moving forward, Millennial and beyond Kid Rock conservatism is
• 3:14:52
  a block and it's a large voting block.
• 3:14:55
  And it's a voting block, but it's the working.
• 3:14:57
  It's the working and underclass. And if you win them over, you'll
• 3:15:00
  have them for generations to come.
• 3:15:04
  Yeah, and they like a titty. Calendar sometimes and that's OK
• 3:15:11
  and. It, and that's what I'm saying,
• 3:15:14
  Like I'm wagging my finger at motherfuckers from a moralized.
• 3:15:18
  Theological. Philosophical point of view,
• 3:15:21
  right? But it absolutely shouldn't be
• 3:15:24
  like, oh, you can't look at a titty calendar like go fuck
• 3:15:27
  yourself. It it's it's not a it's a
• 3:15:30
  decision whether you want to be moral or not.
• 3:15:33
  It's not even it's. Not even that though, like.
• 3:15:36
  This there. What are there a little?
• 3:15:39
  There a little there are there are actual pictures, like women
• 3:15:45
  baking. Pies in this cow.
• 3:15:48
  Calendar though, like it is, it is funny and the fact that like
• 3:15:53
  the fact that like the moralizing right is like upset
• 3:15:56
  about that, like come on, I don't know.
• 3:16:06
  It's OK to have fun, Yeah. What a.
• 3:16:12
  Moderation in all things. Is usually key.
• 3:16:19
  Morpheus says. I'd want some sort of graphic.
• 3:16:22
  Along with the hashtag on the front.
• 3:16:24
  Oh, he's referring to pussies. Oh, we need a pussy smoke
• 3:16:30
  graphic, huh? Maybe a cat on fire?
• 3:16:37
  Yeah, yeah. There we.
• 3:16:38
  Go over, overlord on. Fire from Morpheus.
• 3:16:42
  So just the tail, just the tails on fire, yeah.
• 3:16:49
  I don't know. We'll figure it.
• 3:16:50
  Out Where's the spit balling? But no the cat.
• 3:16:55
  Should be calm. My wife asked if the cat is.
• 3:16:56
  Calm or freaking? Out.
• 3:16:58
  I think the cat should be calm. Pussy smoke shouldn't scare you.
• 3:17:02
  Actually, it should, because it kill you.
• 3:17:04
  We decided that Craig already got into that.
• 3:17:06
  OK? It should terrify you.
• 3:17:08
  Actually, the cat's going to be absolutely freaking out having a
• 3:17:12
  goddamn panic attack because he's about to get fucked.
• 3:17:16
  By by the way. Subscribe to the fake Untitled.
• 3:17:19
  Podcast. I'm.
• 3:17:21
  I'm addicted to that thing. Fucked to death.
• 3:17:27
  Sorry, I just had to repeat that really.
• 3:17:30
  Loudly for some. Reason.
• 3:17:33
  That. That's good.
• 3:17:33
  That's going. To be an isolated.
• 3:17:35
  Sound by now I know I should. You you saying that so?
• 3:17:42
  If you're not careful, you're going.
• 3:17:44
  To get fucked to death. There's a clip for you.
• 3:17:48
  You're welcome. Chat SO.
• 3:17:56
  I embarrassed my wife. Oh, what?
• 3:17:59
  011 other thing. Is.
• 3:18:03
  Game of the Year. Max, I think you already kind of
• 3:18:06
  revealed what yours is. Is it still Dave?
• 3:18:09
  The diver That's tough Game of the Year?
• 3:18:15
  World of Warcraft. Classic season of.
• 3:18:17
  Discovery Dave the Diver is the 2nd place runner up.
• 3:18:20
  OK, fair enough I would say for mine.
• 3:18:24
  RoboCop. That's a contender, for sure.
• 3:18:29
  RoboCop is my game of the year and and and I.
• 3:18:32
  Bet you going into this. Year.
• 3:18:34
  You thought Spider Man 2 would tower above that?
• 3:18:37
  RoboCop was like a second tier thought, right?
• 3:18:41
  I mean, I mean, I knew RoboCop was.
• 3:18:43
  I knew RoboCop was going to be good.
• 3:18:45
  But yeah, I I did. Think that it was going to, but
• 3:18:49
  no. RoboCop, actually.
• 3:18:50
  They nailed the atmosphere and aesthetic.
• 3:18:53
  I got to give them total credit and it's a it's.
• 3:18:55
  A more budget than most AAA games, yeah, and they had his
• 3:19:03
  real voice too. Yeah.
• 3:19:05
  Which? You know is.
• 3:19:07
  Is amazing the HUD, everything. The way he moves, you know, I
• 3:19:13
  usually complain about slow movement.
• 3:19:15
  In first person shooters, 'cause that's a modern trope, but he's
• 3:19:18
  fucking RoboCop, so it feels right.
• 3:19:21
  Yeah, yeah. And the and.
• 3:19:26
  I mean the there's deeper button to Sprint, but like who would
• 3:19:30
  use it 'cause you're RoboCop? Well, I mean.
• 3:19:35
  You use it to like dodge out of the way of grenades.
• 3:19:38
  And whatnot. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:19:39
  But it's not like you're not going to, you're not going to
• 3:19:42
  run all the time because. It's more fun to just be like,
• 3:19:49
  yeah, no doubt, yeah, it's. It's awesome World Warcraft
• 3:19:54
  season of. Discovery The reason I.
• 3:19:56
  Give the nod to. That OK is because it's sort of
• 3:19:59
  a hard. Reboot for Blizzard it this is
• 3:20:02
  the first time. In a very long time, they've
• 3:20:04
  listened to their fan base or given them anything.
• 3:20:06
  Interesting. Or fun or unique, like
• 3:20:11
  everything they put out is, by the numbers, Overwatch.
• 3:20:13
  It's just it's there. Diablo 4.
• 3:20:16
  It's just. There or bad.
• 3:20:18
  But I I don't think it's bad. I think people just played
• 3:20:21
  through everything there was and it wasn't like, Oh my God, this
• 3:20:23
  is the best game ever. Like I thought it was going to
• 3:20:25
  be. Yeah, he's been a discovery.
• 3:20:28
  If you're a Warcraft guy, is that they've they took the
• 3:20:32
  original game. For the.
• 3:20:33
  For those who don't understand the premise, it's the original
• 3:20:37
  2004 version of the game up to level 25.
• 3:20:41
  And they. Added in a whole bunch of new
• 3:20:43
  spells and abilities that you find in the world.
• 3:20:47
  And the problem with a lot of MMM OS OK, especially old ones
• 3:20:51
  like that, is we know where everything is.
• 3:20:53
  We know how to beat everything. We know how to do everything.
• 3:20:56
  And so they added in that element of finding it all again,
• 3:21:02
  communally. There was no beta.
• 3:21:03
  Tests. They just.
• 3:21:05
  Launched it and we found shit and yeah.
• 3:21:07
  Some things were. Broken or whatever.
• 3:21:10
  And then at the end at level 25 normally goes up to level 60,
• 3:21:14
  but at level 25 they added a raid in a new PvP event that are
• 3:21:19
  just for this new version of the game.
• 3:21:21
  So it's a it's a old dungeon that they've now made into A10
• 3:21:25
  player hard raid that you can do at level. 20.
• 3:21:28
  Five and get new gear that wasn't in the game, and then
• 3:21:31
  they're going to raise the level cap to 40 and 50 and 60.
• 3:21:36
  And then we're not only going to get new raids with each one of
• 3:21:39
  those, but at the end when all the regular raids from vanilla
• 3:21:42
  World of Warcraft would be, we're going to get more than
• 3:21:46
  two. So basically they're taking.
• 3:21:49
  It in a completely. Different direction, but using
• 3:21:52
  the original game mechanics that a lot of people liked.
• 3:21:55
  And the reason that Classic was a thing in the 1st place was
• 3:21:57
  people wanted to return to old World of Warcraft.
• 3:22:02
  Yeah, and. Microsoft came in.
• 3:22:07
  And told. Blizzard.
• 3:22:10
  Stop being combative with the fans.
• 3:22:12
  That was one of the bullet points of the meeting.
• 3:22:14
  Another one was to de. Emphasize their woke agenda and
• 3:22:19
  another one was they separated the three technically.
• 3:22:21
  Now the three bits of Activision Blizzard, King Abk are going to
• 3:22:26
  split again and all be separate subsidiaries of Microsoft.
• 3:22:31
  And so now Blizzard and Bobby Kotick is going to be gone at
• 3:22:34
  the end of the year. If you weren't aware the CEO of
• 3:22:36
  Activision, Microsoft is putting it's it's funny because it took
• 3:22:43
  being bought. By a bigger.
• 3:22:45
  Company to set Blizzard free again.
• 3:22:50
  Yeah, I'm hopeful for the future, but also I played the
• 3:22:54
  shit. Out of that, granted, it came
• 3:22:56
  out on November. 30th but yet it still ends up my game of the
• 3:23:00
  year. We'll see if it continues
• 3:23:02
  because again, we only got the first part.
• 3:23:05
  We haven't gotten to the level 40 and beyond yet, so maybe they
• 3:23:08
  fucked the whole thing up. But as a project, the reason is
• 3:23:11
  good is a lot of time. Problems with World of Warcraft
• 3:23:14
  for people is it takes a long time to level up.
• 3:23:17
  At level 25 you get to in about 8 hours.
• 3:23:20
  Well, well, what? Well, it's just like a normal
• 3:23:23
  action game. Length You You know what I mean.
• 3:23:28
  And. Then there's some stuff for you
• 3:23:29
  to do at the end game. And that's why I've made a bunch
• 3:23:33
  of different. Characters and and leveling
• 3:23:35
  them. I haven't been playing for the
• 3:23:37
  last week because I was playing a whole bunch of indie games and
• 3:23:40
  stuff and doing Christmas and but yeah, that's it.
• 3:23:45
  Dave. The diver, though, if you if you
• 3:23:47
  know, because not everybody's going.
• 3:23:48
  To enjoy world of. Warcraft.
• 3:23:50
  Period. So for my recommended game of
• 3:23:53
  the year for most people who don't like Wow, Dave the Diver,
• 3:23:56
  RoboCop is up there as well, yeah.
• 3:24:06
  Also in gaming news. I meant to cover this last week,
• 3:24:09
  but we, you know, we covered so much I didn't get the chance.
• 3:24:14
  Oh, rest. One more honorable mention.
• 3:24:17
  Metal health singer. OK, go on.
• 3:24:21
  Very good. Rest in peace to.
• 3:24:25
  James McCaffrey, the voice of Max Payne.
• 3:24:30
  Anyone who knows me knows that Max Payne is one of, if not my
• 3:24:34
  all time favorite game series. And as most you know, I'm
• 3:24:42
  anxiously awaiting the the remake.
• 3:24:47
  This does beg the question though, who is going to be Max
• 3:24:53
  Payne? Yeah.
• 3:24:54
  Or they original. Vocal.
• 3:24:57
  Files or Yeah, I mean from what I've heard and this is just
• 3:25:03
  speculation. I had heard that they were.
• 3:25:07
  Going that they had like started to rerecord some of the dialogue
• 3:25:11
  like with him, like the game was already the remake was already
• 3:25:16
  in production with him doing like recreating his voice lines.
• 3:25:22
  But now they may have to use the old files.
• 3:25:27
  Now this voice is just so iconic to that game and role, and also
• 3:25:34
  so. Unique.
• 3:25:36
  Yeah. It'll be the final project.
• 3:25:40
  You're you're right about that. I mean.
• 3:25:43
  I don't. I.
• 3:25:44
  Don't. I don't think it would be right
• 3:25:46
  for them to use. Someone else as Max.
• 3:25:53
  Yeah, yeah, that's a tough. That's tough shoes to fill
• 3:25:56
  either way. I just don't get hopeful for
• 3:26:01
  remakes, unless it's. Night Dive Studios.
• 3:26:05
  I don't. I don't get helpful for them
• 3:26:08
  either, but it. I don't get helpful for them
• 3:26:11
  either. But it seems like they really
• 3:26:12
  are like they're doing like a whole thing other than just like
• 3:26:17
  upscaling them. So.
• 3:26:22
  Yeah, we got the game in your. Game of the Year is.
• 3:26:25
  RoboCop, huh? I actually didn't expect that.
• 3:26:30
  Yeah, it's not. It's not gay spider man.
• 3:26:35
  Alan Alan Wake Two I I I haven't finished it but I I do like
• 3:26:41
  Speaking of James McCaffrey yeah that's like 2 is that's like
• 3:26:47
  epic game store game. So it didn't come out this year
• 3:26:50
  to me. Oh, I I epic game store gets
• 3:26:56
  exclusives. On PCI know you.
• 3:26:58
  You're a fucking console guy. So whatever.
• 3:27:01
  And we don't buy anything on Epic.
• 3:27:04
  So like if it comes out exclusively on Epic, PC gamers
• 3:27:07
  will be like that came out. Not kidding.
• 3:27:11
  Oh, I oh, I I get it. It's not a joke either.
• 3:27:14
  They just. Don't know.
• 3:27:15
  No one uses. The Epic Game.
• 3:27:17
  Store so a game can be out for like a whole.
• 3:27:19
  Year on there and when they come to Steam and people be like, Oh
• 3:27:23
  yeah, that finally came out awesome like PC.
• 3:27:26
  Gamers just. Unless you're a Fortnite guy.
• 3:27:29
  If you're a Fortnite guy, you'll use the Epic Game Store.
• 3:27:32
  But for anybody, they don't. Everybody just uses Steam.
• 3:27:38
  Got you? Got a bunch of indie Co-op
• 3:27:41
  games? I'll probably shout out some of
• 3:27:43
  them. My wife's friend gave me a $50
• 3:27:47
  Steam gift card and so I just got all games that we could
• 3:27:50
  play, mostly Co-op games that we I could play with her on the
• 3:27:54
  steam deck in my computer. Nice.
• 3:27:59
  What? Very nice.
• 3:28:01
  Oh. She really liked the game Alt F.
• 3:28:03
  Four It's. A.
• 3:28:06
  Comedy sandbox platform game that's like made to be super
• 3:28:12
  duper hard and hilarious. Yeah I've I've I've heard that's
• 3:28:16
  actually a good one. So.
• 3:28:19
  But. Otherwise, I had a whole bunch
• 3:28:22
  of them that I'm going to try out and.
• 3:28:24
  You know. Find some there.
• 3:28:25
  Is one that I think is awesome and it's on sale.
• 3:28:29
  If anybody's you know, interested in this kind of
• 3:28:32
  stupidity that I can even shout out.
• 3:28:33
  It's not game of the year or nothing, but it's called
• 3:28:37
  Infected Shelter and what it is is a 2D beat em up style like
• 3:28:45
  the old Ninja Turtle games or something zombie.
• 3:28:48
  Survival. Rogue Light.
• 3:28:50
  And I know that's a mouthful, but what it has is instead of it
• 3:28:54
  being a 2D beat em up, it's a 2D over the top.
• 3:28:59
  Shoot em up and there's wicked gore and executions and you're
• 3:29:04
  using like rocket launchers and and shotguns.
• 3:29:08
  And I don't mean just like in some beat em up games, you'll
• 3:29:11
  pick up a gun and you have three shots and then it's dead.
• 3:29:14
  This game, you're picking up a gun, blown away, 50 zombies with
• 3:29:18
  it before it fucking runs out of ammo, and then you pick up a
• 3:29:20
  Catana blade and cut three of them in half.
• 3:29:23
  It's a it's a blast. Sounds fun, ultraviolent.
• 3:29:29
  It's got like a cartoony. Art style though, so if you're
• 3:29:32
  not into. Ultraviolence.
• 3:29:34
  It's still. Not that.
• 3:29:35
  Bad. I like me some ultraviolence in
• 3:29:38
  video games, though. Yeah.
• 3:29:42
  I don't know about you, Sam, but if I get a shotgun, that.
• 3:29:45
  Doesn't really jib somebody I feel.
• 3:29:47
  Ripped off? Oh.
• 3:29:49
  I oh, I love. I love Ultraviolence in games.
• 3:29:52
  That's why I love RoboCop. Is like.
• 3:29:55
  Yeah, it's that's the best ultraviolence in a game of the
• 3:30:00
  year. I would say if I.
• 3:30:01
  If I could pick a subcategory. Of like the game with the most
• 3:30:05
  satisfying violence, That's RoboCop.
• 3:30:07
  There's not even anything. Yeah, you.
• 3:30:11
  I I love that. I love that you can like, yeah,
• 3:30:14
  See. I Ivan.
• 3:30:15
  Gave a thumbs up. Yeah, man.
• 3:30:21
  Yeah, you can like cap a guy he, you know.
• 3:30:24
  That one? That animation's crazy.
• 3:30:26
  You shoot. A guy in the Dick.
• 3:30:27
  Don't shoot, guys. In the Dick, but well, shoot a
• 3:30:30
  guy in the Dick. In RoboCop.
• 3:30:32
  I'm, I'm not even going to spoil it.
• 3:30:34
  But it's a good. You should do that and.
• 3:30:36
  It is it, is it. It's it's hilarious.
• 3:30:40
  It's even more hilarious when you don't try.
• 3:30:42
  To do it either, the best is when you shoot them in the Dick
• 3:30:46
  and then immediately shoot them in the head.
• 3:30:49
  So they go and they grab your Dick and you just blow their
• 3:30:52
  fucking head clean off with that fucking the pistol there.
• 3:30:56
  Yeah, you might. You really don't need any other
• 3:31:01
  gun in. In the game, although it does,
• 3:31:03
  it does help to have. Once you start upgrading that
• 3:31:08
  pistol, it is by far nothing else is even.
• 3:31:12
  Close, yeah, once you figure out how to use the little circuit
• 3:31:17
  board. Thing.
• 3:31:19
  So. But what do we got?
• 3:31:23
  Anything else? We've been at this for a while.
• 3:31:25
  It was a good show. Come back sometime.
• 3:31:30
  Yeah. Well, yeah, well, Luke should
• 3:31:32
  come back. So.
• 3:31:34
  And. And I mean, I've known him for
• 3:31:37
  close to 25 years at this point. So glad to know you approve of
• 3:31:42
  them. So yeah, shout out to him.
• 3:31:47
  Thanks Luke for coming on. Max, any final thoughts for the?
• 3:31:53
  Year. Speaking of things, thanks for
• 3:31:56
  filling the Apex Ward. Yeah, we're going to have him
• 3:32:00
  come back on sooner or later, like you haven't catch up every
• 3:32:05
  couple. Months, you know?
• 3:32:06
  Yeah, yeah. Well, people, people miss them
• 3:32:10
  too, so. Well, he's as much a part of the
• 3:32:13
  show as I am, in my opinion, You know?
• 3:32:16
  Yeah. No, I agree.
• 3:32:20
  It's been a It's been a good. Year We've had a lot of fun.
• 3:32:23
  Final thoughts for the year. Hashtag pussy smoke T-shirts
• 3:32:28
  coming soon. Final.
• 3:32:32
  My final thoughts for the year is.
• 3:32:36
  I I think 2024 is actually going to be a great year.
• 3:32:39
  I and we're going to take everyone on it, says it on the
• 3:32:43
  sign right. We're taking America back.
• 3:32:45
  Get in, take America back. Everyone.
• 3:32:48
  Everyone is Everyone is getting all black pill.
• 3:32:51
  Talking. Oh, there's going to be a Black
• 3:32:53
  Swan event in 2024. No, we're going to take, we're
• 3:32:57
  going to take America black back.
• 3:32:59
  There's going to be a white swan event, if anything.
• 3:33:05
  So don't be, don't be black pilled.
• 3:33:08
  Be optimism. Pilled.
• 3:33:09
  That's what I am. I'm I'm optimism pilled, those
• 3:33:13
  same people. And if Trump wins, those same
• 3:33:16
  people are going to be like, fuck Trump.
• 3:33:18
  So it's it's. What I the the contrarians going
• 3:33:21
  to contrary. You know, and we just need to.
• 3:33:24
  Like, ignore it and and and treat them the like what they
• 3:33:29
  are. Cringe.
• 3:33:31
  Yep. Get back on Reddit with that gay
• 3:33:34
  black pill shit. Yep, that's where it belongs.
• 3:33:41
  But. Anyway, folks.
• 3:33:43
  Thank you for making black pill. Is feminine.
• 3:33:47
  You're a woman if you do that. Very true and finally, folks.
• 3:33:55
  I want to thank you, the audience, for tuning into the
• 3:33:59
  show as I as I posted yesterday. The most important thing I
• 3:34:04
  learned from Rush Limbaugh is audience appreciation.
• 3:34:08
  And we really do love the audience here folks.
• 3:34:11
  That's why we read every chat, mostly even the ones that not
• 3:34:18
  even close. Tonight we read.
• 3:34:21
  We read some. Periodically.
• 3:34:25
  But we But to be fair, why we read every chat.
• 3:34:30
  Well. We.
• 3:34:31
  We. We.
• 3:34:31
  We. We at least.
• 3:34:33
  Intend. To Mostly that's true.
• 3:34:38
  You know, sometimes I remember and I.
• 3:34:41
  Make a. Big deal about it like I did
• 3:34:42
  tonight and then only read like. 3.
• 3:34:45
  Yeah. So.
• 3:34:52
  But the point is. Is like we actually, generally,
• 3:34:56
  we actually do appreciate it. It's just, you know, we're not
• 3:34:59
  as on point as you wanted to. Fucking exclaim, is all I.
• 3:35:03
  Go ahead. I just had to make that one
• 3:35:05
  correction for the that that is fair but but one thing we can
• 3:35:10
  say. Is that when we say thank you
• 3:35:13
  for listening to the? Show or.
• 3:35:14
  Watching or tuning in, we really do generally mean that.
• 3:35:21
  You know that there are a lot of shows that just want your PayPal
• 3:35:27
  box and your donors and we just want your likes.
• 3:35:32
  And I'm still tripped out. Y'all are here listening to us
• 3:35:35
  at all, man. Yeah.
• 3:35:39
  Yeah, so get something valuable out of.
• 3:35:42
  It if it's only entertainment that's that's good enough for
• 3:35:45
  me. Yeah, same here.
• 3:35:49
  I mean the amount of people who have.
• 3:35:52
  Said that, this show actually, like, helps them get through the
• 3:35:54
  day. That's like flattering, as helps
• 3:35:59
  me. So, you know, it helps me get
• 3:36:04
  through the day sometimes, 'cause I'm like, Oh yeah, I got
• 3:36:06
  a whole bunch. Of jokes.
• 3:36:08
  We. I was sitting there just before
• 3:36:11
  we, just before I went in the call.
• 3:36:13
  Here's a little inside baseball. For you.
• 3:36:16
  And I turned to my wife and I say, oh shit, I had a bunch of
• 3:36:20
  stuff I wanted to talk about and she's.
• 3:36:22
  And I was like, I even told you I want to talk about that on the
• 3:36:25
  show. Do you remember what I said?
• 3:36:26
  And she's like, Nope and I was like me either I should have
• 3:36:29
  wrote that shit down. Well, that is one other thing
• 3:36:32
  too, is I I did want to talk. About the merch sale.
• 3:36:36
  Stuff. Though because I wanted to.
• 3:36:38
  Kind of point out that. Like the merch sale Sounds great
• 3:36:43
  on the surface, but there's a whole bunch of like, underlying.
• 3:36:46
  Complications. I want to be the best way to
• 3:36:50
  support the show, but often times because of those
• 3:36:53
  complications. Even though it's the best.
• 3:36:55
  Time to support a best way to support a creator directly.
• 3:36:59
  It still sucks, you know? It's a it's it's a shitty all
• 3:37:04
  around. And that's one of the things
• 3:37:06
  I've been working on is. Like.
• 3:37:08
  I've looked at like 5 or 6 different distributors and
• 3:37:12
  looking at the prices and I'm just like, I don't know if I
• 3:37:14
  want to put that on our audience, You know, yeah, we'll
• 3:37:18
  see. Maybe we'll do both.
• 3:37:21
  Maybe we'll do a design on a. Cheap one and a design.
• 3:37:23
  On an expensive one and. Then have two.
• 3:37:25
  Distributors and just see race well, well that that's what
• 3:37:33
  that's what Mr. Medicare. Did I?
• 3:37:35
  Think so. And also it's tough to have a
• 3:37:42
  distributor that gives you. Like a level?
• 3:37:44
  Of creative freedom, too. Yeah, yeah, well that well
• 3:37:48
  that's thing is like teespring like said.
• 3:37:51
  My logo was. Copyrighted even though it was,
• 3:37:54
  like original so or or like they'll decide your political
• 3:38:02
  slogan isn't. OK.
• 3:38:03
  And that's something we. Might, might or might not run up
• 3:38:06
  against and that's true of a lot of distributors.
• 3:38:09
  It's just man, it's been a nightmare and that's why I I do
• 3:38:12
  have to apologize. There should have been merch
• 3:38:14
  this year. There will be Q1.
• 3:38:17
  I I can't promise before winter is out.
• 3:38:21
  But I can I? Can guarantee Q1 and maybe,
• 3:38:25
  yeah, the Pussy Smoke T-shirt will have to be the first one,
• 3:38:28
  won't it? And then we'll do a non.
• 3:38:29
  Offensive one next to it. Or at least not.
• 3:38:33
  Well there. There's one thing I can
• 3:38:36
  guarantee, which is that in Q. One there will be.
• 3:38:38
  The sequel? To shadows of deception.
• 3:38:42
  So that's why we need the T-shirts by Q1, right?
• 3:38:45
  Maybe we can put the Shadows of Deception T-shirt.
• 3:38:48
  In there. Another.
• 3:38:51
  Another guarantee. That I can at least try and make
• 3:38:54
  is. I will actually.
• 3:38:55
  Be writing out show notes beforehand so that we can prep.
• 3:39:01
  I'll try and do better about show prep.
• 3:39:04
  Whether or not we actually do better show prep, I I vow to do
• 3:39:10
  worse at it because it seems like the less prep I do, the
• 3:39:13
  better. The episode ends up that's
• 3:39:17
  actually unironically true. Sometimes so.
• 3:39:22
  I I vow audience to prep as little as possible in terms of.
• 3:39:28
  Looking into political events or news, I'm only going to vaguely
• 3:39:33
  browse Twitter. That's You know what?
• 3:39:39
  That's pretty much what I do. Now actually for show.
• 3:39:42
  Prep so you know what scratched out.
• 3:39:47
  We'll just keep on doing what we're.
• 3:39:48
  Doing and we'll try, not we. Just need to learn to take more
• 3:39:53
  notes or use the bookmarks. You know the.
• 3:39:56
  Bookmarks kind of work good on Twitter.
• 3:39:59
  Yeah. Or you.
• 3:40:00
  Or audience use the time stamps that I do.
• 3:40:05
  On each episode, if you're listening on Spotify, if you
• 3:40:09
  want to jump to the to a certain section and anything, you want
• 3:40:17
  Sam. To talk about.
• 3:40:18
  Particularly anything that makes him uncomfortable.
• 3:40:20
  Make sure you at me on Twitter, and especially if you know it's
• 3:40:26
  going to make Sam have like the face he kind of has now there,
• 3:40:29
  you know what I mean? She's like, Oh no, if you like
• 3:40:33
  that kind of stuff, you got to anything like that.
• 3:40:36
  You got to tweet at me. I'll bring it to the show
• 3:40:39
  myself, you know, cut out the middleman more.
• 3:40:43
  More. Morpheus, if Morpheus is
• 3:40:45
  scheming already. He's like I got him in now I I I
• 3:40:53
  can. I can.
• 3:40:53
  See. Morpheus and.
• 3:40:57
  And Jimmy, who's like, I'm only into New Jersey politics, but
• 3:41:01
  really I just, I I just like to troll everybody.
• 3:41:07
  Yeah, New Jersey politics is a fucking headache and a half.
• 3:41:12
  And then it. I think if you had to deal with
• 3:41:14
  New Jersey politics, it would be hard to deal with anything else
• 3:41:18
  because you're just pulling your hair out.
• 3:41:20
  Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah, that's true.
• 3:41:26
  So. Anyway.
• 3:41:28
  Folks, we thank you for tuning. Into into the show.
• 3:41:31
  We hope you have a good, you know, New Year's Eve, New Year.
• 3:41:36
  And you know, let me actually see Will will will the next show
• 3:41:42
  be on the 1st no the 1st. Is Friday it actually.
• 3:41:47
  Will be or Sunday, right? No, no, the first of the year.
• 3:41:53
  Is on Monday. I think oh.
• 3:41:57
  So yeah, we will see you next year, ladies and gentlemen, the
• 3:42:00
  year that we take. America.
• 3:42:03
  Back Boom. All right, folks.
• 3:42:08
  Have a good night. And we'll see you on.
• 3:42:12
  January. First, I guessed.
• 3:42:14
  Morpheus said Sam likes the strange.
• 3:42:16
  I want to end with that note. Go ahead, Sam.
• 3:42:21
  All right. See you January 1st, folks, for.
• 3:42:25
  Whitfield, Monday. More is partially right and I'll
• 3:42:31
  leave it at that. Happy New Year folks.
• 3:42:35
  We'll see you next year. Thanks for.
• 3:42:42
  Listening to the Whitfield report on the NGC Network.
• 3:42:47
  Please visit. Sam's website at
• 3:42:49
  www.thesamwhitfield.com and support Sam on
• 3:42:55
  patreon@patreon.com/whitfield report Until next time.
• 3:43:00
  God Bless God, Save this great nation and God, Freedom, legacy
• 3:43:06
  in that order.