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Joey's New York Comic Con Round-Up: Part 1 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and welcome to stuff. I never
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Speaker 1: told you production, I heard you, and today Samantha is
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Speaker 1: out sick, but I am very very happy to be
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Speaker 1: joined by a friend of the show contributor, Joey. Welcome back, Joey.
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Speaker 2: Hello, it's me.
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Speaker 3: I'm Samantha McVeigh for.
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Speaker 2: The next.
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Speaker 3: Hour, however long we end up recording. But yeah, thanks
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Speaker 3: for having me.
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Speaker 2: Annie. Always fun to be on the show.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I actually just spoke to Samantha before this and
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Speaker 1: she's she's she's she's got a lost voice, very croaky voice,
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Speaker 1: and she was like, tell Joey, I'm so said, I'll
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Speaker 1: miss it, but we both know it would have been
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Speaker 1: mostly the two of you talking.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Samantha, wherever you are, where you're listening,
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Speaker 3: you are missed, of course, so sad that you're not here.
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Speaker 1: But yes, even if she isn't on our same nerd level,
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Speaker 1: she's always got fun commentary, so we do miss her.
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Speaker 1: But we we we need.
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Speaker 2: Somebody in the room to bring us back to earth, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, Yes, somebody'd be like, no one knows what you're
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Speaker 1: talking about.
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Speaker 2: Nobody knows what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so hopefully we don't go too off the rails
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Speaker 1: in this, But yes, we did want to have you
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Speaker 1: back because we recently had you on when you after
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Speaker 1: you went to flame Con, which was a convention that
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Speaker 1: was largely focused on LGBTQ plus people and creators, and
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Speaker 1: in there, of course we got to talking because both
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Speaker 1: of us have a lot of thoughts about conventions, and
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Speaker 1: you mentioned you were going to New York Comic Con
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Speaker 1: in October and we were like, well, I would love
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Speaker 1: to have you back after that and hear what it
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Speaker 1: was all about. So here we are.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I was on earlier this year for flame Con,
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Speaker 3: and yeah, of course Ellie is happy to talk all
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Speaker 3: all of the nerd things with Anny. But yeah, I
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Speaker 3: went to a New York Comic Con this past I
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Speaker 3: think by the time this episode comes out, it'll be November.
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Speaker 2: But yes, I had to go to New York Comic Con.
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Speaker 3: Earlier this month. There's currently still October. I'm all were
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Speaker 3: recording this.
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Speaker 2: I this is now the fourth year that I've gone.
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Speaker 2: I love it. I thought it was a time I
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Speaker 2: do as I'm going to get it into. Have a
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Speaker 2: couple of.
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Speaker 3: Things I didn't love this year are sort of you know,
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Speaker 3: trends where I think things are going but it's not great,
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Speaker 3: but also lots of fun things. I cosplayed three days
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Speaker 3: in a row, which was an experience. I think I
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Speaker 3: slept for like a whole day after it was over.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess I'll start with like the fun,
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Speaker 3: happy stuff, because who doesn't love that? First of all,
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Speaker 3: again I did. It is October now. As we're recording
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Speaker 3: this Antie off Mike, we were talking about some of
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Speaker 3: our Halloween plans and I did realize mid October that
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Speaker 3: this month I literally every single weekend this month I
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Speaker 3: was at some point on public transportation in full costume
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Speaker 3: going to something. So like at the beginning of the month,
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Speaker 3: I went to the Rent Fair and like that was
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Speaker 3: super fun. That was great, and then then this was
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Speaker 3: common Kan was the second week, and then since then
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Speaker 3: it's kind of.
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Speaker 2: Been like Halloween party, Halloween party, another Halloween party.
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Speaker 3: And I love Halloween, so I'm I'm not complaining, but
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Speaker 3: you know, this is a fun time.
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Speaker 2: To be.
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Speaker 3: To be somebody that likes, uh, dressing up in costumes
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Speaker 3: and also lives in a very crowded city where I'm
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Speaker 3: always just seeing people and people are seeing me. Although
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Speaker 3: I will say one of my favorite things, like okay,
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Speaker 3: like I don't go to like anime connor whatever, so
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Speaker 3: that's usually the one that I point you were. I
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Speaker 3: love those weekends and just seeing like people in random
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Speaker 3: costumes that I don't understand.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm like this, go you.
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Speaker 3: I love that. That is my favorite thing. So I
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Speaker 3: hope that I'm that person for somebody, It's what I'm saying. Anyways,
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Speaker 3: So yes, I did go three days this year.
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Speaker 2: This is the first year that I've tried doing three
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Speaker 2: days instead of just two.
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Speaker 3: I cosplayed all three days. I made the really good decision.
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Speaker 2: This was not intentional.
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Speaker 3: This kind of happened by accident, but I'm going to
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Speaker 3: pretend that it was a conscious decision.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: I started with my hardest costume, like the most like
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Speaker 3: intense to wear on the first day, and then the
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Speaker 3: last day I had my like T shirt and jeans
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Speaker 3: costume that was like very little effort. Would recommend doing
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Speaker 3: that if you are going to a convention where you
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Speaker 3: are dressing up multiple days, if you're somebody who again
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Speaker 3: like unlike me, actually plans ahead. Because this sort of
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Speaker 3: ended up happen by accident, but I'm very very grateful
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Speaker 3: that it worked out that way because I was very
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Speaker 3: tired by Sunday.
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Speaker 2: So the Thursday I dressed up.
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Speaker 3: As Wigan from Young Avengers, Agathol Along, et cetera, Marvel Comics,
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Speaker 3: all of that. I also I dressed up at him
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Speaker 3: back in August.
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Speaker 2: For Flame Con. He's one of my favorite characters.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure if you've heard me on the show, you've
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Speaker 3: heard me talk about how much I love this character.
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Speaker 2: Annie, you know that I originally.
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Speaker 3: Was going to dress up as the Winter Soldier, and
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Speaker 3: then I procrastinated on making the metal arm, which is
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Speaker 3: like the majority of the costume, so that didn't end
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Speaker 3: up happening. But I have all the materials, so maybe
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Speaker 3: at some point.
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Speaker 2: In the future.
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Speaker 3: I did tell myself. I was like, maybe I'll just
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Speaker 3: save this for like Halloween weekend. I'll wear it one
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Speaker 3: of the days. I have yet to make any progress
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Speaker 3: on making this thing, so one day I will have
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Speaker 3: a metal arm. I just that might be in like
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Speaker 3: two years, but we'll see. But yeah, Wicked was fun.
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Speaker 3: That was again most annoying costume to wear. It is
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Speaker 3: just a like tight body suit.
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Speaker 2: And a cape. I didn't have any pockets. That was rough.
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Speaker 1: Yep, but you know what.
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Speaker 2: It was a fun time, felt good, looked.
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Speaker 1: Good, looked great. Coat sign thank you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, I was saying, and Samantha definitely got some
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Speaker 3: pictures for me and a couple other heart people that I.
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Speaker 2: Ran into there. And then day two I dressed up
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Speaker 2: is buy from Arcane.
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Speaker 3: I did have the realization that day that this is
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Speaker 3: the first time I've ever cosplayed a girl at a convention,
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Speaker 3: like a female character period, which I will get into
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Speaker 3: a little bit more later about some of that.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't terrible. I could have had a worse experience.
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Speaker 3: It was fun, though I also I'm not good this
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Speaker 3: is the type of place to get into it.
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Speaker 2: She was one of those.
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Speaker 3: Characters that I'm like, to me, I'm still like, that's gender,
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Speaker 3: like she she this is the gender that I want.
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Speaker 2: But that was a fun time.
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Speaker 3: I had a jacket for that, so I did have
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Speaker 3: pot and I was wearing pants so I had pockets.
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Speaker 3: That was great. I don't know if I'm ever going
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Speaker 3: to no pockets route again. That was rough. Yeah, I
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Speaker 3: was really nervous about the wig because I'm I usually
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Speaker 3: will just I'll work around curly haired brunette characters, which
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Speaker 3: luckily there's a lot of them, so but yeah, oh,
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Speaker 3: this was the first time I did like the wig.
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Speaker 2: That actually was fine.
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Speaker 3: I did have a friend len me a like fake
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Speaker 3: nose piercing that was terrible.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I I am one of those. I've
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Speaker 2: had many people be like, I thought you had a
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Speaker 2: nose piercing.
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Speaker 3: I have the persona of somebody who I guess people
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Speaker 3: assume that I have a nose piercing. I understand that
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Speaker 3: I can never it would annoy me way too much.
7:50
Speaker 3: And then take three, I dressed Nico to Angelo from
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Speaker 3: Percy Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Again, this was my easiest costume.
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Speaker 3: If you're familiar with the series, he wears just like
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Speaker 3: a big jacket and a T shirt and jeans and
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Speaker 3: that was great. Also that day I had two friends
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Speaker 3: that were organizing at like unofficial meetup. They actually there
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Speaker 3: was an official meetup last year that they had helped organize,
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Speaker 3: and then Comic Con this year decided not to greenlight it,
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Speaker 3: so it was an unofficial one. I'm going to get
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Speaker 3: into later some of my issues when I think some
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Speaker 3: of the organizing stuff and why wasn't you know I
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Speaker 3: think this maybe was a symptom of some other organizational
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Speaker 3: issues from the convention. But yeah, but that was super
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Speaker 3: fun and I think because it was like a smaller.
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Speaker 2: Kind of group.
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Speaker 3: It still was a pretty big turnout for that meet up,
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Speaker 3: but it was a smaller group, so like people I
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Speaker 3: don't know, and it's nice to be able. Like that
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Speaker 3: was one where I got some like bracelets and key
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Speaker 3: chains from people that were just doing like like little
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Speaker 3: trades and giveaways and stuff, kind of similar to Annie.
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Speaker 2: I know, like also.
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Speaker 3: Huge fifty if you that, that's kind of one of
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Speaker 3: the big Swifty things. It's like the bracelets, the beaded bracelets.
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Speaker 3: Also got some of those, which was fun. It's cool
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Speaker 3: to see that kind of become part of like larger
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Speaker 3: fandom culture, and I think especially sort of younger fandom cultures.
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Speaker 3: Percy Jackson obviously you know, I'm I'm gen z.
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Speaker 2: I grew up with those books. Those were my favorite
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Speaker 2: book when I was a kid.
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Speaker 3: They're I would say, most people I know that are
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Speaker 3: fans of it are a couple of years older than me.
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Speaker 2: I'm younger. But yeah, so so it was a it
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Speaker 2: was a fun time.
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Speaker 3: I personally, like I always say, comic con is fun
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Speaker 3: because you get to see like everybody's different neurotic tendencies
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Speaker 3: come out, which for some people means people are very
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Speaker 3: anxious and don't love crowds. I personally get distracted by
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Speaker 3: shiny things very easily, so I spent a lot of
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Speaker 3: it being like, oh, look, very cool cosplay. I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: go run after this person and ask for a photo.
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Speaker 3: So thank you to everybody who had to deal with
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Speaker 3: me those three days. But some of my favorite costumes
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Speaker 3: that I saw were there was somebody on Friday, whoever
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Speaker 3: you were that was there was somebody. I kept seeing
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Speaker 3: them and I kept trying to be like, oh my god,
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Speaker 3: I want a picture, and then I lost her. She
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Speaker 3: was dressed up as like the Lady Gaga meat dress. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: like she had the meat dress, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: I'm obsessed. I would not think to do that at
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Speaker 3: Comic Con, but I I wouldn't even think to do
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Speaker 3: that as a costume at this point.
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Speaker 2: But I love it.
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Speaker 3: Iconic beautiful.
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Speaker 2: There's always some fun Star Wars crossovers.
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Speaker 3: There was a Barbie Mandalorian, Uh you know, oh of course, Annie,
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Speaker 3: I'm seeing you.
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Speaker 2: Nodding, I'm seeing you, nady.
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Speaker 3: There was an Auna from Frozen like Han Solo mash
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Speaker 3: that was really cute.
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Speaker 2: I loved that.
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Speaker 1: That's great.
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Speaker 3: One of my favorite like costumes that I saw this
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Speaker 3: year that was new was if Anybody's seen Sinners, there
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Speaker 3: were a bunch of the like Smokestack Twins.
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Speaker 2: I love that movie. That was like my favorite movie
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Speaker 2: I saw this year that was super fun. Shout out.
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Speaker 3: There was one due that I was like talking to
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Speaker 3: for like ten minutes and I was like, I need
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Speaker 3: to get a picture of them because I was that
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Speaker 3: was the day that I was dressed by and I
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Speaker 3: was like, oh yeah, because she's like Hayley Seinfolwed that'll
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Speaker 3: be funny. And then of course, like I left and
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Speaker 3: my friend I was with was like, weren't you gonna
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Speaker 3: ask for a picture And I was like, oh no wait.
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Speaker 2: Yeah that was we got to start to talking about
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Speaker 2: something completely different.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, ye crazy how that happens. But yeah, I
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Speaker 3: guess some more just like trends that I saw, because
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Speaker 3: I also think it's interesting to just see like what.
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Speaker 2: People what is popular, what are people causplaying?
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Speaker 3: As of course there's always a lot of like you know,
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Speaker 3: it is comic Con, there's all the comic book staples
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of X Men, a lot of Jean Grays.
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Speaker 3: This year, I saw a lot of Jean Grays, a
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Speaker 3: lot of Teen Titans groups, lots of Fantastic Four makes
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Speaker 3: sense the movie came out this year, same with like
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Speaker 3: Superman and a lot of the like newer version of
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Speaker 3: Supergirl too. Of course, always lots of Spider Man, lots
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Speaker 3: of Scarlet Witches. There were a lot of Obi Wan Kenobi's,
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Speaker 3: specifically right like, there was a lot of Star Wars
11:57
Speaker 3: has places, but particularly like the younger Obi Wan Kobe,
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Speaker 3: which I love. I love obi Wan Knobi like let's go.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought that was interesting.
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Speaker 1: That was on my when I did my Dragon con.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting. That was Dragon kon too.
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Speaker 1: He round up I saw. I just saw so many
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Speaker 1: obi Wan Kenobi's and I loved it. It was fantastic.
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Speaker 1: There was one that I was like, you look exactly
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Speaker 1: like and he had so many ribbons Dragon konkaus that
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Speaker 1: ribbons he had, like, that's so many on his badge.
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Speaker 1: And I saw him get into some kind of tea
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Speaker 1: drinking duel with Darth Maul. I don't know, but there
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Speaker 1: were a lot of Obie wants. Something's going on on
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Speaker 1: the obi Wan site.
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Speaker 2: Guys, he just like he.
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Speaker 3: I guess that's like he's the Spider Man character of
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Speaker 3: Ye Wars, where like you're always.
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Speaker 2: Gonna see him everywhere. If anybody is an obi.
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Speaker 3: Wan Kenobe cosplayer that wants to like, tell me why
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Speaker 3: there's so many still to this, Like, and again, I'm
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Speaker 3: not complaining great character, I get it, but I'm just like, Wow,
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Speaker 3: there's so much Star Wars content and I'm like, like
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Speaker 3: every five minutes, I'm seeing an obi Wan Kenobi walk
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Speaker 3: by me.
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Speaker 2: So that was fun.
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Speaker 3: Lots of K Pop Demon Hunters surprise Prize back to
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Speaker 3: Star Wars.
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Speaker 2: I didn't see some and Or Cause plays.
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Speaker 3: The character I probably saw the most was Claya, which
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Speaker 3: I thought was really cool. There was a moment where
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Speaker 3: I almost was gonna go with Clia and I could
13:21
Speaker 3: not figure out how to do the hair correctly, so
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Speaker 3: I didn't do that. But shout out to everybody those
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Speaker 3: I mean, big fan of that show obviously on the
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Speaker 3: on stuff, I've never told you love her characters specifically,
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Speaker 3: so that was super fun.
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Speaker 2: I saw a couple of mon Mathmas too. It was
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Speaker 2: really cool, I think.
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Speaker 3: For and Or to see like specifically a lot of
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Speaker 3: the female characters getting so much love and like getting
13:44
Speaker 3: so much more attention than I think you see in
13:47
Speaker 3: a lot of these franchises usually.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to see one good mon Mathma dance
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Speaker 1: and I did, Yes, thrilled.
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Speaker 2: I didn't see any I'm at the dance. I did there.
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Speaker 3: There was one that I kept walking by, though, and
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Speaker 3: every time, like I like there were like three times
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Speaker 3: that I had walked by the same person, and every
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Speaker 3: time like this song would start playing in my head
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Speaker 3: and I just like stuck in my That was also
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Speaker 3: also definitely like at the point of the day where
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Speaker 3: I had like one.
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Speaker 2: Like Whiskey Coke and was just like, yeah, let's go,
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Speaker 2: let's go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, you know what, next time if they want something,
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Speaker 3: should have had a big dance circle with that.
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Speaker 2: What was going on? Missed opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Definitely definitely some a couple of cosplays.
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Speaker 2: I was surprised to see.
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Speaker 3: There were quite a few Lord of the Rings ones,
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Speaker 3: which of course always a classic, but I was sort.
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Speaker 2: Of like, wow, there's there.
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Speaker 3: Hasn't really been new Lord of the Rings content recently,
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Speaker 3: but nice love that I saw a few, not as many,
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Speaker 3: not many, but more than I expected. Uh, Harry Potter cosplays,
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Speaker 3: which that I thought was interesting.
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Speaker 2: Obviously it's still a very popular series, but like, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, things have happened, uh where you know, I personally
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Speaker 3: want to make the decision to costplay one of those characters.
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Speaker 2: I think it's something like this.
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Speaker 3: I did talk to a friend of mine about this,
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Speaker 3: who also, like the two of us were both really
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Speaker 3: big Harry Potter fans back in the day and I
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Speaker 3: kind of moved away from the series, and he pointed
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Speaker 3: out something interesting which I didn't even really think of,
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Speaker 3: but he was like, yeah, there's been a bunch of costplays,
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Speaker 3: but I have not seen like any merch like when
15:22
Speaker 3: you walk around artists Allly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing like a single like piece of
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Speaker 3: Harry Potter fan art that was being sold.
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Speaker 2: So that, to me, I think maybe is more of
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Speaker 2: a sign that like JK.
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Speaker 3: Rowling has fallen out of favor obviously, like you know,
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Speaker 3: people are gonna cosplay whatever. There is something about like,
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I think it is complicated the idea
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Speaker 3: of like whether you're cosplaying a thing, are you contributing
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Speaker 3: to that thing? Making money or whatever. I think it's complicated.
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Speaker 3: I think I can see both sides of it. I
15:52
Speaker 3: think it depends on how you go about it. But
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Speaker 3: that being said, I think the fact that like nobody
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Speaker 3: was trying to make money off of this series is
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Speaker 3: probably a more damning then the fact that there were
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Speaker 3: a couple of people dressed as like, you know, random
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Speaker 3: Hogwarts students. I did see a really good Bell Tricks cosplay,
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Speaker 3: so shout out to her.
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Speaker 2: Again, I don't know if that's a decision that I
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Speaker 2: would make, but the cosplay was great.
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Speaker 3: Another one that I was kind of surprised to see
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Speaker 3: there were quite a few Peggy Carters, which, again I
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Speaker 3: love this character, but I was sort of like, wow,
16:23
Speaker 3: I'm surprised to see that, like this character is held
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Speaker 3: up so well. I think her last appearance was like
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Speaker 3: what like six years ago, I don't know, Like I
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Speaker 3: thought that was interesting, but again I this was a
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Speaker 3: character that, like I loved when I was a teenager
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Speaker 3: and those movies were coming out. Also, quite a few
16:40
Speaker 3: Captain America's, which again, of course a popular character.
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Speaker 2: Not super surprising.
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Speaker 3: I did think it was interesting that I think of
16:48
Speaker 3: the Avengers that was probably the one I saw the most.
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Speaker 3: And I think again, given the fact that the Steve
16:55
Speaker 3: Rogers Captain America character hasn't really made any appearances lately,
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Speaker 3: like it was interesting to me.
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Speaker 2: But that is a character that.
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Speaker 3: I saw more than maybe like other Avengers that are
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Speaker 3: still in movies and stuff like that, and you know,
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Speaker 3: given political stuff, I don't know, it was also kind
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Speaker 3: of interesting.
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Speaker 2: I Captain America is one of those characters.
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Speaker 3: To me, I'm like, I'm a big Captain in America fan.
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people that I think like
17:20
Speaker 3: align with po politically that also really love those movies.
17:22
Speaker 3: I love that character, and I I find it really
17:25
Speaker 3: interesting that like, even with all the messiness happening, that's
17:30
Speaker 3: still character people are drawn to.
17:32
Speaker 1: M hm, he's a very Superman esque case.
17:36
Speaker 2: He is. I think it is similar.
17:38
Speaker 3: And I was thinking about also the like response people
17:41
Speaker 3: were having to the Superman movie, and it reminded me
17:43
Speaker 3: a lot of I think the discourse around like Steve
17:46
Speaker 3: Rogers's Captain America as a character, because it was very like, look,
17:48
Speaker 3: it's this like wholesome masculinity that's like about caring for
17:52
Speaker 3: people and protecting people, which I think is interesting. I
17:54
Speaker 3: think it's interesting that like that is a trope of
17:56
Speaker 3: like male superhero character that is held up and again,
18:01
Speaker 3: like I love Superman, I love Captain America. I also
18:05
Speaker 3: am somebody that is like, you know, drawn to that
18:09
Speaker 3: kind of character, feels very inspired by that type of character.
18:12
Speaker 2: There's obviously like good in a bad side to that.
18:15
Speaker 2: M M.
18:16
Speaker 3: I think yeah, And I think just like, given the
18:19
Speaker 3: state of things, it was sort of like, you know what,
18:21
Speaker 3: it's nice to see that that is still something that
18:23
Speaker 3: It's like, like the thing that really stands out to
18:26
Speaker 3: people is the idea of like helping people and whatever
18:28
Speaker 3: and all these it's not necessarily like the political jingoism
18:33
Speaker 3: of it all. I did see a lot of peacemaker
18:36
Speaker 3: causeplays too. Actually, on the other side of that, I
18:38
Speaker 3: see a lot of peacemakers, a lot of vigil antes,
18:40
Speaker 3: which that was fun.
18:42
Speaker 2: All the vigil anti ones were great. He's such a
18:45
Speaker 2: fun character. Yeah, I don't know.
18:48
Speaker 3: And that's interesting to compare to. So it sounds like
18:51
Speaker 3: Dragon Con was a similar sort of mix of characters.
18:56
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I okay, So I'll go over So I
19:00
Speaker 1: feel like dragon Con is so, I mean, I go
19:03
Speaker 1: his disco Luke is so niche. So there are like
19:07
Speaker 1: the big ones, there are the classics. But I went,
19:10
Speaker 1: I was going over my like list before we did
19:14
Speaker 1: this of just like some things that stood out to me.
19:17
Speaker 1: Dragon Con does. And I know you're going to talk
19:18
Speaker 1: about this later. I'd be curious because I've only been
19:21
Speaker 1: to ComicCon once and I was there for work, so
19:22
Speaker 1: I didn't really get to explore it as much. But
19:25
Speaker 1: they do like huge, huge meetups, and it'll be the
19:30
Speaker 1: most random thing. So like the blow up dinosaurs thing
19:33
Speaker 1: is I mean just hundreds. But I did see. You know,
19:38
Speaker 1: some of this is biased because you're looking for things
19:41
Speaker 1: that you recognize. I did see not one, but two
19:44
Speaker 1: Abby and Joel confrontations from Last of Us too.
19:46
Speaker 4: Oh my wait, wait a minute, there were a lot
19:50
Speaker 4: of there were there were a lot of Last of
19:52
Speaker 4: Us ones too, though of course relevant, But yeah, how
19:56
Speaker 4: did that work?
19:57
Speaker 2: What do you mean confrontations?
19:58
Speaker 1: Like they've like played it out like we came in
20:02
Speaker 1: with a golf glove. It was fantastic.
20:07
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I love when people do like all.
20:11
Speaker 3: My favorite ones are always the like weird, obscure or
20:13
Speaker 3: like like I said at the top, like when people
20:14
Speaker 3: do like a like a Barbie Mandalorian or I love
20:18
Speaker 3: a creative pun yeah again, like the Lady Gaga one.
20:22
Speaker 1: Really yeah, Yeah, I'm the ones you see like that
20:25
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, I know exactly what that is,
20:29
Speaker 1: but I never would have thought.
20:30
Speaker 2: I would have never thought of that. Yeah, Like, I
20:32
Speaker 2: know what that is, but I never would have thought
20:33
Speaker 2: of that.
20:33
Speaker 3: I love it. There was a lot of the last pus.
20:35
Speaker 3: There was a lot of like mushroom yeah people. That
20:38
Speaker 3: was very cool. I couldn't have I'm really bad at
20:41
Speaker 3: just basic makeup, so I have so much respect for
20:43
Speaker 3: people I can do like the all out special effects stuff.
20:46
Speaker 2: Very cool.
20:47
Speaker 3: On the note of yeah, I think having the kind
20:50
Speaker 3: of bias blinders on. I did also see a lot
20:53
Speaker 3: of arcane cosplays, although I talked to a couple of
20:55
Speaker 3: people afterwards too that I was like, I don't know
20:57
Speaker 3: if it was just because I was dressed as this
20:58
Speaker 3: thing and I was looking for people that were also
21:00
Speaker 3: dressed as this thing, but there was a lot of.
21:01
Speaker 2: Arcane that was my day that I listen.
21:06
Speaker 3: I one of the things that I love about cosplaying
21:08
Speaker 3: at these kind of things is like getting to just
21:11
Speaker 3: like stop and take pictures with people. I think it's
21:13
Speaker 3: like micronosing being a celebrity h for a day. And yeah,
21:20
Speaker 3: so that was super fun. So yeah, shout out to everybody.
21:22
Speaker 3: I like kept forgetting to ask people to send me
21:26
Speaker 3: pictures afterwards.
21:27
Speaker 2: So if anybody happened, there's anyone.
21:30
Speaker 3: Out there that happens to type a picture to me
21:32
Speaker 3: of me from that, please send it my way.
21:34
Speaker 2: But that was super fun.
21:36
Speaker 3: Again, Yeah, it's it's just it's people are so creative
21:38
Speaker 3: and it's so cool seeing the stuff for the Arcane
21:42
Speaker 3: ones too. There were a bunch of people that had
21:43
Speaker 3: like the weapons from the show that they'd like made,
21:45
Speaker 3: and I I love that stuff. I like if I
21:49
Speaker 3: had had the time, I would have done the full
21:50
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to make her gloves.
21:52
Speaker 2: And I ran out the time. But it's okay, yes,
21:55
Speaker 2: I yes, yeah.
21:58
Speaker 3: But on your point about the meetups too, that is
22:01
Speaker 3: also something that happens at New York Comic Con.
22:03
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier.
22:04
Speaker 3: My friends organized this like an official Percy Jackson one.
22:07
Speaker 3: Something I think is interesting because there usually are like
22:09
Speaker 3: the big ones that like there's a big DC one,
22:12
Speaker 3: there's a big Marvel one, there's a big Star Wars one.
22:16
Speaker 3: There's like a specific section they're usually at. There usually
22:20
Speaker 3: are a couple of smaller ones too. I think though
22:23
Speaker 3: it sounds like this year, the actual official like Comic Con,
22:27
Speaker 3: wasn't really sponsoring those. It was like people doing their
22:30
Speaker 3: own thing. Yeah again, my my friends had done this
22:32
Speaker 3: Percy Jackson one. I had a couple of friends that
22:35
Speaker 3: were going to like a critical role made up I
22:37
Speaker 3: think on the last day, I can't remember which day
22:39
Speaker 3: it was specifically, but and that was like another one
22:42
Speaker 3: where it was like somebody had just decided to organize
22:44
Speaker 3: it on their own. I found out later a friend
22:48
Speaker 3: of a friend had also organized like an arcane one
22:51
Speaker 3: the Saturday, and I.
22:53
Speaker 2: Did not hear about it till later, but that I
22:56
Speaker 2: thought was interesting.
22:57
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a bit more into this, but I
23:00
Speaker 3: did have some issues, I think, with the organization from
23:04
Speaker 3: Comic Con this time, and I think the fact that
23:07
Speaker 3: there was kind of a blind spot for these meetups
23:10
Speaker 3: that was being filled by people like putting their own
23:15
Speaker 3: kind of like time and effort and energy into organizing
23:17
Speaker 3: things like that.
23:19
Speaker 2: To me, I was sort of like, that's.
23:20
Speaker 3: Not great because yeah, again, like last year, my friends
23:23
Speaker 3: had organized this meetup and they got like, hey, we'll
23:26
Speaker 3: like put you on the calendar and you'll be in
23:28
Speaker 3: this space at this specific time, and like they end
23:31
Speaker 3: up getting calm tickets, which was very nice. By this time,
23:34
Speaker 3: it kind of was just like Okay, you're on your own,
23:35
Speaker 3: and it was like great, So now it's on us
23:37
Speaker 3: to like find a space and like make sure nobody
23:40
Speaker 3: else like takes that space. And also you know, yeah,
23:45
Speaker 3: it is like putting time and labor to organizing this thing,
23:47
Speaker 3: but then it is like not really being supported by
23:51
Speaker 3: comic Con, but also it's drawing people to comic Con.
23:57
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. That just seems a little
23:59
Speaker 2: itchy to me.
24:01
Speaker 3: Which brings me to some of my complaints this year.
24:06
Speaker 2: I think the main two problems were one.
24:09
Speaker 3: Tickets got really expensive, and to the crowd.
24:13
Speaker 2: It was very very crowded this year. And you're probably.
24:17
Speaker 3: Sitting there thinking like, no, it's gonna be expensive and
24:19
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a ton of people.
24:22
Speaker 2: I know, I went into this like I've gone before.
24:24
Speaker 2: I know it's super crowded.
24:26
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the issues this year were
24:28
Speaker 3: like very easily preventable or at least could have been
24:31
Speaker 3: like alleviated starting with the cost.
24:34
Speaker 2: So for some reason.
24:35
Speaker 3: They decided to raise the ticket prices like a month
24:37
Speaker 3: before the event, and at this point, like they were
24:40
Speaker 3: almost sold out, Like they didn't need to do this.
24:45
Speaker 2: I think at this point they actually had sold too
24:47
Speaker 2: many tickets.
24:49
Speaker 3: Again, I think going back to the crowd point, like
24:52
Speaker 3: maybe they should have like sold all the lest I
24:55
Speaker 3: don't know whatever, like maybe there's something they should have
24:57
Speaker 3: done to have less people there to begin with. But yeah,
25:00
Speaker 3: they sent out this email like a month before that
25:02
Speaker 3: was like make sure you're getting your tickets out because
25:04
Speaker 3: they're about to go up and like so now, and
25:07
Speaker 3: they were raising them. They were like with the intention
25:09
Speaker 3: of next year they're going to be discost They're ninety
25:11
Speaker 3: dollars a day now, which is a lot of money
25:13
Speaker 3: for basically, yeah, you're going to go shopping, right, Like
25:18
Speaker 3: you're going through this thing to spend more money. I
25:21
Speaker 3: don't think it needs to be that expensive. I'm going
25:23
Speaker 3: to get back to why I don't think so later.
25:24
Speaker 3: But the other issue that is the crowd, right, Like
25:27
Speaker 3: if you're if tickets cost as much, you're the other
25:30
Speaker 3: side of the problem then too, is Yeah, like there's
25:32
Speaker 3: like too many people. This has been going on for
25:34
Speaker 3: like a long time, like New York Kong kinda has
25:36
Speaker 3: been going on for a long time. At this point,
25:38
Speaker 3: it's been in the same convention center. There were a
25:40
Speaker 3: couple of things this year that were different, and I
25:42
Speaker 3: think they made it a little bit more difficult because again,
25:45
Speaker 3: like I've gone New Years past where it has been
25:46
Speaker 3: very crowded, I was sort of mentally prepared for that.
25:48
Speaker 3: I get there Friday and I was like, this is
25:50
Speaker 3: what Saturday crowd like. Saturday is usually terrible. Friday was
25:53
Speaker 3: what Saturday was usually like Saturday. I could not move
25:55
Speaker 3: around for most of it. The main issue which this
26:00
Speaker 3: threw me off when I got there and I saw
26:01
Speaker 3: a lot of people complaining about this. There was an
26:03
Speaker 3: entire section that usually is open to the public that
26:06
Speaker 3: they had blocked off for like VIP guess and people
26:10
Speaker 3: from press and industry, panelists and content creators. I don't
26:13
Speaker 3: think it's a bad idea to have a lounge for
26:15
Speaker 3: these people, like obviously, especially if you're working at the convention,
26:18
Speaker 3: like you should, you know, have a space to decompress.
26:20
Speaker 2: Whatever.
26:22
Speaker 3: The space that they had blocked off was way too big.
26:25
Speaker 3: It was like an entire like half of a floor.
26:29
Speaker 3: This also usually is the space. The space that they
26:31
Speaker 3: blocked off specifically is usually where like cosplay repair is
26:35
Speaker 3: and like the med station and stuff like that, like
26:37
Speaker 3: stuff that's important for people to know where it is,
26:40
Speaker 3: and there was some confusion about like people not knowing
26:43
Speaker 3: where to go for that.
26:43
Speaker 2: They moved it all to the basement, and the.
26:45
Speaker 3: Basement is already pretty crowded because that's where like the
26:48
Speaker 3: food court is, and you know that's where a lot
26:50
Speaker 3: of the meetups are and stuff like that. So again,
26:56
Speaker 3: I don't think it was the best decision. It was
26:59
Speaker 3: a very big amount of space that I don't think
27:03
Speaker 3: they needed to block off that. I think that was
27:04
Speaker 3: part of why the main Florida up feeling so crowded
27:07
Speaker 3: was there's was less spaces for people to go.
27:20
Speaker 2: And this springs met to talking about content.
27:21
Speaker 3: Creators, and this is I I'm gonna have tried carefully here.
27:27
Speaker 3: I want to start off by just like defining what
27:29
Speaker 3: I mean when I say content creators, because I think
27:31
Speaker 3: it is a very vague term and there's kind of two.
27:34
Speaker 2: Definitions that I haven't mind.
27:35
Speaker 3: When I'm talking about contract creators, I think most people
27:37
Speaker 3: when they hear content creators, they think like some kid
27:40
Speaker 3: with an iPhone and like maybe a bad ring like
27:43
Speaker 3: camera making stuff I'm putting out on TikTok, which yes,
27:47
Speaker 3: that's some people they're also it also could mean people
27:51
Speaker 3: there are people that like make entire careers out of this,
27:54
Speaker 3: and that means oftentimes they have like a whole camera
27:57
Speaker 3: crew set up, maybe not like a huge like film
28:00
Speaker 3: set type thing, but it'll be like a couple of
28:02
Speaker 3: people filming them, some actual like nice cameras lighting all
28:08
Speaker 3: of that. And so immediately after the weekend was over,
28:12
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of chatter online with people complaining
28:14
Speaker 3: about content creators and how they were sort of unfairly prioritized.
28:18
Speaker 2: And I really agree with this. I think that this
28:20
Speaker 2: was a huge problem this year.
28:22
Speaker 3: Some of it was coming from people that were content
28:24
Speaker 3: creators and belonging to this former group of like more
28:26
Speaker 3: or less amateurs that are making content like for fun.
28:29
Speaker 2: It's not the re main source of income. There was
28:32
Speaker 2: one guy that I found.
28:33
Speaker 3: She made a video that I think like he did
28:35
Speaker 3: a very good job of like talking through what I
28:37
Speaker 3: was talking about with this this section that was blocked off,
28:39
Speaker 3: and he.
28:40
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, no, I thought it was really weird.
28:42
Speaker 3: I was allowed in the space, but it was like
28:44
Speaker 3: way too much space for the amount of people in, like,
28:47
Speaker 3: you know, the people it was four versus the people
28:49
Speaker 3: in the entire convention center. Wish like kudos to him
28:52
Speaker 3: for acknowledging that, Like I think, you know, there were
28:55
Speaker 3: other people I saw online that got very defensive right away,
28:57
Speaker 3: and I was sort of like, yo, like this.
28:59
Speaker 2: Is not but nobody is attacking you specifically.
29:02
Speaker 3: They're talking about the fact that like the rest of
29:04
Speaker 3: us like had nowhere to sit. My one quick note
29:07
Speaker 3: is not to be shady about this guy. Again, no
29:10
Speaker 3: disrespect to him. I when he's doing good for him.
29:14
Speaker 3: I also am somebody that, like I, makes very similar content.
29:16
Speaker 3: I probably would call myself content creator and some some
29:20
Speaker 3: definitions of the word. I looked at his actual account,
29:23
Speaker 3: and yes, he had a significant following.
29:25
Speaker 2: I think for somebody who.
29:28
Speaker 3: Like was given access to again like this like VIP
29:32
Speaker 3: treatment and having a comp ticket. He didn't specify whether
29:35
Speaker 3: it was like totally calmed or just discounted, but like
29:38
Speaker 3: spending less money on the ticket. I was sort of
29:40
Speaker 3: surprised that somebody with that following was able to get that,
29:44
Speaker 3: and that also showed to me, like again going back
29:45
Speaker 3: to this idea of tickets being so expensive or like
29:49
Speaker 3: your average Joe, Yeah, if you have like if they're
29:53
Speaker 3: being very liberal about what they're calling a content creator
29:56
Speaker 3: and like somebody with under one hundred k followers on TikTok,
29:59
Speaker 3: which yes, that might seem like a lot, but when
30:01
Speaker 3: you really think about like some of the follower counts
30:03
Speaker 3: of these people, it's not that much. Like, yeah, if
30:07
Speaker 3: you have all of these people that you're coming tickets for,
30:09
Speaker 3: you're giving them discounted tickets, like no wonder you're not
30:11
Speaker 3: making as much money, and then you want to raise
30:13
Speaker 3: the ticket prices for the rest of us, which just
30:17
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like a good business model. I mean, yeah,
30:20
Speaker 3: it's like you're getting that free advertisement, but at the
30:22
Speaker 3: same time, it's like there's only so much that people
30:24
Speaker 3: are going to be willing to pay to go to
30:25
Speaker 3: these things. I already heard a bunch of people that
30:27
Speaker 3: were sort of like, I'm probably not going to go
30:29
Speaker 3: last next year? Is the problem my last year because
30:32
Speaker 3: it just got so expensive this year, and you know,
30:35
Speaker 3: they are sort of facing a problem right now about
30:37
Speaker 3: not making enough money to keep the event going. So again,
30:41
Speaker 3: to me, I'm not a business person, but I see
30:44
Speaker 3: this and I'm sort of like, it seems like there's
30:46
Speaker 3: a very clear problem here. And yeah, maybe again when
30:50
Speaker 3: people are saying, hey, they're putting a lot of emphasis
30:55
Speaker 3: on these content creators and giving preferential treatment to these
30:58
Speaker 3: content creators, that is frusture. That makes me less likely
31:01
Speaker 3: to want to go to this kind of thing. Like,
31:02
Speaker 3: I get it, that makes sense, and that doesn't seem
31:05
Speaker 3: like a good business model. That being said, I don't
31:08
Speaker 3: think like this group of content creators is necessarily the
31:10
Speaker 3: worst problem.
31:11
Speaker 2: Again, like, no hate to these people.
31:13
Speaker 3: I think like content creators get a lot of hate
31:16
Speaker 3: that is not necessarily necessary. I think the biggest problem
31:20
Speaker 3: were again like these people that they're making content because
31:24
Speaker 3: it's like their job, it's their career, it's what they
31:26
Speaker 3: make money off of.
31:29
Speaker 2: Listen, I work in media. I get it.
31:30
Speaker 3: It is hard to like have be under pressure and
31:33
Speaker 3: have a short period of time where you need to
31:35
Speaker 3: create content to go out to a big audience and
31:38
Speaker 3: needs to look up certain way. Whatever that being said,
31:41
Speaker 3: it does not give you a permission to be an
31:44
Speaker 3: and some of the behavior that I saw from these
31:46
Speaker 3: people was like abhorrent.
31:47
Speaker 2: Like it was just really bad.
31:49
Speaker 3: So the way that the convention center is set up,
31:53
Speaker 3: there's like this giant lobby area. There were a lot
31:56
Speaker 3: of like camera setups that people had in this lobby area. Again,
31:59
Speaker 3: they had this whole section that was blocked off for them.
32:01
Speaker 3: I don't know why that was not being utilized more.
32:04
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people on this main lobby
32:06
Speaker 3: floor and then on the main stage floor that were
32:08
Speaker 3: like taking up a lot of space to film content.
32:12
Speaker 3: That is where people are trying to walk in and out.
32:14
Speaker 3: People are going to walk into your shots. I saw
32:17
Speaker 3: people getting yelled at. I saw people getting like pushed
32:19
Speaker 3: off camera. I the third day that I was there,
32:22
Speaker 3: I was walking to the bathroom, and again this is
32:24
Speaker 3: a very crowded area, so I was sort of trying
32:26
Speaker 3: to like make my way around people. I had a guy,
32:29
Speaker 3: like one of the crew guys for one of these
32:30
Speaker 3: creators like grab my arm and like pull me out
32:34
Speaker 3: of a shot, which I don't think that's.
32:37
Speaker 2: Okay, Like I'm not gonna rune. It was like a.
32:39
Speaker 3: Little and I was like grab I mean, like this
32:42
Speaker 3: dude like pulled me like I was like whoa, Like
32:44
Speaker 3: you could have just said, like, hey can you Also,
32:46
Speaker 3: I'm like.
32:46
Speaker 2: Hey you could you could cut that out of the shot.
32:49
Speaker 2: It's not that hard, just start over again.
32:52
Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing that I think was most
32:54
Speaker 3: frustrating to me because again I have a level of
32:59
Speaker 3: sympthey where I'm like, I get you're trying to make
33:01
Speaker 3: content because that's what your job is, but like, keep
33:06
Speaker 3: in mind, you were going into a very crowded space
33:08
Speaker 3: where people paid a lot of money to be here.
33:12
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I think, like, I think it
33:15
Speaker 3: makes sense that people were frustrated that like these sort
33:17
Speaker 3: of people were getting be able to get away with
33:20
Speaker 3: this kind of behavior and there really was no kind
33:23
Speaker 3: of there was no accountability, there was no like and
33:29
Speaker 3: it was also clear that they were like getting that
33:30
Speaker 3: preferential treatment. So I think, I think it again, it
33:32
Speaker 3: makes sense that people were frustrated. I was frustrated. So
33:35
Speaker 3: I don't know what the solution is. I don't know
33:37
Speaker 3: if there just needs to be like clear guidelines like
33:39
Speaker 3: what people can and can't do if they're going to
33:43
Speaker 3: keep this like space blocked off for content creators, maybe
33:46
Speaker 3: there just needs to be more rules about like you
33:48
Speaker 3: need to be filming content here.
33:50
Speaker 2: You can't.
33:51
Speaker 3: The other thing was too going back to the meetups,
33:53
Speaker 3: like there were people that were like taking up these
33:56
Speaker 3: big sections. It was also raining that whole weekends more
34:00
Speaker 3: people inside trying to take pictures as opposed to outside.
34:02
Speaker 3: But it's like everybody's trying to take pictures, everybody's in
34:04
Speaker 3: their costume, everybody's here.
34:06
Speaker 2: To like have fun.
34:07
Speaker 3: You can't be like blocking out like prime, Instagram, real estate.
34:13
Speaker 3: The entire like three hour period that you I don't know,
34:17
Speaker 3: it just there was a lot of behavior that I
34:20
Speaker 3: think like it felt it felt like rude, and it
34:25
Speaker 3: felt disingenuous to like why people want to go to
34:29
Speaker 3: these events. It felt like it definitely like it. And
34:31
Speaker 3: I can see from the again, like comic CON's perspective,
34:33
Speaker 3: they're like great free advertising.
34:35
Speaker 2: We want to prioritize that, but.
34:37
Speaker 3: Also think about the fact that it's like the people
34:38
Speaker 3: that you're making money from, people that are paying you
34:40
Speaker 3: to be there, they need to be having a good
34:42
Speaker 3: time too, Like it is a supplying demand issue and
34:44
Speaker 3: like you're gonna start losing customers if you let that
34:47
Speaker 3: slide for the sake of Yeah.
34:50
Speaker 2: Again, like a bunch of TikTokers. Not saying that.
34:53
Speaker 3: To TikTokers again, no disrespect, but like we're all here
34:58
Speaker 3: for the same thing.
35:00
Speaker 2: Let people enjoy this, Like, don't just turn it into.
35:04
Speaker 3: Shocking comic con of all things can turn into a
35:07
Speaker 3: capitalist hellscape.
35:08
Speaker 2: Who would have thought?
35:12
Speaker 1: Is it still at the Surprise Prise Javits Center?
35:16
Speaker 2: Dam it's gonna yeah, yeah, which have you been there?
35:18
Speaker 2: It's a huge space, fun story.
35:20
Speaker 3: I actually the first time that I went to that
35:22
Speaker 3: convention center was getting my COVID nineteen shot because I
35:25
Speaker 3: had like the whole like National Guard set up there.
35:29
Speaker 3: So every year it's kind of funny where I'm like, oh, yeah,
35:31
Speaker 3: I remember like this entire place being just like filled
35:34
Speaker 3: with like military dudes, and now it's Captain America.
35:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I have a video. I think I mentioned
35:43
Speaker 1: this last time we talked, but when I was there,
35:45
Speaker 1: I did a walk through video of the whole thing
35:48
Speaker 1: dressed as Winter Soldier, and it was content that we posted.
35:51
Speaker 1: And I'm just trying to envision because that was a
35:54
Speaker 1: long time ago, and I'm just trying to envision because
35:57
Speaker 1: I feel like the media space I was in was
35:59
Speaker 1: pretty small and it was upstairs and then there was
36:03
Speaker 1: one that was there was one that was downstairs and
36:07
Speaker 1: that was where you did interviews, and they had like
36:08
Speaker 1: the backdrop, uh, and you know the media would just
36:13
Speaker 1: go and interview this poor person over and over again,
36:15
Speaker 1: but same questions I'm sure every time. But it didn't
36:18
Speaker 1: feel that big. But it's also kind of an interesting
36:21
Speaker 1: setup because it's it's long. It's like a the hallway
36:25
Speaker 1: I remember being like a long walk to get to
36:28
Speaker 1: the artist alley and then to get to the where
36:31
Speaker 1: I want to where you want to go buy stuff.
36:32
Speaker 1: It's kind of a like interesting setup. I suppose.
36:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a weird it's a weird setup, and
36:39
Speaker 3: I get. I mean, I think like going to what
36:41
Speaker 3: you were saying, obviously a it is always very crowded
36:45
Speaker 3: and be like.
36:45
Speaker 2: This has been a thing.
36:46
Speaker 3: I do think there should be like a space for
36:49
Speaker 3: content creators. I do think there should be a space
36:51
Speaker 3: for like for staff or press whatever. I think the
36:55
Speaker 3: way that it was just set up this time was
36:57
Speaker 3: so poorly done.
37:00
Speaker 2: That was the problem. I think it it was a.
37:03
Speaker 3: Issue of scale and it is like these are all connected.
37:06
Speaker 3: If you're going to have more space blocked off for
37:08
Speaker 3: content creators, you're going to have less space for the
37:10
Speaker 3: general public. People are going to be upset about the
37:12
Speaker 3: fact that they're all kind of because again, I'm used
37:15
Speaker 3: to it being crowded, especially Saturday, it is usually like
37:18
Speaker 3: very very crowded.
37:19
Speaker 2: That was the worst I've ever seen it.
37:21
Speaker 3: Like there were points on Saturday where like I literally
37:24
Speaker 3: was just like I cannot move, Like I'm stuck on
37:26
Speaker 3: the show floor and I'm just waiting for there to
37:28
Speaker 3: be an opening for maybe.
37:29
Speaker 2: To be able to walk out.
37:31
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I get Yeah, And again, I
37:32
Speaker 3: think I think it is worth like pointing out the
37:34
Speaker 3: fact that it was something that I saw so many
37:37
Speaker 3: complaints about. It's like, clearly there was something different this
37:40
Speaker 3: year that was frustrating.
37:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because again I mean.
37:43
Speaker 3: Like the show floor obviously super crowded as well. I
37:47
Speaker 3: think that also, And again I mean I think this
37:50
Speaker 3: is something that who knows what the solution is. Wasn't
37:54
Speaker 3: the best organized things were. It was a little bit
37:56
Speaker 3: hard to find things. I think they tried to spread
37:58
Speaker 3: out some of the things that people they knew people
38:00
Speaker 3: like there was the big like Marvel set up and
38:01
Speaker 3: the big DC setup that we're on like opposite sides,
38:04
Speaker 3: and there was like all these different companies and stuff
38:07
Speaker 3: that was kind of funny. It was sort of like,
38:09
Speaker 3: we're we have to separate them, and they were they're
38:11
Speaker 3: gonna right, you're gonna fight.
38:12
Speaker 2: I don't know.
38:13
Speaker 3: Shout out to I friend of the pod care from
38:16
Speaker 3: it could happen here is also doing an episode about
38:18
Speaker 3: Comic Con for that.
38:20
Speaker 2: Very excited to hear that. I think it's gonna be
38:22
Speaker 2: much for uh critical in depth.
38:25
Speaker 3: But something they pointed out we were walking on on
38:27
Speaker 3: Sunday that I thought was interesting was they were like,
38:29
Speaker 3: there's a lot of a lot of the stuff on
38:32
Speaker 3: the show floor is like Instagram. It's for Instagram, like
38:35
Speaker 3: it's it's so you can take the picture to post
38:36
Speaker 3: on Instagram later, which yeah, I was like, that's interesting.
38:40
Speaker 3: I do kind of wish there was a little bit
38:41
Speaker 3: more like interactive things. That being said, I did also
38:44
Speaker 3: drag them through the entire avatar set up to get
38:49
Speaker 3: a picture with Apa so that I could put that
38:51
Speaker 3: on the Instagram later. So I gotta get it.
38:53
Speaker 2: I can't.
38:53
Speaker 3: I can't complain too much because I did also definitely
38:56
Speaker 3: feed into the the instagramification of everything.
39:00
Speaker 2: So yeah, I again I think a lot.
39:03
Speaker 3: My main issue is just that I think a lot
39:05
Speaker 3: of the specific issues about the way the space was
39:07
Speaker 3: organized that was providable, and that's something that I hope
39:11
Speaker 3: and again, if they're going to be charging so much
39:14
Speaker 3: for it next year, that that needs to be fixed.
39:17
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're going to drive people away.
39:19
Speaker 3: It's not fun if you cannot if you literally cannot
39:22
Speaker 3: do anything because you can't move around right.
39:26
Speaker 1: Well, surprise, surprise, listeners, it turns out that things did
39:30
Speaker 1: go off the rails without Samantha here and Joey and
39:33
Speaker 1: I have a lot more to say about the ways
39:35
Speaker 1: that cons have progressed, the ways they're backsliding in some areas,
39:40
Speaker 1: and how that reflects on our society. So much more
39:43
Speaker 1: to say, in fact, that we're splitting this into two parts,
39:46
Speaker 1: even though it was originally supposed to just be one episode,
39:49
Speaker 1: so stay tuned for part two. In the meantime, you
39:53
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40:01
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40:03
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40:06
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40:12
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40:15
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