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NFL & NFL and CFB Best Bets: NFL's Wildcard Weekend & College Football Playoff's Semi-Finals · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and out podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully everyone is doing well. We are brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by my friends at Zone Pouches. Love those guys. Today
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  Speaker 2: will be a pretty straightforward show. I will be joined
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  Speaker 2: by friend of the program, fellow father why technically I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a father yet, the child still in the belly stuck.
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  Speaker 2: He is had a baby last I think a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and I wanted to bring him on
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  Speaker 2: because we've got the college football playoff game starting tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that at the end. We
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  Speaker 2: ended up just firing through a bunch of NFL you know,
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  Speaker 2: from the super Bowl standpoint to the game standpoint this
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  Speaker 2: weekend through Monday. Start off with asking him about John Harbaugh,
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  Speaker 2: who obviously was He's a Ravens fan, so some get
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  Speaker 2: his thoughts on that, but Stucky will bang out. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: he's got stats galore. We will dive into the individual games.
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  Speaker 2: Not an easy week to pick, I mean, unless you're
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  Speaker 2: hammering the Rams money line. These games can get weird.
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  Speaker 2: This season's been weird. I would imagine some weird stuff
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  Speaker 2: is gonna happen this weekend. So we will we'll get
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  Speaker 2: ahead of it. That will be the show today. Yesterday
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  Speaker 2: we discussed obviously Harbaugh getting fired John Harbaugh, h I
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  Speaker 2: guess you knew that. Probably you know, from eber Flus
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  Speaker 2: to Kingsbury some of those situations. I will do a
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  Speaker 2: reaction to Saturday night or excuse me, Thursday night Miami
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  Speaker 2: playing Old miss which is actually, I want to say,
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  Speaker 2: in my backyard, but it's about an hour drive from
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  Speaker 2: where I'm at. It's a pain in the ass to
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  Speaker 2: get to. So I'm just gonna watch it on television,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll do a live reaction on YouTube. After that.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do a big mail bag on for Fugazi Friday
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  Speaker 2: Friday for sure. But other than that, you guys know
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  Speaker 2: From an audio standpoint, we have YouTube will be live Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I think Monday is going to be our first show
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  Speaker 2: on Netflix, so it'll be uploaded on Netflix Monday morning.
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  Speaker 2: That's the plan right now. I have another you know,
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  Speaker 2: marketing business call on Friday to kind of iron out
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  Speaker 2: some more stuff. But as of now, that is the plan.
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  Speaker 2: We will keep you updated and again nothing changes here,
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  Speaker 2: so we will just keep doing the same old podcast
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  Speaker 2: that we've been doing for a long long time and
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  Speaker 2: just keep swinging our pick, talking a little ball, talking
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  Speaker 2: life and uh and yeah see where it goes. But
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  Speaker 2: let's just let's just dive right into Stucky. Okay. This
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  Speaker 2: is always the time of year where you start getting
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  Speaker 2: a little bittersweet because you start counting the games, and
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  Speaker 2: for me, this is one of the last probably the
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  Speaker 2: lastest pure weekends of football, especially with my life. Stucky.
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  Speaker 2: I have my baby has a massive head and has
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  Speaker 2: flipped the wrong way. So we have a scheduled sea
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  Speaker 2: section right now next week on Thursday. So I I
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  Speaker 2: this this Thursday through Monday. Stretcher boy is gonna soak
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  Speaker 2: up big time. How you doing man? This is this
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  Speaker 2: is a rough time of year in a weird way
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  Speaker 2: because it should be great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the same thing happened to us and then we
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  Speaker 1: ended up having to go even earlier, a week earlier
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  Speaker 1: because they're my wife's blood pressure like spike shed like
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  Speaker 1: pretty clamps. Yes, so we had an emergency sea section,
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  Speaker 1: but that was the same thing that happened. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just count, like, yeah, I believe you are fifteen
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  Speaker 1: football games left and seven of them are this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Jeez, and put it right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the weekend you really got to cherish
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  Speaker 1: because you got college football semi on Thursday, college football
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  Speaker 1: semi on Friday, and then wild card Wildcard Wildcard, so
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  Speaker 1: five straight days a playoff football, and then it'll really
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  Speaker 1: hit you on like Tuesday morning, you're like, wow, especially
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  Speaker 1: for you, So congrats. I wish everything. I wish you
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  Speaker 1: well and I hope everything goes well. But yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is the this is the time it really starts to
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  Speaker 1: hit you. But I am very excited for this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I am too. And before we dive in any football,
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  Speaker 2: you are a Ravens fan. Obviously. John Harbaugh is one
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  Speaker 2: of the central figures of football, especially just because of
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  Speaker 2: his football family. I mean, he played in one of
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  Speaker 2: the most famous Super Bowls of all time. He played
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  Speaker 2: against his brother. I don't think we're ever seeing that
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  Speaker 2: one again unless they play each other, which you never
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  Speaker 2: know if he goes to the Giants or whatever reg Wrexham
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of years. But your thoughts, because my
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  Speaker 2: initial thought was obviously you and I and it had
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  Speaker 2: been out there, people kind of rumbling about it. But
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  Speaker 2: when you see it, it wasn't truly a wow moment.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, now I I I didn't know if
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  Speaker 1: it was going to happen, but I had a feeling
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  Speaker 1: it would. And I do think that it makes sense
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  Speaker 1: from an organizational standpoint. I mean, sometimes you just I
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  Speaker 1: think it it will probably work for both parties. I
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  Speaker 1: think that just I think Carball and the organization needed
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  Speaker 1: a change. You've had all of these blown leads, these
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  Speaker 1: heartbreaking losses to end seasons over the years, and I
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  Speaker 1: think losing this, losing to the Steelers to miss the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs in the fashion that they did, was the straw
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  Speaker 1: that broke the camel's back. And I didn't say like
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  Speaker 1: I was it was. I thought, I think Carball was
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  Speaker 1: a good coach, and I think he did a tremendous
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  Speaker 1: job over his tenure, brought a Super Bowl to Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: But I did that decision not to run another play
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  Speaker 1: and get more yards, that is the hardest stadium to
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  Speaker 1: kick in in the NFL, and to go back two
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  Speaker 1: yards with a young kicker, I.
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  Speaker 2: Best kicker just missed then extra point, just.
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  Speaker 1: Missed an extra point. So that was just a gut
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  Speaker 1: punch in a tough way for Harball to end his
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  Speaker 1: eighteen year tenure in Baltimore. But I do think it
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  Speaker 1: was time. And it seemed also that like the relationship
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  Speaker 1: between Lamar and Harball was potentially splintered a bit, so
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  Speaker 1: that might have had something to do with it. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see how much say Lamar has in this decision and
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  Speaker 1: what his how long his future will be in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: But it's I as a Ravens fan, I'm okay with it,
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  Speaker 1: even though I liked Harble. A lot of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fans are delusional. Like you go to any fan
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  Speaker 1: base in the NFL, there's so many that just think,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter who they are, they think
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  Speaker 1: their coach is awful. Right, it could be anyone Like
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  Speaker 1: there's there's there's a ton of forty nine Ers fans.
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  Speaker 1: I think Shanahan's awful. There's a ton of any fan
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  Speaker 1: base you're you find, you'll just see like Shanahan because
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  Speaker 1: they're less like you're winning super Bowls every year.
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  Speaker 2: He shut them up a little bit this year, but
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  Speaker 2: it got it last year got ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but peoplen't realize, like winning super Bowls is hard.
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  Speaker 1: Like but I liked Harball, but I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: time for a change. I'm very curious to see who
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  Speaker 1: they bring in and what's up.
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  Speaker 2: What's your guess.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking maybe Chrishula is a name that
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  Speaker 1: I could see them going, But I just I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that they're actually they want to take what's.
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  Speaker 2: That not Jesse Minter?
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  Speaker 1: I could yeah, would mintor I could see mintor.
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  Speaker 2: Too mintor Cliff Kingsbury combo.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a lot of the rumblings are around Cliff.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he would be I don't like
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  Speaker 1: Cliff as a head coach. I think he can be
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  Speaker 1: a good offensive coordinator, but that'll come down to I
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  Speaker 1: could see that working with Lamar.
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  Speaker 2: But such a soft, soft offense for Baltimore, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even with when they got run heavy with Rome and
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  Speaker 2: it's a physical run game. Cliff, I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 2: I I you're talking to a Cliff hater from a
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  Speaker 2: football standpoint. Seems like a great guy.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not a big Cliff guy either. I would not.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully he's not the head coach. I would. I've been trash.
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  Speaker 2: That would be insane. I mean, you can't fire John
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  Speaker 2: Harball for Cliff Kingsbury. If I was a raven fan,
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  Speaker 2: I would I would boycott. That's not allowed.
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  Speaker 1: I would actually love if it's mentor so we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: It'll it'll be an interesting offseason. There's also like the
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  Speaker 1: you just can't not like Lamar in his in his prime,
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  Speaker 1: in his peak, was as good as any quarterback you'll
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  Speaker 1: ever see in this league. But part of what made
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  Speaker 1: him so dominant was his speed and his ability. You
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  Speaker 1: had to respect his rushing ability and his ability to
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  Speaker 1: create and you know by time and scramble and then
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  Speaker 1: hit plays downfield. He's not getting any younger. And the
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  Speaker 1: accumulation of all these injuries, what does that do to
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  Speaker 1: him over time? Hard to say. Obviously wasn't healthy this year.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm super cute. It's gonna be a very
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  Speaker 1: very interesting offseason. I think just as important as nailing
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  Speaker 1: the head coach. They need to go this is my number,
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  Speaker 1: this will be it, and they have a really good,
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  Speaker 1: uh GM, really good, own a really good scout team.
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  Speaker 1: Their number one priority in the draft has to addressing
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  Speaker 1: the edge rush. They had no edge rush, and it
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  Speaker 1: is very difficult to win in the NFL in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five if you can't get pressure. And I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a concern. We're gonna talk to forty
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  Speaker 1: nin ers. That's gonna be a concern for the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine ers if they want to make like that's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna prevent them from making a run. Is their defense
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  Speaker 1: and their inability to generate pressure, and that plagued the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens all year. They need to address that, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: in for agency or the draft. This is a draft
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  Speaker 1: class that's loaded with edge talent, so they need they
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  Speaker 1: need to hit there because a lot of the other
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  Speaker 1: pieces are there for them to make a run next year.
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  Speaker 1: But it'll be an interesting offseason in Baltimore for sure.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I think it's a big advantage for you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the blow in that game and they
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  Speaker 2: draft ninth, it's pretty easy to move up a couple
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  Speaker 2: spots and get all of a sudden, it's like, God,
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  Speaker 2: the Chief's got the best defensive lineman in the draft,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and that's that can change your future.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the other rad so Raiders to make a sixty.
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  Speaker 2: But you had mentioned it last week once the Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: started tanking at halftime, which a little ironic because I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even own they don't own their pick, right they
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  Speaker 2: have the Packers picks or didn't even matter. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean classic Cowboys. What a win for uh? Jet
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  Speaker 2: the Jets? Yeah, the Jets have their The Jets had
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  Speaker 2: a pretty good day, right, I mean the Jets, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: obviously they stink. But the other thing is I saw
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  Speaker 2: Stefanski spend a couple of days with the Giants, and
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  Speaker 2: now you know Harbaugh. You couldn't hire Stefanski over Harbaugh.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're Stefanski, if you've just been with the
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  Speaker 2: most dysfunctional organization or one of them in all of
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  Speaker 2: sports for a while, what do you just want to
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  Speaker 2: take a deep breath? And if I'm Mara, the easiest
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  Speaker 2: way to get people like Okay, John you're back, Convince Harbaugh.
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  Speaker 2: Use him as your offensive coordinator. Hey, Kevin, all you
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  Speaker 2: got to do is focus on offense. Will pay you
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  Speaker 2: like five six million dollars a year. You might just
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  Speaker 2: be one and done. You don't want the Cardinals, the Titans.
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  Speaker 2: This that's the same thing you were just dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: Come here and you'll have the pick of the litter
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  Speaker 2: and you'll stock where. I wonder if they're trying a
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  Speaker 2: little package deal. Obviously they didn't know Harball was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be available when they first got Stefanski. But if I'm them,
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  Speaker 2: I double down Stefanski and be like, listen, come here
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  Speaker 2: with John. He'll let you run the offense. Can you
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  Speaker 2: imagine that if you're a Giants fan and you got
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  Speaker 2: Harbaugh's head coach Toefanski in that list. I know people
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  Speaker 2: are gonna want Stefanski as their head coach. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're Stefanski, why would you want these organizations where people
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  Speaker 2: just go like two and three and done all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't touch these teams that are available.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that would be that would be very intriguing
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  Speaker 1: if they got Harball and Stefanski, because yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: STEFANSI he was just put in a position where how
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  Speaker 1: was he going to succeed Number one in that division?
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  Speaker 1: Number two with it Deshaun Watson, and he made it
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  Speaker 1: clear they got that his team got that hour away
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  Speaker 1: that he disagreed with the Watson trade.
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  Speaker 2: Is that leaked in the last couple of days. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even see that.
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  Speaker 1: They got leaked like an hour after it was announced
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  Speaker 1: he was fired. So yeah, he was just putting. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: two time Coach of the Year, by the way, the
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  Speaker 1: last five besides O'Connell last year, all of the coach
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  Speaker 1: of the year since twenty nineteen were fired. Variable who's
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  Speaker 1: obviously been rehired, but Harball Stefanski twice, Who's who's on
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  Speaker 1: the Why is his name slipped me? The Bears coach
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  Speaker 1: at Naggi got fired. It's pretty crazy how quick things
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  Speaker 1: can turn in the NFL. I think that would be great.
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  Speaker 1: And then maybe there's like Harpball convinced Wink Martindale to
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  Speaker 1: come be the defensive coordinator. But if they just need
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  Speaker 1: to address like the secondary a bit, and if they
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  Speaker 1: can get that, and I think it's Stefanski offense, but
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  Speaker 1: the way he wants to operate his offense with a
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  Speaker 1: mobile quarterback in dark, yeah, there's there's potential there. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's I think that would be a great landing spot
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  Speaker 1: for Stefanski. And I think that would be a win
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  Speaker 1: for the Giants, that they can pull that off.
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• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the NFL. We'll get to college a little bit later.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: But I just wrote down a question. I'll I asked
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  Speaker 2: this to you, and this is what I wrote down.
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  Speaker 2: I said, who can win the Super Bowl? Let's start
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: there before we even dive into the games. And obviously,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a one seed, you just got to win
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  Speaker 2: two games both one seeds could get to the super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: and if you can get to the super Bowl, you
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  Speaker 2: can win the Super Bowl. Right, And then I wrote
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  Speaker 2: down in the AFC, I wrote down the Jags, the Pats,
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  Speaker 2: the Texans, and the Bills. And in the NFC I
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: only had two other teams beside Seattle, and that was
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  Speaker 2: the Rams in Philadelphia. Now people be like, what about
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  Speaker 2: the Bears. I'm sorry, if your defense is equally as
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  Speaker 2: bad as the forty nine ers, I just can't take
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  Speaker 2: you seriously as a Super Bowl contender. So I got
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  Speaker 2: the two one seeds. I got four teams other than
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  Speaker 2: that in the AFC and two in the NFC. So
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I got a total of eight teams. Obviously the forty
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  Speaker 2: nine Ers would have been one of those teams. But
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  Speaker 2: they're just the Attrician is just falling off a cliff.
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  Speaker 2: I can't take them seriously. And again the Bears, I
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: put them in a similar bucket with their defense is
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  Speaker 2: just horrendous. It's just bad, and you can't they have
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  Speaker 2: to win three games just to get there, and then
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  Speaker 2: at fourth I can't even Bears fans would have to acknowledge.
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  Speaker 2: And the ironic part about that is their defensive franchise.
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  Speaker 2: Now they have this offensive wizard and their defense stinks.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even necessarily their fall. I mean, Jalen Johnson
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  Speaker 2: looks really slow. Their dbs just look slow. And now
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  Speaker 2: I get it's Saint Brown and Jameson Williams are good,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: But you could I knew the Lions. It was so obvious,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: like this is a classic Dan Campbell's spot, He's gonna
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: play with Pride Bears a little bit of a calm down.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even just the Niner game. They had a
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  Speaker 2: pretty crazy month, two Packer games. You know, it felt
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  Speaker 2: like they kind of came out a little slow, and
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  Speaker 2: those two receivers just running left and right. So do
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you think that's fair? Do you have anyone else in
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: that mix? Yeah?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Bears a great year for Ben Johnson,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: stud like should be one of it. It was in
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: should have been in the running for a Coach of
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the year. What he did with them and Caleb Williams
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: was tremendous. But this is a team. They were the first,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: They were only the second teams as nineteen eighty or
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the strike here in eighty two that won a division
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: with a losing division record twenty ten chiefs with the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: other team they usually could have been owed six in
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: their division. They had an on side kick recovery against
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the Packers and that crazy win, and then then they
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: needed a long kickoff return to beat the JJ McCarthy
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and the Vikings. Otherwise they would have been owned six
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: in the division, and they had NFL record six wins
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: when trailing under two minutes. They usually could have lost
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: to the Raiders, the Commanders they beat both by one.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: The Bengals with Flacco they won in the final seconds there,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the Giants they won in the final seconds there, the Vikings,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the Steelers with Rudolph, and the Packers with Willis Like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: this team easily could have lost eleven games. So yes,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll start in the NFC.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: To those their division record. They got swept by the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: line four and they split with the other two teams
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: because JJ beat them week one.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, two and four. Only two teams since
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two won their division with a losing division record.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Wild Yeah, so especially in that division that the fact
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: that they still want it is pretty crazy.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Someone asked me, actually in a DM, could the Bears
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: be one of the first teams ever to win their division,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and like, you could make the argument that they're the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: worst team in the division. He's like, well, I Minnesota
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: to me with their quarterback situation, the Bears quarterback situation
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: is dramatically better. So I I would argue that the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Packers clearly would have won that division if it didn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: just fall off a cliff in December with.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Injuries, right, Yes, yes, I agree.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: And the Lions.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: The Lions injury.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Coaching situation, but the Lions had coaching situations. It's like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Johnny Morton got fired, Dan, I thought you fired him
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like two months ago. You know, he just got to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: keep his office.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Lions had a bunch of injuries too, defense,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: offensive line, but yeah, the their coordinator losses and and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the coaching stuff definitely didn't help. But all right, so
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I'll start in the NFC, Like, yeah, you it's so
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: wide open because I can nitpick at every team, Like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the Rams, yes, obviously, the Panthers, no, clear, No, they
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: cannot win it. The Eagles, yes, although that offense it's scary.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers, No, it's the defense not good enough.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So I have the Eagles, Rams, the Seahawks. Can I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: see Donald winning a Super Bowl's hard, but they're the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: one seed. With that defense, you have to put them
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: in there. So that's three. The Bears, No, not with
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: that defense. The Packers, I'm gonna say yes.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Did.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: The defense has fallen off with the injuries, especially to Parsons,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But I think they beat the Bears. I mean they're
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the seventh Sea. That's tough. They beat the Bears, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: then they would play the Seahawks like, could you get
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a Donald game? Sure? And then like it's hard for
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: me to see them beating the Rams. But I'll hesitantly
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: put the Packers. Like their offense is going to be
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: healthy now they can just outscore teams. So that's four
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in the NFC. In the AFC, your Broncos the one seat,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: so you have to put them there. Steelers no, Texans
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: with that defense, yeah, Jags yes, Bills yes, Patriots, Chargers no,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: with that offensive line, I guess Patriots yes. So as
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the two seed, I'm not a full on believer yet.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that, but yeah, I mean I I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in the AFC, honestly, the only team I can't see
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: winning it is the Steelers. The Charter's offensive line is
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: gonna make it tough. But with that defense, Harvall Herbert,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't completely count them out. So I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: think the FC like, you can tell me any team,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: but the Steelers got to the super Bowl, and I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's just start Saturday afternoon. Rams, massive favorite on
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the road against a team that lost in a winner
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: get in game because it wasn't actually a winner get
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: in game because Atlanta, as we saw, won the game,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: which for a split second it felt like Tyler Shuck
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: was going to lead him down the field and win
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: the game that he throws the pick. I don't I
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: haven't even checked the weather in Carolina, but it can be.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: This isn't you know. I think when you say some
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: of these southern places, you know, in Tampa it was raining,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't cold. Carolina could get cold. What I
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: know you're a weather guy because you what's the outlook there?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: This is just stay away from me. The ten and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: a half, that's a huge number, I thought the Rams.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: If Jacobe, if that play doesn't get called back, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: think it called it a personal foul on the offensive
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: lineman Wilson caught like a seventy yard bomb and it
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: was twenty three to twenty felt like they were gonna score.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be twenty seven to twenty three, and you're like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: what is going You could see the look on mcveagh's
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: face where he felt a little lost, like I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: know what to do here.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a game where he wanted to play the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: starters to play better.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: He was trying to win.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is going on against a team that has
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: been that is just basically a practice squad with all
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: our injuries, that's been getting blown out every week. Wilson.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Wilson looked like Puka Naku in that game. He's making
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: sweet plays.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was incredible, incredible year for him. Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: So this if this is at ten and a half eleven,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: which would be the largest road favorite in NFL playoff history,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: which is pretty insane. These two teams played in November.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: The spread closed ten. The Panthers won outright, but it
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: was extremely fluky. I mean, the Rams in that game
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: had a sixty percent success rate. They led the league
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: for the entire season at fifty percent. They had a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: seventy six percent rush success rate, which is insane, by
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the way, they led the league there at fifty percent.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: So but what happened in that game while you had
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Stafford pick six, you had a fourth down bomb, another
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: fourth down bomb, and a third eight thirty five yard touchdown.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Like not sustainable. The Panthers in that game they only
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: had a thirty thirty eight percent success free which would
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: have been like bottom four in the league. They didn't
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: do much except hit these like very high leverage plays
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and they rams turned it over three times. However, I
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: will say in that game, they didn't have any of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: their linebackers who were hurt. They didn't have j. C. Horn,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: who had a concussion, their top corner. They didn't have Morigg,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: They're starting safety who was suspended for the at the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: end of the forty nine ers game the week before,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: so they were extremely shorthanded on defense. They still forced
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Stafford into a bunch of mistakes. And I will say,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, this Stafford has really struggled against his
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: old coordinators Raheem Morris and everro I think he's faced
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: them four times and he has eleven interceptions. And ever Roh,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: who I think he's a really good defenseve coordinator. He
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't really have a lot of talent to work with
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: in Carolina. But that McVeigh Shanahan Tree this year, he
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: kind of owned them. I mean you had Stafford who
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: had the three turnovers and they were completely decimated. Brock
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Purdy had what three picks against the Panthers, and Jordan
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Love lost outright to the Panthers at home. So like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: their defense has something on this, and Stafford historically has
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: struggled with defenses. You don't want to blitz him, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think Carolina will blitz say Historically, don't the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: defenses that disguise their coverages post snap Stafford has struggled
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: with if you want to, like go in to where
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Stafford struggles. The Panthers disguise their coverages post snap at
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the highest rate in the league. So I think that
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: they're going to try, you know, they're going to play
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a ton of Cover three, disguise their coverages, try and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: take away explosive plays. So I think they think Baby
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: can hang a little bit more than some people think.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And also you have to think is Kevin Dotson healthy?
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: The offensive line for the Rams is not the same
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: without him. His the hell healthy? Is Devontae Adams right.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: He had two touchdowns in the first meeting. So all
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: this is to say that I'm looking at an under.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I want to get a forty seven. It's at forty
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: six and a half right now outdoor totals. By the way,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: in the wildcard round above forty four thirty one to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: ten to the under since two thousand and thirty, that's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: seventy six percent. Just an incredible clip. But I think
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that the Panthers defense, which will be healthier this time around,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: play out of zone? Can Can they keep the Rams
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to like twenty eight? Sure? And I do this Panthers offense,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it's I can't see them doing much like there are
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: they going to hit a bunch of fourth down bombs again? Maybe?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: But the rushing offense is broken. I mean this is
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: since week ten. They're twenty seventh in rush success right
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: twenty ninth and rush EPA. Their backs are worn down
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: like Bryce Young, I can't see him shredding this Rams defense.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So what is the ceiling for the Panthers. It's seventeen,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be shocked if they only scored ten points.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to see them doing much. Maybe
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: there's some home playoff voodoo with the crowd, which should
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: be excellent, but I think the number is about right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at an under here. This to me, I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: project this like twenty eight seventeen Rams. Wouldn't be surprised
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that it's like twenty eight ten Rams or or twenty
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: four fourteen somewhere in that ballpark. Another really small little thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: These are two of the best kickoff teams in the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: NFL as far as opposing starting field position. They both
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: do it really well. So that's just like, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: an extra ten maybe fifteen yards on some drives that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the other offense will have to go. Weather should be good,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: though it's like going to be like sixty I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: not much wind, but it is outdoors. But I'm looking
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: at the under. I do think the Rams should advance
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: unless it is an extremely fluky game and the Rams
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: still had a chance to win that game despite all
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: those flukes. But I'm looking at under there. I don't
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: really love anything.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Though, Okay, if I had to list the top five
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: games of just that I enjoy the most during the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season, I think both Bears and Green
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Bay games would be there. The first time they matched
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: up in Lambeau was just the second half was thrilling,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and obviously the ending in the second one is one
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: of the crazier things you saw all season long. These games.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: The Ben Johnson thing has resurrected this rivalry which did
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: not exist because, as Aaron Rodgers would tell you, I
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: fucking own you, and he did. It was a joke.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And I just think there's something cool about this matchup.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Now they get to play. I heard a stat that
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: they've only played twice in the history of the playoffs,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and they've both been in Chicago, one going back to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the forties, and then one was that Cutler game in
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: two thousand. I guess it would have been like January
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: twenty eleven. But listen, the Bears never led in either
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: game to the final play, right, so it took beyond
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: side kick. I just I don't know. There's something about me,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and I'm a guy that had money on green Bay
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: to make it to the Super Bowl, a cash out
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: of that one as it started getting ugly. But I
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I've said I don't even like the Bears because of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: their defense to make a legitimate run, But I don't
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: know if Green Bay's the team they could take advantage
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: of that. Now. Obviously they get essentially gave themselves a
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: bye last week, right, so that's gonna help. I think,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: you know, Tom's coming back. They got some reinforcements coming.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: You think it serves Jacobs, you know, a little bit,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to get a breather. I think the problem is I
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: see with them, and I've always supported Jordan Love, but
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Malik Willis has gave their team a rushing element. I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: not calling him Lamar Jackson, but he was huge for
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: them right movement wise, and that's not really how Jordan
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Love plays. So this could be extremely cold. The thing
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: that was so cool about the second game is, you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: in most of our adult lives, you know, unless you
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: go way back to like the Irlacker Briggs days, these
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Bears home games just haven't mattered. And at night, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: we get so used to watching like the Ravens and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the Steelers and those plays rocking at night or Lambeau
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: rocking at night or Kansas City. Now you just kind
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of forget that place will had a collegiate feel to it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, that place is gonna be on fucking fire.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I'm taking the Bears in this game play. You know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: as a home dog Ben Johnson. You know, I get
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Lafloor might be fighting for his pre Bay job, right.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I mean now, he would immediately get another job with
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: one of these franchises, but there is a chance that
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: they don't extend him, right if he were to lose
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: this game by like ten points. Obviously, the Green Bay
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Packers are well coached, but I'm gonna ride Ben Johnson
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and a little bit of that Washington Commanders last year,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Ferry Dust on the franchise this year.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the first home ploff game for the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Bears since the double doink, so crowd will be fired up.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I played the Packers plus one earlier this week since
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I made them a favorite. I just went over the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Bears like a pretty fluky year. I mean, they also
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: were plus twenty two turnover margin, which led the league.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: The Packers were I think dead even The Bears led
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL and takeaways and fewest amount of giveaways, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: they still needed like six miraculous wins against bad teams.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And I do you mentioned last week. I don't think
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: that that's insignificant getting a vibe. They tried. They tried, Yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the Bear, but the Bears like week eighteen. Both these
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: teams had up. The vibe was in Week five. They
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: both had early season buys and then have dealt with
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: a number of injuries. The Packers literally took the week off,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: spent the week prepping for this game, and I mean
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they did nothing the Packers. If anyone watched that, yeah,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I've bet the Vikings in that game the Packers that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I think seven passing you aren't or something. I mean,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: they literally just didn't do editing.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Gave Minnesota last week that was like a favorite bet
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: of the week.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did they did nothing. I mean they you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: could tell that they just sat everyone. So they are
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: going to be rested. They're going to be healthier on offense.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Getting Tom back is huge, love has been if you
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: look at EPN and has been the best quarterback in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the NFL. With a clean pocket. Well, the Bears can't
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: get fresher. He's gonna have a clean pocket here, He's
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: gonna have his weapons, his offensive line is gonna be healthier,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and it's I just trust him over Caleb right now.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I mean Caleb, he's had a munty. He was improved
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: this year, but I mean he was still bottom three
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: in bad throw rate. You look at completion percentage over
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: expectation and EPA composite. Love was third, Caleb was twenty eighth,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: early down drop back success rate, Packers seventh, Bears twenty six.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: There's so I could go on and on. I mean,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the Bears.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Defense, it's the big plays with Chicago offensively.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, but the Packers still do a good job of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: limiting explosive plays. The Bears do not, and the Packers
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: hit as many explosives as any team. Like I think
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that fate could face the favorite Green Bay. Now, Chicago's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: gonna have success running the ball, and the Packers defense
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: has fallen off since week eleven, Like they were trending
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: towards the top five, top ten unit, and then you
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: lost Wyatt and then you obviously lost Parsons, who's massive,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and the trickle down effect from there is it can't
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: be overstated. So they've been bad. They've been like a
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: bottom ten defense since week eleven. The Bears are gonna
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: success running the ball. They do almost against anybody, But
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I think the Packers can limit the explosive plays here.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I think Love can do his thing against it. I mean,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: this Bears defense is bad. I mean, if you remove turnovers,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they're thirtieth in EPA per play, they're twenty six and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: early down dropback success or without turnovers. Like they can't
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: stop anything. They can't get pressure against, out run against,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: out the pass. So and this Packer. While the Bears
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: are pretty lucky in turnovers in close games, the Packers
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: were pretty unlucky. Like they went zero to three in
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: games they didn't punt. The rest of the NFL went eight. No,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: it only happened eleven times. So yeah, and here's another
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: stat that it's gonna come up in a couple of games.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Caleb has been better this year, still has his warts,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and I think John and we'll slowly keep him, keep
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: getting him better. But this is his first playoff start
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: since two thousand and three. Quarterbacks making their first plaoff
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: start against the quarterback who has playoff experience twenty and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: thirty nine straight up, twenty and forty twenty thirty nine
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and one, excuse me, twenty and forty straight up twenty
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: thirty nine and one against the spread. Very very bad
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: also applies to May versus Herbert, so love. You just
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: never know this first playoff game, even at home, there's nerves,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: there's Jitters and historically hasn't gone well, especially when you're
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: facing a quarterback who already has that playoff experience under
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: his belt. So I did play the Packers when they
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: were a dog.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I think the crappy part for Bears fans if you
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: lose this game, if they would have drawn the forty
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: nine Ers or they would have drawn the Rams and
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: you lose in the first round, I think people been like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: dig it a couple of weeks and be like that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: was an awesome season. I think losing to the Packers
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: would take it a little bit. Especially coming into Chicago,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that would suck. There's just a lot of there's a
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: sneaky lot on the line before. I think the way
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: we look at the Bears moving forward for la Floor,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's another kind of elephant in the room.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: No one's really talking about. Ed Policy said this offseason like, yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: we got to see now it's the NFL not college.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: He technically come back on a one year deal. Shane
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Stikeen and Ballard are doing it, but Green Bay doesn't
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: really operate like that. So it's it's gonna be interesting.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: It would be a sour ending for the Bears, and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: then especially because then you're like, we lost the Packers,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we didn't win a playoff game, he lost it at home,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and now we have a first place schedule next year.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too because they had the last play schedule
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, and they still want to And for
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the division, I didn't really for some reason, I thought
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: three and three. But Sunday if I was, if we
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: treated the NFL like we did college football, I think
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: there would be people voting Jacksonville's number one team in
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the country. Like they are red hot. You watch them,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: they look fantastic. I mean, the team speed, the physicality, obviously,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: how good their quarterback looks. But defensively, I mean, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I get it was the Titans, but there was a
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: moment in that game when the linebacker had the pick
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and they were just vibing. You're like, God, this feels
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: like a college team right now. That is just rolling.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: That being said, I'm taking Josh Allen. I don't feel
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: great about this at all. And if Josh, if the
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Bills lose this game, which it wouldn't shock me, if
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: we look up and the scores like thirty five to twenty,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and I'll bet on Jacksonville from then on, foward. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: think they could win the Super Bowl. But if not now,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: then when there's no Lamar, there's obviously no Mahomes. It's
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: never been this wide open for them. They have clearly
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: the last couple of years. It's like Baltimore Kansas City,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: who were better teams than them. Kansas City we could debate,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: but definitely that year, you know, they beat Baltimore and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: then they lost to Kansas City. I thought Baltimore was
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: better last year in that second round game. And I
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: just think that that thing could get really weird, really fast.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I just wonder if you just get Josh Allen on
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: a mission, and maybe I'm being an idiot even thinking
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: like this, and Jacksonville rolls them. But speaking about the Bear,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: speaking about you know, some of these places, Kansas City forever,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: what Seattle's gonna have? You know what you guys had
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: in Baltimore when you get home games, Jacksonville doesn't really
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: have a home field advantage. So I don't think that really,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like phases Buffalo, this isn't going on the road to
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, which they are very very comfortable. I mean,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: they've been in these environments now for how many years,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: playing in these the biggest playoff games of the year, right,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: They've lost a lot of them. But I'm taking the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Bills here. I do not feel great about this, and
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I think if he gets by this game, I think
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: they could go on a legit role and they could
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks. This is the first This is the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: matchup in the first round, because the Jags are as
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: hot as any team, and then the Bills with Alan
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I don't worry about my homes and Lamar like this.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: This looks like their year and one of these teams
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: is going to be sitting at home Sunday night. So yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I think the winner of this game is very live
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to win the AFC.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Are you surprised that the Bills, Like, I mean, the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Bills are favored in this game. Is it just based
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: on history? Because if it was reversed and Jacksonville's going
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: to Buffalo, but you know, the Bills were playing like Jacksonville,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and I think Jacksonville just had the season the Bills had.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like the Bills would be favored by like
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: seven points if it was reverse.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean the Jags. Look, the Jags come in,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: They've won eight in a row. Now you could. Now
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the schedule hasn't been great.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Some Titans colts in there.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Of Titans, a lot of colts, and they are the Jets.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: But you have to there is merit to it when
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you blow out the Chargers, blow them out of the water.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: And then you went to Denver and you beat them
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: handily in Denver? And so what has happened to that?
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And by the way, eight games, so they won eight
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: in a row. The Bills have lost eight straight road
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: playoff games. It's been a very long time. McDermott is
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: zero and five on the road now, most of them
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: one and four against the spread. Most of them have
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: come against Kansas City, one against Jacksonville way back I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: think in like twenty seventeen. And the Jags have they
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: have been very good at home this year. There's seven
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: and one against the spread. That's the best cover mark
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: in the league, covered by fourteen points per game, and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: they're six and two against the spread in the first half,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: covered by over seven points per game. The Bills in
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the first half on the road against the spread three
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and five. Why do I bring that up? I played
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the Jags first half, so first half money nine. But
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: maybe just let me first touch on the Jags improvement.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: So what has happened, Well, since they went and got
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Jacobe myersho's been a revelation for them. I mean their
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: their top four drop back success rate and drop back EPA,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: so Lawrence has really benefited from that. But there's other
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: things that happened. BTJ got healthier. Cole Strange, their star
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: tight end, came back from injury. Also just a natural
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: improvement of the Liam Cohen offense as they started to
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: get a handle of it in his first year there,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and then they moved Cole van Lannon, they inserted him
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: at starting tackle, kicked Walker a little inside in Van
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Land and they just signed him an extension. Has been
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a revelation at tackle. Little has really struggled. There looks
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: better suited for the guard. So like a tight end,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you know, offensive line changes, you add Myers, you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you get healthier pass catchers. Like, there's reasons why this
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: offense is starting to hum and it's not like this
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Bill's defense is great. Additionally, the Jaguars defense, Monteric Brown
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: has been a revelation at corner. After Jordan Lewis went down,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Jerry and Lewis kicked back into the slot. They They
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: are also getting healthier, and they've been dominant against the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: run all year, top five rush success rate. There's Antonio
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Johnson at safety's playing really well out of nowhere, So
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: there's there's real thing. Their's special teams are incredible. They
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: have a kicker who's an alien. He can make them
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: from seventy seventy yards and sixty.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Eight the other day.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seven sixties. And I love Liam Cohen and if
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: you look Trevor Lawn and Trevor Lawrence, a lot of
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: those improvements since all those things I mentioned have come
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: against zone defense. Right over the first nine weeks of
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the year, he was a nineteenth and success rate against
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: zone since week ten he's third. Why is that important?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Of the Bills play a ton of zone So why
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: am I playing the Jags first half? Well? Number one,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: The Jags in the first half of games have been incredible.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of that is the Liam Cohen script, and
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in particular has benefited from that. In the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: first half. Lawrence thirteenth in EPA plus completion percentage over
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: expectation for the full season fourteenth adjusted EPA per play,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: if even better than that since week ten that the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: full season. In the second half, Lawrence thirty second in
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: A EPA plus completion percent of joe of expectation and
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: twenty first and success rate. His numbers fall off. That's
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of the script wearing off right and a
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: lot of what Liam Cohen does early on in games.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: How about Josh Allen first, hast He's twenty fifth in
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: EPA plus completion was un joe of expectation twenty first
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and adjusted EPA per play twenty fourth and success rate
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: second half, second, second, first, fourth quarter first first first.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: The Bills have not started well many times a year,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and why will they come out? And they want to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: run the ball. That's by design, that's what they want
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: to do, and they want to wear teams down. But
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you still have Josh Allen, but they their script isn't great.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: They just want to run the ball that's going to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: go into the teeth of the Jags defense. So JAG's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: at home with his script. I think they get a lead.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Where are the Jags still vulnerable? I do still think
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: it's their secondary. So Allen from behind in the second half,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not betting against that against this Jags defense. So
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: once like Alan has to be unleashed. I think it
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: could be a flood coming for this Buffalo offense. But
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I think that there's some distinct advantages in that Cohen
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: script early on that Jacksonville can take advantage of. So
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I did play them first half moneyline against Buffalo. I've
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: just seen it too many times. And also keep in
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: mind Buffalo's kicking situation. Prayther got hurt. Prady got hurt
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: last week. We'll see if he's healthy enough or they
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: have to work out a kicker's big kicking advantage for Jacksonville.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: But I did play Jags first half. That's kind of
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: how I see this, where like I think Cone's gonna
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: have some amazing screens drawn up and they're gonna have
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: success early on. But Josh Allen once he has to once,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: they just have to unleash him against the you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a zone heavy defense. Uh, it could be trouble. So
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that's how I think it probably plays out. I think
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: like Jags get out to a lead and then they're
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: gonna have to hold on and it's probably Allen that
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: leads the Bills back to victory. And I agree with
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you if they win this, If they win that game.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I think they probably go to the Super Bowl.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, another team that was Super Bowl aspirations because they're
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the defending champs. The Eagles minus four and a half
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: at home according to Hardrock Bet. The forty nine ers
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: injury list got way uglier last week. They lost both
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: linebackers who won. You know, Tatum Bethune was already banged up.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: He's Fred Warner's replacement. He's out out for the year, right, yeah, done.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And if this was October, he'd be in Troy. He'd
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: probably be a season d winners got injured. He's in
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: major trouble. Ricky Piersoll, by all accounts, reinjured his PCL
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I think he is major up in the air.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And we saw how important he was when they got
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: rolling in those games against the Bears and the Colts
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: for their offense, and you felt his absence, you know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Trent I I would guess that he's gonna tough it out.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: But I mean he's got a legitimate hamstring injury, not
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: even counting all the other injuries that they have. I
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: just don't think you can have that many injuries on
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: defense when your defense was already you know, on the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: front seven was in shambles and have a chance, and
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the Eagles would be crazy to not basically run at
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: every play, And if they do, I don't know. They've
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: been waiting all year. Unleash Jalen to move around a
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: little bit. That could also be a huge advantage. So
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: like the forty nine ers have guys. Eric Kendricks is
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: going to start. Eric Ndricks was unemployed. I mean, but
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: that shows you where they're at. So, I mean their
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: best players are up in suites with casts and Nie
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: leeves on. I just don't know how they play defense
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: because their margin for era on offense, which is now
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: banged up, like it's a lot different in there with
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: pearsall with a healthy Kittle and Juwan than when he's missing.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: It's crazy how you know dependent they are on them
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: and Philly rests everybody. They're getting Lane Johnson back, who
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is not a big challenge for him
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: against the guys the Niners are rolling out. I mean,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Huff's not bad, but I just don't think. I think
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers just had a gas. They're like
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: a car that's been on empty for a while. That
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that Bears game they were able to win because the
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Bears defense is atrocious. But you saw last week inst Seattle,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: they just they made Kenneth Walker and Sharbonay look like
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the best running back duo in American history. It wasn't.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I mean that it was a joke that that third
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: and what was a seventeen when I was a backbreaker
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: John Lynch wanted to jump out of a third.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Seventeen sweep that that that goes for a first time,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: that should only happen in like the Mac on a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Tuesday night.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: And honestly kind of easily. It's not like you had
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: to break three taps. I mean, I just think so
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, the running ability. The one advantage the forty
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: nine ers have is that Philly, that place can just
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: get weird. It doesn't feel like the fans really love
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: this team. They've been a tough watch. They've gone into
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: these huge spells. If they do have trouble scoring against
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, then I think is fair just
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I'm out on the Eagles. I'm just completely out.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I like, I like Philly in this game, and I
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: think the forty nine ers it's impressive what they've done
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: with their injuries. The reason Kyle makes a lot of
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: money because a lot of these coaches did losing all
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: over the league would lose in this situation with all
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: these injuries, and he got to twelve wins and you
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: can tell me the schedule that they still won. I
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: mean that Bears game is a game that most coaches
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: in the league can't pull off.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Now, Shannon did an incredible job. I wanted
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to fade the Eagles. I'm totally out on the offense,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: but I just can't hear in this particular matchup with
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: all the injuries. I mean Luke Giffert too, the other
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: linebacker for the fort Niners, you know, on the quad
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: injury Like they could have their top four linebackers all out,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: including Warner. It's bleak. Now, I will say the Eagles
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: offense legitimately just beats itself against It doesn't matter who
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: they play, will beat itself for like a whole half
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: every week. Ah So, I mean, go look at the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Dallas game. Dallas is an atrocious defense. They didn't score
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: in the second half in that game. There's a number
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: of examples of like they just can't do it, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: like the what they do have an advantage with Sola
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: versus Patula, Like that's a huge advantage. So what is
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Salo going to do here? I assume, like because the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: forty nine defense since all these injuries has been really bad,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: especially Warner and Bosa. But then you just add all
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: more interests and makes it worse. The one thing they've
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: done is they limit exposed to place both on the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: ground and through the air, and they hold up well
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: on the red zone. Like that's got to be their
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: goal here, just limited exposed to plays, make the Eagles
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: drive the field, get stops in the red zone. Now,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are number one in the league in red
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: zone touchdown rate seventy percent. I don't buy that. That's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a very highs A lot of variants in that stat
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: from season to season, and like last year they'd have
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: way better offense they were fifty five percent. So I
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: could see some potential, like there's some looming regression coming
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: with the Eagles, Like they could just end up setting
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: link for a bunch of field goals here. So I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: ended up playing the under here outdoor under there's going
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: to be impactful wins. It's hard for me to see
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: that forty nine offense having much success. I don't think
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Piercell's going to be hundred percent. I'm not even sure
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Williams will go and this and this Eagles defense will
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: be rested. Fangio historically has gotten the better of Shanahan.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I think they've met five times head to head, whether
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Channon's a coordinator head coach. Shannan has you have to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: clear fifteen points, has averaged about ten and a half
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: points per game. So yeah, and like the Eagles are
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: number one against tight ends, they're number one against short passes.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Like the one weak area of this Eagles defense is
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: their their second corner on the outside, which is will
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: be beautiful, be very nice to have a healthy Piersoll
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of that. But that that that's not
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: even the case here with the pcl injury. Not even
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: sure he suits up.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: So their their linebacker play is just so good against
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: the Niners run game, which you know you throw Jordan
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Davis some of the bodies they have. I mean, Fangio's
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: turned Hunt into a pretty high end player. See he's
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: got he's got three picks and he had three more
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: picks in the Jets.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I insane. So like it's hard for me to
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: see that the Ford and you look at this nine
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: ers off as you mentioned pearsall they exploded down the stretch,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: but when they had to play, when they had to
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: step up, you know, against the Seahawks, when even all year,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: when they stepped up in class against defenses like they
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: average only seventeen points against the seven top ten defenses
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: that they played. I think that's like their ceiling here.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: They're they're all lying. Got worked against Seattle. I mean
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: that's destroy the Jalen Carter and Hunt and the linebackers blitzing,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: got to be licking their jobs to go up against
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: these guys. I mean pleasant if he's got to play.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I mean it was a tough matchup with Jesus. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: mean there's you talk about a fall from Trent to
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: that guy. I mean pretty big. Yeah, mckibbitts. The Niners
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: love them, but I mean, I let's not let's not
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: pretend he's Lane Johnson or anything.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So so I played the under like I think
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers ceiling here without flukes and Eagles
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over seventeen points? Can the forty
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: hours hold the Eagles under twenty eight? Like keep them
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the twenty eight or below. I think so, like the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Eagles only got the thirty plus four times this year
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: against the Raiders. They got to thirty one against the Giants,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: which is their only explosion. Really, they got to thirty eight.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: They got to thirty one against the Bucks, and then
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: they got to thirty three against the Rams when because
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of a fuel goal block with no time left. So
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: really only three times all year, and they played some
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: bad defenses. And there's a there's a real scenario here
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: where the Eagles are up two touchdowns and there's no
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: one better that just bleeds out the entire second half
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: with like a twelve minute drive. They're like a service academy.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that won two games
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: as you were not completing a pass in the second
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: half the NFL record, So I played the under I
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: would lean Philly with you. It's I think the injuries
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: to sanfran are too much to overcome on the road here,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and the defense just isn't good enough. It's too hard
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: to win the NFL and you can't get pressure.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Look this morning, Hard Rock Bad had the Chargers getting
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: four points on the road in New England. I Mike
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep this pretty simple here. Harbaugh Herbert on
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: the road against a team like the one thing you
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: would say about New England that they're not exactly rolling
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: out Jalen Carter and Hunt coming after you from a passer.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Standpoint seventh adjusted pressure, right, so you.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Can't take advantage of their offensive line. I have seed Harbaugh,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I like, like Shanahan in a situation where he you know,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Shanahan doesn't have enough right now, but Harbaugh has enough
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: to like win a playoff game. I like the Chargers
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: in the spot plus four.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they win the game, but this
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: is the spot. Now. There's a pressure on Herbert right
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: plays that playoff game last year, all the haters came
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: out of the woodworks because it was ugly. I mean,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: it's probably the worst game he's ever played in his
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: entire life, going back to like peewee football. So I
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: think he's got a lot to play for. I just
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: think the the Harbaugh mentality, and this goes back Fanjio
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: was talking about this when I ask about some of
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: his teams back in the day with Jim. They are built,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you know, from a physicality standpoint, from a toughness stand point,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: how just their mentality on defense. Now they got to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: run the ball. You know, I've been a little you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest Hampton guy. But I like the
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Chargers in this spot now New England. There is no disputing.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: You know, from a coaching standpoint, they're gonna be ready.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, Josh is how many games has Josh been
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator in in January games? My guess would
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: be like fifty. I don't know. It's got to be
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: close to an NFL record for being the pure offensive coordinator,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: not offensive coordinator in you know, the head coach like
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan or and Andy Reid. I'm just talking the
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: only I'm only an offensive coordinator. He has to own
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: the record. Uh And obviously I Vrabel's had a ton
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: of success in playoff games. Some of those right came
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: on the road, though he did lose the home game
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: against Cincinnati. In fairness to him, Tannehill played like me
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: or you in that game. He's throwing a bunch of picks.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: It was atrocious. But I like the Chargers in the spot.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I know their offensive line. I'm not like picking them
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: to go on some crazy run here, but I think
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: they are an extremely live dog going on on the
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: road against New England. First time you brought a first
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: time playoff games you have a rookie quarter or not.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: He's not a rookie quarterback, but.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: First started against the quarterback vis Clovv experience. Ye, historically
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: that has not gone well, even at home.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: And he and listen, I know he's been awesome. I'm
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: not some Drake Meyhader at all, but a little like
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Kleb Like at USC, they didn't only play that many
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: important games. He definitely didn't in North Carolina. So it's
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: not like, well he started Obama for two years or
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: LSU or Ohio State like this is his first year
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: kind of in the bright lights. Let's be real.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: This is also the hardest defense by far he'll faced
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: all year. I mean the Chargers are second and epall
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: out over the past ten week ten weeks, I mean
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: the Pats played nobody all year. I mean you want
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: to and then their defense, given their defense, these are
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: they only played one team with a winning record all year.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: That's it. One team Bills, the Bills, and they spill
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: with them. And then their schedule, which is the easiest
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: in twenty five years was even easier than that because
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: they faced the Ravens with Tyler Huntley, they faced the
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Saints of Spencer Rattler, they faced the Browns or the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Bengals with Joe Flacco. They faced the Browns with Dylan Gabriel,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the Jets with Justin Fields, the Dolphins with Quinn Ewers,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: the Jets with Brady Cook. I mean eleven of their
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: fourteen wins basically came over rookies or backup quarterbacks or
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were benched. It unprecedented easy schedules. They're hard
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: to price. But like, who's the third the third best
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: quarterback they faced or the second because Lamar only played
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: like a quarter, like a quarter and a half, so
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: they played Josh Allen. Who's the second best quarterback they faced?
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I guess I would say Baker. And that was in
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the second half the year where he was either hurt
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: or I don't know what happened. He was one of
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks in the league over the second half
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the year and they were missing like a bunch of
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: weapons out And then the next how about the third
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: best quarterback they faced this year? I don'tly Bryce Young.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, uh Flacco, Maybe I have no idea.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: So this will be a big test for their defense,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: which is dealt with injuries late in the season. And
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Drake May and Drake May has been incredible is deep
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: ball is incredible, But this is the Chargers defense under
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Mintter that takes away the deep ball as well as
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: any defense in the league. And May he did get
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: away with a number of throws this year. I mean
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: he finished thirty one touchdowns, eight interceptions, but twenty six
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: big time throws, seventeen turn of worthy plays. You go
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: back to that Ravens game, should have thrown a couple picks.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be shocked if Minter tricks him in
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: to a couple interceptions. The Pat's also pretty lucky when
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: it came to fumbles this year. They also went eighteen
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: of twenty five on fourth downs and their opponents went
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: just ten of thirty.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: And so like they got a little Banders thing to him, Yes.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Very much so. And here's where so Minter is going
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: to run a ton of zone prevent exposive plays, make
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the Pats score in the red zone. And the Chargers
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: two straight seasons have been elite in the red zone.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Chargers offense isn't great in the red zone, but this
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Pat's defense was bottom three in red zone defense and
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: they played I just told you the schedule they played,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I agree. And Herbert, by the way, twelve
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: to two and one against the spread is an underdog
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: of more than a field goal. To wrap it all
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: back to what you said initially, I wrote this game
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: up for Action Network, Narrah, this is my sentence. I said,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I'll happily take an elite quarterback in Staff with the
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: clearly superior defense catching over a field goal in the
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: playoffs against a quarterback making his first career postseason start. Yeah,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: give me the Chargers here.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, well we will get the nightcap on Monday with
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: a team that took a windy missfield goal from not
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: even being in this spot. Now they do get dk
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: metcalf back Cam Hayward looked like he was twenty eight
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: years old in that game.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Who was presentible?
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: You know? TJ was a step slow and that last
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: play to likely and then he blasted Lamar. But felt
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: like you felt the pressure from other guys. Now, maybe
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: if you go back and look at the all twenty
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: two they were keeping an eye on him more. I mean,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey blew that that one play clearly, he bit
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: on it and he was in no man's land and
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Jay Flowers just walked to the end zone. I mean,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: this defense, I just hard to trust the Steelers in
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: this spot now, underdog at home. They haven't lost a
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Monday night football game since like nineteen ninety one? Am
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I getting that stat right?
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think three years.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's been a while now.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: They lost him Monday afternoon game in the COVID year.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Don't count. Don't count.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I know it doesn't count, but I'm saying I was
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: looking back at it. It was weird they moved a game
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: to like five o'clock that year was there was like
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Tuesday games, Wednesday games. But yeah, thirty three straight.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Do the Texan strengths take advantage of what Pittsburgh stinks at,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Like he'll get rid of the ball fast, he's not looking,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: and he might throw a lot of pass attempts, but
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: it's not like he's running around back. There is there
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: a little upset potential here. Now I'm gonna I'm rooting
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: for the Texans here. I'm gonna take the Texans minus three.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: But I could see where this thing is a little
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: close at halftime. You know, we talked about the voodoo,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: the magic in Pittsburgh. Hell, we just saw it bounce
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: off like three guys bounced off guy's chess. I mean, hell,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: even the touchdown for Rogers, I mean the dB slips
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: all down. Now, in fairness, that was happening to Baltimore too,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: then blowing coverages, but that whole thing just got wacky
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: for both guys. You know, if they lose this game,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: is Tomlin next? I mean, are we does Hardball get
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: fired on a Tuesday? Does Tomlin get fired or slash
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: traded or go to TV next week? Who knows? I
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I could see Pittsburgh putting up a little
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: fight here. But I do think if the Texans offense
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: just shows up, I don't know, it's gonna be tough match,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: especially because the dB play, I mean, you Lassiter and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Stingley you know, can neutralize. I mean those guys can play.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: So Last has to play. I believe they just held
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: him out for precautionary reasons last week. So he's been
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: dealing with an injury. I'm assuming he'll let go, like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: not d MP or limited practice in full on Friday
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and play. Uh the drop off to treymont Smith, I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: think is it's a crater if he's in there. Yeah,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me. Like Petrie will be huge in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: this game, defending a lot of what the Steelers want
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to do. They might miss Darnel Washington here. You gotta
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: remember the Steeers offense wasn't doing anything against the Ravens,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: who can't get any pressure until Kyle Hamilton might be
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: like the most valuable defensive play in the league he
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: went out. They average like three point five yards before
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Hamilton went out and then six point eight after. I
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: mean he's basically like an all playing like an All
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Pro linebacker. He does everything for them.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: When you put Petrie kind of in that world, I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: mean he's a pretty unique place.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he can because he can defend the run.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: He'st I love that.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love him. They really missed him last year
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: when he went down. But yeah, I mean, like this
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: is historically Dome teams, these indoor teams that go on
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the road in the playoffs when it's under thirty degrees.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I think they're like one in fourteen their last fifteen games.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: They don't do well, and now you go.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: To Texans had to account for a lot of those right,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: for a lot of those JJ watt shob teams. They
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: would win at home and then the second round would
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: go on the road to New England, go on the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: road to whoever and lose.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Yep. So yeah, how did the Texans handle that? The
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Steels are gonna blitz a ton I assume, and Stroud's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: been very poor against the blitz Ken, their offensive line
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: hold up, Rodgers been bad against pressure. I assume it's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of quick passes, a lot of game. Well,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: the totals thirty nine and a half, so like this,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: this spread was three and a half. I think it
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: made sense. I wish I took some three and a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: half to clear out the three and hals in which
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: would be a low scoring game. Probably comes down to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: like a fluky player too, could see the Steelers winning.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: How about the one Roger scramble where he kind of
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: found himself a no man's land. I was stopped. It's like,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: what was that?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: That was hilarious? So if I had to, I take
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: the points, but would have preferred three and a half.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I'm still gotta dig into that some more on on
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Monday night. By the way, if I had a quick question,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I always I don't think i've askeding before. If you
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: had to pick, if you were if I you were kidnapped,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: and you were held in a TV less prison and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: they allowed they allowed you to leave for one weekend
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: of the NFL playoffs, would you choose wild Card weekend,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Divisional round or conference championships.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I'd probably choose the second round because you get more games.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: So I get Saturday and Sunday, so I get a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: couple of days of life. It feels like by then
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: you got the best teams, kind of get rid of
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: the riff raft.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: This we don't have like Panthers Rams game.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd probably choose Now you get a little
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: more inventory, you know. Do I get three days away
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: from my captures, you know, like a Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: So I mean, but I would probably choose the second round.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in that scenario.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: So let's let's get out of here on college football
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: like we did with the Super Bowl, you know, I mean,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: now we're at fourteen. I think it's fair to say
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: all four teams could win the national championship. Ole Miss
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: pretty heavy underdog relative to the other two. Indiana heavy
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: favorite right now, like plus one twenty to win the Natty.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: I do think Miami. I mean, I will get into this.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: I like Miami a lot in this game, and I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: just think they're, you know, to get them three to
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: one to win the Natty where the Natty is gonna
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: be at home if they which is a pretty pretty
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: cool for them. I mean it's you know, Indiana's had
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: the turnout they've had in these games rightfully, so at
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Ohio State or and the Rose Bowl. It just feels
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: like these Indiana home games that would be the first
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: time where it's like this. That Miami thing would be
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: pretty special. Uh, Mario the offensive line. I also think
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Oregon and I was telling Coward this. You know a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: lot of Dan Lannings things like his whole mantra and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: his pregame speeches. They're favored in a lot of these games,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: so he's having to like manipulate them a little bit.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: And I think he's learned this from Saban and Kirby.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Now he's like a legitimate underdog, Like I don't think
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: you're gonna meet many people that aren't, Like, yeah, I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: think Indiana's gonna Most people pick in Indiana or win
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: the national championship, and they are legitimately an underdog on paper.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I would just imagine most people are not picking Oregon.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Did he You know the thing with Saban and Kirby,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: they didn't get to be the dog a lot of times,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: but when they did, they could go into fucking rare form.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And against a team that beat you on your home field.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've played. I saw their linebacker being interviewed yesterday.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: He's like, you know, coming off that Penn State game,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: we might have had a little bit of just overlooked them.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Uh. I wouldn't either, because then you say nothing to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: say you have all that advantage in house. I wouldn't
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: have said anything.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just this game, you know. To me, Miami,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: he's just a tough violence raw raw. We're gonna kick
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: ass ole miss. I don't even know Pete's thing, but
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: those two guys, Sig and Dan are classic, like use
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: every different angle, create a story chip on her shoulder.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: I do think Oregon it's just everyone's overlooking him, and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: obviously Indiana is. I mean the two game stretch he's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: had the greatest two game stretch in the history of
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: the program. The beat Ohio State to win the conference
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: and then they it felt like they ended Alabama, who
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: feel like they're kind of in champbs right now struggling
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: to get transfer portal guys. But that's a whole nother Uh.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Ty Simpson just left, But I think they want to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: go with the five Stars, So it's not even Ty
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Simpson wasn't coming back right to be their starting quarterback,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: so it's not even that weird it depending where he went.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: I just I think Miami and Oregon would be interesting.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not counting out Oregon in this spot. So just
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: to win an astal can all four teams win the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: national championship.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so they like there's it's hard to
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: it's hard to really price and quantify the of like
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: what's old miss right now, like they have more, got
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: more guys in the staff aren't gonna be on with them,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Like what what does that do and how much of
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: an impact We We've never seen anything like this, so
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: there's no precedent. Like it's pretty crazy. So does does
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: that hurt over time? I don't know. But this Trinidad Chambliss,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: I mean that's second half against Georgia, it looked like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: prim Lamar looks like it was insane the way that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: he's playing like, and that's gonna that's critical. He's like unsackable, unpressurable,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and that's what you need to do against Miami because
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Baine and messidor just wrecking him, saying as a statue,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: so he he just creates plays and buys time. That's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be huge against Miami. Mario versus Joe Judge clock management,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: So whoever's up with a minute ago is probably gonna lose.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: But the thing is they ran the ball. Obviously, Lacey
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: is a really good player. I was reading that. You know,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Miami is a top five run defense, but really like
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: the way they're playing right now, there's probably no one
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: better like in the country. You know, when you factor
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: in how they've really brought it the last couple of weeks,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: if they could run the ball and got some big
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: spots against Georgia, who clearly, and you've been hammering, this
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: is not built like Miami right now. Their defensive line
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like that. This is a different level. And
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: so part of Trinidad, who like you said, was awesome
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: that game was theater. They didn't get any more entertaining
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: than that. Is he gonna be able to do that?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Like you're like, well you just did it against Georgia.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Well that ain't the Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith Georgia. That's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit different. And I think that's why Kirby
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: wasn't that mad after. It's not like he thought he
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: just lost with his best team. He knows pretty fought well.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: This Miami thing like that front that defense in general.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: I do think if they can't run the ball, and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna be difficult. I kind of
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: like I did a little alt.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Lines, Mom's gonna be able to run the ball here?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I think it's possible. Miami was this
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: game like ten plus points and you can get plus
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: odds if you get like minus six and a half,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: because right now it's at three and a half. But
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: you gotta lay some juice on Miami if you go
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: up to a round of touchdown. Like I kind of
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I think Miami has a chance to just kind of
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: physically overwhelm these guys because I don't think old Missus
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: really felt that because the SEC physically wasn't an overwhelming conference,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: which is weird to say this season.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Yep, no, you're You're right, it's gonna come down the chandelists.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Kenny Ken, what kind of plays can he make? An
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: extending plays against that Miami front. I also kind of
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: like the over here. I know Miami's played under games,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: but Ole miss is gonna pump up the tempo, try
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: to wear down that defensive line. We saw them get
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: kind of worn down against Ohio State when Ohio State
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: went to the two minutes dral. Other than that State,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: it's a snail. But I think they're gonna they're gonna
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: use tempo air and then you're gonna see this Miami
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: offense I think need to do more and they should
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: be able to. They're gonna be able to run the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: ball on this Ole Misty. They're probably gonna hit more
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: explosive plays. This is also on a track in Glendale
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that the field conditions are very slippery and the games
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: will always go over here. So I kind of like
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: you over I think it's gonna be an exciting game,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: almost special teams don't sleep on them. By the way,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: that Carnero, that kicker, he's incredible. But yeah, Miami would,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: and it would be an amazing story if they got the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: nationalital in Miami after all the controversy of them getting in,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: and then they could play Oregon, who's like bouncing all
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: around the country. They're playing in Atlanta, and they could
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: end up having to go to Miami for the national
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: title to play Miami. I don't think that Oregon doesn't
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: have a chance, but I do think Indiana is going
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: to win. But I need three to bet it. I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: need three, like a flat three. I make it like four,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: a little over four. Well, how does Indiana keep doing this?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I mean one of the if you go back to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: that original Oregon game and I watched it again the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: other day, it was they just beat him up the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And one of the main differences between
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: these rosters and is Oregon is very young, Like they
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: have more talent, more blue chips, but they're very young.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: This year, this is supposed to be kind of a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: rebuilding year for Oregon.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Twenty four touchdowns by true freshman like an NCAA recorded
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: or led the country insane.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost a ton of draft picks, rebuilt their
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: their their lines, and Indiana is like a team of
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: all like twenty four year olds. So and that showed
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: in the first meeting. They pressured more on twenty of
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: his forty dropbacks, sacked him I think five or six times.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: He was under fire the entire game. Indiana was able
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: to run the ball, Oregon wasn't. And then Indiana was
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: able to get pressure. Oregon wasn't consistently. So that was
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: the difference. And then Indiana just wins games with execution.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: They are the most this team, and part of that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: is the veteran nature and the coaching staff and Signetty's incredible.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: But like, here's where the game could be decided. Third
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: down defense Indiana twenty nine percent. That's fourth in the country.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Oregon's fortieth. Third down offense Indiana fifty five percent, best
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: in the country by far. That fifty five percent is illegally.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: You've probably seen that five times over the past ten years.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Oregon forty three percent. Still go to twenty eight. How
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: about giveaways, they don't turn it over point six per game,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: that's fourth Oregon very good. Point six, but twenty eight
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: penalties per game Indiana three point four, that's third in
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: the country. Oregon five point two thirty third, So Oregon's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: very good in all those little things, but Indiana's elite.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Like they don't turn over, they don't they don't commit penalties,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: they don't let you convert on third downs, and they
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: convert on third downs because and their average su distance
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: to go on third downs the lowest in the nation.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Because they're able to run the ball, and they should
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: be able to run the ball a bit on Oregon here,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm not laying three and a half. I think
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: it'll be a competitive game. The biggest X factor in
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: this game, and especially as an underdog, there's something about
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: coaches named Dan degenerate, Dan Lanning. You know, he's going
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: to go for it a bunch of the fourth, which
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: he should as an underdog. And there's I mean, he
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: played he went forward seven times I think against Texas Tech, I.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Think less early. You know their defense was good. Agreed,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: you could win this game Dan, like nine to three.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: What are you doing once you go off two possessions
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: in that game?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: It was over? Yeah, I disagree with them. That's his
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: nature though, and like that's kind of his identity, similar
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: to Dan Campbell, so you know, but I think that's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: that works in his favor here. When you're an underdog. Yeah,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: so that that's gonna There's gonna be a couple of
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: swing plays there on fourth downs that could end up
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: deciding this game. Uh. I like Indiana the win, but
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be completely shocked if Oregon one. I think
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: both both are gonna be good games.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Indiana wins. They'd obviously be favored against Old.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Miss seven seven seven and a half of roll Miss.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: What's the line against Miami?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Uh? I would say probably, I'm gonna say three and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: a half.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: The thing would be is like Miami and Indiana kind
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: of similar. Like like you said, Indiana dominates the line
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage. And I didn't realize the kid that broke
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: his leg high five in the fan was a transfer
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: portal guy from the.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Mac from Kennas State.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: They had turned him into like led the league or
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: led the cun in TfL. So I was like, they
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: are finding guys. It'd be one thing. It's like when
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: you know you get quinch On Jenkins from Ole Miss,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: he's been the SEC freshman the year and finding transfer
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: portals like that. It's another thing to find Chambliss from
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Farris State or a dude from Kent State Like that's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: high level transfer portal personnel work. That's badass. I respect
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Indiana because they're transferred, even Mendoza and I get his
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: brothers on the team. Like it's not like he was
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: coming from USC, He's coming from Cow. Well did they
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: even have it they go to Bowl game the previous year.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think they did.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: No. Now that Signetti is like famous for this and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: like grind state and finds these chants or forty nine ers.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: The year before, they they plucked CJ. West from Kent
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: State who turned into a stud and got drafted.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Oh he's a portal guy too.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: God Yeah, from Kent State, and yeah this there they
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: might they didn't miss him last week. But like they're
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: blitz they're blitz packages and pressure packages are amazing. They
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: had or I'm curious see the Oregon adjustments because they
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: they could not block Indiana. Their their third down blitz
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: packages in Indiana some of the best in the country. Now,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: obviously Oregan's gonna have a counter to that, but you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: would also expect Indiana to not do some of the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: same things. So I can't wait for that chess match.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Signetti finds just incredible gems in the portal. Actually,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I think I think Indiana, Like if Indiana dominates again,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: they might be depends how dominant these teams are, but
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: it might be like four and a half over Miami,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: seven and a half overall miss But obviously that could change.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's like what it would be today. But
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: if one of these teams looks really good, then that'll
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: change injuries as well.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Would it be the craziest thing we've ever seen? You know?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: I don't you know, I know when Jim Valvano jumped
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: up and down in NC State, like back in the eighties.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: But I mean I was born eighty four. It doesn't
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: feel like we've had now. It's a little different. I mean,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: he's spending a lot of money, right, I mean he
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: is buying these guys the transfer portal. You wouldn't even
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: had access to the Kent State guys, right because you
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: couldn't transfer to have to sit out. So it's it's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: not an apples to apples comparison. It's more realistic, like
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: what he's doing now, you're more capable to do that
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: with the rules. But still, even with the rules, no
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: one in a million years, Even last year, I thought like, ah,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: great year. It's like they'll come back to earth a
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: little bit and they are clearly dramatically better, just in
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: terms of like unfazed by the bright lights. I mean
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: that game against Bama was like Jesus, I get Bama's
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: not great, but that was that looked like a SABAN
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: team would do to a team that didn't belong to
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: be there. That's what happened to them last year against
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. It's like you don't belong to be here.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean an album quit that game. I mean
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: back to say, held to Alabama in Ohio State with
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: all those receivers, the thirteen total combined points.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I can't quarterbacks really good and you got the number one.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing. They have the number one pick,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: a quarterback on a team that clearly is really good
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of I text an NFL buddy, I'm like,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: how many high end guys like they don't have too
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: many high end guys like they're they're left tackle. That's
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: the you know, he's I think a lot of people
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: view him as a future guard, but he's an NFL player.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: But it's not. No one's viewing him like Trey Williams
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: or something right. So they got a lot of guys
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: like that, you know, sarat really good college player. He's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: not gonna go He's not gonna be like a top
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: ten pick. He's not my league neighbors.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Yea, Camarons. A lot of these guys will get drafted,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: but they're not like top ten picks.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just full of guys that are gonna go
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: from like pick one hundred to two hundred. Beside the quarterback.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: But if you're well coached, you're tough. They're just I mean,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: they're beating teams with technically more talent on the roster
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: than them from a recruiting standpoint.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just out executing everyone and they're they're grown men.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: It's pretty Yeah, I can't think of a parallel. Like
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: like six said, it would be a hell of a
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: movie for a coaching job like this and then for
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: this team to come out of nowhere and now be
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: the favorite doing the national title Indiana Indiana football. But
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: this Oregon winning would be the least surprising thing as
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: far as like how you look at college football, even
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: though they're an underdog in a semi because the other
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: options are Miammy wins it, who like no one thought
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: they were going to make it the collegeble play. They
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: didn't even make the ACC Championship. Oh Miss wins it
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: after Lane Kiffin left with a skeleton staff. Or Indiana
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: football wins the national title like crazy, like Oregon would
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: be the most normal outcome.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: If you didn't know much about college football, though, and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: you just watched Miami the last couple of weeks, you'd
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: be like, they feel like an NFL team.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, the one thing that could hold him back that
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I need to see and he'll need to be He'll
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: need to do more in this game because they're not
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: going to hold all Miss to nothing. Is Carson back
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: in a big game, Like, I mean he's only thrown
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: for like two hundred and twenty or't he doesn't had to.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: They just run it and their defense dominated. But Beck
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: is going to have to not make mistakes in critical games,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: which he has.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Been their second best wide receiver beside the true freshman Daniels.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: But I mean he's not great, Like their passing attack
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: isn't great. They just want to they want to run it,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: play defense, and they want to get the ball to
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Tony as much in many creative ways as possible, but
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Beck is gonna there's gonna be a moment where Beck's
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: gonna have to make some throws. That's that's my biggest
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: question for Miami. Uh but I think we got we
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: got two good semifinalss with tons of storylines like the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: old Miss is just it's a crazy Can you imaginef
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss went the national title without Lane and then
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Lane never wins a national title again in his career?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Like that is.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: I want to chance. I mean, Lane's no lock to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: just be in the final four the next couple of hours,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: right far from it. How about this, I'll get you
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: out here on this. Obviously, you know there's a fluid
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: story the Washington quarterback that he's probably headed to l
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: s U and they're gonna get sued. It is classic Lane.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: I don't blame him for doing it. There are no rules. Uh,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: but that is At first, I'm like, god, this is
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: a crazy story. You signed this four million dollar and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: then of course it's yeah, he's gonna go to Lane.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, yeah.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: It's messy. I mean college basketball, that's a whole other
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: story with like NBA guys now playing on college teams.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Did you watch the Baylor kid?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, look he looked Okay, I mean it wasn't.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's like gonna. He's not changing.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Brand.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like how now with lawsuits like this is
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: just a new world. But what what what ends up?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Of course Lane is in the middle of it. What
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: ends up? And we have like Sam Levitt who was
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: now I think it's gonna he was supposed to come
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: potentially Kentucky, but I think he's now gonna go to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Alabama or where LSU because Simpson's going to be the NFL.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: But what so what like now they're suing him, Like
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: say you sue for him to stay, But then what's
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: that situation? You wanted to go make more money and
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: then you have a quarterback who doesn't, who's hate is
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: mad at you, And how that's gonna to me?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: What you have to do because where you're angry, it's
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: like even if you were gonna leave, if we would
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: have known we had some big time money to buy
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: someone sweet and we didn't get to play that game
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: because we just assumed, I don't know, a week ago
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: signed the contract. You got to be the people that
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: blow this up. And you sue it, and you make
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: it so ugly that you get to the point where
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: he doesn't get to play for L s U and
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: he screwed And like that to me is now the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: mindset because like you said, what what are you gonna do?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Sue him? So he comes back like he's already kind
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: of moved on. You know, it's it's an ugly but
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  Speaker 2: I think you sue, and I think a lot of
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: people are kind of gonna root for this to blow
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  Speaker 2: this situation up, because if you were on well if
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  Speaker 2: we sign a four million dollar contract with the Volume
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: or Action Network and then like a week later we're's like, yeah,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: we're doing this other thing, and just like you get sued.
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  Speaker 2: That's how the real world works. There's once you get
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: to a certain number in life with business, like people
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: come after you and you know in college like well
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: they're just kids, like those days feel a little over
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: and this feels is ruthless. Like this guy just signed
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: the contract a weekly he's like, I'm coming back and
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: then he just clearly laying they offered more. Who knows
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: whatever the odor.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's two million more as the rumor.
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  Speaker 2: So I I think that that that that can't that's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: not the way that you know. It's one thing like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: a guy commits in the NFL during that tampering period,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: but he hasn't signed anything. And remember Emmanuel Sanders like
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: backed out. Yeah, but no one signs their contract and
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: then a week later like, oh I signed with the Chiefs,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: but now I'm gonna go play for the Cowboy. That's
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: not the way it works, because that's the way the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: real world works when you sign the contract. And I
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: think this is the first time where it's like I
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: could see this thing. This is where the ending kind
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: of comes from the contract standpoint, because this guy's back
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: have I think the times a little uncomfortable, like do
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: you signed the contract? And you signed the contract, do
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: you want thing? Well, he's only paying them one hundred grand.
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  Speaker 2: This is four million dollars right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And as you said, it kept them out of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: the quarterback game.
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  Speaker 2: Is he that good?
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  Speaker 1: He has potential? I mean, I mean you looked at
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: because I mean he can run, he can throw, but
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: like all the big games this year, shorter, Yeah, he's
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: he's his His size is is definitely the problem and
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: like in all the whenever he had a step up
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: against the better defenses. It wasn't pretty, but you might
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: be right that this might just be needed and a
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: necessary thing to fix, and they're they're eventually, it seems
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: like inevibly, there's just gonna have to be some kind
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: of scapegoat in a lawsuit and that ends up getting
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: screwed and and this might end up being like good
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: for the long term of the sport because it's just
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: like the Wild West right now, there's and there needs
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: to be oversight and or structure, and there's just no rules.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: It's completely lawless, and the calendar needs to change. Look
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: at all these teams in the playoffs that had coaches
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: that were already took jobs elsewhere. You now have a
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: team in the college football semies without a head coach
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: who went to Arrival, and now some of their staff
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: is not staying on. I mean, it's a disaster.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: You can't have a guy. I have no problem. Let's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: say you go to the draft college or the NFL
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: and I get drafted, like you know, in the sixth round,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: even in the college football, and it's like, I want
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: to go back to school. I never played in the NFL.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: I would be like, I can kind of get that
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: screwed up the kid that was drafted thirty first if
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: he wanted to immediately come back, but you can't just
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: go pro for several years and then come back. Yeah,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: he played wem Bin Yama in the summer league. There's
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: like the pictures of him guarding. It's like, no, that's
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: that's like. That's where I do agree with the coaches,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: like what are we doing? How did they even know
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: to contact this human being?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: It's insane. We're in the We're in the wild Western
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: College athletics. So yeah, it's gonna take some kind of
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: big moment to work lawsuit to fix it. So I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: think you might be right.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, stuck. You will enjoy the week and enjoy the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: baby and enjoy life, and I will talk to you.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: We'll figure out a time talk next week. Not quite
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: your own schedule. Who knows. We had a contraction. Last night.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, but a buckle up.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: It's good to happen soon, you.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Know, Well good luck, but havn't sooner, brother, and I
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: will enjoy the football as well, maybe your last free weekend,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you next week.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: See you.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Cheers. The volume