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Werewolf Portals & Dogman Encounters with Vic Cundiff · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Ye. Well, hey, everybody, welcome into the show today. I'm
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  Jessica Jones, the Crypted Huntress. Amy. Hi, I'm so glad you
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  guys are here. We have another fantastic show today. I have the Vic
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  Kinduff of dog Man Encounters Radio, my Bigfoot Sighting. He's got several different
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  different shows that he does. I have vig kind Off here today, y'all,
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  and we're gonna be talking about what else but dog Man and were wolves.
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  Okay, and we'll probably touch on some other cryptos, but I'm gonna
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  try to keep it dog Man and were Wolf today, okay, y'all.
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  And and y'all know, I've got a million things to ask Vic today and
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  to discuss with him, because I've been going pretty dog man heavy on some
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  of my shows, if y'all know what I mean. Because for whatever reason,
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  it seems as though there's a lot more sightings today, a lot more
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  encounters, and you can find a lot of those encounters over on Vic's podcast
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  his YouTube channel. He has everyday people that come on to tell about their
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  encounters. Okay, so it is the go to for real dog Man experiences
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  Oh, before we get to our show, actually I need to show y'all
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  where I'm going to be next. I guess in a couple of weeks.
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  Okay, not this weekend, but next weekend. I will be speaking at
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  the well that's not it. Well, I'm going to be there in September.
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  Tennessee. I am going to be speaking there. I hope it's on the
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  out there in those woods. Hopefully they'll let me speak that first day.
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  I don't know, we'll see, but we're gonna be doing some big footing
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  out there. I will be at the World UFO Conference that's next weekend,
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  not this coming weekend, but the next up in Clayton, Georgia. I
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  will be presenting. I don't know what I'm presenting on, other than all
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  my UFO experiences, I suppose, okay, so I'll come see me,
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  okay. And also in about a month, I'm going to be down in
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  tamp near Tampa at Satte Pete's Beach at the Full Disclosure Now Conference. I
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  will be presenting there on my cryptid research, the remote viewing targets. Gosh
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  knows, I'm going to talk about everything, even dog man Okay, down
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  there, so and I know some of y'all in the chatter gonna be there,
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  and I can't wait to meet you guys there at that event. Oh
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  yeah, the Appalachia star Seed Reunion is also coming up. All right,
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  so y'all come see me North Carolina too. All right, let's get our
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  show. I got Big here. I can't make him wait. Okay.
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  Big kind of has always been fascinated with cryptids and has been interested in things
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  that go bump in the night for as long as he can remember. He
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  spoke with this first dog Man eyewitness in two thousand and seven and has spoken
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  with countless eyewitnesses since. Some days he's contacted through Dogman Encounters dot Com by
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  as many as seven and eight or eight new eyewitnesses he's never heard from before.
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  He helps dog Man eyewitnesses come to terms with their encounters, and it's
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  the host of a podcast called dog Man Encounters, where eyewitnesses shared the details
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  of encounters they've had with dog Man. In addition to the work he does
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  trying to help dog Man eyewitnesses, he also produces two Bigfoot specific podcasts and
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  one paranormal theme podcasts. The Bigfoot podcasts are called My Bigfoot Sighting and My
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  Bigfoot Eye Witness radio. The paranormal podcast is called My Paranormal Experience, and
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  all four of his podcasts are available for listening on your favorite podcast platform.
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  You guys, please help me. Welcome to a Glitch in the Matrix today,
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  my buddy Vic Knduff, Hey, Vic, Hey, Jess, how
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  are you. I'm good. I was gonna say the mysterious Vic Conduff that,
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  well, it's good. I'm gonna say it's good to see you.
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  But we've never seen your face. And I can appreciate that. Now that
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  I've been in podcasting long enough, now I see why. Yeah, I
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  love it when people ask me why I do. That perfect example of why
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  I do. I spoke with a host, a content creator about three maybe
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  four months ago, and in our conversation, he told me how he was
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  just sitting at home one night, and he puts it out there what he
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  looks like and where he lives and all this. Well, he was sitting
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  at home one night and all of a sudden, his doorbell rang, so
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  he went and answered the door. When he opened up his door, there
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  was some guys standing there who said, hi, so and so addressed him
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  by name. He said, I'm a werewolf and I'm here to kill you.
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  Yeah, exactly. He said something worse than that, but yeah,
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  I mean so, I'm just glad that I just kept everything a low profile
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  because there are some crazy people out there unfortunately. Oh my gosh. I
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  know you have that right for sure. And also talking about the things that
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  you're talking about is quite dangerous, okay, and exposing the truth, okay,
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  just for anyone who is kind of exposing the truth. And I don't
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  mean anything bad by what I do. I'm just trying to find out the
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  truth for myself and sharing my stories and bringing people on that have their stories
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  out there. But there is a vested interest in hiding things like dogmen and
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  werewolves from the general public, isn't there? There is? But I think
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  it's kind of over sold. What I'm getting at is, you know,
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  I've aired the first episode of Dogmen Encounters August twenty second of twenty fifteen.
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  We're going on nine years now, and not once have I ever been visited
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  by anybody that in the operatives for an Alphabet agency or any governmental authorities.
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  Because I know there's a line, and I refuse to cross that line.
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  I plan on, I have every intention on helping dog Men eyewitnesses for a
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  long long time, and I realized that if I do cross that line by
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  putting evidence out there that's a little too high quality for the government to be
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  happy with me doing so, then yeah, I do put my ability to
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  help the guye witnesses at risk. So yeah, that's why I just refuse
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  to cross that line. And because of doing that, like I said,
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  i'ven't had any trouble whatsoever. That's wonderful. That's wonderful because what you do
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  is you help people. I found that through all the years of me doing
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  the Bigfoot research, and I guess it's only the past two or three years
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  that I've been public about it. When I meet people in person, they
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  just want to share their stories. Okay, they want to know that they're
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  not crazy. They want to know that other people have experienced what they've experienced.
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  And so is that kind of how is that what you take from the
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  people explaining their encounters to you too, well, it really runs the gamut.
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  Most of them. They do want some form of normalcy out of their
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  encounter or encounters as it sometimes happens. But imagine the frustration of seeing one
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  of these things all of your life being conditioned to believe that nothing like this
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  could be out there. Then all of a sudden, one day or one
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  night, you actually have an encounter with one. And then the people who
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  love you and who are around you every day, your family, your close
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  friends. You reach out to them for help the way you would when you
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  add any other type of a crisis, and instead of them supporting you and
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  whatnot, they rebuff you. They make fun of you. Imagine the eyewitnesses.
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  How many eyewitnesses over the years I've spoken with, who are the punchline
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  that family get togethers? You know it is, You've got this family member
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  where the family members poke at them for the time they slipped on the ice
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  and whatnot. But when all of a sudden, you're the one who's the
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  punchline at every get together, everyone's trying to needle you about the quote unquote
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  werewolf you saw? Yeah, right, isn't that funny? So yeah,
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  I mean, it's just really sad and unfortunate with so many of these eyewitnesses
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  have to go go through. Like I said, a lot of them are
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  seeking some form of normalcy, either this experience or the experiences that unfortunately they've
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  been made to suffer. That's right, that's right. I've noticed that now
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  that people people in my town, my family, even my attorney. Okay.
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  Uh, I'm known as the Bigfoot Queen in my hometown. Okay,
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  and uh and I and I think they kind of did that to poke at
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  me a little bit at first, but they they wanted to believe in Bigfoot,
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  or they didn't want to believe in Bigfoot, but they see me doing
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  what I do and see all the people that I talked to, and now
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  they've they believe in Bigfoot, and now they think it's really cool. Okay.
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  So I did. I did take some some jabs a little bit about
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  being the Bigfoot Queen, but now I'm okay with that if that's what it
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  takes to to let people know that, hey, I'm out there and uh
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  and I'm talking to people who have had these experiences and there's nothing it's nothing
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  funny about it, okay, even though I use a lot of humor,
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  okay when I talk about my experiences and stuff. But yeah, oh my
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  gosh. I wanted to ask you, Vic if you have started noticing patterns
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  okay, because I want to kind of focus on dog Man today. Dog
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  Man and wear wolves for the most part, and of all the I mean,
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  you've taken thousands of reports, are you finding patterns in the things that
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  people are telling you, such as the temperament of the dog men, the
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  locations of the encounters, and things like that. About the most notable pattern
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  that I've noticed over the years has been the desire from these guys in ninety
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  nine point nine percent of the cases, or even a higher percentage than that,
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  to try and make the eyewitness or eyewitnesses. This sometimes happens when more
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  than one person's present, to make them think that they're just seconds away from
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  being dispatched. And these guys are so intelligent, they really do know how
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  to push our buttons. I mean, you have a situation where if they
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  weren't nearly as intelligent as they are, there's like a crossroads where I can
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  do this or I can do that. Well, they always seem to pick
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  the right action to heighten the fear of the eyewitnesses. It's just so evident
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  that we're talking about we're dealing with entities that have human level intelligence, and
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  in some ways, I think their intelligence just might supersede our own. But
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  as far as patterns go, yeah, time after time after time. That's
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  the one common threat. It seems like in these encounters with these guys are
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  doing everything they can. That's if they actually force an encounter to happen.
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  It seems like they're doing everything they can to make the eyewitness think that they're
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  about to die, about to be ripped apart. But time after time after
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  time, at the last second, it doesn't happen. They don't harm them.
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  Now, I'm never gonna say, and I'm accused of being in the
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  boat of people who say that dog men and sasquatch will never hurt you,
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  I'm not. I don't say that at all, because anything out there,
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  if it that has teeth in or claws, it can't harm you. And
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  if you run into the wrong example of that species or creature, then they
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  will harm you. You have deviant examples of everything out there, people,
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  horses, goats, pigs, you name it, camels. If that's the
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  case, then why wouldn't you expect to have devient examples of sasquatch or dog
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  men. It would be just foolish to think that that isn't the case.
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  Well, over the years I've been doing this, as you know, I've
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  spoken with thousands upon thousands of dogmen eyewitnesses. Something that's really important not to
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  lose sight of is the fact that only six or seven of those eyewitnesses,
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  six or seven credible eyewitnesses, have ever told me about actually intentionally being harmed
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  by the dog man or dog men they've encountered. Now, what does that
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  tell us? Right there? Asked thousands? If you ask three four thousand
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  people who have interacted with horses, pigs, camels, you name the animal.
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  Okay, out of the three four thousand of you who have had direct
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  interactions with camels, how many of you have ever been intentionally harmed, kicked,
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  spit bitten, you name it, trampled? You know the number of
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  people who said yes. If you're talking about a pool of three to four
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  thousand, then the number of yes answers would be in the hundreds. Well,
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  if that answer is only six or seven when it comes to dog man,
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  if you're dealing with the pool that size, that right there tells you
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  as hard to accept as it might be. That tells you right there that
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  dog men again, as hard as it might be to accept, is it
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  is dog men are actually safer to be around and to interact with than common
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  animals that we deal with every day, and if that wasn't the case,
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  that number wouldn't be the case. And it drives me crazy because there are
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  so many times over the years I've been doing this where people say, no,
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  you're wrong, Vick about this whole idea that dog men aren't nearly as
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  dangerous as they're made out to be, because there's so many people out there
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  who could have been killed by these things who can't come forward and share their
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  experiences. Well, that's true, but when it comes to making conclusions like
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  this, it's all about sample size. Sample size. I mean, you're
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  listening to a guy who's spoken with thousands upon thousands of dogmen eyewitnesses who were
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  caught dead to rights and if they wanted to be dispatched, if the dog
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  man wanted to dispatch them, it could have. But did it do that.
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  No, in every case but six or seven, it allowed them to
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  leave without a single scratch or a hair in their heads being harmed. So
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  yeah, with that large of a sample size, that precludes the chance of
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  a misdiagnosis of Well, you haven't dealt with a big enough sample of eyewitnesses
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  to get an accurate picture. No, thousands upon thousands of dog men eyewitnesses.
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  That's more than large enough to get an actual, inaccurate picture of the
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  danger these guys actually pose on the average. So that's why I say those
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  things about these guys, how they get a bum wrap when it comes to
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  actually how dangerous they are by and large. Oh, Vic, I love
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  that you put that out there, okay, because I from all of the
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  encounters that I have heard and taken, they're generally not that violent. Okay,
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  They're not violent. They're just there to they're just existing, okay,
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  And they have chance encounters with people and people who live in homes who have
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  them on their properties sometimes. But when you flip through some of the YouTube
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  channels, it's always people being unalived by dog men, you know, all
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  the time and stuff. So it's good to have a different perspective on it
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  and to hear from someone who takes thousands of reports on them. Now,
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  thank you Long Island Bigfoot for that supersticker. I appreciate that. You're awesome.
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  Okay. So I have some friends, Vic, who you know.
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  I do a lot of cryptid field research, and I have some friends who
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  went out to an area to go scout okay, to do a scouting mission
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  to see if they wanted to bring the whole group out. And this is
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  deep, deep, deep in the woods, somewhere to undisclosed location here in
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  the South, not one of my normal research areas. But they went out
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  there about a month or so ago and everything was all fine and dandy.
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  They hiked in. It was, you know, about two three mile hike
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  in to a location that was there's nothing around them except for trees and a
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  cemetery. There's a cemetery nearby, and andy. They went to bed,
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  they set up their tents, went to sleep, and then at some point
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  in that night they got awakened by something walking around their camp on two feet
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  and yells, you know, uh, all these weird noises and stuff.
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  And these these men, these grown men, all military background. They sat
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  up all night thinking they were not going to make it out alive that night.
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  Now they they thought that it was dog Man. They were convinced it
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  was dog Man. However, in my opinion, I don't know, See,
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  I'm actually going there in the near future. I'm going to go and
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  I'm going to go back with them. You know, we're gonna do an
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  investigation kind of for an extended period, and I believe they're they're bigfoots.
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  Okay, I think they're bigfoots, but I'm not sure. Now do you
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  think that sometimes dog men can get missidentified or bigfoot get miss identified as dog
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  men in some cases? Oh? Sure, I think they do. Sasquatch.
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  They do have certain behaviors that if you didn't see what was responsible for
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  the noises you heard or whatnot, then yeah, it could be easy to
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  think, Okay, yeah, I'm dealing with a dog man. Some of
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  their growls can sound like a big dog's growl, and some of the other
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  things they do too, can be mistaken for canine behavior. So yeah,
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  I think in a lot of cases it's been a case of mistaken identity.
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  And it goes both ways too. I think some of the things that dogmen
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  have done have been mistaken for sasquatch activity. Yeah, I agree. I
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  agree with that too, because the gentlemen did not see the actual beings out
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  there, but that was it was something other. It wasn't human, they
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  said, but it was running around on two feet. And they're in this
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  area is known for bigfoot families being seen out there, like pod I call
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  them pods. Okay, pods are or family units of bigfoots out in this
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  area, so I think it could be any of it. But we're going
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  to go find out. I'm going to go find out for myself as I
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  like to do so hopefully, hopefully I'll make it out of there safe and
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  sound. But I just wanted your opinion on that. Now, speaking of
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  areas where I research, a lot of the areas are national parks and VIC
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  you would know of all people, and I'm sure you know about the Missing
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  four one one David Plait a series with the Missing Person's Clusters, and that's
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  something that I've been talking about lately and actually kind of putting the angle on
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  it as to potentially cryptids kidnapping people for taking people out of these parks.
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  Now, have you gotten any kind of reports of people being taken by I'm
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  going to say, kidnapped by a dog man? Have you ever heard any
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  reports of that? I have? You know? I had a guest on
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  the show actually that basically came on and talked about how she was out in
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  the woods. This was years ago, so I'm really fuzzy in the details,
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  but the gist of it is she was out in the woods when she
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  was a kid, and all of a sudden, this dogged me and came
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  up and grabbed her and carried her off, and she took her back to
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  or it took her back to this area where there was another dog man,
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  and when it put her on the ground, it would appear that the two
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  were having an argument over her. Well, I can't remember if it was
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  a one that was there when the dog man brought her to that spot that
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  picked her up and took her back to where the other one had taken her
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  from or not. But yeah, she talked about being kidnapped like that,
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  and it really makes you wonder how many times when people have been out in
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  the woods that's happened. That might be why some of these people have gone
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  missing. I doubt that that's happened in a lot of cases, but that
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  does not preclude the chance, at least in some of these cases that's what
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  did happen. Wow, Okay, well, okay, So David Politis covers
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  the areas of it's mostly Canada, United States and I'm assuming maybe Mexico too,
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  but it's mostly Canada and the United States. And you just recently had
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  a gentleman on your show a couple of days ago talking about Canada dog man
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  experiences in Canada. Now, do they have as many dog man encounters in
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  Canada as we do here in the US. No, not clothes. Now,
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  that's not to say they don't have as many dog men, because I
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  think they do have more dog men, a lot more in the way of
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  dogmen than we do. But when you consider how sparsely populated Canada is,
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  I mean, you can't have a dog man encounter if there's no one there
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  to have the encounter in the first place. I mean, the Boreal forest
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  is ridiculously large. You're talking about so much real estate where sasquatch dog men
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  could be out there living day in, day out and never be seen by
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  people. So yeah, I think it's just flooded with them. But that
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  would explain why there are that many encounters being reported there. Wow. Interesting.
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  You know, we actually have a couple of people in the chat today
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  that have been on your show that you have interviewed before. We have Javier
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  Morales here Crypto five five nine, said Hoavier on my show this past weekend.
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  Hey, Howvier and and so we also have Adolf here too. I
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  think you've had that's not Adolf. I had Adolf right here. That's that's
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  Mareen. Hey, Mariene, we have Adolf, he said. Vic mentioned
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  my story with a dog man encounter. Okay, Adolf is actually coming on
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  my show next month at some point. And and these guys both live in
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  California. Okay, where there's it seems to be a large like concentration of
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  dog man's hidings, not only dog man I'm going to say, wear wolves
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  or lichens, because in Hobvier's case, one of them that he encountered was
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  wearing ripped shorts. He said. Now, how common is that for you
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  to get reports like that? Not common at all. I think over the
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  years, I've probably had maybe three four people at the most tell me about
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  ever seeing a dog man wearing clothing. So not very common at all in
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  the least, I'm not saying it doesn't. Does that make you think that
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  it could be a were wolf because it could be some like black magic involved
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  or something, because there is a difference from what I understand, between were
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  wolves and dog men. So well, that's you're gonna get me started.
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  Now, Yeah, I hear that mentioned too often. Well, where was
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  where wolves have tails and dog men don't and blah blah blah. They're getting
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  this information because they listen to these various podcasts where supposed government operatives come on
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  and spill the beans about dog men, and they spill the beans about were
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  wolves. I work in a department of the government where we specialize in dealing
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  with them, and I can tell you how many hears per square inch were
• 24:51
  wolves have on their left shoulder blade versus a dog man that's gonna have twice
• 24:55
  as many heres per square inch. I mean, just balder dad. I
• 25:00
  know it's a PG show, so I'll say balder dash. Yeah, I
• 25:03
  mean just absolute nonsense. A government to operative is never going to come on
• 25:08
  one of these shows and spill the beans because I don't care what you do
• 25:12
  to try and protect their identity. The government would easily be able to find
• 25:18
  out who it was and then they would take action that that person, the
• 25:22
  quote unquote operative would not be very happy about. So that's not going to
• 25:27
  happen. So yeah, all this talk about, well, where wolves have
• 25:30
  tails and dog men don't, or where wolves don't have tails and dog men
• 25:36
  do, is just nonsense. So I don't even put any thought into that.
• 25:40
  Now, that's not to say that I don't believe that, quote unquote,
• 25:42
  where wolves are out there, it's it's possible. I don't believe that
• 25:47
  where wolves are real, I don't believe. And the definition of a werewolf
• 25:49
  is a human who somehow has the magical capability to transform into the state of
• 25:56
  a beast like a werewolf looking the way a dog man does. To say
• 26:00
  that's impossible, because in this crazy world, anything is possible in my opinion,
• 26:04
  I mean, if you have subatine particles called quarks that can wink in
• 26:10
  and wink out of existence, then what can't be possible? Again, anything
• 26:15
  could be possible. So yeah, that's why I'm not going to say that
• 26:18
  that were wolves are an impossibility. I just don't believe that they exist.
• 26:25
  So yeah, that's my whole story on that. I guess I shouldn't get
• 26:27
  too high on my soapbox. But yeah, that's a sensitive love that I
• 26:33
  love it. And here's the thing I wanted to talk a little bit about.
• 26:37
  There there's a lot of werewolf and dog man sightings in the UK,
• 26:41
  Okay, over in England. There's something that I've seen in the news in
• 26:47
  articles, Okay, just from like a couple of weeks ago. I don't
• 26:51
  know why it became popular a couple of weeks ago, but people were talking
• 26:53
  about a werewolf portal and I think it's Canic Chase. I'm not sure if
• 26:59
  I pronounced right can or can okay can chase. But people are experiencing all
• 27:04
  sorts of paranormal activity in this area. I think Andy decodes okay. I
• 27:08
  don't know if Andy's in the chat today, but he I think that he's
• 27:11
  investigated that place quite a bit. But you go there and there's all sorts
• 27:15
  of things from you know, ghosts to were wolves to black eyed children,
• 27:21
  and people have I guess they've concluded there's a portal there and they're calling it
• 27:26
  the werewolf portal. What do you think about that? And have you heard
• 27:30
  about this? No, I haven't heard about it. Yeah, that's news
• 27:33
  to me. But understand, when I'm not helping eyewitnesses or producing the shows,
• 27:40
  I'm not a dog man or a werewolf connoisseur. I mean, I
• 27:42
  might watch a werewolf movie, but yeah, I don't scour the internet for
• 27:48
  the latest dog man info because I'm not a dog mean researcher. I don't
• 27:52
  research dog men. I just focus on helping dogmen eyewitnesses come to terms with
• 27:56
  their experiences, and I happen to. By the way, I also have
• 28:00
  a show called dog Me and Encounters Radio. So yeah, I'm not a
• 28:03
  dog mean connoisseur. No, there's no novelty whatsoever to dogmen for me.
• 28:11
  I mean, how many times can you speak with eyewitnesses who have been tormented
• 28:17
  by these things and have had the worst experiences and whatnot and look at dog
• 28:22
  men and look favorably on them. I hate dog men. I hate what
• 28:29
  they do, and I hate what they are and all that. So yeah,
• 28:33
  that's why I don't stay up on things like that. But as far
• 28:36
  as a werewolf portal goes, I mean, in this crazy world, I'm
• 28:40
  never going to say that it's impossible that there are portals out there that these
• 28:45
  guys step out of and step into because you never know it's right, you
• 28:51
  never know, you never know. Okay, Well, I'm just scouring some
• 28:55
  of the comments over here, and this is a great one. Hey,
• 28:56
  this is John and Coco Foreman asking does Vick have an opinion on Navajo shaman
• 29:02
  skin walking as wolves or other animals? Now that's not exactly a dog man,
• 29:07
  but it's something that is kind of connected when we're talking about dogmen and
• 29:11
  even were wolves. What is your opinion on it? And have you had
• 29:17
  any reports of what to be skin walkers that could have as far as like,
• 29:22
  I don't know when people are reporting dog man encounters. Yeah, some
• 29:26
  people have reported seeing both skin walkers and dog men. They watched shaman transform
• 29:32
  into a skin walker or put on some type of a cloak or something,
• 29:37
  and then that's what they saw. The next thing they knew they saw a
• 29:41
  skin walker and things like that. So yeah, it's happened. I've had
• 29:47
  people report that more occasions than once. But what was the other part of
• 29:52
  your question? Oh? It was mostly I mean you covered it already,
• 29:57
  okay, So I was just asking what re asking her question? And if
• 30:02
  anyone had given you a report of a skin walker in relation to like a
• 30:06
  dog man encounter or something. So you answered it, You answered it,
• 30:11
  okay. I was actually thinking about bringing this up today because I do believe
• 30:15
  there is an indigenous connection to dog man and I would assume you've had plenty
• 30:21
  of reports of dog men being seen around cemeteries in Indian burial mounds. Am
• 30:26
  I right? Oh? Yeah, there definitely seems to be a connection.
• 30:30
  It's funny. I get all kinds of funny messages from people. This happened
• 30:34
  like a year or so ago. But after airing an episode where they guess
• 30:37
  the eyewitness talked about living next to or very close at least to a Native
• 30:42
  American burial ground and then they had a dog man encounter in the area,
• 30:48
  I brought up the possibility. I asked them if I thought there was a
• 30:51
  connection between that Native American burial ground being there in the area and them having
• 30:55
  their encounter, and this lady, she sends me a message, I rate,
• 31:00
  why do I always blame dog man encounters on Native Americans and all this?
• 31:04
  I guess you didn't realize that time after time people have had encounters with
• 31:10
  dog men around Native American burial grounds. So yeah, that's why I asked
• 31:15
  that question. But yeah, there definitely does seem to be a connection between
• 31:19
  the two. What the connection is why it seems like it heightens the possibility
• 31:25
  of you having an encounter with a dog man if you are close to a
• 31:27
  Native American burial ground. I have no idea, but yeah, I mean,
• 31:33
  how many times do you have to see the same thing to learn that
• 31:36
  you know what, there just might be something there there. Patterns is patterns.
• 31:42
  That's why, that's why I wanted to pick your bint a little bit
• 31:45
  today about these things, because we're seeing a lot of patterns in the sightings.
• 31:52
  And I wanted to compare my notes to your notes, okay, because
• 31:55
  you have way bigger notes than I do. But I did have a show.
• 32:00
  I've had several shows where we talk about the indigenous connection to dog man
• 32:04
  sightings and to the dog Man and and as a matter of fact, we
• 32:07
  have Cryptoville in the Chat to Chat. Today Mark is here and he came
• 32:12
  show. He told us his story about his encounter the Land between the Lakes
• 32:16
  area, somewhere in the area of Land between the Lakes. I may have
• 32:20
  been outside of the area, but it was right there. And he thought
• 32:23
  what he was looking at was a deer, okay, but then he realized
• 32:28
  that it was. It it like a dog or like a coyote, and
• 32:30
  it had white paint smeared down his face, down its muzzle and down its
• 32:34
  neck okay, and almost looking like war paint or camouflage, because it did
• 32:39
  look like a deer. And he but we had a conversation about it being
• 32:45
  like war paint too. Okay, And and I do you ever get any
• 32:50
  kind of encounters about dog men wearing face paint? I've only had one one
• 32:55
  eyewitness contact me and let me know about that. It really makes you wonder
• 33:00
  what the extent of what they will do or won't do is. I mean,
• 33:06
  if they're going to put war paint on, then are they doing that
• 33:08
  because they watched Native Americans do that and they're copying that behavior. Just thinking
• 33:15
  about how they seem to be, they don't seem to be likely to try
• 33:21
  and copy behavior, So I'm not sure why that one did that. I
• 33:24
  really don't know. But they do a lot of things that you just shake
• 33:29
  your head at and just wonder why they do it. So it's not like
• 33:31
  that's unprecedented or anything. Yeah, well, okay, so I have Eric
• 33:37
  Eric's in the chat today too. Hey, Eric, Eric Testerman is in
• 33:39
  here, and he and my friend William Nighthawk have a show on the weekends
• 33:44
  together. And William is my go to person. He's a Native American like
• 33:50
  medicine, mean, I go to him for advice and for counseling. Basically,
• 33:54
  I what to do before I go on investigation where I'm going to encounter
• 33:58
  something like a skin walker even dog man, okay, And and he will
• 34:04
  he kind of gives me some advice. And and he contacted me one day
• 34:07
  and said that he was glad that I was covering the topic of the indigenous
• 34:10
  connection to the dog man, because there is one and uh. And he
• 34:15
  went on to tell us on one of his shows after that, uh,
• 34:17
  the connection. And he said, the reason that they are seen by the
• 34:22
  Indian burial mounds and near cemeteries because a lot of times they have been kind
• 34:28
  of summoned there. Okay. Uh. A lot of those lands are very
• 34:31
  they're very sacred lands, and a medicine man, a medicine woman at some
• 34:37
  point probably either cursed the land or blessed that land and brought in the protection
• 34:44
  for it in forms of cryptids and spirits, okay, to protect that land
• 34:49
  at all costs. And that's why we see sasquatch, bigfoot, and dogmen
• 34:54
  around the Indian burial mounds and around cemeteries sometimes and even just in the in
• 35:00
  the woods, Okay, because they have been summoned there, is what he
• 35:02
  says. So I think that that's an interesting angle and interesting aspect, and
• 35:08
  it's something to take note off when we're trying to figure out why they're seen
• 35:13
  so often around these sacred sights. That would explain a lot, it really
• 35:17
  would. And what better guardian than a dog man to keep people away or
• 35:22
  at least to guard a sight. Yeah, exactly at all costs too.
• 35:29
  And I guess that's what gives it the scary. I mean, when people
• 35:32
  encounter dog men sometimes I would assume it's they're more scared than they are at
• 35:39
  ease, okay, because first of all, they're seeing something that's not supposed
• 35:43
  to exist. But I would think that they would also potentially give off some
• 35:46
  sort of I don't want to see infra sound or something that would keep people
• 35:52
  away from them, you know, or let them know that they can hurt
• 35:55
  them. Is that the case usually? I'm sorry I didn't understand the question.
• 36:05
  Maybe I did not, Maybe I didn't say it correctly. Okay,
• 36:07
  it was in my head, didn't come out right. When people are having
• 36:13
  an encounter with a dog man, sometimes they most of the time, I
• 36:15
  would assume that it's pretty scary, okay, pretty scary. So do you
• 36:20
  think that the dog man could give off some sort of something like an infrasound
• 36:24
  or something to scare those people that's not just by seeing it. Does this
• 36:30
  makes sense? Maybe I'm not saying this right in my head, it makes
• 36:34
  sense. Okay, Oh no, I understand that that is what I'm saying.
• 36:39
  Energetic energetic warnings. I'm not sure how they do it, but they
• 36:44
  definitely seem to do something because people, time after time they report this overwhelming
• 36:51
  feeling of dread and of fear. So how they affect us that way,
• 36:55
  I don't know. It could be infrasound, but whether it's infra sound or
• 37:00
  something else, I couldn't tell you. But I can't tell you they're doing
• 37:04
  something because I mean, time after time, that's what eyewitnesses almost to a
• 37:07
  person report. So there's definitely some there there. Yes, Okay, we
• 37:15
  have Nighthawk. We have William Nighthawk in the chat, I was just talking
• 37:19
  about you, William. Okay. He says there is a precedence for dog
• 37:22
  men to use facial paint in warrior right of passage and mourning a loss.
• 37:28
  Wow. Okay, well that's interesting. I think I think this goes way
• 37:31
  deeper than I'm even aware of. Okay, with the connections with even the
• 37:37
  interactions between dog men and humans. Now, Vick, you I'm sure you
• 37:43
  know of all people, you know of the history of reported dog headed men
• 37:47
  throughout throughout the centuries, right, Signuscephali, Yes, Signuscephali. They were
• 37:55
  reported to be dog headed men. Well, because of that, they literally
• 38:00
  had the bodies of men, supposedly, well, that precludes the chance of
• 38:05
  them having hawks the way kenine type dogmen do. So that could explain some
• 38:09
  of the dog man sightings present day, like Type threes, but that definitely
• 38:14
  wouldn't explain the canine type dog men that people see, and by far and
• 38:19
  away the most common type of dog man that's reported would be the canine type.
• 38:23
  And there's a big argument on our Type three is even dogmen. Well,
• 38:27
  no, that's what a lot of people call them. Does that mean
• 38:30
  that they're keenids. No, they're definitely not keenids because look at the leg
• 38:34
  structure, they can't be keenids. But so many people call them dog men
• 38:40
  that that's just what a lot of people know them by. So it's no
• 38:45
  different than saying is an apple and apple? Well, go to France,
• 38:49
  No, an apple's not an apple In France. It's something else. It's
• 38:52
  all about what they're referred to as how we know them. So yeah,
• 38:58
  I mean, well I got so far off the mark I forgot what my
• 39:02
  point was going to be. Okay, we're just going with the flow.
• 39:08
  Absolutely. And you said you mentioned type three sasquatch, or do a dog
• 39:15
  mat or sasquatch? You mentioned a type three. Usually a type three sasquatch
• 39:19
  looks like a dog man. That's the thing right there. Some people call
• 39:22
  them type three sasquatch, and that's a misnomer. Also, some people call
• 39:27
  them type three dog men. Well, they're definitely not kenids, so it's
• 39:30
  not technically correct to call them dog men. They're definitely not a kind of
• 39:36
  sasquatch either, so it's not technically correct to call them sasquatch. Now,
• 39:39
  there's so many people in the crypti community that say, no, they look
• 39:44
  just like a sasquatch. Onlything different on them is the headshepe. Well,
• 39:46
  there's another very important difference that tells us that they cannot be a kind of
• 39:51
  sasquatch, and that is the fact that they have claws on the tips of
• 39:55
  their fingers, and the claws and the tips of their toes. Sasquatch always
• 40:00
  have fingernails and toenails, And some people say, well, they might be
• 40:05
  a kind of sasquatch that was just born happen to be born with If they
• 40:08
  have claws like that, then those claws are bone anchored. Well, you
• 40:14
  don't have any examples where any animal, any creature that normally is born with
• 40:21
  fingernails and toenails where it's gonna be born. Just oh, look at that
• 40:24
  this one was born. Your brother was born with bone anchored claws. Your
• 40:30
  sister is born with fingernails and toenails. But your brother here, look at
• 40:32
  that he happened to be born with bone anchored claws instead of fingernails and toenails.
• 40:38
  That just does not happen. That doesn't happen. So that right there
• 40:44
  precludes the chance of them being a type of sasquatch. Also sasquatch. Some
• 40:50
  of them have canines sharpened canines, upper canine teeth, lower canine teeth are
• 40:55
  sharp, but all the other teeth in their heads are dull. They're blunt
• 41:00
  like ours, well, dog men type threes, canon type dogmen. Every
• 41:07
  single tooth in their head is sharp. So that right there also precludes that's
• 41:12
  another anatomical feature that precludes the chance of type threes actually being a type of
• 41:16
  sasquatch. So what do we have here that's just telling us that type threes
• 41:22
  are not a kind of sasquatch when it boils down to it. They're not
• 41:24
  a kind of keymid when it boils down to it. So I can tell
• 41:29
  you what they're not. I just can't tell you what they are. Well,
• 41:32
  I can throw another wrench in the engine they want, okay, because
• 41:37
  now we've got some people assuming or or just kind of putting it out there
• 41:44
  that dog men are actually giant babboons. Oh boy, I know right.
• 41:51
  I'm not exactly sure what to think about this, because they do look like
• 41:54
  they could be a giant batboon, or a giant batboon could be mistake looking
• 42:00
  for a dog man, and vice versa. What do you think? Definitely
• 42:05
  not. I can understand why they would think that, but yeah, definitely
• 42:09
  not. Like I said, ninety nine point nine percent of the eyewitnesses who
• 42:15
  come forward to report dog men encounters at least with me have reported seeing can
• 42:21
  i type dog men. And these canine type dog men have hawks, they
• 42:24
  have hawks, baboons most definitely, whether it's a small baboon species or a
• 42:31
  giant one. They don't have hawks. They have heels that touch the ground
• 42:37
  when they walk, So that right there precludes the chance that these guys could
• 42:42
  be a kind of baboon. It just doesn't fit. Doesn't fit at all.
• 42:45
  And also baboons, they don't have claws on the tips of their fingers
• 42:51
  and on the tips of their toes. That's another anatomical feature that disqualifies them
• 42:54
  from possibly being a type of baboon giant baboon. So yeah, I can
• 43:00
  appreciate them trying to explain this away by saying that, yeah, they're dynopithecus,
• 43:05
  that's all they are, but for the aforementioned reasons, they clearly are
• 43:09
  not. Oh my god, Well, I was just wondering your opinion on
• 43:14
  that, because there's so many different categories and and everybody's just trying to figure
• 43:19
  it out. I guess, and I thought it was an interesting connection because
• 43:22
  they do look quite similar and they they can't be gigantic, okay, but
• 43:28
  my general feeling was that it probably was not what a dog man is.
• 43:32
  It's probably not and especially gosh, I mean, I have enough to worry
• 43:37
  about out in the field, Okay, when we're out there looking for Bigfoot
• 43:40
  and dog man sign Now I got to worry about giant baboons. I hope
• 43:45
  not, okay, but I guess I can't. I think kind of the
• 43:49
  thought process is like, well, you know, some of the hyena type
• 43:52
  dog men could be descended from hyenas or something. Okay, so why not
• 43:57
  baboons. Maybe the baboons came here, you know, centuries ago and they've
• 44:00
  just been on the loose living in caves, you know, So I think
• 44:05
  that's where that stems from. You know, even if that was the case,
• 44:09
  do you know how long it takes to actually adapt over from having fingernails
• 44:14
  and toenails to having bone I'll see it again, bone anchored claws. That
• 44:19
  is a huge variance in adaptation. It takes a long long time to change
• 44:25
  over to adapt over from having fingernails and toenails over to bone anchored claws.
• 44:31
  So, yeah, for nothing else, no other reason than that, that
• 44:36
  just wipes that possibility off the table. Yeah, it does, it does.
• 44:43
  But it's interesting to talk about, and I'm glad that we could have
• 44:45
  this discussion today. Okay, on the baboon. So there's that. There's
• 44:51
  that. Okay, so we've covered the missing people. Okay, we pretty
• 44:57
  much covered the missing or have we? I mean, how many of these
• 45:00
  accounts that you get are and I'm going back to patterns now, okay with
• 45:04
  the don men. How many accounts have you taken that are in national parks
• 45:08
  as compared to private property or elsewhere? Well by far and away. The
• 45:15
  ball of then come from private areas around people's properties and they took the trash
• 45:22
  out at night and had an encounter, or they're sitting in the backyard and
• 45:25
  had the encounter, or they're just in their local woods, not anywhere near
• 45:30
  a national park or a state park. But I've had my fair share come
• 45:34
  in from places like parks. But no, they just these things are so
• 45:38
  widespread. You know, people, everyone listening probably knows people who have had
• 45:44
  encounters with these guys, but they don't know that those people have had encounters
• 45:49
  because they're afraid to come forward and put it out there. This phenomenon is
• 45:52
  so much more widespread than most people are ever going to realize. Yes,
• 45:59
  okay, can dogmen talk? Because I've gotten reports of dog men saying words
• 46:05
  human English words Okay, so do you get reports in the speaking. I've
• 46:10
  heard that too, but I don't know of a single case that has been
• 46:15
  reported to me where an eyewitness actually saw the dog man say the word or
• 46:22
  words. So I'm wondering if it hasn't been some kind of form of mind
• 46:27
  speak, and if you've never experienced mind speak before, how do you tell
• 46:30
  the difference between Okay, I don't see the source of the sound, so
• 46:36
  maybe I'm hearing it with my ears instead of in your mind. If mine
• 46:40
  speak is a reality, which there's so many credible eyewitnesses out there who've reported
• 46:45
  experiencing it, who am I to say that they're not telling the truth.
• 46:50
  So maybe it's a case where they heard mind speak where physically a dog man
• 46:54
  doesn't have the ability to say names or words, which if you look at
• 46:59
  their ti I don't see how they could and how their voice boxes constructed,
• 47:05
  I don't see how they could speak. But if they have the ability to
• 47:07
  mind speak, which a lot of again, a lot of credible eyewitnesses have
• 47:12
  reported experiencing, then maybe they're hearing mind speak and mistaking that is actually hearing
• 47:20
  the spoken word. Yeah, I have actually had telepathic communication with let's just
• 47:28
  say ets, okay, et s, and and I heard their voices,
• 47:32
  even ghosts. Okay, when I've had an experience, because you know,
• 47:36
  you do cover a lot of the paranormal stuff, Okay, cause you've got
• 47:38
  your paranormal my paranormal experience, where you have people that come in to tell
• 47:44
  about their paranormal experiences, their Bigfoot experiences, You've got the dog man experiences.
• 47:49
  And to me, a lot of these overlap. Okay, they overlap.
• 47:53
  And and I had et experiences stemming from my Bigfoot research, ok because
• 48:00
  it was connected in some way. I've had ghost experiences. I've had orbs
• 48:06
  in my home that was connected to me researching that same day in the field.
• 48:09
  Okay. But I have I have heard I have heard the telepathic talking
• 48:16
  okay. And it's just as loud as you and I speaking together. Vic,
• 48:20
  It's very loud and uh and I probably was the only one who heard
• 48:23
  it, Okay, for all I know. So I can see what you're
• 48:29
  saying there, I can see what you're saying. I can hear what you're
• 48:31
  saying because it is as loud as us speaking. Okay, but it's in
• 48:37
  your in your head basically, So it's hard for a lot of people to
• 48:40
  wrap their minds around that, okay, as to how that works. But
• 48:44
  it does sound as though someone's just speaking to you in the room, but
• 48:46
  other people just can't hear it. Okay, So that's just to kind of
• 48:50
  explain that. Okay, let's move on to Okay, I see genetics,
• 48:57
  genetic manipulation on the screen right now. Okay, So I'm going to ask
• 49:00
  you this question. Do you think that dogmen are some sort of strange experiment,
• 49:07
  some hybrids that have been laboratory made, or do you think that they
• 49:12
  are from this planet, from this Earth and the air, natural beings.
• 49:16
  I hear that a lot. I hear that put out there a lot.
• 49:20
  That these guys are just created by the government and that's why they're here.
• 49:24
  That's how they're here, and that explains it away well, if you think
• 49:29
  about it. Sightings pre date us having anywhere near the ability to make a
• 49:35
  dogman in a test tube. We can do that now, I'm sure,
• 49:38
  but back in eighteen eighty seven, when the first documented dog man sighting was
• 49:45
  reported, we didn't have anything near the technology that would be required to make
• 49:51
  a dog man in a test tube, and a laboratory. So yeah,
• 49:53
  that might explain some of the sightings that are taking place today, ie dogmen
• 49:59
  that were made by the government, but it definitely doesn't explain the encounters that
• 50:02
  were reported way back before we have the technology to do so. So yeah,
• 50:07
  there's every possibility that you have naturally occurring dog men. If there is
• 50:12
  such a thing out there, I'm not sure what their origins are, so
• 50:15
  maybe calling it naturally occurring isn't the right way to describe it. But you
• 50:20
  might have dog men that aren't made by men out there and me and made
• 50:24
  dog men. That's definitely a strong possibility. Yeah, I agree with you.
• 50:31
  I think it's all of it. I mean, I've even heard I
• 50:35
  had Jodie Cook on the show about a year ago and he was saying that
• 50:39
  he had taken a report of dog men coming out of a spacecraft. Okay,
• 50:45
  so but who's to say that's not our government or some agency or something.
• 50:49
  Who knows, you know, anything is possible in this day and time.
• 50:53
  So but I do know that we do have deep under around military basis
• 51:00
  not you know, and I'm only saying this because I'm going to link it
• 51:04
  to this missing person's clusters Okay, we have the dumbs, we have the
• 51:09
  map of like the Bigfoot sightings, we have the map of our cave systems
• 51:14
  throughout the United States. If you overlay those maps on top of each other,
• 51:19
  they kind of correlate. Okay, it's kind of the same concentrations of
• 51:22
  Bigfoot sightings, even UFO sightings. Okay, with where the dums are and
• 51:29
  where all the cave systems are. It's is that just a weird coincidence?
• 51:32
  Do you think, well, there might be a coincidence. There might be
• 51:38
  some there there if they are being made in dums and then released on the
• 51:45
  surface. I mean, think how many times you've heard about people reporting what
• 51:49
  sounded to be metal doors slimming closed, and then after that, not long
• 51:52
  after that, they have a dog man encounter. So maybe there's some there
• 51:55
  there. Maybe that's what's taken place. May be a dog man was released
• 52:00
  up to the surface. And if that's the case, if the government is
• 52:04
  making them and then releasing them from the dumbs, then why are they releasing
• 52:09
  them? What's the game plan here? So? I mean, the more
• 52:15
  questions you ask about this, the more you wind up with that's right,
• 52:20
  Yeah, I have That's why I have you here because I've got a lot
• 52:22
  of questions. And I'm not saying I know you have all the answers,
• 52:27
  but you've taken so many reports. Now, we hear a lot about the
• 52:30
  land between the lakes too, and that's one place where I've heard about that
• 52:35
  metal sound. And I think the way that it was described was it sounded
• 52:37
  like a trash can, like a large, gigantic trash can had been dumped
• 52:44
  from up high and hit the ground. And some people were saying they thought,
• 52:49
  well, that could be a portal opening or closing. I think that
• 52:52
  it sounds more likely that that's a door opening or closing to potentially some kind
• 52:58
  of maybe a hidden door or something to a facility. So I have my
• 53:02
  suspicions, bic Okay, I have my suspicions that there are a lot of
• 53:07
  bases and things at the National parks and that's potentially why we're seeing so many
• 53:13
  cryptids there. And I do I do some research in some of those National
• 53:17
  parks, okay, So I know that there's a lot of a high concentration
• 53:22
  of bigfoots in some of them. Now, I have not encountered a dog
• 53:25
  man any of them, not yet. But I have definitely encountered bigfoots a
• 53:31
  lot. So I don't know what, Okay, since you're taking encounters of
• 53:37
  dogmen and bigfoots, what is the highest concentration of reports you're taking right now?
• 53:42
  Are there more dog man sightings or bigfoot sightings in your world? Well?
• 53:46
  Understand, I mean I'm a dog man guy, so I have to
• 53:51
  actually search for Sasquatch eye witnesses to come on my podcasts. But the dogman
• 53:57
  eye witnesses they find me. So yeah, I mean, I've always been
• 54:00
  and always will be much more on the dog man side than on the Sasquatch
• 54:05
  side. And also, I don't help Sasquatch eyewitnesses come to terms with their
• 54:09
  encounters if they had a more traumatic one. I have helped some Sasquatch eyewitnesses
• 54:15
  come to terms with their encounters when it's been a really bad one. But
• 54:19
  no, I don't make a happit out of doing that. I just focus
• 54:22
  on I have my hands full helping the all the dogmen eyewitnesses. You contact
• 54:27
  me, in fact, somebody you know me to comment to me years ago
• 54:30
  about how they liked me a lot better before I got quote unquote famous.
• 54:36
  They wanted to talk. And yeah, I mean I was busy up to
• 54:39
  my ears trying to help the dogmen eyewitnesses, and instead of deciding to just
• 54:45
  casually chat with that person, I elected to focus on trying to help the
• 54:49
  dogmen eyewitnesses that were on my list that still needed to be contacted and try
• 54:54
  to help them. But yeah, I mean, I've always answered a question,
• 55:00
  always been much more so on the dog man side. So I deal
• 55:01
  with so many more dogmen eye witnesses than I ever will deal with on the
• 55:07
  sasquatch side. Well, that was a silly question because you you're you're the
• 55:13
  go to person when it comes to dogmen sightings and dog man encounters. My
• 55:16
  goodness, your your show is called dog Man Encounters and uh and so I
• 55:21
  was just I've seen more of an uptick in dog man reports than I've ever
• 55:27
  ever heard, Okay. And uh And like I said, I was more
• 55:30
  of a go to sasquatch person. Okay, So I understand where you're coming
• 55:34
  from with that completely, But you are the go to channel, the go
• 55:37
  to podcast to listen to for the for the reports for all these encounters and
• 55:44
  uh and it is almost like a it's like a support group, okay,
• 55:49
  because I see her. I watch your chats. You've been doing live shows
• 55:52
  and uh, and you have live chats going on and uh. And it
• 55:54
  is kind of like a therapy okay, like a therapy group. And some
• 56:00
  in some cases, just like here in my chat, you know, people
• 56:01
  are exchanging stories as we're talking and telling about their and they're relating their encounters
• 56:07
  to what we're talking about. Okay, So I think it is very therapeutic.
• 56:13
  And we do have some questions in the chat too that I want to
• 56:15
  cover before we go. Today, we had Patrick with a North American dog
• 56:20
  man project. Do you think that dog man can get used to being shot
• 56:23
  at? That's a good question. What do you think, beck girl?
• 56:28
  Not at all? The sense of vengeance these guys have, that is not
• 56:32
  a very good idea. It's not a good idea at all to ever try
• 56:37
  to shoot at one of these guys. I tell people, in fact,
• 56:40
  if you have a gun on you and you have a dog mean encounter,
• 56:44
  the only time I'd recommend that you actually fired the dog man is if you're
• 56:47
  convinced it's going to kill you anyway, Because if you shoot one and it
• 56:52
  wasn't intending to harm you. You really increase the odds of you being ripped
• 56:59
  apart by shooting one. It's not a given that's going to do that,
• 57:02
  but you really decreased your chances of walking out of that situation in one piece.
• 57:08
  So yeah, I don't think they ever would get used to being shot
• 57:12
  at. Their sense of vengeance is so high that I just I don't think
• 57:17
  that's something that would happen very often at all in the first place. Okay.
• 57:22
  So from a filled researcher standpoint, I have been instructed to never shoot
• 57:29
  unless unless I had had to, had to had to, Okay, And
• 57:32
  yes, I do carry a weapon with me at all times, Okay,
• 57:36
  I do. That's just me, Okay, because I'm dealing with stuff that
• 57:39
  could hurt me. Okay. So but I've been instructed not to for that
• 57:45
  very reason. One of those very reasons that you just said, the vengeance,
• 57:50
  Okay, because if you shoot at one of them, there's going to
• 57:52
  be many more hiding in the shadows, and that one may not come at
• 57:55
  you, but their people will, Okay, they're crowny will and they do
• 58:00
  a high they do have a high level of vengefulness. From what I've been
• 58:05
  told. So that just confirmed it, Vig, thank you for that.
• 58:10
  You don't want to shoot at them if you don't have to. And generally,
• 58:15
  even even in the instance of those gentlemen that I was telling you guys
• 58:19
  about in the beginning of the show today, some friends of mine who had
• 58:22
  gone into the deep woods where I'm going here shortly. Uh, they stayed
• 58:27
  up all night, They were surrounded all night, They were taunted. Okay,
• 58:30
  they did not know if they were going to make it out alive,
• 58:32
  but they did, Okay, they did. They got scared, okay that
• 58:37
  these men were. They were, they were frightened by it, Okay,
• 58:40
  but had one of them shot, they may not automate it out of their
• 58:45
  alive Okay. They never fired a gun. So so there's that. So
• 58:52
  if that gives you guys any kind of answers to that too, I think
• 58:54
  I don't think they're ever going to be used to getting shot at. Now,
• 58:59
  Vick, what has happened in your experience with these encounters? What has
• 59:04
  happened when somebody did shoot at one? Did it follow them home? Well,
• 59:09
  I've spoken with some of that witnesses who've actually fired at one. It's
• 59:14
  hard to remember it's hard to recall. In almost every case when people have
• 59:21
  fired on these guys, it didn't really have the desired effect at all.
• 59:25
  They kind of moved back like maybe someone had punched them in the shoulder wherever
• 59:30
  the bullet hit. But in almost every case it didn't seem to harm them.
• 59:36
  There have been cases where, yeah, I've spoken with eyewitnesses who you
• 59:38
  shot one and yet followed them home and that was just the start of all
• 59:44
  sorts of agonizing problems. But yeah, I can't point and say that it
• 59:51
  almost always goes this way or that way, other than to say that it
• 59:55
  just doesn't seem to get the desired effect when people have shot them. Yeah.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah, some say that bullets bounce right off of them sometimes, or
• 1:00:05
  the bullets maybe it's just not a high enough caliber to pierce their skin,
• 1:00:08
  you know, almost like their bulletproof. It's almost like getting hit with a
• 1:00:13
  BB gun. You know, it'll hurt, but it's not going to do
• 1:00:16
  a whole lot of damage. Okay, So just beware y'all. Okay,
• 1:00:22
  And I'm not saying anybody anybody who's watched us now who Patrick is with the
• 1:00:25
  North American dog Man Project, He's probably out there looking for dog man.
• 1:00:29
  Okay, I do not recommend to the normal everyday person to go looking for
• 1:00:32
  dog men. Just okay, be very be very aware of what you're dealing
• 1:00:38
  with. Okay, just be very aware of it. I have another question
• 1:00:43
  here too, and now this actually pertains to medieval France and stuff. And
• 1:00:49
  now I've talked about the Best Sage Budain before, John Fortman and Coco says,
• 1:00:54
  does Big have an opinion on historical werewolf reports from medieval France to each
• 1:01:00
  and are the old reports conflated with dog man attacks? What do you think,
• 1:01:05
  Big? Yeah, I think a lot of the werewolf legends come from
• 1:01:08
  people seeing dog men without any accurate way of describing or knowing what they're looking
• 1:01:14
  at. Is you know, back in the Renaissance times, for example,
• 1:01:20
  people just they came up with explanations on why and how things happened around them
• 1:01:27
  in the worlds where they lived. Well, if all you know, for
• 1:01:31
  example, would be the dark arts, because there are a lot of witches
• 1:01:36
  back then, or people believe there to be a lot of witches. If
• 1:01:38
  you see something walking around that looked like a cross between a wolf and a
• 1:01:43
  man that was walking around ambulating bipedal e. Then if all you basically know
• 1:01:49
  would be black magic to explain how that could possibly be, then that's probably
• 1:01:55
  going to be your go to. And obviously where a wolf is a name
• 1:02:00
  they came up with to kind of basically put a finger on what they were.
• 1:02:07
  You know, wolf man, were a wolf, but because where means
• 1:02:10
  men? But yeah, I think that just has evolved basically the present day
• 1:02:16
  where we know that these guys, at least in almost every case, these
• 1:02:22
  guys aren't quote unquote were wolves because there is a difference. Again, I'll
• 1:02:25
  say it again. A werewolf isn't a dog man. A dog man isn't
• 1:02:29
  a were wolf. A dog man looks the way it does three sixty five,
• 1:02:31
  twenty four seven. And a were wolf is, if they actually exist,
• 1:02:36
  that's a man or woman who has the ability to somehow transform magically into
• 1:02:42
  the form of a beast. So yeah, I mean I think that's where
• 1:02:46
  all these werewolf legends came from. People were actually seeing dog men back in
• 1:02:51
  the day, and they just didn't know what they're actually looking at, so
• 1:02:53
  they explained it away that way. Good answer you with you one hundred percent.
• 1:03:00
  And John and Coco have one more another question, says Vic always asks
• 1:03:06
  his guests if they thought their dog man was more spiritual or more physical,
• 1:03:09
  how would you answer that, VG, Well, if you do what I
• 1:03:14
  do, for in the period of time, it's only natural that you bounce
• 1:03:16
  back and forth from being convinced at one moment that these guys are just physical
• 1:03:22
  beings out there trying to make a living day and day out, And then
• 1:03:25
  before you know it, you talk with so many other credible eyewitnesses who report
• 1:03:30
  seeing things, experiencing things that point soundly towards the ones that they encounter being
• 1:03:35
  spiritual in nature. I mean. Perfect example, if you have someone who
• 1:03:38
  tells you about having a dog man encounter in Maine on vacation. One day,
• 1:03:44
  they freak out, they fly home to their home in Florida that afternoon,
• 1:03:50
  and then that night or the next morning, they go out back into
• 1:03:52
  their backyard and have an encounter with the exact same dog man. How could
• 1:03:57
  that be a flesh and blood creature that they had encountered? Mean, and
• 1:04:00
  then the very next day they encountered the exact same being in their backyard.
• 1:04:06
  Well, there are also sides of the coin that point soundly towards them being
• 1:04:12
  flesh and blood, credible eyewitnesses reporting seeing offspring walking up the side of a
• 1:04:16
  road with a fully grown dog man and seeing them eating fetid roadkill or drinking
• 1:04:24
  nasty, stagnant water out of a moss covered pond. So yeah, I
• 1:04:29
  just bounced back and forth. I'm not really sure what they are. All
• 1:04:32
  I can do is yes, yeah, well you have some good guesses and
• 1:04:38
  I can appreciate it. Piglet, we got Piglet in the chat. Piglet
• 1:04:44
  says, why do people always say they smiled at them? That's just bizarre.
• 1:04:48
  Now I've heard of dog men smiling at people, or it looked like
• 1:04:51
  they were smiling. Have you gotten reports of smiling dogmen? Tons of them?
• 1:04:58
  Yeah, tons of them. That's a natural behavior for these guys.
• 1:05:01
  And you can explain that one of two ways. Number One, because of
• 1:05:05
  their ridiculous level of intelligence, they know, like I said, how to
• 1:05:10
  push our buttons. They know that by doing that it's going to just freak
• 1:05:14
  us out. It's going to really freak us out when they do that.
• 1:05:17
  The other explanation is it's just a sign of aggression. It just looks like
• 1:05:23
  a smile, when in fact it's just a display of aggression. So you
• 1:05:27
  can explain that away one of two ways. Oh my gosh. I mean
• 1:05:32
  I've seen videos of dog My dog's never smiled, but you know, not
• 1:05:38
  like in a almost looks like a human sense of a smile. But I've
• 1:05:41
  seen videos online of dogs smiling, you know, And so I can I
• 1:05:45
  can totally think, like I can get a picture in my head of what
• 1:05:47
  that looks like. That has to be terrifying, Okay, terrifying to watch
• 1:05:53
  a dog man smile at you. What a dog's call at me in person?
• 1:05:58
  That it is freaky. It was a yellow kick and she my,
• 1:06:03
  the person that was with me, said to go over and pet this dog
• 1:06:06
  and if I do, she'll smile at me. And I thought, you're
• 1:06:09
  right. So I walked over and yeah, she smiled, literally smiled,
• 1:06:13
  and it was so freaky looking. So I can only imagine if a dog
• 1:06:16
  man smiling at you, how freaky it would be. Oh yeah, for
• 1:06:20
  sure, I would be freaked out, for sure. Okay, this is
• 1:06:25
  Patrick gives someone who mentioned had to comment about the dog man being shot at.
• 1:06:29
  He says, I've got an investigation that he's working on, and the
• 1:06:31
  person has shot the dog man so much that it doesn't seem to phase them
• 1:06:35
  at all anymore. Okay, well they need a bigger either or bigger never
• 1:06:42
  mind. I'm not going to make my comment here, But that means that
• 1:06:45
  the dog man keeps coming back then, I mean, and not hurting that
• 1:06:48
  person. That's odd. Yeah, have you heard anything like this before?
• 1:06:55
  I think that's a situation where the dog man isn't concerned about the bullets harming
• 1:06:59
  them, and they just happen to have the right dog man if they're going
• 1:07:01
  to do that, they just were fortunate enough to have the right dog men
• 1:07:04
  around to tolerate that kind of behavior. But is that behavior i'd recommend practicing.
• 1:07:11
  Definitely not. You try that with the wrong dog man in Yeah,
• 1:07:15
  that's not going to go well for you. No, it's not. It's
• 1:07:18
  not. Okay, hey, Chris Chris Holmes in the chat. If they
• 1:07:24
  are so uncontrollable raging beast, then why hasn't one popped in front of a
• 1:07:29
  camera while raging? Okay, well, Vic, there's not a whole lot
• 1:07:32
  of dog man on camera, right. There aren't a lot of dog man
• 1:07:38
  credible, good bonifid dog men pictures. But they definitely are out there.
• 1:07:44
  I've seen my share of them. I've seen pictures that would blow you away.
• 1:07:48
  I mean, just clearly that's a dog man. I've seen video too,
• 1:07:56
  video evidence that would just it makes it put the pictures to shame,
• 1:08:00
  because the picture is one thing. But video. Yeah, there was a
• 1:08:03
  gentleman about seven eight years ago who sent me a link to it was a
• 1:08:08
  private link to a YouTube video where he or some friends of his. I
• 1:08:15
  forgot it. I spent so long, I speak with so many eyewitnesses,
• 1:08:16
  but either he or some friends of his found out that there was a dog
• 1:08:21
  man or dog men in this particular area of the foothills of this year and
• 1:08:26
  Vada Mountains. Well, either he or some friends strapped this game can to
• 1:08:30
  a tree trunk and either that afternoon, later that afternoon, or the next
• 1:08:35
  day, broad sunny afternoon, not a cloud in the sky. This dog
• 1:08:40
  man comes walking into view from left to right, and as it's walking into
• 1:08:45
  view, it's between the camera lens and some bait that was hung on a
• 1:08:49
  branch about five feet from the camera lens. So it's literally between the bait
• 1:08:54
  and the camera lens less than five feet from the camera. Walking from left
• 1:08:58
  to right, and as you can see the front of the dog man,
• 1:09:00
  and then it turned us back to go for the bait that they hung on
• 1:09:03
  the branch, so then you can see the back of it. I mean,
• 1:09:06
  just footage that would blow you away. I could make out individual hairs
• 1:09:11
  and everything. I could see the transition from like a like a coyote is
• 1:09:18
  gray brownish like a gray cocoa brownish and black feathering in the hairs and all
• 1:09:28
  where it transitioned. It was close enough you could see that sort of thing.
• 1:09:30
  So, yeah, is there evidence out there for these guys, most
• 1:09:33
  definitely. Do they walk in front of cameras from time to time, Most
• 1:09:38
  definitely. But I'm not saying Chris is in this camp. But there are
• 1:09:42
  a lot of people who, as far as they're concerned, if they haven't
• 1:09:45
  seen any impressive photograph or evidence of a dog man, then it just doesn't
• 1:09:50
  exist. There is no impressive evidence out there, which that is about as
• 1:09:55
  myopic of a view as there is. It's ridiculous to think that. Again,
• 1:10:00
  I'm not saying Chris is in that camp, but there are a lot
• 1:10:03
  of people who think that way. Unfortunately, No, Chris isn't probably in
• 1:10:10
  that camp. I don't know. I just hung out with Chris out in
• 1:10:12
  Nevada, so we had our Space Out radio fan party out there and Chris
• 1:10:15
  was there. Was that Chris, thank you for that question. Okay,
• 1:10:18
  we have another interesting question from Carol A. Custer. Will they hurt a
• 1:10:24
  high vibrational being? I think they'll I say they'd hurt anybody, just like
• 1:10:29
  humans, because they are like a three dimensional being, right, Vic,
• 1:10:34
  We don't know what they will definitely do or what they definitely won't do,
• 1:10:42
  So I can't honestly answer that for you. All I can do is just
• 1:10:45
  put out there, put out an opinion, and yeah, I mean that's
• 1:10:49
  all it would be. An opinion is just worth that as a guess.
• 1:10:54
  So I can't answer that for you. Yes, we can't. I'm just
• 1:10:59
  assuming, mean too, Okay, I'm just assuming. Don't take anything I
• 1:11:01
  say for one hundred percent facts. Okay, I'm just giving my opinions as
• 1:11:05
  well, And that is all we can't do honestly. But considering all the
• 1:11:12
  reports that Vic has taken, I would take his opinion pretty seriously, Okay,
• 1:11:16
  I would take your opinion seriously, big, and I think it's important
• 1:11:21
  that we do that and sweetly morbid barsses to our own nature. Humans are
• 1:11:26
  not evolved in a comparison to them and their nature. And I'm assuming you're
• 1:11:30
  talking about and stuff, So what do you think about that, vig How
• 1:11:35
  do you think that dog men are evolved in comparison to humans? That's the
• 1:11:41
  thing I mean, I don't know. We don't know nearly enough of them
• 1:11:45
  to have any prayer at answering that question. I mean, to answer that
• 1:11:48
  kind of a question would require having one laying dead on a table and having
• 1:11:54
  examinations at nauseum done on them, so all I can do. That's also
• 1:11:59
  one of those questions that I can only guess. As far as the answer
• 1:12:01
  to it, I don't know. I have no idea. Oh yeah,
• 1:12:06
  yeah, here in the United States and in the UK, because I've been
• 1:12:11
  given at least one or two reports in the UK of unspecified animal attacks okay,
• 1:12:16
  unspecified, and people assume that these people were mauled to death by dogmen
• 1:12:26
  Okay, dog man or werewolves. It's mostly dogmen, okay, And that's
• 1:12:30
  happened here quite a bit. Have you taken reports of that of anyone being
• 1:12:35
  I know that they couldn't tell you themselves. Okay, but have you heard
• 1:12:39
  these stories about the unidentified animal attacks and do you think those could have been
• 1:12:44
  dogmen? Well, yeah, I do believe that in some of these cases
• 1:12:47
  you are talking about dogmen. There was the one boy in Kentucky. I
• 1:12:50
  forgot exactly where it happened, but yeah, there was a boy who was
• 1:12:56
  attacked and dragged up this mountain. When the authorities found the poor kid,
• 1:13:00
  they saw that apparently he was alive when the creature that grabbed him started to
• 1:13:06
  eat him. It started eating at his stomach, I guess. And they
• 1:13:12
  might have come along not too long after it started doing that and that ran
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  it off. But no, I do think that in some cases things like
• 1:13:18
  that happen. Again. Like I said at the start of the show,
• 1:13:21
  you're going to have deviant examples of anything out there. There are deviant tigers
• 1:13:27
  that are even more aggressive than your run of the mill tiger is there'll be
• 1:13:31
  a lot more likely to dispatch a human. You've got defnt examples of horses,
• 1:13:36
  of pigs, goats, camels, even deviant people who are dangerous to
• 1:13:41
  be around. So why should dog men or sasquatch be any different? That's
• 1:13:45
  true, that's true. And I can tell that John and Coco watch your
• 1:13:49
  show. Okay, they listen in quite a bit because because they know about
• 1:13:55
  some of your episodes. Here, one of your guests recounted a bear name
• 1:13:59
  Captain that fought a dog man and ran it off, solving her dog man
• 1:14:03
  problem. Do you think bears are generally able to win and fights with dogmen?
• 1:14:10
  That's another show that you're confusing for dog men encounters. There's a guy
• 1:14:15
  who created a show a year or two I guess about two three years ago,
• 1:14:19
  who he used his name in also the words dogmen encounters, and people
• 1:14:28
  for some reason confuse his show with my show. We do things a little
• 1:14:32
  differently. But yeah, I think you're probably confusing that show with mine.
• 1:14:39
  So yeah, I don't know anything about that episode. Yeah. Interesting,
• 1:14:45
  Well, I wonder if bears would run off dogmen and stuff. I mean,
• 1:14:48
  we hear about listen. I wouldn't want to be in a bear fight
• 1:14:51
  myself, okay, bear fight, But you know you have to wonder,
• 1:14:58
  I mean, how what is the relationship shit between animals that we know of,
• 1:15:00
  like bears and the sasquatch and the dogmen? You know, do they
• 1:15:05
  get along? They leave each other alone, or would they fight each other.
• 1:15:09
  I would assume they'd fight they had to. I don't think they're talking
• 1:15:15
  about a fully grown dog man. No, I don't think bears would want
• 1:15:19
  any part to do with a fully grown dog man, or one that's even
• 1:15:21
  close to being fully grown. You're talking about fully grown dogmen males. They
• 1:15:28
  can be eleven twelve feet tall, and they can be one thousand pounds or
• 1:15:30
  more. Think about the claws they have. They're ridiculous talons on the tips
• 1:15:36
  of their fingers and toes, and the huge kennines and all the sharp teeth
• 1:15:42
  they have. Now, beers are far from helpless, but with their intelligence
• 1:15:46
  added on top of all that weaponry and their ridiculous strength, I know beers
• 1:15:50
  are powerful also, But when you look at some of the feats of strength
• 1:15:55
  that dogmen have done, tipping fifth wheel campers up onto two wheels just by
• 1:16:00
  pushing on the sides without really any display of using very much effort. When
• 1:16:04
  you look at the power these guys have, I think they could dispatch a
• 1:16:09
  grizzly, a Kodiak even without too much trouble. I really do. Okay,
• 1:16:15
  what is the general size? I mean you said that you can get
• 1:16:17
  up to like I mean, twelve fifteen feet. I mean, I don't
• 1:16:21
  that is huge for a dog man. I mean, what is the typical
• 1:16:25
  size, because I've always been under the impression they're around seven feet tall,
• 1:16:28
  but they can get way bigger than that, right, Yeah, for the
• 1:16:31
  most part, there are a lot of variants when it comes to dog men.
• 1:16:33
  But yeah, normally a six to seven footer is going to be some
• 1:16:38
  type of a juvenile with a lot of growing left to do. But then
• 1:16:41
  again, it would make sense that you would have a lot more cases of
• 1:16:44
  juveniles being seen than adults because think about it, when you're young like that,
• 1:16:49
  you just you're out and about, you're looking for stuff to get into.
• 1:16:53
  You don't have maturity, You don't have the wisdom to avoid certain circumstances
• 1:16:58
  that you would avoid if you had the the wherewithal and the wisdom that an
• 1:17:01
  adult has. So that would explain why most of the encounters that people have
• 1:17:08
  are with the smaller ones. But yeah, I mean, like I said,
• 1:17:10
  the adults can be eleven twelve feet tall and sometimes over one thousand pounds
• 1:17:15
  in weight. If you couple that with their intelligence, how ridiculously fast they
• 1:17:20
  are their power, their claws. I mean, their claws can be six
• 1:17:25
  inches long. They're huge canines. They're gonna have bigger canines, bigger teeth
• 1:17:30
  than any Kodiak bear's going to have, as big as beers are. Their
• 1:17:34
  canines aren't exactly the biggest. I mean even tigers have bigger canines than the
• 1:17:41
  biggest Kodiak bear. So yeah, I don't think even a Kodiak would stand
• 1:17:45
  a chance against a fairly big dog man. Oh my gosh, it would
• 1:17:50
  be a snack okay for that dog man. Okay, the bizarre unknown we
• 1:17:57
  have? Eric here, I was just mentioning Eric earlier. He was wondering,
• 1:18:00
  if you have looked into ancient studies of Native American, Egyptian and Roman
• 1:18:09
  stories of their past and relation to dogmen and were wolves. Have you looked
• 1:18:13
  into that? I mean, I'm sure you have, Okay, but yeah,
• 1:18:17
  he was how many stories of our past have you looked into for your
• 1:18:23
  study of dog men? Like? Have you made those connections? Is what
• 1:18:26
  he's asking Zero, I don't research dog men. I don't look into them.
• 1:18:31
  I don't research them. What I know about dogmen is just over the
• 1:18:35
  years listening to eyewitness after eyewitness reports certain things. If you talk with an
• 1:18:41
  eyewitness and you're dealing with people who have had bear encounters with black bears or
• 1:18:46
  with grizzlies, for example. And this person over here in Santa Monica that
• 1:18:50
  you speak to tells you, and let's imagine that we don't really know much
• 1:18:55
  about beers or not officially documented, and they tell you, well, you
• 1:18:58
  know, this beer had like a grizzled appearance. It was kind of like
• 1:19:01
  a brownish grizzled color, and it had this hump between its shoulder blades.
• 1:19:06
  And then this person that you speak with in Venezuela, who clearly does not
• 1:19:13
  know this person that you spoke with before, they tell you the exact same
• 1:19:16
  thing. You had a hump between its shoulder blades and had like a grizzled
• 1:19:19
  appearance. Well, yeah, what I know about dogmen is from comparison.
• 1:19:24
  You pick up certain patterns time after time after time when you talk with all
• 1:19:29
  these people that they don't know each other. So yeah, as long as
• 1:19:33
  you keep your ears open and everything, you'll notice these patterns that you can
• 1:19:38
  tuck away as knowledge about these guys. So that's how I know what I
• 1:19:43
  do about dogmen, not from actually picking up a book or something or listening
• 1:19:48
  to other podcasts about dogmen or whatever, because I don't do that. I
• 1:19:53
  just try to focus on helping the eyewitnesses. You know that takes a lot
• 1:19:58
  of time what you do. And that's like me, don't I don't watch
• 1:20:01
  a whole lot of other shows, or I don't I don't watch TV at
• 1:20:04
  all, Okay anymore, I just don't have time. I'm always researching and
• 1:20:08
  looking into new things that talk about on air to share everything we can with
• 1:20:13
  the audience. Okay, everything that I know and everything I try to get
• 1:20:16
  the best guess, just like yourself, Vic, Okay, to come and
• 1:20:18
  join me, and I am so thankful that you're here today. This has
• 1:20:24
  been a wonderful discussion. We still have more questions and stuff in the chat,
• 1:20:29
  I know, okay, so sweetly. Morbid Beer was actually mentioning about
• 1:20:31
  the hunch, like the hump on their back. Is that something that's pretty
• 1:20:34
  common with dog man sightings where they have it's like a main kind of that
• 1:20:40
  kind of has a hunch on their back. Yeah, very common. Yeah,
• 1:20:44
  that's a very common quality right there. I'm not going to say that
• 1:20:46
  it's going to give them a foot or selling height. But in a lot
• 1:20:50
  of cases the hump is the highest part. But it just depends some hunch
• 1:20:55
  over more than others. With some the hunch is the hump basically what I
• 1:21:01
  call it. But yeah, the hump in some cases is the highest part
• 1:21:04
  of the dog man, but in others the top of their heads would be
• 1:21:08
  the highest part. Oh yeah, Okay, we have another question here from
• 1:21:13
  Patrick. A couple of shows back, you had a lady that brought up
• 1:21:16
  a theory about blood types. Oh my gosh, I've heard this before too,
• 1:21:21
  blood types and likelihood of encounters. Do you think there is any credence
• 1:21:25
  to that? Well, people with all sorts of blood types have had encounters
• 1:21:30
  with these guys. But I think there just might be something to that.
• 1:21:33
  Her idea was basically what she postulated is that if your rh negative, that
• 1:21:39
  increases it greatly increases your chance of having encounters with these guys. And it
• 1:21:44
  seems like there might be something to that. Does that mean I know there
• 1:21:46
  is I don't, but it seems like there just might be something to that.
• 1:21:53
  Yeah. I've been asked that before too. As far as any kind
• 1:21:57
  of paranormal experiences go, some people tend. And I have a friend who
• 1:22:01
  she's never encountered a bigfoot, yet her boyfriend has, and so he and
• 1:22:05
  I have the same blood type. I'm not going to say what that blood
• 1:22:08
  type is, okay, but we have the same blood type. So her
• 1:22:12
  she thinks like her theory is the same as this, that he and I
• 1:22:15
  have this blood type, so we're able to see the bigfoots, but she's
• 1:22:19
  not. She's a different blood type. I know. To me, it's
• 1:22:21
  kind of it's something I don't know. I haven't researched, but I've heard
• 1:22:26
  it before I have. We have another interesting question from John and Coco.
• 1:22:31
  Do you ever get people sending in fiction pretending it's a real encounter and how
• 1:22:35
  do you weat out the bad faith storytellers? I sure do, Yeah,
• 1:22:41
  I do. A trend seems to be people wanting to try and lie the
• 1:22:45
  way onto the show, trying to tell me that they were attacked by a
• 1:22:48
  dog man. It's almost like a current trend right now. Everybody's racing,
• 1:22:53
  well not everyone. There's still quite a few shows out there that have ethics,
• 1:22:57
  but it's not hard to fund shows there unfortunately, that are either paying
• 1:23:01
  writers to write up fiction and presenting these stories about the face eating dog man
• 1:23:09
  is being nonfiction when in fact it's just fiction and nothing more. I mean,
• 1:23:14
  yeah, it's unfortunate, but I do have my fair share of people
• 1:23:16
  trying to lie their way on to dog men encounters. One of the most
• 1:23:19
  recent ones, that's pretty funny. He told me about being out in Kentucky
• 1:23:25
  somewhere horseback riding with his friends, and they're riding up this grade when all
• 1:23:29
  of a sudden, he was last in the line. All of a sudden
• 1:23:31
  he noticed this big dog man walking up alongside him on his horse. Well,
• 1:23:35
  it swiped him across his chest, he said. And when it did
• 1:23:40
  and knocked him onto the ground. And after that, I guess it walked
• 1:23:44
  away. It let him go, he says. But what's funny is I
• 1:23:50
  asked him, Okay, if it slashed you across the chest like that,
• 1:23:54
  hard enough to knock you off your horse, that must have left some pretty
• 1:23:57
  impressive loons on your chest. And when I brought that up, I said,
• 1:24:03
  if that's the case, did you go to the hospital because of the
• 1:24:06
  wounds something like that. It's not something you put band aids on. You're
• 1:24:11
  gonna seek medical attention and he said yeah, he said I did go to
• 1:24:15
  the hospital. I said, okay, well great, I said, if
• 1:24:17
  that's the case, did they take pictures of the wounds or did you?
• 1:24:20
  And he said, well I did. I said, if you took pictures
• 1:24:24
  of the wounds, would you mind sending me copies of the pictures so I
• 1:24:28
  can look at them. So he said sure, he said, they're on
• 1:24:30
  my other phone whatever, it's at my wife's house, whatever, But I'll
• 1:24:33
  be heading over there tonight and when I get over there, I'll send them
• 1:24:38
  to you. I said great. So after we hung up, after that
• 1:24:42
  conversation about the quote unquote experience, then I basically put it into work where
• 1:24:49
  via a friend who lives out west, they knew two trauma surgeons, very
• 1:24:57
  experienced trauma surgeons whose special in helping people victims of large predator attacks, mountain
• 1:25:05
  lion attack victims, bear attack victims. So who better to analyze these photos
• 1:25:12
  and tell me their professional, qualified opinions on are these photos the real deal?
• 1:25:19
  So after getting that lined up, they said yes, they definitely would
• 1:25:25
  give me their professional opinion on the validity of the photos, the wounds and
• 1:25:29
  the photos. I got back with that quote unquote eye witnessed and said,
• 1:25:32
  hey, I explained the situation. I've got two trauma surgeons lined up out
• 1:25:36
  west who deal with as a specialty, they deal with predator attack victims.
• 1:25:42
  And they told me they'd be more than happy to look at your photos and
• 1:25:45
  analyze them to give me their professional opinion on the validity of them. Would
• 1:25:49
  you be okay with that? And he left, He almost left skid marks,
• 1:25:54
  couldn't get out of there quick enough. Didn't want any part of me
• 1:25:57
  sending those photos to those trauma surgeons to check the validity. So, I
• 1:26:02
  mean, time after time after time, it just falls apart when people contact
• 1:26:06
  me talking about being attacked by these guys. So yeah, to answer the
• 1:26:12
  question is, yeah, I have people trying to do that too often.
• 1:26:16
  Unfortunately, it definitely does happen. And as far as how I spot the
• 1:26:20
  charlatans, when I started doing this, I made a promise to myself that
• 1:26:26
  I would much rather play the fool and allow someone on the show who is
• 1:26:30
  just blowing hot air and just lying about their experience with a dog man,
• 1:26:38
  then run the risk of turning someone away at the door who actually did have
• 1:26:43
  their encounter with the dog man, but due to how they delivered it or
• 1:26:46
  for whatever reason, I don't believe them, but I turned them away.
• 1:26:51
  I turned away a valid bona fie dogmen. I witness imagine how horrible that
• 1:26:57
  would be. So yeah, that's why I made that promise to myself years
• 1:27:00
  ago, that I would much rather play the fool and let someone on the
• 1:27:04
  show who really didn't have the encounter and risk at the same time being so
• 1:27:10
  strict that I'm turning away people who actually did have encounters. But you know
• 1:27:15
  it is you've told people things about experiences you've had, Jess, I have
• 1:27:19
  too. These experiences actually happened to us, but because of where you looked
• 1:27:25
  at this point of you telling them about that, how you held your arms
• 1:27:29
  when you're talking about another part of the experience, they didn't believe you.
• 1:27:32
  They're one of those people who thinks that they can instantly spot a liar,
• 1:27:36
  so for whatever reason, they didn't buy what you told them at all,
• 1:27:41
  when in fact you're telling them the truth. So yeah, I just didn't
• 1:27:44
  want to run the risk of turning away a bona fide eyewitness like that due
• 1:27:48
  to whatever strange reason, and try to protect my ego well, no one's
• 1:27:56
  ever gotten one over on me. That's why I have that policy. That's
• 1:28:01
  a great poss I think you're you're handling it great, well, thank you.
• 1:28:06
  There are cases, though, for example, when they tell me,
• 1:28:10
  when an eyewitness tells me about being so close to the dog man, there
• 1:28:14
  are ways where I can most definitely vet them. Okay, well, if
• 1:28:16
  you're that close close enough for to touch you, for example, well then
• 1:28:20
  what about this? What about that? And if they actually had the experience
• 1:28:25
  we're that close, then they can definitely answer my vetting questions. Now,
• 1:28:30
  beyond a certain distance they can't. But a perfect example of that is episode
• 1:28:33
  thirty four, well thirty four and thirty five, but the guest was Michael
• 1:28:39
  Lawrence. He came on and talked about juvenile dog man that came into his
• 1:28:45
  tent one night and the ends of Barrego Desert when he was camping with his
• 1:28:47
  boy Scout Troop and it unzipped his tent door, came into his tent and
• 1:28:54
  sat down on his legs and licked his face. Well, when I read
• 1:28:58
  that report when I came in, I thought, okay, yeah, I
• 1:29:00
  really need to vet this guy if that actually happened. He's gonna easily be
• 1:29:04
  able to answer my questions, my vetting questions. And sure enough, when
• 1:29:09
  we scheduled the conversation, we broke the ice and very pleasant guy, and
• 1:29:14
  I thought, Okay, well, yeah, he seems like a really good
• 1:29:15
  guy. It's time to get down to brass tacks now. So I started
• 1:29:19
  asking him vetting questions and it was just like me asking you what the color
• 1:29:24
  of the spider on your shoulder is right now, Jess. He no response.
• 1:29:30
  I thought for sure i'd get a response out of that. No.
• 1:29:31
  But yeah, I mean I asked him questions that would be just like me
• 1:29:35
  asking you what the color of your hair is or asking you what the color
• 1:29:40
  of your eyes are. I mean, instantly, bam, the correct answer
• 1:29:43
  came back. Wow, this guy he actually did have that experience. Well
• 1:29:47
  what about And then I'd ask another vetting question that only someone who was that
• 1:29:51
  close to a bona fide dog man would know the answer to you, I
• 1:29:56
  mean, instantly, me asking someone how old they are? Instantly the right
• 1:30:00
  answer came back. So I thought, Wow, this guy is a real
• 1:30:03
  deal here. He actually did have those experiences. So, yeah, beyond
• 1:30:10
  a certain range, I can't necessarily effectively vet these people. But if they
• 1:30:14
  say that they were closed to a certain point where they're close enough to pick
• 1:30:19
  up on certain details and all that I can ask them about, I most
• 1:30:23
  definitely can't. Oh yeah, I can appreciate that. I mean, I've
• 1:30:28
  had I'm going to say two two people in all my days, all my
• 1:30:32
  days they ended up being not truthful about and it was It's never about the
• 1:30:39
  sasquatched off. It's always the dog men experiences. For some reason. I
• 1:30:44
  don't know why that is. I don't know why that is, but everybody
• 1:30:47
  wants to hop on board, I guess, and I don't know, maybe
• 1:30:50
  be famous. I don't know what it is. I don't know how famous
• 1:30:54
  you can get from doing this, but okay, or telling these stories.
• 1:30:57
  But I did find out that one person that I did interview was not telling
• 1:31:00
  me the truth, okay, not telling me the truth about it, and
• 1:31:03
  that did take some deep diving by people from the outside that were questioning him.
• 1:31:09
  And so anyways, I have another question. I have another question.
• 1:31:13
  I believe this is Todd I think from West Coast dog Man Project. I
• 1:31:16
  just did an interview with him and Shane Michael Chris recently. Hey, Bick.
• 1:31:20
  Have you heard of any sightings, many sightings or encounters that have seen
• 1:31:25
  UFOs at the same time. I can't remember if I have had any eyewitnesses
• 1:31:30
  telling me that they saw a dog man at the same time as seeing a
• 1:31:33
  ufo. I really can't remember. It's possible, but none come to mind.
• 1:31:41
  Yeah, I've heard a lot of people, not a lot, but
• 1:31:45
  some of the sightings do have UFOs in the environment when they're seeing these dog
• 1:31:50
  men and definitely sasquatch too. I've had that happen personally. Okay, Warren
• 1:31:57
  is in here. Warren asked, is Vic still here? From Dave Bunt
• 1:32:00
  from the UK? Is hearing reports coming out of the UK? Are you
• 1:32:04
  hearing reports from the UK? I do hear some reports coming from the UK.
• 1:32:10
  And as far as Dave goes, last time I spoke with him,
• 1:32:13
  we're supposed to have him back on the show to talk about his experiences in
• 1:32:16
  Delamere Forest, but something happened and he wasn't able to show up that night.
• 1:32:24
  So yeah, that was the last time I heard from him. I
• 1:32:26
  haven't heard back from since. Okay, I hear I hear several reports out
• 1:32:31
  of the UK. Okay and that includes those that were wolf portal. Okay,
• 1:32:38
  Patrick says it's not a question, but he definitely appreciates you giving witness
• 1:32:42
  witnesses a place to get validation and a safe outlet. So and Jojo says,
• 1:32:46
  you have a great memory. We got a lot of compliments in here
• 1:32:50
  today, so thank you. I'm seeing if there's any more questions before we
• 1:32:55
  go today, because we've spent a good hour and a half talking today and
• 1:32:59
  this is just always fun having you on VIC. I hope that you'll come
• 1:33:01
  back and out with me again. And I still have a million questions,
• 1:33:06
  you know, for you, but I know the audience has better questions than
• 1:33:11
  I do usually. Okay, so let's see here we go from John and
• 1:33:15
  Coco again a VIC, have you ever had anyone ask you to come to
• 1:33:18
  their property and investigate? And if not, and were you ever invited,
• 1:33:25
  would you go? No, I don't think I've ever had anyone ask me
• 1:33:30
  to come do that. But again, I'm not a dog mean researcher,
• 1:33:32
  so that's not my fourt I just focus on helping the eye witnesses come to
• 1:33:36
  terms with their encounters. So yeah, that's a round peg and a square
• 1:33:41
  hole or should I say, a square peg in a round hole. Oh
• 1:33:45
  well, no, y'all. If y'all just contact me and uh and I'll
• 1:33:50
  come out and investigate, we'll send somebody. You're going contact Todd actually with
• 1:33:57
  the North American Dogman Project here or Patrick. Okay, y'all, if you
• 1:34:00
  have any kind of reports, I do recommend sending reports, or if you've
• 1:34:05
  had an encounter, send them to someone like Vic. Okay, send them
• 1:34:10
  to Vic. Vic? Would you? You don't bring everybody on your show,
• 1:34:14
  right, only the people who are willing to speak publicly about it?
• 1:34:16
  Is that? How you work that out with witnesses? That's right? Yeah,
• 1:34:20
  there's never any pressure to come on the show. For some reason,
• 1:34:24
  some people they don't contact me, or they tell me that they were going
• 1:34:28
  to contact me years ago but they didn't want to come on the show.
• 1:34:31
  And I laugh and I tell them there's never been a requirement to come on
• 1:34:34
  the show. I mean, if you want help with your encounter, then
• 1:34:39
  I mean, let's just talk about it. We can talk behind the scenes
• 1:34:42
  and no one else is ever going to know about it. If you want
• 1:34:45
  to do a show, then yeah, we can do one. But there's
• 1:34:46
  never any pressure to do so I, like I said, I help dogmen
• 1:34:50
  eyewitnesses. And oh, by the way, I also happen to have a
• 1:34:54
  podcast called Dogman Encounters Radio. So yeah, I mean the two you aren't
• 1:35:00
  one of the same, they're separate. Oh yeah, totally, okay,
• 1:35:06
  Yeah, everybody's everybody's loving you be in here, Veg. And I am
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  too. I am too for sure. Yeah. As far as you know,
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  if you have a dog man report and you'd like for that to be
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  documented, I know that there are organizations like the North American dog Man Project
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  who they do take these reports and they do put them on a map.
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  And so just like these Missing Persons cluster maps that I show all the time,
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  and the Bigfoot sightings maps, the UFO sighting maps, it is good
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  to have those reports documented just so we can get an idea of where the
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  dog men are. And it seems as though the dog men are all over
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  the entire country, right Veg. Oh, you all over the world.
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  I've spoken with people I think from every continent except for Antarctica now, And
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  in fact, this afternoon I was speaking with an eyewitness and well he's not
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  in South Africa now, but he had an encounter in South Africa. So
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  yeah, I speak with people all over the world. We have encounters with
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  these guys. Okay. Wow, Patrick is the Texas State rep for the
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  NADP. So definitely boots on the grounds. That's great. I'm glad we
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  have boots on the ground field researchers here in the chat today. That's my
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  thing. I love some boots on the ground research for sure. Oh and
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  I wanted to acknowledge the superstickers y'all. Thank y'all so much for being here
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  I know, and for the support long Olympic foot I saw that earlier.
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  Thank you so much. Cosmic Joe Chronicles, thank you so much for that
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  supersticker. And Maren, thank you you and Gus hit that light button y'all.
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  If you hadn't already please and shared this video out today. If you
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  haven't already, thank you for that supersticker, Marien. And we have Chris
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  Holme. Oh my gosh, thank you Chris Holme. You're the best.
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  If dogg o man guardian is he a good boy? Is he a good
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  boy? I don't know. Don't throw don't throw a squeaky toy at a
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  dog man, Okay, please don't do that. Y'all. Okay, we're
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  not We're not here to provoke. Okay, I'm not. I really don't
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  want to. Have you ever heard about whistling in the woods at all?
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  VIC, They say you're not sped to whistle in the woods at night.
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  Have you heard that. I've heard that. Yeah. I don't know if
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  there's any truth to it. But if there is truth to it, then
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  I think mainly it's on the sasquatch side. It does something to get them
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  riled up. Maybe it affects dog men too. I don't know, but
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  all I can do is, yes, I know we're talking. We're talking
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  chew toys and whistling and stuff. I'm thinking it may calling a dog man.
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  I don't know. I hope not. I don't whistle in woods at
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  night. I try not to, okay if I can help it. But
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  yeah, whistling it calls in the spirits. Okay, So be aware,
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  everybody. So I hope everybody has learned something today, and to protect yourselves
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  if nothing else, when you're out in the woods, especially at our national
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  parks. VIC, thank you so much for being here. Can you please
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  tell the audience where they can find you and all of your shows that you
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  do every whey week. Well, thanks for having me. If you have
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  dog me an encounter and you want to speak with me about it, or
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  if you want to be a guest on dog Mean Encounters, please go to
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  Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. If you've had a sasquatch sighting and
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  I'd like to be a guest on my Bigfoot Sighting that's my newest bigfoot podcast,
• 1:38:20
  then please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me know.
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  And yeah, it's as simple as that, there really is. And like
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  I said, thanks again so much for having me. I appreciate it.
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  Well, of course, Vic, you have an open invite to come hang
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  out with me anytime. Okay. I love having you here. I love
• 1:38:42
  hearing first hand encounters actually be secondhand. Okay, come in from you.
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  But you've had your own encounters too, because we talked about that last time
• 1:38:49
  with Bigfoot and other paranormal stuff. Do you still have your Paranormal Experience show
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  as well? I do, but it's kind of hard to keep up with
• 1:39:00
  that, so yeah, I just right now, I've been mainly focusing on
• 1:39:03
  keeping Dogman Encounters and my two big Foot podcasts. Up and running. I
• 1:39:09
  don't know when I'm going to be producing more episodes for my paranormal experience.
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  But that's one of those things where when you're tripping water, you can only
• 1:39:16
  do so much. I trust me, I know, I know. It's
• 1:39:21
  great to be focused on it like one main thing, and but you're you're
• 1:39:27
  you're juggling it perfectly, and and you're doing a wonderful job. And you
• 1:39:30
  are a wonderful resource for anyone who has any kind of interest in the dog
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  man phenomenon and if anybody's had an experience or an encounter. So I'm glad
• 1:39:41
  that you're here. You are the go to channel and podcasts when it comes
• 1:39:45
  to dog man encounters for sure. So Vic, thank you so much again
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  for being here so much. Thank you well, thanks for having me.
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  Of course, do you have any advice for me? Okay, because I
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  am I'm one last word here. I am going on a I'm just going
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  to call it a dog man excursion, so what I'm going to call it
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  in the wilderness here pretty soon. Do you have any advice for me?
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  Wow? Yeah, there's a lot too that well, just be careful and
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  yeah, there's a lot that I could put out there about that talk about
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  paralysis via over analysis. How can I be concise about that? I would
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  just recommend on being careful what you wish for. Sometimes when you head out
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  into the field and research something, it can have a way of backfiring on
• 1:40:41
  you when it comes to where you are and wants to research you. So
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  yeah, just be careful. Oh yeah, I'm going to be careful.
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  And I'm not shooting anything. Okay, I'm not planning on shooting anything.
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  And I think that's I think that's a good takeaway today. Okay, very
• 1:40:56
  good takeaway. But see, I do this for fun and I've been doing
• 1:40:59
  this for a long time, so it'll be fun. And so yeah,
• 1:41:03
  and thanks again for being here. Oh my gosh, thank you, And
• 1:41:06
  you guys please tune in to dog Man Encounters okay, and uh and listening
• 1:41:12
  and show Vic some support. Okay. And also today I Coast to Coast
• 1:41:16
  AM is actually airing my episode, parts of my episode where I was interviewed
• 1:41:20
  by George Nori today at four pm Eastern, So you guys tune into YouTube.
• 1:41:25
  I have a link on my social media sites today so you guys can
• 1:41:29
  hear part of my interview. If you missed it in the wee hours of
• 1:41:31
  the morning two weeks ago. It's on there today. And also I will
• 1:41:35
  be back tomorrow night with a remote viewing show at eight pm Eastern, So
• 1:41:40
  please come and hang out with me tomorrow night and I'll see you guys hopefully
• 1:41:44
  in the chat over on Coast to Coast today and we'll see you on dog
• 1:41:47
  Ban Encounters Pick. Thank you so much again for being here and we hope
• 1:41:51
  to see you again soon. All Right, y'all have a wonderful day and
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  I'll see you tomorrow night. Bye Mosa, maybe to Beameyosa. Maybe my
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