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Mark interviews political strategist Ed Rollins. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: It's more Mark, Mark Simone on seven to ten. Woor Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk to the dean himself. Ed Rollins has been
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of white houses. He's run a lot
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  Speaker 1: of campaigns, some of the most successful in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Ed Rollins, how you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark?
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  Speaker 1: How are you very good? Hey? The idea of ice
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  Speaker 1: getting criminals off the street good thing. Buying Greenland it
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  Speaker 1: be a good thing. But does the White House have
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  Speaker 1: a messaging problem that they're not explaining things correctly or
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  Speaker 1: enough to.
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  Speaker 2: Get they are? You know, the reality is, as we've
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  Speaker 2: talked before, this is so much coming every day. But
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  Speaker 2: let me just say this. What the speech you just made.
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  Speaker 2: This was Trump's thought process. He laid out his thinking.
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  Speaker 2: He laid out you know, it's not always coherent. But
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  Speaker 2: the critical message was there's no going to be invasion
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  Speaker 2: of Greenland, which a lot of people were worried about
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  Speaker 2: Brightley or wrongly. Secondly, Greenland is still very important to Trump,
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  Speaker 2: and he says this has been picked up in much
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  Speaker 2: the analysis Hit but this is where it wants to
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  Speaker 2: put the Golden Dome. The Golden Dome is a structure
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  Speaker 2: over is Israel that basically knocks down drones and what
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  Speaker 2: have you. Reagan had talked about it with the Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars program forty years ago. It's an expensive not totally developed,
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  Speaker 2: not certainly funded yet. But I think there's no question
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  Speaker 2: that's that's his intent is to put a golden dome there,
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  Speaker 2: which obviously if you view the world in a different
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  Speaker 2: way and certainly the way he thinks, uh the engage
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  Speaker 2: and call him they called him glom that way. The
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  Speaker 2: critical the critical thing here, I think is that this
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  Speaker 2: will be a speech that will be studied long after
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  Speaker 2: Trump is out of office. Really today's really because this
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  Speaker 2: really is a thought process. This is what he thinks
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  Speaker 2: of his allies, is what he thinks of. This is
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  Speaker 2: his style. And I think you know, you couldn't You
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  Speaker 2: couldn't say down and say all right, this is all
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  Speaker 2: all the subjects. But it's a thought process. This is
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  Speaker 2: it's been repeated over and over again, but this was
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  Speaker 2: a different form. This was a form of where you
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  Speaker 2: had people in any business, leaders, what have you. And
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  Speaker 2: he's very open his thought process. He certainly wasn't willing
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  Speaker 2: to pat himself on the back, justifiably for some of
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  Speaker 2: the things that he's done, pushed credit away from some
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  Speaker 2: of the things that Europeans think they've done. And I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't say it was a friendly speech. It was sort
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  Speaker 2: of like, here's my thought process. I'm the most significant
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  Speaker 2: leader in the world, had the biggest military in the world,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what my thought process is. And you need
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  Speaker 2: to study it, you need to analyze it. So I
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  Speaker 2: think I think there'll be a lot of there'll be
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  Speaker 2: a lot of commentary, it'll be negative towards it. But
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  Speaker 2: I think this is the reality. This is what he
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  Speaker 2: thinks is what he's going to try and do the
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  Speaker 2: next three years. And he's claiming a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: things that he's done justifiably, and I think to a
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  Speaker 2: certain extent, it'll be analyzed and over analyzed.
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  Speaker 1: Now if you're the other world leaders. Uh, and Trump
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  Speaker 1: is so blunt and he just says what he thinks
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  Speaker 1: all that, even if they don't like it, do they
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  Speaker 1: kind of appreciate that for once they got a guy
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  Speaker 1: who straight talks with them and they know what he's thinking.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, haven every work work for a few presidents
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of political leaders. Uh, there's there's gigantic eagles.
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  Speaker 2: You know, humble men and women don't basically move forward
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  Speaker 2: the political process. Uh. But by being humble. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to got to believe in yourself, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to believe in the people around you, and you've got
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  Speaker 2: to march forward. Uh. And Trump certainly has never been
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  Speaker 2: uh been uh calm and understated. Uh. He's someone basically
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  Speaker 2: said this, wo are doing this, will have done Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And he's going to march forward. Now if they could
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  Speaker 2: put that in a coherent speech in which he given
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  Speaker 2: repeatedly and he has his cabinet give it completely. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you can have a real strategic plan for the next year,
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  Speaker 2: which the next year is the critical year for him. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, ten in ten months, have a mid term election.
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  Speaker 2: If he loses the Congress, Uh, then the last two
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  Speaker 2: years are going to be irrelevant. Uh says they're still
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  Speaker 2: gonna be president. But the day the day after the
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  Speaker 2: November elections, and certainly if the Democrats taken back, we
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  Speaker 2: begin to begin to replacement process. Uh. And that's never
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  Speaker 2: a good place to be no matter who who you're president. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he lose a lot of your power, not
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  Speaker 2: just to the Congress, which use a lot of your power,
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  Speaker 2: to the fact that someone else is coming forward, and
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  Speaker 2: my sense is that if his health health holds up,
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  Speaker 2: the Trump's Trump's gonna play play a very big role
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  Speaker 2: in who's his successor. Uh. No guarantees it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a banced No guarantees it's gonna be revealed, No guarantees
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be anybody. Uh. His legacy may be picking
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  Speaker 2: one of his kids and try and go take the
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  Speaker 2: political process that he controls today. By looking political processes
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  Speaker 2: and putting one of his kids in there, certainly bushed
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  Speaker 2: into that. Now this is done in the past. So
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  Speaker 2: my sense is this is a speech of the overanalyzed.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's way beyond Marlago or the White House.
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  Speaker 2: This is the world looking at the speech today, and
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  Speaker 2: everyone's going to have an analysis, and everyone, every every
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  Speaker 2: other leader in the world, except for a few hours,
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  Speaker 2: we have for him. Always I've got to criticize it.
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  Speaker 2: This is what he meant, that's what he didn't mean.
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  Speaker 2: This is what the interpretations are. So I think it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be. It'll be it'll be a major major document.
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  Speaker 2: Whether it was a major major speech or not, it
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  Speaker 2: clearly was his thought process. This is what I think
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  Speaker 2: I've done. This is why I think I've done it.
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  Speaker 2: This is you know, very very upbeat. This economy is
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  Speaker 2: critical and is going as I planned, and equally is important.
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  Speaker 2: The country is the most important country in the world.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't like that, that's too bad. As
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  Speaker 2: we are.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, Now, the President also said that he may
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  Speaker 1: go to Iowa later this week. Is this important for
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  Speaker 1: a president like Trump to get him out of the
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  Speaker 1: White House? Let him go out there and then speak,
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  Speaker 1: do speeches and do that. Is it important?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was a state that he's very comfortable with.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of stake in Iowa this year. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's become Republican state. But we have we have an
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  Speaker 2: open Senate seat there. We've got a couple of commercial
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  Speaker 2: seats that So on his run, you know, I would
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  Speaker 2: not if I was the political directory again in the
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  Speaker 2: White House, I would not run him around the country
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  Speaker 2: like they talk about doing. I would have ten or twelve,
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  Speaker 2: you know, one or two a month, big events in
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  Speaker 2: which he readly gets news. If he goes out in
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  Speaker 2: campaigns for fifty or hundred comgressional candidates, that's not going
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  Speaker 2: to do anything. It's distraction. Its first, It wears him down.
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  Speaker 2: He needs to focus on the American economy. People have
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  Speaker 2: to say, I don't care about Greenland, I don't care
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  Speaker 2: about this, I don't care. What I care about is
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  Speaker 2: my paycheck, my health care, my kids, my schools, my neighborhoods,
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  Speaker 2: and those are things he needs to focus on, and
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  Speaker 2: he can do that. He can be very charming when
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  Speaker 2: he wants to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I know traditionally the party loses the Congress in
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  Speaker 1: the midterms. But let's say all the big beautiful bill passes,
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  Speaker 1: stuff starts happening, paychecks increase, prices start coming down, the
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  Speaker 1: economy looks great in four or five months, Doesn't that
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  Speaker 1: mean the Republican's got a good chance of holding Congress?
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  Speaker 2: You It certainly certainly gives every unication. With the end,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot to make that happen. Again, Wherever it's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen is going to happen because he's sorry
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  Speaker 2: put in place. The communication message is what's very important.
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  Speaker 2: And again, if he's running around the world doing things
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  Speaker 2: everywhere else and not here, the Pantry doesn't care at
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  Speaker 2: this point game about what happens in Ukraine, does not
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  Speaker 2: care what happens in Venezuela does not care what happens
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  Speaker 2: in Cuba. They care about what's happening in Iowa, Nebraska, Texas.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're going to fix the energy prices, We're
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  Speaker 2: going to fix the food prices. But take care of
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  Speaker 2: our farmers, but take care of healthcare. Those are things.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a powerful voice if he wants to use
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  Speaker 2: it for those things. If he use it for those things,
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  Speaker 2: he gives Republicans watch for the chance to feel like well.
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  Speaker 1: For Democrats, all these crazy women with the nose rings,
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  Speaker 1: yelling and screaming at the law enforce. In the end,
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  Speaker 1: does that really help Democrats?
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  Speaker 2: No, you know, it may energize them a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but there's nothing Democrats can come up with this point
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  Speaker 2: in time. It's going to be this new magic policy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's going to make every soul. I want that.
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  Speaker 2: What people want is either want Trump, do you want
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  Speaker 2: more Trump? Or you want less Trump? And my sense
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats are smarter to go out and just make it.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to stop Trump, where the vehicles to
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  Speaker 2: stop Trump. If you don't want to stop Trump, go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and go vote for him again. It's ready to
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  Speaker 2: turnout historically to turnout is not high, and mid terms
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  Speaker 2: like it isn't presidential. It's not the attention, it's scattered.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's hard to get the attention
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  Speaker 2: that a president can get when he's out there campaigning.
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  Speaker 2: And the two races we lost this year in New
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  Speaker 2: Jersey in Virginia, there was a real low turnout among
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans a very high turnout among Democrats. If that's
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  Speaker 2: the key, that's that's why historically people usually why people
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  Speaker 2: vote presidents just party out is because they're mad at
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  Speaker 2: the president for some reason. The same kind of energies
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  Speaker 2: duote it to the campaign. This is duot in the
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  Speaker 2: presidential campaign.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ed roands, great stuff. We always love talking to you,
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  Speaker 1: Ed Rowinds the Dean himself, and we'll talk again soon.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Good take care, good day.
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