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Episode #168 w/Andrew Carroll · Kickin’ It With KeKe: Life, Love, & MINDSET

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Kicking In with Kiki.
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Speaker 2: Kicking it you Ki Ki kicking it the ki key.
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Speaker 1: For a little personality, switching up the storyline on God.
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Speaker 2: We making this story and books, changing lines one day
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Speaker 2: at the time.
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Speaker 1: How much problems to the side, enjoy yourself, freeze your
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Speaker 1: mind kicking it we Ki keep.
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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to Kicking It with Kiki. Life,
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Speaker 2: Love and Mindset, where transformation is all about being the
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Speaker 2: best version of yourself. This podcast focuses on healing, on life, love,
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Speaker 2: mindset and everything that it's painted to make you who
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Speaker 2: you know, the best version of yourself. Y'all know how
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Speaker 2: I like to do. I love to give my guests
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to introduce themselves. So I'm going to turn
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Speaker 2: it over to Andrew. Andrew, thank you for coming to
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Speaker 2: kick it with me today.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate the the offer to be
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Speaker 1: on your podcast. Thank you very much for this, Kiki.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely so go ahead and tell the listeners who you
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Speaker 2: are and what you do.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, my name is Andrew Carroll, I am a
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Speaker 1: well I do. We're a lot of hats, but we're
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Speaker 1: going to focus on the writing hats today. So I
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Speaker 1: am a writer, particularly in the poetry, short story, blogging,
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Speaker 1: and now screenwriting lanes. And I'm also the founder and
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Speaker 1: creator of my own multimedia. I want to call it
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Speaker 1: a multimedia umbrella called open Frame Media, where I write
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Speaker 1: and post blogs about you know, what's going on in
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Speaker 1: today's world, from you know, music, to sports, to cultural
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Speaker 1: events to a little bit on the political side of things.
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Speaker 1: And also I have my own independent magazine Imprint called
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Speaker 1: We Are Indie, where I get shot outs to the
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Speaker 1: independent artists that are just out there trying to make
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Speaker 1: their voice heard and their works be seen. And I've
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Speaker 1: been writing for but I'm like ten over ten years
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Speaker 1: of being a writer. But to go back further than that,
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Speaker 1: I've always had a creative imagination since i was a child,
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Speaker 1: but in my adult years, I've been writing since twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 2: I love that congratulations, look you jumped the gun because
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Speaker 2: I had all that and talking about that's awesome. That's awesome. Though,
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Speaker 2: before we get into all things, Andrew, I always like
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Speaker 2: the lead with a mindset moment, right, because if we
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Speaker 2: don't talk about how to shift our mindset, we kind
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Speaker 2: of stay stuck in the same person that you know,
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Speaker 2: we just go through life with tunnel vision sort of
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Speaker 2: speak yeah, oh what mindsets shift changed the way you
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Speaker 2: approach life.
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Speaker 1: Man, I can do a lot of sub I can
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Speaker 1: do a lot of example, especially over the last ten years.
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Speaker 1: But I'll be really honest to you. When I unfortunately
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Speaker 1: lost my father in twenty twenty four, that to me
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Speaker 1: shifted from you know, instead of me warrying about the
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Speaker 1: outcome of whatever it is that I'm working towards, it
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Speaker 1: was then let's just enjoy the journey. Let's enjoy the
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Speaker 1: path that we're on, and like you mentioned, doesn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: have to be about tonnel vision, but we gotta now
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Speaker 1: stop every so often and smell the roses. That doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean we're quitting. It doesn't mean that we're being lazy.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes, you know, and I'm guilty of this, and
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Speaker 1: we probably all are. We have the mindset of go, go, go, go,
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Speaker 1: go achieve this, achieve that while achievements are good and dandy,
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Speaker 1: we gotta sometimes sit down and go, you know what,
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Speaker 1: let's do it reflecting. Let's do a little reflecting. Let's
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Speaker 1: see how far we've came, and let's just appreciate the
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Speaker 1: moment that we're currently in. Before we move forward to
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Speaker 1: whatever's next. So to me, when I lost a parent,
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Speaker 1: that that event alone changed my complete mindset on a
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Speaker 1: lot of things. But in terms of what we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: it was that just stopping smother the roses. Sometimes there's
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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, and you can keep moving forward
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Speaker 1: after you do that, and hopefully as we go along
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Speaker 1: we continue to have that mindset and and and not
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Speaker 1: let it, not let life or anything else fall by
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Speaker 1: the have us fall by the wayside.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so follow up question and my condolences on the
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Speaker 2: loss of your father. Had what mindset kept you grounded
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Speaker 2: in that season? Because you know, grief comes and goes,
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Speaker 2: it comes in waves. So at that moment, what what
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Speaker 2: do you believe that kept you grounded as far as
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Speaker 2: mindset is concerned, I'll be I was with you.
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Speaker 1: Writing played a major role, and what I mean my
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Speaker 1: writing when everything happened, I started to journal. Now, before this,
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Speaker 1: I never drove it in my entire life. I never
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Speaker 1: didn't have a journal, didn't have anything that I kept
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Speaker 1: like track of, like life events or anything. It was
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Speaker 1: strictly just writing in my genres. But when I started journaling,
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Speaker 1: to me, that was one of the many ways that
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Speaker 1: was therapeutic, and that could also allow me to express
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Speaker 1: the grief that I was going through at the time.
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Speaker 1: So instead of me keeping it inside of me and
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Speaker 1: keeping it quiet and then let it like festate inside
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Speaker 1: of me, I said, you know what, let's just write.
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Speaker 1: Let's just write about our thoughts. Let's write about our day,
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Speaker 1: Let's write about what we went through that day. It
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Speaker 1: was positive, negative, or you know, indifferent. Journaling to me
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Speaker 1: kept me grounded throughout that morning season. And while I
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Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily writing in my other genres because creativity wise,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, in the right mind, said to me,
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Speaker 1: journaling not only kept me grinded, but it got that
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Speaker 1: creative drews is flowing again to where I can go
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Speaker 1: back to writing my poetry, go back to write my
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Speaker 1: short stories. And this was way before your I started
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Speaker 1: writing screenplays too. So for me, journaling was the one
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Speaker 1: key component that really kept my feet on the ground
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Speaker 1: and my and my meltal game somewhat in shape while
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Speaker 1: I was going through I was going through morning, the passing,
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Speaker 1: and my father.
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Speaker 2: Man, I'm so happy that you said that about journaling.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't give it a try until
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Speaker 2: it actually you just you can't do anything else with
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Speaker 2: your emotions except forget them out, because they will eat
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Speaker 2: you alive if you keep them all bottled inside. And
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Speaker 2: let's I know you've probably experienced it too. People just
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Speaker 2: don't know what to say in times of like you know,
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Speaker 2: when you lose people that's close to you, they just
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Speaker 2: don't know what to say. So you find yourself feeling like, dang,
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Speaker 2: the people that I thought were going to be here,
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Speaker 2: they're not. Are you isolate yourself? And so for me
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Speaker 2: when I went through a personal laws too in twenty twenty,
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Speaker 2: I've always journal but I found myself getting more detailed
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Speaker 2: in it. I wanted to kind of leave a legacy
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Speaker 2: behind so that when my kids, my other kids read it,
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Speaker 2: they can say, wow, my mom really left it all
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Speaker 2: out there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny you mentioned that, because
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Speaker 1: when I was cleaning my dad's apartment. Funny enough, I
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Speaker 1: think I knew more about my father after his transition
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Speaker 1: to when he was alive and not to sad and
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Speaker 1: gets no live. It was my dad. Of course, he
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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time together, but he also wrote
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Speaker 1: a lot of things too. He wrote letters, he wrote journals.
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Speaker 1: So it's just like that's where the family dynamic came
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Speaker 1: into play because when I was discovering that, I discovered
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Speaker 1: that he had a lot of my a lot of
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Speaker 1: my late grandmother's items his mom and she was a
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Speaker 1: writer too, she wrote like diaries and everything. So I'm
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Speaker 1: just like, I guess this is kind of like a
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Speaker 1: like a universal sign that I was. I guess I
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Speaker 1: was meant to write, you know, because like I didn't
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Speaker 1: know for years that it ran in my family until
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Speaker 1: I started going through his stuff and clean out his apartment.
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Speaker 1: So that to me said a lot about you know,
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Speaker 1: where I was as a writer. And I and I went, well,
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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess in a sense, its calm was
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Speaker 1: like faate misense, Like I guess I was meant to write,
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Speaker 1: you know, be a creator, be a writer, you know,
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Speaker 1: and do the things I've been doing for the last
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Speaker 1: ten years and especial for the last couple of years
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Speaker 1: with with with the writing I've done. So to me,
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Speaker 1: that kind of took me by surprise because I didn't
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Speaker 1: even know my dad wrote like that, and he didn't
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Speaker 1: been telling me he was alive. So just like I
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Speaker 1: don't know if maybe he was ashamed. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but that that definitely put a smile on my face
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Speaker 1: during that time period for sure.
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Speaker 2: Well I'm so glad. I'm so glad that you have
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Speaker 2: that experience. Uh. It puts a smile on my face
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Speaker 2: because I'm a boring writer. I've been writing so long
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Speaker 2: and I love it. And we're gonna talk about how
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Speaker 2: you got into writing. So when were you first introduced
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Speaker 2: to writing? Like when did you fall in love with words?
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Speaker 1: I should say, I think for me, I guess, you know,
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Speaker 1: going back before the adult years of writing. When I
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Speaker 1: was younger, I had a very creative, big imagination. I remember,
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Speaker 1: and I remember I remember stacking up Doctor Seus's books.
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Speaker 1: I used to be a Doctor Seus's book collector. I mean,
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Speaker 1: cat and hat, one fish too, fish, you name it.
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Speaker 1: I had it all. Like I was like a Dr
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Speaker 1: Seuss like fan of the family, right, So that started
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Speaker 1: with that. And then I used to collect a lot
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Speaker 1: of action figures. So I used to pretend, like I
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Speaker 1: used to build my own worlds and like pretend these
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Speaker 1: two figures were in that world. So that kind of
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Speaker 1: got the you know, imagination started. But then growing up
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Speaker 1: in school, I was more attentative when it came down
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Speaker 1: to the English classes, the history, the literature. The I
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Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to math and signs then and I
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Speaker 1: still don't care if about math and science now, so
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Speaker 1: that that hasn't really changed. So yeah, sorry, but math
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Speaker 1: and scigens was never my subjects. But when it came
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Speaker 1: down to English literature, speech history, I was more attendive
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Speaker 1: to those classes that kind of told a story right
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Speaker 1: there and then, and as I got older, you know,
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Speaker 1: I always used to try math ma. I always think
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna write, I wanna write, I wanna write. And
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Speaker 1: then around twenty fifteen, I was at, you know, a
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Speaker 1: pretty low point in my life, and so I went
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Speaker 1: up to a local dollar tree, picked up the notebook
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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, okay, am I going to journal this?
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Speaker 1: Or am I gonna am? I gonna do something completely
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Speaker 1: out of the blue. So then I started to write.
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Speaker 1: And next thing, you know, I'm writing poetry. Now. I've
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Speaker 1: never written a poem before that, so I wasn't familar
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Speaker 1: with the poetry in terms of the rhyme scheme and
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Speaker 1: how to like set up certain stances or anything. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know about that. But you know, five to ten poems.
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, you know, I guess we got
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Speaker 1: poetry in our lives. So we kept writing, and from
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen on towards it was nothing but poetry. And
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Speaker 1: then I want to say around twenty nineteen or twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty is when I started to write short stories. And
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Speaker 1: then from that point it was short stories on and
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Speaker 1: and then like I said, the other the blogs or stringwriting,
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Speaker 1: which we'll get into, but yeah, that was essentially my
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Speaker 1: first introduction to anything writing related was really in grade school,
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Speaker 1: middle school, high school, and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 2: So how has that transition to the transition being from
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Speaker 2: poetry to short story.
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Speaker 1: It was. It was challenging because it was the new
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Speaker 1: genre and it was now, okay, I'm writing three to
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Speaker 1: four to five eight lane stances to now creating a character,
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Speaker 1: creating a you know, a premise, creating a world. But
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Speaker 1: then I go, well, I was kind of doing this
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Speaker 1: when I was younger, of creating those worlds for my
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Speaker 1: action figures. So it's just like, all right, well, now
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Speaker 1: this is on paper. Now that's the difference. So for me,
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Speaker 1: I almost I almost was using my portrait as like
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Speaker 1: a cheat code. Because my first short story was from
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Speaker 1: one of my poems, so it was an ad one
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Speaker 1: of my poems. So I'm like, okay. So then I
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Speaker 1: took my time and saying, okay, we have something that
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Speaker 1: we can use, so now let's write you know, the characters.
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Speaker 1: And that took a while for me to figure out,
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Speaker 1: like the names and like the backgrounds and like the
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Speaker 1: personalities and everything. And then from that point, I can't
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Speaker 1: really explain what was returning by from that point everything
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Speaker 1: started to come together. It was almost like it was
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Speaker 1: a natural thing. It was like, Okay, I got a title.
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Speaker 1: Now I have a premise, I have you know what
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Speaker 1: the beginning's gonna be. I have the ending. And then
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Speaker 1: from that point, so the transition the beginning was a
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Speaker 1: little bit rough because it was a new genre. But
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Speaker 1: then after a couple of mistakes, a couple of setbacks,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, then everything starting to come together slowly. And
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Speaker 1: then from that point the imagination kicked in. I said, okay,
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Speaker 1: let's write about this short story. Let's use this example
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Speaker 1: from our life to write about this story. So a
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Speaker 1: lot of my earlier short story work was pretty much
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Speaker 1: stemmed from either my poetry or certain events that happened
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Speaker 1: in my own personal life that I used for examples.
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Speaker 2: I love it. I love that. So let's talk about
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Speaker 2: the blog of Yes. How did that start? Tell us
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Speaker 2: a little bit about.
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Speaker 1: The originally I created? This was it. It was last summer,
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Speaker 1: and I was at a point where it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I got poetry, I got short stories. But once again,
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Speaker 1: knowing me, I'm just like, what can I do next?
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Speaker 1: What can I do to challenge my writing, challenge my
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Speaker 1: way of thinking, challenge my creativity, challenge the process of writing.
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Speaker 1: So I was thinking, well, maybe I should start a blog.
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Speaker 1: Like you know, we're still kind of in that blog era,
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Speaker 1: but it's more driven on social media if his Instagram,
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Speaker 1: TikTok et, cetera, on YouTube for bloggers. But then I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: we're still in the era where people are posting blogs
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Speaker 1: and are posting articles and are posting about what's on
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Speaker 1: their mind. Let's do that from our own end. So
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Speaker 1: last summer I created the Blog of Drew, and during
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Speaker 1: I guess, I want to say the first thirty days
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Speaker 1: I was focused on what can we write about and
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Speaker 1: considering the world that we live in today, which is chaotic,
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Speaker 1: and unpredictable. I can essentially focus on anything that's happening
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Speaker 1: in the world of sports, the word of music, the
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Speaker 1: word of music, art independent, you know, art history. I
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Speaker 1: can write about, like I said, examples of my own life.
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Speaker 1: There was a lot that I could pull from that
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Speaker 1: I can create articles from. So the first article I've
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Speaker 1: written was like an introduction, It's like why the blogger drew?
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Speaker 1: What maybe going to that? And then I started to
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Speaker 1: write things about I wrote about I wrote an article
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Speaker 1: about mental health. I wrote an article about about certain
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Speaker 1: television shows I wrote articles about. So I wrote a
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Speaker 1: lot of articles about even my even my favorite things,
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Speaker 1: like I wrote an article about cooking. Like, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot that I can pull from. So for me, it
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Speaker 1: was another way of once again expressing my thoughts and
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Speaker 1: my and my personal opinions about you know, today's you know, society.
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Speaker 1: But also I wrote about some of the things that
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Speaker 1: I'm you know, personally close to as well too, and
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Speaker 1: it just kind of just took off from that point on.
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Speaker 2: I love that I had a blog too, and that
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Speaker 2: I transitioned. I would I started using my blog to
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Speaker 2: put my short stories on. Okay, then I transitioned to
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Speaker 2: writing novels because of the audience was like, you need
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Speaker 2: to take this down. We are invested in these characters.
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Speaker 1: What happened that?
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Speaker 2: So I love how versatile blogs can be. And like
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Speaker 2: you said, it's disguise the limit, especially with the climate
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Speaker 2: that we're in and uh, you know all of the
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Speaker 2: true and in your life you have different things that
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Speaker 2: you're going on. People like that, especially if it's positive,
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Speaker 2: they really be tuned in to it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And and some of my bog articles
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Speaker 1: I do have a slight edge so them, especially if
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a situation that was negative, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: be a little bit more expressive and that article and
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Speaker 1: let them know that, hey, these are my thoughts. You
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Speaker 1: don't have to agree with them. This is not the
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Speaker 1: writing where I want everybody to be on my side.
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Speaker 1: It's like, sometimes I'm a little bit more outspoken in
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Speaker 1: certain articles because this either has personally hit home or
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Speaker 1: I've seen this happen to my own friends and family.
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be a little bit more aggressive when
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Speaker 1: it comes down to the voice of the article versus
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Speaker 1: something that's a little bit more fine, a little more
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Speaker 1: laid back. So I have a good combination of the
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Speaker 1: fund and laid back articles and I have a good
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Speaker 1: combination of like the more outspoken edge your ones.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So before we least thing open frame media and
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Speaker 2: then we are in the we're gonna move to the
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Speaker 2: reality check. Right, It's a segment where growth sounds good,
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Speaker 2: but the truth is is uncomfortable. So what's an uncomfortable
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Speaker 2: truth people need to hear about personal growth?
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Speaker 1: I think one of them is you really have to
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Speaker 1: look in the mirror and look at yourself and really
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Speaker 1: take accountability and responsibility for the things that you do,
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Speaker 1: and then figure out what needs to be done moving
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Speaker 1: forward to do less of that. It's not necessarily about
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Speaker 1: being perfect, because nobody is, but it's all but also
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Speaker 1: we need to hold ourselves accountable. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: what the issue is society is is that we're so
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Speaker 1: busy put in a finger and blaming this person, blaming
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Speaker 1: this event, But then when it comes down to us
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Speaker 1: looking ourselves in the mirror, we're not ready to see
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Speaker 1: those scars. We're not ready to see those wards, ready
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Speaker 1: to see those marks that made us who we are,
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Speaker 1: positive and negative. So I think the most uncomfortable thing
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Speaker 1: that people are avoiding is to really look themselves in
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Speaker 1: the mirror and go, this is who I am, this
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Speaker 1: is why I'm at, this is why I'm here. But
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Speaker 1: then we have to do Then we have to go, Okay,
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Speaker 1: how do we now move forward with a different approach mentally, emotionally, spiritually,
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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. So to me, my own
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Speaker 1: version of the uncomfortable truth is holding yourself accountable and
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Speaker 1: looking yourself in that mirrorcause a lot of people can't
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Speaker 1: do that nowadays.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I love it. And what belief or habits do
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Speaker 2: you personally feel like keeps people stuck?
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Speaker 1: Habit wise? Hmm? I want to say there's a lot
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Speaker 1: that I think people get that makes people stuck. I
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Speaker 1: think I think the biggest thing is not necessarily following
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Speaker 1: what's going on with social media, because I'll give example
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Speaker 1: with me when it comes down to writing, I don't
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Speaker 1: necessarily follow trends. I don't follow you know, gimmicks or gurus.
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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you know there's some things that I'll
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Speaker 1: take advice from certain writers, but I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: insially follow trends on what's being written about or talk
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Speaker 1: about because they're already doing it. So I think people nowadays.
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Speaker 1: I think people are being stuck because they're too busy
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Speaker 1: following bandwagons. They're not too they're not they don't have
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Speaker 1: the ability to create their own bandwagon, so they're trying
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Speaker 1: to hitch on other people's and then they're realizing that
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Speaker 1: they're almost losing themselves in the process. So as they're
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Speaker 1: losing themselves, they're being stuck where they're at. They're not growing,
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Speaker 1: they're not evolving, they're not moving forward as a person.
19:45
Speaker 1: So for me, I think that's one of the things
19:47
Speaker 1: I can go on. I can make a list of
19:49
Speaker 1: things of white people being stuck. But for this particular moment,
19:54
Speaker 1: I think following trends or or following to me's other
20:00
Speaker 1: people's advice is what's making people. Uh is what makes
20:04
Speaker 1: it's what is making people be stuck in their own
20:08
Speaker 1: you know, in their own waye And until they figure
20:11
Speaker 1: out a way to find their own identity, it's going
20:14
Speaker 1: to continue to be that way unfortunately.
20:18
Speaker 2: Right. I agree, I agree. So what is one hard
20:22
Speaker 2: lesson that's shade who you are today?
20:28
Speaker 1: I think one of the lessons I've learned is and
20:34
Speaker 1: there's a lot, Like I said, I'm just thinking about
20:35
Speaker 1: the lessons from my dad to even my mother, my grandmother, uncles, cousins,
20:41
Speaker 1: you name it. But I think the biggest heart lesson
20:44
Speaker 1: I've discovered was that nobody is truly going to save you.
20:49
Speaker 1: In order for you to live the life that you
20:52
Speaker 1: want to live and do the things that you want
20:54
Speaker 1: to do, you have to put on your bootstraps and
20:57
Speaker 1: go to work. And not to say I've always I've
21:00
Speaker 1: always had to work ethic, but in certain cases I
21:05
Speaker 1: was overthinking my strategy and overthinking my situation and that
21:08
Speaker 1: led to kind of some you know, stubborn, hardheaded moments
21:12
Speaker 1: that set me back or made me, you know, be
21:15
Speaker 1: stuck for that moment. So I think the biggest lesson
21:18
Speaker 1: for me was nobody's gonna save you. You have to you know,
21:22
Speaker 1: your your your life and your features in your own hands.
21:25
Speaker 1: And obviously you're gonna have support and and and and
21:29
Speaker 1: whatnot from friends and family, but at the end of
21:31
Speaker 1: the day, it's all on you.
21:32
Speaker 2: They're not gonna do it, Yeah, because no one is
21:35
Speaker 2: coming to save you. You have to save yourself.
21:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, Exactly.
21:39
Speaker 2: When it comes to love, what is one reality people
21:43
Speaker 2: need to understand about love and relationship.
21:47
Speaker 1: Love and relationships. I think the one reality that people
21:51
Speaker 1: are being lost on that it's it's a two way street.
21:56
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people head into relationships and
22:00
Speaker 1: love with the one sided mindset of Okay, if this
22:04
Speaker 1: person loves me, they're going to have to do everything
22:07
Speaker 1: that I see and do. And while that might work
22:11
Speaker 1: for a short period of time, eventually that person's gonna
22:14
Speaker 1: realize that I'm stuck in a one way in a
22:17
Speaker 1: one way relationship. So for me, it takes two to tango.
22:22
Speaker 1: It takes two people of the dance in this type
22:25
Speaker 1: of world. And if you don't have anybody that is
22:27
Speaker 1: willing to also put in the work and put in
22:30
Speaker 1: a sacrifice that you're doing, it's not gonna work, no
22:32
Speaker 1: matter how good that no matter how good looking that
22:35
Speaker 1: person is, no matter how you feel when you're around them,
22:39
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. If both people are not willing to put
22:42
Speaker 1: in the work and put in a sacrifice to make something,
22:46
Speaker 1: to make something work for the long run, then if
22:50
Speaker 1: you had that short term thinking, it's not gonna work
22:52
Speaker 1: at all, no matter what.
22:54
Speaker 2: Absolutely I agree. Well, let's moving back to Andrew. Tell
22:59
Speaker 2: us about the frame media. How did you start it?
23:02
Speaker 2: Why did you start it? Tell us all about it?
23:05
Speaker 1: So how I started was okay. So going back to
23:08
Speaker 1: last year, I did the blog and that was a
23:11
Speaker 1: good run. And then towards the end of the year,
23:13
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I felt burnt out, but
23:15
Speaker 1: I might once again, how my mind works. What can
23:18
Speaker 1: we do next? How can I evolve? How can I
23:20
Speaker 1: grow all the good stuff? So I put the blog
23:23
Speaker 1: on a pause. But then I was thinking, you know what,
23:27
Speaker 1: I did have a previous concept that I created back
23:30
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty called we are Indie Wednesdays, and what
23:33
Speaker 1: it was was every Wednesday, I would give an independent
23:37
Speaker 1: artists a shout out on my page, giving them some love,
23:40
Speaker 1: plugging their work, plugging their social media links, whatever the
23:44
Speaker 1: case may be. And that was a really popular concept
23:47
Speaker 1: that led to me meeting a lot of writers, including Lilian.
23:50
Speaker 1: So that concept lasted for about two years, and I
23:54
Speaker 1: shut it down because at the time it wasn't quite
23:56
Speaker 1: sure if wanted to continue to do it or not.
23:59
Speaker 1: So fast forward till late last year, I was like, okay,
24:02
Speaker 1: I got the blog. I'm like, what else can I do?
24:04
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, well, let's bring back we are
24:06
Speaker 1: Indie but we're gonna drop the Wednesdays and just post,
24:11
Speaker 1: you know, post it whenever we can. So I got
24:13
Speaker 1: the blog, I got this independent concept, but I'm just like, hmmm,
24:17
Speaker 1: I'm like, how can I put it under one umbro
24:20
Speaker 1: to where there its own separate entities but under the
24:24
Speaker 1: same like um brother home. That's where open frame Media
24:27
Speaker 1: came to play and to be interest you. I don't
24:30
Speaker 1: know how I got the name open frame Media. I
24:32
Speaker 1: think I was. I think I was looking at one
24:35
Speaker 1: of my windows and the frame was open. I'm just like,
24:38
Speaker 1: all right, open frame It just the light bulb came
24:42
Speaker 1: in my head. I don't know beyond that, I don't
24:45
Speaker 1: know why I named it that, but that's probably the
24:47
Speaker 1: reason why, honestly. So I launched that earlier this year,
24:52
Speaker 1: and like I said, I'm treating it as like a
24:54
Speaker 1: multimedia umbrolla with two different entities. But then you know,
24:59
Speaker 1: I had the screen writing under there. So eventually, at
25:02
Speaker 1: some point I am going to turn into a full
25:04
Speaker 1: fledged multimedia production company to where we have the blog,
25:09
Speaker 1: we have that we are any concept, and then now
25:11
Speaker 1: we have the screenplays on anything our belt to where
25:14
Speaker 1: we're not only writing screenplays but we're eventually going to
25:17
Speaker 1: start to look into, you know, getting into the producing
25:20
Speaker 1: side of things, to where now open framed media is
25:23
Speaker 1: essentially a multimedia home for all my ideas that are
25:27
Speaker 1: running in my head or all the ideas that I
25:29
Speaker 1: you know, that I can come up with and create.
25:32
Speaker 2: I love it though, because we as a creative we
25:34
Speaker 2: don't really have a lot of spaces for us. So
25:37
Speaker 2: thank you for creating a space, a positive space for
25:41
Speaker 2: us to have somewhere to get celebrated, give the people flowers.
25:46
Speaker 2: That is very big for me.
25:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean as an independent artisan. You probably
25:51
Speaker 1: noticed too, it's it's hard to get the support from
25:55
Speaker 1: you know, the big bad marketing machines that are out
25:59
Speaker 1: there because they look at independent artists. It's almost like
26:02
Speaker 1: Pian's unfortunately, but we're the ones who are keeping this
26:05
Speaker 1: thing alive. If you're a writer, if you're a painter,
26:08
Speaker 1: if you're a musician or actor or whatever, you know,
26:11
Speaker 1: whatever your creative lane is independent art form. To this day,
26:16
Speaker 1: it's still thriving, it's still popular. It's still among the
26:20
Speaker 1: most you know, sought out and almost copied art form
26:24
Speaker 1: that's out there. And I'm glad that I created a
26:28
Speaker 1: concept where I can give them their flowers, I can
26:30
Speaker 1: give them love, I can give them support, because unfortunately,
26:34
Speaker 1: they're probably not going to get it from the closest people.
26:37
Speaker 1: They might get it, you know, from their peers, they're
26:39
Speaker 1: probably not going to get it from a lot of
26:41
Speaker 1: people that they thought that they were going to receive
26:43
Speaker 1: it from. So that's why we are India exists for
26:46
Speaker 1: that reason alone.
26:48
Speaker 2: Yep, Well you just answered about the question that I
26:50
Speaker 2: was about that. How did that come about? I mean
26:55
Speaker 2: you could talk about it if you like. We are Indy.
26:58
Speaker 2: I love the name.
26:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean back in twenty twenty, when the
27:02
Speaker 1: pandemic was happening, you know, we were all shut down
27:06
Speaker 1: from the world. We were all in our houses, we
27:08
Speaker 1: were all border over our minds. One day I was
27:12
Speaker 1: looking over all my work and I'm just like, I
27:15
Speaker 1: have a lot of work. It was mostly you know,
27:17
Speaker 1: poetry and short It was poetry and I want to
27:19
Speaker 1: say one to two short stories, but still a lot
27:21
Speaker 1: of poems I had. I'm like, have a lot of work.
27:23
Speaker 1: But then I go, how can I put this work
27:28
Speaker 1: out to the public so then people can finally see
27:31
Speaker 1: what I've been writing At the time for about five years.
27:34
Speaker 1: Because the first five years, key key, nobody, I want
27:38
Speaker 1: to say, nobody knew that was writing, but nobody saw
27:41
Speaker 1: from a public perspective that was writing, right, they just
27:44
Speaker 1: knew that I was writing, but nobody from a social
27:48
Speaker 1: media perspective solid. So I started to slowly like put
27:53
Speaker 1: out like poetry on my page, you know, here and there,
27:57
Speaker 1: and I would get like a ton of likes, a
28:00
Speaker 1: follow followers, and there are mostly writers. So I started
28:03
Speaker 1: to like look on their page what they were writing about,
28:06
Speaker 1: kind of like you, kind of spying their page and going, Okay,
28:09
Speaker 1: I see you. I will follow them, they will follow
28:11
Speaker 1: me back, and that's how I was able to grow
28:13
Speaker 1: my audience a little bit. But then I go, man,
28:15
Speaker 1: like these there's a lot of great talent that I'm following.
28:20
Speaker 1: Let me find out. Let me figure out a way
28:21
Speaker 1: since they supported me, let me figure out a way
28:24
Speaker 1: to give back to them. Right. That's where the weird
28:27
Speaker 1: Indie Wednesdays came into mind. And what I would do
28:30
Speaker 1: is I would like put one of their like poster
28:33
Speaker 1: pictures on my story, and I would like put their
28:35
Speaker 1: hand on my story, and I would kind of give
28:38
Speaker 1: them like a brief summary of who they were, what
28:40
Speaker 1: their genre is, what their art from was, and what
28:43
Speaker 1: they're currently working on. So then it went from me
28:47
Speaker 1: putting that on my stories to them put it on
28:50
Speaker 1: my on my actual post, on my page, and that
28:53
Speaker 1: pull up too because now you can actually see it
28:55
Speaker 1: on my on my on my timeline, the actual post.
28:59
Speaker 1: So I I did that for two years, and that's
29:02
Speaker 1: where the growth of the independent you know artists you
29:07
Speaker 1: know grew because for me, in my opinion, around that
29:11
Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty twenty two time period, that's when to me,
29:16
Speaker 1: the growth of online you know creators kind of you
29:19
Speaker 1: know came about. And as we're seeing that now through
29:21
Speaker 1: TikTok and things of that nature. So I'm proud to
29:25
Speaker 1: say that I was kind of like in the beginning
29:27
Speaker 1: stages of that growth that we see now all giving
29:31
Speaker 1: out shoutouts to independent you know artists that weren't given
29:34
Speaker 1: the love that that they deserved.
29:36
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I love that I started kicking it with in
29:40
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, so I can't get it.
29:43
Speaker 1: See, so here you are six years later still and again,
29:48
Speaker 1: I think twenty twenty was a pivotal year for a
29:50
Speaker 1: lot of artists because again we were shut from the world,
29:53
Speaker 1: so we had to come up with waves to kind
29:56
Speaker 1: of get us out there without necessarily going outside at
29:59
Speaker 1: that time.
30:00
Speaker 2: Absolutely so tell the listeners how they can follow you,
30:04
Speaker 2: where can they find your work, and all the things
30:07
Speaker 2: how they can support absolutely well.
30:10
Speaker 1: My Instagram handle is at Drew B. Carroll that's d
30:13
Speaker 1: r E. That's d r E w B and then
30:16
Speaker 1: Carol c A R R O l L. That's my
30:19
Speaker 1: Instagram handle. And in terms of Open frame Media, I
30:24
Speaker 1: have a natural website where you can see all the blogs,
30:26
Speaker 1: all the we are indie issues, and you can see
30:29
Speaker 1: updates on my screenwriting and just updates on just my
30:32
Speaker 1: next moves in general. That's at www dot openframemedia dot org.
30:38
Speaker 1: So that's the official website to open Framemedia. So you
30:41
Speaker 1: can follow me on Instagram, follow them on a website, continue,
30:44
Speaker 1: you know, see the you know, you can see my
30:46
Speaker 1: journey and growth as a writer. And I got a
30:48
Speaker 1: lot of exciting things I had on actually in the process.
30:52
Speaker 1: I'm an early pre production of producer my first short
30:54
Speaker 1: film this summer, so for one of my screenplays, so
30:57
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get that start. So I'm currently building,
31:02
Speaker 1: like the cast and crew. It's going to be a
31:04
Speaker 1: small cast and crew, but it's going to be a
31:06
Speaker 1: pivotal one because it's the first film that I'm producing
31:09
Speaker 1: from my own screenplays, and I do have another screenplay
31:13
Speaker 1: idea on mine, but I'm I don't have a story
31:16
Speaker 1: or a premise about it yet. I got a couple
31:18
Speaker 1: of ideas in mind with it, but it involves it
31:22
Speaker 1: involves the spelling Bee, but it's going to be somewhat
31:25
Speaker 1: of a twitch to it. So I'm excited to get
31:27
Speaker 1: that started at some point this year. But yeah, my
31:30
Speaker 1: focus right now is the short film, and of course
31:34
Speaker 1: me still turning out you know, a blog of Drew articles.
31:37
Speaker 1: I'm working on issue number three of We Are Indie,
31:40
Speaker 1: So I got a couple of people in mind that
31:42
Speaker 1: I want to highlight. So that's what that's what's cooking
31:46
Speaker 1: in the lab right now. And I'm really excited, Like
31:48
Speaker 1: I'm probably having the most fun as a writer over
31:52
Speaker 1: the last couple of years that I have like in
31:54
Speaker 1: quite a long time. So I'm looking forward to people
31:57
Speaker 1: seeing what I have next, and it's going to be exciting.
32:00
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it.
32:01
Speaker 2: I was so excited for you like short films. I mean,
32:05
Speaker 2: I love that. And so speaking of short films, like
32:07
Speaker 2: talk about the screenwriting. So we started in poetry and
32:10
Speaker 2: then you went to short stories and you know have
32:12
Speaker 2: the blog. So now screenwriting. How did all of that
32:16
Speaker 2: transition around.
32:19
Speaker 1: The same time that I started the blog or drew
32:22
Speaker 1: last summer. It was something about starting that that made
32:29
Speaker 1: me go, well, I eventually at some point want to
32:32
Speaker 1: pivot into when this like you know, full time as
32:35
Speaker 1: like as like a career. But I'm like, how do
32:38
Speaker 1: I go about that? You know, people now, you know,
32:41
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people nowadays are either authors or
32:44
Speaker 1: their songwriters or they're screenwriters. And I said, well, author,
32:49
Speaker 1: I guess I'm an author in a different sense that
32:51
Speaker 1: I published, but I don't necessarily publish physical books. So
32:53
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm already an author. And I said songwriting. Now,
32:57
Speaker 1: I don't think the music industry is not my cup
32:59
Speaker 1: of tito work in. So I said, what about screenwriting Again,
33:03
Speaker 1: that's a world where you can build where I could
33:05
Speaker 1: really use my imagination and stretch it out to the
33:09
Speaker 1: furthest you know, possible realms I can. So then once
33:14
Speaker 1: again I had the cheat code because I have short
33:18
Speaker 1: stories and I have portrait that I can use as
33:20
Speaker 1: a potential creative base to write my own screenplay. So
33:24
Speaker 1: the first screenplay I wrote was an adaptation of one
33:29
Speaker 1: of one of my short stories, and then from that
33:31
Speaker 1: point I mixed in adaptations and original ideas for my screenplay.
33:37
Speaker 1: So I have five screenplays in the can right now,
33:41
Speaker 1: and one of the screenplays, the short film of the Producing,
33:44
Speaker 1: is actually based on a short story that I've written
33:47
Speaker 1: that I wrote a couple months ago, and then recent
33:50
Speaker 1: screenplay that I wrote that I finished up. It was
33:53
Speaker 1: an original idea, but it was based on I was
33:59
Speaker 1: reading or to go about how somebody like went to
34:02
Speaker 1: their high school reunion and wasn't like the reunion that
34:04
Speaker 1: they thought it was. So that got me going, like,
34:07
Speaker 1: how can I maybe I can write something not in
34:09
Speaker 1: the high school run with things, but somebody going back
34:11
Speaker 1: to their hometown and it's a bitter sat it's a
34:14
Speaker 1: bitter shot reunion. So that's what that's screamplays about. But yeah,
34:19
Speaker 1: that all started last summer. Just had another creative Inpiphity.
34:23
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just let's just start writing screenplays.
34:25
Speaker 1: And then from that point, we just you know, started
34:29
Speaker 1: to write out ideas and now it's led to five
34:33
Speaker 1: screenplays and like I said, I'm working on you know,
34:35
Speaker 1: producing my first one this summer.
34:37
Speaker 2: So that's amazing. Congratulations. I'm so excited. I cannot wait
34:42
Speaker 2: to follow and be a part of the journey.
34:46
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, And like I said, I appreciate you
34:50
Speaker 1: know being on here too, because I love talking about
34:53
Speaker 1: my writing journey. I love talking about how I got
34:56
Speaker 1: into all these things because even to this day, I'm
34:59
Speaker 1: just like, Damn, I really did.
35:01
Speaker 2: All if you have a lot, and I can tell
35:06
Speaker 2: that you love it because of the smile on your
35:08
Speaker 2: face when you talk about your writing so much success.
35:11
Speaker 2: And now we're moving into the mic drop section because
35:14
Speaker 2: we always want to leave a mic drop moment for
35:16
Speaker 2: the listeners to take something that resonates, of course, and
35:20
Speaker 2: apply it to their everyday life that can help them
35:23
Speaker 2: transform their mindset, mind, body, and spirit. Yes, what is
35:27
Speaker 2: one sentence about life? You want people to remember.
35:36
Speaker 1: The decisions that you make today will have an impact
35:40
Speaker 1: on your tomorrow's.
35:44
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, I love that.
35:50
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's it right there.
35:52
Speaker 3: Than if I had a mic I would drop it thanks.
36:07
Speaker 2: Thanks.
36:07
Speaker 1: I don't know if we could top that, right, you
36:11
Speaker 1: top that? Damn?
36:15
Speaker 2: What is one truth about love everyone should understand?
36:21
Speaker 1: I think the one truth that people should know about
36:24
Speaker 1: love is that it's a it's a forever work in progress.
36:34
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is not just loving
36:37
Speaker 1: somebody in a relationship, but most importantly loving yourself. There's
36:42
Speaker 1: gonna mean moments where you absolutely love yourself, and you're
36:45
Speaker 1: gonna have days where you're kind of guessing yourself and
36:48
Speaker 1: who you are as a person. But no matter what
36:52
Speaker 1: those days bring, it's always an everlasting work in progress.
36:57
Speaker 1: And I think that's what love is truely all about.
36:59
Speaker 2: It.
36:59
Speaker 1: It's ebb and flow, it's child's and tribulations, it's peaking valleys,
37:05
Speaker 1: is even sometimes stagnant too, But at the end of
37:08
Speaker 1: the day, it's a forever work in progress. And I
37:11
Speaker 1: think that's what a lot of people should always, you know,
37:14
Speaker 1: know about love every single day, no matter what. See,
37:18
Speaker 1: we're not in an open mic stage. I will have
37:19
Speaker 1: like drums and all that in the background right.
37:22
Speaker 2: Now, right absolutely, Okay. What mindset believes can change someone's life?
37:30
Speaker 1: What mindset believe that I can? Hmmm, I think I mean,
37:37
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound cliche, but it's absolutely true. You
37:40
Speaker 1: have to be your number one fan, yes, or anybody
37:44
Speaker 1: before you search out for anybody else to support you.
37:47
Speaker 1: Of its friends, family, somebody that you're dating, total strangers,
37:52
Speaker 1: this person is industry, that person in that industry, whatever
37:56
Speaker 1: the case may be. You have to be your number
37:58
Speaker 1: one fan because if you're not, then really nobody else
38:02
Speaker 1: is going to believe nor invest in you. And I
38:05
Speaker 1: think a lot of people who are searching for that
38:09
Speaker 1: validation from other people, they haven't sat down and validated
38:13
Speaker 1: themselves first. They haven't got down and given them self
38:17
Speaker 1: that self respect first. So before you go out and
38:21
Speaker 1: search for that and other people and other groups, you
38:23
Speaker 1: have to make sure that's within you. So to me,
38:26
Speaker 1: being your number one fan first, being your number one
38:29
Speaker 1: supporter first is absolutely key in life, not just as
38:33
Speaker 1: a creator but just life as a whole. You have
38:36
Speaker 1: your number one fan first before anybody else can.
38:40
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I totally agree, all right, So last
38:43
Speaker 2: question in the mind drop segment, make sure you're make
38:47
Speaker 2: it a good one because.
38:50
Speaker 1: No pressure when.
38:52
Speaker 2: Life challenges you and love stretches you, what mindset keeps
38:58
Speaker 2: you grounded?
39:02
Speaker 1: I think the mindset of me thinking that if life
39:09
Speaker 1: challenges me in life and love stretches me, what I
39:13
Speaker 1: think about it is this is this is part of
39:16
Speaker 1: the journey. This is a season. This is only a
39:19
Speaker 1: season of many other seasons that you're gonna go through.
39:23
Speaker 1: It's just a season. So I never want to think
39:26
Speaker 1: that this is a forever thing if I'm going through,
39:29
Speaker 1: like you know, some trials and tribulations, or think that
39:32
Speaker 1: oh I'm curised or something's wrong, and be like, no
39:35
Speaker 1: to me. The the ones who are fully confident in themselves,
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Speaker 1: the ones who are talented, the ones who are gifted,
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Speaker 1: are gonna go through the rough spots in life. But
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Speaker 1: remember it's only for a season, and it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a season of many seasons you're gonna go through in life.
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Speaker 1: So just buckle buckle, buckle down, you know, put on
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Speaker 1: the put on the blue, get the work, and by
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Speaker 1: the time you get through this season, you're gonna look
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Speaker 1: back and go, yeah, I went through that for a reason.
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Speaker 1: And the reason is now I'm better at this, or
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Speaker 1: I'm better at that, or my mindset is where it's
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Speaker 1: at right now, all because I had to go through
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Speaker 1: that season to get to where I'm going to get
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Speaker 1: to where I'm at in life. So to me, that's
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Speaker 1: my mindset is it's just a season. It's not a
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Speaker 1: for everything.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you guys had the mic drop moment with Andrew
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Speaker 2: Carroll today. Thank you for coming to kick it with me.
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Speaker 2: It has been an amazing, amazing, amazing. You look in
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Speaker 2: my top five for sure.
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Speaker 1: Sure, come on, I stopped it. Really, I'm so flattered.
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Speaker 2: I am so serious when when I tell people that
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Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, no, seriously, not even joking. You
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Speaker 2: are in my top five But thank you for coming
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Speaker 2: to kick with me today. And I want to thank
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Speaker 2: It with Kiki, Life, love, and mindset. Always remember that
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