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TMP326 ALEX MALLET BUCKLES UP · Troubled Men Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker A: Foreign.
• 0:15
  Speaker B: Listeners, welcome back to the Troubled Men podcast. I am Renee Coleman, sitting once again in Snake and Jake's Christmas Club Lounge. Yes, in the heart of the Clempire with my co host, the original troubled man for troubled times and one time future mayor of New Orleans, Mr. Manny Chevrolet.
• 0:35
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 0:36
  Speaker B: Welcome, Manny.
• 0:36
  Speaker C: Hey, man, what's happening with you?
• 0:38
  Speaker B: Oh, not too much. So we had the, we had the, the election. The people have spoken.
• 0:44
  Speaker C: Yes.
• 0:45
  Speaker B: And now the people must suffer.
• 0:46
  Speaker C: Yes. Because they voted for the same. Well, voted for the same and they're going to get the same.
• 0:52
  Speaker B: Okay, well, hopefully it'll be different than it was the past eight years.
• 0:55
  Speaker C: Not with a Hispanic woman.
• 0:57
  Speaker B: It's. I, I have, I have high hopes for her, I think.
• 1:00
  Speaker C: Did you vote for her?
• 1:01
  Speaker B: I voted for you, of course. But.
• 1:03
  Speaker C: But Hispanic women are hot blooded.
• 1:06
  Speaker B: Yeah. The blood is hot.
• 1:07
  Speaker C: Yeah. And all you got to do is just poke them one way you're going to get. That's all you got to do.
• 1:15
  Speaker B: Hopefully everybody treats her with kid gloves.
• 1:17
  Speaker C: Well, you know, just like I told Latoya, I told, I told Helena the same thing I told Latoya eight years ago. I said, congratulation being the first and last black woman mayor.
• 1:29
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 1:30
  Speaker C: Well, that's what I told Helena. Congratulations. Being the first and last female Hispanic mayor.
• 1:36
  Speaker B: All right, you know, well, we'll see. Time will tell.
• 1:38
  Speaker C: But because, you know, we're a society of notoriously unhappy people. You know, lonely, anxious, depressed, destructive, dependent people who are glad we have kill time we were trying so hard to save. You know. I don't know. Right. I don't know what that mean.
• 1:59
  Speaker B: I just came up with that over there. Okay. Got a whole word salad. That's good. You could run for President of the United States with that kind of, that kind of rhetoric.
• 2:08
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 2:09
  Speaker B: Well, I say if we couldn't elect Manny Chevrolet, I think Helena Moreno is a good second choice.
• 2:16
  Speaker C: Well, we'll see.
• 2:17
  Speaker B: We shall see.
• 2:18
  Speaker C: We shall see. Because it's always in the middle of that first term they start getting their, getting their beaks wet. And then they, that second term comes around. That's where they go crooked. Right.
• 2:30
  Speaker B: You know, hopefully she's, hopefully she's gonna keep her nose clean.
• 2:34
  Speaker C: Hopefully people won't start making pinatas in the shape of her head.
• 2:38
  Speaker B: Oh, no, her hair. That'd be no good.
• 2:41
  Speaker C: You know, let's, let's wait.
• 2:43
  Speaker B: Let's give her a fair shake anyway before we start.
• 2:45
  Speaker C: Well, I'm not because. Did you. Her first meeting this time was with Moriel, ex mayor. More did say that first meeting is like, really? You're cozying up to morale already? Yeah, that's not a good sign.
• 2:56
  Speaker B: It was not. It didn't really do anything for my confidence either.
• 3:00
  Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
• 3:01
  Speaker B: You know, maybe.
• 3:02
  Speaker C: Well, we'll see what happens. You know, I think. Is she married?
• 3:07
  Speaker B: She is married, I believe.
• 3:08
  Speaker C: Oh, really? Yes, really. Not what I heard.
• 3:11
  Speaker B: Well, because I was.
• 3:12
  Speaker C: I heard things.
• 3:13
  Speaker B: I. I saw. I saw a. A photo of her with her, you know, getting out of a car, and I guess she. A security detail with her already. And I said to my wife, who's in the newspaper, I was like, well, geez, I. I wonder how long it will be before Elena starts her security. Oh, and my wife said, no, she's married. I said, well, latoya was married, too.
• 3:34
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 3:35
  Speaker B: She said, yeah, but her husband was sick. And I say, was he. I don't know. I mean, I know he. Yeah, he passed away.
• 3:40
  Speaker C: Got sick all of a sudden. Yeah.
• 3:41
  Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not sure he was sick before.
• 3:43
  Speaker C: And we don't. Still don't know what he died.
• 3:45
  Speaker B: We don't know. I never got to see the autopsy reports, but.
• 3:48
  Speaker C: And I don't know who her. Moreno's husb. He seems. I don't know. I've never seen a picture of him.
• 3:53
  Speaker B: Yeah, she seems to keep. Keep it. Keep it tight.
• 3:57
  Speaker C: Because he's a porn star. Probably.
• 3:59
  Speaker B: I don't know. We'll have to. Have to keep an eye out as more of these official ceremonies show up, you know? So, the inauguration.
• 4:08
  Speaker C: I didn't call her to say congratulations on election. I did not. I did not call her.
• 4:13
  Speaker B: Is that sour grapes on your part, man?
• 4:16
  Speaker C: Oh, definitely.
• 4:17
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 4:18
  Speaker C: Definitely sour grapes. You know, I've been doing this too long. Yeah. And people keep voting for the same. And you know what? They're gonna get the same. So when I off New Orleans. All right, you know, you can do what you want.
• 4:31
  Speaker B: You won't have Manny Chevrolet to kick around anymore.
• 4:34
  Speaker C: You know, unless in four years, my friends talk me into it again.
• 4:39
  Speaker B: It could happen.
• 4:39
  Speaker C: It could happen.
• 4:40
  Speaker B: Could happen.
• 4:40
  Speaker C: But I'll be 82 and four years. I don't want to do that.
• 4:44
  Speaker B: Your friends have talked you in the. Into worse ideas.
• 4:47
  Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
• 4:49
  Speaker B: Taking back to la.
• 4:50
  Speaker C: Yeah. Carlo neutral.
• 4:53
  Speaker B: Yeah. Or even New Orleans.
• 4:54
  Speaker C: Yeah, that.
• 4:56
  Speaker B: Oh, no, come on, let's. Let's not start dragging.
• 4:59
  Speaker C: You know, Carlo Nuccio, did you know?
• 5:01
  Speaker A: I've heard of him.
• 5:02
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, you never let him money, did you? You didn't let him have any money. Good.
• 5:07
  Speaker A: Never had the honor Good.
• 5:08
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, it's. He left us early. Perhaps that was. Was going to be in your future.
• 5:14
  Speaker C: But maybe that was his whole plan to not pay back people he owed to leave early.
• 5:19
  Speaker B: Well, yeah, I always say he won. Oh.
• 5:22
  Speaker C: So.
• 5:22
  Speaker B: No, no, no, we love Carlo. He's your good friend.
• 5:25
  Speaker C: Yeah, I love Jock itch, too.
• 5:26
  Speaker B: Sure. Well, no, no, we. We miss Carlo. Miss. Miss him dearly.
• 5:30
  Speaker C: I miss him like jock itch.
• 5:32
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 5:33
  Speaker C: Yeah. What's going on with you, man?
• 5:35
  Speaker B: Well, played a few jobs this weekend. Some. Some previous guests of ours. Bill Davis from dash, RIP Rock, some other people. Rick Olivier from Creole String Beans. We all played the Abita Fall Fest together over there in Ibita. But that was a lovely day. You know, the weather's getting a little cooler. You can feel a cooling breeze coming up here at night now. But in long standing New Orleans news, did you see long time New Orleans jail escapee Derrick Groves was captured?
• 6:10
  Speaker C: Yeah, finally. Now, I won the bet, though. He was. It was the over, right? It was the over, under of three and a half months and I won.
• 6:19
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, no, that was. He was. He was out there for a long.
• 6:22
  Speaker C: Time, but I heard conflicting stories on how he got captured.
• 6:26
  Speaker B: Really?
• 6:26
  Speaker C: What did you hear from. You know, I work at the university and I work with a lot of service workers there who are all minorities. And one guy I know, I've known for a while said that the reason he got caught is. Was. Is that he was watching the Saints game and that was their. They won the game. And they. The neighbor kept hearing, who, dad? Who that gonna beat them?
• 6:54
  Speaker B: Oh, really?
• 6:55
  Speaker C: And the neighbor was. And this was in Atlanta, right?
• 6:58
  Speaker B: Right.
• 6:58
  Speaker C: So the neighbor was like, what the fuck's that about? So he called the cops by 1-800-number-1 of those crime hotlines, right.
• 7:08
  Speaker B: And Crime Stoppers. Yeah.
• 7:09
  Speaker C: And said, this guy's not from here. He might be that escapee.
• 7:14
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 7:15
  Speaker C: You know.
• 7:15
  Speaker B: Yeah. They have all kind of ways to catch it nowadays.
• 7:18
  Speaker C: Another guy told me that it was his girlfriend who gave him up. Finally just said, you know, you've been here five months. Get off your ass. Get a job or something. You know, stop freeloading.
• 7:29
  Speaker B: I. Oh, she collected what, $50,000 maybe. Okay.
• 7:33
  Speaker C: Yeah. And did you see when the footage. When he was going into the squad car, he was blowing her kisses.
• 7:38
  Speaker B: No, I missed that.
• 7:39
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah. He was like, I love you, baby. All right.
• 7:42
  Speaker B: He's a softy.
• 7:43
  Speaker C: But I didn't understand why he said, yeah, you can extradite me to New Orleans. I'm not Gonna fight it? I didn't fight it.
• 7:51
  Speaker B: He probably missed Miss New Orleans. You know, if you spent some time in Atlanta, you're ready to get the fuck out of there, you know?
• 7:56
  Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, he's not going to spend any time in New Orleans. He's going to spend time in a jail. Well, yeah, but why not go hang out, you know, because he's. He's a dead man. He's going to Angola. He's not even coming to New Orleans. He's going to Angola.
• 8:11
  Speaker B: Right, right, right. Well, he probably has some. Some friends there already. He's. He's used to the system here. It's. You know, a lot of those Angola people, they're like. Once you're in the prison system, you're. Everything gets kind of regular, you know, it's like kind of standardized. And a lot of those guys, even the hardcore guys doing time in Angola don't want to spend the night in Orleans Parish Prison because they got a lot of young kids coming in and out. They're crazy. They can. It's not. It's not, you know, the politics aren't settled. You get stabbed up real easily. Even so, yeah, maybe once he's got his.
• 8:50
  Speaker C: And you know this from experience? Well, I've heard.
• 8:53
  Speaker B: I've read things.
• 8:53
  Speaker C: Okay. Have you ever gone to that rodeo?
• 8:57
  Speaker B: I have not. Have you?
• 8:58
  Speaker C: No.
• 8:59
  Speaker B: Angola Prison.
• 9:00
  Speaker C: I just think it would smell.
• 9:02
  Speaker B: Well, sure you would think.
• 9:05
  Speaker C: Dusty clowns. Yeah, I just think it would smell. Yeah, I don't want to do that.
• 9:10
  Speaker B: Yeah, I've gotten. Somebody gave me a. A picture frame that they bought because they also, the prisoners are able to sell crafts that they make when they have the rodeo. And during the time when I was still smoking Pall Mall cigarettes, which I smoked for years, this guy bought me a whole picture frame that was made of Pall Mall cigarette packs that were all woven together, like, all kind of folded together. It's pretty cool. Speaking of crime, there was.
• 9:40
  Speaker C: This show is still on. That's a crime.
• 9:42
  Speaker B: Big news. Big news. And this place is still open.
• 9:45
  Speaker C: Snake attacks. Yeah, that's a crime too.
• 9:48
  Speaker B: Big news in the NFL. You saw Mark Sanchez?
• 9:51
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Stabbed up that old hot blooded Hispanic man. I'm telling you, man, ain't gonna last. Ain't gonna last. He's wandering the streets at 2am and nothing happens. Good at that time, right? And you know, he was drunk.
• 10:07
  Speaker B: Oh, man.
• 10:08
  Speaker C: And he told some guy in an alley, you can't park there. It's like, what the. Is that your business? You can't Park. And the guy was what, he was a cop all of a sudden?
• 10:17
  Speaker B: The guy was working. I think that.
• 10:19
  Speaker C: Yeah, he was working.
• 10:20
  Speaker B: I heard reports that the guy actually.
• 10:21
  Speaker C: Was working the alley.
• 10:22
  Speaker B: Kind of hard of hearing, you know, so maybe he didn't even really understand what. What, What Sanchez was saying to him. But.
• 10:29
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, Indiana is one of those places like Arizona and Florida. Just stay out of that place and, you know. You're not from Indiana, are you?
• 10:37
  Speaker A: No, but I am from Florida. Okay, I get it.
• 10:39
  Speaker C: You get it. That's why you left. Yeah, right. I get you. You're all right. So, yeah, he got stabbed. His career is over.
• 10:48
  Speaker B: Yeah. It's got a fact.
• 10:49
  Speaker C: There was a great joke over the weekend, I think, on snl, saying that his sentence is, he has to go back to the Jets. Oh, yes, he's got to go play for the jets again, you know, but yeah, he, you know, he's from California. I think Sanchez, he went to usc, had a good career there. He had a pretty good NFL career.
• 11:10
  Speaker B: And he had a good career as a. As a. As a commentator. Right.
• 11:14
  Speaker C: I guess. I mean, it's, you know, if you, if you play like at least three to five years in NFL, you're guaranteed a commentator job.
• 11:23
  Speaker B: Huh? Really?
• 11:23
  Speaker C: No matter how bad you are, you know, as long as you're good at talking and, you know, doing the teleprompter, the telestrator, you know, that kind of stuff.
• 11:30
  Speaker B: Not everybody is.
• 11:32
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, there's been some guys who haven't been very good. Like John Madden. He wasn't very good. You know, people loved him, though, huh?
• 11:40
  Speaker B: He was. Did it for years, too.
• 11:41
  Speaker C: Yeah, he was good.
• 11:44
  Speaker B: And he was the coach of your team, too.
• 11:45
  Speaker C: Yeah, he's a better coach than he was a commentator. He just sounded like. I just remember it would be like watching football back in the 90s and be like Madden. And when he did the. The games with Summerall, who was so dry.
• 12:01
  Speaker B: Right.
• 12:02
  Speaker C: And madam go. You see here, they flipped the ball over there and then he went that way and they dropped the ball and boom, that happens. And then summer would go. Tonight on Fox, the Simpsons, Bart gets his first erection. You know, stuff like that. That was entertaining.
• 12:20
  Speaker B: Quite a. Quite a pair. Quite a team. Yeah. Yeah.
• 12:23
  Speaker C: Well, summer all was a. He was drunk half the time on the air. Yeah, that guy was a big alky.
• 12:29
  Speaker B: Yeah, that's what the days when. When you could do that on the air.
• 12:33
  Speaker C: Yeah. Just like Dandy Don Meredith. All right, Dandy Don. And how would co. Sell. Yes, he was A cokehead, Howard.
• 12:42
  Speaker B: You know, I didn't know any of this stuff.
• 12:43
  Speaker C: Yeah, he was. He did a lot of coke. Anyway, I digress.
• 12:47
  Speaker B: Right, right.
• 12:48
  Speaker C: You know, but what else is going on? The election's over.
• 12:51
  Speaker B: Right, right. Well, we're. We had some sad news this week. We lost a great iconic actress, Diane Keaton.
• 12:57
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
• 12:58
  Speaker B: Lovely girl. Starred in so many great films. Annie hall, the guy.
• 13:03
  Speaker C: We should get her on the show.
• 13:04
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I think we missed that window as well.
• 13:06
  Speaker C: I could try anyway.
• 13:07
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Maybe a seance episode. We keep talking about that.
• 13:10
  Speaker C: Well, she believed in angels, in heaven and all that stuff, so, you know, now we don't know what she died of. Yeah, that's the thing.
• 13:18
  Speaker B: She was 79. But, you know, she said her family was around her, so I don't think it was super sudden, you know?
• 13:25
  Speaker C: Well, she never married. She never had kids. She adopted kids.
• 13:30
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 13:31
  Speaker C: She had. You know, she. She banged a lot of big Hollywood stars and stuff like that.
• 13:37
  Speaker B: Kept her figure.
• 13:39
  Speaker C: Well, she. She talked about her bulimia, though. Early in her career, she was bulimic.
• 13:43
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 13:44
  Speaker C: And she hid that for years and years.
• 13:47
  Speaker B: Do what you got to do.
• 13:48
  Speaker C: But, you know, when she's from LA and she went to New York to study and she got a part in the. The original cast of the musical Hair.
• 14:00
  Speaker B: Oh, okay.
• 14:02
  Speaker C: And the producers and director loved her. They thought she was gorgeous, she could sing, she was talented. But she was the one cast member in this whole ensemble who refused to get naked. Oh. Because that was a big thing. They all got naked in some of the numbers and stuff like that. And she refused, demure. And she won out. They said, okay, fine, you don't have to get naked.
• 14:26
  Speaker B: I respect that.
• 14:27
  Speaker C: You know, so, yeah, she. Shout out to her. She was a good person. Yes. And I loved her. Looking for Mr. Goodbar.
• 14:36
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 14:36
  Speaker C: That was one of my favorites.
• 14:38
  Speaker B: That was a good one.
• 14:39
  Speaker C: And I loved her in the. The. That movie. I forget what it was called, but all of a sudden, someone leaves a baby at her doorstep and she has to become a mom. Baby Boom, I think it was called.
• 14:50
  Speaker B: I don't remember that.
• 14:51
  Speaker C: And that was a funny movie.
• 14:52
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 14:53
  Speaker C: Especially the scene where she's trying to. She's learning how to take the baby's temperature, and at that age, you have to put the thermometer up the baby's ass.
• 15:02
  Speaker B: Right, right.
• 15:03
  Speaker C: You know, and it was a fucking hilarious scene.
• 15:05
  Speaker B: All right, so Troubled nation. Check it out. Baby Boom.
• 15:08
  Speaker C: Yeah, I think it was called Baby.
• 15:09
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 15:10
  Speaker C: Diane.
• 15:10
  Speaker B: Diane Keaton. Yeah, yeah, it shouldn't be hard to figure out. Well, we lost another giant of. Of of rock and roll. Not somebody that. That you may be familiar with, but great bass player, Speedy Sparks. Sure, sure. Well, he was, you know, a lot of musicians. He was an Austin guy. Played. Played with Doug Somm, the Circle.
• 15:32
  Speaker C: Was he a cokehead? Is that why they called him Speedy?
• 15:34
  Speaker B: I don't know how he got that nickname. Not that I know of. He was an older guy when I knew him, you know, when I first met him, but didn't. Didn't seem too out of control or anything. Seemed like a pretty wholesome cat, but played with the Texas Tornadoes for years. He was their. Their bass player the whole time that they had that band and had previously been with the Sir Douglas Quintet, you know, Doug Somme's band. And so a real cornerstone of the Austin music scene. So shout out to Speedy Sparks. It'll be sorely missed. Well, you got anything else?
• 16:08
  Speaker C: No.
• 16:08
  Speaker B: Well, the only thing I saw in the news yesterday was some tasting table magazine, which I guess is a food and wine magazine or something, and they released their best dive bar list. One dive bar in every state of the United States. And Snake and Jake's was voted best or are named best dive bar in Louisiana.
• 16:34
  Speaker C: Oh, I believe that. So.
• 16:35
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:36
  Speaker C: I mean, look at these. Look at this.
• 16:37
  Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah.
• 16:38
  Speaker C: I mean, these people are just awful.
• 16:41
  Speaker B: Well, I don't know.
• 16:43
  Speaker A: Wonderfully awful.
• 16:44
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Speaker B: Seem. Seem like they're doing what they should be doing here.
• 16:48
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I. I'm all for that. Sure.
• 16:52
  Speaker B: Sure.
• 16:52
  Speaker C: So you know what the winners like were in New York or California.
• 16:56
  Speaker B: I looked around and to any place that I. That I recognized. None of them caught my eye as some place that I'd been before. But. But I may have been there and not remembered, you know, as many people talk about. I think our guest here was mentioning the last time he was here in Snake and Jake's, it was his 28th birthday and he doesn't remember anything about it except that he was here on his 28th birthday.
• 17:20
  Speaker C: That was just last year, wasn't it?
• 17:22
  Speaker A: It's coming up.
• 17:24
  Speaker B: Well, yeah, he has one every year, as it turns out birthday. Well, maybe we should get a.
• 17:29
  Speaker C: Get introduced him.
• 17:30
  Speaker B: Right, right, right.
• 17:31
  Speaker C: Because he's drinking iced coffee. Is that iced coffee smoothie king. Oh, it's a smoothie smoothie king all right.
• 17:39
  Speaker B: What's the fell. I've. I've been playing with for. For a bunch of years almost since he. Since he first got to. To New Orleans and in several different bands. He's a terrific guitar player, songwriter, singer, as I said, all these different bands. He currently plays with Papa John Grow and he's played with all kind of bands. Darcy Malone, Layla Musselwhite, Adam Pierce, Dave Jordan, Jamie St. Pierre. He and I played Lynn Drury's band for a bunch of years and he has his own band now, Captain Buckles. Kind of a super group of New Orleans A list sidemen. They're releasing their first full length record, Hurry up, that was recorded with the great Justin Toet at Dockside Studio. Terrific engineer and records coming out November 14th. But they've been putting out first couple of singles week by week here they have a couple of them out already, so we're going to get into all that and much more. But without further ado, the great Mr. Alex Malay. Welcome, Alex. All right.
• 18:38
  Speaker C: Hey, man.
• 18:39
  Speaker A: Thank you for having me, guys.
• 18:40
  Speaker C: All right.
• 18:42
  Speaker B: So you are not from New Orleans? No. But you've been here for a while?
• 18:46
  Speaker A: Yeah, I moved here January of 2017.
• 18:49
  Speaker B: Okay, well, how. Where did you come from? Where. Where'd you grow up?
• 18:54
  Speaker A: I was born and raised in South Florida around Fort Lauderdale. Little town called Davie, Florida.
• 18:59
  Speaker B: Okay. Now the, the Florida music scene, when people think about that, you know, it's like think of Tom Petty, some. A few other iconic kind of acts like that was. Was that. Did. Did those acts loom large in, in the.
• 19:17
  Speaker C: What about Mr. International? He loomed large too, right?
• 19:21
  Speaker A: Who is that?
• 19:22
  Speaker C: What's his name? Mr. International. The. I forget his name right now.
• 19:27
  Speaker B: Let's go back further and we'll, we'll work our way up to that. So you're born there in Fort Fort Lauderdale area.
• 19:34
  Speaker C: Pit Bull. That's his name.
• 19:35
  Speaker B: Pit bull. Okay.
• 19:37
  Speaker C: Yeah. Mr. International. He's down from South Florida, isn't right? Yep.
• 19:41
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker C: You like him?
• 19:42
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker C: Cool.
• 19:43
  Speaker A: Sure.
• 19:44
  Speaker C: I never heard his music. I just know his name. Anyway, go ahead.
• 19:48
  Speaker B: He's a snappy dresser. I know that.
• 19:50
  Speaker C: Now, were you. Was music a big thing in your family? Growing up, did your parents play your siblings?
• 19:55
  Speaker A: Not professionally, but my dad used to play professionally when he was younger.
• 19:59
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 19:59
  Speaker A: Out of New York. He's a bassist.
• 20:01
  Speaker C: Oh.
• 20:02
  Speaker A: He had a southern rock band called Sidewinder.
• 20:05
  Speaker C: So when you're 5 years old, what decade is it?
• 20:09
  Speaker A: I was born 1989.
• 20:10
  Speaker C: Okay, so it's the 90s. What's your dad and mom playing around the house? His music?
• 20:16
  Speaker A: A lot of classic rock.
• 20:17
  Speaker C: Yeah, classic rock.
• 20:18
  Speaker A: My mom loved Santana. My dad loved ZZ Top and Zeppelin.
• 20:22
  Speaker C: There you go.
• 20:24
  Speaker B: Well, that's pretty good. I mean, it's a good environment to grow up in.
• 20:27
  Speaker A: Yeah. My dad always had a classical nylon guitar laying around the house, so I would kind of.
• 20:32
  Speaker C: Yeah. Did he have a bong laying around the house too?
• 20:35
  Speaker A: Laying around the closet, tucked behind the shoes.
• 20:39
  Speaker B: Okay. Your parents were, were young enough to where they were already. Like, my parents never hit. Did any of that stuff. Even though they were John Lennon's age, somehow they were more of the, the Nixon generation and the John Lennon sort. But, but so, so your parents were hippies, I guess, musically speaking.
• 21:01
  Speaker A: Yes. Musically speaking, very much, yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker B: Right. Well, I know at one time your dad was a collector and would work on these classic Ampeg basics.
• 21:11
  Speaker A: That's right. Yeah. He loves collecting gear. He's a gear head. He's also a mechanic, works on boats and cars. So he's really handy with going through gear and basically restoring apps looking like they belong in the dumpster. Give him a month, he'll have it look like it's brand new in the store. 1970, you know.
• 21:29
  Speaker B: Now, did he press you into service to, to help him do all this stuff or what?
• 21:33
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I learned a lot from him. Definitely a lot more to learn, but I can get my way through a lot of that kind of stuff these days. Yeah. Right on soldering, taking things apart, you.
• 21:44
  Speaker B: Have that, that same kind of mechanical inclination that he had. Certain people, they can do one thing like that, they can almost do anything. They can take like a central air conditioning system apart and fix it and put it back together, even though they've never done it before.
• 22:00
  Speaker A: Yeah, same, like, same principle kind of stuff.
• 22:02
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's like once you lose the fear of doing it and you, you get the idea that, well, if I work on this long enough, I will figure it out, I will get it to work.
• 22:11
  Speaker A: Problem solving, right?
• 22:12
  Speaker B: Problem solving. Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker B: Well, that's a good lesson to learn from somebody.
• 22:16
  Speaker A: Definitely very grateful for that.
• 22:17
  Speaker B: Yeah. Right on. So are you playing with him, you know, like around the house or like little side project bands as you're.
• 22:26
  Speaker A: Well growing up, he was just drumming, you know, cowboy chord singing, like Neil Young, stuff like that. He started me on bass, so I was using his bass and he would show me some black Sab songs or Ramon stuff like that.
• 22:39
  Speaker C: Cool.
• 22:40
  Speaker A: And then Christmas one Christmas year came after playing his bass, and he gifted me my own bass and guitar to kind of let me decide what I liked better. And I gravitated towards six string electric guitar. Got me going. By 17, I was gigging with, with bands around Florida, but it Was mostly cover band stuff, Kind of like stuff you'll hear on Bourbon street, you know, covers. And not much original stuff happening out there like it is out here.
• 23:09
  Speaker B: Yeah, right, right. Well, so. So you went through elementary, junior high school, and all unremarkable, right?
• 23:18
  Speaker A: Yeah, I was a big skateboarder growing up. Really? That was my passion. I was obsessed with skateboarding every day. A lot of neighbors were skaters, and I kind of grew up around that. My dad would build us ramps. We had, like, a little cul de sac where all the ramps would be set up, and everyone would meet there and we'd skate.
• 23:34
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 23:34
  Speaker A: And then as I started getting more into music, I would injure myself, usually my wrist, and it would start getting in the way, interfering with my music. And then it got to the point where I had to kind of choose one or the other. And then that's when I stopped skateboarding.
• 23:48
  Speaker B: Yeah, skateboarding. It seems like it's just a matter of time before you're going to hurt yourself again.
• 23:53
  Speaker A: Yeah, it was like every other session I'd go out, I'd come back with some major injury.
• 23:57
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker B: You know, I had a skateboard, like when the. The first craze came around, you know, But I. I could never do any tricks. I never really tried. You didn't do any of that, huh, Manny?
• 24:07
  Speaker C: I had a skateboard. Did you? Like, it was a wood board.
• 24:10
  Speaker A: Yeah. A little wooden board.
• 24:11
  Speaker C: Yeah, a little wood board. When I was growing up, the. The famous board was the black knight.
• 24:16
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 24:17
  Speaker C: With. What do they call those? The knobbies. The knobby wheels, what they call them? Yeah, they were kind of like clay wheels. Very hard ball bearings. Yeah, yeah. And stuff.
• 24:28
  Speaker A: Bigger wheels back then.
• 24:30
  Speaker C: Yeah. But my brother was really good at it. I wasn't so great at it. I used to like to ride my bicycle down steep hills with somebody holding on for dear life on their skateboard. And then they would let go.
• 24:45
  Speaker A: There you go.
• 24:46
  Speaker C: I say, see ya.
• 24:47
  Speaker A: You got a safer.
• 24:48
  Speaker C: Safer part. Say, see you later. And they would either crash, you know.
• 24:52
  Speaker B: Kind of like they have the. The guys getting towed into the waves with. With the.
• 24:56
  Speaker C: Right.
• 24:57
  Speaker B: Yeah, whatever those things are.
• 24:59
  Speaker C: Yeah. No, I. I was all right. The skateboard to me, was kind of like the yo yo. I was all right, but not great.
• 25:06
  Speaker A: Could you do an ollie, Get a little air?
• 25:09
  Speaker C: Yeah. Nah, I could never make the yo yo sleep either. That was the thing. That was the big trick. Got to make the yo yo sleep.
• 25:18
  Speaker B: And rock the cradle. Yeah, you got to make. Do all that stuff.
• 25:21
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably Because I was too high.
• 25:25
  Speaker B: Sure. I didn't have the fine muscle coordination anymore. Well, so in your teenage years, you're finding other guys to play with and. And starting little bands?
• 25:35
  Speaker A: Yeah, I had a little neighborhood band with guys my age, but we didn't really gig.
• 25:40
  Speaker B: Just try to impress the girls from the neighborhood.
• 25:43
  Speaker A: Just. Just. Just that I had a little karaoke machine that would record to cassette tapes.
• 25:47
  Speaker B: Oh, okay.
• 25:48
  Speaker A: So we would make, like, little albums, and I'd bring it to school, and we'd all gather around during recess and try to listen and critique it.
• 25:54
  Speaker B: Oh, right on.
• 25:55
  Speaker A: I think I still have some of those saved. We were called Misled Youth.
• 25:59
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 26:00
  Speaker A: Which was named after a skateboard video that was big at the time. Misled Youth from Zero Company Skateboards.
• 26:06
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 26:08
  Speaker A: And it was kind of punk. Punk rock, I guess I would say.
• 26:10
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker C: I'll never forget back in the late 80s, early 90s, down at Venice Beach. Suicidal Tendencies. They were a big skater band.
• 26:21
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker C: You know, they. Everyone and they had this gig on the boardwalk at Venice and they had this ramp, you know, right in front of the stage and they're rocking and there's these. All these tens of thousands kids going up and down doing these tricks on the board. Some of them are crashing, some of them are not. But the music's blaring and it was. It was like, so cool.
• 26:44
  Speaker B: That sounds pretty cool.
• 26:45
  Speaker C: Yeah, it's just like, you know, there's Suicidal tendencies, you know. Mom, give me another Pepsi. Give me another Pepsi. And these guys are going up and down the rafts doing these tricks and are. Some of them are, you know, dying on there and stuff like that. That was a good gig.
• 27:01
  Speaker B: Now, were you guys carving up empty swimming pools out there in Florida? Like, they. A little bit la.
• 27:07
  Speaker A: A little bit, yeah. Mostly skate parks. There were a lot of skate parks.
• 27:10
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker A: Around that time. Early 90s. It was a good time to grow up for skateboarding, for sure. It was like, right as Tony Hawk became big and. Okay, Tony Hawk, pro skater came out.
• 27:20
  Speaker C: And there was actually money to be made if you were good enough.
• 27:22
  Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I was sponsored from some local companies, really. I was doing competition and wasn't really making money yet, but I was getting free gear.
• 27:31
  Speaker C: There you go. Recognition, knee pads, helmets, elbow pads, all the stuff you need.
• 27:39
  Speaker B: So then you start playing professionally in. In Florida. I believe you're in, like, kind of a reggae band there for. For a while.
• 27:46
  Speaker A: Yeah, that was kind of my biggest project in Florida before I left was a reggae band called Rhythmatics.
• 27:52
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 27:52
  Speaker A: The Singer was the bass player also. And he. He lived in Jamaica for six years or so. So he had that patois dialect down really well where when I first heard recordings, I didn't know who I was going to meet. Yeah, I thought I was going to meet a Jamaican man. And he was like, not at all. He was Peruvian.
• 28:09
  Speaker B: Oh, okay.
• 28:10
  Speaker A: And he could speak Spanish and he can just change his voice and his dialect. He's really skilled with that.
• 28:15
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 28:15
  Speaker A: Really good. Singer, songwriter, bass bassist.
• 28:18
  Speaker B: See you guys had success down there and that you're still in Fort Lauderdale.
• 28:22
  Speaker A: Yeah, mostly around Miami at this time. Like, we were playing in Miami, I was still living Fort Lauderdale, but, yeah, we were opening up for big reggae acts. We had a South Beach, Miami, regular gig at this club called Jazzed.
• 28:34
  Speaker B: Oh, cool.
• 28:35
  Speaker A: A lot of big reggae guys would come up there and sit in, or DJ, well known DJs would be upstairs. Place would be filled with weed smoke the entire night.
• 28:43
  Speaker C: Right, right.
• 28:44
  Speaker B: And then I guess that's still when they have a lot of cocaine down there.
• 28:47
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. So I've heard.
• 28:49
  Speaker B: Probably still do. I don't know.
• 28:51
  Speaker A: They do.
• 28:52
  Speaker B: Who knows? Yeah. So how do you wind up getting to New Orleans?
• 28:56
  Speaker A: So that's an interesting story. I was. I was actually hosting an open mic at the time with my band, this place called Cagney's, for five years. And there was this band that kept coming in with this older man who was a retired judge, Miami clerk judge. He was. He's probably about 75 at the time. And he. He would come and sit in and play with his band, do a showcase set. And his guitar player was moving back to Germany, and his girlfriend at the time came up to me and told me that he wants to ask me to join his band. And she kind of whispered in my ear and she's like, you should do it. He's got money. So I was like, all right. I mean, I wasn't a huge fan of what he was doing musically, but he had a lot of personality, a lot of character, and he was really driven and, you know, passionate about it.
• 29:46
  Speaker B: But he was in the band. He was. He was the front man.
• 29:49
  Speaker A: He was a frontman singer and would write a lot of songs, too, for that band. So I ended up joining that band. And he was born in New Orleans as a baby, but moved and never returned. So he had this fascination with New Orleans and always wanted to come back to check it out. So within a year, we put a tour together to come here, and he fell in love with it right away. And he kind of joked like, yeah, I'm going to move us out here, guys. I'm going to move us out here. We're like, all right, Rick. All right. Okay. Crazy old man. Then he set up a second tour, and the second tour he actually started looking at places and he told us his budget and we looked around and we found a place in the Irish Channel that was. Was over the budget, but he just fell in love with it. He said, we have to live here. So we actually made it happen. And within six months after that tour, we, we made the move and we all moved out.
• 30:39
  Speaker B: So. So you was everybody else your age? Yeah, 75 year old.
• 30:43
  Speaker A: Rick was 75, I was 27, the drummer was 25 and the bassist was 21.
• 30:48
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 30:48
  Speaker A: So it was a wild group and we were called Fresh Air.
• 30:52
  Speaker B: Fresh Air.
• 30:53
  Speaker C: Yeah. And when was this?
• 30:54
  Speaker A: This is 2017.
• 30:56
  Speaker C: Oh, so not too long ago.
• 30:57
  Speaker A: Not too long ago.
• 30:58
  Speaker C: Is he still alive?
• 30:59
  Speaker A: He just passed a couple months ago.
• 31:01
  Speaker B: I'm sorry. Yeah, but did he stay in New Orleans for a while? Did that band?
• 31:05
  Speaker A: No. So within six months the band kind of fell apart. We all stayed friends, but it just didn't really work out for several reasons. And I was the only one that stayed in New Orleans and everybody else left and went back.
• 31:17
  Speaker C: What happened to his girlfriend?
• 31:19
  Speaker A: Oh, they fell apart. He had many girlfriends.
• 31:22
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 31:23
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker C: He said he was a judge.
• 31:25
  Speaker A: He was a judge and a lawyer his whole life. And when he got out of that, he wanted to get into music and that's kind of what he always loved and wish he would have done. So he got into that.
• 31:35
  Speaker B: Right, second childhood?
• 31:38
  Speaker A: Yeah, sort of.
• 31:39
  Speaker B: Well, so why did you stay and everybody else left?
• 31:44
  Speaker A: Well, I started picking up some gigs and by the time everybody else left, I was already a member of two bands.
• 31:50
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 31:51
  Speaker A: I was in Jamie St. Pierre's band, who was working regularly on Frenchman street, and Carolyn Broussard and her band Revival at the time. So I was making money and I didn't really have anything keeping me back in Florida other than family, you know, it's something I wish I would have left earlier than when I did.
• 32:08
  Speaker B: Oh, okay.
• 32:09
  Speaker A: So now I finally did and I'm getting some, you know, some success and I just wanted to stay and I kind of fell in love with the city, so I stayed.
• 32:15
  Speaker B: It was just you by yourself? You didn't have a girlfriend or anything?
• 32:18
  Speaker A: Yeah, no girlfriend. Yeah, I didn't know anybody out here. I had basically $400 when I moved out here and I just would busk on the street. Me and the bassist who came, we had a little battery powered roll in amp and we would just go out and busk, make whatever money for our meals that night and whatever. That's what we did.
• 32:36
  Speaker B: Like down in the French Quarter somewhere.
• 32:38
  Speaker A: Yeah. Down My Royal and that Rouse's kind of around there, if we were lucky enough to get that spot.
• 32:44
  Speaker B: Okay, well, let's see. That's good experience. I like. That's called paying dues.
• 32:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker A: Right.
• 32:49
  Speaker B: So you fall in with a bunch of singer songwriters pretty early on and they must have been happy to meet you because you're so. Such a capable player, play so many different styles and you know, you're have such an agreeable personality, you know, I mean, not like me and Manny.
• 33:07
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker B: You start getting introduced around. I guess maybe Lynn meets you during this time. She would. Would go do some trio gigs with Jamie St. Pierre.
• 33:16
  Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's how I met her. Through Jamie.
• 33:18
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 33:19
  Speaker A: And a couple guys, like integral guys in the music circle out here kind of left town too, right when I got into town. And I kind of in a way, took over their roles, you know.
• 33:31
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker A: So that really helped out timing wise.
• 33:34
  Speaker B: Nice. Then at some point you cross paths with John Papa Grow.
• 33:38
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 33:39
  Speaker B: Because then you. And I've played in that band a whole bunch and actually been on the road together with that group. And I guess, you know, it's one of those things, people are working their way through their careers and they find a place that's good for a while and then until, you know, something better comes along or for whatever reason, it doesn't work out. So yeah, it's. Everybody moves on amicably, hopefully. And you're able to slip into that gig, which you're still doing to this day.
• 34:08
  Speaker A: Yeah. And that was a funny time. He reached out when I was kind of at a crossroads. It was around 20, 21, fresh out of the pandemic, and I didn't know what was gonna happen, what I was doing. Lizzy and I were together at the time and we. That's my girlfriend. And we didn't know if we were leaving New Orleans and we were thinking of it. And then he kind of called me out of the blue and just introduced himself over the phone and told me what he was thinking. And it couldn't have been at a better time as far as me staying here.
• 34:38
  Speaker B: Oh, nice.
• 34:38
  Speaker A: Because he was kind of the reason why I stayed while we both stayed. Yeah.
• 34:42
  Speaker B: Well, because I remember during lockdown you would go back and play in Florida a lot because Florida was not so locked down as New Orleans was. So maybe that was. You're thinking, oh, well, this may not. Who knows? I mean, at that time, we didn't know what would happen. The future was going to hold, you know, so. All right, well, good for John for keeping you here.
• 35:05
  Speaker A: I don't know if he's aware of that, but if he's listening now, you know.
• 35:08
  Speaker B: Right on, right on. Well, so. So you're now in this band, Captain Buckles.
• 35:14
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 35:14
  Speaker B: And that's a whole bunch of guys that I've. I've known playing in different bands, you know, you got Smitty Su Pop, excellent bass player, came from California. California. And with Phil Breen, who was a former neighbor of mine.
• 35:29
  Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 35:29
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He lived on. On Sycamore street at one time. Now, that's when I didn't realize what a good player he was, because I would just see him and come in and it's like, then I saw him on a gig. He's like, oh, Phil plays. Man, he plays his ass off.
• 35:40
  Speaker A: Yeah, he was with Russell Batiste Band for a long time.
• 35:42
  Speaker B: Yes. And. And then. And re. As of recent times, you have the great Rob Davis, who's a guest on this show before and. And was the Iguana Sound man. Still does sound for us at all the big festivals. But he's another guy. I. I saw him and I knew he had a studio and stuff, and I thought he was just kind of a tinkerer. And then I saw him on a gig and I was like, oh, fuck, he plays a lot of keyboards. He's an excellent drummer. He's an excellent front man, and he knows a million tunes.
• 36:11
  Speaker A: He could do it all. Super musical, dude.
• 36:14
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:16
  Speaker C: So.
• 36:16
  Speaker B: And then you've had a couple of different drummers. You had Dave Clement's nephew Tyler Clements playing drums for a while, and. And I guess now you have Easy Smith playing drums.
• 36:28
  Speaker C: So.
• 36:29
  Speaker A: Yeah, Easy. Easy's great. We love having Easy.
• 36:32
  Speaker B: All these guys have played in a whole bunch of different bands, worked for different band leaders. But now Rob is kind of a band leader himself, you know, But. But I don't know about these. Any of these other guys. It's kind of like. Like what I do like. Or, you know, or just show up on other people's side, man. Yeah, that's what I always wanted to do. You know, my father was a band leader, and I thought, so I know exactly what that is. That's something I don't want to do. You know, I'll, I'll whisper in the leader's ear, I'll give my opinion, but I don't want to have to be the guy.
• 37:07
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. People use the term sideman like it's a bad thing, but I think it's a great thing, you know?
• 37:13
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's.
• 37:14
  Speaker A: Some may say it's the. Better.
• 37:16
  Speaker C: I like Back Door man better.
• 37:19
  Speaker B: You know, those are. Those are related, I would say.
• 37:21
  Speaker C: I've always done that very well.
• 37:23
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker C: In my life.
• 37:25
  Speaker A: I'm not sure what you mean by that.
• 37:27
  Speaker B: Well, be.
• 37:27
  Speaker C: Think about it.
• 37:28
  Speaker B: Be some, some girls. Some girls not the main boyfriend, the one that, that slips in.
• 37:34
  Speaker A: That's right.
• 37:35
  Speaker B: In the spaces.
• 37:37
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker B: Well, in many of the same ways that being a sideman is, is advantageous. Just like that, you know, like you don't have to really shoulder all the, all the responsibility. You don't have to take all the hits.
• 37:48
  Speaker C: You know, you just get the orgasm and leave.
• 37:51
  Speaker B: Dip in and dip out.
• 37:53
  Speaker C: Exactly. Good times, right? Right.
• 37:55
  Speaker B: Speaking of good times, seems like a good time to take a little break.
• 37:58
  Speaker C: Yeah. Hey, listen, we're gonna take a break. The nation what knows what to do. We'll be right back.
• 39:29
  Speaker B: And we're back. Yes, back with Mr. Manny Chevrolet, the loser Manny Chevrolet. Hi, I'm Renee Coleman, back with our guest, Mr. Alex Mallet. Now, Alex, I know you've listened to some of these shows. You're aware of the fact that this is a listener supported operation. And to that end we have Venmo and PayPal links in the show notes of every show as well as the Facebook page. And you know, our devoted wife listeners will support us by cocktails and notebooks and ink pens and please avail yourselves of those, those links. Also we have the. The link there in the show notes for the Patreon page. You can take all the guesswork out of supporting the show. Also the link for the Troublemen podcast T shirt is right there. And you know, it's. You can't start shopping for your Christmas gifts too early, especially if you're getting one of those T shirts. Might take a little bit of time, but it will come. Also follow us on social media, Facebook, Instagram and rate, review and subscribe to the show wherever you're listening to it. Give us five stars. Cost you. Nothing helps us a lot. And let's see, I mentioned a couple of dates have coming up. I'm going to the. Heading out to Maui, Hawaii to play the Maui Jazz and blues Festival on October 23 through 26. Can be slumming it over there and then I have a big show for benefit on the Day of the dead November 1st for benefiting immigration Services Fighting the Power over there at Tipitinas. Be playing with Los Tremolo Kings featuring Margie Perez. And as always, we continue to to play the Iguanas residency on Sunday nights at the Carousel Bar 7 to 10. Back to our guest, Mr. Alex Malay, talking about Captain Buckles, the new band. There was a first EP that came out a year or so ago. Band's only been together for a couple of years. Right.
• 41:31
  Speaker A: This lineup.
• 41:31
  Speaker B: Okay, well, tell us about the band.
• 41:33
  Speaker A: Yeah, so the band. The founding member was Smitty Supab and he started a band maybe 2016. I'm guessing I started subbing with the band around 2017 or 18, shortly after moving to New Orleans. And it's really gone in so many directions. But where we're at right now, it's been about two years with this direction and I would say half of the material is original music that I wrote and a lot of that I wrote. When I first got to New Orleans, when I didn't really know anybody, I didn't have any gigs. So with my free time I was writing music. And a lot of it's just.
• 42:11
  Speaker C: So is it rock and roll? What kind of music?
• 42:14
  Speaker A: It's got elements of rock and roll. It's got a lot of funk going on. It's kind of.
• 42:22
  Speaker C: Because Buckles sounds like funk to me.
• 42:25
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's definitely funk.
• 42:26
  Speaker C: Buckle down with the Funk.
• 42:29
  Speaker A: We have said that before.
• 42:30
  Speaker B: Oh, really?
• 42:31
  Speaker A: Say it again.
• 42:31
  Speaker C: Oh, wow.
• 42:32
  Speaker B: It wouldn't have occurred to me, but okay, well, you, you, you're Buckle up. Buckle up.
• 42:38
  Speaker C: You're ready for the funk.
• 42:39
  Speaker A: That's right.
• 42:40
  Speaker C: So it's rock and funk and country.
• 42:42
  Speaker A: Yeah. Some fusion of. You name it.
• 42:45
  Speaker B: And you're, you're. You. You're someone who's fairly influenced by the Allman Brothers. A lot of your style reminds me a lot of. Of of improvisational southern rock.
• 42:58
  Speaker A: Yeah, I'm a big fan of Jeff Beck too.
• 43:01
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 43:01
  Speaker A: One of my all time favorite albums is Blow by Blow, which I think was like 1974. That came out and it's all instrumental and if you listen to that, that's like my bible of guitar playing right there. I love that stuff. So it's got a lot of that kind of stuff in there.
• 43:19
  Speaker B: You ever go see Jeff Beck live?
• 43:21
  Speaker A: A couple times, yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker B: No girls there, right?
• 43:24
  Speaker A: Oh, I didn't notice. I was focused on no girls at.
• 43:29
  Speaker C: All at his concert. It's Only girlfriends like Rush?
• 43:32
  Speaker B: Well, no, not even maybe one or two girlfriends. No. Yeah, no, they, they can't even drag them there.
• 43:37
  Speaker C: Did you see the movie? I did see this all. I haven't seen it yet.
• 43:42
  Speaker A: It was great.
• 43:43
  Speaker B: It's amusing, I would say. It's, it's, it's. No, this is Spinal Tap. It can't, you never could meet the, the, the splash that the first one made. It was, it would be impossible. But it's, it's a cute movie.
• 43:55
  Speaker A: It was very cute.
• 43:56
  Speaker B: Yes, it was enjoyable.
• 43:57
  Speaker A: They did a good job.
• 43:58
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nice to see those guys still, still out there. I love all the, you know, all the Christopher Guest movies are great.
• 44:06
  Speaker A: You know, it's cool that they were in New Orleans for it too. I wasn't really expecting that.
• 44:09
  Speaker B: Right. Yeah. And a lot of, a lot of locals showed up in the film.
• 44:13
  Speaker A: Beth Patterson, right?
• 44:14
  Speaker B: She was Beth Patterson. Little Freddie King.
• 44:16
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
• 44:17
  Speaker C: Hey, I haven't seen it yet.
• 44:18
  Speaker B: Oh, sorry. Don't give it away. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, don't.
• 44:23
  Speaker A: Shh.
• 44:24
  Speaker C: But I do know Harry Shearer is a slob.
• 44:27
  Speaker B: Ah, he's a good guy.
• 44:28
  Speaker C: Yeah, he's a good guy.
• 44:29
  Speaker B: I, I, I, I did a recording one time for the, the, the closing credits of the movie that he did, like a documentary he did on, on, on Katrina. And I was standing there in the studio with him afterwards and I was like, can we take a picture and together? And he goes, oh, sure. And I said, hey, why don't you do that thing where you, you like, make a fist like you and like, look at me like you're man. He goes, what, you're directing me now? Oh, I started laughing.
• 44:56
  Speaker A: How much you paying?
• 44:57
  Speaker B: Yeah. He goes, now you're going to direct me? It's like, oh, do whatever you want.
• 45:01
  Speaker C: No, I remember when I worked for HBO in the 80s, there was some comedy special that he was guest spotting on, and me and the wardrobe girl went out to his apartment in Venice to, you know, can the script and get some fittings. And he had this Venice beach apartment and it was filled with cats and cat piss.
• 45:22
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 45:23
  Speaker B: Really?
• 45:23
  Speaker C: Oh, my God. I mean, I could deal with it, but the wardrobe girl was like, let's get the out of here. I mean, it stunk.
• 45:32
  Speaker B: Might have been a low point for him.
• 45:34
  Speaker C: I don't know. He just come off Spinal Tap and stuff like that.
• 45:37
  Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you know, who knows what's what, what people's personal lives.
• 45:41
  Speaker C: Yeah, he's a good guy.
• 45:42
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very Very talented.
• 45:43
  Speaker C: Very talented guy.
• 45:45
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It does all those Simpsons voices.
• 45:47
  Speaker C: Yes, he does those. Yes.
• 45:49
  Speaker B: Terrific. Well, back to Captain Buckles.
• 45:52
  Speaker C: Who's the captain?
• 45:54
  Speaker A: I would say Smitty's the captain. I would say I'm the co pilot.
• 45:57
  Speaker C: From California, right?
• 45:59
  Speaker A: Yeah. Originally, kind of around la.
• 46:01
  Speaker C: Oh, okay. And what.
• 46:02
  Speaker A: Basically talk about that, though.
• 46:04
  Speaker C: Oh, he does. Because they didn't like him in la.
• 46:07
  Speaker B: I don't know.
• 46:08
  Speaker C: What bands did he have in la? He won't tell you.
• 46:10
  Speaker A: I don't think he was playing music out there. He actually lived in China for a number of years and he was playing music out there.
• 46:16
  Speaker C: So he's a POW prisoner of war in China.
• 46:20
  Speaker B: Papillon situation.
• 46:21
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker B: Misty past, you know.
• 46:24
  Speaker A: There you go.
• 46:26
  Speaker B: I hear you. So this, the lineup kind of solidifies over the years though, huh?
• 46:31
  Speaker A: Yeah, especially when Tyler joined. Tyler Clements.
• 46:33
  Speaker B: Right.
• 46:34
  Speaker A: He really understood what we were trying to do and he was really helpful in getting us there.
• 46:39
  Speaker B: He's a great player.
• 46:40
  Speaker A: He is great musician.
• 46:41
  Speaker B: He's also a nut.
• 46:42
  Speaker C: Huh?
• 46:42
  Speaker A: He. That's kind of what you need.
• 46:44
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 46:44
  Speaker A: To get to that level.
• 46:45
  Speaker C: Clemens must be.
• 46:48
  Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's right, he's. He's right in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But excellent player. As is his. His brother Austin.
• 46:54
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker A: And he kind of took a sabbatical. So during that time we were just starting to roll, get some things going. So we, we ended up getting Eazy, who was like the perfect fit. And we were worried because some of the songs, it's really involved and there's a lot going on. You really got to know what you're doing and be familiar and easy. Picked it up so quickly, like the first show. It felt like we've been playing with him for years, you know.
• 47:16
  Speaker B: Nice, nice. You guys play around town. Where, where, where, where can people see Captain Barkle's playing?
• 47:23
  Speaker A: We play around town. We'll play at Le Bonton. We got a show at BMAX in the Quarter coming up.
• 47:29
  Speaker B: Oh, nice.
• 47:30
  Speaker A: I might as well plug that.
• 47:31
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. On magazine.
• 47:34
  Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, I actually just played there on Friday night when I thought it was with Len Drury and I thought we started at 11 o'. Clock. 11 at 2. I thought, man, that. That's really late for, for Lynn's crowd. Nobody's going to come out to that gig. Well, it was packed with Tulane students and I guess they just show up there on a Friday night and, you know, if it's something they can stand. Yeah, they hang out and they had a great time.
• 48:00
  Speaker A: Yeah, they love it.
• 48:02
  Speaker B: So you. You guys have successful nights there at.
• 48:06
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's all young, same kind of crowd.
• 48:08
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So when do y' all play in there next?
• 48:12
  Speaker A: So we don't have a Lebanton. We're actually going through that today. But we have a album release party. Or I could call it a pre release. The album supposed to release on November 14th, my birthday.
• 48:22
  Speaker B: Oh, happy birthday.
• 48:24
  Speaker A: And then November 9th is the pre release party, which is gonna be. I gotta get the address, but it's somewhere around St. Claude by Bywater. It's. It's like a free store, they call it.
• 48:34
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 48:34
  Speaker A: And he. Smitty, likes to rent it out and turn it into a roller skate party where the. There's like a rink around the stage and we're set up in the middle. 360 stage and everybody's kind of rolling like Suicidal Tendencies. Yeah.
• 48:49
  Speaker B: Okay. It's coming back around.
• 48:50
  Speaker A: A safer version of that.
• 48:52
  Speaker C: Or.
• 48:53
  Speaker B: Or perhaps not.
• 48:54
  Speaker C: Yeah, but it's not roller derby, is it?
• 48:57
  Speaker A: It could be. Maybe if you come.
• 48:59
  Speaker C: No, I don't know. I guarantee you I'm not going to go see your show.
• 49:04
  Speaker A: I'll see you there.
• 49:05
  Speaker C: I'll tell you that right now.
• 49:07
  Speaker B: So. So you have some shows coming up. Well, tell us about going into Dockside. Is that the first time that you'd recorded there?
• 49:13
  Speaker A: That was my first time. What a great place. Wow.
• 49:16
  Speaker B: Amazing, huh?
• 49:17
  Speaker A: Yeah, I loved it. We were there for three days, three nights.
• 49:21
  Speaker B: And you stayed in the. The bedrooms above the studio.
• 49:24
  Speaker A: Half of us were there. Half of us were in the other house.
• 49:27
  Speaker B: Right, right, right.
• 49:28
  Speaker A: At the time it was late January and it was. Was freezing this past winter, you know, when we had that snow blizzard.
• 49:35
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 49:35
  Speaker A: So it was like probably in the 40s. And you've been there. You know, it's not very modernized with insulation and things like that. And the house was just trying so hard to keep up with the heater.
• 49:47
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 49:48
  Speaker A: But it was just at like 55 degrees the whole time where you could almost see your breath, like in the kitchen.
• 49:53
  Speaker B: Oh, wow.
• 49:54
  Speaker A: But it was fun. We were all just wearing our coats.
• 49:56
  Speaker B: And right now, even when you were on the. When you were recording in the studio, was that cold?
• 50:00
  Speaker A: No, it was a little warmer down there, but yeah, it was a cold one.
• 50:05
  Speaker B: Yeah, he had those. The compressors churning away. They're putting off some. Some heat.
• 50:09
  Speaker C: All the.
• 50:10
  Speaker A: All the. Putting my hands around the tubes of the tubes.
• 50:12
  Speaker B: Right, right, right, right. And Justin Toet. What a. What a. Yeah.
• 50:17
  Speaker A: First time meeting him after hearing about him.
• 50:20
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 50:20
  Speaker B: He's great musician, great bass player, but a guy that. And what, what I loved about dockside, every experience I've had, like you, you go and, and you do one take of something or a couple of takes and you say, well, let's go hear what it sounds like on playback. And the sound coming back off the board through the speakers, like, wow, that sounds like. Yeah, music.
• 50:44
  Speaker A: He's so quick where he's like mixing things when you don't even realize. So he's saving time. And when you go and listen, you don't have to worry like, oh, maybe that should be louder or this should be that. He's already got it figured out, right?
• 50:57
  Speaker B: And he's one of those guys, like in the last, I don't know, six, seven, eight years, I started doing this thing where instead of like really trying to go into the bass amp and get my live sound and you know, dial it all in, I'll just go, well, you record here all the time as an engineer. Just give me a, give me a wire, I'll plug it into my bass. You set it how you want it, you know, and invariably. But of course, I'm working with all great engineers. You know, it's. And you walk back in for playback like, I don't have anything to say. It's like, not even necessarily the tone that I would choose, but I love it.
• 51:35
  Speaker A: Right. Yeah, he's that guy. He knows what he's doing and he knows how to get what he wants.
• 51:40
  Speaker C: So there's no shame.
• 51:42
  Speaker B: Yeah, no, no. And it saves me from all the anxiety of what it's like. You just tell me, I'll just, I'll worry about playing.
• 51:51
  Speaker C: What's the difference between the engineer and the producer?
• 51:55
  Speaker B: Well, they can, their, their, their duties overlap and a lot of times like a great engineer will become a producer and he'll still want to engineer for himself. You know, a producer's making a lot of like, creative decisions as well as sonic decisions. You know, if, if you're just the, the, the engineer and you have a heavy handed producer, good friend of mine, Keith Keller, said it's like being a sound valet because it's really not as much fun, you know, Whereas if you have an engineer that just, or a producer that goes, just get us a sound or, you know, like, then it's fun because now you're creatively participating and.
• 52:33
  Speaker A: Yeah, there's different levels.
• 52:34
  Speaker C: So there's times where you don't need a producer.
• 52:37
  Speaker B: Well, you always need someone to make those production decisions. And if you don't have one. You feel it, you know.
• 52:46
  Speaker C: Why doesn't the band make those production decisions?
• 52:48
  Speaker A: Sometimes they will. Like in this case, we were self producing.
• 52:51
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 52:52
  Speaker B: I find it to be challenging no matter who it is, because you can't be in two places at one time. You can't be on the floor playing and behind the glass observing at the same time. You just can't, you know, because you.
• 53:06
  Speaker C: Can hear the playback.
• 53:07
  Speaker B: You can, but it's. It's good to be able to separate those. Those roles.
• 53:12
  Speaker C: Seems like a waste of money.
• 53:14
  Speaker B: No, no, no, it's. It's a good producer is. Is money well spent.
• 53:19
  Speaker A: Yeah. I'm always thrilled when I know there's a producer on it and then vice versa. If there's not, I'm. I'm like concerned, like, who, who's going to do it? You know, do I have to do it?
• 53:28
  Speaker C: We don't have confidence, basically. Well, you don't have. Well, he just said it.
• 53:35
  Speaker B: No, he said it. But, but I mean, like as. Like, I can make those decisions, but what I want to do when I'm playing on a record as a bass player is just play the bass and just worry about what I'm doing and not have to then put. Take myself out of that role and think, okay, now let's, you know, it's. It's good to have assigned roles and. But thankfully, Justin is a very capable producer as well, and he can make a lot of those. He. You can trust his feedback is what I'm saying.
• 54:02
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 54:03
  Speaker A: He won't interject unless it's needed or wanted. You know, he's also that way.
• 54:07
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 54:08
  Speaker A: I feel the same way about Jake Eckert.
• 54:10
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Jake's terrific.
• 54:12
  Speaker A: Great engineer. Won't say a thing until you want it or need it or know it gets to that point where he says. And he says just the right amount, where he doesn't feel like it's over. He's overstepping.
• 54:21
  Speaker B: Right. Like the band, the band is kind of stuck. They don't know what to do. And then, then he'll finally say something. But like you said, just enough to get. Get them unstuck. Yeah, yeah, It's. It's a. It's a. Subtle art is a subtle enterprise.
• 54:34
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 54:36
  Speaker B: So you're staying there and that, that now, you know, the ghost of Bobby Charles haunts Dockside, particularly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, a great writer, recording artist there. And especially that. That last bedroom that's closest to the bathroom.
• 54:53
  Speaker A: That's where I stayed.
• 54:54
  Speaker C: That's.
• 54:55
  Speaker B: That's the Bobby Charles room. Okay.
• 54:58
  Speaker A: Well, I felt some magic.
• 54:59
  Speaker B: Well chosen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice.
• 55:03
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker A: And I got to give a shout out to the Thread Head Foundation.
• 55:05
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 55:06
  Speaker A: For helping us acquire that grant. With, with, with. Without that grant, we definitely would have been doing a low budget home style kind of record, which is fine. But when we got that grant, we immediately figured it out where we wanted to go and this was the right place. So thank you. Thread Head Foundation.
• 55:24
  Speaker B: Right on. Yeah, they do some tremendous work, man. Yeah, they seed a lot of. A lot of great projects. Yeah. Bunch of music lovers, you know.
• 55:32
  Speaker A: That's right.
• 55:32
  Speaker B: It's not, it's not a commercial enterprise for them. It's. It's all a labor of love.
• 55:37
  Speaker A: It's all about the love of music. Yeah.
• 55:39
  Speaker B: Right on. You guys have this record coming out. You've put out a few singles. I listen to the record today. Terrific. I mean, I listened to it again. Terrific, man.
• 55:49
  Speaker A: Thank you.
• 55:50
  Speaker B: Should be really proud of it.
• 55:51
  Speaker A: Yeah, we are very proud.
• 55:53
  Speaker B: And, and so you guys play around town. You also go and play like some road dates, like Key West. You'll go down there?
• 56:01
  Speaker A: Yep. Yeah, we like to go to the Green Parrot and Key West.
• 56:04
  Speaker B: Nice, nice. And you guys, I imagine you're. You're trying to put feelers out to see what other regional touring opportunities there may be.
• 56:15
  Speaker A: Yeah, Florida's always a good starter, especially for me being from there. It's like a nice semi tour, if you want to call it that, just to make your way down, maybe start in Pensacola, end up in Orlando, and then go all the way to Key west and come back up.
• 56:28
  Speaker B: We play the paradise there.
• 56:30
  Speaker A: That's right. Paradise.
• 56:31
  Speaker C: Yep.
• 56:32
  Speaker B: You know, I recently got the second person who started texting me about something, and I'm going, what do you. What is this about? And then they go, oh, sorry, I thought you were Renee from the Paradise.
• 56:43
  Speaker C: Oh, no.
• 56:45
  Speaker B: Because the woman that runs paradise is also is Renee. And I guess people don't just put Renee in their phone thinking, well, there's only going to be one. And they. Then they seem. Then.
• 56:55
  Speaker A: That's funny.
• 56:57
  Speaker B: So anybody that everybody check out the, the. The record and if you're a club owner, reach out to these guys. And I was approached by your. Your publicist, who I think I turned you on to.
• 57:09
  Speaker C: Great.
• 57:09
  Speaker B: Howard Wolfing.
• 57:10
  Speaker A: That's right. Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker B: He's. He has a very storied career. I think Howard just put a book out on. On his, his own career. And he started off writing for like, fanzines in the 70s.
• 57:22
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 57:23
  Speaker B: And then he was in a. I think he was in half Japanese, that band. And he's super interesting guy. I'd like to get him on the podcast at some point, but that's a. That's a good. A good guy to know. Now, you know, we're kind of on the. The wrapping up here on the downslope, but a few other things of note about you. I saw that you've become a model for this. This sunglass company. It's for people that have giant heads. And it never occurred to me that you have a giant head until you said it. And I can see clearly you have a giant head.
• 57:59
  Speaker A: Now that. Now that I say it.
• 58:00
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 58:00
  Speaker A: Look at this thing.
• 58:02
  Speaker B: Well, it's. It's. You have that Viking DNA, you know, like the red beard, the red hair, the giant head. Like my son. My son shares that same genotype, you.
• 58:13
  Speaker A: Know, so what's funny about that is it. It's actually not me in that picture. It just looks exactly like me where even I had the double take. A friend of mine tagged me in it, and it looks just like me, so I thought it would be funny to share it.
• 58:29
  Speaker C: I. I think your head's good for your body. It's a. Well, yeah, yeah, but it's a solid.
• 58:34
  Speaker B: It's a solid noggin, man. You know, you could.
• 58:36
  Speaker A: That's better than a small head, right?
• 58:38
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:39
  Speaker B: Well, you know, like the. The. You know, the. The. The Irish shillelagh, The. The traditional club that. That leprechauns carry.
• 58:48
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 58:48
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's called the shillelagh.
• 58:50
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 58:50
  Speaker B: And if you look up a. Like a definition of a shillelagh, it says, well, you know, what kind of. It describes what it is, you know, and. And what kind of wood it says it needs. The wood needs to be hard enough to crack an Irishman's head.
• 59:05
  Speaker A: There you go.
• 59:06
  Speaker B: So, you know, and a big head can. Can. Can take a shillelagh strike because. Because it spreads it out and spreads out the impact.
• 59:14
  Speaker A: I'll have to use that.
• 59:15
  Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know how you're going to use that.
• 59:18
  Speaker C: Even leprechauns, is what you're saying.
• 59:21
  Speaker B: I can't say they don't exist. I've never seen one. But, you know, some people believe that, you know, it's.
• 59:27
  Speaker C: Have you ever seen a shale?
• 59:30
  Speaker B: I think I've seen a shale. Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker C: I think I dated a girl named Shale.
• 59:35
  Speaker B: Yeah, I know her.
• 59:36
  Speaker C: Yeah, you know, Sweet girl. Yeah, she used to double down, man.
• 59:41
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 59:44
  Speaker C: She wouldn't rock my head, she'd rock the other head.
• 59:47
  Speaker B: You know what I mean?
• 59:48
  Speaker C: All right.
• 59:49
  Speaker A: All right.
• 59:49
  Speaker B: It's getting to be that time of the night.
• 59:50
  Speaker C: Yeah. So that's actually a few shillelies here tonight.
• 59:54
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'll bet.
• 59:55
  Speaker C: I'm looking at some right now.
• 59:57
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 59:58
  Speaker C: You know, this guy should be. He's been knocked by a few shillelies.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker A: This guy here, he's a thicker head.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker C: Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker B: I don't know. Yeah, he's. It's. It's been touch and go with that. That fell all night long.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker C: What do you mean all year long?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker B: Oh, yes. This isn't the first night. So it's not actually you in that photograph?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker A: No.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker B: Okay. Well, you had me fooled, but I.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker A: Even had my own father fooled.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker B: That's hilarious.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker A: You're not the only one.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker B: Well, that's. I love that.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker C: Where can I see this photo?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker A: On my page if you scroll down deep enough.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker B: Facebook.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker A: Facebook page.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker C: Yeah. So what is this brand of sunglasses?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker B: It's called Coastal xl. Oh, Coastal xl.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker C: If you do sunglasses for people with big head.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker A: Yep. They still haven't sent me my check, but one day.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker C: I wouldn't wait.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker B: Don't hold your breath.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker B: Well, so in some other non music related news, congratulations are in order because I understand you and your lovely girlfriend, hopefully wife soon are expecting your first child.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker A: That's right. Thank you. Super excited. Yes.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker B: That's wonderful.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker A: Baby's on the way.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker C: Hopefully it won't have a big head.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker A: Hopefully it will.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker B: It's gonna have a big head for sure.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker C: I don't know. I have never seen his girlfriend so. Well, you don't know.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker B: Well, I mean, I'm sure she's hoping for a small head, but I may. Maybe.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker A: Maybe a medium head.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker A: If we're lucky.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I don't know.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker C: Is it a girl or a boy?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker A: It's gonna be a boy.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker C: It's gonna be a boy.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker A: The real question, is it going to be a basis or a drummer?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker A: You know, family band starts now.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker B: Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's good to start everybody on drums because, you know, you'll never regret somebody developing good time.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it's also the loudest instrument, so.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker C: Thankfully I got him play with his head.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker B: Okay. And your, your lovely girlfriend, Lizzie, she's been in the music business working. She's worked for a long time for Samantha Fish.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker B: Different capacities, selling merch, doing some tour management and stuff.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker A: Yeah. Social media. She just put her notice in.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker A: She's not touring.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker B: Right.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker A: But she's working from home, you know, she's pregnant. Maybe that's it. That might be.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker C: Oh, maybe. All right, I got you. You.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker A: Yeah, she's. She's working from home for. For Samantha and her artists under Samantha's record label.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker B: Oh, nice. That's perfect for a young mother. Until, you know, when you. When you have the baby, it's going to be, you know, all hands on deck, but then that doesn't.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker C: Your life is over as you know it.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker B: That doesn't last forever. Yeah, that's.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker C: No, it does.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker B: Well, I mean, the fun lasts. The. The. All hands on deck doesn't last forever, you know, and as I was telling you before the podcast, it's the most fun thing I've ever done in my life. Now, as much as you love playing music, and I know you're the way I am, your ambition to succeed in the music business is pretty much top of the list, top of the thing. So I'm holding my hand above my head now. I'm gonna say now, when you have a child, so that hand is still there, but there's another hand that's like four or five feet above that, which is your. Your child and your love for your child. That's how it's. It's going in. In comparison. It's. It's going to shift your. Your. Your priorities.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker A: Definitely.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker B: So embrace that.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker A: I welcome it.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker B: Yeah. It's time.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker C: Until they attack you in your sleep.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker B: Sure.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker C: You know. Yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker B: Well, Manny still sleeps with one eye open because.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker C: No, my wife and I sleep in shifts.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker B: Oh, okay.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker C: We sleep in shifts.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker A: One of you holds the shale and the other one.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker C: Exactly, Exactly.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker B: All right, Alex. Well, man, it's been so fun. I'm so. You know, I wanted to get you on the podcast for. For a long time, and I knew that the time would come that would be perfect.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker A: Great timing.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker B: The all liner. Yeah. Really. In so many ways.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker A: Yeah. Thanks for having me. I love listening.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker C: Hey, you got some stickers.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker B: Yes. And we have. We have the. The presentation of the stickers. I know you've gotten them before, but.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker A: Here, I'll take some more.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker B: A couple more. I'll give you two more for your. Your wife and your.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker C: Put it on her pregnant tummy.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker B: Sure.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker A: There you go.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker A: Scan the bell.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker C: It's foreshadowing.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. Well, thank you so much, Alex. And everybody, look for the. The new Captain Buckles record coming out on November 4th 14th. And I'll put the. The links to Alex's Facebook page and the Captain Buckles Facebook page so you'll be able to find all that. And as always on the Troublemen podcast, we like to say what Manny.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker C: We say trouble never ends, but the struggle continues. Good night.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker A: Good night.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker D: Been around the Greyhound state and there's so much desperation in the air and it's everywhere? Cigarettes, broken dreams and people ripping at the seam as they try to make it up to higher ground I ain't got much money, just $20 in a.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker A: Prayer.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker D: I give it all away if it could get me out of here Refus could fall on double time.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker C: Oh.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker D: You might find yourself standing here in line but don't you ever smile? It ain't no use cuz all these people got the bus station blue.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker C: Thinking.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker D: About my destination this ain't no vacation, just hard times everywhere you turn Worn shoes and worn out clothes and liquor bottles on the floor When I got so much time burn Ain't got much money, just $20 and a prayer I give it all away if you could get me outta here? You should fall off just tight.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker C: You.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker D: Might find yourself standing here in line don't you ever smile? They don't use Cuz all these people got the bus in the room all these people got the bus in the.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker C: Blue.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker D: Holy people got the bus station blues.