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Producer Behind CORTIS & KATSEYE Gnarly Remix: Slush Puppy | Delulu with Ryan Lu #309 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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You know, when you're like high school and like you're a
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freshman and you're weird and no one knows you.
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I'm not saying you. I'm saying like in general, but
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like, you know what I mean? No, I'm saying like for you
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right now. Yeah.
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Honestly, I'm going to RIP out this flower and throw this new
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flower in there and just like, make it work.
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The seeds are there and you just like, water it, put it in the
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sun, make it right, Right. And it will find its way.
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It's always the garden. A garden is the best analogy.
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There's seeds there and you've got to put it in the right
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environment to. Grow a perspective for like
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being a producer, working of artists.
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Hello Puppy Lulu's and welcome back to The Lulu with Ryan Liu
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and welcome to our guest you today.
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He is a groundbreaking DJ, artist, songwriter, producer,
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the list goes on and on, but please welcome Slush Puppy.
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Hello. Hi, thank you so much for being
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here. I know.
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We were chopping it up so much before we started filming, and I
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was like, wait, we're doing such good material right now, we just
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need to do it on camera. And this is your first time
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doing this, like a podcast, right?
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Anything. Yeah, I've.
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Definitely the first time. Thank you for being on.
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Here I I get I'm I'm more of the off camera kind of guy.
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I like to spill the lore to myself, but.
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And you're going to grow it here.
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Yeah, it's, I'm glad that we both made it here.
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I know. Oh my gosh, you guys, we so
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slush puppy DJ D last night at Beaches and I was there.
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Yeah. This is why I don't have my
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voice. By the way, We both kind of
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don't have a voice right now. Yeah, we're out madly.
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I got home at like 3:00. You got home at like 4.
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I got home at, like, 4:00 and I, like, fell asleep in, like, I
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had, like, glitter on my face. I love what's crazy.
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I didn't want you or Charlie or anyone to know that I was out
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last night. No way.
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Yeah. I was like, I feel bad because
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like we have this at like super early in the morning, but then I
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see you out and I'm like, oh. I run into you literally.
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I was like with your artist Magdalene.
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And she was like, oh, my friend Sam is DJ ING tonight.
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And then I was like, who's Sam? And then she was like slush
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puppy. I was like, that's my guest
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tomorrow and here we are. So this is Sam.
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Yeah, Sam or Slush. Nobody knows my name.
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It's giving him, that's what. It feels like no one knows.
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My name, I like that. I like it Secret whenever I'm
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just like, want to be like, you know, a little low key.
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My name is Sam. Do you like prefer to be low key
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or like what do you do you like being like the spotlight you
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like being? Spotlight's a crazy word for it.
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Probably. Probably not for like the
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spotlight. You're in a spotlight right now.
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Yeah, no, this is this is the most of hot and it's
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interesting. Yeah, it's cool.
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I live for this. It's, it's different for me.
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I, I think I'm such like a mix of both.
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Like you're going to catch me at a time where I don't want
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anything and I'm so to myself. And then you'll catch me at a
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time where I'm like, I like wanna be a.
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Pop star, you're literally Hannah Montana.
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Yeah, that is Hannah Montana. I am Hannah Montana.
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You're Hannah. Montana, I love that.
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I wanna be Hannah Montana. You're like my idol.
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Ordinary girl, yeah. Ordinary girl, ordinary pop
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star. We're just.
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Talking 100%, yeah. So yeah, I think in the mornings
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I'm a little more off camera, but so this is really, this is
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really something different. So I like this.
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We agreed to do this so early in the morning.
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I also knew I had that thing last night that you were DJ ING
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and I was like telling everyone I was like, I need to be home by
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11. I have a really early shoot.
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I ended up running to like every pop store in LA and with the Sun
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last night and I was just talking to everyone and I was
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like, fuck, we're really out here.
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And then I ran into you there. You go, yeah, that was crazy.
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That is, that was so random. You, I, I, I committed to it.
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I usually will do it like 11 to 12 or something.
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And then I remember when I got there, he's like, oh, could you
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want a DJ like midnight to closing?
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And I was like. Oh yeah, that's crazy.
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Absolutely. And then everyone was expecting
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Hili Rudolph to come out. Which she never came.
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Out it's OK you're. Be fun.
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That's what that the hardest thing is when you're when you're
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performing and everyone's there for somebody or thinking that
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someone else is going to jump on stage and I'm just like.
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All right, guys. Well, now I'm here.
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Let's all dance to I was trying to find her songs.
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I was. Like I mean, it can be hard
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because honestly I was like, I don't even know her discography
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that well. She's an iconic by.
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The way that's what I was saying, I was like, I was like,
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fine, you know? I was trying to like make little
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remixes of old songs. I was like, is this a dumb idea?
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Like how am I going to do this? Like I mean honestly, it's a
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losing battle either way. Like you said, they were
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expecting Hillary. Yeah, yeah, but it was fun.
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You still did it. We were.
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We were. Thursday night, yeah.
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Crazy. And yeah, we got a battery for
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this, but honestly I'm happy we made it.
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You raw dog. This.
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You didn't set an alarm or anything.
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I didn't set an alarm. I really.
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Yeah, yeah, no, I'm a risky that no, that was crazy.
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No alarm. I fell right asleep and I just
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trusted welcome. And glitter the light so.
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Yeah, I know. I wake up.
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I look in the mirror. I was like, I'm just going to go
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and I see myself in the mirror and I was like, God, I need to
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shower. Do I like scrubbed my face?
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I don't know what the heck was on.
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My head. You're still sparkling right
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now. Am I?
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You are your eyes. Yeah.
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Genuinely, I love it. I'm actually going to look.
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Glitter on it would have given pop star hardcore.
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That would have been cool. I mean, I am in my Carrie
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Underwood T-shirt right now, so. You're giving, you love the
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girls. Yeah, you know, You know what's?
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Yeah. I don't know where I even got
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this, but it's like the sleeves are cut.
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Who had this? I thrifted this.
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Who had this before me? Like I need to know.
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It's like a muscle tea, but it's like Carrie Underwood.
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Yeah, and I love your style and aesthetic.
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Like Charlie was talking about it and like, it's super nice and
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defined, you know what I mean? Really.
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Genuinely, I've never heard that before.
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OK, well I talk about visual identity with CC's, my publicist
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all the time, and I love artists with strong visual identities.
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Taylor Felt has a strong visual identity.
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I love yours too. So I think it really defines
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like you're going to see an artist before you hear an
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artist, you know what I mean? That's true, Yeah, 100%.
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It's the whole package. I think like what I see,
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especially with artists I work with and stuff like as a
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producer, it's like people are falling in love, like with the
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whole artist and the whole. Thing and I think a lot of.
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People get really caught up and like, oh, making the best music
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ever in this. It's like, of course, that's the
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biggest part of it. But aside from that, it's like
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lock in with like, yeah, world build and like, just like be
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confident, love who you are and like, have your own kind of, I
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don't know, in my head, I see it as like when I tell artists
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like, build a garden and don't chase butterflies.
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You know which It's like if you chase butterflies, you're going
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to just try to like do this and try to cater to everyone.
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If you kid everyone, you kid to know, you're just going to be
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like, just like reaching for the stars.
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But like, just build your, build your garden.
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The butterflies will come to you.
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You. Know what's interesting about
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that? I was listening to a lot of your
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music, getting ready for the show.
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I listen to your other artist projects as well that you
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produce. And I was telling myself I was
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like, damn, my musics way too cutesy.
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It's really like soft. It's like it's not experimental
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enough. It's not loud enough.
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It's not because like, Oh my gosh, the productions are so
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crazy. And then I was like listening
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back to my music on the way here too.
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And I was like, you know, it's just really me though.
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So I don't think I should change that or not try to.
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Go. No exactly.
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I think like there's artists for everything.
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I think for me, I was just always drawn to like really loud
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sounds and like really blown out kind of like clipped music.
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I was so into that growing up. So like that's just kind of my
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take on like pop music because like when I got more into like
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the pop scene producing for people, like I just kind of did
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what I liked and I was a lot more like probably like
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alternative leaning and stuff. Totally kind of just carried
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over a little bit and like made a sound, but I don't know.
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I mean, like there's there's things like that, like the
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clean, some of the cleaner stuff or like the more like define pop
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stuff. Like I'm not, I maybe not be as
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good at that stuff and I like there's like people forever.
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You added like a lot of edge to it though.
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Like before we started shooting this, we're playing our demos
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for each other. And I was like, this shit's so
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fucking good. This is crazy, right?
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Should I put this out? I was like, why didn't, why
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didn't you put this out? What favorite question is when
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someone shows you time, should I put this out?
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Put this out? Yeah, yeah.
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I have a lot of stuff. I think that's like the, that's
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like the curse of like being so into music and producing your
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whole life. It's like you will just make
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music forever. And everyone else.
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He was like, put it out, put it out.
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And then like, yeah, why is it more complicated than that?
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Yeah, I guess I should just put it out like.
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I mean, honestly, it's easy to get in your head, especially as
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the artist and you're making the music and you're so attached to
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it. And also you're working on a
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bunch of different projects too. Oh.
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My God, yeah, yeah. I think having my hands full
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with so many different projects and artists and like aesthetics
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and worlds and sounds and like, and then more things that are
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just like, like there's, you know, in in the game in LA,
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you're always like pitching songs to artists and like just
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working with writers and then you're working with artists and
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then you're working with like every day you're making
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something different and like to have to like chameleon into
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every session is so I don't think it's made for people that
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make music, but like we do it anyways.
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You kind of have to, so it's. Weird.
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So then it just. Yeah.
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And then how do you like lean into your own project?
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That's the thing I think the hardest part is like, I mean, to
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be super honest, like I was doing OK.
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I was doing my artist project in high school.
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I had like different SoundCloud pages and like different things
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and I was always producing for other people at the same time.
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And like I was super into it and, and any chance I got to
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release music for myself, I just did that.
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And a lot of that was to like kind of get myself out there.
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Yeah. And then like now sometimes,
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like when I get really backed up on other people's music, I think
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the last thing I want to do when I, like, leave a session is go
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home and make music for myself. Like I get so drained.
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So 100, it comes in random waves where I'll be like, I'm going to
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lock in and like make a song for myself and release it and like
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get it going. And sometimes it just like hits
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me and I like want to do that. And then sometimes I'm like.
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You're doing all these different projects and you're getting so
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many different cuts. Like like I said, you're a
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really prolific producer and you just had a cut with Cordis.
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Yes. Can tell us about that?
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I was working with that. They're like blowing up.
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Yes, that is a crazy one. Probably over a year ago,
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honestly, maybe maybe even longer.
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I was I met with someone and I was showing demos to like this
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1A and R and they're like, oh, there's this, there's this like
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new boy group that is that that hype is working on.
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But they're like brand. There's there's there's nothing,
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there's no name, no like really anything.
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They just like how they just like how the guys are developing
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and there wasn't even any like demos.
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I don't think I get I I don't think there was like really
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anything, but I was like, I'll do it.
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Like I'll do whatever you're like, fuck it, let's see I'm
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down, I'm down for I'm down for anything.
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I'm down to just like have fun. So I I pull up to the studio and
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they were all there. All the all the kids.
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We just call them kids. All the the guys are there.
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They were, they were all there and they were like young and
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they were all like, like couple of like making beats on their
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laptop and like they made like this like homemade video, like I
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think on their iPhone. It was like a music video that
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was like the sampler of like showing.
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Yeah, me what was going on. Yeah.
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And we just like locked in and I didn't think anything.
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I've, I, I really was just like doing my thing and we made music
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and we, we just started cooking up and we locked in for a lot of
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a good amount of time. Like, like, probably like maybe
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that whole week and then maybe a month later, like a couple more
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times. But yeah, fashion was a song I
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produced, which was probably one of the, the first kind of ones
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that I did with them. Yeah.
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And then like how all music stuff goes, like you don't hear
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from people for like over a year and then all of a sudden like,
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oh, we're we're debuting. We have a name Cordis, and it's
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this is this. And like that project, it just
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like it just appears. And I'm like, OK, now it's out.
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And now everyone talking about it.
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So like it's so it's so interesting.
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Yeah, it's really cool. That was like, I saw it super
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early, like no. Yeah, from the beginning.
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Yeah, from the beginning they were like shooting a documentary
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and that I ended up being in, so you can find me there.
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It was really fun. Yeah.
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So shot a documentary. I'm going to watch that.
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Yeah, I did. I worked on fashion and I did
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their song What You Want, which was actually their first Spotify
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single, which was really cool. That's awesome.
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But yeah, that was a fun. They're they're so good and so
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young, especially at the time too.
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And they were all just like they were so excited and just like in
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it you. Literally saw it just from the
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beginning. Yeah, to.
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Where it is now it it's so interesting.
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Like we were really creating something from like it.
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It genuinely was just like. How special is that it?
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It yeah, it was it was really cool.
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It's a really cool scene and now like unfold.
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I was like wow, like they they have their shit like unlocked,
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like the the K pop, like the systems and like the labels out
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there A. 100% these. Is that intimidating?
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It's like it's K pop, you know? It feels like a bigger Like
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what? So it always feels like a K pop,
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like everything. It just feels so like, yeah, it
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feels like, I don't know, it feels like a government.
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Like it feels like it's like so big.
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It's so big and it's so like. There's a music industry and
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there's K. Pop, that's what it feels like,
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yeah, especially out here, like doing stuff.
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It's just the workflow is different the way artists work,
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like the way it is in rooms and and and making songs and stuff.
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But I would say working with them was the IT felt like the
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least K pop thing I've done in K pop because like, yeah, they
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were all super a part of the writing process in like
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producing on their own, like tracks like you.
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Said they were making beats when you they.
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Literally were yeah, so that's crazy.
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Martin is like one of the the main guy that the tall fucking
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kid, right? And he, I showed up, he had his
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laptop and he had all these beats and he was just grinding
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out songs and he had so many tracks ready.
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Like, like, he, he, he literally could, they all could carry the
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whole group. Like they don't need any.
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They honestly don't need anyone. Did you always develop from the
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beats that they showed you? Yeah, like they would, they
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would pull up a beat and like I'd go off of it or something or
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take the tracks or other way around.
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Like we'd, it was really collaborative, incredibly
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collaborative. They go on the mic and do all
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these passes and just like, shout in the mic.
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They'd all go in there and as a group and like, sing the
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choruses together, which is so interesting.
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Yeah, definitely. And I was like, oh, that's cool.
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That's sick because I would expect in Sheep Pop it's like a
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lot of pitching the songs, not getting in the room with the
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artists at all. Yeah.
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And then like. That's usually how it is.
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That's like, I mean, from from my experience, that's almost
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always the case, right? Like literally always the case.
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So this was so unique and I, I think that's what made the group
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so special and unique and do so well is that they really let
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them just like do their thing and just like be in the room and
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just like make music they're excited about.
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And like it's, it really seemed like the ones they like we're
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excited about and loved are the ones that came out, which is so
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cool. That's awesome.
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Very, very collaborative. That's awesome.
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So you've honestly been there for like the start of a lot of
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different artist projects. I know you worked really closely
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with Snow wife and on her project you're actually on Body
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Ology 2 on my body and you're featured on.
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That I am, yes. It's my pop * Oh.
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Absolutely true, Hannah Montana. My yeah, Honestly, Snow.
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Oh my goodness. She is one of the closest people
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in my life. We are so close.
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Like, she's like my best friend and I've known her for so long.
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Did you do wet? Dream.
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You know what's so funny? I Wet Dream is like one of
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pretty much the only songs I did into, but that's crazy.
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That's my favorite snow song. But yeah, which I which I think
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is so funny. That is I tell people that like
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I I I probably like no, I didn't do my dream, but I I love that
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song. That's like my most listened to
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song of hers, and maybe it's because I didn't do it that I
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love it so. How do you feel like because
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you're detached from it? How much do you love the music
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you produce? Like, oh, do you listen to your
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own? Such a crazy question.
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Like, I listen to my shit nonstop.
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I'm like my own biggest fan, you know?
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What's crazy is like it's like a lot of I feel like I like hate
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everything I make, but like I enjoy it a little bit.
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Like I don't know how to say it. I pretty much like it's so
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normal for producers to hate almost everything they do.
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Like literally like because you can always see it through so
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much different. Like when I'm listening to song,
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when I'm listening to snow songs, everything, I'm just like
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the kick or oh, the the the collapse sound or just like
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something that's so not what everyone else is hearing.
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Yeah. And that's just like the
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producer brain. That's like any song I do.
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I'm like, oh, like that could have sounded.
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But honestly, I hear that all the time.
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I try to let go. I I try to let go of that.
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And I'm just like, well, if it's a vibe, you're going.
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To be nippy and like you're the one who's like, dissecting the
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song you're reading it, That's crazy.
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Yeah, so it's interesting, but yeah, snow, we go way back.
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I met her years ago, probably like 2021 or 2022 at some like
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party or something. And then we just became friends
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and we were just really close friends.
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And then I don't know what happened where I I was probably
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just like, she would just like hang out and I'd just be like
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recording, making music. She's like, let me try to sing,
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like let me do something. And we just like, I start
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recording her. And then it turned into we just
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like put together her. We just like, kind of just,
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yeah. It, it really felt like it came
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out of nowhere. Yeah.
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I was like what? Like?
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Because she's such a talented dancer.
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Yeah, she's such a good dancer, and she was always doing that.
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And then I guess in our heads, we're like, oh, like, let's make
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music. And then You Can Dance to it.
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And like, it was really simple. You know, it's crazy.
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And that was at a time in my life I had.
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I didn't know that was coming. I really was like, we were just
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having fun. Like me, me and her were just
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having a good time making cool music.
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And then, yeah. So it's fast for my body
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actually, and really quick, yeah.
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Let's do it. Yeah, so let's talk about my
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body. Yeah.
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Yeah. So for my body, we.
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Let's see. Oh God, I'm rambling.
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No tell us about it. So my body is on bodyology 2 and
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such puppy is the featured artist and this is no wives
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song. Yes, yeah, it is Bodyology 2.
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What's funny is that we made body Ology.
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It was like a fun, just like the way we make stuff.
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We just like get in, just like have fun and just like throw
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some shit down and like that becomes the song.
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Like we're not incredibly like sculptive or I guess like
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especially then it's. Like being a disruptor in pop
17:44
music. We literally just like, we just
17:46
like put some stuff together. I think what's really
17:48
interesting is making my body was like a random thing we made
17:53
so long ago, possibly before we made body ology.
18:00
In the first verse of my body is actually like the chorus of body
18:05
ology. So biology, the chorus is like
18:08
in the VIP you can join for free.
18:11
And then the first verse of my body is in the VI and it's the
18:16
verse of that song and then I just like put into a drop.
18:19
And what's crazy is that song specifically that was like my
18:22
our first like passive. It is the song that is out.
18:25
I got my computer stolen in like maybe April of like 2025, Four
18:33
twenty, yeah, 2024, I don't know.
18:35
I got my computer stolen and I remember that was like one of
18:38
the few songs that wasn't backed up and I literally lost that
18:43
entire song. So we dropped the MP3 of the 1st
18:48
about that. I did.
18:49
So that's what it sounds like. So yeah.
18:51
Also with pumps. Oh shit.
18:53
Pumps is like what it is. That's like what we made.
18:57
Yeah. Like we like, I like, send you a
18:59
friend to like. Yeah, you don't.
19:01
Want to go in and try again? You're just like, OK, if I go,
19:02
which is the first bounce. Yeah, OK 'cause we're like, we
19:06
like it. That's we're like, this is cool
19:07
and and then I like to do it. Yeah, it was super easy.
19:09
Even with my body. I was like, there's some magic
19:11
here. There's like a a cool feel to
19:13
it, like the rawness. Like I think that's what I think
19:16
that's what I like in pop music is like.
19:18
I think I was talking about this to you earlier, but I really
19:20
like a lot of people in pop music are like, so it's Polish.
19:24
Yeah, it's polished. They they don't like
19:25
imperfections. But I think for me, like I was
19:27
really, I want to, I think imperfections are perfect in my
19:31
opinion. And I think like having some
19:33
things that are a little just like raw and gritty is like what
19:36
makes it so much more original. And that's just like what I
19:38
resonate with more totally. And like there's a time and
19:41
place like make something as polished as you can.
19:43
But I think the kind of producer I am, I like to have things that
19:45
are super raw. So I was like, OK, let's.
19:47
Drop. Let's drop that paper in this
19:48
table, especially in the 100%. And I think that's something
19:51
like especially in your music and your own music, that's like
19:54
makes it so resonant. It's not exactly this perfect
19:58
Polish, like actual Hannah Montana package, just like your
20:01
music. And that's so sick.
20:03
And I love the productions. Thank you.
20:05
Yeah, I, I really just do my thing.
20:09
Like I, I think a lot of people like, like to like, you know,
20:11
really ask and like, oh, how do you do this or what do you
20:13
produce? I was like, you just do your
20:15
thing. Like whatever you just do, just
20:17
do it. Absolutely.
20:18
You'll find your way. I love that, Yeah.
20:20
What I really love about your productions and your own work
20:22
and the work that you do with other artists is like, it feels
20:24
like disruptive pop and it's still very like, it's not
20:28
polished and perfect like you said, and you don't even want it
20:31
to be. But I think your other project
20:33
that you're working on, Magdalene Hershit, is so
20:36
bombastic and robust, and DJ Jesus is such a smash.
20:40
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's so fucking good.
20:42
How did that come about? How did you eat her?
20:44
She is so cool. She's like, I don't know if
20:48
she's made me less cool of a person just because she's so
20:50
cool or more cool because I like with each other.
20:53
I like she's got this like aura on her own.
20:55
She literally like gives me clothes like I trust anything
20:58
she. That is literally.
20:59
She's just like a cool person. She's and I think that's why I
21:01
like, I was like. Very chill.
21:02
She's so chill. She's so nice, yeah.
21:05
I love nice people, you know what I mean?
21:06
100% love Nice. Like actually genuinely lovely.
21:09
Yeah. I don't tell people I love them.
21:11
And then I was, I met her yesterday and I was like, I love
21:14
you. And I never tell people that
21:15
like I. She has that and it's like,
21:17
she's so, yeah, she's just so nice.
21:19
She's so cool. And she's so talented, too,
21:21
like. A vision area.
21:22
Really, really strong artist. I met her in a session, a random
21:28
blind session, which like is such a classic thing.
21:32
I did a lot when I first moved to LA.
21:34
And then I think I've done like less of it in the past year, but
21:37
it was like last year in like January, probably about exactly
21:40
a year ago. I don't know how it got set up,
21:43
but I think someone like sent me your profile.
21:45
I was like, do you want to do a session with this girl?
21:47
I was like, sure, why not? Just like suck new, It's new
21:49
year. And the first song we made, and
21:52
the session was just me and her and we made DJ Jesus.
21:54
We made like pretty much the whole song, that is.
21:57
And I was like, love, right? So fun.
22:00
Yeah. Something fun to do it like,
22:03
like, I'm excited to lock in. And then.
22:05
And I told her I was like, let's like, keep going and let's do
22:07
it. And I, we just like locked in
22:11
and worked all the time and started sculpting this projects
22:15
together and yeah. That's so sick.
22:18
I'm excited. It's been so fun.
22:19
We spent the entire year on it. We went to Joshua Tree and did
22:21
like a camp. Got a lot of.
22:23
Music. Yeah, we made some good songs
22:24
there. You've heard like the whole
22:26
album pretty much. I have.
22:28
I didn't know if I should. Do I tell that?
22:30
Yeah, of course. Should I?
22:31
OK, right, right, Charlie. I gave him a sneak peek.
22:36
So Slash Puppy gave me a sneak peek of this album.
22:38
It is so sick. Now that I'm talking about, I'm
22:40
going to talk about it. Talk about.
22:41
It's so cohesive. We played it in the car with
22:43
Charlie and I was like, it runs like a show, like a play and
22:47
like, and I was telling you the intro song too is like it's so
22:50
jazzy and it's. So like, yeah, it's so cool from
22:53
like DJI love that and I I love what I love doing is I love
22:57
turning heads on of turning heads is the right word to say
23:00
you wanted. I love to.
23:01
Be surprised I love people did not know my next move as well as
23:05
I'm pretty sure and I love just like being like oh here I like.
23:08
'Cause I wouldn't have expected that, 'cause I heard DJ Jesus
23:10
first, yeah. And then playing their album
23:12
through, I was like, there are a lot of jazzy elements in this.
23:15
This is like and I feel like that's harder to produce.
23:16
Than pop yeah a lot of theatrics a lot of fun with it and she and
23:20
she has such a unique kind of style and like fashion to her
23:23
where I just think like every part of it like lyrics
23:27
production, the sound, the visual everything is just going
23:30
to be like blah blah like, you know jazz hands absolutely and I
23:35
and I wanted that and I love that and there's so many
23:37
elements and I think one of our favorite references that we
23:40
really like kind of like side eye on was the first panic at
23:43
the disco album. We're like I we're like, I love
23:47
how all the songs go together. It's very theatrical, but
23:49
there's this like there's this big like kind of pop rock sound
23:53
to it. Totally.
23:53
And that's like really alternative and really cool and
23:56
all the songs kind of go together and stuff.
23:57
So we're like, let's just like, I love that.
24:00
And I wanted to showcase work. Yeah, 100%.
24:02
And I wanted to showcase more of my organic production too.
24:06
I think a lot of people like kind of just see whatever is
24:08
like popular of what I do and stuff, which is a lot of pop
24:11
stuff and a lot of like more like electronic hitting stuff,
24:14
right, Which I love and it's so fun, but I don't know.
24:17
I've like grown up playing instruments my entire life and I
24:21
just like wanted a little more organic stuff.
24:23
Yeah. And like just in my there's far.
24:28
On this project too, and I think as the project progress too, it
24:30
keeps getting, it goes harder and then it gets softer.
24:33
It's just it's a really good body.
24:34
It's like a movie, like it feels like 100% feels like a like a
24:38
experience. And I love that I can listen to
24:41
it, like start to finish and be like, yeah.
24:44
Absolutely. You know what I'm telling
24:45
Charlie. I was like, this is an album I
24:47
genuinely will listen to you like.
24:48
I will probably enjoy this album.
24:49
Like deeply like. I love it.
24:51
I'm obsessed. I love that and me too.
24:53
I'm so proud of it and I'm so excited for it.
24:56
You start building. World together yeah like
24:58
genuinely and I want to step into that world like I should
25:00
love and the music video was so. Fucking kind crazy.
25:03
I don't freak out. It's it's, it's, it's so cool.
25:06
I'm so good. I'm gonna post.
25:08
I I want to like post the video on my grid and be like, yeah, I
25:11
didn't do anything to the video. I know part of that, but I'll
25:14
just be like, look, just watch, like watch this, look at this.
25:16
It is so good. It's so cool.
25:18
She's an incredible artist. It's just like, I love shit that
25:21
it's just like. She's gonna come on the show,
25:22
too. Oh, you have to have.
25:24
Her I need to have. Her, she will steal the the
25:27
spotlight. I She's born for the camera.
25:29
Seriously, she's born. For the camera, absolutely
25:31
she's. Porn for the camera.
25:33
DJ Jesus is incredible, like the world that you guys build with
25:35
this album is so sickening. Thank you.
25:38
It is my it is some of my favorite stuff.
25:41
I'm I'm so proud of it. Like I just love it.
25:43
And I really love being like from the beginning of like
25:46
making these worlds like. 100%. Yeah, I think like, back to my
25:51
set of like, build a garden instead of chasing butterflies.
25:53
Like it's so easy to be a producer and a writer and just
25:55
like really strive and, and push for like these big cuts and like
25:59
send songs to the biggest artists and get in with everyone
26:01
and just try as hard as you can to get like a little album cut
26:04
with a huge artist, which like, you can do that, you can have
26:07
your ground. But I, I really believe in like,
26:08
just like, just like people that you mesh well with and create
26:13
well with. Like you will make the most,
26:16
like you'll make the best reflection of yourself and and
26:19
work. But that's.
26:19
Genuinely incredible. Like that's super sick because
26:22
exactly that. I know so many producers who are
26:24
just chasing to get like a giant cut and stuff and it's just like
26:27
that's that's cool, that's fine. It's like work absolutely.
26:30
At the same time, like I'm working on my debut project and
26:32
I'm like, I just want to make the best thing that I can do.
26:35
And I just want to like, I'm not chasing the head.
26:36
I'm not trying to do it. Yeah, like whatever's true to
26:39
me. It always it always finds its
26:42
way. I I always see artists like have
26:44
their little moment, whether it's like they have like this
26:47
kind of shot in the dark hit or like this random thing and and
26:50
then they get kind of lost and they're confusing.
26:52
It's this and and they all and whenever I see it like really
26:55
connect is they always go back to their roots, whatever that
26:57
is, whatever is natural they're. Always on their journey with
27:00
that. Exactly whatever is naturally
27:01
like the most of them like once they lock into that and connects
27:05
it just like you just and it's. Beautiful.
27:06
I think people can like recognize that authenticity now
27:08
too. Oh.
27:09
Absolutely, and they can see through it when it's not more
27:12
important. Yeah, definitely.
27:14
Well, you're working on your own music now too.
27:15
You're going back to your own artist project.
27:17
Let's talk about. That I am always in and out of
27:20
that like it's cool. I'm independent.
27:22
I can kind of just like do whatever I want.
27:24
That's awesome. I do I'll like if people I'll,
27:27
I'll collaborate. I'll put out my own songs if I
27:29
have something cool and it's yeah, anytime I like find time
27:33
to do that. I I love doing my stuff and I,
27:35
I, I DJI play out a lot. I yeah, prolific.
27:39
Whatever. Prolific.
27:41
There you go, my new word already forgot what it means.
27:44
Do it. Everywhere you're doing it,
27:46
Yeah. Wait, can I tell you something?
27:48
You were so fucking talented. You're so young.
27:50
Like I'm actually shut because I always tell people like I think
27:53
the best producers are in their 30s.
27:55
I. Agree.
27:56
No, but. You're so I was also trying to
27:58
imagine him in his 30s because you're 24, right?
28:01
I'm 24. 24 You're so you're like a prodigy.
28:03
What? Thank you.
28:05
That's crazy. I don't.
28:06
Have to say that, but I look thank you.
28:08
I, I feel like, you know, what's funny is a lot of people like a
28:12
lot of like the biggest producers, like they're, they're
28:15
in their 30s. Honestly, like I feel like they
28:17
have such their moments then 100% and in my head I'm like,
28:21
OK, like I feel like this whole era of like my 20s, early 20s,
28:25
mid 20s, late 20s, it's going to be like all this is like, yes,
28:29
some things will connect and I'll have like some, you know,
28:32
hopefully some, some good great successes and make some great
28:34
music. But all this, I am learning so
28:37
much. I'm literally learning all of
28:41
this to then enter the next phase of my life.
28:44
Like later that's going to be in like 10 plus years and wherever
28:46
music's at at that point. Like I'm gonna have so much
28:48
experience from this world, like.
28:50
Imagine how good it's going to be.
28:51
Yeah. Then.
28:52
And it's so good now, Yeah. And it's crazy.
28:54
I think that's like the most valuable.
28:58
That's the most valuable thing. Like in in every person is their
29:01
experience and like what they've learned and like being lucky to
29:04
like, be in so many incredible rooms and with artists and
29:09
labels and writers and producers.
29:10
Like at a young age, Like I came out here, you know, I was 1819,
29:14
like doing all these sessions and stuff.
29:16
And, and I think from what I learned then is why I'm doing
29:19
what I do now. And what I'm doing now is going
29:21
to be whatever comes later for me, honestly.
29:24
Yeah. You're.
29:24
Originally from San Diego, yes. So then you decided you knew you
29:27
wanted to come out to LA so you can like.
29:29
Yeah, I just drove up like it's the easiest job.
29:33
I know a lot of a lot of people are like, oh, like, wow, you
29:35
just came to. I was like, yeah, I just got in
29:37
the car, drove like an hour and a half hours and up here, I love
29:41
San Diego represent There we go. It is like my place.
29:45
You know what's crazy? I was actually born in New York,
29:47
OK, And I lived there for like a a a decent ish time of like my
29:52
young childhood. I don't tell people that.
29:54
I had no idea. Yeah, because anytime you tell
29:57
someone you're from, they get so into it, you know?
29:59
Oh really? Because like New Yorkers are so
30:00
like, yeah, what are you talking about?
30:02
Yeah, Yeah. So I just make it easier.
30:05
Yeah. From San Diego.
30:06
That is easy. Yeah.
30:08
OK, wait. We're learning a lot then.
30:09
Yeah, no, this is lore. I love the lore.
30:11
Big lore, big spill in here. Let's get into the horror lore.
30:15
So let's talk about your single whore love.
30:17
What's going on in horror? So horror, such such a title
30:21
that is so just like. A really powerful drawing.
30:24
Title I just wanted. To do that you know you though.
30:26
Yeah, you know why? I actually really wanted to put
30:29
out a song called Horror. I wanted to do it before someone
30:34
else does it in like a classier way.
30:37
Does that make sense? Yeah.
30:38
Absolutely. Which like maybe there's songs
30:40
out there, there's obviously like, you know, some probably
30:43
like little hyper pop songs out there like Cold Horror, but I
30:46
don't wanna do it before like someone did it.
30:48
And like the word like, I don't know, do you know, I'm saying
30:51
there's sometimes there's things that there's sometimes that I'm
30:54
I was like, I was like, this is such a simple word that everyone
30:56
knows that's like kind of on the edge of like I don't really say
30:59
that word A. Lot yeah, it's like slightly
31:01
jarring, but. It's kind of jarring.
31:02
I was like, I'm just gonna put out a song called.
31:05
Whore. I love that.
31:06
And just like, who cares? Yeah, like, you know, it's the
31:09
hardest thing to promote because because of the.
31:12
Yeah, the word you, it's like the hardest song to promote.
31:15
So I was like, we don't do it. And then?
31:17
That's so matter in camp anyways though I.
31:19
Was just like, why not? Yeah, whatever.
31:20
And like no one's telling me not to.
31:22
You know what? I.
31:22
Mean. Oh yeah, that's really.
31:24
Yeah, no label or anything. Like I, I work all these artists
31:26
and producers, they have these labels and like the whole system
31:29
and they get approved in this and like I'm just like.
31:33
You're just doing it. You want to sign to a label?
31:35
Put it out. I would, I, would I?
31:38
Could I have been my dream label?
31:43
That's so interesting. That's such an interesting
31:45
question. For me, mine's Interscope.
31:48
I don't know any like like I you should do a wall.
31:53
I I. You know what's so crazy?
31:55
I'm independent. I have no idea I'm so down for
31:59
whatever. If it comes my way and it makes
32:02
sense, fuck it. I will sign a deal and be like
32:06
that guy. I'm down.
32:08
I I totally will. I I don't have like AI feel like
32:11
I don't have a I'm not like I'm independent.
32:13
What, anyone touching my shit like you?
32:15
Know people can be really precious about that and.
32:16
Also, I'm not really anti label. I all literally all of my
32:19
artists I'm gonna make. I'm like, oh, I want to put this
32:21
out and then someone else is like, oh, I want this great.
32:23
Take it like I don't care. I could make so much music like
32:26
that is I literally don't. It doesn't.
32:28
I don't get so precious like this is my song and this means
32:31
so much. Oh, I'm so opposite.
32:33
I'm very precious about everything I do like especially.
32:35
Music people are like a lot of people are most most most people
32:38
are like that. For some reason I don't know
32:40
what it is. I started roducing and writing.
32:42
I was probably 10 years old laying with like Logic and FL
32:45
Studio, and I just like, I really think that I don't know,
32:50
like it's a reflection. Even if someone else puts out a
32:52
song that I work on, like that's me.
32:54
That's my work putting out there.
32:55
So like, I look at it that way. Yeah, I don't.
32:57
That's so crazy because like as a songwriter, when I writing for
33:00
the artist and they sing the songs and I hear it, I'm like, I
33:03
don't even recognize I wrote this even though I wrote.
33:05
It's really crazy. It's only like for me, it's like
33:08
I have to have my voice on it if it's going to be my song.
33:10
But I could write for other people, like their stories and
33:12
stuff and I don't really, I'm not connected to it whatsoever.
33:14
So I think that's another thing. It's like it's not my story to
33:16
tell anyways. I'm just playing the part of a
33:19
writer for them, you know? Yeah, I just, I just like, I
33:23
really like, I I'm so not precious.
33:25
I love collaborative stuff. I yeah, I love having a piece of
33:29
me in everyone's music. I don't care.
33:31
Like, I love it. Whoever wants to work, I'll I'll
33:34
like, you know, like I love. You're super open.
33:36
To it. That's cool.
33:37
I feel like people get really precious about it.
33:39
Like we were talking about I think producers specifically to
33:41
get really picky. Oh my.
33:42
God, yeah. It's like, it's just sound.
33:45
I don't know, to me that feels so like pretentious.
33:48
It's very pretentious. Like why are you so industry
33:50
general? I think, yeah, I don't know.
33:52
I think producers could be pretentious.
33:54
Like it's a lot. Every, everything I've done,
33:57
yeah, that is successful or whatever, yeah, literally came
34:02
from like the absolute beginning.
34:05
Seriously, that is saying everything I've worked on like
34:09
give or take a couple, obviously, but like all like the
34:12
the big things that I've done even like I did like Nessa
34:16
Barrett's first. Like I worked on Nessa Barrett's
34:20
like first EP and I did her like big song on that one.
34:22
And like I think before that EP, like she was still kind of like
34:25
doing the just TikTok influencer.
34:27
Like it was harder to like she was making that transition of
34:30
being an artist and I was like, oh hell yeah.
34:31
Like I'm. And I got to like work on her
34:33
song, like hope you're miserable until you're dead.
34:35
Look at that is the song. And that song did so well and
34:38
it's so cool. And that was like one of the
34:39
first credits I ever had song right.
34:41
And actually so random. It was crazy.
34:43
And that like changed so much of my life.
34:45
But like, yeah. And then seeing her become an
34:47
artist like from that EP and people loving that song and
34:50
like, I was like, wow, like this is so cool.
34:53
Like this like it's like so legit and and she was always a,
34:57
you know, a legit artist, obviously, but it's just like so
35:00
cool, like helping not develop and obviously with snow and
35:03
stuff like that was really just me.
35:05
We were like me and her were coming up with her name
35:07
together. We were like, yeah, I actually
35:09
came up with the name Snow wife. I would never like say that and
35:11
take the forever of it, but I actually told her I was like,
35:13
you know what a cool name Snow wife, and she's like, fuck it,
35:17
She didn't care. She was like, let's go.
35:18
I love that. And she she loved it.
35:20
And her last name Snow. I don't know if people know
35:21
that. Oh, I don't know that that makes
35:23
sense. Name is Emily.
35:25
Yeah. Oh, see.
35:25
Feeling that. I don't know if that's bad to do
35:28
people know that about Snow Charlie?
35:32
We'll find out. Anyways, I think it's kind of
35:34
funny. Another.
35:35
Thing you had a hand in was the gnarly remix with Cat's Eye.
35:38
I know that was. How did that come about?
35:40
So random, so fun. Because that song is so, like,
35:43
iconic. It's such a big song.
35:44
You know what's crazy is like that that one one I love the the
35:54
like Pink Slip is the guy that produced that song Pink Slip
35:57
with I think Tim Randolph or a couple other God, I don't know.
36:02
I believe you couple couple of those are like friends of mine
36:05
that are the closest like some of my closest collaborators I've
36:08
had since I moved to LA. Yeah, Pinks of the other that
36:11
song produced my song eats spit with me, which was like my like
36:16
viral Internet song when I was like 19.
36:18
I. Was going to 20, I was kind of
36:19
an older one for. You it was an older one, like in
36:21
like the COVID TikTok era, he said.
36:22
I was probably 20 years old. Like the COVID TikTok emo hyper
36:27
pop era, like that song did its thing and like people love that
36:31
and it's still like streams like crazy, which is right.
36:33
But Pink Slip was I made that with him and he produced Gnarly,
36:38
which is really cool. It's so interesting you listen
36:39
to that. Like it has such a similar
36:41
sound. Yeah, he has such his thing and
36:43
he's so talented, shouts him. He's very talented.
36:46
He's so good. He's he's awesome.
36:47
I've learned so much of what I do producing from him.
36:50
Yeah, honestly, he's taught me so much.
36:53
Yeah, they loved him. But what's cool is Gnarly
36:56
obviously came out the real version and like, you know, was
37:01
massive and everyone knew it. And then Laura is a close friend
37:07
of mine. Rhea and Laura, their sisters
37:10
are like such close people of mine, that whole family.
37:13
Like I'm always at her house eating dinner and stuff.
37:16
I just toured with Rhea with. We'll get to that, but I think I
37:22
don't know what happened. I think Laura texted me and
37:24
she's like, I want to make a a gnarly remix like blah, blah.
37:27
Like yeah, it was so quickly like she just like texted me
37:31
that she's like, I want to make like a gnarly room.
37:33
It's like a sick club version, blah, blah.
37:35
Do you want to do it? Like do you want to come over
37:36
to? She's very like, do you want to
37:38
come over tonight or tomorrow? And I was like, fuck it, we're
37:40
doing it right now. We literally I pull up.
37:42
She had all these ideas. Like a lot of that was like
37:44
really much her sauce. Like she was like, what if it's
37:47
like, and we just like did it And I think we literally did it
37:53
in that one night. And then I think she sent it to
37:55
the team and they were like, great, love it.
37:59
Let's let's put it out like this Friday.
38:01
And it came out like that week with that Spice remix.
38:04
And what's so funny is when it came, I had no, I just thought
38:06
that they just made a remix for it when it came out.
38:09
It was on my artist profile. So it's slush Puppy ex, Cat's
38:13
Eye and then Lancy. She got Lancy on it.
38:16
Yeah, she's friends with him. I think he's in like the UK or
38:19
something. Oh yeah, she got him on it.
38:22
He like, sang a verse on it and then yeah, like it came out on
38:25
their page, like with my name on it, which was so.
38:29
Interesting that was going to. Happen No, I actually didn't I I
38:32
didn't like I know it was gonna mean the credits or whatever and
38:35
then we made some videos and just like had fun with it, but I
38:38
didn't think it was like my artist's profile.
38:40
So I was like, oh, I'm so down for that like that's great like
38:43
this is so fun. It's so cool.
38:45
It's so it's so random. It's such a random to me.
38:47
Like a group like that, like such a massive, you know, like K
38:53
pop formed group like that are doing the biggest shit right
38:56
now. Like everyone loves scout side.
38:58
They blew up so fast. Like that came out of nowhere.
39:01
So yeah, that was so cool that I got to have a song like, you
39:04
know, a remix of like their biggest song that's been
39:08
amazing. And even that like opened up the
39:10
door more for like, oh, like DJ and more and people asking me to
39:12
do remix of their songs. And like, I think my artist
39:15
world really flows as it does. Like, I, I, I really try to let
39:19
go of my artist thing and just like, whatever happens really
39:21
happens. And they're like, whoever wants
39:23
to work, I'll work with them or collaborate or perform or do
39:26
this. But yeah, that.
39:28
Was what else is coming up for you for your own artist project?
39:30
I have so many songs I've been putting together and I think
39:34
this year, well, definitely, definitely gonna see a lot more
39:38
of like releasing of my own, so much more performing.
39:41
I would love to go on tour again.
39:43
That was you were just on tour. So I was just on tour.
39:45
How was that with Ria Raj? Yeah, my one of my favorite
39:49
people. She's the coolest person ever.
39:51
How's it opening for her? So much fun.
39:54
What's crazy is that at first she wanted me to I was just
39:58
helping her with her live set. Like I I made a bunch of
40:00
transitions in this and I made outros to songs and we made this
40:04
like heavy metal outro to a like the lot like her like closing
40:09
song, which was so fun. And I actually went on stage and
40:11
like, played guitar for like that part of the show.
40:16
While we're making this, she's like, hey, do you want to just
40:17
open and like DJ and like do a DJ set?
40:20
And I was like, sure, fuck, I'm down.
40:23
I will go. And I get, I get merch made and
40:25
I'm like, I like, I go lean into it completely.
40:27
I like make T-shirts and hats. And I'm like, fuck it.
40:29
We're going on tour in December and we went all on the East
40:32
Coast. It was freezing cold, was
40:34
snowing. Every day.
40:35
Oh my God, it. Was snowing everywhere and I was
40:38
like, I just like was it was like the such a fun way to end
40:42
the year. It was such a good experience
40:44
and it got me so excited. Like damn I I do like
40:47
performing. Yeah.
40:48
This is fun, like this is actually really fun and I I
40:51
really see myself doing. I would love to see myself doing
40:53
that again, whether it's with Rhea Gun or with any other kind
40:57
of artists or DJs like I love performing.
41:00
I think more like festivals this year that.
41:02
Would be so. Raves and like fun stuff like
41:04
that and like just like be out there more.
41:07
I would love to. I would love to be well.
41:09
How often do DJ because you DJ D last night, How often are you?
41:11
Doing that was super fun. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
41:14
I would say at least every like maybe every other weekend, like
41:20
for a couple nights, I will DJ somewhere like a club or
41:24
somewhere a lot of that like I'm either just having fun or it's
41:27
with friends or like things will like be like set up that are
41:30
like really cool, like fun clubs and stuff.
41:32
I'm trying to find like my myself in that world as I'm
41:36
still like kind of releasing music because I released in a
41:38
lot of different like vibes and stuff.
41:40
But I think as I sculpt like a proper like EP or projects,
41:44
which I would love to like, I don't know, I could say like
41:47
maybe I'd love to aim for like summer to put out some kind of
41:49
project and then just like play out everywhere and like that
41:52
would be really fun. Like I I would love doing that.
41:54
I'd also love, I do love DJ and more than like, like performing
41:59
and singing and I like to be like, I really like to just like
42:02
curate the experience for the night, you know?
42:04
Cuz I, I produce for a bunch of different artists and it's all
42:06
gonna be different worlds. And I like to, like, remix some
42:08
of those songs and just, like, have my take on it and stuff and
42:11
like, yeah, yeah. What is Slush Puppies World?
42:15
So like putting together like an EP like you said, yeah, maybe
42:17
your own body of work because like, you know, with Magdalene
42:21
and Snow Wife and the projects that you've been working on,
42:24
like they're so defined, the song direction so clear, the
42:27
visual identities there. Like what are you imagining for
42:29
yourself? You know, that's that is the
42:32
$1,000,000 question to be honest because I love to lot whenever
42:36
I'm with other artists I can really lock in and like world
42:39
build with the music. I fucking love World.
42:41
I'm so I'm so with that when it comes to myself.
42:44
Yeah, I love everything. I love 50s, sixties, 70s,
42:47
eighties, 90s, early 2000s, every genre.
42:49
I literally love so much music where it mad.
42:52
I was like, oh, what is me? But honestly, what I've learned,
42:54
it's like whatever, I just sit down and create like that's me.
42:58
Like that's it's cool, you know? So 100%, I think we're gonna, I
43:02
think we're gonna watch that unfold and I think it's gonna
43:05
happen more naturally than planned for Slush Puppy.
43:08
That's awesome. Yeah.
43:09
And on if you like, like you said to especially working with
43:11
these artists like with Snow and then with Magdalene, like that
43:15
was organic, you know? Incredibly organic creating it
43:18
just like I think it. The puzzle pieces kind of fit
43:22
together. I think right now I have this
43:24
like a couple pieces of slush puppy and I'm I'm just going to
43:28
keep connecting pieces instead of trying to like just like get
43:31
that one piece and make it perfect.
43:32
Interesting. Like I want to like just kind
43:34
of. Like that's so you too see how
43:35
it is action and like you. Don't I just like trying to be
43:37
Polish. I'll see what happens.
43:38
Like you really don't know. You know, you can plan for a
43:41
whole thing. Like even last night I was like
43:44
DJ and the Hillary McDonough, Hillary Duff thing.
43:47
And I like I go up there. I was like, oh deep, everyone's
43:49
going to freak out at my set. I play this like hard techno,
43:53
fucking crazy remix thing that I made and I I play it and
43:56
everyone's just like dead and I'm like.
43:58
Well, fuck me. I was like, damn, I just planned
44:01
a lot of this. So I was like, great, let's do
44:03
something complete. So like I, I think just like I
44:05
go with the flow. Whatever is going to happen,
44:07
happens especially. In the live.
44:08
Audience yeah I think I have like an idea of the next single
44:11
for myself but like oh shit I I think there's like a few
44:15
different options and. It's going to be you played me
44:17
before this. We're so kind, Oh my God.
44:19
Great, so fucking kind, Oh my God.
44:21
And very surprising, like I was talking to another artist and he
44:27
was like listening to my project and he was like, you know,
44:30
what'd be good is like people get surprised.
44:32
Like you want to have elements in there that like we'll have
44:34
those and be like, oh, that's interesting.
44:35
And when you're playing me your things, I was like, what the
44:37
fuck? What just happened like.
44:40
Yeah, it's crazy. That's how honestly, I I think
44:42
that's my favorite. That's my favorite part of
44:46
music. Like for me I I hate boring
44:49
music. Yeah, I got that.
44:50
I. Genuinely hate it unless it's
44:52
supposed to be that vibe. Does that make sense?
44:55
Yes. Is that terrible to say?
44:56
Like, there's some artists that are meant to be kind of boring.
44:59
Yeah, but it works and I love it because like I'll put on the car
45:02
I'm driving through like the desert or something.
45:05
And it's just like, I don't wanna say boring, but like, you
45:06
know, like simple or. You don't need to be active.
45:09
Exactly, like I don't need it crazy.
45:11
Like if I'm listening to some like guy like playing guitar
45:13
singing, I don't need a crazy drop in a breakdown and like a
45:16
switch. Like I just like a good song.
45:18
You know what I mean? Right.
45:19
So but for me, I think it's like my like ADHD or just like who I
45:23
am as a human being is like I if I'm listening to something after
45:27
like a couple measures, I'm like something new, something new,
45:31
new element switch up. Oh, what if it went here?
45:33
What if this chord change like I just love, I love wowing.
45:37
It's honestly people like, but you like to wow the listener.
45:39
It's like honestly, I just like to keep myself interested, you
45:43
know? Absolutely so.
45:44
You played me like the original, the first balance of DJ Jesus,
45:48
and then I was like my favorite parts of song weren't even at
45:50
it, weren't even in that 1 yet. And then I was like, when it
45:53
gets to the final and then like the vocals and everything.
45:57
So stacking, it keeps getting bigger.
45:59
Yeah, it goes crazy. I love to start a session with
46:02
just like the foundation of the song.
46:03
You can always add so much more to it.
46:06
It's it's I really like to like make the the just the song, just
46:11
the bones a simple be a good this and then I like really take
46:15
it thereafter. Like the song is done 'cause
46:17
like when you're making sometimes when you go too crazy
46:19
and too experimental, like right as you're going, it's just like,
46:22
oh, like everything just like compiles.
46:24
And like, once you have a great song, you can just like add
46:27
moments and add sections and change chords and reharmonize
46:29
things like building. Things out.
46:31
Yeah, I literally almost reharm every chorus that I do.
46:35
Yeah. Oh my gosh, like your process is
46:37
crazy. Like, you know what I mean?
46:38
Like, yeah, it's so unique. Speak to me.
46:40
And like I've working with different producers and hearing
46:42
like how you're doing it. Like it's very unique.
46:45
Thank you. It's very unique and it comes
46:46
out like so you anything that's so special.
46:49
Thank you. I love that.
46:50
You know, what's crazy is I I like wish I can see that through
46:54
someone else's lenses because like it's so hard to to see that
46:56
myself. Like I feel like I just like.
46:58
Do my, I mean, I'm essentially being introduced to you.
47:00
So like everything I'm learning about you, talking to you,
47:02
everything we just did. Like when you play me your
47:03
songs, I was like, this is so much and like, there's a world
47:07
that you already exist in, right?
47:08
Like talking about building this EP, this project, whatever you
47:11
want to do. Yeah, I'm like, it is literally
47:12
there, like. It's so you, yeah, thank you.
47:15
That that honestly helps. I think when people tell me that
47:18
I'm like, yeah, OK, great, that's awesome.
47:20
You know what I mean? Like cool.
47:21
That makes me not like think about it.
47:22
Like I'm just like, I'll just do like.
47:24
I think it's so easy to just like, I think too many questions
47:29
in your head about your artistry and your project like fucks up
47:32
everything. Yeah, totally.
47:33
Just really in your head. About just flow, just do your
47:35
thing. Just.
47:36
See what's up? Maybe you gotta just.
47:37
Jump. You don't learn how to swim on
47:39
the land, you just jump in I. Love it.
47:42
Let it RIP. There you go.
47:43
That's kind. Of how you've been living with
47:45
everything you've been saying this entire.
47:46
A lot of things you've just had, honestly you're.
47:47
Kind of like fuck it, let's do. It, I mean, yeah, no, honestly.
47:50
And I think that's like, I think anything I've had that has been
47:53
like successful literally was like not so strategic.
47:57
It was really just like, wow, we just this came around and we did
48:01
it right. And you go with your gut, trust
48:03
yourself, trust your instincts and like just like do what you
48:06
believe. You know, it's like if you be
48:09
yourself, there were the right fans will connect with you.
48:11
Like the right people will like it, the right fans will like it.
48:14
It's like. I love that.
48:15
Simplest analogy is like, you know, when you're like high
48:18
school and like you're a freshman and you're weird and no
48:21
one knows you. I'm not saying you, I'm saying
48:23
like in general, but like, you know what I mean?
48:26
No, I'm saying like me right now.
48:27
Yeah. Honestly, the same.
48:29
I remember I was like, I was so nervous to like go to high
48:31
school and. And but you know what I did?
48:33
I show up and I had like maybe like my Hot Topic, like My
48:38
Chemical Romance T-shirt or like your.
48:40
Carrie Underwood shirt. Yeah, we've progressed.
48:43
Yeah, we've evolved. I'd show up in like AT shirt of
48:47
my favorite band. Yeah.
48:50
And then whoever compliments my shirt is someone that also likes
48:54
that band. And then we're friends.
48:57
And now that's a good friend of, you know what I mean?
49:00
It's like a, a simple, that's like the most simple thing.
49:02
It's like if you make, if you be your true self and you make
49:06
music that's authentic to you, this whoever's going to just
49:08
like it actually likes it, you know what I mean?
49:11
Versus if I show up and I try to look like everybody else and I
49:13
work and I see other people doing this and I try to be that
49:15
I'm going to become friends with them because I'm trying to.
49:18
You don't enforce anything. You can't like, you have to just
49:20
be yourself and like, I love fuck 'cause he's gonna fight
49:22
with you like. Yeah, absolutely.
49:24
That's, I think like a lot of artists overthink their project,
49:26
their work and stuff. And like exactly we said, when
49:27
you take your head out of it, you just do the work, you put
49:29
make the music, you see what feels right.
49:31
That's when it's the best and people hear it too.
49:34
Oh, that was imperceptible, people.
49:36
Hear it. I could definitely hear that.
49:37
Like when, when artists like feel more manufactured or like,
49:40
there's a lot more going on there rather than like, I want
49:42
to hear the artist. I want to hear their.
49:44
Thoughts I want to hear. Absolutely.
49:44
I love when people just do their thing.
49:47
It always is better than everyone else's, you know what I
49:50
mean? I agree.
49:51
Like it's so. Yeah, it doesn't.
49:53
Yeah. Like a lot of people love to try
49:55
'cause you know people will, other producers will meet a
49:57
producer like me that is so much more like blown out and like my
50:00
things are so like just like loud and honestly in my head,
50:03
it's just like, it's like a shittier sound, but like, it's
50:06
like kind of like my aesthetic and like the vibe that I produce
50:09
in. And they'll be like, I really
50:10
want to try to do this. I was like, honestly, you kill
50:12
what you do, like you crush it. Like do what you do and like you
50:15
add elements. And I'll always like, I love
50:17
learning from other producers. I always learn different tricks
50:20
and things and I'll teach, I'll fucking.
50:22
I give everyone my sample packs and.
50:25
That's so nice. Serum patches that I make like
50:27
no, you don't need a gate cube. It doesn't.
50:29
I hate you can people people love to learn and and and
50:32
incorporate that into their thing, you know, but yeah, like
50:35
once you can kind of like just like learn the vibes.
50:39
I don't know, I'm kind of contradicting everything I'm
50:40
saying a little bit, but. Not at all.
50:41
Does that make sense? Like, I don't know.
50:43
I think like be collaborative, have fun, but like do what you
50:48
think, build off of things, like do things in your you could
50:50
always. I really love.
50:52
Yeah, I like collaborative, like producing and like writing with
50:57
people. You just like, you know, best
50:59
idea wins. You just like, keep pushing.
51:01
Like I think some of you go by yourself.
51:02
Like the ceiling is whatever you are.
51:04
Yeah, if you have more people, I think that ceiling can go up.
51:07
Something that I've like, I'm cuz I'm working on my project
51:09
right now. Like what I've learned is like I
51:11
had such an ego going into it and I was like, very like, I
51:14
don't want to write with people. I don't want to work like blah,
51:16
blah. And then my producer was like
51:18
really encouraging me to like write with other people, like
51:21
get other people in the sessions with me, etcetera.
51:23
And I was like, OK, fine, I'll do it viral.
51:25
And then every single artist I've worked with, every
51:27
songwriter worked with, every producer I've worked with has
51:29
been like, you got to do what's best for the song.
51:31
And I feel like for me it's it took my ego out of it.
51:33
Like, OK, you know what? If someone has a better idea
51:34
than me, then fuck it. Like if it's a better, if it's
51:37
better than mine, fuck it. And then I feel like that's
51:39
what's making the music better. And it's elevating too, because
51:42
like, I don't want to be, I don't want to have that much of
51:44
an ego with it because like, it sucks like.
51:47
Someone else is going to get better.
51:48
Yeah, in this 100%. I think when you're an artist,
51:52
you can have also more of like a who I do hear something for
51:56
myself and I love it that way. I think when like in the
51:59
production world and producing and stuff and writing, like
52:01
there's a lot of like rooms where it's like you're making a
52:03
pitch song and you're working people.
52:04
And like if anyone has an ego in that room, like, what are we
52:08
even doing? Like it's, we're collaborate.
52:10
We're not even, there's not even an artist in the room.
52:12
We're just writing for just like whatever, like writing a song.
52:15
We'll see if anything's good. Yeah.
52:18
Just like you're saying, you know, I love it.
52:20
But yeah, for my stuff, specifically for my artist
52:23
projects, I would love to do sessions with other people.
52:27
I've never really done that in a long time.
52:29
For yourself? Yeah, like other.
52:31
Producers. That could be fun.
52:33
I'm just brainstorming right now.
52:35
I'm totally open for that. Like I would do that.
52:38
My producer, he didn't even produce his own album like he
52:42
had other people produce his album.
52:43
That's kind of crazy. I.
52:45
I like that. Like with Snow wife and
52:47
Magdalene, like finding you and like being so invested in their
52:50
project. That's totally, you know, that's
52:51
like that's what I want. Like, I would love to work with,
52:53
like, like someone who really sees the vision and flashes out,
52:56
you know, builds the world with me.
52:58
It's the same thing that we're talking about.
52:59
It's just like someone that just like talks with you and just
53:02
like likes you. It's that simple and someone
53:05
that can see it with you and just want to build off of you.
53:08
Also, it's also not always about, I think another analogy.
53:14
Here's my analogy. The whole all I'm saying it's
53:18
like, I love, it's like you can a lot of producers like find
53:20
artists like I'm going to RIP out this flower and throw this
53:23
new flower in there and just like make it work.
53:24
It's like you got to just like there's like there's the seeds
53:28
are there and you just like water it, put it in the sun,
53:31
make it right, right. And it will find its way.
53:33
It's always the garden. A garden is the best analogy.
53:36
The garden and the butterflies. Yeah, absolutely.
53:39
You what's there, there's a great, there's, there's some,
53:42
there's seeds there and you've got to put it in the right
53:44
environment to. Grow a perspective for like
53:47
being a producer, working of artists.
53:48
Yeah. So I think a lot of artists,
53:50
like have a clear vision or idea of what they want, but it needs
53:52
to be nurtured and like totally, you know, there needs to be some
53:55
guidance there and like. You find the people that have
53:57
the seeds and have what it is and then you put them in the
54:01
right environment and they are going to blossom.
54:03
Love it and you make them the best music.
54:05
You know, there's, there's certain types of artists that
54:07
they'll be like kids that make like, you know, like country
54:10
folk music or something. And I was like, I was like, I
54:12
personally like, I love that stuff.
54:13
I'm, I'm just like, I'm not the guy.
54:15
I'm not going to like, try to make them anything.
54:17
They're not like people that do their thing.
54:18
I love when they do their thing, anything that I see that when I
54:21
want to collaborate and it makes sense of them, I'm like, Oh yes,
54:23
like, oh, let's do this. I love that.
54:25
Let's make it, let's make it right.
54:26
And that's my goal for I want, I love, I want to make albums with
54:29
people and I want to collaborate.
54:31
I really want to do albums. I'm like.
54:33
I'm so sick of these bodies of work people.
54:34
I'm sick of these singles. Yeah, people don't fuck.
54:36
With bodies of work anymore. And like, that's why for me,
54:38
like I was talking to my team about it and I was like, like,
54:41
so what's the plan? We're going to do singles, we're
54:42
rolling out EPS and I was like, I'm making an album, we're doing
54:45
an album. This is going to be an album.
54:46
This is going to be a world, this is going to be a body work.
54:48
I'm I don't want to go in with the intention.
54:50
I'm like, let's just drop songs and see what it does.
54:52
Like I'm making an album. We're putting out an album.
54:54
That is what we're doing. Because I love albums.
54:56
I love bodies of work. I love like things that are
54:58
cohesive. That's why I love the Magdalene
55:00
project. It's so cohesive and it's such a
55:03
great project and the cohesion, I feel like a lot of modern day
55:07
artists lose that. I feel like it's a lot of albums
55:10
feel like playlists now. Totally.
55:11
And that's why I like they feel like they.
55:12
Throw them together and that's the album 1. 100%.
55:15
Which like that like used to be the thing a little bit like it
55:19
used to not be the thing like way back.
55:21
But then I think with like the Internet TikTok era of music, it
55:25
was just like, let's do a bunch of singles and whatever there's
55:27
together. Here's an album, you know, like
55:29
no one's dropping out. But now it's like back at it.
55:31
People are VPS are cool again. A.
55:33
Lot of the artists that come on the show we're talking about
55:35
like their projects. I'm always like, thank God, that
55:38
is like, you want to make an album.
55:40
Aim for it. Like it.
55:41
It's like it's always the move, Yeah.
55:43
Even if it doesn't like right away, get the same numbers of
55:46
just like one single, like it will stand forever and people
55:49
will find that shit. Like people look back and when
55:51
you have your big moment, people will look back and be like, wow,
55:54
this artistry is amazing. Look, there's an album here or
55:56
three people here. It's just like.
55:58
You want. That's what's.
55:58
Impressive 100% and I'd love to do an album, even a slash,
56:01
probably album 100% dude, that's coming and I know what it is and
56:05
I'm just letting it like I'm. Telling you the things that you.
56:07
Played I'm not in the. Studio.
56:08
I was like what the fuck? Crazy.
56:10
Why didn't you all put these out?
56:11
That is insane. I that's that's good to hear.
56:15
Honestly, I'm I'm in the works of that.
56:16
I'm in the works of that. I think I'm really going to try
56:18
to lock in. I've I have some upcoming like I
56:21
have some trips and just things happening, but once my schedule
56:24
like chills. I mean, I want to take like a
56:26
couple weeks and just lock out and just like do the slush puppy
56:30
project for the year. Oh fuck yeah.
56:31
And just put it. Out also, like underrated.
56:33
You have such a great voice, really.
56:35
I was telling you like, wow, yeah, you're playing me like a
56:38
chorus that you did on the guitar.
56:40
And I was like, you have such a great voice.
56:42
Wow, Oh my God, I think, you know, it's so funny.
56:43
I don't know if people like even I don't sing a lot.
56:46
Like there's some songs you'll find me like singing on, but
56:48
like I've always like avoided singing.
56:51
It's hard, you know, sometimes, like you never know if you're a
56:53
good singer, but. Oh yeah, I know.
56:54
Terrible. No, I'm like, I'm a terrible
56:55
singer. So like, yeah, but but you have
56:58
a great. Voice.
56:58
Thank you very. Much.
56:59
It's so good, like when you're playing that I was like what the
57:02
fuck, dude? Like.
57:03
I think people will hear more of that this year.
57:05
Good. I would love a Slush Puppy
57:07
album. We got to make it happen.
57:11
Yeah. So I want to ask you, I ask all
57:14
my guests that come on the show, what is your most delulu take?
57:17
What is the most delusional thing that you think to be
57:20
anything? What do you have?
57:22
The most switch up question delulu take.
57:24
Delulu, take what you got. Take Oh my God, give me an
57:29
example I don't like I really OK I.
57:32
Think the odds are stacked against me, genuinely.
57:34
I think I have a great team and I have a lot going for me, but I
57:39
think as a queer Asian person, I don't really see myself finding
57:43
mainstream success. But I really am I true Lulu do
57:47
Lulu. I really think I could be the
57:48
biggest pop star in the world. I really do believe that.
57:50
I love that. And I like, I keep telling
57:52
myself like, be realistic, be realistic.
57:53
I'm like, oh, I don't know, like there's not, there's not really
57:56
a lot of artists that look like you have success that I can look
57:59
up to. And I'm like, OK, it'll be me.
58:01
I think I could do it. I think I'm going to make the
58:03
best fucking pop album of all time, Custom Mission, and I
58:07
don't. I don't even think that's
58:07
delulu. I think that's going to happen.
58:09
So that's mine. For me.
58:12
What you got? What a question could be
58:17
anything. Wait, is there like something
58:19
that I'm like like? What do you think's delulu?
58:20
What's a little crazy A. Little crazy.
58:22
A little crazy. There's a part of me, OK, that
58:26
is like, not incredibly unlikely, but it's not likely.
58:31
This is insane, by the way. I'm going to sound crazy.
58:33
There's a part of me, yeah, that at any day could wake up and
58:38
just like. Be done with this.
58:40
Be done with this, be a plumber and like move to like Montana or
58:44
something. What's the 100% like love?
58:47
It's, it's higher than people think for sure, but it's so
58:51
weird to say that out loud. But like, I actually there's a
58:54
part of me that would be so fine.
58:57
All your artists are shaking. Right now.
58:58
I know, right? I know.
58:59
I hate. That I'm shaking.
59:00
Right now I would be you want so crazy, I'll be fine.
59:02
You know what's crazy? I would still make music and
59:03
have a good time, but like it's the it's it probably will not
59:10
happen right anytime soon, but we can't let that happen.
59:12
We can't let that happen. But I think that it's that's my,
59:17
that's my delusional. Just is that delusional?
59:19
That is so. Delulu.
59:21
But it's crazy as I'm closer to doing that than people probably
59:23
would think. Yeah.
59:25
I'm opposite I think. But I love it.
59:27
I love like the mystery like I don't like totally.
59:30
You know what? I.
59:30
Mean. I like being spontaneous.
59:32
I like just doing shit that's just like.
59:34
You're so uncomplicated. I feel like everything you said
59:36
this entire podcast, you're like, let's see what's up.
59:41
You're like, fuck it. And it's been.
59:42
Working out, they caught me out a good day.
59:43
I think sometimes I'll get a little fucking.
59:45
Crazy. Oh shit.
59:46
OK, OK. Maybe that's the Lulu, maybe
59:47
that. We did that.
59:48
We we got into that last night like I'm so.
59:50
Oh yeah, I'm so we had a big night.
59:53
We did. Surprised that we're both here
59:54
right now, honestly. So I.
59:55
Could not I I don't even know how that we made it in, but you
59:59
know, we did it and see this is good.
1:00:01
You're having a good. Time.
1:00:02
That was amazing. Right.
1:00:04
You're having a really great time.
1:00:05
Well, we close out every show by manifesting together.
1:00:10
Do you have anything that you want to speak into existence
1:00:12
here? On to Lulu.
1:00:13
This show makes superstars, by the way, so manifested.
1:00:17
At the right place. You're at the right place.
1:00:20
Manifest. Let's see.
1:00:22
I want to manifest. I want to manifest the such
1:00:24
Puppy album. Me too.
1:00:26
I want to manifest that. I so want to, I don't.
1:00:27
Need to manifest anything else, really.
1:00:29
Success to everyone that I work with.
1:00:31
Yeah, of course. Success to my family and
1:00:36
happiness to people. We want them to be happy.
1:00:38
I want people to be happy from manifest.
1:00:40
And their gardens. Happiness in their gardens.
1:00:42
Build your gardens. Don't chase the butterflies.
1:00:45
Just kill them. Kill the butterflies.
1:00:48
Kill the other ones that eat the What is it the?
1:00:53
Caterpillars, no. Caterpillars are butterflies.
1:00:57
OK, right. Am I wrong?
1:00:59
Let the butterflies do as they. Do whatever.
1:01:02
Great analogy, you know. I love that I live by that
1:01:03
fucking analogy. Prolific Analogies.
1:01:05
Prolific. My new vocabulary for the day
1:01:07
too. There you go.
1:01:08
I love that. Well, anyways, let's see.
1:01:10
Manifest. Yeah, Honestly, slash puppy
1:01:12
album. I manifest.
1:01:13
I'm gonna manifest it. I think I'm manifesting that.
1:01:15
Too. It would be so cool, it'd be so
1:01:16
fun, and I feel like it would like, I want it to be a
1:01:19
reflection of all of me. Absolutely everything that you.
1:01:23
Love into one project? That might be hard, but.
1:01:26
I think, like you said, it's gonna be cohesive.
1:01:28
It's like you have such a distinctive style with
1:01:30
production and like even your own music.
1:01:32
We were talking about it like the music you produce for other
1:01:34
artists and when you work with other artists is so different
1:01:37
than what you put out under your own project.
1:01:39
Like it? Sounds so different it honestly.
1:01:41
Yeah, it is. That's just how it.
1:01:44
I don't know. That's how it goes.
1:01:46
That's how it is for me. Yeah.
1:01:47
I just like to tap into whatever.
1:01:48
I love music, so I'm just like, do whatever I hear.
1:01:51
I'm like, oh, great, I'm going to do my thing with that.
1:01:53
I love, you know. Yeah, that's super inspiring.
1:01:56
Thank you. Honestly, like I've learned so
1:01:58
much from talking to you, like on here on camera.
1:02:00
Then also like, like before we start shooting because like, I'm
1:02:03
getting into all of this and I'm like literally digesting
1:02:06
everything you're saying. You have such a different
1:02:09
perspective than most of the people I've been meeting in the
1:02:11
music industry, different artists and different producers.
1:02:14
Like, it's really refreshing. It actually gives me hope.
1:02:17
Like Oh my God, amazing. Yeah, I'm like, wait, this is
1:02:19
super sick. You're like, such a cool person.
1:02:21
Oh my God. And I feel like it's rare to
1:02:22
find cool people in the music industry.
1:02:23
Like genuinely like, it's hard. Yeah, and.
1:02:27
It's so competitive and people are so cutthroat and people.
1:02:29
Yeah, you know, the advice I would give is just just chill
1:02:32
out and you can just have fun like you think.
1:02:36
No, but I honestly, I I love doing this.
1:02:38
This is so fun. I I never really I've really
1:02:41
never done this. I've never not a lot of people
1:02:42
hear me speak this way or or this personal like this up
1:02:47
close. I'm so grateful you're on.
1:02:48
Let me, let me ask you, how's it for you?
1:02:50
How's being on the show for you? Great.
1:02:54
You're like I just said it. No, the only ask the question
1:03:00
again. How?
1:03:00
How's it been? Because I know you don't do this
1:03:02
often. Is it nice to be?
1:03:04
Able to talk. It is so nice.
1:03:05
It is so nice to let go, you know, it's I'm can't believe I'm
1:03:08
gonna say this. At one point I have forgotten
1:03:10
that there's cameras here filming us.
1:03:11
Wait, did I ask? I literally have just been
1:03:13
chilling talking to you. I know.
1:03:14
And my brain has disappeared and now I know there's cameras.
1:03:17
And now I'm getting a little nervous.
1:03:18
But no weirdness. I forgot.
1:03:20
I forgot that there's been cameras.
1:03:22
I literally we locked in. We locked in.
1:03:24
We were killing it. Yeah, I think it would be good.
1:03:26
I feel like I wanted an extension of like when we were
1:03:28
talking prior to this, I was like, wait, we're really, really
1:03:30
getting into it, like, and everything was so sick.
1:03:33
Yeah, no, I this has been a great experience.
1:03:35
I'm I'm very glad I could like, talk and and like, be real.
1:03:40
It's awesome, like to explore your world because there's not a
1:03:42
lot that I could find about you anyways, right?
1:03:45
So it's like not being able to sit down and directly ask you
1:03:47
and like figure things. Out this is about to be this
1:03:49
might be the one only thing I ever do that is out there that
1:03:52
so if you want to get to know me, that's it holy.
1:03:54
I'll do more. I'll do more you.
1:03:55
Know don't make an exclusive for Dilulu.
1:03:57
No, this is it. This is it.
1:03:58
This is literally so. The one if you want to find out
1:04:01
more, it's only on here. I love that.
1:04:03
Seriously, thank you so much for fucking coming on this is.
1:04:05
Crazy. Thank you so much for having me.
1:04:07
Like thank you for being open to it of.
1:04:08
Course I I this early in the morning after after DJ 4:00 AM
1:04:13
Ranger. Yeah, when everyone's expecting
1:04:15
Hillary dump. No, we pulled through.
1:04:17
We really did it. Oh my gosh, that was I lost my
1:04:20
voice. I really lost my voice when I
1:04:22
was talking to you last night. I was like, I already knew it
1:04:24
was going. Yeah, no, I love it.
1:04:26
I had it. Yeah, I was in the most like,
1:04:29
Miami fit. I was in this like Hawaiian mash
1:04:33
shirt that like my roommate put on me.
1:04:36
He's like, oh, you got to wear this.
1:04:37
This is so good. I was like OK and.
1:04:38
This is what we're wearing. Yeah, yeah, I revealed.
1:04:41
I wear hats all the time, but I just got a haircut and it's like
1:04:46
shorter than it's ever been. And in my head I was like, you
1:04:48
know what? It looks great.
1:04:48
It's a cute hair. I love it.
1:04:50
I was actually looking at your hair the entire time you were
1:04:52
talking and I was like. Wow, 'cause I got your hair.
1:04:54
Really. Oh, I don't know.
1:04:56
Oh yeah, 'cause I dyed it black. Well, we can't talk about that
1:04:59
right now. I've never seen you with other
1:05:02
hairs, so you know what, you're right.
1:05:03
So I'm. Traditionally blonde.
1:05:05
I'm traditionally blonde but we went black.
1:05:10
For you're blonde. I'm.
1:05:12
Blonde, but sometimes I could never see you as blonde really.
1:05:16
But like, I usually have a lot longer hair than I.
1:05:17
Think we're going to see a lot more blonde.
1:05:22
Sorry, sorry. Anyways, we're going to see a
1:05:23
lot more. Blonde hidden, hidden.
1:05:25
I love. Easter egg I love.
1:05:27
The Easter egg. And you know what?
1:05:28
I have no subtleties, so we might.
1:05:30
Might we might. I promise people that there's
1:05:33
probably an album for myself. So now I need to get to work.
1:05:35
And yeah, I'm going to hold you to it.
1:05:36
Yeah, personally and I have requests based on what you have
1:05:39
played me. Oh please.
1:05:40
Yeah, absolutely. Oh my God, all the requests.
1:05:43
This was super fun. Seriously, this is a real time.
1:05:45
I'm happy that we did this. We should.
1:05:46
Maybe we, I'll even, I'd come back in like a year, a year from
1:05:50
today. When the Slash Puppy album is
1:05:51
out. And we'll be like, what's up?
1:05:53
We're back. OK, we're going to hold you to
1:05:55
it. I will be here for the second.
1:05:57
Yeah, the second. Interview the only thing that
1:05:59
you'll do. Yeah.
1:06:00
Nothing else. Yeah.
1:06:01
Just do Lulu. OK.
1:06:02
You love it. Thank you so much.
1:06:04
I'll do it. This was so fun.
1:06:05
Yeah, seriously. I learned a lot from you.
1:06:07
But besties, thank you so much for watching this episode of Do
1:06:11
Lulu. This was your healthy dose of Do
1:06:12
Lulu. So now you can go live.
1:06:13
You're true Lulu slash puppy bestie.
1:06:15
Where can the bestie on us find you?
1:06:18
Instagram is it's actually not slush puppy, it's slush ppy.
1:06:24
So minus the EU it's taken. You know, it's crazy.
1:06:27
I found the person that has the actual at yes, and I can't tell
1:06:31
if it's like a scam or whatever, but they're like asking like so
1:06:35
much money really, and I'll get it.
1:06:37
And in my head I was like, do I just drop up and see what
1:06:39
happens? No, yours is cute.
1:06:40
But I kind of like mine just so slush ppy.
1:06:42
But yeah, but you. Know what?
1:06:43
All of us report that account and then we'll get that.
1:06:45
That is my Instagram and my TikTok slush ppy my Spotify
1:06:50
slash puppy. Yeah, my phone number is not
1:06:54
right now. Give it all the time.
1:06:56
What's your social? My social Social Security.
1:06:58
What is this? Oh, Social Security.
1:07:02
I don't know. OK, that's a great question
1:07:05
mothers made. It's somewhere.
1:07:07
Oh my God. Wow.
1:07:08
No, don't give it to. Us.
1:07:09
Let's do it alone. No, I didn't know.
1:07:10
These the street you grew up on? No, you don't need.
1:07:12
To know any of them? I don't know any of these stuff,
1:07:14
no. It's probably better than you
1:07:15
don't. Yeah, it's probably better.
1:07:16
Security questions. Hey, wait.
1:07:17
I want to guess your Zodiac sign based on everything.
1:07:20
You're really chill. Taurus.
1:07:22
Aquarius. Close to Taurus Aries.
1:07:25
No, Gemini. Gemini, yes, I was out to over
1:07:29
right there, but I'm like I'm like, I think I'm on the cusp.
1:07:32
OK. Of Taurus or Toro, are you, are
1:07:35
you 20? May, sorry, early June, super
1:07:37
early, late May, yeah, late May. You're May 20. 4th Very close to
1:07:41
Taurus. May 24th.
1:07:42
That totally makes. I think I'm like maybe on the.
1:07:44
I think I'm on the yeah. The 22nd.
1:07:46
Well, it depends on the year. Okay, depends.
1:07:48
On the year 21st or 22nd, you're really.
1:07:49
Close on the 24th, so okay, yeah, so I'm fairly close that.
1:07:52
Makes sense Air sign but. Yeah, I think, I think in the
1:07:57
Gemini world, like I see it like I can, I can be really chill and
1:08:01
then I like have fun and like be loud and party and stuff.
1:08:04
That's. What's nice about?
1:08:05
Being a Gemini, what adaptable. Adaptable.
1:08:08
You're an air sign. I actually have this here
1:08:10
because everyone always asked me what I am and for a while I
1:08:12
didn't know. I've always forgot if I was a
1:08:14
Toro or sorry. Fuck me Taurus.
1:08:17
Taurus and a Gemini right? You want so funny about Geminis
1:08:20
that I also see. This is what I noticed is
1:08:22
Geminis. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe this is
1:08:25
just like my experience, but like, it almost seems like
1:08:28
Geminis is the sign that cares the least about Zodiac signs out
1:08:32
of everybody else. Every time I meet all my
1:08:34
friends, I'll have a lot of Gemini friends.
1:08:36
I'm like best friends, Gemini, and it's like it's always like
1:08:40
none of them care about none of them.
1:08:42
No one is such a bad rap too, yeah.
1:08:44
Which like, how do you feel about?
1:08:46
That. I do agree.
1:08:48
I don't I don't think about it. I don't really care.
1:08:50
And in my head I'm like, well, I'm I'm not the one like think
1:08:53
about Zodiac signs like yeah, totally.
1:08:55
I'm not. I don't wanna is it bad if I
1:08:56
don't like believe in it just. Tattoo it on yourself.
1:08:58
No, I literally have it here for the reason I was like, I have it
1:09:01
like on like it. It sounds like I care about it.
1:09:03
I really. Yeah, I yeah, especially living
1:09:05
in Lai was like, I'm just gonna get this.
1:09:06
I don't know when I even got this, but I was like, I was
1:09:09
like, oh, people will like know what I am.
1:09:11
I thought that was like maybe a thing that's the matter.
1:09:13
But yeah, I don't really care that much about Zodiac.
1:09:15
I will never judge someone based off of it, obviously of things
1:09:19
they, you know, obviously like they're, they're born like is
1:09:22
what it is. Right.
1:09:23
Absolutely. I.
1:09:24
Can't control it, Yeah, obviously.
1:09:27
But yeah, Zodiac sign. A very Gemini perspective.
1:09:31
Too Yeah, like I I, I don't know I don't know what the Gemini
1:09:33
perspective is I think a lot of oh, you're Gemini so you're blah
1:09:35
blah blah blah blah and I'm like maybe like what are you like
1:09:39
when. You hear that?
1:09:40
Do you feel you agree with it? I don't like I, I don't really
1:09:45
know, like, I don't care. Like I feel like you are what I
1:09:47
would see a Gemini as like. Yeah, I think maybe I I think
1:09:50
yeah. Like, would you?
1:09:51
Say you're extroverted. Extroverted.
1:09:55
What does that mean? Like, like the opposite of
1:09:57
introverted? Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm prolific.
1:10:01
Oh, prolific. I'm definitely both.
1:10:03
I, I think I I'm very introverted at certain times,
1:10:06
I'm very extroverted at other times.
1:10:08
Oh my God, right. Same Z so so maybe yeah, Gemini.
1:10:11
Same Z I'm a Gemini. Too.
1:10:12
Yeah, and like that's the thing I'm and you know, and people are
1:10:16
like Geminis are two faced and blah blah.
1:10:18
Yeah, that's the. Rap I wouldn't.
1:10:19
I think 2 face is a a weird word for it for me, but I am very I'm
1:10:24
very kind to people, even if I don't like them.
1:10:28
I hate to say that that's and that's something.
1:10:29
You know what's crazy? That's a hot take of mine is can
1:10:32
I, is that OK to say? Give me I if I don't like, if I
1:10:35
don't like someone, I will always be friendly to them.
1:10:38
I will never. I hate to.
1:10:39
Be really good. I will always be nice to them
1:10:41
because one, it only helps. It's also, it's just like life
1:10:45
is too short to just be angry at people and like have these like
1:10:47
grudges and stuff and think that you know, like, oh, it didn't go
1:10:50
my way Or this is like I'll always be friendly to people,
1:10:52
even if they're not like someone that like because one it
1:10:55
doesn't, it doesn't cost. It doesn't.
1:10:58
It's not hard to be like friendly and nice, you know?
1:11:01
Definitely you're better than me.
1:11:03
I'm like notoriously huge cunt. Like actually like if I.
1:11:06
Don't like I love it respect big, big respect like I I get
1:11:10
it. I wish I could be like that.
1:11:11
I wish I hate. I hate the energy of like oh bad
1:11:14
vibe and like I was like, let's just be cool and like at the end
1:11:18
of the day, I don't care if there's any beat like I don't it
1:11:21
doesn't matter. We got light.
1:11:22
There's much like much life. That's what we're gonna do.
1:11:25
Like 'cause you know. LA is such like an insidious
1:11:28
city and like the people. Oh my God, I've met people here
1:11:31
that I'm like there's so many. I think a lot of the times where
1:11:33
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna like move away and my husband like I
1:11:35
just meet people here. I'm like God right?
1:11:37
Like am IA reflection of these people.
1:11:39
That's what's crazy the. Culture is insane, I know, but
1:11:41
honestly you find your drums everywhere.
1:11:43
There's really good people everywhere.
1:11:44
Absolutely. I agree.
1:11:46
And I think when you find the people, you gotta stick with
1:11:47
them, yeah. I agree totally 100%.
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