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LNC is Thankful · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Kasten, and with me as always is the
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  Speaker 1: wonderful Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end
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  Speaker 2: of every day.
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  Speaker 1: That's from, that's from, uh, uh, uh, uh, Figment, correct?
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  Speaker 2: Incorrect. That would be One Little Spark. That's a different
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  Speaker 2: Sherman Brothers song for a Disney ride. This is from
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  Speaker 2: Carousel of Progress.
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  Speaker 1: Have you been or are you just excited about the
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  Speaker 1: updates they're making?
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  Speaker 2: All I will say is that after this week, I
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  Speaker 2: feel more optimistic about the future.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, yes. Which is always a really good place to be.
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  Speaker 1: We're hoping everybody listening is also feeling more optimistic about
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  Speaker 1: the future. Um, and I'm feeling optimistic about all the
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  Speaker 1: geeky stuff happening with us in the world right now.
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  Speaker 1: That was a sentence. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You got there in the end. Um, I forget. Did I,
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  Speaker 2: did I write a question of the week this week?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember doing it.
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  Speaker 1: You did. Um, I've, I'm looking at the spreadsheet. I
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  Speaker 1: know you aren't, but yes. What is your geeky? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: what is your go-to geeky comfort watch?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. No, that was a good, that's a good one. Okay. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: why don't you go first and I'll think about it. What?
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  Speaker 1: No, I was going to say the same thing. Um,
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  Speaker 1: does great British bake off count?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's certainly a comfort watch. I guess it's
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  Speaker 2: geek adjacent. Like it, listen, I don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: one of those gatekeepers who has to sit there and
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  Speaker 2: dictate what is and isn't geeky. But Great British Bake
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  Speaker 2: Off is definitely like an edge case.
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  Speaker 1: So the problem is like there are lots of geeky
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  Speaker 1: movies that I love. Right. But usually when I'm going
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  Speaker 1: for like a comfort watch, it's a TV show because
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  Speaker 1: it's something that I only have to have pay attention to.
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  Speaker 1: And the shows that I mostly lean towards are, would
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  Speaker 1: fit more in the, this kind of almost made our
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  Speaker 1: list category. So like New Girl or Brooklyn Nine-Nine. There
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  Speaker 1: are a couple other like that, that are just like comfort,
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  Speaker 1: happy sitcoms. Those are my go-to, those are my go-to
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  Speaker 1: like comfort watches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I think the IT crowd used to be
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  Speaker 2: that for me or yeah, Yeah, that would probably be
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  Speaker 2: the big one. If I were going with movies, it
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  Speaker 2: would be either Labyrinth or Jaws, which I know is
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  Speaker 2: quite the duo. But Jaws is my favorite film, full stop.
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  Speaker 2: And Labyrinth is way up there. And just as I
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  Speaker 2: find a pretty comfortable watch, I can dip in and
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  Speaker 2: dip out. I've seen it so many times that I
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  Speaker 2: don't need to watch it from beginning to end, right?
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm missing out. Pretty much any
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  Speaker 2: of the decent Muppet movies fall into that category too.
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  Speaker 2: Like definitely the first, like the original Muppet movie and
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  Speaker 2: great Muppet caper, uh, the Muppets a little bit, actually
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  Speaker 2: Muppets most wanted. I think I like more than the
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  Speaker 2: Muppets at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I guess along those, if I were to pick
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  Speaker 1: comfort movies, uh, the princess bride, um, the court jester,
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  Speaker 1: cause that's just one of my all time favorite movies.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so funny and clever. Uh, And then I
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  Speaker 1: haven't watched it in a long time, but it is
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  Speaker 1: the movie that I most remember being like, I love
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  Speaker 1: this movie. I love this movie so much. If I
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  Speaker 1: could step into this movie, I would, which is Ever After.
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  Speaker 2: I think those are those are all legit answers, certainly
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  Speaker 2: more so than the Great British Bake Off.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but again, Great British Bake Off. I am
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  Speaker 1: very geeky about baking. I love doing it. I recently
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  Speaker 1: took a croissant making class. at a local cooking class
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  Speaker 1: studio that's right down the road from me. And I
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  Speaker 1: waited months to take this class because originally I was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to take it in the winter of 2020, like
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. And then we had what
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  Speaker 1: was supposed to be a snowstorm and ended up being nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And the class got canceled. And I couldn't make like
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  Speaker 1: the next two classes. So I just had to wait
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  Speaker 1: all the way to like last month. But let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you, those were the best croissants I've ever had.
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  Speaker 1: And now I know how to make them. So.
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  Speaker 2: That's all about lamination, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: It is. It's lamination and cold butter and not overworking
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  Speaker 1: the gluten in your dough. It's really hard to do,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm super excited to take the full day and
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  Speaker 1: a half it takes to make croissants at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have a new thing on my wish list.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, I would like to have a genuine
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  Speaker 2: aerial baked croissant.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, I will practice making them
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  Speaker 1: on my own because the last time I had the
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  Speaker 1: teacher with me. So I'll make a batch or two
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  Speaker 1: on my own. And if they turn out the next
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  Speaker 1: time we're in a cabin together, provided I can make
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  Speaker 1: the space for it, because it does take like a
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  Speaker 1: full day because you have like hours of resting and
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  Speaker 1: hours of chilling. I will make you some fresh croissants.
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  Speaker 2: Then it looks like after the podcast, I got to
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  Speaker 2: start looking at the calendar for when we can get
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  Speaker 2: a cabin getaway. Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It'll happen again at some point. I know you just
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  Speaker 1: went camping.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah. So, um, I, I, I'll just go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and get this out of the way. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: watch a ding dang darn thing in the geekosphere since
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  Speaker 2: the last time we recorded. Uh, but part of the
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  Speaker 2: reason for that is that for a couple of those
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  Speaker 2: days I was glamping, let's be honest, it wasn't camping,
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  Speaker 2: camping like the, it was in a tent, but it
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  Speaker 2: was also in a tent that had, a split HVAC
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  Speaker 2: unit inside it. So it kept it at a nice
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  Speaker 2: like 68 degrees or so. So it was, it was
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  Speaker 2: perfectly fine inside. It felt, you know, nice and warm
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  Speaker 2: compared to how chilly it was getting in the evening.
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  Speaker 2: But by the way, here in Atlanta, we've also had
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  Speaker 2: the temperature go back up since then. It was in
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  Speaker 2: the like low to mid sixties and now we're in
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  Speaker 2: the seventies again. But yeah, it was a nice time.
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  Speaker 2: We were, I was there with friend of the show, Shaylee.
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  Speaker 2: We played a game called cryptids, which is, uh, had
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  Speaker 2: way more strategy to it than we thought. Also way
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  Speaker 2: more rules and steps. Like it's a, it's a game
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  Speaker 2: where there are five rounds. Each round has four phases.
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  Speaker 2: One of those phases has three turns per person. And
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  Speaker 2: it like, it's, it just got to a point where
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  Speaker 2: it was starting to feel a little ridiculous, but, um, uh, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I'll hesitate to say this because it's kind of mean,
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  Speaker 2: but I won pretty handily. But part of that was
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  Speaker 2: because I was just thinking ahead more like I had
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  Speaker 2: a slightly stronger grasp on the rules. Shay read them
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  Speaker 2: out loud. And I think if I had read them
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  Speaker 2: out loud, it would have gone the other way because
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  Speaker 2: she would have absorbed the information, whereas I would have
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  Speaker 2: just been reciting it. I think I think she and
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  Speaker 2: I learn in a very similar way. So we played that.
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  Speaker 2: And then we also played the game where you hold
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  Speaker 2: up a card and it's got a character or a
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  Speaker 2: person's name on it. And you know, you're asking yes
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  Speaker 2: or no questions to try and figure out who you are.
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  Speaker 2: And we played several rounds of that and that just
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  Speaker 2: got us into giggle fits. So it was a good time.
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  Speaker 2: And we went to Anna Ruby falls, which is gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: And most of the time we just spent sitting outside
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  Speaker 2: of the tent and just kind of relaxing and, You know,
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  Speaker 2: we we we cooked on a campfire and yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was it was a lot of fun. So I think
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  Speaker 2: I will be doing it again, even if I do
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  Speaker 2: it solo. I don't think it's something my partner would
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  Speaker 2: want to do because. A couple of things like the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom situation wasn't terrible, but it also wasn't great. Like
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  Speaker 2: it was fine, but I think fine is not quite
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  Speaker 2: good enough for my partner. And also there was the
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  Speaker 2: situation with the bugs and And my partner is very
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  Speaker 2: bug adverse. So I don't think I'll be doing it
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  Speaker 2: with them anytime soon. But maybe I'll go for some
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  Speaker 2: solo trips or if we ever get like a group
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  Speaker 2: trip going. The only thing is that like it was
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of expensive. Like I could have gotten
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  Speaker 2: a cabin for about the same amount of money. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know on the expense list if I would
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  Speaker 2: do it just because like why not just get a
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  Speaker 2: cabin that's more comfortable and everyone is kind of centrally located. So,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, I am pleased to say I had a
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  Speaker 2: good time because it could have turned out that at
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  Speaker 2: the end of it, I would have said camping is
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  Speaker 2: definitely not for me. And that's not the, that's not
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  Speaker 2: the experience I had.
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  Speaker 1: I love actual camping, camping. Mind you, I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: big fan of bugs either. When I have LARPed it, like,
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  Speaker 1: let's say, shoot, what is it? Camp Rutledge. There's two
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  Speaker 1: camps there. There's Hard Labor Creek and there's Camp Rutledge.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's Hard Labor Creek. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: which one, but one of them has these mutant, crazy,
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  Speaker 1: giant bugs that are like, must have gotten into some
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  Speaker 1: toxic waste because I've never seen bugs like this before.
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  Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it so much. That site's fine,
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  Speaker 1: but I hate that so much. um but i like
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  Speaker 1: camping i like actual camping i i remember being a
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  Speaker 1: kid and going out to like raven's cliffs which is
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  Speaker 1: in north georgia it's a part of the appalachian trail
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  Speaker 1: and doing like survivalist camping like we would put a
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  Speaker 1: tarp around a tree and dig a hole with like
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  Speaker 1: some sticks lashed together for a seat so uh, for
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  Speaker 1: the toilet. So, um, you know, my back is, I'm
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  Speaker 1: currently working to get it to a place where we
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  Speaker 1: can camp again, probably not quite so, so, uh, survivalist
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  Speaker 1: because yeah, comforts are nice, but like to be able
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  Speaker 1: to sleep in a tent and put a, put together
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  Speaker 1: a fire and cook over a campfire. Um, I've got
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  Speaker 1: all the equipment for it. I've actually got newer equipment
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  Speaker 1: for it. I got all the equipment right before my
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  Speaker 1: back went out. So, um, I would be up for
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  Speaker 1: glamping at some point if we can ever find a
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  Speaker 1: time that works for everybody or just regular camping. The
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  Speaker 1: closest to glamping I've gotten is group camping for a LARP.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if that counts. It does, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. This, these tents, like I said, there was a real,
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  Speaker 2: the real beds in there, you know, with actual bed
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  Speaker 2: frames and stuff. And Shay took the bunk bed and
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  Speaker 2: I took the bed bed and, and there was the
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  Speaker 2: HVAC system. So like, it's like, definitely way above just camping, camping.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mind the idea of camping, camping. I would
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  Speaker 2: just have to make sure that whatever sleep system I
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  Speaker 2: had was comfortable and supportive because otherwise I've made, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't even a joke, but it is how I word it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, otherwise someone's going to have to come and
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  Speaker 2: get me. Cause I won't be able to get off
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  Speaker 2: the ground. I will just be, Crying and laying there
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  Speaker 2: and unable to stand up because, you know, I even
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  Speaker 2: in my younger days, sleeping on like just a crappy
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  Speaker 2: sleep mat and then a sleeping bag, I would be
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  Speaker 2: so stiff the next day. And now I just know
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even be able to to stand up.
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  Speaker 1: I am. I used to have a sleeping mat and
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  Speaker 1: a sleeping bag. I'd use it for like sleepovers and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Or I'd use the sleeping mat on top of a cot.
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  Speaker 1: And that was pretty comfortable. I haven't slept in a
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  Speaker 1: cot in a long while. My mom and I used
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  Speaker 1: to roommate. And for a period of time, we both
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  Speaker 1: kind of slept on cots until we got our new beds.
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  Speaker 1: And that was fine. You know, I was much younger then.
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  Speaker 1: Now what I've got is I've got it like a
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  Speaker 1: queen air mattress. I guess it's just important to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that it's new and it's got no holes because
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  Speaker 1: waking up on the cold ground in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the night And making sure that it's insulated. Because the
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  Speaker 1: thing about a cot that is not as true about...
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're both kind of not insulated from the
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  Speaker 1: cold air underneath or the cold ground. But air mattresses,
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  Speaker 1: for me, I always get colder on them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the last time I slept on an air mattress,
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  Speaker 2: there was a leak that I did not detect initially.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, midway through the night, my butt is
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  Speaker 2: on the ground. That was a hard... no pun intended
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  Speaker 2: hard weekend for me. Uh, but for other reasons as
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  Speaker 2: well that I won't go into because it does involve
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  Speaker 2: besmirching someone we both know, but I will say that
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  Speaker 2: I know I could not bounce back from that experience
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  Speaker 2: these days. And that was like 15, 20 years ago,
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  Speaker 2: something probably 15. Um, yeah, but this was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun. Like, uh, like the, the cryptids game was fun. Although, uh,
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  Speaker 2: very complicated more complicated than I anticipated and the guessing
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  Speaker 2: game was a lot of fun and so we definitely
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  Speaker 2: indulged in some geeky experiences but I am curious Ariel
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  Speaker 2: did you have you watched any more geeky stuff since
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  Speaker 2: last time we recorded I.
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  Speaker 1: Did yes so I've watched another episode of X-Men 97
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  Speaker 1: season 2 I liked the second episode better than the
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  Speaker 1: first episode the first episode just jumps into the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the action. And for some reason it didn't grab me,
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  Speaker 1: but I was also super tired at that time. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I watched, uh, Dropout just released the first episode of
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  Speaker 1: their first scripted series in quite a number of years. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's called MP3, Music Presentation 3, and it's, uh, loosely scripted, um,
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  Speaker 1: by Zach Greenow and Jess McKenna. Um, and it's, it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's the in a way that like curb your enthusiasm
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  Speaker 1: was loosely scripted. So they have the way they want
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  Speaker 1: the scene to go and they have points that you
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  Speaker 1: need to hit in the scene. And then there's improv
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  Speaker 1: in between. Some of the improv was really great. Some
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  Speaker 1: of it was a little, it dragged a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And then there were music videos in between. None of
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  Speaker 1: the music videos were like super bangers that really grabbed me.
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  Speaker 1: They were all like almost there. It wasn't that the, the,
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  Speaker 1: performances were bad or anything like that, but it just
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there. But I'm hoping that the second episode really
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  Speaker 1: gets its legs. Paul F. Tompkins is in it and
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  Speaker 1: he's amazing. And I find him funny in anything. So
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  Speaker 1: I watched that. I will give it more of a chance.
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  Speaker 1: I watched, ooh, I watched, not washed, the season finale
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  Speaker 1: of Taskmaster. That was a lot of fun. I went
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  Speaker 1: to watch season seven of Taskmaster New Zealand that had
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  Speaker 1: been on YouTube, but it looks like that's been taken
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  Speaker 1: down which is sad. So now I need either need
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  Speaker 1: to wait for them to re-release it, or I need
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: to go on the international browser that plays it and
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  Speaker 1: find it. Um, I watched Backrooms and it was scarier
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  Speaker 1: than I had hoped, but not as scary as I expected. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and that's fine. It was fine. Um, I watched Vision Quest.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I'm, I won't spoil it for you. I,
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  Speaker 1: It was very good. I'm so enjoying this series. I
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  Speaker 1: really am. I like it better than Agatha all along.
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  Speaker 1: But I like the entire trilogy as a whole. And
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  Speaker 1: then I started watching, this isn't really geeky, but Nobody
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  Speaker 1: Wants This, which season three just came out on Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: It stars Kristen Bell and Adam Brody. And it's about
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  Speaker 1: a girl who's in her midlife, who's not really ever
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  Speaker 1: found a good relationship. And then she and a rabbi
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  Speaker 1: fall in love and all of the difficulties between that,
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  Speaker 1: because she's not Jewish. And it is surprisingly heartwarming. Surprisingly.
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  Speaker 1: So I've, I'm on season three. I binged it in
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  Speaker 1: like two or three days.
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  Speaker 2: So. That sounds, sounds like a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to catching up on vision quest.
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  Speaker 2: This week has been a real bear, not the bear,
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  Speaker 2: but a bear. For my partner, she's been working late
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  Speaker 2: a lot and had like late night calls and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So we haven't actually had time to sit down or
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  Speaker 2: energy really because I think there was one night where
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  Speaker 2: we potentially could have done it. But I also was
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  Speaker 2: coming back from the gym late, which was Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 2: So I started going back to the gym and I
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  Speaker 2: started off doing Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays. But because of my
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  Speaker 2: camping trip, Uh, my, my first visit this week got
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  Speaker 2: pushed to Wednesday, which means I got to do another
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  Speaker 2: one today. We're recording on Friday and then I got
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  Speaker 2: to do my third one on Sunday. And then I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to try to get back into Tuesday, which means
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have fewer days of rest between the
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  Speaker 2: two weeks of workouts, but I'm just going to try
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  Speaker 2: and not overdo it anyway, because I worked out late
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  Speaker 2: the time I got back to the house. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to lay down and not move. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't, I don't think I even have the
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  Speaker 2: energy to watch anything. So I, I pretty much went
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  Speaker 2: to bed. Um, I think I had, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I had that dinner yet. So I think I had
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  Speaker 2: dinner and then I just conked out, but hopefully this
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  Speaker 2: weekend we'll be able to catch up. Cause we've got
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: probably four episodes now to catch up on. Cause there
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: were two from the week we missed. I mean, maybe
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: it's just three, maybe it's just three episodes. Um, we
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: had watched the first four episodes, so I don't know
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: what episode.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: They're on now, but, uh, This week they only released one.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: So you've got three episodes.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I've got, you know, three more to catch. Um, yeah. Cause,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: cause that's right. Cause next week is the last one, right?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Episode eight. Um, cause they did two, two, two, and
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: then they did one and one. So yeah, I'm looking
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: forward to catching up cause, uh, I was really enjoying
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: it through the first four episodes. So, uh, hopefully, I mean,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see how many more times they
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: can figure out how to break my heart. Cause I
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: know there's going to be at least one more. So
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to finding that out. Cause I, Hey,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I got your number. I've seen one division and I've
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: seen Agatha all along. I know what's happening. You weren't
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: going to surprise me, but yeah, that sounds great. I'm
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: glad that you enjoyed the stuff you saw.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm I was mad that the finale wasn't out,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: but also I'm, I wish the series was a couple
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: more episodes long. As long as they can wrap it
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: up well, I don't feel... There's some series that are
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: eight episodes long where I just feel like they've rushed it, right?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: They've tried to get it into an eight-episode series in
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: order to keep people's attention and make sure that people
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: finish it. But with this one, you know, I know
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that I suspect... that this is the end of the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: trilogy if they do anything else with it it's not
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: necessarily going to be another tv series so um at
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: least not right away they'll probably tie it back into
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the greater mcu universe for a while um if there's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: anything to tie in who knows um but uh i'm
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: really enjoying it and if they can tell the story
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: well in the eight episodes that's great i will just
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: be sad when it's over because I am enjoying it
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: so very much.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I mean, we've seen many series where they've done, uh, where,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: you know, you watch it and you feel like, Oh,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: when they pitched this, they didn't really have a good
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: feel for how much story is there versus how many episodes.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Cause you'll either get, a situation where you feel like
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: too much was crammed in to try and tell it
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: in the number of episodes they got, or it's the opposite, right?
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Where you're like, Oh, the first like four episodes were amazing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And then we cut like three episodes of them treading
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: water because they realized they had built up too close
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to the, the critical moment and they had to stall.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: And then you get like the big payoff. So yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: it's hard. Storytelling is hard. And I think it's also
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: hard because I bet that the deals that go in
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: that determine how many episodes these series are going to
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: be happened before the story is complete. So then it
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: becomes a trick of how do we write a story
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that fills the amount of time we've been allotted as
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: opposed to we've got a story. How do we divide
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: the story up into increments that make sense to be episodes? And, uh, uh,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you know, you can always tell, like if you watch
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: even movies do this too, like you can watch a
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: movie and you're like, Oh, this was clearly, this one
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: clearly started shooting before the script was finished. See also
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: every parts of the Caribbean movie. But, um, yeah, I,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I totally get what you're saying.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, you know, whereas like some people like with
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: stranger things still on my Tik TOK feed pops up, Oh,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: they just posted all these videos about stranger things. Uh,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: about the ending and how it's not really the ending.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, just let go guys, just breathe. Um,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: but you know, uh, it, it's fine. Um, I think
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they're doing a good job with this. It really shows
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the MCU can really tell some wonderful, moving, brilliant, unique stories.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And I just hope that they hold onto this as
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: they move forward. And we should move forward to our
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: 30 seconds or less. And I believe I start this week.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Jonathan's giving me the thumbs up so that we don't echo.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So the first thing is that BioWare, which we talked
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: about being shut down by EA, is doing a documentary
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: called Massive Effect. This will go through their inception, all
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the way through their heyday, all the way to being
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: shut down by EA and why that happened. Um... I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: really love a lot of the games that Bioware came
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: out with. And even the ones that I didn't play
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: or like I'm playing Dragon Age Inquisition right now. And
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: vaguely I've, I've hit in a lot of the plot points.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So I need to get back to it so I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: can finish the game. They took a lot of big
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: swings and not all of them hit for me, but
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate the ingenuity they put in that has
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: affected so many games after it and created such a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: more robust storytelling world. I've gone over 30 seconds. I'm
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: going to shut up now.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just to add on to that, like the Knights
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: of the Old Republic games, those were games that gave
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Star Wars fans some actual fun, interesting stories with new
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: characters and built up a lot of excitement for when
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the next Star Wars movies came out. So I think
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Lucasfilm owes BioWare a lot of credit for keeping the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: love of Star Wars alive. Not that if those games
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: hadn't come out those movies still wouldn't have been highly anticipated.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I just think it definitely contributed to that. All right. Uh, I'll,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I'll move on to my first one. So let's start
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: off with some horror news. Nev Campbell told the associated
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: press this week that she's coming back once again, as
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Sydney Prescott in screen eight, this will make seven screen
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: films that feature Campbell in the role, but the only
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: exception being screen six, when she had a dispute with
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: producers over compensation, it seems like you can't keep a
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: good final girl down.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I just don't know where they're going to go from there.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I also don't know where they're going to go with
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the Magic the Gathering live action feature that's coming out
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: by Legendary Entertainment and Hasbro by Matt Johnson. But what
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I do know is that Maya Hawke will be joining
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the cast. As what character? We don't know. Really, I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: have forgotten that this was a thing until this article.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it won't be tap for Manna. It'll
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: be tap for Maya. And in horror news... Francis Gallupi,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the man behind the upcoming Evil Dead Wrath film, will
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: write a new John Constantine film for DC Studios. Now,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you might remember the 2005 Constantine movie with Keanu Reeves
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: or the 2014 TV series with Matt Ryan. So Constantine
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: is a British detective, unless it's Keanu Reeves, who frequently
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: gets tied up in supernatural affairs, usually to his detriment.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I legit forgot that the Constantine movie, which I haven't
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: watched in the TV show, which I vaguely watched, were
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the same Constantine. I also did get Jean-Claude Van Damme
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and Steven Seagal mixed up, which is a huge shame.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: But the next story is about Jean-Claude Van Damme, who
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is generally thought of as a pretty decent guy and
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a really kick-ass martial artist. is going to be in
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a new movie called Katana about a guy whose daughter
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: gets abducted by the Yakuza. So kind of like Taken,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: but more martial arty.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Next up in the world of horror, Daisy Ridley will
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: appear in a horror film titled Get Rid of It,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: along with Simon Rex and Sozie Bacon. In the movie,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Ridley will play Harper, who travels with her sister Jessie
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: to go on a road trip before discovering that she,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Harper that is, is pregnant after a one-night stand, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: then she begins to suspect the baby she is carrying
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: isn't exactly human. Horrors ensue, and the film will soon
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: be seeking distributors.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Spooky. Okay, uh, Naruto is getting a live-action feature?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Is it live-action?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is live action. I'm sorry, I've never watched Naruto.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I watched some Dragon Ball Z, but not until like
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the last five years, honestly. It's being done by Dustin
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Daniel Cretton, who also did Spider-Man Brand New Day. He's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: writing and directing and producing. It's gonna come out spring 2027,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: so that's pretty good. I wonder if they've tapped some
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: of the kids from Weapons to be in this as
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: they already have the Naruto rundown.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: That's great. Oh, hey, look, a horror story. I believe
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: a long while back we had a story about how
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: one of Sidney Sweeney's upcoming projects was a reimagining of
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Sleepy Hollow, simply titled Hollow. Now we know that Nicholas Galtazine,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: who the actor was recently He-Man, is in talks to
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: play Ichabod Crane. This version is based on an upcoming
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: novel that reframes the story as a sort of supernatural
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: suspense erotic thriller. I'm holding back all the jokes I
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: have about the Headless Horseman.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, Paul Bettany, um, is going to be in something
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: else after Vision Quest because of course, because Paul Bettany
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is brilliant. He's going to be in Steven Yeun's Pagans,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: which is an upcoming Netflix drama, um, where he is
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the dad of two kids. His wife dies and, or
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: tragically lost. Maybe she's not actually dead. Who knows? Um,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: but he becomes a caretaker of his two kids, his son, Nate,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and his daughter Alice, and his daughter is not normal,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and there's a strained relationship, and then stuff goes.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Dark.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: That's what we know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: And for a change of pace, I've got some horror news.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Rosamund Pike is listed as a producer and star of
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: an upcoming body horror film titled Feed. It sounds a
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: bit like The Substance, and then you throw in some
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: stage mommy vibes. So the story follows a mother who
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: coerces her gymnast daughter to take an experimental treatment to
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: boost her performance, only to find that her daughter is
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: slowly turning into something else, which sounds pretty creepy.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It does. In not horror news, because I guess we're
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: playing tug of war today. Adam Driver says that he's
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: done playing Kylo Ren. That's sad news for people who
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: are looking forward to the hunt for Ben Solo. Maybe not.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: getting a refresh. That was something that he was working
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: on with Steven Soderbergh and they worked on it for
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: like two years and it just didn't come to fruition.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: That's not his choice, but at this point he's like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, hi horror. Letitia Wright, the actress who plays Shuri
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: in the MCU is attached to a supernatural horror film
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: titled In Her Shadow. She'll play an author who discovers
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that her recently deceased sister had a daughter locked up
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: in her basement for five years and So she adopts
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: her niece only to find out that maybe her sister
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: had a good reason to lock the girl away. Kids,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: am I right?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: You're right. You know, I can't tell if life is
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a blessing or life is a horror for Keanu Reeves
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: because he keeps saying he's leaving the John Wick franchise
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and they keep pulling him back in. It's like the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Hotel California. But in this case, he is voicing John
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Wick in a new animated film by Lionsgate. I have
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: forgotten any other important information about when it might come out,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: but if you're loving John Wick still, that's good news
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And finally, in horror news, Three Arts and Lionsgate have
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: partnered to create a new horror production company called Render Road.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: The company will, quote, develop, produce, and finance projects for
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: digital alongside traditional films and television series, end quote, according
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to Deadline. Sounds like Render Road will join the ranks
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: of other companies like Blumhouse, A24, and so on. That's it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: That's our 30 Seconds or Less.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I love so on. That's my favorite. OK, well, if
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: we're done with 30 seconds or less, what are you
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: calling this segment this week, Jonathan? Because I always try
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: something and you've always got something.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Better this week. I'm calling it. Hey, you know, our
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: show notes are a little light. And if baking is geeky,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: how about a documentary about Rob Lowe? That could be geeky, too.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Come on in, guys.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Not your strongest, but we'll go with it. Yes. So
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the first thing we've got is a documentary about Rob Lowe.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: It's called Rob Lowe, colon, The Outsider. And it's just
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: about his life in Hollywood and how being a young
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: star in Hollywood kind of really messed with his perceptions
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of how to be a human and how to grow
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: up and kind of set him down some dark paths
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and how he came back from that. It looks pretty
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: interesting to me.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyone, anyone who's especially anyone who was around in
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties knows that, you know, Rob Lowe, he,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, he had a stratospheric rise to fame as
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: a young, like a teenager and, uh, how that thrust
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: him into a world of parties and drugs and, um, and,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: and adult relationships will say, um, he, he had, uh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: some pretty high highs early on mixed with some incredible lows,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: like no, no pun intended, but like he incredible Rob Lowe's,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: but he, he definitely hit a point where I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of people wrote him off as just not
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: ever going to have a career again. You know, like
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: things had just gotten that bad, kind of like Robert
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Downey jr. In many ways, like RDJ, he also had
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a similar trajectory in, in life that, uh, that really
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: crashed out. And both of them have been able to
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: kind of, uh, learn from that experience, apparently learn from
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: that experience and get their lives together and, and, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: rise to levels that perhaps they never even dreamed would
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: be possible. Uh, certainly Rob Lowe and more recent years
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: has played lots of, uh, characters that I find really entertaining.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And I didn't think that was going to be possible
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: considering some of the stuff that happened to him, way
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: back in the eighties. Like I was, I thought he
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: was done for, but, uh, this, this documentary, which looks
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: like it looks at all that stuff comes out on
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: November 24th on Netflix. Um, as, as interesting as it looks,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I'll necessarily, like, I don't watch
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of, uh, like biopics or documentaries about people
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: unless they really mean a lot to me. And while
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I like Rob Lowe's work, it's not like I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: of Rob Lowe as like, one of those actors where
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I really want to learn more as opposed to say
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Gene Wilder. I'm looking forward to that documentary.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm also not big into documentaries. I still need
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to watch the Maria Bamford one, which is out now.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But I do appreciate when people are willing to talk
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: about stuff like this, the messy parts of their lives,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: because it's really something you can learn from. And like, one,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it's amazing when they're able to get their life back
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: on track. And two, you know, it's helpful if you're,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in a similar arena in any sort of way. So
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate being people just being honest about the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: humanity of these things in these situations. I also don't
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: think I'm going to watch the next thing we've got
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: on our list, which is UBA scams for a better tomorrow.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This follows UBA Butler, whom I'm not familiar with
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: the variety calls a quote, Gonzo journalist and a hoax
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: artist end quote. That's not my thing. Like, I'm not
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: big on hoaxes or any gonzo journalism type stuff. And
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: so I'm and also I'm old, so I'm out of touch.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: But this is a series on HBO that is following
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Uba as he attempts to essentially scam his way into
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: industries that themselves are kind of rife with scams and hoaxes.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: So things like the wellness industry, which I can't really
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: think of many more besides crypto. I don't think I
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: can think of a industry that has more scams in
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: it than wellness. Wellness and crypto are probably at the top,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: but also he's looking at the music industry and others.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And so it's kind of asking the question, like, can
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: he really take the fake it till you make it
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and and absurd and outlandish ideas and actually have them
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: be accepted and into these communities that are known for hoaxes.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Like how absurd can you get before people will say, no,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: that's too far. And I think for some of these industries,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: it might be surprising and perhaps a bit upsetting to
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: see how far he will have to go before people
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: start to resist. Uh, this comes out November 22nd on HBO.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: So did you, did you actually watch the trailer all
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the way through? Cause I did put a little warning
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: in there for you.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. And I missed your warning until after
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I watched it. Um, this is part of the reason
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I won't watch it, but I also don't like hoaxes. Um, it,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it just, it goes too far for me in the trailer.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, that's fair. Like I, I don't like
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: hoaxes either. I do like exposes. Like I think I
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: like things that expose hoaxes for what they are. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: in a way that's kind of what he's doing is
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: that he's using the, the structure of hoaxes to show how, uh,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: how prevalent, uh, they are in these different industries, but
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: at the same time, I'm like, yeah, but I already
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: know that. Like, I don't need you to tell me
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: that the music industry has lots of like scams included
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in there. I mean, that's pretty well, it's been well
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: known forever, ever since there's been a recording industry, people
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: have known that. So it's not like, I feel like he's,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like he's necessarily bringing new information to light.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe he is showing how absurd it can get. But like,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I think an expose works better than just perpetuating more hoaxes.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I agree. This just feels like one step above Borat
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to me, which is also like I understand what he's doing.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And I know that people appreciate it. And it's just
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: not for me. Something that might be for me, and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't think so by the name of it, is
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Fists on a Plane, Wings of Dread.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the original Chinese title for this action film
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is just Wings of Dread. So I think the fists
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: on a plane was like the cheeky English speaking approach
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: of like, how do we get people to watch a
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: martial arts action film that's set aboard a plane? Let's
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: make a snakes on a plane reference because that's a
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: film that totally bombed and everyone's going to love that reference. Anyway,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: cynicism aside, the basic premise here is that there is
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: a high ranking like criminal who is being transported via plane.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And he secretly has compatriots on board the plane who
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: are all going to try and set them free and
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: then hijack the plane. And a, uh, air marshal is the, the,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the defense against this group of evil and is charged
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: with defeating the bad guy and keeping as many passengers
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: safe as possible. Um, And it looks like it's pretty
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: action heavy. This comes to digital release on November 24th.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: So you mentioned that this might be something you watch.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I think it looks like it's an entertaining action film. So,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: so talk a little bit about your reaction to the trailer.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, I enjoyed it. First of all, I love
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the fact that it was a mix of subtitles in English.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I thought that was fun. I love the fact that
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: some of the, like at one point in the trailer,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: there's a, there's a, flight attendant fighting. And I love
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: that there's just this bad-ass flight attendant. We don't know
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: if she's actually a Marshall or if she's just somebody
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: who happens to be really competent, who works in the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: flight industry. Uh, but I'm interested to find out it is,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: it is silly that such a small little detail got me,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but it looks like there's like some humor in there.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: It looks like there's good action. The fights looked interesting.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think in all ways it looks superior
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: to my other favorite, uh, action movie on a plane,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: which is not con air. Although I do think con
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: air is cheesy and entertaining. My favorite, my favorite action
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: movie on a plane is not snakes on a plane.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Cause I don't think that's very good at all. I
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: think the idea is better than the movie. The moot,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: my favorite action movie on a plane is legitimately a
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: terrible film and it's called money plane. And it is
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a gloriously entertaining movie. horrible movie. There's nothing good about it, really.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: But I have a feeling that Fists on a Plane,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Wings of Dread is poised to take first place.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you do you, Boo. If you like
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Money Plane, watch Money Plane. I've also never seen that one,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: but I've heard about it. The next trailer on our
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: list is The Gallerist, Galleria, that's, no, that's a mall.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: It's The Gallerist. It's about a gallery owner, played by
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Natalie Portman, who I didn't even recognize at first. Like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: that's all you have to do is put on a
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: wig and I can't recognize you. That's what Natalie Portman did.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Blonde Natalie, I can't, I give up. Blonde Natalie Portman
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: is hard to recognize. it also took me a second.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah jenna ortega is playing her assistant um uh i
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: think is it katherine zeta jones who's playing her like
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: she's playing jenna ortega's aunt and also a curator um
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And then you have a divine joy Randolph. She's playing
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: an artist or up and coming artist. Who's created this
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: sculpture that has a very, very sharp point on it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Zach Galifianakis plays an incredibly obnoxious social media influencer who,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: who can make or break an art installation with his,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: his reactions to it. And you see all this in
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the trailer, Galifianakis, his character, accidentally gets impaled on the sculpture.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And so first Natalie Portman's like, we got to hide
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: this so that we can, we can, uh, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: we can't have all these people saying it'll ruin the gallery.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: And then it turns into a thing where people mistakenly
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: believe that Galifianakis' corpse is part of the art installation.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: That's maybe not, you know, not real, but it's part
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: of the installation itself. And people start to get really impressed.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: And then it becomes a thing of, How can we
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: make as much money off this as possible without going
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to jail? So it's kind of a dark comedy and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a crime film in a way. This
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: comes out December 4th and it looks like I thought
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the trailer looked fun, but I will say I saw
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: early reviews for this and the early reviews have it
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: sitting at around 55% Rotten Tomatoes score. So it sounds
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: like fun premise, fun performances, but the script just doesn't
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: support the story based upon the early reviews. Now your
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: mileage may vary. It may be one of those things
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: where you go and see it and you're like, I
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: don't agree with that at all. I thought it was
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: really entertaining. And the trailer certainly looked entertaining to me.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: But once I looked at those reviews, I started to
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: get a little sad because I was like, Oh, so
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: much wasted potential.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel bad for Jenna Ortega because Clara
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: and the Sun, which we had talked about in a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: previous episode, also recently came out and also got kind
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: of panned. Now, mind you, it has a 75% audience
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which is not bad, but the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: critical review was miserable at 26%. So hopefully this will
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: do better.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've had this conversation before where I
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: tend to be more aligned with the critical response. Like
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: even if I don't know it going ahead of time,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: if I go into a movie and I come out,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I'll check later and I'll be like, oh yeah, I
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: feel about the same way as what the general critics
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: feel like. And I tend to agree less with the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: audience response, which probably just means I'm a snooty, snobby
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: movie guy.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Snooty, snobby movie guy. I'm going to start calling you that. No,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. The last thing in stuff that your
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: title is far too long. in our vaguely applicable section
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: is bad day with Cameron Diaz. Yeah.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: And, and the, the title kind of sets you up
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: for the premise. Cameron Diaz has made a promise to her,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: her teenage child that she will be, I forget what
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the event is, but she's going to be there at
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: no matter what. It's a soccer game, soccer game. And
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: then she proceeds to have the worst day ever. where
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: she has to take her dad to dialysis treatment and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: things do not go as planned. Her car gets towed.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: At one point, she's trying to just withdraw some money
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: from the bank, and the bank misinterprets her desperation as
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: a bank robbery attempt. So it's like a lot of
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: farcical-type stuff that all happens. And meanwhile, she's still determined
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: to go and see her daughter, no matter what, hell
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: or high water. This comes out December 11th on Netflix.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, when I saw this, I thought, it definitely
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: looks like Cameron Diaz is putting her all in it
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: to be this, this, uh, this incredibly frazzled, but determined mother. Uh,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: and also I'm wondering how extreme does this get? Cause
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: like the bank robbery stuff is clearly ridiculous, right? It's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: not at all. Like people do not react in an
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: at all realistic way. Uh, but of course it's a comedy. So, uh,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I thought it looked kind of like it could be entertaining.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: It could be diverting. It's a, it does feel very
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: much like a Netflix original movie to me.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: It does. It does. It also has Ed O'Neill and
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I like, I like him outside of married with children. So, um, uh,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't like him until 10th kingdom, which is sad. Uh,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: he plays the troll King. Um, uh, if I'm bored,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I might give it a shot. Um, it's got a
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: good cast. It looks pretty popcorn to me.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see this as being like a must watch,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: but it is one of those things where like if
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: you're scrolling endlessly on Netflix and it pops up, you're like, yeah,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I'll give it a shot. I'll watch like 10, 15 minutes,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: see if it hooks me. I could see it being
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: one of those. All right. Well, it is time for
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: us to head to John Boy's Horror Hutch. However, I
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: only have two movies in it. So it's really more
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: like John Boy's Haunted Music Box. So come on over here.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: and lift this spider-themed music box lid, mind the actual
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: spiders that come out once the lid is open, and
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: let us gaze into the music box of Doom together. Ariel,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: did you watch either of the trailers that I included?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm just getting past the mental image of a
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: harp made out of spider legs. Give me one second. Okay,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I watched them both. I.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Misread the title of the first one and I'm glad
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I was wrong because I did not want to click
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: on it when I transposed the L in the I.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Okay so the movie Ariel thought she was going to
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: have to watch or the trailer she thought she was
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: going to have to watch was Slit but it's actually
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Silt S-I-L-T so this is a Tommy Wiseau movie if
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you're wondering what Tommy Wiseau has been up to. He's
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the infamous filmmaker and actor, if you can call it that,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: behind the room. If you wonder what he's been up
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: to recently, well, it's this. Silt is described as a
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: cosmic horror thriller. Apparently it centers around a retreat that's
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: located on a lake, and it turns out that the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: lake has mystical healing powers of some sort. And it's
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: a bunch of different people who all go to this
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: this retreat you know some of them know each other
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: some of them are strangers and Tommy Wiseau appears to
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: be like the person leading the retreat I mean I
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: wrote here a retreat led by Tommy Wiseau it's probably
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a character played by Wiseau but because it's Wiseau you
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: can't be sure that it's not just Wiseau because his
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: ability to act is somewhat limited I will say Uh,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: other actors in the film though, include people that I'm
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: actually familiar with, like Malcolm Goodwin, who was in the
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: first season of Reacher, uh, David Anders, who was in
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: the Vampire Diaries, Olivia Grace Applegate from Love and Death
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and Andrea Sixtus from Arrow. So this movie has like,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they're, none of them are big actors,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: but they're all like working actors. Um, the trailer also
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: ends with a URL for demand the screen.com. So that
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: if you're, if you want a local theater to have
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: a screening of this, you can petition to have that happen.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: So it's not exactly got like a, a robust distribution
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: deal there. I thought this trailer looked, Pretty bad. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: thought the actors, apart from Wiseau, who continues to be
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: absolutely dreadful. I thought the actors seemed to be doing
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: like their best. But the I almost want to call
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: it videography as opposed to cinematography left a lot to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: be desired. And it didn't I wasn't getting like cosmic
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: horror vibes at all, even though that's what's being described
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: as what was Ariel. You are a fan of some
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: cosmic horror, at least. What was your reaction to watching
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: this trailer?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I also think the actors were doing their very best.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: David Anders is the one that I'm most familiar with
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: because he's done a ton of stuff. He's been in
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Once Upon a Time. He's been in iZombie. Like you said,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Vampire Diaries. Just a ton of stuff. I thought the
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: beginning of it actually looked better than the Tommy Wiseau movie.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And then he came in and the quality went straight
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: down for the rest of the trailer. It was so frustrating.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I know that he's doing it just like he's doing
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it on purpose now, which is frustrating.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Like the thing about the room is that he in theory,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the story is he honestly thought he was making something
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that was going to be the next, you know, Rosebud.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of that movie all of
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a sudden, but Citizen Kane.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: He thought he was going to make the next Citizen Kane.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: And now he is purposefully making movies that he makes worse. So, yeah,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I am surprised he got the people in it to
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: be in it. Um, that might just be kind of,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: it might just be because Tommy Wiseau is this bizarre
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: force of nature. Now people are like, yeah, that sounds
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: like fun. Or it might be, although it sounds like
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: working on the room was not actually fun for most people,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: or it could just be that, you Do indie films.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I'm going to watch it.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was a thing where like in order to
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: maintain SAG benefits, people needed to be in at least
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: one more feature.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe. I mean, again, like the beginning looked good and
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: then Tommy Wiseau showed up and everything went downhills. Downhills? Downhills.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I said.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very, yeah, it's a very was
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: so kind of thing. I even threw a little was
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: so reference in our 30 seconds or less with Ohio. Yeah.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: When I first started watching this trailer, well, first of all,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: his name was in the thumb or in the title.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: So it didn't come as a surprise to me. What
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: did come as a surprise is like you were saying,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: when I first started watching it, I was like this.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't look like it's, super highly produced,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: but it definitely looks bigger than say an asylum pictures film.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: It looks better produced than something like that. But then
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: as it went on, I started to, to lose whatever
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: little hope I had for it. I mean, part of
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: me is like, do I watch it just out of
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: morbid curiosity? And then part of me is like, I
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: don't know if I want to reward that. Because the
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: joy of the room, as you were saying, is that
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: that was a sincere attempt to make something great. I
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: know that Wiseau later on tried to walk that back
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and say he always intended it to be a comedy.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: But based on everything that everyone else ever has said
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: about that, that's just not the case. He really was
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: sincerely trying to create a melodrama. And it just came
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: out to be a total farce. And trying to recreate
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: that and not have it just happen organically. It's not
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the same. So not that I feel like this is
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: necessarily trying to go for that sort of thing. It's
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: just his, his performance appears to be the only element
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: that is trying to do that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now the next trailer, uh, at least conceptually I
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: am interested in. Yeah.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: And that is for a movie called drag, which is
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: part dark comedy, part thriller, uh, part home invasion horror film,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: except it's told from the perspective of the invaders, not
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the person whose home is being invaded. Typically in a
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: home invasion horror movie, you're meant to side with the
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: person whose, whose house is being invaded, but not in
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: this one. So it's a, it's about a couple of women.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: One of whom is played by Lizzie Kaplan and the
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: other by Lucy DeVito, who is Danny DeVito's daughter. They
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: plan to rob a house and, that's owned by a
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: famous painter is played by John Stamos and Kaplan's character
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: goes into the house by herself, leaving DeVito's character outside
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: in the car. And then DeVito's character hears Kaplan's character
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: scream out in pain. So she goes in to see
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: what's happening, finds out that Kaplan has, is laying in
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: the bathtub and has thrown out her back and is
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: unable to stand up. And, DeVito's character really doesn't want
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: to go to jail, but she also doesn't want to
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: leave her friend behind. So she figures the only solution
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: is to try and drag Kaplan out of the house,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: hopefully before the painter comes home. But guess what happens?
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: The painter comes home. So now they have to hide
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: in the house and try and see if they can
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: find a way to escape without being detected. Meanwhile, the
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: painter is coming off kind of scary skeezy. Like, maybe
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: the painter is like someone you really don't want to
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: mess with besides just being John Stamos. Um, Danny DeVito
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: co-produced this movie. It comes out January 29th. Uh, and
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: you know, did, did you find the trailer at all entertaining?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes. When you said, when you wrote it's
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a thriller, it's definitely a comedy thriller. I like the cast.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I like the people behind it. Um, I generally find
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: them funny. Um, it looks a little bloody to me.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: So I am worried that it might go a bit too,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a bit further than I am comfortable with without being
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: like skeeved out. But like I said, conceptually it's very entertaining.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I immediately sent a trailer to a friend of mine.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so for you, you need to
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: watch it right now.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Well, as someone who has had back issues, I hope
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: this isn't asking too much of you, my friend, but
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: since you're someone who has had back issues, What was
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: how much empathy did you feel for Lizzie Kaplan's character,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: who is clearly like immobile and in agony throughout most
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: of this trailer?
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I thought she was underplaying the pain. Like, it's fine.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I've watched people have back issues before. This is very
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: like home alone, but in Uncle Jesse's house, if Uncle
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Jesse were a villain kind of a thing. Yeah. But
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: but like I had empathy for the pain, but I'm like,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you're not in enough pain.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: That's that's fair. I I remember the one bit that
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: made me wince was toward the very end of the
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: trailer where there's a shot of her sliding down the stairs.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, you've already thrown your back out.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I can't even imagine how excruciating that experience would be.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Like the beginning pulling her out of the bathtub, like
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I would have been screaming, crying, tears, pouring down my face,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: at least the way my back goes out. You know, I'm,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I know that there are levels and degrees and everybody
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: has a different pain tolerance. Uh, but yeah.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Anyway, it does look like it'll be a fun, dark
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: comedy kind of thing. So I could totally see myself
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: going to see this probably. I mean, Ariel, you and
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I could probably see this, but a friend of the show,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Shaylee would probably dig this too. Uh, And that's it.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: That's it for the horror. So let me just, okay,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to gently close the lid on this
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: music box. And now I'm just gonna chuck it in
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the fire. Okay.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Good call.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Now we are going to just go into our show notes.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: And our first item is a trailer for a dystopian
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: action thriller film called Karoshi.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is about a business, a corporation where they
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: they expect you to work to death pretty much. And
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: after a worker does die, the kind of the hero
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: of the story goes to investigate and finds out that
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of really creepy stuff going on.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: And by investigate, Ariel kind of means kick butt. with
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: an umbrella that's hiding a katana inside of it as
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: well as other stuff. Like there's definitely martial arts action
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: in this. It's an interesting cast. It's so it's written
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: and directed by Takashi Dasher and Teo Yu stars in this,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: but there are some Western actors in this as well.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Cynthia Erivo is in it. Giancarlo Esposito is in it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: And it's supposed to be set in kind of a
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: near future perspective. So it's at first I thought it
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be set in like Tokyo, but it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: supposed to be set in Manhattan, according to the little
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: synopsis I read. And yeah, it looks it looks first
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: and foremost like an action thriller. I don't know how
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: thought provoking this is going to be, even though it
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: is kind of commenting on like the unhealthy work culture
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: that's in certain movies. regions. I think of it primarily
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: in Japan. Like you actually hear about people, you know,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: working themselves to death in Japan, but it's not like
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: we here in the United States are far behind, honestly. So, uh,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I think there is some commentary going on here, but
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I think, I think it's action thriller first and commentary. Second,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: it comes out February 5th.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm super interested in this one. I want to
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: watch it. Um, I really want to watch it. This
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: next one. I must have missed. I don't remember watching
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: this trailer.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Fair enough. I mean, I did that to you last week, right? So, um, uh,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: or no, I, I made fun of you last week
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: cause I put one up and you hadn't had a
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: chance to see it yet. So this is, uh, this
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: is a film called criminal or actually series called criminal.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: It's not a film. It's a series that's coming to, um, uh,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Amazon prime, I believe. And, uh, It is an adaptation
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: of some comic books, a series of, I think, 10
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: comic books that have been collected in a graphic novel
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: called Criminal. And Criminal is divided into two different stories.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: The first story, which encompasses the first half of the comics,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: is called Coward. And the second half is called Lawless.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: And they cover stories that are set in the same world,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: but with different sets of characters who are interrelated but
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: like the stories are just kind of tangentially related to
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: each other so coward is about a pickpocket who is
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: very non-confrontational like he's apparently a brilliant criminal and is
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: really good at planning out things but is very non-confrontational
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: and how he gets pulled into an armored car heist
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: where things do not go as planned. And the second story, Lawless,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: is about a former soldier. He was a criminal who
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: then gets pushed into the military in order to kind
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: of avoid jail time and then comes back to hunt
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: down people who killed his brother. So it's kind of
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: a revenge story on that end. Charlie Hunnam is the
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: pickpocket character. Luke Evans is the former soldier. Other actors
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: in the series include Gus Halper, Adria Arjona, and Emilia Clarke,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Daenerys Targaryen herself. The series debuts on January 13th and
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Coward will be the first story to come out. And
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: two weeks later, Lawless will premiere. So yeah, Yeah, I
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: included it here because it is an adaptation of a
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: comic book. It's not a superhero comic book. It's not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: like a supernatural comic book, but still in the comic
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: book world. So if you are a fan of those
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: comics and you're curious if the adaptation is going to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: do it justice, you can check it out starting January 13th.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. Next, we've got Hunchback, Soul of Paris. This
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: is a... It's in French, historical drama film directed by
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Jean-Francois Rocher. The thing that they say that they're doing
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: interesting about it is they're not going with the basic
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: story of the Hunchback of Notre Dame. They're rather trying
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: to put some of the real life history that influenced
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the story in there.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of. I mean, it's a little weird because
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: they've reframed the story to take place around 1830. And
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: there's a massive cholera outbreak there. in Paris and Quasimodo, the,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: the hunchback, uh, it appears to be immune to cholera.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: So it has created this, uh, desire amongst some of
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: the learned in Paris to try and capture Quasimodo and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: experiment on him to determine what makes him immune to
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: cholera and how they could potentially save lives that way,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: essentially turning Quasimodo into a lab rat. Um, and another
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: interesting point in this is that Victor Hugo, who's the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: author who wrote the Hunchback of Notre Dame is a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: character in this movie. So he's, you know, the actual
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: guy who wrote the book is, is in there. Um,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Vincent Cassell is playing Quasimodo. It's the only named actor
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: that I recognized in there. Uh, this comes out on
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: November 27th on Netflix, uh, honestly, when it comes to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: adaptations that are taking like massive leaps away from the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: source material, stuff like this, I'm okay with in a way,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, all right, this is not trying to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: retell the story of Hunchback of Notre Dame. It's telling
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: a different story with some of the characters. Like there's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: clearly a Romani woman that Quasimodo is enamored of. Right.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: So similar to the story of Hunchback of Notre Dame,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: but otherwise it's, There are some drastic changes. I also
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: noticed that there was one character named Cosette, which makes
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: me wonder if it's supposed to be the Cosette in
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Les Miserables because that's also a Victor Hugo novel.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: That would be fun. That would be a fun little mashup.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's a crossover. I don't
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: know if we're getting the Hugoverse, the cinematic Hugoverse. But
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. It definitely looks like it's well-produced.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: It's in... It's subtitled, so unless you are fluent in
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: French or you don't mind subtitles, it might not be
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: for you. I haven't seen anything about any kind of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: critical reaction to this, so I don't know how well
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: people are receiving it. But I definitely thought it was
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: an interesting.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Idea.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: And for some reason, it didn't make me angry the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: way a lot of adaptations often do.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I've never been... I mean, it didn't make me angry.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of Hunchback of Notre Dame.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: I've never read the book. I've never watched any of
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the movies other than bits and pieces of the Disney.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I probably have seen the whole Disney movie by now,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: but I've never paid attention to it from beginning to end.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: But this looks well done.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen not the Disney one, but I've seen
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: other Hunchback movies, which obviously focus on the Hunchback as
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: a quasi monstrous and ultimately tragic figure. Although really from
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: what I understand, I have not read the novel. So
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: please take this with a huge grain of salt. My
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: understanding is the novel is really, really more about the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: cathedral itself. And Quasimodo is one element of the story
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: that gets played out over the course of the novel,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: which wouldn't surprise me. Cause if you ever read Les Miserables,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: like the full unexpurgated story, Lame is there are entire
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: chapters that are about the sewers under Paris and have
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with any of the characters that you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: have met so far. Like it's like the story takes
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: a break and it's so that Victor Hugo can one, uh, uh,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: create a character out of the city itself, uh, to
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: really talk about the history of that place. Three use
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: that city as kind of a metaphor for what's going on. culturally.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: And four, drive up the word count so he can
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: get paid more at the end of the day. I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: think that's the big one. And I think that's true
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: probably for Hunchback as well.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I'll tell you what, Hunchback's Earl of Paris
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: looks infinitely better than our next trailer, which is the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Angry Birds movie three.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Another Victor Hugo adaptation here. Not many people know
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: that Victor Hugo wrote Angry Birds one through five. And
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: we're just now getting up to three. That is obviously
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: a joke. All right, first, before we even get into this, Ariel,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: have you ever watched either of the other Angry Birds movies?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: No, I've played some Angry Birds, but it's been years.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I eventually got frustrated because I couldn't get past some
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: of the levels.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's my only exposure to Angry Birds
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: as well, is I played the smartphone game ages ago
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: where you slingshot birds at pigs. And that's as much
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: into the universe as I ever got. So much so
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: that I did not realize, I knew that there was
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: an Angry Birds movie. I did not realize there was
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: an Angry Birds 2, unless they've done something really subversive
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: and they went straight from one to three. And if
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: they did that, that's amazing. But Ariel's shaking her head
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: at me. So I think that means that they actually
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: did do a part two.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: They did. Could I tell you what either one or
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: two was about? No, but I know that there were
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: two of them.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure pigs were involved. Birds were flung. So
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: the premise here is that Red, which is voiced by
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Jason Sudeikis, and Silver, who's voiced by Rachel Bloom, so,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a big Bloom fan, are a couple.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: They've got three kids. They discover their world is an
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: existential crisis, and so they have to balance saving the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: world with keeping the family together. The voice cast is insane.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: It includes people like Danny McBride, Josh Gad, Tim Robinson,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Kiki Palmer, Lily James, and of course, Mr. Beast.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the same sentiments. The really interesting thing is
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: that Angry Birds 1 came out in 2016. Angry Birds
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: 2 came out in 2019. So that's a seven year
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: gap for this third movie. I'm surprised it still has legs, honestly.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you would figure that anyone who was fond
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: of the first two films has grown out of that
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: at this point. Maybe not. Maybe there's enough charm there
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: to continue being relevant, even to folks who are no
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: longer children at this point. This comes out December 23rd.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: When I watched that, I was like, this doesn't necessarily
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: look bad, but I have no desire to watch it.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, like adults maybe really like the
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Angry Birds movies. I don't know. It could be very clever,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: like Looney Tunes or something else like that. You know, Shrek,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: something that's got a lot of like really clever humor
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: in it for all ages. But this trailer did not
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: grab me that way. I'll skip this one. I also
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: think I'm going to skip the next next one, which
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: is Long Haired Businessman.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: So first off, I was not familiar with this before
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I started looking into the trailer. So I want to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: make sure. that I'm not just assuming this. Did you
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: know that Long-Haired Businessman was like a long-running YouTube series
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: of sketches out of Funny or Die?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely not, no. I sometimes watch Funny or Die,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: but they're never like series.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was like, it was sort of recurring characters,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: kind of the same way that SNL does recurring characters, right?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: And the gimmick here, like the long hair is never funny.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: addressed like that's just that's just one of the qualities
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: of the characters is that it's all these business people
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: mostly business men but also business women who have long
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: hair and it just so happens that they do it
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't have any impact on anything else it's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: just kind of like an absurd like component to the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: series really what the series is about is these middle
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: managers who just throw around jargon all the time, like
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: company jargon, and that's it, corporate jargon. So stuff like,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: we'll circle back to that. Let's have a dialogue and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: let's synergize and all that kind of stuff. All the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: things that make your skin crawl if you're ever in
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: a corporate business meeting. And people just start leaning heavily
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: on words that don't really mean very much, or they
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: could have easily said it some other way that wasn't
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: as what's a family friendly way of putting this gross.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: What aren't as gross. So I'm biased because I used
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: to work for human resources consultants who almost exclusively talked
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: in jargon and I hated it. So, When I saw this,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, they're lampooning corporate culture, but they're doing so,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: so effectively that I find it grating to even watch
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: the comedy sketches. Because even though I know they're making
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: fun of it, it's still too close to the real
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: thing for me to care. But I watched this trailer,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: and the trailer is about this company that employs these
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: long-haired businessmen. It's the same one that's been in their sketches,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: because I went back and watched a few of the sketches.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: And they're being bought out. by another company called Torrance Group,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: which is also a reference to the sketches. I found
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: a reference to Torrance Group way back from like, I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: think like 2015 or something. Anyway, their jobs are then
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: put at risk between a combination of things like younger
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: people who are quote unquote efficiency experts and AI that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: threatens to take over the middle management positions. So like
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I see the humor there, I get what they're coming
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: from and I get where the joke is. But none
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: of the stuff really landed for me as far as
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: like actual jokes in this trailer.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same, same. And I actually need to correct myself
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: because I have watched some Funny or Die series, but
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: only two that I am aware of. Drunk History used
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: to be a part of Funny or Die, though I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: came to it late and I didn't watch it straight
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: as it came out. And then under a rock with
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Tig Notaro apparently was also funny or die. And that
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: series was hilarious. But this one also did not grab me.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: It just, it's not my kind of humor. Yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, like it's not raunchy or anything. It's just, it's, it's,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: it's kind of got one joke, which is, you know,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: corporate culture is, is artificial. Like that's the joke, but
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: then you've got 83 minutes of that joke. I don't
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: think that joke can support 83 minutes personally. I don't honestly,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get through a full sketch of, from Funny
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: or Die. I tried watching it and I was just like, man,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I get it. I understand the joke. I don't need
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: this to go on any longer. But if this is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: something that appeals to you, if you find that funny,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: first of all, that's awesome. There's no judgment here. It
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: could just be a generational thing. This comes out November
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: 17th on digital. And that brings us up to our
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: final trailer, unless Ariel added something that I don't know about. Okay,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: final trailer of the show notes is which I'm going
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: to let Ariel take lead on because she's our Christmas girly.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: It is a trailer for the long awaited.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: The man with the bag.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: The first time I saw this on YouTube, I'm sorry.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to interrupt you, but like when I
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: saw this trailer on YouTube prior to it being in
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: our show notes, I actually skipped over it. And I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: thought it was called man bag. And I was a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: little sad that it was actually just the man with
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: the bag, but it makes more sense. And then I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: watched the trailer and it's man meet mountain has a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: little girl that he's trying to reconnect with. And Santa
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: played by Arnold Schwarzenegger needs him to do some naughty
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: stuff along with the elf Aquafina. And let me tell you,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: it was actually, it was actually really charming and I
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  Speaker 1: may want to watch this movie and I feel embarrassed
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  Speaker 1: to say that, but it's true.
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  Speaker 2: So first for those who are not familiar with, Manmeet
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Mountain is my nickname for Alan Richson, who's famously in Reacher.
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  Speaker 2: I call him Manmeet Mountain. Secondly, it is hilarious that
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  Speaker 2: you have a movie that has Arnold Schwarzenegger in it,
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  Speaker 2: and he's not the one you call Manmeet Mountain. Thirdly,
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  Speaker 2: Awkwafina's character, she is an elf whose name is Nadia Nice.
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  Speaker 2: So cute pun there. The basic premise here is that
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  Speaker 2: Nadia Nice has absconded with Santa's magic bag, his sack,
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  Speaker 2: in other words. And so there's a lot of jokes
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  Speaker 2: about that because, you know, that's mature. I shouldn't make judgments.
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  Speaker 2: It's silly stuff. And that's why Santa needs to employ
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  Speaker 2: the services of a thief. the thief's name is Vance.
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  Speaker 2: That's the character played by Alan Richardson. And he needs
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  Speaker 2: to impress Vance into his service in order to steal
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  Speaker 2: back the bag. Cause Santa can't do it. Cause he's,
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  Speaker 2: he's nice. He can't be on the naughty list, but
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  Speaker 2: Vance can totally do it for him, which apparently is like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: telling you that if you're a leader who commands a
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  Speaker 2: soldier to do a bad thing, you're absolved of all accountability.
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  Speaker 2: If you follow that logic. But anyway, Santa Claus has
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  Speaker 2: hired or coerced Vance into stealing his bag back. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: Nadia Nice is kind of exploring the world and feeling
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: what it's like to not be obligated to make presents
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  Speaker 2: or work for Santa. There are other awesome actors who
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: are in this. Jane Krakowski is in it. Ken Jeong
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: is also in it. And this comes out on December 2nd.
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  Speaker 2: on Amazon prime video. I thought it looked entertaining. It
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  Speaker 2: looks funny.
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  Speaker 1: So I got the synopsis largely wrong. Thank you, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 1: Despite all of that, I still think it looks charming
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  Speaker 1: and I still might want to see it. What about you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, you know, I, as much as I
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  Speaker 2: joke about it, it looks like it's entertaining. Like if
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  Speaker 2: I'm being brutally honest, cause we've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: like edgy to, to, uh, odd Christmas, uh, entries recently,
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  Speaker 2: things like the, um, Oh, the David Harbor Santa movies.
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  Speaker 2: What are those called again? Violent night. There's violent night.
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  Speaker 2: And then what was the one that had a Chris
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  Speaker 2: Evans and red one.
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  Speaker 1: And then there was also, where did we talk about it?
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  Speaker 1: It was like two weeks ago. There was also, um,
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  Speaker 1: three weeks ago there was also that really creepy one
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  Speaker 1: with the people from the statement christmas at the cringles.
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  Speaker 2: Right christmas at the cringles comes out this year but
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  Speaker 2: violent night the original violent night came out a couple
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  Speaker 2: years ago we're getting the sequel this year and then
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  Speaker 2: we got um a red one a couple years ago
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  Speaker 2: too like we've had like all of these sort of
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  Speaker 2: plays on santa claus in different contexts uh and i'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of like over it because i feel like I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: feel like everyone's struggling to find out what if we
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: do this with Santa Claus as a blank, like action star,
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  Speaker 2: horror star, that kind of thing. And I find it,
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  Speaker 2: I'm finding it a little tiresome, mostly because if I'm
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: being honest, it's not that the premise bothers me. It's
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  Speaker 2: just that the scripts rarely live up to the premise.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Like I thought red one was just okay. I thought
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  Speaker 2: the idea was interesting, but despite the fact that you
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: had some incredibly charismatic actors in that, it kind of
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  Speaker 2: fell flat for me. I still liked it more than
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  Speaker 2: I liked violent night, which I was hoping I would
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  Speaker 2: really like, but it just didn't quite work. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if the sequel is going to change that for me.
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  Speaker 2: This one, I think out of all the ones I've seen,
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  Speaker 2: I think the trailer I liked the most, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not convinced that it's going to hold together as a
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  Speaker 2: great movie. I'm willing to give it a shot since
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  Speaker 2: it is just coming to Amazon prime video and I'm
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: already a prime subscriber.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Same.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Same. If I'm bored during the holiday season, I'll watch it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be a good one to watch with in-laws.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: But that's all we got for today. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I got nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry. It's another short episode at
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  Speaker 1: like an hour 10. But, you know, that's how the
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Christmas cookie crumbles sometimes. It's not even Thanksgiving yet. I'm
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: not ready to go there quite yet. So, Jonathan, if
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: people want to reach out, how do they do that?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Well, what you're going to have to do if you
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: want to reach out to me is you have to
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: skip the month of November. You cannot do Thanksgiving at all.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: No Thanksgiving. You have to completely go past Thanksgiving. And
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: then you have to shout out to the heavens as
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: loud as you can. Nobody cares about Thanksgiving. If you
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: do that with your entire heart and soul, I will
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: answer your question. But you should know you'll be dead
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: to Ariel forever.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I can't talk to Jonathan until December.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: But if you want to reach out via conventional methods,
• 1:18:32
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• 1:18:36
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• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: In full honesty, I have not updated it recently. I
• 1:18:45
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• 1:18:49
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• 1:18:53
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• 1:19:03
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• 1:19:05
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  Speaker 2: And I have been Jonathan, there's a great big beautiful tomorrow,
• 1:19:21
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• 1:19:28
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