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Furness Show 11-21: Greg Cosell, Danny O'Neil, Rob Rang · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna struggle getting through this show, I think.
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  Speaker 4: But well, we'll do our best. Well, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 4: make bold pronouncements today, you know, just just for the
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  Speaker 3: That's what we do. And you you look fantastic, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, with a tie on today. You must have
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  Speaker 4: We did shoot the matchup show a little earlier today,
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  Speaker 3: You look good. I love it all right, Greg cosel
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  Speaker 3: with us. We teased this last week. We spent all
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  Speaker 3: that last week talking about the Rams Seahawks matchup, and
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  Speaker 3: Greg said, as we ended, I'm sure we'll spend some
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  Speaker 3: time talking about this game before we even get to
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee and Seattle, which I would think that will be
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  Speaker 3: the case. Let's do that right now, Greg, Why I'm
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess in a lot of ways an
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  Speaker 3: entertaining game. If you watch the Rams Seahawks last Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: you know, even whether Seahawks fan or Rams fan or
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  Speaker 3: just an NFL fan across the country, a two point
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  Speaker 3: game with four interceptions, Seattle still have a chance to
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  Speaker 3: win at the end. We'll get into specifics, but when
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  Speaker 3: you're watching that, and especially looking at the tape later,
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  Speaker 3: what kind of jumped out at you? Obviously the interceptions,
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  Speaker 3: but I know there's more to it than that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, it was a game where,
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  Speaker 4: quite frankly, those things did. Those plays matter a lot
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  Speaker 4: because I thought the Seahawks defense played very well for
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  Speaker 4: the most part. I mean, they really held down the
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  Speaker 4: Rams passing game, which had really been humming. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Stafford was efficient, but not really special in this game.
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  Speaker 4: There were a couple of runs by Williams. I think
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  Speaker 4: he had two longer runs, but other than that, and
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  Speaker 4: those count, don't get me wrong, but other than that,
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  Speaker 4: the run game was not a big factor. Look, the
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  Speaker 4: reality is the Seahawks controlled the football. They ran seventy
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  Speaker 4: nine offensive plays, and they controlled the ball for most
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  Speaker 4: of the game. The Rams not run that many plays relative,
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  Speaker 4: you know, what is normal in an NFL game. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they were only the other issue besides the interceptions, which
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  Speaker 4: was key. And you always have to look at all
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  Speaker 4: these plays individually, and you know that, and that's how
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  Speaker 4: I feel, whether it's interceptions, whether it's sacks, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: red zone And I was gonna make the point. The
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks were only one for four with the red zone
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  Speaker 4: t d efficiency and that turned out to be a
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  Speaker 4: defining factor in the game. They had had been sixty
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  Speaker 4: eight percent touchdown efficiency coming into the Rams game, so
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  Speaker 4: you know, those things really stood out. But I think
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  Speaker 4: their defense has been playing really well. Look, the Rams
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  Speaker 4: ran fifty offensive plays. That's it. So you know when
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  Speaker 4: when a team runs fifty offensive plays and they were
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  Speaker 4: only two for eleven or third down conversions. There was
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  Speaker 4: a lot of pressure in this game that the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: put on Stafford. They rushed five or more on almost
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  Speaker 4: half of his dropbacks, and the corollary to that was
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  Speaker 4: that they played a lot more man cover they played
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  Speaker 4: their highest percentage of cover one since the first week
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  Speaker 4: of the season. You know, these were all things I
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  Speaker 4: noticed watching the tape, because you know how I do it.
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  Speaker 4: I watched the tape and then I go look at numbers.
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  Speaker 4: I don't look at numbers first. I let the tape
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  Speaker 4: tell me what's happening, and then I go from there.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, these were all things I noticed watching
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  Speaker 4: the tape.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I you know, a lot of us here
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  Speaker 3: in Seattle kind of came away greg more encouraged even
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  Speaker 3: though they lost. So the NFL is a results based business.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you play seventeen games, it's about winning and losing,
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  Speaker 3: but there are is That's why we have guys like
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  Speaker 3: you on. That's why we have you on every Friday,
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  Speaker 3: or we have Hugh Millan on. Because the nuances of
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  Speaker 3: a game sometimes do tell you bigger picture stories, I think,
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  Speaker 3: and in this case, what you just said, that Seahawk
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  Speaker 3: defense holding them, the rams down, the third down conversion
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  Speaker 3: rate really low. Stafford, you know, throwing for less than
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  Speaker 3: two hundred yards. I mean, everything about that was good.
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  Speaker 3: The interceptions though, and I don't want to focus all
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  Speaker 3: on the quarterback, but we do need to talk about
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  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, then yeah, And I want to get to
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  Speaker 3: the red zone two and the red zone as well, Greg,
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  Speaker 3: because the red zone the narrative with Donald, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the big game stuff the two games last year, obviously
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  Speaker 3: the Lions in the Rams playoff game. But if I
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  Speaker 3: go back and you just you brought up red zone.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's an important part maybe where we start.
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  Speaker 3: We can get into the interceptions as well. But Greg,
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  Speaker 3: that was a problem in that Lions game, was it not?
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  Speaker 3: The red zone inefficiency with Donald in that offense last year.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if there were similarities to that or not,
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  Speaker 3: but you've got to score in the red zone.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think you know, again, you have to look
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  Speaker 4: at each one of those plays individually. Like I'll give
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  Speaker 4: you an example, like third and goal from the three
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  Speaker 4: yard line late in the second quarter. The Rams took
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  Speaker 4: away the play design with good defense. It was a
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  Speaker 4: two man route concept with a high low element. Cup
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  Speaker 4: Ran the shallow crosser, Arroyo the inbreaker at the back
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  Speaker 4: of the end zone. They took that away, and then
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  Speaker 4: what happened where Donald couldn't really get to anything else
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  Speaker 4: and there wasn't really much else to get to it
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  Speaker 4: was kind of a two man concept. It's the defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 4: Kobe Turner physically handled Zabel and he pressured Donald, forcing
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  Speaker 4: him out of the pocket into an incompletion. So you
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  Speaker 4: have to look at individual plays. There's usually not some
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  Speaker 4: thematic you know, overview people want to say, well, what's
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  Speaker 4: wrong with the team in the red zone or you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's usually not one thing that speaks to all this.
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  Speaker 4: You have to look at the plays. It's like the interceptions,
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  Speaker 4: and if there's any that stood out to you, I'd
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  Speaker 4: be happy to go over them. But you can't just
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  Speaker 4: look at, you know, at a stat I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: the cumulo stow was, hey, they were one for four
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  Speaker 4: in the red zone. The cuminalstaw was that Donold did
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  Speaker 4: throw four picks. So when you see that, I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: people maybe who didn't see the game, or or are
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  Speaker 4: just watching the game on TV at the same time
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  Speaker 4: they're talking to their friends or whatever. You know, they
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  Speaker 4: see these numbers and they think that, oh man, that's
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  Speaker 4: they're terrible in the red zone. Well, you got to
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  Speaker 4: look at the plays. And I've always believed that about
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  Speaker 4: pretty much everything. That's why I watched the tape. But
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  Speaker 4: that was just an example, you know, where the Rams
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  Speaker 4: took away what they wanted to do and then Zabel
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  Speaker 4: got handled by Turner and it resulted in incompletion and
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  Speaker 4: they had to kick a field goal.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a great way on that for
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  Speaker 3: a second, because that's as you said, look at the
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  Speaker 3: individual play, people will say, oh my gosh, what was
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  Speaker 3: Donald doing. You know, Donald throws an incomplete pass on
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  Speaker 3: third and goal and they got this opportunity and all
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  Speaker 3: that Zabel gets beat. The concept wasn't conducive to having
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  Speaker 3: success against that defense. What you're telling me is the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback in this case, Sam Donald really was kind of
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  Speaker 3: out of options right.
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  Speaker 4: On that play because they took it away and then
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  Speaker 4: because then of the pressure, he didn't really have much
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  Speaker 4: to do. He ran out of the pocket and you
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  Speaker 4: know he had to throw it away basically because you
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  Speaker 4: don't want to throw throw it. Obviously an interception in
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  Speaker 4: the red zone. But yeah, I mean that's you know,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, you have to look at these plays.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I thought, look, if you want to talk
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  Speaker 4: about a couple of interceptions, I'll be happy to. But again,
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  Speaker 4: those you have to look at, you know, you know
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  Speaker 4: how it is with Sam Donald, right, he throws four picks. Now,
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  Speaker 4: people are pretty much I'm sure at certain people, I
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  Speaker 4: never think like this because that's not the way I'm built.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I watched the tape, but I'm sure a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people are like, oh, Donald was dark in
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  Speaker 4: this game. You know, you have to look at the plays.
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  Speaker 4: You can't just you know, see four interceptions and assume that, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: Donald was terrible. You know, you have to you have
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  Speaker 4: to watch that stuff and see what happened.
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  Speaker 3: There were four of them. The jump the jump ball one,
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  Speaker 3: uh just was one of those plays he probably am
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  Speaker 3: sure a thousand times would want back. Maybe I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we don't look at that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know which the last one, yeah, the last
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  Speaker 4: one where he jumped, Yeah, yeah, that was just that
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  Speaker 4: was one where that was as bad a decision as
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  Speaker 4: a veteran quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, actually it was kitchen second interception in the third
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  Speaker 4: quarter that was that was just tough for Donald. The
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  Speaker 4: one that he tried to hit Royo. Seen you remember
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  Speaker 4: that one? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Which which?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, which which one kind of would you break
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  Speaker 3: down the most? Which one was? Maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: if if I want to say, you know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: really they're all his fault, I assume, But which one
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  Speaker 3: kind of jumped out at you? Which one was the best?
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  Speaker 3: With talking points? With all four?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I think there's two of them that I thought
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  Speaker 4: were really interesting. The first one was it was Donald,
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  Speaker 4: you know, did not handle that. Well, let's leave that
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  Speaker 4: one alone. But I thought that the Durant interception was
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  Speaker 4: was really an interesting play because what happened was it
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  Speaker 4: was a double stunt by the Rams. They stunned more
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  Speaker 4: than any team in the league. And what happened was
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  Speaker 4: as Young as the looper, and he got in clean
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  Speaker 4: through the B gap, so he put pressure on Donald
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  Speaker 4: and Durant. He just played the pressure. He anticipated that
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  Speaker 4: the pressure would get there, and so he did not
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  Speaker 4: really turn and run versus Smith and Jigba, and he
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  Speaker 4: sort of stayed and planted and jumped the outcut by
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  Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba. And that's a tough throw versus off
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  Speaker 4: coverage from the far hash. So it's a tough throw.
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  Speaker 4: And then as soon as he threw it, he just
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  Speaker 4: got drilled by Young. But you know, that's just one
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  Speaker 4: of those tough throws. Then the interception by Kitchens. That
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  Speaker 4: was the second one we're talking about now, on first
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  Speaker 4: and twenty in the third quarter. It was a bad decision,
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  Speaker 4: but I under you know, I try to understand what
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback's thinking. That's what I try to do. You
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  Speaker 4: never know for sure in because I don't know what's
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  Speaker 4: in his head, right, but you know, he tried to
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  Speaker 4: throw the bender to Arroyo. Okay, my guess is he
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  Speaker 4: thought it was Cover two, which it had a Cover
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  Speaker 4: two element to it, but the linebacker spades. What he
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  Speaker 4: did is he carried Arroyo. So normally in Cover two,
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  Speaker 4: the hook defender doesn't carry that seam, but he carried Arroyo,
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  Speaker 4: so he was basically on his hip. And the really
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  Speaker 4: cool part of that play if you're a defensive coach,
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  Speaker 4: was that Forbes, who was the outside corner, pushed the
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  Speaker 4: receiver and I forget who it was now, pushed the
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  Speaker 4: outside receiver to the sideline. And the reason that's important
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  Speaker 4: because Kitchens was a a half field Cover two defender.
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  Speaker 4: So because Forbes did what he did, Kitchens did not
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  Speaker 4: have to expand laterally to the sideline, worrying about the
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  Speaker 4: number one receiver getting vertical so he could stay right
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  Speaker 4: on his landmark inside and just be sitting there waiting
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  Speaker 4: for that throw. So, you know, Mike, I type, did
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  Speaker 4: Darnald think Spas would not carry our oio and that
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  Speaker 4: Kitchens would expand my guess as he thought both those
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  Speaker 4: things based on his sense of what cover two normally
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  Speaker 4: looks like. And neither one of those things happened.
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  Speaker 3: Greg. When it's all said and done again, we live
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  Speaker 3: in a world of you know, proclamations and declarations and
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  Speaker 3: narratives and everything else in sports, sports radio, sports fandom,
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  Speaker 3: sports commentary. Does everything you do is based on watching tape?
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  Speaker 3: So you've watched Sam Darnold tape now a lot for
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  Speaker 3: us this year and for others across the country. Does
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  Speaker 3: anything change in terms of your impressions of Sam Darnald?
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, I think, And again, is there any coach
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  Speaker 4: that would, you know, loves interceptions? Of course not, although
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  Speaker 4: I know coaches that are offensive minded and are aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: They they they're not okay with interceptions, but they understand them.
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  Speaker 4: And Darnold is an aggressive mindset thrower, and that's one
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  Speaker 4: of the things that makes him who he is and
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  Speaker 4: one reason why he's played extremely well the last two years,
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  Speaker 4: and you know you obviously want to channel that at times.
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  Speaker 4: You certainly want him to have an understanding of the coverage,
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  Speaker 4: but you don't want to take that away from him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to turn him into a
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  Speaker 4: guy that's risk averse because you know you've seen this year,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how many balls he pushes down the field
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  Speaker 4: and makes great throws. You know you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: take that's who he is now is every once in
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  Speaker 4: a while he's going to make a bad one or
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  Speaker 4: have a game like he did against the Rams, who,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, are I believe the second best defense
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  Speaker 4: in the National Football League and the best defense in
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  Speaker 4: the NFC and have really good players at all three levels.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, it's a really good defense and a
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  Speaker 4: really well schemed defense by Chris Shula, who's doing a
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  Speaker 4: terrific job. So it's not as if they were playing
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  Speaker 4: a bad defense. So you know, once in a while,
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks are aggressive. You know, Kurt Warner talks about this
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  Speaker 4: a lot. You know, we've had this conversation where you know,
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  Speaker 4: you talk about, you know, you want quarterbacks to be aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's you don't want them to not turn
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  Speaker 4: the ball loose. You know, I've always said Ian that
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  Speaker 4: there's not a metric with all the metrics that are
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: out there now, and some of them might and I'm
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: being honest, I don't even know what they mean. But
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: with all the metrics, there's no metric for balls that
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: should be thrown that aren't thrown. And you don't want
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: to be a quarterback that's not throwing balls that should
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: be thrown because that ends up hurting your offense a lot.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, Greg co sail brought to by Salessider
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: one of the things that did jump out of me
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: in that game. On a positive note for the Seahawk offense,
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: we've been you and I've been talking about this for weeks,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Hugh and I talked about it on Mondays as well.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Ken Walker got more touches and got more involved in that. Yeah,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and he got more involved in the passing game as
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: well than he has been all season long. Greg and
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I A lot of those are two really good signs
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: to see ken Walker get a lot more involve over
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: one hundred yards from scrimmag when it was all said
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: done and effective in both the passing and running game.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: And the reason I look we've talked about Kenneth Warker.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: We don't need to reiterate the same points that he
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: does have a tendency to bounce instead of hitting it out.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: But the point is he's an explosive player and he
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: brings an explosive element to your offense, and you want
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: that out there. I'm not saying there's no place for Sharboney.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I mean he's a tough physical runner, Sharbone. He doesn't
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: have any juice, but he's a tough physical runner, and
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: there's places for him in a game. But boy, you
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: really want Kenneth Walker to be out there, and you'd
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: love to see him get even more involved in the
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: past game because he's a space guy. When he gets
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: into space, you really see the juice that he has,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: and that adds another element because and of course we
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: would expect it's only been two games. Maybe the fans
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: are clamoring, but it's only been two games. But you
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: would expect Shaheed to become even more of a factor
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: as time goes on, and he certainly has the juice
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: and the ability to get vertical.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Well, they're going to do that today this weekend. On Sunday,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: they take on the Tennessee Titans. Boy, how about going
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: from one extreme to the other. You go from the
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams arguably the best team in the NFC,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: and right now they look like and see how maybe
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: number two, to be honest with you, but they go
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: now to an AFC team that is one in nine
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: coach issues issues all the way across. They do have
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: some guys up front defensively that might might be a concern,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: but boy, Tennessee, that's a heck of a drop off
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: in terms of what you're going to see competition level.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just one quick point. I mean you probably
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: remember the play where he just under threw literally by
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: a foot Shaheed on that fade route. That would have
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: been a touchdown. Y. You know, so in games like that,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: those things happen. You know, It's funny how they don't
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: happen when things are going great. You throw at that
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: extra foot in a game like that, you don't throw
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: at the extra foot and it's not a touchdown. But anyway,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what about Tennessee. I watched their tap
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: against Houston, and obviously you know Davis Mills. And by
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: the way, Davis Mills is an NFL quarterback he's not
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: just one of those bad backups. He's an NFL quarterback.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: But Tennessee last week against Houston, they were as aggressive
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: with blitz and pressure as they've been all season. Denard
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Wilson is their DC. He would like to be aggressive.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: He hasn't been much this year because my senses. He's
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: worried about his corners because that's probably a weakness in
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: their defense. But they were super aggressive last week and
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: they played really good defense. And they've got Jeffrey Simmons,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: and Jeffrey Simmons you'll see this week he's a man's
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: man now. I mean, this guy is really a good player.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: You know, they don't really do they have great players
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: on defense other than Simmons. No, they've got some solid players.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: They played the rookie Kevin Winston, the safety from Penn State,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: first time. He started and played every snap, and I
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: think he's going to be a good player. You'll notice
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: in me. And because he's long, he's athletic, he's interchangeable.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: He can play in the back end, he can play
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: in the box. He's physical, he's competitive. You'll notice him
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: on the field. But you know, Tennessee doesn't score very much.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Right now, and they'll struggle to score against this team. Look,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Tennessee's playing with a rookie quarterback, rookie receivers, a rookie
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: tight end, almost no run game, and an O line
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: that has not played at all up to its pedigree,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: not at all.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: What do you see from cam Warden?
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: You know, I kind of like cam ward I think
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: that he still needs to understand the speed of the
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: NFL game. You know, you where you are, you probably
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: see a ton of college football, and you know you
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: have for years, and the game is just different. And
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: you know, for instance, when he drops back, it's too leisurely.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, he needs to get get back, plant that
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: foot and get ready to throw it. You know, he
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: just needs to pick up his pace in sort of
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: everything he does. But he makes some throws where you go, oh,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: that's an NFL throw now, And I thought early in
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: the season he was chasing plays. You know, he's trying
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: to make throws that you know, I'm sure he made
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: at the University of Miami and you probably remember Hi
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: from Washington State. You know, he is an aggressive thrower.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: He moves, he tries to make plays. But you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: in this league, you can't chase plays. You've got to
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: take the plays that are presented, and you know, I
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: think that's something he's still learning as well. I'm going
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: to be so anxious because I happened to do radio
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: with Tennessee as you may know in Nashville. I'm so
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: anxious to see who they hire as a coach because
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot there with cam Ward and
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I think you almost have to start from scratch a
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: You said that the offensive line hasn't lived up to
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: his pedigree, So is that offensive line? Is there something
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: there they just haven't fulfilled their potential? Like I mean,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: is there pieces to build around cam Ward?
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, they drafted JC Latham, whose college tape
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I thought was great coming out of Alabama, and he
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: played left tackle last year as the rookie and was
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: not very good. So they moved him back this year
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: to his normal right tackle spot and paid a lot
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: of money for Dan Moore from Pittsburgh. And Latham has
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: not been good and Moore has not been good. You know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: they're not very good in one on one pass protection,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: so you know when you're not good, And even Christian Berry,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: who they signed from Denver, you know, missed most of
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: last year with it. I believe in Achilles was it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: He's not been as good. I hadered to hear just
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: randomly a press conference where he even said, you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I haven't been very good. I mean they haven't been
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: very good, you know. So it's that also places a
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: tremendous burden on cam Ward. But they just they just
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: have not lived up to what was expected.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: All I know is I expect excellence from Greg Cosel
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: every Friday at one o'clock, and I get every Friday
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: at one o'clock. I get excellence. I get nothing short
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: of excellence. Even without Jessman here, we still got through
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: this today. Greg. How about that?
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, by the way, it was very anxious against
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: just one quick point. I was very anxious against the
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: thirteen personnel that the Rams played. And obviously they played
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: a few fewer snaps because they only had fifty offensive
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: snaps total, but they still played about forty percent of
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: thirteen personnel with three tight ends. The Seahawks kept em
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: and Oriy on the field and played big Nickel. So
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: he's not going to come off the field, and nor
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: do I think he should.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: No, Eman arr Is a ton of fun to watch.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I just it's and I can't wait. You know, they'll
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: play without Julia Love, which is I think it's a
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I know Ocad has played okay at times, but Julian Loves.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: He's a pro bowler, right Like, They're going to get
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: better when they get him back here in a week
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: or two. So, and it is interesting. There's some guys
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: that kind of are holding out. Zabel's okay, by the way,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: so you know he avoided We all kind of thought
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the worst like that just screamed ACL when he got
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: rolled up on there. But it looks like Zabel's gonna
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: be okay. Christian Haynes will replace him, and we'll see
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: what happens. By the way, I'm giving you the week
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: off next week, at least next Friday off because we're
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: off the air next week, so we'll talk to you
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: in two weeks.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: How's that you're up the air next week? I mean,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: what am I going to do?
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: Ian?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, you've talked to a zillion people across the country.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: You're not going to miss little old kJ R and Seattle.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I know that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I look forward to talking with you every week.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Come on, man, I appreciate that. I do appreciate that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I'll just say this, have a great holiday. I know
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: we'll all be watching football. You'll be watching tape like
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: you do twenty four to seven, but the rest of us,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: the rest of us will have a glass of wine
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: watching football, and I'll think of my friend great co
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Sel looking good and got his Thanksgiving best on today
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: watch the matchup show on ESPN, And of course we
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: thank you so much. Big thanks to Seattle Cider as well.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And we will talk to you in two weeks time.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Greg, all right, Ian, thanks, have a great holly, talk
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: to you soon.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: That is great Cosal, the great, great Cosal. We'll take
• 23:11
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  Speaker 3: All right, here we go, Danie O'Neill joining us on
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  Speaker 3: a Friday afternoon. Dang apostrophe, the best damn sports writing
• 23:52
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• 24:00
  Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm one of one.
• 24:02
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• 24:05
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• 24:05
  Speaker 3: That's why we have you on every week. My friend,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: all right, let's get to it. Uh, we've all had
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: a wee, you know, five days to kind of soak
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: it all in. What happens. Seahawks lose and heartbreaking fashion.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: We see Sam Donald throw the four interceptions, et cetera.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Some thoughts, some takeaways. A few days later, my friend.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Well, I hope everybody has has sort of moved away
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: from the panic about Sam Darnold because I actually think
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: that while that game certainly showed sort of the worst
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: possible performance he can have, and I do think that
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: there are issues when he gets under pressure, they played
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: so well that, I mean, even with the four interceptions,
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: if not for one of the best punts I've ever seen,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: I really think that the Seahawks win that game. So
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: I know, I know that the temptation was to say,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: oh man, I know that the temptation is to feel like, man,
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: the clock strikes midnight and he's gonna turning to a pumpkin.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: But I really think that you survived or showed that
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: you're right there with one of the very best teams
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: in the NFL, even when he had one of his
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: worst games. I don't think he's going to play that
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: bad again for the Seahawks this year.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: No.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: We just had great Cosell on a moment ago and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: he kind of walked through it. There's a couple of
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: plays where you know, play design was bad in the
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: red zone and you know the one, I mean the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: one play Bradford just got blown up. He missed a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: stunt and ends up going over to help Lucas who
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: didn't need help. And you know, there was things like
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that that happened along the way, and I chalk it
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: up to two really good teams that went toe to toe.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Danny.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I mean, it's it's weird
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: we come with the NFL is about results. We all
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: get that, but like there's a lot of things in
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that game that could have happened when we come away going,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: oh boy, maybe they're not as close as we thought
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: they were. I came away, and I think most people
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: in this market came away pretty positive. One was all
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: said and done.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the way I feel that in those sort
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: of showdowns you can have results. I remember watching when
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks played the forty nine ers on Thanksgiving a
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: couple of years ago. You saw this dramatic demonstration of Okay,
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Seahawks aren't in the same category, they're not in the
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: same class. Ye, this wasn't one of those games at all,
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: and I recognize. I think there's still some uncertainty. Is
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Sam Darnald your long term quarterback. I'm not sure about that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: I think it's more likely now than I did at
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: the beginning of the season, because I think he's played
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: really well for most of the year. When he is
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: under pressure, he can tend to make some bad decisions.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: We certainly saw two of those, the one where he
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: threw off his back foot and the other jump pass.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Those were two terrible decisions made under pressure. But there's
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: nothing from that game that makes me feel like, oh man,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: like the Seahawks just they might make the playoffs this year,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: but that's that's as much as they can expect. They
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: played really well, and that punt they must win if
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: not for that stupid punt. That's stupid. Hit the ground
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: at the two. Was it six inches from hitting the pilon?
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: It hits the pilon, It comes out to the twenty.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: Stupid freaking punch.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: And the funny thing is like the officials kind of
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: gave Seattle a break because they could have put it
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: on the one inch line, like they put it on
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the half yard line. I mean, it literally was on
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the half inch line. It's it's might be more difficult
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: than a hole in one, Like you could kick that
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: same punt a hundred times and probably never ever have
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: that same result. You could hit a golf ball if
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that was a golf hole, and you could probably roll
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: it in there more often from one hundred from the
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: same I mean, it's just that was what was remarkable
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It was. It was the best worst
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: punt I've ever seen. Yeah, most impressive, most devastating, Like,
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: how the hell did that happen? I didn't think of
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: it until now, but you really could have you could
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: have had almost the entire ball in the end zone
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: and just the nose boop over the end of it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Hugh Miller jack Mount Sie High School.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Oh God, oh god, Well did we just go back
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: to the Notre Dame game? Is that what we just did?
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: It's still it's still one of my favorite things that
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: anyone in Seattle sports radio has ever done, which was
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: you getting out of tire Jack to demonstrate quite accurately
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: the distortion that camera angles can by.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Was it Chris Polk? Is that who the running back was?
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what it was. It was two thousand and nine,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: and it was right before because I went to that
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: game at Notre Dame and then I drove with Condoda
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: to Indianapolis, which is where the Seahawks were playing in
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: More's year.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: What a weekend? What a week What a weekend? What
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: a weekend? Buddy?
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Does it get much better than that? Holy cow.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: Jumada. When Condoda went to ask him a question in
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: the locker room, actress, they said, Bob, my name is Bob.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: I worked for the Seattle It doesn't matter who you are,
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: just asked you a question.
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• 29:15
  Speaker 3: down this road. There was there was some really really
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: unlikable Mariner teams about that same time. Any team that
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: had Richie sexon and what was that dufist that played
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: first base, Chris uh Casey Kotchman, you know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Was not likable was pretty I.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Mean, but Dard was one of the biggest asses ever.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, there were some really really unlikable Mariners teams
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: in that era. Just everything about him was unlikable. I'm
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: not sure if there was a more unlikable team than
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: the nine Seahawks with if you have TJ that would
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: have been our guy would have been there. Dion Branch
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: was still there right more as the coach. Let's just
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: go through the list. What a miserable group of whop
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and you.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: Know the the huge contract, Yeah, the black card. Yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: there was there were some tough things. Now, I stayed
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: friends with Aaron, and I think Aaron, He's here the
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: world a lot differently now. But yeah, that was that
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: was a tough year. In terms of personalities.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: My favorite guy was Lawrence Jackson low jack Uh. He
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: from USC who Pete didn't want on his team when
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: he got there, and he couldn't understand why is because
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you suck, That's why Pete didn't. He barely tolerated you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: in college. Fella like I, oh my god, he I've
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: never had never sin never before, never since. I'm trying
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: to think maybe I had a problem. Oh yeah, you
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: b y, you had a problem at by you. But
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: that's b Yu. That's different. That team between Dion Branch
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: and Lawrence Jackson, guys that actually listened to the radio,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: watched the TV shows, our postgame shows, and all had
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: a problem with everything that was said about them. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Dion Branch didn't like me, he said some stuff on
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: the air, and then Lawrence Jackson came up to me
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: in the back of the Seahawks meeting room, Danny and
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: was like something about like I had said something about
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: him not performing up to you know, being a first
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: round pick and something. And I think it was when
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: right when Pete got highed to go. I wonder if
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: he's going to keep this guy around even though he's there,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: because he didn't he was a first round defensive end
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: that didn't get sacks. Danny, and he came up and
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: was like, in my face, I'm like, buddy, if you're
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: worried about me, you got bigger problems. Fella. Like what
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: an unlikable group of people?
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah? That that is one of the telling signs is
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: when guys tend to fixate on the criticism that they're receiving. Yep,
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: it's because they don't they don't know how to handle
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: they don't know how to handle that sort of scrutiny
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: because if you're fixated on what people are saying, like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: that's really one of the least demanding parts of being
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: a professional football player. And usually you're trying to find
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: an outlet for the emotions that come from not being
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: able to do the job. And there are times that
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: guys get mad for good reasons.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Right or you're able to work through them.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: But when it's people just just just if if you're
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: spending a ton of energy in that direction, it usually
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: does not point to positive things going in your future.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about TJ, who's yourself? I mean, yeah,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: condona just a very threatening and confrontational guy. That's that's
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: really the guy you want to just go rip on.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Like the the nicest, most professional guy. And then I
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: remember that TJ had printed out huge stats to read
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: them on that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there were there were some crazy days that That
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: might have been the craziest day in Seattle sports radio
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: history was when the Wide Receivers show turned into.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Complaints and a dissection on the air of what two
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: man coverage was.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: It was quite incredible.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Uh so good TJ. You're just a piece, all right,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: ro quick frou of all the things that happened this week.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Just a quick thought on Josh Naylor resigning. It's a
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: nice sign for the Mariners.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: It was a huge thing. And look, they needed to
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: resign him. And to me, what says more than anything
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: else was this was not a wait and see what
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: the market is. This was not a he's a he's
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: a piece we'd like to have back and we'll see
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: how things go. This was a we're elbowing our way
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: to the front of the line. We want him, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: he's going to stay a Mariner. And I don't. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: don't want to go I don't want to fall over
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: myself complimenting the Mariners, because that's what they should have done.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: That's what a responsible baseball team does. Like Chris Rock says, like,
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: you don't get credit for taking care of your kids,
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: like you're supposed to take care of your kids. Don't
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: get credit for staying. You're supposed to keep a guy
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: like that. He's a contact hitter in the middle of
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: the order in a lineup that strikes out a time,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: and he's a guy that liked hitting in Seattle. And
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I'm just really grateful that the Mariners did exactly what
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: they should do. That carry Depoto was the budget that
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: he needs to go elbow his way to the front
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: of the line and retain a guy. And I hope
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: they're not done, but I was just I was really
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: encouraged by that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I was to you and I share the same thought.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It's yes, you should resign them. It's a good sign.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: If you didn't, it would have been catastrophic. But I'm
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: not going to quite you know, throw too many bouquets
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: your way just yet, because you had to do that,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: and they did do that, so good for them. Tell
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: folks about the day apostrophe, sir.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: It does come out of New York. Once a week.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: You go to Danny O'Neil dot com. You enter your
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: email address, and then I send you emails each and
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: every week, sometimes with inane references to pass Seahawks teams
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: like the twenty nineteen. Maybe I will look at the
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: least likable teams that I've ever been around. Sean Diggins
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: makes that list. Oh well, Sean sehn Diickins is on
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: that list.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: That sounds fun. Oh, Sean, yes, right, it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Might be the most miserable dude that I've ever been around.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: It's possible that Sean Figgins is the most miserable pro
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: athlete that I've ever been around. Rick Brunson comes close,
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: but I think it might be sicking.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Shoan Figgins is right there. Yeah, he'd be right up
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: there with the rest of them. All right, I'll look
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: forward to that. We're off Friday next week. Got an
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: NFL game on, So I'll talk to you two weeks time.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: My friend, have a great Thanksgiving you too. That's Danny O'Neill.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: We love having them on every Friday. Thanks in Northwest
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• 36:08
  Speaker 3: point three KJR I Krack winners last night. We told
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: you about that in the headlines. Huge win. They come
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: from behind, get the win in the third period late
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: to a wait to go goal by Jayden Schwartz to
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: eighteen to go. I think it was Jayden short scored
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: so in the final three minutes held on for the win.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Nice important two points or one and one Now in
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: the four game road trip next week. Great comeback next
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: up there in Pittsburgh tomorrow take on side Kid Crosby
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: and the Pittsburgh Penguins. That game at four o'clock Pacific time,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: three thirty pre game Mike Benton will be on the
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: pre game wonder if he's here. Is it the thirty
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: two or is he at? I wonder. I would assume here, okay,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: but I don't know for sure. And they'll get you
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: going then early game on Sunday, right after the Seahawks
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: are over. Two o'clock start for the Islanders and the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Cracking to wrap up the road trip. Also here on
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: k Actually, tomorrow's game would be a nine to fifty games. Yes,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: it is on nine to fifteen because we have a
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Husky game. Correct. Two other quick notes from hockey. First
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: of all, you heard it in the Sarah with finally
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: something relevant Sarah Spain thing Sale Torrent to PWHL team
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: starts tonight. First game is up in Vancouver against the
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Golden Eyes. The two expansion teams will get going there
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: at the P and E Pathific Colisseum up there. Their
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: first home game for the Torrent is a week from today,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Black Friday at Climate Pledge Arena. Okay, And just a
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: cool note, I think this is awesome because I got
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: to know the kid, a little bit kid young man,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: a little bit Thomas Millich, who was a goaltender for
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the Sale Thunmbers and they won the title a couple
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: three years ago. Yeah, got passed over in the draft
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: two times before. Finally he got drafted as a nineteen
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: year old. And when he did, he got picked in
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the fifth round by the Winnipeg Jets only because they
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: won the title. The Seattle did and he went to
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I think he liked Canada. The World Junior Championship too,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: or at least a silver one. He meddled some way,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: had a great year, but he was too small, got
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: drafted late, spent some time in the East Coast League
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the jungle. That's where people like Mike Benton go and
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: hang out and hone their craft. Absolutely, I say that
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: if you haven't been in the jungle, you haven't been anywhere. Baby.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: He's in the East Coast League and in the American League.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: He got called up today by Winnipeg. He'll make his
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: NHL debut sometime soon, which is a really cool story. Yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: a good netminder, worked his ass off and kind of
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: a long shot to make it. Thomas Hellibuck put on
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the injured list today. Connor Hellibuck, Connor Hellibuk, What did
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I say? Thomas Thomas thirty two bar and grill to
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Morley Captain tells me they're at the thirty two.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, that means he's hungry. It does, it really does.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Much like Thomas Millich, the captain is an alum of
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the Jungle the East Coast Hockey League, so good for him.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Kind of like at some point NHL team's got to
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: have to start figuring stuff out. Okay, because Dustin Wolf
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: and only Hutson had a great year last year. Celebrating
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: all that, Dustin wolf could have easily been the Rookie
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: of the Year in the NHL last year. Has been
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: great this year though his team sucks. His team does. Yes,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I don't put a lot on that. I know. I
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: know what I saw last year. Dustin Wolfe's good goal
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: tend very good and he got drafted late because wait
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: wait for it, he was also short. Yeah, get out
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: of Everett Silver Tips.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at one of the best goalies in
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: the league that is generating a lot of trade interest.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: YUC Sorrows is below six feet tall, yes, or he
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: six feet exactly?
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I think, So what's the commercial he does? No no goals,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: no goals, no goals. You don't have financial goals juice,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: no goal goals, no goals. So good lead into a juice.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: That's a good point. All right, that's it for the
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• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: The Kracking are the Tiber home that I don't wonder
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: if they're home tonight? There go go go check them out.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: All right, it's go funding dubers. Well, there's no hockey
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: this weekend, baby, because we got the Krackerer out of town. Right,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: PWHL team out of town? What's today today? The twenty first? Yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: they're at home. Yeah, let's go Victoria tonight. All and
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: our favorite team is in town tomorrow now to Showere Center, Regina.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Oh god, the Regi Pats, Regiana Pats who played there
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Berkele Katto, he played Spokane Connor Bdard Convent Dre and
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: you know who his teammate was, Ryker Evans. There you go, Regina.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: They got Victoria tonight, Regina tomorrow. Go out and check
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: out the t Birds out of show Where Center. Go
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: support those guys as well. Why do I think seea
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: how's a guy from Regina on their system? Oh you
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: said evens No, but somebody there right now? I probably wrong.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Okay, we're good. Uh, Robber angs standing
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: by it. We'll talk USC Oregon and all the other
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: big games this weekend in college football coming up next.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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• 40:42
  Speaker 3: And that I was back to by Frostbrew cors. I
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• 40:46
  Speaker 3: third period, three to the final over the Blackhawks. Next
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: up tomorrow over an nine to fifty on the AM dial,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: They'll take on the Pittsburgh Penguins. Third of three straight
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: or four straight on the road. That's because the Huskies
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: are playing tomorrow afternoon against the UCLA Bruin down in
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. Right here on niney three
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• 41:06
  Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning. Try to provide a little bit
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of a spoiler. I don't think JMU has much of
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: a chance for the college football playoff. They think they do.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Should be a fun game the way we go. Seahawks
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: injury report, The final one is out officially, Tory Horton out,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Tyrese Knight out questionable, Ernest Jones, Robbie Oots, Kenneth Walker
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: and Gray Zabel. Walker's a new injury limited participation with
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: a glut injury. Zabel listed as questionable, which is good news.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: If nothing Elseley Walker is maintenance related. Okay, good to
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: hear and Isabel, that's just good news. Bigger picture probably
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: don't know. Yes play. Okay, let's see what else we
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: got going on. PMHL season starts to night Torrent's first
• 41:43
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• 41:46
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• 41:49
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  Speaker 3: All right, here we go on a Friday afternoon, final
• 42:07
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• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I mean a massive weekend in college football, and that
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: means one thing. Our guy, Rob Rang joined us from
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• 42:19
  Speaker 3: a lot in the spring, of course, leading up to
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: the draft. Also happens to work for the BC Lions. Condolences, Rob,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I know that you guys are hoping to get to
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: the Great Cup fell a little short, but nice season
• 42:29
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• 43:06
  Speaker 3: how are you.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: I'm doing very well.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. We got a weekend to talk about,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: we got names to talk about as well. I want
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: to I want to do this if I can. At first,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I will get to some games in a second. But
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: one of the things that that is going to be
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: interesting this year is you know who has the number one?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Pick Sea actually taking on one to nine Tennessee this weekend.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: And that's a team that's frankly, you know, I'm not
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: sure about uh, they're bad, but they already have a
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: quarterback they draft at number one that you know overall
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: last year in cam Ward, quarterbacks are always talked about
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the top of a draft. The quarterbacks in this year's draft,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: this year's quarterbacks, how would you describe them? And I
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: guess I don't know if they're led by Mendoza out
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: of Indiana, but how would you describe the quarterbacks in
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: this year's draft?
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Frankly disappointing, you know. And there was so much hype
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: about this year's quarterback class, you know, starting off with
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: with Arch Manning, you know, which was a little bit
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: premature just because of the last name and the flashes
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: that we had seen a year ago. But you know,
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's a pretty underwhelming class overall. I mean,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: certainly Fernando Menoza for Indiana. I mean, the statistics are remarkable,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: but when you really watch him on Tapian, there's a
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: lot of the throws that he has been asked to
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: make just don't translate that well to the NFL. He's
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: got a good arm, not an elite arm, he's got
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: good mobility, and he is a leader, but he's kind
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: of a quiet, you know, soft spoken kind of a guy,
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: and so there's there's concerns about him as a as
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: a as a quarterbacks that can really take a team
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: over the top. And that's of course what you're looking
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: for at number one overall. And I think that Frankly
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: saw the same same type of situation a year ago.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: Cam Ward, of course why ends up jumping all the
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: way to number one overall, But I mean he played
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: such a backyard style of football. The Saks are going
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: to see it up close and personal, of course this weekend,
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: and that hasn't translated very well to the NFL. He
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: got six touchdowns in the first ten games, six interceptions
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: the first ten games. It has taken more sacks, and
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: a lot of these sacks are on him, not just
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: on his offensive line, but he's taking more sacks than
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: anybody else in the NFL. Leads the NFL in fumbles,
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: you know, with eight. So again, I think there's there's
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: some teams out there that might normally be thinking about
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: gaining a quarterback create Bland Brown's New York Jets among them,
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: that are now a little bit gunshy, I think at
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: the quarterback position because again we just we're seeing underclassmen
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: are creating some buzz Tys Simpson Alabama, Dante More at Oregon,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: but when you really break them down on tape there,
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: you know, you see flashes, but you don't see a
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: guy who is definitely, you know, a future NFL signal
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: called that. As a general manager, you'd be willing to
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: put your job on the line for. So the need
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: is so strong that some teams are going to just
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: roll the dice in the first round. But at the
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: same time, and this is not a quarterback class that
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: I would be willing to take my reputation on.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. And that leads us in Rob Brank
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: joinings Chrusy froespizzafroizpizza dot com. That leads us into the
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: games this weekend. Let's start with Missouri Oklahoma. John Mattier
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: got all the headlines in the offseason for the Sooners.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, to me, has been let I mean, I
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: know they're doing well, the ranked number eight, but that's fine.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: You look at the numbers, they're not there. I mean
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: the stars on the Sooners team. If I'm not mistaken
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: or a couple of guys on the defensive line like
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Grayson Halton, Taylor Wine are Mason Thomas. Same thing with
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: the Tigers. They got some dudes on the defensive line.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming that's where the star power is in that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Game, no question about it. I mean, just real quickly
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: on Dahnmetier, I mean, he is an intriguing guy. I mean,
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it. I mean, but the statistics
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: this year are terrible when you comparison to what he
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: did a year ago in Washington State. I mean considering
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: that as a passer and as a runner combined, he
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: had forty four touchdowns, you know, a year ago, and
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: this season, you know, I think he has He's thrown
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: for eight, you know. I mean, it just is a
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: far cry from what he did a year though. That said,
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: you know, he does have that frame, six foot one
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: turning twenty four pounds. I mean, he is just a
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: rock solid build. He's got that dual threadabilding and I
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: was mentioned before, what Mendoza. Some people are kind of
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: turned off by his kind of quiet, calm demeanor. Materier,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: on the other hand, it does have a little bit
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: of charisma to him, and some scouts that are going
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: through Norman are really intrigued by what he offers in
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: that way. That said, still, I think we're talking about
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: a Day two selection rather than a top five selection,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: the way that a lot of people were, you know,
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: kind of projecting him as based off the success he
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: had a Washington And you're absolutely writing in this particular
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: game Missouri at Oklahoma, the talent is all along the
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: lions screams for both teams. Oklahoma's got a lot of
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: young talent along their offensive line, so I'm not focusing
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: more on Missouri's offensive line and then the defensive line
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: for both teams. But for Missouri. You know, we've talked
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: before about the University of Utah and their two tackles
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: Spencer Fano and Caleb Lamu, who are probably the best
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: offensive tackles number one two, uh, you know, bookend tackles
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: and all of college football. But at the same time,
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Missouri is no joke.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: There.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: There's left tackle Caden Green. He's just a baby. I mean,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: he just turned literally turned twenty one just this week,
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: but he is. He's a former big timer crew who
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: actually started his college career at Oklahoma. So this is uh,
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: you know, kind of a you know, a game that
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: he is certainly going to be looking to produce do
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: well against for his former team, the Sooners. But he
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: played left guard as a true freshman at Oklahoma, came
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: to Missouri a year ago, moved to left state at
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: left guard, and then has moved outside to left tackle
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: this year. He's six foot five, he's three hundred and
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: twenty four pounds, he's got long arms, he plays his
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: excellent knee band and natural power. Still just a really
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: young player, but you can see that he is a
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: player that his best football is ahead of and if
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: he were to come out early, even as just a
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: right shirt sophomore, he's got future. You know, he's got
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: first round pick all over him. And then on the
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: right side, you've got Keegan Tross, a right tackle who
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: I personally think might be better off moving inside to
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: guard in the NFL. He's an older player. This is
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: going to be a theme we're gonna be talking about
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: all day long today, and is that he's a guy
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: who's transferred. In this case, he's transferred three times, actually
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: four times, Morgan State, Indiana State, Wake Forest, and now
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: this past season at Missouri, six foot four, three hundred
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: and sixteen pounds. He's really creative guy. He's got good
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: upper body strength, he's just savvy as you expect of
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: a player who is from a playing it feels like
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: for a decade at the college level. He's going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: be twenty five years old. He turns twenty five the
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: week before the draft, and that's going to push him
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: down the board a little bit. But for my money,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: this is the guy that you can kind of get
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: with a discount because of his age. And I still
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: think screens NFL starter right out of the box. To me,
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: he's one of those kind of guys you can probably
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: steal in like the third round, even though the tape
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: says he should be a second round pick. So again,
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: there's some terrific players for the offensive line for Missouri,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: but defensive line, I'm kind of, you know, bearing the lead,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: so to speak. The defensive line is really where it's
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: at for Missouri.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: And it's funny because you know, as you all know,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: I've been looking at high school here and so the
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: kids like to say at six to seven, all I
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: hear all day long, sixty seven. Well it's seven eighty
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: nine at Missouri. When it comes to the defensive line,
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: they are just absolutely loaded. Number seven, just to go
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: in numerical order, the big defensive tackle, Chris McClellan six
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: foot four, three d and twenty three pounds, and he's
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: just he's almost a combination of you know, Leonard Williams,
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: and that's Leonard Williams is It's harder to compare anybody
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: to LARRD Williams, but just his size, he's got such
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: broad shoulders and long arm. And then it was the physicality,
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: the toughness of a Jaron Reed. Just a really good
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: player that doesn't have a lot of great statistics, but
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: he is a good football player inside that. I think
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: he's going to be probably a mid round selection because
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: the two edge rushers opposite him are the ones getting
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: all the attention. Number eight, Damon Wilson is the speedier
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: edge rusher of the bunch. He's kind of pass for
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: a specialist and he played at Georgia a year ago.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: You mentioned all these transfers. Chris McClellan, number seven, the
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: guy before he played at Florida transferred over. Damon Wilson,
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: the edge rusher that's speedy. He played at Georgia a
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: year ago, and then Zion Young on the opposite a
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: number nine. It's probably my favorite player of the bunch,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: just because of the physicality and the length that he offers.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: He is long and it looks lean.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: But he plays with great power at the point of attack,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: really strings out runs very nicely. Not necessarily as good
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: of a pass rusher, but at the same time he
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: is very good as a run defender. This makes big
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: plays at big moments. Reminds me a little bit of
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: former Seahawk, former number one overall pick Todeveon Clowney. I
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: don't think the Zion Young is going to wind up
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: being a first round selection, but at the top of
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: the second round, maybe mid point second round. He is
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: the guy that just plays the game the way you're
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: supposed to play it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Is Rob Raank joining us courtesy of Farelli's Pizza. All right,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: let me get to speaking to not one to bury
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: the lead. I mean, I think the probably the most
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: important game this weekend Number fifteen USC number seven Oregon
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: elimination game for college football playoff USC holding on to
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: life support. In that regard, Oregon maybe has some wiggle room,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: but I kind have doubted if they lose at home.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Speaking of quarterbacks, I don't think we've talked about Jordan
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Miyam a lot this year for USC. Let's start there.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting because you mentioned the m scout with
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: the BC lines and so here I was thinking that
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: maybe I had a player because there's not a lot
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: of people who are focusing on the UNLV running rebels
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: and that's where Jordan Mavla kind of started his career.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: Just the improvement that he has shown this season with
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Lincoln Riley, it really is pretty remarkable. You know, he's
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: got eighteen to six textdown interception ratio. You saw flashes
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: of it back when he was at UNLV, but certainly
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: not the precision passing that we have seen so far
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: this season. He's always had the paratypical height and weight
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: six four two hundred and thirty pounds, and it certainly
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: helps when again, you have Lincoln Riley calling plays and
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: working with you. You know, he's a quarterback whisperer with
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: what he has been able to do with some of
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks he's worked with in the past, but to
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: have receivers like Mackay Lemon and Jacoby Lane, it's you know, again,
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: I'm using some kind of grandiose comparisons here. I mentioned
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Leonard Williams of Jvon Clowny, so I'll do the same
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: thing here with the usc as receivers. It's almost like
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: with the Cincinnati Bengals. Mkai Lemon playing the role of
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: Jamar Chase Jakobe Lane, the six foot four hundred and
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: ninety five pounder playing the role of T Higgins. Mkaile
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: Lemon is my favorite. Well, we talked about him many times.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: I mean he is just electricity personified. I mean he's
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: got you know, eight touchdowns on the year so far,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: We've got two more touchdowns. As a rusher, he is
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: just a dynamic after once the ball is in his hands,
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: he can make people miss with his ladder Jill, he
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: can bury his shoulder into people and break tackles that way,
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: and then he's got enough straight line speed to him
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: that he's just a dynamics right. He is the first
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: round pick of the bunch. My other might become that
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: another year, but again, he is one of those quarterback
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: for Oregon Donton and Moore that if a team was
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: willing to roll the dice on him in a first round.
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: You know, you're you're going all upside and he probably
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: needs at least a year on the sideline before he's
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: ever going to be able to play in an NFL system.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I think about that. I think
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: about you know what Seattle has right in Jalen Milroe.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, even a guy that was far more accomplished
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: in terms of what he did his resume in college
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: than Maeva or more. And that guy needs a year
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: plus maybe two, uh, sitting here on the sideline in Seattle.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: If ever, let me ask you, this is and this
• 55:30
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• 55:32
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• 55:36
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• 55:43
  Speaker 3: down to this, who has the advantage between USC and
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Oregon a quarterback USC with Maeva or the Ducks with more.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: You know, that's hard because I really I think that
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: Dante Moore is the more physically gifted player. I feel
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: very strongly about that actually, But at the same time,
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: I just think that the play calling, the development and
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: the receiver talent. Uh, it puts the ball you know,
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: and or gives the USC a little bit of advantage.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: That said, while I do agree with you that, you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: from a betting perspective and just the winner and loser
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: often comes down to the quarterback. To me, and there
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: is no question about that, the level or the line
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage is clearly an Oregon's favor and that's why
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: I do think the Oregon wins this football game. Now,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: you know, Oregon stubbed their toe a couple of times.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: That's one of the things that is frustrating from a
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: talent evaluation standpoint. Really, the two best teams in college
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: football in terms of talent are clearly the Ohio State
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: Buckeyes and the Oregon Ducks. And so I just basically
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: you can go down Oregon's roster and virtually every single
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: position and Oregon has an NFL caliber draft prospect and
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: that is just not the case with US. See, it
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: is very much a Lincoln Riley kind of coach team.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: If they have skilled position players, they've got some five star,
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: four star recruits along the offensive and defensive lines, and
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: even some decent statistics, but not dudes that look like
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: they're going to wind up being an NFL team. So again,
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: I do think that the quarterback advantage, just because of
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: the play callers and the talent around him, is probably
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: better for USC. I just think that Dante Moore, the
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: Oregon running game, and then certainly the Oregon defensive line
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: is going to put so much pressure on us Hedy
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: essentially have to score just about every single drive that
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: I think the Ducks ultimately feel pretty comfortable with this victory.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: That should be a great game. By the way, all right,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: I don't want to run out of time before I
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: get to this because in our pre show emails, Rob says,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: and I love this term. He used the word polarizing.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Miami is playing in Virginia Tech, another elimination game. Virginia
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Tech not very good. They just did hire James Franklin,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: we'll see even though he's not going to be co coaching.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: As that have you kind of juice for Virginia Tech
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: playing host number thirteen Miami. But when Rob tells me
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: the Hurricanes have quote some polarizing dudes, including possible first
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: rounders on the lines, I must ask you about who
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: are those polarizing dudes, and why are they polarizing?
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: Rop Yeah, I think that what's polarizing about them is
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: while they're very talented, at the same time, they're also
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: you know, some have some warps. I mean, we'll sort
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: off the quarterback spot with Carson Beck. Of course, so
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: we've we've all seen some of the just the just
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: frankly boneheaded kind of interceptions to which she throws, and
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: that that was the case in Georgia. It's the case
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: of Miami, and he threw four interceptions against Louisville and
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: he was like, what the heck are you doing. But
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: at the same time, if you want to put up
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: a you know, a highlight reel of some of the
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: best throws in all of college football this season, Carson
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: Beck is there. He's six foot, Folly's turning thirty pounds,
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: he's got a rocket for an arm. He's you know,
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: he's had to deal with all of the questions. You know.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: The second guessing, I guess I should say for two
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: big time programs at Georgia and Miami, so the mental
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: toughness is going to be there. That maybe Fernando Mendoza,
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: who played at Cal before we went to Indiana, that
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: he isn't necessarily going to have, so again, I think
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: you canna start off with them. Then you have the
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: two edge rushers, Ruben Baines, who is six foot one
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: tour and seventy pounds, so his short, steady kind of
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: a guy may have short arms as well. I mean,
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: I want to watch him on taping and he reminds
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: me a little bit of Dwight FREEI. But I remember
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: Dwight FREEI being the number eleven overall draft pick and
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: obviously want to become in a Hall of Famer, but
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: there were questions about how good that he was going
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: to be. And there's been a lot of headdressers to
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: have that type of a frame that haven't been as
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: successful in the NFL. So he's got some questions about
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: And McKey Megador the head dresser on the opposite side,
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: similar kind of thing. He's more of a six foot
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: three tour and seventy pound frame, but again he's more
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: of a physical power kind of a player. And a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: lot of the edge rushers they're successful in the NFL.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: It's all about speed, it's all about your ladder jilly
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: to make people miss. So again, I think that those
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: are some of the people who from Miami are definitely
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: a little bit polarizing in the scouting community. And even
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: the big tackle Francis Myoga, you know, he's powerful. At
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: the same time, does he really have the speed the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: light feet to be able to remain outside tackle in
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: the NFL as or it's he gonna wind up being
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: pushed inside to guard. So again, there's definitely talent, and
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: you can make an argument to all four of those
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: players at their best our first round picks. At the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: same time, I can trad you some some ugly riffs
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: from each of those players at times as well that
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: should argue that they'd be more top one hundred kind
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: of guys, third round caliber prospects.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny with Ruby Bain. We've talked about
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: him a couple of times, and I I because with
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: the Heisman vote, I try to watch not just quarterbacks
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: and running backs, so I want to see other guys.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: And the thing with Bain is that we've talked about
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: him two or three times this season. Rob, I've watched
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: him and there's times where he pops, like just absolutely pops,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: and there's other times where I'm like, I don't notice
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: him for a long period of time. Am I Am
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I wrong with that?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: I That's that basically characterizes this entire draft class here.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: This is not securely strong clasp. You have to for
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: some of the guys that are supposed to be first
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: round picks. I mean you have to kind of watch
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: the tape. They're like, oh, okay, it's kind of a
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: slow burn kind of a thing, and that shouldn't be
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: the case for guys that are, you know, possible first
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: round selections. It's you know, you know, I took my cap,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: you know, John Scheider for for the courage to make
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: the trade that he did for Rashid Shahib, because that guy,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: even when he's only had a couple of catches, you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: see the return ability and the fact that Seatle's using
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: him out of the backfield as a you know, as
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: a running back just to take advantage of his speed.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: It's acknowledging that there are not a lot of difference
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: makers in this upcoming draft class, and so you might
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: as well just kind of trade away some of those
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: draft picks to get something that can help you immediately,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: because I don't know, there's a lot of players in
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: this draft class they're going to be able to do that.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Speaking off, at some point, we had to talk about
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: Texas Texas linebacker Jacob Rodriguez there. They're trying to pump
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: him up as a Heisman candidate, even having them carry,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: you know, carry the ball out of the backfield and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: everything else. But we'll talk about him down the road
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: as well, because yeah, it's also weird here for the Heisman.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: There's no clear frontrunner. I think Love might be the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: best player in the country, but he even shares carries
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  Speaker 3: in the backfield for Notre Dame. So hard to go
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  Speaker 3: down that road. All right, my friend, great stuff, Rob Rang.
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  Speaker 3: of seconds, four nine, four to five one. Let's see
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  Speaker 3: How bad Anthony Bradford is I have? He's not good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a whole like montage of very bad Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Bradford snaps out there on social media.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he's not good. Nope, he is a problem. We
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  Speaker 3: talked about that yesterday with Corbyn. Problem is you don't
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  Speaker 3: have an answer like it's him right now. Gray'sabel though,
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  Speaker 3: michaec Doll just say a short time ago that Graysabel
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  Speaker 3: could play on Sunday going after game. It's gonna go
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  Speaker 3: all the way after game time. Just how about just Rusting? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're playing the Titans. Yeah, I will don't need him
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  Speaker 3: or Ernest Jones in there this week.
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  Speaker 1: Ernest Jones definitely not. I think the one area where
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  Speaker 1: the Titans can get you is the d line. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's the only thing that I'm worried about. Jeffery
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  Speaker 1: Simmons is a man's man.
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  Speaker 3: He's a he's a dude. He's a dude. Two five three.
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  Speaker 3: People need to pick their poison with quarterbacks. Sam's a
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  Speaker 3: scoring are very good. I'll take it over being sacked
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  Speaker 3: multiple times and punting all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Gene On later Russ. Every quarterback has clunkers. They can
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  Speaker 3: overseel he just does. I mean, it's I mean, I've
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  Speaker 3: said it before. You saw the difference between him and
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford on Sunday. Yep right, it's Stafford's not going
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  Speaker 3: to make those mistakes. No, I need another two forty
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  Speaker 3: Can that happen again? Maybe maybe if they get to
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs, will do that. I'm it's I love it.
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  Speaker 4: They did it?
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  Speaker 3: Do you hear any college football music? I'm looking through here? One?
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  Speaker 6: Two.
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  Speaker 3: There's only been two picks this week, NFL Pick or
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  Speaker 3: College Football Picks. Everything else has been NFL. Yeah, MJ
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  Speaker 3: took Iowa Michigan State under forty two and a half today.
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  Speaker 3: Why Jackson took JMU minus thirteen and a half for Wazoo.
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  Speaker 3: I get that pick. You're just being that guy, and
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  Speaker 3: you know what, I appreciate it. I have great respect
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  Speaker 3: for that because I do the same thing. And I
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  Speaker 3: almost did that again today, keyword being almost, yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I was leaning hard towards that, going basically down the
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  Speaker 3: same road I go down all the time. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to tell you right now, after listening to co
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  Speaker 3: to Rob rang I gotta go with the Ducks. Yeah, God,
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  Speaker 3: I've got it. I've got it without the hook. Do
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  Speaker 6: Damn it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Oregon minus ten and a half over USC fact
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  Speaker 3: four nine four five one. I know that's a big spread.
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  Speaker 3: I get that they're at home. No, they're at home.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think you and line of scrimmage, as
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  Speaker 3: Rob said, talent level, as Rob said, just they're just different.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: USC is on the up with with Lincoln Riley. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm I think Oregon. I think Oregon now is
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  Speaker 3: like kind of taking the season seriously. I think Dan
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Lanning is the kind of guy that they cannot relax.
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  Speaker 3: They got whacked at home by Indiana thirty to twenty
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  Speaker 3: in the game. Frankly wasn't that close since that time
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  Speaker 3: close game against Iowa should have killed Wisconsin only beat
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  Speaker 3: him by fourteen. Minnesota. They handily won no last week,
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  Speaker 3: handily forty two thirteen. And I think they I think
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  Speaker 3: they give it to you. I think they curbsed off
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  Speaker 3: USC tomorrow. Yeah. Here's the thing. Style points matters too.
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  Speaker 3: It's we're at that point. Yeah, we're at that point.
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  Speaker 3: Even though they say it doesn't, it does Oregon minus
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  Speaker 3: ten and a half fact four nine four or five
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  Speaker 3: into the Ducks. Part of it is I want to
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  Speaker 3: see them roll in here next week and just have
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more on the line. That's what that game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they can't afford a loss, certainly a home loss to USC.
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  Speaker 3: Now they beat USC tomorrow and lose to Washington. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they're in, But I just I think you
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  Speaker 3: can't make any difference statements right now about the college
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  Speaker 3: football playoff. There's just too much left to happen over
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  Speaker 3: the next two weeks. Yeah, you can throw in the
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  Speaker 3: champion the conference championship games a week later if you want,
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  Speaker 3: But really, the next two weeks there's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 3: I think they have to go to and O. I
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  Speaker 3: think they do too. I would, Yes, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: I think they need to go to and Oh. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think USC's disappointed me on a couple of occasions
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  Speaker 3: this year. I've picked them a couple of times, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm not picking them again. I'm going to Oregon, Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: I know, listen for many of you. You'll feel dirty.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah, then pick fiction. That's the think
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Ducks might be able to I think
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  Speaker 3: they could afford a loss. Really, I don't think they
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  Speaker 3: could afford a loss at home. What's worse home versus
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  Speaker 3: USC year or on the road against Washington. Well, Washington's
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  Speaker 3: gonna win this week? They will? Did they get votes?
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  Speaker 3: At all last week in the top twenty five. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they did. Okay, I think I think Washington the Washington
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  Speaker 3: would be it's on the road at the Husky Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: It's a rivalry game. If it's closed and something weird happens,
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  Speaker 3: and if they handle USC, I think maybe I think
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  Speaker 3: this is just a huge game. Yeah, I'm going it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I've already picked made the pick Oregon minus
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  Speaker 3: ten and a half fact for him. I was leading.
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of fifty to fifty on the scheme,
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  Speaker 3: you know that. But then I listened to Rang and
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  Speaker 3: he's telling me how the great a lot of scrimmage
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  Speaker 3: and the talent battles not even close right now. So
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  Speaker 3: so you got to pick the ducks if you want
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  Speaker 3: We'll live with it. Fine, I mean pushes a fiction anyway.
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  Speaker 3: played the game and you say, hey man, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a Ah, the Rose Bull. You should be in the
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  Speaker 3: Rosebull the last game for UCLA there, right, we thought
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  Speaker 3: about going down there and then Wisconsin happened. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: So so what Petros I heard a little bit the
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  Speaker 3: other day, is this it for the Rose Bowl? Like
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  Speaker 3: the final UCLA game there? They thank? Yeah, this could
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  Speaker 3: be it.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 10: We'll see what happens over the offseason and look at it.
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  Speaker 10: I kind of get it, man, it's hard to get there.
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  Speaker 3: You know. People have been bitching about the Rose Bull forever.
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  Speaker 10: I think they just say things like, well, you know,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 10: the Rose Bull sucks, but we'd rather be there than
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  Speaker 10: Sofi Stadium, which I totally understand that. I think personally,
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  Speaker 10: they're going to find a way to get something done
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  Speaker 10: on campus down the road. I know that Petros is
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  Speaker 10: very skeptical about that. I just can't imagine them playing
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  Speaker 10: their games long term and so far unless you do.
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  Speaker 10: I think it was new Heisl's idea. You play the
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  Speaker 10: big games at the Rose Bowl right right, like the
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  Speaker 10: dynamic pricing games.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I see Ohio State.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know if Oregon whatever you have blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 10: and then you play the crap at the at so.
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  Speaker 3: Fine well basically any game that's a SOFI stadium. You see,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: LA is telling what Petrol saying about, like building a
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: stadium there, like the track. The track, they got.
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  Speaker 10: Problems with the neighbors and all that stuff. There's really
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  Speaker 10: nowhere to put it is is the real issue. They
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  Speaker 10: don't want traffic, they don't want any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I think what they should do is just
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  Speaker 10: go small the build like a semi soccer stadium that
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  Speaker 10: seats forty thousand people.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you do, honestly, Yeah, why not? What is
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: autin fifty thousand right now? And you fill it up
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: and it's a better atmosphere and yeah fifty five.
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  Speaker 10: By the way, I'll talk to Gonzano about this later
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 10: on that Oregon might be in the mix for a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 10: new park down there in Eugenew Park, either either a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 10: new Otston or a greatly expanded Austin Stadium down there.
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  Speaker 3: So well they alread expanded it once, right, they might
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: keep going. They they might keep going. Just hey, check yourself, Oregon,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Like just check yourself for a second. Huh, I'm just
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: missing check yourself or rumors. I've heard rooms about that.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: I've heard rumors about Anders, I've heard rumors about you.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Well the rumors. Did I see Canzano right that Jim
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Mora juniors in contention for the Oregon state jobs? Yes
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: he is. Uh.
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  Speaker 10: I know a lot of guys in contention for the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 10: Oregon stage jo Uh, former Husky wide receivers coach, is
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 10: now at Alabama. I think his name might be getting
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 10: floated out there by some people.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Jim Mora, first of all, is not a junior.
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  Speaker 6: You know that, right.
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  Speaker 10: He's got a different middle name than his dad. I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 10: think one's a Frank and one's a Lord, which is
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 10: like ridiculous junior. If you're if you like, if you're
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 10: Jim more of the elder. Yeah, and you and you
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 10: had a kid and Jim, I mean, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You have to ex I didn't be of course, of
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  Speaker 3: course anyway, So he's he's rumored there's all kinds of rumors.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: Man, JaMarcus uh Shepherd Shepherd, Okay, I think Oregon State's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: got a shot to get a pretty decent name. Question is,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 10: does Jim Mora want to leave Yukon for Oregon State? Like,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 10: what's a better job right now? It sounds ridiculous obviously
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 10: now today, what would be technically a better job?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: I think if you're not unless you're Notre Dame being
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: one of two independents in the country, I think being
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: in a conference is better. Yeah, I think you can win.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: You're also at a basketball first Actually you're number three
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: on that camp. Yeah, behind women's basketball and men's basketball. Yeah,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: and you're number two behind baseball and corvallis kind of
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: You're kind of right about that.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: I just wonder if you can win more games at Yukon. Man, Honestly,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 10: I think I think Oregon State's in trouble. I feel
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 10: really bad for Oregon State. I think they are really
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: really behind the eight ball right now. Man, with their
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 10: situation down there, big time.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: They got they got money though, more money than we have.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, dude, Well, I'll take it out like that.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine, fine.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: J Mark Marcus was in continent for our job last year.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: He was He don't think he ever an interviewed, but
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: I know his name was floated out there. So if
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: that guy floated out there, if I'm not mistaken, you
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: may have you flowed a lot of things. Yeah, he
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: may be.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 10: He may be a head coach down the road one day.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 10: He might need to go be a coordinator first before
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 10: he becomes a head coach. He's never been a coordinator before,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 10: at least not for a significant amount of time.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: But I love the guy.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 10: I mean, he's a phenomenal dude, and I think he's
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 10: a great leader and personality and all that I.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: Can recruit too. CEOC left year and grub was here. No, No,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: that was Nick Sheridan.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 10: Okay, Yeah, Nick Sheridan was the OC and then he
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 10: hired grub back, Brian grubbing me the next OC of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: the Falcons.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah did you bring that? Who you brought that up?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Is that you and Florida were talking about that?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: What's a better job Atlanta better than the Alabama O C? Absolutely? Yeah, Well,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: I guess depends on the coaches.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 10: Dude, you're one step away from the head coach getting
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: fired and you taken over, kid me can't can't, he
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 10: can't fail again in the NFL.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants back in the NFL. Everybody wants back in
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  Speaker 3: the Let's put it this way, it's a it's an
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  Speaker 3: easier job. It's not twelve and a half months a year, no,
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  Speaker 3: not on which colleges right now. That's that's the big
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  Speaker 3: reason why. It's like people, you know, say, why do
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  Speaker 3: you want to be in the NFL because you don't
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  Speaker 3: recruit in the NFL. You don't You don't deal with
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  Speaker 3: twice the players. You don't deal with moms and dads
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  Speaker 3: and donors and and ill, once the season's over, your
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  Speaker 3: job's over. You wait till the guys drop somebody then
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  Speaker 3: to deal with it.
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  Speaker 10: At that point, you're in the war room, you're watching
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  Speaker 10: tape with a GM and all that stuff. You're going
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  Speaker 10: to the scouting combine, blah blah blah. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 10: a totally different gig. And it's like people ask you
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  Speaker 10: all the time, how come you don't want to coach?
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  Speaker 10: Because I do want to work eighty hours a week
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  Speaker 10: for God's sakes, are you kidding me? Why would he
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  Speaker 10: coach when he can come on there?
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  Speaker 3: Our friend Dannie O'Neil brought up today the tire U,
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  Speaker 3: the tire jack at Mountsi High School. Right, one of
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  Speaker 3: the great all time stories. Yes, Chris the.
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  Speaker 10: Internet, Parallax, Yes, Parallax two thousand and nine. Yes, Chris
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  Speaker 10: poul cat Notre Dame. I think he was in but
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  Speaker 10: the camera was on the wrong angle and you never knew.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, why can't we have a camera in the pylon?
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  Speaker 10: In the pylon right?
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  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 3: They're not even doing that in the NFL? Is that right?
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  Speaker 3: Some are now?
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  Speaker 10: I think, how often do you watch an NFL game
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  Speaker 10: and you see the gold line camera but it's on
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  Speaker 10: the two yard line?
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  Speaker 3: It's like offset? How hard is this to figure out?
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  Speaker 3: Can't be hard?
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  Speaker 11: Computer chips and footballs, cameras and pilons. I mean, what
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  Speaker 11: are we doing Lions and Tigers? I could create an
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  Speaker 11: AI video, yes, of you doing whatever the hell I
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  Speaker 11: want you to do. We can't put a camera in
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  Speaker 11: a pilon.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct, sir?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing today? What's today? Friday Lee's sterling
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  Speaker 3: join us? He was four and one.
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  Speaker 10: Last week on the air, Teresa Walker from the AP
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  Speaker 10: in Nashville, The Little Titans preview God, they're.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible right now.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, you Miller at five, more at five, and then
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  Speaker 10: we're gonna hear from Jed Fish my conversation.
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  Speaker 3: With him in the six pm hour. Okay, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: what's going on. Man, that's a big show, a lot
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  Speaker 3: going on. All right.
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  Speaker 10: Well, well it's better than you know two days ago.
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  Speaker 10: Two days ago sucked. Today is pretty good. I was yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday was mediocre. Okay, well, wait to wrap it up
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  Speaker 3: for the end of the week. We're just gonna and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: you were something good man. I see for the mild
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  Speaker 3: mannered and marginally objectionable in forness this paddle day, saying
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  Speaker 3: so long everyone,