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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 9-4-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday, everybody. Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully you're not feeling it today.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Hopefully you're not hungover today.
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  Speaker 2: Although we would understand and your boss would probably understand
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  Speaker 2: because A celebratory atmosphere at Rice Eccles Stadium last night,
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  Speaker 2: not only because of the return of Utah football, but
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  Speaker 2: because of a monster performance, an expected monster performance, to
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  Speaker 2: be fair, to be honest, but a monster performance by
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  Speaker 2: the Utes in their first game of the season last night. 66-14,
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  Speaker 2: Utah demolishes the Vandals of Idaho. And that's what we
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  Speaker 2: hoped for. That's what we expected. Devin Dampier, 13 of 18,
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  Speaker 2: 176 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, almost 10 yards per completion.
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  Speaker 2: Bird Ficklin, 50% completions, but 93 yards, 11.6 yards per completion.
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  Speaker 1: He also had two tutties.
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  Speaker 2: LaMarcus Bell put one drive together, seven carries for 87 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Kids got speed. Bright future in that running back room.
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  Speaker 2: Huge night for the run game. 364 yards on the
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  Speaker 2: ground for Utah football. I was actually a little bummed
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  Speaker 2: out to see them not hold Idaho to fewer than
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  Speaker 2: 100 yards rushing. We have questions still. We have things
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. Plenty to discuss on the program today.
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  Speaker 2: And we will be focusing heavily on Utah football for
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  Speaker 2: the very obvious reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Colorado also got a big win last night. So, all right. Dion,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Buffs. Snagged one for the Big 12 Conference.
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  Speaker 2: By defeating Georgia Tech on a field goal block as
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  Speaker 2: time expired.
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  Speaker 1: Thrilling and exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, to be fair to everyone involved, that's
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  Speaker 2: a heck of a lot more climactic finish than than
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  Speaker 2: what we saw from this Utah, Idaho game. 8 7
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  Speaker 2: 7 3 5 3 0 700.
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  Speaker 1: I always love to hear from you. I already put
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  Speaker 1: it out on Twitter. I want it on the text
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  Speaker 1: line as well.
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  Speaker 2: The best thing you saw from the game last night,
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  Speaker 2: also throw in the worst thing you saw from the
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  Speaker 2: game last night, because like you want from most week
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  Speaker 2: one match-ups against a, an FCS team or against, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even a group of six team in these pay games,
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  Speaker 2: these gimme wins, you want to come away with a
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  Speaker 2: boost in your confidence. You want to come away healthy,
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  Speaker 2: which it looks like Utah did. You want to come
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  Speaker 2: away with some awareness of what needs to be worked on.
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  Speaker 2: And I promise you this Utah coaching staff is grinding
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  Speaker 2: the tape and saying, okay, this is where we need
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  Speaker 2: to get better before Arkansas rolls into town because Arkansas's
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  Speaker 2: personnel is significantly different than Idaho's personnel and all respect
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  Speaker 2: to the vandals. You got to give those guys credit.
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  Speaker 2: They knew what they were in for. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: two or three of those guys showed up really ready
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  Speaker 2: to play.
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  Speaker 1: That's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: More than two or three of them. Hayden Kinchelow got
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  Speaker 2: me nervous for a second. The former walk-on Vandal running
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  Speaker 2: back who just got put on scholarship this year, his
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  Speaker 2: fifth year of college football, by the way. So he's
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  Speaker 2: like one of those guys that you have to give
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  Speaker 2: him a scholarship. He's been grinding away for five years.
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  Speaker 1: Hayden Kinchelow.
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  Speaker 2: Seven carries, 37 yards. He was breaking tackles. He was
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  Speaker 2: running through contact. Five yards a carry. You don't want
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  Speaker 2: to see an Idaho Vandal go for five yards a carry,
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  Speaker 2: but give that guy credit. Good job by him. He
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  Speaker 2: was absolutely amped. Josh Wood, their quarterback, is a dynamic athlete.
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  Speaker 2: Goodness gracious, he had an abysmal night passing the football.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of drops, so his teammates are partially responsible
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  Speaker 2: for this, but nine of 27 for 111 yards. And again,
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  Speaker 2: plenty to digest. I've only watched it the one time.
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  Speaker 2: I will do a rewatch probably tonight or at some
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  Speaker 2: point during the weekend, although it is a packed slate
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  Speaker 2: of college football. Last night, tonight, Saturday, full slate, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: even Sunday and Monday games.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have plans.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to take your wife on a date,
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  Speaker 2: if you're looking for, or your husband on a date,
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be sexist.
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  Speaker 1: I know we have at least a woman listening to
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  Speaker 1: the program.
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday is the day we got football in what 11
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  Speaker 2: of the next 12 days. And I think Tuesday is
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  Speaker 2: the only one where we're safe, where we're free and
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  Speaker 2: clear Wednesday. You've got Australia game. No Wednesday. You have
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  Speaker 2: the non-Australia game Thursday. You have the Australia game. It's
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  Speaker 2: a Seahawks Patriots kicking off the NFL season on a Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: which is weird, but.
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  Speaker 1: And you can hear it here.
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  Speaker 2: You can't hear it right here on ESPN, 792 on FM.
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  Speaker 2: We're off and running people. It's so nice to not
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  Speaker 2: have to talk about the speculation and the lawsuits and
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  Speaker 2: the projections and the, Hey, what's, is it going to
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  Speaker 2: be over this number? Is it going to be under
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  Speaker 2: this number? Who's going to be the breakout star by
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  Speaker 2: the way? I don't know what is wrong with me.
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  Speaker 2: Like the highest percentage move when you're talking about Utah
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  Speaker 2: football and you want to name a breakout star is
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  Speaker 2: to go with the name you're familiar with.
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  Speaker 1: A last name you're familiar with.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody, none of us yesterday when I was asking for
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  Speaker 2: breakout stars, we didn't get a tweet about it.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't get a text about it.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody put Elijah Ellis as the breakout star of this season.
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  Speaker 2: And then we saw Elijah Ellis early and often and
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  Speaker 2: throughout this game for Utah football. They're clearly going to
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  Speaker 2: try to get the most they can out of number 83.
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  Speaker 1: So, man, you have an embarrassment of riches.
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  Speaker 2: You have plenty of options when it comes to, hey,
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  Speaker 2: who's going to be that guy for this Utah football team?
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  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me how you're feeling.
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  Speaker 2: What was the best part of the game last night?
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  Speaker 2: What was the part of the game last night that
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  Speaker 2: left you feeling a little uneasy or questioning or wondering
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  Speaker 2: the worst part of the game last night for you?
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  Speaker 2: Mike from nine, four, three, seven says great performance in
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  Speaker 2: the first game.
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  Speaker 1: Only one penalty.
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  Speaker 2: Morgan looks like he belongs on the youth side. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: Morgan looks like he belongs on the youth sideline. He's
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  Speaker 2: been on the youth sideline his whole life.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, he looked composed. He looks comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Look, part of it is the matchup, but Morgan and
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  Speaker 2: his staff were very prepared and they felt like they
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  Speaker 2: had this team very prepared. The moment was never going
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  Speaker 2: to be too big for Morgan Scali whenever that call came.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously it came in the bowl game last year,
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  Speaker 2: whenever that call came, Hey, the keys to the kingdom
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  Speaker 2: are now yours. The moment was not going to be
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  Speaker 2: too big for Morgan. He has mentally prepared himself mentally.
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  Speaker 2: He has spiritually prepared himself. He has tactically prepared himself
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  Speaker 2: for exactly this for years and years and years. 877-353-0700,
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  Speaker 2: best and worst part of the game for you. Last
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  Speaker 2: night as Utah opened their season with a monster, monster
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  Speaker 2: 66-14 performance over the Idaho Vandals who fall to 0-2
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  Speaker 2: and were coming into Rice Eccles' On a short week.
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  Speaker 2: Morgan says way. Sean looks like a dog. Thought we'd
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  Speaker 2: see Larry Simmons run with the one some more. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not panicking or worrying about who's out there and who's
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  Speaker 2: not out there too much. Given this game, because if
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  Speaker 2: you didn't see a guy enough, part of it, it
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  Speaker 2: could be, you know, we have no idea how many
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  Speaker 2: guys missed a certain number of practices with health issues.
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  Speaker 2: if you missed several practices, these coaches were going to
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  Speaker 2: end up playing you later in this game. And maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's what happened with Larry Simmons. I'm not a hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent sure on that, but that's the way I look
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  Speaker 2: at some of those things. Also, we knew we were
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  Speaker 2: going to see everybody at some point in this game
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  Speaker 2: and the coaches did too. So I don't think their
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  Speaker 2: substitution patterns in this one are necessarily going to be
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  Speaker 2: indicative of what we see for the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: year and We all want to see more of Larry Simmons.
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  Speaker 2: We all want to see more of Braden Pagan.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Goodness gracious.
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  Speaker 2: Four catches, 81 yards, 20 yards per catch. Simmons did
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  Speaker 2: have 20 yards per catch also, but he only had
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  Speaker 2: a couple of grabs. Five total touchdown receptions. Two of
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  Speaker 2: those belong to Way Sean Parker. Noah Benny got one
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  Speaker 2: on the throwback. Left-hander against the grain, moving the wrong way. Wide, wide,
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  Speaker 2: wide open on a short yardage down.
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  Speaker 4: And Pagan also had the rushing touchdown on the creative
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  Speaker 4: end around, which was, like.
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  Speaker 1: He was electric, OC.
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  Speaker 4: I would hope that he's going to get, as the
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  Speaker 4: season progresses, he would get more than four catches, as
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  Speaker 4: electric as he was. But the game didn't call for
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  Speaker 4: that against Idaho. So it called for spreading things around a.
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  Speaker 1: Little bit more. Speaker 0 7, 0 7, 1.
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  Speaker 2: If there's a problem to be found in a game
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  Speaker 2: like this one, it is a very good problem to
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  Speaker 2: be found, but.
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  Speaker 1: Look at all the guys that got touches. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: In the run game, LaMarcus bell had seven carries for
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  Speaker 2: 87 yards. Weigh Sean, 12 carries He's at 5.9 yards
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  Speaker 2: per carry in this game. I want to see way
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  Speaker 2: Sean maintain that throughout the season. Easier said than done, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but you gave multiple carries to your third string, fourth string.
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  Speaker 1: He's your fourth string running back. LaMarcus Bell's your fourth
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  Speaker 1: string running back, right? And he had an explosive drive
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  Speaker 1: and he earned probably more opportunities. Good for him.
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  Speaker 5: Way.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Parker looked awesome. Bird Ficklin, eight carries for 70 yards.
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  Speaker 1: He looked awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Chavez Soto looked kid's got some talent, some grit.
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  Speaker 2: That's a guy you're going to see a lot more of.
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  Speaker 2: He is this year's the Kerry Rogers potentially for this
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  Speaker 2: Utah football team, Devin damn peer. I wanted to see
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  Speaker 2: him hit less in this game than he was. Devin
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  Speaker 2: was clearly like so enthusiastic and excited about being out
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  Speaker 2: there and healthy again, that I think he didn't protect
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  Speaker 2: himself enough from the contact. He's okay with it. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: the coaching staff's okay with it. I was like, but
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  Speaker 2: that's because I'm hypersensitive to it. Devin Dampier had six carries.
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  Speaker 2: Matiaki Helu, who got a lot of shout outs during
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  Speaker 2: camp as a guy who forced himself into the conversation,
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  Speaker 2: looked like exactly what he is, a very talented young
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  Speaker 2: running back who was was kind of getting his first
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  Speaker 2: real game action. Hunter Andrews only got one carry. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to see Hunter Andrews this season, get multiple carries
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  Speaker 2: in multiple games. Daniel Bray had a couple of carries.
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  Speaker 2: As you mentioned, James Pagan got involved in the run game.
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Rose carried the ball for a couple of times
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  Speaker 2: in a game against Idaho. You're able to have 10
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  Speaker 2: different dudes carrying the ball in a normal game.
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  Speaker 1: This list goes down to four or five.
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  Speaker 2: So we're not able to fully project what the offense
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  Speaker 2: does against Idaho onto Arkansas or even onto Utah state
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  Speaker 2: and probably not onto Kansas and Iowa state and definitely
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  Speaker 2: not onto a BYU game plan. I don't think, but
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  Speaker 2: this is what you wanted to see as a Utah
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  Speaker 2: fan in game one, most of the time, not all
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  Speaker 2: the time, most of the time you made it look
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  Speaker 2: pretty easy to Against an Idaho team that, look, they're
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  Speaker 2: well coached.
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  Speaker 1: They have some talent. They were overmatched physically.
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  Speaker 2: And it was always going to be the case that
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  Speaker 2: Utah ran away with this game. The passing game, the
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  Speaker 2: throw game, you probably don't want to call it that anymore.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of reason for optimism there. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: reason for happiness and excitement surrounding this group of wide receivers.
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  Speaker 2: Still wonder what the tight ends are going to look
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  Speaker 2: like in this offense. I'm still a skeptic on that.
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  Speaker 2: Not a skeptic, but just a curious wait-and-see type observer
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  Speaker 2: on that. Dev's arm, Dev's accuracy, Dev's presence in the
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  Speaker 2: pocket looked great. If we're being fully nitpicky and critical
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  Speaker 2: and honest, a couple of those deeper balls, we saw
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  Speaker 2: those kind of like die out, flutter a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You want to get rid of that. When bird Ficklin's
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  Speaker 2: in that, what you need is the perfect balance, right?
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  Speaker 2: Bird a couple of times, just completely rifled it when
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  Speaker 2: it maybe needs to be a little bit more of
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  Speaker 2: a touch pass. A couple of those in the red zone.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Bird's arm is live, live, live. Like bird can rip
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  Speaker 2: the ball. You don't have to on every throw. And
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  Speaker 2: I think you saw some frustration from him because a
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  Speaker 2: couple of those passes he would like to have back
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  Speaker 2: because he was throwing them too hard. And he probably
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  Speaker 2: knows that, and it's probably like an excitement thing. And
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  Speaker 2: he is not in a position where he gets to
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  Speaker 2: settle into a rhythm passing-wise like Devin does.
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  Speaker 1: That's got to be frustrating for a quarterback. Like, birds.
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  Speaker 2: Mental game is going to develop so much this year
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  Speaker 2: because he has to play quarterback in a situation that
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  Speaker 2: very few other people around the country. He might be
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  Speaker 2: the only guy in the country that is used this way.
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  Speaker 1: By a major team this year. right?
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  Speaker 2: It's a weird scenario where they're going to like, they're
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  Speaker 2: not going to say, Hey, next quarter bird, you're going in.
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  Speaker 2: They might not even say, Hey, next series bird, you're
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  Speaker 2: going in. It's going to be like, Oh, we got
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  Speaker 2: a second and long bird.
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  Speaker 1: Get in there.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do this two quarterback thing or bird.
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  Speaker 2: You're in there instead of Devin and you better.
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  Speaker 1: Be warm and ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: And you better have your, you know, timing and everything
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  Speaker 2: dialed in and your rhythm dialed in.
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  Speaker 1: That's hard. Because he's also playing running back.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see how many times he lined up in
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  Speaker 2: the backfield as a running back, right? Like bird is
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  Speaker 2: going to be one of the more unique weapons and
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  Speaker 2: talents in the land. And he's going to have to
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  Speaker 2: adjust to that. And we saw some of those growing
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  Speaker 2: pains from a brand new offense and some curious roles
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  Speaker 2: within that offense last night. But man, you got to
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  Speaker 2: feel good as a Utah fan that it went how
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  Speaker 2: it was supposed to go.
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  Speaker 1: You pushed around the team in front of you.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to see a little bit more from the
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  Speaker 2: first string offensive line. I wanted to see a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more from the offensive line in general. I wanted
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: to see more from the base defensive front. I wanted
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: to see more sacks in this game. Idaho was playing
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  Speaker 2: from behind literally the whole game. They threw the ball
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  Speaker 2: more than they wanted to. Utah came away with one sack.
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  Speaker 2: Should have been two.
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  Speaker 4: Nate Tillman missed one that was man. And what, how
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  Speaker 4: devastating was that too? He ends up, ends up being
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  Speaker 4: what a 30, 40.
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  Speaker 1: Yards, like a 44 yard gain.
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  Speaker 4: Leads to the first touchdown of the game. Maybe ends
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  Speaker 4: up being a shout out. If you don't have that,
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  Speaker 4: I know they did score later, but yeah, that, that
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  Speaker 4: would have been a great sack and ended up being
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  Speaker 4: a terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yards allowed defensive play. So 8 7 7.
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  Speaker 2: 3 5 3 0 700 best and worst part of
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  Speaker 2: the game. We have Michael's coming in hot. He's saying you're,
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  Speaker 2: you're capping for, for Devin accuracy and arm strength is weak.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: We can have a conversation about the deep ball arm strength.
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  Speaker 2: The accuracy was not a problem last night. Intermediate throws,
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  Speaker 2: short throws. Devin was good accuracy wise. He was incredibly
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  Speaker 2: efficient and the deep throws, like I said, fluttered a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Players having to come back to the ball.
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  Speaker 4: You had that one in the first half that the
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  Speaker 4: whole stadium thought should have been pass interference with Braden Pagan.
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  Speaker 4: He beat his man, but Devin didn't quite lead him,
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  Speaker 4: so he had to come back. borderline pass interference. Didn't
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  Speaker 4: get called that. That's one of the classic ones where
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  Speaker 4: you're like, ah, you would have liked to see Devin
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  Speaker 4: put a little bit more on.
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  Speaker 1: That for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what the, I don't want the onus
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  Speaker 2: handed to the referees ever. The referees were abysmally.
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  Speaker 1: Bad last night.
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  Speaker 4: I actually have, if you want to play the funniest
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  Speaker 4: part of the game, I have the recording of the
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  Speaker 4: muffed punt.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't a muffed punt.
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  Speaker 4: .
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  Speaker 2: .
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  Speaker 4: .
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  Speaker 2: .
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  Speaker 1: .
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  Speaker 2: He did the referees bailed, bailed Utah out on this one.
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  Speaker 2: And we, you never got a real explanation as to
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  Speaker 2: what the illegal touching penalty even was or who it
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be on.
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  Speaker 1: It was very odd. And I, I do want to
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  Speaker 1: hear the actual official Utah broadcast evaluation of this. Go ahead, James.
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  Speaker 7: Kick, it's away. This is a good kick, too. It
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  Speaker 7: backs Carvalho up. He's going to back up. Goes through
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  Speaker 7: his hands. He's going to have to try to get there,
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  Speaker 7: and he won't. That's going to be Idaho football. Idaho
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  Speaker 7: falls on it at the Utah 32-yard line, and that's
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  Speaker 7: going to be Vandal football after Carvalho made a mistake.
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  Speaker 7: He should not have tried to catch that ball that
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  Speaker 7: was over his head.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see how they unsword it here. They do, and
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  Speaker 1: that's turnover on Utah.
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  Speaker 6: No!
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  Speaker 5: No!
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  Speaker 1: Now they're pointing toward the way. No, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about this. That's Idaho football. That's Idaho football.
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  Speaker 7: One official pointed the direction that it was Utah football
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  Speaker 7: in the first down.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: On the field, the ball was illegally touched by the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: kicking team. First down, Utah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Illegally touched. Okay.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: I have to think Idaho thinks the exact same thing
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: that we do, that that ball might have touched the
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: fingertips of Monte Carvalho.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: He tried, but there's often times where that happens and
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: it goes through his hands. But the way that he
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: reacted is as if it did touch his fingertips. So
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: hopefully we can get a snap off.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: Ruling on the field, the ball was illegally touched by
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: the kicking team.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: The previous play is under replay review. Here's the referee.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: After review, the ruling on.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: The field of the illegal touching is upheld.
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: First down, Idaho.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: What? Overturned or upheld?
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Upheld.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: If it was upheld, it would be Utah football. Hey,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: it's a first game, too, for the referees.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: So we'll cut Mike McCabe a little slack right here.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: But he did say it's Idaho football, and I think
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: that's the right call based on the calls or the
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: views we saw on the replay board.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Correction, it'll be Utah's ball. First down. I'm really confused
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: right now. I am really confused right now.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: But he was very definitive with that, and I can
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: tell you who else is confused down there. The coaching
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: staff and Thomas Ford Jr., the head coach at Idaho,
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: because he was pretty sure that his team was going
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: to get that recovery of the fumble. So Utah catches
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: a break right here, and they'll begin first and ten
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: at their own 32-yard line.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I'll be a homer. I love the results of the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: play right there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: So Utah did catch a.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Break there, and– The ref didn't know what was going
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: on in that scenario. Illegal touching by the kicking team
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: indicates that somebody ran out of bounds and then came
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: back in bounds, didn't reestablish himself in bounds and touch
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the football. That's the only way that the kicking team
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: can be guilty of illegal touching. a punt team is
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: allowed to touch the football. They can down the football
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: at any point that you can run down and you
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: can receive the football and down it there. You can't
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: advance it, but you can down it. The only time
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you can advance it or retake possession is if Monte
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Carvalho muffs, the punt touches the punt. Like he did,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: which Utah got bailed out. It doesn't change the result
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of the game. Utah was not going to lose that game.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Even if that ball gets turned over, but bad, bad,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: bad referee in that moment, even though it benefited Utah. James,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: can you explain the scenario we have going on right now?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Should we just go to this listener while he's trying
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to explain? He is not ready to come on the air.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: But it is, maybe we could talk about it a
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: little later. Your calls are more than welcome.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: 877-353-0700.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: He just hugged up. Okay. I'll explain it. Uh, I'm not,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave names out.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Um, We had a caller ready, I think, to give
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: an opinion on the Utes game last night.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: We didn't get that far.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I hear presumably a significant other,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: maybe a wife. In the background, and he is trying
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: to explain to her the concept of a listener calling
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: in to a radio show.
• 22:20
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• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Please call back, my man. We would love to have
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you on.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I would love to have you, and I would love
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to have your wife on, or whoever that was.
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Let's talk to both of you. Let's do this. It
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was one of those.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: She sounded really confused, and he sounded... He had a
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: hard time coming up with why it is even a
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: good idea to do something like this. It's a great idea.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Don't be exasperated. And don't be ashamed if you live
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: with someone who doesn't quite get it.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It's still totally valid, and we want to hear from you.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: It's a safe space here on the channel.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: There is a whole age demographic now that is old
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: enough and is now listening to sports talk radio like
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: a lame old guy. That is far from being lame
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and old, but the, the collar driven show is a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: lot less common than it used to be.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So I get it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: If you're like a married couple in your twenties or
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: maybe even early thirties, it could be a less of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: a familiar concept.
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And one or both partners.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't, I could only, you know, you, you overhear something,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: but you don't, you don't really make out any words.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: That's what I was getting from, from the, the woman
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: he was talking to. So I don't want to, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: don't want to even presume what she might've said, but it,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: but it seemed like it was, hold on.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: They care what you think on this radio show. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: we do. Yes, we care.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: If you're still listening, we want to hear from both
• 23:56
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• 23:56
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It was bad. I felt for the guy.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: He just wanted to go on the radio show and
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: talk with some football buddies about football.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't like to use the airing of grievances
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: as a threat, but if we don't get a call
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: back from that gentleman at some point today, then I'm
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: airing a grievance with whoever stopped that call from happening.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: All right. I want these calls, man. You're on notice.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: 8 7 7 3 5 3 0 700. All right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Best part of the game. How crazy dynamic, potent, inventive,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and exciting the offense looks.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Mac G he went in his bag. And if he
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: did that against Idaho, I promise you, he's going to
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: do it even more against Arkansas.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: The worst.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I thought Idaho should have ran the ball with the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: kitchen sink more so productive and so reminiscent of scataboo.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: That is a, that's high praise. for the, uh, the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: young Idaho former walk on Hayden Kinchelow. But yeah, uh, there,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: there were some moments where Idaho was running the ball
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: far too effectively. And you don't like to see that
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: against the Utah defensive front that remember is also in
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: their first game. Uh, this from 44, 46 trenches did
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: just okay. So a good thing saw some bad things.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: There's some young studs on the D line. They just
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: need some experience. O line has to be better, but
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: they weren't abysmal. I think that's, I think if you're
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: talking with Mac G Kevin McGimmon, I think if we're
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: talking with Jordan gross today, if we're talking with the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: players themselves, they're probably giving themselves like a C plus
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: or a B minus grade on the offensive line, because
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: ultimately what matters is, did you win the game?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Did you keep the pocket mostly clean?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Did you prevent anybody from getting hurt?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Was it a dominant performance? Was it something indicative of
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: what your best should look like? Probably not, right? Kelvin
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Obot played a lot of left guard in this game,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of left guard in this game. I'm glad
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to see the five-star getting run, getting use. I think
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: you need to do that, accelerate his growth and things
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like that. There were some growing pains there. There was
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: like a delayed movement from him on one snap where
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the entire line fires off and he was kind of
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the last guy and he got beat on that play
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: because of it.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You don't begrudge that.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: You don't, you don't get crazy about that because he's
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: a true freshman playing in his first game.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: And technically for compared to what he's been playing his
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: whole life, certainly in high school, he's playing out of position.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: So there's, he's getting used to a new position. So
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I think there were a lot of really good things.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: This also from 44, 46. I thought Utah's young guys
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: that played late showed a ton of promise. Hey, Lou
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: has my attention along with shove as Soto can't describe it,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: but there's a really good feel to this team. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I think we're in the beginning stages of something really special.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Go Utes.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: That is the hope. I think we saw glimmers of that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And I think we saw glimmers of, of the opposite, right?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Where it's just like, man, they are scratching the surface
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: of on how good they can be. And then there
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: was like some, Oh, they might also be scratching the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: surface of how disastrous this could be. If you don't
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: finish a sack on a blitz and you've sold out
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and a tight end is by himself behind the defense
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and doesn't drop a pass, right? If you don't finish those,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: if you don't close those holes against Arkansas, if you're
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: not more potent in your pass rush against Utah state
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: or BYU, things are going to get dicey, right? But
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: for a first game under a largely new staff with
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: so many new pieces moving, I'm, I'm pleased with the results,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: 66 points, 14. You gave up that one kind of
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: like significant drive for Idaho. You don't want to watch
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Idaho drive down in whatever it was like 11 plays,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and punch it in. That's not good to give that up.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: But again, we're talking first game here. If these problems
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: are not cleaned up, if they do persist through an
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Arkansas game, now we're having a different conversation. But first blush,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: a lot to be excited about as a Utah fan.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And fewer things, far more positives than negatives. A lot
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to be excited about and a couple of things that
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: you're probably now worried about. but fewer things to worry
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: about than to be positive about after a game like
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And that is why you play those games. So that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: why everyone except Rutgers plays those games. Oh my gosh.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. UMass goodness gracious. But yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: we'll get to that later. There's a couple of things
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: on there about that game. That was crazy.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: As we, as they got in the game prep mode,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks before the game, Oh, see, we
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: had talked to Devin. We'd heard sound from practice and,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And we both were talking off air about like, if
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: you would just get decent O-line play, the creativity in
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: this offense with the rhinos and with the versatility with,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, we didn't even know that Brayden Pagan had
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: a 12 yard end of round touchdown rush in him.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Now we know, okay, you got versatility with some of
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: these receivers that can take handoffs and, and, and, Weishan
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Parker had a couple of touchdown catches. We didn't see
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: a whole lot of that of receiving prowess from him
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: last season. He showed that off last night. But we
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: were talking about even before last night's game, the potential
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: for creativity. and the versatility with some of these players,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: you just get decent O-line play. You could have an
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: incredible offense because of the deception and all the stuff
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: that I think last night completely validated our thoughts on
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: that OC, because I, of course the O-line could have
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: played a lot better. You, wanted to see better play
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: against an FCS team, especially more dominance in the trenches there,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: but they didn't dominate and they still were able to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: do a whole lot of damage over 600 yards because of,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I think the creativity with this offense, it's going to
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: keep defenses on their toes. And I think that could
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: make up a lot for maybe some less than a
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: grade offensive line play.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Offensive creativity. You can scheme your way into some of that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You don't want to have to is I think the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: reason why some people are holding their breath a little bit.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: But strong start. We'll see what the voice of the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Utes thought about the game last night. Bill Riley is
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: going to join us on the program because he does
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: on Fridays. We want to hear from you at 877-353-0700.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Lee Sterling is going to give us some picks in
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: our 12 o'clock hour. We're focusing on the start of
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: a Utah football season, the start of college football season,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: week one games last night, tonight, tomorrow, Sunday, Monday.
• 31:09
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• 31:50
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• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Bill Riley, welcome to the show. How are you?
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: Doing good, Sean. How about yourself?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Doing okay.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: The pipes got nice and warm last night. You had
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to call, what, nine touchdowns?
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: Nine touchdowns, a field goal, an interception, fumble recovery, some
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: weird decisions by referees, but yeah, lots of stuff last night.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Best thing about that first game for you in this
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Utah football team?
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: No major injuries, and I think the offensive line looked
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: pretty good, and I think there's a lot of weapons
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: that Kevin McGiven has at his disposal for that offense, too.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: I said this after the game. I don't know if
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: this makes any sense on the postgame show. Utah showed
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: a lot without showing a lot.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Does that make sense?
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: There were.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: It was creative enough to keep you guessing and make
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you wonder without going, I think all the way into
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: the old magic bag.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: He didn't have to go deep in the bag, but
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: just formationally, they just showed so many different looks and
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: so many different formations. And honestly, there are seven, eight,
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: nine different guys on any given, you know, series that
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: could touch the ball and be a dangerous weapon. So I,
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: I didn't know if that made sense. I said it,
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: and Zach Moss kind of got it. He's like, yeah,
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: that kind of made sense. So I think that's right.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: I think they showed a lot without showing a lot.
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: So I thought it was a good first game. They
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: gave up the one drive where they made that one
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: guy look like Mike Allstott running back from Idaho. That's
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: a reference for some of you that are old enough
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: to remember Mike Allstott.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Put some respect on the name of Hayden Kincheloe.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: Kincheloe, he just looked like a bowling ball that Utah
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: couldn't tackle on a couple of plays. But outside of that,
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: I thought it was a pretty good effort.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: What about you?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought similar to what you're saying, you did
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: what you were supposed to do against a big sky
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: football team with a couple of moments of mental errors and.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Some lack of execution.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Didn't finish a play on that– Tillman blitz. That should
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: have been a big negative for the offense and ended
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: up being a 44 yard game. Like you got to
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: clean up those types of things, but I also want
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to be reasonable and remember that this is the first
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: game of the season. And this is, you know, first
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: real action for some of these guys, not for Tillman,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: but for some of these guys, it's their first action,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: either in a Utah uniform or the first real action period.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: So you got to allow for a few growing pains here.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And of course we came in all off season long,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: as soon as as soon as last season ended, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: one of the major questions was, well, what's the offensive
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: line going to look like?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And they passed the test. This is a big win.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: You kept, you kept Devin upright for the most part.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: It wasn't their best. I don't think, but it was
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: good enough.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: And I wonder how, how, how quickly the improvement can
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: come and will come and how much of it will
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: have to do with still getting the right mix because
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: they played a lot of combinations last night.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, they did.
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, Keith Olsen didn't play last night. He's going
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: to be a key part of what they do. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: they were mixing and matching some guys in some different spots.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: You know, when you, when you tally 633 yards, the
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: most yards you've put up in 16 years, that's, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: that's a good number. And they've played some teams and
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: put up some numbers. I think the offensive line, honestly,
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: you know, it's going to be a little bit of
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: a work in progress for a few games, even if
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: they settle on those five guys, just because you're getting
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: reps and getting used to playing next to each other
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: in game situations. Practice situation's great, but doing it in
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: game situations against another team's different.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: So, I thought they were good last night.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I thought they did what they wanted to do. Devin
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Dampier didn't get sacked. Bird Ficklin didn't get sacked. They
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: ran the ball mostly. But they did what they should
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: have done against an Idaho 1AA team. Now next week
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: when Arkansas comes rolling in with some SEC athletes and
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: some good players, it'll be a bigger test. But I
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: thought for game number one, they didn't answer all the questions, Sean,
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: but they answered a lot of the questions.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Do you think, because we got to see a lot
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: of people, as you already referenced, and there's weapons all
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: over the place. Do you think anybody surprised even the
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: coaching staff a little bit? Like LaMarcus Bell, did he
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: earn himself... some more run against Arkansas and or Utah
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: state by what he did last night? Or is it
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: going to be compartmentalized because this coaching staff knows who
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: he was going up against at what point in the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: game he was being asked to do it and credit
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to him because he took advantage of his opportunities. But
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, great things from him, great things from Steve Chavez, Soto,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and some of the guys who maybe we haven't been
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: talking about a ton in the preseason.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know that he jumps three spots on
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: the depth chart, but I mean, they like LaMarcus Bell.
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: This guy was the 6A player of the year in
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: the state of Oregon two years ago. This guy, 25 touchdowns, 1,500 yards,
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: number two recruit out of Oregon. So he's a really
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: good player, true freshman. I think what he does is
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: he and Matiaki Helu are now probably battling for that
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: fourth spot a little bit. You know, I think that
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: effort last night, although Helu was good too, he had
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: three carries for 25 yards. I don't think you're supplanting
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: Wayshawn Parker, Daniel Bray, or Chavez Soto. But I think
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: what you've done is you've shown you can do it
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: in the game. And I think that if something happens,
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: I think now, you know, not that they don't trust him,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: but I think it gives the coaching staff a little
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: bit more trust to have seen him do it in
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: the game.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Colton Swan calling his first defensive game in for the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: university of Utah. And there's a couple of schools of
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: thought from both the offensive and defensive side of things.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: You can play pretty vanilla. You can just tell your guys,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: let's see what you can do. Let's see what you've got.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to physically outmatch these individuals. We're going to
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: do our base defense all game. We're going to do
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: a four-man rush all game. Colton Swan calling did not
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: take that approach. He went out there and he ran
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: a bunch of stunts. He was blitzing like crazy. He
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: was rotating a bunch of different guys. I was a
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: little bit surprised at how much we saw of that
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: creativity from the defense.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Where did you think that was going to play out?
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: I was a little surprised, too. The one thing I
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: would say is I think Utah, for all that aggressiveness,
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: I would have liked to have seen a couple of
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: more plays made. You know, like you mentioned the Tillman
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: play where that could have been like a 25-yard sack
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: for a loss. There was one play, you know, there
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: were a couple of plays that might have been turnover-worthy
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: type plays. But I like the aggression from Colton Swan.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: I like that. I don't know if that's going to
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: be every game in, game out. Maybe he just wanted
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: to cut these guys loose because they've been a little
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: bit more vanilla in fall camp and given an opportunity
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: to do some things. I thought Trey Reynolds was really,
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: really active last night. I thought defensive end Ethan Day
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: had a nice night last night. Rabbit Evans, who's back
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: and healthy again, I thought he had a nice night
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: last night. I thought there were some guys that really
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: popped last night, but I'm never going to be upset
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: when a defensive coordinator decides he wants to get after
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: it and be aggressive.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It's fun to see the stunts also give you a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: little opportunity to see like what, when you put a
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: young player, like a Carson Kalfusi in the right situation
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and allow him to use what God gave him, the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: results of some of that, you're like, okay, if you
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: can get more of that from Kalfusi, now we're cooking
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: with gas here.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: I didn't mention Carson, but he's a guy when I
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: talked to Luther Ellis this summer, I mean, He's got
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: a chance to be that next great Utah interior defensive lineman.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: He's a sophomore.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: He comes from that Kofusi bloodline. The Kofusis just keep
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: coming at Utah and coming and coming, and they're always
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: hard workers. Carson's got a chance, I think, to be
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: really special. He flashed that a couple of times last night,
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: got the quarterback sack for Utah. So I think they,
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: I think they're still kind of figuring out with some
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: of the new guys, the rotations. I think the one
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: guy they don't need to figure out is Carson Kapusi
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: because I think, you know, he was locked in as
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: one of the starters last night and I don't think
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: he did anything but reaffirm that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: As long as we're talking about legendary names and, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: bloodlines here in the state of Utah, when it comes
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: to football, uh, I did a disservice to Elijah Ellis
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: in this preseason, not talking about him enough. He's on
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the field from the first defensive snap all the way
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: deep into the fourth quarter.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And it's clear that they want to use him a lot.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: He has that kind of tweener size versatility that obviously
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: his brothers have possessed both in college football and And
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, they're going to use him to rush
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the passer every now and again. He's still listed officially
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: as a linebacker rather than a defensive end. What did
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: you think of Elijah Ellis, his performance, and also the
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: way they want.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: To use him?
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: Well, I think he popped a little bit at the
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: end of last year. I saw him in fall camp.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: He looked good again. And I think kind of the
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: same way we talk about a guy like Hunter Andrews
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: as a weapon on offense, I think that's kind of
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: how you have to talk about Elijah Ellis on defense
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: because you can move him around because of his athleticism
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: and versatility. I mean, you've got three really good linebackers
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: in Polu and Reynolds and Hall. He can play linebacker.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: But I think because of his speed, his athleticism, and
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: I think everybody named Ellis has a nose for the ball,
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: I think you can line him up on the edge
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: and just say, go after it. I think he's that–
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: that weapon Jackson Benny's kind of one of those guys
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: too you can line Jackson Benny up if you told
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: Benny to give you a couple of reps of defensive
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: tackle he'd probably give you a couple of good reps
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: so I think Ellis's role is.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: Only going to grow as this year goes.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: Along and I don't know where he's going to end
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: up or if he's just going to be one of
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: those chess pieces that that Colton Swan likes to move
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: around quite a bit because I don't know that there's
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: a defined position for him I think we just he's
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: one of those guys you just refer to as a
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: ball player right.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Football player is the ultimate compliment you can get from
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: a coach when you get to a certain level and
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: they tell you, oh, he's just a football player. That's
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: them saying you're the king of the.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: World, effectively.
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: That's exactly right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: So, you know, I thought it was a good night.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: You know, I thought, you know.
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: Special teams were pretty good. I think Utah may have
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: caught a break. I'm not sure. I haven't seen a
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: definitive angle on that punt return. But then, you know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: then Monica Valio comes back and makes amends and gets
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: a 25-yard return. Kicking game looked good. They only punted
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: once last night. So, you know, it's an opening game.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: And you check the boxes. I wanted to see the
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: line of scrimmages be good. They were. I wanted to
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: see them get out of there healthy.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: They did.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: I think it checks a lot of boxes, and now
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: you've got a couple of extra days. To quote my
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: old friend Larry Kristowiak, he used to love to say, hey,
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: the price of poker goes up, and it will next
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: week because an SEC team comes in next week, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: they're going to have better athletes across the board. Coming
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: off an 0-10, 10 straight losses, they're probably not going
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: to lose tomorrow to Northern Alabama. But it's going to
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: be an interesting adjustment for Utah to go from a
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: 1AA middle-of-the-pack program to an SEC program that's got great athletes.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Bill Riley, our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: talking all things Utah football. With that in mind, let's
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: get a little nitpicky on this first Utah performance because
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: it wasn't all pretty, right? There were some things that
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: you'd like to see cleaned up. If you're prioritizing, if
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you're in the film room with Morgan Scali and his
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: staff today, Where do you think that primary focus is?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: What is job number one when it comes to fixing
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: the few things that did go wrong in the Idaho game?
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: I think to me it's making the plays when they're there, Sean.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: You mentioned the Tillman sack. Make that play. You can
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: get away with that in Idaho, but if you have
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: that opportunity against Arkansas or Colorado or Houston or BYU,
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: those are plays.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: You've got to make. So make the plays when they're there.
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: I thought Devin Dampier had a really efficient night last night.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: He threw two balls off of his back foot that
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: might have been if he was able to step into
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: a little bit more touchdowns to Braden Pagan. I think
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: the other one was to Ricky Johnson, maybe. Anyway, I
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: just thought they left some plays out there, and that's
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: going to happen in the first game. But if I'm
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: out there, I might be circling those or bringing those
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: up and saying, hey, if we make this play– yeah,
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: we're going to score more points, but these are plays
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: we have to make against other opponents. Just trying to
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: think of some other stuff. You know, probably that one
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: drive that Idaho had. That was one that Matt Morgan
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: mentioned at the postgame show, too. You know, you don't
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: want to give up a 13-play, 75 or whatever it
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: was yard drive, and you made that running back look
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: pretty good last night. You'd probably like to clean that
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: up a little bit, too.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: What about you?
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: Where would you go?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm like, we're, like I said, we're nitpicking.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I was happy to see Colton Swan show us a
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: little bit of his personal flavor, but I also wanted
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: to see him test his guys a little bit and
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: just be like, all right, four man rush, go get
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: that quarterback, create some pressure, win your battle. Idaho's got
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: decent amount of experience on their offensive line. So they get,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: they get some credit here as well. Cause you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: those are scholarship guys too. But if Utah football is
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: going to be the team, I think they, can be
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: this year. I need more from that defensive front in
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the run game and in the past game, you know,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: you gotta be able to flip that switch and win
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: your battle and do it, you know, hopefully more than
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: once per game. And we didn't really see that because
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of the pressure was manufactured pressure, if that
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: makes sense.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they got a little exotic. They've got creative to
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: do it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: You're right.
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: It wasn't just that traditional four-down lineman. I'm going to
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: line up, beat you around the edge, and get to
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: the quarterback. Now, with that being said, too, it was
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: a lot of three-step drop stuff, too. He wasn't standing
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: in the pocket for a long time and would.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: When he would flush, he would move pretty good. But
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: you're right.
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: You would love to be able to get a little
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: bit of pressure with just four.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: So I was kind of laughing about this in the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: first segment, right? All off season long, we were talking about,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: holy cow, look at this embarrassment of riches. There's only
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: one football. How do you share it around? Well, last night,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Kevin McGibbon was Oprah's favorite things. You get a carry
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: and you get a reception and you get a touchdown play.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: You're probably not going to be able to do that
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: against Arkansas, right? And maybe not against Utah State. And
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: as this season progresses, I think you have to kind
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: of like narrow the focus a little bit.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I have no doubt that way. Sean is going to
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: be leaned on heavily.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I have no doubt that we're going to see Devin
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Dampier allowed to spread his wings, both in the passing
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: game and in the run game. Who else do you
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: think if it does come down to instead of what,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: what do we have? 10 rushers last night, 10 guys
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: with carries who are the maybe five that you see
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: get the bulk of the touches in the run game
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's always going to be damp here.
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: And I think as we saw last night, they like
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: using Bird Ficklin. Um, I mean, bird's just a weapon.
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: He's just explosive, but I think it's probably those top
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: three running backs. I mean, Daniel Bray, way, Sean Parker
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: and Chavez Soto. I think those are going to be
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: your primary run game guys. I mean, I just, I
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: think that's what it's going to be. Um, but as
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: we saw too, Brayden Pagan is fast and he's big
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: and he's strong. They got him on an end around,
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: but I think in the traditional run game, um, It
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: will be the two quarterbacks and then those top three
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: running backs. What's going to become interesting though, too, is,
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: I mean, Hunter Andrews can run the football. He was
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: a running back. He was an all district, all region
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: running back in high school in Texas, and he could
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: catch it too. So he is there. It's just that you,
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: you just, there's, there's one ball. There's about 10 different
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: guys and it's going to be, you know, Maybe it's
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: the old, how did you practice during the week? What
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: kind of effort did you give in practice? Because you
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: know that, Sean, the best motivator can be carries in
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: a game for how you perform in practice. So maybe
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: it goes that way. It's going to be the same
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: thing in a passing game. I think there's a pretty
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: defined top three wide receivers.
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: I think it's Pagan.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: I think it's Johnson.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: And I think it's.
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: Probably Whittemore in the slot. But Larry Simmons, when he
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: touches the ball, makes things happen. That should have been
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: a little nine-yard in-cut route that he turned into a
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: 25-yard pitch and catch or a 30-yard pitch and.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: Catch last night.
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: So I think there's a top three, but a guy
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: like Simmons and maybe a guy like Scholes could threaten
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: that as well.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: What games are you going to be watching this weekend, Bill?
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: I just want to look at Arkansas. I know they're
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: playing northern Alabama, but I just want to get a
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: look at, you know, Ryan Silverfield's team, just to kind
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: of see what is coming in here this, this, this
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: next week and see what they look like again against
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: a Northern Alabama team that they should probably handle. But let's,
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: let's see what they look because it doesn't always work
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: that way. As far as other games that are interesting tonight,
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: Miami Sanford. I mean, I know Miami's got to travel West,
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: but Nothing really intrigues me there. Other games this weekend,
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: I kind of want to duck in and see what
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: Houston looks like. They're hosting Oregon State. Boise State goes
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: to Oregon. Is Oregon what we think they are? Are
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: they going to blow Boise State out? Does Boise get
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: competitive in that game? Kind of want to see that
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: just a little bit, too. Clemson LSU is interesting, even
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: though Clemson's not ranked. You know, is all this stuff
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: at LSU, is all this outside noise a distraction? Is
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: it going to be a distraction to the team, or
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: are they focused on this thing? I think Wisconsin-Notre Dame
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: could be interesting on Sunday, too.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: What about you?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you hit most of the ones I'm
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: going to be looking at. Especially Houston, I want to
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: look at. I want to know what they are before
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: we see this Utah team go against them. Iowa State,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: same thing. They've got Southeast Missouri State, though. There's not
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: a real excellent slate of premier matchups in Week 1,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: but we'll take what we can get because football's back.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: That's absolutely correct, and I'm just glad to have it back.
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: It was just so fun to have everybody back, to
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: strike the stadium last night, and having an SEC team
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: come in next week to a Ricycle Stadium would be
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: a blast.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk before then, but enjoy your weekend, and...
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  Speaker 10: Thanks.
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• 52:06
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  Speaker 2: with The Drive and Spence Check-Ins.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Lots more to get to from this game. I want
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: Best and worst of game number one, a 66-14 demolition
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  Speaker 2: by Utah.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know your best and your worst thing
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: out of the game last night. We're going to do
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: this as an exercise every time Utah football plays. And
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: obviously the first game, when all of us are hyper-focused
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: on one thing or another, and... you're probably rewatching this weekend.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Like I'm rewatching this weekend. You're going to come up
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: with some more things on the rewatch, but at first
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: blush at first glance, the best and the worst thing
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: you saw from Utah football last night, let's, let's focus
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: mostly on the best here because it's a 66 to
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: 14 win. You're wanting to know the best thing about
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: wanting to know is the opportunity to go to a no,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: it went how we thought it was going to go.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: It went how you needed it to go.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: With some moments that Oh, that's not good. There was
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: never a doubt that Utah was going to win this
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: football game from the moment that Idaho got off the
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: bus until the final whistle blew. This was always a
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Utah football win, but there were some moments that you
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: have to create, you have to correct, you have to
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: clean up. I want to know what you saw, but
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I also let's focus on the good stuff because You
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: had 10 guys carry the ball last night, all of
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: them for decent production, for good averages. Our guy Brandon
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Rose got in the game.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: You went down to your third string quarterback in this one.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Daniel Bray. I think we're going to see a lot
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: more of Daniel Bray moving forward. He probably is mad
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: about how the game went last night.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone else is. I think everybody got
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit of frosting.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And that's what this team wanted and needed against the
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: university of Idaho. You play the role of the fan
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: who tells me what you liked and maybe a little
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: bit of what you didn't like.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I'll be the.
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  Speaker 2: Guy that the coaches are like, well, he just shut
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: up because we won a game 66 to 14. Why
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: is he crying that Ethan day didn't have a sack? Well,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: because I wanted to see it. One team sack is
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: something that is going to bother me about this Idaho performance.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Now, Idaho's got a mobile quarterback.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: They've got a pretty experienced, although undersized, relative to the
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: youth's offensive line. And they were getting the ball out.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: They're a well-coached team that knew they had to get
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: the ball out as soon as possible.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: So, all right, good.
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  Speaker 11: 877-353-0700.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Text in or call in and tell me the best
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: and worst part of the game for you. This coming
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: from Adam on the text line. Felt like the game
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: was about a B- for me. Good first game. Impressed
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: with how big guys are. Way Sean and Jackson Benny
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: in particular. Bird looked much improved. Excited for the year
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: and the future. Yeah, I mean, in a game like this,
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  Speaker 2: you got to see the coaches go all the way
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  Speaker 2: down on the depth chart and get some of the
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: younger guys out there and have them play. And there
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: is a talent pipeline, a robust talent pipeline that hopefully
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: has this Utah team set up, at least from a
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: skill position standpoint.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: For years to come. OC, can I share my favorite
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: one of our texts so far?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: So this is my best from the game, is Brian
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Conley's text. All-time win percentage against Idaho is 52%, which
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: is wild. They're now 15-12 against Idaho, but most of
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: those are the 60s and before.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Set that aside.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Against BYU, it's 60%. So we should beat BYU by
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: six or seven touchdowns this year.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously. Obviously. That's we love, we love the rivalry banter.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian, for texting it. John on the, on
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: the phone line. Is that right? 8 7 7 3
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  Speaker 1: 5 3 0 700. John, how are you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sean, Sean, huge fan, huge fan.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I listen to you every day. Thank you.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: Yo.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: So I was like, uh, the way he turned around
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: on that one catch.
• 57:22
  Speaker 13: To ship his body and use his footwork.
• 57:24
  Speaker 14: I think it's going to be.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: Amazing this year.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: And then the other guy got his capacity. He's not
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: going to breathe the sack, the sack.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: Total, but I think he's going to be up there, man.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Speaker 0 7, John, thank you for the phone call.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Carson Cal Fousey is a mountain of a man.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: That is a big boy.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: He was able to, on that twisting stunt, he was
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: able to get the only sack of the game for
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: the university of Utah and his problem. The only problem
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: you're going to have with Carson Kalfusi is pad level, right?
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Because he's so dang big, their offensive linemen are going
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: to try to get underneath him and root him out
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: of the, out of the hole. That's he's going to
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: really have to figure out how to anchor himself down.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: And we saw some good things from the D tackles.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: We also saw like, you know, maybe you need a
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: little bit more stiffness up front when it comes to
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: playing against a one double a team to the first
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: point that John made. I'm trying to It's like going
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: on a first date. If you can remember that phase
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: of your life where you're just like, Oh my gosh,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I might marry that girl. And of course it's not
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: cool to think that way.
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: That's lame. You're supposed to be like, no, no play.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: Cool.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Don't text her for at least a week. Leave it alone.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Definitely don't like, Call her from the vacation that you're
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: taking tomorrow after your first date.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Just enjoy yourself. That's how I feel right now about
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Braden Pagan.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Braden Pagan, I feel like you and I just went
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: on a first date and I want to marry you.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: That was an unbelievable showcase. for his body control, his
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: route running, his sure handedness, his ability to run and
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: to turn the corner and his awareness on finding space
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: and getting up field. Yes, I know it was against Idaho,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: but we, we saw this guy doing it at the
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: mountain West level last year for Utah state.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I think that this is the answer to the question.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: A lot of Utah fans had last year when you
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: saw JJ Buchanan transferring out and leaving for Michigan.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. The bright spot in the past catching
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: game is gone. Now, what are we going to do? Well,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: what you're going to do is you're going to go.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Get the physical equivalent with more experience in Brayden pagan.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Let's bleep and go. He's such a soft-spoken guy, too, OC.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: When a couple of practices that I went up to,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: I was able to be in the media scrum there.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: He's very unassuming when he's talking with the media, at
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: the very least. Maybe he's different when he's talking with
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: his teammates. But, yeah, and then he just goes out
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: and balls out. You love guys like that.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Breaks a couple tackles on that end around, right? Again,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: you don't want to overreact too much. But, Braden, I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: would be the date you went on that would be like,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: all right, it's been two days. I'm going to send
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: the text. I'm buying all the stock in that young man.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: All right, more on the text line.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: 7741 says....
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: How do you not get a yard on fourth and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: one against Idaho?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That if you want to focus on the negative stuff,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: that's obviously something that you are. Morgan's personality is he's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: going to want to go for it on at least
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: half of those this year, the fourth and shorts analytics
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: be damned. He's going to want to say, yeah, you
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: know what? Let's make a point here. You better be
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: able to pin your ears back and make that point.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: You have the running back to do it. You should
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: have the offensive line to do it. That is the question.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I have no doubt that way. Sean Parker can navigate
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: the traffic. Can the offensive line get the push that
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: you need?
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  Speaker 1: 77 41 also makes the point.
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  Speaker 2: Arkansas has one of the best defensive ends in the country.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Going to be a hard task on Saturday. Look, yes,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: this was your practice game. You don't get easy matchups
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: moving forward. Even the stuff on paper that we say, hey,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: you're going to win, they're not easy matchups.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: A second caller. Well, technically a third caller today. I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: love this.
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  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
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  Speaker 1: Edie from Salt Lake. Hello.
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  Speaker 15: Hello. Can you hear me?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I can hear you. Welcome to the show. How are you?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 15: Thank you, Greg. I listened to you after every game as.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 14: We drive home and it was still on when I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 14: got in the car and I thought, why not call?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 15: I got some thoughts about the game.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: All right. Tell me what you think.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 15: So I was thinking that we looked a little less than.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 14: Great in the tight end position. No big plays from
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 14: the tight ends last night, which we've been used to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 14: as a Utah football team.
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  Speaker 15: And I missed that. So because we had time, we
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 15: started looking on the roster to see who we got.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 15: And just wanted to know your thoughts about that. Looks
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 15: like we have a couple, but nothing that stood out.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: So Noah Benny did have his touchdown catch last night
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: on the– the kind of cross the body throwback from
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: bird Ficklin. So Noah came out, one of your tight
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: ends did score. That was a good play, but you're right.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Coming into the year, there was a question about whether
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: or not you had the same strength in the tight
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: end room that we're used to. And I think the,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: the easy answer to that is no, because what we're,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: what we've become accustomed to is NFL tight ends, Dalton Kincaid,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Dallin Bentley, uh, Brant Keithy would have been an NFL
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: tight end or an NFL weapon had his health not
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: betrayed him. Uh, and right now we don't have that.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: As far as we know for this Utah football program,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: that's something these guys are going to have to step up.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Will Monty had a penalty on him last night. I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: think he was the only penalty on the, in the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: whole game. Of course, Hunter Andrews is listed as a
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: tight end, but he's more of like that Swiss army knife,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: kind of like Keith.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: He was. So it's still a question and you're right.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: The tight end room is one of those things we're
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: going to be asking more of, but they did have
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: at least one great play last night.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 14: Yes, they did.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 15: That's true.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 14: And you pointed out penalties that those couple of calls
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 14: that should have been pass interference that were not called
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 14: in our favor were ridiculous last night.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Well, the referees were bad last night.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: And ultimately I think that we can't, no Utah fan
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: can complain about what happened last night because you were
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: given possession back after a muff punt that should have
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: gone to Idaho. Monica Carvalho dropped that deep punt and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: And Idaho had a clear recovery. And then they went
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: to the booth or they went to the replay and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: the penalty was illegal touching on Idaho. The only way
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: that you can illegally touch the ball as a punt
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: team is by going out of bounds and then coming
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: back in bounds to touch it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: That's not what happened.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: The guy who recovered the ball did not run all
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the way out of bounds and then come back and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: recover that ball. That was a, that was a rest
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: giving it back to you when you probably didn't deserve it.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: So referees were really bad last night, including a couple
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: of missed pass interferences. But one of my great hopes
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: for this Utah football team and the Utah football fan
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: base this year is that officiating is not a theme
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: of conversation.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: That means you've got to stay out of close games.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: That means that you can't let BYU get a call
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: that keeps the game alive and then drive all the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: way back down and score. Don't let the call, don't
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: let the officials be a determining outcome in the game.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: They weren't last night, even though they were terrible. Love
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: hearing from you. Thanks for the phone call.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: 877-353-0700.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Darren says, I wish I'd love to call as you
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: know what, Darren, Darren, you could call it.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: After we'll, we'll do this on Monday.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: You could call in after you watch the BYU game
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: this weekend as our resident BYU fan.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: He he's great to always chime in on the Utah topics.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Cause he knows what we do here, home of the Utes.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: But Darren, we love your Utes thoughts, but we, we let's,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: let's get a BYU game under there.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: You can give us your thoughts on, on your kooks. Okay.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Lance from Farmington. That's right. Lance, how are you?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: What's up, Sean?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Man, feeling good. Utes are 1-0, 66-14. What do you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: got for me?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 16: Dude, so first off, huge fan, dude. Appreciate you being
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 16: on the radio. Love listening to your show. Second, I'm
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 16: not stoked on the arm from Devin. From Dan Pierre,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 16: I would like to see You know, more accuracy. I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 16: feel like the receivers have their guys beat three times
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 16: and three times it was under thrown. Like I want
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 16: to see that ball, get to them, get to them
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 16: on time and get to them with space to run.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: If you're, if you're Ryan Gunderson, if you're a quarterback's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: coach talking to dev today, that is 100% of the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: conversation because his game was pretty near perfect otherwise. maybe
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: he could have gotten down and protected his body a
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: little bit more, but it is absolutely something that Devin
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: needs to correct. And I don't think it's an arm
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: strength issue. And I don't think it's an accuracy issue.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's a making sure that he plants his
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: base and strides into the throw issue. You have, when
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: you're putting air under the ball, you have to drive
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: it from the ground.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Don't throw it with your arm.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: He's got a strong enough arm that a lot of
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: these passes, these short and even intermediate balls, he can
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: kind of flick out there because he's running. Sometimes his
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: hips are not necessarily lined up. Sometimes the best quarterbacks
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: in the business, right? The guys that are a far
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: less athletic than Devin Dampier. The reason that the ball
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't drift on them like that doesn't sail or flutter
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: is because they are hyper, hyper disciplined with their footwork.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Watch Tom Brady. Watch Peyton Manning.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is not a good example of this because
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: he throws off.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Platform so much. Watch like Joe Burrow.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: A bunch of these guys, even Josh Allen, who's a
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: really great athlete, a bunch of these guys are hyper-focused
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: on where their feet are before they make those throws.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Jared Goff, the reason Jared Goff has quietly been one
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: of the more efficient quarterbacks in the league for a
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: decade plus now is is because they drive off the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: ground into the throw. That's something that you have to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: get Devin doing on every one of those deep throws.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Like, can he get away with sailing one?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: But why? You don't want to do it. And especially
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: against Idaho last night.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Those throws were not under duress the same way. Some
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: of his throws this year are going to be under duress.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: It was a beautiful game for him in a lot
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: of aspects. That was a concern and you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: And thank you for calling Lance. Keep them coming.
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  Speaker 7: 877-353-0700.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: This might be a new record for calls already. Oh, see,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: we love it. Derek texts to Derek.
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  Speaker 2: The mailman says he used the open mic feature on
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: the app and hopefully we got it. Yeah, we do have,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: we do have the open mic feature on the ESPN
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: 700 app where you can just leave us a voice
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: message on the open mic feature base.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to grab that and play that as soon
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: as we can. Thank you, Derek.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Derek, the mailman that we two mailmen chiming in. Derek
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: is one of the regular mailman. And then we had
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: John from Ogden. So we, we love our delivery drivers, man.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: We know you're out there in your cars all the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: time and you got, and you're listening to us.
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  Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. From last night's game. This is
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: from Cal on the text line. Best.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I like what I'm seeing from pagan worst seeing Idaho
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: drive down on the defense.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: So here's, here's the thing, right? You don't, you don't
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: want as a.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Coaching staff to to go out there, to watch the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: film and say, I know exactly what we're going to
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: focus on, but you also kind of do want that.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: You don't want there to be anything costly that killed you.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: You don't want to put stuff on film for next
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: week's opponent. And Arkansas is going to be watching this
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: same exact cut up tape and say, look at that.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Idaho is able to drive down on these guys. What
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: do you think we can do to them?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: You don't want to let them build their confidence that way.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: But as a Utah coaching staff, for dev, the fluttering
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: throws for the entire defense. I promise you Colton Swan
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: has watched that drive eight to 10 times already. And
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: he's probably sitting there with a, you know, he's probably
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: got like some spur that he spins or what's the,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: what's the fidget thing for a cowboy for Colton Swan.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: He doesn't chew tobacco. I don't think so.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: He's got some spur in his hand spinning. Maybe he's
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: got his Lariat. Maybe he's got his rope.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: He's doing it. He's practicing his lasso. He's thrown.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: He's just throwing that lasso over one of those fake
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: steer heads in his office. You know, he's got it
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: on a rolly chair and he's, he's heading that thing
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: while he's watching film. I don't know, but I promise
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: you Colton Swan looks at that drive and says, never
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: again in my life. Will a team like Idaho do
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: something like that to our defense?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: He's kind of, kind of growling as he just out
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: of frustration as he's roping his steer in his office.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: And I'll bet you the visual and we'll get to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: talk to Colton Swan, not next week, but the next,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: we got Mac G next week, Mac G Kevin, but
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: given in coordinators corner, cannot wait to talk to him.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to, I'm going to really grill him. You're
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: old OC. Yes, that's right. Oh, C's OC.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, Hey, Why don't you, why don't you
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: dial it up to Hunter Andrews a little bit more?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, why didn't you play me more? Hey, why didn't,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: why didn't.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: She only multiple walk again? By the way, if I'm
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: not mistaken, he was in at D tackle late.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: In the game. Was he, do we see semi on
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: the defensive side? We never saw him on the defensive side.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty sure we saw Sione on the defensive
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: side late in the game when, when the threes were playing.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: And for anyone who might be, you know, you're just
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: tuning in now, the real football season's here for real.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: First of all, welcome back. We appreciate you every year
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: or welcome for the first time. We appreciate you. But
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: if you're like looking at the roster and going, Hold on.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: We got two tight ends who are 300 pounds or
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: almost 300 pounds. What's up with that? That's that rhino
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: we've been talking about. That's big boy Semmy. That's Sione.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine being a defender looking at 300-pound tight.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Ends across from you? You got to tackle it at
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: some point. 877-353-0700 if you want to call in, if
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: you want to weigh in on the text line. The
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Idaho drive from the Utah defensive perspective is going to
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: be watched and picked apart and drilled and practiced and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: whatever mistake you made to allow that drive to happen.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Every position group is culpable in this, by the way.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: And there were a couple of plays last night where
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Idaho had a couple drops that would have been costly
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: plays for Utah. Now, nothing that would have changed the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: outcome of the game. Like Jackson, Benny was in man
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: coverage a lot and they were trying to pick on him.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: So did Arkansas see something in there? They're like, Oh,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: you know, there was a couple of throws that got
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: missed on this Jackson, Benny guy covering in the slot.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: We can win that matchup and our quarterback will put
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: that ball where it belongs. Like all of that stuff
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: is concerning. at least from a coaching perspective. I don't
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: think you need to worry about it as a fan
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: because they're going to get it cleaned up. And obviously
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Benny's enough of an athlete and they're going to figure
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: all that stuff out. But there's definitely teachable moments from
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: that first game of the season. Michael Dawson on the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: text line said, I love Morgan's willingness to keep his
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: fingers out of the offense. Worst part of the game
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: was Idaho's mismatch. Idaho's management of the D line.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Look, Hoopoo Cepulona said, Jai Moy, Carson Kalfusi.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think we saw Sam Sula or if we did,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: it was barely. I don't think we saw a lot
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: of jam Wallace. I need every one of those D
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: linemen to be better. I need every one of the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: defensive ends to be better on the second touchdown for Idaho.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: It was Lance Holtzclaw that got contained, broke. Lance is
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: supposed to be a leader on this defense. He is
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: supposed to be a guy that you can rely on. Now,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I will give you a pass on a play or
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: two here and there. That was a touchdown play against
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: a 1AA team, man. You can't put that on film.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: We're nitpicking because that's what we do, but you got
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: to be careful about all these things.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: 877-353-0700.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Who do we have from Brigham City?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Dave from Brigham City. I was just up at old Maddox's.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: The Maddox Steakhouse last weekend. Maybe I saw Dave there.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Hi, Dave.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Doing all right. What do you have for me, sir?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Well, for starters, we missed that guy in the defensive
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: line that demands a double team on every play. We
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: don't have a true dog. that demand the double team
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: every time. The drive that they went down and scored,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: they didn't even pack the box. They weren't even in
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: it like a goal-line stance. I don't know what somebody
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: was thinking out there, but, you know, you got three yards.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: You better pack that box and pack it heavy, pack
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: it deep, fill every gap. It's like they went through
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: us like a cheese grater. I mean, it was bad.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Well, everyone was at the line of scrimmage.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: It's just that Kinchelow kid, the former walk-on from Idaho,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: he just.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: The guard won his battle, and the running back won
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: his battle, and it was, what, three yards, and he
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: was in.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: You're right. You don't want to see that for Utah football.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: You don't.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: It wasn't... Yeah, you usually pack every hole, and, I mean,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: you know, you go back to some of the greatest
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: goal-line stances ever that Utah's had.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: first and one, second and one, third and one, fourth
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: and one, and they stuff them every time. And it
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: all gets back to that one dog. You know, was
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: it Star-Lord DeLay? Was it Steve Fafita? We need someone
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: like that to step up and say, hey, I want
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: to be that man that demands a double team. And
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: that'll open up another gap to fill where you can
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: smack those people in the mouth. I mean, it just
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: seems like they just... Lacked a little effort, lacked a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: little more size than we're used to. And I was
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: kind of disappointed in that, that the starters gave up
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: that drive. But other than that, overall, I'll give the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: entire defense a B. Better than average, but they're going
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: to earn every win from here on out. And to
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: say I saw a playoff team last night, I don't
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: think I saw a playoff team last night. I didn't
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: see a Big 12 championship team last night. There's still
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of work to do. I mean, they're a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: good team, but are they great?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a great phone call.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: And the difference between good and great in college football
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: is often a pretty massive leap. So maybe great comes
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: against Arkansas. Maybe we don't see it until the BYU game.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe we don't see it at all this year, but
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: you're right. Last night was good. I don't, I don't
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: expect perfection. I There's plenty to bite onto and to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: improve upon. I think the fans have been pretty realistic
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: about their expectations and about their.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Reaction.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I appreciate everyone's feedback. I think that even the people
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: who've weighed in, I mean, these are passionate Utah fans.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: All of you are right. I think that you're looking
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: at this the right way.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: By being excited about a win impressed with the 66
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: point performance, but also saying that's not going to be
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: as easy next time around. If that happens against Idaho,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: it's going to look a lot uglier against Houston, that
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: kind of a thing. One more text before we get
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: to a break here, 67.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: 78 bud from Lehigh looked like our D line really
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: struggled to get to the quarterback has to get better,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: especially against a team like Idaho.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: That I think was my biggest problem, but is pass
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: rush is so critically important for a defense to achieve.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: As you get into more meaningful games, you have got
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: to pressure a quarterback. If you let some of these
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: guys and the, I know kid was good. He's a
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: solid quarterback. Joshua would How much eligibility does he have left?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: He's a senior, right?
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: So Joshua would, we'll probably be on a better roster
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: next year. If he decides to stay in college football,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: which he probably will, because you know, that's how it
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: goes when you're an FCS guy, he'll have his five
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: years to play five. I think we might see him
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: playing for a Mount West school or a Sunbelt school
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: or something like that next year.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I think he's a solid, solid player.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: The, the inability to play, get to that guy and
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: to take that guy down, he missed some throws that
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: bear Bachmeier and Connor Wegman are going to make that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Noah Fafita is going to make. That's an alarm bell.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: That's okay to ring in week one and also okay
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: to say, you know what? We could probably improve that
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: because again, you've got a whole new pass rush with
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: the exception of cash. Dylan, you're basically integrating all new guys.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Elijah Ellis is going to be part of that, but
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: how much, right? And he's getting his real first, like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: every down kind of run. Now acknowledge the problems, but
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: expect improvement. And when I say expect improvement, don't just
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: demand it and say it has to be better, but
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: trust that this coaching staff is going to make adjustments
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: and get these guys better. That's why they're paid the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: big bucks. They're capable of doing it. And the players
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: are as well. You know what I'll say, OC?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: There's plenty of things to nitpick about and totally valid
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: to do that. A lot of the things our listeners
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: have brought up are definitely valid. But I'll say this.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: Wasn't it great to come out of a season opener
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: and not be talking about missed tackles? Not be talking about, man,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: the tackling was terrible. I'm really concerned about that. It
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: feels like it's been a while since we've had that.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm overlooking the UCLA game last year or something
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: like that, but it's been a recent problem, and it
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: was really nice to see, aside from the Tillman missed
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: sack there, you had really solid tackling, and that was
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: not what the mistakes came from.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: The tackling was, for the most part, good. The one
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: glaring missed tackle was like a really, really, really bad one.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Really bad. But, you know, again, first game.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: And someone's going to be probably running for that at practice.
• 1:22:10
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• 1:22:11
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• 1:22:13
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• 1:22:18
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• 1:22:20
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• 1:22:23
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• 1:22:26
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• 1:22:29
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• 1:24:04
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• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: that most of the NHL masks and veggie is supposed
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: to be rolling out a new Utah mammoth mask this year.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: That's got like Tusky on it.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Basically you might have to get that thing repainted. If
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: this trade goes through, because we have no idea what's
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: being offered or what's being bandied back and forth, but
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Winnipeg apparently interested in acquiring potentially, um, Veggie, they've also,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: this report I'm looking at, says they would maybe, even
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: if the Mammoth don't want to offer Veggie, then maybe
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Sebastian Cosa would be something that Winnipeg would be interested in. Also,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: and you don't like this, Caleb Desnoyers and Tija Ginla
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: have been on Winnipeg's radar for a while, as has
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Jack McBain, according to multiple reports.
• 1:25:03
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• 1:25:09
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• 1:25:16
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• 1:25:17
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• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: You know what, bill Armstrong, maybe don't talk to Danny
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: Ainge before you, before you leak something, just big game.
• 1:25:31
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• 1:25:33
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• 1:25:36
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• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: significant pipeline of young talent coming out of Arizona and
• 1:25:45
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• 1:25:49
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• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: young and considered to be on the rise. You just
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: gave up a lot of young talent to add Vincent
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Trocheck to this roster. Is Hellebuck a guy that you're
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: looking at and saying, absolutely, he can be a foundational goaltender?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: That's what you thought you had made a decision on
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: Veggie for that. Now, statistically, numbers-wise, Veggie actually was slightly
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: better than Hellebuck was last year, both in his win-loss
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: record and his goals against average. And by the way,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: that was playing a lot more than Connor Hellebuck played.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the win-loss makes a lot of sense because Mammoth
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: were a playoff team Winnipeg was not last year. But
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: I think I'm thrilled that they're absolutely entertaining this OC
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: because there's probably two weak spots as far as if
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: you're thinking of how can the Mammoth win the Stanley Cup, right?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: There's probably two weak spots. And one of those weak spots,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: all due respect to Veggie, is the goaltending. A lot
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: more stronger goaltending is what you need to have in
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, especially. And then the other one is the physicality.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, Vegas out-physicaled the Mammoth in the playoffs. More hits,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: especially earlier in the series. That's one of the reasons
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: I would not be thrilled if they had to give
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: up Jack McBain in a trade for Connor Hellbuck.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: But also.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: You got to be really careful, even though I think
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: that this is the right move to at least try
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: to get Connor Hellebuck because it addresses one of your
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: weak points on the team here in a major way.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Well, from a name value standpoint, yes, but Connor Hellebuck.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: The recency, like he wasn't as good last year. He
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: wasn't as good last year. He wasn't as good as
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: veggie was last year.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: It's true.
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  Speaker 4: But two years ago, he was a Vesna trophy winner
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: in February. He won USA, the gold medal against the
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: best team in the world.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: And you have to allow for the fact that maybe
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: he wasn't stellar for the jets last year because of
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: that partially could be it. And also because if you're
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: not happy somewhere, right? Like these are human beings. I
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: know professional athletes are supposed to rise above it, but
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: if you're no longer happy and if you're like a
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: really great player playing for a franchise, that's underperforming, it's very,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: very difficult to go out there every single night and,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: and give your best and be your very best.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: And Hellebuck in his public statement, which just came out,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Hellebuck mentioned that like, look, I made this trade request
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: months and months ago, quietly.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted to handle this in house.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be a dignified process for myself and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: for the club. I didn't want it to be something
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: that grabbed headlines. Hellebuck was, he hasn't been happy in
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Winnipeg for a long time. So if that affects his performance,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, far be it for me to tell bill
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Armstrong what to do at what, in my opinion, either
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: tied for, or second, most important position in all of
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: team sports, right? That's something that you have to get right.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: If this team is going to move forward and be
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: Stanley cup contenders is getting it right. Acquiring Connor Hellebook.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: And if so, at what cost is getting it right?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: Staying the course with Corral, the Melka This is a big,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: big decision for the Utah mammoth. And at first, when
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: this trade demand was made and a lot of these
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: people were putting out kind of like their most likely destinations,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: it was Buffalo.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Everyone's like, he's going to end up in Buffalo. He's
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: going to be with the Sabres.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: And now Utah is rapidly rising into this conversation as
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: like a most or second most likely landing spot for
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Connor Hellebuck.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: We have mammoth hockey, preseason hockey in two weeks, by
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is late in the game to be doing this, probably,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: but you make a good point on a couple of
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: reasons why you might not want to pull the trigger
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: if you're Bill Armstrong. If it gets to the point
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: where you're like, yeah, we're probably going to trade him
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: to you guys. We just need to agree on what
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: you're going to send us. If that includes too many
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: of your young future goal-scoring stars like T.J. Ginla, for example,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: Caleb Denoyer, That's probably a reason not to do it.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: And again, let's just change his number. Yeah. He's 77 now.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: Cause Paterka. Cause Paterka's gone. He was 77. So that's
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: a reason not to do it. Another reason not to
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: do it might be if you're going to hang, if
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: you hang on to veggie, what's that, what's that dynamic
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: going to be like, where the guy who's been your
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: guy to the point where you started him damn near
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: every game is now, okay, we still love you, but
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: you're not going to start very much for us. Cause
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: we got to get, we got a guy who think
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: is better. Is that going to negatively affect the, you know,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: the chemistry thing that can be pretty delicate as we
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: know in, in all teams sports. So if you have
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: concerns about that, you maybe don't do it. And certainly
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: if you're giving up too many of your young talent to,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: to address, yes, a very important need, but also, uh,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: Are you sacrificing too much of your future? That's probably
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: a reason not to do it either. And there's risk because,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: like you said, Hellbuck is not exactly coming off his
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: best season. But, man, I still love that they're in
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: the conversations and that they've rose to a lot of
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: the insiders, one of the likely destinations for him because
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: that is such a huge thing.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: For the mammoths. If they're going to get further in
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, Speaker 0 7, 07, here's what I think.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: I think veggie's not going anywhere because veggie has a
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: 10 team, no trade clause.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: That's in his contracts. You're not waving that.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: And Winnipeg would be one of the teams that absolutely
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: is on the no trade clause, unless he has like
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: family there for some convoluted reason. You're not like you're
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: putting Winnipeg on the 10 team, no trade list, right?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Probably like they're on there. I would imagine it's not
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: public who is on there and who is not, but
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: he's on a five-year deal that he just signed in
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: March of 2025. He's, you know, about 5 million a year.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: And the Melka was the most active goaltender in the
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: league last year. So that's another thing you have to
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: talk about. If you're in the front office with the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Utah mammoth right now, like, veggies goals against average and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: hella bucks goals against average are separated by nine one
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: hundredths of a point, right? So it's apples to apples
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: for the most part, but also my guy played seven
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: more games. My guy was probably playing exhausted sometimes on
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: these long road trips. He, the veggie had to play
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: more than literally every other goaltender in the league, even
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: than hella buck. So if we take a little bit
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: of that pressure off of him and with Cosa, or
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: we take a little bit of that pressure off of
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: him by somehow getting Hellebuck in the same building and
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: then splitting it 50-50 or 60-40 or whatever else, maybe
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: we get more out of Edgy. I don't know how
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: it's going to work, man. But this is fascinating because
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: we are right around the corner. Regular season starts for
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Utah in October. Let me pull up my mammoth. It's
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: about a month away. I think it is exactly a
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: month away, if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Is it October 4th? Let's see.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Let me go to, I'm just flexing on, on everybody
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: right now. Where's my tickets here. My tickets.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was wrong. I was wrong. Thursday, October 1st.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: We're less than a month. We are less than a
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: month away.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: This is this late in the game to be making
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: this big of a move, but I think it could
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: end up being a big difference.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: For the mammoth and them getting further in the playoffs.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: That's all for the daily dump. We take a break.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Lee Sterling, the number one handicapper in the business gives
• 1:34:08
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• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, our long nightmare is over.
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• 1:34:41
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• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: His name is Lee Sterling, and for entertainment purposes, he
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: will guide us through the lines on a college football weekend.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Lee Sterling, good friend of the show. How are you, sir?
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: I'm great. I am terrific. First time in a long time,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: took a long vacation, went to Norway. You ever been there?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: I have never been to Norway. I've been to Sweden,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: but not Norway.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: Put it on your bucket list. The fjords are incredible
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: with the waterfalls and the glaciers and the people. That's
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: a country that has figured it out. I didn't know
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: they say They ended up finding oil offshore in 69,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: and they just keep reinventing and just keep taking that money.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: They're making it and investing it, and every person gets
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: a nice return every year, a nice paycheck, and they
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: get free health care. There's no homeless. The only problem, well,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: there's two problems. It gets cold in the winter, and.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: You're six hours ahead. Following sports is practically impossible.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: That is tough. But shout out to Norway. Maybe I'll
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: have to pay a visit sooner than later.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: Man, great to have football back, Lee, and excited to
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: have you back on.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: Let's dive right into the lines.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Coming up for this weekend, uh, Oregon Boise state and
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: the ducks are big time favorites here. This is not
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: in most people's opinion, the Boise state of old that
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: might be more capable of.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Pulling off an upset like this one. It's also not
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: the Oregon of old. This is one of the top
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: payrolls in college football. How do you see it?
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: Well, here's the problem with Boise. They just don't have
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: the money. They can't keep their players. They're able to
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: keep their quarterback, but.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: Not much else.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: So, uh, Last time they played Oregon, they had to scramble.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: The Ducks had to score with 10 minutes to go
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: on a 100-yard kickoff return to tie that game up
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: and then win it on the last play of the game.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: I think this is going to be a different game
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: than two years ago. So the only difference is they
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: have two new coordinators, and that actually might help them
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: in game planning. I don't think Boise knows what to
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: expect here, and any of those kids who are around
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: two years ago, there's a lot of them, they're going
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: to be forewarned, and I think they're going to want
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: to lay one here on Boise. So Boise switching conferences
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: went to a much weaker conference. I don't like the
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: switch here. I think the Ducks' role here behind Dante Moore,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: sometimes you've got to lay it if you want to
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: play it here. Ducks, 45-17.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Do you believe Oregon is a national championship contender because
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: it's championship or bust for them from here on out
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: as long as Uncle Phil's writing checks on this payroll?
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Is this a year where they're national championship contenders for you?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: It's the only year that they have a chance, but
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: I still think that there's a couple other teams that
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: are just better than them, and they just have the
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: DNA to pull it off. But how great would it
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: be if the Ducks faced Miami and Mario faces his
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: old team? That would be something.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: The old master versus the successor in Dan Lanning trying
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: to get it done up there.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: That'd be a fun storyline. All right, we're the home
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: of the Utes.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: We will see the Aggies of Utah State, not this
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: coming weekend, but the following for week three. Utah State
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: are 12.5-point favorites against Idaho State, a big sky team,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: much like the one Utah played last night. The Aggies
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: lost their starting quarterback, Bryson Barnes. He's in the Canadian
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: Football League now. They're favorites here, but not by much.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: How do you see it?
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I still think that there's a talent discrepancy here.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: And I think that Hill said, I think that he's
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: going to be good enough for them. Here's a guy that,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: you know, can run and throw the football. He's played
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: against good competition, you know, being at BYU. And I
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: like some of their transfers. You don't know them. I mean,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: they're not big names, but some of these guys– I
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: think they did some really good scouting. They played a
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: lower-level school, especially on defense. Comic colleges like St. Thomas, Mississippi,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: Valley State, and also, like I said, they always get
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: guys from BYU looking to get more playing time. So
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: I like Utah State here. I think the home field
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: advantage is big here. And also, I think their special
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: teams will be improved over last year, where they're only
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: ranking 113th out of 134 teams. So they get those
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: return games going with Jacobs, Javon Jacobs. They're going to
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: be tough to beat. I like the Aggies here. I
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: think they win in cover here, 35 to 20.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe one of the headline games of this opening weekend,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: which lacks, if I'm being honest, which lacks like big
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: time premier matchups, but from a brand value standpoint and
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: certainly from a headlines, a recent headline standpoint, Clemson LSU
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: carries a bit of intrigue to it. LSU for, as
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: far as we know, is going to have a couple
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: of former NFL guys on the roster after winning that
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: case yesterday, they are ranked Clemson is not at least
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: not in the preseason LSU, 10 point favorites.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: How does this one play out?
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: And I think that, you know, dabble, you know, he
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: might have an expiration date on his stay here in Clemson.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: So you watched him last year. I mean, everything that
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 5: could go wrong, went wrong. His quarterback, Kate Klubnick, who,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: you know, there for four years, everyone thought after the
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 5: freshman year, he's going to be the next coming, never
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: got it done. They finished seven and six. He goes
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: to the Jets training camp and looks great. So probably
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: wasn't the kid, probably the coaching and getting him to
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: play at a high level. They even lost four of
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: the top five defensive linemen, not able to get the
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: best out of those guys. There was projections two years
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: ago that three or four of those guys were going
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: to be top 10 picks. LSU had trouble running the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: football last year, just 104 rushing yards per game. They've
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: got to pick that up, only 10 rushing touchdowns. They
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 5: ranked 118th out of 134 teams running the football. But,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: you know, you get the best offensive tackle, maybe a
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: kid that goes in the first round from Colorado, another
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: couple guys there, a couple receivers in the transfer portal
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: that will open up the passing game. And Sam Levitt,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: when he's healthy, and he is right now, he may
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: not be in four or five weeks. They're going to
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: be a team that is going to be tough to
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 5: reckon with. So I know Dabo would like to finish
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: strong here, maybe have a big season, move on to
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: Alabama as alma mater, but I don't think it's going
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: to be happening. This place is going to be rocking.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: They say they might blow the top off the stadium
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: here on Saturday night. LSU rolls here, LSU Tigers, 30
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: Clemson Tigers, 17.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: We certainly haven't heard the last Lee of this like
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: big picture stuff with pro players coming back in and LSU,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: they're the ones who are willing to die on this hill.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: The sec is like, nah, we're not going to let
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: this happen. So I mean, is this going to be
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: a storyline that plays out through the season or are
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: we going to shelve it until after it's done?
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: I think it's not going to play out for more
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: than a week, 10 days, and then they'll have to
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: decide which way to go. But, I mean, LSU is
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: kind of caught in the middle. They're saying they need
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 5: to play the kids, and the conference is saying, no,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: you don't. So, you know, maybe we need to open
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: up a new TV station. You know, you have court TV.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: Call it sports court TV. There's at least one case
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: going on every week everyone wants to see that involves sports.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: There's at least one athlete or ex-athlete. you know, that,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: that has a court case is arrested. Can you imagine
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  Speaker 5: you got, you know, guys on the scene, here we go.
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  Speaker 5: We got a Georgia offensive lineman pulled over for 85
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  Speaker 5: and a 25, you know, show the footage there. How
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  Speaker 5: great would that be?
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: No limit on the stuff we could get in this
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: year of college football, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: High expectations for BYU as they start their season under
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Kalani Satake after a little, minor athletic department turmoil in
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: the off season. I don't think anything that affects players,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: but certainly a distraction for Kalani and some of the
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: coaches with that whole Brian Santiago situation. They are massive
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: 51 and a half point favorites against Utah tech, who
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: is still a pretty recent addition to division one football.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Can BYU cover on a line this fat?
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: It seems like one of the few schools that's able
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: to play some of these schools in Utah tough is
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: Weber State. Isn't that where you went to school also
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: to finish your career?
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  Speaker 1: Weber State, yes. Utah Tech, though? Utah Tech.
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  Speaker 6: No, no.
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  Speaker 5: Utah Tech, I mean, the talent. I was watching their
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: game last week. They just don't have the players right now. And,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: you know, it just depends on how long the BYU
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: keeps their starters in. They have Arizona next week, which
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 5: is a big game. So I think they're going to
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: keep their starters in at least three quarters. And I
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: just think Utah Tech, I mean, they should be playing
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: probably NAIA Division III ball. They're just not at this
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: level just yet. fear Bachmeier and also LJ Martin should
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: have huge games. And I think they're going to try
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: to get some of the young receivers, you know, and,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 5: and some of the transfer guys, some action. So I
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: like BYU. I think they win this game here, 65
• 1:44:14
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  Speaker 1: Also, the UFC.
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  Speaker 5: We've won 13 of the last 15 cards and got robbed,
• 1:45:30
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  Speaker 7: I didn't.
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  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 5: It was clearly one, one out of the judges and the,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: I think it's the 15 ring side of observers. They
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: had it one, one watched the last round of that fight.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: We had Jenkins plus one 25. I thought he dominated
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 5: the round. I don't think woods had landed six, seven
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: punches the entire round. He shakes his head, you know, no,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: every time he gets hit. But, uh, I thought it
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: was one of the biggest robberies. One of the judges,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: I've never seen his name before who judged the fight
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: at a, out of Shanghai. But, you know, I guess
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: they pick up some guys. They don't want to fly people,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: you know, halfway around the world. But I thought it
• 1:46:13
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• 1:46:15
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  Speaker 2: Lee, we got less than a month until the UFC
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: returns tonight. to Salt Lake city and no announced main
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: event yet.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. Crazy. They got it. They got to
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: figure it out.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: Lee, you're the man. I'm glad we're doing this again
• 1:46:44
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• 1:47:01
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• 1:47:09
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• 1:47:19
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• 1:47:24
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• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to open up the phone lines again. Text
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: line is always open, 877-353-0700. Your reactions and overreactions to
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: the opening game of the Utah football season last night
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: against Idaho. We're marching towards an airing of grievances that
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: will come in 25 minutes. And some other big stuff happened,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: at least for the Big 12 last night.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. It's the Sean O'Connell Show on
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• 1:48:05
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• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: In 20 minutes here on the Sean O'Connell show on
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: a Friday. Let me know how you feel, which you
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: have to get off your chest sports related or otherwise.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Give me your airing of grievances. Mine is one that
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: you're going to hear me.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Give a Probably multiple times every football season. It's broadcaster related,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: and I feel like I can do it because if
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: I make the same mistake that other people were making
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: on the broadcast last night, I want you to call
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: me out for it. But 877-353-0700. When you're ready to
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: air your grievances, we'll read them on the air. You
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: can call and air it yourself. The Utah football victory
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: last night, 66-14 over Idaho. with a 600-plus point offensive,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: not point, 600-plus yard offensive explosion.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: There are people that.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: Didn't like the fact that Kevin McGiven went deep enough
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: into his bag to show those weird formations and versatility.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Here's what we know, okay?
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: If you listen to Dishing with Dev, he mentioned that
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: there are 200 and some odd plays in the Utah
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: playbook that they have practiced, that they have already installed,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: that they have tried, that they have workshopped over 200
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: plays in the Utah playbook that they have actually run
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: in practice as of now.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot. Oh, see, is that a lot?
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of plays. Okay. Like they didn't know.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: They weren't exactly conservative with the play calling offensively. There
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: wasn't a ton of like hyper trickeration either. There actually
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't all that much motion like to try to give
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: the defense different looks. There was formational stuff, but there
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't a huge amount of motion being run in that game.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Utah ran 49 run plays last night.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: And 17 pass plays that last night, that is 66
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: offensive snaps.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty typical numbers.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: What you're going to get in a non-overtime college football game,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: anywhere from high fifties to low eighties is a normal range,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: depending on how fast your offense goes, whether you huddle,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: whether you don't huddle with your opponent huddles, doesn't huddle
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: winning time of possession versus losing it, et cetera.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: If you run in the mid-60s of plays and already
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: you've installed and practiced 200-plus, I don't think you went
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: too far into your bag.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think that you showed too much.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: And also, you can't keep people happy because the previous
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: staff was.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: Always given crap for not showing anything. right to vanilla.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: This offense is vanilla again.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody woke up today and said, wow, that Utah offense
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: was really vanilla last night.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: And it could be just Kevin McGiven proven that point
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: to himself and to everyone else. Like just wait, watch
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: what we're starting with. It's gotta be fun people.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: He is, he has the offensive weapons the skill position
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: players to do things that he has never done before
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: in any of his previous stops. I have stressed this
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: so many times at Weber state at San Jose state
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: at Utah state. If your school ends in state, you
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: don't have the same kind of weapons that Kevin McGivern
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: is going to be using and going to be deploying
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: in this offense. Offensive line, it's going to be on
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: you to make sure that that creativity is rewarded rather
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: than punished because some of that can take a little
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: bit longer of a play to develop. Some of it
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: can be a little bit harder to block.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: Some of the, if there is a downside to quarterback athleticism, then.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: You got to worry about, you know, like do the
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: offensive line know where your quarterback is? If there is
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: a negative downside, aspect to having a bird Ficklin and
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: a Devon damp here.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: But 8 7 7 3 5 3 0 700.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Love to hear from you.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: If you want to tell me your best and worst
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: of the game last night, if you want to air
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: your grievances, we can, is this Alec from vineyard?
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 8: This is Hey, OC.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: What's up?
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: I'm great. How are you?
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 8: Doing good. It's been a while since I've been able
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 8: to give you an update on the whole sauna, you know,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 8: grievances that we've shared multiple times.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, I need to know what's been going on with
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: your sauna life.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 8: So we've, you know, we've gone over a lot of things,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 8: whether it's been couples, you know, engaging in PDA and,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 8: you know, gentlemen taking business calls and whatnot.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 8: The latest update is, and I didn't even know this
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 8: was still a thing. Maybe I'm just, I guess, too
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 8: young to think that it was still going on. I
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: have been recruited at least two separate times to sell
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 8: Cutco knives in the sauna over the past couple weeks.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 8: And not only that, but real estate as well. But
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 8: real estate is not as big of a deal because
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 8: I'm a real estate agent, so I can kind of
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 8: respect it, even though it's annoying. But the Cutco knives,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 8: that blew my mind. I thought that was a 90s thing.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: Now, I had.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: So I got my teeth done. I got veneers on
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: my top teeth years ago.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 4: And.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: as a gift of appreciation from my phenomenal dentist office,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: I guess for spending so much money, they gave me
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: a Cutco carving knife with like the fork. And I
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: was like, Oh man, I remember when these things were
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: a big deal. I remember like thinking back in the
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: day in my childhood, probably because of infomercials that a
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: Cutco knife was like the peak of luxury. And now
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: I'm a proud owner of one. Thanks to my dentist.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Shout out Tyler Williams. But yeah, I didn't know that
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: people were still doing that as like a profession.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: I thought you could just go online and grab them.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 8: And they're still presenting it from what I remember in
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 8: the exact same way where it's like, Hey, I haven't,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 8: they'll be super subtle about it and really vague where
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 8: they'll say, I have a great business opportunity. If you're
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: looking for a side hustle or another stream of income
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 8: and you'll let you ask, what is it? And they'll say, well,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 8: I'd love to meet with you. And then, you know,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 8: it continue on. You find out, Oh, Okay.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: You want to meet with me about Cutco knives?
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: Come on.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is a grievance.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 8: This is a grievance just because, you know, again, I
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 8: love the sauna, and it's a place to relax and
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 8: unwind and detox and, you know. get all the stresses
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 8: from the night before the Utah football game where they
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 8: didn't look perfect and we're all expecting them to. And,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 8: you know, we, we try to nitpick every little thing
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 8: that we can. And yeah, I get a sales pitch
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 8: about cut co knives and ask you if I want
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 8: to sell real estate. So, you know, I'm just, I'm
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 8: in the worst place too. I'm in the South Jordan
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 8: Eos as we speak right now. And it's just, this
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 8: is the worst place for it.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: So, and you're like, dude, I'm already selling real estate.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 8: I'd like to hear their pitch though, to see how
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 8: bad mine is compared to theirs.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Well, give us your best and worst of the game
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: last night since we have you here.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so, I mean, I noticed it a couple different
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 8: times throughout the game. My biggest grievance is on the
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: offensive lines and defensive lines. I know that we're switching
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 8: guys back and forth on the offensive line to see
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 8: what combination works best, but it seemed like we weren't–
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 8: great at protection, and Dan Peter took some hits that
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 8: I didn't love to see. It just gave me flashbacks
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 8: of Cam getting drilled. Defensively, though, there were a couple
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 8: different times where our defensive end seemed to over-pursue and
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 8: let the quarterback get out of the pocket really easy,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 8: and that, I just, I know we were blitzing a lot,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 8: but I wasn't thrilled with I guess gap integrity on
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 8: the defensive line and, you know, containing the quarterback. So,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 8: you know, if we do have to face another more
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 8: mobile quarterback this season, I don't know how good Arkansas is,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 8: but that was, that was concerning to say the least.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: Great, great concerns and an awesome grievance again, sauna related
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: Alex entire life revolves around these issues in the sauna,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: or at least that's the picture in my mind. I'm
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: sure he's got a fully fleshed out, experience as a human,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: but I think he just lives in a sauna.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: I think he's just always in the sauna. Just like that's,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: that's my sleep. Sleeps in a sauna. Just like you
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 4: and I, we live in the studio.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: We don't ever leave.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: You see that kid, by the way, that went viral
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: last week. Cause he lives in a pond in India. No,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: like a hippopotamus. He like lives in a pond. He's
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: like a 16 year old kid. Who's got some weird
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: skin condition. So he just lives in a pond.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: Okay. It helps his, it helps his skin.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: You do you, I guess. Well, I mean, who knows?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: You never know. You never know.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why he has the skin condition. You never
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: know his stories out of India. That's a good point.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: If I'm talking about, like, where would I want to
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: live if I was going to live in a pond? Like,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: standing water. I've never been to India, to be fair.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: But standing water in that country would probably be the
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: last place I would.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: Want to live in a pond. Just, again, based on
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: just things we've heard. Not that either of us have experienced. Look,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: everyone's guilty of peeing in the pool. If you live
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: in the pond. I don't know what you're talking about,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: If you, if you live in the pond or you're
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 4: also peeing in the pond, like why wouldn't you be
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: like you jump in the lake to go wakeboarding, right?
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: We all know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: You're, you're surfing in the ocean. Come on. Nothing against it.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: But if you live in that body of water, are
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: you still doing it? I don't know, man. You're going
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: to your neighbor's pond. 8 7 7 3 5 3
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  Speaker 1: 0 700.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Grievances will be aired sooner than later. Yeah. We let,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's our guy, Alex. It's a preemptive grievance.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: And he had, he called because he had thoughts in
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 4: the game and he's like, maybe I can sneak a grievance.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, absolutely.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: It was kind of a grievance on, on something football
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: related to the over pursuit, right?
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: You had at least one jumps to mind.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: Where Elijah Ellis over pursued, got himself a little off balance.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: saw one where Cyrus Polo did not, I wouldn't say
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: he over pursued, but he didn't come to balance to
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: finish the play.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: And this is one of the most difficult things about
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: the dynamic that exists in football camp, because you cannot
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: tackle the quarterback, not the best quarterback. And in Utah's case,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: They weren't tackling the best two quarterbacks. Bird Ficklin wasn't
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: getting touched in live drills and neither was Devin Dampier.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe Brandon Rose got sacked a bunch in camp. And
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: maybe they teed off on Brandon. But even then, like
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: you don't even sack your scout team quarterback because that
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: guy's valuable.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah. You need him to,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: you need him to be. the, you need to be
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: bear Bachmeier later in the season.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: So Speaker 2, I don't know exactly how they're managing
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: it at Utah camp right now, but it is one
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: of the difficult things about the integration of live tackling
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: and of live hitting because the way that Colton Swan
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: was dialing up pressure and the way that these guys
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: give them some credit, the way these guys were timing
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: their rushes and timing their blitzes. they were doing a
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: really good job of being like full speed at the
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage or close to full speed right at
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage as the ball is snapped.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: So they're just like hurtling into the backfield. And a
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: couple of times we saw it with, uh, Elijah Ellis.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: We saw it with Cyrus Polo in the game last night.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: You saw it on the break contain where Lance holds claw.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: He just pinched down really, really hard. And he just
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: got the tackle again. This is an experienced offensive line
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: for Idaho. The tackles like, okay, cool. You win this battle.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: We're crashing down to the center because he knew his
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: quarterback was rolling, right? He's like, you don't want to
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: have contained.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 7: Cool.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: And that led to a touchdown. So how do you
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: fix that?
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Well, the way you fix it is potentially a bad
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: day for the scout team or the tackling dummies at
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: the very least those quarterbacks, because this coaching staff is
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: going to address it.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: They're going to say, Hey, Well-timed blitz, beautiful, wonderful stuff.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: If you don't finish this play, it is a bust
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: on the back end because I have taken you out
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: of coverage. I have taken you out of being that
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: second layer or that third layer of defense. And now
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: there's a massive vacancy that you just occupied five seconds ago.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: they're running with the ball in that green grass, right?
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: So you have to come to balance. You have to
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: finish the play. You have to tackle. You have to
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: wrap up. This is something that will be managed and
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: will be taken care of by this coaching staff.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: I promise you that. And okay.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: Brechterfield right now has to worry about his guys getting
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: there first. If they start missing, then they're going to
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: be like, all right, we're finishing tackles.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Brandon Rose.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: Or they'll just call out whoever the Murph on the
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: team is this week. And they'll be like, dude, you're
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: just going to stand at the backfield and we're going
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: to do one-on-one pass rush.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: And when they get to you, they're going to hurt you.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: And you're just like, all right, fine. This sucks.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: It it's a good observation by Alec though, that all
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: of those blitzes and all of that manufactured pressure and
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: those stunts and those twists, those are great because they
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: give the offensive line something to question on film and
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: Arkansas is looking at it and just being like, Okay,
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: so this Kalfusi kid who's 6'6 and 300 pounds, he
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: can move like this, and if he's coming across my
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: face and the other guy's crashing down here, this could
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: be really problematic for me.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it's only.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: Problematic if he then finishes the play. That is the
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: whole thing with blitzes. A blitz that is unfinished is
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: a liability in coverage. It is an open spot in
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: the defense. It is a place where better teams with
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: better players, better wide receivers, better tight ends. They are
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: given the option on their routes to occupy vacant space, right?
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: They read the blitz just like the quarterback does. And
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: if they don't read it themselves, the quarterback sees the
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: pressure coming and he makes a little signal or he
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: shouts out to the guy and that changes his route.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: And then what do you have?
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: You have a drag route. Your linebackers are coming. We
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: saw this from Colton Swan last night, right?
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: Back in the box. Here comes Trey Reynolds. Here comes
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: John Hall.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, tight end, here's what you're going to do. You're
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: going to flash like you're helping the tackle, and then
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: you're just going to leak out on a little drag
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: route five yards behind the defensive line.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: And that's now, if you.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: Don't finish the play, that is now a big game
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: as the blitzer. Or what's the other alternative there? Your
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: pass rush, if it's not getting home, where do your
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: hands have to be? Carson Kalfousi, You're tall, like tree,
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 2: get your hands in the air. If you're not winning
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: that battle, if you're not getting to the quarterback, put
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: your hands in the air and bat a few passes down.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: That's honestly, that's the only problem with Jai Moa being
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: the size that he is. Cause at five 11, you're
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: not batting a lot of balls down. Even if your
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: pass rushes it almost there. And we've had guys in
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: Utah footballs pass that were really, really good. They were
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: like defensive backs at the line of scrimmage. Guys that
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: just had this weird knack for batting the ball out
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: of the air. We didn't see necessarily a ton of
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: that last night, but I am not hitting a panic
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: button on anything we saw from Utah football. The overwhelming
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: positives were new coaching staff, a lot of new players,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: new head coach going out and playing kind of how
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: we expected them to play against inferior competition. I also
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: believe that Arkansas is inferior competition. I don't think Arkansas
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: is inferior athletics. I think that those guys are just
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: as big, fast and strong. And in a lot of positions,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: they're probably bigger, faster and stronger than Utah. So technique
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: and discipline are going to have to win the day.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: We will find out what Utah has got in those
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: realms much more next week.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: Let's take another quick break here. The airing of grievances
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: is coming. And it's coming in hot. A reminder to
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: all of you out there that maybe you're this person
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: that when you see an accident or you hear about
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: an accident, you're like, you know what?
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to eat that.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to trust that my insurance company is going
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: to treat me right, is going to handle this the
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: right way. You don't have to trust that, okay? It's
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: probably not a good idea for you to trust that.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: I understand that there are a lot of us who
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: don't want to be litigious, as we like to say.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: Your first reaction to a bad thing happening to you
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: because of doctor malpractice or because of somebody not maintaining
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: your apartment building the right way, your first reaction is not, well,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: who can I sue over this? You don't deserve to
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: have that bad thing happen to you. You do deserve
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: to have an advocate representing your interest and trying to
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: make sure you get compensation if you deserve it. And
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: the beauty with the advocates is consultations are available 24-7, 365. Also,
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: you don't come out of pocket. So that second barrier
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: to entry, right? That, oh, I don't want to, I
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: don't have to pay for this right now.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: Well, guess what? You don't come out of pocket.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: They are motivated to get you the maximum amount in
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: a settlement because they take a percentage of your settlement
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: only after they have actually earned that for you. You're
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: not coming out of pocket paying upfront. You will become
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: partners with the advocates in making sure that you get
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: what you deserve. And that's why they're so motivated to
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 2: do a great job. And when you compare the advocates
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: to other personal injury attorneys around the country and around
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: the state, You can find the records of how much
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 2: the settlements are. You can find the records of the
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: compensation that they are able to earn for their clients.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: And the numbers tell you that the advocates are the
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: best place for you to go. 801-355-5550, utahadvocates.com. Again, available
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: all the time, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: Motorcycle accident, bicycling accident, car accident, slip and fall, something
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: falls on you because of poor maintenance, whatever it is,
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: just give them a call and let them know, hey,
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: this bad thing happened to me. I need somebody else
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: to handle it for me. I'm going to focus on
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: my injury. I'm going to focus on my recovery. I'm
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: going to focus on getting myself right.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: They will focus on getting you the compensation that you deserve.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: 801-355-5550 or utahadvocates.com.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 4: Let them know OC sent you. And then you mentioned
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 4: the free consultation, OC. Even if you have a friend
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 4: or family member who has an accident, not in the car.
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 4: maybe they're walking around, get hurt, and you're just like,
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 4: I wonder if that's a case. You can call the
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: advocates and find out real quick.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 9: 801-355-5550.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 4: The free consultation is there for those specific reasons where
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 4: you're like, I wonder if I can get more money
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 4: from this than I would if I didn't call the advocates.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: Give the advocates a call. The answer is yes, you
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: probably can. All right, get your grievances ready. Air them next.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 7: 877-353-0700.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: Unburden yourself on a Friday.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: Get it all off your chest and head into the
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: first full slate of college football this weekend.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: It's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN 700 and 92
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: on FM.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 4: We don't need no education.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 10: You're tuned to The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 10: Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 12: The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of problems with you people. Now,
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: you're going to hear about it. Teach to leave them
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: kids alone.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: Send in your grievances. Get them off your chest. Head
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: into the weekend grievance-free. And sit down and watch some football.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: Friday night, we've got games. Saturday, we've got games. Sunday
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: and Monday, we've got games. And that's just college, baby.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: Friday night, lights happening around the valley as well with
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: high school games.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: We might actually talk about that.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: There's another great list of the best high school mascots
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: from every state. And I like to bring those up
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: because while my beloved high school alma mater, Jordan is
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: not winning a lot of games right now. They do
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: have one of the best names in the business.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 3: 877-353-0700.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: Air your grievances now on the Sean O'Connell show. James,
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: do you have a grievance you need to get off
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: your chest? Oh, James is talking to a caller right now.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: I like that. Okay. I got one for you.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: It's tried and true. It's an old, it's an old
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: standby for me. I'll give you mine here in a second.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure we get to our callers
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: in a timely manner. Sam from Taylorsville.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: How are you, Sam?
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 6: I'm great. How are you?
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: I'm awesome, man. We've gotten like six calls today. I'm
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: really excited about it.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 6: Good stuff. I'm glad to be a part of it.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 6: First and foremost, this is the best segment anyone's ever
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 6: thought of in local radio. Let's over the grievances. Let's
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 6: get some issues out in the open. Let's talk about
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 6: it as opposed to bottling them up. My grievance today
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 6: is with people who it's your job to know things,
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 6: but you never do know things. For example, I own
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 6: a small business. I've been waiting on a product delivery
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 6: for eight weeks now. And I get an update that, okay,
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 6: this is delayed. Well, I've waited eight weeks. I kind
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 6: of need an answer. It's important to the client. And
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 6: the email that I get from the logistics sales manager,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 6: or excuse me, the logistics and supply chain manager says,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It's literally your job to know. Who
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 6: else is going to know if not you? So grievance
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 6: today with people who should know things but never seem
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 6: to and can never give you the right answer.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: That is a deep frustration that has been shared at
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: some point by all of us. So we will echo
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: the grievance with great enthusiasm. If it is your job
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: to know the thing, know the thing. That's incredibly frustrating.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: My dad.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 6: My dad always had a saying with us growing up,
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 6: and I need to echo that now. You can tell
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 6: me it's none of my business. You can tell me
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 6: to go to hell, but don't tell me you don't know,
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 6: especially when it's your job to know.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to steal that. Shout out to your dad
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: for having a great catchphrase like that one.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 6: He's got plenty of them, so cite your source. He's
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 6: a great dude. His name is Craig.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: All right, Craig. You're the man. Thanks for the phone call.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: We have Spencer from Salt Lake. Is that correct? Is
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: this Spencer Fano?
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 13: No, this is not Spencer Fano.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 8: I wish I was, though.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't think you'd be. You'd be from Cleveland right
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: now anyway, so that's all right. How are you, Spencer?
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 8: I'm great, man.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 13: Three-day weekend coming up. Grievance airing. First time calling in,
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 13: so all things are great.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: What's your grievance?
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 13: So my grievance is with, uh, I think Alex was
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 13: calling about the Cutco reps, uh, pestering him in the sauna,
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 13: but I've just got a similar grievance about MLMs. I
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 13: used to bartend when I lived in Bozeman, Montana, and
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 13: there was quite the contingency of, uh, Amway, uh, I
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 13: guess workers up there in Bozeman and they would come
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 13: in constantly. Uh, and it's, it's one thing to try your,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 13: try it out on like a bar customer or, you know,
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 13: people around you, but to prey on the young college
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 13: students working at the bar who have to talk to
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 13: you while we're taking your order and stuff. I just
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 13: think that's so lame to, uh, like put you, put
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 13: you through that. And then I feel like they'd always
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 13: tip that. And anyways, they were in there like every
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 13: Friday night trying to get people to join.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: And it's, I don't know.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 13: It was just always such a, such a burden for us.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: You know what? And guess what? If you're trying to
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: convey great wealth, you can't be a bad tipper. All right.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 2: Amway people, if you're trying to, if you're trying to
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: sell these young folks on, Hey, this is great.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: You're going to make a killing at this.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 2: You better drop a hundy down on a couple of
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: drinks because that conveys success. If you're like, I want
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: to tip you 5%, you're not selling your business anyway.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: So that's a double grievance, Spencer.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: The bad tipping is never forgivable, but especially when you're
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: trying to convince someone that, hey, if you do this,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: it'll bring you great financial success, and then you don't
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: convey that?
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just terrible.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: Great grievance. Thank you for calling in. On the text line, Derek,
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: on the text line, grievance.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: If I go to a store advertising a holiday-type sale
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: and I still have to drop more than $ 1, 000 to
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: get anything, it doesn't help me.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: I'm poor. Well, you don't have to buy the stuff, Derek.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe you do.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: If it's like tires that you have to buy, you
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 2: got to have tires on your car. I guess nowadays
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: we have to have a cell phone. So if you're
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 2: having a Labor Day sale, if you're a business owner
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: out there and you're having a Labor Day sale, do
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: our guy Derek a favor and have it be a
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: meaningful sale.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: All right. Grievance eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, zero 700. Okay.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: So the grievance I was going to.
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: Air, and I know this is the case when you're
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 2: on like the Ocho and you get the Z team
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: broadcasting partnership. I just want there to be a minimum requirement.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 2: If you are calling games West of the Mississippi river,
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: Cause now every school West of the Mississippi has a
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: pretty healthy contingent of.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: Polynesian football players.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: I need for every single broadcaster to demonstrate the ability
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: to get, it doesn't have to be a hundred percent.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. Because we, I've been around it my whole life.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I still get some wrong.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: I need you to have at least like an 80%
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: score on pronouncing Polynesian names correctly, or I need you
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: to not be put on a game that features the
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: university of Utah or BYU or Hawaii or Southern Utah
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: or Cal or any other Oregon or any other team
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: that for decades now has been filling out their rosters
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: with Samoans and Tongans and even the occasional Fijian. If
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: you can't pronounce the names, Don't be on the broadcast.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not even Polynesian and it drives me crazy.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, at least get some reasonable facsimile to what
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 4: the actual pronunciation is too. Like, I think people can,
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 4: I think it's forgivable to like, not quite pronounce one
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 4: of the vowels, right? But you gotta, you gotta get,
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 4: you gotta make it sound close enough to it too often.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: That's not the case.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: Every school is, gives a pronunciation guide for the names.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: Every single school has a pronunciation guide in the, the
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: game program. And now most of them, most schools, especially
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: if you're on a broadcast team or whatever, most schools
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: have an audio resource where you can go to their
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: website and you can click The little, like, ear link
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: next to a name, and it pronounces the name. And
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: it's usually the player pronouncing their own name. And sometimes,
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: by the way, the phonetic spelling in the pronunciation guide
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: is incorrect. That's happened at the University of Utah in
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: years past.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be a hundred percent, but you
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 2: gotta be whatever it is. Uh, Polynesians, please text in.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: Is it 75%? Is that like at least a respectable threshold?
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: Is it 80? I think 80 would be my minimum requirement.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: That's like a B minus grade. If you're a B
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: minus Polynesian pronunciation guy, you can call a Utah game.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 2: I want you to be an a and But if
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 2: you're at least a B minus, great. If you're like
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 2: the guys on the broadcast last night and you're a
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: D plus, you should not be calling these games. It
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: is a bare minimum requirement. I have to pronounce a
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: bunch of weird Eastern European and Russian names. And we
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 2: do the work to make sure we get them right.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 2: And what, even the guys, when you ask them, Hey,
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 2: like say your name for me, like, no, no, no,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: just pronounce it. It's you can't really say it right
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: in English. No, please let me get your name right,
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 2: at least. I'll make a bunch of other mistakes, but
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: I want to show the athlete the respect of getting
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: the name right. It should be ubiquitous across college football.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: Even the big-name guys screw it up all the time. Yeah,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a cardinal sin in the industry, right?
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: Getting the player's name wrong. But the other, again.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 9: Not getting it 100% the way that the player and
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 9: their family says it, if it's a complicated name like
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 9: some of these Polynesian names, the example that you bring up, R.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: It's okay. Just get it close, okay?
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 4: And what's troubling is that a lot of these broadcasters,
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 4: and I wasn't watching the game with the sound on
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 4: last night, so I can't speak to last night like
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 4: you can, O.C., but a lot of these broadcasters don't
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 4: even get it close.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: And it's like, man, what have you been doing?
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 4: Have you not been practicing the, the, the most basic
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 4: part of your job for this game, which is to
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 4: get names, right?
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: It just feels like it just like, and again, it
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't affect me personally, but I feel very personal about
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 2: it because I'm like, I would love to be calling
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 2: these games, right? I would love to have an opportunity
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: to call a game, even like a low profile game.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: Like Utah, Idaho was last night, right?
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 4: Beyond the ESPN plus or the, it was on ESPN.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 4: You last night, even those games.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: Like that. That's a, that's a dream, dream, dream job.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: If you have that, whatever your dream job is, and
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: then you don't do the legwork necessary to show respect
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: to the people involved. I feel like that is something
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: that is deserving of me airing a grievance. And I've
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: done it every single year of my life. Just like,
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: why don't you get these guys' names right?
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, you've done it every year because people keep
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: getting them wrong.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: Matiaki Hilu last night. Semai Taolonga.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Jeff Schwartz, Spencer Fanel.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: My guy, my guy, it took, it took Bingham Fano
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: took dad being on Twitter and saying, Hey guys, it's
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 2: Fano Fano.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: Anyway, that's my grievance. What do you have, James?
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I've just, maybe I've just had
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: a really good. couple of weeks. I'm not thinking of
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: much right now. Okay.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: Here's one that a couple of people have brought in,
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: not necessarily as a grievance, but some people put it
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: in their best and the worst part of the game
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: last night. The new, the new entrance song for the team,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: the music playing at rice cycle stadium.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: What was the journey song? It said it's a journey.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: What is separate ways?
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: Being in the studio.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, see, I, I miss out on some of these
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 4: things that people are like, oh, we all saw that.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: It sucked or awesome. Do we have that in the computer?
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: Can you pull that up? Is that every way I'll
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: pull it up. Let's see if we can just, okay.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: So for the folks that don't get to go to
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: these games or haven't gotten to go to these games.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: And you're just got close your eyes as James pulls
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: this up and it's a, it's a Thursday in September.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful, perfect weather night.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: The guys that you're starting to see some motion in
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: the tunnel. You're starting to see the fans kind of
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: have to rearrange themselves. The swoop on the motorcycle thing
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: is happening.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: Spirit team is out there creating the tunnel that the
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: players are going to run through.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: And this is the song that starts playing. Your reaction
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: to that is apparently for a lot of people who've
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: been texting today.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: Not great. I mean, Here's what I'll say for separate ways.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: The beginning is it's upbeat.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 4: It's got a nice base to it, right? It's not
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 4: exactly a journey love ballad here, but it is very
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 4: footloose compared to what you're looking for for a football
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 4: game in 2026.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: In 2006?
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 6: 1996?
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: This might have been the jam, but 2026? I don't know.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: This was released in 1983. Yeah, it was released then.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: A great year, by the way. Great year. Good Things
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: came out in 1983. Songs have longevity.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 4: That's why I say probably 10 to 20 years after
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 4: release date, it was probably still an anthem jam, right?
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 4: Not sure it is anymore in 2026. Four-year walkout song. Also,
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 4: I think I might agree with that. So I love
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 4: the jam itself. This is like the sound.
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: It's a great song.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of kind of like a little Street
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: Fighter video game.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: Start to it like the synthesis.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: You know, like the keyboard. Okay.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 2: I like that. The lyrics are not real. It's like
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: a broken hearted love song.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 3: And.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's the falsetto voice that we, I mean, I'm
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 4: a journey fan.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not, I'm not saying that, uh, that journey sounds
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 4: bad in any of their songs, but for a football game,
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 4: maybe it's also the falsetto voice. That's like, eh, once
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 4: the lyrics start, you're like, yeah, this isn't really pumping
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 4: me up. Uh, as much as like, if you're going
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 4: to go classic from similar era, like, I know that
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 4: Virginia tech is, Oh, has like co-opted this, but like
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 4: enter Sandman is the, is that kind of like, it's
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 4: that kind of a song that you want to do
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 4: if you're going to do a classic rock song.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: So who are the, who are the rock bands from Utah?
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: Who are the, cause you can't use like the Osmonds
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: for obvious reasons.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 4: And imagine dragon song. I'm about to hit somebody turn
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 4: on Donny Osmond.
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Imagine Dragons. I like Imagine Dragons. They're from Provo, though.
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: Have they not done Rice Eccles Stadium tours, though?
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: If you're airing a grievance, you don't want this to
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: be the song. This is brand new, okay? This is
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: the start of an era.
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but what song?
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: If it goes away, no one's going to miss it, probably.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: So what song do you want the run out to be?
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: This is much like your... Major League Baseball walk-up song
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: that you only get five seconds of.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: The walkout song for your fight. If you're in the
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: UFC or the PFL, right? That's what you want for
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 2: this Utah football team.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: 877-353-0700.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: If you don't want it to be journey, if you
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 2: don't like that choice being made, you got to have, it's,
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like when you say you got to
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 2: fire this coach.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you only have to fire him if you know
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: who's better.
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: Cade's got a, on the text line, it's got a
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: good suggestion. tough to beat kickstart my heart. That's true.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: That's I think better than separate ways for a football game.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm really curious to know how many players have any
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: connection to these songs we're talking about that are like,
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: that's the other thing.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 1: Like, shouldn't it be a song? Yes.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 4: You want it to connect to the 50,000 people in
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 4: the seats. But shouldn't it also, isn't it the most
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 4: important thing that the players connect to it, right? You
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 4: got to have something that 18 to early 20-year-olds connect
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 4: to and vast majority of the 50,000 plus people in
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 4: the stands connect to, which is not an easy thing
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 4: to do necessarily, but It's doable.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 9: Journey.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: Isn't that, I think it's doable.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 2: Like I think any top 40 song from the last
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: like 15 years, players are going to know and hopefully
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 2: connect to, and the same thing with people in the
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: stands and look, I'm fine with journey being the choice.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with it because it can be its own thing.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: If you don't like it as a fan, this is
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 2: about the fan experience. Like the player and the fan
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: experience here is kind of what matters in that moment.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: So write your state Senator or whatever. Bring it. No,
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: bring it here on the airing of grievances. Tell me
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: what song you want.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: Why don't you send an email? Welcome. Welcome to the jungle.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: I love both of those songs because I'm 43 years old.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Devin damn peer feels connected to
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: those songs.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like we got to have the leadership council
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 4: come up with songs that they like, and then fans
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 4: chime in in some way. And like, Oh, yeah. these
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 4: songs on that list absolutely here.
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: Comes the boom coming in on the text line from
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 1: Casey for whom the bell tolls from Cal look you
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: are speaking my language here I love all of these
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: suggestions I the show that the song that brings us
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: into the show every single day, which by the way,
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 1: did you, we've talked about this before, but it was
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: a long time ago.
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: This was done by accident. I did not tell James
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: what song to bring the show in with. It was
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: the song that we ran out onto the field to
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: in my beloved days of Jordan high beat digger football.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: Thunderstruck by ACDC is the song that stirs my soul.
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: Get ready. Let's go. That was, and is the intro
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: song to the show. You did that on accident, James.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 4: It was that promo that we ran that thunderstruck underneath it.
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 4: And I was like, might as well have that be the,
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 4: let's just have that to start out the song. And
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 4: it stuck. You were like, that's the perfect song. And
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 4: some of those are timeless, right?
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: I think. And then, like I said, understand, man, that's
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: what I'm asking. Yeah.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe because like the, we need to talk to ask
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: Devin next week on addition with death, the song for
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 2: me has to be something that the muss and the
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: players also love. They don't have to be the only
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 2: ones who love it. Like I don't want Kendrick Lamar
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 2: or something that the old folks are going to be.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: Like, what is this crap?
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 4: But they need to be, they need to collaborate. And
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 4: then there needs to be another forum for you know,
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 4: everyone else who all the other season ticket holders to
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 4: be like, yeah, we're, we're down with these songs. These
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 4: songs definitely pumped me up before, before a football game.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 2: Spencer says, is Thunderstruck slightly ruined for you since you
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: hear it every day?
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: No, it's not. We only hear like 10 seconds of
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: it every day.
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: So it's not a great stuff. Thanks for the airing.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: Agreements as people, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, zero 700.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: You can keep bringing them in. I'm happy to keep
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: airing your grievances. The drive with Spence Chekits is up
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 2: at Wasatch Front Kia today for their Labor Day tent sale.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: 770 West Riverdale Road in Ogden.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 2: That means he's probably not going to talk to us
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: for some crosstalk, which we have a few minutes to
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: close out the show and talk about some of the
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: other things that happened last night in college football, including
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: Colorado grabbing a big win for the Big 12.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: It's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 10: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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  Speaker 1: All right. Great show today.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, everyone who participated, everyone who came in. I want
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  Speaker 2: to give credit where it's due. Colorado beat Georgia tech
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  Speaker 2: last night. And we have lamented the idea that there's
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of opportunities for the big 12 to
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  Speaker 2: kind of make its case and to say, Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we are at least as good as the ACC. Georgia
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  Speaker 2: tech is a physical team and Colorado. We've made a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cracks about how they're so tiny and maybe
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  Speaker 2: aren't going to be capable of being physical.
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  Speaker 1: They hung around, hung around, hung around.
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  Speaker 2: And they got one really great pass down the stretch
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  Speaker 2: from their quarterback at a time. They needed it, finished
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  Speaker 2: a drive, scored a touchdown and then blocked a field goal,
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee transfer, defensive safety blocks, a field goal as time
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  Speaker 2: expires and Colorado wins that football game.
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  Speaker 4: Speaker 2, crazy ending. I was thinking about Jeff Schwartz
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  Speaker 4: for most of the game though. Remember he said he
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  Speaker 4: was taking Colorado to cover, but lose because They always,
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  Speaker 4: in games that you think, oh, they should win this game,
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  Speaker 4: they always make a few crucial mistakes and squander it.
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  Speaker 4: Our guy Shahan tweeted something similar to that. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: Colorado's out playing Georgia Tech, but they're losing because they
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  Speaker 4: keep being Colorado.
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  Speaker 7: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Touchdown under a minute left.
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  Speaker 4: Right after that touchdown, while everyone's still celebrating, they give
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  Speaker 4: up a couple of huge plays. Georgia Tech gets in
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  Speaker 4: field goal range really fast, and I'm like, well, there
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  Speaker 4: you go. And then they block the kick to win
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  Speaker 4: the game. What a great ending to, certainly from an
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  Speaker 4: offensive perspective, kind of an unwatchable game.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is then Dion immediately sat down in the
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  Speaker 2: post game press conference and did his thing where he's
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  Speaker 2: taken victory laps.
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  Speaker 1: You believe now?
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  Speaker 2: I thought you guys said we were too small. It's
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  Speaker 2: like Dion, you won a game, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Don't score. Do that. You scored 14 points by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Don't flex and stunt. Now wait until your team establishes itself.
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  Speaker 2: If they're capable of doing so, it's like, how have
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  Speaker 2: you not learned this crazy?
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  Speaker 1: Like don't do this.
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  Speaker 4: It'd be bad for us as at the home of
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  Speaker 4: the Utes, but like call us when you beat, when
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  Speaker 4: you upset Utah or BYU, that one's fine. You know,
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  Speaker 4: like don't, don't call us in week one after you
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  Speaker 4: win a very sloppy game against.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: A team that was really good last year in Georgia tech,
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  Speaker 4: but this isn't last year. We don't know if Georgia
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  Speaker 4: tech's going to be as good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That, that that's questionable by him, but it was, it
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  Speaker 4: was awesome to see, uh, Colorado do something that kind
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  Speaker 4: of helps the Big 12 in week one.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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