Latest / Parent's Talk with Francine Juhlin / EPISODE 11: Rebuilding Trust & Family After Rehab - The Real Challenge
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hello.
- 0:02Speaker 2: This is Francine Julien, the founder of Parents Talk and
- 0:08Speaker 2: the Confidence Club for Kids. We're here giving parents tits
- 0:13Speaker 2: and tricks for raising confident kids today so we don't
- 0:17Speaker 2: have to fix broken adults tomorrow. And today I have
- 0:23Speaker 2: with me a very special guest, because today he's going
- 0:28Speaker 2: to talk about the men in your life and the
- 0:31Speaker 2: young boys in your life and how we could protect
- 0:36Speaker 2: them from addiction and how we can help them overcome
- 0:40Speaker 2: addiction if that's the path they're on right now. Michael
- 0:45Speaker 2: Olsen is the author of the book The Life Forge. Michael,
- 0:51Speaker 2: will you introduce yourself to the listeners please?
- 0:54Speaker 3: Oh sure, Thank you very much. I appreciate the opportunity.
- 0:58Speaker 3: My name is Michael Olson. I am the owner of
- 1:02Speaker 3: a company called The Life Forge. As was mentioned, I
- 1:06Speaker 3: wrote a book called Life Forge, and that book is
- 1:12Speaker 3: really about my personal journey of dealing with addiction, suffering
- 1:19Speaker 3: horrible consequences from it, but more importantly, the process to
- 1:25Speaker 3: overcome those addictions and create a better life afterwards.
- 1:31Speaker 2: When you tell us some of your story that helped
- 1:35Speaker 2: you or made you want to develop this process.
- 1:41Speaker 3: The main part of the story is that my addictions
- 1:46Speaker 3: not only destroyed my family but landed me in prison.
- 1:51Speaker 3: And when I'm sitting in prison and wondering what the
- 1:53Speaker 3: heck I'm going to do, I came up with the
- 1:57Speaker 3: idea that I need to help other young men and
- 2:01Speaker 3: conquer those addictions and save their families so they don't
- 2:05Speaker 3: suffer the same fate that I had. But one of
- 2:10Speaker 3: the things I came up with is when you're dealing
- 2:12Speaker 3: with addictions, you have really ground your life into the dirt.
- 2:18Speaker 3: And what I came up with as a process to
- 2:20Speaker 3: create a new person, a new self in order to
- 2:25Speaker 3: be able to grow and recover from those addictions.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Listeners, if you've been watching parents Talk for a while,
- 2:36Speaker 2: you probably know that I suffer from addictions food, wine, drinking,
- 2:45Speaker 2: and many other bad habits. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
- 2:52Speaker 2: If we don't have the tools to comfort ourselves, our
- 2:57Speaker 2: brains search for ways to be comfort which leads us
- 3:01Speaker 2: on the path to bad habits. So, Michael, I'd like
- 3:07Speaker 2: to ask you, can you tell us maybe a little
- 3:10Speaker 2: bit about your process and is there a discovery part
- 3:16Speaker 2: of the process where you discover the root cause of
- 3:19Speaker 2: what's causing your addiction.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Yes, And this goes to parents helping to prevent addictions
- 3:27Speaker 3: from happening, because the main point is addiction isn't about
- 3:32Speaker 3: a substance or a behavior, it's a symptom, and it's
- 3:39Speaker 3: a symptom because there is something inside, scars or troubles
- 3:45Speaker 3: or trauma or whatever inside that has not been dealt with,
- 3:49Speaker 3: and addictions are used to cope with those unresolved effects
- 3:55Speaker 3: that are happening in our lives. So anything that you
- 3:58Speaker 3: can do with your children before it becomes a problem
- 4:04Speaker 3: that they have to cope with, make sure you get
- 4:07Speaker 3: to that right away so that they don't have those
- 4:10Speaker 3: scars that they have to try and medicate through some
- 4:15Speaker 3: kind of substance or behavior that makes them think about
- 4:21Speaker 3: something other than the pain that they have inside.
- 4:26Speaker 2: And the tool that I found at worked for me
- 4:29Speaker 2: the best was meditation. It helped me really clear my
- 4:33Speaker 2: mind and dig down to what my root cause, what
- 4:38Speaker 2: caused me to want to comfort myself. And that's why
- 4:41Speaker 2: my first children's book is an introduction and meditation for children,
- 4:47Speaker 2: because I think and actually my readers have told me
- 4:54Speaker 2: that when the children could calm their mind, that they
- 5:00Speaker 2: are not susceptible to peer pressure as much because that
- 5:05Speaker 2: peer pressure is a result of them wanting to be
- 5:10Speaker 2: like everybody else. When they calm their minds and go
- 5:14Speaker 2: deep inside with that self reflection that we talk about
- 5:18Speaker 2: in the Magic Library book, then they feel self confident
- 5:23Speaker 2: in their own skin and they feel self assured where
- 5:29Speaker 2: they don't feel that need to go with the crowd
- 5:32Speaker 2: and become the next best thing instead of who they
- 5:37Speaker 2: really are.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Yes, and identity is everything.
- 5:43Speaker 3: They have to create a strong self identity so that
- 5:47Speaker 3: they don't try to follow somebody else's identity and get
- 5:52Speaker 3: into doing things that really do not fulfill them. And
- 5:59Speaker 3: one of the things that I really do with my
- 6:00Speaker 3: process is go deep into a person, discover what their
- 6:06Speaker 3: identity is and help them grow with that become the
- 6:12Speaker 3: ideal person that they want to be because you can
- 6:16Speaker 3: create that.
- 6:19Speaker 2: I know you can because I did my identity. I
- 6:22Speaker 2: was in an identity crisis when I retired from my
- 6:26Speaker 2: job as an aircraft electrician for the military. That's all
- 6:30Speaker 2: I knew my whole adult life. And then I had
- 6:34Speaker 2: to recreate myself. And then I thought back, I wasn't
- 6:39Speaker 2: always an aircraft electrician. I created that identity when I
- 6:44Speaker 2: joined the Navy. Yeah, so I think what we're trying
- 6:49Speaker 2: to say here is that parents, you could help your
- 6:53Speaker 2: kids create an identity that makes them resilient so when
- 6:58Speaker 2: life happens and changes come across their being, that they
- 7:04Speaker 2: have the tools they need to accept those changes and
- 7:07Speaker 2: move forward creating their new self.
- 7:11Speaker 3: Yes, but even with your adult children, you can talk
- 7:17Speaker 3: to them and try to bring out that identity that
- 7:23Speaker 3: maybe they've forgotten, because one of the problems with addiction
- 7:28Speaker 3: is it slowly, over time narrows the focus of what
- 7:33Speaker 3: they can cope with and how they cope with it
- 7:38Speaker 3: becomes really, really narrow, and they forget everything else because
- 7:41Speaker 3: all they can see is that one thing that can
- 7:43Speaker 3: help them. So we need to get them to be
- 7:47Speaker 3: able to open up that that well of capability that's
- 7:52Speaker 3: within themselves.
- 7:55Speaker 2: I remember when I I was using wine to come myself,
- 8:01Speaker 2: and I'd come home and I'd drink a glass of
- 8:03Speaker 2: wine in another and then I got to the point
- 8:06Speaker 2: where my liver was failing. But I can't quit. I
- 8:13Speaker 2: like it so much. What will I do? That's all
- 8:16Speaker 2: I have to look forward to. I had to change
- 8:20Speaker 2: that mindset and find new ways to comfort myself. And
- 8:28Speaker 2: the best option for parents is to teach their children
- 8:34Speaker 2: how to comfort themselves without food, without chemicals, and without medication. So, Michael,
- 8:47Speaker 2: I heard you say that you have a free report
- 8:51Speaker 2: that people need to get a hold of so they
- 8:55Speaker 2: can help these men in their lives. You want to
- 8:57Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit, Please.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Sure On my website right below the intro page, you
- 9:04Speaker 3: can find a place where you can get a free report.
- 9:08Speaker 3: That is where I talk to young men about what
- 9:12Speaker 3: they need to do once they've started the process of recovery,
- 9:17Speaker 3: because there are pitfalls that they can take that will
- 9:21Speaker 3: land them right back into the process of destroying themselves
- 9:26Speaker 3: like they were doing before. They need to do certain
- 9:29Speaker 3: things in order to be able to negotiate the recovery process.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And I identify a.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Number of those things for them so that they can
- 9:38Speaker 3: see where they should start and what to avoid. And
- 9:45Speaker 3: I offer that free report so that what they can
- 9:49Speaker 3: do is even if you're not a young man needing
- 9:54Speaker 3: to go online and get it, but if you're a
- 9:56Speaker 3: parent of somebody, if you're the wife of somebody, if
- 10:00Speaker 3: you're a friend of somebody who needs to have that,
- 10:04Speaker 3: this is a little report that you can give to
- 10:06Speaker 3: them to give them the idea hete there's something that
- 10:10Speaker 3: I can do, because when I was going through my struggles,
- 10:16Speaker 3: I kept saying, I want to stop destroying my life,
- 10:19Speaker 3: but I just don't know how. I want to give
- 10:22Speaker 3: them hope that there's information to show them how they
- 10:27Speaker 3: can do it well.
- 10:29Speaker 2: And the weird things. When I was going through it,
- 10:34Speaker 2: I was blaming everybody else that my life the only
- 10:38Speaker 2: way to say, it sucked, and it was nobody else's fault,
- 10:43Speaker 2: it was mine. So when you hand that report, don't
- 10:47Speaker 2: feel bad if you get a little pushback at first.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced that.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Yes, there's often pushback, especially with something that we have
- 10:56Speaker 3: so much difficulty talking about, and especially young men. We
- 11:02Speaker 3: want to hold it inside ourselves. We don't want to
- 11:07Speaker 3: share that we have this weakness.
- 11:11Speaker 1: We want to.
- 11:12Speaker 3: Try and solve it ourselves rather than reach out and
- 11:15Speaker 3: ask for help. So this is something that we really
- 11:18Speaker 3: need to get to young men to say, don't be
- 11:21Speaker 3: ashamed of it, just ask.
- 11:24Speaker 1: For some help.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Shame. I heard that word, and I think that's a
- 11:32Speaker 2: society response. Rather than reaching out and offering help, we
- 11:41Speaker 2: make these people feel ashamed.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Not only do we make them feel ashamed, but they
- 11:48Speaker 3: also take it on themselves. The reason they don't want
- 11:51Speaker 3: to put that out there is because they know they
- 11:54Speaker 3: will feel shame if they talk about it. But that's
- 11:58Speaker 3: not what we should be feeling. We should be feeling, Hey,
- 12:02Speaker 3: this is a problem. I need to get some help
- 12:05Speaker 3: for people.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Get in touch with you if they want some more information.
- 12:10Speaker 3: The best way is through my website.
- 12:13Speaker 1: You can go to www.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Dot the life Forge all one word dot com. In
- 12:20Speaker 3: that you'll be able to see that free report. You'd
- 12:24Speaker 3: be able to access my book if you want to
- 12:27Speaker 3: get a copy of it, and there's other programs that
- 12:31Speaker 3: you can see as to how I would be able
- 12:33Speaker 3: to help people through this process. It has all my
- 12:36Speaker 3: contact information there too, so it's the best place to
- 12:40Speaker 3: get a hold of me.
- 12:41Speaker 2: And we'll be putting a link to that in the
- 12:43Speaker 2: description on YouTube and in the comments on all our
- 12:47Speaker 2: other social media.
- 12:50Speaker 1: I do have to do that very much.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Do you have any last words for the audience?
- 12:57Speaker 3: The best thing to do is to make sure you
- 13:01Speaker 3: talk to people and don't talk about just normal things
- 13:08Speaker 3: from the day, day to day things. Actually talk to
- 13:12Speaker 3: people to find out what's going on with them, and
- 13:16Speaker 3: then be willing to listen because listening is.
- 13:20Speaker 1: The most important part.
- 13:22Speaker 3: When people feel like they're listened to, they'll be more
- 13:25Speaker 3: willing to talk.
- 13:27Speaker 1: And this is stuff that we need to talk about.
- 13:32Speaker 2: So if you want to open that conversation with somebody
- 13:36Speaker 2: in your life, then get Michael's free report and start
- 13:41Speaker 2: that conversation, and then go to his website and take
- 13:48Speaker 2: the next steps. Michael, thank you so much for being
- 13:52Speaker 2: here with us today, and we'd love for you to
- 14:01Speaker 2: come back some other time and let us know how
- 14:04Speaker 2: many people you have helped.
- 14:07Speaker 3: I appreciate the offer and I will definitely be back.
- 14:10Speaker 3: I want to hear more about your stories too.
- 14:14Speaker 2: Maybe we should have a little counseling session or tell
- 14:18Speaker 2: all the bad t tell the audience all the weird
- 14:23Speaker 2: and strange things we did when we were under the
- 14:25Speaker 2: powers of the influence, and tell them, see, this is
- 14:29Speaker 2: what happens, and you can survive it and you can't
- 14:34Speaker 2: come out on the other end. So this is Francine Julie,
- 14:43Speaker 2: the founder of Parents Talk and the Confidence Club for Kids.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Until next time, Bye by