Latest / The Dave Allen Show / 03/04/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Larry Pack, Dr. Casey Sacks and her Irish colleagues, Don Smith
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- 1:37Speaker 3: the Capital, it is Marshall University Day, Goherd, but it
- 1:42Speaker 3: is also Cannabis Day at the Capitol. A good friend
- 1:46Speaker 3: of mine says there's going to be a lot of
- 1:47Speaker 3: green either way. So but Don Smith is a big
- 1:50Speaker 3: proponent of cannabis and he's going to join us to
- 1:53Speaker 3: talk about that a little bit later on the show. Plus,
- 1:55Speaker 3: you may remember last Friday when I had doctor Casey
- 1:59Speaker 3: Sachs of Bridge Valley the show, when she talked about
- 2:01Speaker 3: getting a visit of sorts from a similar institution of
- 2:05Speaker 3: higher learning. Similar to Bridge Valley in Ireland. It's kind
- 2:07Speaker 3: of an exchange program. And I said in passing, you
- 2:11Speaker 3: know doctor Sachs, we should try to get those folks
- 2:13Speaker 3: on the on the air with us. And yesterday, lo
- 2:17Speaker 3: and behold, I get a message from doctor Sacks and says, hey,
- 2:21Speaker 3: we're coming by. So I'm gonna have with me a
- 2:24Speaker 3: little bit later on some of these folks that are
- 2:26Speaker 3: from Ireland that are in the States in kind of
- 2:29Speaker 3: an exchange program with Bridge Valley Community and Technical College
- 2:33Speaker 3: to talk about what they do, what they're what their
- 2:36Speaker 3: impressions of West Virginia so far are. So we'll get
- 2:39Speaker 3: to that. Plus, your calls and text are always welcome
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- 2:49Speaker 3: zero eight, want to welcome to the show. First, to
- 2:50Speaker 3: start us off, it's a treasurer Larry Pack. Good morning, sir.
- 2:53Speaker 3: How are you?
- 2:54Speaker 6: Oh great, good morning? How are you today?
- 2:55Speaker 3: I am doing fine. You get to hang out with
- 2:57Speaker 3: the Irish folks upstairs.
- 2:58Speaker 7: I saw the Irish people. Yes, hopefully we've got to
- 3:01Speaker 7: see him again. But yes, fantastic.
- 3:02Speaker 3: They're gonna be around the valley. I understand the I
- 3:05Speaker 3: got their itinerary. Man, They're gonna be worn out by
- 3:07Speaker 3: the end of the day.
- 3:08Speaker 7: Yeah, I think. So we've got to say Patrick's Day.
- 3:10Speaker 7: We got a lot going on. I'm an old baseball player.
- 3:13Speaker 7: So March first is baseball season, so spring spring us here.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Who's your a big league team?
- 3:18Speaker 7: Big league team is always the Pirates, So it's life,
- 3:22Speaker 7: you know. I grew up that way. And you talking
- 3:24Speaker 7: to a Reds fan understaying, I understanding, how are the
- 3:28Speaker 7: Pirates gonna do this year? Do you think, uh, we're
- 3:31Speaker 7: gonna We're gonna show up?
- 3:32Speaker 3: Okay, well, I mean with the Reds Ellie Day La
- 3:35Speaker 3: Cruz may win the m v P, but I don't know.
- 3:37Speaker 3: And we got a great manager now, but I don't
- 3:39Speaker 3: know how far that's going to get it. So enough
- 3:42Speaker 3: baseball talk, all right, and we'll talk about the Hope
- 3:44Speaker 3: Scholarships in West Virginia. Uh application period is now under way,
- 3:48Speaker 3: I believe, And for those who may not know, explain
- 3:51Speaker 3: what the Hope Scholarship program is.
- 3:53Speaker 7: So the Hope Scholarship Program is an educational savings program.
- 3:57Speaker 7: Educational savings program where UH parents can choose an alternative
- 4:02Speaker 7: form of education for their children other than public school.
- 4:05Speaker 7: And if they choose an alternative form of education for
- 4:08Speaker 7: other than public school, the state will give them some
- 4:10Speaker 7: of their tax money back. It's about five thousand dollars
- 4:13Speaker 7: a year to help with the cost of this alternative
- 4:16Speaker 7: school situation. So parents like choice, they want they you know,
- 4:20Speaker 7: they don't want one size fits all. So it's really
- 4:22Speaker 7: working really well. You know, this is a nationwide thing
- 4:26Speaker 7: where people want just different or different choices, different alternatives
- 4:31Speaker 7: for their children. We started out about three years ago
- 4:34Speaker 7: with this program about two thousand students. It's five thousand
- 4:38Speaker 7: suits the year before. We're running about eleven thousand students currently,
- 4:42Speaker 7: and we're expecting with a school year beginning in August,
- 4:45Speaker 7: be somewhere around twenty thousand students that are taking advantage
- 4:47Speaker 7: of this program.
- 4:48Speaker 3: And as you said, and again we're talking to a
- 4:51Speaker 3: treasury a lady pack, this is a this is a
- 4:53Speaker 3: nationwide program that's really starting to take off, but particularly
- 4:56Speaker 3: here in the Mountain State, more and more parents are
- 4:58Speaker 3: for one reason or another and put you in the
- 5:00Speaker 3: middle of all that. But for one reason or another,
- 5:02Speaker 3: they're they're they're choosing choice, for lack of a better term.
- 5:04Speaker 6: They're choosing choice.
- 5:05Speaker 7: They you know, I have six to six kids, and
- 5:08Speaker 7: they all had different needs when they went to school
- 5:10Speaker 7: and had different issues and so forth. And you find
- 5:13Speaker 7: out when you have six kids at one size does
- 5:15Speaker 7: not fit off. Some fit better in this education environment
- 5:18Speaker 7: versus that educational environment. So it's just really given parents
- 5:21Speaker 7: the opportunity to make these choices for their children, for
- 5:24Speaker 7: their students. So and there's a lot of different choices,
- 5:28Speaker 7: a lot of different alternatives. So it's not just private schools.
- 5:30Speaker 7: There's micro schools, there's homeschools, there's just lots of different
- 5:34Speaker 7: there's online schools, so a lot of different opportunities out there.
- 5:37Speaker 3: So it's not just and I think it's a great
- 5:39Speaker 3: point that you brought up. This is not just what
- 5:41Speaker 3: you think of when you think of, Okay, well it's
- 5:43Speaker 3: private school or it's a parochial school, or whatever it
- 5:45Speaker 3: could be for whatever other alternative school system that they
- 5:50Speaker 3: that they want to use, be it online, be it charter,
- 5:52Speaker 3: be it whatever.
- 5:53Speaker 7: A lot of different models and a lot of different
- 5:55Speaker 7: opportunities and ways to educate your children. And from a
- 5:58Speaker 7: parent standpoint. You know, other than the faith journey, there's
- 6:01Speaker 7: really nothing more important and important than they're at their education.
- 6:05Speaker 7: And those are the things that parents worry about, I
- 6:07Speaker 7: think prayer about more than anything else. So so these
- 6:10Speaker 7: are not decisions parents make lightly. So when they make
- 6:14Speaker 7: these decisions, they've really thoughtfully looked at what's best for
- 6:17Speaker 7: their child.
- 6:18Speaker 3: And look, I have known parents, as you alluded to,
- 6:21Speaker 3: that may have two, three, four kids, and they all
- 6:25Speaker 3: they all take in education in a different way. And
- 6:28Speaker 3: for some you know, I've got one good friend of
- 6:30Speaker 3: mine who has has a few young'uns as we say
- 6:32Speaker 3: in southern West Virginia, and they and look, one of
- 6:34Speaker 3: them thrived in a public school I absolutely did fantastic.
- 6:37Speaker 3: The other one not so much. So she chose an
- 6:39Speaker 3: alternative for those students. Yes, it's it's part of our
- 6:44Speaker 3: cultures where we're at today. We like choice in most
- 6:47Speaker 3: aspects of life. And this is not not any different.
- 6:50Speaker 3: Talking to State Treasurer Larry Packed now and the scholarships,
- 6:54Speaker 3: and again we're gonna and I understand you're gonna be
- 6:56Speaker 3: out visiting a school today when you leave here, But
- 6:59Speaker 3: the boships are open to any any student, right.
- 7:03Speaker 7: So for this for this FISK year, this school year,
- 7:05Speaker 7: it's opening up. It's opened up to new new students
- 7:08Speaker 7: coming into system, okay, whether where they kindergarten, the first
- 7:10Speaker 7: grade coming into the system. When we get to school
- 7:13Speaker 7: year starting August of twenty six, then it's opened up
- 7:16Speaker 7: to all school children, okay, no matter what what grades
- 7:19Speaker 7: you're in, and you are going.
- 7:20Speaker 3: To be out touring the school, the Vandalia Community School.
- 7:23Speaker 7: I think, yes, it's my first opportunity to visit a
- 7:25Speaker 7: micro school and so really excited about that, to see
- 7:28Speaker 7: how it works, to to to talk to the powers
- 7:31Speaker 7: that be there as to how it works, why they're
- 7:33Speaker 7: doing what that model looks like this Again, this is
- 7:36Speaker 7: one model that I just haven't had experience with. So
- 7:39Speaker 7: we're excited to visit with them and see what we
- 7:41Speaker 7: can do to support their efforts.
- 7:43Speaker 3: And for those who may not know, because sometimes you
- 7:45Speaker 3: get the definitions kind of get lost in what is
- 7:48Speaker 3: a micro school?
- 7:49Speaker 7: Micro school is is is probably a simplified way of
- 7:52Speaker 7: looking at it. To me, would be a number of
- 7:55Speaker 7: homeschool children that would come to the students that would
- 7:58Speaker 7: come together into a micro school that wouldn't be licensed
- 8:02Speaker 7: as a private school, so there'll have folks that will
- 8:05Speaker 7: guide their progress and so forth, but won't necessarily be
- 8:08Speaker 7: a teacher. So just thinking of it is a number
- 8:11Speaker 7: of again homeschool students coming together in one setting so small,
- 8:15Speaker 7: I think ten or fifteen students. But from that they're
- 8:19Speaker 7: able to work together with these children and be able
- 8:22Speaker 7: to get them to move move further faster. Sometimes it's
- 8:24Speaker 7: just a parent that decides to run them, if you will,
- 8:27Speaker 7: the micro school, but we're seeing those all around the state.
- 8:30Speaker 7: Are definitely all around the country, So I look forward
- 8:32Speaker 7: to visiting them and understand that model a little bit more.
- 8:36Speaker 3: And where is this the Vandaelia Community School.
- 8:38Speaker 6: It's in Charleston. I'm not sure the address.
- 8:41Speaker 3: You'll find it here soon I will find it. Why
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- 8:44Speaker 6: I got a guy.
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- 9:13Speaker 3: the inflatables or whatever over at the ballpark on Saturday,
- 9:16Speaker 3: it is free. I'm going to ask you about this
- 9:18Speaker 3: because it broke I guess late yesterday we have a
- 9:20Speaker 3: story posted about a wv metronews dot com that some
- 9:24Speaker 3: more revenue numbers came out. Let's talk about your former
- 9:27Speaker 3: job for a moment. But at state treasurer obviously you
- 9:30Speaker 3: have to watch those, but you were also a revenue
- 9:32Speaker 3: secretary as well. You're taking on the numbers that came
- 9:35Speaker 3: out yesterday.
- 9:35Speaker 7: The federal the February numbers for the general fund for
- 9:39Speaker 7: say West Junior, really really strong. We're up about almost
- 9:41Speaker 7: thirty four million dollars over budget, so it was a
- 9:43Speaker 7: really strong month. It was driven by severance taxes, driven
- 9:47Speaker 7: by personal income taxes. So you know, we're marching long
- 9:51Speaker 7: as we thought we would be, which would be one budget.
- 9:54Speaker 7: We'll have probably two or three hundred million dollars budget
- 9:57Speaker 7: surplus time we get finished, but our colomies wrong. People
- 10:00Speaker 7: are working, and when people are working, they're paying lots
- 10:02Speaker 7: of taxes.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Did we and I know the last time you were
- 10:05Speaker 3: on the show, you tried to offer a little bit
- 10:06Speaker 3: of clarity and there seems to be maybe still some
- 10:09Speaker 3: disagreement over whether we have a surplus or we have
- 10:12Speaker 3: a deficit. I know that there's been it's kind of
- 10:14Speaker 3: gone back and forth. You were holding true to what
- 10:16Speaker 3: you said the last time you were here, though, right.
- 10:18Speaker 6: Yes, we feel really good about it.
- 10:19Speaker 7: So you know, currently we're probably about two hundred above
- 10:22Speaker 7: with you if you take the money that we're not spending,
- 10:24Speaker 7: so we're spending less than we budgeted. You take the
- 10:26Speaker 7: sixty million that we're up, you take the once you
- 10:29Speaker 7: take the lottery money, there's probably another hundred million dollars
- 10:31Speaker 7: in there. So you add it all together, we're somewhere
- 10:33Speaker 7: over two hundred and fifty currently surplus for the year.
- 10:36Speaker 7: So we're having a really strong year. Really fortunate about that.
- 10:39Speaker 7: There's always moving parts and things moving on. We have
- 10:42Speaker 7: a we have a big government. We collect a lot
- 10:44Speaker 7: of money from a lot of different sources and so
- 10:46Speaker 7: sometimes those things can deviate, but having a strong severce
- 10:49Speaker 7: tax number is a really good sign as far as
- 10:53Speaker 7: the money coming into the state. When it comes to
- 10:57Speaker 7: you know, the discussions going on in the capital as
- 11:00Speaker 7: much anything, they're just about priorities. Some people think that
- 11:04Speaker 7: we should be spending money on this, Some people think
- 11:06Speaker 7: we should spend money on that. I believe that that
- 11:09Speaker 7: stay washing is bringing plenty of money, lots of money,
- 11:12Speaker 7: more than enough to do the things that state government
- 11:15Speaker 7: has to do. The bigger disagreement, the bigger picture is
- 11:18Speaker 7: is what does the state westioning you have to do?
- 11:21Speaker 7: And I think the question we don't ask enough up
- 11:23Speaker 7: into capital is do we really need to do this?
- 11:27Speaker 7: And you know what I always found in the business
- 11:28Speaker 7: world for forty years is that sometimes we'd get away
- 11:31Speaker 7: from the core whatever is our business was supposed to do,
- 11:34Speaker 7: whatever service we were providing, And when you get away
- 11:36Speaker 7: from the core, you know, you start spend a lot
- 11:38Speaker 7: of money on other things. But the other thing we
- 11:40Speaker 7: noticed is when we got away from the core, we
- 11:42Speaker 7: didn't do so good at the core things that we
- 11:44Speaker 7: need to do. So so I think that's some of
- 11:46Speaker 7: the discussions going on. Hopefully we can get more people
- 11:49Speaker 7: start to start asking a question, is this necessary? Is
- 11:51Speaker 7: this something only we can do? Can a private sector
- 11:54Speaker 7: do better? Or just has our priorities changed when we
- 11:56Speaker 7: started this program forty years ago.
- 11:58Speaker 3: So Treasure Lady pack it's always a pleasure to have you.
- 12:01Speaker 3: Uh have you on the show.
- 12:03Speaker 6: Thank you, sir, Have a good day. Get outside.
- 12:06Speaker 3: I'm gonna do my best to get outside. Uh yeah, yeah,
- 12:09Speaker 3: because it's going to all gonna change again. The meteorologists
- 12:11Speaker 3: say by Thursday we're gonna be a back in the
- 12:13Speaker 3: forties with some snowshowers, spring many spring in West Virginia.
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- 14:39Speaker 3: zero zero. Wait, let me knock out some texts here.
- 14:41Speaker 3: Then we're going to turn it over to some folks
- 14:43Speaker 3: that are visiting from across the pond, if you will.
- 14:45Speaker 3: Colonel Ron Hughes is bringing them in as we speak
- 14:47Speaker 3: right now, and Ron just kind of if you put
- 14:50Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, we're going to have to share
- 14:51Speaker 3: some mics. I do want to get doctor Sacks on
- 14:53Speaker 3: one of the microphones though, I definitely want to get
- 14:55Speaker 3: doctor Casey Sacks on the microphone. So you guys get
- 14:58Speaker 3: settled in here and I will read a couple of texts.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Tex says how about the trade tariffs going into effect today.
- 15:04Speaker 3: The trade tariffs are to put small businesses out of operations,
- 15:07Speaker 3: so the big corporations, the buddies of Trump, can buy
- 15:10Speaker 3: up all the small competitors. Once complete, the tariffs will
- 15:13Speaker 3: be removed, so these even larger companies can make even
- 15:16Speaker 3: more money. It's a scam to centralize control and profits
- 15:19Speaker 3: in the hands of a few. The magas are either
- 15:21Speaker 3: complicit to ignorant of what's happening, or most likely both,
- 15:25Speaker 3: Tech says. Pack says we will have a two hundred
- 15:29Speaker 3: and fifty million dollars surplus. The governor says we have
- 15:31Speaker 3: a four hundred million dollar deficit. This is a shocking
- 15:34Speaker 3: level of disparity. Who is correct? You need to be
- 15:37Speaker 3: talking about this more and see how the real numbers
- 15:39Speaker 3: are going to shake out. Tex says one of the
- 15:43Speaker 3: very few things Larry Pack is right about is the
- 15:44Speaker 3: pirates will suck this year. According to a text, Tex
- 15:49Speaker 3: says a faith journey is more important than learning to read, write,
- 15:52Speaker 3: or do math. Lmao says the texture. Tex says that
- 15:56Speaker 3: the Hope Scholarship program is supposed to return tax money
- 15:59Speaker 3: to taxpayers right than week in public education, does the
- 16:02Speaker 3: Hope program determine how much tax money the parents and
- 16:05Speaker 3: guardians actually paid and determining the amount to give back
- 16:08Speaker 3: as the scholarship. Tex says a micro school is a
- 16:12Speaker 3: mini scam.
- 16:13Speaker 6: All right.
- 16:14Speaker 3: So last week you we recall in our discussion with
- 16:16Speaker 3: doctor Casey Sacks a Bridge Valley, she talked about getting
- 16:19Speaker 3: to visit sort sort of an exchange program with some
- 16:22Speaker 3: folks from Ireland. I ask then on the air if
- 16:24Speaker 3: we could arrange to have them stop by. They have
- 16:26Speaker 3: a very very busy day of travel, and the good
- 16:28Speaker 3: doctor made it happen. Doctor Casey Sachs, welcome in, Hi Dave,
- 16:33Speaker 3: thanks for having us, and thank you for bringing all
- 16:35Speaker 3: these folks here.
- 16:36Speaker 10: Clearly we needed a field trip to the radio station.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm sorry that you couldn't have better looking
- 16:41Speaker 3: people than me and Ron, you know, to have to visit.
- 16:43Speaker 10: That's not true. I already told you you've lost weight,
- 16:45Speaker 10: you're getting ready for TV.
- 16:48Speaker 3: We're not talking about that. I'm not talking about that.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Doctor Casey Sachs is here, and first of all, and
- 16:54Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to all these folks that are here
- 16:55Speaker 3: in studio with us. We're going to have to share
- 16:57Speaker 3: some microphones and so on and so on and so forth.
- 17:00Speaker 3: But talk about this program, doctor Sachs. How did this
- 17:02Speaker 3: whole think about? I know you mentioned a little bit
- 17:04Speaker 3: on Friday, but talk about that.
- 17:05Speaker 10: So we went into a partnership with Marshall University, really
- 17:08Speaker 10: interested in learning from some of our colleagues about how
- 17:11Speaker 10: do we do more workforce development, how do we talk
- 17:13Speaker 10: about economic diversification. And so we worked with Marshall to
- 17:17Speaker 10: write a grant so that we could do an exchange
- 17:19Speaker 10: project with some colleagues from Ireland. And here's the result.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Here are the colleagues. Here are the colleagues. Just meet
- 17:25Speaker 3: some of the colleagues. Go ahead and just want to
- 17:27Speaker 3: tell me. Tell me your name.
- 17:28Speaker 11: I'm Patricia Burriarty. I'm head of School of Business and
- 17:31Speaker 11: Humanities at Dundock Institute of Technology.
- 17:33Speaker 3: Okay, and I'm sorry. We don't have enough mics to
- 17:35Speaker 3: go around. You have to share, so one have you
- 17:37Speaker 3: had something, You're all going to have it by the
- 17:38Speaker 3: end of the day. So what's your name?
- 17:40Speaker 12: My name is Connor Brady. I'm an archaeologist. I'm a
- 17:43Speaker 12: lecturer in the Department of Humanities in Dundock.
- 17:46Speaker 3: It okay, I'm good morning everyone.
- 17:48Speaker 13: I'm Annalie Marghy. I'm the head of Department of Humanities
- 17:51Speaker 13: at Dundalk Institute of Technology, and I'm also a historian.
- 17:55Speaker 3: So had any of you been to America prior to
- 17:58Speaker 3: this or more specially West Virginia and anybody been to
- 18:01Speaker 3: West Virginia?
- 18:02Speaker 13: Never to West Virginia, but to other parts of America?
- 18:05Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So what's your over there? When did you
- 18:07Speaker 3: get into town?
- 18:08Speaker 13: We arrived in Charleston on Saturday night after our flights
- 18:12Speaker 13: from Ireland via Washington, DC. So we've been in Charleston
- 18:16Speaker 13: for probably half a day and we've been million hunting
- 18:19Speaker 13: and since so I think we're all agreed. It's a
- 18:22Speaker 13: beautiful and beautiful state and we've seen some wonderful sort
- 18:28Speaker 13: of landscapes so far. The people have been really really
- 18:30Speaker 13: warm and friendly and we've been really enjoying our state.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Doctor Sachson I talked about last week about and then
- 18:35Speaker 3: she's somebody that's actually visited Ireland. I think you said
- 18:38Speaker 3: right and several times. And there are a lot of similarities,
- 18:42Speaker 3: you know, between between Ireland and as far as the
- 18:45Speaker 3: topography and everything else goes here, A lot of similarities.
- 18:50Speaker 11: Yeah, so I suppose the first thing is moving away
- 18:53Speaker 11: from the landscape is the people. They're so friendly. It's
- 18:56Speaker 11: just like being at home. They're very chatty. We've noticed
- 18:59Speaker 11: lots of similarities, and the Irish culture is embedded, and
- 19:04Speaker 11: of course the links with Appalachia. So the first thing
- 19:08Speaker 11: when we were walking around, we were seeing Irish flags
- 19:11Speaker 11: and preparation for Saint Patrick's Day in March seventeenth, so
- 19:15Speaker 11: we were delighted to see so much green. And we're
- 19:20Speaker 11: still kind of getting used to being of interest to
- 19:23Speaker 11: people stopping us on the street once they hear our
- 19:25Speaker 11: accents and having a chat with us and asking us
- 19:27Speaker 11: about Ireland. And so many have relations or have links
- 19:32Speaker 11: to Ireland and through their family trees. So it's been
- 19:34Speaker 11: really nice.
- 19:35Speaker 3: And people saying you ain't from here, are you?
- 19:38Speaker 9: That's exactly.
- 19:40Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty much the way it sounds. What
- 19:42Speaker 3: about you? What about you, sir? Talk about your experiences
- 19:44Speaker 3: in West Virginia so far? Oh, have you come a
- 19:47Speaker 3: little bit closer.
- 19:48Speaker 12: The scale of the place is amazing. Like Ireland is
- 19:49Speaker 12: a fairly small place. We know most people locally. It's
- 19:53Speaker 12: a very community based kind of a place.
- 19:56Speaker 3: The distances are small.
- 19:57Speaker 12: You can drive from one end of Ireland to the
- 19:59Speaker 12: other eight hours or so at this stage, so that
- 20:03Speaker 12: the vastness of the landscape is something else. We don't
- 20:05Speaker 12: take internal flights in Ireland ever, so really you will
- 20:10Speaker 12: very very rarely, so so that's something different, very different.
- 20:14Speaker 12: The towns themselves are great as well, like they're so
- 20:17Speaker 12: new and the the the buildings are are amazing. We
- 20:21Speaker 12: don't have the same sort of architecture back home. Our
- 20:25Speaker 12: buildings are older. I suppose the streets tend to be
- 20:28Speaker 12: narrower because they're historic towns. You know, they go back,
- 20:31Speaker 12: you know, eight hundred years, a lot of them, and
- 20:34Speaker 12: so so that's quite different. That is striking. The streets
- 20:37Speaker 12: are wide, and the cars are fantastic. I love the cars,
- 20:41Speaker 12: Like my son is a petrol heade. That's what we
- 20:43Speaker 12: call them, people who are into into their automobiles.
- 20:48Speaker 3: Gearheads we would call them in America gear hearheads.
- 20:51Speaker 12: I'll tell them that when I get home. But it's
- 20:53Speaker 12: there's so much to see, it's it's so fantastic. And
- 20:55Speaker 12: we're hearing a little bit about the tourism as well.
- 20:57Speaker 12: In West Virginia, Whitewater raftings and sounds so exciting West Virginia.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Really, I mean, folks are just now starting to realize
- 21:05Speaker 3: what we have known here. There's so many, so many
- 21:08Speaker 3: aspects of tourism that is wonderful in West Virginia, from
- 21:11Speaker 3: the whitewater rafting to the mountain climbing and now we're
- 21:13Speaker 3: getting into the ATVs and you know, the with the
- 21:17Speaker 3: hatfil McCoy trail and whatever, and that's just that's just
- 21:20Speaker 3: some of the things. I mean, anytime I complained about
- 21:22Speaker 3: the weather, my good buddy who runs the Ski Association
- 21:25Speaker 3: in West Virginia will send me a text and say, Hey,
- 21:27Speaker 3: that's money, that's that's green, that's cash that's coming in here.
- 21:31Speaker 3: Talk about any of you about the state of higher
- 21:34Speaker 3: education in Ireland right now, what similarities do you have
- 21:37Speaker 3: with the with what some of the universities be at Marshall,
- 21:40Speaker 3: WV or certainly what doctor Sachs is doing out at
- 21:42Speaker 3: Bridge Valley right now.
- 21:44Speaker 11: So we see a huge amount of development at Marshall
- 21:47Speaker 11: and also at Bridge Valley, and we've gone through a
- 21:51Speaker 11: transformation I suppose in Ireland in the third level sector
- 21:55Speaker 11: and higher education, so we would have had institutes of
- 21:58Speaker 11: technology joined gathered to become technological universities in addition to
- 22:04Speaker 11: the traditional university. So while there are probably less higher
- 22:10Speaker 11: education institutes on paper, it's because they've joined together to
- 22:14Speaker 11: become universities and increase and enhance their offering. We never
- 22:18Speaker 11: get enough state funding. We're always finding interesting ways to
- 22:22Speaker 11: try and grow and develop student and these collaborations, international
- 22:30Speaker 11: collaborations are fantastic projects where we all learn. We see
- 22:34Speaker 11: that the common issues we're facing right across the globe
- 22:38Speaker 11: in offering third level education. So it's it's really interesting
- 22:43Speaker 11: for us and we always try to find and learn
- 22:46Speaker 11: from each other new ways of enhancing our programs and
- 22:49Speaker 11: new ways of attracting funding. So it's it's really interesting
- 22:53Speaker 11: to see what happens in other countries.
- 22:56Speaker 10: Tell you a little bit more. This morning, we were
- 22:58Speaker 10: talking about you're doing some industry training. Will you talk
- 23:00Speaker 10: about that a little bit. I know that's something listeners
- 23:03Speaker 10: are especially interested.
- 23:04Speaker 11: Yes, we're very excited in DKIT because we've just received
- 23:09Speaker 11: nine point seven million funding from the Peace Plus Fund,
- 23:14Speaker 11: which is awarded to third level institutes along the border
- 23:19Speaker 11: with Northern Ireland. So we will offer programs from three
- 23:24Speaker 11: of our schools in our university. In my school it's
- 23:28Speaker 11: the School of Business and Humanities. We will offer twenty
- 23:31Speaker 11: IT and business programs to local industry. So we have
- 23:35Speaker 11: about two and a half years to do that and
- 23:37Speaker 11: that will enhance our numbers and it will grow the
- 23:40Speaker 11: capacity within our region and hopefully attract foreign direct investment
- 23:45Speaker 11: and new companies to the area.
- 23:47Speaker 3: And after SAX, it sounds a lot like what we
- 23:49Speaker 3: talk to you about and the other universities in the
- 23:52Speaker 3: area as well. This is what we talk about about
- 23:55Speaker 3: partnering with these businesses and listening to what business needs
- 23:58Speaker 3: as opposed to just turning out totu udents. You guys
- 24:01Speaker 3: do such a great job there. We talked about it
- 24:02Speaker 3: last Friday of listening going to the businesses, being it
- 24:05Speaker 3: like a toyota. I know you have a lot of
- 24:06Speaker 3: you have a great partnership with them going and saying
- 24:09Speaker 3: what is it that you need, And it sounds like
- 24:12Speaker 3: that's exactly what they're doing over there as well.
- 24:13Speaker 10: It's really a great way to help promote economic development
- 24:16Speaker 10: in the community that you need to listen to the
- 24:18Speaker 10: employers who are in that community and it's a terrific
- 24:21Speaker 10: partnership they have going in Ireland and certainly something that
- 24:24Speaker 10: if we can emulate it, we want to.
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- 24:38Speaker 3: So doctor Sachs, what is on the schedule for the
- 24:41Speaker 3: rest of today?
- 24:42Speaker 10: This? Oh gosh, So everyone will get to come out
- 24:44Speaker 10: to Bridge Valley. They'll get to see all of the facilities.
- 24:46Speaker 10: We'll talk a lot about our industry partnerships. They have
- 24:49Speaker 10: doctor Jason Spencer here as their tour guide for the day,
- 24:53Speaker 10: and so he's really a wealth of knowledge. He runs
- 24:55Speaker 10: our Vex Robotics program, does a ton in the IT
- 24:58Speaker 10: skilled trades training areas, and so we'll really be able
- 25:01Speaker 10: to speak about some of those partnerships in IT and
- 25:04Speaker 10: manufacturing and hopefully we have a really productive visit.
- 25:08Speaker 3: Didn't take them to the capital today? Is that on
- 25:09Speaker 3: the agenda?
- 25:10Speaker 4: Is the Capital the agenda?
- 25:14Speaker 3: How how long are you folks here?
- 25:15Speaker 6: When you hit him back?
- 25:16Speaker 13: We had New York tomorrow actually.
- 25:20Speaker 3: Okay, okay, visiting colleges. We're here, okay, in New York and.
- 25:25Speaker 13: New Jersey as well.
- 25:26Speaker 3: There's none better than Bridge Valley, so you can you
- 25:29Speaker 3: can stop now, you don't have to go to the
- 25:30Speaker 3: rest time. Have you have you have you been able
- 25:33Speaker 3: to uh and I'll ask you to serve. Have we
- 25:35Speaker 3: been able to give them any true West Virginia culture yet?
- 25:38Speaker 3: Have you been to Tutor's Biscuit World yet?
- 25:39Speaker 6: Have they taken Okay? Okay, check that out because President
- 25:47Speaker 6: of Obama was visiting.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Because he pronounced it two doors. But that's okay, that's okay,
- 25:51Speaker 3: it's okay. I Pepperoni roles, okay, all right, are you
- 25:59Speaker 3: familiar with peppers? Pepperoni rolls are a West Virginia delicacy
- 26:03Speaker 3: and they started out of the coal mines because when
- 26:06Speaker 3: the miners would go this was like you know, turn
- 26:08Speaker 3: of the century, eighteen hundreds to the nineteen hundreds, when
- 26:11Speaker 3: the coal miners would go under ground, they had to
- 26:13Speaker 3: have things that would wouldn't spoil. And so pepperoni rolls
- 26:17Speaker 3: is just what the name implies. It's I'm explaining pepperoni roles. Hey,
- 26:23Speaker 3: I can talk food, okay, And basically, it's just it's
- 26:27Speaker 3: it's the bread with the pepperoni just stuffed in it,
- 26:30Speaker 3: because pepperoni's already cured and God knows what's in it anyway,
- 26:32Speaker 3: So it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be able to
- 26:35Speaker 3: stay good for like, you know, decades, probably, So we
- 26:38Speaker 3: got to get them to tutors. Okay, we got it.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Definitely got to get them to tutors. Hey, folks, I
- 26:42Speaker 3: appreciate you you being here. I hope you enjoy your
- 26:45Speaker 3: visit here in West Virginia after SAX. Thank you for
- 26:48Speaker 3: putting this whole thing together. You got pretty good weather.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Uh you know, it's gonna be like I was talking
- 26:53Speaker 3: to the State Treasure it's gonna be seventy degrees today
- 26:56Speaker 3: here in West Virginia, so you'll get to enjoy. I
- 26:59Speaker 3: wish we really I'd love to have them come back
- 27:02Speaker 3: in the autumn sometimes so they could see all the
- 27:03Speaker 3: fall colors because right now it's kind of dead because
- 27:05Speaker 3: we had to winter from hell here and it wasn't
- 27:08Speaker 3: very good. But thank you so much for being here, folks.
- 27:11Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
- 27:12Speaker 11: Thanks so much.
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- 30:04Speaker 3: a little bit later on the show to check in
- 30:05Speaker 3: with Wilson and Meadows live at the Capitol for talk line,
- 30:09Speaker 3: as we traditionally do Tuesday, Wednesdays and Thursdays. If their
- 30:13Speaker 3: schedule allows, we try to dialt them up at the
- 30:15Speaker 3: Capitol and see what's going on there. One of the
- 30:18Speaker 3: things I know that's going on is Cannabis Day at
- 30:22Speaker 3: the Capital. Don Smith is with us right now. Don,
- 30:24Speaker 3: good morning to welcome to the show.
- 30:25Speaker 16: Good morning and thanks so much for having me.
- 30:27Speaker 3: This has been a lively show. We went from the
- 30:29Speaker 3: State Treasurer talking about hope scholarships and budget numbers to
- 30:32Speaker 3: a bunch of folks from Ireland and I'm explaining what
- 30:34Speaker 3: pepperoni roles are to people from Ireland, and now here
- 30:37Speaker 3: you come in and talk cannabis. So it's a well
- 30:40Speaker 3: rounded show today, Don. So now, are you with a
- 30:43Speaker 3: specific group, don Or?
- 30:46Speaker 16: No, we are a pretty loose knit group we call
- 30:49Speaker 16: the Inner Circle. Okay, I'm the CEO of Agricarb Electric Corporation,
- 30:54Speaker 16: which we started to make camp Grafheene for advanced battery
- 30:59Speaker 16: and solar pen technologies. But we've got that and several
- 31:04Speaker 16: other little things going on right now. So very very
- 31:09Speaker 16: interesting times for the development of the cannabis industry in
- 31:13Speaker 16: the state. We're chomping at the bits and we're looking
- 31:17Speaker 16: for money. We're looking for deals.
- 31:19Speaker 3: And talk about the different things that you can do
- 31:22Speaker 3: with the technology and what you do because automatically and look,
- 31:26Speaker 3: I'm as guilty as anybody. People when you start talking
- 31:28Speaker 3: about cannabis and you start talking about hemp and all
- 31:30Speaker 3: of these things, and most people like myself don't even
- 31:33Speaker 3: know the difference enough to talk about it in an
- 31:36Speaker 3: intelligent way, right, But people think it's all about people
- 31:39Speaker 3: getting hot, and that's nothing could be further from the
- 31:42Speaker 3: truth exactly.
- 31:43Speaker 16: That's the neat thing about the cannabis industry. It's been
- 31:47Speaker 16: segmented into three distinct parts. Medical, which I mean it's
- 31:53Speaker 16: been used as a medicine for zillions of years. Then
- 31:57Speaker 16: you have the hip part, which is what we're involved
- 32:02Speaker 16: with everything between fiber and seed again graphene and it's
- 32:08Speaker 16: an excellent mop crop too. I wanted to show you this.
- 32:11Speaker 16: These are two vials of concentrated or of rare earth elements.
- 32:17Speaker 16: We grew some hemp and coal mine mid and we
- 32:21Speaker 16: figured out two different ways to get the rare earth's
- 32:24Speaker 16: out of the hemp Latin endo bottles of concentrated ore.
- 32:28Speaker 16: And that's just the beginning. I mean, you look into
- 32:31Speaker 16: the out west or making houses hand over fist with
- 32:36Speaker 16: hemp crete, a blend of hemp herd fibers and line
- 32:43Speaker 16: makes it up and the stuff is a superb building material.
- 32:47Speaker 16: It's practically fireproof, bug proof, rodent proof, and it's been
- 32:52Speaker 16: used for thousands of years and we just happen to
- 32:55Speaker 16: have everything we need to make that kind of a product.
- 32:57Speaker 16: Are now what we're aiming for with the hemp industry,
- 33:01Speaker 16: and I'm looking for some serious money on this. We
- 33:06Speaker 16: have to really start off with a customer, which we
- 33:09Speaker 16: think we might have at least one whopper, and then
- 33:13Speaker 16: reverse engineer all this to that seed going into the ground.
- 33:17Speaker 16: So we're getting there.
- 33:18Speaker 18: And.
- 33:20Speaker 16: There's a multitude of avenues. I mean, hemp crete is
- 33:23Speaker 16: one thing, HMP graphene, HIMP plastics here, paper and textiles,
- 33:28Speaker 16: just on and on and on. It really is the
- 33:31Speaker 16: most beneficial plant on earth now as far as getting
- 33:35Speaker 16: up getting high on it, yep, that works that way.
- 33:39Speaker 16: That's the medicinal part of it. So you know, it's
- 33:43Speaker 16: it's just one of those things that this has had
- 33:45Speaker 16: a bad rep for almost ninety years now, and we
- 33:49Speaker 16: aim to change it.
- 33:52Speaker 3: Why is it that you feel so passionately about this.
- 33:56Speaker 16: That's a very good question. And whenever I can came
- 34:00Speaker 16: back from overseas in the military, I started helping out
- 34:02Speaker 16: on farms and see, you know, just throw a lot
- 34:06Speaker 16: of bales of hay in the barn and I wound
- 34:08Speaker 16: up having to go back into cells. But when my
- 34:11Speaker 16: wife was afflicted with multiple sclerosis, it took me only
- 34:16Speaker 16: about five minutes worth of research to figure that part out,
- 34:20Speaker 16: and I decided to become politically involved at the Capitol.
- 34:23Speaker 16: That's been about fourteen years ago, and oh boy, have
- 34:27Speaker 16: things changed. We're in a lot better situation now. But
- 34:32Speaker 16: that part led to more research, and the more research
- 34:37Speaker 16: I've done, the more I have found that we are
- 34:39Speaker 16: in a situation where the most beneficial plant on earth
- 34:45Speaker 16: has been maligned, demonized, criminalized. It's completely unacceptable. How is
- 34:52Speaker 16: it that a supposedly free American cannot grow, use prosper
- 34:58Speaker 16: and enjoy the most beneficial plant on earth. Thomas Jefferson
- 35:04Speaker 16: called it a gift of divine providence.
- 35:06Speaker 3: I was going to say a lot of people think
- 35:07Speaker 3: it was put here by God for a reason.
- 35:09Speaker 16: Well, it is the most beneficial plant on earth, and
- 35:13Speaker 16: the people in the faith based communities that are against it,
- 35:17Speaker 16: I'd strongly urge they reconsider their position and reconcile it
- 35:21Speaker 16: with Genesis. That's just all there is to it. We
- 35:25Speaker 16: are dealing with the most beneficial plant on earth period.
- 35:30Speaker 16: If you can find another plant more beneficial, let me know.
- 35:34Speaker 16: But I can't find any.
- 35:36Speaker 3: And there's so many again, and I have the text
- 35:38Speaker 3: here and I'm going to go ahead and read it
- 35:39Speaker 3: to you. And the reason I want to read this
- 35:41Speaker 3: text is because I know it's something that you get
- 35:43Speaker 3: all the time, and it's something that we kind of
- 35:45Speaker 3: talked to the beginning of the segment. The text says
- 35:47Speaker 3: West Virginia doesn't need to legalize weed. With all the
- 35:50Speaker 3: addiction to other drugs and alcohol in the state, which
- 35:52Speaker 3: has destroyed many lives in their families, West Virginia doesn't
- 35:56Speaker 3: need this misery on its people. I read that from
- 36:00Speaker 3: a texture, and I appreciate the texture for texting that in.
- 36:02Speaker 3: But you get that a lot because they're only looking
- 36:05Speaker 3: at one side of it. I gathered don exactly.
- 36:08Speaker 16: They're only looking at the one side of it. And
- 36:10Speaker 16: I will mention that jam Or research said, wherever weed
- 36:15Speaker 16: is readily available, you have a whole lot less problems
- 36:18Speaker 16: with these hard drugs. These people do not understand that
- 36:22Speaker 16: the human body has a or an indo cannabinoid system.
- 36:27Speaker 16: If the plant is made for us. We're made for
- 36:30Speaker 16: the plant. Now, their little tirades are going on about
- 36:36Speaker 16: people not being able to hold their liquor. You know
- 36:38Speaker 16: that's I can appreciate that, But whenever it comes down
- 36:42Speaker 16: to brass tacks, is that misconception worth all the money
- 36:48Speaker 16: that we're spending on incarcerating and trying to keep the
- 36:52Speaker 16: most beneficial plant on earth tamp down. I don't think so.
- 36:57Speaker 16: If you look at the records, twenty four million Americans
- 37:02Speaker 16: have run afoul of this law since thirty seven. That's
- 37:06Speaker 16: enough to fill Super Bowl Stadium four hundred and sixty
- 37:09Speaker 16: plus times for an aerial view of that. That's an
- 37:12Speaker 16: awful lot of lives run not by the most benefitial
- 37:16Speaker 16: plan on Earth, but by a misguided system that defies
- 37:21Speaker 16: the very essence of the American Revolution and the natural order.
- 37:26Speaker 16: Lots of money have been spent foolishly whenever we could
- 37:30Speaker 16: be using this plant for a whole lot of other
- 37:32Speaker 16: things too.
- 37:33Speaker 3: And I will say this too. I got a lot
- 37:34Speaker 3: of friends in law enforcement, and I don't know where
- 37:37Speaker 3: they are and legalizing certain things, but they will tell
- 37:40Speaker 3: you if they have to choose between dealing with someone
- 37:42Speaker 3: who may have gotten high and someone who is drunk.
- 37:45Speaker 3: They'll take the high person every time, do I mean,
- 37:48Speaker 3: it's the worst thing they're going to do is say,
- 37:50Speaker 3: can you stop by my local goal mark because I
- 37:52Speaker 3: need some Captain crunch or somethingzza time. I'm just kind
- 37:56Speaker 3: of stereotyppen there. I want to talk about that for
- 37:58Speaker 3: a moment with the current makeup of the legislature, because again,
- 38:02Speaker 3: we are a super duper red state, right not exactly
- 38:07Speaker 3: beating the proverbial drum for cannabis, I would think, does
- 38:11Speaker 3: that concern you with the makeup of the legislature.
- 38:13Speaker 16: It always does, But again, urge people to understand that
- 38:18Speaker 16: we have the entire high moral ground in all of this.
- 38:23Speaker 16: We also come to town with money. At this point,
- 38:27Speaker 16: we have proven producers in the industry and we can
- 38:32Speaker 16: get this thing rolling. On the recreational part really quickly.
- 38:36Speaker 16: AGHMP needs to have some of our rules and regulations
- 38:40Speaker 16: smoothed over. We're very overregulated in that and it takes
- 38:44Speaker 16: away from any degree of certainty we have in our
- 38:47Speaker 16: business plans. So there's a lot of things to take
- 38:53Speaker 16: into an account with the current makeup of the legislature.
- 38:57Speaker 16: But you know, I've found that over the years. We
- 39:01Speaker 16: pick our fights. We picked them wisely, and I am
- 39:06Speaker 16: so proud of the people of Western Virginia. We are
- 39:09Speaker 16: the only state in the Union that passed any kind
- 39:14Speaker 16: of cannabis legislation without the help of the big DC
- 39:18Speaker 16: cannabis lobbies. No matter who they are they come in.
- 39:21Speaker 16: Take a look, take a look at the legislature. Well,
- 39:24Speaker 16: you don't have it in you see, we did it.
- 39:27Speaker 16: We did it all with grassroots and the gasoline money.
- 39:31Speaker 16: It took for those of us in the inner circle
- 39:33Speaker 16: to make it up to the Capitol. Took a long
- 39:35Speaker 16: time to do, but we did it. We're the only
- 39:38Speaker 16: ones in the country to do it. I'm so proud
- 39:42Speaker 16: of this state's people for making a stand like this.
- 39:46Speaker 16: It's a stand with nature and it's a stand with
- 39:50Speaker 16: the very essence of democracy. We petition, We got.
- 39:54Speaker 3: It, and I will say this too as a state.
- 39:58Speaker 3: And look, there's nobody in the world more proud than
- 40:00Speaker 3: of coal than I am. I'm from a coal background.
- 40:02Speaker 3: My whole family was in the coal mining industry. But
- 40:06Speaker 3: at some point, you know, we are the market is
- 40:09Speaker 3: going to start to transition away from coal. May not
- 40:12Speaker 3: be tomorrow, may not be five years from now, but
- 40:14Speaker 3: it's going to be at some point we got to
- 40:16Speaker 3: start looking at other things. You know, West Virginia started
- 40:20Speaker 3: out as an agricultural state. That's what we were, and
- 40:23Speaker 3: many parts of West Virginia still are the Eastern Panhandle
- 40:25Speaker 3: things of that nature. But at some point we got
- 40:29Speaker 3: to look to other stuff. And I was talking earlier
- 40:32Speaker 3: with some of the folks about tourism, and Western tourism
- 40:34Speaker 3: is wonderful, and I one hundred percent don support tourism. However,
- 40:40Speaker 3: you got to look at the jobs that come along
- 40:42Speaker 3: with the tourism. Yes, the people come here and they
- 40:44Speaker 3: spend money, and that's all wonderful. We appreciate that. We've
- 40:48Speaker 3: got to look at sustaining jobs. What you're talking about here,
- 40:51Speaker 3: in my mind, is you're talking about an industry that
- 40:55Speaker 3: could possibly if people we can get people to look
- 40:59Speaker 3: at it and try to go get away from some
- 41:00Speaker 3: of the stereotypes and the stigma. If you can get
- 41:03Speaker 3: people to refocus on it, you're talking about an industry
- 41:07Speaker 3: that could be as big as what the coal industry was,
- 41:10Speaker 3: as the steel industry was, as all these industries.
- 41:13Speaker 16: Right, And you've brought about an interesting perspective on this
- 41:18Speaker 16: West Virginia's geographic position in the country lends itself to
- 41:24Speaker 16: all of this. The entire state is located in a
- 41:28Speaker 16: grow zone, meaning that the cannabis plant does quite well here.
- 41:32Speaker 16: But we cannot outgrow our neighboring states with the flatlands
- 41:36Speaker 16: and multiple acres of what I call long stock being produced.
- 41:45Speaker 16: But we're along the rivers where along the railroads, and
- 41:50Speaker 16: like I say, we're out looking for deals. We're wanting
- 41:53Speaker 16: to put in the processing plants to take the vast
- 41:59Speaker 16: fiber and the herd fiber apart, process the seeds, get
- 42:04Speaker 16: that fiber properly set up and sold. But we're only
- 42:08Speaker 16: an eight hour drive to sixty five percent of this
- 42:12Speaker 16: nation's marketplace. And we're only a five hour drive, I
- 42:18Speaker 16: believe it is to sixty percent. We're not that far
- 42:22Speaker 16: out of the ports of Cleveland, Norfolk or Baltimore. So
- 42:26Speaker 16: international trade is not even I mean it is quite possible.
- 42:34Speaker 16: Now moving on to the coal industry. You know, like
- 42:38Speaker 16: I say, I've got two little bottles of concentrated rare
- 42:41Speaker 16: earth elements or hemp is a very good mop crop.
- 42:48Speaker 16: It's a hyper accumulator. It draws up whatever's in the
- 42:51Speaker 16: ground and its internal alchemy will break down these molecules
- 42:55Speaker 16: into their constituent elements, which is very cool. Long story short,
- 43:01Speaker 16: we can go to these zombie mines all over the
- 43:03Speaker 16: state and gring them up and make them marketable properties. Again,
- 43:09Speaker 16: they're dead investments right now, but we can change that.
- 43:14Speaker 16: And it's just a matter of getting three words straight.
- 43:17Speaker 16: It's all politics.
- 43:19Speaker 3: And speaking of which, we got to let you go.
- 43:21Speaker 3: I know you're heading over to the capital today. What
- 43:24Speaker 3: if you could leave the listeners or the legislators, many
- 43:28Speaker 3: of whom listen to this show, if you could leave
- 43:30Speaker 3: them with a simple thirty seconds commercial, if you will
- 43:33Speaker 3: for this industry, do it, Don.
- 43:36Speaker 16: That's a very good one. I mean it's a multi
- 43:38Speaker 16: fasceted perspective. But again, we are dealing with the most
- 43:44Speaker 16: beneficial plant on earth. We are in that grow zone.
- 43:49Speaker 16: We are strategically located to take advantage of this industry.
- 43:54Speaker 6: Make it so.
- 43:56Speaker 16: I'll help out any way I can.
- 43:57Speaker 3: Don Smith, appreciate you being here, man, Thanks a lot.
- 44:00Speaker 16: Thank you, sir. I really appreciate Charles's time. And this
- 44:03Speaker 16: is brilliant.
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- 47:08Speaker 3: Oh boy, do we have some text to get to
- 47:11Speaker 3: Texas cannabis, particularly with the high THHD content, can impair memory, attention,
- 47:16Speaker 3: and decision making. There's a well established link between cannabis
- 47:19Speaker 3: use and psychosis schizophrenia. Smoking cannabis delivers carcinogens like tar
- 47:24Speaker 3: and other things similar to tobacco, raising risks of chronic
- 47:30Speaker 3: bronchitis and lung damage. Cannabis use cost is deadly, impaired
- 47:34Speaker 3: driving incidents. Workplace studies show higher absenteeism and lower productivity
- 47:38Speaker 3: among regular users. Legal markets are also also strained public resources.
- 47:43Speaker 3: Tax revenue from sales often gets offset by health care
- 47:46Speaker 3: and enforcement cost. In Canada post twenty eighteen legalization, healthcare
- 47:51Speaker 3: spending time to cannabis related issues rose sharply. Smart smoking
- 47:54Speaker 3: pot is not smart. Smoking pot is stupid, It says
- 47:57Speaker 3: a texture Texas. Never before have I heard someone speak
- 48:01Speaker 3: more truth on this show. I think that was supposed
- 48:05Speaker 3: to be a compliment.
- 48:08Speaker 16: Lol.
- 48:08Speaker 3: High moral ground, says a text TEXTA White to President
- 48:13Speaker 3: Trump say he and Vladimir Putin went through a lot
- 48:15Speaker 3: together when they accused of his colluding in the twenty
- 48:17Speaker 3: sixteen election. The evidence of this was significant. Text says,
- 48:24Speaker 3: we talk about all the money a state could make
- 48:26Speaker 3: legalizing pot. History tells us it will cost the state
- 48:29Speaker 3: much more than it will make do to the addiction
- 48:32Speaker 3: of the citizens. History again trying to play out, tex
- 48:36Speaker 3: says Dave. West Virginia citizens have common sense and will
- 48:39Speaker 3: not legalize this mind numbing plant. Says a Texter. Texas,
- 48:46Speaker 3: do you think there will be a guest who's in
- 48:48Speaker 3: West Virginia for a few days and won't be nice
- 48:51Speaker 3: about their experience? Like, yeah, Dave, not a fan so far.
- 48:54Speaker 3: I think I got a spinal cord compression factor from
- 48:57Speaker 3: hitting a pothole on the way over here. Tex says,
- 49:01Speaker 3: today's Christians are cherry pickers who use the Bibles to
- 49:07Speaker 3: oppress their own world view. Texas, Republicans in the state
- 49:11Speaker 3: are trying to force women and girls to give birth
- 49:13Speaker 3: to rate babies and legalized marriage to minor girls. They
- 49:16Speaker 3: are too busy for other revenue sources. As a texture Texas, Dave,
- 49:22Speaker 3: I noticed that the things are going down. Stock market
- 49:24Speaker 3: has went way down, So when are my egg and
- 49:26Speaker 3: gas prices going to go down? Still waiting, says a
- 49:29Speaker 3: text tex says Dave. Muskans to show respect to the
- 49:33Speaker 3: president and put on a suit and stop wearing those
- 49:36Speaker 3: dead man T shirts and hat says a Texter. Coming
- 49:40Speaker 3: up on tomorrow's show, we'll talk some more under the
- 49:43Speaker 3: dome stuff. Stephen Allan Adams from Ogden Newspapers will join
- 49:46Speaker 3: us on the show tomorrow, Texas Dave. Great to hear
- 49:51Speaker 3: the folks from Ireland on today. Love to hear their accent. Well,
- 49:53Speaker 3: they said the same thing about us when they were here. Yeah,
- 49:56Speaker 3: I ain't got no accent. What's talking about? You wouldn't
- 49:59Speaker 3: be happy to know that. Thanks of a legislature, we
- 50:01Speaker 3: now know what men and women are since apparently we
- 50:03Speaker 3: saw the foster care crisis peia four hundred million dollar
- 50:07Speaker 3: hole or not in the budget. We got this though.
- 50:10Speaker 3: Brad has a story post to wv metronews dot com.
- 50:13Speaker 3: The bill SB four fifty six. It passed the Senate
- 50:15Speaker 3: thirty two to one with one absence, now goes to
- 50:19Speaker 3: the House, which I'm told is working on their own bill.
- 50:22Speaker 3: As Brad points out in his story, the bill literally
- 50:25Speaker 3: called defining men and women and says a woman is
- 50:29Speaker 3: an adult human of the female sex and a man
- 50:32Speaker 3: is an adult human of the male sex. In quotes glad,
- 50:37Speaker 3: we got that taken care of, and also, according to
- 50:40Speaker 3: Brad's story, aims to define at to preserve single sex spaces,
- 50:44Speaker 3: particularly in bathrooms, dorms, at domestic violent shelters.
- 50:47Speaker 6: Now.
- 50:47Speaker 3: Senator Joey Garcia out of Marion County was the only
- 50:50Speaker 3: Senator to vote against the bill, saying it would hurt
- 50:53Speaker 3: some of his words, his vulnerable neighbors. So people are
- 50:58Speaker 3: going to applaud this and look, make no stake about it.
- 51:00Speaker 3: I don't think women should be in men's sports or
- 51:03Speaker 3: vice versa, or using each other's bathrooms, et cetera, et cetera,
- 51:06Speaker 3: although I will say most Republicans have a strains fascination
- 51:09Speaker 3: with bathrooms. What I don't get, my opinion, is because
- 51:16Speaker 3: some national organization said this was a problem in West Virginia,
- 51:19Speaker 3: which it's not. Our lawmakers are spending a whole lot
- 51:22Speaker 3: of time on stuff like this when our foster system
- 51:25Speaker 3: is in crisis, major problems with Peia not being sustainable
- 51:30Speaker 3: foster care system. As I'm you know, kids staying in
- 51:32Speaker 3: hotels and barns wherever else we can stick them. But
- 51:36Speaker 3: what we are focusing on here blows my mind. And
- 51:40Speaker 3: in the meantime, the leads story on the website this
- 51:43Speaker 3: morning is a judge has now dismissed a big time
- 51:45Speaker 3: lawsuit concerning foster kids, saying the truth fault with the
- 51:49Speaker 3: broken system lives lives with his words. Elected leaders like
- 51:55Speaker 3: the governor and the legislature. Now it doesn't mean necessarily
- 51:57Speaker 3: this governor, but I mean the governor's office of a legislature.
- 52:01Speaker 3: Six thousand kids are currently in state foster care custody.
- 52:05Speaker 3: US History Judge Joseph Goodwin wrote in his memorandum on
- 52:09Speaker 3: the case, the state government retains every tool to improve
- 52:11Speaker 3: the foster care system, and elected officials are entrusted and
- 52:14Speaker 3: obligated to do so, and if they fail, they could
- 52:16Speaker 3: be thrown out of office. I hope that you're happy
- 52:19Speaker 3: with the bill you got. Yay, And we still did
- 52:22Speaker 3: nothing for foster care, not done a damn thing for
- 52:24Speaker 3: business in this state. But that's just my opinion. All right,
- 52:27Speaker 3: Gotta go heading to the Capitol. See you tomorrow. Till then,
- 52:30Speaker 3: have fun. I love somebody. We're in Cdchsam ninty six
- 52:45Speaker 3: point five.
- 52:45Speaker 2: That then Charleston one O four point five Cross Lanes,
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- 52:51Speaker 3: We are proud to live here too.