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The Rita Panahi Show | 28 May · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scoring rules Australia.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panekey Show.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panehy Show. Coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight, the ABC board is in crisis, Motor Ray
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  Speaker 3: presenters Inflammatory and the Australia commentary Sophie Elsworth with the
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  Speaker 3: latest one in five detainees released after the High Courts
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  Speaker 3: n z YQ ruling has.
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  Speaker 2: Been charged with a new crime.
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  Speaker 3: Gary Hardgrave will join me to discuss and doctor Claire
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  Speaker 3: Rowe on the impact pornography is having on young minds
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  Speaker 3: and of course Lefty is losing it.
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  Speaker 2: Will have this teachable moment tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Instead of using the typical mom and dad parent titles,
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  Speaker 4: there's actually gender neutral and non binary parent titles that
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  Speaker 4: exist NOPA, Nori opah, Pere Pomp, Pom SASA and Zizzy pomp.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll also look at a remarkable crash landing of
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  Speaker 3: a light plane at Bankstown Airport where the pilot cleared
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  Speaker 3: the hangar by about a meter by executing a perfect
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  Speaker 3: crash landing. But first let's bring in Sophie Ellsworth, media
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  Speaker 3: writer The Australian. Sophie, you've reported in the Australian Today that.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC the board.
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  Speaker 3: There is in crisis over Laura Tingle's weekend out burst,
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  Speaker 3: a story you broke in The Australian. Some remarkable comments
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  Speaker 3: at the Sydney Writers Festive. Always you call Australia racist country,
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  Speaker 3: unleashed a bile philed die tribe against the Opposition leader
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  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton, accusing him of giving license to people to
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  Speaker 3: engage in racial abuse.
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  Speaker 2: What more can you.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me about what's happening at the ABC and the
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  Speaker 3: board's response.
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  Speaker 5: We'll read to.
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  Speaker 6: These were extraordinary comments when I went to the Sydney's
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  Speaker 6: Writers Festival on Sunday to hear Laura Tingle unleash on
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  Speaker 6: Peter Dutton and call Australia a racist country. Now this
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  Speaker 6: is causing issues within the ABC. I know from sources
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  Speaker 6: within the ABC that there has been discussions among board
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  Speaker 6: members about this problem, and they're due to meet in June.
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  Speaker 5: But now it's.
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  Speaker 6: Under consideration whether they bring forward this discussion about Laura
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  Speaker 6: Tingle rather than wait till the board meeting in June.
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  Speaker 6: But rechil this is a problem because not only is
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  Speaker 6: she their most high profile political correspondent at the ABC,
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  Speaker 6: she is on the board herself. So if they have
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  Speaker 6: a board meeting and discuss matters relating to her.
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  Speaker 5: She has to recuse herself.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a problem.
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  Speaker 3: Does another staff appointed board member step in place of
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  Speaker 3: her or they know one day because she.
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  Speaker 5: Was voted into that role, she's in a five.
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  Speaker 6: Year term, she's twelve months in and already this is
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  Speaker 6: causing headaches for them. But Rita, this is where Kim Williams.
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  Speaker 6: He is the new chair. He only started in March,
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  Speaker 6: and as many people who know Kim know, he's not
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  Speaker 6: one to hold back. So I have put questions to
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  Speaker 6: him about this, but he has not responded.
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  Speaker 5: But I can't imagine he's too thrilled about this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the ABC is very upset with your reporting, all
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  Speaker 3: the facts you are sharing with the audience, and they're
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  Speaker 3: disputing that there is any sort of crisis at board level.
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  Speaker 7: What's your response to that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they can do that, Rita, but that is not
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  Speaker 6: the case. They can put out their statements. I went
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  Speaker 6: to them yesterday with a series of questions.
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  Speaker 5: They gave me no comment.
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  Speaker 6: They've had ample time to respond to questions and they
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  Speaker 6: did not, you know, on this whole thing that started
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  Speaker 6: on Sunday. Mind you, I question them on Sunday about
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  Speaker 6: it as well. So I stand by my reporting.
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  Speaker 3: Now you called Laura Tingle the ABC's highest profile political correspondent,
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  Speaker 3: I would argue she is a commentator, So her comments
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  Speaker 3: about whatever she thinks of Australia, whatever she thinks of
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  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton, her what sound to me like these paranoid
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  Speaker 3: fantasies of migrants being abused at Open for inspections because
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  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton dared to point out that when you have
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  Speaker 3: record number of migrants coming in, of course it's going
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  Speaker 3: to add to the housing crisis. But she is not
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  Speaker 3: a correspondent, She's a commentator. And those lines of the
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  Speaker 3: ABC between opinion, which is what this program is, and
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  Speaker 3: strictly news reporting are completely blurred.
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  Speaker 7: I would argue there.
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  Speaker 2: Are no lines, and I think we saw that.
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  Speaker 3: With the Voice the referendum, where we had so much
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  Speaker 3: reporting from the ABC supposedly news reporting, impartial news reporting
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  Speaker 3: that was pro yes activism.
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  Speaker 6: But Rita, she is a journalist at the ABC.
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  Speaker 5: Now she does do analysis, which is what is commentary.
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  Speaker 6: But she's sitting there interview Peter Dutton, she's interviewing Anthony Alberzi.
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  Speaker 5: She does reports on the Seven thirty programs.
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  Speaker 6: So if they want to try and argue, or if
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  Speaker 6: anyone wants to try and argue that she's not a
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  Speaker 6: journalist she's a commentator.
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  Speaker 5: That is not the case the ABC. She is a journalist.
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  Speaker 6: She is their political correspondent and she reports not only
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  Speaker 6: you know, political reports, but she interviews people and I
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  Speaker 6: think that's journalists.
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  Speaker 3: Now we saw some more warped reporting from the ABC.
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  Speaker 7: Again, this is news coverage.
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  Speaker 3: It's not commentary, analysis, opinion, what do you want to
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  Speaker 3: call It is supposed to be news coverage.
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  Speaker 2: And they've been called out for this.
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  Speaker 3: Because it is just a bizarre way to describe her
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  Speaker 3: mass firing rockets into all across Israel, including Tel Aviv.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC called it a show of resilience.
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  Speaker 3: More than seven months into Israel's massive asc and ground offensive.
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  Speaker 7: A show of resilience.
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  Speaker 3: It's just really strange words to describe the actions of
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  Speaker 3: a terror group raining rockets down on civilians.
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  Speaker 2: Now, another front.
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  Speaker 3: Page exclusive from you, this time on Channel nine. Today
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  Speaker 3: CEO Mike Sneezebe was the one to sign off on
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  Speaker 3: that million dollar payout to form a news boss starn Wig.
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  Speaker 3: The network has also claimed that nine chairmen and former
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  Speaker 3: treasurer Pett Costello played no role in the payout.
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  Speaker 7: What else can you tell us about this story?
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  Speaker 3: This just seems to be rolling along and gathering momentum
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  Speaker 3: each day.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Rita, this story is far from over.
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  Speaker 6: It's really quite extraordinary that Nine are saying Mike Sneezeby
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  Speaker 6: ticked off Darren Wick's payout. Now we have reported at
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  Speaker 6: The Australian that he got a payout of around one
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  Speaker 6: million dollars. Now this comes at a time when all
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  Speaker 6: media companies, including Nine Entertainment, are under financial pressure. But
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  Speaker 6: the fallout is continued into deep and there is so
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  Speaker 6: much unrest in Nine. My phone has been going running
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  Speaker 6: hot since we broke this story last week about the
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  Speaker 6: allegation and report against Darren Wick that started this whole thing.
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  Speaker 6: But to date, Peter Costello, the chair of nine, has
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  Speaker 6: not spoken.
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  Speaker 2: Has it been blindsided here?
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  Speaker 3: Is it feasible that the chair doesn't know about a
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  Speaker 3: million dollar payout?
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  Speaker 5: Rita? I would find that incredibly hard to believe.
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  Speaker 6: But the issue here is not just management, it's at
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  Speaker 6: board level, it's the staff on the ground. This is
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  Speaker 6: right through Channel nine. They have an enormous problem on
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  Speaker 6: their hands. Now they announced yesterday Mike Sneezey announced there's
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  Speaker 6: going to be an external independent review into the conduct
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  Speaker 6: and behavior at nine. But I think his tenure is
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  Speaker 6: in jeopardy. I mean, these stories are not stopping. These
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  Speaker 6: allegations and claims against staff, including Darren Wick, mainly Darren Wick,
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  Speaker 6: are not going away.
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  Speaker 3: And the new news boss at nine, Fiona Dia, has
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  Speaker 3: come out and said that there is a culture of.
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  Speaker 2: Power games of the network.
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  Speaker 3: The Sydney Morning Heralds reported that Starfiell, that former boss
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  Speaker 3: Star and Week has created this culture of ghosting, belittling
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  Speaker 3: and favoritism. Goodness may it sounds like some sort of
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  Speaker 3: dating game show.
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  Speaker 6: It's pretty worrying stuff, Reacher, and this is going through
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  Speaker 6: their newsrooms across the country.
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  Speaker 5: This is not just isolated to Sydney.
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  Speaker 8: Now.
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  Speaker 5: He left in March.
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  Speaker 6: He said he went on for a walk along the
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  Speaker 6: beach and he decided he was tired and he needed
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  Speaker 6: a break.
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  Speaker 5: Nine.
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  Speaker 6: We were asking them where is he. We were told
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  Speaker 6: he was coming back. That was not the case. There's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people that seem to.
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  Speaker 5: Be covering up what is actually happening here.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The Daily Telegraph has been slammed not by Kevin Rudd
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  Speaker 3: this time, but by the Chinese Communist Party. Their officials
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  Speaker 3: are not happy that the Chinese Consulate General in Sydney
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  Speaker 3: sent emails to Australian politicians criticizing them for attending a
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  Speaker 3: gala in celebration of Taiwan and something the Daily Telegraph
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  Speaker 3: reported on. So the CCP is not happy with the Telly.
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought that's a badge of honor for them.
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  Speaker 5: Well, isn't it?
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  Speaker 7: Rata?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, should they be concerned that the CCP is
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  Speaker 6: not happy.
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  Speaker 5: With their reporting? Probably highlights that they're doing a very
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  Speaker 5: good job.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And finally, Sophie Richard Kemp is an outsider's favorite.
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  Speaker 2: He is a fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Voice on geopolitical issues and he's been in Australia and
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  Speaker 3: been shocked by what he's seen on our university campuses.
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  Speaker 3: Writing in The Telly today, he said they've gone full
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  Speaker 3: hamas he said, particularly about Sydney UNI. Just like inside Gaza,
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  Speaker 3: free speech is not allowed on the encamp Perhaps the
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  Speaker 3: campus rabel rousers are afraid their minions will say too
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  Speaker 3: much about their real agenda or reveal their lack of
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  Speaker 3: knowledge about what they are actually protesting about He is
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  Speaker 3: a retired British Army commander, Sophie, and if he's shocked
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  Speaker 3: by the level of extremism on these university campuses, I
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  Speaker 3: think we should listen.
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  Speaker 5: We should listen.
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  Speaker 6: But Richard, it's been pretty horrifying some of the images
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  Speaker 6: that have been coming out from the university's people scared,
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  Speaker 6: particularly Jewish students, saying that they're scared to even go
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  Speaker 6: to university. This is a really serious problem that the
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  Speaker 6: country is facing at the moment, and these activists at
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  Speaker 6: the universities, I argue, you should be more focused on
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  Speaker 6: getting their degrees and getting good jobs than you know,
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  Speaker 6: making you know, a problem for themselves.
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  Speaker 5: So they're making these universities.
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  Speaker 2: They're not just.
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  Speaker 3: Making a problem for themselves and making a problem for
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  Speaker 3: the kids who do want to go to classes and study,
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  Speaker 3: because they are obstructing that. They are intimidating students. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody would have watched Josh Friedenberg's documentary Never
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  Speaker 3: Again earlier tonight. It lays out precisely what is wrong
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  Speaker 3: with the leadership of these universities and also the activism
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  Speaker 3: on campuses.
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  Speaker 2: So feelsworth Thank you so much for your time this evening.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Reta joining me now.
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  Speaker 3: Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Gary, let's start with the
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  Speaker 3: news that one in five detainees released after the High
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  Speaker 3: Courts and Zedyq decision has.
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  Speaker 2: Been charged with a new crime.
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  Speaker 3: We've had twenty eight be charged and let's not forget
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  Speaker 3: they haven't been released that long. And now we've got
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  Speaker 3: dozens more convicted criminals planning to use a ministerial direction
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  Speaker 3: to successfully appeal their visa cancelations. This ministerial direction is
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  Speaker 3: from the Immigration Minister.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Jarles is.
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  Speaker 3: Just stuffing up this portfolio, and it's an important portfolio.
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  Speaker 2: Gary, is the Prime minister going to make a move here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how the factions work. I really don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but read I got to say it is a nation
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  Speaker 1: building portfolio and that's what immigration should be. It should
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  Speaker 1: be a portfolio of the Australians are very confident in
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  Speaker 1: is being run properly and it's got to be an
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  Speaker 1: Australia's best interest that anybody who migrates here or visits
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  Speaker 1: here comes. It's got to be Australia's best interest if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to breach the trust and there's what over
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty or so of these people that
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  Speaker 1: have been released for whatever reason, with alleged crimes in
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  Speaker 1: the background, and all sorts of problems that may well
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  Speaker 1: be facing as a result of what they've done. Since
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  Speaker 1: that is a breach of trust, these are things that
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  Speaker 1: ministers should intervene in. If ministers should have opinions on,
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  Speaker 1: ministers should act on. But what I don't get with
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  Speaker 1: this Blake is he doesn't seem to be acting in
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  Speaker 1: Australia's interests. It seems to be oh, someone's had a
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  Speaker 1: word to him about this, or someone's had a word
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  Speaker 1: to him about that. It shouldn't be a giveaway. This
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  Speaker 1: should be a tough thing to get the status to stay.
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  Speaker 1: And if people pray you break the law again, well
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the second chance is out the door,
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  Speaker 1: and don't let it hit you on the way out.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty simple. We need toughness in this because reader for
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  Speaker 1: the tens of thousands who do comply with the laws,
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  Speaker 1: they need to know that their status is assured because
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  Speaker 1: the few do the wrong thing of being acted on
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  Speaker 1: in a tough way. This minister is all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: He should go The Prime mister hasn't got the courage
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  Speaker 1: to do it though.
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  Speaker 3: He has just been consistently inepty is not up to
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  Speaker 3: this portfolio, and the fact that he hasn't been moved
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  Speaker 3: along to something that is more fitting his ability is.
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  Speaker 2: An indictment on the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's very clear that he is not equipped to
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  Speaker 3: deal with this portfolio. It seems every step of the
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  Speaker 3: way he has stuffed up. Now let's talk about Queensland.
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  Speaker 3: Their labor government is being accused of failing to for
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  Speaker 3: the state's population. Boom figures reveal it's Queensland's on track
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  Speaker 3: to hits decade old prediction of five point seventy three
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  Speaker 3: million by twenty twenty six. Premier step Miles earlier this
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  Speaker 3: month called on the federal government to slow down net
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  Speaker 3: migration from overseas, arguing the population is growing faster than
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  Speaker 3: new homes can be built. Yes, thank you, Captain obvious.
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  Speaker 3: But his own government is being accused of abysmal planning
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  Speaker 3: failures for failing to heed their own previous warnings. Is
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  Speaker 3: this going to become an issue coming up to the
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  Speaker 3: state election. It seems like Stephen Miles is a smart
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  Speaker 3: political operator. He can read the opinion polls. He knows
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  Speaker 3: people want to see cuts to migration. He's backed Peter Dutton.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, he said that was my idea that Peter
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  Speaker 3: Dutton took. But when you scrutinize the Labor government in
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  Speaker 3: Queensland the guilty of ill planning themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. The only plan they've got is how to give
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  Speaker 1: more money to the CFMU. I mean they've got this
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  Speaker 1: tax on everything that's being built that basically is laundering
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  Speaker 1: money through the CFMU. The price of concrete for a
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  Speaker 1: backyard barbecue project is affected by the price of concrete
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  Speaker 1: that they'll pay for a state taxpayer funded project run
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  Speaker 1: by the CFMU in the middle of the city. Nothing's
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  Speaker 1: getting built. And this is a government that has actually
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  Speaker 1: given up on planning. It is in fact unable to
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  Speaker 1: make a decision about anything anytime anywhere anymore. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a government that has run out of puff. And look,
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  Speaker 1: I come from Queensland. I'm a proud Queenslander. It distresses
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  Speaker 1: me because the planning was there. They were told this
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  Speaker 1: was what the population was going to be ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: what the population was going to be next year. They
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  Speaker 1: were told that, and yet they failed to plan and
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  Speaker 1: now he's blaming migration. Well, the simple reality is it's
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  Speaker 1: a complete failure of the government to prioritize the kind
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  Speaker 1: of infrastructure we need in our roads are one thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt there's a need for that. We've got
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics coming in twenty thirty two. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how anybody is going to get a walk around. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to walk around Brisbane, that's any way
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  Speaker 1: they can get around. And the Royal System reader was
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  Speaker 1: designed in the eighteen sixties and built in the eighteen
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  Speaker 1: seventies and no new rail line, so you know, and
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  Speaker 1: then you can throw water in the failure to plan
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  Speaker 1: properly for power. We used to have the world's cheapest
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  Speaker 1: and plentiful supply of electricity forty years ago. But this
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  Speaker 1: is a government that has been in office really for
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  Speaker 1: the last thirty five years, not just for the last
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  Speaker 1: nine or ten years, and they really have failed to
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  Speaker 1: deliver for Queensland's tomorrow. And so yes, it is an
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  Speaker 1: issue and David Chris Ofouley has got to tell us
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  Speaker 1: what he's going to do for the next generation of Queenslanders,
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  Speaker 1: not just the next election. And I think if he
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  Speaker 1: seals that he'll win this inner canna because Queenslanders want action.
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  Speaker 1: They want action.
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  Speaker 2: Queensland has won action.
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  Speaker 3: But then we saw Liberal Nationals back the Miles government's
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  Speaker 3: bold mission targets that surprise a lot of people, particularly
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  Speaker 3: at an election where cost of living is going to
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  Speaker 3: be a major concern and you basically are taking energy
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  Speaker 3: out of the equation as an ideological point, as a
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  Speaker 3: policy area where you can challenge the government.
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  Speaker 2: What is the election looking.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what's your prediction of what we're going to see?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's coming at the end of October. Who knows
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things could happen between now and then.
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  Speaker 1: But a courageous decision to back a bad policy, the
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  Speaker 1: Miles government policy on net zero. It was also another
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  Speaker 1: courageous decision to pooh pooh Peter Dutton's discussion his plan
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  Speaker 1: to talk at least about nuclear being a viable, cheap
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  Speaker 1: alternative and a carbon free alternative to renewables. And yet
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  Speaker 1: we all we know there's a long long way to
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  Speaker 1: go on all of that. So look, I think the
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  Speaker 1: State opposition is going to hear a lot from the
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  Speaker 1: grassroots members of the Liberal National Party in coming weeks
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  Speaker 1: because they're having a convention at the end of journ.
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  Speaker 1: We'll wait and see. But look, there is a lot
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  Speaker 1: to be done. This is David Chrystop foolis to lose
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  Speaker 1: and he's got to get It's sharp in people's minds
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  Speaker 1: that he will be different in the right places. He's
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  Speaker 1: talking about law and order, he's talking about cost of living,
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  Speaker 1: but your right power is a major living component, and
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of members of the party it's an
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  Speaker 1: article of faith. Dutton's on the right path and the
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  Speaker 1: state opposition's got to catch up. They've just got to
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  Speaker 1: catch up to him. I wish them well.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: It's very sir Humphrey of you to call those decisions courageous.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. Now I know you're.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: In aviation buff I'm interested in your take on this.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: This is just incredible footage.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it will go viral around the world by
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the end of the week, if it hasn't already. A
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: right aircraft that lost power mid flight, only narrowly missing
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: hitting houses in suburban Sydney before making a crash landing
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: on a runway. This is a a may Day call.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: The pilot managed to just miss trees houses.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: You can see it just got past.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: The hangar there apparently only a meter, and he had
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: pulled the wheels up because it didn't think he would
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: get past the hangars with the wheels and a perfect
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: crash landing. Both the pilot and the passenger walked away.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Just incredible footage. And let's hear now from the pilot.
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: It was lighting.
• 19:44
  Speaker 10: It wasn't a no goer.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: We clipped the peas and we just made it over
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the hangar. How close were you coming over the homes?
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: It was very close.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: We didn't think we were going to make this landing
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: strip out. It looked to me like you were about
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: three or four meters above the homes. Yeah, it was
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: very very and the hangar it look like you're about
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a meter above. That just cleared it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: Jake retracted the landing gear because he thought he would
• 20:07
  Speaker 12: hit the roofs.
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: It's why he landed the plane on its belly.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do to celebrate tonight?
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: And I think just be alone.
• 20:16
  Speaker 13: Be al.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: Just incredible.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: That is a pilot you would feel safe being in
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: charge of a.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Massive passenger plane.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I think this is an argument that's happening in the
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: US in particular about DEI policies and getting more diversity
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in the cockpit. I think that just proves you want meritocracy,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: You want the very best people to be flying the plane,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: especially if there's hundreds of passengers on board.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I stick with Quotus myself. That's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: why I flew flew with Cortus from Brisbane. The camber look, Rita.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The guy knew that you dangled the dunlops for wind
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: resistance to bring it closer to the ground. In a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: proper landing, will lift it up to get rid of
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that resistance so it could go that little bit further.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Perfect belly landing, took it off the runway, dropped it
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: on the grass. Twenty out of ten. I give him
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: twenty out of ten.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Well done, incredible, incredible, Gary Hardgrave, thank you so much.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Still to come.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Lefties Losing It featuring the Leader of the Free World
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: plus Josh Hammer joins me to explain the latest conspiracy
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: theory that's turned out.
• 21:27
  Speaker 14: To be true.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Now it's time for Lefties Losing It, and I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: it's high time we checked on the Leader of the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Free World. President Joe Biden has in recent days repeated
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: another verifiable lie, this time telling West Point graduates that
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: he was appointed to the Naval Academy.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Sadly that never actually happened.
• 21:58
  Speaker 14: I was appointed by my the fell I ran against
• 22:01
  Speaker 14: when I was twenty nine years old, to the Naval Academy.
• 22:06
  Speaker 14: I was one of ten I wanted to play football.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Of course, there's no record of any of this.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Another Biden fantasy, but I guess it's a rather small
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: eye compared to the ones he has told in recent
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: weeks about cauniballs and being arrested fighting for civil rights. Now,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: this next last is always teaching us something.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Love her work on Lefties Losing It, where she has
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: told us about the wacky world of neo pronouns. That's
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: for folks who identify as ravens or toasters or I
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: don't know, milk products.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: But today she's going.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: To teach us what non binary terms we can call
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: mum and dad, because you know, mum and dad is
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: so HETERONORMALI.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Instead of using the typical mom and dad parent titles,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: there's actually gender neutral and non binary parent titles that exists.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: It can be hard for parents within the lgbtqae plus
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: community to find a word that they feel comfortable being
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: addressed as by their children. So here are some examples.
• 23:06
  Speaker 15: Dumma, Mada, Maddie, Mardy, Mapa, Nini, Nopah, nori Opah, Pere, pomp, pom, sasa,
• 23:20
  Speaker 15: and zizi.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: You can find more examples on the website listed above
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: to the University of North Carolina.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: And we like this university. You might remember that's where.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Students staged a fight back against the anti American lunacy
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: taking over college campuses, where the frat boys gathered to.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Protect the American flag as idiot.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Protesters held abuse at them and few objects as well.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And it's a university with the board of governors last
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: week voted to repeal DEI Policies Diversity and Inclusion Policies
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and instead replace it with this saying things like ensure
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: equality of all persons and viewpoints wonderful and promote non
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: discrimination in employment practices precisely what we want to see.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: But not everyone was happy with this new policy that
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: embraces real equality and free speech. The camp has lefties
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: lost it and then got arrested for.
• 24:28
  Speaker 12: We are intimidation.
• 24:34
  Speaker 15: That is what we're here for.
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: We're here for low they are directly upholster.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't try that nonsense in North Carolina.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: Now, aren't you just thrilled that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Your taxes will be paying off the student loans of
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: fiscally irresponsible fools. You got themselves into enormous stets, often
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: for junk degrees that don't actually help them get a
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: decent job, like serve.
• 25:36
  Speaker 16: With all due respect, I mean that's so respectfully, you
• 25:38
  Speaker 16: took out over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth
• 25:40
  Speaker 16: of loans and basically learn how to cook. And I'm
• 25:43
  Speaker 16: supposed to pretend to be surprised that you can't now
• 25:45
  Speaker 16: afford to pay off these loans.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: We all deserve to have an education and to follow
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: our dreams.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: That's an American way.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: Privilege, have an education.
• 25:53
  Speaker 16: That's why we're all privileged to be American. My biggest
• 25:56
  Speaker 16: issue with student loan forgiveness is that it's a lack
• 25:58
  Speaker 16: of accountability for people's financially reckless decisions.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: Because you have these people they were they take off.
• 26:05
  Speaker 16: These wildly massive loans to get a degree, to put
• 26:09
  Speaker 16: themselves in the career path. Did they know from the
• 26:11
  Speaker 16: get go it's never going to feasibly be able to
• 26:13
  Speaker 16: pay off this amount of money.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Now, that intelligent young man on doctor phil Is Xavia Deruso,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: who might the lefty rent seekers lose it? When he
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: told them some harsh home truths.
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: I went to the University of Illinois with an academic
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: full ride. My scholarships came from putting my back into
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: my education. So why should I be responsible for paying
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: off someone else's debt?
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: What makes this debt more righteous than the small plumber
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: who took out a loan to buy a new van,
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: or the person who got a mortgage, or what makes
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: it fair to the person who paid off their debts
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: to the parent who just wrote the last check for
• 26:51
  Speaker 13: their son or daughter to go to college.
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: No one forced you to get those loans, so don't
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: force me to pay it off.
• 26:57
  Speaker 16: You can't be a part of the twelve percent of
• 26:59
  Speaker 16: people in a mayor who have student loan debt and
• 27:01
  Speaker 16: then look at the eighty eight percent of us who
• 27:03
  Speaker 16: aren't in that situation and expect us to pay off
• 27:06
  Speaker 16: the decision you made.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Race, class, gender, I'll play an important.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: Role to matt access.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: This isn't just about student loan debt.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: This is about equal access to generational wealth.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Equal access to generational wealth. That sounds like communism. No,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: thank you, that's a poisonous doctrine that has killed millions,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: tens of millions. By the way, here is some good news.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Biden's latest student loan handout could cost.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: As much as seven hundred and fifty billion. Did I
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: say good news? I didn't mean that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know why I said good I think we
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: could all do with a laugh.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Right now, here is a young man who decided he
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: was going to join a queer fat club.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Problem is, is not really fat or queer, but you
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: know he can identify as a trans fat.
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: This is a queer fat club.
• 28:00
  Speaker 17: Queer and fat.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: Okay, thank you for joining me. We're just introducing ourselves
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: at the moment. Okay, do you want to go ahead
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: and introduce yourself?
• 28:08
  Speaker 17: Joe, Yeah, my name is Joe. I go by he Day,
• 28:11
  Speaker 17: and I identify as two hundred and seventy five pounds. Okay, okay,
• 28:17
  Speaker 17: I feel like Jays kind of making fun of me,
• 28:19
  Speaker 17: though I know it's kind of a shock, I know, kind.
• 28:21
  Speaker 15: Of a new thing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: I'm do what said. I apologize.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I know you're good.
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: Are you comfortable leaving the group at the moment? Why.
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: I'm not understanding why you're joining the group.
• 28:32
  Speaker 17: This is the queer in fat group now, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 17: that's what I came here for.
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: And you said you identify as fat? Yeah, okay, this
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: is just for fat bodied people.
• 28:46
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I understand, I identify as a fat bodied person.
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: I'm not understanding where you're coming from.
• 28:51
  Speaker 17: Are you guys comfortable with me here? I mean, I'm
• 28:53
  Speaker 17: pretty chill.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: On my end.
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: I'm not comfortable.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: No, very droll work.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Now let's do more lifties losing it with mine?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Next guest, and here is US Senate Leader Chuck Schumer
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: revealing that the Democrats want more immigrants, illegal or not,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and they want them all to become citizens who can vote.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a conspiracy theory.
• 29:15
  Speaker 12: Now more than ever, we're short of workers. We have
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: a population that is not reproducing it on its own
• 29:24
  Speaker 12: with the same level that it used to. The only
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: way we're going to have a great future in America
• 29:29
  Speaker 12: is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the Dreamers, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 12: all of them, because our ultimate goal is to help
• 29:35
  Speaker 12: the Dreamers, but get a path to citizenship for all
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: eleven million or however many undocumented there.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Are here, Let's bring in senior editor at large for Newsweek,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Josh Hammer. Josh, what do you make of Chuck Schumer's comments?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: There wasn't long ago that if you suggested that the
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Democrats wanted all these legal immigrants to cross the border
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: because they eventually become Democrat voters, you were called some
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: sort of crazy conspiracy theorist.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: I mean, how many times recently in American politics do
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: we need to see yet another example of what was
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: once dismissed as a so called far right conspiracy theory
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: which has been once again been validated because of these
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: crazy times that we're living in. I mean, I see
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: clips like this read and I think back to, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: the crazy conspiracy theory that the COVID nineteen pandemic might
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: have emerged from the lab in Wuhan, China, Or that
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: crazy conspiracy theory that Hunter Biden's laptop was in fact,
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: very very real and was not just fabricated by Russian
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: intelligence assets, as fifty one US deep state spooks promptly
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: said in a statement that was issued by the FEDS
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: roughly twenty four hours after the New York Post story
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: came to line October twenty twenty. This is just the
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: latest indication in a very long and very unflattering line
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: of conspiracy theories that are no longer conspiracy theories. By
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: the way, what Chuck Schumer is saying there getting to
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: the substance of his remo. What he is saying in
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: there at the beginning of that clip we just heard
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: where he is saying that America's population is not reproducing
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: the way it used to. We're simply not having enough babies. Well,
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: empirically speaking, he happens to be right about that. America's
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: current birth rate is roughly one point six to one
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: point sixty five children per child bearing women, which is
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: well below replacement level. But how about you look at
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: that and then you do something about it. How About
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: you try to make America a better and more appealing
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: place in which to raise children. How About you try
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: to change the material incentives you try to grow the economy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: Don't just tell Americans that they're being too selfish or
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: that they're not taking enough abortion pills or something crazy
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: like that, so it's not reproducing that generation. You're identifying
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: a good problem there, chructure or this solution is not
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: just to willing really import mass third worlders who simply
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: do not share our values. The solution is to make
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: America a better place to have more children.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: We've got more Democrats embarrassing themselves is a start with
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: the elan Omer, one of the squad members here, who
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: tweeted this on Memorial Day, obviously not understanding what the
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: day is supposed to commemorate, and another squad members, Congresswoman
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Cory Bush, also tweeted.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: This, mentioning all sorts of things.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Universal health care and affordable housing. Both those tweets have
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: now been deleted Josh, because presumably someone in their staff
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: told them what Memorial Day actually means.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: Look, Leftizria have a very very long standing habit of
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: trying to universalized messages that ought to be particulous, So,
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: you know, to to give just one example, I mean,
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: I'm Jewish, and we have a very long history in
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: America of politicians, especially from the Democratic side of the Isle,
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: who take many of our Jewish holidays such as Passover,
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: which is of course about the exodus from Egypt and
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: the liberation of the Jewish people, and trying to universe
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: this message to be any kind of just kind of
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: hold our hands smoke a piece pipe Kumbaya kind of thing.
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: They try to take the passover message and they'll twist
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: it and turn it to be about the liberations of
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: LGBT rights or the liberation of the legal aliens. A
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: lot of Chuck Schumer's clip there. This to me is
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: very much in that line where you take a very
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: specific particular day. Memorial Day here in America is a
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: very solemn day. It is where we remember those who
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: give the ultimate sacrifice to defend this last great nation,
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: this last dying perhaps, but this last is still in existence,
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: gasp of freedom in Western civilization. And we and we
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: look to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, and we
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: pay our very solemn respects. To quote the Great General
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: George Patten, today on Memorial Day here in America is
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: not a day to be sad, to mourn those who die,
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: but rather to thank God that such men live. That's
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: the That's the quote from George Patten. And then to
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: take that message and to try to do a Corey
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: Push and illin Omar and these various other squad far
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: left nut jobs are doing and talking about, you know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: Black Lives Matter, Antifa, universal healthcare, Palestinian rights, I legal
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: aliens totally totally missing the forest for the trees. But
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: it's not just accidental, reader. I think that there is
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: a slight dose of intentionality here. They know what they're doing.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: They're trying to undermine America's psalm traditions and holidays in
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: favor of their very tendentious genda.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Probably, but it's interesting that this time around they deleted
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: those tweets. I think a couple of years ago they
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: may have not, but I don't know. We're in an election, Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: maybe they're a little bit more sensitive. You might remember
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: this classic from Kamala Harris a couple of years ago.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I think this was actually her first year as VAP,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: and she posted this for Mourial to have enjoyed the
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: long weekend. That really is just so poignant, isn't it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Goodness may Now, there's been a number of attax josh
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: from assailants in recent years.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It's hard not to notice.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting they're disproportionately represented in the stats. Someone
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: else can look into the figures and let me know
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: about that. But there have been several instances of men
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: identifying as women and a couple of women identifying as
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: men being behind really violent, disturbing crimes. And there was
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: another one over the weekend, and New York Post repeats
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: that the knifemen accused of stabbing six people, including three children,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: and suspected of killing another, appears to have been in
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: the process of changing their identity and they insist on
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: being called a she.
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: Look, this is once again just another data point in
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: what is a longstanding problematic trend. I mean, look, it
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: feels like it was just yesterday. Our new cycle moves
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: so quickly now that we forget that this is over
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: a year ago. Now, there was the school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee,
• 36:00
  Speaker 10: of the Covenant School, of that Christian school by a
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: former student of that school, who it turns out was
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: a transgender individual. And what this individual did was they
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: went back to that to that school and then before
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: going to shoot up and try to murder children there
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: who were just attending a school in a given day
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: in March twenty point three, first went to the church
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: that connects to the school and shot at the stained
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: glass depiction of the prophet Abraham, you know, the great
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: patriarch Abraham, the father of all three monotheistic religions. You
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: know what would compel someone who was a former Christian
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: school student who became a transgender person to shoot up
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: a stained glass depiction of the father of all of
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: Western monotheistic religion. I mean, the question kind of answers itself, right,
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: There's something very deeply psychologically troubling going on here. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: you know, I'm not a psychologist. Don't take it from me.
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: I mean, go back and look at the DSM three,
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: the DSM four. I mean, gender dysphoria up until fairly recently,
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: was a universally recognized social malady, and it was a
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: psychological matter for which the proper treatment was seen as
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: psychologists seeing a psychiatrist and ultimately getting some form of
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: advanced kind of psychological training. It was only a fairly
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: recent memory, reader, that we have decided to not just
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: bestow this an impromoter of legitimacy, but to try to
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: kind of you give it much praise and adoration and
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: all this as well. I am waiting for conservatives to
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: try to make this point articulately, because a lot of
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: people tend to kind of put out a lot of
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: fiery rhetica, fiery rhetoric without much substance or policy beef
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: behind it there. But at this point this is too
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: big of a problem to simply ignore. I mean, if
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: you are a man who thinks that you are a woman,
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: we should have compassion and we should encourage you to
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: seek help. But to pretend like this is just a
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: normal situation just to keep on going on, people are
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: ultimately going to continue to die and get wounded and
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: tragically just murdered by people just like this. I fear
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: unless we get to the bottom of what's actually going
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: on psychologically.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Now, this is interesting, Josh, Silicon Valley is turning away
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: from the Democrats. We are told I'm not sure if
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I believe this, but we have investors and venture capitalists
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: saying it's becoming impossible to support Joe Biden. What do
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: you make of this? I mean, this is something that
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: has been a very much a stronghold for the Democrats.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Silicon Valley has traditionally lent left quite strongly.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Could they come around embracing Donald Trump?
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: You know, it really does seem almost impossible. I mean,
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: of all of America's major industries, big tech in Silicon
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: Valley is, as you accurately say, by far, one of
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: the most reliable Democratic Party voting blocks. I mean, it's
• 38:46
  Speaker 10: right there, literally in northern California, which is about as
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: blue an area of America as possibly guess. I kind
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: of have to wonder here if the Elon must trend
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: on Twitter export of recalling of these days, if that
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: trend is actually kind of auguing a broader kind of
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: paradigm and shift. Now, Look, the Democratic Party is no
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: actual friend of the big tech platforms. When they actually
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: get into power, they're frequently threatening to bust them up
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: when it comes to anti trust. They're, you know, Democrats,
• 39:15
  Speaker 10: just like Republicans, are actually very critical of what in
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: America we call Section two thirty immunity, although they're critical
• 39:20
  Speaker 10: of it for very different reasons than Republicans tend to be.
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: So they're actually not particularly favorable to Democrats when they
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: get in office. Maybe between that and the fact that
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: Joe Biden himself is obviously probably senile in the extreme
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: and quite literally barely even knows what day it is
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: ending and why on any given day, you know, maybe
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: they're starting to kind of peel away towards Trump on
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: the margins here. But I really do find the Elon
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: Musk possibility here particularly fascinating if you look at kind
• 39:48
  Speaker 10: of the human fabric of Silicon Valley, you look at
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: kind of the Sergei Brains, Larry Page, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk,
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: it's actually a fairly small cabal of people who are
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: kind of the true kingpins of this industry. You're probably
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: talking here about twenty to twenty five people at the most.
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: So when someone like Elon Musk can actually take over
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: a whole platform and really put it in a very
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: different and in many ways in more positive direction, I'm
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: really wondering whether that that actually has had a serious
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: effect on how his various kind of classmates in that
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: Silicon Valley upper class, how they view their relationship to
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: American politics as well.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Elon sacked we was it eighty ninety percent of Twitter
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: now X's employees, and we were told the whole thing
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: was going to collapse, and yet it's more popular than ever.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: It seems to have more activity, more users than ever.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: And that's to me one of the most astonishing things
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: we've seen in the last couple of years, that you
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: could sack ninety percent of a workforce, a well paid workforce,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: and really have no difference in the product in the
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: user experience.
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: Look, I mean, as a conservative who is on Twitter
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: a decent amount, probably more than I should be. You know, look,
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: I mean in some ways, I mean, the free speech
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: absolutism can be a bit of a problem. So you
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: see some accounts that are viciously racist, you know, you know,
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: viciously anti Semitic, viciously anti Western that tend to get
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: boosted here. But you know, I mean that kind of
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: is just free speech playing out the way that it's
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: supposed to be, and there are some downsides of that
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: that are also a lot of upsides of that. You know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 10: I know that I am not going to get banned
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: from Twitter tomorrow, Rita for simply saying the biological truism
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: that there is male and there is female, there is
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: xx chromosomal structure, and there's x y chromosomal structure. Back
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: in the free elon must status quo anti back when
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: Jack Dorsey and the rest of the far left clown brigade,
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: back when they were running Twitter, you could literally be
• 41:49
  Speaker 10: banned for the platform for saying what I just said
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: on your show is that there are two genders. As
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: we have known throughout the entire history of humanity. And
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: it's very nice to have a social platform now where
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: you know you're not going to get just and or
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: shadow boundary Bloch Willy Nilly for saying such very common, sensible.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Things, Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: this evening. Thank you, Riader still to come. Psychologists Claire
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Row on the media's calls for under sixteens to be
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: banned from social media. But does Generation Alpha face more
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: pressing issues? Claire joins me next you're watching the Riata
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Panney Show. Joining me now is psychologist Claire Row. A
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: lot has been said recently, Claire about banning social media
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: for children under sixteen.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I've shared my thoughts on the issue.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of this agenda for a number
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: of reasons, and one of them is surely this generation,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Generation Alpha have more immediate issues than just social media
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: being on TikTok, Instagram and all that entails. And one
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: of those things is hardcore pornography, which young children are
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: being exposed to from a very young age. We know
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: from research in the UK the average age of children
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: accessing this hardcore porn is twelve years old. There's a
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: lot of them that access it earlier. What is the
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: impact on children from accessing this sort of material at
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: such a young age.
• 43:30
  Speaker 18: Yeah, thanks, Rita. And I think one of the major
• 43:33
  Speaker 18: problems here is that, as you said, is younger and younger.
• 43:37
  Speaker 18: I mean, I think there's a lot of kids who
• 43:39
  Speaker 18: are exposed to pornography way before twelve years old. I
• 43:42
  Speaker 18: think here tamy Lot has been poot borders and aborigin
• 43:45
  Speaker 18: a lot of countries. So you know, it's not about
• 43:47
  Speaker 18: hiding the Playboy magazine under the bed anymore. And as
• 43:50
  Speaker 18: you can imagine, you know, all devices are Internet enabled,
• 43:54
  Speaker 18: so at the click of fingertips, you know, children can
• 43:58
  Speaker 18: access this. And I think I think this goes really
• 44:01
  Speaker 18: to the heart. You know, if we're going to have
• 44:02
  Speaker 18: that discussion on social media in general, it really is
• 44:06
  Speaker 18: the Internet. It's not social media. It's about the world
• 44:10
  Speaker 18: being brought into our children's bedrooms. And you know, for
• 44:14
  Speaker 18: you and I growing up, if we'd doubt our parents something,
• 44:17
  Speaker 18: they would have said, well, i'll tell you when you're older.
• 44:20
  Speaker 18: These days, a child will look back at you and say, oh,
• 44:22
  Speaker 18: that's okay, I'll google it. I'll I'll google image it,
• 44:25
  Speaker 18: and you think, oh my goodness. You know, so parents
• 44:28
  Speaker 18: are forced into conversations earlier and earlier. And you know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 18: as has been said in recent times, we underprotect our
• 44:35
  Speaker 18: children in the real world, you know, but we over
• 44:39
  Speaker 18: so we overprotect them in the real world, I should say,
• 44:42
  Speaker 18: but we underprotect them online. And it's about the entirety
• 44:47
  Speaker 18: of you know, the world being brought into their bedrooms.
• 44:50
  Speaker 18: And I think for people who don't really understand the
• 44:52
  Speaker 18: impacts of pornography, very clear the research that it's not
• 44:56
  Speaker 18: just linking behaviors towards risky sexual behaviors, which it does.
• 45:03
  Speaker 18: It actually has really clear links in aggression, violence, poor
• 45:07
  Speaker 18: academic results, poor socialization, poor friendship, and definitely very poor
• 45:13
  Speaker 18: mental health. But it's some more wide reaching than just
• 45:18
  Speaker 18: saying that if you watch pornography you're going to be
• 45:21
  Speaker 18: kind of sexually promiscuous. It's the damage of the far
• 45:25
  Speaker 18: more maps and for the young children stumbling across this material,
• 45:29
  Speaker 18: as you can imagine, I mean, it's very aggressive, violent material.
• 45:32
  Speaker 18: Some of it, it's very confronting and traumatizing. You can
• 45:37
  Speaker 18: imagine for an eight year old is stumbled onto some
• 45:39
  Speaker 18: of those fites.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, it has a powerful impact, often a very
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: powerfully negative impact on young adults, so you can only
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: imagine young children who really don't comprehend precisely what it
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: is they're seeing. Now, I want to ask you about
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: the federal budget expanded mental health funding that was applauded
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: by many, but there's very little extra money being put
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: towards the care for the most severely mentally ill people
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: in Australia, those for example, who were suffering from severe schizophrenia.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: The Albaneza government, it was very heavily criticized by former
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: chair of the Mental Health Australia Board Matt Berryman, who
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: said the PM had refused to meet during his first
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: two years in office. We are spending a great deal
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: of money on mental health, Claire, but is the money
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: not going where it's most desperately needed.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 46:40
  Speaker 18: I think mental health is the only sector where the
• 46:42
  Speaker 18: more money we spend, the worse it gets, you know.
• 46:46
  Speaker 18: I mean, if we were going to put this amount
• 46:47
  Speaker 18: of money into something like cancer research, we'd want to
• 46:50
  Speaker 18: be looking at the results that you know, cancer was
• 46:53
  Speaker 18: coming down, or there was some type of less diagnoses
• 46:57
  Speaker 18: were coming down. But mental health seems to be the
• 46:59
  Speaker 18: only area where not only do we pile more money
• 47:02
  Speaker 18: into it, but the rates of mental health diagnoses keep
• 47:06
  Speaker 18: going up, and then the circular argument is when we
• 47:09
  Speaker 18: need more funding. So one of the issues I have
• 47:13
  Speaker 18: is that the government has said said they're going to
• 47:15
  Speaker 18: commit to something like five hundred and eighty million dollars
• 47:20
  Speaker 18: to come up with some type of online platform where
• 47:24
  Speaker 18: all these can call up for some telehealth, some very
• 47:29
  Speaker 18: low intensity it calls it. You know, we're not talking
• 47:31
  Speaker 18: about clinical depression, we're talking about catching people early.
• 47:36
  Speaker 16: Now.
• 47:37
  Speaker 18: It sounds lovely, it's all well and good, and there's
• 47:39
  Speaker 18: a lot of research that shows the benefit of early intervention, obviously,
• 47:44
  Speaker 18: but we do already have that. There's millions of dollars
• 47:48
  Speaker 18: poured into things like the Black Dog Institute, Headspace, you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 18: mental health education through schools. There is a lot of
• 47:56
  Speaker 18: money there, and it's good to spend money. I'm worried
• 48:00
  Speaker 18: that if you actually are more up with severe end
• 48:03
  Speaker 18: and you may be having you know, ivepad clients with
• 48:06
  Speaker 18: suicidal tendencies, with people with severe psychiatric illnesses, there are
• 48:12
  Speaker 18: very few places for them to go to unless they're
• 48:14
  Speaker 18: run to salk out for the private system. The number
• 48:17
  Speaker 18: of hospital beds I'm concerned about more in mental health warms,
• 48:21
  Speaker 18: and I get that we can't just be reactionary and
• 48:24
  Speaker 18: we can't just spend money there, but I do feel like, gosh,
• 48:28
  Speaker 18: you know, nearly six hundred million dollars to create some
• 48:32
  Speaker 18: very vague, no details at the moment platform where you're
• 48:35
  Speaker 18: going to call up because you're not feeling that great
• 48:38
  Speaker 18: that day and you're going to get some kind of
• 48:40
  Speaker 18: free counseling. Yet I've got pretty you know, severe clients
• 48:45
  Speaker 18: and bad states where they need more than my support
• 48:48
  Speaker 18: and the private sector can offer. And I call around
• 48:51
  Speaker 18: trying to get some inpatient support through a hospital system
• 48:54
  Speaker 18: and it's not available, and I'm worried about that end
• 48:58
  Speaker 18: of the system.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Well, you're working at the cold Face Clairo. Thank you
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: so much for your insights tonight. Do you appreciate it?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: And that's it from me. Up next is Newsnight. I'll
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: see you at eleven tomorrow. Good night,