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Football at Four: Delving Into Eagles Offense and Plan at EDGE Going Forward · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Football at four.
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  Speaker 2: The finding solutions during this mini buy.
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  Speaker 3: Did that result in the decision to change offensive play
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  Speaker 3: calling in any way?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: That was next Siriannie today asked if they are they
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  Speaker 4: were going to make a change in the play caller.
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  Speaker 4: He did not seem to like that question all that much.
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  Speaker 4: Was it a fair question? Let's bring Jeff mocher in.
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  Speaker 4: at Ocean Casino Resort in Atlantic City. You know, McClain
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  Speaker 4: did tweet later on that the context of the question
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  Speaker 4: was Jeff that they did change play callers during the
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  Speaker 4: mini bye week in twenty twenty one. Did you think
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  Speaker 4: that was a Is that a fair question to wonder
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  Speaker 4: if the Eagles need a change at the play caller position.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you could debate it on both sides.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that that question is going to
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  Speaker 3: be asked regardless because of Eagles not looking good offensively,
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  Speaker 3: not playing a full four quarters offensively through six weeks
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  Speaker 3: of the season, and you know the context of the
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  Speaker 3: cord of the play caller change he's made before it
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  Speaker 3: a little later in the season, and they kind of
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  Speaker 3: had a guy in Matt Patricia that they brought in
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  Speaker 3: almost I don't want to say for that reason, but
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  Speaker 3: in case they needed it, felt they needed to make
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  Speaker 3: a change. Is there's there's no there's no senior offensive
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  Speaker 3: advisor here that you're gonna hand play calling to. It's
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  Speaker 3: either gonna be Kevin Batulo or Nick Sirianni's gonna do
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  Speaker 3: it himself. And I don't think Nick sirian is gonna
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  Speaker 3: do it himself. So I think that they're more just
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  Speaker 3: likely to figure it out. And if it doesn't work
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  Speaker 3: after the year, who knows. But that's why it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you, like if they don't, if this
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  Speaker 4: doesn't work, they're gonna figure it out again. Like where
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  Speaker 4: is this trending that you just constantly keep changing the coordinator?
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  Speaker 1: Like at some point you would think that that has
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  Speaker 1: to stop. Like, and I get it.
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  Speaker 4: If you get a guy who's really good and he
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  Speaker 4: gets hired, there's nothing you can do about that. But
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  Speaker 4: you want to try to find your vic Fangil, your
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  Speaker 4: guy who's okay with being the coordinator and saying, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, I've.
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  Speaker 1: Been the head coach, I've been that guy.
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  Speaker 4: This is my new gig now and I'm here for
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  Speaker 4: the long Like it feels like that's the direction.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they should have looked at No.
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  Speaker 2: I don't agree.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like a people have. I mean, I wrote
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  Speaker 3: this too on Saturday on Philly Voyce. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if people under realize this, but the Eagles have scored
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  Speaker 3: more points through six weeks this year than they did
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  Speaker 3: last year. I think everybody needs to remember what they
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  Speaker 3: felt about Kellen Moore last year through six weeks, when they.
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  Speaker 2: Had scored fifteen points against No.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty points against Atlanta and the loss fifteen points against
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  Speaker 3: New Orleans in a win twenty points against the Browns,
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  Speaker 3: and then the week after against the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't much better. I don't have in front of me,
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  Speaker 2: but they were not an offensive jugg or not.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, Kellen Moore was trying, to your point, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, as an experienced play caller, was trying to
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  Speaker 3: bring elements of his offense to the Eagle offense. But
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  Speaker 3: then eventually it started looking more just like the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: offense of the last three or four years, except he
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  Speaker 3: had something that his predecessor and now Kevin Patulo don't have,
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  Speaker 3: which was a really strong running game, which is, let's
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  Speaker 3: be fair, the offensive coordinator doesn't design and the play
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  Speaker 3: caller doesn't design the runs. So I think that it's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit too much as falling on Kevin Batulo,
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  Speaker 3: and if you change the play caller again at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the year, what the Eagles are sending the messages,
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  Speaker 3: which I think is unfair, is that a first year
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  Speaker 3: play caller cannot succeed or is not a good option
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  Speaker 3: when they're If you look across the league, there are
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  Speaker 3: plenty of good first year play callers, and there are
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  Speaker 3: plenty of dhreads who do a bad job, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think there's a specific formula.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the Eagles are missing what they've.
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  Speaker 3: Had last year, which is a really strong offensive line
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  Speaker 3: play and a strong running game to compensate for what
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  Speaker 3: they've had for many years, which is a up and
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  Speaker 3: down offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I.
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  Speaker 4: Agree with what you're saying in terms of there's no formula.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just talking about maybe for some stability, there is
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  Speaker 4: to finally at somebody who says I'm gonna be the
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  Speaker 4: guy for the next three to five years, and that
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  Speaker 4: you can grow an offense. This formula of hiring a
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  Speaker 4: guy he leaves, hiring a guy replacing him, hiring a
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  Speaker 4: guy he leaves. I mean, it is hard to overcome that.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying. You better hope they don't
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  Speaker 4: fire for Toolo, because that means you gotta hire another
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  Speaker 4: new guy. And then we're going around the hamster wheel
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  Speaker 4: again of what's this offensive guy ever called play? That's
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  Speaker 4: why it's like, hey, is there a veteran offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 4: who's okay with being an offensive coordinator? I don't know
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  Speaker 4: that that guy exists. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: Just throwing you know, think it out loud, look.
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  Speaker 2: At the hiring cycle.
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  Speaker 3: And I wrote this, you know, sometimes you're only as
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  Speaker 3: good as what's available. And I thought Mick Sirianni had
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  Speaker 3: caught a break last year in the offseason when the
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  Speaker 3: Chargers cleared house and a guy like Kellen Moore became available.
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  Speaker 2: Who was available this year that Eagles fans would have
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  Speaker 2: really like, Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson and Press Taylor. No, probably not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: How about Chip Kelly, he got an offensive job, corda job? Nope,
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  Speaker 3: probably not a good fit for Philadelphia. So then you
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  Speaker 3: go around and look and like, who would have been
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  Speaker 3: that guy that you know got fired or was open
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  Speaker 3: for a job.
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe John d Filippo. He's a friend of
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  Speaker 2: inside the Birds.
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  Speaker 3: I would vouch for him every time, but you know
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  Speaker 3: he was already with the team Woods. It's hard, like
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  Speaker 3: you the reason why you have good coaching staffs right
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  Speaker 3: and good coaches coming up is that you want to
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  Speaker 3: be able to prepare them for that moment when.
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  Speaker 2: They can become your play caller.
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  Speaker 3: Vic Fangielin is gonna be around forever, and if he retires,
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  Speaker 3: you would love a guy like either Clint Hurt or
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  Speaker 3: Christian Parker who's been with the system and come up
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  Speaker 3: through to then become the play caller and not have
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  Speaker 3: to go out there and hire someone who happened to
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  Speaker 3: become available a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like it's just to me, like the way
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  Speaker 2: you develop players, you need to be developing coaches and
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  Speaker 2: you can't just give him six weeks before five.
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  Speaker 4: I know this wouldn't happen, but Brian Callahan just got
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  Speaker 4: fired as the head coach. He was the offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 4: in Cincinnati with two pretty good wide receivers.
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  Speaker 1: That would be interesting, wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, not in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: But let's be honest, they don't have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: talent in Tennessee. His results were pretty good in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 4: And there's so many times where we have these conversations
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  Speaker 4: when the team struggles and we always seem to say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, well you have Brown and you have Smith,
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  Speaker 4: and we always say, well, they got Chasing Higgins and
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  Speaker 4: they don't seem to struggle in the past game. You know,
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  Speaker 4: with a guy like that who is saying, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 4: I know how to design a pass game for two
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  Speaker 4: good wide receivers. Would it behoove you to jump on
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  Speaker 4: a guy who's available at a time you didn't think
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  Speaker 4: he would be available.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying make him the.
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  Speaker 4: Offensive coordinator, just saying that, you know, hey, maybe you
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  Speaker 4: need some ideas in this offense because it's obvious, not
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  Speaker 4: just from what we're watching too. Jimoke's watching tape and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about Lane Johnson, your biggest veteran, most respected player.
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  Speaker 4: When he comes out and says, this is a predictable offense.
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  Speaker 1: We know the pass. The offense has been predictable.
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  Speaker 4: Would it be crazy to say, let's bring in a
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  Speaker 4: guy who maybe has had six in a pass game
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  Speaker 4: with an offense someplace else.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's not crazy for after the
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  Speaker 3: year and when you need to reevaluate. I just you know,
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  Speaker 3: you don't bring Brian Callahan now to neuter Kevin Batrullo.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, Zach Taylor is the Bengals play
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  Speaker 3: caller and I believe he always has been. So if
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  Speaker 3: you're bringing in Brian Callahan to call plays, the only
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  Speaker 3: time I know the call players have been the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not suggesting to call the plays.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying to maybe add some life creativity your
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  Speaker 4: pass offense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that again.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you go back to last year, you
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  Speaker 3: just got to get Vic Fangio must have been a
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  Speaker 3: terrible coordinator for the first four weeks last year because
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  Speaker 3: he was were getting carved up in some of those
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  Speaker 3: games like Swiss Cheese, right, I mean, they looked embarrassing
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  Speaker 3: against the Bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on with Vic Fangio's defense last week where
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  Speaker 4: they look like they got their whole heart and salt
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  Speaker 4: ripped out of their chest by the New York Giants.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, people are gonna want to watch Inside the
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  Speaker 3: tape come this week with Greg Cosel on Inside the
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  Speaker 3: Birds because he is gonna break down that defensive tape.
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  Speaker 3: And I can tell you when you're giving up completions
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  Speaker 3: to guys like little Jordan Humphrey, who is elevated from
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  Speaker 3: the practice squad, Wandale Robinson who's a real just a
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  Speaker 3: slot receiver, but you know, wound up having a seventeen
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  Speaker 3: yard er, a twenty five yarder, thirty four yarder. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the obvious circle you draw around ringo and then the
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  Speaker 3: dri Jackson had to get in there.
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  Speaker 2: But I just thought in general.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles were not strong at the point of attack.
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  Speaker 3: The tape showed that they give up too much in
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  Speaker 3: the run game, and that's surprising.
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  Speaker 2: I know they didn't have Jillen Carter. I know that,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Quinnon Mitchell.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure that's as much of an excuse though,
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  Speaker 3: to look as poorly as they did in all facets
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  Speaker 3: of defense.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Boscher from the Inside of the Birds podcast, It
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  Speaker 4: is Football at four powered by the Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 4: podcast that we're looking at this Eagles team getting ready
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  Speaker 4: for the Minnesota Vikings. Darius Smith announces that he is
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  Speaker 4: retiring today. This comes out of right field. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 4: do you make of him just making this announcement here?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, do you look at is there a layer
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  Speaker 4: here or is this just like you know what? My
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  Speaker 4: heart I thought was in it because he did say
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  Speaker 4: I got a lot of football left in me when
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  Speaker 4: he signed here, and now all of a sudden he
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  Speaker 4: has no football left in him. He ends up retiring
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  Speaker 4: number one? Why do you think that was? And number two?
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  Speaker 4: What does that leave the Eagles with at that position?
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  Speaker 4: Because he was their best pass rusher to date.
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  Speaker 2: That's the shocking thing, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it would be one thing if he was
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  Speaker 3: playing and he felt like I just can't.
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  Speaker 2: Do it anymore.
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  Speaker 3: But he was there, probably their most consistent pass rusher
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  Speaker 3: since he joined the team. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 3: little odd, and I don't know if if this is
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  Speaker 3: behind anything. I thought it was a little odd that
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  Speaker 3: Ojilari started opposite Hunt against the violence and not.
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  Speaker 2: Is Darius Smith. But you know, the snap count wasn't
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  Speaker 2: all that out of whack.
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised, you know, I know he's thirty three, right,
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  Speaker 3: So maybe just the body didn't feel it anymore and
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  Speaker 3: didn't feel like going through the riggers of the.
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  Speaker 2: Day to day anymore.
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  Speaker 3: But it certainly leaves Eagles in dire straits at a
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  Speaker 3: position that they weren't getting great production at to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: So now you have Jaelex Hunt, now you have Ojelari,
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  Speaker 3: who is inactive for the first four weeks of the season,
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  Speaker 3: having to play a bigger role. You gotta wait for
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  Speaker 3: Nolan Smith to come off I our sometime in November.
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  Speaker 3: So really you're just rolling with Hunt, Oji, josh Ucha,
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  Speaker 3: who's been okay. All these guys have been okay. They're
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  Speaker 3: not playing badly. I think people are a little bit
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  Speaker 3: underestimating the Eagles edge rush. It hasn't been great, but
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been bad, and you know, but it's it's certainly
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  Speaker 3: not deep and now it's thinner.
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  Speaker 2: Uh until Nolan Smith comes back.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta imagine Howie Roseman will be scouring again the
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  Speaker 3: trade market. But you know, you know, it's it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to go out there and trade for like an elite
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  Speaker 3: edge rusher. If anything, You're you're hoping to get a
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  Speaker 3: good player, but you might just get a player who's
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  Speaker 3: on the same level as Oji.
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  Speaker 4: Uce right, Yeah, exactly, but essentially what you already have
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  Speaker 4: and you're hoping to get more front Do you think
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  Speaker 4: that they are disappointed by what they've gotten so far
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  Speaker 4: from Jaylex Hunt?
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  Speaker 3: No, only because I know Vic Fangio has said that
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of learning there to be done, and
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  Speaker 3: he's a second year player, and you know, it's easy
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  Speaker 3: to flash for a couple of weeks. And last year
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  Speaker 3: he flashed at the right time in the playoffs the
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  Speaker 3: super Bowl, but he was also surrounded by Josh Sweat
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  Speaker 3: and Milton Williams. That's that's the biggest difference I think
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  Speaker 3: in this defensive front is that while everybody's playing fine,
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  Speaker 3: there's nobody who you.
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  Speaker 2: Can look at and say, this guy's hurting the team.
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  Speaker 3: They just don't have two guys who are just killing
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  Speaker 3: it on a weekly basis the way Sweat and Milton
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  Speaker 3: Williams did last year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then of course it doesn't help that you'd
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  Speaker 4: have Jalen Carter the other night, and you wonder, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he just hasn't been nearly as impactful so far this
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  Speaker 4: season for whatever reasons. I mean, he gets thrown out
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  Speaker 4: of the first game, but he certainly doesn't look like
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  Speaker 4: he has been as destruptive as an interior guy.
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  Speaker 3: It's true, he's only played four of the six games
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  Speaker 3: and he's battled that shoulder that we've all seen him
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  Speaker 3: kind of like grimacing out of times on the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: And then that's a heel, which is always a tough
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  Speaker 3: injury for a three hundred pound guy. When he played
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  Speaker 3: against the Broncos, surprisingly in pass protection, they did not
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  Speaker 3: double team him. They slid toward brow Jomo, so they
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  Speaker 3: felt like that they could single block him. There are
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  Speaker 3: times he's been struggling to get through double teams.
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  Speaker 2: And again, this is making it sound like he's having
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  Speaker 2: a bad year.
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  Speaker 1: He's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not having the same year an impact and
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  Speaker 3: effect on a snap to snap basis that he had
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  Speaker 3: last year and they need to get that back. But
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  Speaker 3: kind of like what we're saying with Landon Dickerson and
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  Speaker 3: kind of like what we're saying with Kim Jurgens, you know,
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  Speaker 3: post surgery at all, can he get to that level
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  Speaker 3: if he's going to be banged up all year, that's
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  Speaker 3: the question.
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  Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent. And then of course you talk
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  Speaker 4: about banged up. You had Quinnon Mitchell and that's a hamstring,
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  Speaker 4: and that word and hamstring and corner going together doesn't
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  Speaker 4: sound good. I mean, it's peer that we're not going
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  Speaker 4: to get any news on him for this week, but
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  Speaker 4: seems like a stretch to think he's going to be
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  Speaker 4: back out there after he wasn't able to get back
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  Speaker 4: on the field on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Night, Right, maybe we'll have to see Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: Just because he didn't come back in the game Thursday
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  Speaker 3: night doesn't to me signal that he's definitely a hurt
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  Speaker 3: worse than it is. I would say probably ninety nine
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  Speaker 3: point five percent of the time when a cornerback leaves
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  Speaker 3: a game with any kind of hamstring, whether it's a
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  Speaker 3: tweak or a.
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  Speaker 2: More major pull, they always they say questionable.
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  Speaker 3: But you know a guy is not coming back into
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  Speaker 3: the game when he plays that position and has a
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  Speaker 3: hamstring injury, because that's one of those injuries that even
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  Speaker 3: if you just minorly tweak it, you can make it
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  Speaker 3: worse immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Right, It's not like a play through the pain type
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  Speaker 2: of injury.
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  Speaker 3: So there was he could have just stubbed the toe
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  Speaker 3: and he probably wasn't going to come back in that
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  Speaker 3: game because.
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  Speaker 1: Elic Well and that.
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  Speaker 4: But you know he went out and it really got bad.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you're going with a Dory Jackson, Kaylee Ringo.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it was it was bad, and then you
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  Speaker 4: want to ask to wonder how much longer you can
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  Speaker 4: go with Kaylee Ringo and a Dori Jackson as the
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  Speaker 4: other guy.
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  Speaker 2: So Adam and I talked about this.
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  Speaker 3: Adam Apple and I on inside the Birds that came
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  Speaker 3: out this morning and listen.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, it's on the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: To put the players in the best position to succeed,
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  Speaker 3: and sometimes that means coming out of your comfort zone
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  Speaker 3: for the betterment of the defense. I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: would be a detriment as much to this defense.
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  Speaker 4: If you, oh, you left this hanging there. We lost Mosher.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see, I think he's coming back here. We'll see
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  Speaker 4: in just a second here, So wouldn't be a detriment
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  Speaker 4: if and uh, I don't see there he is.
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  Speaker 1: We lost you.
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  Speaker 4: You left us hanging there for a second. You said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it would be a detriment if and
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: then we lost you.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: I think I might have lost you because I didn't hear.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: If you can hear me. Just nod, Yes you can.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, did you get my point about playing Cooper to
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Gen on the outside.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's what I was trying to say.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: I think that it makes sense to play Cooper to
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Gen on the outside, find a better option at the nickel.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I know mccoobah has.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Not played great there, but he has that experience, or
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Parry Nickerson has is a rare practice squad guy who's
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: actually played quite a bit of nickel in the NFL before,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: so he may be it may be your better option
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: to go that way and then move Cooper to Gen outside.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: All right, that's Jeff might be muted, Mike, See if
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: you can unmute because I can't hear you now.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: All right, Jeff Mosher from the Inside the Birds podcast,
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: and of course you can check him out on all
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: podcasting platforms, Phillyvoice dot com and right here for football
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: at four on the Sports Bash.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: All right, most thanks buddy.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: All right, my friend, have a good one.