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July 2, 2026 (Hour 1) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 6: Yes?
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Speaker 8: Okay, So there's there's a first thing. It's it's a
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Speaker 8: out of trouble with the government. It's easily the most
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Speaker 8: upbeat song from the best musical of the nineteen eighties
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Speaker 8: music outweighs dialogue by a four to one measure, then
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Speaker 8: the stigma that you know, it's the last song we
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Speaker 8: hear before the tragic death of a followed. Yes, but
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Speaker 7: Drop spoiler, spoiler if you haven't seen their money, yeah,
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Speaker 7: chip Ower. Sports Talk Thursday afternoon. It is hot outside.
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Speaker 7: Jason and Jared here today, not just Jared on a
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Speaker 7: wonderful Thursday afternoon. Jason carnw Is, Jared Hicks. We've got
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Speaker 7: so much going on, so much dropped yesterday afternoon, so
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Speaker 7: much still going on sports wise.
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Speaker 6: You have brought in a special guest with us today.
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Speaker 8: I did because if we're gonna talk, if we're gonna
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Speaker 8: talk soccer intelligently, we need to have someone who knows
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Speaker 8: soccer intelligently. So our special guest today we're going three
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Speaker 8: wide and today's special guests. Special guest host set the
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Speaker 8: NCAA not only men's and women's soccer record for career
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Speaker 8: solo shutouts with sixty eight. She also holds the single
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Speaker 8: season shutout record with twenty four.
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Speaker 9: Maybe twenty twenty three, Okay, I was gonna say twenty
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Speaker 9: two to twenty four, twenty three go in the middle.
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Speaker 8: She led Massiah College to the A Division three national
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Speaker 8: championship as a freshman in twenty twelve, while helping her
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Speaker 8: team to three conference championships, four postseason appearances and reaching
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Speaker 8: the Final four in her senior season. She wrapped up
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Speaker 8: her career with an eighty eight four and eight record
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Speaker 8: end goal with a remarkable point two four goal against
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Speaker 8: average and one hundred and fifty eight saves and one
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Speaker 8: hundred matches, while setting a program record with eight hundred
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Speaker 8: and eighty seven point two to three minutes played in
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Speaker 8: goal is one of She is one of just seven
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Speaker 8: players in program history to play in one hundred career
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Speaker 8: matches and the only goalkeeper to do it. She has
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Speaker 8: coached at Cumberland University, the University of Arkansas, Little Rock,
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Speaker 8: and at ut RGV Brass Valley and our seventy four listeners,
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Speaker 8: please welcome Audre Larson.
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Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you. I'm really excited to be here today.
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Speaker 8: And not only does she have experienced soccer, but she
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Speaker 8: is from Pennsylvania. I am yes, and so while she
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Speaker 8: does not necessarily have an affiliation with a certain basketball
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Speaker 8: team that is also in that state, she does have
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Speaker 8: thoughts on the subject. So it is very serendipitous that
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Speaker 8: she is here today. To also talk about the only
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Speaker 8: news story that could have usurped the United States winning
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Speaker 8: last night.
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Speaker 7: And it was like it obviously, and we are going
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Speaker 7: to get into World Cup soccer. We're gonna be able
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Speaker 7: to do that and dive deep into that the match yesterday.
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Speaker 7: But you sent me this information while I was at
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Speaker 7: the Chamber of Softball Classic, and I my jaw dropped
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Speaker 7: because I have no earthly idea other than I heard
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Speaker 7: them talking this morning and get up about Boston. Just
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Speaker 7: had to understand that Jalen Brown was not going to
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Speaker 7: go back to being number two on that team, and
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Speaker 7: it was going to cause way too much drama, way
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Speaker 7: too many issues.
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Speaker 6: And they knew that even.
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Speaker 7: If they extended them, which it didn't feel like they
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Speaker 7: wanted to do anyway, that was just going to be
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Speaker 7: too much mess for them to want to deal with
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Speaker 7: because what they got back isn't enough.
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Speaker 8: So let's just start with this, and I'm gonna post
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Speaker 8: this question to both of you. If a team called
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Speaker 8: up Philly prior to yesterday, okay, and said we'll take
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Speaker 8: Paul George in that contract, but we're not giving you
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Speaker 8: anything in return, does Philly do it?
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Speaker 6: If there was a way in NBA terms to be
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Speaker 6: able to do it.
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Speaker 8: But I'm just talking in the abstract.
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Speaker 9: I mean, I think ultimately, right, I'm still kind of
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Speaker 9: mind blown because it's like, why, what is the big
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Speaker 9: reason behind that? Obviously we don't know what goes on
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Speaker 9: behind closed doors?
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Speaker 10: Right? Is there cultural issues going on? Is that you know?
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Speaker 10: You don't know?
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Speaker 9: Right, obviously we only see what we see, like looking
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Speaker 9: at these contracts and how much these guys are on.
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Speaker 9: But it is a it's you know, I'm pretty dumbfounded
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Speaker 9: about the situation ultimately.
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Speaker 8: I mean, this is this is what gets me. And
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Speaker 8: of course Seawan's is and he's on the TV right
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Speaker 8: now because he's probably been the busiest man for the
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Speaker 8: past forty eight hours. And then Brian Windhors put this
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Speaker 8: out that apparently the initial offer that Boston put forth
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Speaker 8: to Philly was it was five number ones, and it
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Speaker 8: was oh help me, my god, damn it.
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Speaker 6: I didn't see the original.
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Speaker 8: God, we were talking about him yesterday. Now I'm totally
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Speaker 8: blanking on his name. It was not Paul George. And
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Speaker 8: how do you go from that to Paul George? Two
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Speaker 8: number ones and when you look at them, they're not
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Speaker 8: great number one, So the one's basically a swap and
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Speaker 8: the other ones a couple of years down the road,
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Speaker 8: and then two number two's and then that's there's that
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Speaker 8: part of it. The other part of this is there
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Speaker 8: was there was no rush for this, Like Brown's contracts
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Speaker 8: not up anytime.
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Speaker 7: Soon, no two years left on it before you got extended.
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Speaker 7: But he's just eligible for it now.
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Speaker 8: He's eligible for it. But like, what was the rush
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Speaker 8: to do this this immediate and in the fact of
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Speaker 8: the fact of the matter is you have now done
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Speaker 8: a Luka Doncic horrible style trade in the context of
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Speaker 8: what you got for what you sent away.
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Speaker 7: And that's why for me it goes back to Boston.
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Speaker 7: There's got to be something in that locker room that
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Speaker 7: just has not come out yet to where they knew
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Speaker 7: they had to get rid of him, because what else Again,
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Speaker 7: as you're talking about the numbers of this trade and
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Speaker 7: what they are getting back versus what they gave up
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Speaker 7: getting Paul George back, Paul George hasn't been anything probably
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Speaker 7: in the last five to six years of substance. And
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Speaker 7: so I don't understand other than whether it is Jason
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Speaker 7: Tatum saying you got to get rid of him, or
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Speaker 7: Jalen Brown saying you've got to get rid of me
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Speaker 7: because this year we are not going to get along.
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Speaker 7: I don't there there is no other viable explanation in my.
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Speaker 8: Opinion, and I mean I totally, I totally get that.
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Speaker 8: I'm just going by and because you just saw it
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Speaker 8: with Milwaukee before the trade deadline, Yannis is making it
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Speaker 8: clear he wants to get out m Milwaukee has kind
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Speaker 8: of in their mind what they're willing to accept to
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Speaker 8: go ahead and trade Yannis at the drade deadline. No
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Speaker 8: one has a package that's attractive, though, so they say
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Speaker 8: we're gonna wait, and it pays off as you get
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Speaker 8: to the end of the season, you get just before
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Speaker 8: the draft. And of course all of this is what
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Speaker 8: precipitates why we were talking about Jaylen Brown right now,
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Speaker 8: because the whole reason Miami had to make the trade
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Speaker 8: that hurt giving up the four number one draft picks
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Speaker 8: in addition to basically all of their shooters, was because
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Speaker 8: you could not let Boston win this trade, and Jalen
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Speaker 8: Brown was going to be part of the winning package.
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Speaker 8: By doing that, now you created that awkwardness in Boston.
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Speaker 8: So now Boston has to do something, But did they
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Speaker 8: really have to do it now as opposed to potentially
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Speaker 8: waiting and seeing if could you get some better offers.
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Speaker 8: And more to the point, you made you know, you
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Speaker 8: helped out your competition.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I mean you not just the same conference, in
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Speaker 7: the same division. You play more than any other team.
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Speaker 8: And now Jalen Brown's going to be gardon Jason Tatam
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Speaker 8: which oh, by the way, I'm pretty sure he's been
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Speaker 8: doing that in practice for a number of years. I mean,
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Speaker 8: that's what of all the teams that you could have
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Speaker 8: made this deal with Philly, Just it boggles the hot
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Speaker 8: like you say, I mean, it really takes it takes
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Speaker 8: you back to to what was the rationale in Brad
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Speaker 8: Stevens mind other than the fact. And then that's the thing.
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Speaker 8: Brad's evens is not dumb.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 6: Uh, one of the best gms there is.
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Speaker 8: One of the best gms there is. Kind of saw
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Speaker 8: the change in the league that was coming. That's why
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Speaker 8: he developed the team the way he did. But you know,
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Speaker 8: when you look at so when you look at this fact,
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Speaker 8: Michale Bridges, uh, he gets traded for five first round
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Speaker 8: draft picks Desmond Bane for four first round draft picks,
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Speaker 8: Rudy Gobert for five. We just mentioned Giannis obviously has
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Speaker 8: to you know, he's the prize pick. He goes goes
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Speaker 8: for four, I mean two two.
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Speaker 7: Here's the thing, and you can go back and look
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Speaker 7: at the Luka Danchets trade. They were not going the
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Speaker 7: Dallas Mavericks and that new ownership group was not going
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Speaker 7: to give him a max contract. And so the GM
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Speaker 7: and I'm drawing a blank on his name, was basically
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Speaker 7: given orders to get rid of him for what they
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Speaker 7: can get.
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Speaker 6: And if.
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Speaker 7: If Davis was even remotely healthy at any point in time,
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Speaker 7: that that isn't necessarily the worst trade. But they never
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Speaker 7: get Davis on the court now, and so that's why
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Speaker 7: that's bad. So that's why I'm going back to. There
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Speaker 7: is something that has been said in that building and
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Speaker 7: in that locker room between Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown
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Speaker 7: that said that we are not going to be able
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Speaker 7: to play together anymore.
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Speaker 9: But what's the appeal of Paul George None, there's no appeal, right,
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Speaker 9: what i'mage just sixteen points a game, all right? You
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Speaker 9: know it was just talking to you about this, Jared,
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Speaker 9: But you know he's claimed having some mental health problems.
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Speaker 9: You know, he spailed that drug test back in January
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Speaker 9: suspended while like twenty five games. You know, you almost
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Speaker 9: have culturally somebody's walking into your program that might be
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Speaker 9: a problem. Right, So what's the appeal?
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Speaker 8: I can't other than the fact that in the NBA
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Speaker 8: you try to make the you try to make the
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Speaker 8: contracts equal. And so with Jaylen the thing is with
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Speaker 8: Paul George, he's thirty six years old and you're only
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Speaker 8: taking a year off of the length of a contract,
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Speaker 8: but it's a max contract. Yes, with Jalen Brown. That's
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Speaker 8: kind of the interesting thing about what Boston is saying
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Speaker 8: with this trade. They're saying, this is a bad contract,
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Speaker 8: Jalen Brown's contract. This is bad because we want to
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Speaker 8: get rid of it, and we're willing to get rid
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Speaker 8: of it for anything. And the whole thing is the
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Speaker 8: league basically, I mean, unless we're talking about a Dallas
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Speaker 8: LA situation where Dallas only talked to the Lakers and
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Speaker 8: didn't talk to anyone else, If Boston only talked to Philly,
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Speaker 8: then that's really on Brad Stevens. But if they shot
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Speaker 8: Jalen Brown around, and the entire league said nah, it
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Speaker 8: ain't worth it. Then you've just declared that that contract,
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Speaker 8: which yeah, when his extension comes in, that's going to
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Speaker 8: be a seventy million dollars a year contract. That's a
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Speaker 8: bad that's among the worst contracts available.
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Speaker 7: Well, and here's where the NBA has really put themselves
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Speaker 7: into a corner and a number of situations, one with
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Speaker 7: the first and second April, and they have made it
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Speaker 7: to where you cannot keep your stars anymore, like it
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Speaker 7: is just becoming harder and harder to be able to
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Speaker 7: do that. While also within this current CBA if you
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Speaker 7: and I guess they didn't think it would happen as often.
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Speaker 6: But when you are on.
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Speaker 7: The All NBA team, when you're on the All NBA
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Speaker 7: Defensive team, when you when you get all of those
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Speaker 7: different accolades, that's what categorizes you for that MAX contract.
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Speaker 7: And Jalen Brown has checked off every single box and
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Speaker 7: so they didn't have a choice but to give him
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Speaker 7: that money and that contract. So if the teams around
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Speaker 7: the league are saying that the contract is mad, it's
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Speaker 7: not bad. It's not Jalen Brown that he's that He's
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Speaker 7: won all of those and again he's probably the only
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Speaker 7: one that I can think of that has been all
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Speaker 7: NBA first team consistently to check off all the box
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Speaker 7: boxes to be able to be at that super max
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Speaker 7: seventy million dollars a year contract. And I guarantee, I'm
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Speaker 7: not gonna guarantee because I don't know, but I would
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Speaker 7: almost promise you that that's what. It also came down
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Speaker 7: to the same thing that everyone was saying that it
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Speaker 7: came down with Luca Dodgers. They didn't want to pay
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Speaker 7: him seventy or seventy five million dollars a year.
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Speaker 6: Oh, definitely not.
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Speaker 8: Now, you know again, depending on whether you do the
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Speaker 8: eye test or you look at analytics. Analytically speaking, Yeah,
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Speaker 8: Jaylen Brown has some things that might be why Brad
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Speaker 8: Stevens said, we I think we can do better. We
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Speaker 8: can find a better number two for cheaper and we
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Speaker 8: can develop that first and foremost in the past three
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Speaker 8: seasons basically since he signed this contract, Jayalen Brown or
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Speaker 8: the Boston Celtics are thirty six and six without Jalen Brown.
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, they can win. So they can win. You
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Speaker 8: kind of saw that in Game seven against Philly in
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Speaker 8: the playoff series as well, when he sat Boston was
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Speaker 8: actually his on off was actually in favor of Boston
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Speaker 8: when he sat as opposed to when he was on
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Speaker 8: the court. I don't know again until Boston or Brad
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Speaker 8: Stevens or whomever comes out with the rationale why they
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Speaker 8: went ahead and pulled the trigger for such a measly return,
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Speaker 8: that this one's gonna be a head scratcher, only, like
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Speaker 8: I say, at least in recent memory, only comparable to
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Speaker 8: the Luca Dacin Daunchin's trade from Dallas to la.
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for being here with us today.
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Speaker 8: Okay, real quick, it was VJ. Edgecombe. That's the original
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Speaker 8: the original offer that Boston was willing to accept for
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Speaker 8: Jalen Brown was VJ. Edgecomb and five first round draft picks.
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Speaker 7: Well and and for for Philly. Wait, so you're saying
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Speaker 7: that's what Boston asked for Philly. Okay, yeah, Philly's not
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Speaker 7: gonna do that. No, why would they.
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Speaker 8: Again, because here's it's your first offer.
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Speaker 7: Well, everybody knows that Jalen wants like Jalen's wanted out
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Speaker 7: unless they were gonna pay him, and Boston wasn't going
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Speaker 7: to pay him.
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Speaker 6: And so here we are with this situation that.
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Speaker 7: And I was thinking this as you were trying to
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Speaker 7: like put put in who they were trading for, what
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Speaker 7: that first offer was, for all of those things. You
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Speaker 7: were trying to apply logic to the situation. And there
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Speaker 7: is none other than Boston just showed showed that they
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Speaker 7: needed to get rid of him.
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Speaker 6: They didn't like.
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Speaker 7: It wasn't a well maybe we will, It wasn't a okay,
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Speaker 7: we think we have to know they needed to get
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Speaker 7: rid of him. And for Jalen Brown, like I here's
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Speaker 7: the other thing I thought, like, I understand why in
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Speaker 7: the last three years he's been on the trading block
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Speaker 7: for Kevin Durant, he has been on the trading block
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Speaker 7: for Gianni Santa Tecumpo, and now they just said we're
20:44
Speaker 7: gonna trade you like period And so why would you
20:48
Speaker 7: why would he want to be there?
20:50
Speaker 8: Oh no, I mean again, there's no question that Boston
20:56
Speaker 8: was gonna have to deal him away.
20:59
Speaker 6: It to you, honest, Trae didn't go that.
21:01
Speaker 8: Yeah, it be honest. Trade you you have you have
21:04
Speaker 8: now soured the milk. I just go back to the
21:09
Speaker 8: timing of it, because again, and I'm not saying they
21:12
Speaker 8: were in competition for Lebron, but that, as we were
21:17
Speaker 8: talking about on the show yesterday, that is going to
21:19
Speaker 8: be the the stone in the pond with ripples that
21:24
Speaker 8: you might be able to be a part of something
21:26
Speaker 8: at some point that you get more for Jalen Brown
21:28
Speaker 8: than what you ultimately did, and especially to whom you
21:30
Speaker 8: sent him to that I again, that's kind of what
21:34
Speaker 8: I go back to. It just seems like this was
21:36
Speaker 8: extraordinarily rushed because there's no NBA trade trade deadline till February.
21:42
Speaker 8: There were again, there was no clock on this. There
21:45
Speaker 8: was no you know, no threat that oh, Jalen's not
21:48
Speaker 8: even gonna come to you know, to o TA during
21:52
Speaker 8: during the I mean, there was nothing that necessitated this
21:56
Speaker 8: other than what typically will come down the pike. Is
22:02
Speaker 8: Brad Stevens says, my owner said I had to do something.
22:05
Speaker 7: Well, I mean it'll be something along those lines, and
22:08
Speaker 7: I mean, or it could just be and and I
22:11
Speaker 7: think thankfully they are all showing the the level of
22:14
Speaker 7: professional professionalism that you have to but I also think
22:18
Speaker 7: over this last week, Jalen was just like, get me
22:22
Speaker 7: out of here. Oh yeah, and and and and here
22:25
Speaker 7: was the only ultimatum he would have and the only
22:27
Speaker 7: ultimatum I'm imagining that he gave was especially if y'all
22:31
Speaker 7: aren't going to give me my extension, I want out
22:35
Speaker 7: of the building now. Yeah, and and and maybe that
22:39
Speaker 7: was the the Celtics wanting to to land on that
22:44
Speaker 7: and knowing that they have Jason Tatum and the Wings
22:47
Speaker 7: and I'm just like they that has always been.
22:50
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum's team, no matter how.
22:52
Speaker 7: Well Jalen Brown has played, no matter in their championship run,
22:57
Speaker 7: he Jalen Brown was the Finals MVP, not Jason.
23:00
Speaker 10: Yeah.
23:00
Speaker 6: I know.
23:00
Speaker 8: Well, so again I was talking about in the last
23:03
Speaker 8: three years, Boston has been thirty six and six without
23:07
Speaker 8: Jalen Brown. So just to give you an idea, here
23:09
Speaker 8: is the win percentages since let's go back to twenty
23:13
Speaker 8: the twenty two to twenty three season, so with with Brown,
23:17
Speaker 8: Boston had a six eighty seven, seven forty three, seventy three,
23:21
Speaker 8: and then six sixty two win percentage without Brown over
23:25
Speaker 8: those same four seasons, seven thirty three, one thousand percent
23:31
Speaker 8: eighty nine eight point eight.
23:33
Speaker 7: So how many games did they play that they didn't
23:35
Speaker 7: lose without him? That they didn't Yeah, you said they
23:38
Speaker 7: won a thousand percent, Like they were.
23:40
Speaker 8: Twelve to zero in the twenty three twenty four season
23:43
Speaker 8: without Jalen Brown.
23:48
Speaker 7: As analytical as I know, the Celtics organization is right now,
23:53
Speaker 7: like that's all they were looking at is what their
23:58
Speaker 7: team does. Would you shoot a lot of threes? Which
24:00
Speaker 7: Dalen Brown does not shoot a lot of threes? That
24:03
Speaker 7: they have proven that they can win with those stats.
24:08
Speaker 7: They can, They've proven that they can win without them.
24:09
Speaker 7: And like you said in that first break, they can
24:13
Speaker 7: get Paul George. Ain't that the cheap number two options,
24:17
Speaker 7: but they can get a cheaper number two, and maybe
24:20
Speaker 7: they're gonna.
24:20
Speaker 6: Look to deal.
24:21
Speaker 7: Maybe they're trying to get this done quicker so that
24:23
Speaker 7: they can try to deal Paul George for something else.
24:25
Speaker 6: I don't know what that is.
24:26
Speaker 7: Or what that looks like, but they're they're they're trying
24:29
Speaker 7: to move quickly and get that done. And now you've
24:34
Speaker 7: got me trying to put logic into something that isn't there.
24:36
Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying.
24:37
Speaker 7: There's we're putting we're putting square pegs in round holes
24:41
Speaker 7: trying to find the logic of it.
24:42
Speaker 10: What was Brown's contract was on about fifty million a year?
24:46
Speaker 10: Was it?
24:46
Speaker 8: Let's see, uh this year and next year? Is it's
24:52
Speaker 8: the max, isn't it?
24:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's on a current MAX contract for the neck
24:55
Speaker 7: and they had him for the next three years.
24:57
Speaker 8: And he was he was eligible, he'd be eligible for
24:59
Speaker 8: an extension uh in that third year, which would take
25:03
Speaker 8: him up to So I think currently he's fifty.
25:05
Speaker 6: Four millions somewhere in.
25:07
Speaker 8: There, and then into seven fifty seven, thank you, and
25:10
Speaker 8: then in three year three it would increase to well
25:14
Speaker 8: over seventy million.
25:15
Speaker 9: Yes, so yeah, yeah, I think you know, like you said,
25:20
Speaker 9: cheaper number two right.
25:22
Speaker 8: Well, and and again in a league as as we
25:25
Speaker 8: if you pointed out as we've been talking about, in
25:27
Speaker 8: a league where the current CBA has has really made it,
25:32
Speaker 8: if you hit that second apron, your team is being
25:35
Speaker 8: just destroyed, destroyed. It is all about finding the efficiencies
25:40
Speaker 8: and if if you believe you can develop a cheaper,
25:45
Speaker 8: less costly number two, you're gonna take it, because I mean,
25:49
Speaker 8: that's the only advantage you have the the current the
25:53
Speaker 8: currency right now, in the league is draft picks. It
25:55
Speaker 8: is not. It is not the big stars.
25:58
Speaker 7: And and here's something that I'll thinking up about earlier
26:01
Speaker 7: today of what the NBA wants itself to be, because
26:06
Speaker 7: they've also you're right, and pres San Presty and Oklahoma
26:11
Speaker 7: State have shown that if you have the intelligence to
26:15
Speaker 7: really manage and and scout well on draft picks, that
26:20
Speaker 7: is the best currency you can have. And so now
26:23
Speaker 7: the NBA is legislating out dynasty type teams because of
26:27
Speaker 7: the second apron but also now and I thought it
26:31
Speaker 7: was stupid for them to do this anyway, they're really
26:33
Speaker 7: kind of starting to legislate, like what are draft picks
26:35
Speaker 7: for now? If you can't stockpiling them doesn't do any
26:38
Speaker 7: good if because if you can't do top three three
26:41
Speaker 7: years in a row and top five, well, I forget
26:43
Speaker 7: what the other stipulation was with the new with the
26:45
Speaker 7: new anti tank, but those are things like I don't
26:49
Speaker 7: I have no idea what the NBA is looking for anymore.
26:53
Speaker 8: Well, I think it goes back to the central issue
26:57
Speaker 8: the league has, where the product during the for the
27:02
Speaker 8: majority of the regular season is just not enjoyable to watch.
27:07
Speaker 15: And.
27:09
Speaker 8: You're trying you're you're trying to correct so many things
27:13
Speaker 8: and there's not a silver bullet that that solves your problem.
27:17
Speaker 8: And so at the same time, you're you're trying to
27:21
Speaker 8: to level, to level the playing field from the standpoint
27:24
Speaker 8: of having the first apron and separate aprons so that
27:27
Speaker 8: these teams can be You're not You're not seeing the
27:31
Speaker 8: super dynasties where all the stars congregate on one team
27:35
Speaker 8: because the owner is willing to forego the luxury tax
27:38
Speaker 8: because they've got more money than than well just about
27:41
Speaker 8: anyone in the world looking at you, Steve Bomer, doesn't
27:44
Speaker 8: always equate to success. But uh, at the same time,
27:51
Speaker 8: teams that are trying to to rebuild basically are just
27:56
Speaker 8: throwing away a season, i e. The Utah Jazz and
27:59
Speaker 8: the washing and Washington Wizards, which Washington all this, you
28:02
Speaker 8: know that may actually show based on their draft, their
28:07
Speaker 8: draft this year and in addition to some of the
28:09
Speaker 8: folks they brought in, they might actually be an attractive
28:12
Speaker 8: team to watch next year. I'm not saying they're going
28:14
Speaker 8: to be competitive, but they might be like what Charlotte
28:16
Speaker 8: was this year, and what you saw was Charlotte. Charlotte
28:19
Speaker 8: went ahead even after probably their most successful year really ever, they've.
28:25
Speaker 6: Dealt those then they broke up the team.
28:27
Speaker 8: They broke up the team, and they're gonna they're gonna
28:29
Speaker 8: try and try and do it again. You we might
28:35
Speaker 8: be we might have to look at this, you know,
28:37
Speaker 8: three to five years down the road and say, while
28:40
Speaker 8: Adam Silver was the most progressive commissioner when he took
28:44
Speaker 8: over the job from David Stern, he was not the
28:47
Speaker 8: man who who was needed to guide this league through
28:52
Speaker 8: a difficult period of time in regards to putting a
28:57
Speaker 8: competitive product on the court to compete against the NFL
29:03
Speaker 8: and the other sports that you've seen a ride arise.
29:08
Speaker 8: And I would even say the WNBA in its popularity
29:12
Speaker 8: on a percentage basis, has probably seen more, definitely seen
29:17
Speaker 8: more growth than what the NBA has been able to
29:19
Speaker 8: at least retain in the last two to three years.
29:23
Speaker 7: Made what has always made the NBA as successful and
29:28
Speaker 7: as popular as it was has been dynasties and keeping
29:33
Speaker 7: your stars together. And regardless of the fact that you
29:37
Speaker 7: know what, there may have been eight to ten teams
29:42
Speaker 7: over the history, over the course of the history of
29:44
Speaker 7: the NBA that have only ever won that didn't ever
29:47
Speaker 7: impact the popularity of the sport. All of this is
29:52
Speaker 7: when you're watering it down. This isn't the NFL. There
29:54
Speaker 7: aren't fifty three players on each team like when you're
29:57
Speaker 7: watering it down this much. That's what That's the other
29:59
Speaker 7: part why people aren't wanting to watch. They don't know
30:01
Speaker 7: who or what or whatever they're watching when they're looking
30:04
Speaker 7: at the games.
30:04
Speaker 8: Now, I mean, I go back to to to the
30:08
Speaker 8: fact of what made the nineties such an incredible period
30:13
Speaker 8: of time to watch the NBA. It wasn't the scoring,
30:16
Speaker 8: Oh no, it was it was physical basketball. But much
30:21
Speaker 8: like with Major League Baseball, in the NFL, everyone all
30:26
Speaker 8: the metrics came back, Oh we want to see more scoring.
30:29
Speaker 8: So all the rules skew towards a more offensive game,
30:33
Speaker 8: to the point where now the NBA All Star Game
30:36
Speaker 8: is just a sleeping joke.
30:38
Speaker 6: Can't stand that.
30:39
Speaker 8: You know you're gonna get a two hundred point All
30:40
Speaker 8: Star Game at some point, maybe that's the direction you
30:44
Speaker 8: need to go back to change, Go go back on
30:47
Speaker 8: some of the on some of the officiating rules to
30:49
Speaker 8: make this more of a defensive, defensive lead.
30:52
Speaker 7: Whether it's baseball, whether it's the NFL, whether it's the
30:55
Speaker 7: NBA or hockey, like scoring gets you the casual fan.
31:00
Speaker 7: But you know who's not going to watch eighty two
31:01
Speaker 7: regular season basketball games, the casual fan.
31:04
Speaker 6: And so I think that's you. You're You're trying to bring.
31:08
Speaker 7: In as many casual fans as you want, but they're
31:10
Speaker 7: not the ones that are going to be there during
31:13
Speaker 7: the regular season when you need TV TV eyeballs as much. Oh,
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Speaker 7: What are the staples of Jason and Jared taking over
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Speaker 8: Oh, it's gonna play. I mean it's we're going into
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Speaker 6: So, yeah, those are the stables.
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Speaker 7: Jason Jared audre in today for Chip who is I Yeah,
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Speaker 7: assignment all month long. Yeah, you'll, you'll as we get
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37:33
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37:36
Speaker 6: I know about July, like July is when when I
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37:40
Speaker 8: So we're gonna we're gonna deviate from NBA real quick.
37:45
Speaker 8: The other reason I wanted order to come in as
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Speaker 8: an experience n C double a athlete. In addition to you, Jason.
37:52
Speaker 6: Way younger than I.
37:54
Speaker 8: I know, yes, she she has recent bona fides. But
37:58
Speaker 8: there's been a lot that has occurred in the NCAA
38:02
Speaker 8: uh here of late, some of it obviously embarrassing coming
38:07
Speaker 8: out of Lubbock. But one of the things that is
38:10
Speaker 8: going into effect and is going to have an impact
38:14
Speaker 8: is the new five year rules. So Audra, I wanted
38:16
Speaker 8: to give the floor to you to to open up
38:18
Speaker 8: the discussion on this.
38:19
Speaker 9: So just summarize it, right, because obviously there's a lot.
38:23
Speaker 9: It's very new, right, so there's a lot out there
38:26
Speaker 9: right now.
38:27
Speaker 10: Even when Nan simwily.
38:28
Speaker 9: Was talking about it, right and you were hearing, Hey,
38:31
Speaker 9: this is going to pass, this is going to go through.
38:33
Speaker 9: There's a lot of false information out there, so just
38:36
Speaker 9: want to I'm gonna try to do my best to
38:38
Speaker 9: kind of clarify what is this, right and what's involved
38:41
Speaker 9: in it.
38:42
Speaker 10: So it's only affecting Division one.
38:44
Speaker 9: So that's something that you know, I've gotten questions on
38:48
Speaker 9: from you know a lot about like is this going
38:50
Speaker 9: across the born Like now it's just a vision one, right, no.
38:54
Speaker 10: Red shirts anymore.
38:56
Speaker 9: Which is crazy to think about, right, So you're not
38:59
Speaker 9: gonna have you know, your freshman quarterback.
39:02
Speaker 10: You know, oh, you played in four games, wasn't good enough.
39:04
Speaker 10: Now let's ride shirt them.
39:06
Speaker 9: That's not a thing anymore, right, So that's gonna be
39:10
Speaker 9: I think obviously really affecting power forwards, football.
39:13
Speaker 10: Basketball, all that stuff.
39:14
Speaker 3: Right.
39:16
Speaker 9: And then the time window is interesting, so really strict
39:19
Speaker 9: time window for it. It's as soon as you graduate
39:22
Speaker 9: high school or up until you turn nineteen is the
39:25
Speaker 9: time that you have to go, right, and that's where
39:28
Speaker 9: your clock starts ticking.
39:29
Speaker 10: So that's something that's really new.
39:31
Speaker 9: So you know, some of the soccers of the world
39:33
Speaker 9: and some of the soccer players of the world that
39:35
Speaker 9: especially like Europeans coming over at age twenty twenty one,
39:40
Speaker 9: you know, coming to play. That's not happening now, right,
39:42
Speaker 9: So that's something that's I think going to affect maybe
39:46
Speaker 9: not necessarily like football, basketball, baseball, right, but definitely I
39:50
Speaker 9: think soccer will be affected by that big time and
39:53
Speaker 9: then very limited exceptions. So the different waivers and SOBA
39:58
Speaker 9: has it is going to be you know that we're seeing,
40:02
Speaker 9: you know, some of these powerful athletes get it's not
40:04
Speaker 9: gonna be a thing. It's gonna be incredibly limited on
40:07
Speaker 9: some of these other waivers they have going on. So
40:09
Speaker 9: that's the best I can explain on the on that
40:13
Speaker 9: as simple as I can make it.
40:14
Speaker 7: My first question is going to be does so you're
40:18
Speaker 7: saying it's only in Division one, so you got five
40:22
Speaker 7: years no matter that that clock starts, no matter what.
40:24
Speaker 7: So you can't go to JUCO, play your two years
40:27
Speaker 7: in JUCO and then go Division two for a couple
40:30
Speaker 7: of years and then try to come up and play.
40:32
Speaker 7: So once that clock starts at nineteen and you may
40:36
Speaker 7: or may not remember this, but wasn't that like that
40:39
Speaker 7: used to be always you once you declared for the
40:42
Speaker 7: clearing house, your clock started, So wait when and maybe
40:45
Speaker 7: and maybe that's what I'm misunderstanding. When did that stop?
40:49
Speaker 7: And why are they having to put this rule back
40:51
Speaker 7: in place?
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Speaker 9: I think it's more so to I know, the President
40:55
Speaker 9: signed something in the law not too long ago with
40:57
Speaker 9: this whole you only have five years, So I think
40:59
Speaker 9: then simple then had to respond to that, Right, how
41:01
Speaker 9: do we handle that? What are the what what can
41:03
Speaker 9: we put into place that's going to align with that?
41:06
Speaker 9: You know, and obviously this is because of Nil. All
41:09
Speaker 9: of this is because of Nil ultimately, so I think,
41:14
Speaker 9: you know, let's look at you know, is it who
41:18
Speaker 9: was at Miami as the quarterback?
41:19
Speaker 10: Is it Carson? Carson back?
41:20
Speaker 6: Yeah?
41:21
Speaker 12: Right?
41:21
Speaker 10: So what was he on his seventh yere? Which is insane?
41:25
Speaker 12: Think about?
41:26
Speaker 9: You know, And I watched a press conference he did
41:29
Speaker 9: this past like fall, and he was like, you know,
41:32
Speaker 9: they're talking about like, hey, what are you studying?
41:34
Speaker 10: He's like, I'm not.
41:35
Speaker 6: He was a professional, a professional student.
41:38
Speaker 9: So I think also sensibly he's looking at this going,
41:42
Speaker 9: you know, we sell student athlete, student athlete, right, yeah,
41:47
Speaker 9: and you laugh and I also laugh, okay at that.
41:50
Speaker 9: So I think for them, does this allow Dan stable
41:53
Speaker 9: A to take more control of like trying to go
41:56
Speaker 9: student athlete. Now you have five years, that's it, Like
41:59
Speaker 9: you're not it's going to linger around you. Three master's
42:02
Speaker 9: degrees and you know, just to stay in the game
42:04
Speaker 9: so you can make millions of dollars, you know through
42:07
Speaker 9: an il. So it's just I don't know, I think
42:10
Speaker 9: that's then Sibley's way of trying to maybe get back
42:13
Speaker 9: to student athletes.
42:14
Speaker 10: Student athlete, get your degree.
42:16
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42:23
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Speaker 7: Jared and I, especially for these last couple of years,
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Speaker 7: and the lack of teeth that they have and the
46:54
Speaker 7: lack of control that that they have probably never had.
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Speaker 6: But it's just.
47:00
Speaker 7: Really showcased itself in the last decade, even more so
47:03
Speaker 7: in the last five years. And so now you've told
47:06
Speaker 7: us about this five year rule that has just been
47:08
Speaker 7: implemented and really trying to have the NCAA say ooh
47:13
Speaker 7: we got strength again. And I don't think that that
47:16
Speaker 7: is actually going to be the case.
47:19
Speaker 10: No, there there's gonna there's always loopholes.
47:22
Speaker 9: If there's one thing I learned working in Divisional one
47:24
Speaker 9: athletics for the.
47:25
Speaker 10: Last eight years, it was there's always a loophole with anything, yes,
47:29
Speaker 10: and it's not it.
47:30
Speaker 9: And so I think looking at it, you know, in
47:33
Speaker 9: this five year thing, I think there's upsides and downsides, right,
47:38
Speaker 9: I think kind of looking at it, right, I think
47:41
Speaker 9: an upside is we're going to see stronger transfer.
47:44
Speaker 10: Classes across all sports.
47:46
Speaker 9: Yes, like significantly stronger transfer classes. But with transferring, right,
47:52
Speaker 9: And this is what I go back to somebody who
47:53
Speaker 9: was a coach for a very long time. You know,
47:57
Speaker 9: the student athlete experience graduating on time, degrees, credits, transferring,
48:03
Speaker 9: all these crazy things. Right, it just it's gotten so
48:07
Speaker 9: out of control, and it honestly takes away I think
48:13
Speaker 9: from you know, and I'm all for like, you know,
48:16
Speaker 9: for me when I was coaching, it's I really wanted
48:18
Speaker 9: to see my kids graduate, right and no matter where
48:20
Speaker 9: they and if they left and were and they want somewhere.
48:22
Speaker 10: Else, I want I still want to see them graduate,
48:24
Speaker 10: you know, because your sports career.
48:27
Speaker 9: Can end in you know, like that in a minute,
48:30
Speaker 9: you know, injury, anything can happen. Getting a degree is
48:34
Speaker 9: important in my opinion, and I know there's many people
48:36
Speaker 9: out there that will disagree with that, and you know,
48:39
Speaker 9: I get it. It's but ultimately, you know, when these
48:43
Speaker 9: student athletes leave and they're done and they may not
48:46
Speaker 9: be good enough to play professionally or you know, they
48:49
Speaker 9: need that degree, and so transferring across the board has
48:53
Speaker 9: just gotten so out of hand. I think the NCA
48:55
Speaker 9: as well as looking at this five year rules, maybe
48:57
Speaker 9: mitigating some of that, you know, but ultimately, yeah, I
49:02
Speaker 9: can remember the day of transfer portal dropped, and I
49:05
Speaker 9: can remember logging into that for the first time and.
49:07
Speaker 10: Going, what is this?
49:08
Speaker 6: I can't even imagine what that is like.
49:12
Speaker 10: It's it's the most bizarre. It was so bizarre.
49:14
Speaker 9: To look at. And what made it really difficult. You know,
49:18
Speaker 9: the platform itself. You log in, you just see the
49:22
Speaker 9: kid's name where they played. You get very little information
49:25
Speaker 9: on the kid in that actual portal. And then it
49:27
Speaker 9: created this whole other business where there's these agents that
49:30
Speaker 9: are just running these like hey, like if you pay
49:33
Speaker 9: us to pay this amount of money to us, you can,
49:36
Speaker 9: we will give you on every single kid in that portal.
49:40
Speaker 9: And it's it's just gotten so out of control in
49:42
Speaker 9: my opinion.
49:43
Speaker 7: Well, and Jared and I have talked about this, like
49:46
Speaker 7: we don't think that the college sports has ever been
49:52
Speaker 7: non professional, but these last six to seven to ten
49:56
Speaker 7: years have really shown that it is. It is just
49:59
Speaker 7: semi prefer sports. And what this and I get it,
50:03
Speaker 7: the n C double A is is doing their best
50:06
Speaker 7: to try to rain this back in. But there's zero chance,
50:10
Speaker 7: Like whatever cliche you want to use, the genies out
50:13
Speaker 7: of the bottle, they've opened Pandora's box, Like all of
50:16
Speaker 7: those cliches are all out there now because that's where
50:20
Speaker 7: we are, these student athletes are there.
50:22
Speaker 6: There is zero chance you were going.
50:24
Speaker 7: To be able to either not pay them to restrict
50:27
Speaker 7: And here's the thing, like one of the first lawsuits
50:29
Speaker 7: that I'm imagining going to come up is who are
50:32
Speaker 7: you to tell me how long I can play?
50:33
Speaker 6: Now? Like?
50:34
Speaker 8: What?
50:34
Speaker 7: What? And they and the exact same way that Soresby
50:37
Speaker 7: was able to find some district court judge to to
50:40
Speaker 7: be And he's not the only one.
50:41
Speaker 6: Everyone that whatever it's been.
50:43
Speaker 8: I mean, there are there are attorneys who specialize in
50:46
Speaker 8: taking the n C double A to court and they win.
50:49
Speaker 7: Yeah, because they know exactly what where where there There
50:51
Speaker 7: are a lot of weak points, but they know where.
50:54
Speaker 8: Think it's the biggest issue with the n C double
50:55
Speaker 8: A is over the years you've had, the quality of
50:59
Speaker 8: the attorneys you've had right stuff for THEA has gone
51:02
Speaker 8: down and down and down, and so like you say,
51:04
Speaker 8: there are there are a multitude of loopholes, and a
51:06
Speaker 8: lot of the times they were in there by design
51:08
Speaker 8: because there were certain institutions looking at you Texas, Michigan
51:11
Speaker 8: and Ohio State and a couple other ones and maybe
51:13
Speaker 8: Notre Dame that purposely want those in there because they
51:16
Speaker 8: want to exploit those anytime the situation arises to me,
51:22
Speaker 8: as you pointed out, as soon as the dollars on
51:27
Speaker 8: television contracts reached seven and eight figures, amateurism basically started
51:36
Speaker 8: going out the windows. And then especially once coaching salaries
51:40
Speaker 8: and I'm not trying to be offensive to you as
51:42
Speaker 8: a former coach, but as soon as your coach salaries
51:45
Speaker 8: started getting into the seven and eight yep figures, Meanwhile,
51:52
Speaker 8: your athletes are only allowed two meals. You know, they're
51:57
Speaker 8: only provided two meals a day, and they can't have
52:00
Speaker 8: a job to pay for the third meal, right, I mean,
52:05
Speaker 8: it's no wonder that this this farce that the NCUAA
52:10
Speaker 8: had of amateurism gets blown up because you have created
52:13
Speaker 8: a level of inequality that no one can justify, especially
52:17
Speaker 8: with when you're talking about this conference is getting paid
52:21
Speaker 8: a billion dollars per year to broadcast twelve twelve weeks
52:27
Speaker 8: of games.
52:28
Speaker 7: Well, and it goes back to what I was saying,
52:29
Speaker 7: like the fact that none of this is going to
52:32
Speaker 7: be collectively bargained because the nc DOUAA doesn't want to
52:36
Speaker 7: give up any of the money that they're getting, and
52:38
Speaker 7: that's all it is for them. Again, how are you
52:40
Speaker 7: going to tell a student athlete how long they can play?
52:44
Speaker 7: How are you going to tell a student athlete how
52:46
Speaker 7: many times they can transfer if I don't want to
52:48
Speaker 7: be here anymore, who are you to tell me I
52:50
Speaker 7: don't want that I can't be at the school anymore.
52:52
Speaker 7: All of those are and that's why those lawyers have
52:54
Speaker 7: gotten so good because they know what those weak points are.
52:57
Speaker 7: Because the nc DOUBLEA as long as they try, and
53:00
Speaker 7: it was working. But now everyone is smart enough to
53:02
Speaker 7: realize the NCAA can't can't restrict any.
53:05
Speaker 8: Say correct me if I'm wrong, because I think I
53:06
Speaker 8: read this, but I don't know if it was speculative
53:10
Speaker 8: or if it was actually part of it. I think
53:11
Speaker 8: is another part of the five year rule that you
53:13
Speaker 8: can now only transfer twice during that five year period
53:17
Speaker 8: of time.
53:17
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, which is taking away the you know, the
53:21
Speaker 9: student athletes that were going just every year to new school,
53:24
Speaker 9: which once again.
53:25
Speaker 10: Goes back to what's happening on the academic side.
53:28
Speaker 9: Yeah.
53:28
Speaker 7: Well, and that's why I've always laughed and you and
53:30
Speaker 7: I have to think I've talked about this too of
53:31
Speaker 7: when for especially for football, because that's the big, the
53:34
Speaker 7: big elephant in the room. The transfer portal for in
53:39
Speaker 7: for football was like January fifteenth, like after the bowl
53:43
Speaker 7: games were done, but most schools start the spring semester,
53:47
Speaker 7: like within a few days at that, And so, yeah,
53:50
Speaker 7: that is a very valid point of when like how
53:53
Speaker 7: how does the academic part of being a student athlete
53:56
Speaker 7: fit into that? And this is going to go into
53:58
Speaker 7: something that's that's very per like what I get to
54:01
Speaker 7: see on a a more close basis of like cause
54:04
Speaker 7: I do radio for women's basketball and play by play
54:07
Speaker 7: and so seeing like hearing the coaching staff and even
54:11
Speaker 7: hearing coach Blair before, like having to re recruit your
54:16
Speaker 7: team every year, every single year, Yes, like how can
54:21
Speaker 7: you like that has got to be nerve racking as
54:25
Speaker 7: a coach that not only are you trying to work
54:27
Speaker 7: on bringing in new players, but you've got to make
54:29
Speaker 7: sure that you're not losing your players.
54:31
Speaker 6: And that goes into that.
54:32
Speaker 7: And so I'm just like, this is a cluster of things,
54:36
Speaker 7: Like I guess I want to give the ncaa like
54:41
Speaker 7: a little bit of a pat on the head for
54:43
Speaker 7: trying to say, hey, look at us, we're we're putting
54:45
Speaker 7: we're trying to put some some guardrails back up there.
54:48
Speaker 7: But the guardrails are made out of tissue paper because
54:50
Speaker 7: they're not going to last, yes.
54:52
Speaker 9: Not at all, And I would say, I look at
54:57
Speaker 9: this would be the best example of the sport I
55:00
Speaker 9: think that's transferring. The most basketball players are leaving every
55:04
Speaker 9: single year and going somewhere new. Even at the mid
55:07
Speaker 9: major Division one level, they're doing it. And it's like,
55:09
Speaker 9: so now that will be mitigated hopefully, but we'll see,
55:13
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. Like you said, I think
55:15
Speaker 9: there's just going to be lawsuit after lawsuit. They're going
55:17
Speaker 9: to have to I guarantee next year, if not in
55:19
Speaker 9: two years something, there's going to be something else that
55:22
Speaker 9: they're going to try to stop all this.
55:23
Speaker 8: I think this past season we got to host either
55:27
Speaker 8: at the end of the regular NCAA season or just
55:31
Speaker 8: during March Madness, and at that point was the statistic
55:34
Speaker 8: that sixty six percent of all men's basketball players had
55:40
Speaker 8: entered the transfer portal. Two thirds. Yeah, and obviously I
55:46
Speaker 8: think less than ten percent of them we're actually going
55:48
Speaker 8: to move somewhere else.
55:50
Speaker 6: Back Here's that's just as a.
55:53
Speaker 7: Unless you know that your coach is going to completely
55:57
Speaker 7: kick you off the team for putting your name in
55:59
Speaker 7: the portal, why wouldn't you put your name in the portal,
56:02
Speaker 7: especially in today's inn il Like I'm gonna see what
56:06
Speaker 7: else I can get out there. And so that's why
56:08
Speaker 7: for me, I'm looking at like this is there's I
56:12
Speaker 7: applaud their attempt. I just I applaud their temp because
56:17
Speaker 7: I do really think something needs to be to be
56:20
Speaker 7: put in place, because again this is this is not
56:24
Speaker 7: meant to be professional sports.
56:26
Speaker 10: Correct.
56:27
Speaker 7: However, you also, with the amount of money going on,
56:31
Speaker 7: you can't you can't strong arm everybody the way the
56:33
Speaker 7: NCAA has for the overwhelming majority of years. And like
56:37
Speaker 7: you mentioned, Jared, how the coaches started to try to
56:40
Speaker 7: keep the the money and everything just oh, this is
56:43
Speaker 7: just for us, y'all are just no, that's not fair either.
56:46
Speaker 7: There is a fair way to do it, and it
56:49
Speaker 7: would be nice if if they figured that out. We
56:53
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56:55
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