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454: SFA 105, DS9 or DS Nope! Star Trek Toy News, SFA screws over comics and hidden Easter egg · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: Track Cast, the Galaxy's Most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: That was unpredictable.
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  Speaker 3: Live from studios in Michigan, New York and id HO.
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  Speaker 3: You're listening to Trek Casts, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Today.
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  Speaker 3: On the show, we're going to be reviewing the Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek episode Deep Space nine series Acclamation mill, I mean
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  Speaker 3: Starklet Academy series Acclamation Mill.
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  Speaker 4: Plus. We've got Star Trek.
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  Speaker 3: News and your listener feedback, and now the Emissary of
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  Speaker 3: Trek Cast, Daniel Reyes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not the emissary very much, so, sir, yes you are.
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  Speaker 4: You are of truck Cast. Yeah, you are of the
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  Speaker 4: truck Cast.
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  Speaker 5: Well that's true. I'm of the Internet. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: what's this fist doing the postrong? It's the digital touching.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wait that sounds really bad right now.
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  Speaker 4: No please don't digital touch me.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, not at all. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll
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  Speaker 5: definitely talk about that episode. We also got some Star
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  Speaker 5: Trek news right now. It's really hard to find news
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  Speaker 5: stories because almost every single one is like, oh, let's
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  Speaker 5: recap the latest episode, like every new story, so right,
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  Speaker 5: but I found stories so I'm excited about that there's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be something in there for toy collectors, so that
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  Speaker 5: should be exciting. But how you guys been.
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  Speaker 4: Good? Good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right on, a lot of a lot of crap
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  Speaker 3: going around, a lot of sickness going around, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of yeah, a lot of cold and snowy and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah cold snow yeah, Star Trek.
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  Speaker 4: I am so over this winter.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like I want to do this show
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  Speaker 2: two weeks after the episode comes out, because we did
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  Speaker 2: a whole show on last week's episode, and then I
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  Speaker 2: had a whole week of it like rolling around, yeah
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  Speaker 2: my head and like I don't want to rehash last
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  Speaker 2: week's episode, but you know, new things came to mind
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  Speaker 2: that just don't make sense. Oh yeah, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know when to uh, when to.
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  Speaker 5: Discuss them, yeah, or if to discuss them, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: So there's there's so many like, there's so many plot holes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there's a giant there's a giant one in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: It's terrible.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, terrible, yeah, terrible. It frustrates me to no end.
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  Speaker 5: I just last night, just side note last night, I too.
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  Speaker 5: It's called the table read where we read somebody's script
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  Speaker 5: out loud and we helped the writer like kind of
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  Speaker 5: flesh out their script, right.
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  Speaker 2: The thing these people are supposed to be doing. But
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  Speaker 2: that got it?
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  Speaker 4: Got it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So like I went to
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  Speaker 5: this and I was thinking about, like do they not
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  Speaker 5: do this? Like they don't, they don't, they have to not,
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  Speaker 5: or they don't care. But we'll get into the plot
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  Speaker 5: holes because there's quite a many of them.
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  Speaker 2: So last week's episode, yeah, yeah, go for it. Can
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  Speaker 2: we can? We touch on it again? Good briefly? And
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  Speaker 2: I got a whole bunch of stuff here and I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna cover all of it. But
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  Speaker 2: the whole crux of the episode was that Klingons are
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  Speaker 2: a ritualistic society, right, Okay, their entire society is based
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  Speaker 2: on the warrior mentality, right, and this show is true
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  Speaker 2: to that, but only when it wants to be. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: you know that, Like, for an example, Jaden wouldn't eat
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  Speaker 2: warrior stew because he's not he's not supposed to. But
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  Speaker 2: the whole point of his characters in this show is
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  Speaker 2: that he does stuff that he's not supposed to as
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  Speaker 2: a clanon or doesn't do the things that he's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do. Klingons don't accept anything that they can't conquer, right,
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  Speaker 2: that was my takeaway. That's why they wouldn't accept the planet. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that makes the idea of a triad house even more ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't accept charity, if you won't take anything
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  Speaker 2: without conquer it, conquer it. The idea of sharing another
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  Speaker 2: man's wife makes zero sense. Or if you're a man
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  Speaker 2: and you and you allow someone to share your wife
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  Speaker 2: without him killing you first, doesn't make doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Klingons have a patriarchal society. Except for that
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  Speaker 2: brief moment of time in Star Trek, six women couldn't
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  Speaker 2: be on the High Council. They couldn't be they could
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  Speaker 2: be chancellor. This is the whole reason that the Doras
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  Speaker 2: sisters had to come up, had to find the illegitimate
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  Speaker 2: son of Doras to Uh to challenge uh Galron taking
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  Speaker 2: the throne. This is the whole reason that Groca had
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  Speaker 2: to marry Quork, because she couldn't lead a house on
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  Speaker 2: her own. You know, the idea that Jayden has two
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  Speaker 2: fathers makes zero, zero sense if instead it was his
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  Speaker 2: father had two wives, that would make a little more sense.
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  Speaker 2: But even then, I think the wives would kill each other.
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  Speaker 2: Inklingon society predominance.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what you could argue the guys would have doo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're trying hard to say, look how different and
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  Speaker 2: open and progressive we are without actually considering the story
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  Speaker 2: and the rules that they've already established for themselves. And
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  Speaker 2: I think the detractors would say, not all Klingons are
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  Speaker 2: the same, and it's small minded if you think that.
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  Speaker 2: But the whole point of this episode is that all
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  Speaker 2: Klingons are the same, and that's why they won't accept
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  Speaker 2: that planet. M you mean to tell me there isn't
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  Speaker 2: like a small pocket of Klingons. It'd be like, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, we'll take the planet. We'll take it. We'll
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  Speaker 2: take it, and we will procreate and the Klingon species
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  Speaker 2: will live on. And if those Klingons over there die
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  Speaker 2: fighting each other in space, then that's on them. But
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be the new Klingon empire to another day. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and you could even argue like, because it's been
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  Speaker 5: a thousand years, right, that's the whole premise. You could
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  Speaker 5: even argue like, maybe there is a subset of Klingons
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  Speaker 5: who did conquer a different planet, and they're like, we
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  Speaker 5: live non traditionally here. That's why we have a triune
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  Speaker 5: houses or whatever. Right, Like, their whole thing is that
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  Speaker 5: they're different or they're yeah, they're incorporated more with other
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  Speaker 5: other species.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the whole thing doesn't make sense. If there
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  Speaker 2: are Klingons that are progressive enough that they're gay or
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  Speaker 2: bisexual or polyamorous, then surely there are Klingons who would
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  Speaker 2: accept charity and take this new planet to prevent their
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  Speaker 2: own extinction.
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  Speaker 5: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: So so once again it's you know, it's not intolerance,
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  Speaker 2: it's bad writing. It's bad writing, yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well that's got it. I got it off
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  Speaker 2: my chest. Y.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, don't worry. There's more bad writing to talk about later.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh, I I know you know my wife I
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  Speaker 2: I before I came down here to do this, I
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  Speaker 2: hear a kiss and said I'll be downstairs taking a
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  Speaker 2: ship on star Trek, and it's like it's's like a yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I know, I it's so hard when
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  Speaker 2: I love something so much, Yeah, and I see it
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  Speaker 2: turning into something else. I guess that's the best way to.
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  Speaker 4: I felt it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when I was I was watching this episode in
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  Speaker 5: the plot holes, I will get into them, I h.
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  Speaker 5: I remember thinking, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but all right, let's get to the Star Trek
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  Speaker 5: News because sure good stuff in there, at.
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  Speaker 2: Least Star Trek News.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so our first news story comes to us
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  Speaker 5: from Gizmoto. That's one of my favorite websites to say
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  Speaker 5: the name of. I don't know if you saw this, Dan,
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  Speaker 5: you're a toy collector like myself, but Nacelle is going
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  Speaker 5: to be coming out with a build a bridge set
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  Speaker 5: with their toy line, their upcoming toy line. This is
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be in line with the figures, so the
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  Speaker 5: figures were able to to be there perfectly. It's a
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  Speaker 5: one ten scales, so this thing is going to be massive,
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  Speaker 5: and they yeah, oh, I'm sorry, Oh, I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 5: we don't know the price point on this, but they're
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  Speaker 5: going to be selling it in individual sections, so separate
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  Speaker 5: from the action figures.
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  Speaker 2: Separate from the action figures. Yeah. See that's see, that's strange, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because usually so we've seen stuff like this before. Usually
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  Speaker 2: what this is is each figure in the series comes
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  Speaker 2: with a piece of a larger figure or a set
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  Speaker 2: piece like this. And you know, if you want to
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  Speaker 2: build the whole Juggernaut figure, you have to buy all
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  Speaker 2: seven X Men in that series, right because one comes
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  Speaker 2: with an arm, one comes with another arm. You get
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  Speaker 2: the head, the torso, the legs and whatnot. And it's
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  Speaker 2: a marketing thing to get you to buy all of them,
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  Speaker 2: not just the ones that you like. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's strange that they're going to sell these if
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  Speaker 2: that's really what they're doing, they're gonna sell these pieces separate.
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  Speaker 5: I had to look that up a couple of times
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  Speaker 5: to make sure that I was right about that, that
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  Speaker 5: they're selling it set there. But you can see it
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  Speaker 5: that right there compared to a Spock figure. How big
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  Speaker 5: this thing is just each section? Yeah, and you have
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  Speaker 5: to remember their figures are seven inches, so that's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be a massive, massive things. So I get why they
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  Speaker 5: didn't just throw it in with with an actual figure.
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  Speaker 5: It's too expensive, you know, Yeah, but you're yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like you're gonna run into a situation then where
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  Speaker 2: you know the captain Captain's chair is going to sell
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  Speaker 2: out right now. Yeah, but the whatever, the Science station too,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have a million. They're gonna have a million.
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  Speaker 5: Of them, right right. For sure. I thought about that too,
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  Speaker 5: because everyone's gonna want the Captain Chair and get their
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  Speaker 5: Kirk and that now you're done, you don't need anything else,
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  Speaker 5: you know. But you know there are completionists out there
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  Speaker 5: who will want the whole thing and it'll be it's
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  Speaker 5: what a twelve part set or thirteen perd set, something
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  Speaker 5: like that, twelve So yeah, even like the bridge right
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  Speaker 5: there is its own thing and then the Captain Chair
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  Speaker 5: is all by itself. So don't know the prices yet
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  Speaker 5: on these things, but they're supposed to be. They're saying
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  Speaker 5: if all goes well, and you know, Nacell has had
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  Speaker 5: some issues with getting things released, they've had some issues,
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  Speaker 5: but they're trying. If all goes well, you should be
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  Speaker 5: able to complete the whole bridge by the end of
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  Speaker 5: the year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'll tell you just from personal experience, some
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  Speaker 2: people are going to be a little gun shy on this. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So around two thousand and two when Enterprise came out,
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  Speaker 2: art Asylum did seven inch and Enterprise figures and you
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  Speaker 2: can get the regular figure or you can get it
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  Speaker 2: de luxe where it came with the section of the bridge,
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  Speaker 2: and the idea was eventually you'll be able to build
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  Speaker 2: the whole bridge.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I remember this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They never finished it, right, so it was impossible. So
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  Speaker 2: you have people who shelled out a few hundred bucks
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  Speaker 2: and they had sixty percent of a bridge or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, fifty percent of a crew. Because
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  Speaker 2: there were people that never never came out. They never
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  Speaker 2: did They never did Hoshi in her uniform, they never
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  Speaker 2: did doctor Flox. They did both of them in the
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  Speaker 2: like environmental suit, but not in their regular starfleet uniform.
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  Speaker 2: One of them, I think, I think Trip Trip came
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  Speaker 2: out in his bridge uniform, but it was an exclusive.
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  Speaker 2: You had to order it through a different retailer or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was a mess. It was a mess.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, you gotta have the space to
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  Speaker 2: display something like that.
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  Speaker 5: That's the other thing too.
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  Speaker 2: Look, look I love it. I love in front of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: three by I'm sitting in front of a three by
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  Speaker 2: three card table. I'm like, I don't know, this might
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  Speaker 2: take up the whole table.
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  Speaker 5: See, And I was about to ask you, are you
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  Speaker 5: going to buy this thing?
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  Speaker 2: No? Absolutely not No, No, I have a I have
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  Speaker 2: I have a nineteen eighty five g I Joe Uss
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  Speaker 2: flag aircraft CA. Oh wow, it's it's seven feet long.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's taller than you.
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  Speaker 2: It's a coffee table. Yeah, it's in my storage unit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anywhere to put it. I won't part
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  Speaker 2: with it because you know, they're they're few and far between,
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  Speaker 2: and they just keep going up in price. And someday
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  Speaker 2: I would like to have somewhere in my house that
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  Speaker 2: is not the living room to display something like that,
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  Speaker 2: but right now that's not the case.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a TNG bridge set from nineteen ninety three.
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  Speaker 2: It's in a box. It's storage because ever pleased to
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  Speaker 2: put it? So right My Proton packs right over there though.
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  Speaker 5: That's cool. Yeah, I I so like. I love Voltron.
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  Speaker 5: I love collecting the Vultron toys. And they just announced
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  Speaker 5: that they're going to make new Voltrons for the for
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  Speaker 5: the upcoming movie. Oh there it is nice? Yeah, yeah, nice, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead Vultron.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so they're gonna come out with new toys
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  Speaker 5: and I'm already driating, Like where am I gonna put
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  Speaker 5: these things. Yeah yeah, So all right, so that's that
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  Speaker 5: new story. Our next news story comes to us from
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  Speaker 5: slash film. Actually, the next two stories come to us
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  Speaker 5: from slash Film, but this first one it's kind of
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  Speaker 5: interesting because we'll get into it a little bit later.
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  Speaker 5: As far as the episode, but apparently Starfleet Academy episode
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  Speaker 5: five has kind of removed a Star Trek comic book
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  Speaker 5: from official cannon. There's the current storyline or just finish
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  Speaker 5: up something like that where they did a storyline where
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  Speaker 5: Cisco has returned and what does that mean for DS
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  Speaker 5: nine He's got to go on a mission for the profits.
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  Speaker 5: And so because of episode five of the slatest episode
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  Speaker 5: where they pretty much say that Cisco never returned, that
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  Speaker 5: kind of ruins the comic book.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, there that read the comics.
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  Speaker 5: You know, these comics are extremely popular. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if they're like Marvel and DC popular, but they are popular.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody in the chat read the comics, I'd be curious
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  Speaker 4: to know.
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  Speaker 5: I would be curious about that too. Maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'll try to find the comic book sale in the
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  Speaker 5: numbers for next episode. Maybe I can see comparatively where
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  Speaker 5: they're at That would be an interesting thing, all right. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: and then the last news story comes to us, also
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  Speaker 5: from Slash Film, and this will be a nice dovetail
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  Speaker 5: to uh when we get to our big discussion. But
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw it or missed it,
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  Speaker 5: but there was a giant easter egg in the latest
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  Speaker 5: episode and one of the producers I forget who it was.
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  Speaker 5: They basically said that if you look up at the
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  Speaker 5: clouds at the end of the episode, you will see
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  Speaker 5: a giant easter egg. Dan is naughty. You must have
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  Speaker 5: caught it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can just just about make out the
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  Speaker 2: face of Benjamin Cisco.
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  Speaker 5: The polls, right, yes, so yeah, if you miss that
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  Speaker 5: right at the end of the episode when they when
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  Speaker 5: they have the voice over and the clouds look in
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  Speaker 5: the clouds like like Mufasa in The Lion King, you
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  Speaker 5: will see him in the clouds.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: He's right there.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just say for a minute, yeah, sorock lofton
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  Speaker 2: twenty six rock Lofton, if they were to make a
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  Speaker 2: Deep Space nine season eight right now, he could play
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin Cisco. Yeah, I would buy it. Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 2: buy him as Benjamin Cisco.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy how similar look. Yeah, and they're not
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  Speaker 5: related in real.
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  Speaker 2: Life, no, right, no, And I don't know if he
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  Speaker 2: normally shaves his head or if that's something he did
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  Speaker 2: for the for the part to kind of show he
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  Speaker 2: was falling in his father's footsteps, but you know he
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  Speaker 2: looks like him. Yeah, i'd buy it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. So yeah, so that's all the news stories. Well,
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  Speaker 5: should we get to the main topic? Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: fun will now come out, all right, So our main
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  Speaker 5: topic is reviewing the latest episode of Starfleet Academy, episode five.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know the name of the episode.
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  Speaker 4: But serious acclamation mill.
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  Speaker 5: There you go, there you go. So we're very clearly
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  Speaker 5: doing episodes about each individual main cadet, and this time
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  Speaker 5: it was Sam's term, so we're doing an episode on her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: These photos are gonna be out of order too, because
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  Speaker 5: Paramount does not release them in order, and I don't
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  Speaker 5: I don't care to try to figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm out of order. You're out of order. This
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  Speaker 2: whole show's out of order.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. So ah, what did you guys think?
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  Speaker 5: Did you like it? Did you not?
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  Speaker 4: I liked this episode?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I did, Okay, it was.
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  Speaker 3: Fan service, and I don't care, and I'm not sna
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  Speaker 3: apologize for liking it, Okay, I uh I when I
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  Speaker 3: you know, when I when I when I saw Sarrock
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  Speaker 3: lofton huh you know I you know, it brought a
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  Speaker 3: tear to my eye when I heard the theme. It
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  Speaker 3: brought a tear to my eye when I when when
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: it was revealed who it was, Dax, it brought a
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: tear to my eye when I heard Averybrook's voice over.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: You know, it brought me back and it was nostalgia.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: And I don't care if it was fan service. It's
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: still like I said, it was nostalgic and it I
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: have a deep, deep love for Deep Face nine.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: And uh you know it was it was.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Her, And I go, uh, wait a minute, is I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: looking at the actress that played the Cardassi and I'm like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: wait a.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Minute, is that is that tawny news? So oh yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: my wife looks it up. She goes, yeah, well.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: And then uh my uh my wife did oh. I
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: was so mad at my wife and she she admitted
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: halfway like it wasn't halfway through the episodes. Towards the
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: end of the episode, I'm like, is that Tawny Newsome?
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: And so she starts, she gets on her phone and
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I hadn't figured anything out yet, yeah, and uh yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: there she is and she goes, yeah, she's playing blah
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: blah blah Dax and I.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Go, oh, you just ruined it for me.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Oh so yeah, so we're getting a divorce and uh
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: oh wow, No, I'm kidding. I forgave her. I forgave her.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought a spoiler alert if you haven't
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: seen the episode, I thought that was interesting.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I know a lot of people are gonna be pissed
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: off about that, but whatever. Dez brought up a good
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: point though, how long do the Symbians live?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Not this long?
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: You don't think so?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: No, no, why not? I was established in Deep Space nine.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: They live several hundred years. This is thousands of years
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: at this point.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Well in the Daks, I mean, is already three hundred
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: years old by the time we get to Deep Space
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: nine too.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Am I wrong in thinking the Dax to be? Didn't
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: it pop up also in Discovery? Wasn't that like one
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: of the Symbians helping out Gray or one of the I.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Don't know, I don't I don't remember. But while, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: while we're talking about that. Yeah, this woman here who's
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: on screen. She she is Dax, Yes, okay, which means
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: she is a member of the House of Martalk. The
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Klingons were facing extinction last episode, and we have a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: member of the House of Martalk stationed right here where
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: this show takes place. Yes, And she's not involved in
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that at all.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Doesn't have anything to say to help out.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing, nothing. Yeah, you know, even if we just
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: learned the fate of the House of Martin, is the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: House of Martalk one of these eight houses that's still left?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Did the house? Is she the last? Is she the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: last of the House of Mark?
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Talk?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Now, I know she doesn't get revealed until the end
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: of this episode, but you know, maybe these two episodes
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: should have been flip flopped. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I wish she had been walking around earlier in the series.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I wish they'd you know, I wish she had been
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: part of the series earlier.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: I wonder if she if she even shows up the
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: rest of the series, they're just gonna drop Dax say
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: she's there, and probably.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: This episode, right, Tonnie Newsome.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Right, But.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: My my big problem with it that I just I
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: couldn't get past for me was okay, So Sam is
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: the whole premise is Sam is a holographic uh synthetic
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: life form, and she is supposed to be some sort
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: of emissary or ambassador for her people. She's supposed to
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: learn about the organics and report back to her people
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: and tell them whether or not it's safe to to
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: be reintegrity with them.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: But you have the doctor, who himself is a holographic
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: being who has lived among them for hundreds of years one, okay.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Who who who has made contact with other photonic beings
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: exactly right, and we're just going to ignore that he's
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: having you know, he's having dinner with the with the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: captain while she makes an ass of of the other
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: chancellor for no, for no other reason other than comic relief. Right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: So I get you don't want to make those two
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: worlds collide, but you need to acknowledge that because it's
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: gonna drive people nuts. It did for me, Like I
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: couldn't even lock into this episode at all because I
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: kept thinking, well, just talk to the doctor. Even at
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: the very least It's like, look, I know you don't
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: want to talk to those people. But your photonic, what
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: do you suggest I do something something you know you couldn't.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: There's a lot that doesn't make sense. She's there because
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: they don't trust She's there because they don't trust biologics, right, right,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that's what they call them, biologics. Yes, yet we witness
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: a biologic with the ability to just access her systems
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: that's the other one and change her program. Yes, how
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: is that even allowed?
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: The other thing is okay, so you're a society who
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: does not trust these people, so you send a kid
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: like you don't just send I don't know an adult
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: or have an actual ambassador like, I'm not part of
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: you guys at all. We're just trying to get to
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: tell you people.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know it makes no sense, and you know
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: what and again, all right, so this is what I'm
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: talking about. This is what I'm talking about. Had they
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: sat down and talked about these things and had a
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: table read, there is a way to make this make
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: perfect sense. Right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: That's she.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Is the child of the ambassador. Yes, and while he
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: is on Earth doing his ambassador stuff, she is attending
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Starfleet Academy and she's not reporting back to them. She's
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: reporting back to him, and he is reporting back to them.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He's reporting the stuff that he encounters as an ambassador
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: when everyone is on their best behavior, trying to put
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: their best face forward and sell everything to him. And
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: he's coming back to her saying, you know what happened
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: with my friends today, Dad, My friends did this and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: my friends did that, and because of that, I learned this,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that and the other thing. So he's taking what they're
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: showing him and what she's bringing to him, and that's
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: what he's reporting back. This is what the biologics want
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: us to know. This is what we found out. That
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: would make so much more sense, it would be so
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: much more interesting. Instead we you know, we get this.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah. The other thing too, is okay. So at one
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: point they show her point of view and she's reading
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: everybody like the terminator, like she can you know, scan
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: them and all that. Okay, why doesn't the doctor have
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: that ability. It's been a thousand years. There wasn't an
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: upgrade he could do to make him a better doctor
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and not need you know, a medical transer tricorder and
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: you know, like yeah.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just but it was cool seeing Jake. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: was happy to see Jake.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Jake.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I was happy to see Jake. But at the same time,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: you know this wasn't Jake, right, this was well, we
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: don't even know what it was. Jake wrote a leatherbound
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: book and she reads it, and now she has this
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: moment where she's talking to him but we don't but
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: we don't know Jake.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: There was a There was the holographic representation of Jake
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: from the museum, which was a which was the museum
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: itself was a holographic representation because I was.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: But later, but later she's interacting with him and.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I asure you, if kail me are wanted to mess
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: with my internals, I would also say yes.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's easy on the eyes.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: So she says to him, hey, sis, which says to me,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: he's also a hologram, right, okay, And she asks him
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: are you real, which means she doesn't know if he's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a hologram or not or or and he says do
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you want me to be? And then later she says,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: will you disappear when I closed this book? And he says,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I thought you were controlling all of this, So this
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: is all happening in her mind from yeah, I was
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: confused by this from yeah it is. It is confusing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: But my point is, you know, this wasn't real Jake.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: This was hollow Jake or imaginary Jake. But at the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: same time, if this series was set in the twenty
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: fifth century instead of the thirty second century, could have
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: been real Jake. We could have had real Jake, we
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: could have had real Dacks. But we didn't get that
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: right at this.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's God, there's so many like it's so
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: close to like it could be good.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: But then but yes, but then there's things that are
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: just one thousand percent stupid. Yeah, like this guy, this
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: guy puke and glitter, what the hell is that?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I don't like that either? Uh, the bombic glitter that
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: that that was weird.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: That he's like, this would be wacky, to be wacky?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And did they did they? Did? They just admit that
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the entire but youring belief system is nonsense. Yeah, okay,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: And and you might think you know what I'm talking about,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: But there's two reasons I'm saying that she walks in
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and basically ships all over there.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: There right in a church version of.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah okay, But also the guy who greets her, he
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: puts his hand on her ear or a holographic representation
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: of her ear, and then proceeds to tell her her
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: paw is strong. What exactly are you sensing? Yeah, she's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: not real? So does that mean that that was never real?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: That's just that's just a greeting. I'm gonna grab you
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: by the ear and tell you it's gotta be because
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: at this point it's it's nothing. They're sensing nothing.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did like what she she grabbed his ear back.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: It's like, no, no, no, that's that's not how it works.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: You know. It also hit me this episode is because
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: they do the whole subplot about well they won't they
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: with with Mirror and the Beta's head girl, right and
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: they're naking out at the bar and all that. But
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: you know, Mirror is supposed to be like obsessed with
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: finding his mom, and it's been five episodes now apparently
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: we don't care, like you don't. He never mentions it, really,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: he's never like trying to do anything that's gonna be
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: the cliffhanger.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna get a he's gonna get an ICQ
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: message from his mom.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. But like his girlfriend there, her dad
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: runs Beta's head, right, Yeah, you don't want to ask
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: your girlfriend like, hey, does your dad maybe have any
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: hints on my mind? At least you know, Like I I,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: it's you can't just leave these things hanging and not
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: let the audience have those answers. That's not how It's
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: not true to the characters. Yeah, but so I imagine
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: the next episode will be a Genesis episode and we
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: hear what her backstory or.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Her backstory is. She does what nintend don't that's right.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Her in Miles that the little two tailed a rabbit thing.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Are you gonna just go up and adventure?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Say one? Say one nice thing, one nice thing.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I like this. I like the voiceover at the end.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, that was the that was taken from a jazz
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: album that he did. Yeah, got Scott, one thing nice.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I liked the episode. I was I nostalgia cry during
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: most of it. I I I liked it. There's a
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: few things that I didn't like. I didn't like the
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: vomit glitter. I thought I thought twelve shots was a
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: little too much. Yeah, but uh, I kind of envied
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the fact that she could go from twelve shots to
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: zero shots.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, you could have done something funny with like
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: she does eleven and he goes this thing goes to
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: eleven and you know, yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the items on display. Okay, So I
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: got confused with the ORB. I'm like, wait a minute,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: how is this there's an ORB there? And then I realized, oh,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: it's a museum. It's actually a holographic museum. R Then
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I got confused, why is there a typewriter there? That
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: was Benny Cisco's typewriter. That typewriter should not exist.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Doesn't exist, right, Yeah, but it's real.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It's real.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: It's real that typewriter should not exist. And but a
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: few other things in there. Oh the I like the
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: uh you notice the hat that I'm wearing?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Is there was that?
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: That hat was in there?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: But yeah, his typewriter and glasses from Far Beyond the Stars.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I'm looking up a couple other things, baseball glove and
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: uh the Willie Mays baseball.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Card it smells like bubble gum.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah from uh the one that Jake got him in
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the in the cards and then the one of the orbs.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I liked the episode. I it was so
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: for me. It was my favorite episode of the series
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: so far.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So awaiting Game says I don't recall as
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: well as I wish, But doesn't the ending of d
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: S nine verify that the prophets are real Sansisca joins
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: the prophets.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it was never it was
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: never in dispute whether they're real. Yes, it's whether they're
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: gods or are they aliens? Worm whole aliens? You know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: is Cua god or see an alien? It's, you know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the same same thing.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: I will say this since the beginning, I've had a
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: hard time with the Sam character. I just those overly
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: enthusiastic Pollyanna, you know, super cheerful characters. I've never connected
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: with those types. It's one of the reasons why I
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: don't like anime. It's a very anime character. So I
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: get why they put it in this show because they're
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: targeting youth, and for sure they read the demographics and
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh, the teens love their anime, let's do that,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, So I get why she's there, but
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: it's just I just do not connect with those kinds
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: of characters.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So I did like the use of the theremon. Yes, yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: even though everybody thinks the TOS theme song was originally
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: performed on a theremon, and it was not. It is.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It is often covered using a theremon, but it was not.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It was not made with a theremon. But you listen
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: to a theremon and man, the TS theme is made
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: for this instrument.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that's funny. But I bring up that I
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: don't like the cheerful character, and Blah was like I
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: love Sam and uh a tree. He was like, two
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: darn cheerful. So I mean that's what It's a divisive character.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: That's fine, you know people. Yeah, but yeah, it was
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: cool to see after the fact that sarrock Laften started
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: posting all these behind the scenes pictures of him being
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: there and he looks really happy to be there. That's cool.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: I'm sure on his podcast we'll be talking about it,
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I spotted Jaden wearing a skirt. Yes, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: then I went on, what is it, Gronk, is that
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the AI generator?
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: That's one of it? Yeah?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and I took I took one of
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Wharf's nine inch action figures and asked Gronk to put
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: him in a skirt, just just for fun. Yeah, and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: it was fun. And then I'm like, all right, put
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: him in a party dress. All right, put him in this,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: put him in there. And I just started selectical because
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: it was amazed at how how quickly and easily, you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it would put him in different outfits. And you know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I'm chuckling to myself because I'm I'm imagining Wharf as
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: like the next generation Barbie Doll. So there's a police war.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Wait, you made your own makeover machine.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I did. I did, so I'm gonna post. I'm gonna
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: post the pictures to the Facebook. But there's Wharf, Wharf
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: in a bikini. There's there's Wharf in a field hockey uniforms,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Wharf as a doctor, Wharf is a postal worker.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: So girl scout.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't do a girl scout. You know, I might.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I might go back and make a few more.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: That reminds me of that d Phase nine episode where
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: they all go to Riza and Wharf is standing there
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: holding the swim suit that jod Ziya gives him.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I do have more in a bikini.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: We never got to see him actually wearing that. We
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: need to see a picture of him actually wearing that speedo.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Make it happen. I'm on it. We don't.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Let's let's ask the chat if they want Warf in
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: the speedo.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah za, yeah, I mean standing next to John Zia
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: in her in her one piece.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Everybody gets what they want, all right.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: All right? I got wharf Wharf in a burka. Wharf
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: is a Catholic bishop. Oh god, oh no, it was
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: an equal opportunity.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, opportunity.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: Why not suit?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and before I post it, I'm gonna go back and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a few more.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Batman wharf.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I already have a green lantern and a wonder woman. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: super war I have him as a chef.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: And you know what, here's and here's the thing. Okay,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: so AI is scary? Yeah, the one where I said
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: put him in a in a soccer uniform. You know
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: what numbers on his chest? Forty seven? Forty seven?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Yep?
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Really wow? I didn't tell to do that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Yep. It knows.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Warping a Trek cash shirt.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Doing it? Yeah?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Oh God, to tray you with the deep cut post
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Warf in the speedo. But to tray you said, sure,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: speedo warf will make the calendar. Check that down there.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: God damn, we have not talked about that in forever.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: No, it's been a while.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but maybe next year. This is a trek gass calendar.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: Oh man, this poor guy, that the college guy. Uh yep, yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: he's just there to be shipped on.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: You're growing on me. I'm starting to like him. Okay,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to like him.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I still don't get the purpose of the war College.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: If they're all in the same facility, what's the difference? Yeah, yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: what are we doing?
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, aqua wharf.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: We're just gonna get a list of warfs. So, uh, dan,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: what's your nice thing about the episode the Theremon, the
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Theremond Okay, yeah.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Yep, all right, yeah, but like the Theremid.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: All right, well, it feels like, oh god.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: He warf, he warf. So that that reminds me. I
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: do want to do a show this summer.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I want to cover Masters of the Universe from nineteen
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: eighty seven.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: The reason why I want to cover Masters of the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Universe from nineteen eighty seven, don't do it is because
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: don't don't do it, because my buddy Robbie Duncan McNeil.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Robbie's in it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, boy, yeah, my boy was blown up.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to cover that for an episode
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: of Trek Cast, all.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Right, and then and then throw it down.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: And then we can then we can go and watch
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: the new movie.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: I mean we could do it before the movie. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: that that's possible.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: We should do it like right before the new movie.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, that's when you do it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: So watch the movie is like a palette, so the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: old so the old one is fresh in your mind
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: when you watch the new one.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and how much better it's going to be. It
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: looks like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm so excited for.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited for it too. And you know, similar
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: to this fandom. I mean, there are people that that
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: hate it, the new one. They hate it already, Yeah
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: they have, they haven't even at least I've seen this
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: and I hate it.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Fair. At least you experienced it and you were like, yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: No, good, at least they got the sword right.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: They got the sword right, so yeah, after that they
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: can I mean, get the sword right.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: You could take creative license with just about anything else.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Dan, did you see that they're starting to sell the sword,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: like big foam versions of the sword.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: That is actually from a few years ago. I think
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: they're doing a new run on it. It was a
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: few years back, about ten years ago. You can find
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: that at the Halloween store.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Oh nice. Yeah, I'm gonna have to get it. I
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: need the sword. So all right, Well should we get
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: to listener feedback? Sure, listener feedback?
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: All right, jas Bis says he's on a trip. He'll
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: see us next week.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: That's right. Well, if anyone wants to join us on
• 42:00
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• 42:02
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• 42:05
  Speaker 5: do have some voicemails, but before we get to them,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: I just want to say you can leave us a
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: voicemail at five seven zero six six one zero zero
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: zero one. That's five seven zero six six one zero
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: zero zero one. And yeah, we got a lot, so
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: let's let's start with those.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: Want to track cast. Yeah, I got a theory. And
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: why Academy is kind of a low budget. Well I
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: won't say you say a little budget by why the
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: writing is subpart? Okay, Like you said from the burn
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: that these kids are being isolated, so that's why this
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: new class isn't the best of the best, so they're
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: acclimated to the burn. Very similar to when we went
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: through the pandemic, people sort of stayed inside and didn't
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: couldn't get out much and educational. So that's why I'm
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: thinking that's what happened to the writers for Starfleet Academy
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: and why everything's like twenty twenty six. Also, as a note,
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: back in the sixties, the the producers were like star
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: treks to Cerebral for from of the Autist, and so
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: they had to double down a little bit. It took
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: sixty years, but they got it. So unfortunately, we don't
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: have the.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: The what.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Oh I got off there. Oh that's why.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: All right, let's do let's do mad lips. We don't
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: have the what go yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why we don't have the burn, the the
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Liveyon crystals.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know, man, all right, we'll got
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: go sexual desire.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Sexual desire. Oh, it's always strong.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a first contact and say we don't
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: have the time to argue about time.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Nice nice, yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: But either way, thanks thanks for the call, thanks for
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the message.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, we got another one. Let's play
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: this one. Here we go.
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: Hey, what's up?
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: Check cast? This is Nick from California. I just wanted
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: to mention the mccardo Monto one. He actually was in
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: the convention in two thousand and nine. Why gott you
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: give one thousand and one in Pasadena. It was a
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: Grand Slam nine convention. My sister took me to it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: Uh and uh he went up on stage, was on
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: stage with him.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: He's in a wheelchair.
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: They're making jokes.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: He was like.
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: A anyway, he was a great podcast and uh talk
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: you guys too, all right.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Nice, nice, all right, So I stand appreciate it.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: H I stand corrected. Riccardo mont Ubon did a few,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Uh did a few conventions. It's good to know. It's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: good to know that that, you know, some of the
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: fans got to actually see him in that in that way.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's very cool. And then our last one
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: comes to us from Tim. So you're a girls.
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: Uh the fifth episode of this atrocious Abomination.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Star Trek show.
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: I'll read through my notes. So the first thing I
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: wrote down is this this Sam thinks she's another Emirus emissary.
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: And all the way through the show, I was like,
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: get those words out of your filthy mouth? How dare
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: you compare yourself to the Cisco? And another thing that
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: really annoyed me and I couldn't stop thinking about it
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: throughout the show was this I can't remember his name,
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: but he was talking about heating the ocean because of
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: these eels, heating all the water in the Yeah, what
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: could possibly go wrong?
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, do they not?
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Are they so dumb that they.
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: Don't think about heating the ocean and the damage you
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: could do to all the other wildlife there. It's painful.
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: It's really painful. This show, the whole fish ritual thing
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: where they were dancing and singing. I could I could
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: almost not watch it. It was unwatchable. Every week I watch this,
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: I think of future Star Trek cons. Will anybody ever
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: go to a Star Trek con dressed as any of
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: these characters? I don't like any of them. I can't
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: stand them. This show gets worse as the weeks go on.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: Why didn't what's her name have a hangover? When she
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: had all of those drinks? See, that would have been
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: funny if they've given her a hangover. It's all very well,
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: having all the drinks and everything, but give her a
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: hangover as well. As I say, I don't like any
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: of them. This show is awful. I'm watching it for
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: comedy value now and it just gets worse and worse,
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: and there are no redeeming features about it now. I
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: don't even think it looks that great now with all
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: the lens flair and everything. The best thing about this
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: show is that I get to send in a recording
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: every week and listen to you boys and that note
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: I shall leave you, have a great day, love you lots, bye.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: So there you go.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, So tell me if you picked up on this.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: When she says that the Cisco is so revered, they
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: don't even have pictures of him. Yeah, anymore, they don't
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: show pictures of him. Did that, say Mohammed?
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I thought that too, Like that's definitely where
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: they got that inspiration, for sure. I think the other
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: inspiration was like, we don't want to pay for his likeness,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: but then they put him in the clouds, you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't know. I don't know what they're
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: doing there. But we also have a couple of people
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: on the line, so let's uh, let's get your arch
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: nemesis Scott, he's back weaker beard and so yeah, yeah
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: I like it.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Welcome back.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, nice to get for a week.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: The weak beard than a strong beard collide? How much
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: energy is released? And can you can you power a
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: starship with it?
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Is it like?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Is it like a mat yeah? To control the Yeah?
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you need a you need a beard field. It
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: contains like I.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: Feel like a beard field is like a wing stop.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of beard.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I think, like, yeah, special.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just picturing somebody tapping tapping the consoles the beard.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: The beardfield is collapsing.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: You bember, what you think?
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Did you like it?
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Did you not? I?
• 48:46
  Speaker 10: I enjoyed Miss Marvel okay, And that's how this felt. Yeah,
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: it's like just a stylization and everything. But it was
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: actually the first episode that I actually realized there was
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: an A plot, B plot and you and I think
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: a C plot, which was It felt like a real
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: episode for once, not like a more serialized It feels
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: like this one could just PLoP it in anywhere. To
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: Dan's point about they should have probably had this one
• 49:11
  Speaker 10: after the Klingon episode, but up until I found out
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: about the comics, I thought that they didn't. This is
• 49:19
  Speaker 10: the first episode where they didn't care or destroy or
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: reboot or undo something from Old Trek. They left Cisco
• 49:28
  Speaker 10: like like the Mystery of Where He Went and didn't
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: try to change it and red con it. I know
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: the comics did a lot, but yeah, it felt like
• 49:38
  Speaker 10: they actually kind of tried to honor it rather than
• 49:43
  Speaker 10: try to make it their own or destroy it or something.
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: And that's the one thing I liked about.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: And it was.
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: Funny because I totally didn't pick up that Tawny Newsome.
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: Well I knew it was Tony Newsome, but I ain't
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: pick up the character that she was a Cardassian or
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: a Cardassian hybrid until the very end when she revealed
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: the trill spots and then I turned and she turned around.
• 50:05
  Speaker 10: Oh oh oh, so that was kind of a cool review.
• 50:09
  Speaker 10: But yeah, I totally didn't pick up on that the
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: whole time because all that was distracted was Hey, that's Tony.
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: Newsome alien Alien of the Week makeup.
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: So I don't know, maybe it was the way her
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: hair was kind of covering the forehead ridge a little
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: bit so you couldn't really tell, and then the color
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: was off, so hmm, yeah, but yeah, I think it was.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: A little too big. But other than that, yeah.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Was that racist to say to say spoon Ridge, It
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: wasn't even noticeable to me because.
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think for me, it's like when I see Cardassis,
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: because she had everything covered up.
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: What do you call those like the neck?
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that was always a big giveaway because they
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: never could fit in like a normal uniform because they
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: would always stick out so much.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: So, but I wonder if she could do the Cardassian,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: which is what we've never seen it.
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: I know, Yeah, oh gosh, don't don't. They're gonna put
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: it in season two for just to kill it. Yeah,
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: that we probably should have seen. There was one issue
• 51:14
  Speaker 10: I had though, is with and this is the whole
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: photonic thing, is when Sam's talking to her, I don't
• 51:21
  Speaker 10: know whatever you call overlords or whatever.
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: Why why was it like, yeah.
• 51:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the KALs, That's exactly what I was thinking of,
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: Like they stole this story from the Ple, But why
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: was it like this non corporeal light source, they're photonics.
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: I would rather have seen her what's the okay something
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: what her species looked like or was programmed to look
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: like by their creators.
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: That would have been more realistic.
• 51:47
  Speaker 10: But they're making it seem like she's a non corporeal
• 51:51
  Speaker 10: being like a organian or something as opposed to a photonic.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: And that's the part of because because when her bosses
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: are in the Great Link, that's how they exist. They
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: exist as one big, non non.
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: Sh shape ones in Zero's or.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: You watched uh, you watch Prodigy, right, yeah, when there
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: one of the yeah Zero, she.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: Was contained in the still Yeah.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, wasn't that what she looked like when when she
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: was out of it?
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
• 52:24
  Speaker 10: And that's what threw me off because I'm like, are
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: they saying that these photonics are actually non corporeal all
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: of a sudden now they invaulved or are they actually still?
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: And I don't know if that's why they can say
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: that she can do things that the doctor can. Yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: it's throwing me off a bit, and it feels like
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: they haven't fully defined what she really is as a
• 52:50
  Speaker 10: photonic or what a photonic really is, especially when you
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: hit the doctor like right there, yeah, and he's still
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: dealing with trauma.
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: Too, It's oh, yeah, for sure they hold on that
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: thread more.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one question. Are we going to get
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: a Doctor episode where we're actually going to see some
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: of this.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: I think we are.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I hope so, because Yeah, that's probably one of the
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: few threads they have going right now that I'm actually
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: curious about and actually interested in seeing.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: He's going to have a drink with that one kid
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: and they're going to talk about their lives and then
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: that kid's gonna throw up glitter.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Oh God, that was so stupid.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah n at that point.
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I hope they don't with that episode though.
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: I hope they don't just solve it there, because that
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: would just be too soon, too quick, Like thousands of
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: years of trauma and this one kid solves it in
• 53:44
  Speaker 10: one episode, Like that's that should be a lingering thing
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: that they pulled through the whole series. I don't know,
• 53:52
  Speaker 10: two years we'll see.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if the reason he likes the Chancellor
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: it is because she's a Lantheonite and he's While he
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: will probably outlive her, also it won't be it'll take
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: a lot longer, Like maybe he's attaching himself to longer
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: lived beings because he's experienced so much loss over the years.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: He's outlived so many of his of his friends.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but if.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: He's that hurt and that bitter. Why is he still
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: in Surfleet. Why isn't he off somewhere else away from
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: people because he doesn't want to deal.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: With because the happiest moments of his life were when
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: he was in Starfleet. That's why. Yeah, because even though
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: even though the people are no longer constant, the mission
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: is always the same.
• 54:53
  Speaker 10: I wonder if they're going to pull that deep cut
• 54:55
  Speaker 10: of that episode in Voyager where he he was trying
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: to deal survivor's guilt and they they deleted that part
• 55:02
  Speaker 10: of his code and through a spiral, and it feels
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: like that's kind of similar things where they just have
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: to leave him like running, just to kind of get
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: over and process it, and it feels like that's still
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: something where he still has to deal, which is I think,
• 55:18
  Speaker 10: you know, when we think about artificial life forms and
• 55:21
  Speaker 10: everything and trying to be more human and that's aspect.
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: I think they're succeeding in that kind of writing to
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: do that. But yeah, it's interesting to see if they
• 55:30
  Speaker 10: even know that episode kind of like how they don't
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: realize that that's as part of the House of bar talk.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like if they are going to do
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: a Doctor episode in academy, they are going to have
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: to go back to a specific episode of Voyager, to
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: a specific you know, type of plot point with the doctor,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: and and go on that.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: When they eventually do the Doctor episode, which boy Woyager
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: cast members coming back to the cameo.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I was just thinking to myself when they
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: do this, they could do a series of flashbacks and
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: you know all of them.
• 56:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's gonna be the Yeah, but they can only
• 56:23
  Speaker 10: do it one of two ways.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: It can only be flashbacks from previously done footage from
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Voyager or from the twenty fifth century.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm talking about. Okay, So I'm not
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: interested in I'm not interested in the clips episode.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: I know, it's like.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Remember that time one of the episodes and then they
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: just show.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Now twenty Yeah, hey, I would not be mad at
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: an episode where thirty or seventy percent of it takes
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: place in the twenty fifth century.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: That'd be great. You still got those card sets.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: You know. Even how would they do it? Though?
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: If the doctors could interact with they would have to
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: be heavily cg with the doctor because he didn't you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: he didn't change his appearance until.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't know when he changed disappearance.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: They said, oh okay, yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 10: I would want to see just pre burn, like what
• 57:22
  Speaker 10: was the peak of Starfleet right before the burn happened.
• 57:25
  Speaker 10: That'll be interesting to see if anything, But that's gonna
• 57:28
  Speaker 10: take too much resources to be able to show that.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, if they did a flashback to
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: the twenty fifth century and it still takes place at
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Starfleet Academy, you know who the chancellor.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: Is, right who?
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: It's Patrick Stewart.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's my weekly reminder of what we
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: could have had at this show. Can you make a
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: bumper for next week what we could have had?
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: And then you know, that sounds like great.
• 58:03
  Speaker 10: Jean Picard's School for Gifted star Fleet Officers. Yes, yes,
• 58:11
  Speaker 10: he's wearing a green uniform for some reason.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And his his chancellor is Jeane yeah yeah, and
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: his office is on is on deck ten, but it's
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: a Roman.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's always sitting in his chair yep.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: In his chair it floats him everywhere. Yeah, there's a
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: there's a class that talks you about risk. It's called
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: the Gambit.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they already already have the Danger Room we saw
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Yes they do. Oh god, it's perfect, all right. We
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: also have Insterstock waiting. So yeah, thanks Bear, very good.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see tourists too.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the trees once Bana.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: That's great, all right, Ax, who else do we want
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: to see? Uh? You know, we can see there's other
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: characters that we can see.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: We can see uh, you know, ancestral characters we can see.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: You know, Jake Cisco's great great great great grandchildren.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: Oh we can make them up.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kira's or anybody you know. Yeah, but Sheer O'Brien's.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see an O'Brien.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to see the O'Brien statue.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Though, I'd like to see the O'Brien statue. I'd like
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: to see you know who I'd like to see, And
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I've said it on the show many times, I would
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: like them to finally find the cryo container that Charles Tucker.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: The Third is in.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: They finally unthought him because he had they the last
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: time we saw him, he was going into a into
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: a stasis container and they never showed him dying or
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: coming out. So I think he's still in a cryo
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: chamber and he's still among.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: Us, you know, h Junior would be fun.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, I could do another Q episode.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: It's been a while.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, hiss Respark has been waiting for a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: long time. Very patient. Thank you for waiting, his respark.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: You're on.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Hello, guys, how are you doing good? There? Are you good?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a good idea for
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: them to do the twenty fifth century thing, because that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: would really remind the fans what they could have had,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: like what you said, so like that would be like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: that would be really suicidal for them. I would rather
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: have like, like you know, you know who would be great.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wan Makan cameo, oh yeah, and you know it's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: it's good for him to get a paycheck too, right,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Like I was happy that loft and got a paycheck
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: this week. You know, he's such a nice guy and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: then everything, so yeah that I mean, you know, usually
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I would be trying to trash that thing, but it's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: nice to see somebody that cool getting a paycheck.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, checks, paychecks are nice, and yeah, if anyone out
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: there wants to send us a paycheck, right because I
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: do this ship for free, my friends.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: There's one of the behind the scene photos of Rocket
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: Sam all together, so yeah, that's right, or guy just
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: randomly in the background like some probably right.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Speaking on Sam, I mean.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: They totally did her dirty by doing having all this
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: stuff happening and like, uh the first episode and her
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: being completely you know, ditsy and stuff, because you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I think if they wanted to do her correctly, it
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: would have been great if she was like really caring
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and really authentic and stuff like that, and you know,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: like really basically a Neelix like a person that that
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: would definitely grow on people, because you know with Neelix, Okay,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: he's a little annoying, but he knows the gamma quadrant.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: S more like Dato mm hmm, you know, naive but
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: capable mm hmm.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: And like, uh, I didn't watch the episode, but did
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: they have her drink anything green?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Didn't drink Yeah, yeah, she just download some shots. She
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: didn't actually drink anything.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: It would have been better if she dranks shots, you know,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: and then you know, drink something green and then say,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you know this is this is disgusting, but I like
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: it and it's green.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yeah, have have that, you know. Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: By the way, this this.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Episode, you know, it reminds me of this nineteen ninety
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: nine classic that goes, oh dad dress so scandalous. Tong
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: tong tongue tong right, yeah, so, you know because of
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: the party scene and and this song was sing by
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: a guy named Cisco.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: I get it. I get it, we got it, we
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: got it.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, yeah, yeah, okay, one one last thing. Rather
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: than commenting on the on the episode or the series
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: and stuff, I wanted to talk about March. Okay, is
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: it okay?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: But March March?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: March merch oh merch. Yeah yeah, that makes more sense. Yeah, yes,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: what are we planning for March? Guys like that?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Like I was thinking, like, you know, this four hundred
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: dollars like Lego set that was a totally missed opportunity
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: because if they had produced a set for like five
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: to ten dollars or even up to twenty dollars and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: it was like the Athena or like the Enterprise, and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: and then they released it around Christmas, that would have
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: been great stocking stuffers and it would be uh getting
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: an Enterprise into the hands of like tons of kids
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: and getting them like interested in Star Trek and having
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: their their dads or grandfathers explain the Star Trek universe
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: to their grandkids or their kids. And then that would
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: you know, revitalize the whole franchise.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's a lot of lifting for one Lego set.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: But maybe.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: You know, they could they kept like just the Enterprise,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the Bird to Prey and you know, all all these
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: other things.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if they're Yeah, for sure, that'd
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: be great, But I don't know if they're going to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: do a full line. I think that we're just getting
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: the Enterprise, but who knows.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I think got time.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would have been a lot better,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: and they would okay, it's they would make a lot
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: more money and you know, a lot more people would
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: be involved because you know, unless you're and then because
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of chech merchandise are overpriced and the and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the quality isn't that great, you know, with the exception
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: of Ego Moss those ships are amazing. Yeah, So I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: mean I think they could maybe up the temp, up
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the ante in that department.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I don't know if you heard earlier
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: in the show, but there's going to be a bridge
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: you can buy soon. So it's going to come in
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: all sorts of parts and it looks pretty big.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: But still that's big. Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: You want you want, you want as many people to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: to have access to it as possible at this point, not.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Able to get another storage in it.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't go for the you know, super big premium
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: stuff because that's I mean, if you guys can't can't
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: afford it, then it's too expensive.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well, I mean, for the record, it's not
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: that I can't afford it. Yeah, I don't know the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: space for it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, same with me.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: That's the issue, you know what I'm talking about.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that you need to be able to be part
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you want a lot more people to be
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: to participate.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: So here's the thing. You look at the Star Wars sets,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: and they will have the Millennium Falcon similar to that
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: enterprise that was put out, and then they will have
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: a smaller version of it that's more reasonably priced, and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: then they'll have one that's this big that you can't
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: put them any figure. And okay, but Star Wars has
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: a draw that Star Trek just does not have with children.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: So I think if they did those those little sets
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: like that, I think they'd be in the clearance aisle
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: after a while. And that's something else that you don't
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: want when your product is seen in the clearance aisle. Yeah,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: it sends a message that you know, this brand is
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: not viable.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they got to be careful with stuff like that. Yeah, okay,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: that's that's a fair point. But yeah, I just feel that.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to I love always wait
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: here in Europe, and I would love to have access
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: to a lot more trek merge, but it's nearly impossible
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: to get out here.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody goes and I can't afford it because I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: need to when to build and when to keep steal.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of people do that. I'm not.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not one of those people that has to keep
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: it in the original patch. For me, I want to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: touch it, I want to know my play with it.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. My problem.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I I not only opened
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: everything up, but I took everything apart too.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: I had the bridge set too, but.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: It's it's gone because I took it apart and it's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: in it's you know a part I have like one
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: side panel piece and then the rest is in landfills
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: the rest the other is in an attic that in
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: a house that got sold years ago at just a
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: different pieces.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: You read that, I'm reading it. I read it ahead.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: You read it.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: What kid wouldn't be reenacting measure of a man with
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Lego toys? Though?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my, exactly Yeah, yeah, what's the candle one? What's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: that one?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: That's great?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the ghost one?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: But you know, like a while back, a while back,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: there was a a company called Makeup Blocks and they
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: they had like they cling on uh like ship and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: they uh and the Enterprise and was like pretty reasonably
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: priced and stuff.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: So it's not like it's never been done.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: They didn't sell very well.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's like when they had the movies, like
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: arguably it was even.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: More well, no, you're you're talking about Creo, which was
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: which was has Hasbro's version of of Lego for a
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: while was Creo. And Megablocks is Mattel's version of Lego,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: which is which is still around. They the the he
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Man uh ones are all Megablocks, which is Mattel. All
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: the Halo stuff is Megablox, Call of Duty is Megablox,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Pokemon is is is Megablocks quality is great. Uh doesn't
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: have the same draw as Lego though, because there because
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the thing with Lego, there are people that will buy
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Legos because they love Star Wars, and there
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: are people who will buy them because they love Legos.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Lego itself has its own following.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, all right, all right, thank you guys, Yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thanks for being on.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: All right, you know it's approved. It's a proved that
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Lego has its own draw. You know, you can get
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Lego sets where it's a it's a thousand piece set
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: of a television. Yeah right, yeah, a potted play it,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: but it's made of Legos.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: I was reading about there are people who they will
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, they will buy the Lego sets when
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: they come out and just hold on to them for
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: a few years because they always go up in value
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: and they just resell them.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: Then that's crazy.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah So whatever, But all right, I guess before we
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: head out, you guys are ready for the super Bowl?
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: What's that? The superb Owl?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: The super Bowl? Yes, my favorite of the Owl. He's
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: got a tsy pop.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I have a little together over here.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: Oh nice, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I had to explain to my daughter why we're going
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: to Grandma's house later. What we're gonna watch the Super Bowl?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: Well, what is that?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a football game, but there's funny commercials and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: we have yummy snacks. She's like, oh, yeah, I couldn't
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: care less about the football, but no yummy snacks. What
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: kind of snacks, daddy. Yeah, they're gonna be tater tots, Daddy. Yo, honey,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: there will be tater tots. Oh yeah, I would I
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: would like to go to the Super Bowl, Daddy.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: We're having some friends over that.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: They don't watch football, but it's more about food and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: the fellowship and whatever.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't follow it. I don't know who's playing.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: We're supposed to get a Spider Man trailer. That's all
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: I care about.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: And that's and that's the thing I was saying to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: my son, what do you think we're gonna get? Oh,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: get Spider Man. Maybe we'll get an Avengers and Other
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Avengers teaser. We might get a longer Masters of the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Universe trailer.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: You know, we'll see they've announced the movies that it is,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: and I know for sure we're not getting an avengerous one.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: All right, well, thanks for ruining it for me, you know. Sorry,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: you can just let me have.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl viewers dropped by millions of people.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the lowest rated super Bowl.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: Now we're gonna be on the news thanks to trek Cast.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, we ruined it. All right?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: What's next week's episode?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know more, serf leat Academy, I don't as
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: anybody know. Nobody knows. Yeah, but it'll be on next week.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: I look it up. Oh you got it?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well, thanks everybody for listening. We'll catch
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: you next week.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: All right, bye.
• 1:13:54
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