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Logan Webb on Giants-Dodgers Rivalry, Wild All-Star Game Story with Mookie | On Base, Ep. 44 · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to on Base, presented by Guyico. Get More Baseball,
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  Speaker 1: Get More with Geico. I'm your host, Mookie Betts, and
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  Speaker 1: today we have a two time All Star and the
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  Speaker 1: Giants Ace and our first Giant on the show, Logan Web.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, Bro, I'm doing good man. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: thanks for coming on on the On the show, this
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  Speaker 1: is a different look. Usually it's the batter's box and
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  Speaker 1: then picture's mound. So now I'm glad to actually get
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  Speaker 1: in a comfortable setting with you, Bro.
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  Speaker 2: Yeh, I'm excited, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So first I want to start with a game that
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  Speaker 1: we play called on base off base. Whether you inter
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  Speaker 1: you're out. And so the first thing is there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: funnier than the fart. Are your on base or off base?
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  Speaker 1: With that? So tell me tell me about these situations
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  Speaker 1: because you were cracking up laughing. I mean there was
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  Speaker 1: a fart there. I guess I'm not sure. Wells, so
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  Speaker 1: what happened? I didn't get to see it?
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  Speaker 2: Uh with Nola, Yeah, I think it was just so
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  Speaker 2: much similar thing he was talking. It's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: way I was. I was just I was doing an interview.
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  Speaker 2: And I won't say the picture's name, but someone near
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  Speaker 2: me is let one loose, and uh, I just had
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  Speaker 2: to laugh. The worst part about it is we lost
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  Speaker 2: to that day. Oh I'm trying to keep it, trying
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  Speaker 2: to keep my cool, but it was It's hilarious. Man,
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  Speaker 2: it's really in the season too.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't. Yeah, I'll be It is hard because when
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  Speaker 1: you're in the clubhouse and like, you know, you're with
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  Speaker 1: these guys like everything, you know, everything kind of goes.
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  Speaker 1: And so he probably did it on purpose.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he lifted his leg as I'm like his corner.
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  Speaker 2: He lifted his leg and he did it twice too.
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  Speaker 2: The second one was a little louder, so I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I gotta laugh, and then all the reporters are laughing.
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  Speaker 1: To So it's funny. When something's funny, it's funny. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Okay, So next thing, Jesse Plemming's looks the
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  Speaker 1: most like you in game.
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  Speaker 2: Night, I'll probably say I'm basically.
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  Speaker 1: I don't so maybe I don't know who Jesse Plemming's
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  Speaker 1: no shape. Oh this guy's Jesse Plaming. Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I see it. Oh, I remember he was in for
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  Speaker 1: a long time to story, but yeah, that that looks
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  Speaker 1: like the guy from tour Story, the mean guy from
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  Speaker 1: tour Story or something like that. Yeah, okay, so this
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  Speaker 1: is that's your brother, I guess. So.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it usually comes from Dodgers fans when they someone
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  Speaker 2: says something like that, It usually comes from the Dodgers fans.
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  Speaker 1: But have you met him?
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  Speaker 2: I have not. I have not.
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  Speaker 1: Do you like aspire to meet him?
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  Speaker 2: That?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you should?
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  Speaker 2: I got another one too, uh, Andrew Abbott. I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a similar with there too. Actually took some pictures
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  Speaker 2: at the at the All Star Game. So and you
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  Speaker 2: guys are similar. I think so a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So if it's so, if you had a movie that
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  Speaker 1: was about you, you would like, by default have to
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gotta be you know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 1: he's okay, that's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Could play him?
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  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, there you go. You should ask that
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  Speaker 1: in some type of premiere. Let you do it. Something
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  Speaker 1: to think about guys. Okay, So next thing, Drew Gilbert.
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  Speaker 1: He is the weirdest guy in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go on basic the best though.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's it's it's kind of it's exactly that's him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's just that's him all the time. So
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't have like a like a there's no off
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  Speaker 2: switch off. You know this is I'm gonna see him
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  Speaker 2: right go to the field at one o'clock. He's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be just like this.
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  Speaker 1: It's great. I feel like everybody needs a guy like
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  Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird to say, but it's exactly what we kind
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  Speaker 2: of needed. He's just a young young kid that's just
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  Speaker 2: out of his mind all the time, all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So like in regular Cloe, he's just like this, just
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  Speaker 1: like that, so he never I mean, that's good. It's
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  Speaker 1: that he's consistent though, like you can always talk.
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  Speaker 2: To someone never changes, and that's that's one thing we
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  Speaker 2: always sound him psych When you become good and you
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  Speaker 2: know later on your career, don't ever change the same
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  Speaker 2: guy all the time.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot though, Like that's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to keep up, like a lot to maintain.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess, like you said, everybody needs it.
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  Speaker 1: He's playing really well. I think this shows that in
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  Speaker 1: his last seven games is hitting five hundred. You guys needed, like,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's what you said. You guys needed this spark. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean like this, sometimes it just takes one guy.
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  Speaker 2: It's a young guy, just brings a lot of energy.
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  Speaker 2: He's funny, he's screaming in the dugout all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 2: It's it was a pleasant like surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Something that and like you said, something that you you
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  Speaker 1: guys probably didn't even know you needed it until after yep. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So next thing, Uh, I'm really curious to hear about
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  Speaker 1: hearing your perspectible this. You'd rather pitch six innings hungover
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  Speaker 1: than to try and pitch six innings with no warm up?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: So would you rather be hung up, hungover or not
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  Speaker 1: have warm up?
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  Speaker 2: Probably? No warm up? Probably the no warm up hungover?
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  Speaker 2: It would be tough.
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  Speaker 1: But in uh, an All Star game you pitched and
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  Speaker 1: you were hungover.
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  Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, it was. It was my first All
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  Speaker 2: Star game. And I had a couple teammates on the
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  Speaker 2: Giants that had been to All Star games before, and
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  Speaker 2: they were like, enjoy everything, right, go to you know,
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  Speaker 2: go to the parties, do all this, h And I did.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it all. I had fun.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I had some some guys in there, Uh, some older
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  Speaker 2: guys that were kind of feeding me some drinks, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I just had a good time. I woke up
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  Speaker 2: the next day I instantly regretted everything that I did
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  Speaker 2: night before, but and I got through it. I know
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  Speaker 2: I didn't pitch that great, but kind of felt like
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  Speaker 2: I made up for it this year, so I was okay.
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  Speaker 1: So like, when you knew did you know you were
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  Speaker 1: going to pitch? Oh? Yeah, so you knew you're gonna pitch.
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  Speaker 2: I know I was going to pitch, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, it's one inning. I can get through it.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't It was not easy Texas. It was hot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you almost throw up?
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  Speaker 2: Multiple times?
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that was my first time actually running
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  Speaker 2: from the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because you're always walking in.
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  Speaker 2: To the to the mound. And it was actually Will
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  Speaker 2: who was warming me up. And I think I threw
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  Speaker 2: it fifty five feet. I felt really bad, but I
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  Speaker 2: was out of gas. I'm like, do not throw up.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many people watching right now.
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  Speaker 1: And that'd have been a viral moment though it.
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  Speaker 2: Would have been, but I'm happy I did not do that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So staying on the pitching side, talking about that
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  Speaker 1: you you've gotten to you got the two hundred strikeouts
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  Speaker 1: this year for the first time, right, yep, So does
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  Speaker 1: that was that like a is that like a milestone
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  Speaker 1: for you? Or is that just like your whatever?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think, uh, I wouldn't say it's
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  Speaker 2: like a milestone. It's definitely something that I always you know,
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  Speaker 2: I I will say, justin justin coming and having Robbie
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  Speaker 2: Ray in the rotation with me too, pretty good strikeout pictures,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of picking their brains about some of the
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  Speaker 2: execution stuff and sequencing and reading swings and doing all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. I think that was the biggest thing that
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  Speaker 2: helped me a lot this year. And yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's it's definitely something I wanted to do, but it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like end all be all.
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  Speaker 1: So having those guys like, is there like a hearing
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  Speaker 1: from them? Have you learned that there's like an art
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  Speaker 1: to striking people out? So what like I guess, like
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  Speaker 1: what what did you learn? Or you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 1: obviously tipping your your hand and whatnot, but like there's
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  Speaker 1: like an art to hitting right and there there's like
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  Speaker 1: a chess game the component to it. Then there's like
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  Speaker 1: a like you said, reading, the reading, the situation that's
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  Speaker 1: going on, and all the type of things. I think
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  Speaker 1: the I think.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest thing is that you kind of learn how
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  Speaker 2: to get to two strikes differently each time. Each time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it's like, you know, I did this the first
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  Speaker 2: time to get to two strikes, Maybe I'll do this
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  Speaker 2: a different a different way the next time. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just finding ways, you know. I mean, you faced me
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of times. I'm heavy sinker, heavy change up, right,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I kind of used those in early counts.
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  Speaker 2: And then I get to two strikes and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, well what am I going to do to
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  Speaker 2: surprise in this time? Right? And then that's when a
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  Speaker 2: ball would get put in play. Now, it's just finding
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  Speaker 2: different ways to get to two strikes, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: then it's like then you can kindt throw whatever you want, right,
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  Speaker 2: And it's it's it's kind of just changing the way
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  Speaker 2: that the hitter see it, especially once you throw more
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  Speaker 2: and more in this league. I mean, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: You're not really tricking guys, right, I have I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: fifty at bats against you, right, or Freddy or a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these guys. So it's fun, man, It's that's
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  Speaker 2: what makes it so fun. And I think having Justin
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  Speaker 2: and having Robbie just picking their brain trying to find
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  Speaker 2: how they do it right, and they do it in
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  Speaker 2: different ways than I do right, they have you know,
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  Speaker 2: I wish I could throw a four scene by a
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  Speaker 2: lot of guys, but sometimes it's got to be a
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  Speaker 2: surprise me for scene. So yeah, it's just it's been
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  Speaker 2: a fun Ye're just listening to those guys.
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  Speaker 1: How much does like location play a part in it?
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  Speaker 1: And obviously I know pitch types and you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying earlier, pitch types you know, can help you
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  Speaker 1: get to two strikes, But like how much does location
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  Speaker 1: changing up locations and whatnot play a part in and
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting strikeouts?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it kind of goes with the how
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  Speaker 2: do you get to two strikes?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, the there's so many different ways
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  Speaker 2: that they teach picture now right, just like the lines,
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  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of I think location is a huge thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I always tell young guys, I learned this
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  Speaker 2: early on too. Part of the reason why I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe I didn't get to two strikes two
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  Speaker 2: strikeouts is not being afraid to throw in the zone
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  Speaker 2: to attack guys and you know you got seven guys
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  Speaker 2: behind you, and not being afraid to attack in the
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  Speaker 2: zone and get beat. I mean, it's the big leagues.
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  Speaker 2: You can get beat every once in a while and
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  Speaker 2: being okay with that. And then once you get two strikes,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of play around with it, right, You can
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  Speaker 2: maybe go out of the zone, you can try a
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  Speaker 2: different thing. And but I think location is huge, especially
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  Speaker 2: with two strikes.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is like seeing guys and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: especially now, like maybe not you, but the guys that
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  Speaker 1: are just up there just checking it, throwing a hundred,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like they'll get you to two strikes and
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  Speaker 1: then they just throw something right down the middle for
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  Speaker 1: a punch out. And it's like sometimes it's almost when
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  Speaker 1: you mess up, Like have you seen like when you
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  Speaker 1: mess up, it still work out? And like how do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about that? Like does that take pressure off
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  Speaker 1: of you when you know, like, well, I know I
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  Speaker 1: need to throw this down in a way, or I
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  Speaker 1: need to throw a chase one, but sometimes I throw
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  Speaker 1: the backup one on accident or whatever. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, does that give you confidence, like you're not
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  Speaker 1: really worried about you just kind of throw it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: if you're I mean, there's a lot of numbers that
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  Speaker 2: back this up. But any anytime a hitter doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: what hitter it is. With two strikes, they're not as
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  Speaker 2: good as a hitter as they are when you guys
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  Speaker 2: are ahead, right, I definitely think some guys get away
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  Speaker 2: with more middle middle stuff than other guys. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I can get away with the middle middle stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, just not trying to be too perfect
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  Speaker 2: with it, you know. I think I think when you
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  Speaker 2: are trying to be perfect with it, that's when you
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  Speaker 2: kind of miss in the middle. But yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, baseball nowadays, I mean the average fastball is
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  Speaker 2: ninety five miles per hour. I mean, it's crazy, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean you're seeing guys, you know, starter goes
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  Speaker 2: out in the fourth inning and it's a mop up guys,
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  Speaker 2: as they say, and he's throwing one hundred and one.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, where is this guy coming from?
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  Speaker 1: That's the qualifications. So it's but to.
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  Speaker 2: Answer your question, I do think, uh, yeah, you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to miss middle, but I think I think some
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  Speaker 2: guys have the ability to miss middle and get away
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  Speaker 2: with it.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just kind of know who you knowing who
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  Speaker 1: you are for sure. So I want to I want
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  Speaker 1: to switch gears a little bit when it and talk
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  Speaker 1: a little about a little bit about like load management
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  Speaker 1: obviously for position player that plays every day. For me,
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  Speaker 1: like what, I love to go play one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixty two games. Yeah, but like that's probably not going
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  Speaker 1: to be the most optimal thing just because like you
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  Speaker 1: do your you do need recovery, Like you really do
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  Speaker 1: need recovery in order to continue to play the best
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  Speaker 1: that you can. Sure. And so from a pictures perspective,
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  Speaker 1: right if you're I want to hear, like if you're
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  Speaker 1: constantly going out throwing one hundred pitches, how does that?
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  Speaker 1: How would that affect you? Or like you know some
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  Speaker 1: cause I've seen like from from our perspective, like sometimes
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  Speaker 1: cursh I'll just use curse friends for instance, Like he'll
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  Speaker 1: go out and he'll throw eighty pitches, get through six
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, but then he'll go out and throw a
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  Speaker 1: hundred pitches, And I feel like the times that he
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  Speaker 1: throws the eighty and helps him the next start, but
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  Speaker 1: it may hurt him. I don't I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: that really kind of works, Like do you do you
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  Speaker 1: need to get get used to throwing a hundred pitches
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  Speaker 1: stuff all the time, Like how does that work for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, it's there's so many questions about I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that nowadays. I I just I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: came up when you know, the rotation when I first
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  Speaker 2: came up was was Bumgarner, Johnny Quato, Jeff Samarga. I
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  Speaker 2: mean there was guys that threw two hundred names every
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  Speaker 2: single year, and I had Boach as my manager, and
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  Speaker 2: it didn't matter if I went three or seven. I
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  Speaker 2: was thrown one hundred pitches that day. And that's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of the way I've always thought about it. But
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  Speaker 2: now I think to go back to the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the middle relief guys are throwing one hundred. Now you
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  Speaker 2: kind of want to use those guys. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that's part of it too, now, where it's like if
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  Speaker 2: you get a guy who gives you five or six
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  Speaker 2: and he's at eighty pitches and you got three studs
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  Speaker 2: coming up into that are all available to pitch that night.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's smart. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: I think there's there's a lot of stuff that goes
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  Speaker 2: into it, right if you know, say that through eighty pitches,
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  Speaker 2: but the fifth and sixth it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: second and third one out and if I find ways
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  Speaker 2: to get out of it and kind of going through it,
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  Speaker 2: I personally I always want to throw a hundred pitches.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, I'm lucky enough. I pitch with
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  Speaker 2: some guys that that always want to throw a hundred pitches.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's just kind of the way baseball
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  Speaker 2: is going nowadays. I I don't know, I don't have
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  Speaker 2: an answer for it. I do think the relievers being
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  Speaker 2: so nasty nowadays has has something to.
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  Speaker 1: Do with it.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm I think it's just the game has changed.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit. So it's almost like selfish is the
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  Speaker 1: wrong term. But like for me to go out and
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  Speaker 1: throw a hundred pitches and if I'm cruising cool, but
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  Speaker 1: like for me to go out and with eighty with
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  Speaker 1: eighty three pitches, to go out into the seventh or
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  Speaker 1: sixth or whatever and I kind of got through it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, it would be more optimal for the
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  Speaker 1: team to bring in this guy throw on a hundred probably,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's almost like a team thing, like we
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  Speaker 1: use more of the the team versus like having to
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  Speaker 1: like lean on the starters. And then I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, I mean you get you know, obviously the
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  Speaker 1: back end of the bullpen is gonna be the back
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  Speaker 1: end of the bullpen, but now like the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the bullpen is like just as good as the back
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  Speaker 1: end of the bullpen. So it's like, you really should
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  Speaker 1: you want to use this Yeah? Yeah, you really should
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  Speaker 1: use the whole team for sure in order to ensure
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: these wins. It's like, for instance, for you, like once
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: you get through five and or whatever, and let's say
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it was you know, you had to get out of
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: a jam to get through the fifth or something like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: do you feel like, no, I need to go back
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: out there to ensure this win or are you like,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool with if this guy coming out and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't mean that in like a weak
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: negative way, right, not a mental way, but like would
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: you be are you cool with.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: That me personally? And yeah, no, I'm not cool with it.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I want to go back out there. But I think
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: as I've gotten older, I've noticed these things. I realized
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: these things and the bullpen guys are nasty. So I'm
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: not as frustrated per se, if if if Bomo wants
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: to take me out or but I think it's a
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's a mentality thing. I think there's you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: it's we get paid to throw a hundred pitches and
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: that's that's that's our job. So I want to go
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: out there and I want to give as many as
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: many pitches, as many innings as I can. You know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: even you know, one of the biggest things, especially when
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I was younger, was you know, you give up four
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: in the first it happens, sometimes give up four in
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the first, find a way to get through five that day, right,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: you throw thirty, find a way to get through five,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and you get through six like you did a great job.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: And I and once you start doing that, you kind
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: of start seeing like the position players like they love that,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: right or the bullpen guys they respect that more there,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of what I always tell I
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: try to tell the younger pictures. You know, we've had
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of them the last couple of years. Just
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: like even when you're struggling a little bit, especially early
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: in the game, find a way to get through it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Find a way to try to throw a hundred pitches
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: that day, try to find a way to get your team.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Just so explain that to me though, because I hear
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. But if somebody goes and gives up
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: four in the first and they threw thirty three pitches
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: or whatever, like, what does it mean to find a way?
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Like how do you real it in Is it a
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: mental thing or is it a physical adjustment? Yeah? I
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: mean what is it?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I think if you go out there in the second
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: inning and you give up two more base hits and
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: it's like then you're probably gonna get taken out of
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that game for sure. But sometimes it just could be
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: like a weird thing where you were off that inning
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: or but that's I mean, if you're in the big
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: leagues as a picture, you know how to get out right,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and that's kind of to find the way thing. It's like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: all right, put yourself in a hole here, just kind
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: of kind of bear down and try to get through it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And sometimes you don't get through it and that happens, right,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and uh, but if you do. And I mean Lozardo
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: pitched yesterday, right, and.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: He went through you got through seven.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I think he gave up four in the first. That's
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: even more than finding a way.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: That's that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's cool. Right, they end up doing like
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: ninety five pitches.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It's just.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: That's kind of to find the way thing, right, It's
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: like it's it's still in there. You still have your
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: game plan that you wanted to do. Maybe you didn't
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: execute it that first inning, but you still are confident
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: in what you want to do. You're confident in how
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: you want to get this guy out. And you go
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: out there and you try to do it again, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: then the second thing happens. You go one, two, three,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and then you go it just keep going. And that's
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: kind of that message of like you got to figure
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So how do you how do you manage going in
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and giving up three in the first But you gave
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: up a bloop on a slider that was off the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: plate away, then you ace to sinker in and he
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: pulled a double down the line. Then you made it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: You did make a mistake, you know, like how do
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you how do you manage those emotions? As far as
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: like you are making pitches, but they're just getting hits.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: You kind of just gotta say, you gotta tip your cap.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the big leagues that happens, right, you
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: can make I could throw fifteen pitches that day down
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the middle and it get hits, It gets hit right
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: at somebody, and you know, I didn't really have a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: great day, but it went my way. And then there's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: days when you you don't miss the spot, but guys
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: are you know, there's broken bat hits and you tip
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: your cap and kind of just gotta say f it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And so you try not to get from straight away.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get frustrated because I think when you
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: get frustrated, it just compiles. And I'll be the first.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I mean it happens to me all the time. You know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I get frustrated by a blue pit or something and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I give up, you know, I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: walk a guy and then I give up a run.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: It's like, why did I let that blue pit mess
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: with what I was doing?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I still have the good game plan, I still have
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the confidence in what I can do. Why did I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: let a little blue pit mess my day up?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: So? How do you not let the blue pit mess
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: your day, Like is it like do you just breathe
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: or do you just like.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It takes time for sure. Yeah, it's I think some
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: guys have it right away. I think some guys they
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: they learn to deal with it. I'm still trying to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: get better at it. I still get frustrated by some things,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: but you know, you gotta, like I said, at the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: end of the day, it's the big leagues. It happens.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You know, these guys are you guys are really good
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: at hitting, and you kind of just gotta you gotta
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: let it go somehow let it go. You don't want
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to let it go. Yeah, but there's you gotta find ways.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Thinking. On the other side, it's like as hitters, it's like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: there's no way we believe that you're gonna go up
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and throw three perfect pitches on that edge, Like the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: chances of that happening are slim to none, right, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: then when you go do it, it's so frustrating. But
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: we also got to remember, like you're a professional as well,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's really just that constant battle
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of accepting that where this is the big leagues and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I'm playing against a professional, but also understanding, like you
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: gotta stick with your game plan, you gotta you gotta
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: control what you can control. And there's like that constant
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it's it's really hard. It's it's a it's a balance
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that's that's really hard. Like accepting accepting failure is like.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: The hardest thing hard and it's and this game is
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: hard to play. One hundred and sixty two games is
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: hopefully more sometimes right, and go through stretches. You know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I like watching baseball. I watched you know, I watch
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: one hundred and whatever thirty of the games, right, so,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: but it seems like I like watching hitters, and you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: when a guy's in a slump, it seems like it's
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: always oh too right, And it's like there's always and
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: it's the same with pictures, right, there's there's times when
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: it's just not going your way. Right where you talk
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: about three pitches, right, Well, I'll throw two perfect pitches
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and then I get oh two, and then I throw
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the one bad pitch and they hit it and they
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: get a hit. And it's like sometimes it's just the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: way the game goes and you can't control it, right,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: It's that's like the control of the controllables, right, it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and you gotta handle your emotions. And I think that's
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: when when you can do that, that's when you can
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: pretty you can stay more consistent in this game.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Okay, So everybody in the league has
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a guy, right, has a guy. And I know there
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: is like this I own you type thing, but I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: don't think it's true because every time, like every time
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I know that we're facing you, I hate it. I'm like,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Now I don't know how I've gotten
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: how I've had the success I have had, because it
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: seems like you go seven innings no runs every time
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: every single time we play, but you give up like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: three hits and I got like two of them, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But I don't understand it. But like realistically speaking, like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it could be me, but like who's like the guy
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter what you throw, where we are
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: or where you are, like they're going to get hit.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I think there's there's a couple guys. I think it
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It just happens sometimes you just.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: That was the So I think that one was like
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the first time I had thrown a change up below
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the zone and giving up a home run, and I say,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: of course it's you, right.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, it's just.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: You know, Willy's like that for me. Obviously thankfully he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: on my team now, But Willie, it was kind of
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the very similar where it's, you know, you make good
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: pitches and then all of a sudden you throw the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: one pitch.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: That you don't want to throw.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: The there there are definitely some guys, uh some rockies,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: guys Chrolie Blackman chuck on me.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: It didn't, it didn't, did not matter.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Every time I got him out, I looked at the
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: dugout and I had you were definitely one of them.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Freddy's one of them. I mean, there's it's a lot
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: of dob.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: When you feel like that, like so I use it
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: for me. I remember mark O Gonzales, I mean, I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: know you remark Gonzales like that is a dude. He
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: threw what eighty eight to ninety ninety two maybe on
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a good day, and like every time he bobbed, I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: weaved and every time like it was unbelievable that I
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: cannot get a hit off this dude throwing eighty nine
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: miles an hour.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I mean, that's the key I think
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: is like finding new ways to to get guys out right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's you know, I feel like I've thrown different pitches recently,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: right for sure, for sure, there's always.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: This change it that changes. Like for me, when you
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: started throwing the cutter, it's like, dang, that's a completely
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: new now, like that just opens up five new ways
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to for sequences for you. You know what I'm saying,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And so that's what you're that's what you're saying for sure.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I mean there's like I said, you you face a
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: lot of guys, a lot of the guys that I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: feel like I have troubles with her, Like guys in
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the NLS faced a bunch of times, you know, Manny
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Machado is one of those guys. Uh Luisa ries Now,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a there's a there's a ton of
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: guys where you're just like, man, I've all right, I've
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: tried this five times. These five times haven't worked, you know, right,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: and you feel like you set it up perfectly and
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you throw the pitch that you want and you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day you want to you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: never really want to throw away from your shrinks, but
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: sometimes your shrinks just don't match up well with this guy.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: So it's like it's it's being okay with being uncomfortable,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Like I don't really throw this pitch very often. I'm
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: not very comfortable throwing this pitch, but it hasn't worked
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: with the other pitches. So let's let's try something new.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And you end up throwing something new and it works
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and you then it's like, all right, now it's your
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: turn to to make to make the adjustment, right. So
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: it's just that cat and mouse skin. That's what That's
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: why I think baseball so fun, especially especially once you
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: start facing guys more and more, Like I'm gonna end
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: up facing you guys four years four times this year,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and it feels like it happens every year. I mean,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: it's just you gotta find new ways. And that's that's
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: kind of That's something that Justin and Robbie have helped
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: me with too, right, Like talk to those guys. These
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: guys both have ten plus. I think Justin is a
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: day away from twenty years. Right.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: You're Justin can't hide what he's gonna throw to you, right,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I mean you face them a ton everyone has faced
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: them a lot, and uh, just finding new ways.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So I want to do I do want to, like
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you said, find a new ways. Like I know you're
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you're throwing this cutter now and whatever else, Like when
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you go into it's not about the cutter. It's more
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: about like adding a new pitch, right, and maybe you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: had the pitch before, but really like locking in on
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: throwing this new pitch. Like what is it when you're
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: going in to add a new pitch. I'm assuming it's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: because you want to add new sequences and like add
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a different look, right, And but when you go in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to add a new pitch and then you take it
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: into the game. So for me, like if I made
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a swing adjustment and I'm practice it all day and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: then I go into the game, Like there's still a
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: little hesitancy when it comes to this this new swing
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: adjustment and whatnot, and like the unknown, right, you don't
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: know if it's gonna work. You're kind of scared if
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it does work or not. If it doesn't work, then
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I'm back to where I was. And you know, so
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like when it goes to adding a new pitch, like
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: what's your thought process? And like how do you get
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: through that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I think it ends up being a confidence thing, right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I think if I throw it once and it works,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's like, Okay, maybe I can't throw this.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You know, I tried to throw It's not the first
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: time I try to throw cutter. I tried to throw
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: cutter for probably five years now and I ended up
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two or twenty three. I tried it out
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in a spring game and Rowdy Till has hit it
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: like four eighty. And I know Rowdy He's from you know, Sacramento.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I've known him for a while now, and he's in
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the after the game, you know, spring training. So I'm
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: in the dugout and he's on deck circle. He was like,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: what are you like while he throwing that pitch, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know. I was like, And
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't throw it again for two years until I
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: face you guys last year, right for all sur Break,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: and I was just I, you know, I I was
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: messing around with it and catch play. I think I
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: threw like a little flat ground and got on the
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: mount and threw a couple and they actually cut and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna try this out.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It might as well, like nothing to lose here. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the first time I threw was the show. Hey, right,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: it's like if you're gonna if it's gonna work, it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: it's yeah, And you know he throw it enough times
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: he ends up hitting in the water like you did
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: last time I threw him one. But but it just
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: you know, it's I think it takes and it could
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: be the same. I don't know. I'm not a hitter,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: but it could be the same with one swing right
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: where it's like you work on the swing adjustment all
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: day and the first swing you take, you hit a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: double and it's say, there it is, right, and then
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: it's like that's the feel. And I think it's the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: same with a new pitch grip or pitch typeer you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, pitchers are kind of nuts with
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the same with hit or I think baseball in general
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: always trying to tinker with stuff and change things, and uh,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: it just takes one time to really feel it and
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you're like, man, that's that was the feel.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have to like once you do
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: it once and let's say you are successful, once you
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: have to with the new swing queue, like you have
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to go through and understand, like you're not going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: get a hit every time with this, you know, like
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it's not fool proof. You don't got it now, you know.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It's like it's always a work in progress and you're
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: always trying to refine it, refine it, and you have
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to remember like sometimes actually a lot of times, like
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: they're not going to throw stuff right down the middle
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: for you to hit, like, you know, so even the
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: swing queue, most of the swings we take are like
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: some type of off balance or some type of you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: somewhere up and away or not down the middle. And
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: so like I'm assuming for you, like you're not gonna
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: always have the same release point or it's not it's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: gonna be o too where you have to really get
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it away. You can't just throw it down the middle
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: like you always. You know what I'm saying. So there's
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: always some type of variable that we have to to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: understand when implementing something new.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, I think ends up going back to
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like the game plan stuff. Right, It's like, all right,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm confident in this pitch might not be my best pitch,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: or you have a game plan where you're waiting for
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a pitch all day and you might not get that
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: pitch and so you're force at bat, but you're ready
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: for it when it comes right. And it's I think
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: it's that's what makes this game so so so fun
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and so frustrated at the same time.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, so now it's trying to bring relief and get
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: more baseball, get more with the Geico. There's some crazy
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: moments that were caught on camera, uh that I want
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to show Ferris Bueller. Looks like he was taking taking
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: another baseball game at Oracle.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I did see it, so I don't.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not fully familiar with Ferris Bueller.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I'm either not either.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I know Walker Vieler. His handle on Instagram
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and stuff was Bueller's day Off. I'm assuming this that
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: has something to do with this this guy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so I think this is similar to he
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: wore that in the in the in the movie.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, so what do you know what what was the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: what was the movie?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller's day Off, That's what it was.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, got it? So that's him? So he uh, I'm
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that's he's on the left right, Yeah, ok yeah, it
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: seems like a good guy. All right, So what about this.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: This this Pirates fan has a has a face with
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the thousand Paul schemes has a he has a shirt
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: maybe yep, a shirt okay, yeah that uh that with
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the headband on, with the head band on that uh golly,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: nobody here and not sitting next to anybody though, But
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I guess it is. What it is is that in Pittsburgh.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want to say it, but I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: would assume so. So it must not be a day
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: he was pishing that maybe I don't know, yeah, because
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: people usually go when he's pitching. I do want to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: switch gears real quick. So let's talk a little bit
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: about you. Uh you play quarterback in high school. You're
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: from here, yeah, and uh you play football and baseball
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: growing up?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I did ye basketball until I was till middle school.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I was the kid that they let play like the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: last minute of the half.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you got the mop up minutes. Okay.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: It wasn't very good at basketball.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: They weren't very s all right. So I mean I'm
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: just gonna go with the obvious. Uh, white kid, you
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: probably could shoot it a little bit. That was yeah
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: that in defense? Okay, all right, that's what they asked
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: me to do. Okay, so you, like I said, you
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: played football like I'm assuming you were. This is you
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: running right here? Yes, it's not very very fast like
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: lamar out there. What do you mean so you you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: love football? Obviously? I love football. Yeah it was.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: That's always been my favorite sport. Okay, okay, And I
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: think about junior senior high school, I was I realized
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I was a little better at baseball.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So okay, so did you stop playing No?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I played all the way through senior year.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Did you get any college recruit.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some smaller schools, and it wasn't nothing crazy
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the baseball offers for a little bit. Yeah, it was
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit better. So I think it was like
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: a week after my senior year ended, I signed at
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Cal Paul and you go.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Play Oh nice? Okay, So yeah, I played playing basketball
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: all the way through and I didn't even think everything.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah I play every big yet. So but I know
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I have a note here it says you used to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you you were the potst in in uh in football practice?
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Where was that is that? According to some of your teammates.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had a couple of defensive coaches too.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Of my favorite coaches name with Jason Adams and Bob Seabring,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: and they would always encourage the defensive guys to kind
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: of mess with our like receivers or mess with the guys,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: and I felt like I was the one who had
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: to kind of stick up for them.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Like obviously I'm wearing the red jersey right or nobody
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: can touch me. It's kind of like the Mahomes. You
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: see Mahomes when he was going out of bounds and
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: he kind of checked the guy. It's kind of like that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the you know, I'm gonna stick
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: up for my the offensive guys, and I only played
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: offense and these are even in high school. Man, it
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: was weird when when I think about it now, it
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: was like all the defensive guys only play defense. Offensive
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: guys don't play offense. So I just thought I had
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: to kind of stick up from I give him little
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: shoulder check.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Here, Okay, you gotta do it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: You got to do a little smack talk here and there.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, So do you play fantasy? I do? So you're
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: do you like and you actually do it? Or you're
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: just kind of no, I do it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I probably a little too much, but too much?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, So every Thursday and Sunday you're pretty much watching football.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I am, okay, and you like so you football is
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: probably still your first love. Yeah it is, Well, so you,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: why don't you play like flag or something? Get out
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: there and play some flag man.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I don't is that allowed to be allowed to do that?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. One way to find out.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe later on, Maybe later on, after I'm done playing.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I joined a flag league.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Who is your number one pick this year?
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I mean I got too many leagues, okay, so I'll
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: do the Giants.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: The Giants, I was the twelfth pick.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I picked Nico Collins and then obviously with the Raiders
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: head I went Brock Bowers.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: With an Okay, okay, So I don't know anything about
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: fantasy I mean I got it. I'm on, I'm a
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: part of the team.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: But you don't run it. No, I just run it
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: My cousin, My cousin, he comes in for the draft.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: He's been doing it for me since twenty eighteen. So
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: he flies in even he'll fly in do the draft.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I've only I've picked one person in my whole fantasy
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: football career, and it was Lamar Jackson the first year
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that he went off, and I'll say, you know what,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and since then, I haven't. He hasn't really allowed me
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to pick anybody else, which is cool.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't give you the kicker defense.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: No, like this year. This year, I remember during the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: draft he would say like two or three different people
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: that we could choose from special receivers. And I would say,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I like, I like this guy. He's like, ah no,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that, and so go again. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I just slowly but surely said, you know what, I'm
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: just going to be the the owner and I will
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I'll pay for the gym. Yeah, he's the GM. He runs.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: How many leagues are you in?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I kind of don't want to say it. I'm in
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: eight leagues. Eight le yes, but uh.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: How do you keep up with eight?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Four of them are uh like dynasty keeper leagues okay, okay,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to read draft. Yeah, and then
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the four of them is like the team. And then
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I got like one with my dad, one with the others,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: so so like too serious. There's like a couple of
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: super serious ones, and then the rest are just kind of.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Out of these eight leagues, like, how many do you
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: are you winning? Like a couple of them or I
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: think it was four and four a week week one.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: They know I'm talking about. Are you winning the Oh?
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've won a couple of weeks. I've been he
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: got eight chances, bro, I know the Giants one is
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the one I want to win the most. Uh, and
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I have not coming second twice, I believe.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, So and do you guys do you guys have
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: like if somebody comes in last, they have to do something.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've usually done the bat Boy in spring training? Okay, Okay,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Kurt Casally, Actually I knew what a beautiful human being
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: he was. He lost last year and he has not
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: come to bat Boy, so we're kind of waiting.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Let's find him out of Nasville. Make sure you go. Okay, So, uh,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you guys are in a playoff push. Now you're getting close.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: You went through a little struggle, but now you got
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert. Drew Gilbert, he's he's the savior. So now
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: what do you feel like you guys really need to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: do to uh too through this push?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: And I say, yeah, I think kind of like I
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: said before, baseball is a long it's a long season.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: You go through stretches. I mean, even the best teams
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: go through tough stretches, and unfortunately, ours lasted a lot
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: long longer than we wanted it to. You know, I think,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: you know, we trade for RAFFI I think there's just
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: some pressure maybe that we were putting on ourselves that
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: you know, all right, now we're in the thick of it,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and it went the wrong way for us, and it
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: got to the point where I don't know, we were
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: eight or nine games back to the wild card. I
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: don't know, probably fifteen back of you guys at the
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: first place, Like we kind of just said, screw it,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: let's have some fun, let's win, try to win each day,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you know, try to find something to play for, right.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I think that was the big thing is we still
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: got a super young team, like a lot of young
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: guys and a lot of great veteran guys too, so
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: it was like, let's just go out there and have
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: some fun. I think we ended up going like an
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: eight or nine game win streak and kind of right
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: back in the thick of it. We just kept playing
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: well and I think keeping that same mentality where it's like,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: all right, we're not worried about the next series or
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously the goal was to make the playoffs.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: We all know that. It's not like we're trying to
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: hide from that, but just kind of try to win
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the day and if you win the day, good things
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: will happen.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: When when Devs got traded over and I remember, like
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: when we to help you a couple of years ago,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: we got Shuzer and Trey Turner. I remember when we
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: got them, there was this sense of urgency that was
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: created maybe from the front office, not not necessarily a purpose,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: but like, hey, here's here's some reinforcements, right. And I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: don't know that it added extra pressure for us to win,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: but it kind of felt like you So, when when
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Devers got traded, is that kind of the feel of think.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I think so. I think it was not really
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: talked about, right, We didn't feel like there was no
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: pressure from the front officer, the you know, coaching staff
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: or anything. But I think like subconsciously we just kind
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of thought, all right, we got we got this top
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: ten hitting player in baseball, and now we're we're supposed
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: to be in it. And and I think it kind
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: of just changed the change the way we maybe thought
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: about things, and we just kind of put our put
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: some pressure on ourselves. I think, uh, it was just
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: like a month where everyone struggled. I you know, I
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: think I had close to a seventy r A that month.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: It was just it was a weird month. Everything just
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: didn't go our way. And I do think there was
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: some some added pressure that wasn't actually like told to
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: us that there was like pressure. We just yeah, we
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: just kind of felt it. It was and like you
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: said a couple of years ago, it probably felt the
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: same way. It's you weren't told anything. It's not like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: it just kind of happens.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean when you add in a add in guys,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, they're added in guys so we can
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: play better. So like now we have to play better,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: right to do that? Okay, So I do want to
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: talk about a little bit about a little bit about
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: playing an Oracle. I really do. I really like playing
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: in Oracle. I really like the stadium. The only thing
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I really don't like is that it's cold all the time. Yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But from your perspective, obviously playing for the Giants, like,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you do you really do
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: you love playing Oracle and especially with it being somewhat
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of a picture's park, Like, is it like when you
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: pitch at home. You got the weather, you got things
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: going before, you got the fans all these other things.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Definitely, I definitely hear the cold stuff, like the hitters
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: and position players definitely feel it more than like when
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I'm pitching out there, it doesn't feel cold to me.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I'm involved in every pitch. Sometimes, like maybe later in
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the game when you might sit for a little bit,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: you go out there. It's a little cold and it
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: takes a little time, but it really is a great
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: place to pitch. I think the fans really appreciate pitching there,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: which is like I really appreciate that, and I do
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: think it is. It's got to be one of the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: most beautifootball parks in baseball. So I love it there.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I always hear I don't hear it, but like I
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: hear you guys talk about like the fans there, oh,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: ruthless and ruthless out there, which is crazy because I
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: could say the same thing about like going to if
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I go to Dodger Stick, I'll hear that. Or I
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: think Philly's rough, but but I always hear the Giants fans.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I don't I don't see it there.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I know they talk like the you're a bum, like
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: an outfit, but that's just like, but I think it's
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: in the it's near the dugout.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: It's near the dugouts, and it's in the outfield too.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: They say you're a bumb but that's just what they
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: collectively say together, like you're not.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: There's some stuff in between them and.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Dude, they're letting you have it and there's nothing, nothing
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: off the table, like it's your wife, your kids, your
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: your parents.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: You.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, like they let you have it, bro, they
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: let you have it. So but it's good though, it's
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: good like it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I think that's what I mean.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I hear that all you go to LA.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: You hear that New York especially, Man, honestly, the mess
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: is worse than the I think had that, but you
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: probably have a different experience with the Boston Boston. So
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I heard you and Jackson talking
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: about it, right, So it's like, but that's you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: two fan bases that to you, guys play for two
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: teams that are fan based, doesn't necessarily like and say
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: it's the same when we go to you know, Dodger
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Stadium or San Diego. Hear a lot like that's what
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: makes it fun. I think that's what.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Adds to it. That it adds and we have to
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: h we hear it, you know, we hear it. And
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's some of the stuff like makes you mad.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: But you also have to remember like that's exactly what
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do off your game, and so you
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: have to like mentally mentally lock in, which is really
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: hard before I let you go though, because I know
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: we got to go to work obviously. So Barry Bonds
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: is a huge part of the Giants and whatnot. And
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you guys have a relationship yeap. And it
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: was talked about like did you have you guys talked
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: about like if you faced him or whatever? Has that
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: has that come up at all?
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: He So Barry's in our clubhouse pretty much every day,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and I get along with Barry really well. He's uh,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: He's been awesome for me every single time. The first
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: thing he says is, man, I just want to see
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: one time one time. And I'm like, man, Barry, you
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: take me deep. I get it. I get it, you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: but it's it's like Barry truly does not like pictures, like, oh,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: just just he does not like pictures. Like if if
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I could ask Barry a question about like hitting, and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not going to give you any secrets.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like, Barry, I'm on the giants, come on
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: help me. Yeah, but he just like that's his But
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: that's what made him so good, you know, and he
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: really does. Uh it's great for every time he comes
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: in and they show him on the big screen and
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: every time he's in there, you know it's it's Berry Bonds, right.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he just I don't want to face him.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I wish. I mean, I do want to face him, right,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: like he always want to face the best, But I
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: don't really want to see a ball going in the water.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, So if you had, if you had to take
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: me before I let you go, if you had a bat,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like you had five pitches, what would be your sequence
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: with Barry to get him out?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: For a punch out? Now obviously this is this is
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: with you executing the pitches.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, I probably start him. Man, He's one of
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: those guys where I think the first time I face him,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: probably wouldn't throw him fastball.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: You would not throw fastball. He's the first pitch was
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: pitch one.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I'm probably going back door, backdoor slider.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Back door slider, strike one, strike one.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I'll probably just keep throwing them.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Changes and then maybe, maybe, just maybe.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I'll try to surprise him with a four steam or
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: something like up an end or something.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, but that's it. Like you watch his videos
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and you see guys try to like maybe I try
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to like front hip of two seam or something like.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think that really works against him. I don't
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: know what would work against him. I don't know either.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: That's so I said the first time, I'm probably just
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: gonna throw him, throw him a back door slider, try
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: to steal a strike. If I miss, I'm absolutely screwed, right,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: and then it's like okay, I just throw them all changes.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I feel like, I feel like
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: just your style of picture against it, Like if it
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: if it was like you had one hundred in your
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: back pocket and you're like Miserowski.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you challenge way more room. You can't challenge with.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Bro. And I'm not even trying to talk bad but like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you can throw it all I'm.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Saying, you know, I think I gotta hopefully make him chase.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: For that would be and that's the thing. He didn't
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: do that either, so good luck. Well, well, you know,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: we could set it up on the show or something.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: We'll set up Barry Bonds versus Logan Web. All right.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: You know it's crazy with him is he's getting the
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: cage and he could probably hit You can probably hit
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: it right now.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy and it never leaves, and he
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: looks good, he takes good.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: He'll he'll get in there and be like all right,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: like someone's throwing. He's like, all right, I'm gonna do
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: the first one. I'll hit like this over there, right,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and then he's like, by pitch three, I'll get him
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and I'll go and like he'll do it.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Like he'll good for him. Well that's that's why he's
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a legend. So but anyways, bro, thanks for coming on
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the show man And uh oh, I do want to
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: say this. I'm expecting you to pitch in the WBC,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: so I don't know. I hope you do, but I'm
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: just telling you what my expectations Okay, we need you.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: So anyways, thanks for coming on. Man. It's good to
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: really actually get to sit down and talk to you.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I know we've spoken a little bit, but like now
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I really get to know you a little more. And
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this many years of battle and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: in the chess match, you know, we'll get to play
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: chess a whole lot together. And like I said, man,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you're super dope. So thanks for coming on man.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. This is awesome.
• 51:25
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