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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 3-23-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: 's dive right into a Jeff Legwall conversation and begin
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  Speaker 1: our number two. Leggie is brought to you by the
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  Speaker 1: International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers ibe W Local sixty eight.
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  Speaker 1: You start with a job, and you end with a career, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: Tyson Anderson safety is apparently now a Bronco. What is
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  Speaker 1: the envisioned role for new guy Tyson Anderson.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he has zero starts in his NFL career, so
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  Speaker 2: you're you're.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at how many finishes?
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  Speaker 2: Jeff, Yeah, No, this is a right out of the gate.
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  Speaker 2: It's a special team signing. Yeah. Again, this is their
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  Speaker 2: very very targeted approach to free agency that they have
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  Speaker 2: a specific job in mind for this kind of player,
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  Speaker 2: and they waited until they could get them, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at their price essentially. But you know, he's going into
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  Speaker 2: his fourth year. He's played in every game of his career.
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  Speaker 2: He's just never started, so and I think they they
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  Speaker 2: see some potential in the defense if they develop in
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  Speaker 2: all those things. But this is a special team's guy.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, uh, is there any possibility and no
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  Speaker 1: Tyson Anderson follow up unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't when the guy has no starts and Frankly,
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  Speaker 3: who was it they who pulled out the rating the
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  Speaker 3: other day where he was like?
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  Speaker 4: Who was it? Spring?
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  Speaker 3: When that spring where we found out he was like
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  Speaker 3: three from the very bottom as far as whatever the
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  Speaker 3: rating was possible for a player. You don't remember that
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  Speaker 3: from our high five on Wednesday?
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  Speaker 1: Oh it was his approximate value on you you that
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  Speaker 1: found that very low?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: He got a one last year?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: One?
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  Speaker 3: Jeff, this is the kind of information that we give you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this dude, you don't need him at all?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: David and Joku, Nate and I just got done talking
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  Speaker 3: about will they do anything with the tight end position?
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  Speaker 3: Is this a guy that would possibly fit the system
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  Speaker 3: if they chose to bring him in? You talked about
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  Speaker 3: the targeted approach rate? There is there any other targeting guy?
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  Speaker 4: Or are they just done? Do we just have to
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  Speaker 4: accept it? You?
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  Speaker 3: I guess you told us whenever we last talk Wednesday,
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  Speaker 3: you think maybe the June first so get action?
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  Speaker 4: Is that just what we're waiting on right now?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I mean you know, look, you guys know I
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  Speaker 2: never say never with this team. I have seen too
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  Speaker 2: much over the years to officially declare them done with anything.
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  Speaker 2: They're always gonna look, they're always gonna consider players like
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  Speaker 2: in Djoku. But I will say and have said to you, guys,
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  Speaker 2: when price point meets demand, that's when the player arrives.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously there is no other free agent. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they sign Tyson Anderson, is they're only outside free agent.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, just logically, that tells you no one
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  Speaker 2: else in the marketplace from another team met price point
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  Speaker 2: and demand at those points did not intersect at any
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  Speaker 2: point right now for another player. I think, you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: everybody can be fitted. To me, that's always the case.
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  Speaker 2: But the information I have is you might see a
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins signing later, you know, when they see what the
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  Speaker 2: draft unfolds. You know, they see who else is still
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  Speaker 2: out there, They see the team on the field and
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  Speaker 2: OTAs and some of the other things, and they can
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  Speaker 2: get have a little more information about the guys coming
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  Speaker 2: back from the injury and all those things. But right
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  Speaker 2: now I'm not getting the impression that there is another
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  Speaker 2: signing in their pocket. I think their feeling is they
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  Speaker 2: expended a lot of energy and capital for Jalen Wattle too.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So let me follow up with this because.
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  Speaker 2: And again Andy, they re signed three tight ends of
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  Speaker 2: their own.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but I mean whatever those three tight ends
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  Speaker 3: have been about worth the one share that that that.
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  Speaker 2: This safety has been so well, I'm just saying the
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  Speaker 2: Wattle trade means this team's in three wide an awful lot. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Grim's got another year left on the deal. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how much more are you going to expend at a
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  Speaker 2: position where you might only have one of them on
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  Speaker 2: the field? Uh much of the time.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So, Sean Payton tells Kay Adams, because what
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  Speaker 3: I love about avingue On is you you like to
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  Speaker 3: really slice through fact in fiction, right, Sean Payton tells
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  Speaker 3: Kate Adams, A free agency didn't go the way they
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  Speaker 3: wanted to or hoped wherever you put it. But the
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  Speaker 3: bottom line is he suggested to you other there's some
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  Speaker 3: guys maybe we wanted but we weren't able to get.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you think they're most disappointed they didn't get
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  Speaker 3: in the building? Was it your guy in Oconquo? Was
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  Speaker 3: it a hn I guess that's how we're saying it now.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you think if they had one guy you
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  Speaker 3: think they did want, who would that be that maybe
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  Speaker 3: they didn't even get in the building.
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  Speaker 2: Well they were. They were in on the receiver Romeo
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  Speaker 2: Dobbs okay, and they were in on a chain a Chen.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, they were in on those, those two guys the
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  Speaker 2: deepest in the in the in the going around. But
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  Speaker 2: when again, price point went beyond where they were willing
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  Speaker 2: to go. So when he says it didn't go the
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  Speaker 2: way they expected, that really means the guys were more
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  Speaker 2: expensive than they wanted to spend.
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  Speaker 1: That's just what it comes down to. The market didn't
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  Speaker 1: hit where they wanted to be. Ultimately, Jeff making a
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  Speaker 1: trade for Jalen Waddle making that upgrade at the skill position,
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  Speaker 1: having to give up a one in a three, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you do improve your your fourth round draft spot
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  Speaker 1: by nineteen spots, I believe. So that's that's a nice
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  Speaker 1: little carrot in that trade. But ultimately, I and again
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  Speaker 1: we're parsing some of this out, some of this is semantic,
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  Speaker 1: but like, did the Broncos want to avoid delving into
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  Speaker 1: the trade market if they could have, But ultimately that
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  Speaker 1: was the only way to get the upgrade that they
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  Speaker 1: really wanted.
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  Speaker 2: I think Andy, I think they, I mean they had
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  Speaker 2: tried to. They at least tinkered with the idea of
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  Speaker 2: getting Waddle in a trade at the deadline last season.
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  Speaker 2: So this is not a new topic for them. This
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  Speaker 2: is a player they wanted and they figured, as everyone
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  Speaker 2: did in the league, the Dolphins were going full fire sale.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's at some point, you know. And by
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  Speaker 2: the way, you know, I don't have a dog in
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  Speaker 2: the hunt or anything, but if i'm Elik Willis, I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: wait a second. You know, you signed me and then
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  Speaker 2: you got rid of all the guys. But anyway, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's they wanted to acquire him. I think
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  Speaker 2: they may have surrendered a little more than they expected
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  Speaker 2: because they they did not get anybody else in free agency,
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  Speaker 2: so it put them in a position where if they
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  Speaker 2: were going to get him, they were probably gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to give up one more pick, or a higher round
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  Speaker 2: pick than in the grouping of picks than they intended
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  Speaker 2: along originally intended. You know, they'll never admit it, but
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  Speaker 2: I would think that price was a little higher than
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  Speaker 2: they planned on surrendering. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff legwalld with us here on a Monday afternoon talking
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  Speaker 1: about the Broncos off season. Jeff, I want to pivot
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  Speaker 1: the discussion something that your colleague Bill Barnwell wrote about
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  Speaker 1: on ESPN dot com. He was writing about perceived roster
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  Speaker 1: holes for every team in the NFL, and I was
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  Speaker 1: a little surprised by what he brought up with the Broncos. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they lost John Franklin Myers, okay, and he was a
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  Speaker 1: significant contributor. Dude's just a really frigging good football player,
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  Speaker 1: and he it was a cou to get him for
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  Speaker 1: a sixth rounder originally from the Jets. He was good
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  Speaker 1: the entire time that he was a Bronco. His departure
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  Speaker 1: kind of moving. Yomo wasa rique up in the packing
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  Speaker 1: order at defensive tackle. And I know that the organization
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  Speaker 1: likes him, But do the Broncos maybe still have to
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  Speaker 1: address something at that position.
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think there's any question. And their thirty
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  Speaker 2: visits reflect that they've got several defensive linemen in their
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  Speaker 2: thirty visits, which are if you want a good tracker
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  Speaker 2: for the Broncos. And that's why they don't give those
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  Speaker 2: names up very easily because they're drafting those guys. Those
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  Speaker 2: are very good indicators of who they like. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the issue is it's not just snaps. I mean, Laza
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  Speaker 2: Rique played four hundred and fifty some snaps. I think
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  Speaker 2: John Franklin Myers played just over five hundred last year,
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  Speaker 2: So the snap differential isn't different. But the quality of
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  Speaker 2: snaps every snap Franklin Myers plays looks the same, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, It's the same level of effort, performance, assignment,
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  Speaker 2: you know, sound, all of it. His snaps are way consistent.
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  Speaker 2: That's the part you're trying to replace. Lasa Rique had
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  Speaker 2: some very good looking snaps when I when I went
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  Speaker 2: back through it, but you know, there's more of a
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  Speaker 2: difference between his his floor and the ceiling, whereas Franklin
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  Speaker 2: Meyer's Vance Joseph and their coaches they knew exactly what
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  Speaker 2: every snap was going to look like with him, and
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  Speaker 2: that's that's the tough part to replace. So uh and again,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's why they've had a lot of late
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  Speaker 2: day two, day three defensive linemen into the into the
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  Speaker 2: building along the way.
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  Speaker 1: Along those lines are they getting concerned about And this
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  Speaker 1: is on both sides of the trenches, and they're really
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  Speaker 1: good on both sides of the trenches, but his age
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  Speaker 1: starting to become a concern with both of those groups.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and this is I mean yes, short answer is yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Glinchy has had some aches and pain. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we see he limps a lot after play. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's natural. I mean it's a hard it's a hard
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  Speaker 2: frigging job to do. And Garrett Balls, they've already I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's already beaten the beaten the odds. And he was
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  Speaker 2: an older player when he entered the league. I think
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  Speaker 2: he was twenty six when he was drafted, So his
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  Speaker 2: nine years in the league aren't like everybody else's nine
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  Speaker 2: years in the league because he started later on the timeline.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, tackle especially, I think that's why
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  Speaker 2: you always hear Sean Payton say we're always going to
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  Speaker 2: address the lines in the draft, and I think that's why.
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  Speaker 2: Also when you you know, the draft build model is
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  Speaker 2: what they're sort of they're using these days, that the
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  Speaker 2: majority of what they're doing is the draft build model.
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  Speaker 2: To make that work. When you re sign all these
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  Speaker 2: guys Zach Gallon, Nick Benito, Jonathan Cooper, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you resign that huge list of players, age is always
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  Speaker 2: going to be a little bit of an issue because
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  Speaker 2: those guys are in their second and third contract. So
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  Speaker 2: your only way to come back that is to be
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  Speaker 2: really good in the draft, backfilling every year. The theory
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  Speaker 2: is John Franklin Myers leaves, you have a player ready
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  Speaker 2: to step into that role on a rookie deal, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and so that helps your cap and your and your
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  Speaker 2: play on the field. But yeah, Age, when you resign
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  Speaker 2: this many guys and you sort of run it back,
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  Speaker 2: that is the danger You've got to wrestle with. How
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  Speaker 2: much is too much? How long is too long to
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  Speaker 2: keep people? And you know, that's why a lot of
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  Speaker 2: gms say it's not a popular opinion, but better to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of a player a year too soon than
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  Speaker 2: a year too late.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, you check in on any of the
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  Speaker 4: flag football this weekend. I gotta be honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: I forgot who's even going on.
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  Speaker 3: I heard some people saying Sean Payton had had trouble
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  Speaker 3: getting plays in even to that one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean what, I tinkered with the idea of going
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  Speaker 2: out there just really because I'm I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: the owners meetings you know where he will. That'll be
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  Speaker 2: the first time he comments on anything, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: off season since the combine. So uh, but yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't see. You know, it's cool. It's
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  Speaker 2: could be in the Olympics though, you know, I do
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  Speaker 2: dig that. I like that aspect of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hush, couldn't be stopped, man, you can You can
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  Speaker 1: only hope to contain whosh apparently.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just if we can't win the Golden Flag football,
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  Speaker 2: there's something up.
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  Speaker 3: What if Canada beats this, then well we're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: a whole thing again. Is it's all gonna repeat itself
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  Speaker 3: here or something like that?
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  Speaker 2: And that's how you now you know how they feel
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  Speaker 2: about the.
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  Speaker 4: Hot That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: That's football two nations?
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  Speaker 4: Were you ever a good flag football player?
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  Speaker 1: There?
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  Speaker 3: LEGI, you're low to the ground. You got a little
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  Speaker 3: wiggle to you. I guess you know, I mean we ever?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: I you know, back in the day I had I
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  Speaker 2: had decent speed for a short, squatty guy.
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  Speaker 1: He was the whip his times.
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  Speaker 4: We are we talking six six second forty? What are
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  Speaker 4: we doing?
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  Speaker 2: I could actually run before before age crept.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen he had some sweet hair back of the
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  Speaker 3: day of their night, some sweet long hair.
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  Speaker 4: We gotta get onto the board one day behind us.
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  Speaker 1: Right, oh, he's the great Jeff leg Well, now you
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  Speaker 1: know I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did Tom Green's podcast the other day, and he
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  Speaker 2: had stuff I had written in the Daily ALIONI So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of stuff out there.
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  Speaker 1: Did he pull the micro fish?
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  Speaker 2: What did he do? Man? He had like he had
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  Speaker 2: like copies of stories I wrote in nineteen eighty four. Man,
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  Speaker 2: that was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing. Man, that's great. Oh, I gotta I gotta go
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  Speaker 1: back and watch this, all right, Well, Jeff like, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: No, nobody, no, you guys, No, you've done it a
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  Speaker 2: million times. An hour with me is like with somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: Six with your tax guy.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff, Oh, he did Okay, this year I got slaughtered.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for reminding me of that.
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  Speaker 1: Go take a lap, all right, Jeff leg walled uh
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  Speaker 1: go yes, go.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of crankiness in the bunker right now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't wait to spend time with the over meal tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Then top top to be salty this year, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Internet issues, I mean I can't call up the video.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we're having some we're having some issues in
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  Speaker 2: the bunker right now. Hey.
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  Speaker 1: The good news is Jeff sweet sixteen. Okay, just rolling.
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  Speaker 2: I like, you know, I'd like to ask the big
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  Speaker 2: the SEC and what they think of Big ten basketball. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, was feeling saucy Big weekend. Hey it's a
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  Speaker 1: very Midwestern flavor in the Sweet sixteen this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the Pizza four, not the Final four.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, well done as always, man, thank you
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  Speaker 1: say fouls