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Dwindling Dodgers vs. rising Pads + Sacto A’s want more day games · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: ESPN reporter Alden Gonzalez joining us right now in foul territory. Alden,
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  Speaker 1: great to see you. I always look forward to your
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  Speaker 1: informative tweets and coverage at night on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 1: mostly in Insomniac.
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  Speaker 2: So this is.
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  Speaker 1: Prime time for you right now. You've got the Dodgers fallen,
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  Speaker 1: You've got the Padres rising, and these two teams are
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  Speaker 1: meeting up this weekend. Yeah, exactly, exactly. If people can
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  Speaker 1: see what AJ's doing right now for the podcast listeners
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  Speaker 1: later on, there's a little bit of a choke symbol, Alden.
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  Speaker 1: What are you seeing on the day to day right now?
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  Speaker 1: And let's start with the Dodgers, right you'd like to
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  Speaker 1: start with the panic mode and how they've really fallen
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  Speaker 1: apart to let the Padres jump back into this spot.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think I mean, it's a prolonged stretch
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  Speaker 2: of bad for them. I mean you look at July third,
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  Speaker 2: they had a nine game lead in the NL West.
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  Speaker 2: Since then, they are twelve and twenty two. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know who has a twelve and twenty two records since
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  Speaker 2: July fourth? Along with the Dodgers, It's the Colorado Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: That's how the Dodgers been playing, and I think the
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing right now, and it stood out in this series,
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  Speaker 2: especially the last two nights. On any given night, Dave
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  Speaker 2: Roberts doesn't really have a high leverage reliever to turn
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  Speaker 2: to to hold leads. Blake China hasn't looked right since
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  Speaker 2: coming back off the IL, and there are six high
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  Speaker 2: leverage guys on the injured list right now, and the
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  Speaker 2: last one was Brought Stewart, the one guy that they
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  Speaker 2: got for their bullpen. He's out now with shoulder inflammation.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously the natural question is why didn't the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: go do more. They were in on another high leverage guys.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't willing to give up their best prospects to
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  Speaker 2: get them, and that was with the thought that they
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  Speaker 2: were going to get a bunch of guys back, and
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  Speaker 2: they are Kirby Yates, Michael Kopek, Tanner Scott. Those guys
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  Speaker 2: should be back before the end of the month. The
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  Speaker 2: problem is that there's urgency right now and over these
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  Speaker 2: next few weeks, nobody has any idea who's going to
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  Speaker 2: be closing games for the Dodgers, let alone bridging the
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  Speaker 2: gap to the ninth inning in the seventh and eighth.
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  Speaker 2: And when you couple that with an offense that has
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  Speaker 2: been better lately but still not as good as it
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  Speaker 2: should be, what you get is this and it's a
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  Speaker 2: club that hasn't really spiled like this in years, and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty insane to watch on a nightly basis.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be honest, they don't have a closer, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: but there was a ton of closers available at the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard anything that the.
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers were getting asked higher prices because everybody sees the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers as well, we want to win the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: If they're calling about our closer, we're gonna ask more.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna do that. Like, is there is there any
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  Speaker 3: of that? Or was it the Dodgers lack of willingness
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  Speaker 3: to say, well, we need help when reality was they've
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  Speaker 3: been drowning and they needed help at the trade deadline?
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  Speaker 2: I think I think it's more of the latter. I
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  Speaker 2: think when you're a team that's trading away these these
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  Speaker 2: big time relievers, like your focus is just to get
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  Speaker 2: the best return as pops And I think the interesting
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  Speaker 2: thing about the Dodgers basically, every trade deadline is when
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  Speaker 2: you match up their farm system and the guys that
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  Speaker 2: they can give up. Because of the talent they have
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  Speaker 2: on the major league level compared to all the other teams,
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  Speaker 2: they could beat out practically anybody at the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 2: The question always comes down to their willingness. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: their front office is constant. They talk about this a lot.
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  Speaker 2: They're constantly and they're no different, but they're constantly weighing
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  Speaker 2: the now versus the latter, and it's a calibration that
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  Speaker 2: they have yet to fully figure out. And so you
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  Speaker 2: saw what they did this offseason. They were as aggressive
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  Speaker 2: as anybody that was largely and they said this often
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  Speaker 2: because they didn't want to have to go out and
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  Speaker 2: buy at the trade deadline. But the other part of it, too,
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  Speaker 2: is what they did this offseason to spend money. They
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  Speaker 2: have money, they'll spend money. What they're not willing to
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  Speaker 2: do as much is give up young players for players
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  Speaker 2: that they feel are only going to give them maybe
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  Speaker 2: like a very minuscule advantage for the stretch run of
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  Speaker 2: the season. Now, you could definitely argue that and it
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  Speaker 2: will be very valid. I'm just telling you that that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of their calculus this time of year, and so
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  Speaker 2: when they looked ahead, their thought was, Okay, it looks
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  Speaker 2: bleak now, but look at who we have coming back.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have Kopek and Yates and Tenor Scott and
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  Speaker 2: you know, and we'll just get brock Stewart. He's been
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  Speaker 2: great against right handed posing right handed hitters. He could
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  Speaker 2: fit in nicely, and that's great in theory. But I
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  Speaker 2: think when you look at it now, it's not only
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  Speaker 2: about how are they covering these next few weeks, but
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  Speaker 2: it's also a lot is going to have to go
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  Speaker 2: right for all these relievers coming back in order for
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  Speaker 2: them to show up as the strength that the front
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  Speaker 2: office thinks they will be. Yeates and Scott haven't been
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  Speaker 2: good all year. Michael Kopek has made eight appearances this season.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying those guys aren't going to be good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying they can't afford any more hiccups. So
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  Speaker 2: the margin for error on this season is it feels
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  Speaker 2: incredibly small. Right now.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, hold up, Alden, I gotta know this. They were
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  Speaker 4: supposed to go one hundred and sixty two and oh
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  Speaker 4: they were supposed to be the greatest team ever assembled.
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  Speaker 4: And now you're saying they have a tiny margin for error.
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  Speaker 4: What changed? Because remember this offseason everyone was saying, oh,
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  Speaker 4: the Dodgers are unbeatable, they'll never lose, They're gonna win everything.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna do this, They're gonna do that, Like just
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  Speaker 4: be are the injuries that bad that they can't cover them?
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  Speaker 4: Because people said, oh, they have ten starting pitchers and
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  Speaker 4: they have twenty five relievers? What happened to all that? Yes,
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  Speaker 4: I know, injuries, but the narrative has changed so quickly
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  Speaker 4: from the greatest team ever assembled to holy crap, this
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  Speaker 4: team's not in first place.
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  Speaker 2: AJ. That's the beauty of baseball, isn't it that? You know?
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  Speaker 4: I thought every expert said, oh, it's so bad for baseball.
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  Speaker 4: Every fan that Dodgers are like, see, you just never know?
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  Speaker 2: And ah, I think, and you could definitely speak to this,
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  Speaker 2: But I also think outside of just what baseball is,
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  Speaker 2: there's a reason why there hasn't been a repeat champion
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  Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball in twenty five years. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not just the randomization of adding extra playoff rounds, which
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  Speaker 2: might be real too, but it's not. When you're playing
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  Speaker 2: deep into October and sometimes November, there's a price to
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  Speaker 2: be paid. There's a price to be paid, especially with
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  Speaker 2: your pitching. And when you look at just when you
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  Speaker 2: take a step back from this season, look at the
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  Speaker 2: injuries that they've suffered in their bullpen, a bullpen that
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  Speaker 2: they rode really hard last October to win a championship.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that has shown up. It's
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  Speaker 2: not the only reason why they are where they are
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  Speaker 2: right now. I mean, you look at Freddie Freeman slump
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  Speaker 2: for a while, Mookie Betts is not having the year
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  Speaker 2: that you would expect to Oscar Hernandez, Tommy Edmund. They
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  Speaker 2: just haven't been right. That's certainly part of it. The
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  Speaker 2: rotation early on was very injured. It is now healthy,
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  Speaker 2: but it was very injured early on in the year.
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  Speaker 2: That taxed the bullpen even more so. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: talk to the members of the twenty twenty three Rangers
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  Speaker 2: and how winning the World Series spilled over into twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four. Talk to members of the current Dodgers about
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  Speaker 2: just the toll on the body, not just playing deep
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  Speaker 2: into October last year but then opening up remember mid
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  Speaker 2: March in Japan. I think that has a lot to
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  Speaker 2: do with it as well. And it's just it's hard,
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  Speaker 2: and I will I didn't think they were gonna go
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two and oh obviously, and I
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  Speaker 2: didn't I didn't even think that they might. I thought,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they'll have a chance at setting the regular season
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  Speaker 2: wins record, but I knew that was unlikely. I thought
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  Speaker 2: they were as well set up to be a repeat
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  Speaker 2: champion as maybe anybody this century because of how they
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  Speaker 2: fortified that roster in the offseason. But it just goes
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  Speaker 2: to show how difficult winning back to back champions is
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  Speaker 2: championships mean.
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  Speaker 4: To follow up on this, we talk about this with
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  Speaker 4: the Mets a lot. Their starters don't go deep, and
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  Speaker 4: the Dodgers for years have not allowed their starters to
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  Speaker 4: go deep into games, especially in the postseason. And then
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  Speaker 4: the bullpen just slowly but surely gets worn down, worn down,
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  Speaker 4: worn down, And that's kind of what you're talking about,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of starting injuries, so they don't trust guys
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  Speaker 4: to go as deep, right, then the bullpen gets used,
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  Speaker 4: then you get the bullpen injuries. Is this just a
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  Speaker 4: combination of the philosophy of what the Dodgers have been
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  Speaker 4: for years and years and now it's this is the
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  Speaker 4: year it's finally really kind of catching them.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's certainly a valid point, Aja, and I
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  Speaker 2: would say that that is an industry wide issue where
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  Speaker 2: starters are not going deep. Bullpens are being taxed, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure the Dodgers are guilty of that as well.
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  Speaker 2: What they will tell you as a counter is that
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  Speaker 2: they feel like every year they're going to be writing
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  Speaker 2: their starters in October and they got to save them
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  Speaker 2: for that. I mean, look, yoshinob Yamamoto, I think is
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  Speaker 2: a good example. He's made every turn through the rotation,
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  Speaker 2: but his innings are very manageable, partly because he's part
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  Speaker 2: of a six man rotation most of the time. Partly
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  Speaker 2: because to your point, AJ, he doesn't go super deep
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  Speaker 2: in the games because they want him healthy for the
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  Speaker 2: stretch run. I think that's part of it. But I'll
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  Speaker 2: go back to what I said before. I think the
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  Speaker 2: bigger part of why that bullpen was taxed is because
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  Speaker 2: they were just really hurt. I mean, the Dodgers got
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  Speaker 2: to a point early in the year up until like July,
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  Speaker 2: they were staging bullpen games twice a week and they
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  Speaker 2: were also suffering injuries to their bullpen, a bullpen that,
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  Speaker 2: as I said, had been taxed on October. It's just
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  Speaker 2: not sustainable and Dodgers I haven't checked recently, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: almost certain I'm correct that Dodgers' relievers lead the major
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  Speaker 2: leagues and innings. They've led the major leagues in innings
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  Speaker 2: basically all year. And yes, that could be a function
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  Speaker 2: of where the game is going with the usage of
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  Speaker 2: starting pitching. But I think it's more pronounced for them
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  Speaker 2: that they've just had a lot of pitching injuries. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, it's a second consecutive year in which
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  Speaker 2: they've had a lot of pitching injurers.
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  Speaker 3: I got one more Dodgers que for you. Is there
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  Speaker 3: a team that needs to have the wild card by
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  Speaker 3: like miss the wildcard round more than the Dodgers, a
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  Speaker 3: team that they've been mitigating injuries. You've even talked about
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  Speaker 3: Yamamoto like a you know, another extra round does not
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  Speaker 3: set the Dodgers up very well, so they almost have
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  Speaker 3: to win the division.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think I think you're right about that, Eric,
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  Speaker 2: And I think the thing about the Dodgers that we've
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  Speaker 2: seen this in recent years as and maybe that's not
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  Speaker 2: the case this year because they might be a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more flawed, But the Dodgers annually are deeper than
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  Speaker 2: any team in baseball, right, Like from a when you
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  Speaker 2: look at the totality of like a forty man roster
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  Speaker 2: a twenty six men roster. They have the most depth.
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  Speaker 2: And so the thought with the Dodgers has been, if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to beat them, you got to beat them
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  Speaker 2: in smaller sample sizes. Right, look at what the Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 2: and the Padres did in back to back years in
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  Speaker 2: the division series. If it's in the wildcard round, probably
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  Speaker 2: even better. When you stretch to a seven game series
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  Speaker 2: against them, usually their depth can really show up and
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  Speaker 2: they can get the better of you. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: saw that during the twenty twenty COVID playoffs, right when
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  Speaker 2: there were no days off, like that was an advantage
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  Speaker 2: for them because they were deeper than the teams that
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  Speaker 2: they faced. And there was a huge narrative about the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers when they lost those back to back division series
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  Speaker 2: and Diningbacks and Padres that like, maybe they just need
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  Speaker 2: to play the wildcard round. And the thought with them
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  Speaker 2: was always no, no, no, we'd rather have the days off.
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  Speaker 2: We would rather set our pitching staff. I know it
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  Speaker 2: hasn't gone well, but we would much rather prefer to
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  Speaker 2: get to buy And that's why, honestly, that's why I
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  Speaker 2: like this playoff format, like, there's a real incentive to
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  Speaker 2: get one of those top two seeds in each league
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  Speaker 2: because team see it as an advantage, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers are foremost among them.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have the Padres. We only got a
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  Speaker 1: minute left here, but take everything that you just said
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  Speaker 1: and then reverse it, right, Hey, the Dodgers need a closer.
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  Speaker 1: The Padres have five of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny because the Dodger strength is
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  Speaker 2: in their rotation. I think it's a legitimate strength too.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you go into a playoff series and
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  Speaker 2: you could run out Yamamodal smell Glass now and Otani
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  Speaker 2: with Kershaw also there, that's huge. And the Padres strength
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  Speaker 2: is in their bullpen's it's five guys maybe six that
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  Speaker 2: could they could cut games in half in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: And that's been their formula the last two years with
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  Speaker 2: aj Preller right. Last year he went out and got
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  Speaker 2: Teter Scott and Jason Adam to a bullpen that did
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  Speaker 2: need reinforcing, and he sees that as a clear pathway
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  Speaker 2: to win a World Series. But so when you look
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  Speaker 2: at last year with the Padres, they didn't really round
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  Speaker 2: into form until the last two months of the season,
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  Speaker 2: and it was right after the trade deadline. Aj Preller
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  Speaker 2: sort of completed that roster and they became one of
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  Speaker 2: the deepest, most menacing teams in the sport. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what they are right now. U Darbage coming back and
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  Speaker 2: being effective is huge for them. Michael King rejoining their rotation,
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  Speaker 2: even though his return was spotty, huge for them right
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  Speaker 2: Like the fact that they could run. They have four
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  Speaker 2: guys that to go run in the playoffs. But you
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  Speaker 2: couple it with that bullpen and a lineup that now,
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  Speaker 2: at least in my view, looks as deep as it
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  Speaker 2: did last year with ready for Me and Ramon Loreano
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  Speaker 2: and Ryan O'Hearn. Like that's that team is as good
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  Speaker 2: as last year's team. And I thought last year's team
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  Speaker 2: was the best team in baseball going in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, they finished basically one win short. They would
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  Speaker 1: have dusted the Yankees in the World Series. Almost everybody
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  Speaker 1: thinks that Alden, you're the man. Thank you for joining.
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  Speaker 4: Did the Dodgers or Padres win the West? One word answer,
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  Speaker 4: Dodgers or Padres win the West?
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  Speaker 2: At this point, I'm going Padres.
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  Speaker 1: Let's sizzle, the A's might push for more day games
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  Speaker 1: in Sacramento. In twenty twenty six, they had a record
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  Speaker 1: number of night games on their schedule for this year.
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  Speaker 1: That's to avoid the heatly any games in the three
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  Speaker 1: months where it's supposed to be the hottest right June, July,
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  Speaker 1: and August taking place during the day. Manager Mark Kotze
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  Speaker 1: was outspoken about this and how it definitely affects rest, recovery,
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  Speaker 1: family time, et cetera, which is precious in the sport.
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  Speaker 1: And it has been much cooler this summer than last
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  Speaker 1: year Sacramento. Last year was blazing and everyone was concerned
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  Speaker 1: about how that would play out, including the league and
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  Speaker 1: the team. Now, temperatures have not been as crazy as anticipated,
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  Speaker 1: and that has led to them thinking, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we can sneak in some more day games next year.
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  Speaker 1: Good idea, aj or bad idea.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Now next year we'll go back to the way it
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: was the year before, right, because just seems like they're
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: with the A's, that's what happens. They make these moves
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: and then whatever can go wrong has gone wrong, which sucks,
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I was a big I mean there's
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: a day game, night game, if it's a day game
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: and you can fly somewhere and get they're quicker, I'm
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: all for it. If it's a night game, I'd rather
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: just play the night game because your body gets used
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: to the night games and during the season, so just
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: stick with the night games. But if it helps them
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: travel wise, I'm all for it. But the weather, you
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: can't control. The weather, you can't control. I thought global
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: warming and everything was it was supposed to be one hundred
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: and seventy two degrees every day in Sacramento. But I
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: don't know. Man, it's that was a joke, by the way,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: so everyone, uh but yeah, I mean, I don't know.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: You can't control the weather. You never know. It could
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: be whatever. I don't know, just do what everything is best.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I'm scratching my head because I'm confused by this. But whatever,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know about this.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I've never I've never heard anybody go, man, we want
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: more day games. Yeah, it's nice to have a meal
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: with your family at night, but it's something that during
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the season you enjoy. For me, I enjoyed having breakfast
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: in lunch with my family during spring training. I enjoyed
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: having dinners with my family, And you never get breakfast.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: So it's like one of those things just to have
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: like a night out, to have a day game and
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: a chance of one hundred and ten degree heat, No thanks,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I'd rather have a night game unless it's getaway day.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Getaway day is nice, but no, I don't.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I don't want to have to play in one hundred
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: and ten because you know it's gonna be there.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah but wait, Kratz, let me throw that back at you.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: This is the main concern. They want this for getaway
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: days because I guess they're playing later on getaway days.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, well that's.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: The main concern here, is that they don't want to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: play at night for getaway day.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: And you can survive one day. I mean, let's come on,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: you can survive it one day at homestand one day
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: home if.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It's one to twelve, if it's one hundred and twelve degrees,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it's okay.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Done. It played in Tucson. I played one hundred and
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: forty and Tucson we played every day. Dude, you ever
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: been to Tucson in august Son.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: The only place that sucks that sucks more is White
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Sox spring training because it's much hotter than when you
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: play at a Dodger spring training. Now in Arizona, it's
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: always hotter when you play the White Sox because nobody
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: in the stands and the yellow seats are like its
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: own sun. But seriously, you one hundred percent agree with AJ.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: You can play in one hundred and ten degrees for
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: one day, especially since then you have the recovery of
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: essentially a day and a half to your next game,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: and you're flying, so you have to. It is tough
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: getting into a city, especially going from the West coast
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: to the East coast. It's tough getting into a city
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: at seven in the morning. You can go through a
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: game and get into the city at one in the morning.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: That's way better.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a good idea for getaway day
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to get games.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I never had to play getaway days most of the
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: time unless I really begged.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: But not because but not because of the weather, like
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the weather. It was brought up. It was brought up
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: because of the weather. They're like, oh, well, because it's
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: been cooler, we can play more day games. No, you
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: play more day games to get out of the city sooner.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, not because we.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Had a whole conversation krats about this with the with
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: the Angels. Remember the Angels were playing all these night
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: games and having to travel east to play right, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: the players are like, we want day games on getaway days. Well,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: maybe the athletics, the West Sacramento Athletics had the same thing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: We're like, hey, we have to go east some days.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Guys like, we need to have different times for these
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: getaway days because let's say, okay, let's say they're going
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: even to Texas, it's two hour time. You lose. They
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: have a seven o'clock game. You're not taking off till midnight,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: which is two am. That's a three to four hour flight.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You're getting in at six, seven in the morning. Even
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: with an off day, that off day is a waste
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: because you're so tired, right, and then then you have
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: to catch up for that whole off day. You don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: get to enjoy the off day. Whereas if you get
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: in at like two in the morning, Okay, you can
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: live with two in the morning versus six or seven
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: in the morning.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And it'll be year two. They're used to Sacramento. I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: don't think they're doing great on the attendance front right now.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, the team's not playing well. They certainly have.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Nine thousand, isn't it nine thousand city? What the attendance, Yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: it's the lowest one. It's like nine thousand.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Isn't right because it's a small park.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: But it doesn't pretty well with pre sale.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's supposed to hold. I think in that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: range pre sale did well. But again, this is the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: whole paid versus who's actually going right if you're a locat.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: The Rays though, have a bigger attendance with a smaller park.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: They have more people at the raise games per game
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: in the in the Sacramento is bigger than Steinbrenner. Oh yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I think that's Remember they were like, oh, we're gonna
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: sell out every single game in Sacramento. The fans are
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: so excited and for about a week, and the Cubs
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: came there in the first week and yeah, it's cool.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden it's.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Gone exactly, Oh we have the John Fisher clip. Can
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: we run that right now? John Fisher was at the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: game the If you don't know the backstory, you might
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: feel bad, but you know he's sitting in first row
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and then he's walking through the crowd and nobody's stupid
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: out there. They all know the situation. To me, that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: clip is the definition of why I get confused about
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: why it's worth it to own a team. I get
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that you're super rich and you're making a lot of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: money off of it, but like, but they're making a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: lot of money off other things, Like this is the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: only thing that he can do. There's other things that
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you can do where you don't have to just be
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: like a public villain. Guy can't show face in public
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: without getting a boot at.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: It's an ego thing. By the way, that's the same
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: reaction Tom Brady got today at Fox. I'm just kidding.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: There's a complete opposite reaction of what Tom Brady got.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: But yeah, the uh, it's an ego thing, Scott, don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: you it's an asset, it's a check. Look, I'm one
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of thirty in the world that owns a baseball team.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: That's a big bragging right, Like, if I own a
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: baseball team, I'd work this says I own a baseball
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: team and you don't. It'd be pretty awesome because there's
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: thirty people that really own a baseball team. I know
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: there's minority owners in this and net. But there's thirty
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: heads of baseball teams out there in the world, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: it's a pretty big flex if you have one.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: A j let's just put you in his exact spot,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: though I'm putting you in his body. Would you enjoy
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that part of the job when you are in public
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: at any point in time?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: You're just getting But I wouldn't run it like that,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: But I wouldn't.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't. I know you wouldn't. But I'm
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: saying different.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I don't choose, of course.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Not if you choose to run it like a villain.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Do you really enjoy walking around like you're getting?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: No?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Probably just have guys that deal with this, right, it's nutting.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: It's a full lad inside. He's got the middle finger
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: up going, I'm making a billion dollars or whatever. I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: about to make two billion dollars. Boom me all you want? People?
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: What was the who was the player not long ago?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: That's like, I don't care. I'm rich. I don't know
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: whatever baseball player said. I don't care. I'm rich. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: don't care what they people, boom you or not. I'm
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: still richer than all these people. In John Fisher's mind,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: he's thinking, like, I'm richer than all y'all. I could
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: buy every one of y'all. Like, I don't care, boom
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: me if that's a you think. But I'm trying to
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: do what's best for me and my family and to
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: make more money. Give me more money.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I think that was Jazz. By the way, when people
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: were getting on him about the derby, right, yeah.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: He said, I know it was somebody. I don't remember
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: it was Jazz.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Kratz, you got something before we head out here.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just being a hopeless romantic, like why why
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: do you enjoy this? My thing is, if you're him,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, shouldn't you be in the suite or something.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: He's a man of the people.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: He's trying to be He's trying to be a man
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: of the people. But uh, kind of like the kind
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: of like the groundbreaking ceremony they had in Vegas, just
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: it's fake. It's fake, and it's not if you are
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: a genuine owner. You're going to have ups and downs.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: You're gonna get booed, you're gonna get cheered. At least
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: you know at the end of the day, you gave
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: it everything. You had when you own the team and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it didn't work out. I don't think he can say that,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: and I'll be honest, I don't think he really cares.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: But we would have to ask him. Ah, he doesn't talk,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: so we don't know.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Correct. Most walk around like, yeah, if you're John Middleton,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you're a freaking rock star in Philly. You know, Steve Cohen,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: even though the team's not playing well, he's all over
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the place and people take pictures with him and it's cool.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And there are many others, right, there's a lot of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the five are good. Yeah, there are a lot that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: are great. But if you're one of the five villains,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm always watching them in public when they walk around
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and these videos go viral and I'm like, does he know?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Does he know? Like does he read anything?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I have a buddy that's a you know, he has
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: a share in the Green Bay Packers because you can
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: buy shares in the Green Bay Packers and he's a
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Packer fan. He walks around like that and he owns
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: a share of the Packers. So, Jason, just because you
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: own a share of the seven bazillion shares doesn't mean
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: you can walk around like like John Fisher does.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But he's not a villain. That's the difference.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: No, but he thinks walking around like a villain, nobody thinks, right.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Right, that's fine. You want to walk around huffing and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: puffing and proud that you own a team, that's great.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: But when you are one of the few villains in
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the sport, I just think it's a tough look. But hey,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that's his life.