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Protect Your QB, Protect Your Season · Fanatically Speaking with Kent

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what's up everybody welcome to fanatically speaking
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i'm kent i'm log off i'm the log off legend and
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uh we're here to say everything that every fan
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is thinking but louder and probably a little
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crazier get ready this is fanatically speaking
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with kent and log off you know what's funny like
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i don't hate i don't i'm not a social media hater
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i'm a social media hater You know what I mean?
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Yeah. I don't want people to think that I get
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on the internet and start hating people on social
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media. That's not what I do. The first half was
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absolutely horrible. You know, just inept offense,
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inept defense, special teams, you name it. I'm
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going to turn into Oprah. Why were you so angry?
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He sucks this season. This game, whatever. Whatever's
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going on, right? And then in the very next pitch,
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guess what they do? Double Homer and he's like
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told you dad. Why are you always knocking down
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people? Listen, you got the highs and the lows
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Yeah, so I knew that you need you need the highs
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and the lows and so I do that. Yeah I'm trying
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to be the voice of reason here. I am what I am
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what's up everybody welcome to another episode
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of fanatically speaking i'm kent the co -host
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and promoter i am log off the log off legend
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the hater of social media i am the co -host and
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producer of the show up to this episode we're
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going to get into the nfl as it stands currently
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it was a wild sunday a lot of stories a lot of
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things going on it was so much stuff man and
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uh we we hopped in the group chat back and forth
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all day during the day watching all the games.
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The first thing obviously grabbed everybody's
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attention was the Jaden Daniels injury, you know,
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Sunday night game, a lot of eyes on it. And,
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you know, he was a up and coming good young quarterback,
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you know, and I think the, uh, the commanders
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had a lot of high hopes this year. So watching
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that injury take place, um, I think, so I think
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it was, it was a left dislocated elbow. Yeah.
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Yeah, so left dislocated elbow. It was ugly to
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watch the video was it's actually hard to find
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I was trying to find replays of it. It was tough
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to find online but um, but yeah, so Clearly he'll
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he'll be out for a while, you know with an injury
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like that But you immediately took to the group
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chat to have a a super hot take on it I think
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a lot of people echoed your sentiments. What
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did you have on it? Yeah, so as soon as I saw
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as soon as I saw the time on the clock soon as
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I saw a score I checked out the game, but at
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that moment, I did not. It was just, I had enough.
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Enough, yeah, so, yeah, I gotta sleep sometimes.
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So when I got up, saw the text, I was like, oh,
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let me go see. Saw the play. And the first thing
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that I, as text, and now I've seen it everywhere,
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obviously anyone would have this reaction to
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say, why was he in the game? It was 38 to seven,
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seven minutes left in the fourth quarter. Why
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was he even in the football game? The game was
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over, they were not winning. And I get it that
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the drive, you know, started and then at that
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moment, they were, you know, in the red zone,
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almost scoring seven minutes left at that point.
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But still, like, why even be in the game? You
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know, he's already had injuries this year. Again,
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why you don't want your star player in the game
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when you can't win. Yeah. So I've on the surface,
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I understand what you mean. I think the thing
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about it, I don't know if you remember this last
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year. Last year, his year was incredible, man.
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He had an incredible season. Oh, for sure. For
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rookie season, he had six comeback wins. Now,
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38 to seven, little out of hand, right? Yeah,
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not happening. Miracles happen every day. And,
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you know, so I'm not going to sit here and try
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to make it seem like I felt like, or I knew he
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was going to try to come back or, but he was
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one of those guys that even when they were down
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and out last year, Six comeback wins, you know,
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coming from behind at the trailing in the fourth
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quarter. That's incredible. I think that they
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thought that that was, you know, something that
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maybe he could have pulled off or at least make
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the game competitive. But I agree with you largely.
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Seven minutes is like, go ahead and get that
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guy out of the game. You got to protect him against
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himself and live to fight another day. You're
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getting your asses kicked in front of everybody.
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You know, just go ahead and pull them out of
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the game and, you know, live to play another
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down. Yeah, the other thing I thought of was
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RG 3. I was like here we go again Washington
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Putting a quarterback or having a quarterback
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in there and meaningless time or off an injury
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coming back from an injury risking it For what
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at least I think RG 3 was a playoff game though.
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So it was a playoff game But but but yet still,
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you know risking it and here we go again in a
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Sunday night football game middle of the season
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When the season the game was pretty much over
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And now we can say that their season is pretty
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much over. Yeah, no. Yeah, it's over for sure.
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And I mean, it's unfortunate you don't root for
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anything to happen like that to especially to
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a young quarterback. But that's the other thing.
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And it's the interesting parallels with the Jaden
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Daniels injury and RG three injuries. They were
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both really young. Their skill sets or are incredibly
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similar. Yep. Even though RG three had more muscle.
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they're both really slim frame body types like
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the parallels are just crazy and in both of these
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instances you i don't even know if you remember
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the rg3 game people were screaming the same thing
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at the tv why do you still have him out there
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he was out there playing on a bum knee and then
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you watch his leg almost snap in half you know
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in midair So it was so many parallels between
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the two. The comparison's crazy. Same team, same
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franchise, clearly different coaching staffs,
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but it's just like, damn, that franchise can't
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catch a break to save its life. No, not with
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a young quarterback who, again, RG3 showed promise.
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It is Ricky's season. Jaden Daniels obviously
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did go into the NFC championship. And the other
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thing I thought was, you know, I was talking
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about old rat -faced Shanahan. Did he put in
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a call to Dan Quinn and say, leave him in? Let
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them play. Let them play through it. Yeah, you
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know, but it also is like, you know, you say
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that I feel like RG3 and Jaden Daniels and, and
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I, you know, say what you want to about RG3 to
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do who can play football. He understood the position.
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Yes. He wasn't the best passer, but he was a,
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he was an above average passer, really good completion
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percentage, didn't turn the ball over a lot.
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He could have been the franchise quarterback
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for a decade if it wasn't like injury, you know,
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riddled. Yeah, yeah, I think that injury derailed
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his career, his entire career. Not everybody
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bounces back from those injuries. And for Jaden
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Daniels, he's going to have to bulk up. You know,
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I've always heard he is slim. I mean, I mean,
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obviously you can see that he's slim and it's
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like, dude, you got to be careful. It's the NFL.
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You say this about Bryce Young being small and
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slim as well. These quarterbacks like you can
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play. the NFL but you got to you got to protect
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yourself and you got to be careful and Sometimes
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you're just not gonna be able maybe your body's
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just not gonna make it. Yeah, that's true And
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I'll give and you know, we talked about size,
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you know in this instance We're talking about
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Jayden Daniels being you know, relatively slim
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I can't think of I can't think of a comp in terms
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of how frail he looks as a as a as a starting
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quarterback that we deemed was like great I'm
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I'm I'm racking my brain. I mean maybe Mariota
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maybe But I feel like Mariota had a little had
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broader shoulders You know, I'm struggling but
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you know, you're talking about like size like
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somebody like Kyla Murray. He learned early,
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dude I'm a slide. I'm not taking these hits,
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but you know, you know, he's like a short but
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he's stocky It's just slim and that body it can
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only take so many hits so many falls so many
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injuries He's got to have like a Tom Brady offensive
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line in front of him to help him just not get
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touched at all Yeah Yeah, and like I said, I
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mean, it's thanks for him. I mean, we'll see
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what happens to their season. You know, I don't
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know how things are going to play out. Maybe
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they can pull off a miracle. But I mean, as of
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right now, if I had to bet money, I'd bet like,
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yeah, they'll go ahead and just kind of hang
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it up and see if they can get them a really good
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draft pick, you know, in the in the draft coming
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up this summer. Yeah, they'll compete. Mariota
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has been serviceable. They're just kind of old
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as a team. And, you know, maybe it was just one
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year. I don't know. Yeah, yeah could have been
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a flash in the pan Oh Something else that happened.
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So there's the the Daniel Jones, you know a lead
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Indianapolis Colts game versus the Steelers and
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You know, we kind of had some back and forth
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about Dale Jones, you know, he had a really crazy
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hot start We saw how he was playing well after
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he left the Giants, you know, starting quarterback
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for them this year. And then, you know, they
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play their game against the Steelers. And I have
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to find the picture, but there's a picture of
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this gentleman when, I want to say it was after
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his second pick, and the camera zoomed in on
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him right after they were calling a play, and
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all the other players were running to the line
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of scrimmage, and the look on his face was sheer
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fear. He was scared out of his mind the Steelers
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defense credit to Mike Tomlin Credit to that
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line credit to those linebackers credit to those
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DBs. They were all over his ass They were swarming
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him like bees. He couldn't get anything off.
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He couldn't see anything He couldn't get clean
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looks and it was a Destruction of a quarterback.
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I can't it's hard for me to remember a quarterback
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had to him playing so well all season and then
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just have a game like that where you just drop
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a turd in front of everybody you know in a big
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game versus the Steelers of all of all teams
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who were playing okay but they tried to give
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that game away because even with all those turnovers
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they weren't blowing them out like the game was
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still competitive even up until the very end
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the game was still competitive so um I'm sure
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you've had a chance to kind of take a look at
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what took place there. What stuck out to you,
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um, about the, uh, about Daniel Jones versus
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the Steelers. So you say you haven't seen a quarterback
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like that in a while that happened. I don't remember
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that happening since Jake Delome against the
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Arizona Cardinals. Wow. That's a damn good one,
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man. Like he damn that's a good one. He was serving,
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uh, turnovers. He was giving out desserts to
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everybody. Uh, yeah, but, um, but to steal is
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two things either happen, right? Daniel Jones,
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like you said, turned back into a pumpkin or
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the Steelers, all the money they put in their
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defense finally showed up and played the way
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they could play because they got carved up by
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Joe Flacco. They've been really carved up by
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everybody, but then they come out and outscore
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them, right? They've been able to survive, be
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above 500. playing pretty good football, but
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not great football. So the Colts have been awesome.
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Daniel Jones has been awesome. Jonathan Taylor
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been awesome. They've been the number one team,
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right? In the AFC. Again, I said I believed in
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them. So Daniel Jones, you're making me look
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stupid. So, but like I said, one or two things
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happen there, right? And we talked about this
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with all these quarterbacks who are having this
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revival is like, are they for real or do they
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come back to reality? Is this reality for Daniel
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Jones? Or is the Steelers, did they finally click
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for that defense? One of the two things happened,
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right? Or maybe it's just a bad week. Maybe it's
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just a bad game. I don't know. I think it was
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a combination of the two. And in that episode
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where you claimed that you believed in the Colts,
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I mean, it wasn't a ridiculous thing to say.
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They'd been playing well up to that point. In
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that very same episode, I believe I said, and
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I quote, I don't trust none of these motherfuckers.
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is because uh... it was a look at the things
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like that because you know he'd he'd i'd we all
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knew these capable of having a game like that
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we seem to have bad games you would play for
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the giants over the last couple years but i think
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take to get to your uh... one of the original
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points you're trying to make i think it was a
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combination of two things it was a combination
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of the steelers defense kind of figuring things
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out the defensive coordinator, Mike Tomlin getting
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together and say, Hey, we're just going to scheme
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this guy and we're going to take away all of
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his strengths and see if he can handle the pressure.
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And he couldn't, but also you also have the other
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side of Daniel Jones being a relatively inexperienced
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quarterback in huge games where you're going
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to be dependent on him to really help carry your
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team and get them over the hump. So I think it
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was just kind of a healthy mix of the two that
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just unfortunately turned into what five turnovers,
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five turnovers, five sacks, you know? Yeah. And
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just looking at the stats again, the, you know,
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the Colts, they got down kind of big, but not
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huge, but this is a recipe to beat the Colts
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right here. And the Steelers got it. You make
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Daniel Jones have 50 attempts passing and you
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hold Jonathan Taylor to 45 yards on 14 rushes.
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That's a recipe to beat the Colts right there.
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We know there the running game is the strength
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Make Daniel Jones thought 50 times and I bet
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you're gonna beat the Colts every time Got it.
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Well, yeah, and they put him in a position to
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where they were like, Oh, he's got to throw it
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this time. So now it's like, Hey, we're just
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going to drop everybody back. We're going to
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push our line. We're going to blitz. Yeah. You
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know, we're going to come from, we're going to
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come from the left. We're going to come in the
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middle. We're going to come from the right. You
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know, he's going to scramble out. Somebody's
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going to kid him from behind. He had no, what
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he had no time to think. And again, relatively
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inexperienced quarterback in big games. You're
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playing the Steelers, you know, big game. You
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know my coach by Mike Tomlin Aaron Rodgers is
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their quarterback and it's crazy It is as big
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of a name as Aaron Rodgers is we haven't really
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spoken a lot about him this whole season But
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yet the Steelers are still formidable They're
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still able to go out and when he had to go out
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and out play Aaron Rodgers And he didn't stand
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a chance man. It was it was over before it started
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I watched that game from start to finish and
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man was it ugly There you go That's it. Yeah,
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good old Daniel Jones. Alright, Danny Dimes.
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Danny Dimes. Oh, I forgot about that nickname.
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Danny Dimes. New York fans are ridiculous. Don't
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give you anything. Danny Dimes. Alright, so the
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other thing is off the field that happened the
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last week. Was the Philadelphia Eagles making
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moves Howie Roseman cooking? trading Filling
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in the spots that they need help in while they're
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on this bye week Yes, no, it was huge and you
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know during their bye week, you know good old
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Howie You know got to clicking started making
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his calls and started making the moves for the
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trades I'm curious kind of what you grade the
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trades. You're much better at this type of stuff
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than I am. It's not a strength. I kind of have
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to lean on, you know, the experts on their opinions,
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but I value your opinions on this. How did you
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feel about the trades and the acquisitions that
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they made to talent and what they gave up and
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what they got back in return? Yeah, so almost
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anybody could have been an upgraded cornerback
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on the opposite side of Quinian Mitchell. That's
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how bad Odore Jackson and Keely Ringo had been.
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And that was going to come back to bite the Eagles
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once they play a team like the Cowboys with when
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both receivers are healthy Or the Packers they
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have a lot of receivers teams like that Lions
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these offensive juggernauts That would be tough.
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No matter who you know, no matter how what else
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the Eagles have on defense So, you know the first
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trade they made obviously to get Michael Carter
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the second He was on the Jets. They're not going
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anywhere. So they were looking to make deals
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trade them for the receiver and maybe some late
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picks. I don't really pay attention. It was a
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27th round pick. Yeah. So nothing, Eagles, you
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know, a receiver, they kind of use sparingly,
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not really, but they get an upgraded corner.
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He's more of a nickel corner. So I just thought,
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okay, depth and let's see what else they do.
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Right. Gotcha. So then of course out of nowhere
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over the weekend, then they get Jair Alexander
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from the Baltimore Ravens. He was having trouble
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finding the field for Baltimore. We don't know
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what they're doing at the moment. They had, they've
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been behind the eight ball all year. So they
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made a move again, late round picks involved.
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Now he's a starting corner. So already now, you
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know, okay, now we got, now we, I say we, obviously
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the Eagles have Quinian and Jair Alexander. And
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you got Cooper DeGene. Michael Carter they can
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they can be in the nickel. I Look like Carter
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could fill that void that Avanti Maddox did in
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the past You know that just another corner to
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add depth I don't know what Ringo and Jackson
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are gonna do and I really don't care and Then
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today they they pick up Jalen Phillips defensive
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end edge rusher for from the Dolphins for a third
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round pick He I know when the Eagles have played
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them he was He was kind of a problem, right?
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He got to the quarterback. So he's had some injuries
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the past few years. The first few years in the
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year league, he had good numbers and sacks. So
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putting him in this system again with Vic Fangio,
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who he's played with, I think it's a win. I think
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all three moves were just unbelievable. You don't
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have to get it. They didn't have to give up a
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lot. I don't mind giving up a third round for
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a young. edge rusher like that to put them in
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the mix with the other guys on the line and then
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again fixing that corner cornerback problem adding
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that depth they needed desperately for this second
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half run gotcha no yeah and it was they were
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all really good picks and i think the timing
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of it was probably uh what was what was the most
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surprising approaching the trade deadline and
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you know it allows them to kind of bring these
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guys in and you don't have to rush them on the
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field Because the guys that they got traded for
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weren't pivotal pieces to begin with. This gives
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them a couple of weeks. Obviously, they had the
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bye week. But this gives them a couple of weeks
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to kind of let them understand the playbook,
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let them understand the scheme, understand how
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the team plays, and then just work them into
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the system slowly. Masterful moves, and I mean,
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I think it's easy to say that the Eagles made
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the best moves at the trade deadline than any
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other team. If you're giving grades, you've got
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to give them an A. Because the team was already
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so good and they went and got the pieces that
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they needed in the weakest areas that they had
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A plus across the board, you know, it was good
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to see and you know, we'll just kind of see how
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it shakes out You know later into the year, you
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know moving into these colder months when you
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know teams are actually starting to secure a
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playoff spot Yeah, and not to mention, you know,
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they brought back brandon graham. We didn't talk
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about that Like that's happened that's happened
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right here before the you know, I think it happened
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actually before the game the giants game, but
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still They had given him time give him a few
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weeks to get back into shape play in shape Get
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back in the rhythm and again now it's today.
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They don't play until Monday night next week
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Against the Packers. So again, Johnny Alexander
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is former team. That's kind of motivation and
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then just getting them plugged in Again, it gets
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a really tough November schedule Yeah, yeah tough
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November schedule, but but none of the guys that
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were acquired None of the guys that were picked
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up and signed none of them have to rush in to
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play And I think that's the beauty of it. Your
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team and your roster was still pretty intact.
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You don't have to rush these guys into anything.
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You could just, you know, give them, you know,
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10 to 15 plays a game and just see how they do,
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you know, let them get their conditioning back,
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let them get their wind back, let them understand
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how the schemes work. Again, masterful, man.
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I love it. It's good to see it. And, you know,
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we'll just kind of see how things shake out,
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you know, as we move on into December, because
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we'll be here before we know it. Howie, man.
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Yeah, howie all day. He takes thing to ski mask
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way Yes, he does. Well, yeah and in plain sight
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because and that's the other thing you look at
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all these other teams You all these other teams
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have the same opportunities, but here he goes.
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He's like, you know what damn it? We're just
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gonna roll the dice and make these acquisitions
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And you know, and we're gonna you know cherry
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pick these players that fit here with us and
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fit the culture Yeah, man, I'm excited man. Let's
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see how things go. Yes, sir So you want to talk
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about these Packers? Yeah. Packers playing the
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Panthers, what you got on it? Yeah, so, you know,
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we mentioned the Eagles are going to play the
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Packers. Speaking of the Packers, I think they
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were your pick out of the NFC. The Packers were
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my pick out of the NFC. So we've both taken Ls
21:25
this week. As one of the teams you believed in.
21:28
And yes, we both take Ls. They decided that they
21:31
would lose to the Carolina Panthers at Lambeau.
21:34
in which the Panthers dominated the clock. They
21:38
run the ball. That's their strength. And they
21:42
had a chance really to put that game away. Somehow
21:45
Mike Jackson dropped a duck of a pass by Jordan
21:49
Love that should have been a 105 yard pick six.
21:54
Only that allowed the Packers to tie that game.
21:57
Ultimately then the Panthers won with the field
21:59
goal. But that's a let down, man. We've seen
22:01
this from the Packers, right? They're hyped because
22:04
they got Michael Parsons. They're hyped because
22:06
Jordan Love will wait for him to take that next
22:08
step. He had a really good playoff run a few
22:10
years ago. And they've got all these weapons.
22:14
They obviously lost Tucker Kraft, which is going
22:16
to hurt them. They're banged up in the receivers.
22:19
Now, again, I don't want nobody to be hurt, but
22:21
it is perfect timing. They're about to play the
22:24
Eagles. Again, I don't know again. Does it show
22:28
like are the Packers are they just not for real?
22:31
Because they've had these letdowns tying the
22:33
Cowboys losing to the Panthers no disrespect
22:35
to the Panthers But again every other week, you
22:37
don't know what you get, right? They are much
22:40
better with Brett Bryce Young than Andy Dalton.
22:42
That is for sure and Rico Dowdell has been great
22:45
for the Panthers, but this is more about the
22:46
Packers and again to lose at home is a big deal
22:52
to the Panthers who at best probably finished
22:55
500 or a game below this year? Yeah, so I Like
23:02
looking at the game like watching the game it
23:06
seemed really Like a slow -paced game It seemed
23:10
like a game that that had to be slow in order
23:12
for the Panthers to really have a chance But
23:15
was most glaring to me about the game as a whole
23:18
was that Bryce Young only had a hundred yards
23:20
passing He had 102 yards passing. So their defense
23:25
held up. Like you said, you mentioned Micah Parsons
23:27
and you know that acquisition and just how strong
23:29
it was. It was also a game that was won with
23:32
a field goal at the very end. So the Packers
23:34
were competitive. Still a big letdown. I believe
23:36
they were favored in that game. They still should
23:38
have won it. So I'm not going to try to defend
23:40
them. But even with the huge letdowns that they've
23:44
had this year, they're still 5 -2 -1 in any NFC.
23:49
They still have an opportunity to kind of turn
23:51
things around. It's just unfortunate that these
23:53
are one of these games as this was their get
23:56
right game at home. And they should have been
23:59
able to kind of, you know, clear a path where
24:01
they can just go ahead and just take the Panthers
24:02
out and secure this win. They weren't able to
24:05
do it. But hats off to the Panthers, man. They
24:07
went on the road and got a tough win against
24:10
a team that I don't think they really had a shot
24:12
against. They got the opportunity to keep the
24:14
game close at the very end, kick a long field
24:17
goal, win it, take that win home, bring it back
24:20
to Charlotte. Hats off to them, man. I can't,
24:22
I don't have a bad word to say about them. Good
24:24
job. They did what they needed to do. Yeah, I
24:27
will say it's Bryce Young's best one so far as
24:30
a pro. The Packers, this is how bad it is, though.
24:34
The Panthers on the road have been horrible this
24:36
year. The only road win they had was against
24:39
the Jets, and they suck. So to go into Lambeau
24:43
and win, that's a huge deal. And again, it's
24:45
a letdown for the Packers. And again, we don't
24:48
need them to bounce back against the Eagles once
24:49
again. They played them next. But I think they'll
24:52
still be a playoff team. They got some divisional
24:55
games left. But again, they'll still finish 10,
24:58
11 wins. Got it. And I mean, it's going to happen,
25:01
you know, the teams, I feel like every season,
25:07
a great team loses a game where it's the what
25:10
the hell happened type of game. And, you know,
25:13
this was just, it just happened to be their game.
25:14
We'll see if things fizzle out. Maybe it's, maybe
25:16
it's the beginning of the end for them. Maybe
25:18
this is their downward spiral. I personally don't
25:20
think so, but it was a game that they sure certainly
25:23
should have won. But again, the Panthers went
25:25
out there and did what they needed to do. Bryce
25:27
Yarrow was like, give me a dollar and two yards
25:30
and I'm going to make this work. And he did it.
25:32
It's all he needed to get the win, get the field
25:34
goal at the end. you know congrats i'm gonna
25:37
i'm gonna you know take my hat off to them you
25:39
know good for them and you know we'll see we'll
25:41
see what the packers can do next week yeah on
25:50
to another team that that lost this past weekend
25:53
and it was a big game bill's chiefs but i think
25:57
we gotta yeah but i think we gotta talk like
25:59
right now the chiefs are looking into the playoffs
26:01
they're only outside looking in I still think
26:04
they make the playoffs, but they've got some
26:07
tough games as well. Divisional games, Broncos,
26:10
things like that. But it's a really, once again,
26:13
they're five and four, so not at the moment.
26:17
So their season's not over, but we hype up Mahomes.
26:21
They say he's an MVP candidate. He didn't have
26:23
a good game. Buffalo is showing up now two weeks
26:27
in a row. Now, one was against the Panthers and
26:29
Andy Dalton, but now against the Chiefs. You
26:32
know, these are those games every season. And
26:35
I know we're talking about the Chiefs, and it's
26:36
like I said, until you beat them, they're still
26:39
the team to beat in AFC, right? Until you knock
26:41
them out of the playoffs, they're the team. So
26:44
every time the Ravens, the Bills, I don't overreact
26:47
and say, oh my God, the Buffalo Bills, they're
26:49
ready now, because they got to do it in the playoffs.
26:52
And until they do that, then the Chiefs are still
26:54
the team to beat. True and and looking at the
26:58
Chiefs and again, I'm gonna stand on my I don't
27:01
trust any team in the NFL Everyone's up and down
27:04
If there is a team with a resume out of the entire
27:08
league out of every team that's played this season
27:10
The Chiefs have had they haven't had bad losses
27:14
Chargers 27 and 21 loss of the Eagles 20 to 17
27:19
kept that game close loss of the Jags 31 28,
27:23
you know, Josh Allen into bills The Chiefs still
27:26
had a chance to win that game against Josh Allen
27:29
28 -21. They were still in reach. So they're
27:34
competitive. It took them a while. They seem
27:37
to get their flow back. And also, their wins
27:39
are big wins. Ravens, 37 -20. Giants, 22 -9.
27:45
Lions, 30 -17. Raiders, blowout, 31 -0. Commanders,
27:49
28 -7. So when they're on it, You know, they're
27:53
a tough team and a tough matchup for anyone.
27:55
It's just that those losses hurt and such with
27:58
their division being so competitive this year.
28:00
But when you talk about them going into the playoffs,
28:04
I don't know what their playoff matchup is going
28:08
to look like. And the thing that's most overlooked
28:11
about the Chiefs is that when they made their
28:13
Super Bowl runs and they were having all of the
28:15
success, they were hosting playoff games. I have
28:18
no idea what the Chiefs are going to look like
28:20
on the road. in the playoffs and you know I could
28:23
I could probably pull up their playoff road record
28:25
but to my knowledge when they're playing on the
28:27
road they're not a good team in the playoffs
28:30
yeah I think I think maybe one year they had
28:32
to go on the road to get to the Super Bowl but
28:36
for the most part, we're used to seeing teams
28:38
having to go into Kansas City to win. Go in the
28:41
arrowhead and win those games. I think this year,
28:44
it's not going to be that way. Yeah, that's a
28:47
tough road. It's hard to do. And so much so to
28:50
where it drastically changes your odds of making
28:55
it to a Super Bowl when you have to go and win.
28:58
And especially, look, again, just going off of
29:00
where they are right now, their third in their
29:02
own division. Okay, so they're third in their
29:04
own division, which means that in order and the
29:07
only way that they'll be able As of now to proceed
29:10
is it win a wild card game? And then win every
29:15
single game on the road en route to a super bowl.
29:18
I don't see it It's very hard to do who's who's
29:21
done that the last time the um, didn't uh, eli
29:24
manning giant Didn't eli manning giants do that
29:26
twice? I think they did that twice. So I mean
29:29
like it's rare Yeah, but it's rare. It's very
29:33
rare and it's the toughest road, especially now
29:34
the way it's set up, the playoff bracket. But
29:38
the Chiefs, again, you talk about, you know,
29:40
they're behind the Broncos and Chargers. Well,
29:42
speaking of the team I don't trust, that's the
29:44
Chargers. I don't trust the Broncos either. I
29:48
don't trust them either. I really don't either.
29:50
Like you said, I'm starting to come to your side
29:53
as there's more and more teams I just don't trust.
29:56
I don't care what they do. I mean, Broncos, I
29:59
mean, winning is the main thing. They've won
30:01
some ugly games, but as far as the Chiefs are
30:03
concerned, again, going to be a tough out no
30:06
matter where they play, because again, they have
30:08
that championship pedigree. They still have Andy
30:11
Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, and they
30:14
still have the referees. So they'll be fine.
30:16
I guess they do. And the other thing I'll say
30:19
is this, and this is just something to remember
30:22
about the Chiefs. So we're sitting here, we're
30:24
talking about like just the division record as
30:25
a whole. They haven't played the Broncos yet.
30:28
Oh, no, they got twice. Yeah, they got two games
30:30
versus the broncos their next game is going to
30:32
be up against the broncos You know, they'll still
30:34
got that extra other game against the chargers
30:37
Yeah, and then you know and then and this is
30:39
the other crazy thing and this is going to sound
30:41
ridiculous now But you guys know how this goes
30:44
they in their regular season playing against
30:46
the Raiders I know they blew the Raiders out
30:49
but division games are always a coin toss So
30:52
maybe they show up and hand the Raiders you know,
30:56
another ass kicking, but that last game of the
30:59
season, they're still going to have to go to
31:02
Vegas and win that game. And who knows what their
31:05
record is? They may need it to secure and lock
31:07
in a playoff spot. Those division games are always
31:10
a coin flip. I don't care what division you're
31:12
in. True. And they have the Colts and at Dallas.
31:16
So not at Dallas. Yes. Not an easy, uh, not an
31:20
easy schedule. No, no, no, not at all. I totally
31:23
agree. Another quarterback revived reviving his
31:31
career and another team that we got to say, is
31:33
this real or not? And it's the Seattle Seahawks
31:36
and Sam Darnal. Yeah, the Seattle Seahawks. Um,
31:41
you know, obviously we spoke about the, uh, the
31:43
Jaden Daniels injury, um, earlier it, you know,
31:47
so that, that kind of, I don't want to write
31:50
off that when they, they went and got that wind,
31:51
but right now they sit atop the NFC West, which
31:54
is, you know, I want to say probably one of the
31:57
better divisions in football in the last decade.
32:00
Well right now. Go ahead. Go ahead. That's something
32:03
they're saying. This season is very competitive.
32:05
Super competitive. And those teams, you know,
32:08
I kind of liken them to the NFC East where the
32:12
teams are always so competitive against one another
32:14
that they beat each other up and kind of make
32:17
the records, you know, look a little mismatch.
32:20
But the Seahawks are looking good. You know,
32:23
right now they're six and two. They're, they're
32:25
playing good enough football, but I mean, I just,
32:31
I hate being negative Nancy, man. I hate being
32:32
the downer. I just, I don't, I don't know what
32:36
they're going to look like when the playoffs
32:38
come. And there's so many other veteran teams
32:41
that they're going to have to go up against that.
32:44
I don't know if I, if I'm fully buying in on
32:47
them, but right now they're doing what they need
32:48
to do. How do you feel about them? I think they're
32:52
a playoff team. Now again, I look at their schedule
32:56
and I don't trust them Donald. I think he'll
32:58
put up great numbers. I just don't trust them
33:01
And so I look at their schedule. They have four
33:04
more division games two against the Rams and
33:09
they got the Cardinals and the Niners and then
33:11
they also play at Carolina against the Minnesota
33:15
and Then they're at Atlanta which Atlanta is
33:19
a tricky one. That's they're always a trap game
33:21
for everybody apparent nowadays But I'm going
33:24
to circle this on the calendar because we talked
33:26
about the Seahawks and we've talked about the
33:29
Colts. We talked about Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold.
33:32
They play Sunday, December 14th. So the battle
33:35
of the backups that have revived their careers,
33:39
the two teams, we'll see where they're at on
33:41
December 14th. But I'm going to circle that.
33:44
I'm interested to see, like, that could be a
33:46
pivotal game for either team. Yeah, I got you
33:49
know and I agree with you and you know looking
33:52
at the schedule that was actually something that
33:53
I missed I didn't realize that they'd get to
33:56
actually play the Rams and they have to play
33:58
them twice And much like we were talking about
34:01
with with Kansas Kansas City having to go to
34:03
Vegas to play Oakland in their last game Yeah,
34:06
I don't care who it is. I don't care who their
34:08
quarterback is The Seahawks are gonna have to
34:10
end their season playing the 49ers in San Francisco
34:14
It's gonna be a tough game no matter what another
34:16
division game I like the way the the league has
34:19
kind of you know staggered these records to where
34:21
you get big games at the end and Who knows? I
34:24
mean even if the if the 49ers are flailing and
34:26
they've got nothing going on There's nothing
34:29
that'll make that that team that franchise and
34:31
that fan base happier than spoiling the Seahawks
34:34
run to make a playoff appearance So, you know
34:38
We'll have to see I'm circling that game You
34:40
know, the end of the year is always fun, especially
34:42
when teams are kind of out in front and maybe,
34:45
you know, they have a nice little padded record
34:47
and they start resting guys, you know, to go
34:49
into the playoffs. I don't know if the Seahawks
34:51
will be that good to where they'll be able to
34:53
do that. They may have to play all the way through,
34:55
but they better, they better watch their ass,
34:57
man. Cause playing the 49ers, I can, I can see
34:59
them taking an L that week. Well, the 49ers just,
35:02
you mentioned though, they beat the Seahawks
35:04
in week one, which that's a, that's week one,
35:06
but they beat them at Seattle. So again the 49ers
35:10
are no slouch all the injuries all that stuff
35:11
Shanahan they'll have he'll have his team ready
35:13
so that is a that is a huge game uh and and it
35:17
could decide it could decide if the 49ers or
35:21
the seahawks make the playoffs because again
35:23
uh you know i still like the rams in that division
35:25
but um but for seattle again like you said another
35:29
team that i mean i don't know if it's real or
35:31
not i don't trust sam darnold so you know It's
35:38
not a lot of people who trust Sam Darnold. And
35:41
just real quick, just to kind of rattle this
35:43
off for the NFC West, the only team that's not
35:46
really holding their own is the Cardinals. Seahawks
35:48
six and two, Rams six and two, 49ers six and
35:51
three. I mean, that's as neck and neck as you're
35:54
going to get in a division that competitive.
35:56
And like you said, you know, they've yet to play
35:59
the Rams. So it's going to be fun, man. It's
36:01
going to be a good, it's going to be a good close
36:02
to the rest of the season. I'm actually, I'm
36:04
actually really excited for it. I'm usually more
36:06
excited for the beginning parts of the year,
36:08
but, but, but for this season, man, yeah, it's
36:11
going to be, it's going to be really good as,
36:13
as teams kind of try to round out their wins
36:15
and be competitive toward the end of the year.
36:18
Yes. And, uh, so I got one more team. I put it
36:21
on the list. We don't have it on this list, but
36:22
can we talk about the Bengals? Sure. Yeah, go
36:26
ahead. So I saw you. Hold on. Now, because you
36:30
put it on there. And I think you were looking
36:33
at this. And correct me if I'm wrong. You were
36:35
looking at this from a coaching perspective.
36:37
And you were kind of looking at their wins and
36:39
losses. And I kind of know what you're getting
36:44
at. But explain yourself, because I have a rebuttal.
36:47
But I do want to hear what you got to say. So
36:50
I've got a couple things. Two things. Two things.
36:55
I got inside joke. So to bingles, I told you,
37:01
I said, Zach Taylor, I think is officially on
37:04
the hot seat list. I kept them off early because
37:08
Joe Burrow got hurt. And then they had a divisional
37:13
win against the Steelers. OK. But since then,
37:17
they gave the they blew a game in which they
37:20
gave the Jets their first win of the season.
37:25
And then they managed this past Sunday to be
37:30
up by 14. It was 41 to 27. They allowed the Bears
37:35
to score and get a two point conversion. Then
37:39
get, what was it? Or they, what was it? No, I'm
37:42
sorry. They came back, right? No, they came back.
37:48
All right, let's read. Yeah, they were down.
37:51
Cut some of this out. Yeah. All right, so the
37:53
Beagles end. So this game, last past Sunday against
37:55
the Bears, they were down. They came back. They
37:58
took the lead. I thought the game was over. We
38:03
all did. So then they managed to give up a 58
38:10
-yard touchdown in which neither safety knows
38:13
how to tackle. And the Bears... They missed the
38:17
tackle. They hit them. They don't wrap them up.
38:19
Loveland, he goes all the way in for the touchdown.
38:21
Bears win the game. Again, I know the players
38:26
have to make the plays, but those are two bad
38:31
losses. And again, we can't keep saying, well,
38:35
the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but
38:38
like, and our offense is good. Their defense
38:40
is bad. Even in wins, their defense is bad. And
38:44
on the flip side, I'm gonna let you, you know,
38:47
reply to that. You know, I saw something, and
38:50
I thought of this too. Is the offense just so
38:53
good that you can just plug anybody at quarterback?
38:55
Now, Jake Browning wasn't good, but Joe Flacco
38:59
is doing just what Joe Burrow would be doing
39:01
right now. So the offense, I don't think is the
39:04
problem, unless you have somebody like, I guess,
39:06
Jake Browning, who just turns the ball over.
39:09
But they haven't fixed the defense. I don't know
39:13
if it's the coaching, I don't know if it's the
39:15
execution, but even in wins, they're giving up
39:17
tons of yards, tons of points, and then now,
39:20
again, blowing a lead to the Jets, a heck of
39:23
a comeback, but already had given up 41 points
39:26
to the Bears, and then give up that kind of touchdown
39:30
to end the game, to let the Bears take the lead.
39:34
It's just bad losses, and I don't know if I can
39:37
keep, I didn't say for sure, I just don't know
39:39
if I can keep defending Zach Taylor and say,
39:41
Maybe it's just Tom. All right. So I like a team
39:50
that can make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
39:57
OK, so Burrow goes down early in the year. We
40:01
write them off. We're like, man, it's over. It's
40:04
going to be done for them. But when you talk
40:08
about their defense, I understand that there's
40:12
a lot that can be done from a coaching perspective
40:15
on the defensive side of the ball, but sometimes
40:18
you just don't have the players, you don't have
40:20
the right guys, and it's just not going to work
40:22
well for you. He got, he picked, you know, he
40:26
made a trade for a veteran quarterback in Joe
40:29
Flacco who was too long in the tooth. None of
40:31
us really even paid any attention to us, to that
40:34
trade when it was made. The trade was made and
40:36
we all just went, eh, doesn't really matter too
40:39
much. When the trade was made, the conversation
40:42
was more about whether or not Shador Sanders
40:43
was going to start for the Browns more than what
40:47
Joe Flacco could do for the Bengals. And since
40:49
then, all they've done is put up points. 42 points
40:53
against the Bears, 38 points against the Jets.
40:56
Like you said, 33 against the Steelers, 27 against
40:59
the Packers. There's opportunities for them to
41:05
be able to put up points and win games. We didn't
41:09
expect any of that from them. If your defense
41:13
is getting the doors blown off of them, maybe
41:16
there's some of that that could be done, you
41:17
know, having to do with the coach. But they're
41:20
working with what they have. And I think they're
41:23
doing as best as they can. And it's tough when
41:27
you can't win close games. I get it. Losing to
41:29
the Jets has to hurt. But, you know, still a
41:33
division game is still a game that You know that
41:36
the Jets are going to show up and try to be competitive
41:38
in. So I want to give Zach Taylor a little bit
41:42
of grace. I know it looks bad, and it's horrible
41:45
on paper. And to win in that fashion and to let
41:48
the Bears put up 47 points on you, I mean, it's
41:53
a horrible look. But I'm not looking to run that
41:55
dude out of town just yet. I'm not the guy that
41:58
likes to kind of run and fire somebody that quick.
42:01
OK. I can live with that. I'm just like said,
42:03
I wanted to bring it to the forefront to say,
42:05
hey, you know, maybe I don't know, he needs,
42:08
he needs to be on the list though. Maybe at the
42:10
bottom, but he needs to be on that list. And
42:12
then, uh, you know, I know I threw some random
42:15
stuff out there about the offense, but you know,
42:18
Flacco is serviceable. And, uh, again, you give
42:21
that man that those many weapons, I guess he
42:23
can be an old looking Joe burrow out there just
42:26
slinging it around. But the other thing I'm going
42:28
to say is, I saw this today and I laughed. I
42:30
didn't send it to you. And I didn't know what
42:33
we were going to talk about, really. I didn't
42:34
know if it was going to have the Bengals on here.
42:36
But there was a great idea I saw online today.
42:40
And it said, at this point, the Bengals offense
42:42
and the Browns defense should come together to
42:45
form one team from Ohio that would be the most
42:48
dominant. Wow. And I think it's the greatest
42:52
idea I've heard in a while. Yeah, no, it would
42:54
be funny. And yeah, I mean, if you can put, yeah,
42:58
I mean, because their Browns defense is legit,
43:00
man. And you know, yes, they can't do it all.
43:02
I mean, they can't play defense, stop teams from
43:04
running, stop teams from throwing the ball all
43:06
over them and score points. No, you know, so
43:08
like their defense is so good. The Bengals offense
43:11
is so good. But then on the other side, they
43:13
suck something awful. Yeah, terrible. And let's
43:16
combine them. Yeah, yeah. No, we can put them
43:19
together. And yeah, I don't know. I don't know
43:20
what we'll call them. I mean, we could come up
43:23
with a nice, creative name. I'm trying my hardest
43:26
to defend Zach Taylor I'm outnumbered probably
43:29
because it is a terrible look especially two
43:31
weeks in a row to two teams that they were that
43:34
they should have beaten because they had the
43:36
ability to score more points in them, but Realistically,
43:41
I think it's gonna be over for Zach Taylor because
43:44
here's here's their record in consecutive weeks
43:47
their next game the Steelers the Patriots the
43:51
Ravens the Bills and the Ravens again and that
43:56
and that so that's their next five games they
44:00
could go one and four they could go oh and five
44:03
and i don't think that dude will make it to the
44:06
end of the year losing those games and every
44:08
single one of those teams are killers Steelers,
44:11
Patriots, Ravens, Bills and then having to play
44:13
the Ravens again with Lamar Jackson just being
44:15
back looking healthy slinging that pill around
44:19
Derrick Henry, still a monster. Like it's going
44:21
to be ugly for them. You got to play the Ravens
44:23
twice and you got to pay the bills at home. It
44:27
could get real ugly for Zach Taylor. And if he's
44:29
lucky, if he could, if he could be 500, you know,
44:33
going through the rest of the year, maybe he'll
44:34
be lucky enough to save his job. Yeah, I think
44:37
it makes it through the rest of the year, but
44:38
on off season, they're going to have to think
44:40
things. All right, you guys know we like to end
44:51
our show with something fun something silly and
44:53
you know Just something that we can have some
44:54
fun with and you know, so this past NFL week,
44:58
you know Just watching all the games a lot of
45:00
great games a lot of great matchups and there
45:02
were just some games that just seemed really
45:04
boring to me I think that you know, the game
45:07
of the week was between the you know, the Bills
45:09
and the Chiefs, you know Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes
45:11
they've had that rivalry for years and It's just
45:14
something about that game that was born as hell
45:16
man. Like so the Bills were doing this thing
45:19
I think they call it a tush push. I don't know
45:24
if you heard of it, but it's this thing where
45:26
everyone rushes up to the line and you hand the
45:30
ball off and then you just kind of just push
45:31
the ball forward. Super boring, you know, it's
45:34
a dangerous play, you know, it's high risk of
45:36
injuries and you know I think it's something
45:39
that the league should really look into if I'm
45:42
not mistaken I think Drew Brees has something
45:43
early in the year about how you know It's just
45:45
a boring type of offense and you know We saw
45:47
it there were there some other teams that stood
45:49
out to you who did something similar like to
45:51
that this weekend Yeah, you said the Bills they
45:54
use Josh Allen. I saw the Seahawks. They use
45:57
the tight end in any of these times. Did you?
46:00
Did you happen to see like any false starts called
46:02
or was there any? No, I didn't see any false
46:05
starts. I mean, I just saw that the lines would
46:09
get up. They would get up to the line and get
46:10
really low. And the first thing I was thinking
46:13
about was just the danger and the safety of the
46:15
players. I think this is important. I know the
46:18
NFL, they got real big on the concussions and
46:21
just trying to prevent injuries. They changed
46:23
the entire kickoff structure. They just want
46:25
to make sure that players stay safe throughout
46:27
the rest of the season. So yeah, I mean, that's
46:30
the first thing that kind of stood out to me.
46:32
I think it's something that - they should be
46:33
looked into. Yeah, I think there was more teams.
46:36
I didn't see every game and see every highlight,
46:38
but I heard, you know, I saw that was like it
46:41
was a lot. It was a lot of tush pushing going
46:43
on Sunday and they're like you said, safety is
46:45
huge and I just can't see why the league would
46:48
let this continue the whole league doing this.
46:51
And then also, you know, it's illegal if they're
46:53
going to be offsides or false starts. I don't
46:56
know. Was it like the commentators say anything?
46:59
Did the other defenses get mad to date like?
47:02
you know, start yelling and crying and stuff?
47:04
No, I didn't see any of that. And I mean, look,
47:07
man, I'm I'm a down to earth guy. I like to call
47:11
things as I see it. And I think what's most important
47:14
is that we do our best to make sure that in the
47:17
off season, that all the NFL teams get together
47:20
and vote on whether or not this should be something
47:22
that's ruled out of the game. I think they should
47:25
make this something illegal so that it never
47:27
takes place again. I think it gives the teams
47:29
an unfair advantage. And I don't know if anybody's
47:33
picking up on all of our sarcasm. It's complete
47:38
bullshit that all these other teams could do
47:40
the touch push, you know, and no one bats an
47:43
eye No one says anything. I didn't see anybody,
47:45
you know uh, uh, calling, calling when other
47:48
teams do it boring and you know, the, the percentage
47:51
of plays that they do it, they need to pick up
47:53
a yard. They do it. They need to do to pick up
47:55
a yard. The Eagles came up with the tush push.
47:57
It was a great idea. It worked for them. Now
48:00
other teams are emulating it and now it's crickets
48:03
across, you know, sports coverage everywhere,
48:05
all over TV, all over internet, all over radio
48:08
and all over podcasts and except right here,
48:11
we don't call that shit out. Cause I don't like
48:13
it. Yeah, nobody, you know, I heard the commentators,
48:15
they would like jokingly say, oh, that's their
48:18
version of the tush push. There was no zooming
48:20
in cameras on the offensive line about false
48:22
starts. ESPN wasn't talking about forward progress.
48:25
They weren't leading off this morning with tush
48:28
pushing. So again, I'm glad I'm glad the rest
48:32
of the league can finally do what they could
48:34
have been doing for the last five years. Yeah,
48:37
yeah same here and you know and this was something
48:40
that we talked about I think was one of our first
48:42
episodes we ever did where we were talking about
48:44
just how all these different teams Had the opportunity
48:48
in the offseason if they thought that this was
48:50
something that could work to their benefit They
48:53
had a chance to come up with their own version
48:55
and renditions of it You know it took until the
48:57
middle of the season for them to figure it out
48:59
You know good for them if it works for them great.
49:02
Maybe some of them only use it in certain situations
49:05
before the Eagles has been effective for what?
49:07
Almost three years now? Oh, three, four years.
49:11
I mean, four years. Yes, I'm saying like we're
49:13
like four and a half years and now finally NFL
49:15
teams are doing it. And again, like I said, you
49:18
know, in all season, let's see if they all these
49:21
teams that are using it will vote against it.
49:24
Yeah, yeah, we'll see. You know, but again, I'm
49:27
going to give and I gave credit. to the teams
49:29
i think we actually rattled them off when we
49:31
talked about it last the teams that voted say
49:34
no no no no no let's leave this in we're not
49:36
going to vote against the touch which is why
49:38
it was able to be you know uh... still still
49:41
play that can still be ran in the league it was
49:43
not voted against but you know it's just kind
49:46
of funny and i think i might need to go back
49:47
and check that list to see if any of the teams
49:49
who who decided to do it Yeah, you know over
49:52
over the weekend over the last few weekends if
49:54
any of those teams actually voted against it
49:56
You know, I love pointing out a hypocrite man.
49:59
I love pointing that shit out Yeah, so again.
50:02
Yeah, so today we had fun with the topic being
50:05
fun and sarcastic On this tush push topic. Yeah,
50:09
but of course, I mean, I don't want to see it
50:11
outlawed It's it's a play. You know, it's a play
50:14
that works. That's effective Any team can do
50:16
it. Every team's got big guys on it. Every team's
50:19
got stud athletes. Figure out how you're going
50:22
to do it. I mean, you've got tape on it for years.
50:25
You've seen the Eagles do it successfully. And
50:28
I mean, and if it's done well, you don't need
50:30
a quarterback like Jalen Hurst that can squat
50:32
700 pounds to do it. It helps, but yeah. I'm
50:36
pretty sure, I'm pretty sure the guys, you know,
50:38
all the quarterbacks except, you know, maybe
50:40
the smaller ones or have a good enough size and
50:42
have got a big enough O line to where they can
50:44
push a ball forward and pick up one yard. Yeah.
50:47
Yeah. No tush pushing Jaden Daniels. No, not
50:50
at all. We don't, we don't want him to, you know,
50:52
snap in half. No, no, you're right. Like I said,
50:57
no tush pushing him. No, no tush push with Jaden
51:00
Daniels or Calamari. No, Jaden Daniels has got
51:04
to double up on that chunky suit. Yeah, he's
51:06
gonna have to, man. I mean, he's shockingly thin.
51:11
And I'll end on this, man. Again, and I asked
51:13
a question earlier and I was thinking here, man,
51:14
I was racking my brain. NFL history, as long
51:17
as you've been watching football your whole life,
51:19
dude, can you remember a quarterback that thin?
51:25
No, I mean, I cannot. I can remember the thick
51:30
quarterbacks. No, no, I mean, like, I mean, like,
51:33
there's, there's long thin coin, cause like Brady
51:36
wasn't a big guy. He wasn't that skinny. I think
51:39
I brought up Mariota. Um, you know, he wasn't
51:42
that skinny. Brady at the combine looks skinny,
51:46
look frail, but not this for, I mean, like I
51:48
said, Jayden Daniels is an athlete, obviously
51:50
very good and obviously has proven himself. But
51:54
like we said, looking at his frame, like I said,
51:55
he is skinny. Like we talk about, I think Bryce
51:57
Young is still small. Not just short, I think
52:01
he's short and frail. But again, he competes,
52:04
he takes hits, and you just never know which
52:07
hit's gonna do it. But the thing about that is,
52:10
and I can't really think of another quarterback
52:12
that's then this skinny, but the only thing I
52:16
think about, you know, the other thing I think
52:17
about is the big quarterbacks that take a beating.
52:20
We talked about it on another episode. These
52:22
big quarterbacks in history have taken hits,
52:25
and their lifespan in the NFL is short. So again,
52:30
it's like these these skinny quarterbacks. What
52:32
do you expect? You know? Gotcha. Yeah, you know
52:35
and and I'm and I'm just going back and I'm just
52:37
looking at some of the some of the quarterbacks
52:40
on On the list of just kind of thin There's one
52:44
that kind of stands out to me because I don't
52:46
remember him being thin coming out of Louisville
52:48
but Apparently Teddy Bridgewater was pretty thin.
52:52
Okay you know and and i and i don't remember
52:55
that now of course he bulked up and that dude
52:56
put on weight like i don't think anybody would
52:58
call him thin now but you know apparently when
53:01
he went through the combine he was rated on the
53:03
thin side and i mean i i maybe i have to go back
53:07
and look at the photos nothing in comparison
53:09
to what jaden daniels is like it's scary how
53:11
frail he looks you know who has a starting nfl
53:14
quarterback you know who else was skinny uh kind
53:17
of not he wasn't frail but randall cunningham
53:19
was kind of that lanky But he got injuries too,
53:25
so not to just call it an eagle there, but I
53:27
think Randall looked kind of skinny at times.
53:30
They wore more pads back then. Not to sound like
53:33
an old man, but again, nowadays, they barely
53:36
wear pads in their pants and their shoulder pads
53:38
are so little. So I mean, there's no wonder there's
53:41
so many injuries. All right, that's another episode
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