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Baker Mayfield's Hidden Injury, Schefter's Big Payday, Aaron Donald Watch & Stefon Diggs Speaks Out + NFL Offseason Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people? How are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecock Three and Out Podcast. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk some quarterback, what it takes to play quarterback. And
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield made some news on the Netflix show about
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  Speaker 1: an injury he dealt with last year. Much injuries, we'll
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  Speaker 1: dive into that. Aaron Donald, the reason that he was
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  Speaker 1: training at the what he was looking to get out
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  Speaker 1: of it. Some thoughts on Adam Schefter He's going nowhere
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  Speaker 1: signs a big extension Dad Diaries, as well, some mailbag
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  Speaker 1: So let's just dive into some ball. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield said on The Quarterback Show, I saw the
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  Speaker 1: clip going viral of how he took out his wife
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  Speaker 1: on the day before game I think was his last
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  Speaker 1: game he played in college against Georgia, which I was
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  Speaker 1: I thought Oklahoma was gonna win it all. Just devastating loss.
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  Speaker 1: They had Sony Michelle, Nick Chubb, those two running backs.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when nuts in that game and they lose, And
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  Speaker 1: then like three days later he had just met her.
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  Speaker 1: He moved in with her, and six months later they're married.
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  Speaker 1: Now they got a couple of kids, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: Baker's resurrected his career and become, you know, a guy
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  Speaker 1: that people really enjoy. He was just in Lake Tahoe,
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  Speaker 1: came up to my brother in law, I think I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned this the other day taking pictures with their baby,
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  Speaker 1: because they're big Oklahoma people, and he's just He's a
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  Speaker 1: very likable guy. I've always been a big fan. I
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  Speaker 1: know Colin was down on him early. I was way high.
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  Speaker 1: I loved him coming out of the draft. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he was going to be like Drew Breese. Turns out
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  Speaker 1: that's not really the style of quarterback he is. He's
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  Speaker 1: like a shittier version of farv you know, he's not
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  Speaker 1: as big, he's not as strong, he's not really as quick,
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  Speaker 1: but that's he's just kind of a gunslinger. And there's
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  Speaker 1: something about when he's on, when you're watching him, that
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  Speaker 1: makes you a mote, It makes you feel something. And
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  Speaker 1: he's been like that since college. When Baker's right, he's
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  Speaker 1: honestly one of my favorite players. I will say that
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  Speaker 1: coming out that he had a sprain knee, that he
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  Speaker 1: here's knee week two. Obviously they didn't have a good season.
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  Speaker 1: Florio did a big ride up today that the knee
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  Speaker 1: injury didn't even come on the injury report to like
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  Speaker 1: week ten. Just know this when you were gambling on
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  Speaker 1: this is not the NBA. Guys are going to play
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  Speaker 1: in games with injuries that no one knows about, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: including the team. So this is a sport where you
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  Speaker 1: are hurt the entire time. The question is how hurt
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  Speaker 1: are you? Because obviously there are injuries like last year
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  Speaker 1: Purty or Joe Burrow. You get a severe enough injury
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  Speaker 1: you cannot play, but guys will battle through a lot
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  Speaker 1: of shit. Kyle Shanahan earlier this year with Tom Tolbert,
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  Speaker 1: and he's told this story before Party's first year as
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  Speaker 1: a starter. After the injuries, hurts his shoulder in a game,
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  Speaker 1: cannot they're playing. The next game is on a Thursday
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  Speaker 1: night against Seattle. Can't can barely move it Monday or Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't throw Wednesday. He made a game plan for Josh
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  Speaker 1: Johnson because they didn't think Purdy was gonna be able
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  Speaker 1: to go. Shot that bad boy up with Towrderol told
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  Speaker 1: him right before the game, like I think I can go,
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  Speaker 1: and he played. That's the NFL, that's the culture. It's
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  Speaker 1: why we enjoy this. You know, McGregor has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of red flags outside of the octagon. He's been involved
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  Speaker 1: in some uncomfortable situations, to say the least. And guess
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  Speaker 1: what happens when he was gonna fight and everyone thought
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  Speaker 1: that he could, it was gonna be fun and good.
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  Speaker 1: We all watched we take off the moral police. When
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  Speaker 1: it comes to violence, we yearn for it when you
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  Speaker 1: put it in front of us. Going back to when
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  Speaker 1: we're junior high in high school and people are fighting,
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  Speaker 1: everyone surrounds them and football is like the greatest team
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  Speaker 1: sport with violence. We love it and what these guys
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  Speaker 1: go through and have to battle through the gladiator nature
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  Speaker 1: of the sport. We think about it when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to linebackers or tight ends like Gronkowski or Kittle or lineman. Right,
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  Speaker 1: will play through anything, throw some fucking dirt on it. Quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I remember hearing Drew Brees say this a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: He was like playing quarterback the ratio mental to physical,
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  Speaker 1: and his might have been different because who he was
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  Speaker 1: like physically, he wasn't that big, wasn't that fast, didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a great arm, but he thought I remember him
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  Speaker 1: saying like seventy or seventy five to thirty upstairs verse downstairs.
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  Speaker 1: And I think when you talk about mentally, they're not
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  Speaker 1: just talking about being able to read a defense, being
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  Speaker 1: able to understand coverages. Obviously you have to do that
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, right, being able to understand the game plan,
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  Speaker 1: being able to adjust on the fly, being able to
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  Speaker 1: know when too audible. When I think, like, what a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback needs to bring to the table mentally is mental
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  Speaker 1: toughness and to be able to battle through physical injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Starts upstairs, like what is your pain tolerance? Tony Romo
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  Speaker 1: was just on pardon my take, and he said something
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  Speaker 1: that really stood out. This was before I even saw
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  Speaker 1: the Baker Mayfield news. He's like, you know, being a
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  Speaker 1: raw rod guy in the locker room at quarterback, a
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  Speaker 1: little overrated, not necessary to be a really good player.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you can't be that. Peyton was a big barker.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously Tom was a big barker. He said. The number
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  Speaker 1: one key, though, is delayed on the line physically for
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  Speaker 1: your teammates and they'll follow. Because if you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is not even the best player on his
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  Speaker 1: own team. Right since he's been in Tampa, he's never
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  Speaker 1: been the best player on his own team. He's been
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  Speaker 1: a really good player. But when you play quarterback, even
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  Speaker 1: with a quote unquote underpaid deal, most of the time,
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  Speaker 1: you still make more than everybody. So you're more famous
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  Speaker 1: and you make more money than everybody. Think about our
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  Speaker 1: office situations. When you know someone makes more money than you,
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  Speaker 1: there's a natural jealous see envy, even if you understand like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this guy does a different role, this guy generates more money,
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  Speaker 1: But like, I think I'm better at my job than
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  Speaker 1: him if I got the opportunity, Like, we're all human beings.
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  Speaker 1: But if you see that guy that's in whatever you're
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  Speaker 1: doing making way more money than you. Be the hardest worker,
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  Speaker 1: Be the first guy in the office, be the last
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  Speaker 1: guy out, be the guy doing sales calls over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: or whatever industry you're in, going above and beyond, because
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  Speaker 1: most of our jobs are not laying on the line physically.
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  Speaker 1: But when it comes to everything possible, this guy is
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  Speaker 1: just like an A plus. It's like, God, this guy
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  Speaker 1: is a grinder. It's hard to be that envious or jealous.
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  Speaker 1: And I think at quarterback, proving your toughness, like was
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: Tony Romel the perfect quarterback? Of course not no one
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  Speaker 1: could ever dispute that that guy wouldn't die on the
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  Speaker 1: field for his teammates. And I think when you do
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  Speaker 1: that at quarterback, because think about this, and this is
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  Speaker 1: why I think Baker Mayfield's career is really taking back off,
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  Speaker 1: because everyone in that locker room respects the shit out
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: of him because they know he's banged up. Turns out
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  Speaker 1: he also heard his biceps in the season too, So
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  Speaker 1: it does bring a little more understanding to why the season. Now. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: they had injuries, Todd Bowles did not do a good
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  Speaker 1: job like they had other issues. It's not like they
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  Speaker 1: would have won the Super Bowl. But when your quarterback
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  Speaker 1: is injured, a huge bart of football is this kind
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  Speaker 1: of got to keep your fingers crossed that when the
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  Speaker 1: season starts your quarterback is relatively healthy all season long.
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  Speaker 1: Someone texts me that knew is in the loop. Let's
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  Speaker 1: say close to the situation, right after Denver lost that
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  Speaker 1: devastating game, or excuse me, the Bills lost the devastating
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  Speaker 1: game to Denver and they say, yeah, Josh has been
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: dealing with a broken toe. My god, I didn't know that,
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  Speaker 1: but you realize when you watched him play, he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: totally tell. And you know what, like his teammates told
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  Speaker 1: me that, and what happen right off of the season,
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  Speaker 1: he got surgery on his foot. But what would Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen do when it comes to the games. If he
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  Speaker 1: can physically tough it out, he will. And obviously for
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  Speaker 1: certain players, certain injuries impact you more, right, Josh Lamar
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  Speaker 1: the mobile guys, if something happens their feet or their
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  Speaker 1: lower extremities, it's a bigger deal than if it was
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  Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Like if Jared Goff has a tight hammy,
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  Speaker 1: who cares He's not really moving much? But if you
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  Speaker 1: tell me that Kyler Murray is a tight handy, it's
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  Speaker 1: a much bigger deal. And the thing I always like
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  Speaker 1: growing up in an era where quarterbacks get killed, like
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  Speaker 1: legitimately murdered on the field. Wats the John Elway Netflix
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  Speaker 1: documentary and when they do the montage of some of
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  Speaker 1: his games in the eighties, it looks like an MMA
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  Speaker 1: fight in the backfield for the quarterback. It's crazy. More
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  Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks didn't have more serious injuries, but guess
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  Speaker 1: what they were probably always injured and guess what they did.
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  Speaker 1: They played through it because that is what is required
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  Speaker 1: to play the greatest sport in the world. Football. Toughness
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  Speaker 1: is a huge part. This is not soccer where you
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  Speaker 1: just flopping lay on the ground and pretend you're knees
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  Speaker 1: ripped when you're completely fine at quarterback. Now you can
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: sell some late hits, but you're gonna get hit because
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  Speaker 1: you don't get hit in practice. So you make the
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  Speaker 1: most money, you're the most famous guy on the team,
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: and practice, which unlike these others, you don't practice in baseball.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Most NBA teams do not practice in football. The most
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: important thing for a football coach throughout the season is
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: how he structures practice each week Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, implement
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: the game plan, red zone, third down, different situations. It's
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: all coaches talk about is fucking practice. It's the opposite
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: of what Alan Iverson said. Practice that's a whole like
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: the sport is literally built around practice, and it's hard now.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: It's easier now than it once was because it's not
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: like no double days and it's not as physical, but
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  Speaker 1: the good teams are so physical. Go to a Denver practice,
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: go to Alliance practice, Go to a Kansas City Chiefs,
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: go to a Jim Harbor John Harbaugh practice. Promise you
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: this pads are popping, not with a quarterback though they
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  Speaker 1: were a different color jersey. You're not allowed to touch them.
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  Speaker 1: So it's harder for you to earn the respect of everyone.
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  Speaker 1: The only way you can prove it is on Sundays.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just throwing touchdowns and making the right
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: place obviously that matters. You know, make plays, as Charles
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Woodson used to say, work hard and make plays. But
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: you can really endure yourself to your teammates, endear, not
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  Speaker 1: endure by proving on the field that you will stay
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: in there that extra second get lit up. When I
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: was doing Raider games, I for like four straight years
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: saw Philip Rivers come through. And by no means was
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: he the perfect player. Right, He had some flaws, he
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: would throw some interceptions. But the thing you can never
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: take away from Philip Rivers is he would do everything
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  Speaker 1: humanly possible to sit in that pocket the last possible
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  Speaker 1: second to give Antonio Gates, Keenan Allen, Vincent Jackson, you
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: name it, the best opportunity to make a play down
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: the field and get open, because he would hold on
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: while he was about to get lit up like a
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Christmas tree to make that throw. And he was bigger
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: so he could handle some of the hits, but he
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: would get peppered. And that's what you have to do
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: to play quarterback. It's why, like one thing we got
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: going on, they put out a quarterback list's today the
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the NFL. I think it's kind of
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: impossible to do that if you're going off who's got
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: the best resume, Well, clearly Mahomes, but they had Mahomes
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: the second best quarterback right now, he's coming off the
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: worst season of his career, and even Chiefs fans would agree,
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: like He was bad last year again relative to his standards,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: but his standard was a top five guy of all time.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: He did not play well. It's like Josh Allen, like
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  Speaker 1: to me, has been the best quarterback for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years, but Matt Safford won the MVP. Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 1: missed the majority of the season, and then when he
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: came back wasn't that good either. I think it's very
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: You just have to be specific, like who I think
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: is gonna be the best in twenty twenty six? Okay,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: who was the best last year? Ma Homes wouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: be a top five quarterback based on last year. Neither
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: would Joe Burrow. So and I get it, we're in
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: the internet age. You gotta put out some of that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But what are we doing? Like Dak was sixth, Dack's
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: team didn't play in any meaningful games, and listen, I'm
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: pro Dak, but I think it's really difficult. Right. But
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: back to my original point, all the guys that we
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: just listed, Lamar, Dak, Mahomes, Josh no one of them,
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  Speaker 1: all the top ten, Jared Goff, you would say toughness
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  Speaker 1: is a huge part of all their games, especially all
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: the mobile guys, Ma Homes, Josh Lamar Burrow. They're just
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  Speaker 1: they're tough. Last year, Justin Herbert played with a broken hand.
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  Speaker 1: So did Aaron Rodgers at forty one years old, with
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  Speaker 1: a who's accumulated four or five hundred million dollars in
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: the last twenty years. It's like playing this position, which
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: is sexy, and you become like a movie star. Movie
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: stars for the most part, Like aren't Tom Cruise jumping
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: through buildings, breaking ankles, doing stunts Like I would say,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: there's a softness that probably if we checked their hands,
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't wouldn't find him any callouses on it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're the toughest crew of humans. That
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  Speaker 1: is not the case with quarterbacks. These are tough fucking dudes.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Baker just kind of proved that. So
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  Speaker 1: I hopefully battles back. But you have a year like that.
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  Speaker 1: This also a big picture. It's like, well, what about
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  Speaker 1: his contract situation. He's not the biggest guy. He's kind
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: of a gunsling slinger, mobile run around guy. The way
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: he plays, he's kind of got a unique style, right,
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  Speaker 1: He's not like a run around guy like Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: or Lamar, but he definitely runs and he definitely keeps
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: plays alive with his legs. Like he's not Matt Stafford
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: now or Jared Goff. So if I'm Jason Lytt, I'm
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: gonna invest a large amount of money because even if
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: you get guys on cheap contract, I say this about
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald's, like Sam Donald makes nothing, spend three years,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. You know, google me, how many
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: guys in the league are making less than that beside
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: the highest paid guys at all the premium positions. Sam
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Donald's making it more than everyone on his own team
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: except who Jackson Smith and Jigba who just signed a
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  Speaker 1: historic contract. So it's like, yeah, Sam doesn't make that
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: much money relative to Josh Allen or Dak, but relative
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: to the rest of his team, he blows him out
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  Speaker 1: of the water. How many guys in his own team
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: would sign up for Josh or Sam Darnold's contract or
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's contract. Reality is a lot, So when a
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: lot is given, a lot is expected. And it's why
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: we hold these guys in such high standards, and it's
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: why these guys for the most part, like play hurt
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: because they're fucking tough. You can't play major college football
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: right at Oklahoma, Georgia, Oregon, wherever and not be tough.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: It'd be impossible to be a multi year starter in
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: big time Division one football, even with the rules now,
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  Speaker 1: and not be a tough guy. It'd be easier to
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: hide it in college if your team was absolutely stacked.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: There are less of those now, but even last year
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: for Nanda Mendoza, what happened that first play of the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Ohio State game. He got hit by the guy that
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: was drafted, I mean who hit him clean in the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: whatever sternham spleen, stomach rib area that it ended this
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  Speaker 1: season right there, but it shattered his insides and what
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: happened two blays later? He came running back on the field.
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio Tennis Steve Virginia. Speaking of why we
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  Speaker 1: like football, Aaron Donald, who News came out that a
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: big part of him going back to the RAMS facility
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: was to get like a legit football workout and see
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: how his body responded. I've been listening to a lot
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: of Connor McGregor content, and one thing I don't fall
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: with that closely. I guess over the course of the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: last five years, people would say, yeah, Connor trained for
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: this fight, but was he super locked in now part
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of when's leg was shattered, he's got a metal rod
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: in there. But it's not like for the last five years,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: this guy's been doing everything humanly possible, thinking, breathing, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: getting his body ready to fight. That is not the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: case of Aaron Donald. Every clip we have seen about
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the guy for the last several years has been he's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: been working out with the RAMS players at his house
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: or at wherever his personal gym is, and typically it'd
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be like Jared there, Aaron's trying around more weight like
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Aaron still the six pack abs for a guy that
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: plays defensive tackle, which is kind of unheard of. Any
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: picture you saw of him over the last couple of
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: years since he retired, he never looked like he was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: living a retirement life. He's clearly a very regimented guy,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a very focused guy when it comes to his physical health.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Now there's a big difference of pump and iron like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger and playing football. Right as Belichick used to say,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: we don't pay guys to bench press, We play guys
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to set the edge. So Aaron Donald's proven that translated
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to me, the question mark is not gonna be how
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: his body feels after the workout, because my guess would
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: be it probably feels pretty good. Maybe not when he
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: was twenty four years old, but it's not gonna be
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a deterrent for him not to come back. The question
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is gonna be after this time away, when he's pounding
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: guards and center, even if he's kicking their ass in
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: training camp, how his body feels after that. And the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: one thing in football with the double days over, you
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: never really know until you play the games and explosion
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage. It goes from like eighty percent
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to full go tackle football. So my guest sitting here
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: right now, I would imagine he's gonna feel confident based
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on the workout the other day, and we will see
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: him whether it's he start a training camp early on
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in training camp. He is gonna come back. The question
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: is gonna be his body, which is so far removed
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: from the constant physical grind of hitting. There's a big
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: difference lifting and playing football. As we all know how
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that happens now. I think if he comes back, he's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: sticking it out like I have a hard time unless
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: he had a major injury him coming back in a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks in saying I don't feel it because
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the other thing they're gonna put this guy in like
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Kyle does it with Trent Williams. We don't need to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: see every single day in practice, you know, getting X
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: number of reps. You know, we're trying to get you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to Australia week one and honestly the second half of
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the season. So you talk about a pitch count like
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: In a perfect world, if I was McVeigh, I'd be like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you want to come back like mid season, you know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: for reinforcements, But I would expect Aaron Donald will be
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: back on the team. Stefan Diggs said, I guess he
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: said it on his YouTube channel that there's no wide
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: receiver two better than him in the NFL, which I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: think is very debatable and probably not true. I would say,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: here's the problem, Stephan. You're always in the headlines for
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: doing something weird, and even if you're innocent on some
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of it, eventually people started thinking, like, ah, something's off
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: on this. You're currently being sued for sexual assault by
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a dude. Now, I don't give a shit what you
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: do in the doors of your own home. I don't
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: know if I ever heard of that one. So there's
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: just so much smoke around you that I just you're
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: just always in something. You were an excellent player when
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you were younger, there was no disputing that. But it
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: does feel like it's gotten weird and there's you taking
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a guy like him. You can't be shocked when all
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: of a sudden someone else comes after him about who
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: knows what getting sued for this someone coming after him
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: for that and eventually when you're not because early on
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in his career, Stephan Diggs was a big time when
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: he was those couple of years from Minnesota, and then
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: when he went to Buffalo like there was no disputing, like, yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: it might be a little bit of a headache, whatever
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: comes with it, but worth it. And then you get
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to the line of diminishing returns, not sure it's worth
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it anymore, Like who's suing you now for what? What
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: did you do? Huh? So I just think that digs
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: problems have become bigger than the production that you believe
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that he can bring to the table. And this is
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: a pretty simple formula in pro sports. If you produce,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: people deal with a lot of shit. But once your
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: production and your talent start to diminish, the stuff that
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: people just kind of look past no longer look past,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and they use it as an excuse like, EH, could
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: be innocent on these seven lawsuits. Maybe they're all full
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: of shit, But I don't want to deal with that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want everyone saying fill in team wide receiver
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is involved in whatever, so I Diggs can
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: believe whatever he wants his problem and the reason he's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: not on a team is all these off the field
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: situations that feel like over the last however many months
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: year have just been relent. The other story I saw
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: today is Adam Schefter got a massive extension from ESPN,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And I was thinking about, you know, like my generation,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: if your give or take my age maybe a little older,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we were lucky enough and like the nineties, sports talk
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: really took off. You know, if you lived in New York,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: obviously Mike and the Mad Dog. If you lived on
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the West Coast, I guess he went pretty national, like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Jim Rome. And then by the two thousands, you know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Colin Coward became national, obviously, Dan Patrick and all these guys.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: You could just hear sports talk and it really inspired
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of people. And you see now a lot
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of people my age are younger that are involved in
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the business were inspired by humans that they saw either
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: on television or listened to on the radio. And I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: grew up in a time when you heard someone on
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the radio, Jim Rome, Colin Coward, Adam Carolla, you name it,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: any big radio name. Howard Stern a little different because
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: they made a movie about him, you had no clue
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: what they looked like you had absolutely no clue what
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: they looked like. All you knew was their voice. Obviously,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: those days are long gone because everything's on video. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: mean how I'm currently recording this for Netflix, But I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: did not grow up in that era, and I'll listen.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I'm glad where we're at. But that era had a huge,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: huge influence on a lot of people. I do think
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that no different than Bill Simmons on a lot of
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: young sports writers. Adam Schefter's influence on the way we
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: consume sports news has clearly been a game changer. And
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the one thing like ESPN spent a lot of money
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: on WOJH and then you watch Wojes on television and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: he was terrible. It was always uncomfortable. He's just not
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: good on television. And the problem is in this modern
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: day world, if you're not good on television and you
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: do that job, it's not gonna work. Now. You don't
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: need to be the biggest personality in the room like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Jay Glazer, but you gotta be comfortable with the cameras
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in front of your face. And I've met Jay a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: couple of times. He's really cool. I would say this
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: about Adam having DMD and I text with him, met him,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and knowing a lot of people that know him, I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: have never ever heard one negative thing about the guy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I would say he is the most universally liked person
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: by people I know in the NFL that you know
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: is in the role non coach or executive. People fucking
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: love the guy. You know, he's a good person and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: clearly he was right place right time early on in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Denver with Mike Shanahan back well before an NFL network
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and has ridden the boom of the NFL, I would say,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: as well as any media person in the history of
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the leak. So congrats to schefter, who is just you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: this is all entertainment. Sometimes it's you know, the red card.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Everyone bringing up like should this guy have been allowed
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: back for the red card? Do you guys this is
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: all entertainment? Maybe yeah, I'm so jaded and numb do
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it all and listen, I'm not talking about like throwing
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: games or what's happening in the NBA, like Malik Beasley
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: literally throwing plays or Chauncey billups, but like there should
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: be a little bit of a human element to this,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Like this business is not built on they don't need
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: so and so to win the championship. They just need
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you to watch that team try to win the championship.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: You know, And I've been to a lot of games.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people listening. Some of you
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: guys are season ticket holders, whether big time college football,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: obviously the NFL. I hate to say this because I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: respect the shit out of you if you go to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: these games every week, and I understands it can be
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, something you've done with your family, something you
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: do with your dad, something you do with family members,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: something you do with close friends. It means a lot
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to a lot of people. But in the business of
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the NFL that is really secondhand at this point. Whether
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you show up or not, it's extra money for the owners.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: But like their bread is buttered on television by the people,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: sitting on the couch watching is more important than you
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: going to the game and listen. Sitting on the couch
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: watching is the easiest thing to do. I've gone to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: games Satin lines, Ingress, Egress. You know, have parking attendance
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that show up once every two weeks that don't work
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: for the team that don't know what they're doing. It
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: can be a nightmare. It can. I mean, once you're in,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: it's cool, but like getting there, getting in and then
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: getting out is not fun. So if you do that
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: consistently every year, and I'm not talking about just going
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to one game of year, I'm talking about, like, if
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to majority of the games, hat tip to you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: But just know, as this world has changed, like you're
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: just not as important to them anymore. You're not, but
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like you play a role. You know, when I'm sitting
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: on my couch watching and millions of people are throughout
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the country and it's a good environment like that that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: makes the product more important. So it actually adds to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the television product, even though the people on the couch
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: are more important to the business model than the dude
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: sitting in the second level, which is typically the best area. Now,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that's the thing about football. You don't want to sit
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: too close to the grass, you know, in basketball, sitting
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: up high. I remember when I was in high school,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: me and my buddy EG, we went to a King's
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Mavericks playoff game. It was round one. We bought tickets
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: for twenty dollars. We got two tickets for forty bucks,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: twenty bucks each. We were literally the last seat in
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the upper level. It's like they look like ants. Right.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: In basketball, you want to get lower and lower. In football,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be too high, but you don't
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: want to be too low. You want to be somewhere
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: in the middle, ideally like the second club level, somewhere
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: between the thirties. You know that is the best viewing experience,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: cause you could say behind one of the goalposts, But
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the problem is when they're on the other side, they're pretty
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: far away. You want to be toward the middle of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the field, but in the middle. That's why typically if
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you look at ticket prices, club level is pretty expensive
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: because it's a fucking great seat. So congrats to Chefty,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: who just elite at his job. I remember when I
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: first got a job with the Eagles twenty ten, Howie's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: phone would ring, not his cell phone, but his landline.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And his assistant, who I kind of sat very close to, Katie,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: who I think is still as assistant or she definitely
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: still works for the Eagles, used to used to walk
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: into his office Adam Schefter's on the phone. Now I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: would imagine that their relationship fifteen sixteen years later is
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: a little different. You know how he had. I don't
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: know if that was. I think it might have been
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: his first year as a gym. Maybe maybe that was
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: his first year as a gym. Yeah, I think it was.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: And Chefter's a grinder, you know, it's all these people are.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You can make fun of Diane all you want. Uh.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I had been around her in enough situations at the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: combine and stuff like, she's a hustler, you know she
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not just talking the sex stuff with the Raibel.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: She was very aggressive when it came to meeting other people.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: She wasn't leaving with them all. And so's Adam, so's Glazer.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: They're just you kind of gotta have like a sales
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: type role. It's like, listen some people that some sports
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: writers are just not that relatable. No one wants to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: talk to them. And some are good at that. Some
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: are good at interacting with others. That is a skill
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: you either have or you don't. If Adam Schefter or
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Jay Glazer or Diana or whoever were not covering football,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: they would have been good in sales. I'm watching, would
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: woes have been good in sales? Who wants to talk
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to that guy? Seriously? It feels like Sham's would be
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: much better, much more likable, much better communicator. We watched
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: woes and here's the other thing. I don't remember Schefter
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: writing that many articles that would just destroy people. That
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: was a huge part of Woch's career. He would just
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: take people down and go after them. He did to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Mark Jackson, I remember living in the Bay Area, like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I just don't know that many people. And I know
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Woj and Schefter, you're close. I don't know anyone that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: says anything good about Wosh and I've never heard anything
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: bad about Schefter. I guess before we dive into the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: mailbag quick Dad diaries, we we did the plunge and
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: kicked him out of our room. So he now is
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: in his own room, which he has had basically for
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: six let's say nine months, so a couple months before
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: he was even born. And then these last six months
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: did he never use We would go in there obviously
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it change diapers and you know, pretty big deal, like
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: kicking him out of them. And we had the little
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: thing I rented this snow which, for those of you
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that don't have kids, is like a bassinet that moves,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you know, if you move them, they kind of fall asleep,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: but he was getting so big, he was growing out
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of the thing. And we were at the you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: five and a half six month mark, it's like, okay,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: he's got to get out. We would have done it sooner,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: but we were traveling and it just didn't work out.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So we got home from Newport Beach and we're like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: we're booting them. So we boot him and the first
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: night we lay him in there, I'm like, and we
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: have this you know camera that's watching him, which I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: started thinking my parents back in nineteen eighty four. I
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: guess by the time I was six months, it would
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: have been early eighty five booted me. There was no
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: camera and there was definitely none of this other technology
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: that we're currently using. Because the first night I was like, hey,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: he's out. I was ready for him to be gone.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: But then I couldn't sleep because I kept looking on
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the app and you know forever. When he slept in
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: our room, he sleeps on his back. What was he
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Immediately he flips over and he sleeps on his stomach. Now,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: granted he's in a crib. There are no pillows or anything,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: so it's just a it's just like a soft mattress
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: in a sheet, not even I mean the sheet covering
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the mattress that's very tight. So he's got nothing except
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a sleepsack over him. I'm like, is he breathing? So
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: from about seven point thirty till probably one in the morning,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I swear to god, I went in there like every
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes. I felt like the first night we
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: came home with him, and then we had bought this
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: thing called the outlet, and the next night we put
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: on you can put it on his foot and it
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it there's like a contraption in our room that if
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: he stops breathing, it'll just beep really loud. And I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: was back to all my parents. My parents couldn't watch
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: me in the eighties. They didn't have an outlet to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: put on my foot. They didn't even know the rules
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that you're supposed to sleep on the back. There's no blankets,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: there's no nothing. They just fucking threw me in a
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: crib probably like seven, you know, off bears in a blanket,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and somehow we all survived. So, you know, we might
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: have too much information now, and then you go down
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: rabbit holes about the bad stuff. You're like, you're just
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: always on tilt. But with technology, it's like, well, I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: can sleep like a baby because I know if something
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: does get weird in there, the thing will just start
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: beeping a hell a beep sometimes when he's completely fine,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: but uh, we've kicked him out of his room and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: he's uh, or kicked him out of our room and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: he's finally moved in, and now it turns out like
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: we don't have a smoke detector in there. It's like, God,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: there's always something, you know. She's like, well, you know, okay,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: we got to get that installed, but that's I don't
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: know how we repainted the whole house before we even
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: moved in. They have like seven smoke detectors in the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: hallway of my home, and then in the guest bedroom
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: there's no smoke detectors, and then in his room there's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: no smoke detectors. Like I got three in the hallway
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and none in the rooms, and his room is like
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: really high scene. So it's a pain.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: But that's a problem for another day.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Let's dive into the mailbag at John Middcoff. At John
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. Get your
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: questions answered here on the show question for the pod,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of YouTube breakdowns on NASCAR's decline. First,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the playoff format changed so often that fans got confused
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and stopped caring. Second, NASCAR chased national expansion so aggressively
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that it abandoned its core fan base, the beer drink
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and raise Hell, praise Dale crowd in the Deep South.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Do you think something similar could ever happen to college
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: football or in the NFL? College football is constantly tweaking
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the playoff format, and the NFL keeps expanding with more
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: international games. What can football do to avoid becoming the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: next Nascar? I remember, I don't know how long ago
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: this is, but weren't their headlines within the last ten
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: fifteen years that NASCAR was the fastest growing sport in America.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: The difference, I would say is Nascar. I'm not comparing
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: this apples to apples, but like tennis or golf, it's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: much more of a niche following when you have baseball,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: basketball and football, and obviously football is king, but basketball
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: and baseball you have people playing in every state, all
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: over the place. Right, So a NASCAR fan, I would
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: guess if we broke down the demos, like you said,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: is pretty uniquely connected to the South. So I don't
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: know exactly what they did to change to try to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: go national and try to change the exposure. But like
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you're always like tennis and golf can only get so big,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: so taking care of your core fan base is really
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: really important. I think the NFL can get a little
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: more arrogant think and like their core fan base is
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: so massive, whether you go to New York City, whether
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you go to Plano, Texas, whether you go to North Dakota,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: whether you go to Seattle, Washington, you go everywhere in
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the country, and people like football. So I think the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: problem would be if they started catering to national or
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: international audiences. So if I'm a Seahawks fan or I'm
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: a Miami Dolphins fan and my team is playing at
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the time zone for the people in Europe and I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: have to watch you at some weird ass time, that
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: would be a problem. But like I don't love these
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: international games, but as long as they're on Sunday during
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the day, even if they're on in the morning, it's
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: not that big an eel, you know where it would
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: be a problem if they played it for the international
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: audience like a noon kickoff and it was like three
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning our time. So I think you're
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: always worried about the changing landscape and leaving people in
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the past. But we see this with the World Cup.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: We've seen this with I don't know the Masters, or
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Connor mcday or Connor McGregor people like big events and
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the way our attentions have been just changed by the phone.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Morphed sad. I was listening to Bill Simmons and Chuck
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and they were talking about people don't read, and I'm like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it's kind of sad. I felt like my dad read
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like a book every couple days. I'm not proud to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: admit the last time I read a book, but hint,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: it's been a while. Now. I consume a lot audiobooks
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and a ton of educational finance podcasts and you know,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: stuff that's not just football or golf or whatever. But reading. Hell,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: even sometimes I like reading the blog. It's like once
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I get past, like the first paragraph, like do I
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: ever need to read the rest of this? Our brains
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: have been retrained that There is no disputing that our
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: brains have been retrained. Now it could be the ends
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: of civilization. I wouldn't bet against it. It's sometimes I wonder, like,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: am I way stupider than I used to be? Am
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I way less intelligent? Does my brain function at a
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: lower level than it would have if I would have
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: been had all the same information but operated more like
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I did fifteen years ago? Sometimes I'll just be scrolling.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I doing this? Is this really
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: even entertaining? And the answer is sometimes no, But we
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: do it and there's no getting around it. So I mean,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: sometimes I'll be brushing my teeth and I'm like, put
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: on a podcast, It's like, do I need that dopamine
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: high have that extra sound? It's like, yeah, maybe I do.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, So I think you always gotta be
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: careful with that question for the bag? Did you watch
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the World Cup? And can we agree that soccer is
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: an atrocious sport to both watch and play. I get
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the excitement, but the constant softness and performative flopping. Most
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: games decided by bang bang penalty gicks, teams playing shorthanded
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: for minor trip ups that become red cards, worse officiating
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: than even the blind Side NFL crew, Terrible halftime panels
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: with no juice offsides robbing every big play, Beta males
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: like Polisic who sub out every match. Can you imagine
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the NFL of a player was kicked out for roughing
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the passer penalty and the defense had to play with
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: ten guys the rest of the game. Insane rules? Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I mean I it's not a sport I can watch
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: without a lot being online. And the reason I'm drawn
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to the World Cup is it feels big. I would
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: say I've used this example before, Like I watch Game
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: of Thrones, not because like I thought it was this
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: incredible television show, Like a lot of companies in my
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: world created podcasts around Game of Thrones and the breakdowns
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: of the symbol of what happened here and character development,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't give a shit about any of that.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I just watched because I knew it was big, and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I knew a lot of people were watching, and there
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: was enough violence some dragons blowing fire on people killing
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: them and sex to yeah, keep me engaged. But I wanted,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I had fomo. I wanted to be involved, even if
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that's not for me kind of what the World Cup
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: is for me. I don't think I would just watch
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a random soccer game. Well, I know I won't. I don't.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: So we like violence and aggressiveness in this country. You know,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of different takes and a lot
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: of people have tried to opine on soccer and how
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: we get better, Like I don't know, we like killers
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: physically and mentally. Think about the guy who I would
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: say most people universally would agree is the best basketball
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: player of all time. Mike was fucking nuts. Tiger Woods,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: trained with the Navy Seals, he was a golfer. To
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: look at tot what Tom Brady did to make sure
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: he could play till forty five years old. Like, guys,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: we're not really gonna get behind guys just flopping. It's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you know, Sam Presty can bitch and moan all he
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: wants of Like you know, we're going up against the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: referees and social media. It's like, bro, have your fucking
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: players stop flopping then just play basketball. Just play basketball.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Your best player, by far is tough to watch at times,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: it's not enjoyable. It feels like soccer. So we like violence,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I mean we just do. I don't know what else.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And soccer can just notm be that violent of a sport.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: If anything, it feels like the opposite kind of to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, feels like a pansy sports. It
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: clearly takes a lot of cardiovascular training of the running,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, the headers are the big guys you
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: can get clonked in the head. But the guy's constantly
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: laying on the ground over like I don't even think
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: he touched him. Is not gonna work in this country,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: at least for the foreseeable future. And then on top
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of that, we like stars, so until we get Ronaldo,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Harry Kane, a messy like Pulisic ain't gonna cut it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: You can't tell me this guy is the next, you know,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: fucking Mickey Mantle. And then all of a sudden we
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: watch him and go I texted the group chat probably
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago when we were playing, It's like,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is Christian Pulisicy even good? Like it's this guy good
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: at soccer? It's like, well, it was like, I don't
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: get me. Well when I watch and the biggest matches,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: is this guy good? Because if I turn on a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: game and it's a big game and Jokic is playing,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: or Josh Allen's playing, or whoever you picked a great
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: player in America. For the most part, it's gonna be
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: pretty clear, like, Eh, this guy's good, this guy's fucking
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: this guy can play. I'm watching, I'm going I've heard
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Polistic's name, I feel like for forever, Coward talks about
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: him NonStop. It's like, this is our this is our
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: best player, this is captain America. And then you watch
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: all these other teams with their sweet players, like he
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: couldn't hold any of these guys jocks. I don't even
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: know if they wear with jock in soccer, whatever they wear,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: he can't hold it. So I I think a lot
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: of us MESSI is a good example. Most human beings
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: in America aren't watching that much messy. But if you
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: like sports, you've heard the guy's name forever. Every time
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: he's on television, especially Argentine, it's like, God, that guy's incredible.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, he's also like thirty eight, thirty nine
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: years old. What was he look like when he was younger?
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: And then you go to YouTube you're like, this guy
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the mutant. But that we know, we've been in this
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: country long enough, we have seen the best of the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: best at all these sports. We know exactly what it
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: looks like. So even if you don't know that much soccer,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: if you watch this tournament, you see the best players,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: what they look like? Our best player supposedly, it's like
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: would he even play on these other teams? And again
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: you don't need to know that much about Soccer's like, well,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: is he on one of the best teams in Europe?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I heard someone say like MLS kim fifty or sixty
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: million dollars something like that. Is it's an insane investment.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: We are hitting the best quarterback era ever. No, are
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: we entering the best quarterback era ever? In the NFL.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: It seems like eighty percent of NFL teams are about
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: to have an MVP caliber, above average or highly touted
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: young signal caller. You can count the teams with bad
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks on one hand. Am I a prisoner of the moment?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Or is it looking like the golden era quarterbacks? Well,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: it's the golden era of being able to play quarterback
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: because they can't touch you, so it's hard to go
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: eras like to say, these guys are as good as
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: John Elway, Dan Mrino, Joe Montana, Jim Kelly. Those guys
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: can get murdered these guys can't get murdered. So if
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I can't murder you, obviously, these guys are all Hall
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: of Fame talents, it's going to be easier to play now.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: The top guys in this league I think could have
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: played in every era and dominated. But like some of
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the other guys, I think we've been pretty lucky, at
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: least in my lifetime. I was born into the guys
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: in the eighties, grew up in the nineties with Young's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and Farres and Aikman's and all those guys right into
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Manning and Brady through where we're at now. For the
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: most part, they have continually continuously come into the league
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and carried the league. Let's dig into your prediction that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: JJ will not be in Minnesota Week one A, right,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: So my question is where does he go? And do
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you think that Jim Harbaugh is a key person in
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the saga or specifically, do you believe that JJ is
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: better than Trey Lance? Doesn't Harbaugh have more into info
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: on JJ than any other team? As an aside, I
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: tabulated the backup quarterbacks for twenty one and thirty nine
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: last year. This stat is some judgment, but I'm counting
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: on games where the starter was injured and the team
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: was trying to win. I see what you're saying. So
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: not counting benchings including Kyler in Arizona, and not counting
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Week eighteen malad In games, so twenty one and thirty
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: nine four backups had winning records, Mac Jones, Davis Mills, Cousins,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and Tyler Huntley. I think Trey Lance is just not
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: good at football. So I think Jim really like he's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: a great guy. He works hard. But I don't think
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is good at football either. The difference is
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: JJ has played more college and NFL football than Trey Lance.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: So I don't see why you couldn't just trade for JJ,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: which wouldn't be much because one thing Kevin O'Connell said
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: to Dan Patrick a week ago in Tahoe was when
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Dan was kind of messing with him, he also brought
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: up Carson Wentz, and would you be comfortable going into
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: a season with Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz your quarterback room.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: They'd probably land some random like third stringer, but there
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: are going to be other teams that had good grades
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: on the guy that had Even if you had like
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: a top fifty grade on the guy. So it's like, yeah,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: we might not take him the first round, but we
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: thought it was a second round quarterback. Well we can
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: get him for like a sixth rounder. You would have
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to entertain it. And if he doesn't win the job,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: are you gonna make JJ McCarthy the backup? I just
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: don't see that. I see Carson Wentz being the backup.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: He's been a backup for a while now. Like JJ,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: he's kind of a no man's land. Well, if he's
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: your third stringer, like what reps, you're just gonna have
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: him run the scout team. I think you just punt,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and I think it's easier to punt assuming And I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: don't know this did what did Seattle and specifically this
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: new GM think of JJ McCarthy because if you told
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: me that he does not like JJ McCarthy, I think
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to punt on him. If and when
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: he doesn't win the job, I would say the Chargers
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: would be very much at play, yes, and then Trey
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Lance might just stay there too, maybe just have them
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: battle it out. But there would be other teams at play.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: There would be other gms and offensive staffs that like
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy in college would be as a Steeler fan
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: since the late fifties. I love my team. My question
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: is this, how do the local sports writers see the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: team with such rose colored glasses? Aaron Rodgers, please, McCarthy
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: twice fired. We have some down years ahead of us.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: McCarthy's been pretty good in his career. McCarthy's been pretty good,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and Rogers was a huge upgrade for you guys. I
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: think the question mark is is this year gonna look
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: exactly like the last couple of years where you're just
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: nine tennis wins and just one and done? Rogers posted
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: that picture on Instagram. Looked like in Montana or something,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: hanging with all the boys wearing cowboy hats, riding some horses,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: probably throwing the pigskin a little bit. I think I
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: do think you're gonna get Aaron's and Mike who's from
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: that area to honestly, the offense probably gonna be better.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I think the question mark is is your defense any good?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: And this TJ. Watt situation like is he just is
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: he just over the hill? Can you guys cover anybody?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I got more questions defensively than I do. I think
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: offensively you're gonna be definitely more explosive than you were
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: last year because he had one wide receiver. You bring
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: in Pittman and your draft what's his name from Alabama
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: in the second round. You know if they get anything
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: out of the running back from Iowa that you drafted
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the last year in the third round that fumbled the
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: ball last year on the goal line. All time bad play.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: The red cart in soccer is the biggest fugazi in
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: any sport. Getting ejected and having to play a man
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: down the remainder of the current match while also being
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: suspended for the next match is such a turn off
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: for a viewer like myself who really enjoyed the World Cup.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: As a non soccer guy, I can separate these two things.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: As a non soccer guy, I do have to kind
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: of respect. It's the biggest sport in the world. It's
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: been played like this ever since I can remember watching
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: soccer on television. It's like, those are their rules, those
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: are their rules. There are some stupid rules that we
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: have in a lot of sports right that if you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: were from New Zealand or Scotland or whatever, you'd be like, wait,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: what just happen? The guy fumbled it went over the
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: pylon out of bounds. Now the other team gets on
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the twenty yard line. Be hard to understand. You're watching
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: college football, You're like, wait, the guy just jumped up
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: to tackle the guy and he got kicked out of
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the game and he has to miss the first half
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: of next game. Like there'd be a lot of rules
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: if you were fourignto the sport baseball, basketball, football, golf, tennis,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: You're like, what's going on? Tennis and golf are bad
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: examples because they're international sports, but definitely football, and I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: would say the new rules in basketball some of the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: end of game situations, So like that's they're rules now
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: sitting where I'm sitting with you, Like it's insane. You
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: get kicked out of the game and then you got
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: to miss the entire next game. And how are not
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: all red cards created equal? It's like I accidentally stepped
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: on your foot or whatever whatever I do, is that
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the same penalty as if I punch you in the face? Like,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: how are once we crossed the red card threshold? Like
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: there are some crimes you get a year in jail.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: There are other crimes that you get twelve years in jail.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: There are other crimes you get life in jail, but
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: you're going to jail. Shouldn't a red card once you
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: get kicked out of the game? And I'm with you, like,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: can't bring anyone else in the game. You know, in football,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: when the guy get kicks out of the game for
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: punching a guy or spearing the guy or whatever, you
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: bring in the backup to take a spot. Can you
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: imagine in football they're like, you know, we're gonna try
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: out the red card idea that if you get ejected
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you have to play a man down the rest of
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the game. That would be insane, It's crazy, but that's
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: their rules. I'm with you. Who wasn't was Argentina in Sweden.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I was kind of watching more of the fights than
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: that that game. But wasn't Sweden a man down? They
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: get a guy get a red card in that game
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and they were playing a man down the rest of
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the game. I wanted to share something that drives me
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: nuts with the NBA that I'm sure you probably agree with.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I really hate when star players who get their way
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: in every way imaginable, then complain when things don't go
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: all in and claim the organization failed them. In particular,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about Giannis. He basically had the Bucks organization
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: by the balls for the last decade. They gave in
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: to all his demands. They fired Budenholzer, They hired the
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: coach he wanted, then fired him when he refuses to
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: kiss Giannis's ass. They traded an arm and a leg
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: for wash Dame Lillard, and not to mention, they kept
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: his brother, who couldn't play in the G League, on
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the roster. Like, okay, dude, request the trade. You know
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna win in Milwaukee, but don't play this
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: victim bullshit. Like the organization failed you. You played a
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: large role on it. Is it their fault for actually
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: making those moves. I'm in total agreement that the top
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: NBA players that want to wield their sword get everything
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: they want. And it's kind of been that way forever.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I mean stories about Magic Johnson getting guys fired. Did
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan get Doug Collins fired? Players have been gotten
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: coaches fired forever. They also, more and more now dictate
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the front office and through the contract. I have a
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: bigger issue I don't know enough about the details of
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Like you know, obviously they did everything humanly possible for you,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: honest I haven't really seen him play the victim. Maybe
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I've missed the interview or whatever. I haven't really seen that.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I mean even last year. Remember they were trying to
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: tank and he wanted to come back and he kind
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: of was like Max Crosby pissed off. So I maybe
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I haven't seen that as much. I
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: have a bigger issue with this. It's like Anthony Davis.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I was looking at this the other day because it
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: was like, do the Warriors need a trade for Anthony
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Davis to convince Lebron because Anthony Davis wants a contract extension.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: It's like he's gonna be a free agent. Then I
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: looked he's being paid fifty eight million dollars this year
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: and sixty two million dollars next year. He's got two
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: years left on his contract for one hundred and twenty
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: million dollars. It's like the Celtics had to punt on
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. Who's time for a contract extension, who's a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: free agent? No, he has three more years on his
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: contract the NBA needs. It's one thing if you got
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Jokic or career Lebron in their prime, But like Jalen
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: fucking Brown, who they struggled to trade, who's got three
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: years left on his contract. When his agent goes time
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: for an extension, you go no. Why can't more teams
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: say this? No, That's what I don't understand. Anthony Davis
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: wants to go Anthony, you're making fifty eight million dollars
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: this year and sixty two million dollars next year. We'll
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: see a training camp, Bud October first, be there, b Square,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: can't wait looking forward to you, Aj Debonds and Trey Young.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: That's why I don't understand last year of your contract
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever, or the super great players, but like once,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: you're not like a top five or six players, which
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you honest, most of his life has been now. I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: it baffles me being an nbagm and just having like
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: their agent Benju. I just don't understand why you can't
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: say no. I don't get it. Okay, come more. Do
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: you think that the current structure of the Packers is
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: a bonus or detriment to winning titles? I mean, would
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: they be better off with an owner, someone who could
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: just go all in and get the pieces needed right
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: now to close the deal and win big. Feels like
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: they run things obviously very well, but more just straight
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: business and less straight up owner passion to win. I
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: feel like the board of directors is always just playing
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: it safe. I love that we always seem to have
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: a competitive team, and maybe that should be enough love
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts. Uh, I mean, I think you
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: guys have been pretty good for a long time. I
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: mean they just made a move trading the two first
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: round picks and Kenny Clark for Micah Parsons that I
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: would say type move that owners make, so I don't
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: think it would change much. I actually think it's probably
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: been the opposite of a detriment and been a positive
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: because you've had Ron Wolf, Ted Thompson now Udican's like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: clearly pretty good their job, so I I I don't
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: think it's been a detriment at all. Bonus question, if
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: you look at every player that played in major, that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: played in Major or had his best play for a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: team and did an all time NFL season or team ranking,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: who do you think would have the best roster in
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: the NFL? I would say the Chiefs easily, Mahomes best
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: being the best player I've ever seen. With the mix
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: of offensive defense we've had throughout the team history, Kelsey,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Derek Thomas, Tyre Kill, Tony Gonzalez, Jamal Charles. I think
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: most teams would have pretty loaded groups, you know. I mean,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the Patriots would be pretty incredible, The Broncos would be
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: pretty unreal. The forty nine Ers, I mean, would be
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: pretty fucking awesome. The Packers would be pretty stacked. It's like, oh,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: who are your quarterbacks? Uh, you know, quarterback competition Prime
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Rodgers probably far. I mean, it's like, I think they're
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: be a list of like six seven teams. I think
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Denver would be elite. I think forty nine Ers. I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots and the twenty plus years if you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: just mix and match all the players they had, the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: New York Giants, can you imagine the defense they could
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: throw together? Cool little offseason exercise for a different day.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Who would be like a sleeper? Cowboys obviously would be
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: pretty unreal. With Steelers be a lot of the historic
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: teams because you can mix a match. The Bears would
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: just be the eighty five Bears with Caleb Vikings fan here,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: What do you think about the moves the new GM
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: has made, grabbing front office staff from Seattle and the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: analystic guy from Cleveland. I'm not sure the real quarterback
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: battle is but does it matter if Kyler is serviceable
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: if JJ. If JJ improves, the quarterback play should be better.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Last year, the quarterback room was bottom five and they
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: went nine to eight. I saw that he hired Federer,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: the old panther GM that he worked with for a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: long time, who Schneider's right hand guy. Has to be
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: an upgrade. They got rid of Grigson, who I mean
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years stretch you would say Questy
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and Grigson Grigson were the worst combo in the NFL.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: That doesn't get any worse than that. And the drafting
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: speaks for itself historically poor drafting. So you fire Quessie,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: he fires Grigson, brings the news to I don't know
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: anything about the analytic guy. I think they just need
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: They just needed some new blood in that front office
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: at the top. So by all accounts, this guy's really impressive.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know him personally. I actually got put on
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: with someone else a group text with him. He never
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: text me back. So I'm rooting for you. But think
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: about this. For the last handful of years they have
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: had Kevin O'Connell and Brian Flores as your offensive and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and they've had excellent rosters, Like can you
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: imagine if Howie or John Schneider or Jason Light or
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: like the top GMS had Jason Light. Last year was
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the deal on with the Todd Bowles and an offensive
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: coordinator that clearly was kind of struggling and Baker was
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: banged up. And listen, I like Todd, nice guy, but
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I think we all agree it's like Todd's might be
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: a little trouble. I got Mike Tomlin, you know, keep
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: an eye on that one. But yeah, I think big
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: picture of Minnesota is gonna be fine. I'm not buying.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I'm out this year. I'm out this year. I know
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: they went nine and eight, but at one point in
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: time there were four and eight. This was a question
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: about drafting Brennan Soresby, So this whe he thought before
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Brennan Soresby got in the supplemental draft, should the Cardinals
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: draft Soresby. I know he's projected to have been a
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: late first round pick or early second round pick. Arizona
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: picked up Carson Beck. Jacoby is in the NFL's Most
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: hilarious holdout. It's also embarrassing for us, although I understand
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: and support them getting paid. Just a bit awkward. I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: saw he had a picture of all the guys working
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: out with him in Florida. I talked about this before
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I went on vacation. But the Soresby thing, one, I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: give him credit, Like, you can't be suing the league
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: on this, like wave the white flag, buddy, and they did.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: They just they gave up. But I do think the league, like, yeah,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Cordinals should be very interested in Soresby, but like you
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: don't want to get rushed into using a second round
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: pick in the supplemental draft if he was gonna be allowed.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think the teams felt comfortable one with. You know,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: obviously the gambling thing. It's like, is this guy addicted
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: to the gambling or not? Like what the fuck's going on?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: But also like we need to do some digging on
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: this guy because it's the most important position on our team.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: So if we're gonna use a pick, like can we
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: have a normal season. So when you evaluate all these
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks most people I know in the NFL, one thing
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: they will just kind of occasionally do on vacation is
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: just watch the top players right in college. So over
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: the course of the summer when they kind of got
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: some downtime, they will just watch a lot of the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: top college players. So going into the season, and if
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: you have an area, you've probably already peaked at him,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: and you've done that throughout some of the offseason, you
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea of going into Week one
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: the strengths and weaknesses a lot of the first couple
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: round guys. Obviously things change, but like then you build
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: your report, your questions revolve around what you know, what
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you've seen, what you want to get to know. That's
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: just on the field, let alone off the field. So
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I think the league did the right thing because it
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: would have forced teams like someone could have gotten just
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: burn bad and listen, he might end up being a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: bad NFL player. Who knows, but that that would have
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: been a shitty situation to rush into it if you're Arizona,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: because you also you just drafted Carson Beck. What if
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: you just let Carson Beck play this year? What if
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: he's good? What if Carsonck ends up starting twelve games
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: this year? It's like, oh, we'll just roll back. He's like,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: look like Tyler shuck. I don't expect it to happen,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: but you just you never know when. On that one audiose,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening and we will talk. Minyatta. The volume