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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Brett Ciancia & Joe Person · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ eMac in Bone with
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  Speaker 1: you all right, So the text line features two things
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  Speaker 1: prominently right now, Bone people sharing their stories of their
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  Speaker 1: food being stolen out of restaurants when they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: pick it up. So, as I suspect that there are
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  Speaker 1: some no good, dirty scoundrels out there, manli.
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  Speaker 2: Our listeners may have also stolen food at time, that
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  Speaker 2: should also be a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't ask that question. I guess we could
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  Speaker 1: phrase it that way too. Let's see if we get
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  Speaker 1: some emissions. Then you have the folks Bone that want
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  Speaker 1: to know more details on what happened to Michael Lombardi
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  Speaker 1: at UNC. All we know is the administration there at
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  Speaker 1: UNC has placed him on leave for right now, and
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  Speaker 1: we're just waiting to find out more details what happened,
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  Speaker 1: what could lead to this. But if you're a tar
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  Speaker 1: Heel fan, you're shaky. You're either shaking your head or
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  Speaker 1: some tar Heel fans are saying we'd be better off
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  Speaker 1: without them. So this needs to be two type of
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  Speaker 1: tar Heel fan reactions right now, Oh no, why are
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  Speaker 1: we dysfunctional again?
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  Speaker 3: Or hey, get it, get him out of here, out
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  Speaker 3: of Connor.
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  Speaker 2: Ogera, our friend points out today on Twitter, keep in
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  Speaker 2: mind that you're putting on leave the highest paid GM
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  Speaker 2: into sport of college football, So he is already overpaid
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  Speaker 2: base off production so far, but then you throw in
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they're paying him more than anyone else
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  Speaker 2: in that position. I mean, this is a it's a
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  Speaker 2: huge deal and we don't even know what's happened yet.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, you can see and I know it was booster
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  Speaker 1: driven John Pryor and those guys, but you can see
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  Speaker 1: why on earth would you pay Belichick what you did.
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  Speaker 1: He'd never coached college and why would you pay that
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  Speaker 1: goober Lombardi that It's just unbelievable, y'all. Y'all asking from
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  Speaker 1: trouble when you do that. Anyway, we'll talk more about
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  Speaker 1: the show goes on. We'll see if we get any
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  Speaker 1: more details on that, but right now, we'd like to
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  Speaker 1: keep things on the field. Right now, bone As we
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  Speaker 1: preview the college football season with Brett Siancia, he puts
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  Speaker 1: out the awesome Pick six previews at Pick six Previews
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter, slash x is where you can find all
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  Speaker 1: the details Pick sixpreviews dot Com, and he joins us
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  Speaker 1: here on the Mac and Bone Show. Brett, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining us, man, I know you just you just
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  Speaker 1: joined us to talk ball and now UNC's got another
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  Speaker 1: dysfunctional headline.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah how about that timing? Now, Mac and Bone, thanks
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  Speaker 4: for having me on our favorite stops here in the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: We always talk acc previews here. It's that time of
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  Speaker 4: the year again. The twenty twenty sixth edition is published,
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  Speaker 4: is rolling off the printing press for shipping them across
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  Speaker 4: the country. Really excited to break it down, really wide
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  Speaker 4: open offseason. You're talking biggest coaching carousel we've ever seen,
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  Speaker 4: thousands of players in the transferport of the biggest musical
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  Speaker 4: chairs we've ever seen there and then actual football to
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  Speaker 4: talk about now. So excited to be on.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, no problem. Congrats on all your success. Definitely
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  Speaker 2: a rising star in this in this round. So we're
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  Speaker 2: proud to have you on a yearly. Let's start with Clemson, Brad,
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  Speaker 2: What what type of year will this be for Clemson?
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  Speaker 2: Would be similar to last year which is on the
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  Speaker 2: disappointing side?
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  Speaker 1: Will they bounce back? What do you think of the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers here and where they are in twenty twenty six?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well with Clemson, they're still operating in the old model,
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  Speaker 4: the old recruit and develop and no transfers. They're very
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  Speaker 4: old fashioned in that regard. Dado likes it that way,
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  Speaker 4: and case in point, this year they lost all five
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  Speaker 4: offensive linemen, lost their quarterback. They didn't sign a single
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  Speaker 4: transfer lineman, no quarterbacks from the portal. They're just doubling
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  Speaker 4: down on how they've recruited, which is, to their credit,
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  Speaker 4: above average. It's a top ten national average, number two
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  Speaker 4: in the conference behind Miami. But they're really going all
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  Speaker 4: in on that gamble whether they've recruited well enough to
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  Speaker 4: ignore the transfer portal, ignore the supplements from the portal.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you have a program like that, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to ebb and flow, and the younger years are
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  Speaker 4: going to take some growing pains, and the older years
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  Speaker 4: you want to cash in win conference titles and compete
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  Speaker 4: for national titles. Last year was supposed to be that
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  Speaker 4: older version of the team. It was all these nine
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  Speaker 4: eventual NFL draft picks. They only won seven games, so
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  Speaker 4: it did not work out last year. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be more of the same. I think a
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  Speaker 4: middle tier team. I have them right on the fringe
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  Speaker 4: of the top twenty five, and then recruiting is strong
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  Speaker 4: enough to keep them in the race. But I don't
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  Speaker 4: think they've you know, it's done enough from the transfer
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  Speaker 4: portal at all to go compete with Miami for the
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  Speaker 4: conference Brett.
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  Speaker 1: NC State's a very intriguing team to me. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: you got CJ. Bailey, a talent like that his third
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  Speaker 1: year with a school had done happen often nowadays. And
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  Speaker 1: then I look at that schedule and I just think
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  Speaker 1: that's the schedule of opportunity. I'm not saying they're a
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  Speaker 1: perfect team, right, but what do you think? What's your
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on NC State with that schedule this year
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  Speaker 1: in the ACC.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up schedule. They're the biggest
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  Speaker 4: schedule winners within the ACC. I mean, you look at this,
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  Speaker 4: this big middle tier of teams in the conference. It's
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  Speaker 4: hard to really separate them out, you know, from maybe
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  Speaker 4: fourth to eleventh, But they draw the best schedule. You
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  Speaker 4: look at it, They draw only one one of the
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  Speaker 4: ACC top five and instead they get six of the
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  Speaker 4: bottom seven. So you're talking a lot of games are
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  Speaker 4: going to be favored in this year, regardless of who's
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  Speaker 4: on the field. I love their quarterback, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: but I do have some concerns. And this happened a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years in a row now in the offseason
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  Speaker 4: where a lot of the proven star players, the all
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  Speaker 4: ACC type guys on NC State were poached from the
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  Speaker 4: transfer portal from other programs, and I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: they'd backfield enough from the portal in their own way,
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  Speaker 4: So questions across the roster. But with that quarterback, and
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  Speaker 4: with that schedule, and with Dave Dora, and he knows
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  Speaker 4: how to turn out eight nine win seasons, So I
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  Speaker 4: like NC State to finish in the top half of
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  Speaker 4: the league and really be a dark horse here with
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  Speaker 4: that schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Bret Duke has exceeded expectations both years under many DZ.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like this one it could be more of
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  Speaker 2: a struggle. Do you think Duke can do what they've
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  Speaker 2: done the last couple of years or could it be
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  Speaker 2: more of a step back based off of really losing
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  Speaker 2: Mensa to Miami.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is like a textbook rebuild year for me
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  Speaker 4: for Duke, and first off, want to give them a
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  Speaker 4: ton of credit. A dream season last year, you know,
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  Speaker 4: all the way to the a SEC title, game, they
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  Speaker 4: benefited from a five way tie and then got in
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  Speaker 4: there and they won the whole thing. It's unbelievable to
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  Speaker 4: think about. With that said, you know you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to change the history. I credit them for what they
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  Speaker 4: wont looking forward, though, when I look at my advanced stats,
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  Speaker 4: my power ratings, this team were actually grated tenth in
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  Speaker 4: the conference last year, tenth of seventeen. And then from there,
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  Speaker 4: I think they lose a lot of key players, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the defense gone, This big senior class they're
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  Speaker 4: winning US class in Duke history, that's all gone. And
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  Speaker 4: then of course they lost their star quarterback and receiver
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  Speaker 4: with Dariu Mensa and Cooper Barkate both going to South Beach.
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  Speaker 4: So I see a major step back in the win
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  Speaker 4: lost column. I've got them all the way down at
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  Speaker 4: twelfth in the conference this year.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about UNCA. Our lead in to
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  Speaker 1: you included the news that their GM, Michael Lombardi, has
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  Speaker 1: been placed on leave right now, so that's not ideal.
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  Speaker 1: But in terms of on the field this season, do
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  Speaker 1: you see any improved from the heels. How much better
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  Speaker 1: are they going to be than last year's debacle?
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  Speaker 4: Well, when you look back at last year Une, of
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  Speaker 4: course it started rough. TCU just blew their doors off
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  Speaker 4: into the opener, and really for about ten minutes there
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  Speaker 4: it looked like it was gonna work. UNC went right
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  Speaker 4: down the field, they scored first, and then it was
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  Speaker 4: like forty eight straight points the other way, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: that was just how.
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  Speaker 3: The season went.
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  Speaker 4: But there were some strengths last year. I thought the
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  Speaker 4: defense actually played well over the back half of the year.
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  Speaker 4: My advanced stats showed that they were actually a top
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  Speaker 4: ten defense over the back half of the season, but
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  Speaker 4: they were paired with a really struggling offense. And I
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  Speaker 4: think what Bilichick did this offseason in the coordinator game
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  Speaker 4: was really smart. He brought in Bobby Petrino, a guy
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  Speaker 4: who's really done well with offenses everywhere he's been. You
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  Speaker 4: look at his track record. He did well with a
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  Speaker 4: two win Arkansas team last year. They were like a
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  Speaker 4: top five offense. So hit side of the ball solid. Now,
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  Speaker 4: personnel wise, I have questions. A lot of starters are gone.
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  Speaker 4: I think only three starters on offense are back, only
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  Speaker 4: a couple on defense are back, so it's a total reload. Again,
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  Speaker 4: Usually you see that in year one UNC had last
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  Speaker 4: year with a big roster overhaul, but it's happening here
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  Speaker 4: again a second time around with the big transfer game,
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  Speaker 4: So very questionable all across this roster. I've got them
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  Speaker 4: towards the bottom of the league because the schedule heats
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  Speaker 4: up for them too. They only draw two of the
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  Speaker 4: AEC's bottom eight, so when we talked NC State, they
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  Speaker 4: have six of the bottom eight. UNC gets two of
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  Speaker 4: the bottom heat so it's it's give me a tough.
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  Speaker 1: Run for them this year, Bret, What do you think
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  Speaker 1: of the game Cocks and the SEC this year? A
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  Speaker 1: lot of pressure surrounding that program, But what do you
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  Speaker 1: think they can do with a well, what's like a
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  Speaker 1: better schedule than usual.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough for South Carolina and all these SEC teams.
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  Speaker 4: It's such a competitive league. I mean when you look
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  Speaker 4: at the transfer portal, because I do all sixty eight
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  Speaker 4: teams in the in the in the magazine here, and
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  Speaker 4: I see the talent flowing up from the ACC, from
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  Speaker 4: the Big twelve to the SEC and to the Big ten.
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  Speaker 4: So when you look at South Carolina's recruiting and transfers
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  Speaker 4: on paper, it looks awesome, but it's just like barely
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  Speaker 4: staying afloat within this conference. So I love their quarterback
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  Speaker 4: Lenora cell He's a creative duel threat guy. I like
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  Speaker 4: they paired him with Kendall Briles, who has excelled with
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  Speaker 4: those kind of quarterbacks. He's coached RG three and the
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  Speaker 4: Eric King and kJ Jefferson, So I like that higher.
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  Speaker 4: I like the D line. You know, there's parts of
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  Speaker 4: this team. I really like. It's just stuck in such
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  Speaker 4: a tough conference. I got them right around the middle
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  Speaker 4: of the pack.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that the SEC media picked Georgie. I was surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Texas, with Arch and their additions, I thought
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  Speaker 1: they would be the pick, but the SEC media went
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  Speaker 1: with Georgia to win a third straight SEC title. How
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  Speaker 1: do you have like the top three, in the top
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  Speaker 1: three or four ordered in the SEC?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well the top four. I think there's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: four playoff teams, so we'll go with that, and I
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  Speaker 4: agree with them picking Georgia to win it. They were
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  Speaker 4: the defending champs last year. They bring back Stets and
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  Speaker 4: Bennett quarterback, eight starters on defense. They recruit with the
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  Speaker 4: best of them five stars at every position, group and schedule.
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  Speaker 4: They actually as if they needed any extra help. They
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  Speaker 4: draw the easiest league schedule in the SEC. They're going
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  Speaker 4: to be back in Atlanta playing for the conference again.
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  Speaker 4: I've got them playing Oklahoma. Nobody else has this. I'm
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  Speaker 4: really high on Oklahoma. Their defense on their friends Venables
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  Speaker 4: is all back, most of it from last year. And
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  Speaker 4: then I think John Mattier their quarterback. Remember he had
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  Speaker 4: a bust at hand last year for most of the season.
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  Speaker 4: I think a second year within the conference, healthy hand,
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  Speaker 4: I think they're going to be a lot better on offense.
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  Speaker 4: So Georgia won Oklahoma two, and then I've got Texas.
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  Speaker 3: You hit on them.
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  Speaker 4: They were the offseason winners with that big transfer haul,
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  Speaker 4: top running backs in the country, top receiver, cam Coleman
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  Speaker 4: coming in arguably the top receiver there with Jeremiah Smith.
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  Speaker 4: So I love the firepower that they put around their leader,
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  Speaker 4: arch Manning. So I got them third and then fourth.
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  Speaker 4: I went Old Miss, a team that really impressed me
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  Speaker 4: last year in the playoffs without their head coach. They
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  Speaker 4: hunkered down together without Lane Kiffin and really improved their
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  Speaker 4: defense this offseason. So you have turned thatt Shaandliss at
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  Speaker 4: quarterback and improved defense So those are my four playoff
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  Speaker 4: teams from the league. I know others have LSU and
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  Speaker 4: HAAMA and A and M. I'm going with Georgia, Oklahoma Texas,
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  Speaker 4: and then Old Miss is the four spot.
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  Speaker 3: Brett.
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  Speaker 2: On a national level, do you have a surprise team
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  Speaker 2: do you think we should keep our eyes on?
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  Speaker 4: Well, maybe not so much surprise, but I need to
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  Speaker 4: put this in there with Oregon. So Oregon's my national
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  Speaker 4: champion pick. And that might not sound surprising here, but
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  Speaker 4: the surprise is that in last year's edition, in the
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five magazine, I printed there on the page
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  Speaker 4: I said, hey, not for this twenty twenty five, but
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  Speaker 4: twelve months from now, twenty twenty six, I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: pick Oregon to win the national playal next year. And
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  Speaker 4: here we are twelve months later. And I liked what
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  Speaker 4: I saw during the season, like what they brought in again,
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  Speaker 4: and now I'm sticking to it. So the twelve month
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  Speaker 4: future from last year, I'm sticking with it. I think
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  Speaker 4: Oregon wins their national championship, the one they've been waiting
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  Speaker 4: for their whole lives for. You look at top five
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  Speaker 4: recruiting three straight years, top five transfer stacked On top
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  Speaker 4: of that, I like their offense and their defense. Got
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback back with Dante Moore, so it would be
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  Speaker 4: the fourth straight Big Ten champion, fourth different Big Ten champion.
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  Speaker 4: I think Oregon is to pick this.
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  Speaker 1: Year who We've got three group of five schools here
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  Speaker 1: in the state. Uh, where do you think the most
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  Speaker 1: optimism should be? Whether it is ECU Charlotte both in
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  Speaker 1: the American or app State in the Sun Belt.
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  Speaker 3: Wait? Is there is there a team you've got optimism
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  Speaker 3: for out of those three?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm friend of app State. I mean I really
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  Speaker 4: like what they have built over the last couple of decades.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, for me, I'm based in Pennsylvania. I first
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  Speaker 4: learned of app State when they beat Michigan in the
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  Speaker 4: All Time Up that game, and quickly became a fan
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  Speaker 4: because you know, people around here all like Michigan, so
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  Speaker 4: I you know, we all became app State fans. And
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  Speaker 4: uh now it's been a heck of a run for them.
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  Speaker 4: I think with ECU, a little coaching change and a
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  Speaker 4: lot of their roster's gone, you know, Like I said,
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  Speaker 4: doing all sixty eight Power four teams, I saw East
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  Speaker 4: Carolina's name come up a lot in the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 4: All their star players are scattered across the league or
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  Speaker 4: across the Power four League. I should say, so I
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  Speaker 4: looked like a transitional type year there. So I'll go
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  Speaker 4: out state. I mean, I just trust their program trend
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  Speaker 4: and I know they're going to play hard news football
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  Speaker 4: and a beautiful place to watch a game. That's some
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  Speaker 4: of my favorite road trips was doing. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: love it down that part of the country.
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  Speaker 1: All right, brother, we appreciate app fans would like hearing that.
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  Speaker 1: Tell everybody where this is a great preview publication to
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  Speaker 1: get folks ready and smart for the season. How do
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  Speaker 1: they get your Pick six previews?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much. It's Pick Sixpreviews dot Com.
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  Speaker 4: That's the only way to get a Pick six Previews
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  Speaker 4: go check it out. Samples and testimonials there on Pick
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  Speaker 1: All right, Brett good luck with the with the Pick
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  Speaker 1: six previews again and thanks for coming on man. Enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the season.
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  Speaker 4: Oh thanks so much, appreciate it, guys.
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  Speaker 3: All right, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That is Brett Ciencia Pick six Previews, Pick six Previews
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  Speaker 1: dot Com and he's got ore again winning the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Paul Finbaum and Greg Sankey and everybody with
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  Speaker 1: the SEC would handle that real wealth.
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  Speaker 3: The big ten one to four.
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  Speaker 2: Stund people are saying, he said TETs and Bett, he
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  Speaker 2: made Gutnnter Stockton. I think he just got the He
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  Speaker 2: got the QB's names mixed up there.
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  Speaker 1: He did similar similar in that they're not like these
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, amazing immense talents, but they win.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there are some similarities there for that.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of immense talents, Joe Person of the Athletic dot Com,
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  Speaker 2: one of William and Mary's finest. He joins us next
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  Speaker 2: to talk about what he has seen at camp and
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  Speaker 2: also this NFL investigation anything into this with the scored injury.
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  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety.
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  Speaker 1: Two seven, WFZ Sports Radio ninety two seven, Wfnzmac and
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  Speaker 1: Bone hanging out with you Panthers off day to day
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  Speaker 1: for training camp tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: The pads will be a popping bone.
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  Speaker 1: Two things I like popping pads and popcorn.
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  Speaker 3: Baby, I don't know I had to share that. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I just do.
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  Speaker 1: If you could think of any other things you like popping,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: let me know. But I'm going I at what kind
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: of responses are gonna get? Actually we can get some
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: weird responses. But anyway, the pads. That's a long way, long,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: awkward way to say. The first padded practice of the
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: season is tomorrow. We're looking forward to being there.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Bone.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do our show live tomorrow. Coach Canalis, Dan Morgan, Bryce,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: among many others. JJ Jansen, America's long snapper, will join
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: us and then we're gonna take in the padded practice.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: But here's a man who is at every dang practice,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: every minute. He does not miss a second of what
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the Panthers are doing out there on the practice field,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and it shows in his work. He is tremendous Theathletic
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: dot Com for his awesome Panthers coverage. He is Joe person,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and he's nice enough to join us again here on
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the Mac and Bone Show.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Joe, what's going on?
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: You're going to get a do We're gonna get a
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: dry day for training camp here at some point, well.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Before we get into the weather. I want to address
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: things that are popping. So I'm old enough to remember,
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: and they still sell these things. I saw them this summer.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Pop rocks. Oh who remembers pop rocks. You put them
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: in your mouth and some sort of chemical stuff would
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: make them like pop in your mouth.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Like fireworks in your mouth. Also, things were weird. Why
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: did we buy them?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: There was also the urban legend right that if you
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: drank them with soda that you would explode.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: I believe, yeah you it does, and I'm sure it
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: wasn't true. But let me tell you bone, I never
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: drank a coke with those pop rocks.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it feels like a show bed
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: coming up here.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Fit you go grab a coke with the Vendgaria City
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Radio stunt. Baby, let's do it. See if you survive it?
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've never I've.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Never met someone that said, hey, did you hear about
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Arthur or no, what happened? Well he tried pop rocks
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and soda. I feel like you could survive this fitty.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Would that be a problem with hr?
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: If we had to explain that Fitty's mouth exploded live
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: on the radio. Oh man, all right, anyway, to start with,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: he was a great throwback for us old people. Joe,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I love that man, all right. So yes, it's ben rainy.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Devin Lloyd loves it. Coming from Jacksonville,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: he has loved the rain and the cool weather. What
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: has I'll say this, give me a couple of who's
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: who are some of the folks that have stuck out
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the most in a positive way, albeit non padded but
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: the first few practice who've been the standouts for you?
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Shaw Smith Wade has gotten off to a good start.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: He had a very nice pick of Bryce on Saturday,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Friday or Saturday. Uh No, they were off Saturday, so
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know what day.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: It was a Friday, but I think he ended up
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: with two.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: I think he ended up with two picks that day.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: So he's looked good. Yesterday just seem read, you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: a wide receiver kind of down the roster who probably.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Won't make the team.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: There have to be a lot of injuries, but he
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: had a good day. I think Jonathan Brooks has looked
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: good and you know we we have added a caveat
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: we did all spring with Brooks because it was a
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: hundred you know one full speed, it was in shorts
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: and helmets. Well that's still the case. So I think
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: tomorrow with full pads will be kind of the next
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: benchmark for Jonathan Brooks in his return from two acls.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: But I'm sure I'm missing a couple of guys. I mean,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Bryces look good man. Bryce did a really good day yesterday.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: He had a couple of plays that were kind of
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: the vintage Bryce that the one I remember from from
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: early on in team period. He was the pocket, got
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: got flushed out of the pocket, He rolls to his
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: left and kind of slipped and pass back across his
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: body to his old Alabama teammate John Metchi, which was,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: you know, a nice improv play for Bryce. So there's
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: a few just kind of off the top of my head.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Joe, what's been your assessment of XL so far through
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: CAMPIT and where do you think he ultimately fits in
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: right now in that wide receiver room.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: He's looked fine, He's looked good. He came back in
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: really good shape. I know Sheena Quick did a piece
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: on him that he's gotten into boxing is a way
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: to you know, get into to train and get himself fit.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: And it was successful. He looked, he looks good. I
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: think there were times that he has said that, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: he was maybe a little heavy, or the Panthers certainly
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: thought he was. Maybe that's what he was saying. That
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: they had relayed to him that they'd like to see
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: him a little leaner. Where he fits is interesting. I am.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: You know, I think he's certainly among the top six receivers.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, let's get crazy. I'm not suggesting that he
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: could get cut, but I like that third receiver position
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: battle and I mentioned John METSI think you throw his
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: name into that, into that battle, that that competition, as
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: well as Chris Brasel Obviously. I asked Canalis about playing
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Temac in the slot more a couple of days ago
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: and because that's sort of been a theme, and he said, yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: they want to try to do that. And he mentioned
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: that that Brasle playing on that single side receiver side,
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: and his ability, his his length and his speed give
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: them the ability. And I think the internet went crazy
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: with it thinking that Brasl's already ahead of X and
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know that that's the case, but it could
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: be here, you know, in another month. So anyway, that's
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: that's one of the more intriguing position battles I want
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: to watch.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Real intriguing, no doubt about it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: If you want to read about all this intriguing stuff
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: going on in Panther camp, read Joe person stuff, the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: athletic dust Joe how much. Let's see, last week was
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: a rough week for health News, right we found out
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: about Taylor Moten and man, I'm wishing him the best.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: That's no joke. That's some serious stuff he's dealing with.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: That's way above football. But if you look at the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: football impact of what happened to him and the fact
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that he is going to start the season, you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: on the sidelines, and then the Nick Scorton injury, does
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: do those two things like make you think, man, they
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: might not be as good as I was expecting them
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to be. Or do you look at these things and say, no,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they can overcome these things. Collectively?
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it tempered things a little bit for me, just
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: because with Moten and Icky both, I mean you're talking
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: about their two starting tackles since twenty twenty two. I mean,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: it wasn't just like from last year and luckily, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: you know, Dan Morgan had taken steps to address the death.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: But you know, obviously drafting Monroe Freeling and then signing
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Rashid Walker, but bumping those guys up means that the
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: now what was considered depth are now starting and so
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: your depth is going to be impacted behind them. When
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: you're talking about uh Stone for safe, I mean, Brady
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Christiansen was a good signing, but I saw Brady playing
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: mostly guard in the early parts of camp. But we
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: know he can play all across the board, so yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: and then scorting, I mean that that's just you hate
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: it for the kid. You know, he had a really
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: nice rookie season. I was impressed with what he did
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and how he handled himself in the locker room. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: remember after I forget which game, but after one of
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: their kind of mid season losses, he thought, you know
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: that there wasn't enough urgency, and as a rookie to
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: come out and say that, I thought that showed a
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: lot of moxy and yeah, that's tough, that's tough, and
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: put a lot of onus now, on Patrick Jones and
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Princely hum and me Ellen and thought Canalis kind of
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: challenged Princely the other day, saying that they need to
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: see him become a little more complete player, not just
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: be a guy that they throw in on obvious passing downs,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: but a guy they can trust to hold up and
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: be stout against the run on first and second down
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Joe, do you think there's full faith in Jones and
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Princely or ultimately will they want to bring someone else in,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: whether it's a current free agent or when someone gets
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: released from their current team.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they want to just kind of see
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: how these next couple of weeks play out. That's my sense.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: So I don't think it would be any sort of
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: move in the immediate following that the injuries the immediate aftermath.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: But could they do it at cutdowns? Yeah? Absolutely, But
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: I think they want to see what they have as they,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: you know, go into these joint practices and they even
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: before the joint pride, just when they start doing one
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: on ones here against their own offensive lineman. See how
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Pat Jones, I mean, he you know, he's a guy.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: I liked what he had to say the other day.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: He said, you know, I was a free agent last year.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I played in four games, and I had a lot
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: to prove like I came here with with some big goals,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: and he's the guy. Of course, Pat had the back
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: surgery back procedure to alleviate a herniated disc, and so
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: he and Princely and there are other guys too. I mean,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: but they brought back cam Gill, but I think he's
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: more of a depth and special teams piece than anything.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Uh So, yeah, I think bottom line, I do think
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: down the road there could be an option to add
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: that position if these guys don't have great summers.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Joe, what is your feeling on Bryce Young? Clearly it
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: feels like they want to see more, right, Like he's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: improved every year, but can you be more consistent? Take
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: it to another level? Like what is your gut feeling
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: on like does he earn an extension after this season?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And like what will it take to earn an extension?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Do you think from him? Well, I mean another step forward.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I always go back to what Brent Tillis said last
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: year around this time and that Bryce is an ascending player.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: You know, we believe in him, and and then and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: he did take a step forward in his third season.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Bryce did, And the consistency has to improve, and we've
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: seen some really huge splash games out of him last season,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: had Atlanta against the Rams and the playoffs other games games,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: but then we'd see other times where like kind of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: took a while for him to get going in the game.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: He did not play well against a very granted, a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: very good Seattle defense. So it's that that is the question.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: That will loom over this team all season because I
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: do not think they're going to do I don't think
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I don't think they have any intentions to extend him
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: before the year, So it is kind of a wait
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: and see deal. I mean, picking up the fifth year
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: option was a no brainer, like that's what twenty five million,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: But that next step when you start talking about getting
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: into the upper echelon of quarterback salaries like that, is
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: they have to be right on that because you know
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: they may obviously I'm a huge investment with draft picks
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: when when they picked him, but it's going to be
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: a big investment if they decide to extend him. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: and you can't be wrong on.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That, Joe, do thin there's anything into the NFL uh
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out what happened with the scoring injury,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: if the CBA was violated, what do you think of
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: that situation? And did you see exactly what happened to
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: score and when he got hurt?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I did poke around on it over the weekend bone
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: And here's where I come down on it. They clearly
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: they're out there in shorts and helmets like they're you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: they're not in full pads. And it was the acclamation period,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: and you can do football drills during the acclamation period
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: and it's not like, you know, you're just standing around
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: doing walkthrough. The gray area to me has always been
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: like live contact. And I think in Dave Canalis, he
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: was part of the Seattle staff, by the way, like
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Pete Carroll, they they always would kind of push it
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: to the limit on OTAs, and they went over the limit.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: They three different times while while Canalis was was in Seattle,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Carrol got and the Seahawks got penalized the third for
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: too much contact during OTA's. One of them might have
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: been in camp, but two of them were otis. The
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: third time they lost a draft pick. They lost a
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: fifth round pick. So you know that doesn't mean Dave
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Canalis is complicit and he's doing the same things Pete
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Carroll's is doing. In fact, Canalis said yesterday, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: having gone through that experience, he feels like he's done
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: a good job educating the players on what's allowed what's
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: not allowed. Like they're not out there tackling. I mean,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: sometimes guys go down to the ground in these non
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: contact practices, and I think that was the case with
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately with Nick Scorton. Tommy Tremble, who was on the
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: field and who did see it, or at least has
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: seen the video of it. He said, look, this was
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: an unfortunate deal. It was more of a fluke than
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: anything else. And uh, I feel like the Panthers, just
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: from what I've been able to determine, they feel that
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: that they're in the right here. They were compliant and
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: and they will be cleared. But but we'll see.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Joe, I've got a friend that is a Braves fan
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that has texted me right now. I already had to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: deal with him. They won the series over my Wrioles
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: this weekend. But now he says, does Joe want to
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: does Joe the Phillies fan want to concede the division
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: live on the air now that we appear to have
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: thwarted their charge, Are you buying that or are you
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: not backing down yet?
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Joe, No, you must.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Your buddy must have seen me. I wore a Phillies
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: hat out to practice on it and taped the little
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: video for the athletics. So now I'm stuck with it now,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: like I can't back off of it. Hopefully, hopefully they
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: hang in there. They're they're about play your orioles.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I know this weekend, Man, This weekend brings back memories
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of that world series Man, when we were young. We
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: were young back then.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Pop Pop Rocks in nineteen eighty three Baseball with Rick
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Dempsey behind the dish for the Oria.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: There you go, baby, I love it. Let's do some
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: real old man talk, Joe, go ahead and promote your
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: new venture you got there with with Duncan Gina. We're
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: looking forward to this. I know you guys did an
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: episode last week Ahead and tell us how this came about.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Where we can find it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it. There's a gentleman out in LA
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: who has been putting together a lot of these podcasts
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: that called the Collective Ours not naturally is called the
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Panthers Collective, but a lot of my athletic colleagues are
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: doing it. Doing these on their beats, and so seemed
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: like a cool opportunity. I've obviously done a ton of
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: podcasts over the years, but never been a part of
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: one where it's every week. So Sheena and Dunk, I'm
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I'm just kind of like the old guy, just trying
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: to stay in my lane, as evidenced by the pop
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Rocks reference. But it was fun. We did it last week.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: It's a YouTube deal. I'll you know, I'll tweet out
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: the link and I think we're gonna try to do
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: it every Wednesday evening. So it's a free deal. You
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: just subscribe to YouTube and we'll talk all things Panthers.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: All right, that's a great, great trio. That's that's got
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to be an awesome listener. Remember the Athletic dot Com
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to read all of Joe's work as well. Thank you, Joe,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: appreciate We'll see you out there tomorrow. Brother, appreciate you.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Sounds good, you all have great week.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Thanks you all.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: That is Joe person joining us on the Mac and
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Bone Show Theathletic dot Com.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Now, we have a tweet here from Andy Staples in
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: regarding the news today that Michael Lombardi on paid administrative
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: leave from the University at North Carolina, not the athletic department,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: So that's in resting. Andy Staple says, not sure. I
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: remember the last piece of college football breaking news where
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: so many people from fans to people in the business
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: reacted with so much goy. Yeah, he really is not
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: high on the like of Billity. Fans are celebrating, everyone's
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: celebrating to that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: He's not that part of it too, right where you
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and c fans are like, hey, if we don't have
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: him around, we might be better. But he just is
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: not a warm and fuzzy personality. I know Pat McAfee
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: has worked very hard Bone to try to make him likable.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think it has worked.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, this that's kind of he's Steve, that's the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: way it's going to go.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Steve Wolfong of twenty four to seven tweeted out he
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: also acted like he was going to come in and
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: completely change the landscape of college football.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Like everybody involved in talent acquisition and college football, Bone
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: was a moron and a peon compared to his giant brain,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and she didn't do much in the pros. By the way,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: we're still not sure you know what he did. It
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: was so great. You're right in the pros when and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: check two the egos. Those two had the thirty third
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: NFL team. I mean, I just if that ends up failing,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I don't wish you. I don't hope it does. I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: want Carolina to be a damn factor in football consistently.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: But if they fail, bone there will be they will
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: definitely be, definitely no doubt about it. Hey, fiddy, are
• 33:21
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, he really oscillated my first fitty flash.
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  Speaker 3: That was the word of the day.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if Mac made it known. Guys, the
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  Speaker 6: little issue. Everything's being recorded. It'll be edited and posted
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  Speaker 6: after the show. I'm not being lazy. I just cannot
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  Speaker 6: do it during the show like I normally do.
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  Speaker 3: So we can look out for that.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: And also Mac, we got a bunch of texts during
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: the show about rookie Jackson Coivin winning the three M
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  Speaker 6: Open yesterday, out dueling Scottie Scheffler to win the first
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: event after the Open Championship. He finished twenty five under
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: par for the tournament and earned one point six million
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: dollars with yesterday's win alone. Grew up in Chapel Hill
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: to yeah, Chapel Hill High School native went to Auburn.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think he has any he grew up in
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Chapel Hill? You think he can get us some scoop
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: on what Lombardi did. I need to know, very curious.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I need to know how scandalous could this be? I
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: need to know. I need to know. Some of the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: texts were getting I don't even know if I should read,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: but like the fake scenarios, yeller, no read them.
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  Speaker 6: Also, by the way, the Bills have released new uniforms.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: My question is why just look at him? What are
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: what are we doing?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: These aren't an upgrade, you're saying, No, they're They're gray
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  Speaker 1: with blue letters, some red and white trim, a different helmet.
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  Speaker 3: What are what are we doing?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a look at those during the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: break when we come back. We get you sat for
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the day and night in sports, and we get you
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: prepared for what you're gonna hear year tomorrow. On the
• 36:01
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  Speaker 2: Radio ninety two seven WFNZ, there he is Charles Barkley
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  Speaker 2: with Stephen A. Smith complaining about having to do a
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  Speaker 2: call on a Friday. That is the New York Butcher
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  Speaker 2: Chop cut of the day. Dil Warth forreally is any
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  Speaker 2: And why but your wine bar?
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  Speaker 5: Mac?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I have a question about Charles Barkley. Is it when
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it's not the basketball season? Kendy Golf every day of
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the week if he wants to, is it every day?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Kind of like Friday for chalk.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: He had just said his plan was to golf every
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: day this but like he got upset there one of
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: those days got messed up.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and guess you made up for
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: it already.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: How does How does somebody golf every day and the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: swing still looks like that? I mean, I will say this,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I think he has gotten better, though, yeah, I can't
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: talk about swings. I think he has gotten better. He
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: at least don't wear jeans on the course, you know
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Still, you you're you're pushing every button right now, Mac,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I saw you've said that my golf shot was the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: worst ever. The one that went backwards, hit off the tree,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: hit off the car, ended up ten yards behind me.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I saw a barstool guy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: The other day.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Mikey Betts hit a shot that may be the worst
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: golf shot in a history of recording golf shots. He
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: took a swing back and I'm not even sure how
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: it happened. The ball ended up in the ground where
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: he was standing, like he knocked it like into the grass,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: into like the like submerged like in the grass like
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  Speaker 2: a divot. I've never seen a ball back in the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: earth before like that. I even I couldn't figure that
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  Speaker 2: one out. Oh my god, it does sound like a
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: malfunction right there. It does.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of malfunctioning, I think Stiffler's broke
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: on the text line. Stiffler needs to take a cold
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: shower some of these texts he has sent us. I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: don't think I've ever had to issue a cold shower
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: edict to a texture before. I believe Stiffler needs to
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: settle himself. Now getting a little bit weird over our
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: own party down boy, old Stifflert, I guess like his
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Kinks Lombardi and Jordan Hudson, I guess now Urban Myers,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: everyone's got their thing man his latest text as Urban
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Myron fault right anyway. Coming up tonight, Braves, Joe Person
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: is not conceding the division of the Braves, even though
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Atlanta's now up five and a half games. Braves will
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: try to win their fourth straight series since the All
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Star Break. I'm gonna say there's a pretty good chance
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: they could do it. They open with the Mets tonight, Bony.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Although the Mets are on a streak, right, fitty, how
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: many of the rosa now one?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It was the Dodgers, though, Damn the Orioles. That series
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: was there for the Orioles. Man, it was.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Where are the Orioles? Magnet? They should have won yesterday's game. Man,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: it's crazy.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Though.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: We talked earlier about how many buyers at the deadline.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Orioles are fifty one and fifty five,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: but they're two and a half out of the wild.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're in.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: And every owners spoke this week and Tigers are he
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: wants send to buy.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Tigers are six. Onder, they're three and a half out.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, it sees it's crazy. Man's wild too. Man,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the Marlins Mack have lost twelve in a row. They're
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: three back in the wildcard. How about so the wild
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: card intended? That's what I intended. How about the Marrows?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: The Marlins and their Triple A team, the Jumbo Shrimp
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: have lost twenty four straight games combined. Tripoyde, Man, that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: organization's on fire right now. Baby, that's the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: right yeah, remember that from when I was down there.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: All right, anyway, let's get some of the text, shall
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  Speaker 1: we right now seven oh four, five, seven oh nine,
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  Speaker 1: an app State fans reaction. In a second, Bone and
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  Speaker 1: We have to address something here.
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  Speaker 3: Bone.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Brett says he is high on app State this year,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: but brought up the reason why is he's always loved
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: them since they beat Michigan, because he doesn't like Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: APP State fans. This is a rare moment.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: App State fans are met at him, Bone because they
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  Speaker 1: are saying we're not gonna be good, and you have
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  Speaker 1: it wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have asked him about that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I did not realize Bone, his magazine is only about
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the Power Conference teams.
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  Speaker 3: That's on me.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So I think he got I think he got a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: little out of his depth there on that one.
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  Speaker 2: So at fans, I was just I was just about
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: to tell him before he came. I remember, keep it
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to the the power schools on me. I thought, Mac
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: knows we've had him on every year I put him
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: in a trusted mac on that one.
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  Speaker 1: And APP fans are mad, not the Charlotte fans who
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: didn't get a mention in his answer.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Fans.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: APP fans are mad because he said I think they're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be good.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: At fans are mad then he they got praised, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: UNC fans are happy that their GM is on leave.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll see if more details come out on that
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: administrative leave for Lombardi. This texter says best job ever
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: suspended with pay for Lombardi. Yeah, it sounds good right now,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: but there's clearly an investigation over something that could lead
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: bone to him being fired and then not having to pay.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And what's the what's the Belichick tie into there?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: We don't know.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Is this just a isolated the Lombardi thing, does it
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: tie into the football program, is an NT double eight thing?
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Or is he just a bad guy? Like we have
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: no idea.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like he probably did something personally, but
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: That's just the fact that the school's involved and not
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the athletic department. I mean, I guess that's got to
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: mean behavior old. I don't know. We'll see, well, we'll
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: find out. That's as Finny just said during the break.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: You know, guys, he could just be a bleephole. I
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: believe there's evidence.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I believe we've seen some evidence that that's a possibility,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: is a non zero chance bone that that is possible.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: You know what makes me upset about it, and that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: he's gonna if he has to leave there, he's gonna
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: come back into the media world. He's gonna say something
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: about the Panthers again, he's gonna write a book, We're
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: gonna put him on the show again, and we're gonna
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: have to say, hey, Mike, we didn't like you when
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: you were you and it's me whole thing.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I could say this.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't like him long before he got to you
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and see, but he was right about Frank Reich and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: we were wrong. I have to say that, texter O,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: this is Ishmael. Willy Pea's word of today is oscillate, apparently,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: as in Willy p oscillates between boring and unintelligent. Oh
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: my god, sick the fitty smile, my gosh, another Texter.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I'm pumped Charlotte FC one on Saturday. But isn't it
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: amazing The way when they when they win a game,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Willy barges in the studio looking for airtime when they lose.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: He's in the Witness Protection program. He might have pe
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: on that one. By the way, I'm very happy they
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: got that done.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: W was upset because he says that he did not
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: put up thirteen and four on the wind board. So
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: we apologize. We don't want him upset, so we put
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  Speaker 2: up his actual prediction of fourteen in program.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: He go pee?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Is that better?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: My favorite? My favorite text, Oh shoot, I'm sorry, Willy,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. My favorite text of today is a text
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that said bone. Do you cook it all?
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: No?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean you like fitty as every meal thing
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you know define cooking. I have made Tara a meal
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: about five or six times. Alrighty, Godfather pizza, grilled Jesus
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: grill guys.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: She loves the grilled cheese.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Now, I can't really venture too far beyond that, but
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I'll throw a little bacon in the grilled cheese.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: How do you make the grilled trees? Do you put
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: mayo or Butter's gotta.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Be mayonnaise makes so much better cheese. Can you do breakfast?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: That's the easiest? Even mine sorry, I can do Yeah,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I can do that. Yeah, I'm not great. I don't
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: like grits that so much. Oh to something good French?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: French dost you got that. I have a little prow.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I can do French jo's. I have trouble with the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: pancakes because I can't get to flip down right. Yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I can't flip them right away. I've never really done
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the pancakes. I always screw up the flips. So then
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: what I do is I call a place that can
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: do pancakes for me. I will point out Caitlin, my daughter,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and can do pancakes t Boney.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: So maybe you need some lessons. Are you good with
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: your wrists with the flip? Oh? My wrist action is
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: as good as.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Bone. That was on you bone. You lobbed that up
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: for him. You knew what you were doing.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Text earlier, real quick, some text said earlier today Mac
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: turned that bum ass android phone off.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I came in.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: From another Apple iPhone elitist and somebody asked, why does
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: LeVar Ball sound like a w w E wrestling promo
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: because he's been there is Yeah?
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Is this new?
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I mean has he sounded like that? Making that?
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: We were having a very serious talk with Paul Domowitch
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and your android went off right in the middle the interview.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: That's when the guy said, get your boom ass.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Android out of here all right, anyway, that has nothing
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to do with the android.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: That is user error and were going camping.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Oh live from camp tomorrow, Baby panther jacket ready to go, Canalis, Morgan, Bryce,
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  Speaker 1: and more. We will interview on this show live from
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Camp tomar on the first day of padded practice, so
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: make sure you tune in. Bone gonna be dressed to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the nines. We're out of here, y'all. Charlotte Sports Today
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  Speaker 1: coming up next. Everybody, keep it here.