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- Kait Tregenza: Hello and welcome back to another episode of Becoming Fame. I am your host, Kait Tregenza Well, if you've been listening to us for a while, you will start to understand that Becoming Fame is the kind of place where we burn what no longer fits, what no longer sparks, we speak to what was never meant to stay silent. ⁓ conversation is for the woman who feels it in her throat. ⁓ The words unsaid, the truth softened or massaged into being a little bit nicer, a little bit softer, a little bit easier to hear. You know the parts of her that learned it was safer to stay quiet, never being fully seen, never being fully able to express herself, to be in herself. And so today we're really going to talk about when you hold back your voice in one area of your life. You start holding back everywhere. It doesn't stay contained to just what you say. It seeps into your relationships, your work, your creativity, your body. And suddenly you're not just being careful. You're disconnected. You're stuck. You're performing. You're living in a half-life. You're living in a half-truth. You're stuck outside of the vibrancy and the fullness of your life force of your vitality of your eros of your desire. And all you thought you were doing was just being nice. So today our guest in our conversation is really trying to discover is like, what if you're not actually blocked? What if nothing is wrong with you? What, what if your body just doesn't feel safe enough to express? So instead perfectionism steps in, overthinking takes over. You hesitate, you filter. You shrink, your voice shakes. Not because you lack power, because the power is in you, but because your system learned it wasn't safe to hold it. So it suppressed it, it repressed it, it rejected it. So today I'm joined by Sarah Asher Rose, who works at the intersection of voice creativity and the body. She teaches you that voice isn't something you find, it's something that emerges when your body finally feels safe enough to be seen because your expression is the bridge back to who you are. Your voice isn't just sound, it's your truth, it's your power, it's your magnetism. It's connected to a deeper wisdom deep within you that knows who you are. And as you work your voice, it will change. It will shift where you speak. It's something that I myself am working on. more and more and as I do this podcast more I can feel my voice shifting from my throat to my chest and down and down and down. I'm sort of speaking from my solar plexus these days but I want to speak from my pussy I want to speak from my womb I want to get deeper and deeper and It's about knowing the power of your voice and knowing that it's more than just speaking. It's about returning. And so in this conversation, we really explore what it takes to create that safety within yourself so that your authentic voice can come through. So it's raw, so it's unfiltered, so it's fully alive. Now, Sarah herself is a channel and she's doing light language transmissions and speaking to other people's and herself higher powers. and probably in some ways you can say the galactic aspect of all of us. And so we're really gonna go into what it means to use your light and to use your voice in that light in an intergalactic cosmic sense and what that means in a 3D reality where we're living as humans. It's gonna be a very fascinating conversation. So I can't wait to bring her in. Let's go get her now, Sarah Asher Rose. welcome to the Sarah Asher Rose. ⁓ Lovely to meet you. Sarah: Hi, so nice to meet you too. Thank you for having me. Kait Tregenza: So we had a really beautiful meet cute moment where just a couple of moments before I contacted you, were requesting more podcast interviews and requesting to get your voice out. And then you were like, ⁓ my God, that's so crazy. I just, I literally just asked for this and then your message comes through. I think my first question on that therefore is when you Sarah: Yes. Yes. Kait Tregenza: because you're in these higher frequencies and these higher energies all the time, does the spontaneity and the synchronicity just become so normal for you now? Sarah: Yes and no because I'm still human right so I still have those I still have those moments where I'm like oh my god I'm still what's that? Kait Tregenza: But it still does. It's still fun. It's still like, ⁓ that's so cool that that just happened. Sarah: Yes, yes. I'm like, wow, that's weird. And then somebody will be like, is that really weird, though? And I'm like, no, it's I mean, it's magical. It's like, wow. I forget. I think I sometimes forget because that's what we do, right? As humans, we forget. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: Yeah, as well. So you came to your awakening and you came to your spiritual kind of gifts and channeling abilities, ⁓ kind of late later in life. And so you've had this opportunity. Well, I mean, as in you weren't doing this as a child. Sarah: my parties. No, well, I wasn't like, no, I wasn't speaking light language as a child. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. And so you kind of know what your life was before and after and I'm really interested in from a lived experience, what has really been the thing that's changed for you? Sarah: Yeah. So, know, I think like most people as a child, I probably was very open, right? Because you're so close to source, right? And I think I was lucky because I had a grandmother who was a psychic medium. So I had some understanding of that world. And when I was a teenager, a lot of my clear audience came online and there was like a lot of psychic chatter, intuitive knowing and dreams and things like that. ⁓ but sort of like most people I got lost in, ⁓ who I should be and growing up and dealing with the adult real world and becoming successful and all that. ⁓ I got pregnant with my daughter. got married young, had a dysfunctional relationship. I got lost and all of that. So I think when I started channeling and when I had the awakening in my like mid thirties, that was, it took me maybe 10 years to catch up. Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Sarah: after that. So even though I had that awakening, I still had a lot of human problems. So ⁓ it's like a multi dimensional experience, you know, you you grow up knowing who you are, you're born into the world, knowing you forget, you have a spiritual awakening, you remember, but then you still are integrating that, right? Kait Tregenza: Yes. Sarah: integrating, integrating, integrating, and I had some hard learning lessons when I started channeling and expectations and judgment and fear and persecution and fear of speaking my truth and being judged and persecuted and gosh, all of that. ⁓ So it took me a while to sort through all of that to really get to like my own truth and what channeling really meant for me and not necessarily what it was for other people and There's just a lot to that. I know I don't want to go off on a tangent. Does that answer your question a little bit? Yeah. Kait Tregenza: I totally understand. And part of the reason that I asked you was while I was a child that had very open gifts, I found very quickly, ⁓ this is not a good, this is not a gift. didn't feel like a gift as a child. And, ⁓ like so many of the kinds of, ⁓ people that are coming at this time, activating their gifts. I also had a lot of trauma, a lot of pain, a lot of things. that really slammed that down. And it wasn't until I was, I think like 27, 28, something like this, they all came back online, like really suddenly. And it was this like dark to light, I think. I was always an intuitive person. I was always able to like move with the flow and create and like had a lot of spontaneity and like had a lot of luck. Sarah: Yes. Yes. Kait Tregenza: People would used to like call it like, you're really lucky. And I think at that point it was luck because I wasn't working consciously with energy. was just like being guarded and followed. But like you, when I came online, I came online in a really like full way. And I saw a lot of myself in your story. ⁓ And that's why I'm so excited to Sarah: Yeah. Random, Yeah. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: have this conversation with you today because I too have had to really work at, it's actually funny because we're about to talk about the voice and like I'm already feeling like it here. ⁓ it's interesting. ⁓ but yeah, I had to really own my voice. And when I started the way that I started getting access into light language, was a woman who was doing some light language channeling. I was in the audience and she actually made a B for me at the end. And she said, do you know that you, do you know who you are? And I was like, what level are you asking me this question on? Like, how would you like me to answer? Like what, at what level? And ⁓ she said, can you turn your hands over please? And I, and I did. Sarah: Mm. That's a deep question. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: And there was this illumination, like almost like I had painted, highlight, you know, like when you go into a neon room and you like, it's like highlighted. And so I had all of these coats like highlighted on my hands. And she was like, can you start speaking right now, please, and see what comes out. And I just started speaking light language and I didn't understand. Sarah: Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Kait Tregenza: the words, but I understood what they meant. And that was a really different experience until I started like speaking more and more and more. And it was like almost having a full comprehension of a language that you didn't understand, but you understood. Sarah: Like intuitively, yeah. Yes, the multi-dimensional part of it. Yes. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. So when I came across your profile, I was like, Oh, we could have such a cool conversation. Sarah: Wow, sounds like it. That's beautiful. I didn't know that. I mean, how would I know it? But thank you for sharing that with me. Yeah. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: And so I really understood how prosecution and persecution started to play and come into my body in a much, much more profound and deep way in these gifts. ⁓ I found a woman called Judy Satori who's very open in her light language transmissions. Sarah: Yeah. I know her. Yes. Yes. I know her for a long time. Kait Tregenza: And listening to her, I started being able to write out in English what she was saying. And that was like, okay, I'm starting to get, I'm starting to understand this language. Sarah: How amazing. That's an amazing gift to be able to understand it. A lot of people, they question it. What is it? I don't understand it. I've had, I think I encountered one woman in Maine. She's like, I understand everything you're saying. And she was like translating for me. ⁓ that was amazing. That was wild. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Yeah. So when it shows up for you, is it more like a feeling of like, this is what I kind of know it's saying, or is it like, I'm just going to sit here and be the vessel through which this comes. Sarah: It's both. It's been, I'm working with a woman right now and helping her step into her light language. And she was like, how do I use it? What is it for? And I'm like, it's many things and it's been many things for me. So ⁓ there are times where I just feel like I'm meant to speak in and allow it to flow through me to receive it. And sort of like I was describing to her, it's like, shedding skin and like stepping into my true self. Like almost like I'm a human being and then I go into the water and my mermaid tail comes out and I'm like, you know, that's, that's sort of like, that's how I feel. I'm just like, like that sometimes I speak it like that, you know, where, where other times when I speak it, I was saying this to her this morning. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sarah: Divine Mother, Father Shakti, who, Hi, yourself. I feel like they're speaking to me through me in the light codes. And I'm like touching my face and I'm like, you're so beautiful. And they're like, they're like speaking to me through me through the light codes and I'm saying it, but it's them through me. So there's that part of it. There's the times where it comes through when I'm giving specific words. Kait Tregenza: you Sarah: And I'll sort of be guided to look them up and they have meaning and it's like Sanskrit or Hebrew or it's like an amalgamation of different, like a suite of like codes that are just, you know, all strung together from different languages. It's the, that's fascinating when that happens. And then I'm feel, I feel like I'm supposed to like actually translate it, you know, and break it down. There's those times. Other times I feel like it's for healing. where I'm like, you know, just like sounds and tones and there's right of literal translation. It's just recoding, recalibrating, turning on key codes. don't know, you know, it's just so it's many different. It has been many different things. It's so it's such a Kait Tregenza: Just tell. Do you have a talent for other languages in, know, other like French, Spanish, German, Japanese? Like, do you have any languages that other people actually know the meaning of? Sarah: I have a fascination for language, but I'm not multilingual. just, I took Spanish, a little Italian. But it's interesting because there are times, I was just saying this this morning too, sometimes a light language will sound Native American to me. Sometimes it will sound Chinese, Hawaiian. And I get this sense that our languages, right? We are, I mean, this is a whole nother conversation, but. we've been seeded by, you know, our galactic brothers and sisters. So all of the language sort of have roots in those different lineages. So sometimes I get a sense of that when I hear, especially when I hear a lot of the Asian languages and when I hear Native American languages, I sort of get that sense, you know, but I myself only speak human language of English, you know. Kait Tregenza: Tell me about what it's like for you and your personal experience to channel. Are you seeing a movie? Are you feeling anything in your body? Are you just letting words come through? Like what's your unique style? We're old. Sarah: Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, that's a great question. So when so that experiences different like channeling light language versus trans channeling. So when I first started channeling when I was around 34, my light language came in, but I also started trans channeling. So I would channel this creation goddess called the mana, and she would speak light language through me. But I also learned how to then start speaking English as I was channeling her. So then over the years, I started channeling other ascended masters and light beings and galactic team members. So my experience when I would channel in that sense, when I would go into a trance, is a lot different from just me speaking light language, because that's so natural to me. So that experience, I would more sort of like feel that this energy would blend with my consciousness. Kait Tregenza: guess. Sarah: So it wasn't that I wasn't put put I think some channels say they're like kind of tucked away and they go somewhere else. You know, but I I felt like no, I became them I became the aspect of them. were blended in one. So I was sort of like, participating even though like Sarah was here. I was that being and yes, sometimes I would get visions or when I would channel in a group, I would sort of be pulled to certain people and I would feel their energy. and like see things around them and there would be like messages and I would all of my psychic senses would sort of work. ⁓ When I speak light language for others and sometimes I use it in that way for healing or messages. Yeah, sometimes I'll get a story like all sort of it's like everything happens at once. It's like I see, feel, know. Yes, yes. Yeah, it's like you slow it down and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Kait Tregenza: Yes, and then have to slow it down and unravel it and then translate. Sarah: I'm getting this all at once. And I was saying this morning also to my client that sometimes the light codes, it's like your way to access that instantly. It's like you plug into that electric socket and you're instantly connected through the codes. And then the messages can come in. So it's sort of like you just start speaking and then the messages come in. So yeah. Kait Tregenza: What's the lady's name? What's the being's name that you channel? Sarah: I'm on a I'm on a ha Allah I'm on a yeah she was the first she's by Kait Tregenza: She's so present. She's so present with you. Sarah: ⁓ you feel a mana. Kait Tregenza: was interesting when you were describing how she works through you, I was experiencing what that would be like. Like she was, so I felt this like, doesn't take over your body. just like merges with you and is like, let me massage this for you. Let me get that Kim cow for you. Like she's a very, Sarah: Hmm. Hmm, that's beautiful. that I think it's more subtle now. Like when I first was channeling her, I would sort of like, ⁓ it was very animated, like, ⁓ ha ha ha ha. And I sort of like, ⁓ I guess the reason why you're feeling it more gentle now is because she's more apart, like integrated into me now. Whereas before, I think it was more like, it was Kait Tregenza: Mm. Sarah: she was forward-facing and then we became one and now I channel without channeling like I can channel but not say I'm going into a trance you know. Kait Tregenza: Yes, I understand. Yeah. So how has this helped you to claim your voice in this next evolution of you? Because obviously it's a very confronting to start to access higher wisdom and light language. Confronting can be positive and negative, but it is a very new and quite shift in self, right? And you've been doing this for a long time now. So it's like, you've integrated that integrated this other aspect of you. ⁓ You work together, you're good teammates and you have good collaboration, right? So how has that translated into you owning, claiming and empowering your own voice? Sarah: you Yeah, I like I really like how you said confrontation can be good and bad. I love that because I think that's so true. And how it applies to me, I guess is it changed my entire life. It changed my entire life. I had to confront who I really was. And I couldn't, I don't know, I'm almost getting a little emotional. Like I couldn't hide in the shadows. Like even though one part of me wanted to be seen, another part was always like, no. So it sort of thrust me into the spotlight, especially when I was first channeling. was sort of, I think that was about like 12, 13 years ago. So there weren't too many people here where I am doing this. So I felt at first it was almost like I was a curiosity and a sideshow and sort of like, what the hell is this? know? ⁓ So I had to confront a lot of insecurities. It was very confronting. And I sort of had to get over that hump of judgment and then being forward-facing on Instagram and having... sort of like a viral video with an influencer, all that, you know, that wasn't intentional. It sort of had a life of its own. And then I was sort of like faced, well, what does this mean? And who would, what do I really want? Because I thought I wanted all of this, like, I don't know if I want this. ⁓ I feel that it's changed my life in the way that ⁓ I'm here to be seen. And so when I say that, it's not from the ego, like I'm here to be seen. It's like my light needs to shine so that others can be mirrored back their own light, you know? So my personality and my ego has to sort of like get over certain things. That makes sense, you know? So I think that's a great question and it's an everyday journey too, because who I was when I first started channeling is much different than who I am now. What I want is different. Kait Tregenza: How did you use this channel, this gift that you have to sort of heal from your broken marriage and the challenges that you went through in that? Because what you display in your own self is a woman that's very integrated. And I think sometimes people might not necessarily understand how this work can make sense of things that don't necessarily make sense in a way that therapy or talking it out or even just putting yourself in another person's shoes. Like this is very different to empathy, right? This is a perspective at a much more cosmic, much higher level. And how, how did that help you? I'm so curious. Sarah: How did channeling help me sort out my trauma? mean? Yeah, yeah, and there's trauma. Family trauma, generational trauma. ⁓ I think the root of it is not feeling love or unconditional love. And I think the channeling and all of that was triggering in a way because people didn't understand me. Kait Tregenza: Yes. Sarah: and who is this weirdo and she doesn't fit in. Yeah, and the divorce, yes, that was part of me. And then ending many relationships, you know, is part of me always evolving and outgrowing a lot of partnerships. But it's interesting that you talked about the talk therapy because I'm also a therapist. So I have to wear these sort of dual hats as a therapist, but also this knowing I'm this multi-dimensional being. ⁓ and I guess it helped me through my trauma, ⁓ because I have a higher understanding, a higher perspective. Like this is all happening for me, not to me, you know, and I can see that and I can see I chose this and sort of all of those things that maybe a lot of people don't, aren't able to access and that this is just all part of why I'm here. And the trauma is. you if you want to serve at a high level, right, you need to go through initiations. And boy, have I been initiated. You know, so. Kait Tregenza: us because how else could you lead anyone if you haven't yourself walked through that which you're leading everyone through? You don't come fully healed to this planet to say, just follow me. I don't know what trauma is. I don't know what pain is, so follow me. I can guide you. Sarah: Right. That's, and there's such beauty in the dark. I think that's something a lot of people in the spiritual community talk about to you know, like spiritual bypassing and how we need to really talk about the purpose of darkness and fear and it's all it's all useful. It's all information. And it's all the darkness plays a role in the light. They're all it's all part of the same system. You know, so if I'm ignoring that, right, if I'm ignoring my trauma, How can I help others to find their own light? Exactly. Kait Tregenza: In understanding that something's for you and not done to you mentally, think people can get that. How, how does the channeling or how does the, maybe it's the light language activations that then move that into a groundedness in the body? Because I think there's a difference between understanding something intellectually and it's still not having peace with that. know, you're still Sarah: Yes. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Kait Tregenza: playing, you can still drop into the victim story and then you're in this constant like reminding and then that's work, right? You've got to remind yourself all the time. No, it's for you. It's not too. So how do you cut those loops? Sarah: percent. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I love that. So you're right. So victim consciousness and reverting back to that and, you know, a lot of therapy therapists practice like cognitive behavioral therapy and changing your thoughts and that's right. But light codes, light language, right, that's working on a somatic. level it's bypassing the rational mind and it's sort of going to the ⁓ the stored emotion and the thought forms that have taken shape in you so it's sort of going to the root like sound right high frequency but i think also even though you can listen to light codes and go there, you still need tools because we have a lot of noise around us, right? There's a lot of noise. So you can have an activation, but get to this other, like, do you ever hear that expression, new level, new devil? Like, I don't really like the word devil, but it's like, it's sort of, yeah, you evolve, you get to this new level. Here's another thing for me to see. Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Right. Sarah: So the tools are great. So you kind of need both Yes, the somatic and I think like light language for me. It allows me to access that place to bypass. Like I said, it's like unfurling my mermaid tail, I go back to the source. And but I think most people they're they're flip flopping, right going up and down. And I do too. Right? We going to the third to the fifth dimension, we're still here. So that's why sound can be great because you can listen and go back and ground yourself. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: And so do you listen to your own activations? Do you listen to your own voice? Has that been powerful for you? Sarah: Yeah, yeah, sometimes I do. ⁓ Sometimes it's felt uncomfortable. Sometimes it's been like, wow, it's so beautiful. ⁓ I typically don't, I don't feel like the need to. But I funny enough, I rarely listen to other people speak light language. ⁓ I don't know if I'm just picky or particular. But there are times where I've heard other people speak white language and I'm like, that's what I sound like. And then it feels really good. And it's sort of like I've had experiences with other women where we're talking to each other in light coats and we understand each other. And it's like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And it's just like this back and forth. And that is amazing. Cause that I feel like I'm looking at myself, you know? Kait Tregenza: Yeah, I do know because I speak light language to my daughter and she speaks back to me. She's three. Sarah: Oh, oh, oh my god, that's so beautiful. Kait Tregenza: And then if anyone else hears us, they're like, gosh, you two are weird, just making up funny noises all the time. And I'm like, yeah, we're super weird. Sarah: Yeah, let them think that, whatever. Yeah, that's really beautiful. I know they come in remembering, right? It's amazing. Kait Tregenza: Yeah, and so my job, feel as her guardian, as her guide to this denseness here is just to help her to remain as tebid as possible. Sarah: Yeah, yeah, I know it becomes challenging when they're like when they go through puberty. Kait Tregenza: I've got a little bit of time before puberty still. Sarah: You know, you do treasure it and enjoy it. My daughter's 20, so I've been through that. Kait Tregenza: On days my daughter is 20 as well, so I can understand. Sarah: That's funny. Kait Tregenza: So going back to the voice and the work that you help your clients in terms of the voice being this activation point, this way into not only empowerment, but really the truth of you. I'd love to hear more about that, whether that's part of your journey or just how you work with clients. That's, think the more that we claim our voice and the more that we move our voice into our deeper Sarah: Yes, sure, sure. Yes. Kait Tregenza: parts of body. It's just so transformational and I'd love to hear that from you. Sarah: Yeah. Yes. So your voice, right, is the bridge. your it's your bridge between your heart and, you know, and it carries your unique codes, right, your unique vibration. And it's also the way you express yourself is the way you express your divinity, right, your gift. Kait Tregenza: Mm. Sarah: Your gift of divinity, God, is within you. How you express yourself is how you express God through you. Most people don't think of it that way. But your creative expression is how God expresses whatever, however you want to conceptualize God, gift of divinity, source, oneness. Your voice is the instrument in which you express that. So a lot of people, deny their desires and they cut themselves off from their creative expression, which creates blockages not only in their throat, but in other areas. And this comes through lived experience, childhood trauma, not feeling safe. right, not feeling safe enough to express. So we sort of create these protective identities that prevent us from truly expressing ourselves. And this is through perfectionism, right? I can't say it unless it's perfect. Right? We sort of hide behind these. But if you are called to express yourself, chances are you're a messenger, right? You carry codes, people need to hear that. So you not expressing yourself, you're denying Kait Tregenza: Thanks. Sarah: you know, you're denying your internal expression of God, you're denying that truth within you, sort of that expression should be natural. but it becomes ⁓ repressed. And I sort of help people guide them through that because I myself have been through that. You know, trying to fit in and be palatable and digestible and marketable, you know, all of that. And then losing the natural magnetism that actually draws people to me. You that's what people want. They don't want the edited version of me. They want my unique codes. That's what people want from you. That's what they need from you. So you repress that. You repress your natural flow of currency and abundance, right? Because it's all one. It's all connected. Does that make sense? Kait Tregenza: Mm. so interested how that translates into this culture of hooks and chat-shippy-tea scripts and all of the mechanization and the massaging of going viral or being connected. I think when you're a channeler or when you're you're, you're native spirit, cause we all channel, right? Like when you're just standing and speaking your truth, that's a channel, right? Sarah: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Kait Tregenza: We don't actually exist as linear beings, but we exist in a world that requires linear completion. A story has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Indigenous stories do not have beginning, middle, and end. Old, old pagan wisdom, like women's wisdom, does not have a beginning, middle, and an end. When we speak natively, naturally, when we channel, Sarah: Mm-hmm. Yes, that's right. That's right. Yes. That's right. Kait Tregenza: We give stories that require the listener to take a deeper internal process to understand what does that mean? The answers are not given, but we grow up in Disney, we grow up in Instagram hooks, we now have chatty people telling us what to do. How is a woman supposed to be her authentic voice with all that bombardment? Sarah: Yes. That's right. That's right. Yes. Yes. Yes, I know. I know, right? Kait Tregenza: I'm so interested in how you help people navigate. Sarah: Yes. So I love this topic because this is how I found what I really wanted to do when this when I sort of was facing this dilemma myself, right? Because you're a multi dimensional being right? We're multi dimensional, like you just said, no beginning, no ends. And when you're channeling in the higher realms, you feel that when you're creative and things are flowing through you and then you have to sort of stuff it into this product to sell or this it's like, well, it feels stifling, right? So I, ⁓ in the winter, I joined this program and it was they teach you how to, you you write your book and then you create this funnel marketing funnel and you lead people to but whatever. And I did it because I felt it would be a good structure for my business. But I was having a lot of trouble writing the book because I felt like I was smushing and smashing all of my brilliance, my wisdom forced into this like a little, I call it like I'm trying to siphon a galaxy through a straw. And it felt so stifling and I was trying to get everything into this one book. Kait Tregenza: Yes. Yeah. Sarah: And then I sort of realized, I sort of realized, okay, this book I'm writing here, it's serving a purpose, a very specific purpose and intentional purpose to help women with a specific problem. Not all of my wisdom and knowledge needs to live in this book. I had another book. ⁓ It's a 300 page book of channeled wisdom. I had channeled writings for like 10 years and I saved them. So I was sitting on it for years because I was trying to get it published and an agent that that that that that. And so in the winter I had a friend that was like, why don't you just self publish this book? Because I feel like you're holding, you know, when we have creative projects, they're living extensions of our consciousness. So I guess in a roundabout way, what I'm saying is You need to be intentional about what you're creating that will sort of help you filter through the noise. We do need structure, right? If you want to help someone, your book is a container, your course is a container, right? You need a structure to support that. But if you've yet to embody and fully anchor in what you what you you're going to try to force yourself into a structure before you're ready, and it's going to stifle you. Does that make sense? Kait Tregenza: Yes. Sarah: So I had to release that other book. self-published that 300 page book with all my wisdom and I was like, ⁓ and I let that go. And then a week later, my book, my other book, it took, it was like blocked for two months. It came through in a week and I wrote it. And I was like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, channeled it, done, gone, done. I was no longer forcing because I recognized that structure is useful. Kait Tregenza: you Sarah: but only when you are purposefully using it. it's like you need this like, we are both feminine masculine, right? So I often say a river, if you have no rocks, the water floods, it's everywhere, but too many rocks is dries up. So you need structure, but too much structure, chat, GPT, did it, those are tools, let them be tools, but don't, don't stifle your creative flow. by overusing these tools. know it went on a, but I think that answered the question. Kait Tregenza: I think it's really, I think it's really fascinating, right? So we think so often as these things that we're creating as, ⁓ as just these projects that we're doing. think that's a lot of the time because we've gone into this schooling system where you produce work for the means of a grade or for the means of a test or for the means of, you know, acquire doing what somebody else is asking you to do. Sarah: Yes, yes. Kait Tregenza: when you're a creative and that includes entrepreneurs, writers, whatever it may be. Sarah: Mm-hmm. Kait Tregenza: You create because you are. You cannot not create. You cannot exist without creation. Sarah: That's right. That's right. That's right. Kait Tregenza: I had a friend once who said, he was a visual artist and he did canvases and he just couldn't start. it was very similar to your story and this is why I bring it up. And he was like, the canvas is just too small for all the things that I want to paint. And you're like, you know you can get endless numbers of canvases, right? Like you could just keep going. And it's... It's these really funny things that along the way we pick up and we make meaning into them. We make rules out of that have absolutely nothing to do with the creative creative expression of ourselves. And if you're ever trying to create like another person, you're going to find blockages because that's not your own way. Sarah: That's right. You're trying to stuff yourself into something that doesn't fit like you're this multi dimensional being and you're trying to stuff yourself into this linear course or linear, you know, and I think I know I've made the mistake not really mistake because they learned right, but taking a lot of these like marketing programs and things that sort of that's how they work in that sort of linear way. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Sarah: For people like us, it's like, ⁓ it's challenging, right? Kait Tregenza: Yes. It's like putting the ocean in a teacup and wondering why it won't fit and why. I think my challenge is like, how do I take everything that I have and make it into one sentence that somebody can understand, which is essentially a hook, right? ⁓ so that's like, I can speak for three hours, but if you ask me to speak for 10 seconds, that's where I. Sarah: Right. ⁓ yeah, of course. It's always challenging, right? that you like when I was submitting books to agents, they're like, you should write a one page query letter. And in that one page, you have to explain what the book is, why you're qualified to write it. And you have to have like one or one sentence at the top or two sentences that get them hooked right away. Of course, that's challenging. But you know that also Like you said, it's confronting in a good and bad way because Kait Tregenza: Yes, because it helps you to distill what is the truth of this. Sarah: That's right. If you have a limited amount of words, then you got to get really clear on what you really want to say. So that whole process was very enlightening for me. Because I realized just like your friend. This doesn't have to say everything. I have other work where my brilliance can live. Yeah, this this service. Kait Tregenza: Okay, we can do more. Sarah: And I think also that came like there's a part of me that so wants to be like, I want to like I want all of this to be known. Like I want to help like I want all of it out there, you know. And I'm only you know, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't need to be that way. You know, doesn't need to be from a place of desperation. What's that? Kait Tregenza: It's interesting because you, right. I was going to say it's interesting because you started the concept of how you started in your voice work as not wanting to be seen, not wanting to be, voicing yourself. And now it's like, you've got, I've got, got, I need to do so like listen to everything that I can say. So what do you think that shift from like, don't look at me, don't listen to me. I'm not speaking to you into like. Sarah: Right. Kait Tregenza: Guys, I don't have enough life left to say everything that I need to say. I just need to get it out and out and out. Like that's a huge change. Sarah: Yeah, you're right. I never ⁓ fully appreciated that. ⁓ Thank you for bringing that to my awareness. ⁓ I think a lot of healing and peeling back the layers of why I was not wanting to be seen and what was holding me back. And now I'm ready to go. I'm like, come on, let's go. Let's get the show on the road. ⁓ Kait Tregenza: I appreciate you now. What was it? What was holding you back? Sarah: I think a couple of things. think fear of my own power. and apologizing. Yeah, apologizing, dimming to fit in. what will happen if I'm truly as powerful as I feel I am? It'll change. My life will change. You know, ⁓ I won't be there for my daughter. I won't be there for my mother. What, you know, like, just like, my relationship or land or Kait Tregenza: Yes, huge. Sarah: you know, but I made a reel the other day and I said, you know, the sun doesn't apologize for shining. just shines because it's a sun and that's what it's here to do, you know, so. Kait Tregenza: There are, I have understood there are about, I think there are four levels of fear. And I think the ultimate fear, particularly for women, is not that they're not enough. It is that they are so powerful. Sarah: Yeah. Kait Tregenza: And the voice that you carry and the words that you speak, if they were unfiltered, if they were uncensored, if they were coming from the truest part of you transmitted out, would literally start changing the world. If we all, as women started speaking how we are designed to speak, the Sarah: Right, if we really step into our power. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: That's, think, the greatest fear, not because it's our fear. I think it's because it's been so unsafe to be as powerful as we are. And at the same time, what would your life actually be if you were in the power that you'd be? Sarah: Yes, 100%. Yeah, and I think that's why I feel that I've been integrating for so long because like I had a recent conversation with a friend he's like, Okay, no more integrating you're ready. You're ready. I'm like, Yeah, but who am I to say? So sometimes I have difficulty knowing when it's time to be bold and be like, you know, time to step into this bully versus it's okay, I let go, doesn't, you know, I surrender. You know, I sort of like, I'm still learning myself and does that make sense? Kait Tregenza: It just makes me laugh because my three-year-old, says to me all the time, she's like, mommy, we're just all still learning. And I was like, I didn't teach you that. I didn't teach her that. And it's like, when you spend a lot of time with a little person that's really connected to herself, the messages and the wisdom that comes through, just, it like stops you because it's like a grown woman can say, you know, we're all still learning and you're like, yeah, yeah. Sarah: We know it's okay. Kait Tregenza: But when like a little child gives you like wise beyond her years words, and it just like, cuts you. And so her whole thing is like, mommy, we're all still learning. And I'm like, yeah, we are. Sarah: I know. I know. She's so precious. Yeah, because it's pure, it's innocence, right? And that's why it's so profound when it comes from her, because it's the innocence, right? And we all have that, we all have that innate. And that's our power, isn't it? Our innocence, right? That's our purity, our innocence. But I think also, this is also conversation about Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Sarah: how to wield your power, right? Because I feel that in my own fear of my own power was also witnessing the misuse of power and being like, I don't wanna be like that. I don't wanna, if I am gonna wield power and I'm gonna have power, I wanna be able to hold the vibration. I wanna be able to anchor that and hold that. power in the form of money, influence, whatever you whatever power, but I want to be able to anchor and really truly hold that frequency. And so I think I've, it's it's been the integration has really been about learning how to hold hold that, you know, hold all the things that I've been asking for, you know, don't like to be what do they say like to be the vessel for it, you know? Kait Tregenza: Do you think your voice has a role to play in the holding as well or in just in the receiving and the transmitting? I'm curious. I've never thought about that before, but the way that you're speaking about it, it's like, maybe there is a role that the voice plays in the holding. Sarah: Yeah, I'm not quite sure. think maybe it's the way that it carries, know, the reverberation of sound. You know, you can make a podcast where we could record this and this can go across the world and it can be heard and that can carry and change someone's life. you know, it's... Kait Tregenza: songs, music. Sarah: music, right? It's, it's expansive, and it's more expansive than the linear mind. So I guess the voice is instrumental because there's no barriers, right? There's no limitation. With the voice, there's no limitation. It's only created itself created, but within our mind, within our ego, there's a very specific limitation. You know, Kait Tregenza: Hmm. It's interesting what you're even talking about and tapping into there is it's the recording and the pausing on the voice or these voices as this conversation, as this transmission. It actually helps you to understand the way to collapse time, right? Because if you're listening to this in ten years time or in tomorrow, or as we are right now, you can be you can be able to be transported into this moment, into this container, into this capsule. And I've never really thought of the voice as holding an opportunity for presence like that. Sarah: Yeah, it's a really what's coming to mind as you were talking was, you know, the creation of the universe was with sound, right? The vibration of sound went out, you know, and created the cosmos. ⁓ right, the sound of creation. So it's such a it's a sound is creation. And creation happens multidimensionally. So when we get stuck in those places of like the linear, like how is this gonna, when is this gonna, you know, ⁓ if I use the power of sound and I say, am that I am and it's done, so be it. It is done and it's done and it's done. And that with my intention. is what create is magic, right? That is magic, that is creation. But it's done through the power of my my voice, because my voice is my divinity ⁓ manifested into physical form, right? Kait Tregenza: When you were working on your own voice, did you speak aloud your own healings? And did you use your voice in activating your voice? I'm curious how that process was for you, like the physical process of unfolding your voice and empowering it and letting it unblock. Sarah: Through light language, yeah. Using, yes, through light language. And also, yes, through affirmations too and mirror work and looking at myself and looking in my eyes and really feeling the emotion like I love you. It is done, it's already done. You're seen. Kait Tregenza: spoken aloud. Hmm you. Sarah: But ⁓ you know, and then what comes back at you when you look at yourself and you see yourself say that it's such a powerful, visceral feeling. ⁓ But also there are times when I'm channeling when I'm making these really expansive sounds like, and I feel like ⁓ I have no body. It's like, it's this wild feeling. It's like, ⁓ and then all of a sudden I just feel like this expansive, like there's no. Kait Tregenza: Yeah. Sarah: no physical form. can't explain it. It's just sound. I don't know how to put it into words. Kait Tregenza: And is there every time when you're speaking sound and you feel vibrations in your body, so you're quite aware of your body, like does the opposite also happen? Sarah: Yeah, I think so. I think there's... Yes. Kait Tregenza: I'm asking you these technical questions and you're like, I don't know. I just do it. Sarah: Yeah, but it's good because it helps me go back into the moment to like find. So I when you said that I thought of the times in which I've channeled specific energies that are very emotional, like, ⁓ like this, there's this sort of like ancient grandmother energy that comes through sometimes. And when I've channeled her, it's been very emotional. And I felt that in my body and in my womb space. Kait Tregenza: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sarah: and I felt like an achingness of my... There have been times in channeling session where I felt very connected to like the womb space and it's like, I almost feel like, I know it sounds so weird, but like I want to give birth to something out like in that area where I'm like, like push it. You know, that's been very physical. ⁓ There've been other times where... I guess sort of what we're talking about is different energies. can experience the physicality of that through sounds as well. There's been other times where these energies have come through like, and it's like, you know, like very like strong like that, you know, I'm like, ⁓ that's like, feel it like this, you know. So yeah. Kait Tregenza: I love that. And so I'd love to just ask one more question and we've agreed that we might do a small channeling and an activation on opening up women's voices, people's voices. I suppose my last question before we move into that is more of a very practical one. ⁓ Just because at the end of that, I'm not sure how you're going to be. So I wanted to ask you the practical question before we went in. Sarah: Thanks. Okay. Kait Tregenza: which is, you know, say a woman comes to you to work on her desires and living a life that is very far away from her current reality. Would the native natural starting point be to look into her voice and what she's not, because you said very early on, our desires are lived through our activated voice. And so I'm just curious, like, what would be your process? What would be the way you would approach that with her? Sarah: through the body, right? So the body is going to tell her where that lives within her, right? That's why I call what I do like somatic channeling. So we're gonna, we're gonna get into the body and see where are you holding back? Where does that gap live within you? And what are the emotions there? And what's the story there? And sort of pull that out of you so that you're and that can that's a really emotional experience. So there's a version of me that I know that exists and I'm not stepping into. It's because something else is taking space inside of me. So what is that? Where is that? Let's locate it. Let's feel Kait Tregenza: Mm. Sarah: it, heal it, release it, let it go. There might be a lot of layers to that. It might not be an instant thing. But that's the first part of it. Where does this live inside of you? Where's the gap? Where's the separation? You know, where's it? Where's it taking space in you? Is it in your throat? Or is it somewhere else? Yeah. Kait Tregenza: And do you think a woman can live a desired life without her voice turned on? Sarah: Hmm. That's such a powerful question. No, I don't think so. I really don't think so. I and I as you said that too. I had this like, I feel not to go on a site, but like there's also an agenda to suppress women's voices. Why? know, why? Because there's so much power in that. So, you know, Like think about the priestesses who had all the wisdom, right? And then they silenced their voices because they were afraid that the wisdom was gonna be used for a negative agenda. So there's so many women who carry that memory, that trauma. that's why we're not empowered. But if you never turn that on, can you truly be in your power? That's a great question. don't know, I don't think so. Kait Tregenza: So, well, let's do that collective healing now. Let's ask for that shift, for that empowerment to live a desire-filled life with a voice fully open and free to speak uncensored and unfiltered. Sarah: Hmm. See ya. I love that intention. ⁓ le'yir yala'a su'yir. So I... So I Jai ya, jai ya, mmmm, jai ya. Jaya ⁓ Ma, Jaya Ma, Jaya Ma, Jaya Ma, Jaya Ma, Ma, They eat her. Kait Tregenza: Hmm. Sarah: How do you feel? Kait Tregenza: It's lovely. For me it was a very, it was a very constant moving kind of a process. ⁓ Is there anything you would like to say to explain anything or feel like needs to be said for the listeners? Sarah: Mmm. You know, there's no separation. There's no more room. You know, there's no more room to keep yourself separate from what you want. there's... And really, you know, fill yourself with so much love that that love sort of pushes out anything that's separating you from it. So it's an internal process. So... you know, like it's fill yourself up, fill yourself up, don't let others fill you up. Don't, don't let distraction be intentional how you fill yourself up, because that is your sort of superpower to be intentional to fill yourself up deliberately. So you so you sort of stand tall taller, and sort of have the ability to be so expansive that nothing that is not in alignment can take over space inside of you. You know, and I just felt a remembering in that. And then just a celebration of the divinity of femininity, know, Jaya Ma and just reclamation of the feminine energy, you know, and a reclamation of the divine feminine voice, you know, Kait Tregenza: part of why I'm doing this podcast. is two. have a platform that requires no one pay anything, nobody have a challenge to access this. And to actually not just have my voice be heard and amplified, but that of so many other women that come, you know, across my field and across my awareness. And part of the... The codes that I carry in this lifetime is not only to transmit and to explain and to articulate and to name because I have. these translation skills that are very well activated, both in Earth languages and otherwise, but also in body language. Like I can name emotions very precisely and articulately that others might not know how to name. And it's extraordinary how much I've only been recording since January, it's now May, whenever you're listening to this, we're in May. ⁓ And it started off really slowly, like, ⁓ I'm just going to sit in front of like, won't do video or just do audio. I'm like speaking from up here and like, ⁓ my God, I just got to get it out. And as each week comes, first of all, it's very similar to you. like, I just, I want to, I want to do more and more and more and more. And I got to get it out there and I got to do this and I got to do this. and instead of. being in a process of like, I've got to do this myself. Like this a-hole has just done this to me or that to me. you know, I've been trained so deeply in how to see the energetics at this cosmic level to come down to whether it's what people would call the Akashic records or whether it's what people would call, you know, channeling or whatever, it doesn't matter like this. And make these transmissions. shared that the skills that I have and that I've lived my life with can now be shared that can now be spoken out loud. ⁓ But what's interesting is that it's always been easier for me to anchor these energies when I have like a support person in the room physically or non-physically. And so what I started to do was say, so I am going to speak to the people who will listen to this. Sarah: Yeah. Kait Tregenza: and sit them in the room with me. And this collapsing of the time into this present moment of we're all in this event, in this stadium, in this room, whatever you want to say. And that has given my voice so much extra support, grounding and capacity to be like, you are actually being listened to. This is not a futile waste of time. Sarah: Yes, yes, they're being heard, yes. Yeah. Kait Tregenza: being heard. And what I started to unravel in this process was so much of our voice gets silenced by ourselves because nobody's listening. You can't understand. You're not listening. Or I speak, you twist it around and that's not what I said. And so I'm going to stop talk. Sarah: Hmm. Hmm. Right, I'm in evaluation. Kait Tregenza: And I think when we are working in this putting the ocean into a teacup kind of a scenario and you're trying to talk to somebody who's on a linear wavelength, who's on a, I just exist in the teacup. You will never be hurt. And so I started saying, well, bring me the people who can hear me. Let me talk to the people who can hear me. Sarah: Yes. Kait Tregenza: And that more than anything else helps me feel free from the plight of being constantly misunderstood, misinterpreted, misquoted, misheard, whatever. And I think that that along with the exposure and the limit, like letting go of the exposure and the hatred and the vilification and all of that was really... Sarah: No. Kait Tregenza: But I think the reason that I'm saying this and the reason I'm telling this story is it didn't happen first and then I did the podcast. It happened as the process unfolded. was this knowing that my voice is my instrument of transmission. is the codes in which I transmit through my voice. I'm not a musician. I'm not a... Sarah: Right. That's right. Yes. Kait Tregenza: and honest, I'm a speaker. Sarah: That's fair. Same for me, yes. Kait Tregenza: And so you have to speak. Sarah: Right, right, because that's... Kait Tregenza: Because you spoke about perfectionism earlier and that's really the key point that I'm trying to make here. Go ahead. Sarah: right, the perfection that needs to be perfect, and then I'll be heard, then I'll be seen. But it's no, it needs to be you. And that's because that's what gets you that's what people they need those codes, they need your voice is your currency, right? Like, that's your magic. That's your that's what I called my book, because it's true. That's your people need that. And so, you know, for me, so many people were like, your voice is so healing. It's so this, it's so that. And I'm like, so why am I trying to do all these other things? Why am I not focusing on my voice? That's my gift, you know? ⁓ And it was always so natural to me, but it, you know. Kait Tregenza: Yes. I think that is one of the most important things that you just said. We have been trained that work needs to be hard, that success needs to be hard. And for me, was like, but I'm just speaking and I don't even have to, like, I also wrote a book last year by just sitting one hour per day and channeling it out. And it was the easiest thing that I ever did. And Sarah: ⁓ yeah. Should be easy, right? Kait Tregenza: And I couldn't accept it for such a long time. Sarah: No, I hear you sister. It's the same place. Yeah. Overcomplicating. Right. Kait Tregenza: This was too easy. This was too easy. What am I supposed to do with it? It can't be good, right? Like it just happened so easily. Yeah. Yeah. Sarah: Yeah, we overcomplicate things. And I think it's also there's like a fear there, right from releasing something like there must be more right, it should be harder, right? Can't be this easy. So let me create this obstacle. Kait Tregenza: Mm. ⁓ It's still landing that transmission. I can still feel it moving all through. I can see, I want to like look different. I want to see. I always look in my eyes and I'm like, Ooh, they're brighter. Sarah: Mm-mm. You're like, beautiful. I like it's getting so like I didn't put a light on here and I'm like in the darkness now. Kait Tregenza: And I have come into the light with your light language transmission. Well, it has been an absolute pleasure. Sorry. Sarah: No. I'm in the void, I'm in the mother. I said I'm in the void, I'm in the mother, the void of creation. Kait Tregenza: No! It's been an absolute pleasure and delight to talk to you, to get into what is just this scratching of the surface of the wisdom that you carry and that you hold. 100 % your voice is your currency. It is so beautiful. I love its texture and its cadence and the way that you articulate and, and it's just magic to listen to you. And I know that Sarah: ⁓ thank you. Kait Tregenza: And this will be a very powerful episode for anybody listening. But if they want to go deeper with you and open up the Pandora's box, so to speak, where can people connect with you? Sarah: you Yeah, you can connect to ways you can buy my book. And you can do that. Your voice is your currency book.com I think, or you can just go to my website, Sarah dash ash arose. And you can check out. Yeah, I have both my books there. I have my YouTube channel there. I had a podcast for a little bit. Some episodes are up there. Kait Tregenza: Great idea. Buy her book. Sarah: I have a free like code activation. All my socials are there. A little bit about me. So you can go there too if you want. I do a free call as well. That call is there. So yeah, that can be like a good place to kind of feel into me and see what I'm about. Kait Tregenza: Beautiful. Thank you so much. It's such a pleasure to have such a kindred, beautiful, light-worker, galactic worker here. I am so grateful for the work that you show up to do each and every day. The world is so much better for having you in it. And I cannot wait to have an opportunity to replay that little ⁓ activation that we did. Sarah: ⁓ thank you. Thank you. ⁓ yes, yes. Thank you. I'm so grateful that you found me. Thank you for calling out into the universe. I'm glad that I heard you. Kait Tregenza: I'm very good at listening to calls as it turns out. Brilliant, speak too soon. Sarah: Yes. Bye. Thank you.