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[DELETED ON YOUTUBE] Inside the Life of Lizzy and Ira Savetsky · Call Her Tatty

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  Dr. Ira and Lizzie Syvetski, today we're going to take a little bit of a different direction.
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  Accessories expert.
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  I'm still scared of you.
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  They're really, say, not political.
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  So you operate it on Lizzie?
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  Yeah.
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  You had zero qualms about taking a knife to your wife's flesh.
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  Nobody should ever put filler in their butt.
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  Just put cuggle in your mouth and it goes straight to your butt's people.
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  The dick mommy makes it.
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  Yeah, Williamsburg Barrel Park.
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  They want to look hot.
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  Are you a lot of talk about the real, how do you get out of the airco chamber?
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  Exactly.
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  What a rough ocean.
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  How could you guys do this to me?
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  My whole mission is to fight anti-symmetism.
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  Once I started being on apologetically myself, I was getting way more opportunities.
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  You ready to make history today, Lizzie?
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  Hi, Shephalas.
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  Hi, Shephalas.
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  Today I have two amazing guests on Color Taty.
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  One is a plastic surgeon.
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  The other, well, you've seen her everywhere on social.
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  So she'll do the talking on where you saw her last.
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  Please welcome Dr. Ira and Lizzie Syvetski.
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  Hi, guys. Thanks for having me.
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  Oh, one second.
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  I forgot my house.
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  I'm sorry.
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  I'm just a supporting character on this one.
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  Hope you guys enjoy the episode.
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  Clips are going to be fire.
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  Let's go.
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  Welcome, Dr. Ira and Lizzie.
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  Hi, thanks for having us.
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  Thank you.
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  Hope are you both.
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  Great.
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  You're doing great.
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  Very happy to be here.
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  Welcome to Miami.
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  Thank you.
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  What brought you down to Miami?
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  Because I know you're both in New York now.
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  You know, we enjoy just escaping for a short period of time, get some nicer weather.
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  Contrary to what some people may think it's not the recent mayoral election of New York.
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  That brought us here.
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  We're just here for Thanksgiving vacation.
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  Oh, there's a lot of activity now because of it.
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  She's busy.
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  I'm very busy because of this election.
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  I'm sure you're busy.
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  The best real estate agent in Miami, they say.
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  They're trying Donnie.
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  Yeah, they're trying.
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  You have some competition.
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  I do.
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  All right, Lizzie.
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  So on social, you're very political.
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  And today we're going to take a little bit of a different direction.
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  I want to take you and everybody here all the way back to when you were accessories expert.
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  Oh, so we're going to take it.
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  Does anyone even remember that era?
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  Of course.
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  Are you kidding?
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  They remember like her old Instagram name.
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  What was it?
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  Chicken soup chick.
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  Did you make chicken soup?
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  Yes.
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  That was her thing.
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  But she had like a ton of followers and like deactivated.
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  Why did girls do that?
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  Why did they like shut down?
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  They want a new persona.
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  I lost my account.
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  Oh, you did?
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  Yeah, because I forgot my password.
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  And I tried to log in.
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  And then it would contact someone from Instagram.
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  And they're like, oh, you've like tried too many times and whatever.
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  And then they're like, if you don't figure out your password by like a certain time,
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  we're just shutting it down.
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  And it had not a ton of followers.
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  But more than now, that is like my greatest fear and biggest fantasy.
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  If like I got locked out of my Instagram account, like, what would I do with my life?
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  I don't know.
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  You start painting.
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  Meta verified.
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  Maybe.
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  If you were, if you, like, just pro tip, like if you use Instagram at all for your business,
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  pay the 12 bucks for Meta verified because it's not for the blue check.
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  It's for when shit goes bad.
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  Oh.
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  You can DM them.
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  That's why you work for Meta verified.
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  We both got verified before it was a thing.
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  Pay for it anyways.
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  Oh, you still have to pay for it?
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  It's extra support.
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  I don't know if you get it from a regular blue check.
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  You might get it on your own.
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  I don't know.
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  We have to check that out.
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  So accessories expert.
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  Yes.
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  So, Zoli and I were actually going way back last night on your Instagram account.
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  We did a deep dive.
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  I swear to God for 12 minutes.
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  She's like, no, you got to go to the first post.
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  No, actually, you have to go to, she has another accounts.
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  No, no.
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  That was my personal account that I just renamed accessories expert so I could just keep the handle.
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  Okay.
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  I see.
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  I see.
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  Oh, God.
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  Do you remember the first post you posted as accessories expert?
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  I don't know.
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  I have no idea.
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  And I probably posted at the same picture five times with different filters.
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  Valencia, Amaro.
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  What was with that filter?
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  Everyone used that.
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  Okay.
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  So this is a screenshot.
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  Oh, my God.
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  I'm scared.
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  The first few photos you did on your grid.
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  I'm like, this was such a time in 2013.
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  Like you just had 2013.
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  12 years ago.
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  I'm just going to share it with you.
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  Okay, I'm scared.
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  Okay.
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  Oh, oh.
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  Yes.
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  I was very professional.
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  Look at all these professional shots.
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  This is a time.
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  Oh, wow.
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  Before I had a masseter Botox and lip filler.
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  Wow.
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  Those are, yeah, I remember I was like, I'm so professional.
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  These are my fashion week photos that professional photographers took.
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  But that's one Instagram was like highly curated photos.
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  And that's like, it was like fantasy land.
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  But like, it's so funny that we all use the same filter.
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  And like, the coloring was just like such a certain way.
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  Yellow, tendency.
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  But we would never do this now.
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  Never.
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  It's crazy.
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  Wait, that is so.
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  But I'm wearing the same color, by the way.
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  So I guess there is a thread.
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  Oh, yes.
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  Look at that.
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  I know statement.
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  Remember the statement.
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  Oh, my God.
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  I never did it.
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  I never did it.
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  I worked for Ericsson Beeman.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Right.
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  And I gave birth in that crown.
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  You gave birth in a crystal crown?
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  Yeah, I worked for Ericsson Beeman as a very, very over-the-top costume jewelry brand.
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  Was that like a sponsored thing?
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  No, no, like.
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  Instagram wasn't my job.
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  Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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  Your first sponsored post was free.
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  Yeah.
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  You didn't even charge us again.
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  That's crazy.
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  Do you have followers?
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  No, here's the thing.
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  I was working for a fashion PR company called Seventh House PR.
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  And the mother of the head of the PR company is Karen Ericsson, Ericsson Beeman jewelry.
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  They're going to love this, by the way, if we, you know, they're going to pay up.
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  Anyway, no, so I worked for them for years before I had Instagram even existed.
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  And they had me start their Instagram account.
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  And so all these pictures I was taking, I was really taking for them, not for myself.
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  And then I started accessories, experts.
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  I was repurposing all these pictures.
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  But it was a great situation because I could go and take whatever jewelry I wanted.
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  And so it was, they told me to give birth in this crown.
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  They were like, you're a queen, give birth in the crown.
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  So I did.
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  And then I became a thing.
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  Oh, you mean a thing?
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  You don't give birth in crowns?
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  Yeah.
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  Other people started giving birth in crowns.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, she and she totally committed your, yeah.
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  That she wear a crown also.
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  Did she?
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  Probably the range towards that.
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  Yeah.
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  Mine was costume.
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  When did you realize people were starting to follow you?
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  Um, it was weird because I didn't, I never thought about.
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  I guess I, okay, I've always kind of lived out loud.
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  I had a blog in 2009 when we were living in Israel called lizard L.
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  And I had.
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  You didn't find that.
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  I did not.
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  Yeah.
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  No, we didn't know about that.
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  I got to turn on the deep research for that.
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  And I knew that people like that I enjoyed storytelling.
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  And that people liked the way that I overshared.
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  And you know, I knew that I had at.
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  I don't know, maybe a knack for it or just.
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  Yeah.
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  And it, maybe I'm an attention whore.
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  I don't know.
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  So I, yeah, you're comfortable with it.
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  Yeah, very comfortable.
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  Like you can talk to a million people like 95% of people are not comfortable talking to a camera.
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  Totally.
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  It's like a hundred percent.
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  They can't do it.
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  They can't.
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  It's just an unfathomable skill to them.
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  Yes.
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  So you found a skill you have.
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  Yeah.
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  So it just came naturally.
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  That's true.
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  Yeah.
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  And I think what happened was it was pretty early in the, in the game, 2013.
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  Yeah.
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  And I was writing a accessories column for FABOLOGY.
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  Do you remember FABOLOGY?
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  I remember FABOLOGY.
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  And so all the Jews that were already following FABOLOGY started following me, accessories,
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  you know, the Akzberg and I, yeah,
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  and it was pretty.
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  My core base was like Orthodox Jews.
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  And I knew that.
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  And so and their great audience to have, I mean, great and also complicated.
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  But very loyal and very judgmental.
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  But yes, you know how did that happen?
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  Because, you didn't really, did you grew up very Orthodox?
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  No, but I became friends with Adi Heyman,
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  Heyman, who had this website cobbology.
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  It was a blog, a blog, but very professionally done.
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  And she asked me if I would write in accessories
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  column for her, because I was always decked out
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  in my accessories from my job.
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  And that's sort of how it started.
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  And then I just wanted my own page.
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  And I had followers.
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  And I never, in a million years, thought
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  I would be talking about anything real.
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  It was just like fun.
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  Yeah.
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  I never thought I'd make money.
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  I know sponsor posts weren't a thing.
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  And I remember blogs, the way that sponsored post work
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  is when people had blogs like Manrafeller, Leandra,
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  they would have like an ad banner.
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  It wasn't like you organically wearing something
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  that the brand paid you.
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  That didn't exist yet.
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  But what's interesting, when you started your Instagram,
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  she felt like she was late to the game.
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  And that's like a really good teaching
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  point for people that really feel like, OK, like a podcast.
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  Like, oh my god, there's so many podcasts.
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  But the reality is, if you're good at what you do,
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  no matter when you do it, and you're going to be successful.
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  And I feel like, I remember you're like, oh my god,
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  but this person already has a million followers.
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  But if you have an act for it, you're just going to do it.
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  I remember it took me two years to get to 10,000 followers.
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  And I remember the day that I got 10,000.
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  It was such a big deal to me.
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  I remember we celebrated.
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  It was so hard to build an organic following.
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  Nobody was buying followers and exist.
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  And I personally am not into that whole thing,
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  but teach their own.
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  And just like every follower took so much time and energy
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  to get.
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  How do you differentiate between yourself
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  as a blogger back then, and now as an influencer?
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  The terms change.
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  Yeah, the terms change.
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  The terms change.
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  But what's the difference?
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  Now she's a creator.
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  But you were also creating when you were blogging.
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  Yeah, I think you actually were writing.
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  Oh, right.
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  You were actually writing.
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  All these girls called them so bloggers,
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  but they just posted pictures and stuff.
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  Right.
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  Yeah, I mean, I don't think that I've changed at all.
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  I mean, the content and the way that I presented
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  this change, because I used to be so much more careful
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  about how I curated it in the professional pictures
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  that you saw at the beginning.
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  But now I just kind of throw up a video, you know,
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  like, I could have, if I want to make a video about a subject,
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  I could have it up within 15 minutes, you know.
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  But it's, I've just done less, you know,
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  less polished, less curated, less just more raw.
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  And I feel like that's kind of the...
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  Yeah, I think that's what the algorithm favors.
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  They don't like, like, look at TikTok.
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  That's all it is.
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  It's just raw.
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  Yeah, but I feel like I haven't changed.
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  Do you think that there was like a big difference?
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  And obviously there's a difference in how you
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  present your content instead of writing something,
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  you're speaking it, you're showing it, you're wearing it.
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  It's like a different approach to blogging.
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  Yes.
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  Do you feel like other bloggers, maybe that were in your space
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  when you were a blogger, have shifted similarly
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  to how you shifted?
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  I think it was hard for some people,
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  because like you were just saying,
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  like, not everyone can just chat to the camera and actually,
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  I mean, it's hard for a lot of people
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  to make that pivot, you know, from word pros to video.
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  Yeah, I think a lot of really brilliant,
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  witty writers are not so great on camera.
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  I've always just been very comfortable being myself,
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  so I think when Instagram stories happen, for example,
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  that was huge for me, because I have a personality,
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  you know, and I'm comfortable talking on camera,
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  and I feel like it actually just made the brand
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  so much more explosive, you know?
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  Yeah, there was like a hot minute
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  where we, like, you're on Snapchat.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Because there was no Instagram stories.
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  And then once Instagram stories came out,
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  Snapchat was done for you.
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  Yeah, right.
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  Snapchat wasn't the original Instagram story,
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  they just copied it.
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  Correct.
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  Total.
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  Yeah, I was on Snapchat a lot.
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  I only had one thing ever go viral on Snapchat,
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  but that was only because I put it on Facebook.
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  Interesting.
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  So the NYPD playing Pokemon Go, remember?
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  And I put it on Snapchat and I put it on my Facebook,
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  and then the news report, it was like,
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  and the NYPD commissioner was like asking,
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  and getting questions about it.
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  I was like my first, like, Zoli,
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  stop recording people.
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  No, but it's brilliant.
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  I know.
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  That was like, that was way before the show
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  for immediate days.
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  Yeah, but you see you had it.
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  You knew.
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  It kept that kept happening.
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  Virality is a drug.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  I heard just last night it was trying to recreate
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  a viral video that he had made last Christmas break
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  when he was wearing taxes.
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  He was like, I got 17 million views on this video.
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  I want to recreate it.
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  We're going to do that.
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  I'm like, lightning doesn't strike twice.
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  Well, yeah.
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  Just post it again.
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  Post it in the same video.
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  Maybe I'll do it.
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  Maybe I'll do it around Christmas.
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  Just post it again.
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  Actually, like, first of all, trial reels are huge.
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  Yeah, so definitely post on trial reels.
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  But like, here's the social media.
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  Nobody remembers.
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  I mean, maybe they remember you.
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  It's like, very short.
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  Nobody remembers what you posted a month ago.
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  No.
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  But I can't do that because all my content
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  is breaking news.
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  You can.
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  OK, I'm going to try it.
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  I'm going to take your advice.
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  Let's go.
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  Let's go.
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  Also, you're all your plastic surgery stuff.
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  That's the best ever.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, after you can post that on trial reels.
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  Trial reels don't go to your followers.
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  So even if your followers saw it, they
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  won't see that video.
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  OK.
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  Yeah, it's good.
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  You're going to send me the ring out on this.
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  I'm going to try it.
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  It's OK.
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  When did you realize you have hit that influencer status?
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  I don't.
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  I mean, I don't know if I ever really considered myself to be.
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  I always felt like an imposter as a fashion blogger.
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  OK.
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  I felt like I was always thinking it.
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  And it wasn't really until I started
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  talking about real things.
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  It was when I shared in, I guess it was 2018, 2019,
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  about my pregnancy losses.
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  And I started talking about that on Instagram Stories.
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  And nobody was really talking about it yet.
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  It became a thing now where people are very vulnerable.
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  And they cry on camera.
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  But it wasn't a thing then.
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  And I saw how many people were really touched by it
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  or uncomfortable by that level of vulnerability
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  in emotion.
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  And just how it really made an impact.
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  It made a splash.
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  And that's when I was like, oh, maybe I
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  bring something different to the table
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  and started kind of moving more in an advocacy direction,
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  which is always a huge part of me.
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  But I just wasn't bringing it to the Instagram platform.
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  And so I think it was then that I
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  realized that I had actual influence on people.
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  Because it's funny.
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  It's funny you say that because a lot of times
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  this imposter syndrome will also hit me.
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  Actually, it's like I have my wife to give me
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  that imposter syndrome all the time.
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  But a lot of times you have this.
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  Does anyone really care that I'm listening to this?
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  Does it really matter?
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  And then hit that 1DM from that 1 person.
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  And they're like, you have no idea
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  when I was going through it this time.
• 17:31
  And you said this thing.
• 17:32
  And I heard it and changed my whole life.
• 17:34
  And you have no idea.
• 17:37
  So like, OK, you're annoyed that the guy posts so much.
• 17:39
  So I like to the next video.
• 17:41
  Like if that doubted your head, it's almost
• 17:45
  you have no idea how much good you can
• 17:47
  cause just by sharing.
• 17:48
  And also just doing something completely different
• 17:51
  from your normal regularly scheduled programming
• 17:55
  is a risk, you know?
• 17:56
  But I felt so cool to do it to the point
• 17:58
  where I didn't even ask Ira.
• 18:00
  You were in the OR.
• 18:02
  And I made this video talking about how I had just
• 18:06
  had this ectopic pregnancy.
• 18:09
  And Ira came out of the OR and had hundreds of messages.
• 18:12
  Yeah, including my parents and my family
• 18:15
  because I didn't notify them of this.
• 18:18
  They're like, wait, Lizzie was broken on Instagram
• 18:20
  before the family chat.
• 18:22
  Yeah.
• 18:23
  Oh, wow.
• 18:25
  Lizzie, that's a little different.
• 18:26
  All right, let's.
• 18:27
  OK, that's a little.
• 18:29
  Trance Grancy.
• 18:30
  Well, listen, hey, look what it kicked off.
• 18:32
  You know what?
• 18:32
  It actually saves me a lot of time because.
• 18:35
  He doesn't have to go tell everyone.
• 18:37
  Yeah, like, you know, she's an open buck, you know,
• 18:40
  what she shares with everyone, you know,
• 18:42
  my family gets us to get the same breaking news.
• 18:45
  You know what?
• 18:46
  I think that's actually very smart
• 18:47
  because then everyone knows the same time.
• 18:49
  GSA.
• 18:50
  By the way, that's literally what I did when I got divorced.
• 18:53
  You brought it.
• 18:54
  I swear to God.
• 18:54
  I didn't know that.
• 18:55
  Oh, swear to God.
• 18:56
  It's so much easier than having a million conversations.
• 18:58
  What did you say?
• 18:59
  First of all, I cleared it with my ex.
• 19:00
  I cleared it with my ex.
• 19:01
  No, no, it was a birthday post because it was like
• 19:03
  right after.
• 19:04
  You know, it was like a month or two after he gave the get.
• 19:08
  People didn't know that he was divorced.
• 19:09
  But like, nobody knew.
• 19:10
  It was like just my family.
• 19:11
  Like, I'm on the mind.
• 19:12
  I'm like, I didn't.
• 19:13
  And we were like, we started dating two years later.
• 19:15
  Wait, you broke your divorce on Instagram?
• 19:17
  Just, well, I said it in a post.
• 19:20
  You had to read the caption.
• 19:21
  It was like buried in like a few lines.
• 19:22
  But like, it was there.
• 19:23
  Like, it's an unpublic.
• 19:25
  And, but that was the picture that she DMed me about.
• 19:28
  And we started dating.
• 19:30
  And we started dating.
• 19:31
  Literally.
• 19:32
  I thought, oh, I, I friended him on Facebook.
• 19:34
  I liked the post.
• 19:36
  I friended him on Facebook.
• 19:37
  And I'm like, fresh meat on the market.
• 19:39
  Let's go, baby.
• 19:40
  Off-market.
• 19:41
  You got to.
• 19:42
  Off-market deal.
• 19:43
  I was already, did you care that he had kids?
• 19:46
  It was definitely something that I had to consider.
• 19:49
  I did date other men with children.
• 19:52
  But what was interesting for me is it was harder for me
• 19:55
  to date guys with younger kids than with older kids.
• 20:00
  But it was definitely something I had to think about a lot.
• 20:04
  Like, look at this plumb.
• 20:06
  Yeah.
• 20:06
  So, clearly, I did something really worth it.
• 20:10
  But you see that's the thing.
• 20:11
  You put it out there.
• 20:13
  And if you had not, you never would have.
• 20:14
  You wouldn't be married.
• 20:15
  And by the way, but the really the biggest part about it,
• 20:17
  and this is really the reason I did it,
• 20:19
  I wanted to control the narrative.
• 20:21
  If you let other people tell your story,
• 20:23
  they're going to write whatever she really wants about you.
• 20:25
  Sure.
• 20:26
  If you put it out, it's like, we got the voice.
• 20:27
  All is good.
• 20:28
  This is what happened.
• 20:29
  Everyone's happy.
• 20:31
  Everyone, like, do you know what any stupid people came up to me?
• 20:34
  And like, literally the first thing I said was, who cheated?
• 20:36
  Like, are you kidding me?
• 20:38
  That's how it was for me with the housewife situation,
• 20:41
  with Roni, because I wasn't allowed to talk about it.
• 20:44
  And so for so long, everyone was just making up
• 20:46
  their own versions of the narrative
• 20:48
  and it drove me nuts, because I'm somebody,
• 20:50
  like, I want to control my story and also the truth.
• 20:55
  And having everyone else write it for you,
• 20:56
  it was exhausting.
• 20:58
  And it was all anyone wanted to talk to me about.
• 21:00
  And because it took, it takes on the life of its own
• 21:03
  when it's a rumor and you can't tell your side.
• 21:06
  I feel like people just always want like a juicy story.
• 21:10
  And like, even with my divorce, like, what was the problem?
• 21:14
  Like, why does everything need to have like a problem?
• 21:17
  Had it reconciled the differences?
• 21:19
  Literally.
• 21:19
  Also, like, when you get married at 19,
• 21:22
  you don't really want the same things,
• 21:24
  at least for myself, when you're made to it.
• 21:26
  I would totally do something totally different.
• 21:29
  What do you mean?
• 21:30
  If I had to do it again, no, I'm joking.
• 21:31
  Where are you?
• 21:34
  I always tell her younger and dumber,
• 21:36
  and she always tells me older and richer.
• 21:38
  OK.
• 21:38
  I like the older rich apart.
• 21:39
  They get the same thing for it, it's all good.
• 21:42
  Well, because they're not going to have the young boy
• 21:43
  friends on this side.
• 21:44
  Are you a lot of talk about the real housewife situation
• 21:47
  or are you still under Indian?
• 21:48
  Yeah, I can tell you.
• 21:48
  She's spoken about it.
• 21:49
  She just gave up.
• 21:50
  She was like, I'm not going to be quiet anymore.
• 21:52
  Well, Lizzy and Ira, I want to talk about you both
• 21:55
  as a couple.
• 21:57
  And how did you guys meet?
• 21:59
  We met organically through a mutual friend.
• 22:03
  One of my best friends from growing up
• 22:04
  was her counselor on birthright.
• 22:06
  And she went on birthright when she was 18.
• 22:09
  And she was moving to New York.
• 22:11
  Summer between high school and college.
• 22:13
  Yeah.
• 22:14
  So we met in New York.
• 22:16
  In my dorm room at NYU, the first thing
• 22:19
  that I ever said to Ira was I had a digital camera, which
• 22:23
  now has made it come back, by the way, the digital camera.
• 22:26
  And I threw it at him.
• 22:27
  And I'm like, I don't know you.
• 22:28
  Can you take a picture of me and my friends?
• 22:29
  Oh, classic.
• 22:32
  That was the first thing I ever said to him.
• 22:34
  It's so cute.
• 22:35
  And now he's taken thousands and thousands of pictures.
• 22:38
  I feel so mad for you, by the way.
• 22:40
  You are probably the most tortured Instagram husband
• 22:43
  on the planet.
• 22:44
  You know, tell us about it, Ira.
• 22:46
  The latest iPhones really are really helpful.
• 22:49
  And I feel like the newest technology
• 22:52
  has really helped my life.
• 22:53
  Because it takes a good photo.
• 22:55
  It takes a good video.
• 22:56
  It's really not hard.
• 22:57
  It's just kind of pointing to how many pictures it doesn't
• 22:59
  take, usually, for one on the gram.
• 23:01
  How many videos?
• 23:03
  Oh, pretty fast.
• 23:04
  These days, I feel like it's pretty good.
• 23:05
  It knows how I like it.
• 23:06
  No, the angles, you know, the poses.
• 23:08
  I know the lighting.
• 23:09
  I know so much about photography now.
• 23:11
  It's pretty incredible.
• 23:12
  Actually, what I take all my own photos
• 23:14
  in plastic surgery, like before and after.
• 23:16
  Yeah, he does every.
• 23:16
  I have like a little tiny studio.
• 23:18
  It's a course, like Instagram husband course.
• 23:20
  Yeah, by the way, can I just take this moment
• 23:23
  to clear something up?
• 23:25
  He is the one that has pushed me to do everything.
• 23:28
  He pushed me to start an Instagram.
• 23:30
  He pushed me to quit my job and take my Instagram full time.
• 23:33
  He pushed me to become a full time activist.
• 23:37
  He's now trying to push me to run for mayor in 2021.
• 23:40
  I can't tell if this is one driving this ship.
• 23:44
  OK, I don't know, is this resentment
• 23:46
  or is this a compliment?
• 23:47
  I'm not sure.
• 23:48
  And aren't you thankful for it?
• 23:49
  No, no, I am, but I think everyone thinks
• 23:52
  that they're like, God, like we did the stupid viral trend
• 23:56
  with the, I wake up in the morning, and I step out.
• 23:59
  And I was like, God, your husband's such a good sport.
• 24:01
  I'm like, bro, this was his IPM.
• 24:04
  He was like, we should do that video.
• 24:07
  And then he made us do like 12 takes.
• 24:09
  Oh, my God.
• 24:10
  So I think people, there's a misconception
• 24:12
  that I push him into this.
• 24:14
  He's pushed me.
• 24:15
  Well, it's the same thing with her.
• 24:17
  I push her into this.
• 24:18
  This whole thing I'm pushing.
• 24:20
  I'm like the total opposite.
• 24:22
  Like, I don't want him to take photos of me.
• 24:25
  I don't like the candid videos.
• 24:28
  But you're so cute.
• 24:29
  But I don't like you.
• 24:30
  I love it.
• 24:31
  No, so I think at the beginning,
• 24:32
  I think she would push me into things
• 24:35
  that I was uncomfortable with, like videos and things like that.
• 24:37
  But then she kind of like, now it's come full circle.
• 24:41
  Yeah, it's so funny, because I really
• 24:43
  don't like being on camera, which is ironic,
• 24:46
  because we're here at a genetic, and you have a podcast.
• 24:49
  Thank you.
• 24:50
  Yeah, I have a podcast, but the podcast was more his idea.
• 24:54
  And I was just getting to the point where I'm just like,
• 24:57
  OK, Caller Tati, great name.
• 24:59
  Like, we just need to do it for the name.
• 25:01
  Yeah, that's it.
• 25:03
  Just to bring more Yiddish into the world.
• 25:06
  Yiddish, controversy.
• 25:08
  I like controversy.
• 25:09
  It's just fun.
• 25:10
  Just like fun.
• 25:11
  I like a little controversy.
• 25:12
  You know what, sometimes there are topics that come up
• 25:16
  at work, people on my podcast that are here.
• 25:19
  And, you know, some people have their opinions.
• 25:21
  And sometimes I like to just speak the truth.
• 25:23
  Is that George Floyd, by the way?
• 25:26
  I don't know.
• 25:27
  That's the Dwayne Ray.
• 25:28
  Dwayne Wade.
• 25:30
  That's our goal.
• 25:32
  We're literally saying not political when living up.
• 25:35
  Is that George Floyd?
• 25:37
  What is wrong with you?
• 25:40
  Down.
• 25:42
  I didn't say anything.
• 25:43
  Yeah, I didn't say that.
• 25:47
  She's like, that should be Charlie Kurt.
• 25:50
  Oh, God.
• 25:52
  Right.
• 25:53
  Good clip.
• 25:54
  Lizzie, what was your first honest impression of Ira?
• 26:00
  Very cute, handsome, polished, quiet.
• 26:05
  I think he seemed scared of me.
• 26:08
  I'm still scared of you.
• 26:10
  But I liked him.
• 26:11
  And I was annoyed at because he left.
• 26:15
  It was my 19th birthday, right?
• 26:18
  Or right before my 19th birthday?
• 26:20
  I think you came back.
• 26:21
  It was like two weeks before.
• 26:23
  And he left to go out with a couple of his other friends
• 26:28
  and our mutual friend, Mickey.
• 26:30
  I was like, where did your friend and I go?
• 26:32
  He was cute.
• 26:33
  He's like, you thought he was cute?
• 26:35
  And I was like, yeah.
• 26:36
  And then, yeah, I guess you heard that.
• 26:39
  And you were surprised that I took an interest.
• 26:42
  Is that right?
• 26:43
  Is that right?
• 26:44
  I mean, yeah, I was all surprised.
• 26:45
  Because also, I don't think you were giving me
• 26:47
  a lot of signs when we were there.
• 26:50
  I mean.
• 26:51
  But now that I know you, she's a very low bar
• 26:54
  of who she thinks is cute.
• 26:56
  So it's not that big of a...
• 26:57
  I find most people attracted.
• 26:59
  And Ira, what was your first impression of Lizzie
• 27:01
  when you first met?
• 27:03
  Like, very different from every girl
• 27:06
  that I knew growing up in Long Island.
• 27:10
  Just very bright and like illuminating brightness.
• 27:18
  Energy.
• 27:18
  Branding.
• 27:19
  Yeah.
• 27:20
  In her dorm room, she had a picture of herself
• 27:24
  on the refrigerator on her fridge.
• 27:25
  It was a headshot.
• 27:26
  It was a headshot.
• 27:27
  My roommates had put it in my headshot.
• 27:29
  Like, so I was doing music and acting and stuff
• 27:32
  as a joke on our dorm room refrigerator.
• 27:35
  So like, you walk into my dorm and there's
• 27:37
  like a big picture of just me.
• 27:39
  Very narcissistic.
• 27:40
  But I also thought she was someone that was...
• 27:43
  Did you have your wallpaper of your phone
• 27:45
  and picture of you, too?
• 27:48
  Like your phone.
• 27:49
  Was it picture of you?
• 27:50
  No.
• 27:51
  Our wallpaper in our bedroom, is it?
• 27:53
  No, it's on your phone.
• 27:54
  No, it's on your phone.
• 27:55
  Oh, yeah.
• 27:56
  No, it's actually...
• 27:57
  Who is your wallpaper?
• 27:58
  I feel like every girl in Brickle is.
• 27:59
  It's a hotel.
• 28:00
  Oh, okay.
• 28:01
  That's the worst.
• 28:02
  Don't use yourself.
• 28:03
  Are you joking?
• 28:04
  No, there are people, especially in Brickle.
• 28:06
  Like if there's someone else in your family,
• 28:08
  it's fine.
• 28:09
  Like, the people have themselves.
• 28:10
  Yeah, that's huge.
• 28:11
  Oh, but wait, show them your wallpaper on your phone.
• 28:15
  What is that?
• 28:16
  Yeah.
• 28:17
  Who is that?
• 28:18
  It's me and Thursday.
• 28:19
  It goes to the camera.
• 28:21
  It shows.
• 28:22
  It's so cute.
• 28:23
  You need to tap it.
• 28:24
  Wow.
• 28:25
  Wow.
• 28:26
  That's very sweet.
• 28:27
  You were glasses.
• 28:28
  Yeah.
• 28:29
  It's still in context.
• 28:30
  Yeah.
• 28:31
  Okay.
• 28:32
  Yeah.
• 28:33
  What is something about your relationship
• 28:36
  that people would be shocked to learn?
• 28:43
  Our relationship?
• 28:43
  Yeah.
• 28:48
  I'm the one that does most of the cleaning.
• 28:51
  Yeah, he's very neat.
• 28:52
  Okay.
• 28:53
  Very messy.
• 28:54
  He's very domestic.
• 28:55
  Really?
• 28:56
  He's very domestic.
• 28:57
  His mother trained him very well.
• 28:59
  He's the youngest of four.
• 29:00
  Yeah, I'm very.
• 29:00
  He used to get paid $1 an hour to clean.
• 29:06
  The house.
• 29:07
  I'm a very good cleaner.
• 29:08
  Not a good negotiator.
• 29:09
  It's just the 90s.
• 29:12
  A book.
• 29:13
  A book.
• 29:14
  No.
• 29:15
  A book.
• 29:16
  A book.
• 29:17
  I mean, I'm a boy.
• 29:18
  It was like three at least.
• 29:19
  Listen, I would stretch out my hours.
• 29:20
  I know.
• 29:21
  I will.
• 29:22
  Also, we don't fight.
• 29:23
  Yeah, we don't fight.
• 29:24
  Yeah.
• 29:25
  How do you not fight?
• 29:29
  I feel like there's not a lot of things that we care.
• 29:31
  Like, we're very strongly have committed about in our personal lives.
• 29:35
  And I think that, um, I don't know.
• 29:39
  Yeah.
• 29:40
  I mean, I usually just am able to be like, that one's not worth it.
• 29:44
  It wasn't always the case.
• 29:46
  Yeah.
• 29:47
  But I think we've just like, we just gave it.
• 29:49
  We just realized that it didn't get us anywhere.
• 29:52
  How long have you guys married for?
• 29:54
  16 years.
• 29:55
  Okay.
• 29:56
  So maybe like by your 16, we'll stop fighting.
• 29:58
  We used to be bigger.
• 29:59
  We used to be bigger.
• 30:00
  We used to be bigger.
• 30:01
  But it's because I'll tell you what it is.
• 30:04
  We bigger because I have misophonia.
• 30:08
  So what is misophonia?
• 30:10
  It's, it's when all these little noises.
• 30:13
  Oh, God.
• 30:14
  It's like piss me off to no end.
• 30:16
  It's not allowed.
• 30:17
  It's a cure.
• 30:18
  No, no, no, no.
• 30:19
  Breathe out.
• 30:20
  Breathe out.
• 30:21
  I'm just, I just eat.
• 30:22
  I just, I'm a human.
• 30:23
  No, no.
• 30:24
  You know what she literally says to me?
• 30:25
  She goes, your cheeks are too thin.
• 30:27
  You're a cheek because they're not insulated.
• 30:29
  It's when you hear like the food being like brunch.
• 30:32
  So what is he supposed to do again?
• 30:34
  Wait, I don't know.
• 30:35
  I don't know.
• 30:36
  But like, I mean, maybe the general.
• 30:38
  You have to do more pureed and soft food.
• 30:41
  No, no, no, no, because then the soup is slurping.
• 30:44
  The coffee is slurping.
• 30:46
  This is crunchy.
• 30:47
  Whenever he's something crunchy,
• 30:48
  it sounds like he's eating sand.
• 30:50
  So there are things that annoy me.
• 30:52
  Right.
• 30:53
  But I just don't bring them up.
• 30:54
  No.
• 30:55
  You just, yeah.
• 30:56
  I just follow it.
• 30:57
  I just follow it.
• 30:58
  Just follow it.
• 30:59
  Because I know he's not going to change.
• 31:00
  Like the way you're a very gross eater.
• 31:02
  Like you just, you're also a gross eater.
• 31:04
  Yeah.
• 31:05
  But I don't like.
• 31:06
  We're meant.
• 31:07
  Listen.
• 31:08
  Hold on.
• 31:09
  No.
• 31:10
  We're meant from the five towns.
• 31:11
  Right.
• 31:12
  By the way, it's 100% of five towns.
• 31:13
  Yeah.
• 31:14
  They were etiquette was not something.
• 31:15
  No, I said.
• 31:16
  I went to Catillion, but.
• 31:17
  I went to an all-boykishiva.
• 31:19
  Where'd you go?
• 31:20
  South Shore.
• 31:21
  Okay.
• 31:22
  I grew up in a household.
• 31:23
  I got up from a table, like a shoppers table, and just go.
• 31:27
  You excuse yourself.
• 31:28
  You have your napkin on your lap.
• 31:30
  You eat like a munch.
• 31:31
  And then when I met him, it's like.
• 31:33
  There's no manners in the five towns.
• 31:35
  There's no manners.
• 31:36
  No, I'm not.
• 31:37
  I'm not.
• 31:38
  I'm not.
• 31:39
  I'm not.
• 31:40
  I'm not.
• 31:41
  Why did they do that?
• 31:42
  I don't know.
• 31:43
  I don't know.
• 31:44
  You fell in love with us.
• 31:46
  You fell in love with her.
• 31:47
  I am training him like a little puppy.
• 31:49
  Yeah.
• 31:50
  Yeah.
• 31:51
  Okay.
• 31:52
  So, Ira, you're a plastic surgeon.
• 31:55
  Lizzie, you're an activist.
• 31:57
  You're an influencer.
• 31:58
  You guys have very different career paths.
• 32:02
  How do you support each other's careers behind the scenes?
• 32:07
  Well, well, you know, I always felt very strong opinions about Israel, Judaism, politics.
• 32:17
  I feel like I've always had.
• 32:19
  So, for naturally, for me to support the things that Lizzie does, it's just, you know, I feel them.
• 32:26
  I'm not as public as for about it, but, you know, I have very strong beliefs about it.
• 32:32
  Yeah.
• 32:33
  It's interesting because like, there's been maybe a handful of times where I held a different opinion than him.
• 32:39
  Very strongly to the point where I wanted to, like, go public with it.
• 32:43
  Like, I won't mention that.
• 32:45
  Yeah, please.
• 32:46
  I don't know what you're talking about, but yeah, it's fine.
• 32:48
  Yeah.
• 32:49
  It's okay.
• 32:50
  Anyway, so, but, um, yeah, like, for the most part, we're so aligned that it makes sense.
• 33:04
  But even before, like, before the activist chapter, you were super supportive of my fashion stuff.
• 33:12
  Of course.
• 33:13
  I remember like, when I was first starting the blog and you're like, I came home from a show at Fashion Week
• 33:18
  and you're like, you didn't even get a picture of yourself. Like, what are you doing?
• 33:21
  Right.
• 33:22
  You need, like, hustle.
• 33:24
  Lizzie, come on.
• 33:25
  You like to kill it.
• 33:26
  You're like very driven.
• 33:27
  You like it.
• 33:28
  You know, I was into the power couple lives.
• 33:32
  Yeah.
• 33:33
  I mean, I think also it's, and you do the same thing for me, right?
• 33:38
  Like, we're always going to be our worst critic and hardest on ourselves.
• 33:41
  And like, we're going to hesitate about posting or doing something.
• 33:45
  And you need to sometimes that little push.
• 33:47
  When I made you post about the hair transplant.
• 33:49
  Yes.
• 33:50
  Because he had a hair transplant.
• 33:51
  And I'm like, you're not going to tell, I'm like, you want to keep this a secret.
• 33:54
  I'm like, I'm telling you, there are so many guys out there that will love you for that.
• 33:58
  Oh, yeah.
• 33:59
  For like, sharing the experience, especially in his field.
• 34:02
  When did you do that?
• 34:03
  20, like, COVID 2020.
• 34:04
  Oh, how old are you?
• 34:06
  You asked me to do math right now.
• 34:08
  I was like, I was like 37.
• 34:10
  Okay.
• 34:11
  So like, you know what it was?
• 34:12
  I had access to the device.
• 34:15
  And I was, you know, closely working with a dormitology group.
• 34:19
  And it was COVID.
• 34:20
  And I was like, yeah, whatever.
• 34:22
  But we didn't go to Turkey.
• 34:23
  No.
• 34:24
  No.
• 34:25
  But we had like a little set.
• 34:26
  He said those videos.
• 34:27
  The headband guys.
• 34:28
  Yeah.
• 34:29
  Yeah.
• 34:30
  Oh, my God.
• 34:31
  They're just like defensive and like pissy when it initially, and I know that I'm like hitting
• 34:36
  an ear.
• 34:37
  And he's like, I don't what do I need to tell people?
• 34:38
  I don't need to tell people that I'm gonna hear it.
• 34:40
  And the next thing I know he's like filming the video, like the whole process.
• 34:45
  And it has gruesome and violent.
• 34:47
  And he's like, do you like it?
• 34:48
  Like, should I post this?
• 34:49
  So,
• 34:50
  Do you do that in practice?
• 34:51
  I don't do that.
• 34:52
  I read for that.
• 34:53
  But it is interesting because people still message me about, you know, where should I go for
• 34:58
  hair transplant, you know, and it's same thing about.
• 35:00
  about it was also like it was that it started with him shaving his head and it was like it's Brittany
• 35:05
  bitch. That's awesome. So you know I had like a vision in mind for how he should but now Ira is like
• 35:15
  I've created a monster with social media like last night. Yeah we did the yeah we did the turkey
• 35:22
  thing. He's crazy. Well we'll let you know. He's obsessive. He's like we should have captioned
• 35:28
  in this what song with a viral trending song that I should put behind. I'm like I have no idea.
• 35:33
  I don't know anything about trends or virality. It's true. He does. I asked the girls. Yeah.
• 35:39
  The girls know like TikTok music and stuff. They're actually she's my TikTok. I tell him what's
• 35:45
  trending which is hilarious because I tell them started this. I was all day long on TikTok.
• 35:50
  Right. And I'm like oh it's only you need to use this song. It's trending. He's like what's
• 35:53
  on is this like you don't know it's like no. I don't know any of it. I like to go through
• 35:59
  TikTok. Also like even just for like real estate purposes like to see like how people are
• 36:04
  posting what people are posting. Yeah. There's a lot of very cringey real estate videos out there
• 36:09
  that like but like I just want to see what looks good what doesn't. I feel the same way about
• 36:16
  plastic surgery with like the I'm watching other plastic surgery videos and like a lot of cheese
• 36:23
  out there. Well yeah plastic surgery and you have over half a million followers. Well across
• 36:30
  platforms. Okay. How many or do you know of any of your followers that go to your husband
• 36:37
  because they follow you? Oh yeah for sure. Oh tremendous. I was going to say the indirect support
• 36:42
  that I have given his business. Yeah. It's immeasurable because I see people all the time. Yeah.
• 36:47
  It's all like a circle because he supports me and then I support him and then my followers go
• 36:51
  to him and then you know it's like yeah and she's not like active you know you're not even
• 36:55
  actively. No in the beginning I feel like when you first were opening on park avenue in New York
• 37:02
  I feel like we were hustling like we went public with the fact that you had done my boobs. Right
• 37:06
  right right and you all the sudden it went from like Lizzie don't post yourself in a bikini to like
• 37:11
  Lizzie post yourself in a bikini and tell everyone I did your tits and you know it's called her
• 37:16
  Tati. It's all good. No it's all heard. No. So you operated on Lizzie? Yes. Is that legal?
• 37:27
  Yeah I mean I think there's there's a great area in general I mean you're better off
• 37:32
  better not to to necessarily do it but I think if you feel like you're going to do the best job
• 37:39
  um and I think that you know every state is a little bit different but I wanted him to do it
• 37:44
  really because I trusted him because I knew it didn't feel weird for you to like slice your wife open
• 37:49
  did it? No no no I felt it's like build a bag you know it's the build a wife listen if you're
• 37:54
  if you're a pilot right you have no you have zero qual about taking a knife to your wife's flesh
• 38:02
  no it's actually like very empowering Lizzie uh that is kind of weird actually I never thought
• 38:08
  about it like that okay like like like to I mean I guess when you're a surgeon you do it all the
• 38:12
  time so it's like it's like me editing a video like it's yeah you know like your brain turned off
• 38:17
  if you're a pilot right I mean would you hesitate flying your family around probably not
• 38:23
  it's a little intimate but once you get in the driver's seat it's like you you're in a flow
• 38:29
  yeah so did you see my face at the beginning but you know then we block we put a little
• 38:34
  so you're not looking at my face no unless you're operating on your face was it weird like
• 38:39
  looking at my naked body on the table like knowing that that's the body that you have in your bed
• 38:44
  no and like your whole team around you yeah it's it's again you just you become like another patient
• 38:51
  yeah it's just it's like it's autopilot okay I love plastic surgery talk I already have a whole
• 38:59
  wish list of what I want to get done Zoli knows every every morning I wake up and I'm like Zoli
• 39:04
  think I want to do this I want to do this I want to do this you're so pretty you don't need anything
• 39:09
  I I'm like thinking about doing some things but I first have to sell like a million houses before
• 39:14
  I do all them what's the one procedure nobody should ever do huh oh boy let's think about this
• 39:26
  I know it I know that there are certain ones you don't like doing like BBL buckle
• 39:32
  yeah the the things that I'm like very hesitant about you know the the procedure nobody should
• 39:38
  ever put filler in their butt filler yeah people do that it's dangerous yeah yeah I mean I think
• 39:46
  any extremes are always just put cuggle in your mouth and it goes straight to your top people
• 39:56
  it is dangerous right to put filler in your ass yeah I mean filler in general you have to be
• 40:04
  careful about where you put it because a lot of times it's just not not readily reversible helps
• 40:10
  I think any any extremes like like the the the fox eye fox eye procedure right yeah you know anytime
• 40:17
  you're really distorting anatomy in an aggressive way you know a lot of these things are not
• 40:22
  reversible right but the fox eyes I feel like are I mean people look crazy they're like yeah I don't
• 40:28
  I I really don't like the brow lifts where the tail of the brow is pointing up right you know that
• 40:36
  is just unnatural so when I do a brow lift I'm always I want to retain sort of a natural sort of
• 40:43
  brow shape so I don't like I don't like that right so I don't I really don't that's one of
• 40:49
  the things I don't like I think buckle fat pad removal you have to be very selective on who you
• 40:54
  do it it's removing the fat pad here people like to show you like that could we do we have a someone
• 41:01
  who wants to donate like says for his chewing yeah she literally wants insulation
• 41:09
  well a factor after what sorry but when okay so we know the one that you wouldn't recommend
• 41:17
  what's the most risky surgery to perform well historically any because we're in Miami I think it's
• 41:26
  appropriate to talk about this is putting fat in your butt okay has you know it's interesting I
• 41:33
  think it's like over 90% of all deaths related to a procedure are in South Florida in a lot of the
• 41:40
  BBL the BBL yes so it's not that it's necessarily itself is unsafe but oftentimes the people
• 41:48
  that are doing it are not really qualified to do it and the way they were doing it for many years
• 41:52
  they put it in the muscle which has a lot of blood vessels and therefore the fat goes into one
• 41:57
  of those blood vessels and could go into your lungs and kill didn't Kanye's mom die from BBL I believe
• 42:03
  so she died from some plastic surgery complication so you know interestingly tummy tucks you know the
• 42:11
  one complication that people really are worried about is getting a blood clot and and you know a lot
• 42:17
  of it is from not moving around after surgery so those are complications I could kill you those
• 42:22
  are like the two in plastic surgery have you ever had a patient that I've never had a complication
• 42:30
  no have you ever had a patient that came to you and you just look at her or him and tell them
• 42:36
  you're going a little too far with your procedures like maybe they had a boob job maybe they got
• 42:42
  LIFO maybe they did a facelift and they're just like I want to go bigger I want to go smaller I want
• 42:47
  this room I want this put in and then what do you do to say you need to pump the brakes yeah all
• 42:54
  the time you know there's a saying in surgery in general it's you know it takes you five years
• 43:00
  to learn how to do surgery than 20 years learn went to not do surgery on someone and I think
• 43:08
  you know it's really important to figure out who not to operate on because at the end of the day
• 43:16
  you know they're not always going to be happy and they're going to blame you so like for example
• 43:21
  if someone comes in and they're like they want to do a procedure for someone else like for a boyfriend
• 43:25
  like you know they think they're going to like save their relationship you definitely don't want
• 43:29
  to operate on someone like that that's like a red flag or like someone with body this morphia
• 43:34
  who will show you things on their body that you just don't see like they're like my nose is
• 43:38
  horrible and it's like perfectly straight and normal and you're like you're not going to operate
• 43:43
  on that person so a lot of times you'll either gently kind of say like you know everything is great
• 43:49
  or if you need to just be like you know I don't think I'm the surgeon that could give you the
• 43:53
  results that you're looking for and you kind of slightly it happens less in New York I feel like
• 43:59
  than marijuana no there's a lot of a lot of people crazy people yeah I feel like here you just
• 44:05
  see it more on display because people don't really like rain clothing in Miami yeah right so like you
• 44:11
  see the fake boobs you see the BBLs you see the results of bad like most action and like the
• 44:18
  long side in there's like those are things that I I really notice when I move here every Miami
• 44:25
  real estate agent yeah so yeah Stephanie exactly they're just they look the same yeah you need
• 44:35
  luxury yes but the funniest part is when like you have the real estate agents and they look totally
• 44:40
  different than their pictures every single one everyone they they look like super models and they're
• 44:46
  like 75 when they get the work done you know they sold a few houses right I started looking like
• 44:51
  their profile yes exactly yeah but it's the bar yeah now Miami tends to be very overdone obviously
• 44:59
  with plastic surgery in New York is a much more we call it quiet luxury well I feel like I feel
• 45:07
  like in New York specifically women who live in the city they go for a much more like elegant silhouette
• 45:14
  versus people who live here in Miami yes like women in New York especially on the east side for from
• 45:21
  the multiple you know surgeons that I follow in Sargam nobody's doing anything that would
• 45:28
  make someone assume that they've had a lot of work done no I feel like you're like you restore
• 45:37
  yeah just like yeah subtle improvements yeah every people want to look natural in New York
• 45:46
  yeah right not so interesting if you had any like new surgeries come up more popular because of
• 45:51
  ozampic well it may be facial person like ozampic face or whatever yeah I mean so what can you
• 45:57
  actually explain what ozampic faces yeah I mean it's it's essentially people losing weight in
• 46:04
  rapidly rapidly I mean people also lose muscle density with ozampic so you're not just losing fat
• 46:10
  you're losing muscle too which I think causes it causes deflation in your face your body and to
• 46:20
  restore it a lot of times you're you're lifting you're removing skin but also you're restoring
• 46:25
  volume so in the face for example you are I like to put fat in the face how do you have fat when
• 46:32
  they're on ozampic yeah I mean honestly that's the hardest part of the surgery a lot of these
• 46:37
  patients on the east side to find fat you know I know everyone wants to donate fat no one wants
• 46:44
  to give it in reverse and kidney they just want to give away fat so when women have implants
• 46:53
  like you yes do you actually have to replace them every 10 years every 15 years yeah that's
• 47:01
  it's a good question so there's like a rough estimate of when you need to replace implants
• 47:07
  silicone implants you have to replace more frequently than saline right
• 47:12
  um and what happens is over time the shell of the silicone implants eventually starts to break down
• 47:18
  and your body will form scar tissue around it so what people what can happen over time is people
• 47:26
  their breasts go from feeling soft to a little bit hard and that's usually a sign of the implant
• 47:32
  shell starts to break down so that's why it's good that I have the surgeon to touch which one
• 47:37
  is safer they're both totally saline silicone they're totally sick I was actually in college with
• 47:42
  the squirrel and this was back in 2009 and I don't know I guess she was like the pioneer of like
• 47:51
  plastic surgery in like my class I guess because everyone was like college kids and then you have
• 47:56
  the squirrel come in and she had her boobs done like three times already her face was like
• 48:02
  my god in college in college and I remember she slipped down the stairs and ruptured one of her
• 48:10
  her breasts and I thought that was like so scary because she told me she had saline and she was
• 48:18
  also a prediabetic interesting I don't know if that was like a bigger concern or something the thing
• 48:25
  about saline it's like a water balloon if you rupture it it pops in the saline so you literally
• 48:31
  will have like one deflated breast and one non deflated breast so that's the one I guess the
• 48:39
  plus and the minus we're silicone if a rupture is more silent and it's just sort of walled off
• 48:45
  in your body but yeah I mean implants are totally safe otherwise I wouldn't have had you know
• 48:56
  yeah I think there's like a lot of fear and misconduct I have an autoimmune disease and people are
• 49:01
  like you're going to get breast implants illness and I've had mine now for five years and I have
• 49:06
  not had any issues I let them I wish that I had done it sooner like yeah I mean I think you have
• 49:12
  to be comfortable with the idea of having a foreign body you know if you're not I wouldn't know
• 49:16
  that I have I know but oh but I guess if it's in your head yeah some people are not comfortable
• 49:22
  having I just figured well I'll take them out yeah it's true do you get a lot of customers for that
• 49:28
  surgery in the more religious community that maybe people would not expect yeah you know it's
• 49:33
  funny um I have a lot of patients from yeah Williamsburg Barrow Park they want to look hot and I
• 49:42
  will tell you more for face than body I mean body is very popular because there's they have a lot
• 49:48
  of children and you know that's for sure but what's interesting I think the more modest you dress
• 49:54
  the thing that you're showing the most is your face right so I have a lot of you know even
• 49:59
  I've had women from the sophomore community where you know they shave their heads and
• 50:04
  but they want they want their face and jawline to look really good because that's what they're
• 50:08
  showing to the world so I think there's like a definitely I mean they're not public about it they're
• 50:13
  much more private but they want to look good I've never think like Haseer Schweman would get their
• 50:21
  faces done oh they they are I know that they're into the Botox and the filler but I didn't know
• 50:25
  that they would go under the night for like a facelift yeah yeah what do you specialize in by the
• 50:30
  ways or any like per異ty face mainly face face and nose okay so what do you think about
• 50:35
  christian or facelift I think she looks incredible and I think so into your friend yeah um you know
• 50:41
  steves it seems a good friend and he's a great surgeon and he's a good person and um I think she
• 50:47
  looks great and I love that how transparent she was about it and I think that um you know any time
• 50:56
  that there's good plastic surgery that's out there it's good for our specialty because what happens
• 51:02
  oftentimes is bad plastic surgeries look at sensationalized and this does it the service to the
• 51:09
  so many plastic surgeons that are doing good work so I was so like happy that she was transparent
• 51:16
  and she looks great yeah more and more people now are being open about their work yeah I mean I
• 51:22
  also think we're also noticing like obviously if somebody's face looks dramatically different like
• 51:28
  there's no shame because I think it's becoming so normal almost expected like if you don't get
• 51:33
  work it's like why don't you get Botox yet why don't you get filler yet why don't you get your
• 51:38
  boobs done like why not and it's like if you're natural it's almost like you're the odd one out
• 51:43
  people that you like used to lie about getting Botox right remember remember now it's like
• 51:50
  everyone does it well it's interesting there's a there's a little bit of there's an interesting
• 51:55
  shift because it's also becoming like a status thing and I think that um you know I remember hearing
• 52:03
  years ago in Iran like women would wear a splint on their nose even when they didn't have a nose
• 52:11
  job because it was like a status thing like I'm rich enough to get my nose done correct and I think
• 52:17
  you see some you see it here a little bit where people are wanting to publicize work that they've
• 52:22
  done because it's like it's a status thing yeah but I also think you have like you have the fossil
• 52:29
  record meaning it's impossible to hide it anymore right back in the day you could I didn't get any
• 52:34
  worked on yeah I'm working out of the gym you got photos you got videos yeah so I'm like I can be
• 52:41
  I don't exactly like you probably have Chachi PT tell me exactly so you just you can't hide it anymore
• 52:46
  and when there's such a dramatic shift from one post to the next I know you know that Instagram
• 52:51
  fossil record is strong well it's like it's like you have any photos of the X on there you know
• 52:57
  why are they still together like you can tell so much just from the subtle details that's why it's
• 53:02
  better to just own your story exactly talk about the horse talk about the facelift
• 53:07
  you're gonna find out what is a facelift like christianners cost oh such a wide range I mean
• 53:14
  well let me know how many houses I have to get one of those those are wide range you know nationally
• 53:20
  and then I would say in New York I mean anything between for a facelift is between 30 40
• 53:26
  thousand to half a million dollars I mean there's a wide range and there's and in part of it is
• 53:35
  it's your face and I think that if you're gonna not looking for a deal when it's well if you're like
• 53:40
  gonna if you're someone who's gonna buy a luxury vehicle or I mean what is more important in your
• 53:45
  face so I think that you do want to go to someone who you trust and has the expertise to deliver the
• 53:51
  result that you're gonna be what literally walking around with right and what's your opinion on
• 53:56
  on patients who rather travel overseas for a discounted procedure yeah I listen I think there's
• 54:04
  a lot of great surgeons around the world and I know many of them but it's it's hard to
• 54:10
  to know who's gonna be good who's gonna be safe I think if you're looking for a discount I think
• 54:17
  it shouldn't be when it comes to plastic surgery because you know there's I mean when it's your face
• 54:24
  your body it's just not worth risking the results but also your safety yeah I'm trying to save
• 54:31
  I rate is so committed to his patients and I mean I'm sure other people that are in your field
• 54:39
  at your level like we on our way here yesterday morning he at 4 in the morning went to go see his
• 54:45
  patient before he would get on the airplane like so he's on call 24-7 for his patients you know
• 54:52
  it's just a different level like what if you're overseas and you have a complication what are you
• 54:57
  gonna call turkey for right I mean people are going overseas for for discount lesson it's the
• 55:02
  one is the most thing if you're going overseas to seek out like a great plastic surgeon you're
• 55:06
  gonna get but you're not gonna save money necessarily but if you're going for a discount it's
• 55:10
  going to be a little bit of a of a mill so well with plastic surgery influencing
• 55:18
  you're on both of you on social media and you're super well known obviously and then I guess
• 55:26
  real housewives of New York approached you is that what happened yeah they've approached Lizzie yeah
• 55:33
  and why are yours why did you say yes because my husband told me to was it really your idea
• 55:39
  so no so so they they I mean they key they approached Lizzie probably since 2018 New York
• 55:49
  like reach out to you 2018 2019 and then we moved to Dallas for a few years and then
• 55:54
  real housewives of Dallas approached her and she got casted in Dallas but then the show
• 55:59
  was not renewed and then New York reach out to again so it was like following her around for
• 56:05
  for many years and she was reluctant to do it for many years and then and I thought that
• 56:13
  you know part of it the first thing that I told them I was like I'll talk to you but I'm not
• 56:18
  doing it I was like you know I was like I'm not doing this this is not for me like I told the
• 56:22
  casting director that and I think it just made them by the way pro tips make them chase you but
• 56:28
  I really meant it like I was not interested yeah and I think that yeah she was reluctant and then
• 56:37
  I was kind of like more I guess adventurous in saying you know you're like Lizzie sometimes
• 56:43
  you just have to do a reality show to get your message out there yeah there's you know you get
• 56:47
  your message out there you get your business out there it's a great platform it's yeah it's a great
• 56:53
  platform if it's gonna go in the direction you want it to go right you know the issue is obviously
• 57:01
  is that you you don't have any editing control and you know they can make you look however they want
• 57:07
  to make you to make you look but I think the idea that seemed very intriguing to for both of our
• 57:15
  careers like how do you get out of the echo chamber right exactly yeah how do you build more of a
• 57:22
  following and exactly so yeah so I think I think you bought into it at some point I mean well they
• 57:30
  yeah because they were doing it as a reboot like a whole new cast and they sold it to me I mean
• 57:35
  that's what they do yeah you know they're very manipulative and I wanted to believe that it was
• 57:43
  going to be net positive I knew that I wasn't stupid enough to think that it was going to be
• 57:50
  a walk in the park but I was hopeful that that good would outweigh the bat and
• 57:55
  very quickly realized that um so you started the filming process yeah well the whole casting
• 58:02
  process was what like nine months I mean it was a long time because they were casting a whole new
• 58:07
  show and so they were taking it very seriously and there were so many calls I had to fly day
• 58:12
  back and we were still living in Dallas we were moving to New York for like he was opening up his
• 58:19
  practice but I had to fly into New York to meet with the producers and what like they were so
• 58:26
  strategic about this casting process and um so I was waiting to hear forever and then I was the
• 58:33
  first one that they kind of cast the show around and I so that I mean I was my ego was just you know
• 58:42
  on fire I was like this is amazing like they're gonna you know I'm gonna be the star of this show
• 58:47
  and you know I I knew other people that were on it and I had good um to know I actually I got my
• 58:54
  friend Aaron on she asked me I had asked her to help me find in a partner when I was living back
• 59:02
  and I was telling her that I needed a building that would be okay with filming because I was going
• 59:06
  to be on the show and she said oh are they still casting could you recommend me and so I
• 59:11
  recommended her and she got cast so you forgot how about you you bailed well I bail I bounced but
• 59:18
  it was um but what's interesting is that the the casting process was very disorganized and
• 59:25
  they really I think they struggle to get people number one first of all a lot of people don't want to
• 59:34
  do it right because you're putting a left off the people they want don't want it right a lot of
• 59:37
  times people they don't want to want it um and then the people that want to be on it they don't want
• 59:42
  so it's very it's a very tough casting and and when they were casting for the reboot they were
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  they were trying to make a very diverse cast from very they were trying to like type cast they
• 59:53
  were like do you have any Latina they were literally like do you have any time friends you have
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  Latino friends and it's like so they they basically just threw up on it we wanted to be an
• 1:00:03
  organic group of friends but we need one black one but the right right well they wanted to be
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  inclusive and they want to get the viewers and they want to just like kind of reach everybody they
• 1:00:12
  can possibly reach which is which is fine if it's organic yeah but when you're throwing a
• 1:00:17
  mishmash of random people it's like the whole show was like a bunch of like like spoiled upper
• 1:00:23
  aside ladies complaining about their Botox and their birdcats like that was the vibe of the show
• 1:00:28
  like that was why people loved it right like they loved it they all got their flaws they're not
• 1:00:32
  diverse they all got their own and that's why it was so good it was interesting it was real they
• 1:00:37
  tried to manufacture it and then he was trying to like just like not offend anybody yeah because it
• 1:00:42
  got it got canceled because of controversy and like because of sort of the new
• 1:00:51
  culture of entertainment where you you couldn't say certain things and you couldn't look a certain
• 1:00:56
  way and I think they were trying to circumvent that it's kind of how much of the actual filming
• 1:01:03
  did you do before you're like I'm out like three weeks okay but it was and was that like they were
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  in your apartment like when you like like walk like you wake up six a.m. it's like what's going on
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  no so it's when you have a very pre-programmed okay yeah it's scheduled it's like today you're
• 1:01:20
  going to be going shopping with Aaron and Jessel and you're going to talk about this upcoming trip
• 1:01:28
  that you have for the weekend at the Hampton and then they pre-plan like the arguments you're
• 1:01:32
  going to have well not so much but though like they know from the interviewing process which is
• 1:01:38
  pretty extensive like what your buttons are oh they're rage-baiting you yeah oh they just so
• 1:01:44
  they just like oh see this to Lizzie this is pisser yeah so that's what they did and that's
• 1:01:48
  ultimately like what happened and because they had told this one cast member Brynn that I like to
• 1:01:56
  set Jews up with other Jews like is a Jewish matchmaker and so they were like ask her to set
• 1:02:01
  you up with the Jewish guy like see what she says you know and and then it led to this whole
• 1:02:08
  explosive situation in my apartment oh my god on camera and I didn't I just felt really really
• 1:02:16
  uncomfortable because she I knew that the production team had told her to ask me like I knew
• 1:02:23
  what was happening I was seeing it unfold and I knew that they told her to keep harbing on it and
• 1:02:30
  so when the scene ended I said to the executive producer like she came out of she was in like the
• 1:02:37
  bedroom looking at the monitor watching everything and then she came out and I'm like why'd you
• 1:02:41
  like how could you guys do this to me like you know that my whole mission is to fight anti-semitism
• 1:02:46
  and this is going to lead to more of it right I don't I was like the last thing I want being a
• 1:02:50
  part of this is to cause more Jews like right now people are gonna like I'm like if this scene
• 1:02:56
  airs the way that you guys have or this storyline the way you guys are going with this is like I
• 1:03:00
  don't trust you yeah and so she was trying to like goss over it smooth over it and ended up just
• 1:03:06
  exploding and it was just it was a terrible situation like did you keep filming after that or is
• 1:03:14
  that like like thinking you're gonna work it out I did I filmed one more scene and then that when
• 1:03:19
  everything came to a head they were all in our apartment the production and it was I was down
• 1:03:26
  stairs I was about to film a scene in the apartment with Ira and I was on the phone with the producer
• 1:03:31
  about everything that I've been going down and she wanted me to get on the phone with Bren
• 1:03:38
  and smooth things over on a phone call and it told Bren to like you know so this wasn't even on
• 1:03:45
  camera it was off camera and I thought Bren was gonna come on the phone and apologize and you're
• 1:03:51
  gonna move forward and they were never gonna air it and that's not what happened and Ira what she
• 1:03:57
  say so she had basically said in the scene on camera that when I had talked about being anxious
• 1:04:07
  about the continuity of the Jewish people and that's why and it was important to me to set Jews
• 1:04:13
  up with Jews because of the because a Jews becomes Jewish because of their mother's blood I said
• 1:04:20
  it's a bloodline and she said you just said the word bloodline she said that's is that like a bad
• 1:04:26
  I didn't know apparently it's controversial oh my god oh I think that's around like the jeans
• 1:04:30
  thing like the good jeans yeah I said bloodline and she said they make they make a new one up
• 1:04:36
  every week it's so exclusive and she said you sound exactly like those people who did those
• 1:04:40
  horrible things to your people oh my god and I'm like did she just call me a Nazi on camera like in
• 1:04:45
  my own home and then so Ira lost it on the picked up the phone it started yelling well because she
• 1:04:53
  threatened you she did she threatened me on the phone it was on speaker phone I was getting
• 1:04:56
  already in my bathroom and I heard her say well I said I never said the what she said I never
• 1:05:02
  said that we're Nazi there are two in words I never say and that's one of them and I was like
• 1:05:08
  well then she wanted to say the other one yeah so I said those people who did those horrible
• 1:05:12
  things to your people like I it's a rose by any other name and she's like well then I'm
• 1:05:17
  the next time you say something I'm kind about a black person I'm gonna say you call them the
• 1:05:20
  inward and she actually said it yeah and I said and I said wait like are you threatening me
• 1:05:26
  right you're gonna tell people I said the inward right I didn't say it you said it and then
• 1:05:33
  Ira lost his mind yeah because like she's threatening and then the producer was just completely
• 1:05:39
  she's like he just cursed at me I'm gonna need to get off this couple like when it's a victim mode
• 1:05:43
  victim mode and then the producer was like we need it in this car and I went upstairs into the
• 1:05:50
  apartment and I told the whole camera for I was like get out I'm like we can't film right now like
• 1:05:55
  my husband's not in any position to be on camera when we have no control over the editing
• 1:06:02
  and because he was in a rage and they were like what happened what happened and I told them we
• 1:06:07
  told them the story of what had happened they were like asking and um and that was it and then yeah
• 1:06:14
  I got a call Monday that we were no longer gonna be filming with you oh so you actually who
• 1:06:18
  didn't quit they were like we're done and then it was like a mutual decision yeah I was very happy
• 1:06:24
  to leave I never shed one tear I was like this but and that's and then never aired right that
• 1:06:30
  footage never never aired did you make sure of that when you broke up that you were like that is
• 1:06:34
  what did he do with that footage I don't know but fifty thousand dollars and legal fees to make
• 1:06:39
  sure that we never yeah and to give me out of that contract because I was in a contract with
• 1:06:44
  them for seven years well that they had to have a final approval on everything that I did
• 1:06:51
  and and they set that so they were very clear when they were firing me we are not firing you
• 1:06:56
  you're just no longer filming with you you are still bound by your contract oh so they could
• 1:07:00
  technically still use it no I mean they wanted to they wanted to uphold the confidentiality clause
• 1:07:08
  they don't want you to speak but they never paid me so so it was like that the contract actually
• 1:07:13
  could stand did they pay well I feel like they don't even pay well no but there's no glam there's no
• 1:07:18
  glam budget right no right I know this oh they don't pay you for clothes they don't pay for makeup
• 1:07:23
  and they pay you like basically three grand in epic no way that's it for season and then you're
• 1:07:29
  filming like a whole day basically for oh that's why they after you know that's crazy you know a cast
• 1:07:36
  numbers on for you know three four five six years you know their salaries become so high that
• 1:07:44
  bravo was like eh time to get someone new that's why they get that's why they get rid of the ones
• 1:07:50
  that have been on for 10 years right even though they're the star power they don't want to pay them
• 1:07:54
  a million dollars a year which is basically what they're getting but they're also getting endorsement
• 1:07:58
  yeah they're making money on other yeah obviously you don't do it for the money yeah it's never
• 1:08:03
  about yeah I knew I was going to lose money doing the show yeah it's exposure I don't expect to be
• 1:08:08
  spending fifty thousand dollars on a lawyer to get me out of the contract but literally just your
• 1:08:12
  hair and make clothes glang oh yeah you lose money just a hair makeup and an outfit for you and
• 1:08:18
  your husband no only they provide glam for the confessions yeah yeah of course yeah so you had
• 1:08:27
  to spend them okay and then didn't even happen yeah and they want to prove along all that too on
• 1:08:32
  the word right I know that because when I was working with my options right right except when I
• 1:08:38
  was working with Kimmy with uh Lars the Pippin so she was also doing confessional like they had
• 1:08:44
  this party in that party so I was working with the stylist here oh yeah um and we're like
• 1:08:49
  we had to like get all the clothes yes um little side thing I do the styling that's amazing
• 1:08:55
  so I remember we went to our apartment well I don't do that that often um but I did it
• 1:09:02
  you have great stuff too it's like a side hustle for her yes a side hustle good I mean I still work
• 1:09:05
  with that I'm all guys this is from blinded check it out that a terminal very um but I think what's
• 1:09:12
  it you know I think part of why a lot of these shows are not doing well is because they're so
• 1:09:17
  produced yeah they you know it's not yeah people loved Bethany because she would wake up in the
• 1:09:23
  morning with her blessed ponytail and she still continues that now she just takes our huge yeah
• 1:09:29
  she's herself people like that they wonder real right and it actually the producers wanted us to
• 1:09:35
  be real to some like like but the girls are now like producing themselves right well would you
• 1:09:41
  ever do a reality show and just yourself I wouldn't no I mean the I mean the problem is is that
• 1:09:47
  oh if I if I if you had your own show your own show do whatever you want it like I have to
• 1:09:52
  let it keeping up with like editing like control I guess then that's different definitely would
• 1:09:58
  never do an ensemble cast no just yeah you and Ira yeah if we want to watch yeah I think it's
• 1:10:05
  interesting because you're not working in like the same right industry so it's like you look like
• 1:10:12
  I mean there are great shows on plastic surgery sure sure like Dr. Dubro like great show Dr.
• 1:10:17
  Nassif like yep I love watching those remember Dr. Ray yeah long time ago me and my mom would sit
• 1:10:23
  there and watch me start talking I know to know oh he was like the OG yeah yes my mom and I
• 1:10:28
  would literally watch him my mother's like I want to get that done and I'm like I'm gonna get it
• 1:10:32
  too it was like literally like my childhood and then this one obviously yes there's a lot of
• 1:10:37
  plastic surgery shows I think we should bring back the big loser well that was in a plastic surgery
• 1:10:41
  show I love that show that was great show that was a good show that was a documentary that we watched
• 1:10:45
  on that yeah like they gave him drugs it was caffeine pills yeah but I do feel like a lot of people
• 1:10:52
  don't realize how fun we are and like funny and how much we laugh because we're both present
• 1:11:00
  very serious right you seem very serious yeah with your profession you seem like a very serious
• 1:11:05
  activist because yeah your your videos are very like big update guys I love it I love it no one
• 1:11:15
  I could I mean like we were gonna work together but I couldn't keep up with the speed you needed
• 1:11:19
  yeah you you need to get it out ASAP are you editing your own videos yeah yeah I do wow
• 1:11:24
  but I don't she didn't have time for me like she was like he's too slow I have some but I
• 1:11:28
  so you do I appreciate it like one of my most viral like act in his videos was the one you
• 1:11:34
  edited of my speech oh yeah because that was a great speech and but the way that you put it
• 1:11:39
  together was so good and so polished and like I I wish that I had the self discipline to wait
• 1:11:47
  but you need both you need the followers right and you need the wrong right people want to see both
• 1:11:52
  sides like they do when you have like a banger of a clip or like a speech or whatever like yeah put
• 1:11:57
  the time into it send it to an editor whatever but like the daily like quit like my most viral is
• 1:12:02
  actually the complete opposite it's me just putting my yeah the key fob ploner 28 million views
• 1:12:07
  it was like two seconds I put the phone on the counter recorded and by the way the trial
• 1:12:13
  reel has nine million views to wow so like it's probably combined like 40 million
• 1:12:17
  views it was such a game changer because we're always losing that I know it's just like you
• 1:12:20
  hit on a nerve we're always losing that exactly okay we are running out of time but I do want to
• 1:12:27
  ask each of you one question and I think this is going to be something you're going to leave off
• 1:12:33
  with the audience and give them some advice Lizzy what's one lesson you learned the hard way
• 1:12:43
  hmm don't do reality TV come back to me okay Ira okay what's one lesson you learned the hard way
• 1:12:59
  I think in I'll say what I've learned in our relationship okay is that you can't as much as
• 1:13:15
  she would like to say like I'm the driver behind her I'm really not I'll put ideas in her head
• 1:13:20
  and even though I think think some ideas are really good and I think that she should do or do
• 1:13:29
  certain things or say certain things is that unless she feels passionate about it and she believes
• 1:13:36
  in it herself then it's not gonna she either won't do it or it's not going to it's not going to
• 1:13:45
  resonate so for example like you know I think she should run for a political office
• 1:13:52
  because I think she'd be great but she needs to believe that herself in order for it to be
• 1:13:59
  successful so I you know I think I've stopped pushing and I'll she says no it's true
• 1:14:07
  every day I wake up tired you're ready to make history today Lizzy
• 1:14:11
  every single day see I'm an eternal optimist and I really I really believe in in in her but also a lot of things
• 1:14:20
  like I think just do you do that's what you need that's what you need you need you need the
• 1:14:28
  realistic music Lizzy and then I bring back to reality and I'm like Zoli calm down who told you
• 1:14:34
  to become a real estate agent I mean you okay who told you to start a podcast like okay like you
• 1:14:41
  need you need that optimist guy I opened up on Park Avenue like out of the gate people were like
• 1:14:48
  is he nuts and he's yeah you have to be nuts you have to be a little you have to be a little
• 1:14:54
  oh I mean he's absolutely insane for I mean I'm the one who told you that you're never going to
• 1:15:00
  make money on TikTok yes this is right and and you have jokes on you so neurotic and obsessed with
• 1:15:09
  social media like Zoli is to be able to do what he does yeah and I think I'll answer this question
• 1:15:16
  myself what's one lesson that I learned the hard way is like you have to like believe in yourself
• 1:15:25
  I guess in like even if it's like not true like like I have to
• 1:15:31
  have this like imposter syndrome and like up until a certain point which was very recently
• 1:15:38
  like I didn't have that yeah and I think you've had it for I mean look at our president
• 1:15:44
  up literally look at our president yeah if you tell people the who you are that that's a
• 1:15:54
  go believe right like but not only that it manifests itself like I was very stressed out I would
• 1:16:03
  say a month ago some working on a couple of deals and I literally kept telling myself like
• 1:16:10
  by January like X this is gonna happen and like I just kept like telling myself that and like
• 1:16:17
  this little monster inside of me this little real estate monster sign me I'm just like telling this
• 1:16:21
  person what to do and I'm getting like more aggressive and I'm just like pretending like as if like
• 1:16:26
  I'm gonna make it happen because I'm the one who's in control of that sure enough it did they got
• 1:16:34
  it's happening so when getting the blue check on Instagram was the thing I did I tell you
• 1:16:43
  that I did I did this for you too you remember that I did this I took a picture of my Instagram
• 1:16:50
  profile and Photoshopped a blue check and the next day I got it I was like I'm gonna man I'm
• 1:16:57
  just gonna act like I already have it I'm gonna see what it looks like so I'll know what it
• 1:17:01
  looks like when I have it and then I got it that's okay and yeah but it was like so hard to get
• 1:17:06
  but it's true like if you believe it you have to be crazy enough to believe oh I believe in a
• 1:17:11
  lot of things but then they somehow like they're all coming true not you have to put it out there
• 1:17:16
  like for me for example like you know I want to be you know a facelift surgeon in New York City
• 1:17:23
  and like you have to just put it out there like this is what I do this is what I want to be and
• 1:17:28
  like you said like you know like you know the current president like you have to put it out there
• 1:17:35
  like you know and and it's manifestation but it's also you have to put the energy into it
• 1:17:40
  I think the lesson that I've learned the hard way is about comparing myself to other people
• 1:17:48
  in the field and because all it did for me and it's so hard and especially like in the social media
• 1:17:55
  space but all it ever did for me was cheap and the good stuff because I was trying to you know
• 1:18:05
  fit into that I was trying to be a fashion blogger and so I was trying to pose like those girls
• 1:18:09
  and I was trying to wear the outfits like those girls and then you know in the beginning with
• 1:18:13
  the video I think that they that was the best gift was that there was not a lot of people in
• 1:18:24
  the Jewish activist space when I started doing this full time in 2021 so it was sort of like
• 1:18:29
  I didn't have anyone to look to for how to do it and so I had to just be myself you're the OG
• 1:18:35
  well I don't know if I'm the OG but then I had to just be myself and I feel like that's when I
• 1:18:40
  realized like my and once I started just completely being on apologetically myself I saw I was
• 1:18:47
  getting way more opportunities way more followers way more approval all the things that I had
• 1:18:54
  wanted that I had been trying so desperately to get by trying to fit into you know whatever
• 1:19:00
  one else is doing you know it just never worked yeah and you know and I think also the best gift for
• 1:19:08
  me for my life but for also for my career has getting sober because I am now so clear
• 1:19:16
  right and I know like I I know my strengths and my weaknesses and such a clear man I mean because
• 1:19:24
  I'm a recovering up a home like I was numbing all that stuff out for so long and I feel like
• 1:19:30
  now like I don't even have the ability to do that so I'm just focused all right he's amazing
• 1:19:39
  well guys what a positive way to great right it has been very informative it almost
• 1:19:45
  feel like we should do a part two at some point we should maybe we'll do maybe we'll do dinner
• 1:19:50
  maybe we'll do part two maybe we'll be a new we were supposed to go to dinner like a bunch of
• 1:19:54
  times already like we have to be the first time we're meeting as a couple is on a podcast
• 1:19:58
  I know I know I know very very we have the first meeting on camera yeah wonderful
• 1:20:03
  fans and people to see I've had so much fun with all of you and now you're going to your day
• 1:20:09
  job I have to show a house now which I really hope I'll sell today because she's had the listening
• 1:20:15
  for a while I've had I've had the listening for a little bit you know I already know I'm going
• 1:20:19
  to sell it at some point and by the way I manifested this listing that I have now from a previous
• 1:20:23
  listing that I had and I'm like I'm gonna get that you're gonna get it and I got that was the
• 1:20:26
  listing so I'm gonna eventually sell it I know I will because I also know the right people who
• 1:20:32
  will probably buy it whatever you got to go anyways I got to go but thank you Lizzy and I
• 1:20:37
  wrote for being here thank you thank you for having me for making this all happen thank you
• 1:20:41
  Zoli and make us look really pretty yeah make us look good always make sure I don't
• 1:20:45
  that's anyways oh my god wait yeah okay perfect thanks guys see you next time peace
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  Pala Tati