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Mason Miller’s trade journey from A’s to Padres, Joe Ryan trade error · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Andre's reliever Mason Miller joining us. You've got Pierzinski and
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Speaker 1: Lance Lynn on the show today, Mason, So got a
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Speaker 1: fun crew. Good to have you on. How did that
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Speaker 1: sound when I just introduced you?
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Speaker 2: You used to that? You like that padres?
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Speaker 3: They're still getting used to it, still getting used to it,
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Speaker 3: but it's got a nice ring to it for sure,
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Speaker 3: And you know, settling in first first three games and
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Speaker 3: we're on the road, so getting getting acclimated.
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Speaker 4: And feeling good.
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Speaker 2: How was the weekend long for you?
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Speaker 3: The weekend was fantastic. I mean it was chaos every
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Speaker 3: second of it, for sure, but I really enjoyed it
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Speaker 3: and felt some things on the mound that I haven't felt,
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Speaker 3: you know, so far in my career.
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Speaker 5: Mason, How long do you think until you'll understand when
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Speaker 5: people introduce you? No more Sacramento Athletics. You're now a
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Speaker 5: San Diego padre where they actually sell out every night
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Speaker 5: in Petco with like forty thousand. They sent a new
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Speaker 5: record every single night. They had one person every day,
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Speaker 5: so they're like, oh, yesterday forty thousand to one, today
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Speaker 5: we're gonna have forty thousand and two. Like, how long
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Speaker 5: do you think until you will finally realize that, Man,
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Speaker 5: I am a San Diego Padre.
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Speaker 3: Now I felt like getting into the game that first time,
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Speaker 3: you know, was the big hurdle.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: Now it's kind of the you know, pinch yourself a
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Speaker 3: little bit when you walk out there and you know
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Speaker 3: the stadium's packed out. You know, there's just energy and buzz,
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Speaker 3: you know, from the moment the first pitch is thrown
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Speaker 3: or even before that. So it's definitely been a Swiss
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Speaker 3: for me. But I'm really loving it.
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Speaker 6: Hey, going back to you went from playing your most
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Speaker 6: of your home games in the minor league Triple A Ballpark.
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Speaker 6: Now your home games are going to be there. Does
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Speaker 6: it feel like you kind of made it back to
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Speaker 6: the big leagues a little bit? Or is is it
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Speaker 6: gonna be a little bit more pressure or was just
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Speaker 6: excitement ready to go?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 4: I would say excitement for sure.
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Speaker 3: It was an adjustment playing playing there this year, But
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Speaker 3: you know, I think after a certain point, you know
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Speaker 3: that adjustment has to be made and it's just playing ball.
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Speaker 3: So uh, the atmosphere obviously is different, but you know,
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Speaker 3: we'd made that mental mental adjustment there in Sacramento, and
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Speaker 3: you know, we were playing big League baseball games, even
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Speaker 3: if the atmosphere didn't feel that way.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I have to ask about Sacramento because you know,
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Speaker 5: Savarino's had all his comments other players, Was the mound
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Speaker 5: that bad? Was the mountain? Because other people have said
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Speaker 5: the same thing, like, is the mound really that bad?
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Speaker 4: For me?
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Speaker 3: I didn't mind it as much. They did do some
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Speaker 3: work on it earlier in the year. It was pretty hard.
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Speaker 3: But when it bakes in the sun all day, even
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Speaker 3: though it cools down at night, it's it's going to
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Speaker 3: be pretty firm. For me visually, just the single level
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Speaker 3: broadcast booths was what threw me off the most. Going from,
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Speaker 3: you know, a big league stadium backdrop to that was
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Speaker 3: was the bigger difference for me. The mound the mountain
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Speaker 3: really didn't bother me.
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Speaker 6: Hey, now that you're over in San Diego, have you
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Speaker 6: talked to Shield about what the roles might be, how
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Speaker 6: it might play out, or is it kind of just
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Speaker 6: go game by game? I know Shild usually has a
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Speaker 6: plan in place, and he has always been really good
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Speaker 6: at communicating.
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Speaker 4: What do you got forced there? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so far, you know, we've we've had discussions, and
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Speaker 3: you know, I think everybody has has kind of came
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Speaker 3: to the same conclusion that everybody has the same goal
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Speaker 3: of wanting to make it to October and make a
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Speaker 3: deep run and compete for a World Series and whatever
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Speaker 3: that role is.
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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I'm prepared to do that.
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Speaker 3: I know that these guys have had a lot of
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Speaker 3: success here, so it's kind of figuring out how I
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Speaker 3: fit into that equation while also keeping everybody fresh and
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Speaker 3: and you know, primed for for a nice run this
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Speaker 3: off season or going into the playoffs this year.
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Speaker 5: Mason, you know you want to be on the mound
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Speaker 5: in the night and come on, dude, It's okay, It's okay.
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Speaker 5: Listen to is great, but we all know we've you know,
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Speaker 5: the adrenaline. We saw you out on Friday night when
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Speaker 5: you got you got out there, the emotion. So it's
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Speaker 5: okay to say, hey, I want to close. It's okay,
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Speaker 5: You'll figure it out.
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Speaker 3: I mean I told I told Mike when we talked,
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Speaker 3: I said, I'm comfortable in the ninth inning, and you know,
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Speaker 3: I've been closing for a year and a half now.
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Speaker 3: But you know, coming to this this team at this time,
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Speaker 3: and you know, in this this playoff push you know,
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Speaker 3: it's not my spot to be disruptive to what this
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Speaker 3: team's got going on, and they have a lot of
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Speaker 3: good things going on, so we want to supplement that.
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Speaker 3: You know, not only myself, but the other trade pieces
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Speaker 3: we got as well. So you know they know that
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Speaker 3: that I am comfortable in that role. But you know
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Speaker 3: I am prepared to pitch the eighth seventh, you know,
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Speaker 3: whenever I can to get us to that get just
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Speaker 3: get us to the ninth inning and get a win.
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Speaker 4: You know, that's all that matters.
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Speaker 5: You ain't you ain't pitching the seventh. Don't worry, you
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Speaker 5: ain't pitching the seventh. Let's just get that out there
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Speaker 5: right now. You ain't pitching the seventh, all right. So
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Speaker 5: I want to know how you found out about the trade.
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Speaker 5: Did anybody in the athletics come to you and say, hey,
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Speaker 5: this is a real possibility for you and seers or
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Speaker 5: did you just kind of find out like everyone else
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Speaker 5: is a surprise. Did you know this was coming because
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Speaker 5: I was never traded during the season, so I don't
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Speaker 5: know how that goes. But does someone call you in
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Speaker 5: the office say hey, Mason, listen because you missed the game,
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Speaker 5: right you missed the game the night before and Cottsay said, oh,
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Speaker 5: you're a healthy scratch. So is that your first inclination
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Speaker 5: that you were going to possibly to be traded.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the rumors. The rumors are what they are,
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Speaker 3: so you kind of have an idea. You just never
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Speaker 3: know what how much weight they hold. My agent had
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Speaker 3: been speaking with Forced, and we knew that there was
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Speaker 3: a possibility. San Diego obviously didn't seem like the right
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Speaker 3: fit just based on what kind of package they could
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Speaker 3: put together initially, so they weren't something that we expected.
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Speaker 3: But you know, come Wednesday, I didn't find out till
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Speaker 3: the eighth inning that I was a healthy scratch. You know,
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Speaker 3: it's a safe situation, and COT's called our bullpen coach,
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Speaker 3: Hubby put the phone up to my ear and said,
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Speaker 3: you know you're not available tonight.
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Speaker 4: I can't pitch you. Sorry.
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Speaker 3: And then I spoke with Force that night and he said,
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Speaker 3: nothing's done yet, but that's all I have for you
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Speaker 3: right now. So I felt like, if you're holding me
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Speaker 3: out of a game, there's got to be a pretty
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Speaker 3: good chance that the deals, you know, ninety five percent
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Speaker 3: of the way there.
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Speaker 4: And then found out the next morning with a phone call.
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Speaker 2: So, you know, with the way the conversations were going.
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Speaker 1: And I'll add that the Padres already had one of
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Speaker 1: the better bullpens in baseball, including you know, at least
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Speaker 1: four guys that you could fill in for most teams
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Speaker 1: as an eighth or ninth inning man. Were you surprised
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Speaker 1: when you heard that it was actually going to be
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Speaker 1: San Diego versus any other club?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think we've all seen the track
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Speaker 3: record AJ has had at the deadline, and he's not
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Speaker 3: scared to make any moves. So, you know, I consider
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Speaker 3: myself blessed, and you know, I'm really grateful that they
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Speaker 3: thought as highly of me as they did to put
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Speaker 3: together the package they did and get me there. And
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking forward to to helping them impact
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Speaker 3: this bush and you know, pitching to the postseason.
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Speaker 6: I know. So I have unfortunately been trained at the
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Speaker 6: deadline a couple of times, as AJ was so good
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Speaker 6: they never got rid of him at the deadline, or
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Speaker 6: he was always on a team that was just barely
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Speaker 6: enough in it. I don't really know what he was doing.
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Speaker 6: But what's it like the fans? What's like? Because it's
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Speaker 6: different man you gotta gotta go pack up, You've gotta
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Speaker 6: get all your stuff ready. What was kind of the
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Speaker 6: most chaotic part of getting yourself all packed up and
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Speaker 6: getting out of there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, fortunately the A's were off Thursday, the
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Speaker 3: deadline day, as were the Padres, so I kind of
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Speaker 3: got a little bit extra time. It wasn't as chaotic,
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Speaker 3: maybe as some guys have had it, where it's you
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Speaker 3: get traded and you're on a flight in a couple hours.
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Speaker 4: I took a flight the next.
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Speaker 3: Morning, But really it's just the fallout of it where
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Speaker 3: you kind of just feel like kind of stuck in time,
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Speaker 3: like you know it's happening, but you know you're not
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Speaker 3: leaving yet, and you're just kind of throwing everything in bags,
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Speaker 3: and you know, you kind of kind of felt like
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Speaker 3: and planned that you were going to be somewhere for
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Speaker 3: the rest of the season, obviously knowing there's a chance
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Speaker 3: to be traded, but you know, once it happens, it's
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Speaker 3: just kind of like everything starts speeding up on you.
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Speaker 3: And I just felt like as soon as I got
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Speaker 3: down here and you know, got outside and got the
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Speaker 3: throw and feel like a ballplayer again, you know that
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Speaker 3: kind of kind of put my brain at ease.
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Speaker 4: A little bit.
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Speaker 3: But it's still just housing all your stuff, family, just
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Speaker 3: just the logistics of all of it.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: Fortunately it's you know, northern California to southern California.
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Speaker 4: That could be could be a lot more distance between
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Speaker 4: the two teams.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 1: Did you get to say goodbye to your teammates or
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Speaker 1: because you had the off day, you didn't really have
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Speaker 1: the time with them in the clubhouse.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, it wasn't like an official thing unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: and that that is one of the parts that that's
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Speaker 3: kind of sucked about it.
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Speaker 4: But you know, I said by to some guys Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: After I got held out of the game, you know,
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Speaker 3: just kind of knowing like, hey, I might see Friday,
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Speaker 3: but if not, you know, thanks for thanks for being
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Speaker 3: a great, great teammate and you know, I love playing
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Speaker 3: with you. Definitely bittersweet for me because I was drafted
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Speaker 3: by the A's, came up with them, played with a
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Speaker 3: lot of those guys for several years now. But you
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Speaker 3: know that's it doesn't compare really to the to the
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Speaker 3: opportunity to go play for post season baseball, and you
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Speaker 3: know that's what we all do is you know, compete
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Speaker 3: and it feels it felt like Opening Day again, like
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Speaker 3: the excitement and you know, the drive and just just
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Speaker 3: the willing you or the willingness and expectation to show
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Speaker 3: up to the field each day and you know, I
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Speaker 1: Okay, So then take me through that first, you know,
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Speaker 1: twelve hour stretch. You get into the new clubhouse right
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Speaker 1: with the team, like who's coming up to you and
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Speaker 1: saying what? Right, there's some guys that have been there
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Speaker 1: for a while, some veteran guys too, and then all
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Speaker 1: the way through your appearance, you know, I was glued
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Speaker 1: into that game.
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Speaker 2: I think a couple knocks, there's.
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Speaker 1: Some pressure, Machado makes a sweet play for the double play.
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Speaker 1: You're fired up. I think you know a rise like
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Speaker 1: did a ten out of ten? Split the whole deal?
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Speaker 1: So what was that whole experience like from entering clubhouse
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Speaker 1: through end of appearance?
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Speaker 2: Take a deep breath.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean really, even since before I got there,
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Speaker 3: you know, everybody's just been so so welcoming and so
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Speaker 3: excited to have us here. So it's it's felt natural.
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Speaker 3: You know, everybody in the club us has been super cool,
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Speaker 3: super welcoming. Yeah, it's a tight knit group for sure,
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Speaker 3: and they have a lot of fun and they played
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Speaker 3: great baseball. So it's a fantastic combination and a locker
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Speaker 3: room that you definitely want to be a part of.
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Speaker 3: So really just dealing with all the meeting everybody one
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty names, you know, quiz tomorrow that I'm
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Speaker 3: definitely failing type of thing trying to remember everybody's name,
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Speaker 3: but you know, meeting all the.
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Speaker 4: Guys and hanging out a little bit.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm handling all the media and trying to
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Speaker 3: go about your day and have some semblance of normalcy,
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Speaker 3: trying to find that before the game. So you had
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Speaker 3: had like an hour before the game where I felt
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Speaker 3: like I could breathe a little bit, chill, get ready
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Speaker 3: for it. And then I was really happy to get
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Speaker 3: in there that first night too, because obviously when you
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Speaker 3: get somewhere near you're you're anxious to get in there
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Speaker 3: and you know, play with the boys and throw up
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Speaker 3: a zero in my case, So working through a couple
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Speaker 3: of hits and fantastic defense behind me, you know, just
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Speaker 3: the atmosphere coming into the game with something I've never
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Speaker 3: felt felt like my hair was standing up. Probably the
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Speaker 3: closest it's felt was my debut just in terms of nerves.
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Speaker 3: But you know, feeling that every time you go in
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Speaker 3: the games, that's a crazy feeling.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a beautiful feeling. Back into the bullpen. My
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Speaker 6: question to you, has there ever been or has there
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Speaker 6: been any talk about the possibility and maybe in the
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Speaker 6: future going to starting I know that the Padres themselves
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Speaker 6: have some guys coming off the book. Is that something
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Speaker 6: you would be interested in or is it right now
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Speaker 6: just kind of hey, I'm here doing this right now
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Speaker 6: and then see where it takes me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think all focuses on this year and pitching out
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Speaker 3: of the bullpen. That's not to say down the road
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Speaker 3: we can't can't revisit and have conversations and you know,
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Speaker 3: being being able to think about and say that I'll
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Speaker 3: be here for four and a half years, you know,
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Speaker 3: I think that that's that's super exciting and I think
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Speaker 3: there are possibilities of that, But for the time being,
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Speaker 3: the focus is one hundred percent on this season and
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Speaker 3: having success and in the bullpen down there and being
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Speaker 3: you know, pulling my weight in terms of this this
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Speaker 3: top bullpen.
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Speaker 6: Mason.
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Speaker 5: How much did it help to have jpcies go with you?
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Speaker 5: How much did that help to have a guy that
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Speaker 5: you knew that you were tight with that went from
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Speaker 5: from I almost caught him Oakland from Sacramento to San Diego.
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Speaker 5: That has to help, right When you have a teammate
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Speaker 5: that's on the same plane and everything with you and
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Speaker 5: then walks into clubhouse with you, it's got.
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Speaker 4: To be a huge Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know, JP and I had lockers next to each
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Speaker 3: other and and Sacramento, so I've definitely known each other for.
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Speaker 4: A couple of years. Good friends.
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Speaker 3: Very reassuring for me, but but more so I think
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Speaker 3: for both of our wives also, just you know, being
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Speaker 3: being in it together a little bit, and you know,
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Speaker 3: having spent these past couple of seasons together and you know,
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Speaker 3: you pick up and move your life, and you know,
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Speaker 3: for us it's kind of easy, just lean into the
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Speaker 3: game and you know, uh, it kind of sorts itself out.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes for your families it's it's a little bit more challenging.
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Speaker 3: So I think having having the two of us come
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Speaker 3: together was was really a blessing, especially for me and
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Speaker 3: my wife, being our first time getting traded.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, people forget this awesome involves wives and kids and
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Speaker 5: families and not just the players. So yeah, shout out
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Speaker 5: to wives who help you, you know, move now. By
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Speaker 5: the way, two quick things before you let you go. One,
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Speaker 5: it was super awesome the picture you took with the
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Speaker 5: kid with type one diabetes. That was an awesome photo.
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Speaker 5: So kudos to you for doing that. People that don't
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Speaker 5: know your story, they can google it. We're not going
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Speaker 5: to get into We've got into it a year before.
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Speaker 5: So that was awesome you did that. And then lastly
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Speaker 5: there's the picture that's pretty awesome. You did that, and
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Speaker 5: you know, good luck to that kid and with everything.
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Speaker 5: But before we let you go, I have to ask
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Speaker 5: this question. We had Nick Kurtz on last week. Who's
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Speaker 5: the rookie of the year, Jacob Wilson or Nick Kurts.
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Speaker 3: And it's going to come down to these last two
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Speaker 3: months for sure. That's the exciting part about that team.
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Speaker 3: You know, if Nick keeps hitting home runs, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if Jacob can keep up with that.
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Speaker 3: But you know, both of them are having just such
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Speaker 3: fantastic season at such you know, young ages, you know,
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Speaker 3: removed from from the draft and you know, just learning
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Speaker 3: so much and what it takes to to take the
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Speaker 3: field each day and and stay on it. You know,
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Speaker 3: I know Jacob got hit with a pitch and you
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Speaker 3: know it was kind of grinding through it a little bit.
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Speaker 3: But you know, I hope he comes back and be
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Speaker 3: able to finish up the season strong. You know, both
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Speaker 3: those guys have really bright futures and you know, not
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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to pitching to the A's, but you know,
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Speaker 3: maybe maybe not to those guys, especially Nick.
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Speaker 4: So we'll see.
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Speaker 5: Nick is ridiculous the way, By the way, what a
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Speaker 5: veteran what veteran answers Mason has? By the way, He's like,
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Speaker 5: you know, I hope they both can win and split
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Speaker 5: the award because they.
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Speaker 6: Time, there's a lot of ball left, you know, a
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Speaker 6: lot of ball left. Who how did you know? You
15:46
Speaker 6: just answered it? Though he just answered who he does
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Speaker 6: want to face, so that might who?
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Speaker 4: The answer is, I gotta guard. I gotta guard the homer,
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Speaker 4: you know, I hear you.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can get to one nothing real quick? True?
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Speaker 5: How did you not win Rookie of Year?
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Speaker 4: Was it?
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Speaker 5: Because twenty three counted as your rookie year.
16:02
Speaker 6: Is that why you weren't?
16:05
Speaker 3: I think I was Rookie of the Year eligible last
16:07
Speaker 3: year I finished fourth.
16:10
Speaker 5: I think kind of mind boggling to me that you were.
16:13
Speaker 3: I think I think there's I think there's always, like
16:16
Speaker 3: you know, pre arbitration, pool war, all that stuff. You know,
16:19
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of disparity just in terms of
16:21
Speaker 3: you know, everyday players and relievers. You know, it's it's
16:25
Speaker 3: hard to value a guy that's throwing one inning versus
16:28
Speaker 3: the guy that's playing nine. You know, but I think
16:31
Speaker 3: everybody that knows the game knows that. You know, as
16:34
Speaker 3: you come down this stretch and you get into the
16:35
Speaker 3: postseason that you know, I think championships are oftentimes won
16:39
Speaker 3: and lost by what a bullpen can do. But you know,
16:43
Speaker 3: those guys oftentimes, just in terms of statistically devaluing, just
16:49
Speaker 3: just doesn't seem to necessarily line up. But that's kind
16:52
Speaker 3: of the way it is. And you know, it's just
16:55
Speaker 3: my opinion.
16:55
Speaker 1: I guess, no, your spot I mean, I think you're
16:58
Speaker 1: spot on, Mason. I mean, you know a lot of
17:00
Speaker 1: front offices have their version of war right, which we
17:02
Speaker 1: use publicly, but that is used very often in front offices.
17:05
Speaker 1: I know that for a fact, or their proprietary version
17:08
Speaker 1: of it, and it often doesn't give as much credit
17:10
Speaker 1: to relievers. And then what's the most popular phone call
17:13
Speaker 1: last week? Hey, we need a high leverage arm and
17:15
Speaker 1: thirty believers that moved, so we can do the math
17:18
Speaker 1: there in terms of who actually is commanding a ton
17:21
Speaker 1: of prospects, I'm with you.
17:22
Speaker 5: Give me a guy those one hundred and my ninth inning.
17:25
Speaker 5: I'll take my chances more than more than not. Give
17:27
Speaker 5: me a guy with a ninety mine our slider and
17:29
Speaker 5: one hundred and two mon our heater that can throw
17:31
Speaker 5: it over the plate. I'll take my chances to win
17:33
Speaker 5: a lot of games.
17:34
Speaker 3: I agree, And we got we got a couple of
17:36
Speaker 3: guys that can run it up there. So yeah, I
17:39
Speaker 3: think we're gonna be thrown up a lot of zeros.
17:42
Speaker 1: Mason, last one, are you gonna have you been taught
17:44
Speaker 1: already to snarl at the Dodgers? I mean, you're entering
17:47
Speaker 1: what I think is the biggest rivalry in the sport
17:49
Speaker 1: right now in terms of two teams that actually have
17:52
Speaker 1: like serious juice with some track record to it even
17:56
Speaker 1: this year.
17:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, they told me he told me
18:00
Speaker 3: right away. You know, obviously you know there we we
18:03
Speaker 3: don't like those guys a whole lot. I haven't had
18:05
Speaker 3: a I haven't really had a rivalry to that extent.
18:08
Speaker 4: You know.
18:08
Speaker 3: You know, they's play play the marriage, play the Astros
18:11
Speaker 3: a lot, and you know a lot of close games,
18:13
Speaker 3: and you know we want to win those more than others.
18:15
Speaker 3: But you know, not not a rivalry to the sense
18:18
Speaker 3: of you know, the Padres and the Dodgers. So I'm
18:21
Speaker 3: excited to experience that. You know, definitely gonna be a
18:25
Speaker 3: lot of eye opening experiences going forward, just just with
18:28
Speaker 3: playing in front of all these fans and playing these
18:31
Speaker 3: big rivalry games that that means so much.
18:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, mid August coming soon, AJ's calling one of those games,
18:37
Speaker 1: so you'll see him then, right AJ the second series, there's.
18:39
Speaker 2: Two in August, the one in San Diego. Yep, Yeah,
18:43
Speaker 2: so twenty third, you'll see him the way because.
18:46
Speaker 6: JP is starting night.
18:47
Speaker 5: We didn't even ask I mean, we asked you a
18:48
Speaker 5: little bit. But how excited to see it's his first
18:51
Speaker 5: start tonight against Arizona.
18:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's excited.
18:55
Speaker 3: You know, he obviously similarly didn't know exactly how he
18:58
Speaker 3: was going to fall fall, getting here and kind of
19:01
Speaker 3: getting getting down here, throwing a bullpen, figuring out when
19:04
Speaker 3: he was going to start, So similarly to me getting
19:06
Speaker 3: in my first game.
19:07
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's amp to do that tonight.
19:10
Speaker 3: And he's said he's had some relationships with guys, you know,
19:13
Speaker 3: dating back to his days with the Yankees. So I
19:16
Speaker 3: definitely excited to be here, and you know, we're both
19:18
Speaker 3: with super pumped for this.
19:20
Speaker 4: This next push here.
19:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to take off. I'm excited.
19:23
Speaker 1: He's had good stuff, so this will be cool. Mason,
19:25
Speaker 1: This was fun, man, Thanks for catching up with us.
19:27
Speaker 1: Fans really appreciate. It's great to talk to a guy
19:30
Speaker 1: once the dust settles after a few days. Bringing on
19:32
Speaker 1: post trade, we'll catch you down the road. Okay, sounds good, guys,
19:36
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lance. Tell us more about what Mason's going through. Right,
19:40
Speaker 1: So you've, I think you mentioned, been traded at least
19:43
Speaker 1: a couple of times from a non contender to a contender.
19:46
Speaker 2: Are you first off, besides.
19:48
Speaker 1: The annoyingness of the move going, hell yeah, I got
19:51
Speaker 1: to make a playoff push here and try to get
19:53
Speaker 1: one of those fancy rings.
19:55
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it's exciting it's exciting, right, You're usually coming
19:58
Speaker 6: from a team that's not going to and that is
20:00
Speaker 6: I went to New York one time and went to
20:03
Speaker 6: the Dodgers in the next. So both big markets, both
20:06
Speaker 6: expect a lot from you. Both kind of hectic, but
20:10
Speaker 6: you know, you get everything kind of packed up, you
20:12
Speaker 6: ship everything you need and make sure you can get
20:14
Speaker 6: the wife and the kids there. So there's sense of
20:19
Speaker 6: being so excited, but there's also being a sense of like,
20:22
Speaker 6: all right, how am I going to get everybody where
20:24
Speaker 6: we need to go? And then how am I going
20:25
Speaker 6: to get ready to pitch? So it can be really
20:27
Speaker 6: hectic but really exciting at the same time.
20:31
Speaker 2: Not asking you a JA, you don't know, you don't
20:33
Speaker 2: have experience with this.
20:37
Speaker 6: Oh I don't, Oh I don't. The worst part of
20:40
Speaker 6: any of my trades was I had to shave my
20:42
Speaker 6: beard that one year when I was going to the Yankees.
20:44
Speaker 6: They were like, hey, you got traded to the Yankees,
20:46
Speaker 6: and I was small at or told me. I was like, damn,
20:48
Speaker 6: I got to shave. And then I went and got
20:51
Speaker 6: a shave and got packed up and was rolling a
20:53
Speaker 6: God did I look terrible? But yeah, that was probably
20:56
Speaker 6: the probably the worst part of that trade for.
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Speaker 2: Go for it. I love that open spreading rumors.
22:08
Speaker 1: So Joe Ryan is the last remaining Minnesota twin everyone
22:13
Speaker 1: else got traded. Even Griffin Jackson requested one. We'll get
22:17
Speaker 1: to that in a moment. Joe Ryan fell for some news.
22:20
Speaker 1: It started to circulate quickly on social slants that he
22:24
Speaker 1: had been dealt, but that actually was not to the case.
22:27
Speaker 1: So I first off feel bad when the actual human
22:31
Speaker 1: being that sees this thinks they've been dealt and then
22:34
Speaker 1: find out that they actually haven't been dealt. It's not
22:37
Speaker 1: like it was a crazy thought because forty percent of
22:40
Speaker 1: the roster was traded the other day.
22:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously, when everybody starts to go and you feel
22:45
Speaker 6: and you hear your name or something comes out, you
22:48
Speaker 6: automatically think that it's true. It's not the first time
22:51
Speaker 6: I've seen someone hear about it on line or on
22:55
Speaker 6: TV or something like that. I was having breakfast with
22:57
Speaker 6: Alan Craig years ago when he got traded to Boss
23:00
Speaker 6: and him and Joe Kelly, and we found out on
23:02
Speaker 6: the bottom of the TV. It just came across, so
23:06
Speaker 6: I'm but obviously it wasn't true. So you know, you
23:09
Speaker 6: got to there's so many rumors out there, a lot
23:11
Speaker 6: of things flying off the table, so you know there's
23:15
Speaker 6: one And when I was in Chicago, I thought I
23:17
Speaker 6: was getting traded to the race, and I had a
23:20
Speaker 6: no trade to him, so I was like, hey, am
23:21
Speaker 6: I getting traded and They're like no. But everyone was
23:24
Speaker 6: texting me like hey, welcome to the race, and I
23:26
Speaker 6: was like, I've not been traded. So it does happen.
23:29
Speaker 6: It is and it's and it's definitely weird when you
23:31
Speaker 6: have to go into the team and be like, I
23:33
Speaker 6: guess I'm not traded.
23:35
Speaker 5: I was there for the allin Craig Joe Kelly, I was.
23:37
Speaker 5: I told that story many times. So it's crazy.
23:40
Speaker 4: Though.
23:40
Speaker 5: We've gotten to the point where players now found out
23:43
Speaker 5: find out on their phone and on Twitter rather than
23:44
Speaker 5: from the manager and the general manager. That that to
23:47
Speaker 5: me is insanity. So I don't know how we fix this.
23:50
Speaker 5: I feel like there's got to be a better way
23:53
Speaker 5: to do this. I don't know what it is, but yeah,
23:56
Speaker 5: finding out on your phone or finding out through Twitter
23:58
Speaker 5: or whatever, and then people getting it wrong. Here's the
24:01
Speaker 5: other problem. People are trying to jump the gun so
24:03
Speaker 5: much because of Twitter and because of social media that
24:05
Speaker 5: they don't actually get the stories right and they just
24:08
Speaker 5: want to be first. And that's why when you see
24:11
Speaker 5: guys like Ken Rosenthal that usually are almost always two
24:14
Speaker 5: three sources before they confirm something and put it out there.
24:18
Speaker 5: That's why they might not be first, but they're usually right.
24:20
Speaker 5: So we need to figure out a way to also
24:22
Speaker 5: be right before things because it's going to affect people.
24:24
Speaker 5: And Joe Ryan was probably as shocked as anybody that
24:26
Speaker 5: he didn't get traded because, like you said, Scott, the
24:29
Speaker 5: whole team went by by pretty much except for him
24:31
Speaker 5: and Buxton and Pablo Lopez is on the IL.
24:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, fans aren't necessarily paying attention the way
24:40
Speaker 1: that we are, at least some aren't. But there are
24:41
Speaker 1: certain people insider wise that you feel really good about,
24:45
Speaker 1: and there are others that you wait on for confirmation
24:50
Speaker 1: from the big boys. Let's be real here, there are
24:53
Speaker 1: some superstars in our industry on that front, just like
24:57
Speaker 1: there are in basically anything right, some that are i
25:01
Speaker 1: would say, seriously more talented and more connected than others.
25:05
Speaker 2: That's part of it.
25:06
Speaker 1: But as far as the solution, AJ, I don't know
25:09
Speaker 1: if we're gonna find one because the big boys, the
25:12
Speaker 1: ones who break news, are so good at getting it
25:15
Speaker 1: so quickly that it's almost impossible for a GM to
25:18
Speaker 1: get a deal done and make phone calls to everybody
25:21
Speaker 1: that's involved in the trade.
25:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, but at least call the players. You can't call
25:26
Speaker 5: you call the players first.
25:28
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, But my point is, sometimes, dude, sometimes trade
25:32
Speaker 1: gets how least money and insiders crack it right away.
25:35
Speaker 2: How is he supposed to make five phone calls and
25:38
Speaker 2: trade deadline? Wait?
25:39
Speaker 1: Think about this trade deadline the Twins, they would have
25:41
Speaker 1: had to spend a day making phone calls to everybody
25:44
Speaker 1: that they traded.
25:45
Speaker 5: Scott, you have more than one person in the front office.
25:47
Speaker 5: You don't just have the front office. It takes thirty
25:50
Speaker 5: seconds to pick up the phone. Like when Joe Kelly
25:53
Speaker 5: and Alan Craig got traded, right, it take five seconds
25:55
Speaker 5: for John Mozilla to call Mike Metheni and say, hurry up,
25:58
Speaker 5: get Kelly and Alan Craig in office. We're trading them.
26:01
Speaker 5: It would have taken five seconds telling they're traded to
26:04
Speaker 5: Boston and I'll call them later. We're too busy, right.
26:07
Speaker 5: They understand that. Players understand that, but like, don't let
26:09
Speaker 5: you shouldn't have players finding out? How did and centers
26:11
Speaker 5: find out before the teams before players? That shouldn't happen
26:14
Speaker 5: I'm sorry it should not happen.
26:17
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of leaks, which
26:19
Speaker 6: I think that's the number one way to clean it up. Right,
26:22
Speaker 6: If you clean up those little leaks, whether it's in
26:24
Speaker 6: organizations or with with agents and stuff like that, then
26:29
Speaker 6: you can clean that up to where where no player
26:31
Speaker 6: gets uh gets blindsided. And then Alan Craig thing, I
26:35
Speaker 6: remember Lacki's saying he knew the night before that it
26:37
Speaker 6: was probably gonna go down. So somehow, some way, certain
26:40
Speaker 6: things got to be passed through physical wise and stuff
26:44
Speaker 6: like that, that other teams are a little bit ahead
26:46
Speaker 6: of another team and stuff like that. So, yes, it
26:50
Speaker 6: needs to be cleaned up. And I think a lot
26:52
Speaker 6: of it has to do with leaks. League sources, front offices,
26:56
Speaker 6: they've got they've you know, they've got their little people.
26:58
Speaker 6: They try to get things out so they might write
27:01
Speaker 6: some nice things about them. So if you can clean
27:03
Speaker 6: that up, then you won't get the false story coming
27:05
Speaker 6: out or the jump the gun story as some things
27:09
Speaker 6: might happen.
27:10
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the other rumor about the
27:14
Speaker 1: Twins from the past week that is a in my mind,
27:18
Speaker 1: feel good story.
27:20
Speaker 2: Griffin Jacks requested a trade. This according to a story.
27:24
Speaker 1: From Dan Hayes and the Athletic and the twins were like, okay,
27:31
Speaker 1: so they traded him to the Rays. They got TODJ. Bradley.
27:35
Speaker 1: Do you think this was the right thing aj to
27:37
Speaker 1: listen to Griffin? I don't know if they had plans
27:40
Speaker 1: to trade him anyway, because they traded almost everyone.
27:42
Speaker 2: I mean some people were like Louis Varland, he's under
27:45
Speaker 2: control for twenty thirty.
27:46
Speaker 1: He cost nothing right now, they just cleared house. So
27:49
Speaker 1: do you think that if they weren't going to trade
27:52
Speaker 1: him and Griffin Jacks talked them into it, it was
27:54
Speaker 1: the right call based on what is going on with
27:56
Speaker 1: this franchise and now hopefully they're going to be sold
27:59
Speaker 1: and things are going to kind of kick back into
28:01
Speaker 1: gear again for them.
28:03
Speaker 5: Well, I also think that remember the rock O Griffin
28:05
Speaker 5: Jacks confrontation they had. Remember he took him out in
28:08
Speaker 5: the middle of an inning and they're like, oh, he's
28:10
Speaker 5: getting traded, and then he gastled three runs. Someone came
28:13
Speaker 5: in and lit the fire for I think three of
28:15
Speaker 5: his runs, So I think that had something to do
28:17
Speaker 5: with it. Jackson is probably frustrated and then he saw, Hey,
28:19
Speaker 5: this guy's gone. This guy's gone, this guy's gone. You
28:21
Speaker 5: get a twin, You get a twin, You get a twin.
28:23
Speaker 5: Everybody was getting twins. He's looking around in the bullpen
28:26
Speaker 5: and going, I don't even know the guy's names down here,
28:29
Speaker 5: So hey, will you guys trade me too? And they're like, sure,
28:31
Speaker 5: go to Tampa. Enjoyed Tampa. So do I think this
28:33
Speaker 5: was the right move?
28:34
Speaker 2: Sure?
28:34
Speaker 5: If the guys if someone's unhappy there, then get him
28:36
Speaker 5: out of there. And if Griffin Jackson went to them
28:38
Speaker 5: and they and the Twins obliged and sent him somewhere else,
28:41
Speaker 5: good for the Twins man.
28:42
Speaker 6: That's listen.
28:43
Speaker 5: That's all you can ask for players, honesty. You want
28:45
Speaker 5: the organization to be honest with you. And he went
28:47
Speaker 5: in there and said I'm not happy here, and they said, okay,
28:49
Speaker 5: we can get some for you.
28:50
Speaker 6: Audios.
28:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't blame you.
28:53
Speaker 6: Right, if everybody's everybody starts falling off and you're you're
28:56
Speaker 6: the last guy standing, you don't want to be sitting
28:58
Speaker 6: in the bullpen where you're the only name anybody knows anymore,
29:02
Speaker 6: especially if you're not going to be in a playoff
29:04
Speaker 6: push and you don't even know what next year is
29:05
Speaker 6: gonna look like because everybody's gone, you got a sale
29:09
Speaker 6: of a team, There's a lot of different things going on.
29:11
Speaker 6: So for his sake, it's like, hey, if you're trading everybody,
29:14
Speaker 6: don't forget about me. And he has every right to
29:18
Speaker 6: do that. They have every right not to trade him,
29:19
Speaker 6: but I think it's for them. I think it was
29:22
Speaker 6: cool that they did trade him, since they traded everyone
29:24
Speaker 6: else to get as much you can for everybody if
29:25
Speaker 6: you're doing a full rehaul like that, and don't leave
29:28
Speaker 6: anybody out, because that sucks to be the last guy left.
29:31
Speaker 6: For sure. He made sure he wasn't, So I give
29:34
Speaker 6: everybody credit for doing the right thing and doing what
29:36
Speaker 6: they thought was right.
29:39
Speaker 1: Lance, where are you on the Twins and what just
29:41
Speaker 1: happened there? Because it was kind of crazy. I know
29:43
Speaker 1: we touched on at the top of the show, but
29:44
Speaker 1: were you surprised? I mean, you were on this team,
29:47
Speaker 1: what six seven years ago?
29:49
Speaker 4: Yeah?
29:49
Speaker 6: So I think we had eight guys traded that year
29:52
Speaker 6: and it was a Nobody played the will with the
29:55
Speaker 6: way that they were expecting to or wanted to. So
29:58
Speaker 6: I've seen him kind of do it, but most guys
30:00
Speaker 6: were going on expiring contracts, so you're always surprised when
30:04
Speaker 6: you see guys get dealt with multiple years of control.
30:07
Speaker 6: But also that might be the time when you can
30:10
Speaker 6: hit on your best package. They got rid of some
30:12
Speaker 6: money with Korea and stuff like that too, so maybe
30:15
Speaker 6: their idea was get as much as you possibly can
30:18
Speaker 6: back for the organization, and then let's figure out how
30:22
Speaker 6: we can spend in free agency to build around. So
30:27
Speaker 6: for me, it's see what the plan is, see where
30:29
Speaker 6: they go and free agency and stuff like that to
30:31
Speaker 6: see where they can jump back into it. And then
30:34
Speaker 6: they also mind us, all, hey, we're not going to
30:36
Speaker 6: catch Detroit in the next two years, so this is
30:37
Speaker 6: our best time to grab as many players and prospects
30:41
Speaker 6: as we can and then we'll see where we're at
30:43
Speaker 6: after that. So it's a wait and see. Surprised by it, yeah,
30:47
Speaker 6: but it's a wait and see.
30:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:50
Speaker 1: I mean there's still talent on that team, so it's
30:51
Speaker 1: not like it's a full rebuild. And aj I do
30:55
Speaker 1: think they've done a really nice job of building bullpens lately,
30:58
Speaker 1: and they've got a pretty good pitch development machine. So
31:02
Speaker 1: that's one spot where probably some of the guys they
31:04
Speaker 1: acquired are going to be major bullpen pack factors for them,
31:08
Speaker 1: you know, next year. I just kind of felt like
31:11
Speaker 1: they were stuck in the middle lately. They weren't allowed
31:14
Speaker 1: to do much to add to the team. We've talked
31:16
Speaker 1: a lot about how hopefully they're going to be sold,
31:19
Speaker 1: and so that's the most important thing. If clearing a
31:21
Speaker 1: little bit of book money is going to help you,
31:23
Speaker 1: then fans are rooting for that over everything else.
31:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. And what did Jim Bowden say the
31:28
Speaker 5: other day, I can find relievers anywhere. I can find
31:31
Speaker 5: relievers of any I can look at my minor leagues
31:34
Speaker 5: and five five relievers. Right, He's like, I traded this
31:36
Speaker 5: guy for this guy, and this guy for this guy.
31:37
Speaker 5: So relievers are one of the most volatile markets because
31:41
Speaker 5: one guy I have great year one year, and the
31:43
Speaker 5: next year they're not as good. It's weird, and then
31:44
Speaker 5: the next year they'll be great again. So it's a
31:47
Speaker 5: strange thing with the relievers. But if you're trading them
31:50
Speaker 5: and the Twins are redoing their bullpen, but they're also
31:52
Speaker 5: certing the message they're not competing this year probably next year.
31:56
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's an interesting dilemma they're in. What are
32:00
Speaker 5: they going to do? They need to sell the team.
32:01
Speaker 5: Is the team going to be sold? I mean we're
32:03
Speaker 5: hearing it might be sold pretty quickly, but we haven't
32:04
Speaker 5: heard any rumors. We thought it was the issue as
32:06
Speaker 5: they gone, they're going to White Sox.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: Target Field's a great place. Minnesota fans are great fans,
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Speaker 5: and they deserve something better than what they've been getting,
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Speaker 5: which is not a great product the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think that you can reload quicker
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Speaker 1: in the American League Central than most other divisions.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of up and down. It's just how
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Speaker 2: it is.
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Speaker 1: You don't have these big money, big market teams out there.
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Speaker 1: So you know, Cleveland can take a small step back
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Speaker 1: this year and then be really good again last year
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Speaker 1: or next year, just like they were last year.
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Speaker 2: You know the Twins.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it only takes another year or so and then
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Speaker 1: they feel like they're a contender again.
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Speaker 2: You know you've seen that aside.
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Speaker 1: Sorry guys, his answer away.
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Speaker 5: Nope, So Scott, you want a salary cap is what
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Speaker 5: you're saying. So Central just making sure Bryce Harper has
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Speaker 5: words for you.
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Speaker 4: Thanks.
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Speaker 6: Hey, I know when Detroit was Detroit back in the
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Speaker 6: day with Furlier and everybody, they weren't to spend some money.
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Speaker 6: So everybody needs to watch out what what Detroit's owner does.
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Speaker 6: He's not afraid to go for it when he thinks
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Speaker 6: it's his time. With the young players they have, and
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Speaker 6: they're kind of a touch ahead of what I think
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Speaker 6: they thought they would be, So you never know with them.
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Speaker 6: They could they could do. They could get get ahold
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Speaker 6: of that central and run with it for a while
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Speaker 6: because he's not afraid to throw some money at it.
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Speaker 4: When it's time.
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Speaker 1: Aj how many teams in the AL Central made the
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Speaker 1: playoffs last year?
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Speaker 2: Exactly?
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Speaker 1: And for the people listening on the pod later, that
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Speaker 1: would be three. Three teams made the playoffs in the AL.
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Speaker 2: Central last year.
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Speaker 6: I mean he made it from the.
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Speaker 2: Was it one or two? One? One two Yanks? Nobody else? Right?
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Speaker 7: Uh?
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Speaker 2: No, Orioles made it? Orioles, Yanks and Orioles.
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Speaker 5: How many teams in the ale least one playoff games
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Speaker 5: last year?
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Speaker 2: One?
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Speaker 6: One? The one that was at the end there there
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Speaker 6: at the end, that's all it matters.
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Speaker 5: How many how many teams in the Central loss of
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Speaker 5: the Yankees Three, I'm just skidding. Two with the nkestick
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Speaker 5: out the whole Central.
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Speaker 2: Last year, that's true. That's true, as.
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Speaker 6: They would do if they were in the division.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Quin's Quinn's have a ugly past with the Yankees
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Speaker 1: for a long time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a sensitive subject.