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The Late Debate | 2 September · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Late Welcome the late Base, Good evening. I'm James Macpherson
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Speaker 1: with Free Leitch and Caleb Bond coming up tonight. Increasing
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Speaker 1: numbers of job applicants are using AI to help them
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Speaker 1: in interviews, so how do employers know what they're really getting?
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Speaker 1: A new survey finds jen z are afraid to put
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Speaker 1: fuel in their carrents, not because of the price, They're
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Speaker 1: scared of the nozzle.
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Speaker 2: And remember that pro Palaestindian march across the Harbor Bridge well.
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Speaker 1: A Sydney restaurant is being taken to the Human Rights
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Speaker 1: Commission for asking protesters to remove their kefirs before coming in.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that shortly, but.
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Speaker 1: First, as of yesterday, owning, carrying, or using a machete
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Speaker 1: in Victoria now carries a forty seven thousand dollar fine
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Speaker 1: or up to.
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Speaker 2: Two years in prison.
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Speaker 1: There's still time for people to hand in their weapons voluntarily. However,
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Speaker 1: people can put their illegal weapons into amnesty bins provided
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Speaker 1: by the state government at a cost of three hundred
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Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars each. Just one small hiccup, some
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Speaker 1: of the machetes people are trying to hand in and
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Speaker 1: put into these bins well that it actually fit in
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Speaker 1: the bins. Yep, the genius minds who banned machetes didn't
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Speaker 1: think to measure them first. The result blades sticking out
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Speaker 1: like invitations.
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Speaker 3: Victoria's machete amnesty has come into effect, but not without
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Speaker 3: a hurdle. Ainsley Kosh has the details. Ainsley, there are
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Speaker 3: concerns not all machetes actually fit into the bins.
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Speaker 4: Mitch. That was certainly the experience out at Woodonga today
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Speaker 4: where a Seven News camera crew arrived to see a
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Speaker 4: machete had been disposed of, but the handle was still exposed,
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Speaker 4: making it easy for someone to take it and potentially
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Speaker 4: end up in the wrong hands.
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Speaker 2: Someone can just go grab it and then back on
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Speaker 2: the street. Probably need to fix that up. Huh.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, Caleb, is there anything this Victorian government can't make worse?
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Speaker 5: Can I just make a comment on the vox pop first?
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Speaker 6: Right, because as a reporter, vox pops were the worst
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Speaker 6: job that you had to do, particularly when I was
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Speaker 6: a crime reporter and you had to get to a
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Speaker 6: crime scene and you knew if you didn't come back
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Speaker 6: with a vox pop you were going to get in trouble.
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Speaker 6: But they were always inane and neighbors saying, oh, Jesus
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Speaker 6: never happens in our street. That is a great one
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Speaker 6: of the genre. Or Jesus should probably do something about that.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely they should.
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Speaker 6: I mean, for three hundred and twenty five k each,
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Speaker 6: forty of these things, thirty million dollars, you'd expect they'd
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Speaker 6: be able to put together some bins that would actually
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Speaker 6: take a machette. I mean, I went today and put
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Speaker 6: some clothes in a charity bin, and I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 6: the opening on the charity bin was bigger than that thing.
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Speaker 6: So maybe they should just some sequest to some old
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Speaker 6: charity bins and use them instead. Maybe it is a
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Speaker 6: machette distribution system, but honestly it it is. It makes
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Speaker 6: a mockery of what was already a joke. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 6: you know this could be from an episode of Yes Minister.
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Speaker 6: I tried to find to actually find an episode, but
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Speaker 6: apparently they didn't foresee machettes being banned. But the whole
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Speaker 6: thing is a joke. It was a knee jerk reaction to.
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Speaker 6: Of course, the attack in Witch shopping center was at
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Speaker 6: North Will Shopping Center, and you know, you could have
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Speaker 6: banned machetes at any point before that be go, Okay,
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Speaker 6: we've had one bad case, so we'll ban machetes and
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Speaker 6: that's going to fix the problem overnight.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm sorry, the problem is obviously youth crime.
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Speaker 6: Now, if they don't have machettes, they'll find another weapon.
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Speaker 6: They'll find another knife. It'll be a kitchen knife, or
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Speaker 6: it'll be something they've stolen from dad's tool shed or whatever.
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Speaker 6: And then you'll ban the kitchen knife, and then it'll
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Speaker 6: be the screwdriver. Then you'll ban the screwdriver, and then
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Speaker 6: they'll start hacking things away with sticks that they've picked
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Speaker 6: up off the ground. I mean, we know where this
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Speaker 6: eventually leads to. Getting rid of machetes does nothing to
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Speaker 6: fix crime in Victoria. It's simply a band aid to
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Speaker 6: make it look like they're doing something, which is so
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Speaker 6: often what we do in these circumstances.
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Speaker 5: We don't deal with the problem at hand.
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Speaker 6: We say, ah, there's a very quick and easy solution
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Speaker 6: we can put on top, and now we've fixed it. Well,
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Speaker 6: you haven't fixed it, particularly when you can now just
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Speaker 6: go and take a machette out of a bit.
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Speaker 7: Well, not only can you take one out of a bin,
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Speaker 7: you can also just buy one into state and have
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Speaker 7: it delivered to you.
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Speaker 8: How are they going to enforce that.
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Speaker 7: You can get one online easily on Amazon not advice,
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Speaker 7: but you really can just google it. And so again,
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Speaker 7: unless you actually deal with the root cause of youth crime,
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Speaker 7: this isn't going to do anything. But I do have
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Speaker 7: a theory that if they had made the opening to
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Speaker 7: the bin any bigger people would have just been able
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Speaker 7: to stick their hand in and grab the machete. So
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Speaker 7: they had to make it small. But in the process
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Speaker 7: then now you can't actually fit machetes in the bin.
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Speaker 8: So the whole thing is just so absurd.
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Speaker 5: But see that takes where the charity bins.
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Speaker 6: Have got it worked out, because you use one of
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Speaker 6: those things, and it's like when you know, you go
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Speaker 6: and post big mail in the mailbox and you open
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Speaker 6: the thing up and you can't actually get into the
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Speaker 6: bin itself, but it's got this big mouth in it.
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Speaker 6: I mean, why couldn't they do that? You just go
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Speaker 6: and get them picked them up from a supermarket.
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Speaker 1: It was a joke from the start because they put
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Speaker 1: these bins outside police stations with CCTV cameras monitoring every
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Speaker 1: person who deposits a machete. So you're hardly going to
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Speaker 1: get Victorian gang members all lining up at the local
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Speaker 1: police station to be on camera and then to your
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Speaker 1: point where you know where do they stop the bands?
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Speaker 1: Once you ban machetes, what's next? Well, they originally said
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Speaker 1: a machete was anything with a twenty centimeter blade or larger,
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Speaker 1: but then that became confusing because what about some kitchen knives.
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Speaker 1: So they settled on this definition. Saw this is the definition.
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Speaker 1: They settled on anything an ordinary person would consider it
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Speaker 1: to be a machete. It was the official definition. So
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Speaker 1: the whole thing has been a disaster.
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Speaker 2: From the beginning.
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, we could say that the premiere isn't
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Speaker 6: terribly sharp, so you may not consider her a machete,
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Speaker 6: but there's many of other weapons you might compare her
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Speaker 6: to blunt. I mean, for goodness, seriously, but Victoria is
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Speaker 6: failing to fix up them. Sheitty problem obviously, because you
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Speaker 6: can go and pull them out of the bin. And
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Speaker 6: at a federal level, labor is also failing to do
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Speaker 6: anything about the high migration that we've seen in this country.
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Speaker 5: And of course you saw in.
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Speaker 6: The last few days over the weekend, the marches across
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Speaker 6: the country against mass migration. People are waking up to
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Speaker 6: the damage that mass migration.
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Speaker 5: Is doing to this country.
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Speaker 6: But Labour says, nothing to see here, no problem whatsoever.
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Speaker 6: They're not going to make any changes to migration levels now.
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Speaker 5: Yes, they are lower, or they're predicted to be lower
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Speaker 5: this year. Are they're meant to be lower this year.
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Speaker 6: They're meant to be lower in the coming years than
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Speaker 6: they were for the last few years.
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Speaker 5: But keep in mind.
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Speaker 6: More than a million people have moved to this country
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Speaker 6: permanently under the Albanesi government. They say it's okay because
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Speaker 6: the number is now just a bit over one hundred thousand.
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Speaker 5: I mean, that doesn't help at all, I have to
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Speaker 5: tell you.
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Speaker 6: But Tony Birth, the Immigration Minister, said today that the
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Speaker 6: Albanese Labor government will maintain the twenty twenty five twenty
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Speaker 6: six p A migration program at the same level.
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Speaker 5: And settings as the twenty twenty four to twenty.
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Speaker 6: Five program one hundred and eighty five thousand, follows consultation
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Speaker 6: with the States and territories, which recommended maintaining the size
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Speaker 6: and composition of the program with a focus on skilled migration.
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Speaker 5: The Department of Home.
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Speaker 6: Affairs has been processing visas based on last year's level,
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Speaker 6: so there has been no disruption to the delivery of
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Speaker 6: the program. And I have to tell you I have
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Speaker 6: approximately zero confidence that that really makes any difference to anything.
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Speaker 5: Because the migration level over the last few.
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Speaker 6: Years has been above what it was predicted to be anyway,
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Speaker 6: so they can say, well, our target is one hundred
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Speaker 6: and eighty five thousand, but lo and behold, it's two
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Speaker 6: hundred and fifty thousand. Where did that come from. It's
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Speaker 6: simply a number on a page. And at what point
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Speaker 6: are we going to admit that this is just a
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Speaker 6: massive Ponzi scheme to keep the economy afloat so that
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Speaker 6: we don't have to say on paper that we've been
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Speaker 6: in recession for the last three years, because in reality,
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Speaker 6: we have been in.
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Speaker 5: Recession for the last three years.
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Speaker 6: A GDP per head of population was going backwards for
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Speaker 6: eight straight quarters. That means, in real terms, you have
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Speaker 6: less money in your hands than you did before. Seventy
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Speaker 6: five percent of jobs created in this country last year
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Speaker 6: were in some way backed by government money. In twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty three, a third of jobs were connected to the NDIS.
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Speaker 6: And I couldn't believe this when I looked it up
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Speaker 6: and this was from twenty twenty two, so I'm not
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Speaker 6: sure what the latest number is, but this is the
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Speaker 6: best I could find the most recent data. Five hundred
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Speaker 6: and thirty four thousand people work in the disability sector.
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Speaker 6: That has more than doubled since twenty sixteen, ostensibly because
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Speaker 6: the NDIS exists now. That is more by hundreds of
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Speaker 6: thousands than there are people working in supermarkets that most
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Speaker 6: of us go to at least every week, if not
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Speaker 6: every day.
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Speaker 5: The government is created.
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Speaker 6: Eight jobs for these people, bringing them in and saying oh, look,
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Speaker 6: well we need them, We need.
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Speaker 5: Them to fill the jobs.
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Speaker 6: But if you stopped funding all those government funded jobs,
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Speaker 6: you wouldn't need to fill the jobs. It is a joke.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that the government won't be specific. They say, well,
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Speaker 1: we'll keep numbers the same in terms of people coming
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Speaker 1: into the country permanent migration. But talking this morning about
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Speaker 1: net migration, that's the number of people that come in
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Speaker 1: minus the number of people who leave, we end up
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Speaker 1: with more than half a million people back in twenty
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Speaker 1: two to twenty three.
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Speaker 2: Mark Butler on television this morning was asked.
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Speaker 1: Well, if you're going to reduce net migration, you're going
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Speaker 1: to reduce it to what number?
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Speaker 2: He said, will substantially reduce it?
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Speaker 1: And he was asked yes, but to what number and
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Speaker 1: he said a more ordinary number, which goes to your point,
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Speaker 1: what confidence would you have that Labor will actually reduce numbers?
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Speaker 1: And these comments right after thousands of people marched around
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Speaker 1: the country calling for politicians to address the issue of
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Speaker 1: massive mitgration. Not only will the Labor government not give specifics,
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Speaker 1: but they spent more time in Parliament wanting to talk
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Speaker 1: about neo Nazis marching, which is a tiny fraction of
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Speaker 1: the crowd on the weekend, rather than what most people
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Speaker 1: were there for the issue of migration.
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Speaker 2: We still can't talk about it.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's because Labor has to distract people
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Speaker 7: from the issue of migration, and so by focusing on
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Speaker 7: a small group of agitators who tried to hijack the
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Speaker 7: protests for their own political gain, they're able to kind
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Speaker 7: of change the narrative and make it appear that, oh,
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Speaker 7: you know, this was just a fringe group, this isn't
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Speaker 7: really representative of middle Australia. But the fact say the opposite,
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Speaker 7: the majority of Australia. So the low instituted polling on
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Speaker 7: this fifty three percent of Australians think immigration is too high,
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Speaker 7: even among Gen Z under thirties that are the most woke,
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Speaker 7: the most left wing generation, forty percent think immigration is
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Speaker 7: too high. Most Australians think immigration is too high, but
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Speaker 7: labor does not want to confront that reality, so they
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Speaker 7: want to distract us with neo Nazis culture wars, calling
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Speaker 7: everyone racist. But the facts speak for themselves, and the
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Speaker 7: immigration we've seen in the last five years or so
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Speaker 7: has been double the post war average. This is unprecedented.
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Speaker 7: It's also we've also had the highest level of population
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Speaker 7: growth in the OECD, the fastest rate. It's just beyond comprehension.
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Speaker 7: Over thirty percent of our population was born overseas. That's
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Speaker 7: the second highest in the OECD.
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Speaker 8: This is not normal.
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Speaker 7: No other country has undergone such a dramatic demographic shift
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Speaker 7: in ten fifteen years as we have, and we are
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Speaker 7: paying the consequences. And this immigration number that they have
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Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty five thousand for permanent migration. That's
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Speaker 7: permanent migration, that's not temporary migration, which is students, international
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Speaker 7: students that are a massive contributor to the rental crisis.
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Speaker 7: So the whole thing is all about distracting us from
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Speaker 7: what's really going on.
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Speaker 8: And when you look at the numbers, it is an.
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Speaker 7: Absolute disaster for Australia and one of the consequences is
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Speaker 7: a housing crisis. But it's interesting because it's come to
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Speaker 7: light that potentially the labor government has a solution to
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Speaker 7: the housing crisis, at least according to one Indian government minister.
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Speaker 8: It's been revealed I guess.
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Speaker 7: That they're apparently in deep negotiations to bring over hundreds
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Speaker 7: of thousands of Indian migrants to build up to one
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Speaker 7: million houses here in Australia. This is the Indian minister
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Speaker 7: talking about it.
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Speaker 6: Just do the map on a million holes and you'll
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Speaker 6: realize the mind boggling opportunity.
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Speaker 2: You could have.
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Speaker 8: Hundreds of thousands of Indian labor go to Australia, lots
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Speaker 8: of people who can go there help to construct good quality,
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Speaker 8: modern buildings.
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Speaker 7: So high immigration has caused the housing crisis, which has
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Speaker 7: led to a shortage of homes. Now the government's idea
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Speaker 7: is to bring in more migrants to build houses for
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Speaker 7: the migrants that they already brought in, And apparently they're
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Speaker 7: going to go to the UAE to try and finance
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Speaker 7: the project. What kind of logic is going on here?
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Speaker 7: Why don't they just try cutting immigration, put a freeze
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Speaker 7: on migration. That also of your housing crisis pretty quickly.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's India's Commerce minister talking about sending, as you said,
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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of Indians here. That comes right after
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Speaker 1: a red Bridge pole that we talked about on this
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Speaker 1: program that found eighty five percent of first generation Indians
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Speaker 1: in this country voted labor at the last election.
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Speaker 2: So you put those two things together. We need a
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Speaker 2: lot of homes.
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Speaker 1: Bring a whole lot of Indians to Australia, train them
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Speaker 1: up in construction, get them to build those homes. How
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Speaker 1: many of them would stay I'm not sure, but certainly
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Speaker 1: enough to vote labor at the next election.
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Speaker 2: It's all rather convenient, isn't it.
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Speaker 6: But this is the exactly the Ponzi scheme I'm talking about,
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Speaker 6: is that you say, okay, we will bring margrants into
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Speaker 6: this country, and then necessarily that means we have to
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Speaker 6: create services and homes and schools and roads and whatever
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Speaker 6: for them. Oh so we need someone to do those jobs.
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Speaker 6: We'll bring in some more margarets. To do that job,
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Speaker 6: and on and on the circus goes. It is literally
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Speaker 6: economic growth for economic growth's sake, and it is to
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Speaker 6: the detriment of all of us because when you bring
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Speaker 6: if someone is born in this country and let's say
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Speaker 6: they start working at fourteen fifteen years old, as many
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Speaker 6: people are probably less so these days, but if you
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Speaker 6: start working as a teenager and you start paying taxes
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Speaker 6: over your lifetime, you contribute into the pot from which
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Speaker 6: you then take when you do Medicare and pension later
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Speaker 6: in life and all these other sorts of things. You
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Speaker 6: bring a mirgrant into this country. They've never contributed to
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Speaker 6: that pot before, but they will have all the same
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Speaker 6: need it's health care, aged care, whatever, when they reach
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Speaker 6: the end of their life. So they've actually been less
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Speaker 6: productive and less useful to this country than someone who
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Speaker 6: was born here in terms of taxpayer dollars, but they
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Speaker 6: will take out exactly the same as what everyone else
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Speaker 6: will at the end of their life. And the dirty
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Speaker 6: little secret of the fact that you know the majority
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Speaker 6: of the country doesn't want this mass migration is that,
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Speaker 6: as you say, thirty percent of people in this country
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Speaker 6: were born in another country, and far more than that
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Speaker 6: have parents who were born in another country. They're included
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Speaker 6: in the people who think that we need to lower
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Speaker 6: migration in this country because they realize even after they've
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Speaker 6: arrived that hang on, you do have to put the
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Speaker 6: brakes on at some point, which totally blows up the
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Speaker 6: argument that has got anything to do with race.
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Speaker 5: Has nothing to do with race.
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Speaker 6: It's people in this country saying, hang on, we need
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Speaker 6: to preserve the way.
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Speaker 2: Of life we have.
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Speaker 1: And of course another one of the complaints from the
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Speaker 1: World Weekend with all of those marches was that Australia
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Speaker 1: is being changed without our consent. Well, that problems happening
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Speaker 1: in the UK as well, with a new report finding
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Speaker 1: that the British countryside is well too British have look
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Speaker 1: at this headline overwhelmingly white countryside needs more helal food.
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Speaker 1: Report claims now, as you would appreciate this report comes
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Speaker 1: from a university, where else would it come from? A
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Speaker 1: Center for Hate Studies has found that people of ethnic
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Speaker 1: backgrounds feel discomfort in the British countryside because it's too white.
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Speaker 1: They suffer a psychological burden trying to navigate white spaces,
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Speaker 1: whatever that means, and that they find the traditional pub
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Speaker 1: culture in the British countryside to be exclusionary. Some of
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Speaker 1: the complaints that they found in interviews with one hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifteen people over two years was that people of
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Speaker 1: non British descent found that they were often stared at
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Speaker 1: when going into the British countryside and they often encountered
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Speaker 1: what they called hostile body language. So to overcome all
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Speaker 1: of this, the report has a chapter entitled how can
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Speaker 1: we make the Countryside more inclusive? Some of the suggestions
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Speaker 1: hellal food be served in British pubs, prayer spaces be created,
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Speaker 1: presumably in British pubs, and that there needs to be
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Speaker 1: a willingness on the part of people in rural communities
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Speaker 1: to change, Which makes me ask the question Freyer, why
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Speaker 1: is it on the people in the British countryside to change?
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Speaker 1: Why would those visiting the country side not taken upon
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Speaker 1: themselves to adapt to the local culture.
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Speaker 2: Why do the Brits have to change?
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Speaker 8: Well? And it's very simple.
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Speaker 7: If you want to be in the ethnic majority, go
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Speaker 7: back to the country you came from. If you're Pakistani,
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Speaker 7: go back to Pakistan. If you're Chinese, go back to China.
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Speaker 7: Wherever you're from. I mean, it's perfectly simple. We don't
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Speaker 7: go to China or Pakistan and say, oh, I feel
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Speaker 7: in the body language I'm experiencing right now and the
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Speaker 7: microaggressions from everyone in this mosque staring at me is
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Speaker 7: just really distressing. And you all need to convert to
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Speaker 7: Christianity and serve some kosher food so that I feel
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Speaker 7: comfortable here. You wouldn't dare do that because it's just ridiculous,
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Speaker 7: and we know that is illogical. If you go to
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Speaker 7: another country where they have the ethnic majority, you don't
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Speaker 7: demand that they change.
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Speaker 2: But yes, that would be called colonization.
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Speaker 8: Well it would be.
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Speaker 7: And this report, I mean, I must say it started
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Speaker 7: with a trigger warning. So anything that starts with a
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Speaker 7: trigger warning, you know, don't take it very seriously. And
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Speaker 7: one of someone speaking on behalf of the rural community
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Speaker 7: in the UK.
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Speaker 8: They criticized this and said, there's actually no data.
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Speaker 7: To support that rural England is any more racist than
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Speaker 7: anywhere else in the country. And the whole report was
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Speaker 7: based on a bunch of interviews, not even data, nothing concrete.
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Speaker 7: This is just a waste. The only thing this report
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Speaker 7: is good for is toilet paper.
18:56
Speaker 6: Well, if you can't find racism. You have to invent racism.
18:59
Speaker 2: Don't you.
19:01
Speaker 6: Three points One the University of Leicester's Center for Hate Studies.
19:05
Speaker 6: This makes me hate studies. So yes, you've got that
19:09
Speaker 6: one right. Two they're complaining that people feel like they
19:13
Speaker 6: get stared at when they go into the British countryside. Well,
19:16
Speaker 6: I mean it is human nature to take notice of
19:20
Speaker 6: something that seems out of the ordinary. Now, look, if
19:23
Speaker 6: you're walking around London, seeing a Muslim person is not
19:27
Speaker 6: out of the ordinary. But maybe it is if you're
19:29
Speaker 6: walking around the Cotswolds and so you go, oh look,
19:33
Speaker 6: look it's a Middle Eastern person. It's not because they
19:36
Speaker 6: hate you, it's just because they haven't seen that many
19:39
Speaker 6: of you around recently.
19:40
Speaker 5: Of course they're going to stare. It's like seeing a
19:42
Speaker 5: hot chick in you town.
19:44
Speaker 6: There's not that many of them around, so of course
19:46
Speaker 6: you're going to take notice of it.
19:48
Speaker 5: And Third is this business about.
19:50
Speaker 6: The pub right or they think the pub culture is exclusionary.
19:54
Speaker 6: I don't know how many pubs the people from the
19:56
Speaker 6: University of Leicester's Center for Hate Studies have been to.
20:00
Speaker 5: I'm going to guess not that many.
20:02
Speaker 6: Because they probably get booed out of a pub for
20:04
Speaker 6: being boring and wanting to talk about the rubbish that
20:07
Speaker 6: they come up with in their academic life. But in
20:10
Speaker 6: my experience, the pub is the great melting pot of
20:14
Speaker 6: any community. It's where you can go, whether you're on
20:17
Speaker 6: your own or with mates or whatever.
20:19
Speaker 5: Walk in order a pint.
20:21
Speaker 6: You're going to run into someone who's a neighbor or
20:24
Speaker 6: someone in the community.
20:25
Speaker 5: You can talk to anyone.
20:26
Speaker 8: You meet all.
20:27
Speaker 5: Sorts of people at the pub.
20:29
Speaker 6: If I moved into a new neighborhood and I wanted
20:31
Speaker 6: to go and meet some people and get a feel
20:33
Speaker 6: for what was going on, the pub is the first
20:35
Speaker 6: place i'd go, because you're sured and meet some good
20:38
Speaker 6: characters in there. I don't buy for a minute the
20:41
Speaker 6: idea that you feel uncomfortable in a pub, unless, of course,
20:44
Speaker 6: they're saying it's because alcohol is being served in there,
20:46
Speaker 6: so a Muslim can't go.
20:47
Speaker 5: In there, in which case, don't go to the pub.
20:49
Speaker 1: I'm just a pull back to the newspaper headliner begins,
20:52
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly white countryside needs blah blah blah.
20:55
Speaker 2: It's almost like.
20:56
Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly white is a chart. Do you imagine going to Africa?
21:01
Speaker 1: I love Africa, been there many times. But can you
21:03
Speaker 1: imagine complaining, Gee, it's overwhelmingly black.
21:06
Speaker 2: I mean, you would be pillar, You would be the
21:09
Speaker 2: ultimate racist. But you use the word white. Anything goes.
21:12
Speaker 5: And the hulual thing as well.
21:14
Speaker 6: They need to be proactive about having hallual food, about
21:18
Speaker 6: hellul supermarkets or whatever.
21:19
Speaker 2: And it's just market forces exactly.
21:21
Speaker 6: If lots of Muslim people move into the British countryside,
21:25
Speaker 6: someone will open a halal shop because there'll be a
21:28
Speaker 6: market for it, you know, come and they will give.
21:32
Speaker 5: It's as simple as that. Now, look, I belong to
21:35
Speaker 5: Generation Zed. I fall into that age bracket.
21:38
Speaker 6: But look, I think I was probably born an eighty
21:41
Speaker 6: year old man, to be perfectly honest, which twenty six
21:44
Speaker 6: years on makes me one hundred and six. And I
21:46
Speaker 6: think I'm looking pretty good for that age, to be
21:48
Speaker 6: perfectly honest. But so often I read stories and studies
21:52
Speaker 6: and things, I go these people have drifted so far
21:55
Speaker 6: from what.
21:56
Speaker 5: I believe I resemble.
21:59
Speaker 6: And the latest exact was a study out of the UK,
22:02
Speaker 6: or a survey out of the UK anyway, which is
22:05
Speaker 6: rather interesting because it says that the majority of gen
22:09
Speaker 6: Z people sixty two percent in fact, are apparently worried
22:13
Speaker 6: or eighteen to twenty four year olds, they should say
22:15
Speaker 6: gens does go a little bit beyond that. But sixty
22:18
Speaker 6: two percent of people aged eighteen to twenty four are
22:21
Speaker 6: scared to fuel their cars. To refuel their cars, Yes,
22:25
Speaker 6: they are worried about pulling into the servo and taking
22:29
Speaker 6: off the fuel cap and pulling the nozzle out of
22:32
Speaker 6: the bowser and putting it in the car and putting
22:35
Speaker 6: fuel in their car.
22:37
Speaker 5: Apparently they're worried about getting it wrong.
22:40
Speaker 6: They might pull up to the wrong side of the bowser,
22:43
Speaker 6: or they might be too close to the bowser, or
22:46
Speaker 6: they might be too far from the bowser so they
22:48
Speaker 6: have to take the hose too far around. Or maybe
22:53
Speaker 6: they're scared that they can't get their mobile phone away,
22:55
Speaker 6: so they're going to set the whole thing on fire.
22:57
Speaker 6: I think MythBusters dealt with that one twenty years ago.
23:00
Speaker 6: So I mean what, I don't get it. I don't
23:04
Speaker 6: get what is scary about refueling your car.
23:09
Speaker 5: To the point we sixty two percent of.
23:12
Speaker 6: People aged twenty Fournthy survey said they had anxiety.
23:16
Speaker 7: Okay, but Caleb, you're really hating on young people here.
23:19
Speaker 8: But It should be noted that.
23:21
Speaker 7: In this article it says that fifty percent of all
23:24
Speaker 7: other age categories also had fuel anxiety. So it's not
23:28
Speaker 7: for the young noble. Everyone across the board finds petrol
23:32
Speaker 7: stations stressful. And it is so bad that apparently a
23:35
Speaker 7: quarter of young people have driven literally broke down for
23:39
Speaker 7: a lack of fuel because they were too anxious to
23:43
Speaker 7: go full out their cars.
23:44
Speaker 8: But it's not just young people, it's everyone.
23:46
Speaker 7: There is an epidemic of fuel anxiety in the Western world.
23:50
Speaker 1: Young people are like emotionally fluent but practically hopeless. Worse
23:57
Speaker 1: was the statistic that a quarter of seventeen to twenty
24:00
Speaker 1: year olds in the UK haven't even bothered to get
24:02
Speaker 1: their driver's license. I mean, when I turned seventeen, the
24:06
Speaker 1: next day I ran.
24:07
Speaker 6: I know, I always thought it was a right of passage.
24:10
Speaker 6: But my brother, I'm sorry to drop him in. You know,
24:13
Speaker 6: he's three years younger than me, but he's only getting
24:15
Speaker 6: his LS now and he always sold. You know, I've
24:18
Speaker 6: got my mates to drive me around, And I was like,
24:21
Speaker 6: but who wants to rely on their mates to drive
24:23
Speaker 6: them around? It was for me, it was the ticket
24:25
Speaker 6: to freedom. I had my car.
24:27
Speaker 5: My parents could tell me to do things that I
24:29
Speaker 5: said nah even But.
24:31
Speaker 1: Now these young people that are driving themselves around are
24:33
Speaker 1: relying on my friends to fill up the car because
24:36
Speaker 1: they're too.
24:37
Speaker 2: Scared of getting it wrong.
24:38
Speaker 1: Though, I must admit for clarification, I once did put
24:42
Speaker 1: petrol into a diesel vehicle.
24:44
Speaker 8: So yeah, so you can't talk, but I didn't.
24:47
Speaker 1: I didn't start the engine, so it didn't cost me
24:49
Speaker 1: as much as I thought.
24:50
Speaker 6: It was a stake that you weren't like shaking as
24:54
Speaker 6: you went to fill up your car.
24:56
Speaker 2: Work picked up.
24:58
Speaker 6: I know more exactual, I should have been more anxious.
25:01
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have made the mistake. That's probably a.
25:02
Speaker 8: Little two key exactly exactly.
25:04
Speaker 7: Well, another thing that's making gen Z very anxious are
25:08
Speaker 7: job applications, and so what are some people doing.
25:11
Speaker 8: Well, they're turning to AI.
25:13
Speaker 7: One of the biggest graduate job recruiters, Lenlease, has said
25:17
Speaker 7: they've noticed a disturbing trend of young people using AI
25:21
Speaker 7: in job interviews. Now, a lot of these online job applications,
25:25
Speaker 7: they'll have video interviews where applicants talk to a camera
25:29
Speaker 7: and that's how they're assessed in the initial rounds. And
25:32
Speaker 7: apparently you can literally see some people reading off AI
25:36
Speaker 7: generated scripts or prompts, sounds memorized and rehearsed, and it's
25:40
Speaker 7: not natural. And this is an increasing phenomena, and I
25:44
Speaker 7: think it's AI for young people is almost becoming like
25:48
Speaker 7: what mobile phones are a lot of people without their
25:52
Speaker 7: phone physically on them, even in their hand, they start
25:56
Speaker 7: to feel anxious.
25:56
Speaker 8: It's like their security blanket.
25:58
Speaker 7: I think we've got a generation of people that have
26:00
Speaker 7: now gone through school, they're going through UNI, and they
26:03
Speaker 7: have never had to rely on their brain and critical
26:08
Speaker 7: thinking because for a lot of us as well that
26:10
Speaker 7: went through COVID, all our assessments were moved online. You
26:14
Speaker 7: don't even have to do in person exams for a
26:17
Speaker 7: lot of courses anymore. And now you've got a situation
26:20
Speaker 7: where people can't even go into a job interview without
26:23
Speaker 7: relying on AI.
26:24
Speaker 8: It's absurd, quite right.
26:25
Speaker 1: Forbes magazine did a study recently that found fifty three
26:28
Speaker 1: percent of high school students had said they'd used chat
26:31
Speaker 1: GPT to write their assignments. So obviously that is going
26:36
Speaker 1: to continue as they go into the workforce.
26:38
Speaker 2: The problem, of course, is.
26:40
Speaker 1: That employers can't be sure what they're actually getting because
26:43
Speaker 1: someone could present very well on video where they're using
26:46
Speaker 1: chat GPT, but they didn't get them in the workforce
26:48
Speaker 1: where they don't have those tools to leverage, and you've
26:51
Speaker 1: got an entirely different employee to the one you thought
26:54
Speaker 1: you were getting. In addition, there's also the erosion of
26:58
Speaker 1: merit because some people would not use chat GPT.
27:01
Speaker 2: And maybe not fare quite so well.
27:04
Speaker 1: But minus the technology, you're a lot better than the
27:06
Speaker 1: person who got selected. And then of course there's the
27:10
Speaker 1: soft skills, communication, emotional intelligence. Those sorts of things are
27:15
Speaker 1: not able to be faked using the technology. Have them
27:19
Speaker 1: or don't, but employers might miss.
27:22
Speaker 2: Out on them.
27:23
Speaker 1: It's interesting, though you said Lendley has had this problem.
27:26
Speaker 1: Canva the tech company, they're actually encouraging people to use
27:31
Speaker 1: AI to help them in their job interviews.
27:34
Speaker 2: They are reasoning AI is going to.
27:36
Speaker 1: Be part of our lives, so rather than not use AI,
27:40
Speaker 1: we want to see how you leverage it to do better,
27:43
Speaker 1: and we'll actually count that as credit.
27:45
Speaker 2: Towards you, which is an interesting way to go.
27:48
Speaker 6: I kind of see what they're driving at, but my
27:51
Speaker 6: greatest concern is, as you say, it doesn't demonstrate what
27:56
Speaker 6: you can actually do as a person, and all of
27:58
Speaker 6: these skills into personal skills and whatever are lacking now
28:03
Speaker 6: more than they've ever been because you know, as I
28:05
Speaker 6: say so often, we are more connected than we've ever
28:09
Speaker 6: been as a society thanks to the Internet, but we're
28:11
Speaker 6: also more disconnected than we've ever been because we don't
28:14
Speaker 6: interact person to person as much. We do so much
28:17
Speaker 6: more online. And it's all good and well to say, well,
28:20
Speaker 6: AI is going to be part of the world forever now,
28:22
Speaker 6: so we want to see how.
28:23
Speaker 5: You leverage it.
28:24
Speaker 6: But if you're buying into it as the person going
28:27
Speaker 6: for the job and you're using AI as part of
28:30
Speaker 6: your job interview to improve your skills or you know,
28:34
Speaker 6: like AI can feed you answers to questions. You can
28:37
Speaker 6: literally be there doing an interview on a zoom call
28:40
Speaker 6: or something, have your phone sitting underneath the computer which
28:43
Speaker 6: is listening to what the interviewer is saying, and it
28:47
Speaker 6: will spit an answer out to you to give back
28:49
Speaker 6: to that question before you've even thought what you're going
28:53
Speaker 6: to say. So you're just giving the perfect answers, which
28:55
Speaker 6: doesn't demonstrate that you actually know anything. So if you
28:58
Speaker 6: can get the AI to basically do the interview for you,
29:02
Speaker 6: Why can't you just get the AI to do the job?
29:05
Speaker 6: And I think that's where we're heading. And that's all great.
29:08
Speaker 6: I mean, if you think that AI is helping you out,
29:10
Speaker 6: eventually it's going to take your job away and you're
29:12
Speaker 6: going to be sorry you ever used it in the
29:14
Speaker 6: first place. The only problem is that it bugs it
29:16
Speaker 6: up for the rest of us who aren't so keen
29:18
Speaker 6: on AI, because we're all going to get caught up
29:20
Speaker 6: in it as well. So I suppose at some point
29:23
Speaker 6: it becomes well, do you want to be left behind?
29:25
Speaker 6: You just got to join in anyway, even though you've
29:27
Speaker 6: got misgivings about it. Let's all get on the AI
29:30
Speaker 6: train until the AI train runs us all over.
29:33
Speaker 1: Indeed, well, speaking of misgivings, there's quite a few misgivings
29:35
Speaker 1: in the West about what's been happening in Beijing over
29:38
Speaker 1: the past three days. Jijingping has been hosting Vladimir Putin,
29:43
Speaker 1: Kim Jong yung, and the President of Iran. In addition,
29:48
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of India has been amongst the gathering
29:51
Speaker 1: as well, plus about two dozen other nations but Russia,
29:56
Speaker 1: North Korea, Iran, and China. The leaders of those nations
30:00
Speaker 1: all in one place at the same time. It's a
30:03
Speaker 1: historical first and something that's causing a lot of consternation
30:07
Speaker 1: around the West. This is the well it was once
30:10
Speaker 1: dubbed the Axis of Evil, now it's been called the
30:12
Speaker 1: Axis of upheaval. This is really China proving that they
30:16
Speaker 1: have arrived as a counterbalance to the United States. And
30:22
Speaker 1: part of what Jijing Ping appears to be doing is
30:24
Speaker 1: selling China as a model of stability. You've got Trump
30:29
Speaker 1: slapping tariffs on a whole lot of different countries, friend
30:33
Speaker 1: and foe, which is why it seems the Prime Minister
30:36
Speaker 1: of India is in China.
30:38
Speaker 2: India have being hit with a fifty percent.
30:39
Speaker 1: Tariff on goods that they export to the United States.
30:44
Speaker 1: But as well, they are starting to demonstrate their capacity
30:47
Speaker 1: to coordinate, and that I think is the thing that
30:50
Speaker 1: will really worry the West.
30:52
Speaker 2: If you've got these four.
30:53
Speaker 1: Nations in particular, they're very anti West, they're autocratic, they're
30:57
Speaker 1: anti democracy, but they to prove that.
31:01
Speaker 2: They can coordinate. We know they are already.
31:04
Speaker 1: You've got Iran helping Russia, You've got North Korea helping Russia.
31:09
Speaker 2: You've got China assisting Russia. That's a big problem for
31:12
Speaker 2: the West.
31:13
Speaker 1: And with Trump, as I said, putting tariffs on friends
31:17
Speaker 1: and foes, you've got people starting the second Guess where
31:20
Speaker 1: alignments will fall if conflict begins exactly.
31:24
Speaker 7: Well, I think they're kind of trying to establish basically
31:26
Speaker 7: a parallel global economy and world order so that they
31:30
Speaker 7: can operate without the West. And when you actually look
31:33
Speaker 7: at it, between Iran, Russia, and China, they have all
31:37
Speaker 7: the critical minerals you need to produce immense amounts of batteries,
31:43
Speaker 7: of weapons, or basically anything you could want. They're very rich,
31:47
Speaker 7: they have a lot of natural resources. North Korea has
31:51
Speaker 7: nuclear weapons.
31:52
Speaker 8: And so they are very dangerous. But what was I
31:55
Speaker 8: think very.
31:56
Speaker 7: Concerning was seeing India there as well and embracing Ladimir Putin.
32:01
Speaker 7: When Modi and Putin met, they literally like embraced one another,
32:04
Speaker 7: looked very happy. And that's concerning because India's sort of
32:07
Speaker 7: tried to tread this line of like with the WEARSA.
32:11
Speaker 7: But then I'm sort of supporting China and Russia. So
32:14
Speaker 7: seeing them there is really bad.
32:17
Speaker 8: And they're an.
32:17
Speaker 7: Emerging superpower, huge population and huge population in the West
32:22
Speaker 7: as well. That could be used against us at some
32:25
Speaker 7: point in the future who knows.
32:27
Speaker 8: So it's bad and this is the risk.
32:29
Speaker 7: Right we say, oh, this is great having an activist
32:31
Speaker 7: president in Donald Trump, but the risk is his strength
32:36
Speaker 7: actually galvanizes our foes to also at the ante on
32:40
Speaker 7: their sign as well.
32:41
Speaker 6: Well, India is going to come and build those million
32:43
Speaker 6: houses in too, and of course you know the relationship
32:46
Speaker 6: with Rasheralis that take a lot of fossil fuels from them.
32:49
Speaker 6: Here was President g saying, oh, you know, we can't
32:51
Speaker 6: have these power politics.
32:54
Speaker 9: What she currently changes and turbulences are interweaving in the
32:57
Speaker 9: world and all Member states are facing more arduous tasks
33:01
Speaker 9: on security and development. We must continue to unequivocally oppose
33:06
Speaker 9: hegemonism and power politics.
33:09
Speaker 6: Now, of course, what he is doing as we're talking
33:12
Speaker 6: about here, is trying to say, well, you know, if
33:14
Speaker 6: you've got to deal with all these tariffs from Donald Trump,
33:17
Speaker 6: come and deal with us.
33:18
Speaker 5: We won't give you the tariffs.
33:20
Speaker 6: And what he ultimately wants to do, and we have
33:23
Speaker 6: to be careful not to fall for the three card
33:25
Speaker 6: trick is to get leniency for China and Russia and
33:30
Speaker 6: such countries out of the West. He's essentially holding it
33:34
Speaker 6: over us with the threat that will if you don't
33:36
Speaker 6: acquiesce to what we want, which is no tariffs and
33:40
Speaker 6: you're much friendlier to us, etc. Perhaps you know militarily
33:44
Speaker 6: you'll go a bit easier. Honest, like mister Albaniz is,
33:47
Speaker 6: if you don't do that, we're going to come up
33:50
Speaker 6: with our own alliance. Gee is basically goading the West
33:56
Speaker 6: into either doubling down on.
33:58
Speaker 5: Where it is, which is what we should do really,
34:02
Speaker 5: or give in and say how old.
34:03
Speaker 6: No, sorry, sorry, sorry, we don't We don't want to
34:05
Speaker 6: poke the beer too much. That's ultimately what he wants.
34:08
Speaker 6: So it's a threat. It is essentially a threat. I
34:11
Speaker 6: think we have to be very careful not to buy
34:13
Speaker 6: into it.
34:14
Speaker 7: Yeah, indeed, you're a Coldplay fan fro oh well, it
34:17
Speaker 7: was a bit before my time, I must say, but
34:20
Speaker 7: I wouldn't like to be at a cold Plate concert
34:23
Speaker 7: to Israeli girls went to a concert, were called up
34:26
Speaker 7: onto the stage by Chris Martin, one of the main singers,
34:29
Speaker 7: and this was the really awkward moment that unfolded.
34:33
Speaker 2: Where did you come from today? From Israel? Okay?
34:37
Speaker 7: Well, okay, well listen.
34:41
Speaker 9: I'm going to say this, you're very grateful that your
34:44
Speaker 9: via a Shuberts and I are treating you as to
34:47
Speaker 9: put Hubert on it, regardless of.
34:48
Speaker 5: Where you pray for or don't putford.
34:50
Speaker 9: Thank you for being here with grateful and thank you
34:52
Speaker 9: for being loving Pine. Although it's controversial, maybe I also
34:57
Speaker 9: want to welcome people in the audience for Pawerstone because
34:59
Speaker 9: we we.
35:01
Speaker 1: Have I believe.
35:06
Speaker 8: So.
35:06
Speaker 7: He says we want to treat people as equal humans.
35:09
Speaker 7: But if anyone else came on to the stage, would
35:12
Speaker 7: you automatically say, and I want to acknowledge this other
35:16
Speaker 7: group as well. He was clearly trying to be nice.
35:19
Speaker 7: He was trying to do the right thing, but he
35:22
Speaker 7: should have just left it at oh you're from Israel,
35:24
Speaker 7: that's great.
35:25
Speaker 8: Move on.
35:26
Speaker 6: It shows how infected we've become with a foreign conflict,
35:30
Speaker 6: because can you imagine if someone got up and said
35:32
Speaker 6: they were Chinese, even.
35:35
Speaker 5: Though there are lots of people, I mean, if.
35:36
Speaker 6: You're Muslim, you've probably got very good reason to have
35:39
Speaker 6: issues with the Chinese.
35:40
Speaker 5: Along with a bunch of other people. No one would
35:42
Speaker 5: boo a.
35:43
Speaker 6: Chinese person getting up on stage because we understand that
35:47
Speaker 6: the country is not an individual standing on this age,
35:49
Speaker 6: even if you've got misgivings about Benjamin et Yahoo. It's
35:52
Speaker 6: two Israeli people who gives a toss. But that's where
35:55
Speaker 6: we've come to now where it's you know, someone says
35:58
Speaker 6: they're from Israel. Well, and that is the worst thing
36:01
Speaker 6: anyone could ever possibly say.
36:02
Speaker 2: And that's what gave it away. Right.
36:04
Speaker 1: So he says, I'm just going to treat you as
36:06
Speaker 1: human beings. And then he says, oh, I want to
36:08
Speaker 1: shout out to anyone from Palestine. So having said I'm
36:11
Speaker 1: going to treat you as individuals, as human beings, he
36:14
Speaker 1: then treats them as representatives of Israel. By his acknowledgment
36:18
Speaker 1: of anyone from Palestine in the audience.
36:21
Speaker 2: Absolute garbage.
36:22
Speaker 1: There's another instance of anti Semitism in Europe overnight. A
36:26
Speaker 1: Jewish singer performing in Warsaw had red paint thrown on
36:31
Speaker 1: him in the middle of his performance.
36:33
Speaker 2: Have a lot at this I We'll just keep looking
36:37
Speaker 2: at the vision there. He's performing a.
36:41
Speaker 1: Song that is a prayer basically used in religious moments
36:46
Speaker 1: for Jewish people.
36:48
Speaker 2: It's about peace, it's about.
36:49
Speaker 1: Unity, and some pro Palestinian protester, as you can see
36:53
Speaker 1: their throws red paint all over him. To the guy's credit,
36:56
Speaker 1: he continued the song after they got rid of the protester.
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Speaker 1: But this just continued all around the world to the
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Speaker 1: point where it's just become normal tragically.
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Speaker 8: Look, it's not about Jews, it's just about Zionus. Give
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Speaker 8: me a break. It's clearly about Jews.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to go to a break.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: including a secret plan to bring ISIS brides back to
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Speaker 1: Australia from Syria, and people of the Northern Territory rush
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Speaker 1: to buy pepper spray after it's made legal for self defense.
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Speaker 2: That's coming up in a moment. Welcome back to the program.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at tomorrow's headlines, starting with The
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Speaker 1: Australian and freyer ISIS brides coming back to Australia.
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, headline is revealed secret plan to bring ISIS
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Speaker 7: terror brides home from Syria. Australian ISIS brides stranded in
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Speaker 7: Northern Syria are set to be returned home before Christmas
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Speaker 7: in a top secret operation that is in the final
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Speaker 7: stages of being greenlit. The Australian can exclusively reveal more
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Speaker 7: than a dozen women and chill children and some young
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Speaker 7: men are expected to be evacuated out of camps and
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Speaker 7: brought home to New South Wales and Victoria, in what
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Speaker 7: is believed to be the third time a cohort of
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Speaker 7: this kind has returned to Australia. Senior government officials are
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Speaker 7: assisting the operation quietly in the background and intend to
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Speaker 7: work with families of those in the groups and not
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Speaker 7: for profit organizations to issue travel documents and obtain approvals
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Speaker 7: from Kurdish led authorities and neighboring countries.
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Speaker 8: Are not the best.
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Speaker 7: News to come as you have thousands of people protesting
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Speaker 7: against mass immigration and the erasure of Australian culture and
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Speaker 7: social cohesion. I wouldn't think this was the best time
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Speaker 7: to start bringing back Isis brides, especially if there are
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Speaker 7: some young men in there. But you know, Labor has
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Speaker 7: never been a government that cares about logic or reasoning.
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Speaker 1: So the Australian says, there's fourteen adults, twenty children.
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Speaker 2: The youngest of the children is five.
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Speaker 1: But what got my attention in this article, Kayleb, is
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Speaker 1: this little sentence here. It says the Australian understands federal
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Speaker 1: government agencies are aware of possible persons of interest in
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Speaker 1: the cohort that is set to return to Australia.
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Speaker 2: How can that be right?
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Speaker 6: It is just extraordinary, you know, because the argument is are, well,
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Speaker 6: they have kids and so we have a responsibility to
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Speaker 6: the kids. And you know, I feel sorry for the kids,
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Speaker 6: but I don't think we do have a responsibility to them.
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Speaker 5: I mean, if you are.
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Speaker 6: That dopey as a woman that you think I'm going
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Speaker 6: to go over and join ISIS, so I'm going to be.
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Speaker 5: A bride to a bloke who is involved.
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Speaker 6: In ISIS, and that's all hunky dory, and then it's
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Speaker 6: up to us to take you back when you decide
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Speaker 6: you have a few regrets about the lifestyle you find
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Speaker 6: when you go and join a Muslim terrorist organization and
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Speaker 6: marry one of their fellas. What did you think you
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Speaker 6: were getting yourself in for. It's not up to us
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Speaker 6: to clean up the rest of the world's rap. When
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Speaker 6: you got on a plane and left this country, you said,
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Speaker 6: sayonara to Australia and you should stay overseas forever.
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Speaker 1: How about the contrast, though, right, We've got ISIS brides
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Speaker 1: being brought back to Australia, while Labor MP ed Husick
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Speaker 1: is asking whether Australians who fight for the IDF should face.
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Speaker 2: War crime charges.
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Speaker 1: You put those two things together and you're wonder what
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Speaker 1: on earth is going on in this country. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to the front page of the Daily Telegraph. Polly's plot
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Speaker 1: NDIS fact find a trip to Europe.
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Speaker 2: How sweet it is? Reads the headline.
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Speaker 1: A Labour run NDIS committee wants to slug taxpayers tens
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Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars to send politicians to Europe so
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Speaker 1: they can learn about disability services abroad, at the same
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Speaker 1: time as the government is trying to curb the scheme's
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Speaker 1: ballooning cost. I was going to say, you couldn't make
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Speaker 1: this up, but you would totally anticipate it, wouldn't you.
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Speaker 1: Everything associated with the NDIS ends up just costing the
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Speaker 1: taxpayer an absolute fortune. And it's not just the different
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Speaker 1: agencies that are ripping off the scheme now, it's even
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Speaker 1: the politicians called to reform the scheme can't do it
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Speaker 1: without well trips to Europe.
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Speaker 7: Well, it says in the article, just the business class
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Speaker 7: flights for all of these MPs to head overseas would
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Speaker 7: cost seventy thousand dollars alone. Have they not heard of zoom?
41:23
Speaker 7: And don't they care about carbon emissions? Like all their
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Speaker 7: principles has flown out the window when they can get
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Speaker 7: a free business class Junger to Europe?
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Speaker 6: And what are they going to learn how to make
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Speaker 6: the scheme even bigger?
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Speaker 2: For goodness, it's the ndis who cares? That is the attitude,
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Speaker 2: it seems.
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Speaker 1: The other interesting story on the front page of Tomorrow's
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Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph headline reads buyer Beware of turbines. The former
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Speaker 1: head of Australia's wind farm watchdog has issued a buyer
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Speaker 1: beware to farmers who agree to host projects, warning it
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Speaker 1: remains possible for them to be left with a massive
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Speaker 1: cleanup bill if the private operator disappears or runs out
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Speaker 1: of money. Now, at the end of the lifespan of
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Speaker 1: these turbines, which is twenty to twenty five years, to
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Speaker 1: decommission every turbine, it's going to cost about six hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And farmers are being warned if you sign
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Speaker 1: up to have these things on your property, you better
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Speaker 1: read the contracts very closely, because some of them appear
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Speaker 1: to leave the farmer responsible for decommissioning these things. Well,
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Speaker 1: if one turbine is six hundred grand and you've got
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Speaker 1: I don't know a dozen twenty fifty on your property,
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Speaker 1: that'll be the end of you.
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean that's at least a bit of come up.
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Speaker 6: And so what you've done to your neighbors for putting
42:37
Speaker 6: the turbines up on your land, right, because that's what
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Speaker 6: they're all worried about, is you know, the blokenixt door
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Speaker 6: goes or you pee. I get my hand at all
42:44
Speaker 6: these millions of dollars, but my land next door is
42:47
Speaker 6: devalued and cheaper roaman around next to these things, and
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Speaker 6: I've got to de clear that now officially. So it's
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Speaker 6: no good for me. So if you've got to pay
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Speaker 6: more on the other end, perhaps it's what you deserve
42:59
Speaker 6: and what you get for doing it. On the front
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Speaker 6: of the Townsville bulletin tomorrow says council's culture clash, this
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Speaker 6: is a good news story for once a North Queensland
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Speaker 6: Council is no longer doing Welcome to Country as it
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Speaker 6: starts the process to develop a policy around the traditional practice.
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Speaker 6: Burdikinshire Council voted last month to create its own protocol
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Speaker 6: around the traditional practice, with Mayor Pirina dally Court telling
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Speaker 6: the bulletin we don't have welcome to Country here. Miss
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Speaker 6: deally Court said the matter was raised again at the
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Speaker 6: council meeting to make sure everyone was happy with that,
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Speaker 6: and certainly tells me most people will be happy with that.
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Speaker 6: I don't know why they need to look too much
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Speaker 6: further into it. I mean, if they're saying we're not
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Speaker 6: having it here, just leave it at that.
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Speaker 1: Well, the idea actually came from indigenous people in the
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Speaker 1: Berdican who last year said they did not support welcome
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Speaker 1: to Country because firstly they didn't think it should be
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Speaker 1: done for money, and secondly they said they were sick
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Speaker 1: of indigenous groups from outside the Burdicen coming into the
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Speaker 1: region to perform Welcome to Country for money. And so
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Speaker 1: when you've got indigenous elders saying we don't actually support this,
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Speaker 1: why would the council continue?
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Speaker 7: And that's the thing, and this is one of Just
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Speaker 7: Enterprise's points, and many people in the indigenous community have
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Speaker 7: said this. It's become such an industry and so corporatized
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Speaker 7: that you have all these urban rent seekers who perform
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Speaker 7: the Welcome to country for two grand here five grand.
44:23
Speaker 7: Then the smoking say this that none of it does
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Speaker 7: anything for actual Indigenous people who are disadvantaged. But it's
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Speaker 7: all about, yeah, turning it into a business essentially. But
44:33
Speaker 7: over in the Northern Territory, this is an interesting one.
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Speaker 7: Hundreds of Territorians purchase Capsic and Spray OC spray sellout.
44:42
Speaker 7: One vendor sold out of OC spray. There's more than
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Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty Territorians rushed to purchase it on
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Speaker 7: the first day of legal sales in the Northern Territory.
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Speaker 7: Purchases included one woman who admitted she had until now
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Speaker 7: been carrying a can of hair spray at a screw
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Speaker 7: dry her for her personal protection. Will for prohibited persons
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Speaker 7: who acquired the spray illegally were nabbed by the police.
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Speaker 8: Now I just love this. This is a common sense.
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Speaker 7: There's a liberal government up here in the Northern Territory
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Speaker 7: who said, actually, Territorians should have a right.
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Speaker 8: To defend themselves.
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Speaker 7: They've got a youth crime crisis, so deal with the
45:19
Speaker 7: bail issues, deal with the root causes. But while you're
45:22
Speaker 7: doing that, give people the ability to defend themselves.
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Speaker 8: I think This is wonderful.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I reckon a can of hair spray and
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Speaker 6: a gas match would probably be a bit more effective
45:31
Speaker 6: than the hare spray and the screwdriver.
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Speaker 5: But I mean this should be everywhere.
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Speaker 6: I don't see any genuine reason why you shouldn't be
45:39
Speaker 6: able to carry around a bit of pepper spray, particularly
45:41
Speaker 6: if you're a woman in your handed with a blow
45:43
Speaker 6: because well, if you're worried about your safety going home
45:45
Speaker 6: at night. You know, I don't know, you might be
45:47
Speaker 6: a nurse, you work in hospitality or something, and you're
45:49
Speaker 6: walking home at three am, and I can totally understand
45:52
Speaker 6: why you would want it. It doesn't cause long term
45:54
Speaker 6: damage to anyone. It's a self defense measure. I don't
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Speaker 6: see any reason not to have it and buy away.
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Speaker 6: I like the cut of Lisa Finocchiaro's jib. She is fantastic.
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Speaker 6: I don't know whether you saw at the Bush Summit
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Speaker 6: that Paul hosted the other day.
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Speaker 5: She is fantastic.
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Speaker 2: She is, she really is.
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking, just into Ellen or read the
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Speaker 1: front page of tomorrow's Northern Territory News. The next thing,
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Speaker 1: there'll be amnesty bins in Victoria for cans of hairspray.
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Speaker 6: And will you be able to get them in the bin.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a break.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll introduce you to our dope
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Speaker 1: of the day, Australia's dumbest thief. And forget Wimbledon, the
46:31
Speaker 1: International toe Wrestling Championship is about to begin.
46:34
Speaker 2: In the UK. All of that in the moment, Welcome
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Speaker 2: back to the program.
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Speaker 1: There are some dumb people in this country, but Caleb,
46:43
Speaker 1: I reckon, you might have found one of the dumbest.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 6: I was tossing up whether he would fit into the
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Speaker 6: category of our favorite segment of the day, because in
46:59
Speaker 6: some way this chap is incredibly smart. He was certainly
47:03
Speaker 6: successful in the thefts he carried out, and he then
47:07
Speaker 6: thought he'd come up with a way to sell the
47:09
Speaker 6: goods he had stolen. Now I talk about the things
47:11
Speaker 6: he's stolen, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of toys,
47:17
Speaker 6: most of it lego and seemingly allegedly, I should say
47:22
Speaker 6: all alleged. No man is not named though, but you
47:26
Speaker 6: can see there some of the stuff he's knocked off.
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Speaker 5: But he's like walked into shops and just walked out
47:30
Speaker 5: with this stuff.
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Speaker 6: And he's gone, well, what am I going to do
47:32
Speaker 6: with all this two hundred and fifty grand worth of lego?
47:35
Speaker 6: So he started putting it up on Facebook marketplace and
47:38
Speaker 6: was selling it off, which is of course how he
47:41
Speaker 6: came to the attention of the authorities because someone's gone cheese.
47:45
Speaker 6: This guy's selling a lot of like unopened lego sets
47:49
Speaker 6: on Facebook marketplace. So the coppers have gone around and
47:51
Speaker 6: had a look found two hundred and fifty grand worth
47:54
Speaker 6: of legos. He took them three truckloads to get rid
47:58
Speaker 6: of all the stuff he had stopped.
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Speaker 5: I want to know how he's.
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Speaker 6: Done it, Like, how do you knock off.
48:05
Speaker 5: That amount of gear? That takes some serious effort.
48:09
Speaker 6: But having gone to all that effort, he's just brought
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Speaker 6: it all undone by China, sell.
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Speaker 7: It on top amateur hour Amateur hour around here. Well,
48:16
Speaker 7: if you're looking for some light entertainment this weekend, the
48:19
Speaker 7: International Toe Wrestling Competition is returning to Derbyshire in the
48:24
Speaker 7: UK and the lucky winners of the male and female
48:27
Speaker 7: categories can win up to five thousand pounds. Now I
48:31
Speaker 7: want to introduce you to raining male champion Ben Total Destruction,
48:38
Speaker 7: and then we've also got female raining champion on the
48:41
Speaker 7: right there, Lisa Twinkletoes Shenton. Now, fun fact about Ben
48:45
Speaker 7: total destruction. He's been in the sport for twenty years
48:49
Speaker 7: and he had his toenails surgically removed to enable greater
48:54
Speaker 7: dexterity and mobility of his toes.
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Speaker 8: So people take this very serious.
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Speaker 1: He deserves to be champion for that kind of commitment.
49:02
Speaker 1: The sport was thought up in nineteen seventy four by
49:05
Speaker 1: a group of Brits at a pub who got Jack
49:07
Speaker 1: of England losing world championships, so they invented a world
49:10
Speaker 1: championship that they could dominate toe wrestling, presumably because no
49:14
Speaker 1: one else could be bothered.
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Speaker 6: Can you have a glass of milk before you do
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Speaker 6: this or is it a problem if you lack toes intolerance.
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Speaker 1: On that note, we're going to go stick around, coming
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Speaker 1: up with rita Peedehe very good, Caleb, good night.