Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 20th March 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's Friday, the twentieth of March twenty twenty six, just
- 0:11Speaker 2: after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your
- 0:13Speaker 2: host Mike Rumson. Joining me by video link today are
- 0:16Speaker 2: Patrick Hennison and Basil Valentine. Later in the program, Haikoku
- 0:21Speaker 2: is going to be joining us to take another look
- 0:23Speaker 2: at Palenteer and the pressures building to have them dropped
- 0:26Speaker 2: from the NHS contract. We're going to be covering the
- 0:29Speaker 2: release of the Gaza Tribunal report, claims of EU preparation
- 0:33Speaker 2: for war with the United States over Greenland, and OFFCOM
- 0:36Speaker 2: has been demanding money with menaces from foreign companies again.
- 0:40Speaker 2: But we're going to begin today with Patrick and the
- 0:44Speaker 2: latest on Iran. Patrick and well, it is day twenty one.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Yeah, it is amazing that we're now three weeks into
- 0:53Speaker 3: this war that we were told by the Trump administration,
- 0:59Speaker 3: by their their allies, by Israel, this would be over
- 1:01Speaker 3: very quickly. It would be days, they would topple the regime. Well,
- 1:05Speaker 3: here we are three weeks later and plans are afoot
- 1:08Speaker 3: to extend it for many weeks more. Nobody quite knows
- 1:12Speaker 3: what to expect here. So the main development this week,
- 1:17Speaker 3: Mike has been the war entering a new phase. Israel
- 1:21Speaker 3: struck the world's largest gas field. This is the South
- 1:24Speaker 3: Pars gas field shared by the Iranians and the Kataris
- 1:28Speaker 3: that supplies the world with a massive percentage of its
- 1:31Speaker 3: natural gas and L and G. Israel had the bright
- 1:34Speaker 3: idea to attack it, and Iran said in advance what
- 1:39Speaker 3: they would do if that happened, they would attack all
- 1:41Speaker 3: of the Gulf oil and gas infrastructure facilities around in
- 1:47Speaker 3: Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and Qatar, etc. UAE. And guess what.
- 1:52Speaker 3: That's exactly what the Iranians are doing. And now the
- 1:56Speaker 3: United States the Europeans are throwing their hands in there
- 1:58Speaker 3: saying wait, wait, wait, don't do that, don't do that.
- 2:01Speaker 3: This is going to destroy the global economy. This is
- 2:04Speaker 3: going to create a massive inflation spike for everything around
- 2:08Speaker 3: the world. Will these countries in the West be able
- 2:11Speaker 3: to withstand that level of shock? But I think it's
- 2:14Speaker 3: a bit too late for that, so things have developed.
- 2:17Speaker 3: It also conceivably could drag Turkey into this conflict a
- 2:21Speaker 3: bit more because they're heavily reliant on this natural gas
- 2:25Speaker 3: from this South Pars gas field here, So and this
- 2:30Speaker 3: is a story we'll bring up on screen here. Middle
- 2:33Speaker 3: East Research and Information Project a website which I follow
- 2:37Speaker 3: the wars cross boundaries perspectives on Iran and in the
- 2:41Speaker 3: region under siege. So this is now a regional war
- 2:45Speaker 3: effectively it was before, but now we're getting further down
- 2:48Speaker 3: that road. So that's a massive risk I think for
- 2:51Speaker 3: the rest of the world, and invariably my great powers
- 2:55Speaker 3: will be drawn in now to secure their interests. This
- 2:58Speaker 3: is how world wars be again, certainly this is how
- 3:01Speaker 3: the Second World War began. So this talk right now
- 3:05Speaker 3: that this can be contained, This is just a local
- 3:08Speaker 3: conflict that they can contain. This is just not credible.
- 3:13Speaker 3: It's not a credible argument at the moment here and
- 3:16Speaker 3: in terms of this how things could cascade regionally, I
- 3:19Speaker 3: want to put this report up on screen from twenty
- 3:22Speaker 3: first century WHI are again amazing work by Freddie ponton
- 3:25Speaker 3: inside the Caucus drone corridor fueling tensions with Iran. Now
- 3:29Speaker 3: we're talking about Azerbaijan. There is evidence that the US
- 3:34Speaker 3: and the Israelis are again using Azerbaijan as a corridor
- 3:39Speaker 3: to attack Iran. Irani naval ships have been hit in
- 3:42Speaker 3: the Caspian Sea and now Armenia as well looks like
- 3:45Speaker 3: it could be engaged. This is an incredibly well researched
- 3:49Speaker 3: piece and it just shows you the level of the
- 3:51Speaker 3: drone technology that's being used, how it's being used to
- 3:54Speaker 3: attack Iran, what types of drones, which countries produce these drones.
- 3:59Speaker 3: All of that data is in this excellent research piece
- 4:02Speaker 3: at twenty first century Wired dot Com. Again Freddie Ponton
- 4:06Speaker 3: doing great work. Incredible work. In fact. Now another stage, Mike,
- 4:10Speaker 3: is a stage of brutality that this conflict has gone into.
- 4:16Speaker 3: The Israelis, as you know, have a policy of targeted assassinations.
- 4:21Speaker 3: They have attacked and killed a rand supreme leader in
- 4:25Speaker 3: the opening days of this war. And now the Israeli
- 4:31Speaker 3: Defense Minister, Israel Katz will bring him up on screen.
- 4:33Speaker 3: Here a new doctrine has now come into play. Okay,
- 4:38Speaker 3: this is after they have assassinated this week Ali Larijani.
- 4:43Speaker 3: This is the head of the security, potential future leader
- 4:48Speaker 3: of the country. But this is one of the most
- 4:51Speaker 3: I think moderates in terms of ability to negotiate. The
- 4:55Speaker 3: Israelis are bragging that they killed him this week, as
- 4:58Speaker 3: well as the intelligence and this is what Israel. Katz
- 5:01Speaker 3: is saying, no one in Iran has immunity and everyone
- 5:05Speaker 3: is a target, and he goes on to say Iranian
- 5:08Speaker 3: intelligence Minister Katib was killed. We will continue to eliminate
- 5:13Speaker 3: and hunt them down. He's talking about every Iranian official.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Israel is claiming in the United States is backing this
- 5:20Speaker 3: up that they're terrorists. So if they're killing the Supreme Leader,
- 5:26Speaker 3: they're now targeting his son to anybody and this could
- 5:29Speaker 3: include at some point the President, members of Parliament, and
- 5:33Speaker 3: they're just going to hunt them down one by one.
- 5:36Speaker 3: So anybody who holds any office high office in Iran
- 5:41Speaker 3: is potentially going to be targeted and marked for killing,
- 5:45Speaker 3: assassination by Israel. This is total warfare. Okay, there's no
- 5:49Speaker 3: coming back from this. So if Israel is not restrained,
- 5:54Speaker 3: this is all but guaranteeing we're going to see a
- 5:56Speaker 3: bloody conflict that will not end in the negotiations, that
- 6:01Speaker 3: will only end on the battlefield. And who knows how
- 6:04Speaker 3: many dead civilians that's going to entail. That's what Israel.
- 6:07Speaker 3: That's the gauntlet they have laid down. Here. Where's the
- 6:10Speaker 3: United States? Where are the British on this? Where are
- 6:13Speaker 3: the Europeans. Is anybody going to weigh in, uh and
- 6:16Speaker 3: somehow draw this thing to some kind of a situation
- 6:20Speaker 3: where parties can negotiate or talk to each other. It
- 6:22Speaker 3: doesn't look likely.
- 6:25Speaker 1: We had a little bit of video there, Patrick.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Yes, this is a video from Israel cats, but this
- 6:31Speaker 3: is from uh. Well, listen closely. He's saying it here.
- 6:40Speaker 4: Self, Michelle Manilian before Larijani ambassili Usala one days all with.
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- 7:16Speaker 5: she is Gla gal Modin. Even if it's the lot
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- 7:42Speaker 3: So total escalation, total escalation, including Lebanon as well.
- 7:46Speaker 2: That's where we're at, absolutely, But it's not going all
- 7:50Speaker 2: the United States way anyway, or at least so if
- 7:53Speaker 2: we put this on screen, this is an F thirty five,
- 7:57Speaker 2: apparently with the missile heading towards it. So this fighter
- 8:00Speaker 2: was forced to divert from its combat mission. Over Iran
- 8:05Speaker 2: and make an emergency landing at an undisclosed US air
- 8:09Speaker 2: base in the Middle East. The story broke yesterday and
- 8:11Speaker 2: was eventually confirmed by the Pentagon, although not fully. US
- 8:15Speaker 2: officials have acknowledged the aircraft was hit by what is
- 8:18Speaker 2: believed to be Iranian far that's how they're describing it.
- 8:22Speaker 2: The pilot survived, and it's reported to be in a
- 8:24Speaker 2: stable condition in the hospital. This is the first F
- 8:27Speaker 2: thirty five shot down during a combat mission. Iran claimed
- 8:30Speaker 2: that it successfully struck the aircraft using its air defense systems.
- 8:34Speaker 2: And that's why even even a partial hit is significant
- 8:39Speaker 2: because if Iran, I'm not quoting from a comment online,
- 8:45Speaker 2: by the way, if Uranian air defenses were able to
- 8:47Speaker 2: track and strike a F thirty five, it could suggest
- 8:50Speaker 2: improvements in detection systems or exploitation of gaps in US operations.
- 8:55Speaker 2: It also challenges the perception that stealth aircraft can operate
- 8:59Speaker 2: in Iran impunity. So that was a quote that was
- 9:03Speaker 2: online and fairly good analysis. That's sixteen US aircraft have
- 9:08Speaker 2: been lost since the war began, that including multiple Reaper
- 9:11Speaker 2: drones shot down by Irinnan defenses. Of course, the three
- 9:15Speaker 2: fifteen fighters that were mistakenly shot down allegedly by Quity
- 9:20Speaker 2: air defenses, if that's what it was. And also the
- 9:23Speaker 2: case thirty five refilling aircraft which crashed in Western Iraq,
- 9:27Speaker 2: killing all six personnel on board, and now that latter
- 9:31Speaker 2: one was officially at least amid air collision, although Brian
- 9:35Speaker 2: Brian Gerrish at least absolutely is skeptical.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Of that claim.
- 9:39Speaker 2: We'll talk about more on that an extra But Patrick,
- 9:42Speaker 2: I just wondering if you've got any thoughts on this,
- 9:44Speaker 2: because obviously this is the first time in f thirty
- 9:47Speaker 2: five has been shot down in combat and it definitely
- 9:50Speaker 2: demonstrates that it is not immune from this kind of attack.
- 9:58Speaker 3: What the Rains have been saying that they have radar
- 10:01Speaker 3: systems and it has been shown that they are able
- 10:03Speaker 3: to detect with their own proprietary systems. They're able to
- 10:07Speaker 3: detect stealth aircraft and once the lock has been achieved,
- 10:13Speaker 3: then that that aircraft has to disengage and then mission
- 10:17Speaker 3: aboard it. Otherwise you know, they can be targeted up
- 10:20Speaker 3: to a range of five hundred miles so and if
- 10:23Speaker 3: you think about the combat distance mic of what it
- 10:25Speaker 3: takes to fly a mission, the limitations of an F
- 10:28Speaker 3: thirty five. The longer the radar perimeter for detection, the
- 10:33Speaker 3: less likely they can carry out missions without putting the
- 10:37Speaker 3: pilot and the plane at risk.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Okay, Patrick, what's been going on in the United States
- 10:43Speaker 2: has been We've obviously heard in the last couple of
- 10:45Speaker 2: days some pushback with at least one resignation.
- 10:49Speaker 1: But what tells the Cowbard been saying.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Well, it's this is the biggest story right now in
- 10:55Speaker 3: the United States. They just had the House hearing on
- 10:58Speaker 3: National Security threats. So you can see there's the dn
- 11:04Speaker 3: I Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbart, next to John Ratcliffe,
- 11:08Speaker 3: the CIA director Cash Bettel, as well FBI director. So
- 11:13Speaker 3: Tolsey Gabart was really her feet were put to the
- 11:16Speaker 3: fire because her office basically, well, Congress and Senate lawmakers
- 11:23Speaker 3: are saying, well, you know, there's no evidence of an
- 11:25Speaker 3: imminent threat that Iran was going to attack. Did your office, TULSI,
- 11:29Speaker 3: have any evidence of this? And here, well, you can
- 11:33Speaker 3: watch this dramatic exchange for yourself. I mean, this is
- 11:36Speaker 3: just an incredibly important, I think exchange right here between
- 11:41Speaker 3: the senator from Georgia, John Ossoff, and Tulci Gabart Trump's
- 11:47Speaker 3: and I watch.
- 11:50Speaker 6: Under the law, you are responsible for providing national intelligence
- 11:53Speaker 6: to the President. Correct yes, And to the heads of
- 11:58Speaker 6: executive branch departments and agencies.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Yes.
- 12:00Speaker 6: Yes, And to the chairman of ad joint chiefs and
- 12:02Speaker 6: senior military commanders across the ices, and to the Senate
- 12:08Speaker 6: and the House and relevant committees.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Correct. Yes.
- 12:11Speaker 6: And the law states that the national intelligence you provide
- 12:13Speaker 6: to Congress quote should be timely, objective, and independent of
- 12:17Speaker 6: political considerations.
- 12:18Speaker 3: Correct. Yes.
- 12:20Speaker 6: And you noted in your opening statement you're here fulfilling
- 12:22Speaker 6: a statutory responsibility and that your testimony quote represents the
- 12:27Speaker 6: IC's assessment of threats.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Correct.
- 12:30Speaker 6: That opening statement, as submitted to the committee in advance
- 12:33Speaker 6: of this hearing, stated that as a result of last
- 12:36Speaker 6: summer's air strikes quote, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated
- 12:42Speaker 6: end quote.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Correct. Right.
- 12:44Speaker 6: And is that, in fact the assessment of the intelligence community. Yes,
- 12:48Speaker 6: So the assessment of the intelligence community is that Iran's
- 12:51Speaker 6: nuclear enrichment program was obliterated by last summer's air strikes.
- 12:54Speaker 7: Yes.
- 12:56Speaker 6: And the opening statement you submitted to the committee last
- 12:58Speaker 6: night also stated, quote, there has been no efforts since
- 13:01Speaker 6: then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability end quote. Correct,
- 13:05Speaker 6: that's right, and that's the assessment of the intelligence community. Yes,
- 13:10Speaker 6: the White House stated on March first of this year
- 13:12Speaker 6: that this war was launched and was quote a military
- 13:16Speaker 6: campaign to eliminate the imminent nuclear threat posed by the
- 13:20Speaker 6: Iranian regime.
- 13:21Speaker 3: End quote.
- 13:22Speaker 6: That's a statement from the white House. Quote the imminent
- 13:25Speaker 6: nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime. Was it the
- 13:29Speaker 6: assessment of the intelligence community that there was an imminent
- 13:32Speaker 6: nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime?
- 13:36Speaker 8: The intelligence community assessed that Iran maintained the intention to
- 13:41Speaker 8: rebuild and to continue to grow their nuclear enrichment.
- 13:44Speaker 6: Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there
- 13:47Speaker 6: was a quote imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime?
- 13:51Speaker 3: Yes?
- 13:51Speaker 8: Or no. Senator, the only person who can determine and
- 13:54Speaker 8: what is and is not an imminent threat is the president.
- 13:57Speaker 9: False.
- 13:57Speaker 6: This this is the Worldwide Threats Hearing or you present
- 14:00Speaker 6: to Congress national intelligence, timely, objective, and independent of political considerations.
- 14:06Speaker 6: You've stated today that the intelligence community's assessment is that
- 14:10Speaker 6: Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated, and that quote there
- 14:14Speaker 6: had been no efforts since then to try to rebuild
- 14:17Speaker 6: their enrichment capability.
- 14:19Speaker 10: Was it the.
- 14:19Speaker 6: Intelligence community's assessment that, nevertheless, despite this obliteration, there was
- 14:26Speaker 6: a quote imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime.
- 14:29Speaker 3: Yes or no?
- 14:29Speaker 8: It is not the intelligence community's responsibility to determine what
- 14:33Speaker 8: is and is not an imminent threat.
- 14:35Speaker 11: That is up.
- 14:35Speaker 6: Here's the problem volume it is. It is precisely, it
- 14:39Speaker 6: is precisely your responsibility to determine what constitutes a threat
- 14:44Speaker 6: to the United States. This is the Worldwide Threats Hearing.
- 14:48Speaker 6: Where As you noted in your opening testimony, quote you
- 14:54Speaker 6: represent the IC's assessment of threats. You are here to
- 14:58Speaker 6: represent the i SES assessment of threats. That's a quote
- 15:03Speaker 6: from your own opening statement. And so my question is,
- 15:07Speaker 6: as you're here to present the ICES assessment of threats,
- 15:12Speaker 6: was it the assessment of the intelligence community that, as
- 15:16Speaker 6: the White House claimed on March first, there was a
- 15:19Speaker 6: quote imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime?
- 15:22Speaker 3: Yes or no?
- 15:23Speaker 8: Once again, Senator, the intelligence community has provided the inputs
- 15:29Speaker 8: that make up this annual threat assessment. You want to
- 15:31Speaker 8: answer the question nature of the imminent threat that the
- 15:34Speaker 8: President has to make that determination based on a collection
- 15:38Speaker 8: and volume. You're here to be intelligence that he.
- 15:41Speaker 4: Is created with.
- 15:42Speaker 6: You're here to be timely, objective and independent of political consideration.
- 15:46Speaker 8: Exactly what I'm doing.
- 15:48Speaker 6: No, you're evading a question because to provide a candid
- 15:52Speaker 6: response to the committee would contradict a statement from the
- 15:56Speaker 6: White House.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Wow. So that was repeated Mike three times by other
- 16:05Speaker 3: senators during this So Tulsi really got it during these
- 16:08Speaker 3: hearings here. So basically she's saying that Donald Trump can
- 16:11Speaker 3: declare an imminent threat no matter what the intelligence community says,
- 16:15Speaker 3: So what's the point of having an intelligence assessment? That's
- 16:18Speaker 3: what they're saying here. And just to back this up
- 16:20Speaker 3: on the British side here will bring this is Jonathan Powell.
- 16:23Speaker 3: He is a UK security advisor here. He attended the
- 16:27Speaker 3: US Iranian talks and he can confirm there was a
- 16:32Speaker 3: deal on the table. Iran was making massive concessions and
- 16:36Speaker 3: again if you back that up with the US intelligence
- 16:39Speaker 3: community own assessment that they weren't pursuing a nuclear weapon,
- 16:43Speaker 3: they had no intention of doing that. So that's the
- 16:46Speaker 3: gist of it.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Now.
- 16:48Speaker 3: At the same time, a massive resignation, the first major
- 16:51Speaker 3: resignation here, the counter Terrorism chief. His name is Joe Kent.
- 16:55Speaker 3: He resigned very publicly right before this hearing here, and
- 17:00Speaker 3: he's saying, after much reflection, I've decided to resign as
- 17:03Speaker 3: director of National counter Terrorism Center. He works for Toulsi Gabbard.
- 17:07Speaker 3: This is in her department. Here he says, I cannot
- 17:10Speaker 3: in good conscious support and ongoing war in Iran. Iran
- 17:13Speaker 3: poses no imminent threat to our nation. And it's clear
- 17:18Speaker 3: that we started this war due to pressure from Israel,
- 17:22Speaker 3: and it's a powerful American lobby. So I mean, this
- 17:27Speaker 3: has sent massive shock waves right through the system in
- 17:31Speaker 3: the US and it really makes Tulsi Gabbard look like
- 17:34Speaker 3: she's running cover for an illegal war that's been waged
- 17:38Speaker 3: by the White House and Israel. And now this is
- 17:41Speaker 3: the conversation that's now elevated in America. Here is Joe Kent.
- 17:46Speaker 3: He's doing media interviews now and he's being attacked by Fox.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Everybody's attacking him, his wife, etc. So this is the
- 17:55Speaker 3: first of two clips. But here he is basically saying,
- 17:59Speaker 3: framing that you have a serious problem in Washington regarding intelligence,
- 18:04Speaker 3: especially as it pertains to Iran.
- 18:07Speaker 10: But listen closely, so imminent threat you're saying that there
- 18:14Speaker 10: was no intelligence that you saw with the highest level
- 18:18Speaker 10: clearance obviously involved in this conversation that showed an imminent
- 18:22Speaker 10: threat from Iran to the United States.
- 18:24Speaker 11: No, unless we took certain actions, unless we came after
- 18:27Speaker 11: them in a way that they thought threat in the regime,
- 18:30Speaker 11: then we basically knew what they were.
- 18:32Speaker 4: Going to do.
- 18:33Speaker 11: Of course, like any country, So if you attack any country,
- 18:36Speaker 11: we know that they're going to have a right action.
- 18:37Speaker 10: We faced an threat once we attack you.
- 18:39Speaker 11: Fantastic, Yeah, exactly. But there was no intelligence that said, hey,
- 18:43Speaker 11: on whatever day it was, March first, the Iranians are
- 18:46Speaker 11: going to launch this big sneak attack. They're going to
- 18:48Speaker 11: do some kind of a nine eleven Pearl Harbor, et cetera.
- 18:50Speaker 11: They're going to attack one of our bases. There was
- 18:53Speaker 11: none of that intelligence. Again, back to what we know
- 18:55Speaker 11: about the Iranians, they're very, very deliberate with the escalation ladder.
- 19:02Speaker 3: So what you have here is another fake WMD, another
- 19:06Speaker 3: war waged with a fake WMD claim by the US government.
- 19:12Speaker 3: And he goes on to make a number of excellent points.
- 19:15Speaker 3: But let's look at his letter real quick. The next
- 19:17Speaker 3: point is perhaps more explosive. We take a closer look
- 19:20Speaker 3: at that, and specifically, we're going to look at this
- 19:23Speaker 3: section here and we'll just blow that up a little
- 19:26Speaker 3: bit more. There we are, early in this administration, high
- 19:29Speaker 3: ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media
- 19:33Speaker 3: deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your America First platform.
- 19:39Speaker 3: He's talking to the president in this resignation letter here,
- 19:42Speaker 3: so pro war sentiments encourage a war with Iran. This
- 19:45Speaker 3: echo chamber was used to deceive you, the President, into
- 19:49Speaker 3: believing that Iran posed an imminent threat to the United
- 19:52Speaker 3: States and that you should strike now there was a
- 19:55Speaker 3: clear path to a swift victory. This was a lie.
- 20:00Speaker 3: And this is the same tack at the Israelis used
- 20:02Speaker 3: to draw us into the disastrous Iraq war that cost
- 20:06Speaker 3: our nation the lives of thousands of our best men
- 20:08Speaker 3: and women. We cannot make this mistake again. Now, just
- 20:12Speaker 3: to really pad out that. Listen to what he says
- 20:16Speaker 3: now about how Israel has been injecting fake intelligence into
- 20:21Speaker 3: the US system, and this is what Tulsey Gabbard's job
- 20:25Speaker 3: is meant to prevent. Yet Tulsi seems to be a
- 20:28Speaker 3: gatekeeper for what he's about to explain here. But listen
- 20:32Speaker 3: to this. This is explosive.
- 20:36Speaker 10: And just to be clear, there was no intelligence that
- 20:38Speaker 10: showed iminent threat. There was no intelligence that showed there
- 20:41Speaker 10: on the cusp of building a nuclear weapon. There's no
- 20:42Speaker 10: intelligence indeed that show they were trying to build a
- 20:44Speaker 10: nuclear weapon. And nobody, you know, said I've seen it,
- 20:50Speaker 10: but you haven't. It exists, but you just haven't seen it.
- 20:53Speaker 10: Did you ever hear anybody say there is intel that
- 20:55Speaker 10: shows this.
- 20:56Speaker 1: I did not know, but I know how this works.
- 20:58Speaker 11: I know the Israeli officials intelligence and in government will
- 21:01Speaker 11: come to US government officials and they will say all
- 21:06Speaker 11: kinds of things that we know from our intelligence just
- 21:09Speaker 11: simply isn't true. And they'll say, hey, I'm giving you
- 21:11Speaker 11: a preview. It's not an intelligence channels yet, but here's
- 21:14Speaker 11: what's going to happen, and that doesn't usually come.
- 21:16Speaker 10: To Wait wait a second, I mean I thought that
- 21:19Speaker 10: US policymakers made their decisions on the basis of intelligence
- 21:24Speaker 10: collected and or vetted by our intelligence. That's what we
- 21:28Speaker 10: have intelligence agencies that soak up hundreds of billions a year.
- 21:32Speaker 10: But you're saying that Israeli officials short circuited the entire
- 21:36Speaker 10: US government and just went right to American policymakers and said,
- 21:41Speaker 10: it doesn't matter what your country says, here's what we know.
- 21:44Speaker 12: Mean.
- 21:44Speaker 11: Usually they're they're pretty slack and they'll say, hey, this
- 21:47Speaker 11: isn't an intelligence channels yet because it's it's going to
- 21:50Speaker 11: take some time to get there. And here they're on
- 21:53Speaker 11: the cost of building a bomb. You know, they're they're
- 21:55Speaker 11: going to I don't know, you pick your topic. A
- 21:58Speaker 11: lot of times, they'll sample different things until they find
- 22:00Speaker 11: what sticks. But in general, the narrative about you know,
- 22:03Speaker 11: they're going to do a premptive attack, or really just
- 22:06Speaker 11: they're going to build a nuclear weapon and if we
- 22:08Speaker 11: don't stop them now, they're going to build a nuclear weapon,
- 22:11Speaker 11: and enrichment is the pathway to that. They're going to
- 22:14Speaker 11: continue enriching at whatever percent enrichment became the narrative and
- 22:19Speaker 11: so that hung up in that short circuited and really
- 22:21Speaker 11: sabotaged the entire negotiations because the Iranians basically said, like,
- 22:25Speaker 11: we're not going to negotiate if the if the whole
- 22:28Speaker 11: starting point is no enrichment, and again that had nothing
- 22:31Speaker 11: to do with a nuclear weapon, and the Iranians essentially
- 22:33Speaker 11: agreed to that. So the Israelis came in, they move
- 22:36Speaker 11: that red line, and they would do a lot to
- 22:38Speaker 11: say like, oh, they're enriching and you know what that means.
- 22:40Speaker 11: That means in X amount of time they could have
- 22:42Speaker 11: a nuclear bomb. You have to ask now. And then
- 22:44Speaker 11: the way the ecosystem would work is that the talking
- 22:47Speaker 11: heads on TV, you know, your Mark levinz, Sean Hannity's,
- 22:50Speaker 11: et cetera, they would say basically the exact same thing
- 22:53Speaker 11: that night on TV, or there would be a you know,
- 22:55Speaker 11: a piece written in the Wall Street Journal, the New
- 22:57Speaker 11: York Times that would say something very very similar. Yet
- 23:00Speaker 11: if you looked in classified intelligence, we didn't see any
- 23:04Speaker 11: of that.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Now, what Joe Kent's talking about is a conspiracy. They're
- 23:11Speaker 3: hitting policymakers, they're hitting the White House, and they're also
- 23:15Speaker 3: hitting the media at exactly the same time to create
- 23:18Speaker 3: the impression of a consensus about something that's people are
- 23:23Speaker 3: claiming to be happening but isn't actually happening. So, I mean,
- 23:28Speaker 3: this is just absolutely incredible here. And there's just so
- 23:31Speaker 3: many examples that have come out this week, might including
- 23:34Speaker 3: this one that go against all the claims that are
- 23:37Speaker 3: being made by Pete heg Seth, Donald Trump, and Marco Rubio.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Trump was warned, it's confirmed by multiple sources of a
- 23:46Speaker 3: likely Iranian retaliation on golf allies, if there's any attacks
- 23:51Speaker 3: on Iran's energy infrastructure, that there would be retaliation, but
- 23:56Speaker 3: also that they would retaliate against US basis. And that's
- 23:59Speaker 3: exactly what happened. So the White House is saying that, well,
- 24:02Speaker 3: we had no idea foreseeing that Iran would attack US bases,
- 24:06Speaker 3: We didn't have any intelligence. Well that's not true. They
- 24:08Speaker 3: absolutely did. So I mean, it's just one thing after another.
- 24:11Speaker 3: Now here's the last thing. And I have to thank
- 24:13Speaker 3: the Grayson for this report. And this is shows you
- 24:17Speaker 3: how bad the fake intelligence has infected Washington. Here how
- 24:22Speaker 3: Israel and the FBI manipulated assassination plots to go Trump
- 24:27Speaker 3: into the Iran war. So, and we'll break this down
- 24:32Speaker 3: a little bit here, but Max Blumenthal wrote this piece.
- 24:34Speaker 3: Officials have yet to produce any evidence that Iran played
- 24:38Speaker 3: a role in either of these alleged attempts on Trump's life.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Yet since those fateful events, Israel aligned Trump advisors Israeli intelligence.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Prime Minister Netanyahu himself have gone to extreme lengths to
- 24:51Speaker 3: order to make this tied to Tehran these assassination plots.
- 24:56Speaker 3: More shocking stills the fact that, get this, the FBI
- 24:59Speaker 3: has made manufactured a series of assassination plots, successfully convincing
- 25:05Speaker 3: Trump that Iran was hunting him on US soil with
- 25:09Speaker 3: highly sophisticated teams of hitmen. All of this was fabricated.
- 25:12Speaker 3: In fact, this last fake plot is all basically has
- 25:17Speaker 3: been ginned up using FBI informants. Okay, so now we
- 25:21Speaker 3: have the details of this, and this includes ties to
- 25:25Speaker 3: although it needs more analysis to what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania,
- 25:29Speaker 3: the assassination attempt on Trump during the twenty twenty four campaign.
- 25:36Speaker 3: So a lot of this is shrouded in a sort
- 25:39Speaker 3: of nebulous bureaucracy by the FBI in this case. But
- 25:43Speaker 3: this is just absolutely stunning. This revelation here, excellent report
- 25:49Speaker 3: by Max Blumenthal at the Grey Zone, but it just
- 25:51Speaker 3: shows you how corrupt this is. And it's not the
- 25:55Speaker 3: first time like that we've seen this. If you read
- 25:58Speaker 3: Trevor Aronson's Terror Factory, you'll see just reams of these
- 26:01Speaker 3: fake terror plots on US soil that are used to
- 26:06Speaker 3: basically bolster whatever the administration's policies are and extract public
- 26:12Speaker 3: relations currency from it.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Patrick. Now let's move on then
- 26:18Speaker 1: to Volunteer and now Wednesday's program, we showed this.
- 26:22Speaker 2: Article here a beggar's belief mod sources Warren Palanteer's rule
- 26:26Speaker 2: at the heart of government is a threat to UK security. Now,
- 26:31Speaker 2: this of course is adding some momentum to the campaign
- 26:35Speaker 2: to get Polunteer out of the NHS.
- 26:38Speaker 1: But Basil, let me welcome you to the program.
- 26:40Speaker 2: First, just give us the latest on this and also
- 26:45Speaker 2: tell us about the graphic that was attached to that
- 26:49Speaker 2: particular article covering the shareholder, the companies that have shareholdings
- 26:53Speaker 2: and Palaeer.
- 26:55Speaker 7: Hello Mike, great to be with you. Well, we joined
- 26:58Speaker 7: in a couple of minutes by Koku, the academic who
- 27:02Speaker 7: is one of the lead campaigners to get all Palenteer
- 27:06Speaker 7: contracts with the British government canceled because this farrago continues
- 27:12Speaker 7: to mushroom. Yes, it turns out that large British pension
- 27:20Speaker 7: companies are invested in Pallenteer.
- 27:25Speaker 1: First of all Legal and General who.
- 27:28Speaker 7: Provide pensions for, amongst others, Tesco and some of Britain's
- 27:33Speaker 7: other biggest corporate employers. They've got about one point six
- 27:38Speaker 7: billion invested in Paneteer apparently, So you know, this is
- 27:46Speaker 7: you know, really starting to undermine the company's credibility and
- 27:50Speaker 7: indeed the credibility of those companies.
- 27:52Speaker 1: That support it.
- 27:55Speaker 7: Something else, really very disturbing has come to light, and
- 27:59Speaker 7: this is a cli of Yanis Vera Facis, the former
- 28:02Speaker 7: Greek finance minister, speaking to Raleigh A. Karleek a few
- 28:08Speaker 7: days ago about how intelligence gathered data gathered from atrocities
- 28:15Speaker 7: taking place in Gaza is going to be reworked and
- 28:21Speaker 7: use as a model for aspects of the NHS. This
- 28:26Speaker 7: really is very ghoulish stuff, particularly when you bear in
- 28:29Speaker 7: mind company chairman Peter Thiel's obsession with the Antichrist is
- 28:34Speaker 7: in Rome giving lectures about the Antichrist, much to the
- 28:38Speaker 7: consternation of the Vatican. But let's see this clip. Janis
- 28:43Speaker 7: Veri Factis, who still of course operates at a high level,
- 28:47Speaker 7: and this is really off the charts.
- 28:53Speaker 3: I was sitting next to a palanteer.
- 28:59Speaker 9: Signed this engineer whatever you might call them, dinner and
- 29:04Speaker 9: the conversation with other people around the table was about
- 29:08Speaker 9: Gaza and this phone.
- 29:11Speaker 3: This gentleman next to me.
- 29:14Speaker 9: Suddenly started experiencing a kind of excitement having heard the
- 29:20Speaker 9: word Gaza. I don't think he listened to what the
- 29:22Speaker 9: conversation was. He was talking to somebody else, and he said, oh, Gaza,
- 29:27Speaker 9: the Gasa was fantastic for us. He meant Palentre and
- 29:31Speaker 9: I said, yeah, well, yeah, what tens of thousands of
- 29:33Speaker 9: children being named and killed was.
- 29:35Speaker 3: Fantastic, you know. He said no, no, no, that was terrible.
- 29:37Speaker 9: But and he pointed at my phone, which was sitting
- 29:41Speaker 9: on the table, of course idle, and he said, your
- 29:44Speaker 9: phone now is useless to me because it's not moving,
- 29:47Speaker 9: it's not going anywhere. If it's a stationary doesn't produce data.
- 29:51Speaker 9: But if you bombard a densely populated area, people their
- 29:55Speaker 9: phones run around a lot to produce a lot of data.
- 29:58Speaker 9: To pick up a phone, they call the relatives that
- 30:01Speaker 9: try to find out if their loved ones are maimed
- 30:05Speaker 9: or dead or alive or whatever. And we train, that's
- 30:09Speaker 9: what he said. We train our AI programs on this
- 30:13Speaker 9: wealth of data that came out of Gaza. In circumstances
- 30:18Speaker 9: that create panic and said, yeah, okay, can.
- 30:20Speaker 3: You explain to me what did you get out of that?
- 30:22Speaker 9: He said, well, we just sold a program, an AI program,
- 30:26Speaker 9: to the British National Health Service for one billion pounds.
- 30:29Speaker 9: And then I found out that it was done through
- 30:30Speaker 9: the Tony Blair Institute, right involving Tony Blair's son, to
- 30:34Speaker 9: the National Health Service in Britain. And what they're going
- 30:37Speaker 9: to be using this program that was trained on the
- 30:40Speaker 9: death and destruction of people in NA what is trained
- 30:44Speaker 9: to do is to help organize British hospitals in cases
- 30:49Speaker 9: of emergencies when you know nurses and doctors and so
- 30:52Speaker 9: own panic. So you can see this is the first
- 30:54Speaker 9: time in human history that you don't simply have the
- 30:57Speaker 9: arms traight where arms dealers make a lot of money
- 30:59Speaker 9: from say weapons that kill people.
- 31:02Speaker 4: No.
- 31:03Speaker 9: Here, the actual killing of the people, the people running
- 31:06Speaker 9: around injured without buying anything, their movements, their screams, the agony,
- 31:14Speaker 9: their pain is training AI, which then allows people like
- 31:18Speaker 9: the generalmans next to me, through the Donny Blair Institute
- 31:22Speaker 9: UH to sell to a national public health service.
- 31:32Speaker 7: Haikoku joins us now from outside Palenteers headquarters in Soho
- 31:38Speaker 7: Square in London. Hiko, welcome to the program. I don't
- 31:42Speaker 7: know if you've heard the clip of John it's very
- 31:44Speaker 7: effect you speaking there, or if you've seen it before.
- 31:49Speaker 12: Yeah, I did see a few days ago. It's typical
- 31:53Speaker 12: of the type of operations of this company behind us.
- 31:56Speaker 12: It's the global center for what can only be this
- 32:00Speaker 12: described as demonic types of control over AI. And it
- 32:04Speaker 12: seems to me that these people, through their combination between money,
- 32:09Speaker 12: intelligence agents connections out offici intelligence, have literally lost the
- 32:14Speaker 12: plot completely. And imagine that they're about to reform the
- 32:19Speaker 12: entire planet based upon some kind of psychopathic ideal of
- 32:24Speaker 12: total control over information in order to facilitate a few
- 32:30Speaker 12: elite vanguard leaders Peter Tiel, Alex carp and a few
- 32:35Speaker 12: others around the Lewis Moseley they've got here in London
- 32:39Speaker 12: who will administer the world. That's the type of mindset
- 32:43Speaker 12: these people live in.
- 32:47Speaker 7: I find it absolutely extraordinary that human suffering is being
- 32:54Speaker 7: reworked into something for a health service. I mean, the
- 32:58Speaker 7: British public completely unaware of this. If they weren't, there
- 33:03Speaker 7: would be if they were to be aware of it
- 33:06Speaker 7: would naturally be appalled isn't even strong enough language. I
- 33:11Speaker 7: think we really need to amplify this Hiko and make
- 33:16Speaker 7: it central to the campaign to get all their contracts canceled,
- 33:20Speaker 7: every single one.
- 33:23Speaker 12: I mean, I think it's quite true that suffering hasn't
- 33:27Speaker 12: been used in that with the First World War was
- 33:29Speaker 12: used to generate a lot of information about healthcare provision
- 33:34Speaker 12: and amputations and making prosthetic equipment and all this sort
- 33:39Speaker 12: of thing. So warfare has often kind of been used
- 33:41Speaker 12: in this way. The key transition point here is the
- 33:45Speaker 12: whole COVID saga. When they closed down the entire planet.
- 33:49Speaker 12: This company raced around Britain and America introducing jobs as
- 33:55Speaker 12: rapidly as possible with experimental vaccines that cause huge heart
- 34:00Speaker 12: around the world. And this was if you like, their
- 34:03Speaker 12: launching pad to become the generic agent to go to
- 34:09Speaker 12: agent for artificial intelligence across the board in public sector spheres.
- 34:14Speaker 12: And the interesting thing is they didn't even operate as
- 34:17Speaker 12: a genuinely capitalist company for ten years and more, they
- 34:20Speaker 12: made no profits whatsoever, and only after massive government contracts
- 34:24Speaker 12: in other words, state subsidies, do they end up finally
- 34:27Speaker 12: being in a position where they can be the central
- 34:30Speaker 12: lever of international global surveillance, monitoring and slaughter around the world.
- 34:39Speaker 12: That's the game they're playing, and they're combining all these
- 34:42Speaker 12: different elements military data as a generic force within government efficiency,
- 34:49Speaker 12: healthcare and all the consequent relations between biology and DNA
- 34:56Speaker 12: and all the rest of it, which all these major
- 34:59Speaker 12: corporations are in as they did, and so it's a
- 35:01Speaker 12: totalistic vision of controlling the world through data.
- 35:07Speaker 7: No surprise that Tony Blair's name popped up in that
- 35:11Speaker 7: report and that the Tony Blair Institute may have been
- 35:14Speaker 7: instrumental in getting pallenteered that contract. But the British government's
- 35:18Speaker 7: obsession with this company goes all the way back to
- 35:21Speaker 7: twenty sixteen. Michael Gove, who paid the way for some
- 35:25Speaker 7: of the first contracts. Why is it that the UK
- 35:28Speaker 7: government is obsessed with handing all these contracts to a
- 35:32Speaker 7: company tied to Epstein. He was an early investor, and
- 35:37Speaker 7: with this ghoulish view of the human future.
- 35:41Speaker 6: I go.
- 35:43Speaker 12: I think you basically have to look at Israel and
- 35:46Speaker 12: the associations between Israel and the Zionist entity and its
- 35:51Speaker 12: allies and its influence to understand why such corporations which
- 35:56Speaker 12: weren't making profit, should have been closed down years ago,
- 35:58Speaker 12: should have gone bankrupt years ago. Why they are still
- 36:01Speaker 12: operational and how they became so influential and powerful around
- 36:05Speaker 12: the world. It's all interconnected with the role of Israel
- 36:10Speaker 12: around the world and its influence around the world. And
- 36:12Speaker 12: of course that once you tie those threads together, that
- 36:15Speaker 12: connects together Epstein, that connects together mand Ors, and that
- 36:17Speaker 12: connects together Tony Blair, that connects it together. And of
- 36:21Speaker 12: course the man they've got, this man now talking about
- 36:24Speaker 12: the Antichrist. Peter Teel was the main sponsor. He created JD.
- 36:31Speaker 12: Vans and JD Vance is supposed to be the man
- 36:33Speaker 12: who takes over after Donald Trump. So here you see
- 36:37Speaker 12: this man who talks about the Antichrist is trying to
- 36:39Speaker 12: manufacture one.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Patrick.
- 36:43Speaker 7: Would you like to ask Naiker question?
- 36:47Speaker 3: I just think, Hiker, what can what can the public do?
- 36:52Speaker 3: How can they support you? Know what you're doing out there.
- 36:55Speaker 3: I know that a lot of you have been very
- 36:57Speaker 3: dedicated to this issue. Here are more people getting involved
- 37:01Speaker 3: and becoming aware of what's going on here.
- 37:04Speaker 12: It's something I've had in my mind for a year
- 37:07Speaker 12: and more. But I was, to be honest with you,
- 37:10Speaker 12: I was scared to do it because for a long time,
- 37:13Speaker 12: if you're on your own and you start a protest
- 37:15Speaker 12: against Palentier, then you asking for big trouble.
- 37:18Speaker 3: You know.
- 37:18Speaker 12: I saw that picture the video yesterday of Steve Sweeney
- 37:21Speaker 12: being blown a bomb dropping right behind him. That's almost
- 37:24Speaker 12: certainly a Palenteer type operation, and therefore I was a
- 37:28Speaker 12: little bit concerned about it. But nevertheless, because the tide
- 37:31Speaker 12: seems to have turned after the late last release of
- 37:34Speaker 12: the Epstein files and the connection between Peter Manderson, care
- 37:38Speaker 12: Starmer and Palenteer behind us was clearly established. I think
- 37:42Speaker 12: they're on the back foot and the Israelis are also
- 37:45Speaker 12: on the back foot. So if there's any time to
- 37:48Speaker 12: take them on and destroy their power, it is now,
- 37:51Speaker 12: and I think that over the summer. The good thing
- 37:53Speaker 12: about them making the mistake of planting themselves in Soho
- 37:57Speaker 12: Square is this is a big square. Show you around it,
- 38:00Speaker 12: cause for the viewers who don't know, it's quite a
- 38:03Speaker 12: big square. It's very popular in the summertime, and it's
- 38:06Speaker 12: a square which is in the center of London's entertainment district,
- 38:10Speaker 12: and so there will be hundreds of thousands of people
- 38:12Speaker 12: passing through here. On a regular basis, and we're making music.
- 38:17Speaker 12: We want to have a dance, We want to create
- 38:19Speaker 12: an atmosphere of a festival type feeling that people question
- 38:24Speaker 12: how AI has ended up not only taken away the
- 38:28Speaker 12: jobs in this area, which is the main media, arts
- 38:30Speaker 12: and music area, but also in threatening the lives of
- 38:34Speaker 12: the whole of humanity and the freedom of the whole
- 38:36Speaker 12: of humanity. And it's not even hidden by them. They've
- 38:39Speaker 12: openly declared these things. They are making war on humanity itself.
- 38:43Speaker 12: And therefore I think this can become a beating heart
- 38:46Speaker 12: of resistance, almost like a woodstock if you like, over
- 38:50Speaker 12: the next year or so. And Palanteer is sensitive to this.
- 38:55Speaker 12: They had protests in Denver and they closed their office
- 38:57Speaker 12: in Denver and moved to Florida only last month. So
- 39:02Speaker 12: I know, we don't want them to close down here
- 39:04Speaker 12: and move somewhere else. We want to shut them down completely.
- 39:08Speaker 12: So we adding protests here every Thursday four o'clock. We're
- 39:11Speaker 12: having speak outs and Speaker's Corner. But really it's going
- 39:14Speaker 12: to take off in the summertime, and it's gradually taken off.
- 39:18Speaker 7: That's great to hear, and if people can't make it
- 39:20Speaker 7: to so hot Square. Where else can they find out
- 39:22Speaker 7: about the campaign? Hiko, Well, I'm posting.
- 39:25Speaker 12: Most of the stuff on my own substack, so it's
- 39:27Speaker 12: hi co h E I k O k HW dot
- 39:31Speaker 12: substack dot com. That's what I'm posting stuff. And there
- 39:33Speaker 12: are be lots of new songs on there. I've been
- 39:36Speaker 12: making songs and they're really I'd say they're very cool.
- 39:42Speaker 7: Thank you, thanks so much for joining us, Hich, go
- 39:44Speaker 7: back to you make.
- 39:46Speaker 2: Thank you Basil, Thank you Hiker, and thanks Patrick as well.
- 39:49Speaker 2: Now Patrick has come back to you then.
- 39:51Speaker 1: And the question of Gaza, sorry that Israel versus Russia.
- 39:58Speaker 3: Well this is really a along the line to the
- 40:00Speaker 3: Pall and Teers story. Here we're talking about AI and
- 40:03Speaker 3: how this has been used on the battlefield here, but
- 40:06Speaker 3: not just that internationally. Here another great piece by the
- 40:09Speaker 3: Gray Zone. This is by Wyatt Reid. Now this is interesting.
- 40:13Speaker 3: This is a military spokesperson from Israel IDEF threatens elimination
- 40:18Speaker 3: for Russian leaders who wish Israel ill. Now that's incredible.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Let's look at that a little bit closer. A spokesperson
- 40:26Speaker 3: from the IDF has drawn outrage in Moscow after threatening
- 40:31Speaker 3: that Russian authorities who wish Israel ill could be subject
- 40:34Speaker 3: to elimination, suggesting that Israel could hack into Russia close
- 40:39Speaker 3: circuit television cameras around the capitol to identify and track targets.
- 40:45Speaker 3: And just further on this, asked by a journalist with
- 40:49Speaker 3: one of the Russian radio broadcasters here regarding this threat
- 40:54Speaker 3: here in Israel, do they actually have access to Russian
- 40:58Speaker 3: traffic cameras and CCTV works here? And the response here
- 41:02Speaker 3: was they declined to answer, but said Kamani's Iranian leaders,
- 41:06Speaker 3: elimination shows our capabilities are serious. No one who wishes
- 41:11Speaker 3: us harm will be left aside. This is what she
- 41:14Speaker 3: says here and mash this is I think this is
- 41:18Speaker 3: a Middle Eastern media outlet or a Russian tech outlet here,
- 41:22Speaker 3: but they revealed that the Israeli software firm Briefcamp has
- 41:27Speaker 3: been used in Russia by private providers since twenty tens.
- 41:32Speaker 3: Is founded by Israel's Hebrew University. BriefCam uses AI to
- 41:36Speaker 3: let users review hours of video in minutes and make
- 41:40Speaker 3: their video searchable, actionable, quantifiable using AI tools. Here are
- 41:44Speaker 3: some of the firms, some big names, as an example
- 41:48Speaker 3: of who is integrated with BriefCam here. You've got Salient
- 41:53Speaker 3: Bosh variant among others here that have fully integrated and
- 41:59Speaker 3: using briefcamps systems here. So this is an Israeli company
- 42:02Speaker 3: and the IDEF threatening to weaponize this technology here. And
- 42:06Speaker 3: just finally to go back, this was developed originally by
- 42:11Speaker 3: Israel's Ministry of Housing Construction to safeguard illegal settlements and
- 42:15Speaker 3: occupied East Jerusalem here. And the governments who are using
- 42:19Speaker 3: this around the world, including the United Kingdom and many
- 42:23Speaker 3: others listed here. And just to note, a French court
- 42:26Speaker 3: found that the government's use in France a BriefCam was illegal,
- 42:31Speaker 3: citing multiple violations of French and European privacy laws here.
- 42:36Speaker 3: Yet it's being used all over Europe, all over Asia,
- 42:39Speaker 3: North America, and even places like the United Arab Emirates
- 42:44Speaker 3: as well. So I mean that just kind of it
- 42:47Speaker 3: really adds to what Basil and Heiicel we're talking about
- 42:51Speaker 3: about the size and scope of this network and how
- 42:55Speaker 3: these tech companies are effectively trojan horses and now it's
- 42:59Speaker 3: being weapons. Should people be taking these threats seriously? I'm certain,
- 43:04Speaker 3: I'm certain Moscow will be looking at this very closely.
- 43:08Speaker 1: Well. Moscow should be taking it very seriously.
- 43:11Speaker 2: Everybody in the West should be taking it very seriously
- 43:13Speaker 2: as well, because we've been trying to buying this drum
- 43:15Speaker 2: for quite some time. Patrick to make the point that
- 43:18Speaker 2: the Western tech industry is totally as is Reel, totally
- 43:22Speaker 2: embedded in just about everywhere, and you know this is
- 43:25Speaker 2: a major concern for people, or it should be. So
- 43:28Speaker 2: we'll talk about that an extra as well. But look,
- 43:30Speaker 2: let's move on and remind everybody that if you do
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- 44:02Speaker 2: Juram is discussing who benefits from the war against Iran.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Join him at seven for that and Karl will be
- 44:09Speaker 2: on at nine. And the headliner of the title for
- 44:12Speaker 2: that is Trump's humiliation begging China to siven from Iran
- 44:15Speaker 2: war disaster. So two programs to watch tonight now, Bazil,
- 44:21Speaker 2: let me bring you back to the program again and well,
- 44:24Speaker 2: the Gaza Tribunal has issued its report. Just tell everybody
- 44:30Speaker 2: what that is, who's behind it and what the report says.
- 44:35Speaker 7: Thanks man, Yes, I mean, although you'd hardly know it
- 44:37Speaker 7: from the scant reporting in the corporate syndicate press. The
- 44:41Speaker 7: independent Gaza Tribunal published its findings this week. It hurt
- 44:46Speaker 7: testimony from witnesses including journalists, medics, academics, survivors, international law
- 44:53Speaker 7: experts and whistleblowers doing a job that should really have
- 44:56Speaker 7: been undertaken by the Crown Prosecution Service. Of course they've
- 45:00Speaker 7: been preoccupied with arresting elderly clergymen and peace campaigners holding
- 45:06Speaker 7: pieces of paper. The aim of the tribunal that was
- 45:10Speaker 7: to uncover the full scale of British complicity in genocide,
- 45:15Speaker 7: and it concluded that the British government failed in its
- 45:18Speaker 7: fundamental obligation to prevent genocide as per the Geneva Convention,
- 45:24Speaker 7: and further that Britain has and been complicit in atrocity
- 45:29Speaker 7: crimes and in some instances actively participated in them. The
- 45:34Speaker 7: co author, Shadha Muri, warned that humanity has crossed a
- 45:40Speaker 7: red line of genocide, accusing top UK officials of lying,
- 45:45Speaker 7: manipulating the law and protecting the interests of foreign governments
- 45:49Speaker 7: and big businesses, not the British public. The former Labour
- 45:54Speaker 7: leader Jeremy Corbyn co authored the report, and he said
- 45:56Speaker 7: that the tribunal aimed to serve as a landmark contribution
- 46:00Speaker 7: to the campaign for justice and as a historical repository
- 46:05Speaker 7: of evidence for generations to come. He went on to
- 46:10Speaker 7: highlight Britain's strategic role, noting that Britain, although not the
- 46:16Speaker 7: biggest arms contributor to Israel, is nevertheless a crucial part
- 46:20Speaker 7: of it, partly because of the RAF base in Aquateri,
- 46:24Speaker 7: the sharing of intelligence information, and because of the way
- 46:28Speaker 7: the US has a significant military presence in Britain, one
- 46:33Speaker 7: of course, that it's using, as I speak, to load
- 46:36Speaker 7: up the B fifty twos to bomb Iran. This whole process,
- 46:41Speaker 7: he went on, has eroded britain standing in the world,
- 46:44Speaker 7: eroded our commitment to international law, to the United Nations,
- 46:48Speaker 7: to human rights, to international justice through the ICC and
- 46:53Speaker 7: the ICJ. So of course the atrocities haven't finished either,
- 47:01Speaker 7: have they. It turns out that we're going to hear
- 47:04Speaker 7: in a momment about Steve Sweeney the rockets that landed
- 47:10Speaker 7: within a few feet of him, causing him injury in
- 47:13Speaker 7: Lebanon that it's believed maybe made by Raphael, a company
- 47:20Speaker 7: with British operation which is headed up by Lord Hutton,
- 47:29Speaker 7: a labor pier. And of course the spyflights include the
- 47:32Speaker 7: one that was in the air when the World Kitchen,
- 47:34Speaker 7: British aid workers James Kirby, James Henderson and John Chapman
- 47:38Speaker 7: were murdered in Gaza in April twenty twenty four. The
- 47:41Speaker 7: Ministry of Defense holds video surveillance from that day, but
- 47:46Speaker 7: he is refusing to publish it. And of course we
- 47:49Speaker 7: don't know where the Paneer software played a part in
- 47:54Speaker 7: that particular atrocity.
- 47:57Speaker 2: And Basil Germany and has decided to withdraw legal backing
- 48:02Speaker 2: for Israel in the ICGA kiss, Yeah.
- 48:05Speaker 1: This is significant.
- 48:07Speaker 7: Germany has been one of Israel's staunchest supporters throughout the genocide,
- 48:11Speaker 7: but they appear to have had some sort of change
- 48:15Speaker 7: of heart because they withdrawn their support, as it says
- 48:20Speaker 7: on the slide from the israel from the case, So
- 48:25Speaker 7: that significantly weakens to the Israeli side because they were
- 48:29Speaker 7: the only major European country doing so. It will now
- 48:33Speaker 7: be USA and Israel versus the rest of the world.
- 48:37Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Basil Patrick. Both Basil and Haiker
- 48:42Speaker 2: mentioned Steve Swiney, So just introduce the clip because we're
- 48:46Speaker 2: going to show what happened to him.
- 48:48Speaker 3: Well, this is a British journalist, I might add, Yes,
- 48:51Speaker 3: he works for RT International. He is the station chief,
- 48:56Speaker 3: their correspondent, lead correspondent in b Root, Lebanon, very important
- 49:00Speaker 3: location for international news. He's a war correspondent. Here watch
- 49:06Speaker 3: what happened while he was filing one of his recent
- 49:09Speaker 3: reports about a bridge collapse in southern Lebanon.
- 49:15Speaker 13: Further rocket attacks were reported against Nahaia in a minute,
- 49:44Speaker 13: not just.
- 49:45Speaker 3: A random shell falling there, I can assure you. Here,
- 49:48Speaker 3: Steve Sweeney took to social media. He has a stain
- 49:51Speaker 3: in injuries here today he says Israel tried to kill
- 49:54Speaker 3: me in a targeted air strike in southern Lebanon as
- 49:58Speaker 3: I was reporting on the targeting of bridges in the
- 50:01Speaker 3: force displacement of one million people, an ethnic cleansing operation
- 50:05Speaker 3: on a larger scale than the knock By. He's talking
- 50:08Speaker 3: about the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by Israelis in nineteen
- 50:14Speaker 3: forty seven and forty eight. Here, so he says, no
- 50:17Speaker 3: doubt this was deliberate according to him. Here now Steve
- 50:21Speaker 3: Sweeney has recovering from his injuries. Here here he is
- 50:25Speaker 3: basically explaining what happened and also what would happened to
- 50:29Speaker 3: him more importantly, but he really puts this into a
- 50:33Speaker 3: harrowing perspective here he is.
- 50:38Speaker 14: I guess, so, yeah, well, you've probably all seen the
- 50:41Speaker 14: footage of the as right that took place in Sawdiffric
- 50:44Speaker 14: as we were reporting on the destruction of a bridge.
- 50:47Speaker 14: We've been treated in hospital for our injuries. I had
- 50:50Speaker 14: a shrapnel wound in my arm deeply embedded in the
- 50:53Speaker 14: bustle here that's been taken out and here it is
- 50:56Speaker 14: in this part here. But what I do want to
- 50:59Speaker 14: say is that this this was a deliberate, targeted attack
- 51:02Speaker 14: on journalists. There's no mistake about it. This was and
- 51:05Speaker 14: there's ready precision strike from a fighter jet. What we
- 51:08Speaker 14: were doing was we were reporting on the attacks on bridges,
- 51:12Speaker 14: which is effectively severing South Lebanon from the rest of
- 51:16Speaker 14: the country. One million people now internally displaced.
- 51:19Speaker 13: This is the real story.
- 51:20Speaker 14: It's not about us coming under attackers journalists. What we're
- 51:24Speaker 14: seeing now and what we were reporting on is this
- 51:28Speaker 14: plan for Israel to ethnically cleanse the south of Lebanon.
- 51:31Speaker 14: This is, without doubt an attack. This is on the
- 51:36Speaker 14: scale or bigger than the scale of the Nakbar. This
- 51:40Speaker 14: is the fourth displacement of a million people, which remains
- 51:43Speaker 14: their warcrime. And also we have to say that attacking
- 51:46Speaker 14: journalists is a war crime. Attacking civilian infrastructure is a
- 51:50Speaker 14: war crime. But if they think that they're going to
- 51:52Speaker 14: silence us, if they think that we're going to stay
- 51:54Speaker 14: out of the field, they're very very much mistaken.
- 52:01Speaker 3: Yeah, and props to Steve Sweeney, very brave and tremendous,
- 52:07Speaker 3: hugely professional as well in his conduct and his statement there,
- 52:12Speaker 3: I think says it all. But you know, I would say, guys,
- 52:15Speaker 3: and maybe Basil has more information on this, but the
- 52:18Speaker 3: targeting of journalists is a little bit of a problem
- 52:21Speaker 3: regarding Israel in the last couple of years.
- 52:23Speaker 2: Well not just regarding Israel. Let's just put the British
- 52:27Speaker 2: government's position on the targeting of journalists on screen here.
- 52:31Speaker 2: So this was a statement made in the United Nations.
- 52:36Speaker 2: We must act to protect independent journalism. More journalists were
- 52:39Speaker 2: killed last year than any other year since the Committee
- 52:42Speaker 2: to Protect Journalists began collecting data, making it the dead
- 52:45Speaker 2: last year on record. This is Letitia Lunin, the UK
- 52:49Speaker 2: Mission to the United Nations, saying this last year, and
- 52:52Speaker 2: she said the UK remains a committed advocate for journalists
- 52:56Speaker 2: safety and protection as a co founder of the Media
- 52:59Speaker 2: Freedom Call. So, Basil, my question to you is, very briefly,
- 53:06Speaker 2: what has the British government said about this incident, because
- 53:09Speaker 2: it seems to me they're pretty silent on it.
- 53:12Speaker 7: Nothing is the short answered declassified of arsenal comment. They've
- 53:16Speaker 7: refused to do so. They're also not commented on the
- 53:19Speaker 7: two hundred and seventy odd journalists murdered in Gaza, more
- 53:23Speaker 7: than in World War One, World War II, the Korean War,
- 53:26Speaker 7: the Vietnam War and the Bosnian War combined. So that,
- 53:31Speaker 7: I mean obviously speaks to the deliberate targeting of journalists.
- 53:35Speaker 7: Steve Sweeney lucky to escape with.
- 53:37Speaker 2: His life, absolutely and continued absolute hypocrisy from the UK regime. Okay,
- 53:44Speaker 2: let's move on then to Denmark and Greenland in particular. So,
- 53:48Speaker 2: according to this article from Dr the Danish, effectually the
- 53:51Speaker 2: Danish equivalent of the BBC. Denmark was preparing for full
- 53:55Speaker 2: skilled war with the United States, so for Greenland in January,
- 53:59Speaker 2: alongside France, Germany and the other Nordic regions, elite troops
- 54:03Speaker 2: and F thirty five jets with live ammunition were sent,
- 54:06Speaker 2: allegedly and runways were to be blown up to prevent
- 54:10Speaker 2: an invasion. D R said that Donald Trump's threats to
- 54:12Speaker 2: see Greenland were taken so seriously that wide ranging preparations
- 54:17Speaker 2: were made to forcibly resist the US invasion of Greenland.
- 54:21Speaker 2: The Danish and French governments worked together to create a
- 54:24Speaker 2: Northern European coalition. According to the article, this included sending
- 54:28Speaker 2: blood to treat wooded soldiers, sending elite Danish troops and
- 54:33Speaker 2: French alpine troops to Greenland, preparing Greenland runways for demolition
- 54:37Speaker 2: as said, and sending armed F thirty five jets patrol
- 54:41Speaker 2: the skies. We wonder would they do any better there
- 54:45Speaker 2: than they're doing in Iran at the moment, but anyway,
- 54:47Speaker 2: This was apparently in response to the American attack on
- 54:51Speaker 2: Venezuela on the third of January, in which Maduro was
- 54:55Speaker 2: abducted and taken to the United States, and so Patrick,
- 54:59Speaker 2: a question for you really is what are we supposed
- 55:01Speaker 2: to make of this, because if you remember, there was
- 55:04Speaker 2: much jocularity over the so called if we just put
- 55:07Speaker 2: this on screen so called military exercise at the time
- 55:11Speaker 2: when Germans clearly found Greenland just a bit on the
- 55:14Speaker 2: coal side and headed back home pretty much as soon
- 55:17Speaker 2: as they arrived. So, I mean, are we supposed to
- 55:19Speaker 2: take this report in Danish mainstream news in any way? Seriously?
- 55:25Speaker 3: I mean, this is just probably the equivalent of a
- 55:29Speaker 3: sort of a NATO barroom brawl at the end of
- 55:32Speaker 3: the end of the day of exercises and training. It
- 55:36Speaker 3: might as well have happened that way. But what I
- 55:39Speaker 3: think also shows is just the I think I don't
- 55:43Speaker 3: know how much you know, they say they drew up
- 55:45Speaker 3: these plans, Mike, you know, how realistic is this? Is
- 55:48Speaker 3: this more for the Danish domestic political audience, that these
- 55:53Speaker 3: types of reports are being elevated there, But realistically I
- 55:58Speaker 3: just don't ever see that as happening. But it really
- 56:00Speaker 3: just shows you that the whole artifice of NATO, of
- 56:04Speaker 3: the edifice, sorry, the edifice of NATO, is disintegrating, and
- 56:09Speaker 3: this is just a good example of it.
- 56:11Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, well we're going to end today then
- 56:15Speaker 2: with offcom so let's bring them on screen, because following
- 56:18Speaker 2: an investigation Ofcommas decided to find four Chan, the online community,
- 56:25Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty thousand pounds for failing to comply
- 56:28Speaker 2: with the UK's online age check requirements. Now they have
- 56:33Speaker 2: to OFFCOMMA is saying that the platform now has to
- 56:36Speaker 2: implement highly effective is assurance by the second April or
- 56:40Speaker 2: i fiz a daily penalty of five hundred pounds. So
- 56:44Speaker 2: this is what they had to say following an investigation
- 56:47Speaker 2: and so on. They went on to say, we've also
- 56:50Speaker 2: find four Chan fifty thousand pounds for failing to assess
- 56:54Speaker 2: the risk of people in the UK encountering illegal content
- 56:57Speaker 2: on its site. This is fundamental, They say that keeping
- 57:00Speaker 2: users safe. In order to put in place appropriate safety
- 57:03Speaker 2: measure to protect people, especially children, providers must first understand
- 57:07Speaker 2: how harm could take place on their platforms. The company
- 57:11Speaker 2: must now carry out a suitable and sufficient illegal content
- 57:14Speaker 2: risk assessment by the second of April or face daily
- 57:17Speaker 2: penalty of two hundred pounds. Additionally, they said we have
- 57:21Speaker 2: fined four chan twenty thousand pounds for failing to specify
- 57:25Speaker 2: in its terms of service how individuals are to be
- 57:28Speaker 2: protected from illegal content, which they must nied out by
- 57:31Speaker 2: the second of April or face a daily penalty of
- 57:33Speaker 2: one hundred pounds. So four Chan, for its part, basically
- 57:37Speaker 2: yawned and stuck its fingers up at Offcom and said,
- 57:42Speaker 2: in the only country in which four chan operates, the
- 57:44Speaker 2: United States, it's breaking no law and the data's conduct
- 57:47Speaker 2: is expressly protected by the First Amendment. Now, the BBC
- 57:51Speaker 2: reports ofcom is saying that the UK is setting new
- 57:55Speaker 2: standards for online safety. Eight checks and risk assessments are
- 57:58Speaker 2: cornerstones of our laws, and we'll take robust enforcement action
- 58:02Speaker 2: against firms that fall short. And I'm going to say
- 58:05Speaker 2: this is complete nonsense, because producing a press release detailing
- 58:09Speaker 2: a completely unenforceable so called fine is not robust law enforcement.
- 58:14Speaker 2: When they replied to me about this, they said this,
- 58:18Speaker 2: if a provider fails to pay a fine, Offcome is
- 58:21Speaker 2: entitled to seek recovery of those penalties where appropriate. If
- 58:25Speaker 2: a provider fails to comply with a requirement to implement
- 58:28Speaker 2: age assurance, we could also seek a court order for
- 58:31Speaker 2: business disruption measures such as requirement requiring payment providers or
- 58:35Speaker 2: advertisers to withdraw their services from a platform, or requiring
- 58:39Speaker 2: Internet service providers to block a site in the UK. Now,
- 58:43Speaker 2: the word entitled does not mean will or even can.
- 58:48Speaker 2: They have no money for bringing cases like this in
- 58:51Speaker 2: other countries, so these finds are effectively unenforceable. They could
- 58:56Speaker 2: add four chan to the Great Firewall of Britain, which
- 58:59Speaker 2: already blocks RT and Spotnik, but a VPN is going
- 59:02Speaker 2: to sort that out for anyone so inclined, And so
- 59:05Speaker 2: it's a waste of time. And as I've said many
- 59:08Speaker 2: many times already, none of this does anything to protect children,
- 59:12Speaker 2: who are by far most at risk from size like roblocks,
- 59:16Speaker 2: where adults are free to pose as children with no
- 59:19Speaker 2: effort to restrict that behavior. Apparently, and as we reported
- 59:22Speaker 2: in January January, at least one country, that's Egypt, has
- 59:26Speaker 2: moved to do something about that by banning roblocks in
- 59:29Speaker 2: that country. No OFFCOM insists that age assurance is the
- 59:36Speaker 2: way to protect children. Of course, it is absolutely the
- 59:40Speaker 2: way to implement a form of digital ID. But Patrick,
- 59:44Speaker 2: this whole idea, this whole claim that they are you know,
- 59:49Speaker 2: finding companies in the United States or any other country
- 59:52Speaker 2: in the world, and that those countries should pay any
- 59:54Speaker 2: attention to that's just ridiculous.
- 59:57Speaker 3: Yeah, especially look at once the business model of four Chan,
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: I mean, it helped importance Britain to its future. Are
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: they just going to go the way a bit shoot
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: and other websites are basically just down tooled operations and
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: just given up on sort of trying to exist behind
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: the Great British Firewall. Here and note that four Chan
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: is completely accessible and you can get anything you want
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: on four Chan in China. In China, so, I mean,
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: even China hasn't blocked four Chen, so probably because the
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: Chinese government doesn't really view it as any kind of
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: a threat because most of the users are using it
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: for like sharing anime basically, I mean, so anyway, it's
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: also the place where QAnon was launched, and how QAnon
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: proliferated the online conspiracy cult was four Chan and very
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: enthusiastic users included Jeffrey Epstein and Gilane Maxwell. By the way,
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: I just thought i'd add that.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and date, So you know, four Chan perhaps
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: deserving of some criticism in some ways, but we'll talk
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: about that much more. An extra as well, so if
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: you are UK COLN members, stay on the live stream
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: and we'll have some uk cal news extra for you
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: in a few minutes time. Otherwise, thank you very much
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: to Patrick, Basil and Haiku for the contributions today, and
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: for everybody that's watched. Don't forget jerm and Carl tonight
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: and have a great weekend. We will see you at
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: one pm as usual on Monday.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: See then about