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Press Pass | Liam Coen Details Team Approach vs. Seahawks · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: With just a couple of medical updates injuries. Devin Lloyd
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  Speaker 1: was currently evaluating for a calf. It was cleared played
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  Speaker 1: the first half, tightened up on him in the second
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  Speaker 1: in the at halftime, went to go in the second
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  Speaker 1: half a little bit. It was just too tight, So
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  Speaker 1: we played made a decision as coaches that UH to
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  Speaker 1: get Ventrell. In Ventrel played well, he was cleared medically
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  Speaker 1: to play, but we just felt like his coaches watching
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  Speaker 1: him run a little bit, that it was just too tight,
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  Speaker 1: So played Ventrell, got him going, and we're currently just
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  Speaker 1: kind of being able to test Devin and look at
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  Speaker 1: it right now to see if he'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: go for US this week. And then Quinton Morris as
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  Speaker 1: well being evaluated for an abductor deal. His UH status
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit up in the air right now.
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  Speaker 1: You take Devin, it's a lot of right now, right Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was working through that and see if that's going
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  Speaker 1: to be the best course of action based on how
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  Speaker 1: we get some of these evaluations back today.
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  Speaker 2: Take on last week. But do you expect Red and
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  Speaker 2: Strange to play against Year?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah I do. Yeah, Yeah, we didn't you
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  Speaker 1: know that that's gonna be the it's really gonna be
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  Speaker 1: weak that. We hopefully the buye gets us a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a jump on that so that doesn't miss
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  Speaker 1: as many games. We're hopeful that after that, but it's
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely up in the air. It could be longer
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  Speaker 1: than after the buye.
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  Speaker 2: Off.
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  Speaker 1: It's a line a little bit yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: How do you get to the kind of acts, maybe
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  Speaker 2: the level of red from the earlier games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we knew that they had a good front
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  Speaker 1: for sure, and but we definitely did not play our
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  Speaker 1: best upfront in terms of the level of physicality in
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  Speaker 1: the run game. But also and obviously in past protection,
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  Speaker 1: we were just catching a little bit, not throwing our
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  Speaker 1: hands and playing stout in some of our past protection.
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  Speaker 1: We were just giving up a little bit too much
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  Speaker 1: ground at times. I do think Jonah came in and
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  Speaker 1: actually played pretty well. I mean, we didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: that that's going to be the thing, like people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, well that was the one change up right,
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  Speaker 1: But that was actually he played pretty well, and we
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  Speaker 1: need those other guys to continue to step up around
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  Speaker 1: him and play a little bit better. Right. That's at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day. We did not play well
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  Speaker 1: enough up front, it starts there, and we did not
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  Speaker 1: meet our standards of operating up front. We can help
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  Speaker 1: them with some chips and stuff like that, but ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: I think those guys understand and they know that we
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  Speaker 1: didn't meet a standard and we got to get back
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  Speaker 1: to playing the game that we know. How, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: got to practice a little bit more pads during the
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  Speaker 1: week or something to get these guys feeling hitting blocks better.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to take care of them, especially with some
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  Speaker 1: of the short week that we had this past week,
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  Speaker 1: but we got to get back to playing physical and
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  Speaker 1: moving the line of scrimmage, especially in the run game.
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  Speaker 2: He did you bring further two tackles in particular comparatively
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  Speaker 2: to the previous five games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we had a decent amount of chips signed.
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  Speaker 1: Like I mean, we still had a lot of chips,
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  Speaker 1: and it was more some of the games that they
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  Speaker 1: when they would stunt, Like when you when you have
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  Speaker 1: a chip there and they stunt and twist and game you.
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  Speaker 1: The chips kind of irrelevant at that point when the
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  Speaker 1: end that you're trying to chip goes inside and creates penetration.
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  Speaker 1: So I think we had a lot of chips on.
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  Speaker 1: We just also threw the ball a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: than we have been in some of the known dropback
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  Speaker 1: situations with how the game kind of got in the
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  Speaker 1: second half. There were some really good pockets and some
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  Speaker 1: some well protected plays, but it was definitely on us
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  Speaker 1: a little bit quicker than it has been, And it's
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  Speaker 1: really hard to chip inside with the running back, Like
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  Speaker 1: we do teach those guys if they're ever going through
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  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage on a checkdown to always chip color,
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  Speaker 1: like if there's ever color exposed that we want to
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  Speaker 1: chip that color and put it back on the offensive lignment,
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  Speaker 1: specifically the guards. But it's hard to just say, like
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  Speaker 1: to jet chip the three technique as a runner unless
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  Speaker 1: you have a checkdown that's going through the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 1: So it's always a balance to how I've been around
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  Speaker 1: tackles also that hate chips, that they don't want them
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  Speaker 1: because it bothers them knowing that all whenever you have
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  Speaker 1: like a tight end and a chip alignment, that d
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  Speaker 1: end is aware of it, and sometimes they'll use that
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  Speaker 1: to their advantage and stun them inside, which did happen
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  Speaker 1: a few times yesterday. So it's always finding that balance
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  Speaker 1: that you want to try to say, want to help them. Also,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want it to become a hindrance in some ways,
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  Speaker 1: which it can be.
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  Speaker 2: And as for the run game, obviously, the first four
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  Speaker 2: weeks of the season ran the ball well. Looks like
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  Speaker 2: teams got the memo, how do you get that run
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  Speaker 2: game going even up going up against superior defensive lines.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no question. I mean it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: huge another challenge this week against another really good front.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the difference yesterday a little bit was they
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  Speaker 1: weren't always committing single high to stop the run. It
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  Speaker 1: was still being defended from a shell. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think if we would have maybe been able to keep
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, I probably could have ran a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more in the second half to keep a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more balance. We'd get a good run on
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  Speaker 1: a one back power and it gets called back because
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  Speaker 1: of illegal formation on the right tackle. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: every time you maybe get into a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a flow, it was continuing to go back. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: what we're looking at this week is, Okay, what we
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  Speaker 1: know our identity to be in terms of the runs
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  Speaker 1: that we want to prioritize really repping the heck out
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  Speaker 1: of those to make sure that we're giving these guys
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  Speaker 1: the confidence to go rep them in the games. But
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  Speaker 1: also we've got to be better on our combinations too,
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  Speaker 1: Like Seattle does a nice job of, like if you're
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  Speaker 1: running a double team combination, they're d line did a
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  Speaker 1: nice job of like only playing into one of those
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  Speaker 1: guys that are trying to block you. So the double
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  Speaker 1: team is then almost off and now they have hands
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  Speaker 1: on one and then your double team other guy that's
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  Speaker 1: trying to go up to the backer, well he's going up,
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  Speaker 1: but now that guy that's blocking him is one on
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  Speaker 1: one again, and so we just did not execute that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I think we
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  Speaker 1: just got to look at all, right, what is our
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  Speaker 1: balance between under center and gun runs and making sure
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  Speaker 1: that we're balanced there and also prioritizing what we do
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  Speaker 1: best and also make you know, make us the defense
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  Speaker 1: stop those things. But we got to go execute a better.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas at the full play us so they made
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  Speaker 2: some great plays, but also at the drop and the
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  Speaker 2: play over the middle at this stage, or what's your
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  Speaker 2: frustration level with just some of the inconsistencies in this game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's no different than some of the
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  Speaker 1: inconsistencies and a lot of our guys right now, it's
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  Speaker 1: like are good and some of the good has been
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  Speaker 1: really good, and some of the bad just goes to
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  Speaker 1: a really bottom floor in some ways. And that's just
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  Speaker 1: those that's the consistent play that we're looking for from everybody.
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  Speaker 1: A part of this thing is trying to not let
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  Speaker 1: those dips dip down so low that it's game changing,
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  Speaker 1: right Like, we're all gonna make mistakes or have physical
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  Speaker 1: errors cut down on the mental errors, but the dips
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  Speaker 1: can't go so low. So I've got I still have confidence.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he did some really good things. Obviously, I
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  Speaker 1: had the huge touchdown negated by the penalty. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he knows he's got to make that play on the
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  Speaker 1: third down, and we got to make sure that we're
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  Speaker 1: continuing to put him in a position to be successful,
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  Speaker 1: to do what these guys do best, and start to
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  Speaker 1: really focus in on those things and maybe not ask
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  Speaker 1: him to do some things that you know they're not
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  Speaker 1: doing at a high level right now, and only have
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  Speaker 1: those guys do what they're truly doing best and that's
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  Speaker 1: on us as coaches too.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think you might get why in the
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  Speaker 2: rotation and what's your plans for him when he can play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wyatt has gotten better in terms of more comfort
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  Speaker 1: level over the last probably week or so getting on
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  Speaker 1: you know, on the show team. I think we'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to get him some more reps this week and
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  Speaker 1: see what that looks like. Obviously still have to see
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  Speaker 1: if if Hainesy is gonna be able to go inside there,
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  Speaker 1: which obviously dictates it's a little bit more, and see
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  Speaker 1: where why it fits in best, you know, helping us
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  Speaker 1: at guard or tackle. I do think that we can
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  Speaker 1: get him going a little bit this week during the
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  Speaker 1: work week of practice, not just on the show team,
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  Speaker 1: get him some quality reps with the unit and see
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  Speaker 1: how he can help us going into this weekend. But
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  Speaker 1: I it was a bummer when he got banged up
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  Speaker 1: because he was playing at a high level and he
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  Speaker 1: was doing some really good things. We got to get
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  Speaker 1: him going again, which I do think is kind of
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  Speaker 1: this week.
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  Speaker 2: That game by the defense where he makes some key
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  Speaker 2: stops but there are also some really big exploss on
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  Speaker 2: the outside.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the key of you know, we let the
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  Speaker 1: ball get thrown over our heads a few times. That's
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  Speaker 1: a tough world if you let up to sixty yarders
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  Speaker 1: and then they I mean, I will say that Seattle
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  Speaker 1: did a great job of calling their shots against the
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  Speaker 1: exact coverages that you would want those plays to be
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  Speaker 1: drawing up in. You know, tough one on the obviously
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  Speaker 1: the post that went, but they hit us on a
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  Speaker 1: couple overs. It's a cup and want to you know
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  Speaker 1: J s N on the over verse three deep got us.
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  Speaker 1: We stopped the run the way we wanted to. We
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  Speaker 1: won third down, Uh played stout in the in the
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  Speaker 1: red area on the one third down where they ran
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  Speaker 1: it and we got a field made them kick a
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  Speaker 1: field goal. We did some really good things. But ultimately
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  Speaker 1: those big plays, man, they they're killing us. And so
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  Speaker 1: we've got to eliminate those plays, whether it's with the
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  Speaker 1: play call, whether it's with the execution of the play
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  Speaker 1: call and understanding maybe what's the shot zone? When is
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  Speaker 1: when are they gonna call these shots? And how can
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  Speaker 1: we help them from a coverage standpoint. But that's our
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  Speaker 1: that's the Achilles hill over the last two weeks has
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  Speaker 1: been the big plays or where do you think you guys,
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  Speaker 1: we just gotta we got to get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more pressure out. Here's the deal. Is they their past
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  Speaker 1: game when it was in the shotgun or if you
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  Speaker 1: were to say drop back balls coming out when they
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  Speaker 1: took those shots, those were seven man max pros. We're
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  Speaker 1: both tight ends or staying in you got the back
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  Speaker 1: on a hard ball play action. We got hit on
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  Speaker 1: two man routes a lot yesterday, right whether it was
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  Speaker 1: the post overs, whether it was this, or it was
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  Speaker 1: that we got hit on some two man routes where
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  Speaker 1: the corners are out there one on one, and so
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  Speaker 1: we've got to make sure we're doing a nice job
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  Speaker 1: of mixing up where our cloud is to be able
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  Speaker 1: to not let the offense get a beat on where
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  Speaker 1: the cloud is going to be, and so they can't
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  Speaker 1: pick on the quarter side, if you will, And so
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  Speaker 1: it is hard to create a four man rush versus
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  Speaker 1: max pro. So that is always a challenge. We've got
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  Speaker 1: to look at as a defensive staff, all right, where
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  Speaker 1: can we maybe create some more pressure. How can we
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  Speaker 1: help them create some more pressure, whether it's worth personnel
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  Speaker 1: or whether it's worth with pressure a couple more be
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  Speaker 1: more decisive.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted him to be more decisive withdrows.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's definitely a handful of throws that you know,
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  Speaker 1: he can look at and say, I either need to
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  Speaker 1: take what it is right there in terms of my
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  Speaker 1: first or second read or okay, my first is read
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  Speaker 1: is not open? Maybe pre snap or as I'm accepting
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  Speaker 1: the ball, how can I quickly move on from that read?
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  Speaker 1: Especially with the pockets. You know, it was a dirty
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  Speaker 1: pocket day and that was the reality, and we've protected
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  Speaker 1: at a really high level up until this past Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's a balance of him now obviously
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  Speaker 1: seeing how that went yesterday, that if number one or
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  Speaker 1: two is opening the red, we've got to make sure
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  Speaker 1: we're getting the ball on time and in rhythm. And
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  Speaker 1: then on the flip side of it is if it's
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  Speaker 1: a pure progression read where pre snap man that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: look too good over here, or as I accept the
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  Speaker 1: ball it's muddy, how do I how quickly can I
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  Speaker 1: move on to play on time and in rhythm within
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  Speaker 1: the pocket. Because that does have to do with the protection,
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  Speaker 1: right the quarterback has a responsibility to be able to
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  Speaker 1: progress and have decisions timing and accuracy. So there's a handful.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he did some really good things as well,
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  Speaker 1: made some great plays off schedule, did some really good things.
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  Speaker 1: But we got to help him out as well with
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  Speaker 1: some of the releases. We got it to be better
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  Speaker 1: on the perimeter. They had a good plan. They played
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  Speaker 1: a lot of cloud coverage, and they were able to
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  Speaker 1: rush us with some four man rush and get after us.
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  Speaker 2: When you first started working for McVay, was there a
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  Speaker 2: project he gave you or a coaching point he gave
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  Speaker 2: you that said, I've never thought about that, but also, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this guy's really going to help my progress as a coach.
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  Speaker 1: That's a damn good question. I think the project that
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  Speaker 1: I was responsible for for so long was the past drawings.
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  Speaker 1: So like I did all the past drawings for three
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  Speaker 1: years while I was an assistant position coach there. That
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  Speaker 1: opportunity gave me an access to Sean that not maybe
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  Speaker 1: every single coach on the staff had, because when you're
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  Speaker 1: responsible to draw the passes, you got to hear it
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  Speaker 1: from his mouth in terms of the details, the precision,
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  Speaker 1: the yardage, the depth, the why. Like you're getting an
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  Speaker 1: inside look at the why behind every pass play. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's probably what maybe helped me the most
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  Speaker 1: of anything that I was able to do, There was
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  Speaker 1: the little finite details that go into just one play,
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  Speaker 1: one pass play that we all run smash right, everybody
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  Speaker 1: runs curl flat, everybody runs these plays. But the detail
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  Speaker 1: in which I learned it from him because of my
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  Speaker 1: access to working with him, even I wasn't saying anything really,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just sitting in there. He's teaching, he's coaching,
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  Speaker 1: he's up on the whiteboard, he's showing me clips and
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  Speaker 1: film examples so that I can, you know, draw those plays,
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  Speaker 1: but also then pull clips of those plays to show,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the coaches and the players. So I think
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  Speaker 1: it was more so that overall opportunity that I had. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a fun job always to you're down on
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  Speaker 1: the clock, rushing into meetings at nine am with past
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  Speaker 1: strong as you just finished up, and it's a process.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that definitely that whole opportunity to be
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  Speaker 1: able to draw. You know so much you talk about
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: to young coaches like learn visio, learn how to draw.
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  Speaker 1: If you can draw it, you may always have a job.
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  Speaker 1: And that opportunity was always really cool for me. For
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  Speaker 1: you Teton draws yeah, waving for London early. Can you
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  Speaker 1: talk about the decisions that.
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  Speaker 2: I guess some of the guys to get it is
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  Speaker 2: like a team bonding kind of experience. The team's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be gather for a week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do it. Was we've done it both ways,
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  Speaker 1: Like I've done it both ways, going out early or
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  Speaker 1: staying on this time zone obviously and then leaving as
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  Speaker 1: late as kind of possible. It was just something that
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  Speaker 1: when we talked about in the off season that this
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  Speaker 1: could be a possible opportunity for a new everything to
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  Speaker 1: maybe be together for an extended period of time. It
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  Speaker 1: just so happens. I told the team that what a
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  Speaker 1: perfect time for this to come up, that we're coming
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  Speaker 1: off of a tough loss and we've got to face
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  Speaker 1: a little adversity as a team. Well, now we're together
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  Speaker 1: for an extended period of time in a new setting,
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  Speaker 1: in a different place. Obviously, this organization has had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of familiarity with making this trip, and I think
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  Speaker 1: our ops travel, everybody that is involved in it is
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  Speaker 1: you know, really gets it.
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  Speaker 2: They just get it.
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  Speaker 1: They know how to do this trip. So that gave
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  Speaker 1: me a lot of confidence to be able to move
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  Speaker 1: and say look, let's go early and let's dive into
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  Speaker 1: this thing. Get you know, acclimated to the weather, to
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  Speaker 1: the fields, to all that stuff, knowing that, man, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the game, the field may be a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: than what we've been playing in every day here, the weather,
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  Speaker 1: the conditions, just the being out there. That was what
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  Speaker 1: really went into it was just try to give these guys.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to some of the players in the off
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  Speaker 1: season about what they actually liked as well, and it
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  Speaker 1: weighed into it, and we tried to make the best decision.
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  Speaker 1: We did all the pros and cons from a sports
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  Speaker 1: science standpoint. We dove into it, and at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, I thought it was just a great
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  Speaker 1: opportunity for our our team to be together and to
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  Speaker 1: see if we could, you know, right before the bye
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  Speaker 1: where we're not going to see each other for very long.
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  Speaker 1: I just think we just thought it was a great
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  Speaker 1: op to get together, to dive into each other. And
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  Speaker 1: I do think it came at the perfect time.
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  Speaker 2: Coach