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Our Golden Gal is Ready For Sex, Younger Men, and Bachelor Nation Hotties · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts bring you the Ultimate Summer of Love Tree.
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  Speaker 1: This is famously Available. Welcome back to the podcast at
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  Speaker 1: your host Ben Higgins, and I'm here today with our
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  Speaker 1: golden famously Available gal, Kathy Swartz. Kathy, we know one
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  Speaker 1: of your besties, Susan has found love and is happy
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  Speaker 1: in a relationship. At least that's what we think. We're
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  Speaker 1: not like checking every day, but at least that's our
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  Speaker 1: last update. Are you ready to see if you can
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  Speaker 1: find your person too?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is going to be rapid fire like.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need any I want like first words that
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  Speaker 1: come to mind. I'm just going to throw stuff out there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm never shorter words.
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  Speaker 1: Ben, Okay, this is about you first. I'm excited for
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  Speaker 1: this one. What's your name?
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  Speaker 3: Kathy Swartz, age two?
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  Speaker 1: Describe your physical appearance.
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  Speaker 2: Tall, slim, slash, athletic build.
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  Speaker 1: I would say strong. I want you to add strong.
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  Speaker 1: You're wrong, woman. Yeah. Tell us your history with the show,
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  Speaker 1: The Golden Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise.
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  Speaker 3: I was the Golden Bachelor. I was eliminated at org
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  Speaker 3: roast ceremony with Gary. Gary's a great guy. Was not
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  Speaker 3: my guy? Went on Bachelor in Paradise season ten. Had
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  Speaker 3: a great time, felt like a mother and a mentor
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  Speaker 3: to all the young ones, great guys, but did not
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  Speaker 3: find my love there either.
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  Speaker 1: Best thing about being on the show shows.
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  Speaker 3: Getting to meet incredibly wonderful people and having an adventure
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  Speaker 3: that so few people get.
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  Speaker 2: To have in their lives.
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  Speaker 1: It's the worst thing about being on the shows.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't find anyone still single.
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  Speaker 1: Other than your marriage. What was the most serious relationship
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  Speaker 1: romantically you've had.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: He was my he was at.
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  Speaker 1: Eighteen years old. I think you said I met.
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  Speaker 3: Him when I was eighteen, were married eighteen months later.
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  Speaker 3: I was twenty years old, had just turned twenty when
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  Speaker 3: I got married.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to get married again?
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  Speaker 3: It's not on my to do list, but I'm old
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  Speaker 3: enough to know never say never, so it's.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe when this is like first things that come
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  Speaker 1: to mind. Here three things that are requirements for your
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  Speaker 1: significant other.
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  Speaker 3: Kindness, a sense of adventure, and love for me and
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  Speaker 3: my family.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're going to switch over to some hard questions
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  Speaker 1: about dating. Specifically, are you willing to be the primary breadwinner?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Ideally? Do you want to continue working or would you
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  Speaker 1: like to be fully retired and you are working, You're
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  Speaker 1: doing podcasts, now you're going on these shows.
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  Speaker 2: No, I love doing my podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: I love so No, I would I retire, Probably not fully. No.
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  Speaker 1: This is a question that comes up so many times
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  Speaker 1: at my age and within my twenties, so I'm interested
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  Speaker 1: to see what you would say. Would you date someone
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  Speaker 1: that your family does not like?
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  Speaker 2: I would date them? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Describe the physicality of your ideal man.
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  Speaker 3: Ideally a little bit tall than they warm, smile, and
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  Speaker 3: beautiful eyes, and it has to be fit physically fit.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking early in the relationship here, like one first
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  Speaker 1: second date. If you meet someone and they mentioned to
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  Speaker 1: you that they're dating other people currently, would you allow that?
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  Speaker 2: Would I date him if he was dating other people?
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  Speaker 1: Would you continue to go on dates with him?
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  Speaker 2: One or two?
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  Speaker 3: But I have enough faith in myself. If I really
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  Speaker 3: like that guy, I think I could. I think he
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  Speaker 3: would see the light and know I'm.
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  Speaker 1: In without me being able to be included in any
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  Speaker 1: of these next two questions, not that I would be included,
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  Speaker 1: but it's weird if I was of all the bachelor
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  Speaker 1: since the beginning, Who is the most handsome in your opinion?
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  Speaker 2: Dale?
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  Speaker 3: Comes right at the top for me. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: absolutely stunningly handsome. Gosh, that that's a tough one. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I mean they're all, come on, they're all
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  Speaker 3: good looking guys. That's that's you gotta be good looking
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  Speaker 3: to be a bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Dale was never a bachelor, But we're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: throw all the bachelor guys into this. Oh I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not Dale works. Dale's a fine answer. We're just
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  Speaker 1: now gonna we're gonna open up to any bachelor contestant.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's fair, other than myself. Of all the bachelors,
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  Speaker 1: which do you think was the greatest guy?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I love Dotton. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: a genuine guy. Sean Well, I think he's a great guy.
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  Speaker 1: Don's incredible, dude, Shohn's great. Yet that's a great choice.
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  Speaker 1: Dotten is like sneaky, just awesome. He's quiet, but he's
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  Speaker 1: sneaky awesome.
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  Speaker 3: But see, that's that's an attractive quality because I've seen him.
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  Speaker 1: He can let Lise, Yeah, he's so tall. How do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about being set up?
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  Speaker 3: I think that's how I'm gonna beat somebody organically dating
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  Speaker 3: aps just I may look good on paper or not
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  Speaker 3: look good on paper. But when people meet organically, I
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  Speaker 3: think that's the best way. So I'm all in for
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  Speaker 3: being set up.
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  Speaker 1: Are you open to a long distance relationship?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, first to start with, but it won't it won't
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  Speaker 3: stay that way.
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  Speaker 1: Say when we get our first date set up here?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to be nervous on going to that date?
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  Speaker 3: I know I should say yes, but not really. I
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  Speaker 3: would be more excited.
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  Speaker 1: Which couple are you most excited about that it's still together?
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  Speaker 1: From the show, Like, which couple do you just like?
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  Speaker 1: Get behind you? They're wonderful together.
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  Speaker 3: I just spent time with them. Spencer and Jess love
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  Speaker 3: them and I just I love them.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking sex here, Kathy, But what is your
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  Speaker 1: ultimate well we might we might hear, but what is
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  Speaker 1: your ultimate fantasy date? Like not fantasy sweet date. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not talking what happens behind that closed door. I'm talking like,
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  Speaker 1: what is your ultimate fantasy date?
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  Speaker 2: So again, for me, at.
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  Speaker 3: My age, I don't need a trip to Paris with
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  Speaker 3: you know, going up the Eiffel Tower and watching fireworks
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  Speaker 3: go off. For me, the fantasy date is spending time
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  Speaker 3: with the guy doing I don't care what a walk
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  Speaker 3: on the beach, a dinner, kayaking, I don't care what
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  Speaker 3: it is. As long as I'm connecting with him and
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  Speaker 3: he's connected with me. I really don't care what it is.
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  Speaker 1: We kind of asked this question in reverse earlier, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm now asking from your perspective.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, I can't wait. I have to say, I'm sarry
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  Speaker 3: to interrupt you. I would love to go on a
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  Speaker 3: helicopter ride. I don't know what does stick out there
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  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a wild helicopter ride from the show.
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  Speaker 1: We were in Vegas and a lightning bolt struck right
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  Speaker 1: beside our helicopter. We had to land in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere to let the storm pass.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks. Maybe that comes up the list now.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't know if i'd tell you to do that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, A yacht same. I want to be on
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  Speaker 1: a private plane at some point in my life. That's
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  Speaker 1: just a goal.
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  Speaker 2: I've done it one time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never done it, even on the show. Never went,
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  Speaker 1: never been on one, but goodness, it sounds fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah it is. Yeah, sure, Wait can you buy me
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  Speaker 3: the guy with a private plane?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's part of the criteria here. Private jet again,
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  Speaker 1: we asked this question reverse earlier, but from your perspective,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about it in terms of this experience. If
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  Speaker 1: we set you up on a date and it goes
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  Speaker 1: really well, and the next day we set you up
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  Speaker 1: with on a date with somebody different and it goes
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  Speaker 1: really well, are you okay dating two people at once?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, until I figure out which one I'll like more,
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  Speaker 3: and then I'm going to cut the other one loose.
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  Speaker 1: How quickly are you going to try to figure out
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  Speaker 1: who you like more?
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  Speaker 3: How quickly?
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  Speaker 2: It's just a normal process. It just happens organically.
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  Speaker 3: You you just feel connected to one person, or if
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  Speaker 3: you kiss someone and you feel that connection. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's not something you plan for. It just happens,
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  Speaker 3: at least that way it's been for me.
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  Speaker 1: Now we are going to talk about sex, Kathy, I
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  Speaker 1: get there, Ben, I know it seems to be a thing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I have to break the news. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to get pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I can't get a way for you. But
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  Speaker 1: that's a I hope that's a headline. I want somebody
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  Speaker 1: to pick that statement up. Is Kathy Swartz says she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to get pregnant. That would be absolutely fantastic
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  Speaker 1: for this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, and I you know, I don't want nurse.
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  Speaker 3: These books have done all the nursing they're doing that.
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  Speaker 3: That stops close too.
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  Speaker 1: But how what is the appropriate on a time until
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  Speaker 1: you sleep with someone you know?
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  Speaker 2: I'm again, I'm nothing if not honest.
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  Speaker 3: I don't sleep with the guy on the first date,
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  Speaker 3: probably not a second date, but maybe after that if
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  Speaker 3: I'm really into him.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you the better answer.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean that answer is true, but the more
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  Speaker 3: complete answer is I don't sleep with men unless I'm
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  Speaker 3: either in a relationship with them or I see a
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  Speaker 3: high potential to be in a relationship with him.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just like a one night fling.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, that is not who I am. It's you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not do you want to go to the movies
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  Speaker 3: or have sex? No?
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  Speaker 1: No, But that seems like a while week that has
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  Speaker 1: that been a question or like a statement told you
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  Speaker 1: to before? Do you want to go to the movies
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  Speaker 1: or have sex? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I've had men say to me, listen, I
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  Speaker 3: really would like to literally, I really like to have
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  Speaker 3: sex with you. How do you feel about that? And
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  Speaker 3: I'll come straight in the eye and I say, are
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  Speaker 3: we in a relationship yet? And they said, well, we
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  Speaker 3: just started dating. I said, exactly, let me know when
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  Speaker 3: we're in a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Kathy, this is gonna be fun. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: some great conversations along the way. Final question for you,
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  Speaker 1: what is your goal from famously available.
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  Speaker 2: Hollmark card to find the man who.
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  Speaker 3: Loves me? I love him and we feel so grateful
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  Speaker 3: that we found each other at this last great chapter
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  Speaker 3: of our lives, this juncture where we're both looking for
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  Speaker 3: our person and by some magical align of the moon
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  Speaker 3: and the stars, kismet, call it whatever you want, we
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  Speaker 3: find each other. That's what I'm looking for, and I
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  Speaker 3: believe it can happen.
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  Speaker 1: Kathy, you've mentioned this a few times.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I said we're gonna close up, but you keep saying
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  Speaker 1: this is the last final chapter. What it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: to me is your or taking away from the idea
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  Speaker 1: or opportunity that you could maybe have a really fun,
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  Speaker 1: serious relationship that would end and we would have to
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  Speaker 1: start over again. Is the standard? Here? One and done?
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  Speaker 3: When I say the last grade chapter, the ideal for
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  Speaker 3: me is to find that person to walk into the
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  Speaker 3: sunset with. Mind you, I don't want to roll him
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  Speaker 3: in a wheelchair into the sunset. Can we be clear
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  Speaker 3: on that as well? But yeah, things happen. You can
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  Speaker 3: date someone for three or four years, a year, six
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  Speaker 3: months and something changes. I just think at my age,
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  Speaker 3: I've had enough experience and enough wisdom, and I've learned
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  Speaker 3: enough life lessons that i would be surprised if I
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  Speaker 3: ended up with a guy and six months or a
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  Speaker 3: year later, I said, yeah, I'm done, because I'm I
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  Speaker 3: have too much knowledge to walk into that kind of relationship.
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  Speaker 1: We've mentioned a few times here what throws you off
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  Speaker 1: about somebody on a date or when you're dating. This
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  Speaker 1: is always a healthy practice that I try to do
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  Speaker 1: daily in my life. What do you think throw somebody
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  Speaker 1: off about you?
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  Speaker 3: I think when people first meet me sometimes I'm like
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  Speaker 3: a puppy. I'm so exuberant and they might say, whoa
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  Speaker 3: you know back girl, And so I've tried to temper
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  Speaker 3: that a little bit. I think it takes a little while.
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  Speaker 3: Keith said that actually on Paradise there's something happened and
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  Speaker 3: I started to cry, and he said, I can't believe
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  Speaker 3: you need to show that side of you more. It's
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  Speaker 3: hard for me to immediately be vulnerable, so I think
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  Speaker 3: that's something I have to work on.
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  Speaker 1: See, I don't see that in you. I remember we
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  Speaker 1: walked in even to the reunion of Paradise and I
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  Speaker 1: was in an office kind of getting prepped. Walked in,
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  Speaker 1: saw the group, saw you, and you were in tears
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  Speaker 1: just from seeing these other humans again.
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  Speaker 3: Cragging because people are so important to me. Relationships are
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  Speaker 3: so important to me, and I loved what I've loved
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  Speaker 3: to have met someone on Paradise, absolutely, but the relationships
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  Speaker 3: with those young's and getting to be close from friends
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  Speaker 3: with the Goldens that were there, that fed my soul.
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  Speaker 3: It really did. And seeing the most I was overwhelmed
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  Speaker 3: at how joy I'm crying again.
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  Speaker 2: There's wonderful people. That is the best thing that has
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  Speaker 2: come from this TV reality deal for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we could see that. I could see it when
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  Speaker 1: I was there. Was that you just really love these people.
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  Speaker 1: This is my final question, though, Well, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think people have wondered. I haven't heard you necessarily answer it.
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  Speaker 1: Even during the reunion you say things like, hey, Gary
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  Speaker 1: wasn't right for me. I see that. I get that
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  Speaker 1: Keith seems like the perfect fit for you. Like when
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  Speaker 1: I think of your ideal man at this stage of life,
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  Speaker 1: it's Keith. What didn't work there?
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  Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, Keith is looking for a younger woman,
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  Speaker 3: and Keith is he works full time.
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  Speaker 2: He wants a woman who lives in California.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and quite frankly, our relationship just started as friends.
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  Speaker 3: It's never you know, he's never said he wanted to
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  Speaker 3: date me. And Keith is like a guys guy. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he's a guys guy. He's he spends a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time with the guys, and that I don't. I want
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  Speaker 3: a guy who wants to spend time with me and
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  Speaker 3: the guys, not exclusively with me. Don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 3: But you know a guy who is is uh when
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  Speaker 3: it comes time to play golf, you know, doesn't mind
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  Speaker 3: that I use my foot wedge and doesn't care that
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  Speaker 3: you know, my seven iron sucks, but he wants to
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  Speaker 3: going golf with me occasionally, not just go out with
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  Speaker 3: the guys.
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  Speaker 1: Fair. Fair, that makes sense, Kathy, Thank you for the
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  Speaker 1: rapid fire, thank you for giving us all the intel,
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  Speaker 1: and the details will continue to get the thing. Only
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  Speaker 1: this has been famously available with our Golden gal, Kathy Swartz. Kathy,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Until next time, I've been Ben