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Joe Rogan Experience _2498 - Brendan Schaub · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Podcast check it out. But Joe Wigan Experience Train by Day,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan Podcast by Night all day. Hey, what's up
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  Speaker 1: brother Man? Good going on? It's a good time for
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  Speaker 1: you to come in man right after this weekend? Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: good brother bro. For I mean, everybody's talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Shan Strickland Hamzaw fight and the debate. But before we
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  Speaker 1: even talk about that, bro, how fucking good is Joshua
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  Speaker 1: Van And he's only been fighting about five years? Cool,
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  Speaker 1: that's what's scary. Crazy five years crazy and he has
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  Speaker 1: some holes for.
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  Speaker 2: Sure that that certain guys are you know, exposed, but
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  Speaker 2: five think how he's not the best on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: He's also twenty four. He's twenty four. Yeah, crazy athlete,
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  Speaker 1: but his fucking boxing it might be the best in
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  Speaker 1: the UFA. It's up there. It's him. Yeah wow. Ilia.
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  Speaker 1: The thing about Ilia is I is one punch night night.
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  Speaker 1: That's the difference. It's tough at Flyway to be a
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  Speaker 1: knockout artist. But then also Josh Davison Figrado true true
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  Speaker 1: starching people he was but.
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  Speaker 2: With Josh two again he's twenty four. But in Tutsy
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  Speaker 2: or Tyra he also just was blocking punches with his face.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing. Like his defense was so bad.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was that Joshua Van's offense was so good,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think it's kumba bowlt Yeah, it's a combo. Yeah, yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 1: Because Tyra is primarily a grappler, I mean, he's obviously
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  Speaker 1: a mixed martial arts fire and he did strike. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's why he didn't completely get blown out of
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  Speaker 1: the water. He did strike pretty well. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: counters came so clean, so sharp. Like I rewatched some
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  Speaker 1: of it today and I was like, good, lord, that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty so good. He looks so good. And again twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four four, and you know, it took all the
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  Speaker 1: stink off of the way he won the title.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the not not me, I'm sure not you.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of questions that haven't been answered.
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  Speaker 1: Pantosia is a motherfucker Potosia. Look at that, like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: how would you do against the Pantosia? Hey man? But again,
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  Speaker 1: his stock went up after this fight. I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 1: Look it was it was always up right, but Tyra
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  Speaker 1: was a real threat. Tyra got him on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't able to submit him. Joshuma Vane pieced him up
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  Speaker 1: on the feet man.
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  Speaker 2: But again at twenty four. So let's say they do
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  Speaker 2: the Pantosia rematch whatever at Q four, and let's say
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  Speaker 2: Pantosia gets that win.
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  Speaker 1: All good.
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  Speaker 2: He's twenty four, right, he's gonna be your champ for
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  Speaker 2: a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: And how long? How old is ale Chandre Pantosia this morning?
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  Speaker 2: Not young in flyweight years, he's sixty seven. Yeah, flyweight
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  Speaker 2: stop thirty six. Alter, that's tough. Yeh, that's tough.
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  Speaker 1: If he was a middleweight, you'd be like, mmm, that's
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the slide, Right, that's the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the slide. Yeah. For Walter White, you're like, ooh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but flyweight, oh bro, it's crazy. Yeah. Heavyweight is like
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  Speaker 1: always did his prime. Oh we're cooking at Yeah. Francis
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  Speaker 1: is like thirty eight or something. Yeah, yeah, thirty eight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Francis is in his fucking prime. Nobody looks at Francis
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  Speaker 1: and goes eyes over the hill. Oh never, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, there's some old cats at the heavyweight doing the
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  Speaker 2: damn thing, especially now.
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  Speaker 1: The heavy divisions. How old Volkov fifty nine honestly oldest day, right,
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  Speaker 1: he was a beltor champion, m one champion, he was
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  Speaker 1: a bellator champion in the early days of Belatore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember he had in Bellatore, and then when
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  Speaker 2: he first got to UFC, he had that mowana tattoo
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  Speaker 2: on his.
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  Speaker 1: Back, the sting and he changed into that Japanese mask.
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  Speaker 1: I like this, God, the one looks dope. The new
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  Speaker 1: one looks so dope.
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  Speaker 2: I like to think I'm the one that kind of
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  Speaker 2: bullied him into doing that, because it's all I ever
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  Speaker 2: talked about for like six years.
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  Speaker 1: When he fought, and it comes out just as dope
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  Speaker 1: ass Samurai tatto him, Like, yeah, well, sometimes you realize,
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  Speaker 1: like this saint making it. I gotta fix this, especially
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  Speaker 1: that people like, Bro, why do you have a fucking
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  Speaker 1: stingery on your back? Bro? Speaking of tattoos, how many
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  Speaker 1: tattoos does Sean Brady have? That motherfucker's feet are tattooed,
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  Speaker 1: b like his entire body's tattooed. How good did he look? Phenomenal?
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  Speaker 1: This thing phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: I was geting stress out because everyone's asking for betting
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  Speaker 2: picks before the fights, and I MMA is tough. Dude's
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  Speaker 2: tough to fucking pick. So with the Woking Buckley fight,
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  Speaker 2: the reason I told my brother m like, literally put
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  Speaker 2: your mortgage on Sean Brady because Woking Buckley did an
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  Speaker 2: interview like a week before it is like, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: working on grappling. I'm not restling or grappling. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna keep this thing standing. Knock this motherfucker out.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Budy, no way that. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: can find it out there. But that could have been
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  Speaker 1: just a bullshit tactic to try to get Sean Brady,
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  Speaker 1: because Sean Brady probably saw that interview too, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: was like cool, say less and just I know, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean ten seven rounds, three of them. I know
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  Speaker 1: it was nuts. But I mean you could say that
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  Speaker 1: I get I hear you. If you were just playing
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  Speaker 1: mental games, I get you. But maybe he actually did
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  Speaker 1: that and it appeared so well hard to say because
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  Speaker 1: that's how good Sean Brady is. Hard great, It's just
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  Speaker 1: tough when you lose like that, because you go back
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  Speaker 1: to the you go back.
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  Speaker 2: To the locker room, You're like, fuck, we're not even
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  Speaker 2: in the same ballpark. No, Like, I'm what am I
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  Speaker 2: gonna do? You look at your coach staff, you go,
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  Speaker 2: what are we gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was a top five guy, right. I
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  Speaker 1: just got beat ten to six, three rounds round Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna bring this up, so I have some
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  Speaker 1: insight to this. So there was a very strange betting behavior.
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  Speaker 1: It says it turns out to be meaningless. Bet Online
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  Speaker 1: cited abnormal betting patterns, as Buckley moved from plus one
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  Speaker 1: fifty underdog to minus two twenty favorite before the fight.
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  Speaker 1: So this is what happened. There was money that moved
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  Speaker 1: very quickly before the fight, and the UFC, obviously because
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  Speaker 1: they've been through this shit with the guys fixing fights
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  Speaker 1: and the FBI and investigated it, they got concerned, and
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  Speaker 1: so I believe what happened is they minimized the amount
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  Speaker 1: that you could bet online, so you couldn't bet big
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  Speaker 1: money anymore. I don't know what the let's find out
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  Speaker 1: what the cap they put on it was. But then
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  Speaker 1: you they were gonna go ahead with the fight, but
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure that Sean Brady wasn't injured.
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  Speaker 1: So this was the fear. The fear was that some
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  Speaker 1: inside camp word got out Sean Brady's got an injury
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  Speaker 1: and then all the money jumps up because that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times that's what happened. But they did it
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  Speaker 1: right because I before they would just canceled the fight,
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  Speaker 1: like we don't know what's going on, Aberteene cans fight, No,
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  Speaker 1: just take the fight off the betting sites. Well, they
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  Speaker 1: only did that one time. They did that one time
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  Speaker 1: with the Alexander Hernandez. I don't remember who he's fighting.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember who Alexander Hernandez was fighting, but they
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  Speaker 1: did that with that fight, and I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: really crazy crazy. They asked Alexander like are you okay?
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  Speaker 1: He's like I'm fine, Like I am planning on winning
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  Speaker 1: this fight. But for some reason he became an underdog.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing came out from it either. No, Like I wish they'd.
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  Speaker 2: Be a little more transparent, like, hey, we look into it,
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  Speaker 2: it's our bat this, you know. But they just cancel
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  Speaker 2: the fight and so everyone now we just assume something happened,
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  Speaker 2: something happened, somebody's being dirty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But then Hernandez fought again and lost his next fight.
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  Speaker 1: Though who did he fight? He fought someone on a
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  Speaker 1: fight night. It was a very good fight. Very close fight.
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  Speaker 1: The dude was very good. But I'm glad they're not
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  Speaker 1: just pulling the fight. Oh it was supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: Michael Johnson, but they didn't have that fight. And then
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  Speaker 1: who did he fight next instead? So let's just go
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  Speaker 1: over this real quick before he figured out who he
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  Speaker 1: fought and maid suspicious betting movement? So what a suspicious
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  Speaker 1: betting movement? Like what if you and your boys all
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  Speaker 1: go fuck it, I'm going all in and you just
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  Speaker 1: decided to bet one hundred thousand dollars on Buckley? Will
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  Speaker 1: that change it that dramatically? I think we're talking according
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  Speaker 1: to this.
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  Speaker 3: I think it said that they had certain they have
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  Speaker 3: I think they have a certain that they knew. Oh
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  Speaker 3: we're shady, not shady, but I mean they might be
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  Speaker 3: particular whales or whatever that are certain betters that always
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  Speaker 3: are betting, you know, two hundred thousand dollars a fight
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, and maybe one or two of them changed.
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  Speaker 1: The two of the judges scored that fight.
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  Speaker 3: Abnormal betting patterns from highly monitored accounts.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. Highly monitored accounts is interesting, bo, you better get
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  Speaker 1: a new account. Figure out they're on to you, bitch.
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  Speaker 3: But it also said that they called Sean Brady to
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  Speaker 3: hear at the bottom I was going to point out,
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  Speaker 3: so someone called him to let him know, and he's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm fine.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, I'm gonna beat the shit out of this guy.
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about, and like, yeah, you're gonna go.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what Alexander Hernandez said too. That's a bummer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it is a bummer, but you can also understand.
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  Speaker 2: You can also understand from the UFC standpoint and being
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  Speaker 2: like because when it happened, especially then.
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  Speaker 1: They're like whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh yeah, no, they're in
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  Speaker 1: a bad spot right now with that because until that
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  Speaker 1: gets resolved, the look the fight game has all always
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  Speaker 1: been connected to fucking shady people always. That's the Marlon
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  Speaker 1: Brando movie on the Waterfront. It could have been a contender. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: you know it's that's who he lost to. Oh that's right,
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  Speaker 1: Halfa Garcia. Very good fight, very good fight. Halfa did
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  Speaker 1: a phenomenal job.
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  Speaker 2: But I bet I think too, back to the betting,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's also a reason why now more than ever,
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  Speaker 2: fighters again so much hate because if you you know
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  Speaker 2: you have a nine to five and you make a
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a week and you put five hundred on,
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  Speaker 2: say Hamzatt, Yeah, and he loses that five hundred. That's
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  Speaker 2: why it's so toxic now because yeah, your guy's losing,
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  Speaker 2: but now it's costing you money. So I think that's
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  Speaker 2: why fighters are getting so much more hate these days
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  Speaker 2: than they did even when I was fighting.
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  Speaker 1: Betting was the thing. No, I think you're absolutely right.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's Rafa Garcia. Is it Hofa? Why am
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: I saying it wrong? I feel like it's Ralfa. I
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  Speaker 1: think so too. I think I went Brazilian on me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that you made a real good point about the betting,
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  Speaker 1: because that's why people are getting so upset because they
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  Speaker 1: are betting money on it. It's a big problem with
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  Speaker 1: some people. With some people, the ability to just bet
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  Speaker 1: on anything anytime you want. And now it's like polymarket
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  Speaker 1: and all these different things. You could bet on you know, anything, anything, anything, anything?
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  Speaker 1: Do you how about that fucking soldier that got busted
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  Speaker 1: type move he bet that Maduro was gonna get kidnapped. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't.
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  Speaker 2: But my thing is, it's like the Pete Rose thing.
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  Speaker 2: At least Pete Rose is betting on his team to win.
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  Speaker 2: This dude was betting on his fucking team to win, right,
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  Speaker 2: don't discipline him if you don't think Trump's giving him
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  Speaker 2: a pardon your your goddamn mind.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's awesome. That's a weird one. That's a weird one.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, why is that bad? But the inside
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  Speaker 1: trading in Congress goes unchecked? Oh my god, like that, bro,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy. Like if you get mad at that people
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  Speaker 1: with a hypocrite, you're still dealing with bestial forces. Guy
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  Speaker 1: who It's not like they're compensated.
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  Speaker 2: That great, right, And he was like, oh, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: bet the house that we fucking get this idiot.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And by the way, he's betting on himself because
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: it didn't have to happen. That's what I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: to work. They could have all got killed.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Pete Rose too, It's like, you keep him
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  Speaker 2: on the Hall of Fame. I think they're gonna let
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  Speaker 2: him in now that he died.
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  Speaker 1: But oh great, yeah cool, that help, thank you. But
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  Speaker 1: it's also like he never bet against his team. It's
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  Speaker 1: pretty gangster. I don't know if that's true. I'm pretty
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: sure I don't know. I've read something online. Really he
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  Speaker 1: might have against his team at least at one on
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  Speaker 1: one game. I don't know if that's true, though. I'm
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  Speaker 1: room for Pete Rose, but I just read something. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they might have been a Pete Rose hater. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I thought. That's what that's what. That's what's good. If
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  Speaker 1: you only bet for his team, I feel like that
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  Speaker 1: should be legal, That's what I'm saying. That's like the
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  Speaker 1: Special Forces guy, you're trying to win the harder. You're
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: trying to win harder because you want money. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: would be good. A Special Force guy like, dude, you're
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: really into this? Yeah, I was like, fuck yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I got a million bucks right on there. No confirmed
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  Speaker 1: evidence has ever produced that Pete Rose bet against his
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  Speaker 1: own team. There you go, the Cincinnati Reads. Though there's
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  Speaker 1: some speculation, all official speculation. I must have read speculation.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what the you say personally is Pete Rose
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  Speaker 1: probably bet against the Reds at some point, John Dowd said,
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  Speaker 1: But even he has acknowledged that his investigation did not
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  Speaker 1: produce conclusive proof of such bets. So if I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you should be able to bet on yourself as
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  Speaker 1: a fighter. I feel like you should be able to
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  Speaker 1: bet on yourself as a baseball player. Why not, We're
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  Speaker 1: just betting to win, now betting to lose. Different story,
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  Speaker 1: different story, but bet So if you're just saying, is
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  Speaker 1: that because you can't tell them how to bet? Like
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna let them bet, they have to be
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: able to bet on whatever they want. Like, Man, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm win this fight. I'm not gonna try,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try, but I think I might lose,
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  Speaker 1: So let me just see if I can make a
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  Speaker 1: little extra money just in case I lose. Say I
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: try my hardest, I lost, but still make some money.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. It just opens like can of worms. You
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the problem is nobody's right,
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: because then what if you want like I won, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I money because I fucking bet against myself like
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  Speaker 1: an idiot. Yeah right, you made no money this fight.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be a fucking psycho like to try
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  Speaker 1: to win knowing this is gonna cost you money, like
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  Speaker 1: your whole camp, paying your fucking traders, your manager, everything.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking night. Man, what's like the hamsat strickling fight?
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  Speaker 2: You and I, right, when that fight got announced, we
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  Speaker 2: text each other and I went, good fight, good fight.
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  Speaker 2: I know everyone's gonna you know, Homsot's a big favorite,
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  Speaker 2: but we both went, I don't know, man, I can see.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was nut riding for Strickland the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that guy is the fucking captain of
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: the deep water. He knows how to go into deep water, man,
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  Speaker 1: and he knows how to survive. He can survive. And
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: the thing about Hamzad is if he takes you down,
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  Speaker 1: he wants to hold you down and just beat on
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  Speaker 1: you and not not expand a lot of energy like
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  Speaker 1: he did with drekis that's an issue. You can't do
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  Speaker 1: that with Sean. Sean is not gonna sit still. He's
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  Speaker 1: very hard to hold down. He's got super underrated grappling,
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  Speaker 1: super underrated. You know when you saw he almost through
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: hamza like later in the fight, you know, and he
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  Speaker 1: did wind up on top multiple times like it's he
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  Speaker 1: ain't easy for anybody, far from it. And he had
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  Speaker 1: a blown out shoulder boom. That's the other thing.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's like, well, you know Hamzat was compromised because the
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: weight cut. It's like, well, hold on Sean had one.
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  Speaker 2: Sean had one fucking arm. And when he did through
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  Speaker 2: that right hand in that second round, he wabbled hamsa,
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  Speaker 2: No one wants to talk about that. Most significant punch
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  Speaker 2: was in the second round. Yeah, he flash knocks out
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  Speaker 2: and homs.
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  Speaker 1: That's like and he probably fucking jolted his shoulder with pain.
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  Speaker 1: And I still defend. Noticed he was doing this at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the fight. He before the fight started,
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  Speaker 1: he was doing this with his arm, so he's warming up,
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  Speaker 1: he's doing this, but he kept doing this with his
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  Speaker 1: right I'm like, ooh, that's what I do if my
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: shoulders hurt, to see how hurd it is. How does
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  Speaker 1: it feel? Yeah, how's it feel? And he was only
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  Speaker 1: going to hear, he was only going to here. He
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: kept doing but dead pan killer look on his face.
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  Speaker 1: That motherfucker still one. Yeah. Still, here's my thing about it.
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  Speaker 1: Still fought what a lot of guys would have pulled out.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of guys would have said, I can't use
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  Speaker 1: my arm, I'm pulling out, especially for that magnetul of fight.
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  Speaker 2: I think with Strickland too, now that he won, people like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: is he a Hall of Famer? One thousand percent one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent. He is a Hall of Famer. My thing
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  Speaker 2: with Strickland too, it's like he's gonna be a bigger
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  Speaker 2: start now more than ever. I think that fight is
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: the one that put him even bigger. The thing about
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  Speaker 2: Strickland is he's the guy that's not supposed to be
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: here like everyone when we talked about you know, Chechenians
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: or Dakastanians wherever these Wartne countries are from, and they're like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: this is the only way they made it out.
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  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Strickland grew up a poor white kid in America, disenfranchised. Dude,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: had an abusive father. The odds are so against Strickland,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: so against Strickland. And this motherfucker beat arkly the best
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: striking the midweight division.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Of all time.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: When is he outa sign and beat him at striking,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: at fucking striking in Australia and then they give him
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: arguably the best grappler of all time midweight division and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: he beats him. So he we're all all of you listening.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: All you guys are closer to Sean Strickland than you
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: are to Lebron James or Patrick Mahomes.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: He's just a tough white kid who trains his ass off.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: He's a blue collar guy. He doesn't run a forty
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: and a four to four. He doesn't have a forty
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: inch vertical.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: He got one bad leg from a motorcycle accident. He's
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: almost ruined his whole career. I get chills talking about dude.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: He's a He's the guy. He's that blue collar guy
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: through hard fucking work. Is a Hall of famer, won'ta
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: fight hall of famer, and beat two of the greatest
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: middleweights of all time and was under in all the sights.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: He's an underdog, fluffy underdog, DDP underdog. Granted he lost,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: but I thought he won that first fight. Ham's under
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: massive underdog. Is he massive underdog? Second fight with with DDP,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: he fucked the shoulder up too, driving a dirt bike
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: like a fucking psychopath, crazy crashing his dirt bike. Fucked
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: his shoulder up, and they told him, you how to fight,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: so you had to take the fight. So you had
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to take the fight with a fucked up shoulder. And
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: one of the things you notice about when he's throwing
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: right hands, and particularly in this fight, I noticed it
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: was they were awkward. Sometimes sometimes they just looked weird,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: like he was trying not to use his shoulder or something.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You compromise, yes, And I saw some of that in
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the second strickling, the second DDP fight, you know, where
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: it looked like he was kind of throwing his punch
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: is weird, you know, which sometimes he does anyway, because
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: he goes around the guards. It's strategic. He's throwing ship
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: that you're you're not gonna block correctly, and then he's
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: gonna land you clean shots. But when you see him
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: when there's nothing wrong with him, like he had this
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: giant break because he punched somebody and some fucking low
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: level of promotion busboy, so so they gave him like
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: eight month suspension something like that, six months suspension, whatever
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: it was. So you see him against Hernandez when he's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: perfect and he looks fucking phenomenal. His striking look fun phenomenal.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Everything looked phenomenal, and I'm like, oh god, he looks
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: like a better version of the guy who beat Izzy.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: He looked better've seen. And then he beats Hamza with
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  Speaker 1: your shot. And so if you count them out based
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  Speaker 1: on that fight, we all thought homes on. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people did. Look, it's a lot of people that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: know fighting. Thought hams on one. There's a lot. I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: think it's split among journalists. I think I was reading something.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Journalists don't read anything. I really read the headlines and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: then move on. Yeah, be careful with journalists.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I'll listen to former fighters in this or people I've
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: been around the game a long long time.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: If you have Hams out winning, yeah, okay, nobody was robbed.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I can give you a pretty good argument. Why circle
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: on that fight? Y? You know, I think I can
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: be a damn good It was like I was talking
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to him inside the octagon before the fight, said what
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: do you think? And I said it was really close.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: It was really close because you really never know what judging.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You know, we've both seen fights where we were sure
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that one guy won and the other guy gets it
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: from the judge don't know. So you know, in my opinion,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I would have to go over it and watch it again,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: because when I call fights, I'm just calling tough. I'm
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: not really scoring them super tough. It's weird because like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is make some entertainment out
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: of moments and put some weight to it and express
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: maybe to people that don't know exactly what's going on
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to partners in the boot right, Well, DC's great at that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: DC is the best at explaining shit to people that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on when it comes to like
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: wrestling in particular, because he's such an elite wrestler, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: there was a lot that was a lot of wrestling
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: moments in that, so like that's what you're doing, so
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you're not really judging the fight. If you're judging, you'd
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: be silent. Like Eddie Bravo used to judge fights unofficially
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: for the UFC in the early days. And what Eddie
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: would do is he would write. He'd have a piece
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of paper and draw a line down the middle for
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: each guy, and then he would have categories strikes, kicks,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: landed punches, landed, take down, submission attempts. It would he
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: would mark all these different things, like every time something
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: would happen, he would mark it down, and then he
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: would also go by who landed the most damage. And
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: he was really good at it, Like he was very
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: accurate in terms of like I never disagreed with him.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, that makes sense.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: But if your intention is to score the fight, like
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you don't have to be entertaining and do the commentating.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I can do that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's like I do commentate for a game bread and
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: there's a fight Fight of the night and Jimmy Smith
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: is going, who do you think one? I said, Dude,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: this isn't the time to ask because I was entertained
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: by the fight.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: We're doing our thing right right, I go home and watch.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I'll let you know exactly who won. It's such a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: close fight. I don't know, dude, Especially wars, especially a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: crazy war, it's so hard to figure out who won.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Some some wars, like like listen, you know, think of
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: like what if Tyra and Joshua Van had made it
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to the end. That's a tough one. That's a tough one.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, Joshua Van definitely did more damage, which is
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: number one thing. They are supposed to judge it us,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: so I would judge that in favor. We had a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: converse about the Gomes fight. Who was Gomas fighting uh
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Pat Sabatini. So Pat sabatin was fighting Gomas, and all
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Pat Sabatini did was clinch him and try to take
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: him down. Took it down a couple times. But when
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they were standing up, Pat landed a few strikes. Definitely.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was completely outclassed on the feet,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but Gomes landed more. So I'm like, okay, I know
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Pat spent the majority of the fight in control, the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: majority of fight, clinching, the majority fight, working towards the takedown,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: but fights, but it was unsuccessful. For the most part.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Gomas bounced back up to his feet every time, never
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: took any damage on the ground, never got close to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: being submitted, and then when they stood up, Gomas was
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the one who was going after him, landing strikes. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was enough to win though, because
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it's like there wasn't a lot of damage. It wasn't
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like he hit Pat and Pat got rocked and Pat
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: went down and there was none of that. But go
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Mis was doing better in the stand up, which when
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it comes to damage, that was the only damage of
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the fight.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: But the other saying you gotta take consideration. It's like,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I love DC's one of my favorites, but DC has
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: an extensive wrestling background, so he's usually gonna not that
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: he means to, but because he has such an extensive
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: wrestling background.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: If you listen to Kamara Usman, Henry Suhudo.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Most of them will score that fight for Hamza because
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: of the wrestling involved. But if you talk to someone
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: else who doesn't have a wrestling background it's more of
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a striking background, most of them score it for Strickland.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: So you always gotta I take it with a little
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: bit of graint of salt. When those guys are heavy wrestlers.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: If there's wrestling, but they weren't successful like tay Times
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: were successful, they're like, that's a takedown, but he didn't
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: do shit with it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Though. There's also the strickling factor. There's a lot of
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: people that he rubs the wrong way boom, and they
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: don't want him to win because of the wild shit
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that he says off stage. Listen. Sometimes he goes too far.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: He said he went too far. He apologized for going
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: too far. But god, damn, did you sell some tickets.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I like what you said there. You said, don't apologize,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you're selling a fight. Yeah, that's my thing too. It's like, well,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: oh no, no, don't apologize. Don't apologize for any of that.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Because on Monday, I was so excited to get in
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the studio.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I was so excited.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I felt like, for the first time in a long time,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the UFC's back.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I felt back. Man, It's I really think the UFC
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: has gone away. No, no, no, I'm not saying that
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: anybody don't get to it. I'm saying as far as
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like uh Connor Kabeb like bad blood, like big time.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Couldn't wait like I dude, I was. I was tech
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: day before. I'm take I can't fucking wait. It was
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: like I was so hyped for this fucking fight, dude. Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: It just felt like, you know, there's there's Connor day,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Kubeb days. Those are over, but this one the magnitude
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: of it. And I usually can tell when the fight's
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: can be really big because I'm always at baseball fields
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and football fields.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And dads will come like, dude, you think Strickland has
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: a chance. I'm like, you watch fighting like, oh shit.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, this can be huge, dude, this can
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: be fucking big.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Dude. It was huge, and it was huge because of
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the way Sean sold it. Not just Sean has a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: ton of fans, for sure, you know, but it was
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the way he sold it. The chaos people love it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: They love that, and especially casuals they love the chaos.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I love it too. I love it. John. He makes
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: things fun, makes things fun, and then.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: People get so mad, you know some of stuff he says,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: but it's like there's a lane for that. Hate to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: tell you there's a lane for that. And I think Strickland,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you've been around Strickland.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: He's a good person.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: He has some crazy thoughts and stuff like that, which
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: is fine, but remember too, people go, you see, he
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't have stars. And then you get a kid like
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Strickland who's building his name. It's to be the most
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: watched fight, one of the third most watched Waynes of
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: all time. So he's trying to be a star. So
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: you guys are complaining there's no stars. And when he's
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: doing the damn thing, he has a hate on him,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you know, so.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: It's like pick pick your poison. Well they're hating by
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the way he's doing it right that he's making things
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: super personal. And but this is what Connor did. I mean,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that's what Connor did with Connor crossed the line many
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: times with Kabeb. Buddy Grant's here. Connor was all the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: way over and there was no morselgizing after that. I mean,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that was the brawl afterwards where Kabeb, you know, jumped
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in the crowd and fucked up till Dannis. That was
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: my favorite. That's my favorite pitch of all time. I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: need framing my fucking suit. When Kabebe's literally flying off
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the fucking cage about the fucking.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: But remember before that fight. In the fight, Kabib was
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: all professional, he was all good. As soon as that
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: motherfucker inded, he's like, now it's time to.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Get to work. Yeah, dude, that is a crazy, motherfucking
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: world world champion. Just got done stopping Connor McGregor and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: he's leaping into the fucking crowd, just like his nickname
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and supers, Yeah the Eagle. His talents are fucking out.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't come up with a better nickname
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: for that dude. You know how Dan Henderson has that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: flying punch that he landed on visiting when was down.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: That's like his logo. That should be Kabebe's logo with
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: like he's like a flying, legal, fucking animal. Dude, that
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: was my guy. I love him. Oh you know, we
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: appreciated him while he's here, but maybe not enough.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: But but with with hamzat two, I also think a
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: couple of factors that went against him on Saturday night.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: He's been in big fights, but he hasn't been in
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: this big of a fight defending the middleweight title.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: You have this wild boy.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Talking so much shit, so I just I don't think
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: he's dealt with that kind of pressure at that level.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And then also Hamzat's always kind of had a cardio
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: issue because remember when I went to his camp, I
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: called you. I'm like, bro, I've never seen someone so
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: fucking I'm talking vicious, fucking.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Everybody up destroying him.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, So there's an issue
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: with him, and I don't know what it is where
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: that's not translating inside the octapany.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you right now. First of all,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: first part of the issue is the weightcut. He has
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to cut one hundred percent. Dude, he cut twenty two kilos.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Listen to me, he got forty something pounds. They were
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: making it so that he was gonna fight Yuri pro Hot, Right,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: so he starts bulking up and he's eating like a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: fucking animal, and he's deadlifting and doing all kinds of crazy.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I think he was above that. Yeah, yeah, he was
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: somewhere north of two thirty and so then he's two
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: thirty whatever, and so then he's got to drop down
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to eighty five, which is bananas. That's so hard to do.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: He never got fat. So what happens, Well, your muscle
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: gets eaten away. Yeah, your body deteriorates, you can't recover,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and he had a bad breakdown in the middle of
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the weightcut. Horror was here.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: His brother today was like, yeah, we thought his body
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: was gonna shut down.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So they took an hour off weightcutting, and then
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they went back and he only had like one point
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: two kilos to lose at that point, which is what
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: is that? Was that like five pounds? No? No, I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: mean two pounds, two and a half pounds, right, two
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and a half? What is it's two point two? Okay,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: so he was two though, if you're dying, you gotta
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: lose two pounds of water, two sixty ounce bottles of water.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: When he was let's say two thirty or maybe two
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: thirty five. How many weeks out was that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Do we know? I don't know, because because when Strickland.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Beat Fluffy, they were like, hey, forget this year he fight.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: You're finding out eighty five.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: It's a few months. It's a few months. But you know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: when you have muscle and not fat, it is a problem.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: It's a real problem. It's not the same problem. So
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: if you get big like Strickland gets in between fights
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like Strickland, there's a lot of videos of him training
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: where he's got almost like a belly. He's heavy, and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: he makes fun of himself. He's fat. That's a different fat,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that's different to lose. You can lose that. You can
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: lose that. That's not a problem to lose. When you're
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: bulked up, your body has decided that. Now you're two
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds and you're still working out all
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the time. So everybody's using those muscles all the time.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: So if you want those muscles to shrink, they literally
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: have to eat themselves. Yeah, so you have to fucking
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: starve yourself or you do a radical dehydration, which brings
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you to the brink of death. It seems like that's
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: what he did. Probably a factor, but my factor, dude,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: it's a factor, for sure. There's also a factor. But
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: it's not like in the DDP fight. In these other fights,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: not like he's going in there tenacious finishing guys. But
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the fight was just him in control. It was just
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: him grappling him in control and no intent to finish.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: That's my issue with him. True, he just wanted to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: secure the wind. I didn't hear what could be. It
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: could be And that also plays a factor when you're
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: dealing with a guy like Sean who's so durable and
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: has such great car deal and can take the fight
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: into deep deep waters and always does. Yeah, he always,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: He's always going after you. In the final round, the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: final round with Izzy, when he's got his hands down,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: he's screaming at Izy, come on. He gets better as
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that fight goes on. Yeah, and is he had noticeably
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: faded by that final round. Part of that because the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: beating that he took in the first right He mean
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: he got dropped to super close to stop. Probably can
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: cussed in the first you know, I mean that fucking
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: straight punch that he landed where he spun is he's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: head around and then hit him with how many fucking
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: left hands in a row? Yeah? Fifteen twenty left hands
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: in a row. I mean, let's count them. Let's watch
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: that and count them, because it's crazy. He just bang, bang,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: bang bang. If you think you're gonna go and just
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: fight normal, after that, you're concussed. Compromise. Probably you have
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: a concussion. Yes, just by the way he went down,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: his head spun around, it was a it was a
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: right hand. Right wasn't a right hand? Is the right hand? Yeah?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And it picture perfect right hand, picture perfect straight right.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I mean it was picture perfect, and you don't get
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: a cleaner, better right hand, and then blast him with
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: all those punches in the clinch. You're gone. After that,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: You're you're a shell of yourself. You're got.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I think my thing with Hamzad too is after again
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: you you could chalk it up to the weight cut.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: That second round when he doesn't land that takeo on
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: falls to his back, I'm.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Like, oh he's cooked, dude. I think six motherfucking fight
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and your coat's body was shutting down. And he realized
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: that he went real hard in the first round but
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the gas tank and said, let me coast.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I could survive on the bottom here, but I need
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to catch my breath if I'm going to try to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: finish this guy. Might have been a strategy, and he
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: got better that third, fourth, fifth round, right, because the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: strategy might have been listen, if I'm on my back,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: no big look. He tries for a takedown, can't get it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: He realized like, oh Jesus, I'm not gonna be able
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to fight standing up like this for five minutes after
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that first round because his body almost shut down. Twenty
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: four hours ago. Twenty four hours ago. It is the
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: dumbest fucking thing we do in the sport where we
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: allow these people to pretend that they weigh a certain way.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You pretend you, Oh, it's a one hundred and eighty
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: five pounds fight, the fuck it is? He one of
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: those guys one hundred. Strickland is actually a bigger guy
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: than him. Stric it's a big boy. Stricklan that night
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: in the cage is a bigger dude. Well, he definitely
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: looked healthier, right, And I think part of that you
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: could attribute to the fact that Hamzad is killing himself.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Well, what Hamsad say to Dana as soon as you
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: jump back cage goes, I'm done fighting now, I'm going.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: To a fly. But apparently now always talking about his
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: remax back on. Yeah, it's back on so much, you know.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: So what he's got to do, love, he has got
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to limit his calorie intake and he's got to literally
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: burn the muscle off. He can't just keep dehydrating himself
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: like that. So you would have to talk to someone
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: who's an expert at that. But my friend Cam Haynes,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: when he runs these ultra marathons. What he does is
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: he gets himself down like one hundred and sixty pounds.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: And the way he does it is he just limits
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: his fucking calories and keeps working out the exact same way.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: And he looks terrible what he does. Yeah, he looks
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: so tired all the time. But it's just sheer willpower
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gets him down to that weight. But that is slow
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: running for days. Correct, it's a different thing. We can't
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: do that, right. What he's doing is exploding and moving quickly.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: And I my personal opinion is you have to be
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: biologically healthy to do that. You have to be a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: healthy person. You you can't just be big, right, and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you're not healthy if you almost died a day ago, correct,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Because that's really what's going on. And we think these, ah,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: these guys can recover, but how much they recover, well,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: they fucking for sure don't recover one hundred percent.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Not an That's why I'm excite for him at two
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: five Like a lot of people like, oh, I don't
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: like them, Like if it's a if the weight is
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: an issue at two of five, if he's one hundred
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: percent of homs, I know you might be a little undersized.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: But one hundred percent in homs eye could be a
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: lot better than a that's great.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Ain't gonna do it. He's gonna you didn't fucking make
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the weight the first time. One hundred percent, he's gonna
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: he's gonna talk mad shit. It'll be fun. He's a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: fucking coward. I beat him with one arm. It's gonna
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: get crazy. You gotta fight him at midleway. But he's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: got to go to some expert in losing weight.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not saying Stricklyn Hams at two of five.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: That's no. No Strigling's gonna no, no Strigens. Don't stay at
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: fucking eighty five and dominated no Hamzat. He's gonna do
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that rematch, and then that's it. He's a tool fiver. Well,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's or to your point.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: He has to maintain a weight that's realistic. We can
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: still perform, but he has to figure that out. He's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: got to stop lifting weights.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Right. So whatever he was doing that got him up
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: to two hundred and thirty pounds or whatever whatever he was,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: we're guessing, right, that's what i'd heard that he was
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: north north of two thirty. Whatever he was doing he's
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: got to not do that, and he's got to do
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: mad cardio, just just cardio, like working out, like wrestling,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: hitting the bag, hitting pads, and cardio.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I'm a big proponent of do do your sport, get
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: your cardio from your sport, Like I see it across.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: The board, Like I get a little a little.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Hesitant when I saw all these videos of Hamzat, you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: hitting the tire with the hammer and doing all these runs.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but I'd rather you get your cardio
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: from actually wrestling against top level guys and fucking get
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: after it, dude, because what Strickland do?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Do you see Strickland doing all this heart rate monitor? No?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Why is his card is so good? Because he fucking
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: spars like a madman all the time. So the Strickland
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you see in that training camp is the exact same
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: motherfucker you've seen the octagon. There's no issues.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you got these guys you know, run their hill
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: sprints and do all. I'd rather get your cardio in, uh,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: in your actual sport. I see it at the lower
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: level to uh with with kids I coach football, baseball,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: These dads like I don't get it, man, I'm doing
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the foot ladder drow with my son five days a week.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Can't catch football. I'm like cause because there we're not
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: trying to see you as the best foot ladder fucking
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: who can do it the fastest.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: We're catching football's dude, do you think catch footballs if
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you want to get better at football? But do you
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: think that some of that stuff has a purpose? Yes,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: but not not close to the fight. Interesting because usually
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: what we would do is.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Out like, uh, let's say you do have a week camp.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Before the camp starts, we're doing a lot of that stuff,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: and then once we get a camp, the focus was
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the cardio was getting it in in your training.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Mm hm. You know who agrees with you? Al Jamyin
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and Sterling. Aljamin talked about this pretty good? Pretty good?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: How good did he can look against the law? Dude,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: best back control in the game. So, and I don't
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: why is he so underrated? I don't get it. Why
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: it's fucking crazy. The victory where he had an injury
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: from an illegal shot and people hated on him from
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: then on out. I know he's amazing.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: That was a fucking split decision. Some people thought he won.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he could have easily won that motherfucker so good. Yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Algamy is the man, but he said that Morob does
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Now, who the fuck has better cardio
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: than Morob? I would say nobody. Nobody alive ever in
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: any sport.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen maybe that guy that broke the fucking
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: whatever's four minute mile or something, but as far as.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: We but he ain't getting taken down. He's at getting
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: punched in the face. People should just go to Rob's camp, like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? He wrestling? I'm fucking wrestling. He
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: does run, he does run, and he does lift some
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: weights every now and then, but he doesn't do any
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: of that crazy garage stuff. And one of the guys
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: that spoke out against the garage stuff was Cub Swanson.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say spoke out against it, but what he
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: did say was that when he did that, because he
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: did some of that training lab stuff, he said he
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: was too broken down. He said he was overtrained, and
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: he said he was just too tired when he was
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: going into like fight camp. Yeah, like you're doing all
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the other stuff too. You're you're still boxing, you're still
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: box to, you're still wrestling. And he said he did
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: badly in those fights, which is interesting because you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the marvn Mirindovitch approach was very different with BJ Penn
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and that was the best bjpen ever, the best bjpen ever.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: But they literally did no fight training. What they did
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is all pliometrics, and it's different from the stuff the
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: training lab stuff's doing because the training lab stuff he's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: doing bicycle work and a different because that's what Sam
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Calvita came from, came from a cycling background. What Marv
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: was having him do was all pliometric stuff and just
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: build this fucking insane machine. He's like, BJ, you already
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: know how to fight. Fact, you're not going to get
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: better at fighting in eight weeks, right, fact. But what
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: we can do is gives you an unstoppable gas tank.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And one of the things that always fucked BJ up
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: earlier in his career is that he wasn't when he
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: was training himself or when he had you know, wasn't.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: It wasn't the most different thing. He's phenomenally talented and
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: freak freak and one of the things that won the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: world the Mundials at three years in to jiu jitsu
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: as freak, like nobody does that that's why he's almost
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a bad example. You know what I'm saying. It's like, yeah, right,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: but what he The problem with really talented people and
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you'd probably agree with me, they tend to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: not work as hard, right, Like Sean, although he's a
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: world champion, he's not a guy where you see like,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: oh my god, he is so talented, like what he
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: does is like no one can move that way, no
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: one can do what he does. Like, you know, there's
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: certain guys that are like hard work. So the guys
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that are super talented, it comes a little easier for them,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and sometimes they have a harder time with the hard
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: work because they're not used to getting beat up. They're
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: not used to getting pressed. So when they have to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: do this drill where you're rotating in new sparring partners
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: over and you're exhausted and when you're doing that, hell,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: they don't like that. No, So some guys avoid that shit.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: They just want to be tuning guys up spot on. Yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and so those guys when they're fighting at George Saint
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Pierre are someone of a commensurate at skill level, they
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: might fade yep, because that guy got there and through
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: a different path. I mean, George always a phenomenal athlete,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: one of the best wrestlers in MMA ever and didn't
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: even come from a wrestling background. I mean, George is
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: one of the all time greats. There's not like one
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: thing that George would do that would make you think
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: like that guy's a freak out athlete. There's never been
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: anybody like him like that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Far from it, to your point, far from because I
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: trained with George forever, and when we did, they would
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: have to do some stuff like I did in the NFL,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: like sprints and vertical and the agility drills like nothing,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: nothing crazy, No, But BJ was BJ was crazy.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: BJ's crazy. BJ could do stuff where you like, how
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the fuck can you do that? BJ could jump out
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of a pool and land easy. You know, BJ can.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: He has insane flexibility, Like the way he moves his legs,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: his balance is nuts. There's a video of someone trying
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to take him down and they have a single and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: they are driving across the camp and he's one hopping
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: with zero fear of being taken down.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Like, but to your point, like the BJ's that talented
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: John's another one, yep, where it's right exact exact perfect talent,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: so fucking talented.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And then the difference being like John always figured out
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a way to win. And John, if he had a
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: bad camp for one fight, he would come back in
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the next fight and really fucking put it to somebody, right,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Like the Gustafson fight. First fight with Gustfson, he doesn't
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: train at all. I talked to Craig Jackson. He's like,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: he barely showed up at all, barely showed up in
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the gym fight war and pulls it out in the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: final two rounds. It's crazy, gets taken down for the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: first time. We see him get taken down by Gustipson, like,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Gustison might be the man. And John
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: pulls it out. So the second fight comes around and
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: John trains hard, and John fucks him up, I mean
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: fucks him up in a way like this is what
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: would have happened if I tried, if I prepared the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: way you prepared. This is which how goes you get
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: a fucking beating, you know, And this is the dance
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: of like who's the greatest of all time? And that's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: why the argument in most people's eyes is that John
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time because John was all
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: those things, super talented, and when push came to shove
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and he had to get back into work and get it,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: he would do it, and he would pull it off.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Against d C. He would pull it off. The steep
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: A fight was I think that was not steep A.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: That was no. That's when you like, when you talk
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: about his resume, like, all right, you know steep A
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: is the steep A that you know ran through the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: heavyweight division, the steep A that knocked out Alist or Overheim,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that beat from brist Over doing for the titles, beat
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Francis when Francis was just crushing everybody, And I think
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that took a lot out of his chin. That Francis fight,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I really changed him because DC knocks him out right
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: after that, and you know it wasn't the biggest punch
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in the world. Now, it was a big punch, but
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I mean he had taken bombs from Francis. Yeah. Back
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to John being the gusts of all time, It's like
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: when you look at his resume, it's just like phenomenal,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: phenomen It's longest every UFC champion crazy. But as far
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: as like jo Josh Barnett winn earlier. No, I think
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: John's the youngest. John's the youngest, and Josh was the youngest,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Joshua Van second. Now right, So Josh Burnett won the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: heavyweight title, what twenty four yeap and those boys were Well,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it didn't strip him for steroids when everyone was doing steroids.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: That is cool. It's like ww you guys get busted.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: You're like, come on, like, bitch, you ain't tested and
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: everybody you just don't like Josh the way to get
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: him out.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I love Josh the way to get him out. But yeah,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: back to John, it's like you look his resume, grace
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to ever do it? Yeah, beat the very best and.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Murderers row, murderers row. Now you know it's not even
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: comparable to today's light heavyweight and heavyweight. But then you
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: don't think so. No, Well, listen close when Alex heavyweight,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: when Alex was the light heavyweight champion, it's certainly comparable
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Alex as the light heavyweight champion, of the Alex that
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: beat Malcolm metof the Alex that knocked out Yuri pro Hosca,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the Alex that starches everybody that fucked up Jamal Hill.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Like that Alex Pereira and John Jones, and his prime
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: would have been insane. That would have been insane, oh man,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: tough to beat the wrestling of John. Like John's wrestling
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: was on a totally different his IQ. His IQ would
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: be could he do to Sheryl gone crazy? I mean
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: he avoided the shots, He's read him like a book,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: bullied him, bullied him, got all of his neck, and like,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I'll take that.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: But dude, if you, if you, if you go back
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: and look at John is my fighting years too? You
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: look at that light heavyweight division one through fucking fifteen.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Good luck that's especially heavyweight, true, but fucking luck.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: But at light heavyweight. Okay, so not a lot of
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: those guys are ranked on top ten. How do you think, Uri, Well,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: let's let's think of Alex. How do you think Alex
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: would have done against Gustafson? Very tough fight for him?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You think so? Gustin in his prime? Yeah? I think so? Yeah?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: And do you think that based on the to share
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a fight? Because he pieced up Glover? Remember that fight? Yeah? Bro,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: that was a video game combination he knocked out. Dude.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Alex is one of those guys similar to DC that
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: when John just Ran as Champ. It's like if if
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Alex was just born at a different time, maybe five
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: years before, five years after.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Hes are John Jones. He was so fucking talented, huge,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: six six sixty seven, great wrestling, great but world class boxing,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: good at everything, dude, great party in the division with
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the goat. You fucked, Yeah, yeah fucked. Your mom and
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: dad did have us decide have sex same time John
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: and his parents did. Look at Look at what happened
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: with Iliot Daporia. Think about the guys that he's fighting.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Think about Max Holloway, think about Charles Olivera, think about
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Alexander Volkodowski, and he has blast all of them into orbit,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: all three of them, first guy ever to stop Max.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: It's like, you will, you will? If you're in that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: guy's division, what are you gonna do, especially at forty five.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's gonna be like at fifty five.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously the Olivera fight was a one punch knockout, but
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: that was such a bad knockout, crazy knockout. But when
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you see him and Justin next to each other, like, WHOA,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Justin is quite a bit bigger, just a big cat.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: He's quite a bit bigger, like it's it's a different
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: fight than it's different. But but fuck, then you see
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: what Olivera was able to do to Max, You're like, good, lord,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Like Olivera is a fucking beast, phenomenal, and it couldn't
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: do none of that to Ilia. Yeah. The only thing
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: with all that is, like the fifty five division, everyone's
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: no one's in.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: The prime, Like Charles's in his prime when gonna beat him.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Justin's definitely not his prime. Max is in his prime.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: They're all good, they're fucking good, but not prime prime.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: And the issue is ili As just getting to his prime.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Just getting to his surging and already one of the
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: greatest of all times. It's a fucking problem. Yeah, he's
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: so smart and so disciplined and so like completely focused
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and dialed in, great at every gated everything, great at everything.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is didn't even start as a striker,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: started as a grappler.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Now his toughest matchup is Armace Rukin. That's the motherfucker
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and fight that. But that's what That's what I was
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: gonna say with with Homsat, he's not active. I know,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I'm jumping around little bit but with Homsat, I think
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: one of his issues with whatever's going on inside that
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: O gun weight cut. Clearly there seems to be a
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: mental block when it comes to finishing fights because he's
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: were about gassing out our raf take a game page
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: out of fucking Shrukans book. Just wrestle all the Sarukins.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I think he's wrestled like eight times as fucking now,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: just fucking dudes up, making all the money. It makes
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: six figures every time he fuck somebody up.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: But he's active, he's staying active, staying competing in the UFC's.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Going yeah, go ahead and do it.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: So for Homsat, dude, because he fights once a year,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: which is not good dude. So it's like stay active
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: over there, stay active like like Armas Rukins doing keep
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: your weight down.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's interested in doing that. He
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: signed with him, Yeah, but what was the fight that
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: they signed that he was gonna he was gonna wrestle somebody?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Who was it? Do you remember? Uh?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I think they want to toss him like an Olympian,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: which I which is That's where it gets nicy.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's my fear. There was a recent event there
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: was a very weird event. I don't know who did it,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: but it was kicks to the leg, punches to the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: body and jiu jitsu. Have you seen that? No, get
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of my face. It was weird. So
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Glason Teabow was fighting. I apologize, I don't remember who
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: was fighting. And he takes this guy down and the
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: guy catches, you know, is trying to avoid the takedown.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: He catches his knee in a weird way and it
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: blows out. So that could happen to fucking anybody. Wrestling
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: is a little safer, though I don't know about that
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: because this was in the wrestling exchange that he took
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: him down. Yeah, but those those guys aren't exactly like
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: high level wrestlers. True, Like RIF has its top tier ship. Yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: no doubt. So good, No doubt, it's so good. Wrestlers
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: blow their knees out all the time. True, it's just
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a part of the craziness of explosive movement. And a
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: guy is coming after you, and.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: It's kind of what you sign up for. So it's like, dude,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: we can't fight fucking once a year, and they have
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: wait issues, and clearly there seems to be a mental
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: block and you get finishes because your cardio.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Let's do raf let's get this.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Rolling keeps your weight down, keep you active, also keeps
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: you in the limelight, like Arman.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Has blown the fuck up. Dude. True he's a massive
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: star now, true, especially online. I don't know how much
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: that translates to. It's a great general public. That's great.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Dorks like us, dorks like that fucking point we are
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: some riding his nuts? Could he beat Georgio twice? Uh?
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Is it Lance Palmer? The rest that he tech fauled?
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Which if nuts nuts your favorite? Yeah? Threw over the fun?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: That was crazy? Why did you do that? What if
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you both got hurt? What if you hurt? Was a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: bit of a mainhead? Well he's a psychopath. Yeah, he's
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a full on psychopath. I mean he's rich, dude, he's
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: literally wealthy. Do you see him on that stream?
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: They go so like if you want to like buy
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a car, like five hundred thousand car, what do you do?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I call my dad? Yeah? His dad's like a billionaire.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: He's got tons of money. But he's not lazy at all.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: He's like he flies in the face of this like
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: long standing belief that we all had that if you
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: come from a rich family, you can't be a great fighter.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: He's batman. It doesn't matter if he can you come
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: from the ghetto, He's gonna fuck you up like he's
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: some fucking dudes like I'm from the favelas, you know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: like good luck, cool man, good luck with that fucking
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Armenian psychopath. And he's pulling up in a may box.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: He pulls into l A. I watched his YouTube videos
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: hed you know, shows him training and all the different
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: stuff he does. He when he lands in l A,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: he goes immediate to an exotic rental car place and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: rents a Lamborghini and drives it to the training lab.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Like not the way it's supposed to work, but he
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: pulls it off. Bro, good luck with that guy. Good
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: luck with that guy. Like a Greek god can wrestle
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: like a fucking elite, top tier wrestler, and he can
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: strike and he can submit you good luck. And he's
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: angry because he's denied a shot at the title because
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: he hurt his back when he was getting ready to
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: fight Ill, which.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Is the best thing that ever happened to you think,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: so yeah, because look how much big because he we
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: were fucking dorts and we knew who he was. But
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: the general like, especially online, no one his profile's so big.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Now I think it's just with dorks. I mean I think,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: but those dorts the equal sponsorship. Yea money. Well, here's
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the deal. There's only one compelling fight. Look at the
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: fucking build on this cat. That is not a guy
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that grew up with a billionaire dad who could just
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: go buy a fucking Lamborghini with his credit card if
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: he wants. He's Bruce Wayne, but his parents are still alive.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It's there's no reason to be upset. Well, I'll tell
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you what, Armenians. Look at the fuck shut the fuck
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: up man, Just shut up, great body. That's ridiculous. That
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: makes me want to just quit and eat fucking potatoes
• 52:47
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  Speaker 1: But it's like he's the compelling matchup for Ilia. If
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Ilia gets past Justin. If Justin beats Ilia, it is
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: not only one of the greatest upsets of all time,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: it is one of the greatest caps to a career
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: of all time. Like if he all through what he's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: been through, wins the interim title, wins the BMF title.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: If he does that and caps his career off you go.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, dude, wait to go out, brother. If he
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: beats illipere UFC Freedom two fifty in front of Donald Trump,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: he's the only American that gets the belt.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: It's bigger, It's beyond just m M a UFC. Yeah,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: markl and Ice fuck off.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: This is imagine the headlines, dude. Yes, And if he
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: beats that guy in his prime, who's knocking everyone into
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the shadow realm, he says to Charles Olavera, I'm sorry
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it has to be you. Has a celebration party the
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: night for the fight, at a party, had a party.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: He was drinking wine and chip. No he wasn't, was he? Yeah,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: pretty sure he's drinking wine. No, I think it was water. No,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's drinking of wine. Imagine that fucking psychopath.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Did you get started? Yeah, and he's got that beautiful
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: fucking Spanish accent. Yeah, dude checks all the boxes. It's
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: such a tough fight for Justin, but I'm rooting for.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I love both of them, but just for the sheer fact.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Of again, I like chaos at that in front of
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the weird elites watching the fight. You don't know what
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: the fuck's going on. It's gonna be great if Justin
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: pulls it off.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if Justin pulls it off, would be one of
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the greatest upsets of all time, one of the greatest
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: victories of all time. And if he does just retire
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: to pour your plans to celebrate before the gaychee clash
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: at the White House. Of course, he's gonna celebrate whatever
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: he's doing. That's his move. Whatever he does, massive celebration
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: dinner the night before his lightweight bout, We're gonna celebrate
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: before the fight. Actually, we have everything organized. My team
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: has already taking care of that. That's a mind fucking
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and a half. When you're in your hotel room, you know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: and you're just fucking scrolling on Instagram, thinking about twenty
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: four hours from now you're gonna be fighting, and you're like,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: what's what's this asshole doing. Oh, he's fucking standing on
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: top of a table dancing. That's how that's how sure
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be put the fuck out of here. He's
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: eating spaghetti and fucking doing a salsa dance. Like, what
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: the fuck are you talking about? Man? Yeah, and when
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: did you see when all the fighters at the White House?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Trump's Like I thought, you liked this guy, You're like,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: oh fuck, because why would you give your friend his
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: toughest tests. Yeah. Yeah, Well, for Gaichee, that's the last fight.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, if this is really going to be his
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: last fight, that is the last fight. And it's smart.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: It's smart because that that that Patty fight is you know,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: entertaining fight for the casuals. As far as technical wise,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: it was so sloppy, man, it was just so sloppy.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Well, Justin told me that that's what he wanted to do,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: what you should do. He just wanted to just go
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: fuck you and just come at him and just throw
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: caution to the wind and just almost fight like he
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: did like back in the PFL day World Series of Fighting.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: That's what it was, right, Yeah, that's right. That's exactly
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: what she would be doing and that's exactly what should
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: have done. And then for Patty, it was it was
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: a sloppy fight, but he got the job done. But
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you can tell like and it's all good. This isn't
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: a knock on Justin.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: All the years, all the wars, one of the greatest
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: careers we've ever seen.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: It catches up with you.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: It has to announce. Here's Iliot Toporia. But again, I
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: bet Justin wouldn't have it any other way. You have
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to pull off one of the biggest, if
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: not the biggest upset we've ever seen.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: And Trevor Whitman White House, The Justin has an awesome series,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: The Art of Violence, I think it's called. It's on
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: YouTube and it's all talking about him preparing. It's all
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: videos of him training, and Trevor Whitman's in it. And
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Trevor was saying, we love being the underdog, we love it,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: And he talked about being the underdog with Rose noama
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Unis when she beat Yo Wanna you know jcheck sure
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: when she beat Young way Lee, same thing like that
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: they love being the underdog in no situations like stopping
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Way Lee was not crazy. You know that she was
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: the underdog head kicks her ye crazy and that this
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: is a little different, but I hear it. It is different,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: but it is it's similar in ways. The Jeangwae Lee
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: is because Jean Louis was fucking everybody's scary. There's no
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: one like her. The physicality of her at straweight, she
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: was a fucking monster, like her training was bananas crazy,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I'd watch her training, go good, lord, who's gonna beat her?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: She's like her shoulders and ship. But the way she trains,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: she trains like a dude, Like an angry dude, you
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like women haircut the show and
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: it's not a knock on the way women train. I'm
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: not saying that. I'm saying like, the ferocity was like
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: she's filled with testosterone, like she's trying to kill somebody.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Probably it might be natural. It might have slipped something
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: into her noodles. To see that one fighter who got
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: busted and she goes, oh, man, I was I took
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: my husband's vitamins to just have the steroids. Yeah, my husband.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: She threw her husband under the bus for taking steroids.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: He fucked up. Is he an active fighter? I don't.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Is he. No, he's probably just
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: on meat head and he's like, yeah, I guess yeah,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: me too, because if he's an active fighter, he'd be like,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: what what the fuck?
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: We're both fuck yeah? Yeah, say somebody gave you the
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: wrong thing. Yeah.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: But he went back to Wayley and uh and Rose.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: The difference with that is Rose was still pretty innerprime there, you.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Know, one hundred. That's that's a good point. That's a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: good point, real good point. Justin's not in his prime,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: but damn, he didn't look like he lost a step
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: in the Patty Pimblet fight. He looked like he just
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: was just being an animal. And Pimblet's fucking good man.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: You see what Pimblet did to Bobby Green. And granted,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Bobby Green's not quite at the same level. Although he
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: looked he look good against Jeremy Stevens. He keeps doing
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the damn thing. But also that style is so fun,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: talking ship, pointing at you and man. So how about
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the end of the fight. When I'm interviewing him, He's like,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: come walk with me, and he takes me over to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Danny's Joe. Dana, Yeah, he wants that bonus. They've never
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: given a bonus. He was just talking about it. He's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: one of the most exciting fighters. He's ever done it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, everybody knows that. He's like, why I didn't
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: get my fucking bonus.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm kind of with Dana on the bonus.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Danny goes, well, we do it. Also your strength of
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: your opponent, like zie.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Hooper was good, dude, He beats Zoe Hooper in his
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: last fight, that fight he should have got for that one,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: that's what he was talking about. Well, but for this
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: last fight, for his last fight.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: You know, you fight Jeremy Stevens, great fight, great fighter,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: but you know, compared to like the other guys on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: the card. Yeah, that's why Dann's like, well, well.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: But he was complaining about not getting a bonus in
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: his last fight. That's why he wanted a bonus in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: this fight. He was saying this because I even asked him,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: I go, you didn't get a bonus for his Zie
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Hooper fight.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: He got twenty five K, right, because did they finished him?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: If you get a finish, no matter what you get.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: But he wanted the big boy.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: But the big boy boy. Yes, yeah, I hate all
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of it. I hate people that have to ask for bonuses.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: You know, look, the money is there, right, we know
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the money's there, Like, this is a seven billion dollar deal.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not a businessman. I'll say that right now. If
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I was running the UFC, the stockholders, they would fucking
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: kick me out. Yeah, shareholders would all be pretty fired.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah I wouldn't. Yeah, you don't want you don't want that.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: You don't want me running now the UFC because I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: treated like I was a communist. I'm also yeah, me too.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I'm also a little more careful the way I talked
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: about it too, because I don't know their books.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to run a giant company like that.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I assume with seven point seven billion dollars, I'm like,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like we could give some over here.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: But then if you talk to somebody in another like,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: oh do you well look at this motherfucker, I'm like,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: oh my bad. Okay, Now this is not a knock
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: on Ariomanual, but it was reported that he made sixty
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: seven million dollars last year. It worked very hard. I'm
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: sure he did, but that was from the UFC for TKO, right,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: that was his payout, and he's got a bunch of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: other things going on. He's a very successful guy. But
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: is he the reason they sold for some points of
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: a billion dollars. He's a big part and the big
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: and also he took the big chance in purchasing it
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: for two billion dollars, which was a big deal. You know.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is like, this is why you're in business.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I think fighting is different than any other business. And
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the reason why I say this, and you could speak
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to this more than anybody. You are putting your health
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: on the line in a way that is not required
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: in any other business other than maybe football and boxing
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: and kickboxing. You're putting your health on the line in
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: a way that's different than any other business. You are
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the only thing that people are tuning in for. There's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: without the fighters, there is no UFC. It doesn't exist.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: It is the entire product. The thing you're selling is
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: entirely fighters, and it's fighters that operate for a short
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: window of their prime. They have ten years or whatever
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: they have, and when they get out. You know, we've
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: all talked about guys that are mumbling now you can't
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: understand what the fuck they say. You see, like ticks
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: that they have, and guys who have neurological problems, memory problems.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: It's real. So I don't think we should think of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: it like any other business because the entire business model
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: is these guys' bodies and the consequence is their health,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: and it's for the rest of their life. And so
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: if you're doing something that is generating a significant amount
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: of money for a very short amount of time, I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: think you should get a lot of money for that.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: If you're one of those people. The amount of money
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: that is left over for the other people, the people
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: that are making the money that put the money in,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: they should still get a lot of money, which is
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: why they did it in the first place. But I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: don't think the balance is correct now. I am biased,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: right because again I'm not a businessman, but I have
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: a deep empathy for people who put themselves in front
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: of harm and try to chase that glory for our entertainment,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: for the sport that we love, and I think they
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: should be compensated more. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're I mean, obviously we're biased because
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: we love fighters and I was a fire. It's not
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: even about being biased. It's it's just fairness. It's fairness.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: It's fairness in the marketplace. And well, the thing is,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: it's such a dicey thing.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: And I know people hate when I bring up fighter talk,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: and I get sick of it too because I don't
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: know what you can really do because I'm simple.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I go, is it though, Because here's the thing.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: People will go, Okay, they've made seven point seven billion,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: here's here's their overhead. We don't know what's going on,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: but it's like if the UFC is the only the only.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Sports or combat sports promotion to ever make money ever, right,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: nobody else has ever done it better or made profit.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: So my thing is like, is this is this what
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: it is?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: This just what it is. I know some people are like,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: you're such an idiot. They have this left over money.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I hear you.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying is there's PFL, bellatur Affliction World Series.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: We can go through the list one championship. None of
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: them are around, some are on their last leg. No
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: one's ever been able to sustain it. So all I'm
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying we don't deserve more fucking money.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is is this just how it goes
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: in the fight business. I don't know. I'm not businessman.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I know people are yelling right now, you're fucking it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, is fighting different where Hey man, that's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: just it's not the NFL, it's not the NBA, it's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: not MLB. In order for us to continue this rise,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: this is what it is. It's eighteen percent of the fighters.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Joe, Okay, Well that's what I'm saying
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I don't good points.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: First of all, let's just give the UFC its flowers,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: because without I love the kids say that these days.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Give the flowers. Yeah, good saying have your daughter started
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: using buns yet? Oh? Yeah, they use that. Yeah, I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: just found my bad buns is bad. Yeah, I didn't know.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I got a new truck. My son's like other things. Buns.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is that good? Yeah? No, but buns are
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: always like cute buns. Yeah, I know. Fucking yeah, we're young, Jamie,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah you Jamie, But what were you saying? The UFC
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: is the greatest organization in combat sports history period, and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: there's nothing even close. The product is so much better
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: than any boxing promotion. And my friends that I've brought
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: to the UFC that are boxing fans, like my friend
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Josh Dubin, he was like, the fucking productions incredible, he goes,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: It's so much more exciting than any boxing event. It's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: so much better. That is one hundred percent true. They've
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: also been a consolidated organization forever, right. I mean it
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: was a different owner. It was Bob Myrowitz back in
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: the day in ninety seven when I worked for them,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: but from twenty twenty one on. So for the last
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: twenty five fucking years, it's been Zufa, right, they sold Zufa.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Now Zufa is so sold to Ari Emmanuel Tko. But
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: the same people are running it, right, It's still DANEA. White,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: It's still all these people behind the scenes conversation with Yeah,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: it's still annek. It's still me in DC and Michael
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Bisping and all the other people that are doing commentary,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, Dominic Cruz and Paul Felder and Lara Sanko.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: It's still the team's the same. The team behind the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: scenes is the same. It's so polished. There's never a problem.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: When I show up at the UFC, everything's so smooth.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: You go in and say hi to everybody. I show
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: my badge to the fucking security people. I say hi,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: we sit down. Everything is smooth. We got to hit
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: in five minutes. Okay, great, everybody's there. The sound guys
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: on point, everything is on point. It's so easy, and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: it's like the production in the truck is so fucking good.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: They always have the right angle. Giordonald is always on
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: the case when it comes to like getting the right
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: angle for a submission or getting the right angle for
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: if I ask for something, I got it right away,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: like like I'll push the button, you know, let me
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: hear his corner. Yeah, because there it's boom. They're right
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: on it. It's they're the best, high level, they're the best.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: And you notice that when you see other promotions, it's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: like the other promotions the camera works on it is good.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: It's like they are good. It's the machine is so good,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: and it's become like the NFL, Like I know, the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: XFL exists. I've never even heard of a game. I've
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: never even heard of a game brought up, a game
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. Never. I know, it's the thing never.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: And the problem with casuals. That's the same with the PFL.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Even though the pfl's fucking got really good fighters. There's
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: really good fighters in the PFL, far right from the UFC.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, some of them are really good. Man. That
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: cat that just knocked out Hennon Ferrar, the guy who's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the heavyweight that is a Fador's protege. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the Russian cat. Bro, he's good, Bro, he's good. In
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: the UFC's fucking shallow ass heavyweight division, we could use that,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: we could use them. I'd like to show up at
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: that dude's hotel room in a fucking briefcase. Let's go dog.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, my thing with the UFC, and when you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: talk about the staff and you got to give them
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: their flowers, the only one that's figured it out.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: They're the best by the Foster organization by far, and
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: they deserve to be rich because of that. They've made
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: an incredible product. So the Fighters, though, I think your
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: product is entirely dependent on the Fighters. Now, this is
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: my position with my comedy club. So my comedy club
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: pays different than every comedy club. The Fighter, the Fighters,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: the comedians make most of the money when it comes
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to the door.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: That's how it should be. But let me ask you this, Joan.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: If it's too much, right, dude, get the fuck out
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: of it. But your is the mothership compared to the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Comedy Store, the Improverty, you guys crushing them.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: It's doing really well. I mean, the Comedy Store is
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: always going to be one of the great clubs on Earth.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: It's a legendary club. It's dependent upon who's there. The
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: difference between the way the Comedy Store does it and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: the way we do it is that we bring in
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: national headliners for the weekend. Like the weekend, it might
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: be David Tell this week is Tony Rock. Is there
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: another club that does that? Is there commstore is a
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: little different your regulars? Is there another club that does that? Sure,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: most clubs do that for the weekends, but the thing
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: is they don't have the same lineup for the weekdays.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: So the weekdays we've got Shane Gillis, Ron White, Tony
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Hinchcliff Killed, Tony's there every Monday.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: It's a different That's I'm saying. Is there anybody doing that?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Because the comics have to be My whole point is
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: whatwever you run your business. It's like, is the model
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: where you're doing it, where the comics are making the
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: majority of the money, is that a sustainable business?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: It makes money if we take it, If we take
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan out of it, and you and some dude
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: want to start a club and did the same thing,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: is that going to be profitable? No, you have to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: have the talent. But that's the difference. It's like the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: thing with the PFL versus the UFC. You have to
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: have the talent, right, And the reason why our club
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: works is because everything Look, it's pure luck. It's pure luck.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Everything had a line up. We had to hit every
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: green light. It had. COVID had to happen. The comedy
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: story had to get shut down. All the employees from
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: the comedy store had to get fired. We had to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: not be able to do stand up in La I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: had to be worried about my family, and like the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: crime and the riots, and then the COVID shit with
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: everyone's wearing a mask. I was like, this is bananas
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and then moving to Texas or just visiting Texas. But
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: you got to give yourself credit, like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: but you're also the guy that had the idea to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: do it. Most people would that trigger You didn't have
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: to do that. That is true, But it's a lot
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: of luck because it had to happen at the right time.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: It had to happen at a time in my career
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: where I had a lot of money, you know, So
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: it happened had to happen when the Spotify deal took place,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: so I had all this money, and then it all
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: had a lineup where I was already the number one
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: podcast in the world, so I could easily get people
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: become of you jump, I understand, but if they had
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: the line humble, no, no, no, it's I'm just being honest, like,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: it had to line up so I couldn't have done
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: it on my own. I had to come here, and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Ron White was already here. So Ron White's big reason,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: one of the club, and he was one of the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: main reasons why I moved. I know, because I was like,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: even if I never do comedy again, and I was
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: really wondering, if we're ever going to do comedy again,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Ron's here. I'll hang out with Ron, We'll have laughs. Yeah.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: So when I moved here, and then all of a sudden,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Tony moved here, and then Tom Segura moved here, and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Brian Simpson moved here, and Assan moved here, and Brian
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: and Derek Posted moved here, and it was like, oh shit,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: we got something cooking. And then Tim Dillon came here,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: and then it was like, oh my god. And then
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Duncan Trussell moved here. I was like, holy shit, Well
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: the movie as you're here, I understand, but they have
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: a right, but they had to do it before the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: mothership even opened, right, they all moved before the mothership
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: open Shane moved after the Mothership opened, but they all
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: came in early and trusted me, and so I was like, Okay,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: these guys, I owe them whatever they took a chance
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: with their future. I have to throw everything into this
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: and all together we'll do it. So it's our club.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: It's really our club. But it had to happen in
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: a way where I had this disposable money, I had
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: disposable income where I could do it and it wouldn't
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: hurt me. Yeah, And then I could set it up
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: in a way where the comics make so much money,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: so that way you encourage people to stay. So there's
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: so many people that are there all week long during
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the week. They don't have to go do shows other
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: places they can make money at they're home club. You're
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: doing it right.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: But I guess my example like can the UFC do that?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Because my example for you, it's like can these other
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: comic clubs do that and sustain and grow and have money.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: In They could in New York and they might be
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: able to do it in LA. So I don't think
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: you could do it in LA right now. Because the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: store is open and the store is always going to
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: be the premier club in the world. It's always legendary.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: So it's on Sunset Strip. Even though LA's falling apart,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: it's still the legendary destination for stand up comedy. It's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: one of the main reasons why I was excited to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: move to LA. It was Mecca. It was when I
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: was a beginner and an open micer. In nineteen eighty eight,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: they would talk about the store like it was Meca,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: like you had to go to the store. They still do,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: though I don't think that's ever going away. Of course.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: It's you know, the store comes in and goes in
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: cycles like it always does. It always goes in cycles,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: depending on who's in town, who's there. It's a very
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: it's all comedy clubs are dependent upon what talent is
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: in town during the weekdays. And if you don't bring
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: in talent on the week ends, that's the difference. Like,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: so the store doesn't bring in headliners for the weekend
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: like the way our club does. I told Scott Scott Shore,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, I think no, that was Peter. Sorry,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I told Peter Shore. I was like, I think you
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: guys should do that. I think you should, like, but
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: do they happen because you can still go on a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Saturday night and you see you know, yes, name will
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: But you could have those people there still as well,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Like they could also do shows with that person. And
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: you have two other rooms. You have the o R
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: and you have the room. You have three rooms in
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: one location, Like you could still have the OAR filled
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: with top talent because they don't give a fuck where
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: they're performing in the big stage of the little stage.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: In fact, most of us prefer the whole stage. The
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: war is an amazing room. But the thing is, like
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: you have to have enough talent in town, and a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: lot of people moved out of LA A lot of
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: people Joey Diaz moved out of LA Like, a lot
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: of people moved out of it. Theo moved out, a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: lot of people moved out. So the problem is you
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: would have to have enough talent there, and then you'd
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: have to have talent that was there all the time
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: like us, like we're at the club all the time.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I think, and going back to if the UC could
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: do this, like they're profiting so much now, there's no
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: reason to That's.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: That's the other issue. This is the problem.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: You want to have my idea, though you have my idea,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: and you might be like, you're out of your fucking mind,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: and it's and again I'm not anti.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: You have nothing.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: You cut my fucking wrists right now, Bubble Riley spells out,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I fucking believe that it made my entire career. Yeah,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: when that paramount deal was announced, and I'm a wild boy.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: When that paramount deal was announced, what I would have
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: done is this, and this is the issue why things
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: will never change. I would have talked to all the managers,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: all the fighters and said, we're not fighting another fight.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: They just signed a huge deal some point seven million.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: If you guys want to get your equal share, nobody's
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: agreeing to fight bout to a fight card unless we
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: get I don't know, someone's gonna figure out thirty percent.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: So it's eighteen percent right now. If we go up
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: thirty percent, which they're still gonna have profit, if they
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: agree to that, then we'll fight. But they there's no deal.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: If we don't fight, those days are over now. So
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: you miss the mark.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Now you're gonna say yeah, but they can get other
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: guys to do that. And I'm saying across the board,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: we all agree as fighters, we're not gonna fucking move
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: an inch.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: If you get fighters to agree to that, it would work.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. It'll never happen, not in a million years.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: That was my idea. Then here's the other thought that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Dana White has this thought about fighters that when they
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: get paid too much and they get rich, their careers
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: end earlier. Well, that's that's the other And he's right, yeah,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: and he's right. Well, there's Arman's Bruce Wayne, but for
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: the most part, he's right. Don't go through anybody's kind
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: of right. He's kind of right, but it does. That's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, I agree, that's on them. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: I mean he's right, but you can't protect them far
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: unless you have a bonus that you're gonna pay them
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: out when they retire, and then they're not going to
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: But the other thing, I think Sean Shelby said this,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: It might have been mcmainard. One of them was like,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: the other show we have is when guys get paid
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: a lot and then we offer fights. We're not getting
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: the fights who want to make Once they have that
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: goose Egg're like, I'm not fighting that fucking guy.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I know. But again, you can't base it off of that,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's some guys who will do it
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: and you fuck with them, but it's not reason not
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: to pay listen. It's all this is hippie talk. But
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like if I would if I was, if
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I owned the UFC, I would not feel good if
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: people didn't feel compensated correctly. This is just my feeling,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm not a good businessman. If you want to
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: be a good businessman, you got to make the most
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: money Poppers. I don't know, Joe, You've done pretty fucking well, Bubba.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: A lot of luck, a lot of luck. You're ding me.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: If you work harder than anybody else, Well, I work
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: hard when I listen, I stick with things, and I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: have a good work ethic. That is true. But that's
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: half the battle. Yeah, yeah, But I'm not like a
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: businessman in the sense of like, if I was running
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: a business like that, I wouldn't treat it the same way.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'm trying to make the most money possible.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I would say I got money, and let's just make
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: this motherfucker the greatest thing of all time and make
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: everybody feel good about it.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, I don't know the in and outs.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can run an organization like
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: that and be profitble.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, it'd be profitable, but it wouldn't
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: be as profitable. And that's the thing when you have shareholders.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: So when you have shareholders, you have an obligation to
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: your shareholders to maximize your profits.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: And and this is this is the only knock on
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: the UC I have is in order to get that
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: seven point seven billion dollar deal, you have to put
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: on whatever it.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Is, forty five fight cards a year. So like those
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: fight nights.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: So now you don't really have the talent or the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: stars to fulfill those cards. But because you made this
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: deal with Paramount, now you're getting just you know, you're
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: signing these Contender series kids who have three fights four fights.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Where ten years ago those boys ain't sniffing the UFC.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: It was so hard to get in. But now because
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: we have to fulfill those cards, you' getting a lower
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: level of talent.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, here's what's interesting. So one of the players
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: in the purchasing of the UFC, of the rights of
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: the UFC was Netflix. They're one of the players. Interesting.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: They were one of the people that were thinking about
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: doing it, so there was negotiations with them. There's negotiations
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: with ESPN, and ultimately Paramount was like this wild dark
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: horse that came around with the big money.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: And I like Paramount issues. Yeah, ads are weird, but whatever.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I love Mobland, I love Yeah, Mobland is fucking great.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Everyone's that fuck fuck yeah his audi to convinced. I
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: never wanted to Wagon. It's sick. They're so sick. It's
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: a great show. But Paramount has awesome shows, so it
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: makes sense. I already had it great perfect. I love
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: the fact there's no pay per view. But what's interesting
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: about Netflix not doing it because I think Netflix didn't
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: want the I might be talking about school, but I'll
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: just say it. I believe what I heard. Take this.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Here's a caveat is that Netflix did not want the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: small fights. They did not want fight nights. Good for them,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: they only wanted the big ones. They're that ship at.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Some of the fight nights are fucking awesome. We like
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: the degenerates. The public like, who the fuck are these
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Apex there? I love that Netflix like, what take you
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: the Apex fights? I've been planning on going to an
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Apex fight card. I'm trying to find the right one
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: just to go and watch. Let's fucking girl, I would
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: love that. I just want to go to watch because
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: they'll let you in if you come with me. Yeah,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like I here anymore. I kind of stood
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: by the fact they didn't want the volume. I love.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's how I said, which we understood from
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: the get go. Uh Ted Sarandos who I love? Bella Bajaria.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know her. We're very upfront with that. We're
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: looking for big events. So the fact that you could
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: give us one pay per view, which is just we
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: were just going to put on the platform for free
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: as long as you're a subscriber. As long as you
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: just give us that, we're in we'll pay premium for it.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: But we don't want to carry the other thirty fight nights.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: If then we don't want the bullshit. Yeah, here's the thing.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: But then where would those thirty fight nights go? That's
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: the question.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: But then then that fulfills CFL, Bellator or you fight pass?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fight pass. I could do that fight pass.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: But to again, the business side of it, the ZOOFA
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: or TK is going well. Hold on the reason we
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: get such a big nuts some point seven billion, So
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: we offer so much content, right, you guys are trying
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: to do what our game plan was fifteen years ago,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: which are just one big fight every every once a month,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: which for the fans is fucking awesome.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: It makes sense for Zoofa, and it makes it makes
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: sense for Netflix. I get it, and all of it
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: made sense. It just wasn't a fit. But what I
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: was getting at is, now it's interesting because Netflix has
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: got a lot out of money. Netflix throws some money around, right,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Netflix has a tremendous amount of subscribers, and now Netflix
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: is in the MMA game. I'm glad you brought that up.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: So this is where you talk about it. Keep going
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: darks like you and me. Keep going No, No one
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: in the real world is talking about it to me.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: But that's okay. The point is they're gonna do it,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: and just because it's on Netflix, I guarantee you millions
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: of people will watch it. I bet they'll have a
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: hard time selling them live tickets. Let's see if it's
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: sold out. It's definitely not. The tickets are eighty eight dollars.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: But this is where it gets tricky because the more
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: places fight or have to go the better because ull
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: see has no competition.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Right, it's a monopoly all good, which NFL is, NBA is.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: I have no issues with that.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Right. So if fighters, big name fighters, have a place
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: to go and can get paid, I'm all for it.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: The issue of is Netflix and getting MMA. It's like,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: my thing would be, well, what's the plan here?
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: You know, so Ronda and Geno fight this week and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: you got two four year olds fight in the main event.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: It's gonna get good numbers. But again, and you know this,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: you've been in business Netflix, They're not going to give
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: you the real numbers.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Right when you negotiate, they don't give you the real numbers.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Like they don't say you did great, They don't tell you.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, Jake Paul did four
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: hundred million people? I'm like, really did he? So they're
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: gonna say, well, Jake Paul can say that, right? Did
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Netflix say that? That's like Noflix one hundred million people?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Like that? Many people have Netflix. I don't think they
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: have that many. I made up a crazy number, but
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: it's a ton of people.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: Just the articles said that they have over three hundred million.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Subscribers so one hundred million people were so say a
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: hundred million?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so say how but so and right now?
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: You know, and I get run as being a promoter.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: She learned from Dana. She's like, we're going to destroy
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: the White House. I disagree. I don't think it does.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: But Netflix will tell you they did. Well, here's the thing,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: even if it gets really good numbers Jake Paul versus
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua George thirty three million viewers on Netflix. That's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: really good. That's really good. I don't know what the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Sean Strickland Hamzak Chamaiav numbers were. They might not have
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: been thirty three million. Maybe they were. I don't know.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: The thing about it being paramount, Paramount does not have
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: the number of subscribers that Netflix has. How many subscribers
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing I might be wrong. I think they have
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: like sixty million. How many subscribers does Paramount plus have?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: But this is what you're not taking consideration. Paramount and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: the UFC. It's only in America. So in Canada and
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: other like the Paramount in Europe, it's not a thing.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Right, So what are those views now? Right? You know,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: like when we're at in all these at paramount in
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: other countries.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think the paramounts in Europe and shit like
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: that they're watching on like sky Sports. I think out
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: there they have a different deal. Oh and then Australia
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: I think still has pay per view.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Interesting that I think you're right. I think you're right. Okay,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: seventy nine million paid subscribers, so that's a big difference
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: between it says globally half of them, the US thirty
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: five million are in the US. Are there any countries
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: where paramount is not in let's let's put that into Yeah.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: But I still think that that UFC deal is just
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: for the US.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: It's just for you, just for US, Okay, because UK
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: sky Sports. So that means there's only thirty five million
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: people that it's reaching period, So they'll never get to
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: the Jake Paul number, the Jake Paul number of the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Anfinity Joshua fight, if that's an accurate number, thirty three million,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: they're never going to get to that. But remember the
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: White House is also on CBS. That's different. How many
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: people in the CBS, how many people are watching regular TV.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: That's why maybe they might thirty more views.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my dad's crink, My dad's that's just on Channel
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: four in Denver, Colorado.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Your rabbit ears big enough. I still have regular TV, Man,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Regular TV is crazy, crazy, like some people have to
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: fucking move the turn out the signals coming in bad
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: crazy people. There's a people out there with regular TV. Yeah,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: that's wild. Where they only have the four channels, that's crazy.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: They're just getting their news from like like you know, Robots,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Fox and fuck they don't even get Fox. Fox is cable,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, regular TV. You ain't getting Jack Ship.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: They can swear on Fox, can they? I believe so,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: because if it's not cable, I think you're allowed to swear. Oh,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Fox fu Well there's a broadcast
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: version of Fox though, right, but is it regulated? If
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: it's broadcast, it is.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: That's the whole the Fox still, right, but broadcast and cable.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: So what do you mean by there's a broadcast version?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: So there's a version over the air.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: What's what's what available? What's available through the air, that's
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: what that.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: So the broadcast version meaning that you could just get
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: it with a regular antenna.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: It's like a local Fox.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, Okay, you're right, you're right, you're right. Okay,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: it came way later. I'm so old. I remember when
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Fox was just cable showing thirty one. I remember we
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: wanted to show the Simpsons and Married with Children. Yeah,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Simpsons too. Maybe it was broadcast back then. Maybe I'm wrong.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: I think I am.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: Hard to get. It wasn't the strongest of signals most.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Plays, okay, but it was always broadcast. Okay, my have
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: fucking times changed now? Because there's like you talk about
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: mob Land, there's so many dope shows. There's so many
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: good shows out there, but it's like hot for like
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: a week and then something else comes. It's too many.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: There's too much, Like I don't like there would never
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: be like Game of Thrones and Sopranos where it's like
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: the entire world shuts down. We all just kind of
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: binge it when we want and there's a new show here.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: It's not good man, true, that's fact, that's fact.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: By selling a show right now, like that I was
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: talking about my Gearhead's gone wild on tub to be
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: has fucking I think three hundred million subscribers.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: They're big, but trying to sell a show, these three
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: hundred million subscribers on TB two's fucking massive. I didn't
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: know either. I didn't know either when I first got
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: the offer. I'm like, weird, but again, trying to sell
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: a show is fucking tough. Car show tough, dude. I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: didn't know too, we had that many subscribers. Look that
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: up to make sure I've been so exaggerating.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: That's ever pasted one hundred million monthly active users.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: But I don't know how many subscribers do they have
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: to total? I know the numbers that are subscriber thing or.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: Is it like a YouTube thing we could just like
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: view it would imagine it's tiared have it says a
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: free ad supported streaming service rather than subscription based model.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: It's free, but they have subscribed and then you can
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: get the non ad paid where you pay. I think,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: oh okay, so you can just get it for free. Yeah,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: like YouTube, YouTube brand, and YouTube is probably the biggest
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: well like, they probably have the most active viewers worldwide,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: not even Yeah. Remember they tried doing like shows and
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: it just ate ship. Like you read, they're like making offers.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: I remember YouTube that. I think it's crazy. It's interesting
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: because just a regular show on YouTube can do really well,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: like mister Beast.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think YouTube read was like kind of
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: a little before that, right, and they're like, right, put
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: your shows on here, and they jumped the gun.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they jumped the gun.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Mister Beasts is like, or I'll just put my ship
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: out and everybody in.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: The world will watch. Thing about if you put your
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: ship on YouTube, there's literally an infinite number of options
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: and channels. That's the thing. And it's completely dependent on
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: what you see, Like the recommended for you is completely
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: what you're interested. Now everything's niche.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Now it's like like there's people out there we don't
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: even know and like my kids, like dad, he has
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: sixty million describers, Like what then, I know.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: You much money he's making. Yeah, it's all niche niche.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: There's that. But then there's also astroturfing. There's a lot
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: of these. Astroturfing is when you you have fake downloads,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: fake views, you have like companies that you can hire
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: and they will get you views and so but here's
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: the thing that's going to fuck you. It'll fuck you.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: But but the point is people still do it, and
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: they do it because it's you can do it right now,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: right and so what that means is like, say, if
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: you have like millions and millions of subscribers and then
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: you look at the views, the views are hundreds of
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: thousands of views. Then you look at the comments, like
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: fucking five comments. What's going on here? But it's a
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: weird thing to do because in order to make money,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: YouTube sees the back end. So if you're trying to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: make money off your show, right, you're not going to
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: make money, but it'll get bigger because of the number.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Like, so if you go to
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: like brendanschob dot com, if you did that, if you
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: have Brendan Job's YouTube channel and I looked at it,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, he's got twenty five million subscribers. Wat
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: should fucking subscribe? People do that, they'll click on it
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: and click on your views or your videos because they're
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: like missing out. Of course it definitely, I don't I'm
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: not saying that's responsible for all the views that you'll
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: get because of that, but it has an impact on
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: how people see you. You look more legitimate, and if
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: you're trying to develop sponsor deals or some sort of
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: a brand endorsement deal, like well, I've got twenty million
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: subscribers on YouTube, like oh, this guy's big. Yeah, but
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: then they're like, there's three comments. Well, there was a
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: there was scammers that were doing weird stuff in the
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: early days of podcasts where they would rig things to
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: exaggerate downloads back in the early days of audio home
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: by yeah, oh yeah. And then someone came and regulated
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: it exactly. But it's not like we're all in on it.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: No, it was someone who was running because we're all
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: kind of using the same audio thing. And I remember
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: telling Brian, I'm like, do we have thirty million fucking
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: audio thirty miil dude this month? And then Tom's like, yeah,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: I got six d I'm like, dude, we're crushing it.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: And then someone came in it was like actually, yeah,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: what it was doing was like every time someone clicked
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: on it, it would count so that like I'm talking completely,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: if they start and stop it right, they count it
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: over and over again as multiple listens. And I think
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: they do that with other things too, like so you
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: have to figure out like who the actual number of people.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: But people have been accused of making like you can
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: you could pay to get Instagram accounts, you can get followers.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: There's companies that will get you followers. I don't know
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: if it's legit or legal, but I know for a fact,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: but some people in the background, doesn't YouTube, don't they
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: try to shut that shit down. They definitely do millions
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: of bots over the weekend, and I noticed it. Sometimes
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: I'll notice it. Well I'll lose like one hundred thousand thousand. Yeah,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: but yeah, there are bots one and there's a ton
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: of them, and they catch some of them, but some
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: of them are more sophisticated in their approach and then
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: they adjust so once they realize what gets them caught.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: You could run an AI program. Yeah, so if you
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: run an AI program and you have a like if
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: you're in fucking Singapore or wherever you're at doing this,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: you could run an AI program that controls a bunch
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: of different cell phones that has a bunch of different accounts,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: and you can have them even commenting on things. And
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: you'll notice this sometimes and they'll be programmed to comment
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: positive or negative or and it seems like a fucking person, man,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: But you'll see that there's like a bunch of numbers
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: after a couple of letters or a name like Bob
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: five six seven two five four, and then you see like, god,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think Bob's a person. And then you go
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: to Bob's account and like, there's almost no chance that
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Bob's a person. I Meanwhile, Bob's posting all the time
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: and making comments on things all the time, and most
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: likely what this is is paid engagement. So it's not
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: just paid views. But because of AI and because of
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: programs you could run, there's the potential for paid engagement.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, me and she were talking about before you got here,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: is something I don't know that you're aware of this, Joe.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: The streamers paying for the next level of what you're describing.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: So it's not AI doing it. Have you heard of
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: clippers they're paying for There's thousands of people that are
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: just sitting around at home making a shipload of money,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: a ton of money, and they're posting because you'll think certain.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: People are bigger than they are, like man, I see
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: him everywhere. It's like that's all by design, and you
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: can pay for that too. So that's probably legal, right,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: So no, I mean.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: Why would it should it be?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Right? I mean, it all depends on what are you
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? Are you getting money? From it.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Are you getting advertising revenue from you?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: To your point, it's it's it's a false sense of
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: fame because to your point with arm And it's like, yeah,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: we know him in the and he's getting views online.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: But does that equal actual fans?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: I think it reinforces the fans that already love them. Yes,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: and a few people are going to hop on board.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: But as far as like your general casual that will
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: they're not tune in for a UFC fight card. No,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: not necessarily.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: But it's also a younger demo, right, like if you
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: watched the stream, you're older than me.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Now. I had to talk with a streaming company the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, do what wait, you want me to seven
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: days a week turn on the camera to hear my
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: just like breakfast and ship, like hanging out with my family.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Well, the streaming thing is nuts where people just live online.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: First of all, how bad is that for your back
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: and you're just ranting and raving and talking online all day?
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Can't be good. But then like, you know, we love Rampage, Rampage.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Does it making stupid money? Yeah? But you know it's
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: a good move for Rampage. You know he's not fighting anymore. Yeah,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: it's good. Move makes sense, and he's got the Jackson
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: podcast that's doing well. It's good for him to diversify,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: do a bunch of different out there. And he's also
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: got a great personality, so he's perfect. He's perfect for it,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: perfect for that. But some people, you know, it ain't
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: the thing, shouldn't be doing that.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: But streaming is like the biggest thing, yeah, Jamie.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also you know it's also it's like, what are
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: you doing with your life? I got things to do.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: I get said, front of the gamera for five hours
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: a day. I don't understand understand how anybody does it.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: But also is it that entertaining, Like my life's not
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: fucking lit talking about shit on camera and then they
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: watch a bunch of things and react to things. There's
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of that, like for a lot of them,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Like for our channel, there was a lot of people
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: that were making a living just going on Twitch and
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: these other channels, these other streaming things, streaming my show
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: and commenting on it, like reaction videos. Yeah, get mad
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: about things about that and doing something. But they were
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: doing all that through the they would play the whole
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: show out. Oh yeah, it's illegal. Well, it was very shady.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: It was very weird because they were commenting on it.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: But it was like, your entire content was based on
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: my content and your reaction to my content. But you know,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: it's weird. You know, you're dunking on me or you're
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: pumping me up or whatever you're doing. It's it's there
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: was a lot of that going on. And so then
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are watching, whether it's
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Mister Show and commenting on that or other shows are
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: coming on that. So they're watching stuff online. Someone will
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: send them a video of a guy getting the street fight.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: They comment on that, Yeah, and then their action videos
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: and they're interacting with all these people that are in
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: the they're caking money off of there, and they're talking
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: to these people that are in the comments. It's like weird.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: First of all, if you think that social media is
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: bad for your mental health. Oh my god, dude, Yes,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: yesterday I was driving down Uh. I dropped my kids
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: off and I was going somewhere. I was going this, uh,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: this car shop. My truck's in the shop, and I
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: was I was driving my father in law's car and
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: I see a high school bus. Lake Travis High School
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: and I live right by Lake Travis. I see a
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Lake Travis High School bus pull up. I just look
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: over every single kid staring at this on their phone.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Ye not talking to each other, not saying it bummed
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: me out so fucking bad.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: Do you know the fun we used to have on
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: that bus? And no one's no one's talking to each other.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: The bus is silent. I'm like, God, you guys are
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: doing it wrong.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not want to jumps. Hey, listen, I know
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: the old dude. You guys are fucking up right now.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: Well you're right, But it is also where human beings
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: are headed. We're headed into this weird world of the
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: digital world, and this is the first steps. These are
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: the first steps we're taking by staring into a phone
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: all day. But we know it's not good. Oh yeah,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: no it's so we're just going to continue to go
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: down this ship road. You don't think there's anything we
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: can do, Nope, nope. People are addicted. They're one hundred
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: percent addicted to their phone, don't. I don't see anything changing.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: I think, if anything, it's going to get more invasive.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: And then it's probably the I mean, who knows, just
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: guessing what the next technology is going to be. But
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: as this technology moves forward, it's going to get more invasive,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: it's going to get more You're going to interact with
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: more people through whatever the fuck it is. However they're
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: going to do it, whether it's going to be some
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: new tech that lets you communicate with people with a
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: headset and you're reading each other's minds, or whether you're
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: hanging out together in augmented reality and anybody's like manandemic.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: They're not going to. No, one's going to. They're gonna
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: keep doing too much money. No, it's just everyone's addicted
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: and everyone uses it for too many things. It's also
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: primary source of news and information. I get all my
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: ideas about like how the world is working from social media,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: not not social media commentary, but social media stories. Well
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: some of the posts like this is going on in Iran,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: this is going on here. I get it off social media.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: I get it off X. But you have to pick
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: and choose and what you pay attention to, right, and
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: you got to find people that are not full of
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: shit and not click engagement because there's a lot of
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: click a lot of just clickbait bullshit. Jordy is yeah,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of that, but you also find breaking news,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: and you also find things that you wouldn't know about,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: you know, like certain stories and certain things that are
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: happening in the news, and certain certain really crazy stories
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: that are like how am I not hearing about this?
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: This is? This should be fucking huge. I think it's
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, uh, and I know we have to
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: use it.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: You don't think it's gonna be kind of like cigarettes,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: like in sixties where everyone was doing it and then
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: eventually the parents of those kids. I'm sorry that the
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: children of those parents go, what the fuck this? If
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: it was a substance, I would agree. But the problem
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: it is addictive. But the problem is it's all facets
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: of your life. It is your calendar, it is your email,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: It is how you take pictures and all your memories.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: It is, uh, how you interact with a lot of people.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people I don't even have their
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: phone numbers. I just they DM me and I DM them.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I have friendships with people that are just
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: DM So it's, uh, there's that. But that's basically the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: problem is that it's it's a giant part of the
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: world now where cigarettes.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: Never really were. We're relying on it. Yeah, you could.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: There was a bunch of people who didn't smokes, even
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: when people smoked cigarettes. Like, let's look this up. Throw
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: this into perplexity, young Jamie. Please, during the height of
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: smoking in the United States, what percentage of adults smoked
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Let's guess. God, back in the back in the day,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: whenever it was the nuttiest, like in the fifties or whatever.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I think it was fifty percent. That'd be hive right,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: crazy high, thirty crazy d I was thinking like thirty three,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: but it might be higher because those old days, man,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: everybody had a cigarette in their hand. Johnny Carson, Joe everyone. Yeah,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: people walking down the street, smoke on planes, smoke on buses,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: smoke on trains. Ye, everybody who's walking down the street smoking.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: But what percentage of those people were doing it? Okay,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: forty to forty five? Wow. In the mid nineteen sixty
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: the height of cigarette use in the US, roughly forty
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: to forty five percent of adults smoked, which works out
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: to the order of eighty to ninety million adults. Wow. Shit,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: that's incredible, that's incredible. American Lung Association Summary notes that
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: adults smoking has fallen to around from around forty to
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: forty three percent in nineteen sixty five to about eleven
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: to twelve percent and twenty twenty too. I think it's back.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: I think people are really I feel like it's lower.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: I think people were smoking. I see it a lot now.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: Outlawed it in San Francisco. Outside.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious, gay, that's that's San Francisco. Okay, that makes
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: sense San Francisco. Well, you hear what they're doing in
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: the UK. If you were born before or after a
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: certain date, you can't buy cigarettes when you turn twenty one,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: just to stop people from exactly, So people that were
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: born in like fucking whatever year, whatever year they said
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: it at when they turned twenty one, they will not
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: be able to buy cigarettes. But you will be able
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: to buy cigarettes because you were born at a different time.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: They say, Oh, you're retarded, you don't know any better
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: than you could, so stupid. It's there. It's communism, it's socialist.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Didn't they just run out the fucking with it, Prime Minister?
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Or the fuck they came still there? I thought they
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: ran them out there, bringing somebody else in. They probably
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: want to, but what happened. Yeah, But the point is
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: it's like that kind of woke socialism. It's like there,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: it's the government telling you what to do. When I
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: say communism, I don't mean like they take all your money,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: because they'll definitely do that eventually too. But what they
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: do is they tell you what you can say, correct,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: they tell you what you can do, They tell you
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: what medications you have to take. It's all socialized medicine.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: They tell you what to do and what to say
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: and how to think. And they're going to protect you.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Protecting someone from cigarettes while you're selling them alcohol is
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: fucking bananas. So dumb, it's bananas. It's dumb. But England's
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: lost their way identity. Well, they're arresting people like crazy
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: for posting on social media about the immigration crisis, primarily
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: also other things, but criticizing the government. And now they
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: threw away jury trials for those things. So now it's
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: a judge and so you don't even get people like you,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: your peers to sit there and go, no, this fucking
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: guy shouldn't go to jail. His daughter got attacked by
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: some immigrants and he said some wild shit about immigrants,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: and no he shouldn't be in jail for that. If
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: you don't like, what's the agenda? Just to ruin just
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: ruin the control, so shrink you down to fifteen minute
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: cities that they're implementing that in part of the UK.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: The other thing is a digital credit system, right, so
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: a digital a digital credit score, a social score, and
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: some sort of centralized digital currency, which I think we're
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: probably they're probably going to try to move us all
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: into eventually. But if they can attach your social credit
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: score with this digital currency, then you have what they
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: have in China. So in China, if you fuck up
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: and you do something stupid, guess what, fuck face, you
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: can't buy a plane ticket. Wid yeah, you you can't
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: get a loan, you can't get and it keeps people
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: in line and then the government can do its job
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: without protests. Can I piss real? Correct that pisto fucking
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back, folks. Ah, it was so much better.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: I know, it's hard to concentrate when you have to
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: piss it. Well, you were talking. I was like, man,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: I Pats, what were we talking about? Talk about your show?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: So cigar brother, Yeah, dude, last time I spoke. Last
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: time I smoke it. I smoked it backwards. I got
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: roasted so hard online.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: I know I didn't notice. I didn't notice, but maybe
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: I just smoke them backwards from now on, switch it up.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: It is funny, though, but it's really the same. It's
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: just where the label is. What are these I'm a rebel?
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: Smoke it backwards? You are a rebel? Mm, here's the clipper.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: You know how this works? Make sure you clip the
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: right spot. That one there you go? Yeah that this
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: this cigar is different because it's not a torpedo like
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: the other one. So the other one you could get
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: more confused because both ends were pointy. Do you know
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: how to do that? Yeah? Do you need help? Now?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I got a big you know, dude, you know me cigars?
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: I smoked only in here? Oh you light it? That's right.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: M So your show, so your show is on to
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: be to be hey, so light this part? Yeah? Well no,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: but this part which yeah, like this part it's fucking
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: dude's tricky, right, No? No, like just retarded? Like, yeah,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: light the part that you didn't cut. What is it called?
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: What's your show called? Garry Head's Gone Wild? Oh that's right,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: just like Girls Gone Wild? Same text and everything. Is
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: that a problem? No? Hell no, that guy's I think
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: in fucking on the lamb in Mexico. I think we're good,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: is he really? I think so? Either way, we're good.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Didn't he get like kidnapped and they hear some ship? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: they turned out pretty sad for him. It's a card.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's shipped where we would be doing anyways,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: you know. And then they wanted to make a TV
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: show out of it. So like I went to Calvo
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: Calvo Vipers, he stared the ship out of me. Calvo
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: Vipers went to the biggest Porsche collection in Austin. I'm
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: obsessed with Safari Porsches.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Man, Oh, you like those off road ones?
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: I think Russell makes them. Russell I forget the exact thing,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: but Russell doesn't. I don't know what the fuck it
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: is when it's an off.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: Road like that? Uh, that just that vibe. I don't
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: know what it is, dude. I fucking love them. Man,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Why do you love off road one? I don't know.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Is there a dirt track where you could take a
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Porsche off road car too? Oh?
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sure where I bet? I bet, especially in California.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: Like Johnson Valley and all that show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: but out here, there's there's place out here.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: People have been hit me up about. Right, But when
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: you take when you go off roading, generally you're going
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: off roading with a truck where you can bounce over
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: rocks and ship. You can't really do that in an
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: off road Porsche. That's like more for those crazy mountain roads.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: They're in the dirt. Yeah, that's a your car Russell
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: bill fab Ooh, that's dope. Look dude, some dad had
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: one at the base of nine nine three. Yeah, oh wow,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: So they took a nine ninety three and ooh that's
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: pretty It's my favorite thing in the world. I don't
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: know why. Look at the wheelwlls. That's crazy. Wow. Perfect
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: daily driver too, don't have to real you know. Have
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: a fucking problem with those extra front headlights that they
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: stick on the hood. I do not like them. I
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: think it fucks up the lines of the car. Agreed,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: you could because you could put those on that front there.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Just take them on the body. Take a night in
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: the dark. Fuck up, you ain't really off road. I
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: mean you're off roading, but you're not in the woods.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: Oh Joe, don't get twisted night time. Like all my trucks,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: I have that ramp twenty five hundred avy. That thing's
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: never seen the dirt, right, But that's different. That looks
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: fine with the extra lights on it. And yeah, but Pia,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's like whenever I see those
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: old nine to elevens, like the nineteen seventy two's and
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: they have those extra your headlights on the hood, I'm like, ew, yeah,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: what are you doing. You're ruining the lines one of
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: the most beautiful creations, the bats out of fake tits,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? No, it's like extra fake tits.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: It's like you've got two tits on your fucking yeah,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: you get some fucking collar bone tits, Like, get those
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: out of there. They don't belong there. More is not
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: always better. And the shape of a Porsche, especially those
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: long nose Porsches, Oh, it's so beautiful. And when you
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: have dumb ass fucking headlights on the hood, like, get
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: it's just not meant to be. Yeah, get out of here.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I like different ship.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: I don't like I agree with those that those those
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: headlights do fuck up the lines, but like, uh, the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: thing I'm I'm just in a different ship. Like I
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: like when they swap the L s's in the Porsches too.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's dope. Yeah, just the sound, yeah that chop.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't know, it's ship like that. Man,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: I like those. A lot of people think that's heretics.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: That's like, oh my god, what you should be go
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: to jail for that? Oh dude, I brought her cooled
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: LS engine and a Porsche.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: This guy's like he's the head guy for Porsche driving
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: and he's driving around and I go, man, you ever.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: You ever dreven one of those LS Porsches? And he
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: was like what the fuck did I say? And I'm like,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: you don't get down with He's like fuck no, I'm like, yeah,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: those are gay, it's so gay awesome. Yeah, I just
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: like different ship man. Yeah. Rutledge Wood had one of those.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: He had one of those what's the fucking Japanese cat
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: that does the y bodies? Oh I know you're talking
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: about I saw w B Yes, yeah, yeah, he had
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: one of those with an LS in it. It's pretty sick,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: and there's there's companies that do that. Yeah, yeah, they're sick.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: And it sounds incredible. It sounds like an American muscle car,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: but yet it's in a car that's like two thousand pounds.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: Dude, And all I do is search Facebook Marketplace for
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: rs swat Porsches. God, you can get some good deals
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: because no one really wants them.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: You're crazy because everybody wants the air cool because the
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: air coold has that raspy they are the best. Is great.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: It's a wild sound. That air cooled sound is a wild.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: So as I'm getting older too, it's like, uh, you know,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: I've had trucks with fourteen hundred horsepower.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: I have had cars with eleven hundred horsepower. And then
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: if you just get an old school Porsche air cooled
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: with two hundred and fifty horse power manually, it's all
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: you need. Dude. They're so fun. As you get older,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, why am I chasing this fucking horsepower? Yeah,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: because it's just about driving enjoyment. It's not about You're
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: not racing it. No, you know you're not on a track.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Oh dude. I knew I had issues when I was
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: driving my kid to his fucking baseball game and my
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: car was running hot. My X fourteen hundred horsepower is
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: running hot. I converted to twin turbo healcat engine. It's
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: like fourteen hundred. It's running on.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: Eighty five fuel. There's no e eighty five out there.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of fucking like dripping springs. I
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: had to pull over on the side of the road
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: because it's the engine was smoking, and I just went,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: what the fuck am I doing?
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Man? Who am I doing this for? It's not like
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: I'm taking it to the track. Who am I doing
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: this for? Well, Hennessy has a thousand and you can
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: drive it everywhere. Yeah, that's probably the way to do it.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Fantasy TRX, the others, Raptor.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: I almost bought one of those, and then I got
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: that av Ram and I linked up with diesel Are
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: and we're doing a Randy's transmission. I get a freaking stealth,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: bigger turbo on their fast fuel system.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: Oh bro pants. Yeah, I don't know if you're in
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: that stuff, but I'm picking it up today. It's finally done. Dude.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: That sounds fun. Oh dude, I can't fucking wait. That
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: sounds fun. Yeah. So the idea is you just driving around,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: going to different places, having people do different things with cars. Yeah,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: like check out what people are doing. Yeah, different mods
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: are doing. Yeah. And it's like that old school like
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: car shows who we grew up on, Like you'll throw
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: up facts about porschas about the car, just pop up
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: with that stuff. And that's like our boys Like Gordon
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Ryan was on there with his TRX. He's like one
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand miles on it. That's it, really, dude.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: That thing so busted up, but he just drives it
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: every day. He off roads it. He just we go
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: in his car. I'm like, dude, I said, no, go,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the same thing I tell everybody
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: when I get in the car with them. I know
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: it's for TV. I don't need to show off. Nobody's
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: trying to get hurt. He's like, I got you, man,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: and was just fucking ripping this thing.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: Dude. I'm like, I flip one of these things. Man.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: It ain't fun, Bud, it ain't fun. But it's uh yeah,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: just shit. We like, you know, and it's as like
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: you want to do a TV show with the I'm like, hey,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: let's ride man. It's interesting how much that's a male thing.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: There are women that are into cars but I don't
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: know any women. I mean, I'm sure they're out there,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: but I don't know any women that are into cars
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: to where we're in the cars. No, No, some of them,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: some of them like cars. They're into some But like
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: for me, it's like that is one of the one
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: things about having some money that is worth it. Like
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: I always tell people, having a nice house is great.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: It is great. There's definitely nothing wrong with having a
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: nice house. But after a while, it just becomes your house. Yes,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: And if you're in a humble house that has a
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: nice kitchen and a big TV and a couch and
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: a nice bed to sleep on, you're set. You're kind
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: of sat. Yeah. Like the difference in the way you
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: feel when you're home versus a knife nice house is
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: not much different. The difference in driving a nice car
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: is like you are taking a ride to work. You
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: are at Disneyland. Yes, you would wait in line to
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: get in that car, and you're boom boom when you're
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: fucking shifting your own gears and who it's fun and
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: the shit you have. Dude, I lived through you because
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously we're in different tax brackets. You know,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: I gotta do my thing on Facebook marketplace and shit,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: I picked up tires the other day. Guy goes, holy shit,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: brind shop by tiers of Facebook marketplace. Go yeah, dude,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: who doesn't want to fucking deal man? Put those in
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: the back for me, dude. But uh, yeah, you got
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: one of those por I think your gun through Porsche. Yes,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: And you took a picture and you're like, dude, I'll
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: just sit in my grudge and stare at him, Like, dude,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: I've never I do a stare at Sometimes sit in
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: the garage and look at it. Oh, it's a fucking
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: piece of art, man. Yeah, all carbon fiber. Yeah, dude.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: Something when I when I see like that, that that
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: that type of porch, like the gunter work, or I'll
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: see a certain car, I'm just like, I can't even
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: describe the It's like, fuck, dude, that is so sick. Yeah.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: Do you see the gun that works made a twin
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: turbo slant nose. I sent it to Peter and Nam
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: sent it to me to owner of the company, sent
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: it to me. Yeah, I bought it off them. I
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: bought one off them. Not that, not the slant nose.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: If you're doing with like, kiss my service out of it. No, No,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: I do with Peter. He's awesome, but that's it. That
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: car is insane. And they raced that one against a
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: GG three RS and it buried it buried three RS
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: buried it. Yeah, they did some rolling race like from
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: thirty miles an hour and literally it just shot ahead
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: like the other car was sixty seven horse fine, it's nothing.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: It weighs nothing. What is it? WHEG please search? What
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: does the the new the slant nose gun to works
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: way because they're carbon fiber on their carbon fiber two
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: thousand something Yeah, yeah, I bet it's about two thy
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: four hundred pounds twenty seven so it's close. But the
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: engine is probably super heavy. Well I don't know if
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: it's super heavy, but there's a lot of jazz in there.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: But what engine is it the I think it's a
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: Leader twin turbo flat six. Yeah, and it's air cooled,
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: which is so nuts. A thousand horsepower flat six air
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: cooled engine is crazy, brother, And people everyone like you
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: talked to anyone like y'all want a thousand horse power
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: You think you want a thousand horse packer.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: Now, it's not like your ZRX zero one X. It's
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: not like that, like if you buy it, or like
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: at my Demon one seventy, if you get in the.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Fact from the factory, you're good.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: When you have a TRX or your Corvette or you know,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: I've had other trucks in my my Ford lighting. If
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: you're reaching a thousand horse fireer, Buddy, you think you
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: want those problems? You do not, right, It's a fucking nightmare.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: And then every week I was in the shop call
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: them buddy doing something. I'm like, this is exhaustible.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: Well this won't be like that. Like the gun to
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: work ones are reliable. I'm never in strolling. Oh those
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: are great, but the question is does that have any
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: traction control? Hopefully not? Like Jamie, could you please look
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: up whether or not these new gun to works Porsches
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: have traction control? How they can do that? Now I
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: know they can do it. There's like a computer thing
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: that you could buy. The Gunter's in California. Where are
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: they at? I believe? So, yeah, you should connect me
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: with him because I'd love do an episode with him.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: A wooden shift noob pays trip to the Porsches motorsports
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: carriage Modern electronics like Motorsports grade abs and traction control.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's good. It's nice that it has
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: a BS too. That's dope. You're gonna need it, you're going, yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: But see if you can find the race between the
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: GT three RS and the slant nose bro it is
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: how last, it's crazy and the sound it makes is
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Orga's make. It's I can't imagine how much that thing
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: is wonderful. Oh it's got to be a million dollars. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: Here's my problem with Porsche is even twenty years ago
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: when I forgot my very first car, I bought when
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: I had money I got from podcasts, say is fifteen
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: years ago, I about just your base nine to eleven,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: went to the Porsche dealer about a base nine eleven.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: I could afford it. It was I don't know, eighty grand.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: Now Porsche has become it's almost like what Ferrari was
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: ten years ago, where just the base Porsche is so expensive. Man,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: it's pricing out their markets. So now it's become and
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: we've been on Porsch for how long, Like we've always
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: talked about hour forever, it's our shit.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: Watch this. Oh my god, that's top gier. Oh, it's
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: top gear. Great, great, great channel. Yes, so these guys
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: that they do a rolling star, I guess they did
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: a rolling start because they didn't want to dump the
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: clutch on this mill dollar car. That way, Watch this
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: when they get to thirty look that interior, dude, watch
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: this go. It's not even fucking close. It's not even close.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: It's not even close. That's it insane. And the GT
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: three RS is a fast, motherfucking car. But this was
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: not his car obviously, this is, you know, someone else's
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: car that they're letting him test. And so whoever bought
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: that car and spend a million dollars? How much did
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: they cost? One point two million dollars? Yeah? That again,
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: that's my only issue with porch. I was because if
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: you want a GT three r S, they're so expensive. Man. Man,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, people flip them. A lot of people
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: flip because they're really hard to get. Yeah. Yeah, it's
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: just it's just it's tough.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: Back in the day, you could, I even if you're
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: a porch, you could start somewhere and you'd be okay.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: And now it's almost like Fario, it's unattainable for a
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: lot of people.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: You know what a lot of people are doing six
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: what's four dollars more? That car is one is crazy
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: worth every penny. If you got that loot, if you
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: got that loop, please buy it. One of the things
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: that people are doing is taking that lighter weight Porsche
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: nine to eleven t you know the tea, and they're
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: taking that and juicing it up to like seven hundred
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: plus horse power and you know, putting some mods on it.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: Now you're talking about language, Yeah, because you can do
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: that for way less than it would cost you to
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: buy a twin turbo and you're getting the same kind
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: of speed, but you're also getting rear wheel dry and
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: you can get them for a pretty pretty I don't
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: want to say cheap, but cheaper cheaper.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: It's so tough man to get some of those, like
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: the GT three RS's you gotta be allocated or it's
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty over markup.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: Like it's tough these days in.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: The Porsche business. They're they're crushing it. It's good for them,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: but again for like my kids, hopefully they're fortunate enough
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: for making good money, but it's gonna be really tough
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: to get in a Porscheman. It's just the different that
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: has become the marquee car, when back in the day
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: it wasn't that.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: It wasn't no, you know, it used to be much
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: more affordable. It was the more affordable supercar and a
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: daily driving supercar. But you know, the market and it's
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: also things change, right because now everything is twin turbo.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: They're all twin turbo. Unless you buy a GG three
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: they're twin turbo. Yep. Yeah, you know I think too.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: One of the reasons I went away from it exotic
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: because I mean, you know, I even modeed my GT
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: two RS like I'm an idiot, but it loses value
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: in them.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: So what do you mod them? When you mode them?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: Fucks them up? And I just can't leave anything alone.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: So that's why I went so heavy an American ship
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: because you know, the C six is all all all
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: the American stuff. You can mod the fuck out of
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: the and there's a market there not losing your ass,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: and they're cheaper to mod, like when I would mod
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: a Ferrari buddy exhaust whatever the fuck turbos if you
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: want to do a tune, it's a fucking nightmare man nightmoah.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it's all to me, it's all about enjoyment, right,
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: and so like what do you what do you? What
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: are you getting out of it if you're not like
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: racing it and trying to go around corners, sideways and
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: fucking correcting and you're not really doing that with most cars,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: you're just enjoying it when you're driving it. And for me,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: I love the feel of a V eight like I
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: have one of those Shelby super Snakes. Yeah it's a
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: six speed. Did you get the super Snake car? It
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: hasn't got it yet, that's on the way we I
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: fucking love that car because it's a modern muscle car.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: Driving it is like driving an old school muscle car,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: but it's all modern and perfect starts every time, interior
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: is great, and it's just the fun of just driving
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: normal speed, just normal speed, just driving to work normally,
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: not speeding. Just you feel like you're doing something fun.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: And do you get that same excitement in your ZR
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: one X. No, No, it's not the same. The ZR
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: one x is on another planet. It's it's a spaceship.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it's the most capable car I've ever driven
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: by far, Like when I took the ZR one around
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: the racetrack. We drove it around Coda. I was like,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: this thing is crazy crazy. It's so fast and it
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: handles so well and it gives you so much confidence.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: But it's different when you're not you're not shifting your
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: own gears, you're not using the clutch. It's all about that.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: The driving experience is about engagement, and if you're not
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: using a manual, you're missing you're gonna have fun. Don't
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: get me wrong. You get a Corvette, you're gonna have
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of great car, but shifting your own you know,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: they finally started making a gear a manual transmission for
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: the C eight. Really yeah, so it's not the Grand
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: Sport coming in a manual. I don't think it's going
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: to be offered by Corvette. I don't know if they
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: are in the future, but you can buy one now.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: So see what the company is that does that. But
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: it's a famous transmission company that's making a C eight
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: manual transmission. And everybody saw they're.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, because that's the only knock I've heard on
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: like actual car guys with x Ago, fast as fuck.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: It's great, but it's kind of doing it for you.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: Like the drive's different, like it's so it's a spaceship.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: It's space It's a spaceship. Your Luke Skywalker does not
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: offer a manual transit. Tremic Okay, Tremick has developed a
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: six speed manual that fits a C eight GM considers
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: it not real for production. Doesn't mean but Tremic makes
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: they make it. Yeah, tryday selling it. Is Tremiic not
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: selling it? Or did they make it just for funzies?
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: Because Tremick made the transmission on my supers. They make
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: the best transmissions. Tremick's new six speed manual Transactional opens
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: the door from manual swap vets and other creations. So
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: you can do it. This is what I would do.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: What I would do is get a Zeo six and
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: put a fucking manual in it. Now we're cooking. It's good,
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: fucking go. Now you have literally the ultimate Corvette. I
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: get that ZO six and that old No word yet
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: on price, timeline or who's gonna cook up the software
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: to tell the corvette to cooperate with a three pedal transmission.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: That is the problem, because you're gonna have to end
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: the ECU.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big problem, Like the biggest problem I've
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: had is with the ECU. People don't realize, you know,
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: the guys who do all the mods they do. But
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: it's like, I got a twenty twenty four RAM and
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: right away I'm like, right, what mods am I gonna do?
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to Randy's transmission banks. I'm talking my boys
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: a Diesel r and They're like, you got a twenty
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: twenty four. I'm like, yeah, what's up, low Miles man?
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: Like I fucked up? Like why, Like, because twenty twenty
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: four and up, there's no way to unlock that ECU
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: like you have. We have to find an ECU from
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: a twenty twenty two or earlier. And I'm like, okay,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: those can't be expensive. Oh they're blood diamonds because every
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: because everybody wants that. You're looking at seven grand from
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: unlocked ECU just and that's just the ECU. That's not
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: add any power. That's just to get it so you
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: can add the power.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's crazy. And theseel are they were like, dude,
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: we have one. I'm like, no fucking way. Well how
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: about this new law that they just passed where your
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: car is going to monitor you and then they're going
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: to have a kill switch in your car, so to
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: keep people from drinking and driving, or if maybe they
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: don't like what Brendan Shaw posted on Twitter, they just
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: fucking shut your car down. I think that's even better
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: reason to buy old shit. Yeah, a lot of reason
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: to buy old shit. Put that please into perplexity and
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: ask them when this law is being passed and what
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: the law entails, because I've been hearing a lot of
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: different versions of it. I want to know what he's
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: going to pass. Let's past nationwide and Thomas Massey voted
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: against it, and I think Fetterman might have voted against
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: it too. I'm not sure real federal mandate tie to
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Model your cars. It's about impaired driving detection. Yeah,
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: but this is how it starts. The problem is if
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: it has a kill switch. Ask ask if it has
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: a kill switch. If that's part of it, I mean
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: it probably is going to be in here, right, Okay.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: Why people call it kill switch because the system may
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: be able to prevent the engine from starting or shut
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: down performance if it decides you're impaired. So that's kill switch.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: So that is great if you're preventing someone from drinking
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: and driving. That is not great if you are Nick
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: fuent Does and you're in your car and you're you know,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: but that's the trojan horse like they get you in
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: with that. It's for safety, That's the thing. May is
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: a keyword in there, may be able to Well. The
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: thing about that is I think they already have that
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: with the Corvette. I think with on Star if someone
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: steals your car, right, so that's a security if you
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: have a Corvette and Brendan Chob is running from the
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: law and you're trying to get to Canada. But can't
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: they do that with your Tesla's Uh, that's problem. I
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: mean it's a computer to a computer. Of course they
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: probably can do that. I'm really bummed out the Tesla
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: has canceled the model s. Jamie and I were just
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: talking about it before the show. They could all go
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: away and I won't give two fucks. I know it's
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: your boy, but I just don't care. Do your thing
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: it all the time. I love it. With all the
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: cars you have, I love It's the one thing I'm like,
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: I love it. Listen. I love the eight So look,
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: I drove my Raptor here, you know, as bad as.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: A fanboy would say, that's just gonna be replaced by
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 3: that roadster that they haven't shown yet.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but the Roaster is a two seater. My
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: car is a four seater, four door car that goes
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: zero to sixty and under two seconds. Well, why would
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: they get rid of it. I've never had four because
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: they're in my car. You never would.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: I've never had four people in my car.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: You haven't. But like so, like the other day, I
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: had to pick up my daughter because she was she
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: was being driven and the car they were driving got
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: a flat and I was on my way home at
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: the exact same time, and I picked her up and
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: her friend. Yespe so I had three friends in the backseat,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: one on the front. Yeah, I got everybody in my car,
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: no problem. I like having a four door. I have
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: a family. I know you're a single guy, Like for you,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: a roadster would be fine.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 3: That's just a just a you know, not for you.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 3: It's a small little car. Anyway, I think the ex
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 3: is pretty dope too. They also cancel the x I.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: The ax is dope. Actually, Tiffany hattish One had one,
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: and she showed that they can dance in the park, Like,
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: this is crazy. This is crazy. I only do four.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: I don't have anything two door anymore because kiddos like
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: I just try to create the most badass dad wep
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: I can.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to have four doors. Well, I mean
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: I have two door cars, but I always have to
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: have a sedan. I like a sedan. Your kids are
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: older than too. If I didn't have a Tesla and
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: I have a sedan, what I would get is the Cadillac,
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: the CTVA Black Wing Let's preach. And you can get
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: a manual. You can get the new one. The F
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: one is only in manuals. The highest horse power six
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five. I don't know why I couldn't
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: say that word, six hundred and eighty five horse I
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: know you do. We both suffer from marb amount brother
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: six hundred and eighty five horse power. And it's only manual,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: But take my fucking mind. I want it automatic, I
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: think so. If it's that, yeah, manual sounds fun. But
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: if you're driving all the time, especially where you know,
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: if you're live in a way, yeah yeah, depending on
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: where you're living, Yeah, Jamie, that could be you. But
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: like we were just in New Jersey, Bro, that's you.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 3: James, I'm not saying it's a bad car. I'm just
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: like it's I'm gonna drive it ten miles a day.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: He doesn't. Yeah, it's some ten miles. It's dude. The
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: feeling in that car with the torque and the sound
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: of the engine.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: Go anywhere on third listen, give me some.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: Fucking volume in this car. Yeah, well, Jamie's not really
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: a car guy.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: Very very drive it to the golf course, but like, yeah,
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 3: that's once a week much.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: The sound carbon around it. Drive drives, drive it. Let's
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: go to that. Why why would they do this to me?
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: Would you have a video of this and not have
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: you want to sell cars for me? Please? Here it is?
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: Could just just just click that though. That's the black there,
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my dig Joe's God and we can spice that up, Jamie,
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: he said it to me for a day, Bubba. That's fine.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: The way it comes from the factory is fine. I
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: got this. I know you get it really loud, but
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: the thing is just that alone. There we go, come on, dog?
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah all right, I.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: Mean yeah, yes, dude, you don't understand. I feel. Oh
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: that's a cammed up one. That one's nuts. That's what
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: you want? Oh, there's a lot of mods. Dudes jack
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: those up above thousand all the time.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 3: That's gonna get robbed out here, then, no.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: Buba, Come on, where's you wanted to get them? By?
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 3: Craw I don't drive anywhere.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: Where's he going come live in a nice place? Are
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: you buying cracks? You got covered parking? You don't need it,
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: but it's fun.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 3: I just think of gone sixty seconds. When you've got
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: a dope car. People know you've got a dope car,
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 3: and you're seeing driving that dope car. They're gonna follow
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 3: you in that dope with our friend. You got followed.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with you too?
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna happen. He's in Dallas, fucking dope testla.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: He's in Dallas buying tacos at three in the morning.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 3: Million Teslas all over the road.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: I drive, and he's got a Ferrari. I drive. I've
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: never had any issues, especially out here. You can catch
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: an issue every now and then. But the thing about
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: Texas is everybody's armed. Like you can't just roll up
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: on someone and try to take their car. You're risking
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: your fucking life.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 3: It happened on Fifth Street, a block away from the
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 3: club brought too long ago.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right in front of people get carjacked in every city,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: that's fact. Havn't tard now where I come on to this,
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: come out over to the burbs, dude. So you think
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: if you have, like when of them cyber truck, so
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: supposedly cyber truck is coming out with an SUV. Maybe
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: I don't allegedly ELI will tell me. You won't tell
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: me ship, you know, I want to tell you I
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: got a big fucking mountain Online.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 3: People have showed things, but like we don't really know
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 3: what they what have they showed potential? Like it looks
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: a little bit like the mix between an X and
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: a cyber truck.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: See, that would be a smart move for them to
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: make a cyber truck that's an suv. It's a smart
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: move because you already have the shape. Just instead of
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: having the pickup truck part where no one's using. Nextend
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: the seats. Yeah, have the seats back more, and you
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: could even shorten the wheelbase a little bit and make
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: it like you know, like when them smaller Cadillac SUVs
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: you could, or you could just.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: Say all that noise and get a Hellcat Durango because Stilantis.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: Does the Hellcats back baby pretty dope Hellcat Durragles.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: Godfather Hellcat Tim is back running fucking Dodge.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's why, Thank fucking god. Yeah, dog got crushing it.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: They got silly with that electric thing, had some French
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: guy running it. Is that what it killed and killed
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: America facts, that's what it was. He wanted to want
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: to destroy America, poll Aton to beat throw gun. It
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: was like the most iconic American like V eight power
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: car time where Dodge Dodge Viper. Well that's a V
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: ten Dodge Viper you had, but just big engines, right,
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: you had, you know, gasoline engines you had. Of course
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: the Challenger Challenger hell Cat, hell Cat Red Eye crushed it,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: crushed it. Are they gonna discontinue the Challenger.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: No, they're coming out with a gas Challenger. So they
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: fucked up and came out with a Challenger all electric
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: and charger was a charger and a Challenger too.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: They did both.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: Right, you can't change are they're coming out with a
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: charger that's gas power.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the charge is dope. I've seen some reviews. It's
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: it's dope. It's dope, and it's fast, fast, as fuck.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Now we're talking, Jamie, what do you think that? Okay,
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: here we go looking at Jamie. Here you go sitting there. Yeah,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: now we're talking the Drago kept dodge off engine. That's
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: what you need, Jamie. You need a god damn V
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: eight like you're gonna come in here with a fucking
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: Harry chest Damn. Yeah, that's what you need. That's it.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: Forget the Cadillac. We're under this. Now we're on. That's
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: I wasn't.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: This is awesome. People love these. This is a robbery car.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: The track cock That's why I'm off that.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: Track cocks are great, dude.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: It's not that many of them.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: Yea, and people are. Okay, how about you get a
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: Hennessy tell them to leave the badges off. Hennessys are
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: so fun. Hennessy doing leave the badges? Did you just
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: looks like a regular and a sleeper.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: I'll just be worried the whole time.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: What are you living?
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: Did see Hennessy did a super duty Hennessy finally super duty?
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Hens he does dope ship. Dude, they do dope Mustangs,
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: they do dope Cadillacs. They take the black wing. Fucking
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: see that. That's why with with two B. It was like,
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: let's see how these four episodes go. They do? Do
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: you know John Uh, Me and him had a conversation,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: you should do you should do a show with him.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to do a show with him.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: I want to go to Gunther. Yeah. But John's great,
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: He's up the fucking runner. He's great. I can connecute
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: with him. He's a good dude. He's a friend of mine.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: Me and him had a combo because when I was
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: building my wrap to get to fourteen hundred horseback, I called.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: Him, Well, I'll hook you up with Gunther too. Yeah,
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: they're great. He's Peter's very cool too, and smokes his
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: track hawk. Yeah, dude. Oh, the the drang with the
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 1: hell cat smokes them.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably not a hentssy one.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: Well, those it doesn't matter. I mean they put a
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: hell cat in one of those fucking things. You're dealing with,
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: insane horsepower. It's so much horsepower. They're awesome, Jamie, and
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: it's the red Inter it's fucking awesome. Or we're salespeople, well,
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: we're selling Dodge to.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: That actually might have been the track cock on the right.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, whichever you don't fucking get one. I would one
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: hundred percent drive one of those one. I might. I
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: might get one too. If you get one, shit, they get.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: Col charge it.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: That's charge on. How tear you, you son of a bit?
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: You know what? Man? He's not wrong though, with the
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: way gas prices are. I talked to Tim Dillon today.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: He was I was on the phone with him when
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: I was come to the studio. He told me that
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: gas is seven dollars and ninety cents a gallon in
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: LA right.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: Now, and that's down from what it was. I was
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: out there a month shooting commercial and it was up
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: to eight forty something.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: Here's what I don't understand. Are we getting oil from Iran? No?
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: That's so maybe three? So are they just fucking us in?
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: They just know?
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, Americans know if we go to war, we can
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: increase the gas price. So we all just go along
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: Is that real war? Is it? Global prices went up
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: because some of the gas can't get to where it
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: needs to go, and so it they need to make
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: that Monday. So they just fuck you. Isn't it funny?
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: Like they're like, we're gonna make money no matter what.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: The American people are going to lose money, so we
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: make the same amount of money and you need oil.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: But my whole thing is even like when you know,
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 2: when we go to war, people are like, yeah, they're
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: just doing it for money. It's like, how much fucking
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: money do they need?
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: They're all rich anyway. American gas prices are rising mainly
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: because crude oils become more expensive due to the war
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: with Iran and disruptions and global oil supply, plus normal
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: seasons and cost factors and refining distribution in taxes biggest
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: driver crude oil in the Iran war. But what if
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: we got all our oil from America, which we can
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: do well, if we did that, why would oil go
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: up because the prices type.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: Just starts selling it.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: That's stupid. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Besides, there are a
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: bunch of crooks. There are a bunch of crooks. We
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: should have a national oil company and only sell in America,
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: get a bit in house. So no matter what, right there,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: foul shit we do over the outside of the world, still
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: they want. Yeah, even though US is the world's largest
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: oil producer, companies can sell oil on the global market
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: to whoever pays the highest price of high world prices
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: still translate into high domestic gas prices. Hey, mister President,
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: please fix that fucking I don't know if he could
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: do that. They'll kill him. They tried to kill him
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: three times already. You try to try to fuck with
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: that oil money. All of a sudden, President JD is
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: crying on TV. I'm gonna miss don't miss Donald. He
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: was a great mentor to me, and I didn't always
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 1: agree with everything he said, and I wish he didn't
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: post that picture of him as Jesus, I are you doing. Hey.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy to me is there's been like
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: three legit assassination attempts and it's in the news two
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: three days.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: And we're just like, yeah, it's crazy, and we move on. Well,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: there was another one that barely made the news where
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: a guy showed up and tried to attack JD. You
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: remember that guy? No, yes, I know this guy problem
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: showed up. I think it was at the White House.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: I think some guys showed up at the White Guy.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: He just got killed or got shot in Cambridge. So
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: this guy, he had a shootout with the cops three
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: years ago, went to jail for three years, got out
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: and was walking on the street in Cambridge, just unloading
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: his guys, just shooting random people on the street. This
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: guy had gotten a shootout with the cops and only
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: did three years. He got a shoot out with the cops.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: I think twenty bullets were exchanged and he only did
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: three years. Bro.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: Here's the other problem is I saw they took again.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: Whoever is doing these polls. You have to be an
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: idiot to get stopped on the street, and this is wild.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: He's just walking down the street shooting at cars. Bro.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: By the way, I'm running that guy over, especially for
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: my Toyota, my land Cruiser, where I know it's not
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: gonna mess up my car. That's insane. Meanwhile, if I
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: was in Cambridge, though, I probably go to jail for life.
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. You're fucked, yeah for defending the public.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: But I saw a survey said one in four Americans
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: think the assassination tempts on the present are fake. What
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: percentage think the world's flat? One in four? Yeah. The
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: people that thought that the Butler Pennsylvania one was staged
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: don't know anything about guns. That's a fact. I don't
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: know anybody who knows anything about guns that thinks that
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: the president would let some guy nick his ear with
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: a bullet, So dam adam that is in the guy
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: behind him, the firefighter who lost his life, that guy
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: got shot by a bullet that was intended for Trump,
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: and then there's a photo of a bullet whizzing by
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: his face. Anybody that thinks that that staged is out
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: of their fucking mind.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: Or the guy that the corresponds in or who rushed in, Yeah,
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 2: they think that's fake. And it's like, hold on, So
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: you think this guy who's a teacher educated clearly kind
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: of had a shit together threw away his life.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 1: Well, tim Bershett, who I had on the podcast, the Congressman, Yeah,
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: he thinks that guy was like some sort of an
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: mk alt type deal. And he says he thinks they
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: still do that. He thinks someone's still doing I've always
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: thought that.
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to steal. I'm sure he has way
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: better points than me. But if they did mk ultra
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: all those years ago, when you go through the list
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: of Charles Manton, the unibomber, you think it stopped right
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: and you don't think they've gotten better with it exactly,
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: So you just think they're like, Okay, the public knows,
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: we're gonna shut this down. No, dude, Yeah, they just
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: they expand. It gets better and better and better.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: For sure, they're still doing that. And that could have
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: been Thomas Crooks too, the guy who tried to shoot
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: Trump and Butler Pennsylvania. That one was weird as fuck.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: That one's so weird because that guy's house was professionally scrubbed.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: He didn't even have silverware there, He had no online activity,
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: he had no like black rock ties. Have you heard
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: anything about him? Nope? Gone, How weird is that dude vanished?
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: Like what about the Charlie Kirk guy? What about thelie?
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: We haven't heard nothing. One interview with the Weird It's
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: super weird. Nearly one third of Americans thirty believe that
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: at least thirty percent at least one of the three
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: attempts on Donald President's life over the last two years
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: were staged. Wow. For each attempted assassination, a majority of
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: Americans said either that it was stage or that were
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: they were not sure. Fifty four percent said they either
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: thought it was staged or not sure. And that's the problem.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: Only thirty eight percent of Americans believe all three assassination
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: attempts were authentic. This is TikTok. Fucking that's the brains.
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: That's the fucking wrong, rotten their fucking brains out from
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: inside their heads. I know it's not good. Meanwhile, you
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: go on Chinese TikTok, it's all like traditional dance and
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: martial arts. They built it science projects. Yeah, it shuts
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 1: down for kids after ten pm. Yeah, and like Americans
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: have fun. Yeah. Brain, they're doing such a great job. Crush.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: And then they sold it, right, so they sold it
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: to that American company and they're just going to continue
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: doing what the Chinese did and make the most amount
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 1: of money, which is rotten people's brains out. Don't give
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: a fuck. Would it be dope if this America company
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: that bought it said, hey, there's clearly a problem with
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: how things are emphasized and what your algorithm shows you.
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: And what we're gonna do is promote like exceptional people
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: doing exceptional things. Don't you think they would get more users?
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: Because as a dad, I'd be like, Okay, you guys
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: can have TikTok. There's some rules there. It's an educational thing.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: Now, not a fucking chance to no it wouldn't get more.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: It would everyone go right over to Instagram, which is
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: instagrams all as Sati the board. You would have to
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: have no one cross that picket line, and they all
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: would because people are addicted to watching fucked up street
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: fights and crazy things now, Like my algorithm is all
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: like people fighting in parking lots and there's so much
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: Man, my mine's just trucks, cars and fucking fights on Instagram.
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So my problem is me and Sigura every day
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: send each other the worst thing what we find on
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 1: the line. I don't want to start my day like that,
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: and I don't either. I don't either, but it's too late.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 1: But that's the only time I'm going to Instagram now,
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: the only time, and then I'll check my Yeah, this
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: is so much better, feel so much better. I go
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: in occasionally and check Twitter to see what the news is, like,
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: what's trending's what you're no, no, no, And I don't
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: even go into the newsfeed because I used to go
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: into the news, but every now I find things about
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: me all the time, Like I don't want to hear
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: what a bag I am, Like, come on, I'm not
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: here for that. So I can't avoid people getting mad
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: at me or even saying nice things about me. I
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: don't want to read that. I think what's better ish
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: I go to the trending stuff and find out what
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: the news is, So then I'll click on like what
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? And I'll check that out,
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: like that's how I found out about this guy with
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: the gun. And you feel so much better, way better.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: But I'm also more often than not now not going
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: there for my news. And I've kind of curated my
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: Google news feed smart to be much more interesting, like
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: I get more stories and it'll show me stories from X. Yeah,
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 1: so then I can decide whether or not I want
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 1: to actually open up. It's cool to read the story.
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: And did you stop drinking too? I did it, and
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: I went back. I'm back? How back? Are you not back? Crazy?
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: But I'll have a couple of drinks every now, and
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: I haven't gotten drunk since i've been back. I've been
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: over two years now, that's not almost three. Feel good,
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 1: feel great, never been in better shape. Yeah, it's I
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: feel fucking It's definitely better for you. But I do
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: like a glass of wine or two with dinner, and
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: I do like a drink or two with the boys
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 1: when we're at the club every now and then. But
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: I just I was doing it too much. Me too,
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: And then I recognized and so I stopped. Yeah, just
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 1: it wasn't benefiting me.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: And then also, you know, I have addictive personality, like
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: if I do something, I gotta be all in. I
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: got on cars, like literally one day I woke up
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: like I don't need eleven cars, and half of them
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: are trucks and they're all the same.
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 1: You know. It's just like when I get into something,
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: I get so into that. But I'm getting bad. As
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: I'm getting old, I'm getting better checking myself good. It's good.
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: Getting better at that is very important to managing your life.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: It's really important growing well. It's also just realizing that
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 1: there's some addictions that are just not beneficial at all,
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: and then other ones that are really beneficial. So just
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: get addicted to doing things that are good for you. Yeah,
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: in facts, you know. But that's the problem is that,
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people can't regulate their addictions. Well,
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: they're just not good at it, and so they just
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: get caught up and you know, it could be anything.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, yeah, to prey that's me. Yeah, but
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: it's also that same thing is what causes people to
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 1: get good at stuff correct, which is weird. You know,
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: like if you show me a dude who can't get
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: addicted to anything, like there's not one thing that is
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: taking up too much of your time, I probably can't
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: hang out correct, and it's not good. Yeah, not good. Yeah,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: because that same obsessions what led me got me to
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: the UFC or football exactly exactly, like being all in
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: on something I think is where that's where obsession can lead.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: The scary one for me, I think, not for me personally,
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: but when I see it as gambling supercar because I
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: see people that are really rich, not just Dana, but
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: other people that I know that are really rich that
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: gamble big numbers and it freaks me out, like big
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: poker games and crazy amounts of money. They gamble on stuff,
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't like that, But do
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: you get your rocks off in other ways?
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: I think for those like super rich people, like that's
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: kind of like they can buy any car, they can
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: buy any house, or going to a gym in order
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: to get their rocks off.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: That's how they do it. Yeah, but it has to be.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: It has to be a big number. The juice has
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: to be so high. If they've been one hundred bucks
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: on something, they don't even vote, that doesn't mean they
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: might not even catch that ticket, Like they don't feel it.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: You know how you and I are similar with obsession.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: Do you do your kiddos have that? Do you see
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 1: it any o? Yeah? Positive, super driven, but it's very positive.
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: Kids imitate the atmosphere that they grow up in. And
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 1: if your parents have hard work ethic and they're disciplined
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: and their kind only speaking, that's how kids come out. Yeah,
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: I think that you want to kids. I generally genuinely
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: think that it's at least part of it is from
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: the parents. Dude. I coach my son's baseball and football teams.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: The crazy parents I deal with, buddy, dude, and I
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: for the and I try to talk.
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: To the dads because most of them respect me. So
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 2: I'll go, hey, can I give you some advice?
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: Man? You got to back off, dude, But they can't.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: They can't. They can't, and you have to change who
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: they are.
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: And I tell him, I'm like, I'm trying to help
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: you out here. You're you're you love baseball. Whatever you
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: love football. Your son has told me he wants to
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: quit now. The reason wants to quit is because you've
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: made it not fun. He used to love this game
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: when I first got here. Nothing he loved more than football.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: Now he wants to quit because you've made it a
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: job for him. You fucked up, dude, And who's it
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: going to affect a It's gonna suck for him because
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 2: he likes football. You're you're not gonna be able to
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: watch a kid play football?
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: Dude? Could you just I make it not fun? You're
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: going to fuck up your relationship with your kids. I
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: don't try. I don't force my kids into doing it
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: other than they have to go to school. I don't
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 1: force my kids into doing anything they don't want to do.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: If they're not interested in it, you don't have to
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: do it. But find something you are interested in. That's
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 1: my thing.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: Whatever you're into, let's ride. I don't get fuck what
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: is just so happens? It's baseball, football, cool, let's ride, man.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: But if you're going to do personality for that and that,
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: you're very encouraging your kids, but you're not. You're not.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: It's not you thinking that like your self worth is
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: not tied up to your kid's performance. You just want
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: your kids to have fun. The problem is with some people,
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: their kid is almost like their racehorse or something, you
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like it's like it's their whole
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 1: personality gets wrapped around their kid being an elite athlete. Brother.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: And now it's worse because especially in base right, it's
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: like it's a business. Now it's over a billion dollar business.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: So now it's like there's these travel ball. When I
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: was a kid, you have to be really fucking good. Well,
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: now every parent wants to say their kids travel ball.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: So there's the majors, and there's two teams of the Majors.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: There's three triple A, three double A three single.
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  Speaker 1: Am.
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  Speaker 2: I just want my I don't need the best ten
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: year old. I just want him playing. So I don't
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: give up he made the Major's team.
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 1: I don't give it's Majors, triple A wreck. We're playing wherever.
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 1: Have fun, have fun and get apply yourself to something
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: and apply yourself. And I don't give a fuck whether
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: what level we're at.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: We'll play at all and some of the parents, I'll
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: come back from a tournament like you played double a.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's base moment. What you think he can
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: only play majors? So what I can sit around the
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: the water cooler and brag.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys don't crazy that people will like talk
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: down about a kid who's not playing as good as
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: other kids. It's like, what do you But you know
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 1: that's the It's like stage moms. You know there's a.
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: Thing like that with as to your point, and he's
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: tied up and but they what they don't realize is
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: they're fucking it all up.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: It's all gonna get fucked up. I've seen that with
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of young actors where their parents were like
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: super involved in their career and then the kid just
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: did not want to do it anymore. And generally, like
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen it a few times, and one of them
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: that I know really well where the parents stole money
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: from the kid. Fuck dude, yes, he stole like six
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: million dollars. I'll tell you who it is after the show.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: Oh it's awful. It's awful. It's like devastated them to
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: find out. But it's like that's what they're doing. They're
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: they're using the kid as a piggy bank. They quit
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: working they relied entirely on their kid and the kids
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: acting and the kid.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: Let's pressure on the kid ten Oh, I got to
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: afford all this so we can fucking live and I'm nine.
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 1: Not only that, but then you know, the kid starts
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: feeling like, hey, this is my fucking money. Yeah call me, Yeah,
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 1: I can't have cereal. Fuck yourself. He's the boss. Yeah,
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: I mean he he had problems with it too. They
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: all have problems with it. And then on top of that,
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 1: it's just super unhealthy for your kid to get famous
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: when they're ten. Horrible also for pretending. Horrible famous for
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: pretending that's what. How's that going to fix? Personality? Yeah? Well,
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of parents out there, man, they just
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: but I don't understand. You're you're developing a human being.
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons they don't understand is they're
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: not developed well correct, they're fucking nuts. Or the biggest
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: problem is usually the parents who never played right and
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 1: they and they're like, man, they'll see just a glimpse
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: that their son has some talent, and then it's they're
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 1: the worst. Did your get into cars? You big time?
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 1: Oh that's nice, big time? You got to teach them
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: how to drive so they don't stupid when they get old.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I tell them all the time, all the
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 2: fucking time. Don't Oh no, they're going to learn how
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: to drive a manual. It's the easiest way to Jamie.
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: You want to make sure your car didn't get stolen
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 2: by a manuel. The criminals these days don't drive one.
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: Drive one. Sure, Oh he's gonna burn that clutch. Look
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: at them.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 3: I haven't done it in a long time.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: I could figure it out right now. Yeah, especially if
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 1: you're only driving ten miles a day. Perfect candidates.
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 3: I just don't want to.
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 1: That's disappointing. Yeah, my kids.
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's another so many other cars in
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: What do you like?
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 3: I don't get so I don't I'm not driving anywhere.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, But let's just put all that aside.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 1: What cars do you look at you I like that?
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: Or do you look at a car that you like
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: and go that's a target?
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 3: No, it's if it's one I like, it's it ends
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 3: up honestly being like, uh like an X six somewhere
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 3: in that range X five, X six a m w okay,
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 3: somewhere in there are.
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Look, whoever made the new grills
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: on the BMW should be Dick slaugh into the hospital
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 1: like like, what the fuck did you do to one
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: of the most iconic grills, And they hit like the
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: M four's like look, ye, what did you do?
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: It's they're just trying to switch it up, you know,
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: but they.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: Go through that. The only one that looks good or
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 1: it looks decent is the seven series. There's something about
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: the proportions of the seventh series with that big grill.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. That M two is fucking tasty too, though. Okay,
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 1: that's dope cook. They didn't get it goofy with the grills. Yeah,
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: come fuck on with that.
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 3: The sort of fixed it has times gone by, but
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 3: it's still got a big gap, Like.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, I don't like it. The earlier ones were
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: the grossest ones. But look at that right there with
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: the lower I'm sorry, that one's good. But the left one,
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 1: the right one, the white one, Yeah, that's it. Look
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 1: at that's perfect.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 3: That's perfect.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: That's perfect. Do you still have them five? Uh no?
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 1: But I do have the E forty six M three.
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a cool. The two thousand and
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: five that awesome. That one's fucking great. That was literally
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 1: a perfect car. That's a great car, like like that one.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 1: That one's gross. That grill, the lower right one, the
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 1: bronze colored one black. My brother has that M two manual.
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 1: I think fucking CO two amazing. Those are amazing. BMW,
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: to their credit, is still making manual transmissions. Which do
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: they make a manual in the M five? They don't, right,
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the M five is
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: only does it make a manual?
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: Fives are so heavy now that's their issue.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 3: Man is not the first thing coming up.
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they make it at a manual
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: transmission anymore. See if it says manual transmission. Yeah, I
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: think they make the M four manual. Yeah. Oh, six speed,
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: but that's the E sixty V ten that's an old one.
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 1: Those are dope. P ten sound amazing. Yeah, they sound amazing.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: My E forty six is not that fast, there it is?
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: That's old. Yeah, yeah, so the last those are the
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 1: last ones they made in the manual. But my E
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: forty six is small. It's that's what you want? Does it?
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: Way out? It handles really good it's got hydraulic steering,
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: manual transmission, and you know it's a dining so it
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: has a supercharger on it, so it's a little faster,
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: so it's like four hundred something horsepower. But monster, dude,
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 1: it's just fun. It's just you feel it while you're
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: driving it, and they look it's weird.
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 3: And I was trying to check that said that they
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 3: got two of the network, unless there's only two vehicles.
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: Here was it saying it might be?
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 3: It might be just not an American thing?
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: Does that make No? Those are old? No, I know.
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I saw.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: Oh that they so put put in twenty twenty six
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: BMW M five manual.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 3: I just saw that we got two versions at the
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 3: BMW five with a manual that the rest of the
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 3: world missed out on. That's what I saw, was clicking.
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 1: On When does that though? If you click on it,
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 1: I think twenty five right. But I think they're talking
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: about old cars. I think they're doing a history BMW's
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: docause it has two versions. They're talking about older cars.
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: BMW has great interiors too. Oh yeah, some manufacturers still
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 1: fuck and do it right. BMW does it right. They're
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: really good. It's a solid car. And the new M five,
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 1: even if it is an emmanuals fucking screamer of a car.
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: The monsters. Yeah, but they have to make them hybrids now.
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 1: I know it's because of all the fucking so the
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: environmental Trump got rid of the engines. The engine start,
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: you know how when you stop. Oh yeah, you got
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: rid of that. That's good. Yeah, that's I don't like it.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't like that. And some cars I have
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: to press that. Don't do that, and every red light,
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: don't hate it. Don't do that. Hate it. You're not
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: saving anything. All you're doing is cooking my starter. Yeah,
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: because the starter's got to start. Crazy. Trump was like,
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: I'm getting rid of that.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 3: Parking next to one of these.
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, those are cool in person, They're really nice.
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a beautiful car once you get one of them.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 3: Jimmy, Well, what's up.
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He's about the attention.
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 3: Just had a tire problem for you go that far
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 3: models tires just fell apart after ten thousand miles.
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: I know that that was weird. The way your tires
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 1: fell apart was weird. That didn't make any sense because
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: he said he had a flat tire and then you
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 1: got to look at it and it's like there's the
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: wires around. He'd worn down the tread at ten thousand miles. Well,
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: that's the problem with electric cars are so heavy, so
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: you're going through tires faster. But I didn't think it
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 1: would be that fast. He might be driving like a maniac.
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 1: I bet he is. That's going so wire, dude, you know, ratchet.
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 1: You gotta be the wear down to the wire. I
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: think it's the weight. Yeah, it's the way because we
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 1: looked it up and it was like fifteen thousand miles.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: So he's just a little bit more lead headed foot,
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 1: a little more lead foot, lead foot, Jamie. Just a
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: sign to get out of them as he gets older.
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: We're talking lead foot, Jamie.
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 3: These are dope. Austin Martin's are dope.
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, talking Jamie. You know some good ship black Cadillac. Okay, Okay,
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: you don't like Cadillac, Okay, that's a Martin fucking awesome.
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: It's fine. Everybody has different tastes. That's fine. As long
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 1: as you like that. You're like something, Dude, I go
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 1: on Facebook marketplace for you. We'll get your track cocks
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: we'll get your acid. Mar's gotta get something. We gotta
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 1: get them something fun. Let let's know the budget. Dude
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 1: seems a little hesitant, but it does seem open to it. Yeah, well,
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: you drove race cars before around the track. That's fun.
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 3: That's I do that all the time.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 1: But you could buy a car that you can drive,
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 1: have a studio at the track, not drive your own
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: race car. That's true. That's true. They don't worry about
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: sucking it up. That's a good point. So your show's
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 1: on two B shows on two BE Gearhead's Gone Wild.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 1: There's four episodes, and are you releasing new ones?
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 2: You can binge watch all four of them right now,
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: and then if the four do well, they're going to
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 2: order a bunch more.
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 1: And that's where I do Hennessy guns works, I get
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 1: some d how long or each show? I think they're
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 1: like twenty eight minutes each? Yeah, okay, cool, And it's
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: Gearhead's Gone Wild. Yes, they're onto two B. Yep. Because
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: maybe the first time I ever go to Tube. I've
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: never been to TOB I only heard about it like
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 1: a year ago. I just found out about it three
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: months ago. I just can't believe it's that many fucking.
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 2: When they're like, we gotta buy you to be I'm like, okay,
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: let's fucking do it.
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: They've been awesome. That's great. It's easy to watch. Yeah,
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: well be watching it for so many people, but it
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: sounds awesome.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing something that you enjoy. Yeah, I
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: love it. Well, yeah, it's our ship, our brother. You
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: love it, man, Thank you, I love it, Thank you,
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: thank you. All Right, goodbye, everybody, see you