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6-24-26 Hour 3 - PGA back in Denver, Sorsby sidelined/Why not draft at 26?/Sanford calls his shot again · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi and Caine on demand.
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Speaker 2: Listen live every weekday morning from seven to ten on
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Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five and on the
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Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio App. I don't want to hijack this
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Speaker 2: program about golf, but having a PGA Tour event vic
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Speaker 2: and you're talking about the big tour, right, not the
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Speaker 2: little guys.
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Speaker 1: And then me be very detailed here. As early as
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. I'm not saying it's going to be
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, but that's as early the PG eight
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Speaker 1: tours making an effort to go to the bigger markets.
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Speaker 1: They've been to Denver, they love Denver, and it may
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Speaker 1: take longer than that to set it up these courses. Man,
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Speaker 1: it takes time to set up a tournament, so it
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Speaker 1: could be twenty nine or thirty, but it's coming.
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Speaker 3: It's coming. We are going to get a tour stop
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Speaker 3: back here again.
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Speaker 2: I read that they're looking to the big markets like Boston, Denver, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: New York, Philly, San Francisco's Seattle in d C. To
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Speaker 2: fill out the spots. After all the Biggins, you know,
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Speaker 2: the Arnold Palmer and the at and T and Pebble
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Speaker 2: beach and Genesis and all that kind of thing. So
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Speaker 2: I'll just say this, Bret Kane, I know you had
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Speaker 2: a wonderful time at the BMW Championship.
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Speaker 3: I did.
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Speaker 2: I had a wonderful time there too, Vick, I know
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Speaker 2: you had a good time. Everybody knows you had a
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Speaker 2: good time. I think the whole world knows you.
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Speaker 3: That's from.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, you want those good times to continue. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're starting a fraternity. No, So the idea is cool.
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Speaker 2: There you go listen the end. The BMW Cherry Hills
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Speaker 2: is great. The International I used to love to go
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Speaker 2: to because all the big guns are in town, or
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Speaker 2: at least most of the beg guns. But if we're
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Speaker 2: looking at this particular schedule, we're part of the big
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Speaker 2: Gun Tour. That means the big guns are going to
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Speaker 2: be here. Yep, every single year. It's it's big. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the market can handle it. We've done it before. The
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Speaker 2: crowds have been spectacular at these events.
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Speaker 1: And our and our crowds aren't jerks, correct like the
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Speaker 1: New York crowds. Absolute classic jerk, classless jerks.
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Speaker 3: I'll boost some people.
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Speaker 2: It's just I'm very curious to see how this two
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Speaker 2: tier tour is going to work so that the second
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Speaker 2: tier of the tour will they'll have stops at other
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Speaker 2: places that are not corn Ferry or the main tour.
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Speaker 2: VIC Is that correct? You gotta help me out with this, man.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand how it's going to work.
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Speaker 3: I just what do you mean?
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Speaker 2: So they're gonna have like their own little tour. They'll
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Speaker 2: combine some events and then the secondary.
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Speaker 3: Tours is essentially the corn Ferry stood up. I don't
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Speaker 3: think that's all that much different. The relegation part is.
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Speaker 3: But it's it's the corn Fairy, but.
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Speaker 2: The corn Faery is still going to exist. So I mean,
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Speaker 2: if I was a pro golfer, I don't think so.
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. It said that it is.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, guess we'll see.
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Speaker 3: There aren't enough golfers around for all these damn tours.
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Speaker 3: Going back to something else from today, which I think
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Speaker 3: is I'm not surprising, but noteworthy. I'll call it. When
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Speaker 3: the NFL just basically slammed the door on Brendan Soresby
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Speaker 3: and did so in a way that that they could
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Speaker 3: deny responsibility in They just said, hey, uh, not enough
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Speaker 3: interest in the supplemental draft this year. I guess we
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Speaker 3: won't have it. I think the last time they had
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Speaker 3: when was twenty twenty three. But there is no like that.
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Speaker 3: You cannot, absolutely cannot convince me that there wouldn't be
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Speaker 3: a team that would have taken Brendan Soarsby. A team
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Speaker 3: would have somebody. I mean the Jets. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: If you guys saw Gino Smith might be in some
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Speaker 3: legal trouble. They might not have a quarterback in Week one.
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Speaker 3: Who knows.
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Speaker 2: I got to see their death chart real quick. I've
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Speaker 2: got to see it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, who's the backup there? Tell me that as we're waiting.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. That's where quarterbacks go to die. So
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Speaker 2: it's somebody in their deathbed. Let's see it is kayde Klubnicklick. Oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: the Clemson kid, then Brady Cook and then or fourth
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Speaker 2: quarterback right now is Fuzzy Bailey Phyz Bailey Zap. So
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Speaker 2: they they.
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Speaker 3: Deny responsibility in saying that, well, what do you want
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Speaker 3: from me? Nobody was interested? That is absolutely untrue. But
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Speaker 3: I guess how do you prove it? But they are
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Speaker 3: doing the rare thing. It happens very occasionally, but they
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Speaker 3: do kind of have a handshake agreement with the NCAA
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Speaker 3: on some things because they are an unaffiliated partner, we'll
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Speaker 3: call it. That's their minor league system. That's how they
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Speaker 3: drive all these ratings for the NFL Draft that they
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Speaker 3: get are solely responsible because college football is huge and
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Speaker 3: they don't have to pay a dime. What what a sap.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it a scam, but what a
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Speaker 1: wonderful benefit for the National Football perk to have a
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Speaker 1: developmental league you pay nothing for, yep, and it gives
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Speaker 1: you all your talent. It provides you a ratings boost
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Speaker 1: in the offseason with the draft, It gives you wall
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Speaker 1: the wall coverage all year long based on who's going.
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Speaker 3: To play in your league. That's a great deal if
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Speaker 3: you can find one. So the nc DOUBLEA says, well,
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Speaker 3: he's not playing here because he gambled on our sport
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Speaker 3: and that's not allowed. He's not allowed in the NFL either, right,
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Speaker 3: and they're like the NFL was.
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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, right, that sounds pretty good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I.
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Speaker 2: Can see why from there. Aside from propping up, protecting
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Speaker 2: and helping the NC DOUBLEA, right, you're also sending a
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Speaker 2: clear message to anybody else who would try this, even
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Speaker 2: in your own league. Man, we absolutely look If you
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Speaker 2: didn't realize we looked down upon gambling before in terms
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Speaker 2: of our players involved in it, coaching staff, anybody, then
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Speaker 2: you're really you're really going to get a message now
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Speaker 2: because we're not even letting this guy in the league.
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Speaker 3: We aren't your safety valve here. That is correct, We aren't.
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Speaker 3: And the NFL has their own punishment systems for players
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Speaker 3: who do this. Now if I don't think they've had
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Speaker 3: any buddy in the NFL that has been guilty of
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Speaker 3: betting on their own team now that sports scrambling is
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Speaker 3: more widely available, you know again, like a Wazarika, I
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Speaker 3: think that suspended for a year because he bet on
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Speaker 3: the NFL. I don't think it was ever the Broncos though.
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Speaker 2: But you're not allowed to bet on anything on team grounds.
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Speaker 2: Who was popped in the team hotel Jamison Williams.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like a college bet down, but he was
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Speaker 3: technically at a team hotel on the road, and that's
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Speaker 3: not allowed. Despite betting on college football is allowed.
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Speaker 2: But if you if you walk out of the hotel,
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Speaker 2: you walk down to an Arby's and You're sitting in
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Speaker 2: the lobby of Arby's having a roast beef and can
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Speaker 2: you place the bet?
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Speaker 3: Sounds like it, Yeah, with all those geo fence to play.
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Speaker 2: So that's just so weird. I mean, that's the look.
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Speaker 3: And I don't think that Sowersby should be allowed to
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Speaker 3: play either. But I think that Tyler plumb is brought
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Speaker 3: up a decent point yesterday about is this a dangerous
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Speaker 3: precedent to set.
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Speaker 4: This isn't, said Brendan Soaresby. But no, I actually don't
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Speaker 4: think I like it. It's a really weird precedent to say,
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Speaker 4: we're basically suspending somebody that was not a part of
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Speaker 4: our organization. We're suspending you for a year. We're saying
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Speaker 4: you're not allowed to play here for a year. Next
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Speaker 4: year you can come play here, but you weren't a
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Speaker 4: part of our organization. Now here's where it gets tricky.
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Speaker 4: He's also not a part of the NFLPA, So the
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Speaker 4: people that he needs to go fight his fight for
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Speaker 4: him right now to make him eligible in this draft.
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Speaker 2: He's not a paid member of that.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't pay dues into that organization, right, So he's
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Speaker 4: at a really complex situation here.
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Speaker 2: That.
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Speaker 4: I don't like the precedent of the NFL being able
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Speaker 4: to make decisions like this on people that are not
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Speaker 4: going to be represented by either side in a proper way.
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Speaker 3: I think it's a decent point that whenever you get
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Speaker 3: punished by a league, typically you can lean on the
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Speaker 3: NFLPA and be like, Hey, what are my rights in
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Speaker 3: this situation? Can I appeal this? Can I do this
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Speaker 3: and that? But because somebody says, why isn't each just
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Speaker 3: a free agent? You have to be available in the
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Speaker 3: draft process first before you're a free agent. Correct. He
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Speaker 3: wasn't available in April for the draft. The supplemental draft
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Speaker 3: was going to be the one he was available in.
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Speaker 3: If he didn't go, then then he'd be a free agent.
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Speaker 3: But then he they aren't having one. Correct, So he's
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Speaker 3: in no man's land. Can't play college football, he can't
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Speaker 3: play in the NFL. He can go play in Canada,
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Speaker 3: he can go play in the UFL.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know what the nflpa's
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Speaker 2: What would they get out of it by fighting for Sowresby.
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Speaker 3: I don't think they would get anything out of it.
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Speaker 3: But look, man, if you're a defense lawyer, and you're
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Speaker 3: representing a guy I was accused of murder. You have to.
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Speaker 2: But but he's not a part of the NFLPA, none
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Speaker 2: of these organizations. And I see what Tyler is saying.
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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily disagree with him.
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Speaker 3: That that's the point. Though he's not a part of
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Speaker 3: the NFLPA because he's not allowed to be from the NFL.
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Speaker 2: But there's no obligation vic from any of these organizations,
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Speaker 2: the NFLPA, the nf the CFL, the UFL. There is
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Speaker 2: no other league right arena league what There's no obligation
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Speaker 2: for them to take him in any for any reason whatsoever.
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Speaker 3: There's not.
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Speaker 2: But now you could say, if he's good enough to
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Speaker 2: play in any of these leagues, they'd be dumb not to,
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Speaker 2: or you know what, they somebody should give him a shot.
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Speaker 2: He's repented. I don't know, but I see what. I
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Speaker 2: see what Tyler is saying. I don't necessarily disagree with
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Speaker 2: weird precedents being set and so on, But I don't
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Speaker 2: know what it's in what it's in it for the NFLPA,
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Speaker 2: and what's in it for the league to have him
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Speaker 2: in this year. Well, here's what the.
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Speaker 3: Only part of this I don't understand, because again, the
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Speaker 3: worst sin you can commit in professional sports is gambling
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Speaker 3: on the sport that you're participating. That's that's the worst
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Speaker 3: you can do. And it's judging by all the punishments
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Speaker 3: they've ever lifetime bans for people who have done it.
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Speaker 3: Do you allow this guy to repent and then be
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Speaker 3: allowed in I don't know, or do you just say
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Speaker 3: you're not allowed at all? I don't know where's the
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Speaker 3: line on that.
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Speaker 2: I just I truly do not know. But they're under
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Speaker 2: no obligation to take him. Said. If the NFLPA is
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Speaker 2: under zero obligation to defend him, I know, this is like,
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Speaker 2: you know why they would.
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Speaker 3: This is the lamest sports radio thing that people do,
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Speaker 3: but it's the Pete Rose Hall of Fame thing is
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Speaker 3: directly tied to him gambling on the sport. Correct, And
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Speaker 3: they said, you're not allowed at all in this in
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Speaker 3: any capacity, whether it be active or inactive, Hall of
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Speaker 3: Fame or coaching or whatever. In the case of Soresby,
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Speaker 3: don't you have to kind of set a line of
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Speaker 3: you're not allowed to play at all or can you
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Speaker 3: just do this? You're suspended for a little bit because
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Speaker 3: that's essentially what they're doing, these leagues.
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Speaker 1: In bed now with the gambling companies and pushing these
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Speaker 1: gambling gambling companies to the point of no return and.
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Speaker 3: Then gambling episodes happening. Man, the lines are being blurred here.
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they are. I think
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Speaker 3: it's pretty clear. Don't gamble on your sport.
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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But when you know,
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Speaker 1: when you have guys that do it before they enter
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Speaker 1: the sport, the lines blurred.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's true.
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Speaker 2: I would never I would never gamble on my sport.
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Speaker 2: Number one because the big Hockey's probably it looks when
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Speaker 2: gambled upon, looks at a pain of the ass to
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Speaker 2: bet on. Number two, Basketball is number one, by the way,
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Speaker 2: Basketball in the United States number one gambled sport because
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Speaker 2: it's very easy to do. Yep, win or a loser
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Speaker 2: by how many football I.
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Speaker 3: Guess like is is going to score twenty five points.
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Speaker 2: But I'm not allowed to anyway. I'm not allowed to
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Speaker 2: on on the NBA. I'm not allowed to on the NHL.
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Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to on the NFL. YEP, neither am I.
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Speaker 2: We are not allowed, none of us are because of
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Speaker 2: our ownership. That is correct. I would never. I mean
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Speaker 2: I don't gamble anyway, so it doesn't really I mean
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Speaker 2: I play poker.
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Speaker 3: Well you can't have on the golf course. That's true too,
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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't call you gambling on the golf course.
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Speaker 3: I would call you losing on the golf course. You
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Speaker 3: hand out money, Yeah, you're like an ATM gambling.
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Speaker 1: Is that the definition of gamblings? You have a chance
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Speaker 1: to win, But for you, it's so it's like you're depositing.
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Speaker 1: So it's so it's like me sitting in a chair
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Speaker 1: of green side.
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Speaker 2: Right on green three, here comes big Cane and I'm like,
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Speaker 2: WHOA just throwing money at you?
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm a stripper.
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Speaker 2: You're a golf strippers essentially that do a little dance
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Speaker 2: of the flagstick where you get the money. Yeah, there
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Speaker 2: is comes on three down after a sixty I'm throwing.
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Speaker 3: Look, I would have done a pole dance.
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing that to this day it still kills me.
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Speaker 2: There's no what you brought up, No way made that.
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Speaker 3: What you brought up Victough is I heard this immediately
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Speaker 3: when guys were getting popped for or suspended initially in
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Speaker 3: the league, and that whole like, what did you expect
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Speaker 3: the secret you started advertising for gambling? I was like,
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Speaker 3: oh yeah, like all those hammered players out there because
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Speaker 3: they advertised bud light. I think you know you can't
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Speaker 3: booze before a game, just like they know you can't
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Speaker 3: bet on the sport you're participating in. They pretty clear.
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Speaker 1: I don't a seminar to be like, all right, I understand,
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Speaker 1: but so when when when leagues are laying the hammer
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Speaker 1: on players for gambling on one side and in the
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Speaker 1: middle of that thought, don't forget we have betting.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's hard to hear both sides.
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Speaker 1: You're in the middle of the game, and I don't
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Speaker 1: think you're talking about an announcers talking about how a
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Speaker 1: player got suspended for betting. Okay, but and then the
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Speaker 1: read going to break is, hey, we got a hell
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Speaker 1: of a parley coming at you today.
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Speaker 2: Vic.
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Speaker 3: We just said, am I allowed to gamble? No? So
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Speaker 3: I just did a fanatic sportsbook rate right, it's the
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Speaker 3: same thing what I can and can't do. But you
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Speaker 3: can still advertise for somebody exactly correct to me, It's
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Speaker 3: not that hard. It's not like, well I wasn't gonna
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Speaker 3: do it. And then the TV told me I could
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Speaker 3: do it, so I'm gonna do it now.
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Speaker 1: I thought with what Roger Goodell did with Soresby and
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Speaker 1: issuing that statement was.
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Speaker 3: Not only the right thing to do, the smart thing
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Speaker 3: to do.
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Speaker 1: It's about time they've been proactive on stuff like this,
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Speaker 1: because the worst thing that could have happened is allow
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Speaker 1: him to go through that supplemental draft and then after
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Speaker 1: the fact, oh sorry, you can't play.
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Speaker 3: Just nip it in the butt right away. He can
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Speaker 3: return to football.
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Speaker 1: The commissioner said he is allowed to enter the draft
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven. He's essentially sitting out one year,
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Speaker 1: which is not a big penalty for a dude who
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Speaker 1: bet nine thousand times.
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Speaker 2: I completely agree with that. Keep working out, kid, keep
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Speaker 2: throwing that pig.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, funny thing is I mean, didn't did Terry Rosier
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Speaker 3: get I know he was accused or he was being investigated.
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Speaker 3: Did he actually get hit with the same thing? Was
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Speaker 3: he betting on his own his his own sport, his
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Speaker 3: own team.
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even know where that's at. Does
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Speaker 2: anybody know where that's at?
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Speaker 5: I thought he was the player that they investigated for
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Speaker 5: point shaving and then the NBA said, now upon further review, you're.
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Speaker 3: Just you just suck. Yeah, that's right. Here's my question.
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Speaker 2: I think they're going to have a trial.
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Speaker 3: If Brendan Soorsby was in the NFL when he did this,
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Speaker 3: is he suspended for a year or kicked out of
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Speaker 3: the league. He's out of the league. That's the weird
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Speaker 3: line that I don't I don't know where you draw
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Speaker 3: it at. Well, he's not in the league right now.
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Speaker 3: He didn't do it while he was in the league,
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Speaker 3: but he was punted. But that's I guess the point
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Speaker 3: that I'm making. If the punishment will be stiffer if
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Speaker 3: you did it in the league, then why are you
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Speaker 3: allowed to punish somebody for something that was outside of
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Speaker 3: their purview.
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Speaker 2: They're not punishing him.
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Speaker 3: Not to have a supplemental draft.
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Speaker 2: They're under no obligation to have a draft.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but but this is in essence a one year suspension.
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Speaker 2: You can only punish somebody that's part of your situation.
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Speaker 3: Okay, answer my question. If the supplemental draft happened, do
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Speaker 3: you think a team would have drafted Probably they said
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Speaker 3: nobody was interested.
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Speaker 2: Good.
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Speaker 3: Why send a message?
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Speaker 2: Send a message? Because why you know why. Because they can.
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Speaker 2: That's why, because they can.
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Speaker 3: But in essence, is that not a suspension.
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Speaker 2: I really don't give a rest.
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Speaker 3: I don't care that you can define it however you want. Nobody.
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Speaker 3: Nobody's sitting here saying, oh poor guy, I'm not either.
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Speaker 3: I'm not either. I'm just talking about the way that
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Speaker 3: the NFL is handling this. And that's why again, the
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Speaker 3: NFL doing.
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Speaker 1: The NFL is doing the dirty work that texts Tech
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Speaker 1: should have done in the first place.
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Speaker 3: Correct, which is a punishment. So you do agree, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but he was a member of Texas Tech. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's also a message to the n c double a,
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Speaker 1: don't try and forge your trash to us because your
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Speaker 1: NIL deals are going sour now though we're not playing
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Speaker 1: that game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well to college players anyway.
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Speaker 3: But they're they're maybe they're backing up the n CUBA,
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Speaker 3: They're they're punishing a collegiate infraction. That's all I'm getting at.
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Speaker 2: That's what they're doing because they because they can be,
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Speaker 2: because they can because he's not a part of them.
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Speaker 3: But they can't say that out loud or else they
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Speaker 3: would have trouble. So they say, uh, nobody wants you
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Speaker 3: that's it. Three h three five oh four oh nine
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Speaker 3: two five whole lot to get two stagram more or
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Speaker 3: less interesting than last night? Will round two of the
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Speaker 3: drafts be for the Nuggets? What do you think? Are
17:53
Speaker 3: you going to be more or less intrigued by the
17:56
Speaker 3: end of the night tonight? Is I, honestly, are you
17:59
Speaker 3: going to be more or less intrigued by the end
18:02
Speaker 3: of the night tonight with the Nuggets than you were
18:04
Speaker 3: last night? Or is it gonna feel like sort of
18:06
Speaker 3: the same thing. He'll pick, require some future assets, maybe
18:12
Speaker 3: take a guy in the second round. I don't know.
18:14
Speaker 3: I don't know what their plan is. I kind of
18:17
Speaker 3: want something more substantial. What I believe they'll do they have.
18:26
Speaker 1: Two second round picks tonight, okay, and they also have
18:30
Speaker 1: a pair in their back pocket from yesterday's move correct, yeah, okay,
18:35
Speaker 1: two futures okay. What I believe they'll do is this conjecture. Clearly,
18:41
Speaker 1: I think they'll use one of those second rounders tonight
18:44
Speaker 1: package the other to shed salary to allow them to
18:47
Speaker 1: make some moves down the line.
18:49
Speaker 3: That is my guess.
18:51
Speaker 1: It's not my hope, it's my guess because I have
18:54
Speaker 1: no idea what they're really gonna do.
18:58
Speaker 3: That's my hope. My hope is at how about this,
19:02
Speaker 3: whether they take a guy to guys tonight, whatever, my
19:05
Speaker 3: hope is at the end of the night tonight, it'll
19:08
Speaker 3: have shed some sort of salad.
19:10
Speaker 1: I think the frustration from Nuggets fans is just not
19:12
Speaker 1: knowing because most teams, you know, you go through the
19:15
Speaker 1: draft and you're like, Okay, we've got something. We've got
19:17
Speaker 1: that shiny object. We've got that represents hope. Right, you
19:21
Speaker 1: got that player, no matter who it is.
19:25
Speaker 3: Well, we had Christmas Day here and got nothing. And
19:29
Speaker 3: you always feel that way in any draft, any team.
19:33
Speaker 3: I think you hit on something earlier, though, Vick, I'm
19:36
Speaker 3: not feeling again. I don't even know what this emotion at. Angsty.
19:40
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know what it is, disillusioned, confused. Here's why,
19:47
Speaker 3: it's not that they didn't do anything last night. I
19:50
Speaker 3: understand that that's not the bothersome part. I don't know
19:54
Speaker 3: what the direction is. I don't know where to go.
19:59
Speaker 3: I don't know how you're going to accomplish it. I
20:02
Speaker 3: don't know if this team is going to run it
20:04
Speaker 3: back or make major changes or make little tweaks like
20:07
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. I
20:09
Speaker 3: do know this.
20:10
Speaker 1: They believe that anybody they would have taken it twenty
20:13
Speaker 1: six last night would not have made a difference in
20:16
Speaker 1: the outcome here in the next two years.
20:18
Speaker 3: That's true.
20:20
Speaker 1: If they believed that there was a player who would
20:23
Speaker 1: have helped them win a championship now, not in ten
20:27
Speaker 1: years now, they would have taken that player at twenty
20:30
Speaker 1: six last night.
20:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree.
20:33
Speaker 1: That player was not available. And whoever you think it
20:36
Speaker 1: might have been. I really like that LeBaron Filon who
20:38
Speaker 1: went to the sixers at what was it, twenty twenty
20:41
Speaker 1: one around there, whoever that player might be. They believed
20:45
Speaker 1: that player was off the board gone.
20:46
Speaker 3: So now let's trade the pick.
20:48
Speaker 1: The reason the Nuggets are in this situation to recap
20:51
Speaker 1: for everybody, and I understand everyone's frustrations.
20:54
Speaker 3: I'd be frustrated too. They made a run at it, man.
20:57
Speaker 1: They they took all their assets over the last five years.
21:04
Speaker 3: And they basically said, blank them.
21:06
Speaker 1: Picks, and they updated and upgraded the roster best they
21:11
Speaker 1: could to make a run at another championship. And last
21:14
Speaker 1: year in the offseason, when they refined the roster and
21:19
Speaker 1: they signed those offseason acquisitions. We looked at that Nuggets
21:22
Speaker 1: roster and we said.
21:23
Speaker 2: What ready to go?
21:25
Speaker 3: Baby, Yeah, that's a championship roster.
21:28
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, championship roster that will contend for a championship.
21:32
Speaker 1: And hell, even despite the injuries, dreadful injuries, they finished
21:38
Speaker 1: the season with fifty four wins. They finished the season
21:41
Speaker 1: with a twelve game win streak. They finished the season
21:44
Speaker 1: in the eyes of many as one of the favorites
21:46
Speaker 1: to win a damn championship with that roster. No, it's amazing, Vicary,
21:50
Speaker 1: you don't win it. And now it's time to pay
21:53
Speaker 1: the piper a little bit.
21:54
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Nelly pull something up, something that I
21:57
Speaker 2: just realized I've never heard in my entire life, and
22:00
Speaker 2: the odds of it happening here tonight. Nelly, let me
22:05
Speaker 2: know when you're ready. I've never heard this before.
22:08
Speaker 3: This better be relevant.
22:12
Speaker 6: With the forty first pick in the twenty fourteen NBA Draft,
22:17
Speaker 6: the Denver Nuggets select Nico la Jokich from Somber, Serbia.
22:23
Speaker 6: He last played for Megavisura in Serbia.
22:28
Speaker 2: I've never actually heard Mark Tatum make that pick. Ever.
22:32
Speaker 2: That weird because it was during commercial tru It was
22:35
Speaker 2: during the Taco Bell commercial o case. So you know
22:37
Speaker 2: everybody knows that, but I never heard it. So tonight,
22:41
Speaker 2: could it be the same kind of thing? I mean,
22:43
Speaker 2: could they just swing for the fences on somebody under
22:46
Speaker 2: a rock someplace and you know, under a rak Istan
22:50
Speaker 2: and just.
22:50
Speaker 3: What, No, that's that's not happening.
22:55
Speaker 2: You aren't getting yo kitchen again tonight. I remember when
22:57
Speaker 2: I was, when I was a kid, there was a
22:59
Speaker 2: park range who hit by lightning, struck by lightning seven times.
23:02
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's impossible. Well it happened, So maybe lightning
23:06
Speaker 2: can strike twice in the second round in my lifetime
23:09
Speaker 2: because it's it's the greatest second round pick in the
23:12
Speaker 2: history of the game.
23:13
Speaker 1: In an effort to refine the roster over the last
23:18
Speaker 1: four years, the Nuggets put themselves in a position where
23:22
Speaker 1: they have a dearth of draft picks, a literally empty wallet.
23:27
Speaker 1: Is it is Brett Kane and Mark Moser's wallet on
23:30
Speaker 1: a daily basis, they have no cash. So this is
23:34
Speaker 1: an ATM visit yesterday. That's what that was. Trading for
23:38
Speaker 1: two first rounders. Got to replenish it, got some cash.
23:44
Speaker 1: Let's see how they use it tonight.
23:46
Speaker 3: I I'm trying to look back and see where all
23:50
Speaker 3: of these second rounders went.
23:52
Speaker 1: Well, three of them went to I'll tell you where
23:54
Speaker 1: they went. Three of them went to offload Reggie Jackson. Yeah,
23:58
Speaker 1: which is stunning to me. That that that, to me,
24:00
Speaker 1: is the most stunning move I've ever seen. That it
24:04
Speaker 1: took three draft picks to get off his five million
24:06
Speaker 1: dollar contract. I still don't I still can't figure that
24:09
Speaker 1: one out. They also gave up a couple to move
24:12
Speaker 1: up to get.
24:15
Speaker 3: Who was that?
24:17
Speaker 2: Was it?
24:17
Speaker 1: Peyton Watson? I think they gave up one or two
24:19
Speaker 1: to move up and draft him. They gave up a
24:21
Speaker 1: couple to get Holmes, so that ad them all up.
24:27
Speaker 1: That's about six second round draft picks just used in
24:30
Speaker 1: those transactions.
24:32
Speaker 2: I think I just made a lot too easy.
24:33
Speaker 3: And traded the twenty thirty two picked off load Hunter Tyson.
24:37
Speaker 1: Okay, at seven, that's seven second rounders off their hands,
24:42
Speaker 1: moving players or moving up to get players.
24:46
Speaker 3: That's my problem. It's it's not that they did the
24:49
Speaker 3: FM picks route. It's that their picks were used to
24:55
Speaker 3: basically send things away as opposed to acquire things.
25:00
Speaker 2: Correct, But that's what you do when you're trying to
25:03
Speaker 2: capitalize on the moment. That's what you do. Yeah, it's
25:08
Speaker 2: what you do. It's what the Florida Panthers have done.
25:12
Speaker 2: Hell Vegas has done it. You know they're trying to
25:14
Speaker 2: win down there.
25:15
Speaker 3: But is it to offload deals?
25:18
Speaker 2: No, but no. But you're using the picks's assets to
25:20
Speaker 2: try and improve your right now team.
25:23
Speaker 3: That that I'm fine with. Again, it's the idea that
25:27
Speaker 3: you use them. It should not take three second round
25:31
Speaker 3: picks to get rid of a five million dollar Archie Jackson.
25:34
Speaker 2: Cons are no answers? Are there no answers right here?
25:38
Speaker 2: I'm just sick of listen. I know you need to
25:41
Speaker 2: fill out a roster. I get that, But I mean,
25:44
Speaker 2: Zeke was a first you seven years. I don't know
25:49
Speaker 2: who he is. Doron Holmes is a first. I know
25:53
Speaker 2: he got injured two years ago. I get that, played
25:56
Speaker 2: sparingly this year, That's.
25:57
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
25:58
Speaker 2: I don't know why?
25:59
Speaker 3: What is he?
25:59
Speaker 2: What are these these nothings? These just wasted? These are
26:05
Speaker 2: space takers? What are we doing?
26:07
Speaker 3: Can Jalen Pickett play or not?
26:08
Speaker 2: I don't know how do I not have? I don't
26:10
Speaker 2: know how do I.
26:11
Speaker 3: Not know that way he played in January.
26:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah.
26:16
Speaker 3: Like I shouldn't be asking these questions this late into
26:20
Speaker 3: these guys careers. And that's what's frustrating is you know,
26:24
Speaker 3: you sign a second round pick, correct me if I'm wrong.
26:26
Speaker 4: VIC.
26:27
Speaker 3: Most of the time, those guys are maybe two way
26:28
Speaker 3: contracts to start, unless you just give them the fully
26:32
Speaker 3: guaranteed contract and NBA contract from the jump. And they
26:35
Speaker 3: did that for Hunter Tyson and Jalen Pickett and neither
26:38
Speaker 3: of them played. Neither.
26:40
Speaker 1: Well, we talk so much about stuff that makes no sense, Okay,
26:43
Speaker 1: and that's why the draft remains a crap shooting. There's
26:45
Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, this draft is so deep, we have
26:47
Speaker 1: no idea who can play and who can't anybody who
26:50
Speaker 1: thinks they can.
26:50
Speaker 3: And you're you're fooling yourself. You're you're lying to yourself.
26:53
Speaker 1: And I'll give you just another example because it just
26:55
Speaker 1: made news moments ago. Austin Reeves signed a maximum contract
27:01
Speaker 1: with the LA Lakers. He signed a four year, one
27:05
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five million dollar max contract.
27:10
Speaker 3: Where was Austin reach drafted? Fellas he was?
27:13
Speaker 2: If I'm not he was undrafted, that's my undrafted guard
27:18
Speaker 2: out of undrafted Oklahoma.
27:21
Speaker 3: That's undrafted.
27:23
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted him.
27:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for good reason.
27:30
Speaker 3: What do you mean for good read? You mean I
27:32
Speaker 3: don't like it? Well? You like him?
27:35
Speaker 1: Now, don't you to go from undrafted to take well, yeah,
27:40
Speaker 1: to go from undrafted to a max deal.
27:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a pretty good right, Yes, one hundred percent.
27:48
Speaker 3: It is amazing. I'm okay. Just for argument's sake, if
27:58
Speaker 3: you took Austin Reeves as an undrafted guy, would he play?
28:05
Speaker 3: You know what?
28:06
Speaker 2: If he was at Denver Nugget, would we even know
28:07
Speaker 2: if he could play?
28:09
Speaker 1: And therein lies the issues with some of these players
28:13
Speaker 1: that really make it. Opportunity is everything, and sometimes when
28:20
Speaker 1: you played for a really good team, you're not going
28:23
Speaker 1: to get the same opportunities. Right Like, when you're drafted
28:28
Speaker 1: or you're assembled to a great squad, good luck getting
28:31
Speaker 1: playing time. But if your first few years are with
28:34
Speaker 1: a bad team that desperately needs you, watch out.
28:38
Speaker 3: The Lakers had Lebron when he was there. It's not
28:40
Speaker 3: like that team they were.
28:41
Speaker 1: Yes, they weren't bad, but they weren't as they weren't
28:45
Speaker 1: as talented.
28:47
Speaker 2: When did he sign with them? Obviously, it's after the bubble, right,
28:52
Speaker 2: help me? I want to say twenty twenty twenty one,
28:56
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty one.
29:00
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, So, I mean the Lakers are
29:01
Speaker 3: coming off a championship. I mean, they're pretty good this
29:06
Speaker 3: but this is what I'm getting at, is the only way.
29:10
Speaker 2: But Michael Malona played often.
29:13
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding, and I don't want
29:16
Speaker 3: to make too much of it because we've seen guys
29:18
Speaker 3: like Spencer Jones plays and he's an undrafted guy. I
29:21
Speaker 3: mean whatever. All I'm saying is this happens too frequently
29:27
Speaker 3: in which we're talking about canley guy play or not.
29:31
Speaker 3: Isaiah Hartenstein can play, couldn't here.
29:35
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he'll play for OKAC anymore too,
29:37
Speaker 1: because they just drafted that Mark kid.
29:39
Speaker 3: But the guy's one hundred million dollar player. VIC like
29:42
Speaker 3: he play bass. I get it. Yeah, Colin Glessie could play.
29:48
Speaker 3: He just made forty eight million dollars the other day.
29:51
Speaker 3: He could play, not here. That's what I'm talking about. Opportunity.
29:57
Speaker 3: You need to be able to let these guys fight
30:00
Speaker 3: through some bad stretches of play. You have to you
30:03
Speaker 3: have to give them consistent minutes. It's the only way
30:06
Speaker 3: you figure it out. If your whole thing is well,
30:08
Speaker 3: I can't put them in the game because if they
30:10
Speaker 3: do that, then we might lose. Well, then you might
30:13
Speaker 3: lose a game in December. Whoopedie doo. It's about building
30:18
Speaker 3: that for later in the year when you have two
30:20
Speaker 3: major injuries in the postseason and you're looking at your
30:23
Speaker 3: bench saying, well, God, these guys didn't play all year.
30:25
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can trust him now. Can't
30:27
Speaker 3: happen anymore? Can't. In fact, you need to play those
30:30
Speaker 3: guys with the team healthy. They need to play with
30:33
Speaker 3: some of those starters. You need to see Jalen Pickett
30:36
Speaker 3: with Jokich. You need to see Doron Holmes playing with
30:40
Speaker 3: Christian Brown like that stuff has to happen.
30:42
Speaker 1: In conclusion, I still have no idea what the Nuggets.
30:49
Speaker 3: So literally, you could tell me the Nuggets will trade
30:54
Speaker 3: both of their second round picks for future second round picks,
30:56
Speaker 3: I'd be like, okay. And then you can tell me
30:58
Speaker 3: they're gonna trade Jamal and Ag I'd be like, Okay.
31:01
Speaker 3: I guess both of those things could happen. No idea.
31:04
Speaker 3: The likelihood of the latter is very slim at this point.
31:07
Speaker 3: Oh yeah again, I think if Jamal gets traded, this
31:10
Speaker 3: isn't gonna be like a pops out of nowhere trade.
31:13
Speaker 3: You're gonna hear a thing or two about it before him.
31:15
Speaker 1: Well, And the reason I say the likelihood is not
31:17
Speaker 1: theirs because I think if.
31:18
Speaker 3: You make that big trade, you get something back.
31:23
Speaker 1: And that's something back is like first round pick or two,
31:27
Speaker 1: and the first round is already over. Well unless you
31:32
Speaker 1: have a player, unless you have a player that was
31:34
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round that you really want.
31:35
Speaker 3: That depending on who you trust here the Celtics and
31:39
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, he's being dangled.
31:44
Speaker 2: No, they love him now, so no, no, no, no no.
31:48
Speaker 2: I heard Brad Stephen say it, all right, he's a
31:51
Speaker 2: big part of us. We value He's a valued guy.
31:54
Speaker 3: Fact checker. Next time, do you guys see what Sanford did?
31:56
Speaker 3: By the way, Sandford is feeling himself so much much
32:00
Speaker 3: after correctly nailing the date of when the Rockies would
32:04
Speaker 3: win the thirtieth game, he has decided he's going to
32:06
Speaker 3: do it again. He's now made a prediction for the
32:10
Speaker 3: sixty third win of the year, the one that breaks
32:14
Speaker 3: the one hundred loss mark.
32:17
Speaker 1: All right, let me think when when's he got this
32:19
Speaker 1: one out there? I would I don't know when he
32:21
Speaker 1: estimated this. I'm going to go with September thirteenth.
32:28
Speaker 3: He has September twenty fifth, Friday at the Chicago White Sox.
32:34
Speaker 3: That is game won sixty, by the way, So they're
32:37
Speaker 3: pushing it right up to the border. But I gotta
32:40
Speaker 3: tell you, if Sanford does this, I know this was
32:43
Speaker 3: a dark, dark, dark time in our nation's history. I
32:49
Speaker 3: will burn him like a witch. I will do it.
32:53
Speaker 3: I will tie him to a post and I will
32:56
Speaker 3: light it on fire.
32:57
Speaker 2: Can I explin my Dina?
32:58
Speaker 3: No?
32:59
Speaker 2: See here the thing? What happened to Icarus? Bro?
33:05
Speaker 3: He flew too close to the sub way way? Too close?
33:10
Speaker 2: Old coach has as got an Icarus complex right now? Yep,
33:15
Speaker 2: he's flying too close to the prediction. Sun, you nailed
33:19
Speaker 2: it beyond belief with number one. That is not going
33:23
Speaker 2: to happen again. In fact, I would think the Denver
33:26
Speaker 2: Nuggets have a better chance in the second round tonight
33:30
Speaker 2: if snagging another three times MVP, three time MVP in
33:38
Speaker 2: the second round than he has of getting this one correct.
33:42
Speaker 3: What would be if I went to a sports book
33:44
Speaker 3: and I said, what is more likely that our own
33:47
Speaker 3: Mike Sanford nails the exact win date again, or that
33:53
Speaker 3: you find another Nikola Jokic in the second round of
33:55
Speaker 3: the draft. It would be close. It'd be very close. Now,
33:59
Speaker 3: let me ask you guys a question. Rocks lose last night,
34:03
Speaker 3: got a chance to win the series today? In the
34:05
Speaker 3: getaway game, there is five to two to the Red Sox.
34:09
Speaker 3: They're currently thirty one and forty nine thirty one and
34:13
Speaker 3: forty nine through eighty games.
34:18
Speaker 2: So basically he's predicting they're gonna skid even more as
34:21
Speaker 2: the year goes on.
34:24
Speaker 3: I mean, basically they're right on pace. No, they're pa
34:27
Speaker 3: It's basically the game today will make it the midway point,
34:31
Speaker 3: right any one eighty one? Yeah, it's the midway point,
34:34
Speaker 3: so thirty one wins would get you to sixty two.
34:36
Speaker 3: I mean they're right on pace for it. Do you
34:41
Speaker 3: think as we sit right now, the Rockies were on
34:45
Speaker 3: pace for it? Looks like sixty two and one hundred.
34:49
Speaker 3: Will the Rockies lose less than one hundred games this year? Yes,
34:54
Speaker 3: they're directly on the line.
34:56
Speaker 2: I think I think they'll lose in the nineties because
34:59
Speaker 2: I just think that these young guys are getting more experience.
35:03
Speaker 2: It's gonna help a little bit, a little more, it's
35:05
Speaker 2: gonna help a little bit as you get the dog
35:08
Speaker 2: days of August.
35:09
Speaker 1: But Moje, they may trade off a bunch of really good,
35:12
Speaker 1: good players.
35:13
Speaker 3: They could, but aren't.
35:16
Speaker 2: These guys you can build with. I like I'm looking,
35:20
Speaker 2: I'm looking up and down the line I'm talking about.
35:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna say, I'll make the proclamation
35:32
Speaker 3: right now. I'm gonna Ezekiel, this is the year the
35:37
Speaker 3: hundred lost streak stops. Our boys can get to sixty
35:41
Speaker 3: three wins. They can do it. They can, I believe it.
35:44
Speaker 3: But it is amazing. They are literally right on the
35:47
Speaker 3: pace for one hundred lost season, right on the line
35:51
Speaker 3: right now. What are you gonna say it?
35:55
Speaker 1: You know, I'm reading a little bit about this Austin
35:57
Speaker 1: Reeves thing with the Lakers, and I'm sorry to go
35:59
Speaker 1: there again, but it's newsworthy for this. So if they
36:03
Speaker 1: just extended and gave Reeves his max contract, and they're
36:08
Speaker 1: expected to bring back Lebron, right we don't know for sure,
36:11
Speaker 1: but we've heard whispers, rumors, reports that Lebron will returned
36:17
Speaker 1: to the Lakers, and he ain't gonna come cheap, mind you.
36:19
Speaker 3: He's not gonna do it for the minimum.
36:23
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way then they'll have enough
36:25
Speaker 1: money to throw at Peyton Watson, which is good news
36:29
Speaker 1: for the Nuggets.
36:32
Speaker 3: Ummm, Luca, what what? What's Reeve's number again? He's what
36:40
Speaker 3: he's got? The max? Five years, one hundred and eighty
36:42
Speaker 3: five million. Okay, so forty easy. Just go to spot Wreck.
36:48
Speaker 3: It's not up there yet, at least not the one
36:49
Speaker 3: thirty something per it's four years one hundred and eighty
36:53
Speaker 3: five million. Sorry, oh oh oh what four years one
36:56
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five or time a what that's forty
36:58
Speaker 3: forty five ish somewhere there. So he'd be at around
37:02
Speaker 3: forty five. Luke is at fifty three, Lebron would be
37:06
Speaker 3: around fifty. I mean, yeah, it's a lot. They could
37:11
Speaker 3: do it. They really don't have people under long term
37:13
Speaker 3: contracts there. Everybody else is like depending on what they
37:18
Speaker 3: don't want to do with, like Ruy, or depending on
37:20
Speaker 3: what they want to do with uh Luke, Cannard and
37:23
Speaker 3: guys like that. Sure, Ruey's a free agent. What's Ruey making?
37:26
Speaker 3: He made eighteen point two this year.
37:29
Speaker 1: Well, then that's the kind of money that they would
37:30
Speaker 1: be able to offer to Peyton Watson.
37:32
Speaker 3: Yeah. I you know what, I'm really unconcerned with Peyton
37:38
Speaker 3: Watson potentially leaving. I don't think it happens. I think
37:42
Speaker 3: the Nuggets have made a priority off of keeping him.
37:45
Speaker 3: And look, he's not a free agent. He is restricted. Now, Yes,
37:51
Speaker 3: that could come with what is one team willing to offer.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be crazy, though, I
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Speaker 3: really don't. Who was just signed for about twenty five
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Speaker 3: million or not to long ago or twenty two and
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Speaker 3: a half just got that A couple of n dis
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Speaker 3: soon move.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think he's dissumed the range and that's what teams
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Speaker 3: would be willing to offer, and I think the Nuggets
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Speaker 3: would be more than welcoming that.
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Speaker 2: What's interesting in the NBA, if somebody signs away you're
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Speaker 2: restricted free agents, you get no compensation.
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Speaker 3: It's just the chance to match, correct, Yeah, the chance
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Speaker 3: to match.
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Speaker 2: The In the NHL, depending on the size of the contract,
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Speaker 2: you can match, yeah, or and you get compensation.
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Speaker 3: NFL you get compicks. Yeah, Now, depending on how I
38:37
Speaker 3: don't know how they evaluate that, how they determine whether
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Speaker 3: a guy's a second round compick, a third round compick
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Speaker 3: a fourth.
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Speaker 2: In the NHL, the picks are all about the value
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Speaker 2: of the contra is the content, how much money they are,
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Speaker 2: and there's just tears.
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Speaker 3: I see, I see, well, I just I'm very unconcerned.
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Speaker 3: I would say with the prospect of him leaving, I
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Speaker 3: don't everything that I have seen from the Nuggets. They
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Speaker 3: are acting as if they are a team that is
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Speaker 3: willing to do maybe not whatever it takes, but pretty
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Speaker 3: close to whatever it takes to keep them here, you know,
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Speaker 3: in the same sense, I keep seeing Moses and I think,
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Speaker 3: I think it's silly. I don't know what you think.
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Speaker 3: The Avs are getting dragged over this bone byrum trade saying, well,
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Speaker 3: you traded that guy for middle stat who became this
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Speaker 3: guy who became Kevin Brindley, and then he gets traded
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Speaker 3: for a fourth overall pick and a forty fifth overall pick.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you can look at the trades that way,
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Speaker 3: depending on what the you have to look at the
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Speaker 3: situation that the Avs were in, right, that is correct
39:38
Speaker 3: situation the As were in was we're trying to win
39:41
Speaker 3: a championship, our best route towards that is getting a
39:43
Speaker 3: second line center post. Nozam Kadri that we tried correct
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Speaker 3: and you couldn't find it. It just look middle stat
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Speaker 3: was bad. So that doesn't help anything. But the intention
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Speaker 3: of it, I think was correct.
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Speaker 2: I completely agree. You're trying to win now, I mean
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Speaker 2: you're they didn't trade bow and Byron because they didn't
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Speaker 2: think he would be a good player or wasn't a
40:04
Speaker 2: good player.
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Speaker 3: If the Avs had the fourth overall pick this year,
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Speaker 3: would they traded for bow and Byron? Right now?
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Speaker 2: Uh? No, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, okay, because Byrom's got and
40:18
Speaker 3: you said it, he wanted to be on a team
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Speaker 3: where he could play.
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Speaker 2: You know that he wants he wants to run the
40:22
Speaker 2: power play man.
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Speaker 3: Yep, and that wasn't available here if he was still here,
40:26
Speaker 3: and if he's if.
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Speaker 2: He's running, he had forty had forty two points this.
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Speaker 3: Year, Yeah, forty two.
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Speaker 2: If he's running a team's number one power play unit.
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Speaker 2: How many more points you want to add on to that?
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Speaker 2: Maybe you add on fifteen more.
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Speaker 3: Points, yes, fifteen or two?
40:39
Speaker 2: Now and all of a sudden he becomes a you know,
40:42
Speaker 2: upper fifties defenseman point wise, maybe a little bit more
40:44
Speaker 2: than that if he's getting all that time.
40:47
Speaker 3: So the top defenseman in NHL points this last season,
40:50
Speaker 3: Bouchard had ninety five.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
40:52
Speaker 3: Wrinsky had eighty one.
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Speaker 2: These are all these are all number one power play guys.
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Speaker 3: Car seventy nine, Hudson seventy eight, Hughes.
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Speaker 2: The same thing. These are all number one power play guys. Yep. Now,
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Speaker 2: if he thinks he's that, good for him, he ain't that.
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Speaker 2: He ain't those.
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Speaker 3: Guys, you don't think so with extra opportunity.
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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think Nokay, No, I don't
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Speaker 2: think he's a he's the.
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Speaker 3: One, A huge prospect initially, ain't no doubt about it.
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I think I'm gonna cap him.
41:22
Speaker 2: I'd cap him somewhere sixty points.
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Speaker 3: Okay, which is still which is still a hell of
41:27
Speaker 3: a player.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but you're talking about you're talking about
41:30
Speaker 2: really special.
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Speaker 5: Earlier today, there was some debate about how you pronounced
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Speaker 5: the name of the US men's soccer coach. Is it
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Speaker 5: Morricio Pochettino, Pochettino, Bogdon, Bogdan, big Don, Bagdon, Well ild
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Speaker 5: a clip of him in an interview saying his name
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Speaker 5: and Vic, I'm gonna give you partial credit.
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Speaker 3: How do you pronounce Pochettino?
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Speaker 2: No, so you Setino? Yes, Petino?
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Speaker 3: Is he is Italian name in Italia is a Pocketino.
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Speaker 3: I like Moreino, so thank you.
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Speaker 5: So he's Q He's Argentinian, so he admits that in
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Speaker 5: Italy would be pronounced different, but he does ch.
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Speaker 3: And itianas Pocatino.
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Speaker 1: For all you yahoos who said I'm pronouncing Pocatino, he
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Speaker 1: pronounces it Pochettino.
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Speaker 3: Fine, still we're wrong.
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Speaker 2: Be done.
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Speaker 3: He just gave you a technicality. It's not a technicality.
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Speaker 3: It's like Nicola and Nicola, same thing. They're both right.
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Speaker 1: Nicola answers to both because he doesn't care. Now, all
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Speaker 1: I know is this Pochettino got is a huge Broncos fan.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. I don't think you know that. Thank you. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: if you guys missed it, this is what it sounds
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Speaker 3: like when you got a Broncos jersey. Oh, thank you
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Speaker 3: so much, wow, so beautiful guys. Thank you, thank you,
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Speaker 3: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Let me
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Speaker 3: ask you a legitimate question. Yeah, does he have any
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Speaker 3: idea what that jersey was?
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but listen, coming from a non
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Speaker 1: English speaking household, all right, I didn't speak English.
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Speaker 3: I was eight years old. I'm still curious how you
43:35
Speaker 3: go from the th h, thank you to thank you?
43:39
Speaker 3: How do you get there? How do you go from
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Speaker 3: thank you to thank you?
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Speaker 2: Especially in Spanish when they do the ol fable thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know how you how you see that?
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Speaker 3: And immediately the brain goes.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Brett Brett, a professional soccer guy from Argentina with
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Speaker 2: an Italian name has been a huge Broncos fanaus whole life,
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Speaker 2: real big.
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Speaker 3: But did he have any idea what team that was?
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Speaker 3: Or did he just see a jersey and he goes cool? Thanks?
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Speaker 2: What is the I don't even know what.
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Speaker 3: If he didn't say thanks, he said sinks if you
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Speaker 3: if you gave me, I'll make you a promise if
44:19
Speaker 3: I get a jersey of Jonas valentiunas his new team
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Speaker 3: back in his homeland, whoever he's playing for. I'll have
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Speaker 3: no idea what that team is or what that jersey represents,
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Speaker 3: but I will say thank you. There it is love It,
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Speaker 3: got it iTunes, Spotify, Muslim Body and can't have a
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Speaker 3: great Wednesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow. I love you,
44:43
Speaker 3: see him, sink you you, thank you,