Latest / The Breakfast Club / Best of full interview: Mario Talks Growth, Going Song For Song With Ray J, Interracial Relationship, New Album + More
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day a waiting click, yours up the Breakfast Club
- 0:05Speaker 1: finish for y'all done morning.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Everybody is d J n V, Jess, Hilary, Charlamagne, the
- 0:11Speaker 2: guy we are the Breakfast Club.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Law La Ros is here as well.
- 0:13Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building.
- 0:19Speaker 3: What's that? What's that?
- 0:20Speaker 4: How you feeling?
- 0:22Speaker 3: How you doing that right now?
- 0:24Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 0:24Speaker 3: I'm good, bro, I'm good. Back of the roll Back
- 0:27Speaker 3: on tour. Yeah, on tour right now, Moose Wings. You
- 0:29Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. The new ep out on tour,
- 0:32Speaker 3: it's been amazing. I won't say you're want to start
- 0:34Speaker 3: right now? You shook that man saying that man front.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Of you the other day, but he said what he said, Jess,
- 0:42Speaker 2: that can beat him universe.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Yes, I mean you know he had that.
- 0:47Speaker 3: You know he had to be on music.
- 0:49Speaker 5: I ain't talking about singing. I'm not talking about like this.
- 0:51Speaker 5: I'm not talking about singing vocally. Yes, music, you think
- 0:56Speaker 5: they lost his mind?
- 0:57Speaker 4: You ain't let him on that stage, was going to
- 0:59Speaker 4: have and.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Yeah you said I didn't let him on stand wanted
- 1:05Speaker 3: to do right not there? You can ask ray Je
- 1:07Speaker 3: what happened backstage? I was like, yo, let's do it.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Let's make it happen. He was like, nigga, shrink me.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Just just I don't care what you do, just don't
- 1:14Speaker 3: just just make it happen. I'm like, I didn't even
- 1:16Speaker 3: know he was gonna be there bad.
- 1:17Speaker 4: I got you.
- 1:18Speaker 3: They didn't let him on stage. It wasn't me.
- 1:20Speaker 4: That's not story, Reje story was. I wanted to do
- 1:23Speaker 4: the verses right then tomorrow.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Out of all people, you trust Red's story. Damn you
- 1:31Speaker 3: trust Rege story people. I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:36Speaker 3: I didn't know what was happening back there, like it
- 1:38Speaker 3: was a plan and then it did happen. So you
- 1:40Speaker 3: know what, you know each other again.
- 1:44Speaker 4: I know why they keep sleeping on.
- 1:46Speaker 3: You, why they keep sleeping on me.
- 1:48Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Vocally, hold on, you said, hold on? We got he did.
- 1:52Speaker 1: He said what he said, three and the possible.
- 1:56Speaker 4: I don't think you can fuck with.
- 1:57Speaker 6: You crazy about ten six.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's kind of crazy, bro.
- 2:04Speaker 4: But by the way, one he said one song for one.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Song, and he said new music because he can only
- 2:10Speaker 3: do run songs that really like really like people be like,
- 2:14Speaker 3: that's a strong because versus you got It's like it
- 2:17Speaker 3: gotta be strong. You gotta have some strong it's not
- 2:19Speaker 3: you know that, it's not a joke. If you're going
- 2:21Speaker 3: with the right you're going against the right person. You
- 2:23Speaker 3: gotta have strong records. People people you don't know how
- 2:26Speaker 3: they're gonna be feeling that day. They might want the
- 2:28Speaker 3: song one day. One day it might be like that's
- 2:29Speaker 3: better what people aren't consistent.
- 2:32Speaker 7: But you can do one of those three times because
- 2:33Speaker 7: technically definitely, but he only got one wish and then
- 2:38Speaker 7: but you can do it three times and then you
- 2:41Speaker 7: no for sure he got got Wait a minute.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Bro, he got a couple of records, bro, Bro, and
- 2:46Speaker 3: then what but like they're not timeless, classic records that
- 2:50Speaker 3: make you feel like it's just a different Just stop
- 2:53Speaker 3: taking me out of these conversations, bro. Honestly, I gotta
- 2:56Speaker 3: stop taking out of these conversations. You know what I'm saying.
- 2:59Speaker 3: I get passionate and about it and I love all
- 3:01Speaker 3: my peers. Well, like you know what I'm saying, The
- 3:02Speaker 3: internet shit is the Internet shit?
- 3:04Speaker 4: Like whatever?
- 3:04Speaker 3: But like y'a, I got to put me in different conversations.
- 3:07Speaker 3: But I get I get that, you know. During my hiatus,
- 3:10Speaker 3: like I've had to prove, like remind people that yo,
- 3:14Speaker 3: like I really God put me in this because the
- 3:16Speaker 3: gift is really there. My persistence and my ability to
- 3:21Speaker 3: continue to push and continue to put out music is
- 3:23Speaker 3: still there. My passion is still there. I'm still hungry,
- 3:27Speaker 3: you know. I take it serious, you know, but I
- 3:30Speaker 3: think some people are like Internet, have fun on the Internet,
- 3:32Speaker 3: and then some people really take it serious. I'm one
- 3:34Speaker 3: of those that take I.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Think people forget because of your hiatus, right, And the
- 3:38Speaker 2: reason I say that because I forgot and we went
- 3:40Speaker 2: on to that and shit, we went on like an
- 3:41Speaker 2: R and B tool and I DJ for Mario doing
- 3:44Speaker 2: that tool. Fact, and when you understand when we're playing
- 3:47Speaker 2: six songs in those deck, fifteen thousand, arena is singing
- 3:51Speaker 2: them six songs, but.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Only because we only got fifteen minutes. We would play
- 3:54Speaker 3: more music. But yeah, go ahead and say.
- 3:56Speaker 2: But the six songs, you understand, It's like, oh, I
- 3:58Speaker 2: get it there, and that's why you said it.
- 4:01Speaker 4: I'm like the other day when he was playing, I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 4:04Speaker 4: I forgot that. Oh yeah, I did forget that one.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, now it happens. I think it's natural, you know.
- 4:09Speaker 3: I saw your interview with Mike the other day, I
- 4:11Speaker 3: was like, Yo, it was a great interview because he
- 4:13Speaker 3: made some good points about people forget you know, you
- 4:15Speaker 3: got to remind people. And I think that it's just
- 4:18Speaker 3: the way of the Internet as well as just like
- 4:21Speaker 3: this this new world of like everybody's receiving stuff so fast,
- 4:24Speaker 3: and it's like, if you don't put music out for
- 4:26Speaker 3: six months, nigga, you where you've been at, you know
- 4:28Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But for us as artists, a six months,
- 4:30Speaker 3: that's that's a small campaign. It might take, especially in
- 4:33Speaker 3: R and B, it might take six months for people
- 4:34Speaker 3: to even though you got a joint, that's that's heating up,
- 4:37Speaker 3: you know. But that's just a part of the process.
- 4:40Speaker 4: You've been against. You were a teenager.
- 4:42Speaker 5: What's something the grown version that you had to unlearned
- 4:45Speaker 5: from the young version of you.
- 4:51Speaker 3: A lot of things, bro, But I would start with,
- 4:53Speaker 3: you know, not falling in love with my creation, meaning
- 4:57Speaker 3: you know, when when you create music and you put
- 4:59Speaker 3: it out the world, you gotta let it go. You know.
- 5:02Speaker 3: You got to let the people that connect with the
- 5:04Speaker 3: music and connect with what you're doing connect with it,
- 5:07Speaker 3: and you got to keep creating like keep creating, don't
- 5:10Speaker 3: pigeonhole yourself to oh you got to make another hit
- 5:13Speaker 3: like let Me Love You, you gotta make it. It's really just
- 5:15Speaker 3: about evolving, bro, because there's so many other things that
- 5:17Speaker 3: happening in life as to why the music sound the
- 5:19Speaker 3: way it does now. Right, mood Swings is a completely
- 5:22Speaker 3: different vibe from Glad You Can, which I released just
- 5:24Speaker 3: a year ago, completely different energy, work with completely different people.
- 5:28Speaker 3: My my creativity is in a different place. So really
- 5:31Speaker 3: just being free in the creative process because we're in
- 5:34Speaker 3: a world now where it's about exploring. I was talking
- 5:38Speaker 3: to one unexact yesterday and we were talking about, you
- 5:40Speaker 3: know how different the game is even for labels, Like
- 5:44Speaker 3: labels now have to play a different game. If they're
- 5:46Speaker 3: not in the game of having a movie sinks their songs,
- 5:50Speaker 3: sing the movie their songs, you know, as many places
- 5:53Speaker 3: as possible that they own. They're not going to have
- 5:56Speaker 3: the lion share sometimes, you know, so it's like you
- 5:58Speaker 3: have to tech even like, you know, investing in different things.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Even though Doctor Dredam they already did that, right. They
- 6:04Speaker 3: was like, Yo, we want to show you all how
- 6:05Speaker 3: to get this music money. But we want show you
- 6:06Speaker 3: how to also have some headphones and some speakers, and
- 6:09Speaker 3: so it's just about being as versat though mentally as
- 6:12Speaker 3: possible so that all these other opportunities can attract you.
- 6:14Speaker 3: That's where I'm at now.
- 6:16Speaker 8: Are you like picking up the phone and calling where
- 6:18Speaker 8: you're going through the process of like I gotta re
- 6:21Speaker 8: remind people or I'm trying to make this sound different
- 6:23Speaker 8: than that and not chase that record. But ego wise,
- 6:26Speaker 8: like there has to be a part of Mario that's
- 6:28Speaker 8: like this has to be big because I'm Mario, Like
- 6:30Speaker 8: who coaches you through those battles?
- 6:32Speaker 1: Coaches me? Just a god?
- 6:34Speaker 3: Honestly, God, I'm gonna be honest with you because you know,
- 6:38Speaker 3: I think a lot of people that's around me every
- 6:40Speaker 3: day they just believe in me. You know, they're they're
- 6:43Speaker 3: they're believe they get they tell me real shit, but
- 6:46Speaker 3: they believe in me, and it's like they understand how
- 6:48Speaker 3: strong I am mentally. But that's no person that I
- 6:52Speaker 3: call to ask advice about those types of things, because
- 6:55Speaker 3: I think that my journey is my journey and I
- 6:57Speaker 3: just have to trust God and I gotta trust the
- 6:59Speaker 3: people that I entrust creatively, right so when I went
- 7:02Speaker 3: to the studio to start mood Swings, me and my
- 7:04Speaker 3: boy Dre More, who I met through one of my managers,
- 7:06Speaker 3: ak with three six five. We've been on each other
- 7:09Speaker 3: for years, Like he did a bunch of future records,
- 7:11Speaker 3: but he never hopped into his R and B back.
- 7:13Speaker 3: He's always wanted to. I say, Yo, let's less less like,
- 7:16Speaker 3: I want to hop into this darker, moodier part of
- 7:18Speaker 3: me as an R and B artist that's like moody
- 7:20Speaker 3: and still musical and R and B, but just like
- 7:23Speaker 3: more authentic. And so he was like, Yo, let's get
- 7:26Speaker 3: in a studio, let's go, and it was it was
- 7:27Speaker 3: like working with a friend. Is somebody that you go
- 7:31Speaker 3: over their house, they come over your house. You know,
- 7:33Speaker 3: they kids, you know they family, but y'are both really
- 7:35Speaker 3: young ghosts. It's different than working with somebody that's like,
- 7:38Speaker 3: I'm a fan of your music. I've always want to
- 7:40Speaker 3: work with you, but I don't know where you live,
- 7:42Speaker 3: I don't know you know what you're into us. It's
- 7:44Speaker 3: a different thing and the foundation is there, so that
- 7:47Speaker 3: to me and I trust the team that I work
- 7:50Speaker 3: with and we just make the music that we love.
- 7:52Speaker 3: We going to studio. We might go in a studio
- 7:54Speaker 3: and play verses with ourselves, like yo, you play your
- 7:56Speaker 3: favorite five records ever, and I'm gonna play mine against
- 7:58Speaker 3: yours and that inspires to get the studio session started.
- 8:01Speaker 4: But you won't do that though.
- 8:05Speaker 3: I'm trying to. They don't want no smoke with me
- 8:07Speaker 3: on any level. He knows that's why he got to
- 8:09Speaker 3: always you know, he's a major troller. Though It's like,
- 8:13Speaker 3: how do you how do you how do you execute
- 8:16Speaker 3: a major troller? Even if you execute him, he gonna
- 8:19Speaker 3: come back from.
- 8:19Speaker 4: The dead.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Undertake it did not take it personal?
- 8:25Speaker 3: What did you realize that? And not take a personal
- 8:27Speaker 3: real nigga ship, because it's different from like and I
- 8:30Speaker 3: had other people that like hit me really got on
- 8:34Speaker 3: some really some sissy ship. But like ray J, like
- 8:38Speaker 3: like we we talk, you feel me. So it's like
- 8:41Speaker 3: he can say some wild ship and I might say
- 8:42Speaker 3: some wild ship the next day. But it's like he's
- 8:45Speaker 3: a major troller, so he gonna go deep in the
- 8:48Speaker 3: quicksand whereas I got this ship go on, I'm on
- 8:49Speaker 3: tour right now. It's like, you know what I'm saying,
- 8:51Speaker 3: ain't gonna go that deep in the quicksand but yeah,
- 8:53Speaker 3: it's whatever.
- 8:54Speaker 4: Mario was mad too.
- 8:55Speaker 3: He was pissed off.
- 8:55Speaker 4: It is like he.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Was, you know, it's crazy. Can I be honest? Yes?
- 9:02Speaker 4: No?
- 9:02Speaker 3: No, no, honesty is that all we were doing is have
- 9:06Speaker 3: a conversation about things y'all have, but nobody don't really
- 9:09Speaker 3: talk about it all the way. We're just having a
- 9:12Speaker 3: conversation the same ship everybody do. People in the comments
- 9:16Speaker 3: actually went crazy on everybody else spoke about or answer
- 9:19Speaker 3: the question about. Then I did like you giving niggas
- 9:23Speaker 3: too much grades and it's like, damn is it that serious?
- 9:25Speaker 3: Why is it that serious?
- 9:26Speaker 4: Because you're an artist can actually And I'm sure they
- 9:31Speaker 4: looked at like that Mario dope and ship, but he
- 9:33Speaker 4: don't feel the same way.
- 9:36Speaker 3: That's crazy, Like everybody got strengths and weaknesses, like if somebody,
- 9:41Speaker 3: if somebody can dance, they ass off and they asked
- 9:44Speaker 3: somebody question like yo, who the who out of these
- 9:46Speaker 3: people gonna ask who can dance and who can't? Let's
- 9:48Speaker 3: just say always on that he was like, yo, can
- 9:51Speaker 3: Mario danced? He was like miss I would laugh, I
- 9:54Speaker 3: would laugh. I would be like, damn, he right, because
- 9:57Speaker 3: I don't because that's the But they know him for dancing, right,
- 10:02Speaker 3: they know that's his craft, right, So that's you know,
- 10:06Speaker 3: it's just niggas take shit too serious. Bro.
- 10:07Speaker 8: So y'all haven't spoken since he said he's not gonna
- 10:10Speaker 8: do no more songs with you or any collapse with you.
- 10:12Speaker 3: I seen him at the Ebony event and we were
- 10:13Speaker 3: sitting at the same table.
- 10:15Speaker 6: Yeah that's what. I was literally right next to y'all.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what he did when when it
- 10:20Speaker 3: was recording all.
- 10:20Speaker 6: That so the time, so okay.
- 10:22Speaker 3: One after that, I don't see him after that anything him. Yeah, okay,
- 10:26Speaker 3: because I'm like, he's saying nothing to me about it.
- 10:29Speaker 6: That's right.
- 10:30Speaker 3: If I really feel some type of listen everything I love,
- 10:33Speaker 3: if I really feel some type of way about something,
- 10:35Speaker 3: somebody said, I'm gonna pull him to the side something
- 10:38Speaker 3: I might not say that from everybody. I'm gonna figure
- 10:40Speaker 3: out a way to get it off my chest. I
- 10:42Speaker 3: didn't know. I had no idea he felt some type
- 10:44Speaker 3: of way about about that. You know what I'm saying.
- 10:48Speaker 3: I've had days where I've been hitting miss Nigga on stage.
- 10:51Speaker 3: I don't always hit every note the same every night. Like, nigga,
- 10:53Speaker 3: let's be real. We gotta be real. I have fun
- 10:56Speaker 3: and like not take it too serious. Bro, Listen, we
- 10:58Speaker 3: were young black, We are opportunity. We still hear bro
- 11:02Speaker 3: twenty four years later, like we still here is a blessing.
- 11:04Speaker 4: But what do you feel?
- 11:06Speaker 7: Like?
- 11:06Speaker 9: Mark mood swings, right, so you up and down on that.
- 11:10Speaker 9: This is like move love angry.
- 11:13Speaker 3: It's a mixture of like love, you know, It's really
- 11:19Speaker 3: a conversation. It's a conversation. When I started mood Swings,
- 11:22Speaker 3: it was just about nineties R and B vibes. And
- 11:27Speaker 3: when I think of the word mood swings, I think
- 11:29Speaker 3: of nineties R and B. I think about two thousands
- 11:31Speaker 3: of R and B and I'm like, Yo, how do
- 11:33Speaker 3: we take that feeling and like update it? And this
- 11:37Speaker 3: was like the approach, And then I would have, like
- 11:39Speaker 3: a couple of Dre Mornen executive produced it. We're with
- 11:42Speaker 3: a lot of great producers are here. But yeah, the
- 11:45Speaker 3: conversations are different. And also the textures of what I
- 11:48Speaker 3: singing is different. Like I got a song called fortune
- 11:50Speaker 3: Cookie in there that I've never spoken like this before.
- 11:53Speaker 3: But the actual texture of the way I'm using my
- 11:55Speaker 3: voice a song called Moan. Same way, I'm giving you
- 11:58Speaker 3: different moves of who I am as an R and
- 12:00Speaker 3: B artist, How I think about intimacy, how I think
- 12:02Speaker 3: about love, and just you know, just talking my shit. Honestly,
- 12:06Speaker 3: fortune cookie damn man with Asian women, that's crazy. It
- 12:13Speaker 3: wasn't an Asian woman. It's just it's just women in general.
- 12:15Speaker 3: I think women are like fortune cookies, bro. Like, you know,
- 12:18Speaker 3: it's like you never know what you're gonna get if
- 12:21Speaker 3: you really dive in and really get to know a
- 12:23Speaker 3: woman on those more intimate levels, you know. And it's
- 12:27Speaker 3: something that I've always prided myself phon wone getting to
- 12:30Speaker 3: know somebody. I'm in a relationship now, and I'm still
- 12:32Speaker 3: learning my girl. I'm still learning like how to unlock
- 12:35Speaker 3: certain parts of her and and you know, how to
- 12:39Speaker 3: make her feel safe in moments where I'm not around,
- 12:41Speaker 3: and like, just so many elements to having a relationship
- 12:45Speaker 3: with a woman, whether you're just a friend or whether
- 12:47Speaker 3: you're in something deep like I am. It's just you
- 12:49Speaker 3: never know what you're gonna get. You gotta crack the open.
- 12:51Speaker 3: A fortune Cookie, obviously, record goes a little deeper into
- 12:53Speaker 3: something like that more intimate shit, but like, yeah.
- 12:55Speaker 8: How did your girlfriend deal with all of the like
- 12:58Speaker 8: being Mario's girlfriend? Everything it's public? Like when you post
- 13:01Speaker 8: to her, there's like such a big response because they're like,
- 13:04Speaker 8: she's not a black woman, Like how she deal with
- 13:05Speaker 8: seeing stuff like that?
- 13:07Speaker 3: I think that she she's a very like analytical person
- 13:10Speaker 3: like me, Like she dives into things to understand the
- 13:12Speaker 3: psychology behind it and like like what's the what what
- 13:15Speaker 3: does it really mean? She understood to a certain degree,
- 13:19Speaker 3: but she's also human, you know. So we've had conversations.
- 13:22Speaker 3: She's like I clap back at people. Before she clapp
- 13:26Speaker 3: back at a couple of people, I'm like, yo, just
- 13:27Speaker 3: don't don't even don't let it, you know. And then
- 13:30Speaker 3: once that first initition would happened, she was like, oh, okay,
- 13:32Speaker 3: I get enough. And I told her, you know, it's
- 13:34Speaker 3: it's one of those things where people until they understand
- 13:37Speaker 3: that you got something real, people hate you before they
- 13:40Speaker 3: love you, you know what I'm saying sometimes and that
- 13:42Speaker 3: and that they don't even have to know you, right,
- 13:44Speaker 3: but then there's a lot of support I don't want.
- 13:46Speaker 3: And I think sometimes the internet, like the dark and
- 13:49Speaker 3: the ugly shit get more highlighted than the love. Right
- 13:52Speaker 3: even with me, sometimes I see all these love you know,
- 13:55Speaker 3: I love what you're doing. We know you love black women,
- 13:57Speaker 3: we know, and then at one or two comments that's
- 14:00Speaker 3: like dark, You're like, you know, and that's just human nature, right,
- 14:06Speaker 3: So we just work and do it together. It's my
- 14:09Speaker 3: first like real public relationship in this way, whereas though,
- 14:13Speaker 3: like the picture, we were going on vacation for my
- 14:16Speaker 3: birthday and we had took some pictures that she posted
- 14:19Speaker 3: a picture of her pregnant on her page before I did.
- 14:23Speaker 3: But her page is probably like babe, nobody's gonna say.
- 14:25Speaker 3: I'm like, babe, I'm go ahead right next thing, you
- 14:28Speaker 3: know is you know. So I was trying to tell
- 14:31Speaker 3: her like you know, but I was I'm not ashamed
- 14:33Speaker 3: of it. So it's like, yo, go ahead and do
- 14:34Speaker 3: your thing. And so it was beautiful, Like I'm really
- 14:36Speaker 3: proud that I'm able to say, out of all the
- 14:40Speaker 3: men in my family, especially on my mom's side, like
- 14:43Speaker 3: that I can give my son something that I didn't have.
- 14:46Speaker 3: You know, when he touches, when he incarnates on his planet,
- 14:50Speaker 3: he's going to have a different life than I had.
- 14:52Speaker 3: I'm proud of that, you know, and the growing pains
- 14:56Speaker 3: of being an artist who's now more open with his life.
- 15:00Speaker 3: I should have did this seven years ago, ten years ago,
- 15:03Speaker 3: but now I'm being more open. So this is the
- 15:04Speaker 3: part is the part of it. You got to go
- 15:06Speaker 3: through it. I'm ready, come on, iratulations to you real quick, girl.
- 15:13Speaker 3: I want to give you your flowers. I'm so proud of you, Jess.
- 15:16Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. Know where we come from.
- 15:19Speaker 3: You know, you're raising a young king, you got another
- 15:22Speaker 3: baby that you just had, You're married now get married
- 15:26Speaker 3: now like you're doing your thing, and I'm proud of you.
- 15:29Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I love you and I'm
- 15:30Speaker 3: proud of you. You know what I'm saying. I just
- 15:32Speaker 3: wanted to say that. Yeah, for sure.
- 15:34Speaker 5: Do you what do you feel Mario the man has
- 15:35Speaker 5: grown the most compared to Mario the Artist.
- 15:38Speaker 3: That's a great question.
- 15:39Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 15:43Speaker 3: I think that I've been able to shadow working myself
- 15:51Speaker 3: on a more honest and authentic level than I have before,
- 15:57Speaker 3: because not just because I'm about to be a father,
- 16:01Speaker 3: but because I see I see the world around me
- 16:04Speaker 3: changing in ways that I'm like when things get out
- 16:09Speaker 3: of control, if you can't always control how your environment
- 16:14Speaker 3: is going to what's going to happen in the environments
- 16:18Speaker 3: around you. Because when you're an artist, things happen around you.
- 16:22Speaker 3: You have to be exposure. If you want to have success,
- 16:24Speaker 3: you got to be out here, right, And so it's
- 16:26Speaker 3: really important for me to have controlling myself on a
- 16:29Speaker 3: deeper level and control of my emotions and control of
- 16:32Speaker 3: my how I view the world, how I view people,
- 16:36Speaker 3: how I view my relationships with people, getting better at
- 16:39Speaker 3: relationship building because I wasn't good at that as a
- 16:42Speaker 3: young kid and as a young adult, and so just
- 16:46Speaker 3: really doing that shadow work, bro, and also becoming a
- 16:50Speaker 3: better friend to people that I consider important in my
- 16:55Speaker 3: life instead of being like closed off or being like, okay,
- 17:00Speaker 3: I can't trust nobody, like I'm not opening up to
- 17:03Speaker 3: like having a little bit more grace and understanding that, Bro.
- 17:07Speaker 3: With greatness comes the opportunity for leadership. And with the
- 17:11Speaker 3: opportunity for leadership, you're able to actually see the world
- 17:15Speaker 3: from a different space when you take on that role
- 17:17Speaker 3: of being vulnerable and being a leader, which means coming
- 17:22Speaker 3: up with solutions, right, and it could be anything that
- 17:24Speaker 3: could be in work, It could be in your personal life,
- 17:26Speaker 3: it could be for your family, it could be for free.
- 17:28Speaker 3: And I think that that's something that God blessed me
- 17:30Speaker 3: with experiences to get through so that I can help
- 17:33Speaker 3: people come up with solutions, you know. And it could
- 17:35Speaker 3: be small things, Bro. Somebody could call me one day
- 17:37Speaker 3: and be like, Yo, I'm going through this. You know
- 17:39Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I just made my first you know,
- 17:42Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars, Bro, my first time, Like, well, how
- 17:45Speaker 3: should I woo woo? It's like those small things. I
- 17:47Speaker 3: fucked up money before I know how to. I could
- 17:49Speaker 3: give you advice on that. If I can't give you
- 17:51Speaker 3: advice on something, I know somebody who can. Just being
- 17:53Speaker 3: more open and vulnerable about life, man, and knowing that
- 17:57Speaker 3: everybody's not out to hurt you, you know, and that
- 17:59Speaker 3: comes from growth and doing shadow work.
- 18:01Speaker 4: When you first did your shadow work, did your shadow
- 18:03Speaker 4: self scale.
- 18:06Speaker 3: It scared me when I felt like people weren't respecting
- 18:12Speaker 3: the work that I was doing myself, and that triggered me.
- 18:14Speaker 3: It was like, what the fuck is the purpose of
- 18:18Speaker 3: doing it? If nobody cares and they still gonna judge
- 18:21Speaker 3: you they still And it realized, like, yo, Bro, it
- 18:23Speaker 3: doesn't matter if people don't see the work that you're doing.
- 18:26Speaker 3: You can't change their perspective. You can't change how people
- 18:29Speaker 3: see things because they can only understand things on the
- 18:31Speaker 3: level that they're experiencing.
- 18:32Speaker 4: Right.
- 18:32Speaker 3: I was reading this book called the author's name is
- 18:35Speaker 3: called Power Versus Force if you ward of that, But
- 18:37Speaker 3: it's really good, and it basically talks about life by
- 18:44Speaker 3: way of calibration. Like it's from zero to six hundred, right,
- 18:47Speaker 3: so you can have a conversation with your homie about
- 18:50Speaker 3: running down on somebody that might be calibrated at like
- 18:53Speaker 3: a ten or twenty. But then you can have a
- 18:55Speaker 3: conversation about growth and health and building, community building, and
- 19:00Speaker 3: that's calibrated at like a four to fifty five hundred.
- 19:02Speaker 3: And it just talks about how these things affect your body,
- 19:04Speaker 3: how to affect your mind. And I got it from
- 19:07Speaker 3: this chiropractor. But he doesn't do regular chiropractor work. He
- 19:10Speaker 3: does like spiritual chiropractic work. Whereas though he finds where
- 19:14Speaker 3: your traumas are, you know, where you're lying to yourself,
- 19:18Speaker 3: where you're not being honest. On the first time I
- 19:20Speaker 3: worked with him, he brought me He does it like
- 19:24Speaker 3: in his backyard. He lives in la And then he
- 19:28Speaker 3: was like, he said, hold both your arms out. He's like,
- 19:30Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you a question, and you could choose
- 19:34Speaker 3: to tell me the truth or tell me a lie.
- 19:35Speaker 3: The one where I lied on him, my arm got weak,
- 19:39Speaker 3: like literally didn't mind bushit. It was like if it
- 19:42Speaker 3: was like and I knew I was lying. And then
- 19:45Speaker 3: the one where I told the truth, it was like
- 19:46Speaker 3: my arm was steady, it was strong, and I was like, damn,
- 19:49Speaker 3: that's crazy. You don't think that like your body and
- 19:52Speaker 3: your mind and how everything worked, like the truth, even
- 19:56Speaker 3: if it's ugly, it's more powerful than a lot. And
- 20:01Speaker 3: I mean, you could take that in so many different ways.
- 20:02Speaker 3: But I would like to think that I want to
- 20:05Speaker 3: live in a in a space where I can live
- 20:07Speaker 3: as much truth as possible and the lies aren't as
- 20:11Speaker 3: that I tell myself. You know what I'm saying. So
- 20:13Speaker 3: I don't know. All of that stuff is just a
- 20:15Speaker 3: part of my journey.
- 20:16Speaker 4: Now. You talked about the try it. You get that.
- 20:22Speaker 3: Better than I.
- 20:29Speaker 1: We talked about the hiatus.
- 20:30Speaker 2: For most that don't know, during that time, which is
- 20:32Speaker 2: a long time, what was Mariel doing during that time.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know I was exploring. I was exploring
- 20:45Speaker 3: so many things in life, like just really trying to
- 20:47Speaker 3: understand what it was all, what the purpose was, you know,
- 20:49Speaker 3: what's the purpose of relationships, what's the purpose of family,
- 20:53Speaker 3: What's the purpose of me being an artist? What's the
- 20:55Speaker 3: purpose of it? Or why am I here? You know?
- 20:58Speaker 3: What is religion? What is all these things?
- 21:01Speaker 4: You know?
- 21:02Speaker 3: What is fear? What is trauma? What is you know,
- 21:05Speaker 3: why do people choose addiction over going to get help
- 21:09Speaker 3: and really fighting through it? Because it's such a strong
- 21:12Speaker 3: like it's such a strong intention. Like when people are
- 21:17Speaker 3: addicted to something like they will go through anything to
- 21:19Speaker 3: get that fix. You know, how do you transmit that
- 21:24Speaker 3: into something towards something you want to build for yourself
- 21:26Speaker 3: in life? How do you transmit that to your family
- 21:27Speaker 3: and love all life? So it really just started studying
- 21:30Speaker 3: understanding like human behavior right now. I started there and like,
- 21:33Speaker 3: you know, wanted to understand, you know, what was hell?
- 21:37Speaker 3: What is heaven? You know? What is all of this?
- 21:40Speaker 3: Because I got thrown in at such a young age
- 21:43Speaker 3: that I wasn't able to process the death of my grandmother.
- 21:46Speaker 3: I wasn't able to process being adopted. I wasn't able
- 21:48Speaker 3: to process now you're an artist, now you're moving around,
- 21:51Speaker 3: now you're in this world. I wasn't able to process
- 21:53Speaker 3: that and enjoy the process. Like maybe a lot of
- 21:56Speaker 3: other younger artists. I don't know their process, but sometimes
- 21:58Speaker 3: they look happier, right, So I think that at that
- 22:01Speaker 3: time of like, after let me love you, after going
- 22:03Speaker 3: on to our Destiny's Shout, after all these things, it
- 22:05Speaker 3: was like bro, I moved back home and then I
- 22:08Speaker 3: went through another dark moment and I was like, yeah,
- 22:10Speaker 3: I gotta get out of here.
- 22:12Speaker 4: Left.
- 22:12Speaker 3: That's when my process of like getting through everything started,
- 22:16Speaker 3: like processing it, putting it all on the table, being confused,
- 22:19Speaker 3: being hurt, being in the dark, not having nobody around me,
- 22:23Speaker 3: and it just brought me closer to myself and brought
- 22:25Speaker 3: me closer to God. And that's what I started to
- 22:27Speaker 3: realize that life and cycles and time and space and
- 22:32Speaker 3: all of it is, it's all happening all at once, right,
- 22:36Speaker 3: and you know you really just got to like pull everything,
- 22:41Speaker 3: pull all the fragments back in, and then balance it out,
- 22:45Speaker 3: release what you like, releasing truly releasing it. For me,
- 22:48Speaker 3: it was a twenty six day fast where I released
- 22:51Speaker 3: so much. You know, man, I cried on nights, I
- 22:53Speaker 3: had cold sweats on nights. I was seeing things, hearing things.
- 22:57Speaker 3: I was really like traveling through these different portals of
- 22:59Speaker 3: everything that I've been hiding from. And that's what kind
- 23:02Speaker 3: of brought me back. And then after that, so I
- 23:06Speaker 3: had met this doctor named Dhoti and Calli and him
- 23:09Speaker 3: made these organ cleansing tablets and I was taking those
- 23:15Speaker 3: and I was doing it during this time. It was
- 23:17Speaker 3: a popular fast, but most people were doing it for
- 23:18Speaker 3: like three to five days. I did it for twenty
- 23:20Speaker 3: six days. Cayenne, you know, honey, lemon? Uh? What else?
- 23:27Speaker 4: Was it?
- 23:28Speaker 3: Ginger? And yeah, it was a lot back, but I
- 23:30Speaker 3: took it for I was like, yo, once I got
- 23:32Speaker 3: to like my second my first week, I was like, nah,
- 23:36Speaker 3: this is I feel too. The first week, after the
- 23:40Speaker 3: first five days those the next two days you feel great.
- 23:42Speaker 3: Then you feel like shit for like three days. Then
- 23:45Speaker 3: you feel empty. Now your your skin is tingling and
- 23:50Speaker 3: you're hearing like things that the highest capacity, and you're
- 23:54Speaker 3: the light. You could see things clear, like it's just everything.
- 23:56Speaker 3: I wasn't sleep. I was only sleep for like three
- 23:58Speaker 3: hours before I couldn't sleep long and I have so
- 24:00Speaker 3: much energy. And so then I was like, okay, who's
- 24:03Speaker 3: the person? Like what how does food affect you? Then
- 24:07Speaker 3: I started studying what I was feeling. I was like,
- 24:09Speaker 3: how does food affect your mind? How does food affect
- 24:12Speaker 3: your energy? How does it affect your sleep? And I
- 24:14Speaker 3: was realizing like, damn, we overeat in this country, and
- 24:18Speaker 3: like I'm like, yo, we really we eat emotionally. We
- 24:21Speaker 3: eat when we feel, you know, out of a breakup,
- 24:25Speaker 3: We eat when we horny and we don't get none.
- 24:28Speaker 3: We eat like you know, so consumption right, And so
- 24:31Speaker 3: then I started really diving into like why physical, mental,
- 24:36Speaker 3: and spiritual consumption all leads to your decisions, all leads
- 24:40Speaker 3: to what you're attracting your life, how you attract things,
- 24:43Speaker 3: and it affects everything in your life. So I went
- 24:45Speaker 3: down that road for years of just like being becoming
- 24:47Speaker 3: a mystic and studying different things and not being afraid
- 24:50Speaker 3: to be judged by people during that time, if you
- 24:53Speaker 3: were practicing and working with chrystals. I was doing this
- 24:56Speaker 3: in two thousand and eleven twelve when it wasn't cool,
- 25:03Speaker 3: you know, and I just wasn't talking about it. I
- 25:06Speaker 3: didn't share it because my journey was different. And yeah,
- 25:10Speaker 3: So I did that for years, bro, and then I
- 25:12Speaker 3: decided I'm like, okay, I'm ready to start making music again.
- 25:15Speaker 3: Like I think I'm ready to start. And the first
- 25:19Speaker 3: record I released out of that, I think was Somebody
- 25:21Speaker 3: Else with Nikki that is my yeah shit, yeah it
- 25:25Speaker 3: was like that one in fatal distraction. Fatal Yeah, fatal distraction.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes so much sense beause the shadow work
- 25:32Speaker 5: gives you greater self awareness because it helps you understand
- 25:36Speaker 5: a lot of your blind spots that you might not
- 25:38Speaker 5: even have been aware of.
- 25:39Speaker 3: Man, it's a real thing. It's so true, bro, and
- 25:42Speaker 3: it's like you got it. It's almost like you gotta
- 25:44Speaker 3: forgive yourself because you Sometimes we can do the work,
- 25:48Speaker 3: but then we still haven't really forgiven ourselves. We still
- 25:51Speaker 3: haven't really been like, Yo, tell your younger self, I
- 25:54Speaker 3: love you. Forget you know, forgive yourself for the people
- 25:58Speaker 3: that may have hurt you. I'm still working through it, bro.
- 26:00Speaker 3: They don't stop, Bro, you don't. The truth is, it
- 26:02Speaker 3: never stops because we live in a space where we're
- 26:05Speaker 3: constantly reminded of our past.
- 26:07Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, That's the first thing that
- 26:08Speaker 8: came to mom when I heard you talk about all
- 26:09Speaker 8: this work you were doing, because I watched you on
- 26:11Speaker 8: Camp's podcast Monkey Friday, Yeah, and hearing you talk about
- 26:14Speaker 8: a lot of things I didn't know it, like your
- 26:16Speaker 8: mom and your adoption, and like you never had the
- 26:19Speaker 8: time to kind of make amends with all that stuff
- 26:22Speaker 8: because you were famous at fourteen. Yes, So what was
- 26:24Speaker 8: Mario saying to or I guess twelve eleven year old
- 26:27Speaker 8: Mario during the time where you got.
- 26:29Speaker 6: Away from everybody, like, don't know what your younger self.
- 26:31Speaker 3: I didn't know how to speak to my youngest stelf then,
- 26:34Speaker 3: So I wasn't really speaking to my younger self at
- 26:36Speaker 3: the time. I was more so processing what I was
- 26:41Speaker 3: trying to understand and like doing the work of at
- 26:44Speaker 3: least getting to a point where I could actually look
- 26:46Speaker 3: at it and see it from a different perspective in
- 26:51Speaker 3: terms of like the science of it and the actual
- 26:54Speaker 3: work of it, Like why do I make the decision?
- 26:56Speaker 3: Why do people make the decisions? Where am I lacking
- 26:59Speaker 3: at for me not to be able to be happy today?
- 27:03Speaker 3: What is this thing I'm holding on to? Right? So
- 27:05Speaker 3: I had to work through that first, I think that
- 27:08Speaker 3: talking to my younger self, it's gonna happen more. Even
- 27:13Speaker 3: when my son is here right being able to understand
- 27:20Speaker 3: give him the thing. I think he's gonna help my
- 27:23Speaker 3: I'm not like putting it on him to help me,
- 27:25Speaker 3: but I think being a dad will also help me
- 27:27Speaker 3: work through my younger my issues with my younger self,
- 27:30Speaker 3: if that makes sense.
- 27:31Speaker 4: That makes the world.
- 27:32Speaker 5: Man, It's it's like, man, God, it's so amazing because
- 27:34Speaker 5: you've done the work.
- 27:36Speaker 4: You're doing the work. But God didn't even.
- 27:39Speaker 5: Allow you to have your first child until you was
- 27:42Speaker 5: a much more healed, clear version of yourself.
- 27:45Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy bro's eye. Consciously obviously, just like I
- 27:50Speaker 3: didn't want a child yet and I did certain things
- 27:53Speaker 3: to make sure I didn't have a joy yet. But
- 27:55Speaker 3: what you're saying is so true. And you know it's
- 27:59Speaker 3: one day. Story can the plot they can't there, But
- 28:02Speaker 3: like that's one of the things me and.
- 28:04Speaker 4: My girl talk about all the time. Was like, yo,
- 28:06Speaker 4: like I.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Knew I loved her and I knew I felt safer.
- 28:09Speaker 3: I knew we knew each other for a long time.
- 28:10Speaker 3: We knew a lot of things about each other, but
- 28:12Speaker 3: it was all God when it came to her actually
- 28:15Speaker 3: conceiving like it was all God, bro. And it's like
- 28:19Speaker 3: I feel this energy already, like we both pray, pray
- 28:22Speaker 3: about our lives. It's amazing, Bro, it's amazing. I'm excited
- 28:26Speaker 3: about it.
- 28:26Speaker 4: How is healing shape? The man you are to.
- 28:32Speaker 3: Gave me more confidence. It gave me more confidence being
- 28:35Speaker 3: an artist that you know, took time away and making
- 28:41Speaker 3: a resurgence doing this digital crusade, you know, gave me
- 28:46Speaker 3: so much confidence on who I am as a person.
- 28:47Speaker 3: I don't think that there's anything that could happen and
- 28:51Speaker 3: these phones are online that could change or make me
- 28:54Speaker 3: want to be anything other than myself and have my
- 28:59Speaker 3: found day. Shouldn't be strong for the things that really matter.
- 29:02Speaker 3: And I think that that is why God put me
- 29:05Speaker 3: through all of these different obstacles, is there's there's a
- 29:08Speaker 3: bigger column on my life that I'm tapping into that's
- 29:12Speaker 3: so multi dimensional in terms of like even the things
- 29:15Speaker 3: that I'm into now and the things that I'm attracting
- 29:18Speaker 3: and the people, for example, you know, investing in Redemption Bank,
- 29:23Speaker 3: who is which was founded by Britanice King and Ashley Bell,
- 29:32Speaker 3: and they're great people. Who have a great vision for
- 29:34Speaker 3: our community. But just you know, financial literacy in general.
- 29:38Speaker 3: I've been learning so much and just really wanting to
- 29:40Speaker 3: be a part of changing the narrative for us, you know,
- 29:45Speaker 3: as you know, there's so much work to be done.
- 29:47Speaker 3: You know, you've been in a room with a lot
- 29:49Speaker 3: of people who understand what needs to be done, and
- 29:50Speaker 3: so just wanted to be a part of something bigger.
- 29:53Speaker 3: So God's been preparing me for that, right, So that's
- 29:56Speaker 3: what I'm saying. When we have these conversations about music,
- 29:58Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo, it's it's so funny because my day
- 30:00Speaker 3: to day life is nat It's so far from that
- 30:03Speaker 3: in terms of the conversation that people I talked to.
- 30:05Speaker 3: But I get it. It's just that we haven't fun
- 30:07Speaker 3: whatever whatever. But yeah, so it's a it's a lot
- 30:09Speaker 3: of work, and I think God's just been preparing me
- 30:11Speaker 3: for it all. Yeah hm hmmm.
- 30:13Speaker 4: So look.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 30:17Speaker 9: You're going to add a comedy component.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Yo, Listen, we could put something together. And I know
- 30:25Speaker 3: it was talking about during it during the pandemic, you
- 30:27Speaker 3: were talking about some stuff and you had.
- 30:28Speaker 9: A great idea, and I wish I would have like
- 30:32Speaker 9: hone in on it, like I wish I would have
- 30:34Speaker 9: jumped on it. You had an idea to do, like
- 30:37Speaker 9: I think it was like comedy virtually, like where people
- 30:39Speaker 9: because it was something.
- 30:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought.
- 30:42Speaker 9: It was so smart. And then I see somebody else
- 30:44Speaker 9: doing I'm like, damn you, Mario.
- 30:45Speaker 4: You'll put me.
- 30:46Speaker 3: Try to put me on to that like five years ago.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Good listen, just you naturally listen, like Mike was saying,
- 30:53Speaker 3: like it's some people who wake up and just funny. Bro.
- 30:55Speaker 3: Like you different, Yes, you're different, Like you know what
- 30:58Speaker 3: I mean, days like having fucked up days and all
- 31:00Speaker 3: your pages come on and that just changed my whole ship.
- 31:04Speaker 3: Like you different, like you you're literally one of I
- 31:07Speaker 3: think you're one of the young goats, Like you know
- 31:09Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like keep doing that ship, like I
- 31:13Speaker 3: know you hustling it, but like tap in, like you
- 31:16Speaker 3: really wanted them for real.
- 31:17Speaker 4: Like I think about all the people who had good
- 31:19Speaker 4: days and you clown them and.
- 31:22Speaker 3: Think that it's a part of it.
- 31:23Speaker 4: Though, I just want you to think about all aspects.
- 31:26Speaker 3: I feel like true comedy comes from truth though, like
- 31:29Speaker 3: real comedy come from truth, it does, and depending on where.
- 31:32Speaker 4: You're from Yo.
- 31:33Speaker 9: People don't understand the Baltimore. They just think we're just
- 31:35Speaker 9: straight all aggressive.
- 31:37Speaker 3: Nah, for sure, you know what I'm saying, We'll be
- 31:39Speaker 3: saying it that they think about. And I think that
- 31:41Speaker 3: that's like that's the thing. You know, We're gonna always
- 31:43Speaker 3: get the you know, the backlash we say ship that people.
- 31:46Speaker 9: That's why it was so many people that got mad
- 31:47Speaker 9: at you and Cam.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Answer you them questions, yeah, man, it's yeah. That interview
- 31:52Speaker 3: was interesting. Man, it was interesting.
- 31:54Speaker 4: But did you have fun? Though?
- 31:56Speaker 3: Not all the way Honestly it was cool, but then
- 31:58Speaker 3: it just got to the point where like he wasn't
- 32:00Speaker 3: being real about ship and it wasn't fun no more.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Now now I'm like, you're not being even you're talking
- 32:06Speaker 3: so much about your own life. And I with him, right,
- 32:10Speaker 3: but it was just everybody. So it was just moments
- 32:13Speaker 3: where I was like, Yo, you're not being real like
- 32:14Speaker 3: a cool I see what this is. Yeah, I like, listen,
- 32:20Speaker 3: fuck with came real quick, just said that you can
- 32:22Speaker 3: remember all the moments. It's too many.
- 32:24Speaker 4: Just said one time your actually going in and out Baltimore.
- 32:29Speaker 6: You're talking to me about the Ebony's not it?
- 32:32Speaker 3: Do it? And I get.
- 32:36Speaker 8: Get madmore and then I forget what I asked you
- 32:40Speaker 8: about and it was like and I was like, oh yeah.
- 32:43Speaker 4: From there because I haven't heard it this interview. That's
- 32:45Speaker 4: why I've been living.
- 32:47Speaker 3: I've been living in l A for like fifteen years now.
- 32:49Speaker 3: So ship just if I go home for two weeks
- 32:52Speaker 3: said when he gets it's crazy when he gets upset
- 32:55Speaker 3: about something that ship.
- 32:58Speaker 1: They're trying to get mad. Look definitely don't at all
- 33:07Speaker 1: some question, right, but but.
- 33:09Speaker 3: It I'm mad at you for kicking the cameraman off stage.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought that was kind of crazy because
- 33:14Speaker 2: that's your time to before you don't know what this
- 33:16Speaker 2: DoD is on stage.
- 33:17Speaker 3: I think that it was just people not used to
- 33:19Speaker 3: seeing me like that, bro, like mad, yeah, like you.
- 33:22Speaker 3: So it's like I try not to get mad, bro,
- 33:25Speaker 3: because when I get mad, I get mad, you know
- 33:28Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And then it's like I'm like, it
- 33:31Speaker 3: takes a lot to get me mad, right, So when
- 33:33Speaker 3: I get there, hopefully I don't want it to be
- 33:35Speaker 3: seen ever, Like I don't want people to see that
- 33:37Speaker 3: side of me, like and it's not like I'm not human,
- 33:40Speaker 3: I just it can get taken out of context, which
- 33:42Speaker 3: it did, right, So I'm gonna tell the story officially
- 33:45Speaker 3: here on Breakfast Club.
- 33:48Speaker 1: They hit us for this.
- 33:49Speaker 3: Fair I'm like, okay, it's close to LA. We'll take
- 33:52Speaker 3: the spring up. Go up there, due it, knock it out,
- 33:54Speaker 3: we come back to the crib, right, cool. Family only
- 33:56Speaker 3: say all right, cool Lloyd, a couple of us, let's
- 33:59Speaker 3: do it. I get to my shows usually if it's
- 34:02Speaker 3: Souls with other people, I get there like like when
- 34:05Speaker 3: we're doing a drink, not to gett like ten fifteen
- 34:07Speaker 3: minutes before, because I don't like sitting in the dress room.
- 34:08Speaker 3: I get assy, like man, So no one told me
- 34:13Speaker 3: that a camera man was going to be on stage
- 34:15Speaker 3: at all. So when I go on stage, I'm performing
- 34:19Speaker 3: and I keep seeing a figure around and the stage
- 34:21Speaker 3: is pretty big. If I keep seeing a figure and
- 34:24Speaker 3: I'm like okay, then when I saw him for the
- 34:26Speaker 3: first time, I'm like, damn. Then he jump up from
- 34:27Speaker 3: because he didn't have a camera, bro, he had an
- 34:30Speaker 3: iPhone on a joint. Go look at the video. So
- 34:33Speaker 3: I'm like, he must have jumped from out of the crowd.
- 34:35Speaker 3: He came on my irony trip or whatever. He over
- 34:37Speaker 3: there but then he got comfortable and on the stage,
- 34:41Speaker 3: they got they had too many speakers. They have more
- 34:43Speaker 3: speakers because usually every artist get to say what they
- 34:46Speaker 3: wanted the stage to be. Like, they left the other
- 34:48Speaker 3: artist speakers on the stage, so it was more speakers
- 34:50Speaker 3: than were supposed to be. So I'm looking for where
- 34:52Speaker 3: he about to go, and I tripped one time over
- 34:54Speaker 3: the over court. I ain't say nothing. I'm like, man,
- 34:56Speaker 3: shit crazy, I gotta watch up. Then as I'm walking
- 35:00Speaker 3: back to the right side of the stage, he's all
- 35:03Speaker 3: the way downstage, like near the speaker, like you should
- 35:07Speaker 3: be like further back, like you feel me. And then
- 35:10Speaker 3: that moment is like, Yo, you gotta get the fuck
- 35:11Speaker 3: off the stage. Bro, you didn't already like you get
- 35:14Speaker 3: to It wasn't even like I hate you, nigga, get off,
- 35:17Speaker 3: Like it was just like, nigga, get the fuck off.
- 35:18Speaker 3: I just feel me. It was like that apologized shortly after.
- 35:24Speaker 3: It was hot as a half ass apology. But I
- 35:26Speaker 3: didn't even realize he went on tour. He went on
- 35:31Speaker 3: he went on a press tour about it. So like
- 35:33Speaker 3: I was like, I'm like, bro, you know, let me
- 35:35Speaker 3: just do it. But yeah, that's what happened. He was,
- 35:38Speaker 3: but he was supposed to be there parently and then
- 35:40Speaker 3: you know, but it really was just I didn't know
- 35:43Speaker 3: he had an iPhone. Are we getting any visuals?
- 35:49Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 35:49Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm about to put a video out from Home,
- 35:51Speaker 3: uh in like a week period. Yeah, yeah, it's coming
- 35:54Speaker 3: to visual for Home is coming in. It's fire, It's fire,
- 35:57Speaker 3: It's you know, it's nineties R and B. I'm giving
- 35:59Speaker 3: you our real arm on this project. So and more
- 36:01Speaker 3: to come as well. Moose swings too. More music. Definitely
- 36:05Speaker 3: tapping back into the movie space as well. I'm building
- 36:08Speaker 3: a lot of things behind the scene when new citizens
- 36:10Speaker 3: and the investment side, the creative side, hopefully signing some artists.
- 36:16Speaker 3: I got my eyes on a few. I want to
- 36:18Speaker 3: say it because last time I did, somebody sign him.
- 36:21Speaker 3: But it's just like, yeah, I have a color. It
- 36:24Speaker 3: was this kid. His name is Chosen. I forgot his
- 36:27Speaker 3: last name. His name is Chosen, but like he's super soulful.
- 36:30Speaker 3: I showed you off off off of the joint. But
- 36:32Speaker 3: he got signed by Quality Control, you know what I'm saying.
- 36:36Speaker 3: And we was talking, but yeah he's already been signed
- 36:39Speaker 3: by SO but yeah, super talented but really looking for
- 36:42Speaker 3: like raw talent man that I can help evolve through
- 36:45Speaker 3: this industry, you know, and and understand that, like outside
- 36:49Speaker 3: of music, there's so many other opportunities, right, So generational
- 36:52Speaker 3: wealth like that's that's really what the whole New Citizen
- 36:55Speaker 3: for me represents. You know.
- 36:57Speaker 4: So have you taken your girl to Baltimore? Yeah?
- 37:01Speaker 3: Bottomore? Like three, she went with me on Thanksgiving one year.
- 37:05Speaker 3: Uh we went to Bottomore, went to Philly Family, Philly, Baltimore.
- 37:08Speaker 3: She from, she's Mexicans from she's from.
- 37:11Speaker 6: Uh, sacrament He got hold on.
- 37:16Speaker 9: I don't comfortable with hands.
- 37:22Speaker 3: She got me as well, thank you. But he and Mexican.
- 37:30Speaker 3: I think man's street Mexican. I cannot ask you a questions.
- 37:33Speaker 3: What does it matter? It don't matter, you know what
- 37:38Speaker 3: I'm saying.
- 37:39Speaker 4: I just want to know how.
- 37:42Speaker 6: That your girlfriend is Mexican.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Yeah, like doesn't matter.
- 37:45Speaker 4: It don't matter to me. Doctor, She's not that kind she.
- 37:51Speaker 3: Legally yeah, man, everybody legal.
- 37:54Speaker 4: I love.
- 37:55Speaker 3: Love is definitely love.
- 37:57Speaker 5: But but I do like to see black men with
- 37:59Speaker 5: black women. But that that's that's just because that's what.
- 38:03Speaker 4: I feel for sure.
- 38:04Speaker 3: I love to see all of it. I love to
- 38:05Speaker 3: see all.
- 38:06Speaker 4: But I want you to be in love if you
- 38:07Speaker 4: love her.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Love is nice, man, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be
- 38:10Speaker 3: here if I didn't love her. I wouldn't We wouldn't
- 38:12Speaker 3: be here if we didn't love each other. Pro creating
- 38:14Speaker 3: like this exactly like we're having a beautiful experience right now.
- 38:18Speaker 3: The only you know, the hardest part obviously is always
- 38:21Speaker 3: the traveler, right being away from home, checking in, being like, damn,
- 38:25Speaker 3: if I'm on stage and something's happening and I will not,
- 38:27Speaker 3: I can't get that. You know what I'm saying. It's this,
- 38:29Speaker 3: This has been This has been hard because it's like
- 38:32Speaker 3: things were already in motion, these toys are already playing,
- 38:34Speaker 3: you know. But I get off tour in December, and
- 38:36Speaker 3: I'll be home for all the holidays, So I don't know.
- 38:38Speaker 4: I don't think you owe anybody an explanation, though. I
- 38:40Speaker 4: think that's it's like, why are you explaining who you love?
- 38:44Speaker 2: You know?
- 38:45Speaker 3: It's not so much explaining who I love is. It's
- 38:47Speaker 3: it's the the narrative of oh Mario doesn't like black
- 38:52Speaker 3: women that I have an issue with, and where this
- 38:55Speaker 3: narrative was created from. That's the thing about the internet.
- 38:57Speaker 3: Is like, you can't just leave that, you know, out
- 39:03Speaker 3: in the air. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
- 39:05Speaker 3: So I'd rather confront it so people understand that it's
- 39:09Speaker 3: a lie and it's it's not true, versus not saying
- 39:12Speaker 3: anything aboudy, which I've done in a couple of interviews
- 39:14Speaker 3: since that interview, you know. But the way he asked
- 39:17Speaker 3: it was so he set me up.
- 39:21Speaker 1: One of the question.
- 39:23Speaker 6: The question set up like what's your relationship with black women? Right? No,
- 39:27Speaker 6: that wasn't the first question.
- 39:28Speaker 3: No, that was like that. He was like, do you
- 39:29Speaker 3: have a problem with black women?
- 39:31Speaker 4: That's a wild question.
- 39:33Speaker 1: The way you answered it.
- 39:35Speaker 8: The way you answered it that we played that clip
- 39:37Speaker 8: here answered it. I don't think it it didn't make
- 39:40Speaker 8: it any worse, but I think it made people try
- 39:42Speaker 8: to find another reason why you don't like.
- 39:44Speaker 3: Black Psychologically, these podcasts and people when people are not
- 39:50Speaker 3: everybody doesn't have the same way they receive things. And
- 39:57Speaker 3: we're dealing with y'all know, we're dealing I ain't got said,
- 40:00Speaker 3: you know, we did a way in the coming, you know,
- 40:02Speaker 3: and so it's like, yes, of course, like I come
- 40:04Speaker 3: from I'm a black man, who comes from a black city,
- 40:07Speaker 3: who comes from the struggles of black people in this country.
- 40:14Speaker 3: So I come from what my course, a lot of
- 40:16Speaker 3: my core fans come from. So of course it's like
- 40:19Speaker 3: if someone says something like do you have a problem,
- 40:20Speaker 3: but the people who never even heard the question will
- 40:23Speaker 3: be like, wait, you got a problem? It's like here, right,
- 40:28Speaker 3: of course, I gotta say. You know what I'm saying,
- 40:30Speaker 3: I'm defending that to say that I love black women
- 40:33Speaker 3: and black women the most beautiful creatures on this planet,
- 40:36Speaker 3: and why do you hate them?
- 40:39Speaker 4: Talk about.
- 40:41Speaker 1: Say?
- 40:42Speaker 6: I feel like it made people do what he's doing
- 40:44Speaker 6: right now.
- 40:46Speaker 3: Bro, I look for everybody who hates Charlamagne. But where
- 40:53Speaker 3: did you mean? What we met? I met? I met
- 40:59Speaker 3: her in Florida years ago when I was living in Miami.
- 41:01Speaker 3: We met and her mind was living at the time
- 41:03Speaker 3: we met. Well, she was like, we knowing each other
- 41:07Speaker 3: for like for like nine years. You know what I'm saying.
- 41:09Speaker 3: So we've seen each other through relationship. We've been friends
- 41:12Speaker 3: for so long.
- 41:13Speaker 9: Yeah, it's about your when you talked about your experience,
- 41:17Speaker 9: I had a problem with people having a problem with that,
- 41:20Speaker 9: Like you just talked about you went into it more
- 41:24Speaker 9: you were saying, because yeah, the question was asked, oh
- 41:27Speaker 9: why don't you why do you have a problem with
- 41:28Speaker 9: black women? And you're like, it's not that I don't
- 41:30Speaker 9: have a problem with black women. You talked about your
- 41:32Speaker 9: experience with the black women who was you know where we.
- 41:37Speaker 3: Got to that the questions was just outrageous, Like, I
- 41:40Speaker 3: don't even know, I don't know where these allegations began,
- 41:43Speaker 3: these questions beg That's that's the point. I don't let's
- 41:45Speaker 3: just set this straight. I don't know where they begin,
- 41:47Speaker 3: and they're not I don't hold those like that's for
- 41:51Speaker 3: like clickbait and all that. But when we got around
- 41:55Speaker 3: to speaking about my experience that that came out of
- 41:59Speaker 3: me saying, how could I have hate? Like, it's not
- 42:03Speaker 3: it's not hate. Yes, I haven't had a beautiful experience
- 42:07Speaker 3: as far as like the my story, you know, but
- 42:10Speaker 3: that doesn't lead to hate, bro, that doesn't lead to hate.
- 42:12Speaker 3: You know.
- 42:13Speaker 5: It's interesting you're right about the questions because I you know,
- 42:16Speaker 5: I'm interviewing you for years.
- 42:17Speaker 4: I've never heard that before. But so when you hear
- 42:19Speaker 4: a question like that, you think yourself.
- 42:22Speaker 3: I'm gonna oh, he has wrong with it, so, you know,
- 42:26Speaker 3: but I think it's just it's a matter of people
- 42:28Speaker 3: getting to know me more, you know. And I'm like, okay,
- 42:30Speaker 3: this is why interviews are important. This is why. And
- 42:33Speaker 3: then when you get to a certain level when you
- 42:34Speaker 3: want to do anything, no more cool because now they
- 42:37Speaker 3: just talking about your music. But you have to have
- 42:38Speaker 3: something in place of that for them to talk about. Right,
- 42:41Speaker 3: So yeah, I get it.
- 42:43Speaker 8: You answered the question. Do you think doing the interviews
- 42:46Speaker 8: is even helpful? Because you explained and then they find
- 42:49Speaker 8: another reason.
- 42:50Speaker 3: Then I will say this. I think that there's always
- 42:53Speaker 3: different perspectives based on how you enter the conversation. This
- 42:56Speaker 3: is a different podcast, it's a different platform, her minds,
- 43:01Speaker 3: you know, different energy, like everything is different. I don't mind.
- 43:04Speaker 3: I'm an open book at this point. I don't mind
- 43:06Speaker 3: having conversations. You know, I understand now how to navigate
- 43:10Speaker 3: it better. But you know, you got to go through
- 43:12Speaker 3: the through the mud sometimes. I understand, like, all right, cool,
- 43:15Speaker 3: we got to make sure we stand and stand on
- 43:17Speaker 3: solid girl.
- 43:18Speaker 9: What you talk about when you talk about your girl
- 43:22Speaker 9: being pregnant and you and something. You can't be there
- 43:24Speaker 9: all the time because you wore tour and things like
- 43:25Speaker 9: that and your first time, dad, and it's like wow, right,
- 43:28Speaker 9: so you don't need this is the first time you're
- 43:30Speaker 9: ever going through this. Are these the times where you
- 43:33Speaker 9: like say, like damn, you wish your mom was here.
- 43:37Speaker 9: Oh my god, You're like, damn, I wish I could
- 43:39Speaker 9: just ask her what the hell I could do?
- 43:43Speaker 3: I wish my mom was here for a lot of things.
- 43:44Speaker 3: I wish my mom was here because she's one of
- 43:48Speaker 3: the realist people I've ever known, you know, mother was.
- 43:52Speaker 3: She's one of those people like anything that she wanted
- 43:57Speaker 3: she could have had. She had a scholarship planning tennis.
- 44:00Speaker 3: She was the number one tennis player in Maryland. You know,
- 44:02Speaker 3: when she was young, she had a chemist she was
- 44:06Speaker 3: a major in chemistry, bachelor's in chemistry. She loved God,
- 44:13Speaker 3: you know, and she was a hustler, so she could
- 44:17Speaker 3: have transmitted that energy into anything. I think that we
- 44:19Speaker 3: would have made a great partnership in business because I'm
- 44:25Speaker 3: I feel like I'm more thorough than I've ever been.
- 44:28Speaker 3: I don't have any plans on not expand, like I'm
- 44:31Speaker 3: expanding it other ways, and I think that she could
- 44:33Speaker 3: have been right here with me. And of course having
- 44:35Speaker 3: another grandmother for my child and having her be a
- 44:38Speaker 3: part of my life. That's I mean, she here the spirit,
- 44:41Speaker 3: but of course I would want that. But you know,
- 44:44Speaker 3: my my girl's mom is an incredible out wailers so far.
- 44:48Speaker 3: You know, she's been there, she's home right now and
- 44:51Speaker 3: making sure she's straight. She's excited about it. You know,
- 44:54Speaker 3: God don't make no mistakes in terms of like you
- 44:56Speaker 3: know what it's meant for you, and how when you
- 45:01Speaker 3: pray for things and you prepare for things, how God
- 45:03Speaker 3: shows up. I think we're blessed you. But yeah, I
- 45:06Speaker 3: would love that.
- 45:07Speaker 5: After doing the work on yourself that you've done, finding
- 45:10Speaker 5: so many personal answers, did that cause you to have more.
- 45:15Speaker 4: Questions for your mom that you probably didn't get that.
- 45:20Speaker 3: I've asked a lot of questions, you know. I think
- 45:22Speaker 3: the thing that I've the thing that I've been sending
- 45:29Speaker 3: her love for lately, because you know, is me forgiving
- 45:33Speaker 3: her because spiritually, no one ever really dies, right, the
- 45:40Speaker 3: energy doesn't die, it's just transmuted. So it's like sending
- 45:45Speaker 3: her forgiveness and support, you know, for whatever her soul
- 45:49Speaker 3: may be still struggling with or whatever her next journey is.
- 45:53Speaker 3: I think that that's you know, that's what I do now,
- 45:57Speaker 3: That's what I focus on now, you know, is that
- 45:59Speaker 3: forgiveness for her, forgiving myself and just sending her so
- 46:02Speaker 3: much support and love. Because there's been moments where during
- 46:05Speaker 3: my spiritual journey when she would come visit me, and
- 46:09Speaker 3: you know, anybody who understands the spiritual realm, there's been blockages,
- 46:13Speaker 3: like just when I'm able to, like we're able to,
- 46:15Speaker 3: there's something that comes in between and blocks it. I've
- 46:18Speaker 3: had that happen a lot of times. So I'm like, okay,
- 46:20Speaker 3: so I have there's still something I have to work on.
- 46:22Speaker 3: So the more and more work on it, the closer
- 46:24Speaker 3: and closer I feel that these other entities and things
- 46:27Speaker 3: can't even blocking in the spiritual room because it's so
- 46:31Speaker 3: much power because she has things that she tells me
- 46:36Speaker 3: that I need to know, and when that those blockers,
- 46:39Speaker 3: I can't get those. And so it's a real thing,
- 46:41Speaker 3: and it happens in real life too, you know, with family,
- 46:44Speaker 3: and there's entities that are built out of trauma and
- 46:48Speaker 3: they become their own entities in your life and you
- 46:51Speaker 3: don't work through those things, you can't heal with your
- 46:53Speaker 3: dad or your mom or your sister, or your or
- 46:55Speaker 3: your wife or your whatever, you know what I'm saying.
- 46:57Speaker 3: So that's a real thing, and I think it doesn't
- 47:00Speaker 3: change in the spiritual.
- 47:01Speaker 5: Bro, do you believe, you know, after doing all this
- 47:03Speaker 5: working on yourself, do you believe your life's purpose is
- 47:05Speaker 5: bigger than music?
- 47:06Speaker 3: One? Absolutely? Bro, Absolutely, I think that there's a spiritual
- 47:10Speaker 3: side of it. There's a community building side of it.
- 47:15Speaker 3: When I say that, I mean using my relationships to
- 47:17Speaker 3: help build our communities. You know, I've been building myself
- 47:21Speaker 3: back up over these past few years, but now I'm
- 47:23Speaker 3: like branching out to be like, Okay, how can I
- 47:25Speaker 3: use my relationships to make sure in this new world
- 47:28Speaker 3: that's happening? You know, my people, my community. You know,
- 47:31Speaker 3: we just have a you know, we're put in a
- 47:33Speaker 3: position where people understand our power and understand our unity
- 47:37Speaker 3: in a different way. And it's it's gonna take a
- 47:39Speaker 3: lot of work, but that's like where my head is at.
- 47:43Speaker 3: But also just owning things and being able to be creative.
- 47:47Speaker 3: Like I'm working on a museum right now that I
- 47:49Speaker 3: don't know exactly where I'm gonna put it yet, but
- 47:51Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be everything sound. I can't say the
- 47:53Speaker 3: whole concept because there's a lot of rich people out
- 47:56Speaker 3: there that can make it suit happen, but like, but yeah,
- 47:58Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be incredible, and then just a lot
- 48:01Speaker 3: of other things. Man, And I feel like it's showing
- 48:06Speaker 3: not only my fans and people who's been watching my
- 48:08Speaker 3: career for a long time, that yo, you can be
- 48:10Speaker 3: whoever you want to be. And we have always been
- 48:13Speaker 3: some of the most creative beings on this planet and
- 48:16Speaker 3: creating things that's never been created before. This is what
- 48:19Speaker 3: I want to do. That's my goal. And it goes
- 48:21Speaker 3: for everything from music to tech, business, you know, social experiences, restaurants,
- 48:30Speaker 3: all types of things. You know, there's there's a lot
- 48:31Speaker 3: of things happening, you know, and even writing being an author.
- 48:35Speaker 3: I have like three books that I've written but that
- 48:38Speaker 3: I haven't put out yet because I don't know. Every
- 48:39Speaker 3: time there's a new version of me, I'm like.
- 48:41Speaker 4: You gotta go back and chang.
- 48:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I gotta go back and change.
- 48:44Speaker 3: Have you ever experienced that, like you put out books? Like,
- 48:46Speaker 3: how does that for you?
- 48:47Speaker 4: I can do that with every single book that I've written.
- 48:49Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, go back and change certain.
- 48:51Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the first book was you know, up
- 48:54Speaker 5: to a certain point in my life.
- 48:55Speaker 4: So it was these lessons that I learned.
- 48:56Speaker 5: Yeah, my second book, I was completely empty because I
- 48:59Speaker 5: asked the doing to work on myself and started to
- 49:01Speaker 5: go into therapy and stuff. So everything I thought I
- 49:04Speaker 5: knew I was like, Yo, I really don't know nothing.
- 49:06Speaker 5: I was just I learned a whole bunch of stuff.
- 49:08Speaker 5: Then my third book, you know, it really came to
- 49:10Speaker 5: me after a plant based experience, you know, with ayahuasca.
- 49:15Speaker 5: I went on the ayahuasca journey and the same thing
- 49:17Speaker 5: came up for me that came up for you. It's like, yo,
- 49:20Speaker 5: stop lying to yourself and stop volunteering those lives to
- 49:22Speaker 5: other people. So it's like, yeah, every every book has
- 49:26Speaker 5: been a different version of me.
- 49:27Speaker 3: So that's where I'm at now. Is just like okay,
- 49:29Speaker 3: which which there's all these like versions, all of them
- 49:33Speaker 3: have truth, right, but which ones connected dots to where
- 49:36Speaker 3: I am right now? So that's kind of where I'm
- 49:38Speaker 3: at with that. But yeah, that's it's just I'm just bro.
- 49:40Speaker 3: I'm just ready to continue to grow. You know, music
- 49:43Speaker 3: is my passion. But you know, with that comes all
- 49:46Speaker 3: these other things, more touring, bigger, bigger shows and bigger
- 49:49Speaker 3: opportunities and just you know, just growing me and my
- 49:52Speaker 3: team growing.
- 49:53Speaker 5: What what's the message you think men need to hear
- 49:55Speaker 5: today that we don't talk about enough.
- 49:59Speaker 3: I don't think men applaud out the better things about
- 50:08Speaker 3: each other enough. It's like, you know, if you see
- 50:11Speaker 3: your homie like that've been struggling with something for years
- 50:14Speaker 3: and he he's getting over it or he's trying to
- 50:17Speaker 3: get over it, appalled that, you know what I mean,
- 50:19Speaker 3: showing some love, show him you see that, Like, Yo,
- 50:21Speaker 3: that's shit, cool, bro, like that shit that. I'm inspired,
- 50:24Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I think escapism, escaping the hour,
- 50:31Speaker 3: traumas with drugs and you know, maybe nightlife or whatever.
- 50:37Speaker 3: You know, I mean, everybody like to have fun, but
- 50:39Speaker 3: you know, just really like taking like the time to
- 50:42Speaker 3: really take your future serious. You know, sit down for
- 50:46Speaker 3: a minute, like maybe save some bread, Like sit back,
- 50:49Speaker 3: you know what I mean, look at your life, look
- 50:51Speaker 3: at the people in your life, and really analyze, like, Okay,
- 50:54Speaker 3: if if something is calling me to grow, all these
- 50:58Speaker 3: people around me going to help me g go out there.
- 51:01Speaker 3: Part of that part do they want to grow like,
- 51:03Speaker 3: because we get comfortable with our relationships. And I've I
- 51:07Speaker 3: realized this because I've had so many different people come
- 51:10Speaker 3: in and out of my life and a different parts
- 51:12Speaker 3: of who I am in my life, you know, different
- 51:14Speaker 3: parts of my journey. And sometimes we get scared to
- 51:17Speaker 3: let people go and not let them go as in like, oh,
- 51:19Speaker 3: I don't fuck with you, but just let them go.
- 51:21Speaker 3: Is in't like, Yo, I need this next few much
- 51:23Speaker 3: to myself, bro or sist. You know, I gotta I
- 51:27Speaker 3: gotta level up in life. There's some things that God
- 51:29Speaker 3: is putting on me, you know, and hopefully I can
- 51:31Speaker 3: help you with that, you know, But I just need
- 51:33Speaker 3: some time. And it's not personal. Not everybody gonna take
- 51:36Speaker 3: that well, but sometimes we gotta do that, man, and
- 51:38Speaker 3: then circle the block and be like, yo, I see
- 51:40Speaker 3: things from a different perspective. I don't think we talk
- 51:43Speaker 3: about that enough in terms of it being something real
- 51:46Speaker 3: that can really change your life. There's a few things, man,
- 51:50Speaker 3: I mean that's yeah, that's just the name of you.
- 51:53Speaker 9: Yeah, this is real quick. This ain't even no question.
- 51:57Speaker 9: I've always wanted.
- 51:58Speaker 6: To tell you. You snapped on.
- 52:01Speaker 9: The cry with appreciate. Man, what that's crazy. He'd be
- 52:06Speaker 9: snapping on these features.
- 52:08Speaker 3: Just thank you. I might put the whole project out
- 52:10Speaker 3: with features just for fun for sure.
- 52:13Speaker 4: That yeah, you never heard that? Who is Down.
- 52:23Speaker 3: Is a streamer?
- 52:23Speaker 2: At this point, ray J is coming up this week
- 52:27Speaker 2: show anybody what what.
- 52:29Speaker 3: Would you say to ray J? Would I say to him?
- 52:31Speaker 3: What would you say the ray J? Already man stopped
- 52:34Speaker 3: stop his car for his breaks? Break you know what
- 52:37Speaker 3: I'm saying, like break it? You know what I mean?
- 52:38Speaker 3: But I told you before he ray J, you know
- 52:41Speaker 3: he is. He a troller. He gonna troll. But he
- 52:44Speaker 3: know what time it is, man, he knows. He said
- 52:46Speaker 3: one which is bigger than let me look. But anyway, listen,
- 52:49Speaker 3: I'm on tour right now, nothing but us tour. You
- 52:52Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. We outside New York was amazing.
- 52:55Speaker 3: The energy in New York. You know, we got like
- 52:57Speaker 3: I think like eight more dates. Project Moose Swings is
- 53:01Speaker 3: out right now. Yeah, we were outside, man, I was
- 53:05Speaker 3: that's all about to say. You gotta put me in
- 53:07Speaker 3: different conversations. Like right, I was on Brandy Show like
- 53:12Speaker 3: two weeks ago. We did last weekend. What we do
- 53:15Speaker 3: before that we did Jonas Brothers, Like, you know, it's
- 53:20Speaker 3: just any stage. I'm on too many stages for ray
- 53:22Speaker 3: j D. Even he can't come on.
- 53:24Speaker 9: You know, it's up big ship, Big Mario and not
- 53:27Speaker 9: Luigi brother, like stop playing, let's play.
- 53:31Speaker 3: Wait, I'm not a question, yeah question.
- 53:35Speaker 8: You just did it here and it made me think
- 53:36Speaker 8: of it when you came out at the Brandy and
- 53:38Speaker 8: Monica show.
- 53:38Speaker 6: You think Brandy but not Monica.
- 53:41Speaker 3: It wasn't even not it wasn't even that type of thing.
- 53:44Speaker 8: It wasn't even tried to make it a thing on
- 53:45Speaker 8: excellent just say that Brandy, And I'm like, was that
- 53:48Speaker 8: like what?
- 53:49Speaker 3: Nah? Shout out to Monica. Bro, there's nothing, It's I
- 53:52Speaker 3: came out on Brandy set. You know what I'm saying.
- 53:54Speaker 3: So I was just giving like, yeah, it was nothing.
- 53:57Speaker 3: First of all, Monica is amazing. I love Monica like
- 53:59Speaker 3: me and like every time like like it's something dope
- 54:03Speaker 3: on like she always comment on her. I come like
- 54:05Speaker 3: it's all love, like that's gang. So like, yeah, I
- 54:08Speaker 3: think these narratives. It's yeah. And in the moment, like
- 54:12Speaker 3: when you're on stage, in the moment sometimes you just
- 54:14Speaker 3: like trying to remember everything and be present, like you
- 54:16Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But yeah, it's nothing. I'm happy
- 54:19Speaker 3: to see both of them on tour, even when I
- 54:21Speaker 3: post it. When I was on the stage, I congratulated
- 54:24Speaker 3: both of them like I gave them both flowers. Yeah,
- 54:27Speaker 3: so people just be taking it out of proportion, man,
- 54:30Speaker 3: trying to make me an R and B villain. Man,
- 54:32Speaker 3: I don't want to now embrace it.
- 54:37Speaker 6: That one was unfair adel because yeah.
- 54:40Speaker 5: By the way, about the shadows side though, when you
- 54:44Speaker 5: feel comfortable over.
- 54:45Speaker 3: There, I'm not trying to embrace that me and I'm
- 54:50Speaker 3: me embracing that. It's different, bro, from it's not. I
- 54:55Speaker 3: don't need like, I don't need drugs to be dark.
- 54:57Speaker 3: I don't need like I don't want to be I
- 55:00Speaker 3: don't want to go there. I did. I don't want
- 55:02Speaker 3: to go there no more. I don't want to go
- 55:04Speaker 3: there because I can't. What if I like it, That's.
- 55:08Speaker 4: What I'm saying A little. That's the scared part when
- 55:11Speaker 4: you don't want to be there, you know, I feel.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Good, like what if I like it?
- 55:15Speaker 3: And then it's now I got to create this whole
- 55:17Speaker 3: other thing around me And it's like, nah, bro, I listen,
- 55:21Speaker 3: I got too many blessings in my life right now
- 55:23Speaker 3: to me, things that I'm creating, great partners that are
- 55:27Speaker 3: just like wanting to like invest in things I'm doing.
- 55:30Speaker 3: I too much. This is too much to lose.
- 55:32Speaker 4: I'm happy for you, brother, I appreciate it. I really
- 55:34Speaker 4: enjoyed this conversation.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Let's do it.
- 55:36Speaker 4: Hearing you do the work is good.
- 55:37Speaker 3: You want yeah, yeah, weide. I just want to make
- 55:41Speaker 3: sure you're missing nothing. Mood swings out right now.
- 55:45Speaker 4: You know.
- 55:46Speaker 3: Everybody having mood swings right now, you know, and it's hey, move,
- 55:49Speaker 3: invite the mood swings, balance it out, enjoy it. You know,
- 55:53Speaker 3: Let's get back to love. Let's keep R and B alive, Bros.
- 55:56Speaker 3: R and B is such an important genre, you know.
- 55:59Speaker 3: It allows us to explore love, and it allows us to
- 56:02Speaker 3: explore intimacy, allows us to have fun, and we can
- 56:05Speaker 3: have different conversations in it. It's just it's just all
- 56:08Speaker 3: encompassing genre. I wouldn't want to pick any other genre.
- 56:10Speaker 3: Moose swings out right now. I don't even know what
- 56:12Speaker 3: to play of it. We could play home, we could
- 56:15Speaker 3: play have y'all heard the EP yet? All right? Cool?
- 56:17Speaker 3: When y'all get a chance press play when you get
- 56:19Speaker 3: back to the crib, that thing.
- 56:23Speaker 4: But you ad.
- 56:26Speaker 3: Yo play all right, cool cool, let's hear nobody but nobody,
- 56:29Speaker 3: but yeah, yes, the breakfast club is Mario. Hold on,
- 56:33Speaker 3: every day, wake up the breakfast club.
- 56:37Speaker 4: You don't finish for y'all done.