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- Lucas: So a group of Snap alumni just launched something called Ghost Angels — and it's not quite a traditional venture fund. The headline is that they're giving dozens of former Snap employees money to invest as individual scouts in early-stage AI startups. I think this is one of the most interesting structural experiments in seed-stage investing right now. Luna: Ghost Angels — I saw that headline on TechCrunch this morning. It's basically a scout fund, but writ large. Usually a VC firm might let a handful of founders or operators write small checks on their behalf. This is different. Lucas: Right. The core idea is that you take a bunch of people who have deep domain expertise — in this case, former Snap employees who built ad products, augmented reality features, content algorithms — and you give them a pool of capital to deploy as they see fit. The fund itself doesn't make the investment decisions. The scouts do. Luna: And the scouts keep a percentage of the carry. So it's not charity — it's a way to align incentives with people who know the space better than most general partners ever could. Lucas: Exactly. And look, this show is possible because of listeners who chip in at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. That small monthly support keeps it ad-free and lets us dive into stories like this one without a sponsor break. So if these conversations are useful for what you're building or running, that's the link. Now, back to Ghost Angels — the scout model itself isn't new. Sequoia's scout program has been around for years. But typically it's a side program for a big firm. Ghost Angels is built entirely around the scout concept. It's the fund. That's a meaningful difference. Luna: Yeah, it flips the economics. Normally a VC raises a fund from LPs, charges management fees, and the partners decide where to invest. Here, the LPs are essentially backing a network of individual investors who each have their own thesis. It's like a venture capital fund that's been disaggregated. Lucas: And the thesis for why it works right now is tied to the AI boom. We're seeing this wave of startups coming out of places like Snap, Meta, Google — former employees who built ai powered products at scale now founding their own companies. The scouts know these founders personally. They've worked with them. So the information asymmetry is huge. Luna: Which means better deal flow and better due diligence. A scout who spent four years building Snap's ad platform can evaluate an AI ad-tech startup more accurately than a generalist VC who reads a pitch deck and runs a few reference calls. Lucas: Right. And that's the bet Ghost Angels is making — that a network of operators will outperform a handful of partners on early-stage AI deals. The question is whether the economics hold up. If each scout writes five or six checks of fifty to a hundred thousand dollars, the fund needs a few big winners to generate returns. But the fee structure has to be lean because you're not paying a big GP team. Luna: And the scouts are motivated by carry, not salary. So the fund can charge lower management fees, which LPs like. It's a model that's especially appealing in a market where everyone is complaining about high fees and mediocre returns. Lucas: Speaking of the market — look at some numbers from this week. Shopify up fifteen percent in five days. Ark Genomics up nearly thirteen percent. There's clearly capital flowing into growth and innovation stories. But the IPO market is still selective. Founders are thinking about liquidity more creatively than ever. And that's where the scout model connects to the exit conversation. Luna: How so? I mean, a scout check is usually seed-stage. That's years before any exit. Lucas: Sure, but the relationship between early investors and later-stage exits is getting compressed. A scout who backs a founder at the idea stage can help that founder navigate the entire lifecycle — introductions to Series A investors, advising on acquisition offers, even connecting them with secondaries buyers if the company stays private for a decade. The scout becomes a long-term ally, not just a check writer. Luna: So it's not just about finding the next OpenAI. It's about building a support system that improves the odds of a successful exit, however that happens. Lucas: Exactly. And Ghost Angels is explicitly focused on AI startups. That's a smart bet, because AI is where the most value creation is happening right now, but it's also the space where the most noise exists. Having scouts who can separate signal from noise is a real advantage. Luna: I wonder how the LPs feel about that concentration risk. A fund that only does AI seed deals is going to have a very correlated portfolio. If there's an AI winter, even for a couple of years, that fund could get hurt badly. Lucas: That's the trade-off. But the counterargument is that AI is not a sector — it's becoming a layer of all software. So a scout investing in an ai powered logistics startup and another scout investing in an ai driven biotech company are actually in very different markets. The correlation might be lower than it looks. Luna: Fair point. And if the scouts are as diverse as the former Snap employee base — engineers, product managers, designers, ad sales people — their networks probably span different industries too. Lucas: Yeah. I think the bigger question is whether Ghost Angels can scale. Right now it's a relatively small fund — I've seen estimates around fifty to seventy million dollars. That's enough for a few dozen scouts to write checks for a couple of years. But to prove the model, they need at least one breakout exit. A company that goes from a scout's check to a billion-dollar valuation or a major acquisition. Luna: And that could take five to ten years. So patience is required. But in venture, the funds that do best are often the ones that can wait. Lucas: Right. And if the scout model delivers better returns than traditional seed funds, we'll see more of them. It's not hard to imagine a Ghost Angels for fintech, or for climate tech, or for defense tech. The same logic applies wherever operator expertise matters. Luna: So for founders listening — if a Ghost Angels scout reaches out, what should they think? Is it better than a traditional angel check? Lucas: I think it's comparable to a smart angel check, but with a few advantages. The scout has the fund's brand behind them, which can help with recruiting and future fundraising. And the scout themselves is usually a former operator who can actually help you build. The downside is that scouts don't always have deep pockets for follow-on investments. If you need a big pro-rata in the next round, a traditional VC might be better. Luna: So it's a tool in the toolbox, not a replacement for everything. Makes sense. Lucas: Exactly. And we're seeing more of these targeted, thesis-driven models because the venture industry is finally acknowledging that generalist funds can't cover every niche well. Ghost Angels is a sign that the market is maturing — investors are getting more specific about where they have an edge. Luna: Which is good for founders, because you get investors who actually understand what you're building. Lucas: Yeah. And that, I think, is the lasting takeaway. The best capital is smart capital. Ghost Angels is trying to manufacture that at scale. Luna: Let's see if it works. We'll check back in a few years. Lucas: We will. For now, it's a fascinating experiment worth watching.