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A.J. Brown SHINES at Patriots-Eagles Joint Practice, Vita Vea gets PAID, NFL Training Camp Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff three and now podcast. Hopefully everyone
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Speaker 1: is doing well and enjoying life. We've got more preseason
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Speaker 1: games coming. Get ready buckle up. So some teams might
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Speaker 1: play their starter or some teams probably are not going
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Speaker 1: to so you just you never know what you're gonna get.
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Speaker 1: It's like those toys that used to come in cereal
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Speaker 1: for us nineties. I was an eighties baby, but those
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Speaker 1: of us that grew up in the nineties, you'd reach
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Speaker 1: down in the cinnamon toa's crunch and you never you
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Speaker 1: never knew what toy was gonna come, or a happy meal.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like the preseason. It's like Aaron Rodgers
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Speaker 1: could play, or it's like could not. You just turn
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Speaker 1: on the TV and keep your fingers crossed. Uh. And
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Speaker 1: that goes for all the games. But we got a
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Speaker 1: lot going on, a lot of football stuff. We'll hit
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Speaker 1: on it all. So from AJ Brown to this college
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Speaker 1: rule that's some of these guys in training camp might
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Speaker 1: go back to college NFL training camp when they get cut,
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Speaker 1: they might go back to their college like that. Get
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Speaker 1: ready for that. It might happen. Do some mailback questions
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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff firing those DMS. Reaction
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Speaker 1: to Pat McAfee is just god online. Some of these
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Speaker 1: media people's like, give it a fucking break, We'll talk
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Speaker 1: about We'll talk about Pat because he's gonna be on.
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Speaker 1: I think they announced another show he's going to be on.
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Speaker 1: to record the podcast on Thursday before some of the
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Speaker 1: night preseason games, so I might do a YouTube video
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Speaker 1: on Friday. You know, if like Fernando Mendoza, Brock Purty,
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Speaker 1: some of those guys play, there's a cop games on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: The Texans I saw today are not going to play
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Speaker 1: their starters. But I got a little dinner I am
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Speaker 1: obligated to do. And I can't, you know, build my
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Speaker 1: Thursdays quite yet around NFL football. But don't worry, don't worry,
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Speaker 1: it's coming. Let's let'stab it in. Well, let's just start
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Speaker 1: with AJ Brown, who had a very fruitful career with
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Speaker 1: the Eagles, got paid a bunch of money, produced a
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Speaker 1: bunch of high level stats, won a bunch super Bowl
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Speaker 1: champ went to another Super Bowl, playoffs every single year
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Speaker 1: was there. They were extremely extremely successful and he was
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Speaker 1: a major reason for it. Obviously, last year fell apart.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure if if you google it
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Speaker 1: or you're on social media, you saw some clips. Turns
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Speaker 1: out he had a great day to day, his best
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Speaker 1: and most productive day of training camp. A motivated individual,
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Speaker 1: a lot like Baker Mayfield, big chip on his shoulder,
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Speaker 1: came in sing. But all the talk was after in
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Speaker 1: the interviews with him and other players on the Eagles
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Speaker 1: was about communication. And Jalen Brown, who got traded to
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Speaker 1: the Sixers, did a press conference and was asked, have
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Speaker 1: you talked to Jason Tatum since you've been traded and
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Speaker 1: his response was no. AJ Brown was asked the same
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Speaker 1: question in regards to Jalen Hurts. Have you guys spoken
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Speaker 1: two letters? And oh? Devonte Smith was asked about AJ
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Speaker 1: Brown if they've spoken, he said no. There was a
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Speaker 1: clip of him running out to practice not saying hi
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Speaker 1: or talking to anybody, and it kind of baffles me.
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Speaker 1: You know, we've all been in different environments in the workforce,
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Speaker 1: you're not friends with everybody. Sometimes you start having a
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Speaker 1: good relationship and over time it kind of deteriorates. And
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Speaker 1: when you leave a company or go somewhere else, there
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Speaker 1: are probably certain people you talk with or keep communication with.
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Speaker 1: There are probably a lot that you do not, and
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Speaker 1: some of those people you work hand in hand. I
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Speaker 1: think professional friendships are kind of overrated. I truly believe
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Speaker 1: that in a perfect world, would you be best friends
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Speaker 1: with your partner, would you have beers with everyone you're
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Speaker 1: working with once a week? Would you have great camaraderie
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Speaker 1: and be thickest thieves and clothes like brothers and sisters. Sure,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the real world. That usually doesn't happen. Tom Brady,
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Speaker 1: Gronkowski and Edelman are not normal. You knew weren't hanging
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Speaker 1: out Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison. So this notion that
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Speaker 1: you have to be really close friends to be productive
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Speaker 1: on the football field, to me, it's kind of laughable. Now,
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Speaker 1: clearly whatever was taking place down the stretch of that
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Speaker 1: relationship of AJ Brown in Philadelphia had come had broken
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Speaker 1: so far that there was no putting it back together.
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Speaker 1: But like, you know, I think you see this a
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Speaker 1: lot with women more than us guys, right, I mean,
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Speaker 1: for the most part, when I see my buddies, the
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Speaker 1: memes on social media are always dead on, like what'd
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Speaker 1: you guys talk about? Is he dating anybody? How's his kids?
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Speaker 1: And you're just like, well, I was talking about like
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Kurt Signetti, the stock market and
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Speaker 1: our golf shots. I mean, we didn't get that deep,
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Speaker 1: you know. And I've seen my own wife and girls
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Speaker 1: i've dated over the years, you know, run through serious friendships.
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Speaker 1: It's like one day it's like this is the closest
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Speaker 1: person in your life. Two years later, they don't talk.
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Speaker 1: R It happens less to us. But I think sometimes
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Speaker 1: in a professional setting, you know, money's involved in a
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Speaker 1: profession like the NFL, fame and the public access plays
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Speaker 1: a big, big role that most of us, in most
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Speaker 1: of our jobs don't have to deal with. Like, no
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Speaker 1: one knows that you hate the it guy, No one
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Speaker 1: knows that you think the CFO is a clown and
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Speaker 1: might bankrupt the company. Right, It's just they deal in
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Speaker 1: a different spotlight, you know, it's a public facing job,
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Speaker 1: and it happens to be currently the biggest sport in America,
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Speaker 1: and a lot more eyes than ever when you factor
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Speaker 1: in social media are just keeping close tabs on this.
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Speaker 1: I actually yesterday I shot John Schneider at text and
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Speaker 1: I was like, do you know what really stands through
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Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks is the chemistry and cohesion your guys have,
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Speaker 1: Like and I get it. You know, if it was
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Speaker 1: just they had been a bad team and you're watching this,
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Speaker 1: it'd be your classic, like, wow, it's Hard Knocks. Well
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Speaker 1: we don't. They just won the Super Bowl, like we
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Speaker 1: know it works. They just they just beat the shit
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Speaker 1: out of the Patriots, beat the Rams in the NFC Championship,
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Speaker 1: and curb stomp the Niners twice in three weeks. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've seen their chemistry and it's evident when you watch
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Speaker 1: on you know, on the show and even a clip
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Speaker 1: like a promotional clip. Richard Sherman was at practice because
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Speaker 1: he was doing a bunch of interviews for his podcast
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Speaker 1: here in the volume, and he was even talking to
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. He's like, this is crazy, how close and
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Speaker 1: good of guys you have? Like this is not normal
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Speaker 1: because it's not. Historically a lot of teams that won
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Speaker 1: in all these different sports had people that didn't like
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Speaker 1: them each other, had people that didn't get along, and
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Speaker 1: maybe their relationships started okay and then fractured over time.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to life. So I listen. I think it's least
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Speaker 1: shocking thing of the week is that AJ Brown would
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Speaker 1: be motivated to practice against the Philadelphia Eagles, even though
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Speaker 1: a lot of the guys clearly he's not high on
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Speaker 1: or on the other side of the ball. But his
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Speaker 1: only way is like an f you to the organization,
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Speaker 1: would be to attempt to physically dominate, which also, if
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Speaker 1: I was a Patriot vant, it's like, well, you know,
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Speaker 1: historically this program and this operation we were held the
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Speaker 1: high standards, whether we were joint practices or whether we
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Speaker 1: were just practicing like that. That probably wouldn't fly in
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Speaker 1: the Belichick era, But I do understand it. I just
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Speaker 1: think we make too big a deal over friendships and sports.
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Speaker 1: Your jobs to win, your jobs, to produce. If you don't,
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Speaker 1: you get cut right. And ultimately Aj got traded because
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Speaker 1: he got out of down year. If is AJ traded,
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Speaker 1: if he just has one hundred and ten catches and
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Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns. Good luck trying to trade that, you know,
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Speaker 1: good luck trying to justify that one. Good luck trying
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Speaker 1: to convince how he's like, yeah, we just got to
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Speaker 1: get this guy out of here. Yeah, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: we gotta figure this one out. So this stuff, I
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Speaker 1: think gets overanalyzed even though it's fun, and it just
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Speaker 1: becomes so serious in their relationship. It's like it's like
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Speaker 1: talking about girls. Another thing I saw was Chris Ballard.
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Speaker 1: He said it's not on Anthony Richson. I actually clicked
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Speaker 1: on the YouTube. This video was going that Chris as
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Speaker 1: a podcast and they had Chris Bollard on and he
9:05
Speaker 1: right when I clicked on, they were talking about Anthony
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Speaker 1: Richardson and his quote was it is not his fault
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Speaker 1: that we drafted him, it was ours. And I just thought, like,
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Speaker 1: we get so. And I am not as aggressive as
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Speaker 1: some of these people. I was telling someone the other
9:24
Speaker 1: day was asking me for advice kind of like to
9:27
Speaker 1: do topics and different things in the podcast world, and
9:30
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm always very very comfortable being
9:32
Speaker 1: critical of coaches and executives. I am way less like
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Speaker 1: just because you have a drop, what am I supposed
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Speaker 1: to say, like loser cut him, Like yeah, you shouldn't
9:43
Speaker 1: have a drop, But like it's the NFL. It's you know,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or Caleb Williams throwing a hundred mile an
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Speaker 1: out of fastball, like you try to catch it. It's hard,
9:55
Speaker 1: you know with it like fumble happens. Yeah, it sucks,
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Speaker 1: you know. I think the NBA culture is just constantly
10:01
Speaker 1: everyone that talks about basketball is just to pull their
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Speaker 1: pants down and take a giant shit all over the players.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, I played pickup who's most
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Speaker 1: of my life, Like, I don't think many people could
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Speaker 1: do what these guys are doing right now. Obviously there
10:14
Speaker 1: are bad games and bad performances, but I just think
10:18
Speaker 1: I've always been way more comfortable in my career, and
10:22
Speaker 1: I think my career cent is because I gloves off.
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Speaker 1: I ain't trying to get back in this league. Haven't
10:27
Speaker 1: for fifteen plus years. And if I see something that
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Speaker 1: I have an opinion on with one of the coaches
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Speaker 1: and definitely one of the executives, I got no problem
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Speaker 1: letting it fly because it's way easier to become a
10:38
Speaker 1: GM or a coach, an assistant coach, a head coach
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Speaker 1: than it is to play football in the NFL. I
10:45
Speaker 1: promise you that one. And I think sometimes these players
10:48
Speaker 1: like JJ McCarthy can't play well. Yeah, there were a
10:51
Speaker 1: lot of question marks on him. You know, when he
10:53
Speaker 1: was at Michigan, he had a team full of twenty
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Speaker 1: one other NFL pros. He hit Jim Harbaugh, who was
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Speaker 1: his head coach. They won a game where he didn't
11:01
Speaker 1: have two pass in the second half. You know who
11:05
Speaker 1: also pulled off one of those feats, Jimmy Garoppolo. You
11:09
Speaker 1: know who we've never said that about, like Peyton Manning
11:11
Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers won a game where they had seven
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Speaker 1: pass attempts, because you would never play like that with them.
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Speaker 1: No different than like Steph Curry or Kobe Bryant's, like
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Speaker 1: he only had two shot attempts. No, that's never gonna
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Speaker 1: happen no matter the game. Obviously, different games are gonna
11:26
Speaker 1: have and ask for different things of a player. But
11:30
Speaker 1: that's unheard of, and that to me, spoke to the
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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy experience. Anthony Richidson started like thirteen games in
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Speaker 1: college and was banged up, and beside a couple of performances,
11:41
Speaker 1: it was basically just all based on well, he could
11:44
Speaker 1: be the next Josh Allen. I got news for you,
11:48
Speaker 1: probably not gonna find another Josh Allen. Right, you know,
11:52
Speaker 1: forever in the NBA it was like we're gonna this
11:53
Speaker 1: is the next Draymond Green. There was like seventy of them.
11:56
Speaker 1: None of them turned out to be the next Raymond Green.
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Speaker 1: So sometimes unique player and I'm not comparing Draymond's not
12:01
Speaker 1: as good as Josh. But my point is that when
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Speaker 1: someone hits in the draft's like, well, we can do it.
12:06
Speaker 1: It's like the Ty Simpson thing. It's like, well, they're
12:09
Speaker 1: winning with Purty. If they could redo the draft, they
12:12
Speaker 1: would have no problem taking Perty at thirteen. So we
12:14
Speaker 1: got the thirteenth pick, let's take Ty Simpson. Like I do,
12:18
Speaker 1: think it's a little crazy. I'm not gonna change my
12:20
Speaker 1: opinion just because he went twenty one or twenty five
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Speaker 1: in a game. But that's kind of how the draft works.
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Speaker 1: It ebbs and flows on recent situations. Right, Russell Wilson
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Speaker 1: changed the game forever. A bunch of quarterbacks sub six
12:34
Speaker 1: foot started getting drafted left and right. That never happened
12:37
Speaker 1: in the history of the draft. Tie, but once one
12:39
Speaker 1: guy has success, you kind of follow it, and you
12:42
Speaker 1: can tell me quarterback inflation all you want, but like
12:46
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, some of these quarterback inflations,
12:49
Speaker 1: you make some decisions in inflationary times, it can backfire
12:53
Speaker 1: and using draft capital really really high on these quarterbacks,
12:58
Speaker 1: it can just be detrimental to your future. And it
13:02
Speaker 1: is not Anthea Richard's fault that he has no touch
13:06
Speaker 1: and can't raad an defense. I mean, he was like
13:09
Speaker 1: that in college. Now they were hoping they could change that.
13:12
Speaker 1: They were hoping they could mold it into be seventy
13:15
Speaker 1: five eighty percent of Josh Allen, but they couldn't. But
13:19
Speaker 1: that was their vision of what they thought he could be. Right.
13:23
Speaker 1: Same thing with Trey Lance, I'll never forget in twenty twenty,
13:26
Speaker 1: when California had kicked the forty nine ers out of
13:30
Speaker 1: Santa Clara, Santa Clara County told him they could not operate.
13:34
Speaker 1: Sounds pretty crazy now. It was fucking batshit nuts then.
13:37
Speaker 1: Even though everyone's like, probably the right thing, keep everyone safe,
13:40
Speaker 1: Arizona's like, yeah, we're just hoping you can come here.
13:42
Speaker 1: So they just stayed here and they played the Buffalo
13:44
Speaker 1: Bills on a Monday night football game, which was technically
13:47
Speaker 1: a home game, but they played it in Arizona and
13:49
Speaker 1: Josh Allen eviscerated him, and they had a bunch of
13:53
Speaker 1: injuries that year. They're like, we gotta find a guy
13:55
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen. So they took a guy from North
13:57
Speaker 1: Dakota State who was a one year starter, playing a
14:00
Speaker 1: lot of cal Pauli's in UC Davis's and beating the
14:03
Speaker 1: shit out of them all because you know what, North
14:05
Speaker 1: Dakota State usually does win all their games, you know,
14:08
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes these organizations, we usually blame them, right,
14:14
Speaker 1: if you just don't hit on any picks in the
14:16
Speaker 1: third through the seventh round, we're like, god, these guys
14:18
Speaker 1: can't draft. But usually with a first round or the
14:21
Speaker 1: GM will take some shit. But it's like, oh, the
14:23
Speaker 1: player just blows well, it's like, what was he like
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Speaker 1: in college? Is it because an injury happened? Is it
14:29
Speaker 1: because something intangible like he's not working hard enough, doesn't
14:32
Speaker 1: know what's going on, or he's simply the same guy.
14:35
Speaker 1: Because if he's the same guy. And here's the thing
14:36
Speaker 1: with athletes, unlike me or you, we graduate college, we
14:42
Speaker 1: can kind of do whatever we want. I'm not saying
14:44
Speaker 1: we will have access to get any job we want,
14:47
Speaker 1: but we're not forced to go. It's like, hey, just
14:51
Speaker 1: graduated cal Pauly. This company in New Orleans has drafted
14:55
Speaker 1: you middlecoff and you are gonna sell insurance and you
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Speaker 1: start in a week. So be there, b square rookie
15:02
Speaker 1: many camp starting. It's not how the world works. But
15:05
Speaker 1: when you're a college and if you know future NFL player,
15:09
Speaker 1: you don't control where you go unless you become an
15:11
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. But when you're a high level prospect,
15:15
Speaker 1: you know you're just at the control of the general managers.
15:19
Speaker 1: And like, obviously, I don't think Anthony Richardson's career turns
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Speaker 1: out any different if he goes any other places. He
15:26
Speaker 1: clearly is not good enough, clearly had a bunch of injuries,
15:29
Speaker 1: and obviously the unforeseen circumstance where he shot his eye out.
15:33
Speaker 1: Uh he didn't, you know, inadvertently the thing snapped. But
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Speaker 1: I just think this is one hundred percent Like JJ
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Speaker 1: McCarthy's struggles are one hundred percent on the Minnesota Vikings,
15:44
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's problems are one hundred percent on Chris Ballard.
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Speaker 1: Like that they knew what they were getting and they
15:51
Speaker 1: were hoping on what could be, but hope could get
15:55
Speaker 1: a lot of people in trouble. Uh. The other thing
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Speaker 1: I saw is Aaron Glen, I think did like an
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Speaker 1: in depth article with the with the athletic smart move.
16:07
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta you gotta try to ingratiate yourself
16:12
Speaker 1: to the people before the season gets started, which could
16:15
Speaker 1: be a tough season, especially if Geno Smith looks remotely
16:19
Speaker 1: close to he did last year. Now, in fairness, Chip
16:21
Speaker 1: Kelly all time mailing season might not have been all
16:24
Speaker 1: Geno's fault, but Geno simply didn't play well. This was
16:28
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn when asked if he regrets his approach that
16:32
Speaker 1: he took with the media that covered his team. Here's
16:36
Speaker 1: what Aaron told Jonathan Jones. Absolutely another mistake because I
16:41
Speaker 1: came in and I was already pissed at something else
16:44
Speaker 1: and it had nothing to do with the media, and
16:46
Speaker 1: then I started to think, man, take it out on
16:49
Speaker 1: these guys and gals and for what They had nothing
16:52
Speaker 1: to do with any of it, And it was a mistake. Now,
16:56
Speaker 1: I think you can look at this two ways. One,
16:59
Speaker 1: he knows his jobs on the line, he's gonna need
17:02
Speaker 1: all the support he can get. Last year, like whenever
17:05
Speaker 1: I thought of Aaron Glenn before he became the Jets coach,
17:07
Speaker 1: when I was watching with the Lions, I thought high energy,
17:10
Speaker 1: kind of gregarious, just like uplifting personality, intense former player,
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Speaker 1: but not like some negative angry you know, negative Nancy
17:20
Speaker 1: angry dude, because and I think coaches, when things go bad,
17:24
Speaker 1: you can turn really angry and negative fast. And it's
17:29
Speaker 1: especially if you don't have equity. Right. It's one thing
17:31
Speaker 1: like Andy Reid last year lost a bunch of games.
17:34
Speaker 1: No one cared because he's just been a bunch of
17:37
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, right, But when you've never been a coach
17:40
Speaker 1: and things start going bad, you can kind of find
17:44
Speaker 1: yourself sinking on a ship. And I'll give him credit,
17:48
Speaker 1: like or someone got into his ear or he realized, like,
17:51
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need these guys on my side. At the
17:53
Speaker 1: end of the day. This is entertainment. This is this
17:57
Speaker 1: is an entertainment business. And when you are the head
18:00
Speaker 1: coach of the football team, one you talk to the press,
18:04
Speaker 1: which is really you're just talking to all the different
18:08
Speaker 1: distribution platforms that go viral. The media are just the
18:13
Speaker 1: people sitting there that no one ever sees when you
18:15
Speaker 1: watch a coach's press conference, But you know who does
18:18
Speaker 1: clipped all over social media on all the big distribution platforms.
18:22
Speaker 1: During the NFL week, it's clipped all over the games.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you played early in a game late
18:27
Speaker 1: and you're talking after and the Sunday night in football,
18:30
Speaker 1: Monday night football, it's everywhere. You need to be the
18:36
Speaker 1: face of the franchise, especially when you do not have
18:40
Speaker 1: a quarterback who fits that bill. Right when you look
18:44
Speaker 1: at like the top fifteen eighteen quarterbacks, right, if you're
18:48
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, you're the face of the franchise. But Jared Goff,
18:51
Speaker 1: like when he or Dak Prescott or Matt Stafford or
18:54
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy or obviously all the top guys. You know,
18:56
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you know, Jalen Hurts like Sirianni talks like
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Speaker 1: he's talking right and he's setting the tone or discussing something.
19:05
Speaker 1: But like when the quarterback talks, it holds a lot
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Speaker 1: of weight when you have no quarterback, like the situation
19:12
Speaker 1: the Jets were in last year, all anyone's looking is
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Speaker 1: at is the is the head coach? And I think
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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn. You know, when your team sucks, it's gonna
19:21
Speaker 1: be tough no matter what. But it's just so much
19:26
Speaker 1: easier when you're not fighting these guys one, they don't
19:29
Speaker 1: work for you. They don't give a fuck whether you
19:31
Speaker 1: win or lose, like whatever is going to be more
19:35
Speaker 1: depending on what line of work they're in, whether they're
19:37
Speaker 1: writing columns, whether they're video people, whether they're radio hosts.
19:41
Speaker 1: Like they're in business to do well what they do.
19:44
Speaker 1: They have no control over what you do, zero control
19:49
Speaker 1: right now depending on the markets. Obviously owners read and
19:52
Speaker 1: watch this stuff. But I just think coaches need to
19:58
Speaker 1: realize that, like you can utilize it. Use your personality, right,
20:02
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn has a good personality when you look around
20:04
Speaker 1: the league, Like you know, Mike Tomlin for the last
20:11
Speaker 1: a while, it is not gone that well. They have
20:15
Speaker 1: lost a ton of games. I'm not even talking about
20:18
Speaker 1: the no playoff runs. I'm just talking about during the
20:21
Speaker 1: season they would all lose the Browns or lose some
20:24
Speaker 1: shitty team. What was Tomlin gray at at the podium
20:28
Speaker 1: and you know Vrabel like one thing that like they
20:32
Speaker 1: were seeing thing like he's just good with the reporters.
20:34
Speaker 1: He's just good with the attending media. When I say reporters,
20:38
Speaker 1: not everyone's a reporter. I've never been a reporter in
20:40
Speaker 1: my life, and I've gone to these media sessions. But
20:42
Speaker 1: my point is that you have to utilize this advantage
20:46
Speaker 1: when you're the head coach, and you also gotta win
21:03
Speaker 1: another story really quick. Vitaveo got an extension today, which
21:08
Speaker 1: I was pretty low. They gave him a one year,
21:10
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar extension, which includes, the way I read it,
21:14
Speaker 1: a six million. You know, I think he was set
21:15
Speaker 1: to make a little over seventeen million. So this year
21:18
Speaker 1: you add six to that, and then next year you
21:20
Speaker 1: subtract six from thirty. So it's basically twenty three this year,
21:23
Speaker 1: twenty four next year, which feels like an easy deal
21:28
Speaker 1: for Jason Light. I assumed that he was gonna want,
21:31
Speaker 1: like I would have guessed, seventy eighty million dollars guaranteed,
21:36
Speaker 1: like multi year deals. But I listen, maybe he likes
21:40
Speaker 1: being there, clearly does. But that's that's an easy deal
21:45
Speaker 1: if you're Tampa. You know, I didn't think that he
21:48
Speaker 1: would sign something like that just based on trade request.
21:51
Speaker 1: Free agent next year, kind of older player, but yeah,
21:55
Speaker 1: win win. There one story I was I got a
22:00
Speaker 1: call from a buddy last week who was on the
22:02
Speaker 1: road who had just hit a bunch of big power
22:04
Speaker 1: for schools, And you know, I was in Newport and
22:08
Speaker 1: I had a few cocktails and we were bs and
22:11
Speaker 1: talking about a bunch of stuff, and he told me
22:13
Speaker 1: that a program had told him to get ready that
22:19
Speaker 1: they're holding roster spots. This is a program that would
22:22
Speaker 1: be considered a top twenty five to thirty program in
22:25
Speaker 1: the country. And they are not alone, he said. Then
22:27
Speaker 1: he started asking around, and a ton of schools are
22:29
Speaker 1: doing this. Because if you are a dude, if you
22:36
Speaker 1: came out in twenty twenty two of high school, so
22:39
Speaker 1: you graduated in twenty twenty two in high school and
22:43
Speaker 1: got to college in the fall of twenty twenty two,
22:46
Speaker 1: and now we're in the NFL, you know on a
22:49
Speaker 1: training camp you are going to be eligible to return
22:52
Speaker 1: to college based on all these lawsuits and litigations. I'm
22:57
Speaker 1: not exactly sure how that's possible. I just know, and
23:02
Speaker 1: these programs just know that it's going to be possible.
23:06
Speaker 1: So essentially, like obviously there are a ton of the
23:08
Speaker 1: guys in that class that are just drafted are going
23:10
Speaker 1: to make NFL teams. They're not coming back to school.
23:14
Speaker 1: This is going to come into play with guys that
23:17
Speaker 1: get cut either do not have a roster spot on
23:20
Speaker 1: the practice squad or a guy that could go to
23:23
Speaker 1: the practice squad, which is a couple hundred grand and
23:26
Speaker 1: the school goes, we'll double that. And unlike on the
23:30
Speaker 1: practice squad when you're just playing on the scout team,
23:33
Speaker 1: you can be the starting guard or the starting linebacker,
23:36
Speaker 1: or the starting whatever position you play at our program.
23:40
Speaker 1: And I think the rule is you have to return
23:42
Speaker 1: to yours to the program in which you came from.
23:45
Speaker 1: So if you went to South Carolina, if you went
23:47
Speaker 1: to Iowa, if you went to Texas, whatever the program is.
23:50
Speaker 1: So they are going to be teams that won't even
23:52
Speaker 1: have these options. But there are gonna be a ton
23:54
Speaker 1: of guys that get cut that fall under that parameter,
23:58
Speaker 1: and based on the judges rulings, are gonna have the
24:03
Speaker 1: opportunity to return to school. And these schools, some of
24:06
Speaker 1: them have prepared to take these kids on. Pete dambl
24:09
Speaker 1: just tweeted a list of some of the players that
24:13
Speaker 1: there's another ruling in place that I think is going
24:15
Speaker 1: to be more kind of macro like it was like
24:19
Speaker 1: sixteen individual players that he talked, but I think it's
24:22
Speaker 1: going to be universal. Again. I don't quite understand what
24:27
Speaker 1: they're arguing, but the bottom line is that those guys
24:31
Speaker 1: are going to be eligible to return, and that is
24:34
Speaker 1: an embarrassment. That is simply put insanity. You can't have
24:40
Speaker 1: spent the last six months in OTAs and then all
24:45
Speaker 1: of an NFL training camp, even if you're the ninetieth
24:49
Speaker 1: guy in the roster, and then return to college. I
24:52
Speaker 1: don't blame these schools because, in fairness to these.
24:55
Speaker 2: Schools, the rules are the rules, and.
24:56
Speaker 1: We're just following them and we go. There are no
25:00
Speaker 1: tampering rules, so you'd be crazy to not try to
25:02
Speaker 1: tamp them. Right. The transfer portals wide open, nil, free
25:06
Speaker 1: for all. I don't blame anyone for like, if there
25:10
Speaker 1: are no rules in business, you're crazy if you're not
25:12
Speaker 1: super aggresive, because if you're not, you're gonna get leafed.
25:14
Speaker 1: If there are rules, you better be careful because it
25:17
Speaker 1: can go Mark Walters pretty quick. I just know these
25:20
Speaker 1: conference commissioners, in my opinion, are gonna need a draw
25:23
Speaker 1: line in the sand and say this will not be allowed.
25:27
Speaker 1: Anyone that just spent the month of August and late
25:32
Speaker 1: July in an NFL training camp is not permitted to
25:34
Speaker 1: play in our conference. So from PETD to Sankie to
25:39
Speaker 1: I don't even know the other two commissioners, but to me,
25:42
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to, you know, bind together. This is
25:45
Speaker 1: a big, big deal because once this precedent gets set,
25:49
Speaker 1: it kind of feels that it started happened last year
25:51
Speaker 1: with college basketball. It's like, well, this guy's played a
25:53
Speaker 1: couple of games in the G League. You can never
25:55
Speaker 1: have played in the G League and then come back
25:57
Speaker 1: to college. That can't be. That just can't be okay,
26:01
Speaker 1: Just like you can't have been in an NFL training camp,
26:04
Speaker 1: going to meetings, going to practice lifting, being a LA
26:08
Speaker 1: Ram or being a Dallas Cowboy or being any of
26:11
Speaker 1: these teams and then to return to your conference and
26:13
Speaker 1: start Week one or return to your school. It just
26:18
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be on the commissioners because the coaches
26:20
Speaker 1: and the gms of the schools will not care. Obviously,
26:23
Speaker 1: the NFL team has nothing they can do. Right, It's like, hey,
26:27
Speaker 1: you can be on the practice squad or it's like, well,
26:30
Speaker 1: I can get five hundred and fifty grand and start
26:32
Speaker 1: at right tackle for you know, the school that I've
26:36
Speaker 1: just been at the last two years. So I think
26:39
Speaker 1: this story, which is clearly gaining some momentum, it's it's
26:43
Speaker 1: just a hypothetical now because all these guys literally still
26:46
Speaker 1: are training camp. So is this something to keep an
26:49
Speaker 1: eye on. I do think I get we got to
26:52
Speaker 1: fracture the conferences that they're all at each other's stroats,
26:56
Speaker 1: talking shit back and forth. This is one It's almost
26:59
Speaker 1: like a meeting of the five families. There has to
27:01
Speaker 1: be a meeting, like I don't care about the lower conferences,
27:05
Speaker 1: doesn't that's their own problem. If those guys want to
27:08
Speaker 1: return whatever I'm talking about, the Big ten, the SEC,
27:12
Speaker 1: the ACC, and the Big twelve, you could not have
27:15
Speaker 1: Texas Tech or Florida State or Clemson or Iowa or
27:19
Speaker 1: Michigan accepting a guy back that was an undrafted free
27:23
Speaker 1: agent who didn't make the team. That feels like a
27:27
Speaker 1: can of worms that there is no returning. I would
27:31
Speaker 1: argue that's way crazier than all the situations that played
27:34
Speaker 1: out in the NBA. The what was it Auburn or
27:37
Speaker 1: Alabama wanted the one G leaguer. Another dude came from
27:41
Speaker 1: like you know, European professional basketball. That was kind of crazy,
27:46
Speaker 1: the G league thing, but I think way less crazy
27:49
Speaker 1: than this. It's like you've just been gone. You're getting
27:52
Speaker 1: like I'm in the NFL. I mean for majority of
27:55
Speaker 1: dudes that like this is their NFL opportunity, maybe like
27:58
Speaker 1: a year on the practice squad. But the other thing
28:01
Speaker 1: with the practice squad is there's no guarantee they can
28:03
Speaker 1: cut you any moment. So the guaranteed from the NIL
28:07
Speaker 1: is a way better deal. Last, but not least, before
28:10
Speaker 1: we dive into the some male bad questions. I I
28:17
Speaker 1: just hate jealous people. I find and listen. It's human nature.
28:21
Speaker 1: If you're down and out and you're single, and you
28:24
Speaker 1: look and you see your ex girlfriend online living a
28:28
Speaker 1: great life dating or married to some rich guy, you know,
28:32
Speaker 1: it's easy to feel down on yourself. You know, when
28:34
Speaker 1: Jack's having hard days and Maria goes, I don't understand.
28:37
Speaker 1: I see these influencers, their kids sleeps through the night.
28:40
Speaker 1: It's like Maria, just if you're not in a good spot,
28:45
Speaker 1: the internet will only multiply the bad thoughts and you'll
28:50
Speaker 1: just live and bathe in thoughts, toxic thoughts, and it
28:55
Speaker 1: just gets worse and worse. That's why, I mean, Meta
28:57
Speaker 1: is getting sued left and right right now. It's I
29:01
Speaker 1: haven't read the lawsuit, but it's really undebateable. It's not
29:05
Speaker 1: debatable the influence this stuff has on our minds, and
29:09
Speaker 1: no one most industries aren't perennially online, right if you
29:15
Speaker 1: just meet an insurance broker or I meet I guess
29:19
Speaker 1: stock market guys are, but their online look at the
29:21
Speaker 1: stock market and researching. Most human beings in most industries
29:25
Speaker 1: aren't just scrolling Twitter, and I think it's easy when
29:29
Speaker 1: you do that or Instagram if you're not in a
29:32
Speaker 1: great space to get kind of mad. And I see
29:35
Speaker 1: so much Pat McAfee today was named he's gonna be
29:38
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Countdown, so he's got obviously the show.
29:42
Speaker 1: He does College Game Day, he does college games like
29:47
Speaker 1: the simulcast. He's doing the NFL Monday Night Countdown, the
29:53
Speaker 1: postgame who I don't exactly know his role. And he
29:56
Speaker 1: just produced an album and it's funny like all I
30:00
Speaker 1: saw and I just I've only heard the album when
30:05
Speaker 1: he like posted and played the songs like on his
30:07
Speaker 1: Instagram story. I don't understand, like everyone's reaction to Pat
30:16
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent out of envy and jealousy. That
30:19
Speaker 1: they'll try to say it's not it one percent is
30:22
Speaker 1: because they count sixty million dollars. I hear that all
30:25
Speaker 1: the time. It's like, guys, have you ever just clicked
30:28
Speaker 1: on a show, he's like seventy five people operating, He's
30:32
Speaker 1: like ten on set, He's got like twenty five behind
30:35
Speaker 1: the scene. They're paying his business. The other thing is like,
30:40
Speaker 1: is music AI sucked? Okay, there's a the majority of music.
30:46
Speaker 1: Right If we just got on Spotify or whatever the
30:50
Speaker 1: music platforms are and just scrolled every piece of music,
30:53
Speaker 1: the majority of it, I think we'd argue we're not
30:55
Speaker 1: gonna like most of the music you like. In the
30:57
Speaker 1: grand scheme of thing is a small percentage. You know
31:00
Speaker 1: what I do to music, I don't like, I don't
31:01
Speaker 1: listen to it, you don't like the show, don't watch.
31:04
Speaker 1: But all the media people specifically that react and I
31:08
Speaker 1: see like just talk NonStop shit to me, it's just
31:12
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of jealousy. It really is. They don't
31:15
Speaker 1: make as much, they're not as relevant, their careers are
31:18
Speaker 1: going the wrong way his careers like this, he actively
31:22
Speaker 1: kind of talks shit about them. They don't like it.
31:25
Speaker 1: And let's face it, here's the other thing most do
31:28
Speaker 1: you know what they're really jealous of? He can do
31:30
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck he wants. And that's really most people's
31:34
Speaker 1: life goal. Do not have to answer to anybody, to
31:36
Speaker 1: do whatever they want to not have to worry about
31:39
Speaker 1: if I say this, am I gonna get in trouble?
31:41
Speaker 1: And I think a huge part of it now in
31:44
Speaker 1: our society, people are hesitant to say what they actually
31:46
Speaker 1: think because you know, they're little online cult of that
31:52
Speaker 1: most of the people that they kind of casually know
31:55
Speaker 1: will be like, what do you say? This ain't it?
31:59
Speaker 1: It's like none of those people even care that much
32:01
Speaker 1: about you. They don't think about you. They don't pay
32:03
Speaker 1: your bills, they're not gonna drive your kid to school. Like,
32:05
Speaker 1: don't fucking worry what these other people think. And now
32:09
Speaker 1: Pat clearly worries what these other people think, which is
32:12
Speaker 1: which to me is kind of crazy. Uh, Like I
32:15
Speaker 1: understand Aaron Rodgers' grievances. It's like twenty twenty one happened
32:19
Speaker 1: in the fall of twenty twenty one, like that happened,
32:22
Speaker 1: It's like, why did you still bring in it? Why
32:24
Speaker 1: are we still litigating this? Well, if you're him, I'd
32:27
Speaker 1: be litigating this till the day I die because of
32:31
Speaker 1: what came my way. And now a couple of years later,
32:34
Speaker 1: the way everyone talks. So yeah, I mean, if I
32:37
Speaker 1: don't blame him, if I'm pat like, I wouldn't worry
32:40
Speaker 1: about any of these fucking people, not so, but he does.
32:44
Speaker 1: I just don't understand the people that are constantly talking shit.
32:47
Speaker 1: It's like worry about yourself, like make try to do more,
32:51
Speaker 1: try to be more creative, try to gain more, do
32:54
Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do to advance in your own career.
32:57
Speaker 1: But it's so much easier now because before or I
33:01
Speaker 1: was thinking about this the other day. You know, a
33:04
Speaker 1: huge part of technology is are humans wired to just know,
33:13
Speaker 1: Like thirty years ago, when something happened anything, It could
33:18
Speaker 1: be national disaster, it could be something politically, it could
33:22
Speaker 1: be something in sports. You didn't really know what anyone
33:25
Speaker 1: else thought. Besides maybe, like you're depending on how old
33:27
Speaker 1: you were, your family, your wife, some friends at work.
33:30
Speaker 1: Like maybe if you got on the whore and called
33:32
Speaker 1: a couple of people, paper came you knew what the
33:36
Speaker 1: dude that watched the game and the press box thought.
33:38
Speaker 1: But like, now if something crazy happens and it doesn't,
33:42
Speaker 1: just like halftime show, it's like you get seven million opinions,
33:47
Speaker 1: It's like, do we need to know all that? And
33:50
Speaker 1: the answer is no. But most people's opinions, especially on
33:54
Speaker 1: social media, there's just such an anger and negativity. And
33:58
Speaker 1: I said this, if you were the success, you're never
34:01
Speaker 1: going to be successful. I mean, I was lucky growing up.
34:04
Speaker 1: I saw people whose parents or grandparents had started construction company,
34:09
Speaker 1: farming companies, had done well. And I also saw people
34:11
Speaker 1: who were fucking down and out. And there there's just
34:16
Speaker 1: a bitterness I think sometimes with people that maybe had
34:20
Speaker 1: success and then they're a little down and out. And
34:23
Speaker 1: then the people that had success because you're naturally gonna
34:26
Speaker 1: ebb and flow, that are able to keep their head
34:28
Speaker 1: up and stay optimistic and keep on rolling. And I listen,
34:32
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can never talk shit about anybody,
34:35
Speaker 1: but because back to the age of we don't need
34:36
Speaker 1: to like each other. But if you're constantly tweeting and
34:39
Speaker 1: talking about it, it's like Jesus Christ, fucking watch something else.
34:44
Speaker 2: Don't press play.
34:59
Speaker 1: U A couple of mailback questions really quick at John Middlecoff.
35:02
Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms,
35:05
Speaker 1: get your questions answered here on the show. This is
35:09
Speaker 1: from This is from Drew. Why do the Patriots get
35:13
Speaker 1: taken in the woodshed for having an easy schedule last year?
35:16
Speaker 1: Whereas the Bears and Broncos get a pass, and especially
35:19
Speaker 1: the Bears who are getting all sorts of hype cough cough, Colin.
35:24
Speaker 1: What we did last year wasn't a fluke. And yes,
35:27
Speaker 1: I know there aren't gonna be fourteen games this year,
35:29
Speaker 1: but twelve is one hundred percent of possibility. It's a
35:32
Speaker 1: good question. The Broncos just better than you, Like, if
35:38
Speaker 1: you played the Broncos ten times last year, not in
35:40
Speaker 1: a you know, Mount Everest snowstorm in their their starting
35:46
Speaker 1: quarterback broke his ankle that a week before. I just
35:49
Speaker 1: think if they play you ten times, you're winning one
35:53
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. Like this AFC Championship game,
35:56
Speaker 1: but your team, to me, like has some major questions
36:00
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah, I mean I clearly Vrabel is
36:08
Speaker 1: a really good coach and Josh is an excellent offensive coordinator.
36:12
Speaker 1: But I just think it's easy to go. Yeah, I
36:14
Speaker 1: could see them taking like nine wins. If anyone thinks
36:16
Speaker 1: you're gonna suck, they're crazy. But I don't think it's
36:19
Speaker 1: that wild to think, yeah, this year might not be perfect.
36:23
Speaker 1: The Bears like part of it is I think their
36:26
Speaker 1: quarterback took such a huge step and that you'd argue
36:29
Speaker 1: so did yours. But I don't know. I mean, that's
36:33
Speaker 1: a good question. Maybe it's unfair, maybe maybe you're right,
36:36
Speaker 1: maybe right. Colin said the Broncos weren't gonna make the playoffs.
36:40
Speaker 1: I think the Broncos might win the Super Bowl. Bonix
36:42
Speaker 1: is good. I think the Vrabel thing too, I mean,
36:48
Speaker 1: I think that played a part, the Russini Vabel thing,
36:52
Speaker 1: even though it's definitely been quiet on on that front.
36:58
Speaker 1: You also got the shit kicked out of you in
37:00
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I mean absolutely embarrassed, and your quarterback
37:04
Speaker 1: didn't play well in the playoffs all because you can't
37:06
Speaker 1: block anybody. So I think that's a huge can you
37:09
Speaker 1: block anybody? And I'm not anti Patriots, I'm I think
37:12
Speaker 1: v Abel excellent. Coach Josh just one of the best OC's.
37:18
Speaker 1: He's like the equivalent of like Fangio or Spags born
37:22
Speaker 1: to be an oc. There's nothing wrong with that, but
37:27
Speaker 1: was it the second round pick that they got and
37:31
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they found something uh in
37:34
Speaker 1: the knee and his contract has like some clauses in it.
37:38
Speaker 1: That's a little concerning. I saw was all looking the boys, uh,
37:42
Speaker 1: you know, hammering that home. Zolac always kind of in
37:45
Speaker 1: this weird spot. It's like he's the analyst for the Patriots.
37:49
Speaker 1: He was boys with, you know, Belichick forever. But he's
37:53
Speaker 1: also on like the one of the biggest radio shows
37:54
Speaker 1: in America. I mean, they crush it. Radio might be
37:59
Speaker 1: dying some places, mosstonin't one of them. That place is
38:02
Speaker 1: a chi ching cash machine. But yeah, you guys will
38:07
Speaker 1: be fine, especially if AJ is gonna play like that.
38:09
Speaker 1: If you guys play the Eagles every week, fuck, you
38:11
Speaker 1: might get like fifteen to two. What happens to the
38:14
Speaker 1: Bengals they don't make the playoffs this year, Well, coach
38:17
Speaker 1: gets fired. Coach gets fired for sure, Coach fired. I
38:22
Speaker 1: don't know off for that. I'm still not of the
38:25
Speaker 1: belief that they would trade Joe Burrow. I can't see it.
38:28
Speaker 1: I think their owners too prideful, but I think the
38:33
Speaker 1: coach won. Do you know this is Zach Taylor's eighth year.
38:35
Speaker 1: I heard someone say that recently, like what, Zach Taylor's
38:39
Speaker 1: been there eight years?
38:40
Speaker 2: It's insane?
38:42
Speaker 1: No long eight years? Isn't a job? In twenty twenty
38:44
Speaker 1: six question for the mailback, can you speak on the
38:50
Speaker 1: Seahawks going from Pete to Mike? As a lifeling Hawks fan,
38:54
Speaker 1: I was sad to see Pete go while also knowing
38:57
Speaker 1: it was time. But it's pretty clear from the start
39:00
Speaker 1: it seems like we've hit the absolute jackpot with Mike,
39:03
Speaker 1: who honestly resembles Pete in a lot of ways. Defensive guy,
39:07
Speaker 1: loved by his players, very smart, level headed, seems to
39:11
Speaker 1: have a locker room, completely bought in. Culture. Seems to
39:14
Speaker 1: be better than even when Pete was here. Am I
39:16
Speaker 1: crazy to think we have a coach for the next
39:17
Speaker 1: fifteen years? I don't think you're crazy. I think one
39:21
Speaker 1: major difference is, you know, by one Pete hired John,
39:27
Speaker 1: so maybe a changed at the end. I've never asked
39:31
Speaker 1: him about this, but you know John worked for Pete
39:36
Speaker 1: like anytime a coach. When they hired Pete from USC,
39:39
Speaker 1: it was a really big deal. Now it turns out
39:41
Speaker 1: like he knew they were gonna get popped, which you know,
39:44
Speaker 1: a lot of hardbody the same thing. But Pete had
39:49
Speaker 1: so much juice. And then when you win, you know,
39:52
Speaker 1: think about Pete at USC Like Pete was the GM, right.
39:57
Speaker 1: So when you're used to picking the player, you have
40:01
Speaker 1: a lot of opinions, and you have a lot of
40:03
Speaker 1: sway on trades, on free agency and the draft. And
40:07
Speaker 1: I think one major difference is and maybe it changed
40:13
Speaker 1: within the last five years, Like I think John gained
40:17
Speaker 1: a lot of juice and from the Russell Wilson trade
40:20
Speaker 1: up to now, Like I don't think Mike's telling him
40:23
Speaker 1: who to draft. And here's the thing. No coach, no
40:27
Speaker 1: general manager, is gonna draft a player that he knows
40:32
Speaker 1: his head coach, maybe coordinators, whatever. But like if the
40:35
Speaker 1: head coach like this, this is my least favorite guy
40:37
Speaker 1: in the draft, what's the point of drafting him. So
40:40
Speaker 1: you're constantly even if you're in charge, like if you're Howie,
40:44
Speaker 1: like you're working with Sirianni and Fangio, like you're all
40:47
Speaker 1: in this together. But you know, in the draft, in
40:51
Speaker 1: free agency, that's what they do and I think it's
40:54
Speaker 1: much easier, like John's resume speaks for itself, for Mike
40:58
Speaker 1: to come in and be like, listen, man, you've built
41:01
Speaker 1: championship teams with Pete. You had a pretty loaded roster
41:05
Speaker 1: when I got here, Like you cook, I mean, I'll
41:08
Speaker 1: work hand in hand with you, And I honestly don't
41:11
Speaker 1: think that really worked that way with Pete, you know.
41:13
Speaker 1: I just you know, Colin talked about it for a
41:15
Speaker 1: long period of time, and a lot of coaches like,
41:19
Speaker 1: don't just let you cook, you know, like you think
41:22
Speaker 1: George Peyton is telling Sean Payton who to draft. Probably not,
41:28
Speaker 1: because those guys have It's very rare to get into
41:32
Speaker 1: an Andy situation to kind of let Veitch do it.
41:35
Speaker 1: But even that, like Andy's got opinions, you know, especially
41:38
Speaker 1: at certain positions. So I think it's much easier with
41:42
Speaker 1: a younger coach. The thing is, like I I feel
41:47
Speaker 1: like Mike is way more low ego, like definitely than McVeigh,
41:51
Speaker 1: Shanahan or Matt Lafleur. Those guys, I mean all three
41:59
Speaker 1: of them them, their egos are just dramatically bigger than Mike's.
42:05
Speaker 1: I would say, I don't have a great feel for
42:08
Speaker 1: O'Connell's kind of style. You know, Dan Campbell has a
42:12
Speaker 1: pretty good balance. It feels like Ben Johnson and I
42:15
Speaker 1: would say Liam Cohen, I would and having an ego
42:20
Speaker 1: when you're good, it's not a bad thing. Like I
42:22
Speaker 1: feel like they got a kind of got a McVeigh
42:25
Speaker 1: shanahan on the shit thing going on. I feel like
42:29
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald doesn't have that vibe at all. And you know,
42:33
Speaker 1: clearly you have a belief in yourself. But I've heard
42:41
Speaker 1: people I know that have been around him. I just
42:44
Speaker 1: tell you they're like, it's crazy, like his personal skills
42:47
Speaker 1: because it feels a little weird would be the wrong
42:50
Speaker 1: way to put it, but just kind of goofy, you know,
42:54
Speaker 1: goofy in like a football nerdy. I'm a genius way,
42:57
Speaker 1: but clearly good with his players. I would say one
43:02
Speaker 1: of his best attributes is like, I'm not trying to
43:04
Speaker 1: be the president of the entire Seattle Seahawks. I coached
43:08
Speaker 1: the team. I'll chime in on some personnel thoughts, but
43:12
Speaker 1: like I ain't in charge of the draft, for free
43:14
Speaker 1: agency or trades. But Terry on Arnold is a good
43:18
Speaker 1: example because I saw people going well, I get I
43:21
Speaker 1: haven't watched the latest Hard Knocks, but I guess Schneider
43:24
Speaker 1: said that that if Terryan had been on his team,
43:30
Speaker 1: that he would have cut him to even though Seattle
43:33
Speaker 1: just signed him. And everyone's like, well this, how do
43:36
Speaker 1: you What's like you get a divorce your wife from
43:39
Speaker 1: Mary's you know, I mean it happens all the time.
43:44
Speaker 1: People get fired, go on to work somewhere else. You
43:46
Speaker 1: know these situations. When you are in it, it feels
43:51
Speaker 1: a little bit different. And who knows exactly what was said,
43:55
Speaker 1: what was promised, what was told the Lions from Arnold
44:00
Speaker 1: in his camp on the details, and maybe they changed
44:03
Speaker 1: and they felt they couldn't trust them. Well, if you're
44:05
Speaker 1: these other teams, you don't give a shit because you're
44:07
Speaker 1: also they invested a first round pick, so their expectations
44:10
Speaker 1: are super high. When these teams are going after Arnold,
44:13
Speaker 1: even if the kidnapping thing whatever, they just go, hey,
44:16
Speaker 1: if this works out and he gets cleared, great, If not,
44:19
Speaker 1: we ain't paying him any money, no sweat off our back.
44:23
Speaker 1: So it's a completely different approach because of one the
44:31
Speaker 1: financial parameters of how you're getting into business with this dude.
44:36
Speaker 1: Seeatle's got a good thing going on. Man. They are
44:38
Speaker 1: their vibe team. I'm a lifelong Steeler fan and obviously
44:42
Speaker 1: ready for Aaron Rodgers' experience to be done. I do
44:46
Speaker 1: like the kid from Penn State and the way he
44:49
Speaker 1: looked this preseason. What are your thoughts? Why had a large,
44:55
Speaker 1: large bet couple of years ago on Penn State to
44:57
Speaker 1: win the national championship and it's look like in that
45:00
Speaker 1: Notre Dame game, like they're about to go to the
45:02
Speaker 1: National Championship in play Ohio State, who they just went
45:06
Speaker 1: toe to toe with earlier that season, they could win it.
45:08
Speaker 1: And then Aler threw that interception and I was completely
45:12
Speaker 1: out on him. I just I couldn't even Obviously last
45:15
Speaker 1: year was a disaster. I'm just not a Drew Aller guy.
45:19
Speaker 1: I'll give the NFL credit on this one. They do
45:22
Speaker 1: a great job with the quarterbacks. You can just type
45:24
Speaker 1: in Drew Aller, Carson Back, Ty Simpson, whoever, Fernando Mendoza
45:29
Speaker 1: and just watch their place, watch their passes and runs.
45:35
Speaker 1: It's the fourth quarter, so I think he came in
45:37
Speaker 1: in the third but played through the fourth. He didn't
45:39
Speaker 1: look sweet. He had one I think it was a touchdown.
45:42
Speaker 1: It was maybe a completion over the middle where he
45:45
Speaker 1: was like throwing off his back foot kind of looked
45:46
Speaker 1: like Rogers. Living in Philadelphia, I befriended a lot of
45:50
Speaker 1: Penn State people, and they love the Penn State football team.
45:56
Speaker 1: I remember years ago they're like, uh, I forget who
46:00
Speaker 1: Aler replaced it quarterback, but they're like, we got the
46:03
Speaker 1: next Josh Allen, because that was the hype on Drew
46:05
Speaker 1: Aller that he was just again Josh Allen's you class
46:10
Speaker 1: like this is the next steph Curry, Like there are
46:11
Speaker 1: certain players just get comped, everyone who's just like big
46:14
Speaker 1: fast with a big arm. But and I clearly Aler's
46:17
Speaker 1: not that level athlete. But you you just type in
46:21
Speaker 1: NFL type and Drew Aller to the preseason highlets. It
46:25
Speaker 1: did look good. It did look good, way better than
46:28
Speaker 1: I could imagine. And you know, with Jack during August,
46:32
Speaker 1: it's this is probably the least nerdy I've been in
46:37
Speaker 1: many many years of like truly diving in of like
46:41
Speaker 1: kind of keeping eyes on like the guard battle, you know,
46:45
Speaker 1: for the pick A team. You know, I know the
46:48
Speaker 1: main stuff that's going on and for the podcast. But
46:51
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not as nerdy as I was like five
46:53
Speaker 1: years ago to know, like, hey, what's the dB situation
46:57
Speaker 1: going on with the Jags? You know, and I have
47:01
Speaker 1: read multiple times about some headlines, some quotes. Seems like
47:08
Speaker 1: it's been very positive for Drew Aller. Seems like it's
47:11
Speaker 1: been very positive for Drew Aller. So listen, if he
47:15
Speaker 1: turns out to be a good NFL player, to me,
47:18
Speaker 1: the number one thing he would need to do like
47:20
Speaker 1: Canny beat out Will Howard. Canny beat out Will Hower.
47:25
Speaker 1: Like he's physically more gifted than Will Howard. Now, Will
47:29
Speaker 1: Howard's been there a year, but like he beats out
47:32
Speaker 1: Will Howard, I'll be I'll be interested. Because here's the
47:35
Speaker 1: other thing. They're head coach. People can make fun of him.
47:39
Speaker 1: The guy fucking knows offense. Mike McCarthy his offense, and
47:44
Speaker 1: he knows quarterbacks. The guy was winning games with the Cowboys,
47:47
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. So once upon a time when Aaron Rodgers
47:54
Speaker 1: was working in practice, who do you think was leading
47:56
Speaker 1: the charge there? The big fellow from Pittsburgh, Mike McCarthy.
48:01
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep him out on it. I'm not
48:04
Speaker 1: afraid to change my opinion. I am not beholding new opinion.
48:08
Speaker 1: This ain't I'm not Skip Bayles here. If Drew Aller's good,
48:11
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say it. And he did
48:12
Speaker 1: look good in the preseason game. Same thing with Nusmyer,
48:16
Speaker 1: Like I nuss Myer's what's Nussmyer? Well? Unlike last year
48:20
Speaker 1: he wasn't healthy? What was Nusmyer two years ago? A
48:23
Speaker 1: guy that people thought could be like a top fifty pick.
48:26
Speaker 1: The Chiefs get him in the seventh round. You watch
48:28
Speaker 1: him throw like the ball comes out of his hand
48:30
Speaker 1: faster than ty Simpson's. Like ty Simpson does not have
48:34
Speaker 1: the gifts. He just doesn't. There's a lot of unknown
48:37
Speaker 1: with him. He was hitting simple plays and he hit
48:40
Speaker 1: him with ease. So credit where credit is due. But
48:44
Speaker 1: you watch Drew Aller like Drew Aller's in a different
48:47
Speaker 1: universe when it comes to talent, even Nussmeyer is more
48:50
Speaker 1: talented than ty Simpson. Now injuries is he better? Time
48:56
Speaker 1: will tell. The other thing is you know he's pretty
49:00
Speaker 1: high on usm right. I think the Cardinals before Beck
49:03
Speaker 1: got hurt, pretty high on Carson Back. Pretty interesting quarterback class.
49:07
Speaker 1: I mean, Drew Aller was multi year starter at Penn State.
49:10
Speaker 1: Nessmer multi year starter at LSU, Carson Back multi year
49:15
Speaker 1: starter Georgia and then Miami, like these guys were playing.
49:20
Speaker 1: That's that's my issue with Tye Simpson, like he just
49:22
Speaker 1: played the one year. It's like my quarterback to have
49:25
Speaker 1: more reps in college. I'm not a big unknown drafted
49:29
Speaker 1: quarterback guy high. I just I'm out of that business.
49:32
Speaker 1: I am. That's a good part about this quarterback class
49:36
Speaker 1: is like all these guys have played, I just could
49:39
Speaker 1: never in a million years touch a one year starter.
49:41
Speaker 1: Way too risky, way too risky. Do you think Cam
49:47
Speaker 1: Newton deserves to be Hall of Fame? Not a Panther fan,
49:50
Speaker 1: but loved watching him and his unique play style. It's
49:54
Speaker 1: a good question, I would. My first reaction is no.
50:00
Speaker 1: And listen. This is like, is Matt Ryan a Hall
50:05
Speaker 1: of Famer? I think? You know one time MVP both
50:09
Speaker 1: got to a Super Bowl and lost. I think both
50:14
Speaker 1: pretty similar. When they were on, they looked awesome, could
50:17
Speaker 1: have weird years. Cam was a little fickle when he
50:21
Speaker 1: was on. Was when Cam was on, he was unsolvable
50:24
Speaker 1: for us. I remember seeing him live really young at Candlestick,
50:27
Speaker 1: probably like twenty thirteen, so it might have been like
50:29
Speaker 1: a second year. I remember walking by him down on
50:33
Speaker 1: the field like after the game, thinking like, that's one
50:36
Speaker 1: of the biggest fucking guys I've ever seen in my life.
50:40
Speaker 1: How many times did Cam Newton make the playoffs? Was
50:42
Speaker 1: like three? You know, there's just some people it's not
50:49
Speaker 1: apples to apples because this guy got injured. But it's like,
50:53
Speaker 1: no one will ever forget Cam Newton. That's the way
50:56
Speaker 1: I would put it, is he gonna make a Hall
50:57
Speaker 1: of Fame. No, but he'll be a player no one
51:00
Speaker 1: ever forgets. And again it's he It's not a great
51:03
Speaker 1: comparison because this guy, his career was way shorter, part
51:08
Speaker 1: of it was baseball, but like, but no one ever
51:10
Speaker 1: forgets Bo Jackson. Ironically, they both went to Auburn. Like,
51:14
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's just an unforgettable player. Matt Ryan is way
51:18
Speaker 1: more forgettable than Cam Newton. I also have high criteria
51:23
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame, like most of these quarterbacks,
51:28
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't put el in, you know, if Philip
51:31
Speaker 1: Rivers wouldn't put in. You know, when I think Hall
51:34
Speaker 1: of Famers, I think like Joe Montana, Lawrence Taylor, Deon Sanders,
51:37
Speaker 1: you know, Barry Sanders like cream of the crop. Jonathan Ogden.
51:43
Speaker 1: If there's ever a question, the answer should be no,
51:46
Speaker 1: Like this is the this is like the Augusta National
51:49
Speaker 1: of football. It's not everyone. We don't care. You got money,
51:54
Speaker 1: You're not welcome here. It's one of those like, yeah,
51:56
Speaker 1: you made some Pro Bowls? Want an MVP? Cool? Do
52:03
Speaker 1: you think Goodell would get involved over the bears future
52:07
Speaker 1: to keep them in Chicago or does he not care
52:09
Speaker 1: about stuff like this? I would assume he wouldn't want
52:12
Speaker 1: the to be the commissioner to let the Bears leave Chicago. Well,
52:16
Speaker 1: I just saw headline the other day he was meeting
52:18
Speaker 1: with the politicians, which I can't even imagine the You know,
52:23
Speaker 1: a guy that runs a just billion dollar profitable operation
52:27
Speaker 1: meets with that crew of losers. But I just I
52:32
Speaker 1: think in a perfect world they would stay in Chicago.
52:35
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. The Bears don't have any money, but
52:39
Speaker 1: they want to own the thing. So sometimes when you
52:41
Speaker 1: get a sweetheart deal, it's just too good to pass up.
52:45
Speaker 1: So from a financial standpoint, if Indiana is essentially gonna
52:49
Speaker 1: build it for him and allow them to profit off that,
52:53
Speaker 1: that's usually not how it works. It's why the Raiders
52:56
Speaker 1: had to move to Vegas. They didn't really have to
52:59
Speaker 1: pay for it, right, you know, Kronkey paid cash six
53:04
Speaker 1: bill for that bad boy. Guess what he owns it,
53:07
Speaker 1: you know, truly owns it. So you still have to
53:11
Speaker 1: deal with the city. Maybe they say we'd rather deal
53:14
Speaker 1: with Indiana than Chicago. Probably a lot of different variables,
53:18
Speaker 1: but the biggest, the most simple issue is the Bears
53:25
Speaker 1: don't have the money. So unless you convince Chicago and
53:30
Speaker 1: you know, the governor, who's I mean, the filthy rich,
53:33
Speaker 1: that fat guy, filthy rich who doesn't want to be
53:37
Speaker 1: seen as the guy given them independently wealthy like comes
53:41
Speaker 1: from money, is like none of those They're all liberal
53:46
Speaker 1: politicians don't want to be seen as giving the taxpayer
53:49
Speaker 1: money for free, which I get, But I also understand
53:53
Speaker 1: if I'm the Bears, would I just take a free stadium?
53:56
Speaker 1: It's a give and take. I listen to me Soldier Field.
54:01
Speaker 1: The field is always so shitty. It's funny. I ask
54:04
Speaker 1: colonies on the field. I'm like, why is the field
54:06
Speaker 1: always shitty? Like, well, who do you think runs it?
54:09
Speaker 1: The city? You know, So it's like the problem is
54:14
Speaker 1: if it was Stan Kronkey or David Tepper or Steve Balmer.
54:19
Speaker 1: They would just go to Arlington Heights and build the
54:22
Speaker 1: fucking monstrosity and it would be sweet. But I'm also
54:25
Speaker 1: a sucker for downtown stadiums. I think they're just pretty
54:29
Speaker 1: special and it's gonna social field. The field sucks, but
54:35
Speaker 1: the location it's just hard to beat when you're just downtown.
54:40
Speaker 1: That's why Seattle is so unique. The other thing is
54:44
Speaker 1: is for the taxpayer stuff. The money is so big
54:48
Speaker 1: now right to build What do you think with the
54:52
Speaker 1: unions and inflation, Like, what would it cast Chicago to
54:57
Speaker 1: build the type stadium they wanted, regardless he was paying,
55:01
Speaker 1: what would you put the over under it four and
55:04
Speaker 1: a half if Kronky was six in LA which would
55:09
Speaker 1: probably them or New York When you factor in unions
55:11
Speaker 1: and price of labor and stuff, Chicago would be high
55:13
Speaker 1: up there. It'd be less, but it ain't gonna be
55:17
Speaker 1: like one and a half. So I think in Vegas,
55:20
Speaker 1: you know shady money, they can do it for a couple.
55:23
Speaker 1: This one in Vegas was easy. You ever been to
55:24
Speaker 1: a Vegas casino in the last five years? Do you
55:26
Speaker 1: ever look at your bill when you check out the hotel.
55:30
Speaker 1: Every time you stay there, money goes to pay for
55:33
Speaker 1: that bad boy. And they you know, the committee they
55:38
Speaker 1: voted on that, it was like committee of twelve. It
55:41
Speaker 1: wasn't like some vote by the people. So I understand
55:46
Speaker 1: both sides of it. I mean, I don't expect Chicago
55:51
Speaker 1: to change, you know. It's not like Roger has sway
55:54
Speaker 1: whether he can convince them to give the Bears, you know,
55:57
Speaker 1: billions of dollars in taxpayer cash and then let them
56:00
Speaker 1: profit off it, and the Bears will fight back over
56:03
Speaker 1: our how much we're going to give. I mean, the
56:06
Speaker 1: forty nine ers in Santa Clara have been going at
56:08
Speaker 1: it forever. But that's the problem. When you get into
56:12
Speaker 1: business with these cities and you take from them, they're
56:15
Speaker 1: gonna want to take from you. And then it's just
56:18
Speaker 1: you know, you're a business, you care about profits. In
56:20
Speaker 1: some of these cities they kind of hate business and
56:22
Speaker 1: they never want to be looked at the people in
56:24
Speaker 1: business with you. It's a weird thing, it really is.
56:28
Speaker 1: I think it's tied to the money and tied to politics.
56:33
Speaker 1: It's really that simple. So I do believe that Indiana
56:38
Speaker 1: from what I've heard, and just follow in the story
56:40
Speaker 1: and if you just add up some numbers, I mean,
56:43
Speaker 1: it feels like it's very possible. I'm curious to know
56:59
Speaker 1: how the commune munication works between the training staff, coaches
57:02
Speaker 1: gms as it relates to player injuries. Is there a
57:06
Speaker 1: daily meeting for the trainers to inform coaches who is unavailable? Additionally,
57:11
Speaker 1: do coaches ever question if guys can play? And how
57:14
Speaker 1: do you go about releasing that information to the media
57:17
Speaker 1: side note some nice words, I would say, the trainers.
57:22
Speaker 1: Usually there's some sort of coach personnel meeting or loose
57:26
Speaker 1: meeting with the coach and GM and the trainers in
57:28
Speaker 1: the morning, and then there's a more serious like personnel
57:31
Speaker 1: meeting later in the day, and the trainers a part
57:35
Speaker 1: of that. The trainer and the head coach and the
57:37
Speaker 1: GM are probably talking ten times a day beside that,
57:42
Speaker 1: so I would say the communication it is it is very,
57:48
Speaker 1: very tight knit. I would imagine twenty thirty years ago
57:53
Speaker 1: there was rub it in the dirt play. Now with
57:55
Speaker 1: the money, you know the doctors, you just probably way
58:01
Speaker 1: less likely now if the trainers start telling you this
58:04
Speaker 1: guy's faking it right, or this guy could practice and isn't.
58:10
Speaker 1: Obviously every situation is different. But the trainer, I mean
58:14
Speaker 1: Rick Bolberg, Coulter who's the Chiefs trainer, and Andy I
58:17
Speaker 1: mean they they were together all the time when I
58:20
Speaker 1: was with the Eagles. I mean, shit, he's still with
58:22
Speaker 1: them twenty twenty six. So most of these trainers just
58:27
Speaker 1: tied at the hip with the coach in the GM,
58:29
Speaker 1: especially around this time of year. The media thing, it's
58:34
Speaker 1: usually on the head coach in the GM how they
58:37
Speaker 1: want to release. You know, some coaches don't care as much.
58:41
Speaker 1: Some coaches are very I just probably a little overboard
58:47
Speaker 1: on it, and some gms have a lot of sway.
58:50
Speaker 1: It just varies team to team. Some teams just tell you.
58:53
Speaker 1: Other teams are just cloaking dagger, like yeah, he's kind
58:56
Speaker 1: of got something with his knee, and it turns out like, yeah,
58:58
Speaker 1: he's got a cracked kneecap, gonna need a micro fracture
59:01
Speaker 1: surgery and his career is over. You know. I was like,
59:04
Speaker 1: you just said like it might have been like a
59:06
Speaker 1: bone bruise. Some coaches are like, yeah, it doesn't look good. Okay.
59:12
Speaker 1: Last question, should the Rams next offseason tag and trade
59:17
Speaker 1: Pokah Nakua. If it wasn't for his wild behavior this offseason,
59:21
Speaker 1: he would have gotten extended. But is that a blessing
59:25
Speaker 1: in disguise? Not only do they not have to worry
59:27
Speaker 1: about him holding out, they can trade him next offseason
59:30
Speaker 1: and can recoup some picks and have room to pay
59:33
Speaker 1: young Turner and maybe a few other alignments. I know
59:37
Speaker 1: he's maybe the best in the league, but his play
59:39
Speaker 1: style may shorten his career in the Rams are good
59:41
Speaker 1: at developing wide receivers. There is absolutely no way I
59:45
Speaker 1: could pay him. I mean, right now, I think I
59:50
Speaker 1: don't understand why it doesn't happen more in football. Can
59:54
Speaker 1: we just play it out? Can we just play it out?
59:58
Speaker 1: Sometimes you come to a fork in the road. Vidave
1:00:00
Speaker 1: is like, I'm not gonna practice, I'm not gonna create problems.
1:00:05
Speaker 1: But like, clearly, hey Todd, your job's on the line. Uh, Jason,
1:00:11
Speaker 1: you don't want to miss the playoffs again? Trade me
1:00:15
Speaker 1: or we gotta make some financial adjustment. And clearly they
1:00:20
Speaker 1: came we'll make a financial adjustment right to Pookah's It's
1:00:25
Speaker 1: not like he's like, hey, I gotta be paid or
1:00:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold in. So I think it just comes
1:00:31
Speaker 1: down to, yeah, we're just gonna play it out. It
1:00:33
Speaker 1: used to happen a lot more. Just play it out.
1:00:36
Speaker 1: That's that's what I would do. And you could argue,
1:00:39
Speaker 1: like his four months, do you feel comfortable because some
1:00:46
Speaker 1: guys in college have red have red flags, Right, we're dudes.
1:00:51
Speaker 1: Sometimes we're really immature. Then a couple of years later
1:00:54
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he was just he was just immature.
1:00:56
Speaker 1: You got around the right guys. He's been incredible by
1:00:59
Speaker 1: his like second or thirty years, like a team captain.
1:01:02
Speaker 1: Usually though, once you come in the league, then you
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Speaker 1: hit fame and it doesn't go well. That's a gigantic
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Speaker 1: red flag. I'm not even talking about the play style, which,
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Speaker 1: like you said, it's is he gonna be able to
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Speaker 1: maintain that for the next five years. I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: like a way better version of Deebo Samuel. So he
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Speaker 1: just throwing the ball. Everyone falls off him, He's running
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Speaker 1: through tackles. It's fucking nuts, you know. Deebo's built like
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Speaker 1: a running back. So like the one year he had
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Speaker 1: when he was unsoppable, guys would just bounce off him
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Speaker 1: most times, like justin Jefferson, like even Jamar Chase or
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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. If they are getting tackled they go down.
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Speaker 1: Who goes like a pinball. I told a buddy, that's
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver coach. I've been watching the NFL a
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Speaker 1: long time. I don't think we've ever seen a player
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Speaker 1: quite like that. He's one of the most unique players
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Speaker 1: we've ever seen. But this also gets back to they
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Speaker 1: didn't draft him like seventh. They found him in the
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Speaker 1: fifth round. They found Cooper Cup in the third round
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Speaker 1: like they have a long, long history of doing this.
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Speaker 1: You know, they gave Davante Adams twenty million dollars guaranteed
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Speaker 1: he led the league in touchdowns. Sean McVay clearly is
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Speaker 1: really good at identifying wide receivers. I would one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent be open to tagg and trading because how do
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Speaker 1: I recoup the picks that I gave up with Verse
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Speaker 1: to get Miles Garrett. I traded Pooka Nakula. Now DeVante,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think he's signed a two year deal.
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Speaker 1: You would need to revamp the wide receiver room. But
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Speaker 1: I mean if you got a first round first in
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Speaker 1: a second round pick for him, you wouldn't get as
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Speaker 1: much as you think because someone would have to pay
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Speaker 1: him a bunch. I don't think you'd get two ones
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Speaker 1: for him. I think you get like a one and two.
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Speaker 1: I mean they just gave Pick twenty nine for McDuffie.
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Speaker 1: Pooka has been better than McDuffie. I would say through
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Speaker 1: a couple of years, maybe like a one in the three.
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Speaker 1: I think about it when on that audios. See you
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Speaker 1: tomorrow Fugazi Friday, and have a great day. The volume