Latest / Simply Bitcoin / 1% Club of Bitcoin Holders Revealed | EP 822
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- 0:07It's all. Going to zero against Bitcoin,
- 0:10It's going up for everyone. You're against Bitcoin, you're
- 0:20against freedom. Welcome to some of the Bitcoin
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- 0:30the peaceful Bitcoin revolution. Color breaking news, culture,
- 0:32medical warfare. We will be your guide through
- 0:34the separation of money and stay Today we're going to cover an
- 0:37interesting topic. I think I saw someone else
- 0:40making content in relation to this topic and I thought it
- 0:44would. I thought it'd be interesting if
- 0:45they'd be interesting to cover it.
- 0:46But what we're going to do differently is we're going to
- 0:49cover all the sources and the $1,000,000 question or the
- 0:51million sack question. Better said is how much Bitcoin
- 0:55does it take to be in the top 1% of Bitcoin holders?
- 0:59That's the question, right? And there's so many different
- 1:01answers to that, right? Cuz it's like of Bitcoin holders
- 1:05around the world of just overall Bitcoin holders.
- 1:08So we're gonna lay out, you know, all the cases, all the
- 1:11cases that everyone makes. So it's gonna be a really good
- 1:14show. I'm excited.
- 1:16And yeah, it's gonna be fun. And of course I have my
- 1:19legendary cohost with me. He's always optimistic.
- 1:22Giant smile on his face, like always.
- 1:25How you doing? Happy.
- 1:27I'm good, bro. I'm good.
- 1:30The intro. The intro cracks me up every
- 1:32single day. Anyways.
- 1:34I'm doing well. I'm doing.
- 1:35Doing well, great and well. I'm doing Growl.
- 1:38Yeah, what's up? Everyone in the chat I'm doing
- 1:39growl. Too, bro.
- 1:40I'm doing growl dude. It's already early.
- 1:43I'm already getting roasted in the chat.
- 1:44So hey, it's gonna be a good day.
- 1:47But yeah, I'm interested on touching this topic.
- 1:51I know all of you guys out there want a little feel good helping
- 1:54get some dopamine rushes and feel good about your stacks.
- 1:57And then for the people that are new stackers.
- 2:00These are the goals that you're going to have to, well, not have
- 2:03to that you'd want to hit. I mean, in my era it was 6.15,
- 2:07but I think we're in a new era now, Nico, I think this is a
- 2:11new, new, new part of the cycle. But anyways, let's get into the
- 2:15in the show. Guys it's just a button up, but
- 2:19thank you. Thank you.
- 2:20We have Opti is getting professional.
- 2:22Opti is getting. Professional on the regular,
- 2:24anyway. Let's bring in our guest.
- 2:25Let's bring in our guests Bitcoin merch.
- 2:26But someone asked Tyler Dernan asked how about the point 1%?
- 2:29We have the answer to that as well.
- 2:31We we have you covered. We have you covered.
- 2:33Anyways, I want to bring up our very special guest, Anil.
- 2:36He makes amazing content on Twitter.
- 2:38Some of the best. How you doing bro?
- 2:41Welcome to the show. Doing great, chance.
- 2:44Thank you for having me. Appreciate you joining us man.
- 2:48Opti, what are we going to cover during the?
- 2:50Well, I'm going to not only tee up Anil on some of his Bitcoin
- 2:56education work, but we will talk about, I saw you just released a
- 2:59book, some of your other stuff, all the other content that
- 3:02you're doing. And I I think on today's show, I
- 3:06want to kind of dive in on like why Bitcoin with you, Anil,
- 3:10because I know that's one of the big things that you talk about
- 3:12and how everything converges to money.
- 3:15Scarcity, scarce money leads to abundance of everything.
- 3:19I think today is going to be a good lesson for people and we're
- 3:21gonna get them stupidly bullish. I know I said bullish too much
- 3:24today, but I think today, especially considering what Nico
- 3:28is going to cover, I think it'll be a good, like well-rounded
- 3:31episode where we can explain their goals, they're stacking
- 3:35goals and then why we hold Bitcoin.
- 3:37So I think it's gonna be a great show.
- 3:40All right, before we jump into it, is it still, is it still
- 3:446.15? Is this is that still the goal?
- 3:47It it always will be, always will be bro.
- 3:50I know what What do you think? Oh, man, I gotta.
- 3:53Sorry, guys. I gotta, I gotta reject the
- 3:55frame. You know, it's a different
- 3:57number for everyone. OK, OK, OK.
- 4:00Could you could you elaborate? What does that mean?
- 4:02What does that mean? It means that if you tie.
- 4:07In the same it's the same problem with Fiat wealth, right?
- 4:10You're tying your happiness to some particular number that when
- 4:14you get there, everything will be great.
- 4:17And that's just we know that's not true.
- 4:19You know, I think you'll be happier just adopting Bitcoin as
- 4:24a unit of account because you will always see that increasing
- 4:28in what you can buy time. I love that.
- 4:32So it's not a number goal. It's just adopting Bitcoin and
- 4:38then that changes your perspective on the world.
- 4:41I absolutely love that. That makes me wanna change the
- 4:43topic of today's video. But we do not have time to do
- 4:47that. So we're gonna jump straight
- 4:48into it. All right, guys, let's jump
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- 6:453.99%. Those are the numbers for today.
- 6:49I got two videos for you guys. First shout out to Bitcoin fax,
- 6:54thanks for tagging us, he says. Mexican billionaire Ricardo
- 6:58Salinas uses the language that bit Volt 7 uses on his Simply
- 7:02Bitcoin show. Does Ricardo Salinas watch
- 7:05simply Bitcoin, or is Ricolo Salinas an optimist?
- 7:09What? Come on, man.
- 7:13All right. Like is that cuz opti is Mexican
- 7:19like Jesus. No, because I date central
- 7:21bankers. He's a he's a he's not a central
- 7:24banker, he's a billionaire. Billionaire, bro.
- 7:26I'm trying to get close to the money spigot.
- 7:29Opti will do anything for the culture anyway, So this could
- 7:32mean one of two things. Ricardo Salinas watch is simply
- 7:36Bitcoin. I highly doubt that.
- 7:37Or or also, you know, we've always said Bitcoin is this like
- 7:46single pillar of truth in the middle of of of the public
- 7:49square, right. And a lot of people come to it
- 7:52from different angles, right? So different backgrounds,
- 7:56different religions, different anything but you, you, you come
- 8:00to Bitcoin and you find it and and you know you understand and
- 8:04you are you. You start to ask questions and
- 8:08the most fundamental question is you know what is money?
- 8:12Should the state be involved in money?
- 8:15And you start asking very basic questions and that starts ask.
- 8:18That starts making you ask a lot of questions about a lot of
- 8:21things. And one of the theories that
- 8:23we've come up with on simply Bitcoin is that it's not left
- 8:26versus right. We we truly believe that's a
- 8:28divide and conquer strategy. Whichever political parties in
- 8:31power, the issue remains the same.
- 8:33A bureaucratic elite have the privilege of being able to
- 8:36create money for free that everyone else has to work for.
- 8:39They benefit from that the rest of society does not.
- 8:43And if you look at it from that end, that lens, then you really
- 8:46truly understand that it's not Democrat versus Republican, it's
- 8:49not liberal versus conservative. It's it's the party of green,
- 8:53the party of state money, nihilism, poverty, despair
- 8:57versus the party of Orange, which is a party of Bitcoin
- 9:00peace, prosperity and bit and Bitcoin.
- 9:03Right. So you know, I, I I love the
- 9:06fact that Ricardo Salinas is is thinking along the same lines.
- 9:09But I truly believe that anyone who's been in Bitcoin for long
- 9:12enough, you will come to that inevitable conclusion because
- 9:16you know they don't call it the Bitcoin rabbit hole for no
- 9:18reason. Anyways about 15 second clip.
- 9:20Let me play it. Can't hear it, Nico.
- 9:27Yeah, it's weird, man. I can't hear it either.
- 9:32Left and right it's There we go. There we go.
- 9:35This is not a question of left and right.
- 9:37It's it's free and slavery. It's it's it's freedom and
- 9:41responsibility. Or irresponsible theft.
- 9:49Boom. Like, you know, that sounds very
- 9:51familiar, that wording. But again, like, I doubt Ricardo
- 9:55Salinas watches simply Bitcoin. Maybe he does.
- 9:59Maybe we're underselling ourselves.
- 10:00But I would really just like to stick to the conclusion that if
- 10:03you're in Bitcoin long enough, you start asking questions about
- 10:06money. You start asking questions
- 10:08about, you know, the state. You start asking questions about
- 10:11individualism versus collectivism.
- 10:13You start asking. Those are very basic questions
- 10:15that I think anybody who's been in Bitcoin is taking Bitcoin
- 10:18into self custody. Starts asking those questions.
- 10:21Anyways, here is an explanation of as to why Bitcoin is winning
- 10:27by Safe Dean and he is giving a talk at the Soho forum.
- 10:31And mind you, this is before Safe Dean like he was.
- 10:35He was on everyone's radar at this point, but this was way
- 10:38before Safe Dean became the safe Dean that he is today and it's
- 10:44just interesting. He's always been on top of it,
- 10:46so let's check it out. This is what is happening all
- 10:49over the world, You know, with negative interest rates and with
- 10:51the inflation around the world, it's just becoming harder and
- 10:54harder for people to be able to store value in their money in
- 10:57their national currencies. And so Bitcoin is is essentially
- 11:01winning by default right now because nothing else is even
- 11:04trying to be a store of value because.
- 11:06The world is full of Keynesians who think that store of value is
- 11:09a bad thing and that, you know, people shouldn't have a store of
- 11:12value because, you know, the government knows what they
- 11:14should invest in or whatever. So in a sense, Bitcoin is
- 11:16already winning in this regard that is already growing, that
- 11:19this is what is happening all over the world, You know, with
- 11:21negative interest rates and with the inflation around the world,
- 11:24it's just becoming harder and harder for people to be able to
- 11:26store value in their money, in their national currencies.
- 11:30And so Bitcoin is. Is essentially winning by
- 11:33default right now because nothing else is even trying to
- 11:36be a store of value. Because the world is full of
- 11:38Keynesians who think that store of value is a bad thing and
- 11:42that, you know, people shouldn't have a store of value because,
- 11:44you know, the government knows what they should invest in or
- 11:46whatever. So in a sense, Bitcoin is
- 11:48already winning in this regard that is already growing after
- 11:51this is what is happening all over the world, you know, with
- 11:53negative interest rates and with the inflation around the world,
- 11:56it's just becoming harder and harder for people to be able to
- 11:58store value in their money. In their national currencies.
- 12:02And so Bitcoin is is essentially winning by default right now
- 12:06because nothing else is even trying to be a store of value,
- 12:09because the world is full of Keynesians who think that store
- 12:12of value is a bad thing. And that you know.
- 12:14I think it's looping. Value OK.
- 12:16Anyways, passing on to Anil first.
- 12:20Do you agree with Safe A Dean? I mean, I've learnt a lot from
- 12:27him, so. You know, my views in some way
- 12:30are just regurgitating his. Ultimately he taught me
- 12:35economics. So yeah, you know, the negative
- 12:39interest rates in themselves are just that that shit crazy idea.
- 12:43You know, who who would pay someone to borrow money from
- 12:47them? That's insane.
- 12:49It just doesn't compute. So yeah, absolutely.
- 12:52You know, the the more you dig into politics in a Fiat system,
- 12:55you realize politics is purely just reacting to to.
- 12:59Technological innovation, you know, and trying to keep the
- 13:01people happy and fighting against technology deflation.
- 13:07So yeah, it's focus on technology and understand
- 13:13central banking and politics becomes irrelevant 100%.
- 13:17And I think I love, I love that last part, right?
- 13:20Which is politics. I think Bitcoin in the long run
- 13:24makes politics irrelevant. I completely agree.
- 13:27And this is also a theory that was talked about in the in the
- 13:30book The Sovereign Individual, which you referenced many, many,
- 13:32many, many times on simply Bitcoin.
- 13:36I completely agree. But what worries me is not so
- 13:38much in the long term because I agree with you and you know like
- 13:41the I love our chat. I think in the long on the long
- 13:47term I think it it does just that right.
- 13:49It does the legendary BTC sessions in the house.
- 13:53Hey, Ben. So yeah, it does make it.
- 13:56It does make it relevant. But what worries me, what keeps
- 13:58me up at night, so to speak, is the transitionary period.
- 14:01There was a Coin Stories podcast where Natalie Burnell
- 14:05interviewed the Chad Sailor and she asked him what keeps you up
- 14:11at night, and his response always stuck with me.
- 14:14He said what keeps me up at night is that no one cares about
- 14:17sound money. And as long as people don't
- 14:20really care about sound money, they're up by by default.
- 14:23They're opting into politics, they're opting into a political
- 14:27system. I think a lot of people, and I
- 14:29think it's really the cause of the political divide, at least
- 14:32here in the US, where it's just it's so polarized.
- 14:36I think people inherently know that something is wrong with the
- 14:39system. I think that they feel it in
- 14:41their bones. And I think that part of the
- 14:43divide, the reason that it's so aggressive the way it is, is
- 14:47because people are trying to seek a solution.
- 14:49They're they know something's broken.
- 14:51Like, how do we fix this? You know, how do we, how do you
- 14:54know, how do we, how do we get a, how do you know, how do we
- 14:57make this better? Where I think they're wrong is
- 15:00they're seeking a political solution to a nonpolitical
- 15:04solution because the solution is really enough people opting out
- 15:07of the system entirely and then taking back custody of their
- 15:10wealth and putting it into their own hands.
- 15:13So I don't know if you want to add to that nail or we could
- 15:16pass it on to Opti. Yeah, I got to sorry, sorry, Mr.
- 15:19Sailor, I got to disagree with you on that one.
- 15:21Like, I think people do care about sound money, but they only
- 15:26care about sound money after they've felt the consequences of
- 15:30unsound money. And you know, I know Michael
- 15:33Sailor knows this because he uses Argentina as the perfect
- 15:36example of, you know, Argentinians understand sound
- 15:39money because they have felt very real consequences.
- 15:43Of unsound money for a very long time.
- 15:45So you know, it's just unfortunate that we're at the
- 15:49point in this cycle where it's the Western sovereign nations
- 15:54that are going to have to now feel the consequences of unsound
- 15:57money. So you know, we were just lost
- 16:00in the queue. Okay, I like that.
- 16:04I like that. I think it was Jeff Booth.
- 16:07When he came on the show, he said something very similar.
- 16:09He said that, you know, the people that are the farthest
- 16:13away from the monopoly, so to speak, are the ones that are
- 16:17going to 1st adopt an alternative because they're not
- 16:20benefiting from it. And I think that's exactly what
- 16:24we're seeing, whether it's in Argentina and Turkey and
- 16:27Nigeria. But what's really interesting is
- 16:28that a lot of these countries, yes, there's, there's people
- 16:31that are adopting Bitcoin, but a big percentage are actually
- 16:34adopting stable coins, right? So like they're actually
- 16:37adopting like USDT or the USD, Tron or whatever, whatever the F
- 16:42that stable coin part, whatever it is.
- 16:45But a lot of people are choosing to opt into that.
- 16:48Now our perspective on that has always been that it provides a
- 16:51false sense of financial sovereignty.
- 16:54You know, it's not truly, is that on my end, it's.
- 16:59Not me. Yeah, it's you.
- 17:04I think that's on my end. Your house is burning gown.
- 17:08Yeah. Or the states financial
- 17:11sovereignty, You take it away while I try to fix it, yeah.
- 17:15No. Well, first and foremost, Ania,
- 17:18I really love, I really love what you said, cuz I I've been
- 17:22saying it for a while as well. It's very interesting how a lot
- 17:26of the stuff that we're doing here is Bitcoiners is really
- 17:29about like human psychology. And as much as bitcoiners as
- 17:34much as us as bitcoiners, we kind of like Chase.
- 17:38The pleasure and the benefits of Bitcoin, Most people are going
- 17:41to have to feel the pain of the discomfort of Fiat money.
- 17:45And as we see around the world, a lot of people are waking up,
- 17:48or at least as we've kind of been noticing, they're at least
- 17:51sensing that there's a problem in the world.
- 17:54But they of course don't know what the actual solution is.
- 17:57And as safety and would always say, you know, this is by design
- 18:00because Keynesianism is Uber complicated on purpose, so that
- 18:04the average person thinks there's too stupid to understand
- 18:06economics or that, you know, like we should give it to the
- 18:09experts because they'll control it better.
- 18:11They know what they're doing and they've outsourced that
- 18:14understanding of how the economy works.
- 18:18And so we're seeing this happen. And then just kind of circling
- 18:20back to the Ricardo clip, I think something that is very
- 18:24interesting and it's one of my favorite things about Bitcoin,
- 18:27is that once you get to the shelling point of Bitcoin, once
- 18:30you get to the shelling point of understanding Bitcoin, like it
- 18:34all inevitably leads you to the understanding that it's not left
- 18:37versus right, but orange versus green, or as we always say,
- 18:40individualism versus collectivism.
- 18:42And it all boils down to just a basic.
- 18:47Understanding of should we allow a small cabal of people to
- 18:51control the money supply and what are the effects of this on
- 18:54the average person out there? And as we know, the more they
- 18:58expand the money supply, the poorer we all get because we are
- 19:01not close to the money spigot. Hence why we have the running
- 19:04joke that I always try to date central bankers so that I can
- 19:07get close to the money spigot. It's a joke guys, but I
- 19:10appreciate the trolling and and another point, you said, Neil.
- 19:15I also was taught economics via safety, and so he well, it's
- 19:19safety and Pierre Rashard and Bitstein.
- 19:22And I never learned the Keynesian economic system until
- 19:26after I learned about Austrian economics.
- 19:29And now everything. I viewed the world through just
- 19:34the Austrian Bitcoiner lens, and it just, you know, it.
- 19:37It all boils down to human action and that humans act
- 19:39purposefully towards their, you know, their benefit and their
- 19:43own interest. And once you understand this
- 19:46basic economic law or understanding, you understand
- 19:49why you need to do what you can to protect yourself from people
- 19:53that control the money system. And of course they have the
- 19:55monopoly on violence and they are forcing us to use their
- 19:59money. But you can opt into Bitcoin.
- 20:02It's permissionless. You don't have to ask anyone.
- 20:04You just have to make that choice and start to protect
- 20:07yourself. And and this is where we are.
- 20:08And and again, like we say it all the time in in memetic form,
- 20:12you fix the money, fix the world.
- 20:14And yes, we understand that Bitcoin won't fix all of the
- 20:18world's problems. But starting with fixing the
- 20:21money and getting on a hard money standard will inevitably
- 20:24ripple out and fix the rest of the world.
- 20:26So it starts with the money. Guys like it fundamentally
- 20:29starts with the money. Everything revolves around the
- 20:31money and the sooner you understand this, the better your
- 20:34future will be. So you know, that's why we are
- 20:37repetitive of times to tell you guys that you need to take
- 20:42Bitcoin into self custody. This is the most important thing
- 20:45to do. You need to save in Bitcoin, you
- 20:47need some capital and then spread that understanding for
- 20:50more people because still people don't understand what's going on
- 20:53in the world and you do. So I I think it's upon us to
- 20:57keep educating people, keep inspiring people, keep incepting
- 21:00these ideas so that they can also protect themselves.
- 21:03Like this is all we're doing. Hey, man.
- 21:05Yeah, dude. Opti was so on fire that my fire
- 21:09alarm went off. Yeah, man.
- 21:12Ah, man. See, we're doing it live.
- 21:15We're doing it live, all right, guys?
- 21:17Let's move on to the news. We got a lot to cover.
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- 23:17Anyways guys, I want to I want to go through this list.
- 23:20It's very very interesting. This list was made a while ago
- 23:24and it kind of goes through the distribution of wealth.
- 23:27But before I get into that, I just want to echo.
- 23:31Anil's point in the very, very beginning of the video, we're
- 23:33just doing this, you know, for we have an expression here in
- 23:36Miami for shits and giggles, right, Because it's
- 23:38entertaining. It's something to talk about.
- 23:40I think a lot of people, you know, like this is an
- 23:42interesting topic, right? What's what's most important, I
- 23:46completely agree with Anil when he said it in the very beginning
- 23:49of the video, is just migrating to a Bitcoin standard period,
- 23:54right? Your life will improve,
- 23:56especially if you wait about four years or so.
- 23:59If you huddle for four years. Cuz my belief and experience, it
- 24:03truly takes about one cycle to really start feeling the
- 24:09benefits of adopting a Bitcoin standard, but it completely
- 24:13changes your outlook on the world because most people are on
- 24:17a. Deflation.
- 24:19An inflationary operating system.
- 24:21The cost of living continues to go higher and higher and higher.
- 24:25They constantly have to work harder and harder and harder for
- 24:28less and less pay. When you transition to a Bitcoin
- 24:31standard and you start saving in Bitcoin, you start putting away
- 24:34some of your money for the future.
- 24:37Life gets cheaper. That Bitcoin will buy you more
- 24:40with less Bitcoin, and the longer you wait, the more it
- 24:44buys you right. This is very crazy.
- 24:46There's those. Epic memes of people.
- 24:49Like in 2010, like one iPhone cost you thousands of Bitcoin.
- 24:54You know, Fast forward a couple years, you know 10 years later,
- 24:58it's like .1 Bitcoin, .01 Bitcoin, right?
- 25:00It's something ridiculously low compared to where it was in the
- 25:03beginning. So yes, the deflationary money
- 25:07is absolutely powerful. This is why you have to adopt A
- 25:09Bitcoin standard. All that being said, let's break
- 25:13it down. What does it take to be in the
- 25:15top 1% of Bitcoin holders? I know we got a comment in the
- 25:19very beginning of the video that mentioned what was the top .1%.
- 25:23Well, that's included in this list as well.
- 25:26So let's kind of go through them and we'll we'll we'll stop at
- 25:28the top 10%. So to be in the top .001% of
- 25:32Bitcoin holders? It takes a minimum of 7021
- 25:36Bitcoin. There's an estimated of 250
- 25:40Bitcoin holders that are in that percentile.
- 25:43To be in the top .003% of Bitcoin holders, it takes about
- 25:472189 Bitcoin. There's estimated to be about
- 25:51500 Bitcoin owners that are in that percentile to be in the top
- 25:56.01% of Bitcoin holders takes about 433 Bitcoin.
- 26:01There's estimated to be about 1750 Bitcoin owners that are in
- 26:06that percentile To be in the top .03%, it takes about 215
- 26:11Bitcoin. There's about 5000 Bitcoin
- 26:14owners that are in that percentile to be in the top .1%,
- 26:17which is a question from one of you guys, takes about 89 Bitcoin
- 26:22and there's about 17,500 people in that percentile to be in the
- 26:26top 1% of Bitcoin owners, which is the title of the video.
- 26:30According to this list, and there's many others, it takes
- 26:33about 15 Bitcoin and it's there's estimated to be around
- 26:37225,000 people in that list. To be in the top 10% of Bitcoin
- 26:44holders, it takes about 1.28 Bitcoin.
- 26:47There's estimated to be about a quarter million people in that
- 26:51to be in the top 50%. Takes about .037 Bitcoin, So
- 26:57very, very interesting. I would say we're still super,
- 27:00super early. Now this is a breakdown from
- 27:03Luke Broyles and he had another take on this.
- 27:05And it's important because you can't just, you know, make your
- 27:09judgment based on one list. You have to make it on multiple
- 27:12list. You have to make it because
- 27:13everyone's facing this at it from a different angles.
- 27:17I love the way that Luke Burrows explains it.
- 27:19He explains it in the sense of human beings have a hard time
- 27:22understanding exponentials. And that's incredibly true right
- 27:28after. After all, it is 21,000,000
- 27:30divided by Infinity after all, I don't think the human race has
- 27:34ever really felt. What absolute scarcity is, but
- 27:38so far that has proven to be, you know, the fastest
- 27:42appreciating asset the world has ever seen.
- 27:45So I, I, I, I just, you know, I don't think, I don't think
- 27:49people truly can wrap their head around it.
- 27:53And it's not only 21 million that there's estimated that
- 27:55between 2:00 to 3:00 millionaire lost.
- 27:56I know that's debatable. I know some people disagree with
- 27:58that, but that's just what people say.
- 28:01But this is another breakdown, right?
- 28:03So. And he breaks it down not by
- 28:04percentiles, but by he he calls it entities, right?
- 28:09So the first entity is nation slash the mega rich.
- 28:13According to him, there's a 10%, there's ten of them and what's
- 28:18required is 140,000 Bitcoin. Then after that is multibillion
- 28:22slash small nation, he estimates.
- 28:26According to this, there's about 8000 people that fit into that.
- 28:30Sorry, you require 8000 Bitcoin to fit into that and there's
- 28:35about 200 people that fit into that category.
- 28:38Then below that, there's billionaire slash Mega
- 28:41Corporation. According to him, there's about
- 28:435000 people or entities that fit into that.
- 28:46It takes about 120 Bitcoin to fit into that category.
- 28:51Then there's the multimillionaire slash Large
- 28:53Corporation. According to him, there's about
- 28:5570,000 people that fit into that category.
- 28:59And the minimum amount of Bitcoin is about 10 Bitcoin.
- 29:02Then there's the millionaire slash companies.
- 29:04There's about 80 million people that fit into that category
- 29:07about you. You need .06 Bitcoin to fit in
- 29:11there. Then upper middle class, you
- 29:13know there is almost a billion people in that category.
- 29:18And this is super, super overly bullish.
- 29:21You know this report by Luke Broyles.
- 29:23Apparently you only need .008 Bitcoin to be in the upper
- 29:27middle class. This this is how bullish he
- 29:30feels about where Bitcoin is going anyways.
- 29:34And I know Opti's here, so it wouldn't be complete without a
- 29:38meme. Because at the end of the day we
- 29:40have to we have to give Opti a shout out.
- 29:44So this is the Pepe the Pepe Citadel.
- 29:48Stack Castle. And over here it says the year,
- 29:53the year of 2028 of the Second Age 1 Bitcoin is now worth of $1
- 29:57million adjusted for inflation and the Pepe meme Castle at the
- 30:02top, you know there's those two twins that it made memes.
- 30:05There's the 10,000 Bitcoin stack, then there's the whale
- 30:09stack at 1000 Bitcoin. Then there's the King stack at
- 30:13100 Bitcoin. Then there's the Duke stack at
- 30:1550 Bitcoin. Then there's the generational
- 30:18wealth at 10 Bitcoin. Then there's the make it stack
- 30:21the break it stack around 5 Bitcoin.
- 30:23Then the suicide stack at one Bitcoin.
- 30:26I I think that this meme is old because the reality is that at
- 30:29$26,000 one Bitcoin is a lot of money for a lot of people you
- 30:35know. And then there's the hope, the
- 30:36the cope, the rope, and then the worst.
- 30:39I think it we you could put the no coiner in there.
- 30:42That still hasn't woken up to Bitcoin being the best money in
- 30:45the world. And to end to, I think I'm going
- 30:49to head to a calculator at the end to break down some different
- 30:53type of math. But this was the prediction by
- 30:56ARC Investments, what they believe could be, you know, the
- 31:00total price of Bitcoin. They have a bear case, a base
- 31:04case and a bull case. They're bear case.
- 31:06They make the case for a $258,000 Bitcoin, a base case.
- 31:11They make the case for a $682,000 Bitcoin.
- 31:15And for a bull case, they make the case for a $1.48 million
- 31:18Bitcoin. These are all 2030 price
- 31:21targets. I tend to be on the conservative
- 31:24side to be honest, but maybe that's because I got a little
- 31:26bit burnt because of the last bull market.
- 31:30But anyways, if you divided 21 million equally behind every
- 31:34human being on planet earth, it give you a little bit different
- 31:38of math, right? So let's do the math.
- 31:40So. 21,000,000 divided by roughly 8 billion people and
- 31:47that gives you .002625 and you multiply that by 100 and you get
- 31:53.26 point 2625. So to be in the top 1% of the
- 31:59human race of Bitcoin owners you need about .2625 Bitcoin.
- 32:06So. All of that being said, I just
- 32:09want to echo what Anil said in the very, very beginning migrate
- 32:13to A to a Bitcoin standard. I think that's priority number
- 32:16one. I think your your life will
- 32:18improve by default, especially the more patient you are,
- 32:22especially the long, the longer you huddle.
- 32:25I think you will start to feel a net benefit of living on a
- 32:30deflationary currency standard. I think that I I think that's
- 32:34true without a doubt. I could definitely speak from my
- 32:37own experience. I can speak from Opti's
- 32:38experience what it's done for simply Bitcoin, what it's done
- 32:42for my family, what it's done for my fiance.
- 32:45Adopting adopting Bitcoin just by itself is is key.
- 32:50So I just want to say that anyways, really interesting what
- 32:53you kind of break it down like that because I think a lot of
- 32:55people have misconceptions, they don't really have an answer to
- 32:57that question, right. So the general consensus is
- 33:00between 15. 2.26 Bitcoin. But if your court if, if it's
- 33:06according to Luke Broyles, you know it's like .06 to be in the
- 33:10upper middle class of of of society and whatnot.
- 33:13So, O'Neal, what did you think about all those numbers, all
- 33:16those breakdowns? Did did any of them, and
- 33:19specifically any of those lists, resonate with you at all?
- 33:23Yeah, I well, I think a really underappreciated fact is OK,
- 33:28take the people who are publicly.
- 33:31Admitted to owning a large amount of Bitcoin.
- 33:35So Saylor, Don Ricardo, Ross Stevens, Bill Miller, Paul
- 33:39Tudor, Jones, What do they all have in common?
- 33:42They're all in their 60s and 70s and so I don't wish anyone any
- 33:50harm, but we can assume that in 30 years from now, all that
- 33:55Bitcoin is getting redistributed.
- 33:57Whether that's through a trust they've set up, whether it's
- 34:00getting passed on to their children, that Bitcoin will be
- 34:04in someone else's hands potentially.
- 34:07So it's easy to get to compare yourself to someone like Russ
- 34:15Stevens holding, you know, 20-30, forty thousand Bitcoin
- 34:18today. But if you're young, you've got
- 34:20time on your side and I think people discount that fact.
- 34:26That the earlier in your life you can adopt A Bitcoin
- 34:30standard, the more likely you're going to live a life where your
- 34:35quality of life continues to increase.
- 34:37And at the end of the day, I think that's all you really
- 34:39want, right? You don't want to get to 70,
- 34:42have all this Fiat wealth converted all into Bitcoin and
- 34:47then die. So factor in your age into the
- 34:51equation. I think that's something that's
- 34:54kind of missing from from these calculations, but overall
- 34:58really, really good insight, really good color to to where
- 35:01all that bitcoins being held right now.
- 35:03Yeah. And that that's really, that's
- 35:05really true, right. You're factoring, factoring your
- 35:07age. And then also not to mention of
- 35:09course this is very unfortunate. I just want to, I want to, I
- 35:12want to give a disclaimer before that.
- 35:14But you know, the reality is that there's definitely a
- 35:17percentage of people that are going to pass away.
- 35:20And they didn't set up the infrastructure to to hand over
- 35:25those keys. So therefore, though that
- 35:27Bitcoin is is gone forever And to use one of Satoshi's own
- 35:31quotes, right, you know, if you lose Bitcoin, it's a small
- 35:34donation, maybe a big donation depending on how much Bitcoin it
- 35:37is to everybody else. So yeah, I completely agree with
- 35:40you and Neal and that's a really good insight.
- 35:43And you know, someone just commented like is sailor like,
- 35:45yeah like sailor. Sailor is like either in his his
- 35:48mid mid to late 50s if not early 60s.
- 35:53Anyways, Opti, what's your take on all this, brother?
- 35:56Yeah, well, I am going to kind of start and echo what Anil said
- 36:00because it's something I've realized as well.
- 36:03You know, we, we are Bitcoin entrepreneurs and you hear a lot
- 36:06of people saying like, oh, I wish I and this is kind of not
- 36:09even coming from bitcoins, but like in in in normal land
- 36:12they're like, oh, you know, I wish I could just like quit my
- 36:15job, but I'm living paycheck to paycheck.
- 36:17And first and foremost, like you need some capital to live the
- 36:20life you want to live. So like you're going to have to
- 36:22save something and that's the perks of freedom money that is
- 36:26Bitcoin is you are able to save and and you don't get caught up
- 36:29in the hamster wheel. So I really like Anil's point of
- 36:32view where it's like do not beat yourself up if you don't get
- 36:34some of these stack goals. Obviously the first stack goal
- 36:37is usually, you know, 50 million Sats.
- 36:41You know, like work your way up 10 million Sats, 25,000,000
- 36:43Sats, 50 million Sats, a whole coin.
- 36:46And if you are making money, you have a good cash flow, Then
- 36:50obviously you want to hold as many coins as possible.
- 36:53This is a, you know, this is a margin call.
- 36:56Wait, is it margin call or Wall Street?
- 36:58The movie like Greed is good guys.
- 36:59You know you want to save money and this is a game that
- 37:03incentivize you to save. And I say it all the time like
- 37:05we are playing Hungry Hippo here.
- 37:07You want to stack as many sets as possible and do it ethically
- 37:10and do it in a principled way, but you want to try to usher in
- 37:13as many sets as possible. And I think the point that Anil
- 37:18said is what I was going to echo as well is like, the time metric
- 37:22is the biggest thing. And there's people in the chat
- 37:24asking, like, you know, how long should I be hoddling this
- 37:27Bitcoin? Basically everyone asks the same
- 37:29question, like, how long do I need to hold Bitcoin before I'm
- 37:32rich? And I think it's something I've
- 37:34been saying for a while, is like, I'm relatively young, I'm
- 37:37in my 30s, and I feel like I'm going to be saving in Bitcoin
- 37:41for the rest of my life. Like I I can't see a future
- 37:46where I don't save in Bitcoin there it's just like this is my
- 37:50new store value. Like, yes, maybe when I'm like,
- 37:54you know, older I'll, I'll you know, die, divest into other
- 37:59things like a house or something like that, something that has
- 38:02some utilities, some some other kind of assets.
- 38:04But for the most part, I feel like I will always be saving in
- 38:07Bitcoin because I have, you know, God willing, another 60
- 38:10years of this life and and I want to live a good life.
- 38:13I want to pass stuff down to my family, and so I just don't
- 38:17think that this game ever ends as a Bitcoin or as we say all
- 38:20the time. Like, what are you gonna do?
- 38:21Go back to the Fiat world? Like it?
- 38:23Just that makes absolutely no sense.
- 38:25You only need as much Fiat as you need to transact in for like
- 38:28your bills and your rent and all that stuff and everything else
- 38:30where you're gonna put it as someone like me that literally
- 38:33had no savings before Bitcoin. I finally learned how to save
- 38:38because of Bitcoin. And now I'm like, yeah, I'm
- 38:40going to save in Bitcoin forever and hopefully, you know, get I I
- 38:45always say like I'm just trying to get to a billion sets.
- 38:47I want to be a billionaire. You know that billion sets to me
- 38:50is like it obviously like a Neil saying it won't, it won't
- 38:53probably make me happy there. Like, I have to work on myself
- 38:56before that point, but I really, really believe in the meme of,
- 39:01like, if you own one Bitcoin, then you can kind of equate that
- 39:05too. And I, and I think even the math
- 39:07is lower than that. But it it's just like a good
- 39:09meme that sticks in people's heads.
- 39:11It's like if you own one Bitcoin, you can pretty safely
- 39:14say that that's like owning a block on Manhattan.
- 39:17And like that's the type of level of thinking that I think
- 39:20more people should try to understand.
- 39:23And shouts out the surfer Jim, because he did a whole breakdown
- 39:25of this. It's like Bitcoin is equal to
- 39:27real estate or something like that.
- 39:28It was Citadel 21 or Bitcoin divided by the amount of land in
- 39:34the world or something. And anyways the the whole point
- 39:37of this is saying, like, yes, stacking goals are good.
- 39:40You know as humans we like whole numbers.
- 39:42We like to hit goals. You know, we like that dopamine
- 39:45rush. But I I'm very, very much
- 39:48convinced that any Bitcoin that you hold today and you can hold
- 39:51this for a long time time, whether it's one cycle, whether
- 39:55it's 12 cycles, it's going to be worth a lot more than it is
- 39:59today. And so you know to you guys out
- 40:01there, don't get discouraged. You want to stack you know,
- 40:04shouts out to my boy Mclovin. Cuz he he he keeps sticking in
- 40:08my head because we we taught him to drop his shit coins and he's
- 40:11on that journey like we were all on the journey and I started
- 40:15this. Show with the the classic meme
- 40:18of American auto, you know 6.15 for eternal riches and you guys
- 40:22know the rest. And it's really about just
- 40:26pushing yourself to try to stack and save as much as possible
- 40:29Site you can live the life you want.
- 40:31It is called freedom money for a reason.
- 40:33And personally, in my life, Bitcoin has changed everything
- 40:36about my life because I just followed the blueprint.
- 40:39Stack Sats, stay humble, stay solvent, do not get over your
- 40:43skis. Take your Bitcoin into self
- 40:44custody. And the longer you do this and
- 40:47the more committed and disciplined you are In this
- 40:50process, you will finally have a treasure chest, a nest egg that
- 40:54you can start to unleash your human capital.
- 40:57I don't know what your dreams are in life.
- 40:59I don't know what you're good at.
- 41:00I don't know what you want to do with your life, but you are
- 41:04going to need to have some savings.
- 41:06And again, I've been watching a lot of Alex Hermosi stuff.
- 41:09I really enjoy his content and one of the things he was saying
- 41:13is like as someone that is an entrepreneur, you are going to
- 41:17need to have it like a two year runway.
- 41:20So before you quit your job guys make sure you have some savings.
- 41:24And if that means owning one coin, 2 coins, 10 coins, I think
- 41:28it's kind of irrelevant And it's kind of what Anil was saying.
- 41:32It's like just getting on a Bitcoin standard will improve
- 41:35your life and this is what more people need to know.
- 41:39And what's the number Nico 15 coins for the top 1% or
- 41:42something like that? Well.
- 41:43Okay. So for the world, it's point
- 41:452.26. For according to that list it's
- 41:4915 Bitcoin and according to Luke Broyles it's like .06.
- 41:56Wait and how are these owners measured?
- 41:59Is this like on chain metrics? I think it's just, it's just, I
- 42:03don't know dude, they all are using clearly.
- 42:05Clearly they're all using different.
- 42:07I use basic math for mine but like just 21,000,000 / 8 billion
- 42:12people and that's how I got to and then you know times 100, the
- 42:16top .1%, the 1% and then that's how I got to my number.
- 42:21But you know, but but yeah, so well.
- 42:27Yeah, and jets. I also think we got to just
- 42:29appreciate how insanely lucky we all are to firstly be alive.
- 42:35Think of everyone that's lived, every human that's lived pre
- 42:39Bitcoin to be alive during Bitcoin to speak English because
- 42:44white paper was released in English, a lot of the early
- 42:46content is in English to have access to the Internet, to
- 42:50continue to self educate, connect with likeminded
- 42:52individuals and then have access to on ramps.
- 42:55And the hardware to self custody like to tick all those boxes is
- 43:01insane. So anyone watching this, the
- 43:04fact that you're even here is just you should not feel that
- 43:09you're at any disadvantage in any way.
- 43:13You have the time like up to you might have 5 decades ahead of
- 43:16you on a Bitcoin standard. Think of what that's going to be
- 43:19like. Think of how many people in the
- 43:22future who haven't been born yet.
- 43:24Would kill to be in your position right now in like prime
- 43:28earning years focused head on straight.
- 43:31You know it's just use it. Grab that opportunity, yeah yeah
- 43:38Neon. And we'll get a little more in
- 43:40this in the culture as well cuz I wanna pick your brain on this.
- 43:43But I think a lot of us you know and I and I say this all the
- 43:46time like even bitcoiners aren't bullish enough in regards to the
- 43:51life changing opportunity that Bitcoin is.
- 43:54And and we really can't wrap our heads around what truly digital
- 44:00scarcity means in a world that is just a Fiat world with an
- 44:03unlimited money printer like it. It really I I don't think we
- 44:08understand how big numbers work and yes, we're so early and we
- 44:12like we can get as bullish as possible.
- 44:14But I I think we are still under estimating how powerful the
- 44:18stacks we have today will be going in the future.
- 44:22And the longer you can hold it, the more purchasing power you
- 44:25will retain. And and like you said Anil, you
- 44:27know living on a Bitcoin standard for five decades, like
- 44:29Oh my goodness, I'm feeling great right now.
- 44:32Nico, let's go. All right guys, before we get
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- 46:08Let's go. All right and Neil.
- 46:09So everyone in the chat really enjoys the how did you get into
- 46:14Bitcoin stories? So if you could TLDR us on how
- 46:19you ended up here because I think people can relate to these
- 46:21stories. Everyone thinks, you know, like,
- 46:23oh, I'm I'm not smart enough to be in Bitcoin.
- 46:26You know, like I didn't come from this background and it's
- 46:29like, guys, we've all come from different directions and we
- 46:32found Bitcoin and and now we're all just so bullish on Bitcoin.
- 46:35So Anil, maybe TLDR us, what is your Bitcoin journey and how did
- 46:40you get here? Yeah, Okay used to work in the
- 46:44music industry and specifically, I spent a lot of time working
- 46:50around the economics of ticketing.
- 46:53So you go to an event, tickets have prices.
- 46:56I used to be one of the guys that gave input and advice on
- 47:00how that happened. So I'm doing this at a time when
- 47:04tickets go digital. So they go from lining up at
- 47:07your physical box office, you get a paper ticket.
- 47:10So now you're buying them online?
- 47:11You're getting a bar code that you print yourself or it's on
- 47:13your phone. If you think of your local arena
- 47:17or stadium, it has a fixed number of seats.
- 47:21Now, this is all happening at a time when StubHub was just about
- 47:25starting tickets, scalping or resellers, like it was still
- 47:30usually a British guy standing outside the event, you know,
- 47:33yelling at you. So for me, I got exposed to what
- 47:38I think was really the first example of.
- 47:41Digital scarcity or digitally scarce?
- 47:43Good, because there is a fixed number of seats in a venue and
- 47:48these tickets were being traded peer-to-peer on marketplaces
- 47:52outside the issuer. So when Bitcoin was presented to
- 47:57me through no skill of my own pure luck, I had something to
- 48:03compare it to. I could understand the
- 48:06importance of something that was digital and scarce, the
- 48:09difference being. A concert ticket is perishable,
- 48:13like an option. You know, the event date
- 48:14happens, the price drops to 0. Bitcoin obviously does not have
- 48:19that. It's it's not perishable.
- 48:22So I was just really lucky to have that previous experience
- 48:27and then I landed in a city that just happened to be very early
- 48:31to Bitcoin in terms of having meetups and the first ATM
- 48:35happened to be down my street. Again, this is all luck, you
- 48:39know. I don't put any of that in term,
- 48:43like it's not my own brilliance. So I would be an idiot if I
- 48:48could not connect those dots. So that's what led me down the
- 48:52Bitcoin rabbit hole. But at first I made the same
- 48:55mistake a lot of people did. I thought it was a payments
- 48:57network. I thought, that's cool, I can
- 48:58transact cash, cross borders frictionlessly.
- 49:02Took me a while to understand and appreciate sound money.
- 49:05See This is why we always ask this question to start it
- 49:08because I I think more people will be like oh wait, this
- 49:12sounds exactly like my life journey and this whole Bitcoin
- 49:16thing isn't out of reach for me. And so anyways that's just a
- 49:20little tangent. Anil, you are a Bitcoin
- 49:23educator. I do have some tweets over here
- 49:25from you you work. I'm, I'm going to guess
- 49:28tirelessly on these Bitcoin visualization.
- 49:32So my question would be to you like what do you think is the
- 49:35best way to explain Bitcoin to someone?
- 49:37And maybe what is your elevator pitch for someone?
- 49:40Okay, so up to you. Earlier on you brought up Wolf
- 49:43of Wall Street margin call. You know those movies.
- 49:47So there's that line in The Big Short where Vinny's talking to.
- 49:53What's that guy's name, The broker?
- 49:55Anyway, the line is I'll, I'll buy it.
- 49:57But just tell me how I'm getting effed and I feel like rather
- 50:01than trying to convince someone to buy Bitcoin.
- 50:04Try to help someone understand how they're being effed by the
- 50:07current system, and for me, that's all you have to do.
- 50:10If someone's curious and open minded, they will eventually
- 50:14find Bitcoin. But you know, help them
- 50:17understand how the Fiat system is working to their
- 50:20disadvantage. If they're not part of that in
- 50:22the circle, Wow, I love it. Absolutely love it.
- 50:26I think that's a great, great way.
- 50:28I mean, and we try to do that and we say it all the time, you
- 50:30know, like we explain the mechanisms of what's going on in
- 50:36the world. And yet people still just, I
- 50:40don't know, they fight you so hard on it.
- 50:42Anyways, going back to your Twitter, because these are
- 50:45points that I like to beat in people's heads and there's this
- 50:48clip here and I'm just gonna do your tweet on top of it.
- 50:51So maybe you can elaborate on it, but we talk about it all the
- 50:54time. The Fiat system normalizes debt,
- 50:57it normalizes you getting over your skis, you know, getting
- 51:01over leverage. But Bitcoin normalizes savings
- 51:04and I even talked about it earlier.
- 51:06So maybe can you elaborate on to the listener out there?
- 51:09Just like how revolutionary Bitcoin is in just terms of
- 51:14savings, even though it seems so mundane, it it seems like some
- 51:18nonchalant issue, but like savings is important.
- 51:21Yeah, yeah. So I live in one of the highest
- 51:26cost of living cities in the world and for a period of time I
- 51:30worked managing the admissions for a Business School and the
- 51:36price tag of Business School, education and the average price
- 51:41of a home. You know you got a couple of
- 51:44these things together in this city are all astronomical when
- 51:47you compare them to the average salary, but.
- 51:51You look at how much people are able to borrow, then it'll make
- 51:56sense, take away all that ability to borrow.
- 52:01No one is going to Business School.
- 52:03No one is buying a house in the city.
- 52:06So then what does the city look like without all that fee up
- 52:11debt? And I think that's what you have
- 52:13to kind of wrap your head around if you've never lived outside a
- 52:18western developed city. So yeah, savings is a
- 52:24prerequisite to investment. Love it.
- 52:26OK. And I kind of touched on this
- 52:28earlier, but we have one of your visuals here, Neil.
- 52:31And it's the idea that scarcity and money brings abundance and
- 52:35everything else. And there is a visual here, but
- 52:38maybe you can explain it for the audio listeners.
- 52:40What's your thinking here? And this is something I I try to
- 52:43explain to people. And so hopefully having other
- 52:46people explain it to our audience, it'll beat the nail in
- 52:50their head so they understand why scarce money is so
- 52:53important. So if you don't have scarcity
- 52:58and money, people can't reliably store value.
- 53:02They exchange their labor. They need to put what they
- 53:05received somewhere that will preserve value.
- 53:07If money is abundant or being printed arbitrarily, money is
- 53:11not a good place to do that. So you look for the next best
- 53:15option you have access to. Where I live, that is housing.
- 53:19So everyone is storing the wealth that they have in
- 53:22housing. It is being financialized.
- 53:25It has a monetary premium. It's being used as money.
- 53:31Flip side of that, when money is scarce, when someone can't
- 53:34arbitrarily create more of it, when it requires work to to
- 53:40produce, well, all of a sudden now I can store my.
- 53:44My earnings in IT, it will retain purchasing power for me.
- 53:48Therefore, if someone wants my money, they have to create
- 53:51something of value for me. And usually that's in the form
- 53:55of other things that currently are attracting A monetary
- 53:58premium. So yeah, look at how the supply
- 54:03of money expands and contracts and look at the monetary
- 54:07premiums that nest into assets that get financialized.
- 54:11Same things, kind of like an accordion.
- 54:13Love it. Okay.
- 54:14And before I get into all the projects you're working on, I
- 54:17wanna touch on one last thing. Because again, we do our best to
- 54:22explain Bitcoin to the non bitcoiner and then we also try
- 54:27to steal views from the shit coin channels.
- 54:29And there is still so much contention out there on the idea
- 54:33that Bitcoin is more than just digital payments.
- 54:36And I really like how you put it in this tweet.
- 54:38Here you said what all coiners fail to appreciate is that
- 54:41payments must logically follow robust money.
- 54:44So what is robust money and why is Bitcoin more than just
- 54:47digital payments? And Neil?
- 54:51It's the old horse before the car analogy if you do not have
- 54:56sound money first and foremost. Why do you need fast transaction
- 55:01speeds? Why do you need to be able to
- 55:04move it at the speed of light? You know, you first have to have
- 55:08sound money. Yeah, this is a quote from the
- 55:12block Size War. Go out and read it.
- 55:14Otherwise, Parker Lewis has a great essay about this where
- 55:17he's comparing, you know, Bitcoin to the Visa and PayPal,
- 55:21and he explains how that argument just completely misses
- 55:24the point. It's a red herring.
- 55:27You know, so if you're out there looking at evaluating a token on
- 55:34the basis of speed, you've you, you've missed it.
- 55:39You've completely missed the point of all of this.
- 55:41And that's first creating sound money that is censorship
- 55:45resistant as a result of being decentralized.
- 55:48Because without that, no one's going to want to use it to pay
- 55:52for anything. Yeah, 100%.
- 55:55And you kind of reminded me of my my shit coin journey.
- 55:59You know, I I found Bitcoin 2017 where everything was pumping.
- 56:02It took me like 2 weeks to get sidetracked by all the shit
- 56:05coins and got wrecked basically a month later.
- 56:08And the fundamental question that saved me from all this was
- 56:12just asking myself, wait, what is Bitcoin?
- 56:14I think I need to study Bitcoin so I can better compare all
- 56:17these other shit coins and it inevitably leads you back to
- 56:20this whole idea of hard money. You know it's a store of value
- 56:24over just digital payments. Anyways, let's get into some of
- 56:28the stuff you're working on Anil.
- 56:30So you just launched a book. Well, you know, this year.
- 56:34What is the Bitcoin handbook and where can people find it?
- 56:38Yeah, so the Bitcoin Handbook is a collection of first
- 56:41principles. So there's a lot of great
- 56:43Bitcoin books out there. Go read them.
- 56:45This is not meant to compete with those.
- 56:47This is kind of like a reference style guide that you can use
- 56:50while you're learning about Bitcoin.
- 56:52Think of it like a thesaurus, you know?
- 56:54So it covers things like Gresham's Law, the canteen
- 56:59effect, scarcity, opportunity cost.
- 57:03You know, it's kind of like the textbook I wish existed when I
- 57:06was first learning about Bitcoin, to kind of take all
- 57:09these concepts and mental models and frameworks and just put them
- 57:12in one easy to digest. Place.
- 57:16So you know, it's not meant to end with convincing you to buy
- 57:21Bitcoin. It's just to give you the first
- 57:23principles that you can keep coming back to.
- 57:26To understand why Bitcoin's important.
- 57:28And I would always encourage people stop focusing on breaking
- 57:32news or the latest trend. Just keep understanding first
- 57:36principles. Just keep repeating that process
- 57:39because, yeah, that's. The timeless stuff is what you
- 57:42want to focus on and that's what I tried to put in this book.
- 57:45I couldn't agree more. We say this all the time.
- 57:47It's like once you have the Bitcoin fundamentals, everything
- 57:50else just kind of finds a way of you know, leveling out and and
- 57:55you view the world correctly as far as I'm concerned.
- 57:58And the last thing I have over here and Neil for you is your
- 58:01gum Rd. What What do you have over here
- 58:02on your gum Road and is it all free or is it all donation based
- 58:08it it? It's all free.
- 58:09You know what? I create a lot of visuals
- 58:14because early on I was giving a lot of presentations about
- 58:17Bitcoin and I was doing a terrible job.
- 58:19Stuff would not land. Ideas, yeah, just would not
- 58:22connect with people. So I realized that to go back,
- 58:25do some actual work, get feedback from, you know, Bitcoin
- 58:30is on Twitter, I would iterate and I would try to create slides
- 58:33that other people could use when they're presenting to friends,
- 58:37family, conferences, giving a keynote.
- 58:41So they're all arranged by topics, You know, They try to
- 58:45cover a different key point. It's all free.
- 58:49Put zero in the price field. Download it, share it, steal it.
- 58:56Yeah, this is kind of what I hope will be my contribution to
- 59:00the Bitcoin cannon. Absolutely love it, dude.
- 59:04Well, first and foremost, shout to you.
- 59:06Kudos to you. We understand how hard it is to
- 59:09be a Bitcoin educator, how tirelessly we work to try to
- 59:13spread the signal, and just how we have to constantly iterate on
- 59:18our message. Because you realize that you can
- 59:21give the person all the logics and all the facts and yet they
- 59:26won't fight you tooth and nail. So you have to find creative
- 59:29ways to, as we say, when the hearts and minds of the masses
- 59:32out there. So you know, keep doubling down,
- 59:35really appreciate your work and Neil and is there anything else
- 59:37on in the down the road map for you?
- 59:40Yes. So I'm launching a course only
- 59:44because people have asked me to, you know, same thing with
- 59:48writing a book. The only reason I did it was
- 59:51because people kept asking. For it to be put in that format.
- 59:56So the same thing with the course.
- 59:57There are a lot of great free courses out there go for it.
- 1:00:01This one is not going to be, I think it's reasonably priced,
- 1:00:05but it'll be just for people who want to really condensed high
- 1:00:10level coverage of networks and money and how Bitcoin fits into
- 1:00:14that. Other than that, thank you
- 1:00:17gentlemen for creating a forum like this for other Bitcoin has
- 1:00:20to come on. And, you know, discuss ideas.
- 1:00:23I think that's really important too.
- 1:00:25I see the chat. Is the course going to cost 850
- 1:00:28bucks? No.
- 1:00:30Yeah, I know that reference. But no.
- 1:00:32You know what? It's right now.
- 1:00:34I'm hoping to keep it for about 6979 bucks only because.
- 1:00:39Did you just say 69? I did.
- 1:00:43I did, yeah. So you know, it's the same thing
- 1:00:48with, I think people think you got a book out, you must be
- 1:00:50rolling it. It's like, no, actually, when I
- 1:00:52think about the amount of time I put into it, if, you know, I'm
- 1:00:57at a massive loss. But I did it because I needed it
- 1:01:00to exist. I wanted it to be there for my
- 1:01:02kids. And I think that's what people
- 1:01:06have to look at Bitcoin educators with that lens, so.
- 1:01:12Love it. OK.
- 1:01:13And actually we got one more question in here.
- 1:01:15And this could be a whole segment in and of itself.
- 1:01:17So just TLDR this, if you can. Someone asks what are some of
- 1:01:21these Bitcoin fundamentals? And we talked about them
- 1:01:24constantly in mimetic form. I'll do a whole culture on this.
- 1:01:28It'll take us. You know, we could be here for
- 1:01:29an hour for this, but maybe just in a few sentences.
- 1:01:33What are some important Bitcoin fundamentals in you?
- 1:01:35Yeah, creative destruction is a good one.
- 1:01:38You know, I understand how technology is going to change
- 1:01:42existing structures. And again, none of these are
- 1:01:45like my ideas, right? I'm just a curator.
- 1:01:48I just take ideas of other people, give them credit for it,
- 1:01:51and then try to create a lattice work of them.
- 1:01:54So, you know, Jeff Booth writes a huge amount about creative
- 1:01:57destruction, safety, and writes a lot about opportunity, cost,
- 1:02:02time, preference. You know, sailors always going
- 1:02:06on about dominant digital networks.
- 1:02:08Like each person contributes by connecting the dots between
- 1:02:14Bitcoin and the thing they know really well.
- 1:02:17So yeah, the book is really just trying to collate all of those
- 1:02:22ideas. You know, Pierre, Rashad and
- 1:02:25Bitstein, big on savings. Why is that important?
- 1:02:29These are the questions you got to ask yourself.
- 1:02:33Well, I love it 100%. Well, dude, it's been an honor
- 1:02:37to have you on the show and keep doing what you're doing, bro.
- 1:02:40Keep fighting the good fight. I know we're fighting in
- 1:02:42different trenches, but we're all heading in the right
- 1:02:44direction. We all want the same thing.
- 1:02:46All right, everybody, let's get to the memes.
- 1:02:48Let's do it. The Daily Meme Review.
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- 1:03:19Have you? Heard of the new Rex?
- 1:03:22All right guys, you already know the deal.
- 1:03:23This is the meme review where you guys tag me in memes on
- 1:03:26Twitter, either at Simply Bitcoin TV or my personal
- 1:03:30account at Optimist Fields and I will bring them on the show or
- 1:03:33drop them in our Telegram group. T dot me slash simply Bitcoin
- 1:03:39tweet to the bullets memes of the artillery.
- 1:03:41As you can tell, we are in information war, and it's upon
- 1:03:45us to spread the signal. To incept the ideas of freedom
- 1:03:49money into your friends and family's minds and then of
- 1:03:52course ridicule the corporate press on their BS.
- 1:03:56Anyways, this 1st meme is by the BTC therapist and it goes just
- 1:04:00oh wait, hold on, this is therapist.
- 1:04:03I love this one, hold on back back story.
- 1:04:06I read this meme before I read your tweet, so I'm going to do
- 1:04:09it the same way. And we got Kevin Hart here and
- 1:04:11he's gambling and he's going and what my financial advisor.
- 1:04:17Sees after I tell him I'm 100% in on Bitcoin and it's Kevin
- 1:04:22Hart going all in and I in my head, literally I was like, you
- 1:04:26got a financial advisor and Bick went there because just.
- 1:04:29I don't have a. Financial Advisor This is the
- 1:04:32way you are your own financial advisor.
- 1:04:34But hey, you know, I know some people want them out there and
- 1:04:37he should be telling you to stack sets.
- 1:04:39Anyways, this next meme is by Ronan under score 21 million and
- 1:04:42he goes. Or 21 M and he goes good morning
- 1:04:45clubs. A kind reminder to the
- 1:04:47sectarians, and this is from What's that movie thing?
- 1:04:51I'm blanking on what the movie is Life of Brian.
- 1:04:54Yeah, Life of Brian. Exactly.
- 1:04:55And we got a screenshot here, and it's Brian.
- 1:04:59And it goes, it puts the Toshi on the top and he goes, will you
- 1:05:02please listen, I am not the Messiah.
- 1:05:04And then all the bitcoiners out there with laser eyes telling us
- 1:05:08and everyone out there, that's a Toshi.
- 1:05:09He is the Messiah. He's come to save us.
- 1:05:13I like. This one because, you know,
- 1:05:14either on the one hand we're a cult member or we are religion.
- 1:05:17Either way, we need the religious tax cuts.
- 1:05:20Here we go. The next one by the big one
- 1:05:23company, AKA at the BTC Co on Twitter.
- 1:05:26And it goes, understanding Bitcoin can be a lonely place
- 1:05:29sometimes. And you're not alone though
- 1:05:31we're all right here with you. And it's just a picture of a
- 1:05:35person in an orange hoodie in front of a dark group.
- 1:05:40Of masses out there. I only wanted to bring this one
- 1:05:43up because I remember when I was the sole delusional bitcoiner in
- 1:05:48my community, in my neighborhood with of my friends and IT it was
- 1:05:52a little soul crushing to try to have these conversations with
- 1:05:55people. But This is why we all
- 1:05:57congregate on Twitter. This is why you guys come to
- 1:05:59simply Bitcoin. This is why you go to Bitcoin
- 1:06:01meetups. This is why I'm sure only.
- 1:06:06Your best friends are bitcoiners because it's about being with
- 1:06:10like minded individuals that understand how the world works
- 1:06:12so that we can all prosper together.
- 1:06:15This is a game of prosperity. Stack more sets, stay humble,
- 1:06:19build Bitcoin businesses, this is the way anyways.
- 1:06:21This next one is a video. I'm not going to play the audio
- 1:06:24though and it's by a cipher hoodlum and it goes multi, Sig
- 1:06:28explained. And we have three people on a
- 1:06:32skateboard, shoulder to shoulder, and they're doing a
- 1:06:34kick flip together. This is the way this is
- 1:06:37multisig. See this is 1 visuals.
- 1:06:39Kind of. I know.
- 1:06:40I know. Not really.
- 1:06:41Not really, but it's it's a funny, it's a.
- 1:06:43Funny, it would be like as if the one dude kicked it and then
- 1:06:48the skateboard froze and then the other guy completed the
- 1:06:51process and then the other guy landed it be something like
- 1:06:54that. OK, all right.
- 1:06:55Miko, getting technical on us? Uh, hit Nico up to explain
- 1:06:59multisig. OK, this next one is by the
- 1:07:02Bitcoin conference. And it goes.
- 1:07:04This is why we Bitcoin. And this isn't the first time
- 1:07:06I've seen it, but sometimes we got to read.
- 1:07:08It if it's and if it's a 2. Of three, one guy could be off
- 1:07:11the skateboard. Maybe we got to do a whole multi
- 1:07:15thing that's a three of three multi cig and all signing it at
- 1:07:19the same time, basically. Wow, you're such a nerd.
- 1:07:22All right. Freaking actually my meme.
- 1:07:25OK, anyways, we got fiction. Of a man fishing and it goes man
- 1:07:33versus the state and you can see the man fishing and he's putting
- 1:07:36his fish in his basket and you can see the state or the
- 1:07:40bureaucrat in his top hat and he's fishing from your basket.
- 1:07:43Literally can't explain it better.
- 1:07:44Guys, as we like to say, you know, defund the high level
- 1:07:48parasites. From stealing your Well, by
- 1:07:51saving in Bitcoin, this is the way we talked about the whole
- 1:07:53show and shuts out the Bitcoin conference Twitter account for
- 1:07:57reposting this meme. All right, this next one shouts
- 1:08:00out the sessions. Because I think he captured the
- 1:08:03zeitgeist of everything on Twitter very well.
- 1:08:06And we got the classic spider Man meme where everyone's
- 1:08:09pointing at each other and it goes, you're an influencer, but
- 1:08:11I really like sessions tweet here and he goes, yo dawg, I
- 1:08:14heard you like to be influenced. So I want to influence your
- 1:08:16opinion on this influencer that is having a bad influence on
- 1:08:19people I would rather influence. Super meta meme.
- 1:08:25Love it. Sasha.
- 1:08:26OK and the last one doubling down on the meme.
- 1:08:28We have seed signer here doing the classic Hotline Bling Drake
- 1:08:31meme, and he's doing no trusting influences and companies, but
- 1:08:36yes, to trusting the math and the protocol.
- 1:08:38This is what we're all doing here.
- 1:08:39Trust the Bitcoin protocol. Don't trust.
- 1:08:42Verify. Run a node.
- 1:08:44Take Bitcoin into self custody. You know, experiment with new
- 1:08:48tech. Don't.
- 1:08:51Outsource your understanding. What's your score?
- 1:08:54What's your score, bro? Hold on.
- 1:08:55Hold on, man. What?
- 1:08:56Just finished. What's your score?
- 1:08:58God, I'm trying to finish my. I want to know.
- 1:09:00Your score. Is drop your meme review score
- 1:09:02on the other side of Nico and we will cover them live.
- 1:09:05My meme review score is I don't know if I've given this one, but
- 1:09:09maybe I've given another one of these.
- 1:09:11I don't know. I have so many of them.
- 1:09:13Um, it is an Electro Voice 635, a microphone.
- 1:09:18Oh, I. Might have given it.
- 1:09:20But these are the old interviewer mics that people
- 1:09:25would walk around. Now they just have like the
- 1:09:27little Rd. clips. But this is what people used to
- 1:09:29use anyways. That is a fucking badass score,
- 1:09:33Anil. What would you give those memes?
- 1:09:35Let's see. Let's find out.
- 1:09:38Let's go. I think we've gone.
- 1:09:43I think we went for a sheep. I think I heard a Bah.
- 1:09:45Yeah, Bah. OK.
- 1:09:47All right. I like that.
- 1:09:48That's a great fuck. Pretty strong.
- 1:09:50It's pretty strong. Great score.
- 1:09:52All right, I would give the memes this sticker, and I think
- 1:09:55it's like a Pepe Michelin Man smoking a cigarette.
- 1:09:59Boom. All right, Pepe Michelin.
- 1:10:03Pepe Michelin man smoking a cigarette.
- 1:10:05But so much better before the tobacco ban.
- 1:10:07That's but he's. Not a Michelin man, it's a
- 1:10:09Michelin Pepe smoking a cigarette.
- 1:10:13Boom. All right everybody.
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- 1:10:45All you gotta do is scan the QR code Anyways, Opti, let's get
- 1:10:49through some of the scores first.
- 1:10:52Score by Be Aware and focus Yellow Plushy fishing for
- 1:10:56tadpoles with potato. OK, I like it.
- 1:11:00All right, next one by John Pleb.
- 1:11:02Score Matthew Mcconaughey's second rule from his five rules
- 1:11:06for the For the Rest of your life by There is no second best.
- 1:11:10What's the second best? There is no second best.
- 1:11:13OK, very good. Very good.
- 1:11:14Second score. Third score by opti's mustache
- 1:11:17with a big with a big Max. Get sent.
- 1:11:23Anil does a grab that opportunity, possibly also
- 1:11:27including include grabbing a six year old central banker lady as
- 1:11:30your wife. I can't tell if he's on the
- 1:11:33grab. Anil doesn't know, so I can't.
- 1:11:37Tell if he's trolling me or Anil on that one.
- 1:11:39Opti Opti likes dating. Concealing airs.
- 1:11:43So. Opti's.
- 1:11:44This is more a thing of necessity.
- 1:11:46This is this is not an opportunistic thing, not a not a
- 1:11:49like thing, OK? Opti's dated a custom Carson's
- 1:11:53Janet. Yellen And his latest ex was
- 1:11:56Christie Lagarde, which you've got to follow the incentives,
- 1:12:00right? Like, don't hate the place this
- 1:12:02guy gets right. Yes, 100 percent, 100%, But but
- 1:12:07Opti, you're doing it for the culture.
- 1:12:08All right. Next one.
- 1:12:10Matt Wallet, I don't know what you're talking.
- 1:12:12About my meme review score is 69.
- 1:12:14All right, I like it. All right.
- 1:12:16Next one. We got Kim Gage multi sync for
- 1:12:19plebs equals two in the pink one.
- 1:12:23What happened to the filter? I didn't read it, sorry.
- 1:12:29I just saw multi sync, but let's do this odd score anyways
- 1:12:32because this is I'm getting trolled.
- 1:12:34God damn it, bro. OK, I'm sorry I didn't with the
- 1:12:38Big Max set says alt score in case I get censored.
- 1:12:42Opti interviewing Anil for another hour on how to score a
- 1:12:45mustache. That's everyone's trolling me
- 1:12:47because. I can't grow a mustache, and
- 1:12:50apparently you have a nice one. I saw the Meme Factory.
- 1:12:53You can grow a thick one. Okay.
- 1:12:55Yeah, it was real authentic. I know Yeller likes to hate on
- 1:13:00it, but I think that's just coming from insecurity.
- 1:13:08All right, next score by Tom Redeye.
- 1:13:10I'm giving those memes a pair of 112 tens. 12 tens, 12/1 last
- 1:13:19one, one last one. All right, Phil, CI give the
- 1:13:22memes hope that everyone could reach .5 Bitcoin.
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