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Jaguars Happy Hour: Tuesday, December 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, December fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: And now a guy who would be saying his tenth reindeer,
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  Speaker 1: but well he's sitting next to Lockerman, j P. Chadlick.
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  Speaker 1: There are nine reindeer. Is that accurate? Oh, Rudolph's to ninth.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in its Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm J P. Shadrick.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a busy show ahead, busy two hours in fact, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockman. He's with us. He'll join
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  Speaker 1: us here in just a moment. Jaguars Dot Com seenor
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  Speaker 1: writer John Oser joins us at four fifteen. He was
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  Speaker 1: aboard Kismut yesterday some media members invited to visit with
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars owner shot Con today, the tenth anniversary of the
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  Speaker 1: approval of his purchase of the Jaguars. We'll get John
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  Speaker 1: Ozer's taken what Mr Khan had to say recapping week four.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the Titans over the Jaguars twenty nothing will
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  Speaker 1: put that one to bed, thank goodness. And we'll look
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  Speaker 1: ahead of week fifteen. The Texans come to town to
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  Speaker 1: face the Jaguars, a battle of two and eleven teams.
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  Speaker 1: Then at five o'clock the Urban Meyer Show on the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. We'll hear from Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the Jags fell this past week twenty to nothing,
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  Speaker 1: the first shutout lost for the Jaguars since two thousand nine.
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  Speaker 1: For the third time this season, they were held to
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  Speaker 1: under two hundred yards, only eight rushing yards on eight
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  Speaker 1: rushing attempts total, both of those franchise lows all time.
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  Speaker 1: The defense doing what they can. It was their second
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  Speaker 1: best day in terms of total yardage allowed for the season,
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  Speaker 1: two d and sixty three yards. Good in the quick
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  Speaker 1: change category after the second half interceptions by Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: Just not enough full complementary team football this past Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: of course, and the Jags take another l in the season,
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  Speaker 1: their second, their second five game losing skid of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. After the game, I'm talking with Shot Khan
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  Speaker 1: about his belief of turning it around. I assured him
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  Speaker 1: that we I still believe in my heart we will.
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  Speaker 1: How fast, you know that depends on Once again, I
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  Speaker 1: still think there's good pieces you watched, don't you watched
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  Speaker 1: out there today? Miles Jack and that defense and some
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  Speaker 1: of those kids. Uh roy smoot, I mean I was
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  Speaker 1: those guys are playing their tails off. You get a
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  Speaker 1: couple of scores on offense, you're right there, and we
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  Speaker 1: didn't do it. So what's the answer. Start leaking information
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  Speaker 1: or some nonsense. No, No, that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's once again I've been very blessed. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not really dealt with that. I'm not dealt with Well
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  Speaker 1: did you hear what he said? What? No, Let's improve
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  Speaker 1: on offense and get our quarterback in a position to
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  Speaker 1: be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother said or
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  Speaker 1: someone said, someone said that will that occupy very little
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  Speaker 1: my time. And if if there is a source, that
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  Speaker 1: source is uneployed, I mean within seconds, if there's some
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  Speaker 1: source that's doing it, that's head coach, are buyer. After
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  Speaker 1: the game this past Sunday, we welcome in Jeff Logman
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  Speaker 1: of course, Logs. Good afternoon, first afternoon. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't know that there's nine Reindeer? Well, okay, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's I mean really I never really, I guess
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  Speaker 1: counted them. I don't know there's nine. He's the ninth.
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  Speaker 1: Rudolph's the ninth, right, I mean, come on, man, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know Rudolph with his nose so Bran,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard the song, Yes, you never sang the root
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  Speaker 1: and you know the song that has the names of
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  Speaker 1: the previous eight, got it? You never? Christmas is kind
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  Speaker 1: of right. When's the Christmas against? Okay? Good this year? Yeah? Good?
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  Speaker 1: Good to know um. Saturday reports going into Sunday's game
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  Speaker 1: about the tension on the staff and the story the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: the weekend, and then Sunday's game happened. The Jags were
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  Speaker 1: shut out this week and today. In fact, shot Con
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  Speaker 1: talking to the media yesterday the tenth anniversary of his ownership,
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  Speaker 1: and Con said that basically he's going to do what's
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  Speaker 1: best with the team in the city moving ahead. He's
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  Speaker 1: not impulsive. That's losing now is different than the losing
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  Speaker 1: in the past because there's a lot of attention on
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  Speaker 1: it and because of the things going on outside the team.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot happening here. Well yeah, I mean there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot happening. And I think part of this too
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  Speaker 1: is the level of disappointment because when when you reset
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  Speaker 1: the franchise, so to speak, and that you have the
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  Speaker 1: first overall pick in the draft, and you bring on
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  Speaker 1: this new regime, you expect some type of improvement, and
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  Speaker 1: especially when you get down the stretch in December. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what you expect that the first overall pick, quarterback Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: to start showing sign is of making progress. And this
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  Speaker 1: pass game was once again a very large step back.
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  Speaker 1: And I still believe in him. I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in him and that that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have all the tools that that are required to be
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  Speaker 1: a great quarterback. But it's just it looks bad. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it also what looks bad is that you
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  Speaker 1: have all these reports and then you have another offensive
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  Speaker 1: performance that is not good. And then on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: there are only eight rushing attempts for eight yards against
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee football team that's not exactly scoring a lot
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  Speaker 1: of points recently, and they're missing a lot of weapons.
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  Speaker 1: So and the and the talk was prior to the game.
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  Speaker 1: When I say the talk, you know, Erman was talking about, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we need to get back to the foundation of what
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  Speaker 1: we are. You know, we wanted to be a team
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  Speaker 1: that runs the football and gets behind the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: But you only have eight carries and one of those
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  Speaker 1: was actually a scramble by Trevor Lawrence. So there's really
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  Speaker 1: only seven called offensive runs in the game and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of throws. And it was a game. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like the score was ever out of out of wax
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  Speaker 1: and nothing in the third quarter. Yeah, so that was confusing,
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  Speaker 1: I mean really confusing. And uh and and I almost
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  Speaker 1: it almost felt because you put so much pressure on
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  Speaker 1: Trevor to perform, then you had him trying to do
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  Speaker 1: too much, and then it leads to four interceptions, which
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  Speaker 1: it was not all his fault he admitted were obviously
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  Speaker 1: Well the first one was the first one was not
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  Speaker 1: his fault because that was off of the hands of
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  Speaker 1: Lavisca Chanal. Now, if Lavisca doesn't catch the ball when
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  Speaker 1: it's in his hands and he sees it's see that's coming,
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  Speaker 1: James Robinson put the ball on the ground, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So this is what people do. And rightfully, So if
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  Speaker 1: Lavisca lets that ball goes through his hands leads on interception,
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  Speaker 1: why doesn't he get benched for twenty reps? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what people are waiting to see what happens, right,
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  Speaker 1: James Robinson puts the ball on the turf and then
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  Speaker 1: he comes out for about twenty snaps. And then Carlos
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  Speaker 1: Hide in the same game, puts the ball on the
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  Speaker 1: turf and he doesn't come out for twenty snaps and
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  Speaker 1: then so I mean, everybody's like, okay, well, what's the
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  Speaker 1: punishment for being responsible for a turnover? But the interceptions, Lavisco,
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  Speaker 1: that was totally on him on the first one. The
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  Speaker 1: second one was a very interesting play and in fact,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna look at this on Jaguars All Access on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night. A little teas there, but to give it
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  Speaker 1: to you in summary, the Titans are shown cover zero blitz.
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  Speaker 1: They're bringing everybody coming, or is gonna bring everybody. They're
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  Speaker 1: showing that they're all coming. Linebackers are walked up to
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  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and everything, and so he thinks
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  Speaker 1: that he's got Tavon Austin man coverage against Kevin Byrd
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  Speaker 1: to the slot on the right side. The linebacker to
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  Speaker 1: that side, jay On Brown, comes and then and after
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  Speaker 1: drawing the attention of the lineman to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: that happens so that there's none blocked defender that's buzzing
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  Speaker 1: now in the face of Trevor Lawrence. He drops out
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  Speaker 1: the last minute, gets a hand on the ball, tips
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  Speaker 1: to himself, makes interception. That's just a great play that happens,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a great defensive design but a great individual play.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, that's a learning experience for Trevor that happens.
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  Speaker 1: The third interception was uh, I think that was the
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  Speaker 1: treadwell on a crossing route and it was a poor decision.
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  Speaker 1: The last one was Jadon Mickens doesn't finish the play
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't a wise decision by Trevor to make
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  Speaker 1: that throw. But Jadon Mixins now has to become a
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  Speaker 1: defensive back. You can't just sit there and accept the
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  Speaker 1: fact that this was a bad ball and that I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to catch it. Okay, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to catch it. Now I have to
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  Speaker 1: switch my mindset to be from a wide receiver of
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  Speaker 1: catching it too. Now I'm gonna be a defensive back
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  Speaker 1: and I gotta break this pass up. And he didn't
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  Speaker 1: do it, so but it it was just it was
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  Speaker 1: a bad weekend overall on so many different fronts. Because
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  Speaker 1: you had the article that was written by Tom Pellicero
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  Speaker 1: and NFL dot Com and Tom is is as reputable
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  Speaker 1: as they come. If he wrote it, then then then
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  Speaker 1: I believe a lot of the things that he said.
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  Speaker 1: And then you had the performance on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: and so it just it just doesn't make it better.
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  Speaker 1: And my point was is that you know, you you
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  Speaker 1: had so much hope that things were going to get
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  Speaker 1: better and now they're not. And I think it just
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  Speaker 1: increases the scrutiny on the lack of success. And is
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  Speaker 1: that right? Wrong and different? It's reality, That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what Mr Kann was saying, and some of
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  Speaker 1: these articles that have come out yesterday and today after
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  Speaker 1: his visit with the media, we'll hear from John Osier
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  Speaker 1: coming up in just a minute. He was there yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Get his thoughts on what Mr Kanna had to say.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there, of course, about the
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  Speaker 1: football team and downtown development and everything moving ahead there.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, four games to go. This team has
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  Speaker 1: scored nine points a game since the bye week on offense.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's not really they haven't shown it, at
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  Speaker 1: least recently, a track record of being able to bounce
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  Speaker 1: back and do something differently moving ahead, especially the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks with the lack of carries and success
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  Speaker 1: in the running game JP the first game of the year,
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  Speaker 1: the first game for the young quarterback Trevor Lawrence. How
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  Speaker 1: many times did they throw the ball? It'st one? I
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  Speaker 1: mean who I mean, that's that's crazy. And so you
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  Speaker 1: want to get back to be in your core. Well
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, you really never established it and you
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  Speaker 1: should have established it because you have a young quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and that's that's the hard part. And the offensive line, Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Is that what you want to
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  Speaker 1: do with a rookie quarterback in the very first game
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  Speaker 1: ever against the Texans team. By the way, that's not
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  Speaker 1: very good. I don't think that's very wise. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that brings into question just just like this pass game.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I bring that up is like this
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  Speaker 1: pass game, you have seven called runs for the running backs.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you really need for young quarterback? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're you're trying to create and facilitate development and
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  Speaker 1: it takes time. Now, is making him throw the ball
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  Speaker 1: fifty one times? Is that going to accelerate his development?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean it could, it could,
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  Speaker 1: because you're asking him to throw the ball a ton,
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  Speaker 1: But the problem is that you might risk the opposite
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  Speaker 1: effect and that you're not facilitating growth and improvement, and
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  Speaker 1: that you're encouraging failure and frustration. And so that's I
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  Speaker 1: think that an interesting argument back and forth is what
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  Speaker 1: is the proper way to go about it? But it's
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  Speaker 1: it's just frustrating JP and I think it's frustrating for
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  Speaker 1: everybody involved in the offensive line, which we know that
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  Speaker 1: this offensive it is not built to pass protect all
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  Speaker 1: day long. They had a bad performance that three out
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  Speaker 1: of the five did not play well at all. Juwan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor bad game, Andrew Norwell bad game, right guard Ben
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  Speaker 1: Barte bad game. Three out of the five, Cam Robinson okay,
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  Speaker 1: not great, Tyler Shatley Okay, not great. So if you
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  Speaker 1: have five components and three were bad and two were
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  Speaker 1: not great, can you win the cancers? No, they can't.
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  Speaker 1: And Jeffrey Simmons was it was a man child. Man child.
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  Speaker 1: He's a really good player. That's two weeks in a
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  Speaker 1: row that a defensive tackle has had a has had
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  Speaker 1: his way with the Jaguars offensive line because he went
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  Speaker 1: from Aaron Donald to Jeffrey Simmons. He's in a well. Look,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons is a really good player too. He's big, strong,
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  Speaker 1: a powerful. He's a different player than a Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 1: As quick and strong as an ox, but quick. That
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  Speaker 1: quickness and leverage that he plays the game with is
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  Speaker 1: so unique. By the way, did you see it last night?
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  Speaker 1: Monday night football? Through the right guard into the quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: walked him back into Kyler Murray? Oh boy, did you
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  Speaker 1: see the one that Ben Part's got run over? By
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  Speaker 1: the way against Tennessee one? Uh yeah, I mean that
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  Speaker 1: was not a good performance by the offensive line and Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: And and the reality is this rivalry because it is
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  Speaker 1: a rivalry. Every game in division is a rivalry. Write
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  Speaker 1: it down. Okay, it's not somewhat of a rivalry. It's
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  Speaker 1: a rivalry. And when it is, that means you better
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  Speaker 1: strap up. And it's a physical affair. And Jacksonville versus
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee is about being physical. And they were not physical
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  Speaker 1: in that game. They didn't they didn't have a game
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  Speaker 1: plan to be physical, and that was disappointing. Texans have
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  Speaker 1: won the last seven meetings against the Jags and eighteen
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  Speaker 1: of the last twenty four. The Jaguars will try to
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  Speaker 1: break that trend. This Sunday will return in a moment,
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  Speaker 1: and the Ozone joins us. Jaguars dot Com Senior writer
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  Speaker 1: John Osan was a board Kids but yesterday look at
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  Speaker 1: his thoughts on Jaguars Owners shot CON's meeting with the
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  Speaker 1: Com Senior writer John Osier I. I typically watched this
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  Speaker 1: show from Afar, waiting for my chance to go on
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  Speaker 1: like the B Team tomorrow with Bucky Brooks that's sitting
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  Speaker 1: here with Logs. I mean, this is I'm on his
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  Speaker 1: show now, this is this is a j p show. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I just work here. This is logs world open. The
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  Speaker 1: code works right, no doubt. So. All right, today's the
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  Speaker 1: tenth anniversary of the shot Con ownership. I believe it's
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  Speaker 1: crazy how quick a decade has gone by. And yesterday
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  Speaker 1: he hosted a number of media folks on the yacht downtown.
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  Speaker 1: You were among those. It's a nice little yacht, not bad,
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  Speaker 1: it's a nice little don't call it a boat. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to call it. It's it's staggering,
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  Speaker 1: but it's uh yeah, And he uh yes, spoke to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us about you know, talk to him
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  Speaker 1: about the Meyer situation, talked about his ten years as owner,
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  Speaker 1: uh for about fifty minutes and uh yeah, as Ebony said,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be happy to enough a question. Yeah. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's start with the football talk that's top of mind
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  Speaker 1: for everybody. Or Meyers taking heat from all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: and that means Sean Kan's taking heat from all over
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  Speaker 1: the place as well. How he respond to some of
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  Speaker 1: that on that front like he usually does. Uh, he
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  Speaker 1: understands the frustration of fans. Uh, he's his money quote
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  Speaker 1: if you will, regarding urban was He's not gonna make
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  Speaker 1: herkey jerky decisions or you know, helter skelter, helter skelter,
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  Speaker 1: horkey jerky's for the same thing. He's never been one
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  Speaker 1: to do that. I can't imagine him ever beyond just
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  Speaker 1: the absolute obvious when uh Gus Bradley was was let go.
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  Speaker 1: He's not a mid season guy, He's not a after
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  Speaker 1: the first season guy. But I thought he was very
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  Speaker 1: clear that um when discussing Urban Meyer, he said he's
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  Speaker 1: going to make the best decision based on the city,
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  Speaker 1: based on the team, etcetera, etcetera. I really didn't think
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  Speaker 1: he leaned one direction or the other. So, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's four games left in the season. Uh, there has
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  Speaker 1: been bad looks on and off the field. I think
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  Speaker 1: show just doesn't want to say anything right now. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get a vibe either way. Uh So I guess
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  Speaker 1: that's the best answer. I think that's what he was
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  Speaker 1: trying to put out that you know, he uh not.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't want to say anything yesterday, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought he didn't say anything very tactfully. You go
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  Speaker 1: back to what happened in Cincinnati where Urban stay behind
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  Speaker 1: and then Sean puts out a statement saying that Urban
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  Speaker 1: has to earn the respect on the trust back and
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  Speaker 1: he was not Did he comment in on any of
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  Speaker 1: that in the progress of that Not really. UM, I
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  Speaker 1: thought he might. Uh, I didn't really talk about that comment. Uh, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: because there's been so much else happened since that. I
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  Speaker 1: got the impression that the people asking questions I asked
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  Speaker 1: as a couple at the end or one at the end,
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  Speaker 1: But it felt like the vibe was more about the
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  Speaker 1: reports of the last week and the season overall, and
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  Speaker 1: after about twenty minutes, it got more into shot in
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  Speaker 1: the city. Uh. The Urban Meyer questions were about ten
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  Speaker 1: twelve minutes, but it didn't really get to that didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to that comment. Um, I think that's a a
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  Speaker 1: fair question that probably should have been asked. Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 1: Com senior writer John Osier with us. I saw some
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  Speaker 1: of the quotes that came out, and you know, Gus
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  Speaker 1: Bradley was here for four years, Doug Marone was here
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  Speaker 1: for four years, and it was just the lowly Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: out of the way. There wasn't a lot of noise
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  Speaker 1: around the organization then. But now, well the Jags are
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: two and eleven and there's a lot of noise and
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs in the organization. Yeah, And I think
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I read some comments from people taking that a bunch
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: of different ways. I didn't get the feeling that Shod
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: was saying, Hey, I love the fact that there's a
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs in the organization becomes of urban. It
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: didn't feel to me like he was particularly going a
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: direction with that. I thought he was more just making
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a comment that one reason that these things are getting
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: played up so much and making such national headlines is
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: because it's urban Meyer. Uh. That's the price of admission
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: when you hire Urban Meyer, uber successful head coach who
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: is very polarizing. But it I didn't take it. To me.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel him going a direction of that's bad
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: or good. It seemed to me, and you guys have
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: just talked a shot a lot. Sometimes he just sort
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of states things, And that's what it felt like to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: me that he was more just making the observation, here's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: why this is so high profile. Uh. I didn't feel
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: like he was saying that was bad or good. Here's
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not a better answer on here's why it's different, and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that's that's Yeah. And he's a very analytical, very thoughtful
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: person and during interviews he does that a lot where
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: he will just sort of talk about, Okay, here's why
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I think it got to this point, won't really offer
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: any commentary on it. And I thought that's what he
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: was doing there. So how was the food and drink?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It was, Well, you've been on kismet. Well this is
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a new one, I think, right, I you know, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: don't know from new to good. I know again, it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a staggering piece of machinery. Yeah, it's pretty much to enjoy.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: You probably fish off that a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: let's go a little bit. It was good. It was sliders,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it was apps. I mean, it's very much when you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: get a bunch of the media guys. I'm not sure
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: if you ever saw the movie Caddy Shot, but it's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Caddie Day. It's very much Caddie Day at the pool.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And uh, that's a didn't take long until the staff
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, it's it's time for this to end.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: And h by the way, it's fantastic. And as when
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you actually described that perfectly, Uh, John Ozan with the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Sjaguars dot Com senior writer, you mentioned it. Let's dig
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a little deeper now into the downtown development portion of
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: this thing. That's the next steps. Of course, football Performance
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Center is next up. Their plans in the works for
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the Four Seasons and the Shipyards property on top of that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And as as Mr Khan said, you know, not a
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: lot in general has happened downtown in the last ten years,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: but the plan is to make that change very quickly. Well,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and you're not getting too much into the details because
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: then you're getting into the nuts and bolts. But the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Four Seasons hotel, in the residential center and the office
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: spaces people see now it he has a vision for
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: what downtown Jacksonville should look like to grow. And he
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: used the phrase, uh aspiration, you know, an aspiration point. Um.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You know, it's clearer to me that he feels passionately
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: about the Four Seasons working. He made a comment you
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: know his name online. We were talking to a reporter about,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you know, will it work or not? And there's been
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: people in Jacksonville say, well, why should it be here?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Mark Lampy made a good point that shod wants it
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to be here because he believes it can be here
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and that the city of Jacksonville. Uh, he would like
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to see it sort of get on board with that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: idea that it's okay for this town to have four seasons.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: When I listened to Shot and talked to him about it,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: it's a pride thing. He believes in this in this town.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: He believes this can work and and I believe it
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: will reshape everything. And uh I thought the other significant
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: thing about this, along these same lines, when they were
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: talking about the stadium renovation, uh Mark Lamping made the comment,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: feels better about that than he ever has. Uh Mark's
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: not really given to that sort of statement unless he
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: feels pretty strongly about it. To me, I just came
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: away talking about the renovations, talking about the stadium renovations
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and this improvement. We just saw they feel better about
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the direction of this and the possibilities for it before.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I think they hoped and very much believe it would
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: all be a good thing. Listening to them yesterday, there's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a firm belief that it's going to happen in some capacity,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and they feel good about that direction. You know, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: know it's polarizing issue, but I thought it sounded great.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I remember in coming here and seeing unfortunately, Yeah, the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: whole shipyards area and I just never forget that. Me
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and Joel Shmany were having a conversation about, man, we
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: gotta find out how we can, if we can, if
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that's for sale, I mean, that's like prime river front
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that needs to be you know, developed out of dout it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: We thought it would be a hot property and here
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: we are, and at that point that was deep into
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it years looking as it did. And again that's always
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: in shots thing. You know, there's so much potential down here.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Anybody who drives through downtown Jacksonville has to have the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: thought of, boy, what possibility there is when you talk
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: about a legacy Yeah, I mean if you if you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you get all this done and you developed that whole
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you know, this whole area around the stadium, I mean,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that's that's a legacy project. And that remembered for to me.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: You know. JP read the story this morning, a story
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: for jawarys dot com. The lead quote I used basically
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: he feels like this is I forget the exact quote,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: but a possibility and a way to make an impact
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in a great city, a way to move the needle
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in a great city. And you use a phrase, how
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: many chances do you get to do that. How many
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: NFL owners, how many teams have this raw material essentially
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: there too grow? And you know, because you go to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: other cities and you just you don't have the real state.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You don't. It's right, exactly, you don't have the ability.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And he said, that's what moves the needle. That's what
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: he was asked specifically, why you passionate about Jackson's People
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: always question it, And that's what he said, This is
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a chance to I don't think he used the word legacy.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: How many times do you get a chance to move
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the needle in a good way in a great American city?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Very rarely? That really is the power here. Yeah, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you know I get that people want to question everything
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: these days. I've heard him say that over and over again.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that's his vision for it, that's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: his motivation. Yeah, that's how I feel about it. All right, Hey,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: thanks for the coming down to the show. By the way, Johnny,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: did you hear j P turned forty on Sunday? We
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: we we have to have that. I'll be honest, here's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: what a big deal that was. I went, you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: he had a happy hour event. I went, Jackie's just
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: seen the line at this place. Really it was three blocks. Now.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: My wife and I said, we can't deal it. We're
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: both in our fifties. We can't be out that late.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But evidently it was a shin big man huh by
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a happy confirm, nor deny those those reports, but a number.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It is a big number. Yes, congratulations your number. Though
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit behind. John, appreciate it, man, I'm
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: well done on the reporting. We appreciate that. On Jaguars
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: dot Com, check it out Jaguars dot Com Senior writer.
• 26:24
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• 26:26
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• 27:10
  Speaker 1: senior writer John Oshan giving us the breakdown of the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: meeting on Kismett. I gotta say that I've always been
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a big fan of John's and John covered the Jaguars
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: as a beat writer back in the early days with Prisco.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: He did. And then when John left for a while,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: he was in Indianapolis and was covering Colts and it
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was writing for Colts dot com, and then I think
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: also another publication there when they disbanded their in house
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: kind of writing staff or on the website. And if
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: people have never read John Osher on Jaguars dot com,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: then they're making a mistake because I literally when we
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: used to prepare, prepare for the cults, the cults, pr
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: staff was notorious for having a terrible release to gather
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: information for for a game day broad cast. So what
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: would I do. I would always read John Oshan to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: get the skinny on what was going on with the cults.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And so, folks, if you want the skinny, and I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: get the skinny too from John still to this day,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: go to Jaguars dot com because he's simply the best
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: sits right here down the hall, and it does a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: great job in that it for a long long time
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and has some good stuff on Jaguars owner shot con
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the conversation. I haven't read that, but I will. There's
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: two stories up on Jaguars dot com as we speak.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I've been here today working with you, so I'll get
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to it. Like I enjoy this on every time, you're
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: kind of bringing me down. How is that? I don't know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? JP, or just look the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: game and the weekend for the Jaguars did not go well.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: It was bad. It was and I think that that
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: has totally brought you down a little bit. And then
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in turn, you're kind of it's like a vicious cycle. Okay,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it brought you down, and then I you know, I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: was there, Okay, I saw it. It wasn't good. It
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't a great weekend, and so I kind of bounced
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: back a little bit on Monday and not come in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: here and hang out with you. And now and you're
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: trying to bring me down. I'm not. It's not accurate
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: at all. First of all, I'm positive guy, and but
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it's mid December. The team's not playing well. And the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: offense didn't score. And no, but I'm gonna look, there
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: was a lot of negative to this game, and trust me,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I've got a list of negative here. Okay, the offensive
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: lines performance wasn't well. The Trevor appeared to be taking
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a step back, the commitment to the run game was
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: not there. Those things are all true and they cannot
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: be denied, and especially on a weekend or the stories
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that were publishing, it kind of becomes dog piling, I guess.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But it's turned. Okay, it's turned. I mean it, it happens.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But I think with all of the negative over the weekend,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the one thing that was positive that gets lost in
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the mix because is of the negativity, which is, like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I said, again, it's earned the defensive performance in a
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: game in which the offense did nothing. And that's not
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the first time that's happened. This not but but here's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the reality. The last couple of games, the defense has
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: not been playing particularly well. Going into that game, I
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: think I threw the number out there and I still
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: got it on my board here at the Jaguars defense
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: going into Tennessee in the four previous game had had
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: allowed five seventy five yards rushing on d carries. That's
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a lot. So they weren't up to the standard that
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: they had said earlier in the years. But the one
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: category that they have been good at and they were
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: amazing at it in this past game because the offense
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: through and Trevor Lawrence through four interceptions and I'm not
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: gonna say it was all on Trevor the offense through
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: four interceptions. The Jaguars defense responded in the subsequent Titans
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: possessions to only allow twenty one yards and to allow
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a field goal three points. That for the season, now,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: this is an impressive number because the offense has turned
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: it over time. They have only allowed as a defense
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: sixty four points off of those twenty five offensive giveaways.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's really good. And the one thing that's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: negative that continues to be negative about the Jaguars defense,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: they're not taking the ball away and that's that's a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: problem that that they've got to find ways to take
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the ball away. And the one number that's disturbing they
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: have one one recovered fumble on the air. As a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: defense getting caused fumbles or recovering fumbles as a defense
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: getting takeaways, that's not a talent issue. That's not that's coaching,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and that's attention to detail and that's focus, and it's
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: not happening for the defense. That's the number that bothers
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: me the most as the defense, because you can do
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that if you if you coach it up and the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: players have the awareness for it and they and you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: have players that realize this is what I need to do,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: like Josh Allen did a couple of weeks ago, punching
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the ball out. Great play. Where is that from other
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: people on the defense and we're not seeing it. That's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: clearly an area that Joe Cullen and his coaches coaching
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: staff on the defensive side of the ball can and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: should get better at because, like I said, that is
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: not necessarily a talent issue. But the one thing I
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: will say in their defense, takeaways a lot of times
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: happen when the score differential gets in your favor. So
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: in other words, you're winning, teams feel like they have
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to press, like Trevor did late in the ball game,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Well we're not making anything happen. We gotta force one here,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you end up finding
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a way of making an interception or somebody gets careless
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: with the ball because they're trying to do too much
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: because their teams not playing well and they're trying to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: make up for somebody else messing up, and the and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the defense doesn't have that ability to be a front
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: running team in a game to have the opponents make mistakes.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Teams that are playing the Jaguars right now, you know
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: what they're thinking is we score seventeen points. W we won,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So they're playing conservative. The Tennessee Titans played extremely conservative.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: How many balls down the field did you see Tanny
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Hill thrown up? Hardly any? Because there's a mindset now
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: when you play the Jaguars, and it's the right mindset.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Don't make a mistake, Just get enough points. They're not
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: good enough on offense to score. Don't don't beat yourself
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. And that will be the Texans mindset
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: when they come in here on Sunday as well. Let's
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: take a look at the Houston Texans offense, and they
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: are dead last in the league and a number of categories,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: including scoring. They are two tenths of a point worse
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: than the Jaguars and points per game. They are last
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: in total offense, last and rushing offense thirty feet in
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: passing offense. Um, they've given the ball away twenty times
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: this season, ten fumbles lost, ten interceptions, which is bottom third. Yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you know, so they're not a good offense. They've had
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: so many changes, injuries, guys have moved on. Davis Mills
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: is the quarterback now committed to him. He just just
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: had a seventh start. Yeah, and you know there's talk
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: down there talking to folks down there today that you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: if this offseason goes a certain way, they might just
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: circle behind him next season. Two. That's all up in
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the air. Of course, there's still four games left this season.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: But last week through over three thirty yards touchdown. Uh
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: seven starts as you said, log sixty six passing in
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: those games and eight touchdowns, eight interceptions. Third round pick
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: this year out of Stanford, So he's he's triggering all
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: this right now. Let me let me just give you, okay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And in these categories, Davis Mills is better than Trevor
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Lawrence completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown percentage, he's better
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in the interception percentage category. His rating is higher. I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: mean those numbers when we look at that as Jaguar fans,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: we go, wait a minute, Wait a minute. This this
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: is a third round pick that's playing for the Texans
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and we got the first overall pick in the draft,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and ours is not playing better than theirs. If you
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: look at those numbers, that would bother you, right concerning Yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that and that's and that that's I think that's something
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that's going forward that that has to be fixed and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: that's not look at the text. You know, people talk
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: about and people have used you know, people have used excuses,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Oh well, you know we've had injuries or you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars have had injuries, they've lost guys dotata dot
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: name me somebody on the Texans offense. That's a big
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: time weapon. Yeah, you don't have many. I mean there's many. Yeah,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I mean cooks. But that's about it. And that's that's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: stretching it. Okay, yeah, okay then, or I mean is
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: it so? Is is it a weapons issue for Trevor
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: m I mean, that's my point is that you have
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: enough weapons to where the performance can and should be
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: better right now, especially at this point of the season
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: when he has the number of snaps that he has
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: under his belt. That's got to get better for Trevor Lawrence.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm not pointing the finger at him. I mean
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's a finger that gets pointed at the
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: entire process, you know, that gets pointed at coaches, at
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: at the program, at ever his teammates. I mean, that's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: everything's better. Absolutely, Houston defense. I guess what they haven't
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: played much better than the offense has done in Houston
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: this year. This is far from the Texans defense of
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: about five years ago. Those guys are gone now. They
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: sent away. Is that Cunningham And last week they waived
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: him and sposedly violated some team rules. Tardiness, et cetera
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: was an issue with him in Houston. Well he's gone.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Now he's with the Titans, and they'll get to figure
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: it out. Which Mike Rabel coached him when Mike was
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a coach with Houston Texans. And so here's here's my
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: thing on that Mike knows him obviously very well, if
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: he coached him and then he picks him up. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that was a waiver claim as it was, And where
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars at in the waiver claim more, they're right
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: up there near the top. I wonder if that was
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: considered just a thought. I don't know the answer to that.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that because I can tell you that us
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham. I haven't watched him, and I don't know
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: what happened with the issues this year. But when you
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: watch Zack Cunningham, I think it was a second round pick.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe a first round pick. I can't remember, because he's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a high pick. He's a really good football player, really
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: good football player, can play in space, he's fast, he
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: can blitz, he can do a lot of different things.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And I don't know cap numbers, I don't know guaranteed money,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: because all of those things have to factor in. But
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: when you find out that somebody was available and you go, Okay,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that was an opportunity for this team to maybe acquire
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: some better talent, I'm going, well, I wonder why they
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: didn't do that. That's thinking out loud? Is that cutting him?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Second round pick out of Vanderbilt? Um? It was the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Lea's leading tackler last year. He's a Pro Bowl at
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: at one point he was considered a Pro Bowl type
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: caliber linebacker. And who's the other guy that was in
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the middle with him? It was that cunning Ham and
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Hard head, I mean just a tough, physical linebacker. About
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Bernardrick McKinney. Yeah, those two guys when when when they
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: were you know with j J and Merciless, I mean
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that that that was a good defense, good defense, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that Cunningham was a big part of it. So, uh,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: it will be a totally different looking group when they
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: come rolling in here this Sunday, will return and take
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a look at the Baptist Health injury report for the Jags,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: will look at the a f C South standings though
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you have a pretty good idea, and we'll get our
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: final thoughts and then at five o'clock the Urban Meyers
• 39:40
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• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon, get his thoughts, final thoughts on last week's game,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: moving ahead to the Texans, and much much more coming
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: up from the head coach. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: The Baptist Health Injury Report Baptist Health changing healthcare for
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  Speaker 1: good Orban Meyer Monday said Carlos Hide was in concussion protocol.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Brandon Linder missed last week's game with a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: back issue. There are six players on the reserve injured list,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got four games to go. We'll maybe get
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  Speaker 1: some more from urban Meyer would guess maybe Wednesday when
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  Speaker 1: he speaks with the media on the injury set up.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, that's when the the injury report starts coming
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  Speaker 1: out Wednesday, Thursday, Friday each week, and as you would
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  Speaker 1: expect this time of year logs, you're gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: longer list because of the way the season goes. It's
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: time of year, that's what it is. I mean, it's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: just it's just part of it um and it's not
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: easy to fight through. I can tell you that at
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the end of the year. It when you're when you're losing,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and then you have physical ailments on top, it even
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: makes it more difficult and and and for part of
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that reason, that's one of the things I say that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: this defense should be also not forgotten about how good
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: of a performance that was from this game, because when
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you have an offense that has had the number of
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: weeks of lack of performance, then it's easy probably just
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to say, here we go again. You know, why should
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I play hard? We don't have a chance, and the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the motivation just evaporate eates, And for this defense to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: continue to play as hard as they did, I thought.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I thought that was impressive. And some guys that I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: thought played really well defensively, and I just want to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: mention some names here. Okay, I thought Campbell played solid.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: It's not like the Titans were throwing the ball a lot,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: so it wasn't a lot of expected out of him.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: But you could feel the difference that Shaq Griffin provided
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: in that game because he was matched up against Toulio
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and right from the onset he established
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: with that open field tackle that hey, I'm here to play,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and he made a difference. I thought his play was strong.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen was just kind of That's been about three
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: weeks now, three games for Josh Allen to where you
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: haven't seen a strong performance. And I'm just thinking out
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: loud here, But at the beginning of the Atlanta game
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: he sustained what appeared to be a shoulder injury. Is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: that affecting him now and affecting his ability to perform?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: He's been on the report at least was last week
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: with that. So Damien Wilson had a sack on a
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: blitz at tin tackles. I thought he was outstanding, outstanding.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown was solid as normal. I thought, uh, week before,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: pushed around a little bit of the Atlanta game, pushed
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: around a little bit. I thought he bounced back. Roy
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Robertson Harris was a beast, I mean a beast, smooth
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the week before strong. The only thing that I would
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: criticize Smooth on is that, dude, you can't line up
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: all sides if you're dropping from the linebacking spot. Come on, man,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I can't do that. But he was. But he was strong.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: He had a good performance again. You know, he got
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: five sacks last year, he had a career high five
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: and a half. He's on pace to have a career high.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: And I've I said this last week. He's tough, he
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: plays hard, he's tenacious, and and you've gotta love players
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: like him, love him. But Roy Robertson Harris, I think
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: is a guy that when they acquired him, they were
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: talking about how they didn't know how high the ceiling
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: really was us. That game gave you a glimpse of, Wow,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: this guy could have a much higher ceiling than what
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: they're paying for in free agency. You rarely get that,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: rarely get that. So I really like his performance and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I think he's gotten better and better and better. And
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: obviously he had the ankle injury or early in the season.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: He bounced back from it a little bit and you
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: could tell that he's kind of fighting and kind of
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: find his way. The last couple of weeks his performance
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: has been really good, really good. And the one guy,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: though I will say that did not have a good
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: performance on defense, Tavin Bryant was not good, which was
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: kind of surprising. He had been playing okay and and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I had a game a couple of games there where
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: he played pretty good. He was not good in this game.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: And Miles Jack. Where where are the impact plays that
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack has made in the past. You know what
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Plays on the ball, calls, fumbles, recovered fumbles, interceptions,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: past defense, it's part of it, the position. And he's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: back in the middle of the three four. Now what
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: is it? It's outside a year ago or no. I
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: just I mean, I don't want, I don't think so.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing his own defense. You got your
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: eyes back to the to the ball. It's an opportunity
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to make more plays. And and I just and look,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not he's not playing bad. I'm just saying that
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I thought, and I think he's got another level that
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the what he what he's the level he sat in seventeen.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, Okay. I was hoping he would
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: be able to get back to some of that and
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: uh not. Not not a great year for him. You
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: know what the good news is about this defense continuing
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: to improve, But Miles Jack will knock your socks off.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I mean he's punishing guys still, He's still extremely physical.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: But I mean, the impact plays the game changing plays.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: We're not seeing some of those names you listed off earlier, Robertson, Harris, Wilson, Um,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the one Smoot. They're all on multi year deals here.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: This this is a good core of this defense. It's
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: going to be together for at least another year, if
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: not longer than that of Jack Griffin signed a longer deal.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: So still need still need that inside, the dominant inside
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: kind of pass rusher that can affect the quarterbacks play.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: And everybody wants Aaron Donald, but they only got only
• 46:21
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  Speaker 1: look at the a f C South standings and as
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  Speaker 1: you would expect, they have not changed. The Tennessee Titans
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: are in control of the a f C South nine
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and four, four and one in the division Indie seven
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and six, three and two in the division Houston two
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and eleven there are two wins have been in the division,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and Jacksonville two and eleven. They are oh for four
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: in the a f C South. Upcoming schedules only four
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: weeks remaining in the one campaign. And of course the
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Jaguars this week faced the Houston Texans here at home,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: at the Jets at New England, and then home against Indy.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: And I must say my lock from Monday a couple
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago of the Jaguars sweeping the a f
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: C East is not looking great. The Texans, of course
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: here this week at the Chargers at San fran home
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: against Tennessee, the Colts New England in Indy at Arizona,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: home against Vegas at Jacksonville, and then Tennessee with a
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: tough one at Pittsburgh. That's not a tough home against
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: San Francisco. It's a pretty tough game against Miami and
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: then at Houston. All right, I'll give you that. It's
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: not a super tough schedule for anybody. Really. There is
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the Colts, New England, Arizona, Vegas, the ll come in
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a Week eight team the first three games for Indianapolis
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: is that's a pretty tough matchup. By the way, Mike
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Rabel would absolutely be in the conversation for NFL Coach
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: of the Year because if you look at that Titans
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: football team and you and you really look closely. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: like I like John Robinson, their general manager. I think
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: he's done a pretty good job, but he hasn't been perfect.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Make no mistake, he has not been perfect. And Mike Vyable,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I think has gotten more out of less than what
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of coaches get out of football teams. He's
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: done a really good job and had their big workhorse
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of the season and they are right there
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: at the top and with a chance to fight for
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: that number one seed in the a f C. Urban
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Meyer Show is coming up in just about a minute
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: and a half or so. What do you want to
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: hear from Urban tonight? Well, a couple of things. One
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: about the commitment of the running game or lack thereof,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and then the other thing that was a little bit disturbing.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: You saw that kind of key Keystone Cops play where
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: wide receivers run into each other and it doesn't look
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: good and like, what are you doing? And and there
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: were a couple other instances in the game where the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: wide receiver space scene where that they got in the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: same neighborhood. And for a quarterback, especially a young quarterback,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: if you're not having precision by the people around you,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: makes it extremely difficult for any young quarterback to have success,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: and that's got to get cleaned up. So we need
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to ask him about that as well. Yeah, a lot
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: of noise around the organization right now too. How can
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: he ignore a lot of that and get this team
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: playing better football as a whole? Well here from the
• 49:26
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