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The Late Debate | 11 December · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, gentleman, welcome to the Late tur Base.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Freileitch and Caleb Bond coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's widow speaks out against online conspiracies surrounding her
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: husband's death. The Prime Minister gets a dose of reality
• 0:22
  Speaker 3: from a teenager who tells him.
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  Speaker 2: To his face that kids will simply work around.
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  Speaker 3: The social media ban and reform UK gets an endorsement
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  Speaker 3: that probably didn't need. Bonnie Blue takes time out from
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  Speaker 3: producing pornography to talk up Nigel Faraja's hardline immigration policy.
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  Speaker 4: I see what you did there, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that shortly.
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  Speaker 3: But first Father, Christmas doesn't come for another fourteen days.
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  Speaker 3: But the Christmas Grinch, well he's arrived early.
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  Speaker 2: In Melbourne.
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  Speaker 3: The Grinch, by which I mean the Hume Council, has
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  Speaker 3: ordered a family to take down their Christmas light display,
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  Speaker 3: despite the fact everyone in the neighborhood loves it.
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  Speaker 5: Stephen Jacob's home is the light of Huron Road, a
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  Speaker 5: dazzling Christmas display, but Hume City Council isn't happy.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they're a bit like this s crnch here Christmas
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  Speaker 6: crinch ruining the fund for everyone. I received a letter
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  Speaker 6: in the mail saying I had twenty one days to
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  Speaker 6: remove no items out in front. I would say twenty
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  Speaker 6: dollars fine.
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  Speaker 5: And if the nature strip feature goes, Stephen says he'll
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  Speaker 5: take down the whole display, something neighbors don't want.
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  Speaker 3: Stephen Jacob's crime well, he was given verbal consent but
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  Speaker 3: failed to get written permission to have his magnificent Christmas
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  Speaker 3: light display extend onto the nature strip. Jacob said he'd
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  Speaker 3: spent thousands of dollars and two months putting the Christmas
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  Speaker 3: display together after speaking with four different council officers about
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  Speaker 3: his plans. Will now he's been threatened with a nine
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollar fine if he doesn't pack it all up
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  Speaker 3: by December twenty third, although Kayleb, I'd have to say
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  Speaker 3: the fine would.
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  Speaker 2: Probably be cheaper than paying the power bill.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that may will be true. The bloke's got rheumatoid
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  Speaker 4: arthatis as well. So he's gone to a fair bit
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  Speaker 4: of effort to do this, and the council has still
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  Speaker 4: taken it upon itself to go along and say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: take the thing down or you'll be find nine thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we talked about that poor old lady in
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  Speaker 4: Ballarat the other night where the council wants to find
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  Speaker 4: her five hundred dollars because they don't like that her
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  Speaker 4: garden is forty centimeters larger than it should be or something.
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  Speaker 1: They're threatening him with a nine thousand dollars fine.
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  Speaker 4: But he puts some removable Christmas decorations up on a
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  Speaker 4: nature strip. I mean, is the council doing anything to
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  Speaker 4: maintain the nature strip? In most cases they do very
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  Speaker 4: little with the nature strip. If you ask them become
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  Speaker 4: a moet, they say, moe it to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if he wants to put.
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  Speaker 4: Some council to put some Christmas lights on it, that
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  Speaker 4: to bring some joy to some people, why do you
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  Speaker 4: slap the bloke with a nine thousand dollars fine.
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  Speaker 7: And the fact that he got verbal confirmation he consulted
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  Speaker 7: with the council.
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  Speaker 8: He did everything right.
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  Speaker 7: In fact, I would say even consulting with council officers
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  Speaker 7: no less than four of them is actually above and
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  Speaker 7: beyond what a normal person would or should do. He's
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  Speaker 7: gotten out of his way to appease them. But the
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  Speaker 7: bureaucrats at these councils, honestly, we talked about it the
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  Speaker 7: other night.
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  Speaker 8: They need to be studied.
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  Speaker 7: Who is it sitting at Hume Council who decided, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: this guy who consulted with four of us, who got
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  Speaker 7: verbal permission, who isn't bothering anyone, Let's threaten him with
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  Speaker 7: a nine thousand dollars fine unless he takes his decorations
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  Speaker 7: down before Christmas Eve.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I don't get about this, right, is
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  Speaker 3: that he's been given effectively fourteen days to pack it up,
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  Speaker 3: which would be two days before Christmas. So if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to give him fourteen days, which goes to December
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  Speaker 3: twenty third, why not just give the guy sixteen days
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  Speaker 3: seventeen days so he can have it to Christmas and
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  Speaker 3: then say okay, it away and don't.
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  Speaker 2: Do it again. That would have been the smart move.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's the principle of it, and the principle is
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  Speaker 4: that you've just got to be an absolute pain in
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  Speaker 4: the backside. That's what the council believes. And he said,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, that when he spoke to these council offices,
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  Speaker 4: they told him that he didn't need explicit permission. He
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  Speaker 4: was led to believe that he didn't have to write
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  Speaker 4: to anyone, that the word he had of the council
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  Speaker 4: offices he'd spoken to was enough to say it would
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  Speaker 4: be okay to do it, and then they slap him
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  Speaker 4: with a nine thousand dollar fine. Honestly, find better things
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  Speaker 4: to do with your life. If you're one of the
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  Speaker 4: people at Hume Council who has overseen this and has
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  Speaker 4: been part of it, look, I'm glad I'm not coming
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  Speaker 4: to your family Christmas. Put it that way, talking about
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  Speaker 4: Christmas sort of being ruined in some places. If you
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  Speaker 4: live in Melbourne, you'd probably know about the Maya Windows.
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  Speaker 4: They put on a big Christmas display every year, and
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  Speaker 4: in Sydney, David Jones normally does it. They have their
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  Speaker 4: Christmas windows in the middle of the city, except they're
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  Speaker 4: not doing that this year. They decided instead of Christmas,
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  Speaker 4: which is you know, joyous and wonderful, and they normally
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  Speaker 4: have a quite an elaborate display that people line up
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  Speaker 4: on the morning that it's open to come and see,
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  Speaker 4: they instead decided they'd have what you can see there,
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  Speaker 4: which is actually just promotion for a bunch of luxury
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  Speaker 4: brands and their own loyalty program. They decided that they
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  Speaker 4: would give promotion not to Christmas itself, but the loyalty
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  Speaker 4: mascot for David Jones, who happens to be Domino the Dalmation,
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  Speaker 4: and people.
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  Speaker 1: Rocked up and gone, what's this?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I came along to see the lovely Christmas
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  Speaker 4: display that David Jones has been doing for decades. It's
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  Speaker 4: not there until we get some bloody Dalmatian. What's a
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  Speaker 4: Dalmatian have.
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  Speaker 2: To do with Christmas?
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  Speaker 4: Well, David Jones has said to this has been a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a backlash about it. They say, we understand
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  Speaker 4: how deeply sentimental the Christmas windows are for many families
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  Speaker 4: and truly appreciate the feedback.
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  Speaker 1: This year, we're.
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  Speaker 4: Celebrating a very rewarding Christmas, a season all about the
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  Speaker 4: joy of giving cherishing moments with loved ones and enjoying
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  Speaker 4: the benefits of our new loyalty program.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's always what I think.
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  Speaker 4: Of when I think of Christmas. To reflect this theme,
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  Speaker 4: the Elizabeth Street windows featured Domino the Dalmation, our symbol
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  Speaker 4: of loyalty, brought to life through animation in our campaign.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what a flowery loader buncom.
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  Speaker 2: That is, you've.
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  Speaker 4: Taken away the Christmas display and like, you know, I know,
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  Speaker 4: Christmas has become a commercial being now right, but this
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  Speaker 4: is like taking it to the nth degree. You've taken
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  Speaker 4: away a traditional Christmas display that people love and said
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  Speaker 4: that Christmas is actually about the benefits of the new
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  Speaker 4: David Jones loyalty program.
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  Speaker 2: How does the jingle go? There's no other store like
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  Speaker 2: Data Jones. Yeah, well, thank god.
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  Speaker 3: Even the apology was just an excuse to promote their
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  Speaker 3: loyalty program.
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  Speaker 7: Oh it's so so bad. And I don't understand what
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  Speaker 7: the thinking is behind this, because I remember going to
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  Speaker 7: the Maya Windows when I grew up in Melbourne and
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  Speaker 7: every year Mom and Dad would take us and it
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  Speaker 7: was so exciting and there would be people lined up,
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  Speaker 7: and the same thing at David Jones in Sydney. People
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  Speaker 7: would buy tickets, they would line up. It would bring
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  Speaker 7: thousands of people to the store.
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  Speaker 2: See the massive crowd outside.
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  Speaker 7: The crowds enthralled with the beauty that is David Jones's
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  Speaker 7: own marketing campaign for its loyalty program.
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  Speaker 2: What does festive fare me?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's just such a nigners happy Holidays.
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  Speaker 7: It's actually worse than Happy Holidays. Festive fare is so
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  Speaker 7: empty and meaningless. But again, whoever was in charge of
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  Speaker 7: David Jones's marketing this Christmas should be sacked because that
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  Speaker 7: is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they have heard some of the feedback, because they've
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  Speaker 4: come out this evening after this already took off today
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  Speaker 4: and put out another statement in which they say, we
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  Speaker 4: acknowledge that this year's display has fallen short of expectations
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  Speaker 4: and has not reflected what many in the community were
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  Speaker 4: hoping for. We greatly value our customers feedback and we'll
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  Speaker 4: take it on board as we plan future celebrations. We
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  Speaker 4: look forward to delighting our customers next year.
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  Speaker 2: Can I ask a question?
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  Speaker 3: They say, it's the Christmas display has fallen short of
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  Speaker 3: people's expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Do you what do you think people were expecting?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they weren't expecting Christal Nation that's promoting their loyalty.
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  Speaker 2: Program expecting Christmas. They be shocked at that. Oh, well, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe we'll get the Christmas display back next year.
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  Speaker 4: But like this is just it's a great example of
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  Speaker 4: the corporate world pushing it a little too far. Like
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  Speaker 4: Christmas is already corporatized without turning it into a promotion
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  Speaker 4: for your loyalty program and taking away a lovely thing
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  Speaker 4: that people like about Christmas. This is where people in
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  Speaker 4: marketing don't seem to understand that, you know, if it
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  Speaker 4: ain't broke, don't fix it, and you'll get more people
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  Speaker 4: through the door if you have a nice Christmas display
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  Speaker 4: out the front instead of some big ad for a
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  Speaker 4: luxury brand and your loyalty program.
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  Speaker 1: And they haven't taught it.
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  Speaker 4: They've canceled Christmas so soon, all the Christmas gear inside.
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  Speaker 4: They just thought that the one thing that they're really
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  Speaker 4: known for, they wouldn't do bizarre.
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  Speaker 7: To be honest, when you look at that, it almost
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  Speaker 7: seems as though they actually forgot they even had to
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  Speaker 7: put on Christmas stalls. That's what that looks like. And
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  Speaker 7: someone's gone, oh, shoot, we've totally forgotten. But let's change
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  Speaker 7: gears a little bit and head over to the US
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  Speaker 7: where the widow of Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated earlier
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  Speaker 7: this year, Erica Kirk. She has spoken out now since
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  Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk's death.
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  Speaker 8: You would expect this to.
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  Speaker 7: Be a moment where all of America left and right
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  Speaker 7: could come together and condemn political violence and get behind
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  Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk's mission, which was through freedom of speech, traveling
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  Speaker 7: around and having political discussions. Well, we saw in the
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  Speaker 7: aftermath of Charlie Kirk's death what the left did. Many
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  Speaker 7: of them celebrated his murder, but on the right, something
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  Speaker 7: very disturbing has happened. There has been this fracturing of
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  Speaker 7: conservative voices, many of whom have started peddling conspiracy theories
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  Speaker 7: as to why Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 8: Died, how he died.
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  Speaker 7: One of the most prominent people pushing this is Candice Owens,
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  Speaker 7: who five days a week since he was murdered, has
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  Speaker 7: produced an hour long podcast analyzing how it couldn't possibly
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  Speaker 7: have been the guy Tyler Robinson that the FBI caught.
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  Speaker 7: It must actually have been someone else, an internal cover
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  Speaker 7: up by TPUSA. She also thinks the French and Israeli
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  Speaker 7: governments are somehow involved in this. It is absolutely bonkers.
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  Speaker 7: By thanks to all of our conspiracy theories, Kennie Owens'
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  Speaker 7: podcast is.
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  Speaker 8: Now number one in the world. Now.
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  Speaker 7: Paul Erica Kirk, who's still grieving her husband, trying to
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  Speaker 7: steward this organization, well, she has just had enough.
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  Speaker 8: Have a look.
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  Speaker 9: But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me,
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  Speaker 9: call me names, I don't care, call me what you want,
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  Speaker 9: go down that rabbit hole, whatever. But when you go
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  Speaker 9: after my family, my turning Point, USA family, my Charlie
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  Speaker 9: kirkshow family, When you go after the people that I love,
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  Speaker 9: and you're making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single
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  Speaker 9: episode going after the people that I love because somehow
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  Speaker 9: they're in on this.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 7: Now, it has been this relentless campaign to try and
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  Speaker 7: smear everyone in Turning Point USA donors, as I said,
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  Speaker 7: these Rley and French government as somehow being part of
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  Speaker 7: this assassination, which is mind boggling. But James, it has
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  Speaker 7: torn apart the right and Republican Party in the US.
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  Speaker 7: They're polling since all this happened. You had expect it
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  Speaker 7: to go up. It's actually nose dived and never has
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  Speaker 7: there been more division on the conservative side of politics.
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought it was pretty obvious.
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  Speaker 3: Candorce Owens is doing quite well from the death of
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk. You mentioned her podcast has been number one
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  Speaker 3: since Charlie Kirk's death.
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  Speaker 2: Her views or her listens.
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  Speaker 3: Per episode of increased twenty five percent since she's been
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  Speaker 3: doing this whole who killed Charlie Kirk conspiracy stuff, even
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  Speaker 3: down to the point that she says there's a big
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  Speaker 3: conspiracy around where Charlie Kirk has been buried, and of
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  Speaker 3: course his burial plot has not been made public because
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  Speaker 3: as we saw after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, psychos
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  Speaker 3: from the left kept on going on and on about
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk and wishing ill on his family, and so
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  Speaker 3: they've kept the burial plot secrets so that they can
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  Speaker 3: go and mourn without fear of being confronted by lefties
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  Speaker 3: at the grave site. But that's not enough for Candace Owens.
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  Speaker 3: She believes there's some kind of conspiracy even behind that,
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  Speaker 3: and she accuses Erica Kirk of wanting to take control
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  Speaker 3: of Turning Point for various reasons that I suppose relate
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  Speaker 3: to either money or control or power. When Candace Owens,
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  Speaker 3: as you pointed out, as the one who's herself doing
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  Speaker 3: very very well out of this while claiming that her
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  Speaker 3: motives are completely pure as a friend of Charlie Kirk's.
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  Speaker 4: And it's quite something to sort of, you know, directly
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  Speaker 4: or indirectly accuse the widow of a dead man of
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  Speaker 4: trying to have him killed so she could effectively take
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  Speaker 4: control of the business that he built up and the
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  Speaker 4: movement that he built up. Right, and the French government
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  Speaker 4: connection is that not because of her stuff where she's
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  Speaker 4: been alleging to cand Zanes that Bridget mccron is actually
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  Speaker 4: a man, and then she's claimed recently that the French
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  Speaker 4: government's got a hit out on her and that that
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  Speaker 4: is somehow linked to all of this, which seems exceedingly
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  Speaker 4: far fetched. That the French would want to kill Charlie
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  Speaker 4: Kirk because he happened to be friends with candorz OANs,
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  Speaker 4: who's been saying that Bridget mccron is a man.
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  Speaker 1: It's just bizarre and surely at.
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  Speaker 4: Some point you've got to say. And She's what I
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  Speaker 4: found uneatifying about it, beyond that stuff, is that she
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  Speaker 4: keeps coming out with text messages and emails and whatever
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  Speaker 4: that they had shared together.
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  Speaker 1: And that's private communication.
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  Speaker 4: And I would hate to think that, God forbid, after
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  Speaker 4: I die, that the text messages I've sent to some
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  Speaker 4: people start getting paraded around because I thought they were
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  Speaker 4: private communications that I was having with someone. And then
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden that gets plastered in front of
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  Speaker 4: the world. This is what we talked about on this day,
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  Speaker 4: and this is what we joked about here and this
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  Speaker 4: and that and whatever. You just don't do that with
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  Speaker 4: someone who is apparently your friend after they die.
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  Speaker 1: At some point.
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  Speaker 4: You've just got to let a dead person be a
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  Speaker 4: dead person.
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  Speaker 7: And what is so disturbing is the way she has
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  Speaker 7: kind of inserted herself as the kind of bearer of
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  Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk's legacy.
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  Speaker 8: The only person in the world.
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  Speaker 7: Who's fighting for justice, the only one who will actually
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  Speaker 7: discover who killed Charlie Kirk. She's named her audience on
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  Speaker 7: YouTube the Candice Intelligence Agency and encourages all of her
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  Speaker 7: mummy sloops to go out and find clues about who
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  Speaker 7: killed Charlie Kirk. And so she really has monetized his
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  Speaker 7: murder in a very effective way. But I just don't
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  Speaker 7: understand how, with a shred of integrity she can turn
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  Speaker 7: around and say it's because I'm his friend. That is
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  Speaker 7: not how friends treat each other. And if you truly
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  Speaker 7: were his friend, why you know, respecting his wife?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Well, while we're talking about conspiracy theories and lies,
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  Speaker 3: if anyone knows anything about that, it's the Jewish community,
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  Speaker 3: because the number of conspiracy theories and lies that are
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: told about the Jews and Israel continue to astound me.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Remember when the Gaza conflict was in full flight, many
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: people were accusing Israel deliberately causing a starvation crisis within Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: And there was one episode back in May I think
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  Speaker 3: it was where the United Nations started saying that fourteen
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  Speaker 3: thousand babies would die within forty eight hours if Israel
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: didn't allow baby formula and baby food into the Gaza strip.
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  Speaker 2: Well, footage has just been.
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  Speaker 3: Made public of warehouses within Gaza controlled by Hamas full
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  Speaker 3: of tons of baby formula and baby food. This footage
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  Speaker 3: was obtained by a Palestinian activist who's based in the
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  Speaker 3: United States, but he is himself a Ahmed.
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  Speaker 2: A Hatbed who got this footage and.
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  Speaker 3: Documented not just one, but numbers of warehouses where food
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  Speaker 3: was being stockpiled by Hamas. He says quote during the
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  Speaker 3: worst of the days of the hunger crisis in Gaza
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  Speaker 3: in the past six months, Hamas deliberately hid literal tons
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  Speaker 3: of infant formula and nutritional shakes for children by storing
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  Speaker 3: them in clandestine warehouses belonging to the Gaza Ministry of Health.
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  Speaker 3: He says their goal was to worsen the hunger crisis
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  Speaker 3: amongst the Palestinians in order to make Israel look bad
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  Speaker 3: and to back off in their military action. Now, this
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian activist, he's certainly not pro Israel.
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  Speaker 2: He's pro to state solution.
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  Speaker 3: He's very critical of Israel's military action in Gaza, but
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  Speaker 3: he also is critical of the world for not holding
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  Speaker 3: Harmusk to account for their actions to cause starvation amongst
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  Speaker 3: the Palestinian people themselves. This is extraordinary footage, an extraordinary
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  Speaker 3: claim by a Palestinian activist. It's been front page of
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  Speaker 3: the New York Times, it's been front page in the UK.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen too much of it in the Australian media.
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  Speaker 3: I suspect it's one of those big stories that will
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  Speaker 3: disappear very quickly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's interesting to see an intervention from a
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  Speaker 4: Palestinian activist because that's sort of the one thing that's
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  Speaker 4: really been missing from a lot of this discussion is
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: a Palestinian activist who's willing to say, well, Hamasa a
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: bunch of crooks, and I believe in the idea of
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: a state of Palestine, but I don't believe that it
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: should be run by the Palestinian authority or Hamas. And
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: here you have one in Ahmid al Katib. And this footage,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: if it indeed is what we are looking at, is
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: extraordinary because of course this is what was suggested all along,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: that there was food made and whatever that was able
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: to get in and then it would just sort of
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: mysteriously go missing. And that's why to some degree it
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: was controlled, because if you didn't have any level of
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: control and you sort of dropped it in, well all
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: of it may well have gone missing. And it should
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: be no surprise.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is the same mob Harmas that used
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: human shields with their tunnels, etc. And having military bases
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: in hospitals. They knew what they were doing. So an
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: outfit that is willing to do that is of course
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: the same kind of outfit that would be willing to
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: manufacture a hunger crisis in order to get global headlines
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: exactly right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: And the problem is when you're dealing with Hamas, which
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: is driven by radical ideology, they see anyone who dies
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: in Gaza as just a marta for the cause, and
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: not something to be avoided, but dying for the greater good,
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: if you will, which is such a perverted way of thinking,
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: but that is how they think. And when the UN
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: was delivering aid, ninety percent of UNAID trucks were getting
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: looted before they got to their final destination. That is
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: why America, backed by Israel, had to set up the
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: Gaza Humanitarian Foundation to have so they could have secure
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: AID sites, not trucks just driving into Gaza where Her
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Mask could get their.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: Hands on the aid.
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Of course, this instance of the hoarding of formula was
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: actually happening around the time when the Gaza Humanitarian Fund
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: was being set up, and they were doing this because
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: they wanted to spark global outrage so the UN could
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: continue to have a monopoly over the AID and so
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: Her Mask could continue getting their loot.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: It is so perverted.
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: But the way the Western media absolutely fell for these
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: lies and was so blinded by their hatred of the
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Jewish state that they would willingly spread Her Mask propaganda.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: This is something that's going to be studied for years.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: If that footage is proved to be legitimate, and there's
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: been no denial from anybody, it's being reported by major
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: news agencies as legitimate answers of an apology from the
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: UK government or the French government or the Canadian government
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: who slammed Israel over withholding baby formula. And you know
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I mentioned that report where fourteen thousand babies were going
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: to die within forty eight hours. I wonder if there'll
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: be an apology from those governments for demonizing Israel and
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: making the lives of Jews in those countries imperiled because
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: effectively they were calling Israel baby killers.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Unlikely I would have thought, speaking of things that are unlikely.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: The Prime Minister addressing the travel expenses scandal, which I
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: was going to say, what are we into day seven,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: day eight of this thing? It it matters, but at
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: least a week we've been talking about all this stuff
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: because it kicked off with Anika Wells and the fact
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that she had gone off to the UN to talk
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: about the social media ban ninety four thousand dollars for
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: her and a few of her staff to go over
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: for that event. And speaking of the social media ban,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: of course that came in this week and this scandal
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: with travel expenses has grown and grown and grown, grew
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: out to Anika wells and all the money she had
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: spent taking her husband to sporting events with these family
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: repatriation flights. Then you've got Don Fowrell who's spent one
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars on these repatriation flats taking people family
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: members to the opera in Sydney and dinners at Ularoo.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: There's dozens of them.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Sarah Hanson Young who has been flying her husband, a lobbyist,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: between Adelaide and Canberra. Of course he is a lobbyist
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: who works in Canberra. Is this family repatriation well? The
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Prime Minister asked about all of this because it is
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: a big story, says, there's another story on his mind.
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: What I'm focused on today today is an issue which
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: is a revolution. This issue is you will talk about
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: for a lot longer than you talk about the issues
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: which you are raising, which I accept legitimate to be raised.
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: I've answered, I've answered multiple questions on it today. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: am focused. I am focused. What I have said very
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: clearly is what I am focused on. When you look
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: back and you look at what are the five biggest
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: things that we did, I'll tell you what this will
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: be one of them.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And that's what makes me proud, thanks very much.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: We're talking about a revolution or I mean, come on, mate,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: you can't just get away.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry this traveler who gives a toss about this
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: travel business because you know, the social media man, it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: the most consequential thing we've ever done.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Can I point out something for a second, remember the
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: voice to Parliament A modest request, yes, but a social
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: media band for kids.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Revolutionary, right, and it means that we don't have to
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: talk about dodgy things that politicians said.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Oh look I've done something good. Apparently.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Well, while we're talking about the the social media band,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: here is the Prime Minister face to face with a
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: kid telling him just how this is going to go.
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: It's a bad idea because we're going to find ultimates anyways. Yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: well that'll get found out.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Too, little giddy, it's gonna get found out.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: That was that was like the most awkward interaction.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, Albow does have a few awkward interactions, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: that was like he was like, what what do I do?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: What do I do?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, the kids just since.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Imagined what the rest of the country is thinking.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: The confidence of that kid just to say to the PM.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your law is not going to work, buddy.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: No, it's brilliant.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: But I mean, I think you've got to think Alman Easy.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: He's played it well, not sacking Anaka Wells this week
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: and holding off because of course, if he relented to
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: the media p to do something well, then that would
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: actually become the story and he'd give the media a
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: free win. But you have to think she's going to
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: be quietly reshuffled at some point, or maybe she might resign.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: Next week, jileie.
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: But I think at this point Almineasy thinks he has
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: such a large majority he actually just doesn't care.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Do you think that he is upset that the revolutionary
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: social media band has been upstaged by the travel fiasco?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Or is he thinking, God, he's got the social media
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: band at the time that the travel fiasco has been
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: made public, because otherwise he would have nothing to hide begins.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: It's probably an element of both.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's why Aniko Weell's referred herself this week
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: the day before the band came into effect, because then
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: she could say, you know, it's been referred, this will
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: now be dealt with. Let's talk about the matter at hand,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: which is the social media band. They had to sort
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: of court.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: He eyed ale before the courts. It would be a
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: comment sisely taken.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: But also I think there isn't an element of he's
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: glad to have the cover. But if the social media
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: ban hadn't happened this week, I don't think it would
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: have changed the way he dealt with this.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: He would have.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Found something else to talk about. He probably wouldn't have
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: gotten rid of Anika.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Wells because he doesn't have to.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's conventional wisdom that you if
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: you have a cancer, you cauterize it. But he doesn't
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: have to because he has so many people.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: So what the hell? This scandal is going to continue.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: When we get to the papers later we probably won't
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: talk about it. But on the Australian's front page tomorrow
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: they're reporting the next stage of this whole saga, and
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: that is they're found thirty seven percent of about a
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: million dollars spent by Labor MPs on family reunion expenses
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two was not spent on children or
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: partners with children.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So it will continue for days.
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: Yet it's clear that this system is being roughted.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: The fact that Albanezi has ruled out changing it or
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: an inquiry into changing it is just ridiculous. But I
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: fear so many people are on the gravy train that
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: no one really wants it to stop. But let's go
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: over to the UK now, where there have been some
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: shocking developments in UK politics. We know reform is already
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: leading in the polls, but they just might have another surge.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: You'll remember we discussed the other night Buddy Blue, who
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: got arrested in Bali for producing pornography and breaking their
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: morality laws.
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: Well, in a very strange turn of events.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: She's now written an opinion piece for The Spectator in
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: the UK where she's actually come out and endorsed Nigel Parage.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: She said, I stand with Nigel Parage. There are too
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: many people here. We are too accommodating and it's causing problems.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: She sided with Nigel Farage, particularly over the immigration issues,
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: but also endorsed other right wing policies cutting welfare spending,
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: things like that. I don't endorse Bonny Blue, but I
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: do endorse this message.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: You can't Barragh the Farage.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I mean he's got everyone now, from the pornographers right
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: through to the working class.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I think this is magnificent.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: And you know, again, whatever you think of Bonnie Blue,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: you can't deny that she has a huge profile. She's
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: a big media personality now and people have their eyes
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: on what she is doing, and a lot of people
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: are paying a team. That's right, and she garners a
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: lot of attention, even if it's just peripherally. I mean,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: you know, obviously she has a clientele who sign up
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: to her subscription service where you get to see her
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: do all manner of things, but also a lot of
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: people are just following what she does peripheral, and so
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: to have someone like her, whatever you think of her
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: morally saying she backs Nigel Farage, it gets headlines, it
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: gets we're talking about it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I think this is a boon for now.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I have less of an issue with Farage accepting her endorsement,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and a spokesperson for Reform said, we're fighting for every vote.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: In relation to what do you think about Bonnie Blue
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: saying people should vote Reform? My big issue is why
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: is the Spectator magazine employing Bonnie Blue to write columns
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: for them? It's a Christmas column about how she typically
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: spends Christmas.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I had to laugh. She wrote last Christmas was a
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: bit of a shock.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I was due to be in Australia but was banned
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: for my sexual stunts. My family was glad because it
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: meant they got me for Christmas.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: That was the family.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: She got banned from Australia because she's doing pornography.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Good, we get it for Christmas. That was their thought,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: give me a break.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know the family would have been a
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: bit rooted otherwise, wouldn't they. But I mean, you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I just think the momentum that is getting behind Forage,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: and when you've got a cultural phenomenon as she is,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: like Bonnie Blue, Indoorsmal, what.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Does that say for the content?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well but it does. I'm sorry, but it really
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter this point. It doesn't matter at this point.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: If you've got names like that getting behind Forage, it
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: just shows how unstoppable he is, and it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: Does show how far well. I think it shows two things. One,
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: Bonnie Blue knows her audience. She knows her audience is
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: probably ninety nine percent men, and she knows that most
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: men in the UK support reform and support Farage, so
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: she's very smart from that perspective. But it also does
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: show to your point, Caleb, the cultural vibe shift that
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: has happened. To have someone who you know, I don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: support what she does, but who does command a substantial presence,
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: coming out openly, not even during election time, and saying
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: she supports reform.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: It raised that interesting question, right, because the left have
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: sort of left her alone, right because they don't want
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: to touch tut her morality.
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: All they like sex workers, right.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: So will the left now start to attack her because
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: she's a reform supporter.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Well maybe, And of course the last time a porn
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: star got involved in politics it was Stormy Daniels and
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: that was a whole saga, wasn't it. But in the
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: UK Conservatives have generally produced far better sex scandals than
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: the Labor Party has, so you know, maybe it's all
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: just part of how the Conservative movement works over there.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: They have more fun, they get a bit crazier, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: well now you've got Bonnie Blue and tossing Nigel Farage.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: All right, well, let's stay in the UK, but be
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: a little more serious about the politics there. Justice Secretary
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: David not as fun, but more serious. David Lammy, the
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Justice Secretary, we're talking last week about his plan to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: get rid of most jury trials in order to remove
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: the backlog of people waiting for their cases.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: To be heard.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Well, now he's come up with another suggestion, equally as
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: daft in my view, he wants to start wiping the
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: criminal records of thousands of people, particularly as it pertains
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: to childhood convictions. For all but serious crimes committed as
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: young people. He would have those records expunged because he's
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: concerned that people are unable to find jobs or are
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: being unfairly penalized when looking for work because they've got
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: a criminal history dating back to their childhood. Now the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Opposition up in arms about this because they're saying, well,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: you're going to expunge criminal records for childhood crimes except
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: for serious ones. Will define serious and as yet he's.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Not done that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: But curiously, this is what got my attention, right David
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Lammy in promoting this idea, we want to get rid
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: of childhood criminal records. He then said this twenty two
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: thousand Black Asian and ethnic minority children had their names
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: added to the police national database, which I thought was
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: a very strange thing to say in the context of
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: wanting to wipe people's childhood criminal records. Now I'm not
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: going to guess what was in his mind, but a
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: lot of people are very suspicious about this move. I
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: think if people have got a criminal record as a child,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: judges typically take into account when they're sentencing that to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: give a conviction which will go on their record will
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: be part of the punishment, So judges typically don't do
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: that lightly. To go and scrub them all would, I think,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: undermine the justice system.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Justice has been done and then they're going to undo
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it by expunging the record.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Correct, You're going back to some zero. So what was
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: the point of a conviction in the first place. I mean,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: if you're going to expunge convictions from people's records, then
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: you may as well not convict anyone of anything and say, well,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: what's the use of a criminal record anyway? I mean,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: it is kind of relevant information if you're going for.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: A job or applying for a birth children's check.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: If you've committed arson, or if you've committed assault in
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: the course of resisting arrest, you are legally bound to
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: tell a prospective employer, no matter how old you were
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: when it happened.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: So there are certain.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Crimes you've got to report but I would have thought,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: you know, those things are part of your life.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Like countries at the US, which take criminal convictions very
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: seriously for people they lead into the country.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, does it matter when they're doing an.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Assessment whether you were fifteen or twenty one when you
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: committed a crime.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: Look some of the examples that they cited that are
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: still convictions on people's records, with things like riding a
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: bicycle without permission. There are some trivial things that now
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: we would look back and go, Okay, maybe in the
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: nineteen fifties that was enough to get a child in
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: serious trouble, but now it's probably not. But I don't
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: think the answer is this sort of left wing, woke
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: mentality of let's just scrap all convictions. Let's assume all
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: people of ethnic minority background are victims. That's why they
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: have these records, not because they actually made choices to
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: commit time. The answer is just for employers to use
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: a little bit of common sense and critical thinking and go,
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: let's have a look at what's on your criminal record. Oh, okay,
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: you stole ten dollars worth of candy when you were thirteen.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: You're forty five. Now, a dad have turned your life around.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: Probably not going to affect our hiring decision.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I've got to point out the great irony here from
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the British Labor Party is aren't they hounding Nigel Farage
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: over things he's alleged to have said as a thirteen
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: year old? I know, and they're trying to make that
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: relevant as to his suitability to be Prime Minister at
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: the same time that they're trying to expunge people's childhood
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: criminal records because it might affect their job prospects.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Stay tuned next week to find out what Bonnie Blue
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: has to say about that very quickly before we go.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Also in the UK, they're part of the European Convention
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: on Human Rights and you might remember the European Court
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: of Human Rights a couple of years ago said that
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: they couldn't deport illegal margarets to Rwanda. Well, now you've
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: got more than half of European in countries that they're
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: saying they need to reform this Convention on Human Rights
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: so it's easier to deport illegal margrants and foreign criminals.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Just pull out.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, for urj has already said this, Just pull
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: out of the Convention. Why bother reforming something that is
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: clearly broken.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, Well we're going to go to a break.
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  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: including an incredible story about two men traveling with half
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: a ton of illegal cigarettes, but they escaped prosecution because
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: a court ruled the police who pulled them over were
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: motivated by racism.
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  Speaker 2: That's coming up in a moment.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's look at tomorrow's headlines so you hear them
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  Speaker 3: all here. First, we'll start with the Daily Telegraph, which
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: has got a couple of great stories on the front page.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: The image there is quite incredible. New face of crime
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: reads the headline, chilling silicon face marks designed to beat
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: facial recognition technology have been uncovered by police and a
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  Speaker 3: storage facility akin to a gangster's supermarket, which also included
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: flash grenades, guns, ammunition and uniforms. That's quite the fine
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  Speaker 3: and not a bad face mask either.
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  Speaker 2: Color.
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  Speaker 1: It looks a bit like JD. Vans.
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  Speaker 4: I think that that might be who it's modeled on.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you've seen JD. Vance come in and
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: rob your shop recently, maybe you should go knocking on
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: these people's doors. But I mean quite scary to think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean looks pretty real.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Like if people are getting around wearing these things and
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: they're like somewhat undetectable, I want to see someone wear it,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: like I want to get my hands on one and
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: try it on and see what it's like, because that
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: is like scary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's almost what they use when they
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: do prosthetics on film sets.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: You can glue this silicon stuff onto your face and
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: someone can go and become very in disguised. And for
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: all our facial recognition cameras that are monitoring everyone everywhere,
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: it's a good way to get around them.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: We've all seen misdoubtfire right. I mean that's what the
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: whole thing was based on, and that was in the nine.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I'd love to know who's accessing this gangster supermarket when
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: they've got masks like that and stun grenades and Ammo, etc.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go, good find by the police. Well done.
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  Speaker 4: I'll see you down there, ladder Joan.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: The other interesting story on the front page SIGGI bust
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  Speaker 3: was racist.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Reads the headline.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Let me read the story and then I'll try and
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: explain what happened here. Two Asian men in a vehicle
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  Speaker 3: with more than a ton of illegal cigarettes have escaped
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: prosecution after a court found police who pulled over their
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: associates traveling in convoy were motivated by racism. Now there's
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: two gentlemen there. I won't trump pronounce their names. They
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: were charged with possessing more than five hundred kilograms of tobacco,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: but a judge ordered there'd be no further action. So
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: there was a Mercedes is it a G wagon, yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: traveling along and there was an Asian guy sitting in
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: the back seat.
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  Speaker 2: And the female.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Police officer told the court that that got her attention
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: because quote unquote, the Asian guy sitting in the back
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: of this very expensive vehicle looked like a high roller. Well,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: the judge took exception to that and said that was
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: a reprehensible description.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: In fact, the judge said.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: If Gina Reinhard had this what she said, if Gina
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Reinhard had been sitting in the back of that vehicle,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: would you have pulled the person over and called them
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: a high roller? And so they pulled this g wagon over.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Nothing to see there except they found some higher vehicle
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: dockets in the car and then radioed on and found
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: this truck that was associated with the dockets traveling in convoy.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: That's where the cigarettes were found. But the judge ruled
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: because they pulled the G wagon over based on racial profiling,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: therefore no further actions could be taken.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Is the only racial element that Asians are known for gambling,
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: and that's therefore why you might have thought it a
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: person was a.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: High roller because the G Wagon. I've had his G wagon.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: He's a well known drug dealer's vehicle and it's a
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: well known criminals vehicle. I mean, you know, the punisher,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Sam Abdul Rahim is now dead. They put a hit
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: out on him and killed him down in Melbourne, but
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: well known gangster in Melbourne a few years ago, when
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: he was leaving a gang funeral in his G wagon
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: he got shot three or four times in the chest
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: and drove himself in the G wagon from the side
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: of the shooting to the cop shop where they send
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: him off to the hospital. I mean, it's not like
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: we don't have cases on the public record of criminals
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: getting around in these cars. And then the coppers go, well,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: he looks a bit dodgy. He's in a G wagon.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: We might pull him over. What's you got to do
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: with being Asian.
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  Speaker 2: Your instincts were good, exactly right.
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: How does a policeman's bias negate the fact that they
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: have committed a crime. I don't care under what circumstances
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: they were pulled over racist or not. I mean, in
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: this instance clearly wasn't racist. But even if it was racist,
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: who cares? They've still committed a crime. That doesn't negate
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: what the criminals have done. But let's move over to
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: the Australian tomorrow and stick with that theme of illicit tobacco.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: The headline reads Illicit sales leave an eleven point eight
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: billion dollar hole. Australia is now losing more tax revenue
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: on illegal tobacco than it is collecting, with new government
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: estimates showing Commonwealth coffers missed out on as much as
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: eleven point eight billion dollars through illicit sales in twenty
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: twenty four to twenty twenty five, well in excess of
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: the seven point seven billion received from legal tobacco purchases.
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: The shock figures come as Jim Chalmers is being forced
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: to make quote difficult decisions in next week week's budget update.
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: With a decade of deficits ahead leave any further losses
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: in revenue magnified on the nation's bottom line. That is horrendous.
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: We are losing more money than we are gaining from
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: the tobacco excise. Surely at that point you can can
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: see the excise is not working properly if you're now
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: gaining less from it than you're losing because it's so high.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: But Murray Watt said last hook, there's no connection between
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: the excise and people buying illicit cigarettes. I mean, you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: no wonder this market flourishes.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Just get Asian.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: People to drive your bloody cigarettes around for you.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I just I cannot.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Get over the fact it's gotten this bad and the government.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Still digs their heads into the sand.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: It also said the same report that more than ninety
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: five percent of the vape market is illegal. Remember vapes
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: were banned last year. That's just working so well, isn't it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Well done, Elbow.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: You've done such a good job, Mark Butler, well done.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: On the front of the advertiser. Tomorrow star's son a rapist,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Tom Sylvanney twenty three, a former AFL player manager and
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: the younger son of Carlton champion Steven Sylvanny, can finally
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: be revealed as a rapist because his brother also plays
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: for Saint Kilda currently and an awful case where he
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: not alleged he has raped a friend and pretended to
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: be the boyfriend and went into the room and anyway,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: you can look up the rest of the details if
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you want to read it. But this case had previously
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: been suppressed, or the identity of Tom Sylvanny had previously
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: been suppressed, which was extraordinary, very rarely does a name
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: in a case like this get suppressed. And the only
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: reason anyone could think I knew about it, but because
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: we couldn't talk about it, And the only reason anyone
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: could think of is that it would be damaging to
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: the Sylvanney name. Just amazing that it's taken this long
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: for us to find this out.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: The reason revealed in the article as to why the
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: band was placed it wasn't to avoid damage to the
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Savanni name. They were worried that if his name was
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: made public the publicity would be so great he wouldn't
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: be able to continue with the trial because he would
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: either suicide or have a breakdown.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: So what about George pell I mean, I know the
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: one hundred cases you could think of where that might
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: apply and they don't do grape point extraordinary. Let's also
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: quickly before we go, take a look at the front
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: of the cans post. Now, this is an extraordinary case
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: where if we got the footage, he to take a
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: look at it says mid air tail snag terror. Now
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: this is a chap jumping out of a plane, as
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: you can see there skydiving and his emergency parachute got
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: caught and came out before he jumped, and then when
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: he jumped out, he basically flies into the wing. Now
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: he managed within fifty seconds to cut himself loose and
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: get down to the ground, and when he got down
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: deployed his full parachute, his normal parachute.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: The plane had a lot of struggle.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: From what I understand, James, he got out of it
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: with minor injuries. The pilot did a great job of
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: getting the thing back down to earth.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Extraordinary footage, incredible footage and amazing flying by the pilot
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: and the parachuters who spent it would have been all
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: of a minute dangling from the tail of the plane
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: while trying to cut himself free. Both of them did
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: a great job to save not only the plane in
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: their own lives, but those who were on board just
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: quickly yep, welcome back to the program. Well, if you've
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: ever tried to sell a house, you'll have a real
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: estate story. And someone's got an extraordinary story in Broken Hill.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Caleb, Oh, look at it, and it may well be working.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Clifford Wren, who works at a ray White rural in
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Broken Hill, has a property that well it's a little
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: bit dilapidated at ninety four Wolfram Street, and so he
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: decided to be perfectly you've got it there. He decided
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: he'd be perfectly honest in his listing. He said you'll
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: need more than your toolbox, probably a match stick, and
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: also reference to not too lovely external bathroom. Said okay,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: I will write something positive, great Central local. It goes
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: to auction on December nineteen with a price guard of
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: sixty five thousand dollars. If you'd like to get your
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: house your hands on it. Sorry, but he's being honest.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: The place probably should go up in flames. That is
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: the best thing for Apparently some locals are upset and saying, oh,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: how dare he advertise.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: It like that?
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: But you know what, we have truth in advertising laws,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: and he's simply trying to adhere to them. And you
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: know what, Jeremy Clarkson did it anyway, when he bought
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: a property he didn't want to keep. Short ceremony, say
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: a few words. That is genuinely the house he bought
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: in the Cotswolds, and they blew it up for top
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: gey because he wanted to build something else on top
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: But you know he's being honest, burned it down.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Incredible. All right, Let's go to China.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Typically, when you go to a safari park, you take
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: the kids and you're expecting a good show featuring cute animals. Well,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: have a look at what happened at this safari park.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: When in the middle of a bear show, keep your
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: eye on the bear in the background. The bear starts
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: to attack the handler and for a full sixty seconds
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: to two minutes, the bear and the handler are wrestling.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: His colleagues are using even a basketball backboard. Then some
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: other guy comes up with an eagle on his arm
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: trying to get the bear off of his comrade. Fortunately
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: the guy was not injured. But not what you're expecting
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: when you go to a safari park.
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: No, that's quite quite graphic and probably pretty disturbing for
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: the kiddos.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: There not what you're expecting when you're the bear handler.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Right, but maybe just leave the beers alone.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: It's not an animal.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I want to get entangled with.
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: You exactly right. Well, you've probably heard the meme six seven.
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: All the kids are into it and it's really cringe,
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: but a US fast food joint, In and Out has
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: been forced to remove sixty seven from its ordering system
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: entirely because every time they would call out six seven
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: sixty seven, all the kids would go nuts.
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: Have a look all this.
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: And this was happening around the country and thousands of
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: people going to in and Out just to be that
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: lucky six.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: That's the worst teenagers are doing. I reckon they're doing. Okay,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: did you.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: See Key Starma do it the other day?
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Six seven?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, for goodness, say, well.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: That's it from us. Stick around? Coming up? Is the
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: reader pen the show? Good night?
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah m