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Capítulo 066: Femme Tech, Part 2 · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: O look us. So this is a great question. The
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Speaker 1: question is how do you balance your multiple projects and
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Speaker 1: also make time for your home, girls, for your friends.
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Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's a great question. That's a
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Speaker 1: really tough one. Um, you go first, you start. You
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Speaker 1: always do this to me, how are you balancing love, friendship, life,
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Speaker 1: podcast job? You know, there's definitely friends that I don't see,
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Speaker 1: not for lack of wanting to see them, but because
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Speaker 1: I am so busy. Um. So I think one way
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Speaker 1: that I try to show that I'm like I'm still here,
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Speaker 1: Like it's you know, not that I don't want to
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Speaker 1: see you, it's just like by sending them texts like
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Speaker 1: when i'm thinking about them or calling them, um and
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Speaker 1: just reminding them, you know, like how are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't ever wanted to feel like,
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Speaker 1: oh I'm hitting you up because I'm inviting you to
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Speaker 1: something that I'm doing or um, I'm venting about something
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Speaker 1: like No, I like definitely don't want to be that
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Speaker 1: kind of friends. So I really do just send texts
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Speaker 1: when I'm thinking about them, like, hey, I was thinking
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Speaker 1: about you, or I've had like times where I haven't
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Speaker 1: talked to some a friend of mine in a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks or maybe even even a couple of months,
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Speaker 1: and then they'll come to me in dreams and I'm like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: so I need to text them because either they need
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Speaker 1: to tell me something they're going through something, but um,
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Speaker 1: I need to reach out. So then I reach out
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Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, yeah, actually this is happening.
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Speaker 1: So definitely, like I'm very I don't know, I think
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Speaker 1: I'm very. I try to be very active in my
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Speaker 1: friends lives. Can't always be, but you know, the text
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Speaker 1: and the call really goes a long way. At least
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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the text is a huge deal, Like
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Speaker 1: to be able to text someone, especially friends, Like I
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Speaker 1: have a lot of friends who live out of state,
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Speaker 1: who are in New York and in Boston and just
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Speaker 1: different time zones, and it can be hard to keep
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Speaker 1: up with friends when your day is like you're at
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Speaker 1: a different place in your day than they are, right,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense every single day. Um, But so the
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Speaker 1: texting and social media goes a long way. Like I
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Speaker 1: really make use of social media to stay in contact
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Speaker 1: with my friends. For me, that's the best way that
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Speaker 1: I've been able to do that because someone can be
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Speaker 1: in London or fucking Armenia and like I can still
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Speaker 1: reach out and say, hey, you know if we even
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Speaker 1: if we can't see each other in person. Um, it's
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Speaker 1: really hard for me to balance all these different things
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Speaker 1: that we're doing and then making time for friends because
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Speaker 1: I need a loane time. I need a loane time.
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Speaker 1: And if it comes down to it, like I unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: well not unfortunately, I will cancel, like I cancel if
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Speaker 1: I just need to be at home, you know. So still,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think ongoing as this gets as look
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Speaker 1: I thought I gets bigger, and we like we like
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Speaker 1: rarely have a day where we're not working all day
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Speaker 1: and also working at night on the podcast somehow. So
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Speaker 1: it's just so many hours out of the week and
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Speaker 1: we love it, Like I love it. I'm having a
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Speaker 1: great time. But I have not been able to figure
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Speaker 1: out balance yet because it's the workload is in increasing,
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Speaker 1: it's increasing. Yeah, and it's like you're not really on
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Speaker 1: a set schedule because every week looks different. It's wild,
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Speaker 1: it's wild ship and you know, this past week, um,
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Speaker 1: it was a little slower for us, like we were
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Speaker 1: in between, like we had a really busy week the
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Speaker 1: last week, and then next week will be really busy,
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Speaker 1: and then even the week after that. So this week
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Speaker 1: was really slow and I didn't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: Almost like the week dragged because I wasn't like back
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Speaker 1: to back to back. So I had to give remind
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Speaker 1: myself and give myself perspective, like, Okay, well this week
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Speaker 1: is kind of slow, So this is your week to
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Speaker 1: go to the gym, to cook, to clean, to be home,
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Speaker 1: as opposed to like all over l a take care.
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Speaker 1: It's time to take care of ourselves exactly and relax
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Speaker 1: and catch up on sleep, right, which is hard to do.
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Speaker 1: It's hard, and I see you know what you know,
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Speaker 1: I self sabotaged myself for all like stay up and
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Speaker 1: I'm like I should be asleep right now, and I'm
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Speaker 1: like still up doing whatever, like wasting time, rob robbing
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Speaker 1: myself of sleep is real. Yeah, sabot is just like
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Speaker 1: keeps me on my toes at all times, and the
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Speaker 1: only one sabotaging me is me because no one else
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Speaker 1: gives a ship And what would that what would what
10:11
Speaker 1: would that even be? In Spanish? Like I like it,
10:15
Speaker 1: you know, so dramatic it is, but it is. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're out here wasting around time. Yes girl, Oh my god.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why this is relevant to this conversation,
10:29
Speaker 1: but it's not. But then even like things like, um,
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Speaker 1: I have to go shaper on the prom, like how
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Speaker 1: am I supposed to hang out with my friends if
10:36
Speaker 1: I'm shopper, because we actually do have like a friend
10:40
Speaker 1: gets together today, like it's Maria's birthday. Happy birthday, Marizza.
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Speaker 1: By the time this is out, you'll have been thirty
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Speaker 1: for a month. We love you, Maria of the Mommy Collective. Yes. Um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: So reach out to your friends, let them, let them
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Speaker 1: know that you're thinking about them. Realistically, your friends that
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Speaker 1: support you know that you're busy, and it's not because
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Speaker 1: you don't want to see them exactly, you know, exactly.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully that helps. Yes, maybe it doesn't, who knows whatever.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that question. Yes, okay, So next question,
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Speaker 1: this is this one is intense one. It's a good one.
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Speaker 1: How do you talk to your family about reproductive justice?
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Speaker 1: I don't you know what. I don't either. And when
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Speaker 1: we say family, what we really mean is like your
11:28
Speaker 1: mom or your grandma maybe right, or I mean even
11:31
Speaker 1: maybe extended family, you know. And I think that this
11:35
Speaker 1: question is so important because I know like a lot
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Speaker 1: already Latin Next, folks, as voters, we don't really have voting.
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Speaker 1: We have the power, but we don't actually show up
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Speaker 1: and vote, like for folks that can vote, and when
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Speaker 1: we do, we tend to be single issue voters. Meaning
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Speaker 1: if like there's a politician or somebody that is pro choice, um,
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Speaker 1: your anti choice because you're Catholic and you're told that
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Speaker 1: you should be anti choice, sin, you won't vote for
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Speaker 1: them even though they have all these other things that
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Speaker 1: will probably benefit you. So then it gets really, really
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Speaker 1: fucking complicated. Absolutely. We were talking about this before we
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Speaker 1: started recording, right and the concept of talking to like
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Speaker 1: the like Michelle shout out Michelle Video video team, Hey girl, Um,
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Speaker 1: we were talking about having this this conversation and similar
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Speaker 1: conversations about abortion or birth control. We'll have you with
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Speaker 1: our mothers, and our mothers can be such wonderful mohaes,
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Speaker 1: but on these particular issues, like I know this is
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Speaker 1: true of my mom, these particular issues are just going
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Speaker 1: to be wound up in the Catholic point of view.
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Speaker 1: And we're not going to come to an agreement. We're
12:52
Speaker 1: not going to be on the same side of things politically,
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Speaker 1: and so I kind of just don't get into it
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Speaker 1: with my mother. Somebody who's walgged by with a saxophone.
13:05
Speaker 1: I mean, we're in mariachi class. Literally just saw someone
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Speaker 1: walk by with this text. It's Boil Heights. Boil Heights
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Speaker 1: is It's a mecca of art and culture. Find all
13:14
Speaker 1: instruments at all times. Okay, so continue, but yeah, So anyways,
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Speaker 1: I just don't broach the subject with her because I
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Speaker 1: don't want to get into it. I already know how
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Speaker 1: she feels. I know how I feel, and I think
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Speaker 1: we are at an understanding there. And you know, like
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Speaker 1: I was saying, I have barely just gotten to a
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Speaker 1: point of like of understanding with my mom about like,
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Speaker 1: don't make me feel guilty about not going to church.
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Speaker 1: I cannot support the pedophiles. I can't do it, like
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Speaker 1: the straight up petals. I just refuse and I have
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Speaker 1: to just be like mom, like if I go to church,
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Speaker 1: it's because of my mom, like to be supportive of her,
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Speaker 1: not for church, you know, And I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: accept the host to like I'm not. I don't do
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Speaker 1: it if I'm there, I'm just a warm body and appeal. Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that's real. You know. My family doesn't really go
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Speaker 1: to church anymore. We like went to I went to
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Speaker 1: Calatholical school. My whole life. Um had the like lack
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Speaker 1: of sex education, like all of that. I had, Like
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Speaker 1: a white woman teacher in the eighth grade show us
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Speaker 1: like this horrible slide show about abortion. But it was
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Speaker 1: just like showing us horrible images of like fetus is fetus.
14:29
Speaker 1: I don't what you know, you know exactly what I mean?
14:31
Speaker 1: Fetus is what is the plural of the fetus? I
14:35
Speaker 1: don't know. Anyway, The point is that she did that
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Speaker 1: and it was all mangled and it was horrible, and
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Speaker 1: it was just a scare tactic as opposed to giving
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Speaker 1: us actual sex education. Um. Why did I bring this up?
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Speaker 1: Because we don't really go to church anymore. We don't
14:50
Speaker 1: go to church anymore. Um, And I don't really know
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Speaker 1: what that's about. Like, if that was a conscious decision
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Speaker 1: my parents made, I don't think it's because like they're
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Speaker 1: not necessarily religious anymore. Maybe it's because they're living in sin.
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Speaker 1: I don't really know who knows, you know, but um,
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Speaker 1: I know that my mom is like pro choice. I
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Speaker 1: would say that my mom as like, you know, my
15:15
Speaker 1: mom is in her sixties so like and she was
15:17
Speaker 1: born to my Hankolf definitely grew up here, so even like,
15:20
Speaker 1: so my mom like tends to like lean towards like
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Speaker 1: white feminism, and I'm like trying to like pull her
15:27
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, what about this and what about that?
15:29
Speaker 1: You know? But she's definitely more liberal, um and like
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Speaker 1: a Democrat, so she's you know, pro choice. So I
15:35
Speaker 1: don't necessarily worry about that with her, but it does
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Speaker 1: make me ask like, well, what if it was me
15:42
Speaker 1: that had an abortion right or what if it was
15:44
Speaker 1: me that you know, did whatever, Like how would you
15:46
Speaker 1: feel about that? And it's not something I necessarily want
15:48
Speaker 1: to venture into to find out, but it does make
15:51
Speaker 1: me think, like, you know, what's what's that about? Because
15:55
Speaker 1: I know when I came out, like my mom was
15:56
Speaker 1: totally fine with everybody else being queer, but when it
16:00
Speaker 1: was me, it was like, oh, well, so here's the difference.
16:05
Speaker 1: So do women have rights or do daughters have right?
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Speaker 1: Daughters have no right, daughters don't have rights. Latina Latina,
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Speaker 1: daughters have no rights. Women might have rights, but do
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Speaker 1: daughters no rights? Hell no, no, because we're supposed to
16:19
Speaker 1: go from parents home to husband's home. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,
16:23
Speaker 1: direct handoff. They literally hands you off when you walk
16:27
Speaker 1: down the aisle, like here you go, I cannot no girl,
16:34
Speaker 1: no girl. But speaking of religion, so it's just so
16:37
Speaker 1: funny that religion class is the sex said. It makes
16:40
Speaker 1: no sense. We've talked about this a lot because we've
16:42
Speaker 1: been talking about firm defense or just sex education in general,
16:46
Speaker 1: like within the past few months at different universities that
16:49
Speaker 1: we've been to, and like this has like come up repeatedly,
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Speaker 1: like recovering caffine, recovering Catholics and there being no type
16:56
Speaker 1: of sex education and any type of sex that is
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Speaker 1: embedded in your religion class as opposed to its own
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Speaker 1: course like health or when you're learning bio. Like it's
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Speaker 1: just wild too, because I am remembering back to this
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Speaker 1: like nun in training, I don't remember what you call him.
17:12
Speaker 1: She's like a nun in training, sister sister, miss Aaron.
17:16
Speaker 1: She was like a white lady, and she told us
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Speaker 1: a story about how she wants shared a blanket with
17:22
Speaker 1: the boy and the greatest regret of her life. She's like,
17:26
Speaker 1: never do it. Never share a blanket with a boy.
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Speaker 1: He'll regret it for the rest of your lives. What
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Speaker 1: happened under the blanket is my question? And I'm sitting
17:37
Speaker 1: there like thinking, like I think I'm a hoe, Like
17:40
Speaker 1: this is not connecting. I'm not connecting with this content, right,
17:43
Speaker 1: I do understand what is the issue? What is the
17:46
Speaker 1: issue sharing a blanket? I don't get it. Really confused.
17:50
Speaker 1: Good times, you know. So that's where we started, and
17:53
Speaker 1: look at where we know. I'm proud of us. I'm
17:56
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Speaker 1: m of it and little ship um All right, and
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Speaker 1: we are back. Scott was Megan B. Stallion? You know,
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Speaker 1: I hope that she gives us a summer anthem. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure she will. She will, I'm sure she's working on
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Speaker 1: one right now as we speak, Yes, already. So we're
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Speaker 1: going to get into the content of today, which is
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Speaker 1: actually fem technology. You know, we wanted to update our
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Speaker 1: FM tech episode that was of season one way back
20:23
Speaker 1: in the day. So we just wanted to you know,
20:26
Speaker 1: talk about some new findings that we have, some new
20:29
Speaker 1: content context, um and all of that, you know, So
20:33
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it. Um. A quote that Mala
20:36
Speaker 1: actually found on Twitter, Um, we want to pull that
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Speaker 1: a long time ago. We want to pull that as
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Speaker 1: kind of a framework for today's conversation. Mala, do you
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Speaker 1: want to say it? Yeah, So as we think about
20:46
Speaker 1: how do we define fem tech and fem technology. So
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Speaker 1: this Twitter, this account is at greta low g r
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Speaker 1: e t t A l o u W and the
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Speaker 1: tweet reads technology is not the antithesis of craft. Tech
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Speaker 1: is just craft with electronic components. So basically your iPhone,
21:08
Speaker 1: your computer, all the tech that we love and a
21:11
Speaker 1: door is basically just arts and crafts with electronic components.
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Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, I mean it is because like
21:17
Speaker 1: if you think about now, like with the with all
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Speaker 1: the added like effects that you can do to your photos,
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Speaker 1: or even just like on the apps, like on Instagram,
21:27
Speaker 1: how you can have the gifts right, like reminiscent of
21:29
Speaker 1: like MySpace, and you can have like all the extra
21:33
Speaker 1: little like things you can put on your photos, like
21:35
Speaker 1: the filters and the little emojis, and you can place
21:38
Speaker 1: them all around your photos. Like that is arts and crafts.
21:41
Speaker 1: You are collaging. It's like scrap booking, but on your phone.
21:44
Speaker 1: It's like their stickers, stickers, They're definitely stickers. So it's
21:48
Speaker 1: all arts and crafts. It's all found technology. Whether we
21:51
Speaker 1: acknowledge it or not, we acknowledge it. We acknowledge it
21:54
Speaker 1: because we're the ones that are women, especially women of color,
21:57
Speaker 1: especially black women, are definitely running social media, you know,
22:02
Speaker 1: like the photos that are taken, the like everything everything
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Speaker 1: that like social media, all of the imagery, the lifestyle
22:10
Speaker 1: content like women of color, the makeup, women of color
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Speaker 1: running that. It's very very true. Like influencer culture. I
22:19
Speaker 1: mean there are big name influencers who get like huge
22:23
Speaker 1: contracts who are white people. I mean you've all probably
22:27
Speaker 1: like seeing the like James Charles drama that's been going on, right,
22:31
Speaker 1: But what I find so interesting is that when we
22:34
Speaker 1: have these talks about like social media and its impact
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Speaker 1: on the youth, and like what it means to our generations,
22:41
Speaker 1: like to have this inundated sort of like relationship with
22:44
Speaker 1: social media. It's always about the negatives of social media
22:47
Speaker 1: and the addiction and the this and that and how
22:50
Speaker 1: we have no social connection. But I rarely hear the
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Speaker 1: like large critiques of social media. I rarely hear like
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Speaker 1: uplift of the women of color who use it to
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Speaker 1: start businesses, social movements launch like writing careers, modeling careers,
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Speaker 1: like airl now modeling for Savage by fenty Like this
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Speaker 1: bitch is on the Savage by fentye. Like she started
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Speaker 1: modeling while she was an undergrad at you see Santa Barbara,
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Speaker 1: Like she just started like posting modeling shots on her
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Speaker 1: own page and now she has like she signed with
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Speaker 1: Natural Beauty. She was like she was now on Savage
23:32
Speaker 1: by Fancy, like all of that ship on Nike. Fore
23:39
Speaker 1: it started on the ground. We started on the ground.
23:42
Speaker 1: We started on the ground. So you know, okay, I'm
23:45
Speaker 1: a teacher, right, And they had me watch this documentary
23:48
Speaker 1: style film called like Right, and it's about like youth
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Speaker 1: and social media. The entire film, which struck me the
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Speaker 1: most is that the films like this, like analyzing social media,
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Speaker 1: everyone on screen is white. Of course, that people who
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Speaker 1: are analyzing, who are commenting, the youth that are talking
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Speaker 1: about their experiences with social media are all little white kids.
24:10
Speaker 1: The professionals, the professors, the sociologists, the writers a journalists
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Speaker 1: are all white people. And it's all how the kids
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Speaker 1: are like so negatively affected and their self esteem and
24:19
Speaker 1: their time. And I'm like, there's so much missing here
24:23
Speaker 1: from this analysis, and you know what, And I think
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Speaker 1: a part of that is because white people don't have
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Speaker 1: to find community through social media and women, queer folks,
24:34
Speaker 1: people of color, like, we very much have our niche
24:37
Speaker 1: communities that live on social media because we're maybe we
24:41
Speaker 1: don't live in like a Los Angeles right where we
24:44
Speaker 1: have like POC events all the time, you know. They
24:47
Speaker 1: we we are like building with people on social media,
24:50
Speaker 1: so that that's definitely like a white person thing because
24:53
Speaker 1: they see see themselves reflected in everything and everything. And
24:57
Speaker 1: then are they necessarily in need need of the creative
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Speaker 1: outlets to start a business or to start their project
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Speaker 1: or launch their career. Families are their seed money. Their
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Speaker 1: family is their seed money. So where we're like trying
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Speaker 1: to be creative and use free platforms to get something
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Speaker 1: off the ground, They're like, oh no, like I had
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Speaker 1: that internship with so and so when I was nineteen,
25:19
Speaker 1: Like I already had the connect I already had the
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Speaker 1: seed money built. What right for what my dad is
25:25
Speaker 1: like the VP of something? Yeah, for example, what a himful?
25:29
Speaker 1: We're not talking about anyone in particular, just you know,
25:33
Speaker 1: we're not. You just never know, you never know anti
25:37
Speaker 1: who um. Yeah. So when it comes to I think
25:41
Speaker 1: this is also why we do what we do, Like,
25:43
Speaker 1: let this archive correct and imbalanced history, because the history
25:48
Speaker 1: about the Internet and about social media will be written.
25:51
Speaker 1: There will be an official formal history, and it will
25:53
Speaker 1: be all about how it was like brainwashing a generation
25:57
Speaker 1: making everyone neurotic, like making everyone self a steam lowered,
26:00
Speaker 1: or or like a generation of like snow flakes and
26:04
Speaker 1: like very like hyper sensitive, hypercritical where not no one
26:08
Speaker 1: can say anything anymore. Like That's that I think will
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Speaker 1: be of definitely a part of history. Yes, But will
26:13
Speaker 1: the history include the acknowledgement of the artists and the
26:17
Speaker 1: creatives and the business women For the most part, the
26:20
Speaker 1: business people who have been women of color, predominantly queer
26:23
Speaker 1: people of color, who have used the Internet for like
26:26
Speaker 1: just just just social upheaval, like of the most positive sort. Right,
26:30
Speaker 1: And if you think about like back in like when
26:32
Speaker 1: you read history about like the sixties, the seventies, you know,
26:36
Speaker 1: the civil rights movements, like everyone, there is always a
26:40
Speaker 1: component of counter culture. And we're like living in the
26:42
Speaker 1: counter counterculture right now, Like we are the counter culture.
26:46
Speaker 1: Like we like when everyone is talking about social media
26:48
Speaker 1: and the negatives, that here is the counterculture telling you
26:51
Speaker 1: this is actually what's happening, and this is actually why
26:54
Speaker 1: it's created something positive, you know, And there will be
26:56
Speaker 1: a history and there will be all these like examples
26:59
Speaker 1: of all the artists that did this, this and that. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So that's I think part of the work that we
27:04
Speaker 1: try to do when we talk about an audio archive,
27:06
Speaker 1: it's archiving this aspect of it too, that this work
27:09
Speaker 1: is being done in a particular space, right, It's it's
27:12
Speaker 1: straddling the in real life community and the digital space,
27:16
Speaker 1: and it's entrepreneurial and it's artistic, and it's social justice
27:20
Speaker 1: and it's creative, like it's all these things and it's
27:23
Speaker 1: really incredible. So like when we think about them technology.
27:27
Speaker 1: We also contextualize the I G. Batty in the same way. Yes,
27:32
Speaker 1: the I G. Batty is a tech startup. It's tech
27:36
Speaker 1: startup like people that talk ship, well know, men that
27:40
Speaker 1: talk shit about the I G. Batty with her cash
27:43
Speaker 1: app and her Venmo and her PayPal and her bio
27:46
Speaker 1: like haters. She's a tech startup start up. So I
27:50
Speaker 1: don't see what the problem is, right, what is the
27:53
Speaker 1: formal definition of a tech startup? Like, where is the
27:56
Speaker 1: formal definition and what does it mean? Because we tend
27:58
Speaker 1: to think that it's all Silicon Valley. It's white guys.
28:03
Speaker 1: It's like quirky, it's business oriented, it's utilizing technology, it's
28:08
Speaker 1: utilizing an app. It's it's something different. Well, the women
28:11
Speaker 1: of color that have like Instagram boutiques, that's a tech startup.
28:14
Speaker 1: That's a tech startup. Shop latin x when Britt and
28:17
Speaker 1: Bree were here, they talked about shop latin X is
28:19
Speaker 1: a tech startup. Yeah, we're a fucking tech startup. We're
28:22
Speaker 1: a tech startup. What makes us not a tech startup
28:25
Speaker 1: that we're not white men. That's what it is. That's
28:29
Speaker 1: exactly what it is, because I mean use of technology hello, Right,
28:32
Speaker 1: we do that check check I mean creative project, check events,
28:37
Speaker 1: product like there's some type of sale, there's some type
28:40
Speaker 1: of revenue going on. Check check, you know what I mean? Like,
28:43
Speaker 1: so where is it? Not happy? It's so what is
28:48
Speaker 1: the truth? What is the truth? What is the true?
28:50
Speaker 1: I G Batties are tech startups? Where the I G
28:54
Speaker 1: Batties were affirming ourselves in the digital space, and we
28:58
Speaker 1: encourage all of are women of color? Are fems are
29:01
Speaker 1: queer people of color who are doing projects online to
29:05
Speaker 1: frame like you're thinking around yourself as a tech startup
29:09
Speaker 1: and go after those tech dollars. Yes, we're going after
29:12
Speaker 1: those tech dollars. We are because why not? You heard
29:15
Speaker 1: it here first season four? Watch give it it's ours. Yes,
29:22
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, I mean. And then and then there's like
29:25
Speaker 1: fem tech also in like the literal sense, like the
29:28
Speaker 1: audio recording, the audio editing, the uploading of it, like
29:33
Speaker 1: the podcast as actual fem technology, right because we're fems
29:37
Speaker 1: doing it and it's technology. It's also you know a
29:40
Speaker 1: part of art, but art is also technology. You know,
29:44
Speaker 1: the craft is the technology. So I think that that's
29:46
Speaker 1: definitely like another added layer to what we're doing. Is
29:50
Speaker 1: the podcasting as fem technology. Yeah absolutely. I think to
29:56
Speaker 1: like the tech startup doesn't have to be like a
30:01
Speaker 1: gentrifying force, Like is that is that a prerequisite? Is
30:05
Speaker 1: that a signifier of a tech startup? You have to
30:08
Speaker 1: be a gentrifier or a hint a fire essentially, you know,
30:12
Speaker 1: like we come and we visit Boil Heights and we
30:15
Speaker 1: participate on a community level, like, but we don't really
30:18
Speaker 1: have like events here. We like shout out Espasio and
30:22
Speaker 1: come through and support local businesses and local families, um
30:26
Speaker 1: having Boil Heights like artists residents can be on the show,
30:31
Speaker 1: you know, like we support events and show up to
30:33
Speaker 1: events that our community lad but we're not like buying
30:37
Speaker 1: a property, you know, we're not necessarily like having events
30:41
Speaker 1: here and profiting renting out here. Yeah, definitely, you know
30:44
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we try and in the local community,
30:47
Speaker 1: like stay in our lane. You know, could we do better? Probably,
30:51
Speaker 1: I mean everyone can do that, can do better, But yeah,
30:55
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that, you know, we can
30:56
Speaker 1: think about tech startups as broad in the Deaf and
31:00
Speaker 1: Asian right brought in the definition, I think it's very
31:03
Speaker 1: narrow right now. Yeah, I mean, and I think that
31:05
Speaker 1: that's what we not only you and I, but just creators,
31:09
Speaker 1: women of color. Creators are continuing to redefine how we
31:12
Speaker 1: look at everything. You know, from hair and makeup being
31:16
Speaker 1: a technology, which is what we've talked about, to the
31:19
Speaker 1: audio being a tech startup, to your marketplace being a
31:23
Speaker 1: tech startup. You know, all of it can be a
31:26
Speaker 1: tech startup because of the world that we're living in
31:28
Speaker 1: right now, because it's and we're continuing to just incorporate technology,
31:33
Speaker 1: like actual technology, I mean, like the phones, the applications,
31:37
Speaker 1: like that is the technology that is now being incorporated
31:39
Speaker 1: into every part of our lives. The website that we
31:42
Speaker 1: have to learn how to use and manipulate, right, yeah,
31:46
Speaker 1: I mean even like reading analytics, reading analytics. But I
31:49
Speaker 1: mean I was even going to use an example, like
31:52
Speaker 1: even doctors and hospitals and clinics they have their own
31:55
Speaker 1: apps now because they like get how important it is
31:57
Speaker 1: for you to be able to like look at your
32:00
Speaker 1: you know, diagnosis on an application, to look at your
32:03
Speaker 1: prescription and all of that on the application. You know,
32:05
Speaker 1: We're only going to continue to see more of that. Yes,
32:09
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many ways that we can identify
32:12
Speaker 1: fem technology in the world. This is kind of now
32:15
Speaker 1: veering off, but not really right now as we record this,
32:19
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of of posts, tweets, threads, there's a
32:25
Speaker 1: lot of online activity around abortion and the abortion bands
32:29
Speaker 1: that are going on, like the attacks on reproductive choice
32:33
Speaker 1: and reproductive rights like across the board, and even considering
32:37
Speaker 1: abortion as being a very ancient fem technology that we
32:42
Speaker 1: need to fight to preserve, like we have a right
32:44
Speaker 1: to this technology. That it was women, it was child like,
32:49
Speaker 1: it was people that he could give birth to children,
32:51
Speaker 1: it was people with uteruses that came up with reproductive
32:56
Speaker 1: resources and technology like abortion our technology absolutely because I mean,
33:05
Speaker 1: you know, we've had like dulas for centuries, right, and
33:09
Speaker 1: it's abortion didn't just like come out of like the
33:11
Speaker 1: sixties or whatever like movement, like the women's rights movement
33:15
Speaker 1: like that definitely not is not where it came from.
33:17
Speaker 1: I mean from what I know, like it started as
33:19
Speaker 1: like a yerba, like the mixture the mixture of like
33:21
Speaker 1: different yervas that you could have a t you know,
33:24
Speaker 1: so definitely ancient fem technology that we're continuing to fight
33:29
Speaker 1: for and like thinking about like La Loba Loca and
33:33
Speaker 1: like Loba talks about like how a lot of like
33:35
Speaker 1: the medicinal practices actually come from brujas, right, And Loba
33:39
Speaker 1: has this really great shirt and it says something along
33:41
Speaker 1: the lines of like brujas are the reason that that
33:44
Speaker 1: we're all alive today, or like budhas are the reason
33:46
Speaker 1: that we're all in existent? Sure sure, sure, sure yeah.
33:49
Speaker 1: I mean there's so much like appropriated knowledge and appropriated
33:54
Speaker 1: technology and information that just has been soaked up into
33:58
Speaker 1: like the medical industrial complaint and everything else. I mean
34:02
Speaker 1: even thinking about I was thinking about this the other day,
34:05
Speaker 1: like the fucking fact that there are so many white
34:08
Speaker 1: people that go hiking and backpacking. Right. You talked about
34:11
Speaker 1: this like all these people in Washington State that when
34:15
Speaker 1: I was backpacking up there, there were so many white
34:17
Speaker 1: men by themselves, backpacking in the middle of nowhere by themselves,
34:22
Speaker 1: and thinking about how like they have their little camp
34:24
Speaker 1: stoves and they're sleeping bags made out of specific material,
34:28
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how did the fund did you all
34:30
Speaker 1: learn how to survive in this territory? Right? Like where
34:32
Speaker 1: did this knowledge and technology come from? Oh? You fucking
34:36
Speaker 1: stole it from Native people? Right? They colonized and murdered them.
34:39
Speaker 1: They colonized and murdered them, then stole all their technology
34:41
Speaker 1: as to how to survive this terrain because it's not
34:44
Speaker 1: where you're from, right, it's wild. It's some wild ship,
34:48
Speaker 1: so right. And then like and it's interesting because we
34:51
Speaker 1: think of like white people as like like the hippies
34:54
Speaker 1: are the ones that like go hiking and the yoga
34:57
Speaker 1: and like all that ship would actually people have called
35:00
Speaker 1: or like it was Columbus from people of color. Yes,
35:03
Speaker 1: yoga as a type of technology, like all of it,
35:05
Speaker 1: all of it, it's ours, well not yoga, but you
35:08
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But yeah, a lot of the
35:10
Speaker 1: practices and rituals that people of color have created have
35:13
Speaker 1: then been appropriated, and then it's almost like us getting
35:18
Speaker 1: back into it like whatever that may be, Like obviously
35:22
Speaker 1: like molasa yoga is not ours, but whether that be
35:24
Speaker 1: some type of like wellness practice, like it's you kind
35:27
Speaker 1: of have to like re teach yourself and relearn it.
35:29
Speaker 1: And then you go and it's like everybody's white, like
35:31
Speaker 1: it's some type of white space that you're walking into,
35:33
Speaker 1: yet it was owned or created by people of color.
35:37
Speaker 1: This also reminds me if any of you have done
35:40
Speaker 1: like nonprofit work, this might be familiar to you. But
35:43
Speaker 1: there's like an organization called the Center for Counsel and
35:48
Speaker 1: they go and they teach council like to different schools
35:51
Speaker 1: and nonprofits and corporations. And what council is is sitting
35:55
Speaker 1: in a circle and having centerpieces and dedicating the conversation
35:59
Speaker 1: to some or something and then using a talking piece
36:03
Speaker 1: to talk about things, which is like a panic indigenous
36:07
Speaker 1: like appropriation of like indigenous council practices and set up.
36:13
Speaker 1: But they're white people who do it, and now it's
36:14
Speaker 1: considered like a hippie dippy white people thing. And I'm
36:17
Speaker 1: there and I'm like, this is some bullshits hell indigenous
36:22
Speaker 1: right now? Like what the fun is going on? Right? Anyways?
36:27
Speaker 1: But yeah, found technology, Like fams, we've been creating technology,
36:31
Speaker 1: and we will continue to be creating technology and just
36:34
Speaker 1: trying to find it in all the places where it's
36:36
Speaker 1: already happening, you know, like we don't have to look
36:39
Speaker 1: that far outside of ourselves now, we really don't, um,
36:43
Speaker 1: I see kind of like also in our notes right
36:45
Speaker 1: thinking about aesthetics, thinking about aesthetics. Okay, so bear with me.
36:49
Speaker 1: So We've talked about selfies, right, selfies as high art,
36:53
Speaker 1: selfies as high art. So when I was in high school,
36:57
Speaker 1: I went to the National Portrait Gallery and watching in
37:00
Speaker 1: d C. So you know, they have like portraits of
37:02
Speaker 1: like George Washington and John F. Kennedy, and that one
37:06
Speaker 1: picture of pocahonis like in the British garb clearly very
37:10
Speaker 1: like not her, just like sucked up. Right, very few
37:15
Speaker 1: portraits of women of color unless it's in a very
37:17
Speaker 1: political context, right, and like really very very few to
37:22
Speaker 1: know self portraits of women of color. Right. So I
37:26
Speaker 1: was looking up recently, like the National Portrait Gallery and
37:29
Speaker 1: what they have going on there, and they have a
37:31
Speaker 1: selfie exhibition. They don't call it them selfies, but it's
37:35
Speaker 1: called Eye to Eye self Portraits from like nineteen hundred
37:38
Speaker 1: to the present. So I'm looking and I'm like, Okay,
37:41
Speaker 1: when I think of self portraits, I think of women
37:43
Speaker 1: of color taking selfies because we just like have totally
37:46
Speaker 1: revolutionized the selfie, the self portrait as in the form
37:51
Speaker 1: of the selfie. And of course, like at the National
37:53
Speaker 1: Portrait Gallery, which is a Smithsonian museum in d C,
37:57
Speaker 1: the selfies, the self portraits from the last century up
38:01
Speaker 1: until now and again like none by women of color,
38:04
Speaker 1: nor no self portraits, no selfies, the erasure. So even
38:10
Speaker 1: from the photos in the exhibit from now, are still
38:15
Speaker 1: just white people, yes, I and a lot of men
38:18
Speaker 1: and I because you can see, you know, what's on
38:20
Speaker 1: display online. You can like look through the portraits and
38:23
Speaker 1: the self portraits, and there are no women of color.
38:25
Speaker 1: There's one selfie included, and it's a white woman who
38:29
Speaker 1: who you know, it's like a self portrait, but it's
38:31
Speaker 1: a selfie. So the selfie is there, but it's represented
38:33
Speaker 1: by white women. And I do not identify white women
38:35
Speaker 1: as being the vanguards of selfie. I really don't. Yeah,
38:39
Speaker 1: just saying, damn, it's upsetting. I'm upset, right, Okay, So
38:45
Speaker 1: we got to take back the selfies, is what I'm hearing.
38:47
Speaker 1: We have to take back the selfie. Keep posting your selfie,
38:49
Speaker 1: keep posting your selfies and whatever the hashtag is, like,
38:52
Speaker 1: you know, women of color selfies, My selfie is high art.
38:56
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know. One of my favorite hashtags
38:59
Speaker 1: um is hashteg fums of Color Visibility, which was created
39:03
Speaker 1: by the l A FMS of Color Collective and last
39:05
Speaker 1: time I checked, which was a few months ago, it
39:07
Speaker 1: had like twenty thousand posts, which I thought was amazing
39:09
Speaker 1: because it's just all these different representations of fem identities.
39:13
Speaker 1: Um So I think that that's definitely like, if you
39:16
Speaker 1: are identify as fem like, that's definitely a hashtag to
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Speaker 1: check out, to use and to like also build and
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Speaker 1: connect with other fems online, fums of color online. Love it.
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Speaker 1: This has been a good conversation. Yes, girl heard a lot. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we did. For us, there was more that we wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk about, but we were running out, were running
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Speaker 1: out of time. You know, next one we will. We
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Speaker 1: will to be continued. There's always more, Yes, there's always
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Speaker 1: more already look at what as well. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: tuning into another radio. We will catch you next time. Bess.