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- Lucas: So, we've covered a lot of Irish battles on this show — Clontarf, Kinsale, the Siege of Derry. But I think there's one that's probably the most famous, or at least the most remembered in certain quarters, and that's the Battle of the Boyne. Luna: The one with King Billy on the white horse? Lucas: Exactly. July 12th, 1690 — or July 1st old style, but the Twelfth is when it's commemorated. It's become the iconic event of Protestant Ulster identity, but the actual battle is often misunderstood. It wasn't really a fight between Irish Catholics and English Protestants — it was part of a European war. Lucas: You had James II, the deposed Catholic king, backed by Louis XIV of France, facing his nephew and son-in-law William of Orange, who was Dutch and the champion of the Protestant League. Both sides had Irish regiments, both sides had French and English troops. It was genuinely multinational. Luna: So it wasn't just a sectarian clash from the start? Lucas: Not at all. The sectarian dimension crystallised later. At the time, it was about who would rule the three kingdoms — England, Scotland, Ireland. James had been overthrown in the Glorious Revolution of 1688, and he was trying to get his throne back with French help. William landed in Ireland to crush that threat. Lucas: The armies met near Drogheda, along the River Boyne. William had about 36,000 men — a mix of Dutch, Danish, English, and Ulster Protestant troops. James had about 25,000, mostly Irish Catholics, but also French regulars under Lauzun. The French advisors actually thought the position was indefensible. Luna: Why did they fight there? Lucas: Because Dublin was only thirty miles away. James needed to block William's advance on the capital. The river was a natural defensive line, but it was fordable in several places. William sent a diversionary force upstream, then crossed the main army at Oldbridge and Drybridge. The fighting was brutal — hand-to-hand in the water. Lucas: The Duke of Schomberg, William's second-in-command, was killed while rallying troops. He was a 75-year-old German Protestant who'd fought all over Europe. William himself was nearly hit by cannon fire early on — a ball grazed his shoulder. That's where the whole 'King Billy on his white horse' story gets blurred. He probably rode a dark horse, but the white horse became an icon. Luna: So who won, decisively? Lucas: William won, but it wasn't a rout. James's army retreated in good order, covered by Patrick Sarsfield's cavalry. James himself fled to France, earning a lot of contempt from his Irish supporters. The real disaster for the Jacobites came later, at Aughrim in 1691, and then the Siege of Limerick. But the Boyne was the decisive psychological blow. Lucas: And the Treaty of Limerick that ended the war was meant to be generous — Catholics were promised freedom of worship and protection of property. But the Protestant Irish parliament refused to ratify those terms, and instead passed the Penal Laws. So the Boyne became a symbol of Protestant ascendancy. Luna: That's a real shift from what the battle actually was to what it became. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the fascinating thing. The Orange Order, founded in 1795, took the Boyne as its central myth. Every Twelfth of July, they march to commemorate William's victory. But for Irish nationalists, the battle is a symbol of defeat and oppression. So the same event means opposite things to different communities. Lucas: If you've been stepping into history with us episode by episode, you know we try to dig past the symbols and find the real story. And we can keep doing that because of listeners who chip in. If you'd like to help us stay ad-free, you can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Even a small contribution makes a difference. Luna: Yeah, it really does. Every bit helps us keep researching these stories. Lucas: Anyway, back to the Boyne. One of the most interesting misconceptions is that the battle was a massive slaughter. In fact, total casualties were about 2,000 dead — significant, but not huge by European standards. And the river crossing itself was over in a few hours. The rest of the day was pursuit and skirmishing. Luna: So the myth is bigger than the reality? Lucas: In some ways, yes. But the myth became the reality for subsequent generations. The Boyne was used to justify Protestant domination for over two hundred years. And it's still a flashpoint. Parades through nationalist areas, like at Drumcree, show how alive that memory remains. Lucas: There's also the irony that William himself wasn't particularly anti-Catholic. He'd formed the League of Augsburg against Louis XIV, which included Catholic powers like Spain and Austria. He just needed to secure his throne. But in Ireland, his victory was painted as a providential deliverance from popery. Luna: So the battle became a religious symbol almost by accident? Lucas: Partly. The real religious conflict came later, with the Penal Laws and the Orange Order. But the Boyne was the founding moment. And it's worth remembering that among William's troops were many Irish Protestants — they fought alongside Dutch and Danes. And among James's troops were English Catholics and Frenchmen. It's not as simple as English vs Irish. Lucas: There's also a fascinating story about a regiment of French Huguenots fighting for William. They were Protestant refugees from France, and they were given land in Ireland after the war — places like Portarlington. So the Boyne directly shaped Irish demographics. Luna: I didn't know that. Were there any notable Irish figures on the Jacobite side? Lucas: Patrick Sarsfield is the most famous. He was a cavalry commander who later led the defense of Limerick. After the Treaty of Limerick, he led the 'Wild Geese' into French service. There's a story that during the battle, he captured William's artillery train in a daring raid. It didn't change the outcome, but it made him a hero. Lucas: The Williamite commander, Godert de Ginkell — usually just called Ginkel — took over after Schomberg's death. He was Dutch and handled the campaign well. He later negotiated the Treaty of Limerick. But the English parliament was furious he'd offered such generous terms, so they refused to honour them. Luna: That must have bred a lot of resentment. Lucas: Enormously. The broken treaty became a rallying cry for Irish nationalists for centuries. And the Penal Laws that followed made Catholics second-class citizens in their own country. So the Boyne isn't just a battle — it's the hinge point where the Protestant Ascendancy really locked in. Lucas: There's a famous poem by Thomas Davis, 'The Battle of the Boyne', that tries to reclaim the battle from an Irish nationalist perspective. He argues that the Irish fought bravely on both sides, and that the real enemy was English tyranny. It's a very different reading from the Orange tradition. Luna: I'd love to hear a line from it. Lucas: Davis wrote: 'And the Irish, though they lost the day, / They won a fame that shall not die.' It's a reminder that history gets told by the winners, but the losers have their own stories too. Lucas: If you want to see the battlefield today, it's well preserved. There's a visitor centre at Oldbridge, with exhibits on the battle and the wider Williamite War. You can walk the fields where the crossing happened. It's a peaceful place now, but you can feel the weight of history. Luna: I'd like to visit that someday. Lucas: Me too. And maybe next episode we can talk about what happened after the Boyne — the Siege of Limerick and the Flight of the Wild Geese. It's a natural sequel. Luna: That sounds perfect.