Latest / The One Oʻahu Podcast with Mayor Rick Blangiardi / Amy Miller of the Hawaii Foodbank on this year's annual report and the City's annual Food Drive
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- 0:15Welcome to the One Oahu podcast.
- 0:16I'm your host, Brandi Higa, and this week we're joined by Amy
- 0:20Miller, president and CEO of the Hawaii Food Bank.
- 0:23Amy, thanks for making some time for us.
- 0:25Thank you so much for having me. I'm really glad to be here.
- 0:28You know, it's really tough because we're on the heels of a major storm.
- 0:31And so after emergencies like the one that we just experienced,
- 0:34what kind of impact does that have on your operations?
- 0:37And do you see,
- 0:38you know, a bump or anything like that in need following these events?
- 0:41So, you know, disaster response and emergency
- 0:45preparedness is a big part of our mission and what we do.
- 0:48One of the things that we really need to think about,
- 0:50when we see events like big storms,
- 0:54one is that, you know, we already are serving,
- 0:57gosh, we're serving as many people right now
- 0:59as we did in the height of the pandemic, or serving more than 160,000
- 1:02people on average each month.
- 1:05So we need to make sure that people that are in, in need
- 1:10and need food assistance during blue skies are still able to get
- 1:13that food assistance even when things shift
- 1:17and we have disasters or emergency response.
- 1:19So it, it is definitely a challenge to make sure that we're
- 1:23still able to get food to the folks that need it on the day to day.
- 1:27But then also, how do we make sure that people that might not have normally needed
- 1:31food assistance but encountered a disaster displaced from their homes?
- 1:36How do we make sure that they get the food they need as well?
- 1:38So it is definitely a challenge.
- 1:41And this year, I know that you mentioned that 160,000 number,
- 1:44but this year's State of Food Insecurity in Hawaii report is out.
- 1:48Can you tell us about this year's analysis?
- 1:51What kind of picture does it paint?
- 1:52You know, I think for us,
- 1:55it it continued to demonstrate that,
- 1:58you know, food insecurity is a really critical issue here in Hawai'i. So
- 2:03this year, we found that 32% of households across the state are food insecure.
- 2:07That's a lot.
- 2:08You know, 1 in 3 households are having a hard time getting access to enough food.
- 2:13And it's the other thing that I think for us,
- 2:16you know, a couple of other things that were especially concerning.
- 2:20One is this, you know, so food insecurity generally is not enough food
- 2:24in the household for everybody to live a healthy, active lifestyle.
- 2:26And it might change over time. Right?
- 2:28There might be and be okay, ten months of the year,
- 2:31but there's a couple months or something happens, right?
- 2:33You, someone got sick, so you maybe you missed some hours at work
- 2:38or you got to pay for your, car registration, right?
- 2:42There are these events that can just make it hard.
- 2:45Maybe just for a short period of time for people to get enough food on the table.
- 2:51And we also see for a lot of folks that it might just be,
- 2:55they might not have to miss meals, but
- 2:57you might need to make some compromises on the kinds of food you're eating.
- 3:00So you might still
- 3:02be getting enough calories for them that might not be healthy.
- 3:05Right?
- 3:06And then we start to see the health impacts of that down the line.
- 3:08Right.
- 3:09So it's kind of one category of like, food insecurity.
- 3:12But we also have this, like very food insecure population
- 3:16where families are not eating, you know, skipping meals,
- 3:20going hungry and not eating sometimes for whole days at a time.
- 3:24And another thing we found this past year, 11% of our households are missing
- 3:30missing meals and going without
- 3:32leaving for whole days on a pretty regular basis.
- 3:35This summer, most months of the year.
- 3:37So you know that.
- 3:38And that's something it's a little bit different
- 3:40from what we might see on the continent, where you know more
- 3:44that percentage of very food insecure folks is, is smaller.
- 3:49So it's it's a pretty significant issue here.
- 3:53And it's a little bit hidden.
- 3:54You know, I think a lot of times people are embarrassed to talk about it, right?
- 3:58Like we're a very food based culture.
- 4:03People bring food, people share food.
- 4:05It's a way we share our histories and our families and our cultures,
- 4:10and show love for each other.
- 4:11So I think it's really hard for folks who are having,
- 4:15you know, having difficulty.
- 4:17And they may they may not want to talk about it, but when you're,
- 4:21when you're talking 1 in 3 people, we all know families that are struggling.
- 4:26Yeah. But you might just not realize it.
- 4:29I like that you mentioned, you know, the it's a little bit of a different situation
- 4:33than maybe someone who's food insecure on the mainland.
- 4:36What kind of factors are driving what we're seeing,
- 4:39especially in this report this year here in Hawai'i.
- 4:41So, you know, I really think it comes down to affordability, right?
- 4:46The cost,
- 4:47cost of living,
- 4:49the price of food has gone up substantially since before the pandemic.
- 4:54More than more than 30%.
- 4:55I think we all see that.
- 4:57We all might feel that when we go to the grocery store.
- 5:00And you get sticker shock, right?
- 5:02Eggs are way more expensive.
- 5:04Everything is more expensive.
- 5:06And so I think it's it is hitting it kind of across the board.
- 5:10But for families who have seen, you know,
- 5:13either income didn't go up by 30%, right.
- 5:16And your rent probably didn't,
- 5:19go down and your electricity bills didn't go down.
- 5:22So, you know, really, people have a certain amount of income
- 5:27every, every month.
- 5:29And as rent gets bigger and the cost of,
- 5:33you know, your gas, all of these other expenses that folks have,
- 5:37the thing that for a lot of people, they end up feeling is the one,
- 5:42the one expense that you can economize on a little bit is food, right?
- 5:46Because you can't pay half your rent, but you can buy less food.
- 5:50So so we start to see as people like, buy less food, buy,
- 5:54less expensive food, which might also be less healthy food.
- 5:57And we also see people,
- 5:59needing to take these just really what we call impossible choices, right.
- 6:02Do I put food on the table?
- 6:04Or if I gas in my car so I can go to work?
- 6:07Another thing that we saw,
- 6:09this year in our in our food insecurity study is that people are making,
- 6:14health compromises too, so they might skip going to the doctor,
- 6:18or they may skip purchasing a prescription medication that they need.
- 6:22But it's that or feed my kids tonight.
- 6:26You know,
- 6:27a lot of people will choose to make sure their families are taken care of,
- 6:30but they're making sacrifices in their own health.
- 6:33What kind of differences did you see compared to last year?
- 6:36I think the biggest change that we saw was amongst families with children.
- 6:41And this is hard. This is really hard.
- 6:43Last year, 29% of our keiki were food insecure.
- 6:47This year, that number is up to 34%.
- 6:50It's still, you know, within the margin of errors,
- 6:53but every every statistics that was looking at families with children went up.
- 6:58So we saw, you know,
- 6:59that increased 34% of children in food insecure in households were food insecure.
- 7:05We also saw a big bump in adults, caregiver.
- 7:09So in households with children, 34% of those children are food insecure,
- 7:1545% of the adults in that household are food insecure.
- 7:20That number also went up last year was 38%.
- 7:23So that means 45%.
- 7:24Almost half of our adult caregivers are going without.
- 7:30And it makes sense, like all of those of us who have kids totally get it right.
- 7:34Parents will,
- 7:36you know, skip a meal.
- 7:39So that to be sure that their kids have enough to eat.
- 7:42But as a result, you know, almost half of our parents not getting enough to eat.
- 7:47I mean, there are long term health impacts and societal impacts from that.
- 7:53Our kids obviously can't do their best in school
- 7:56if they're hungry and our parents can't do their best work if you're hungry.
- 8:00Right.
- 8:00Like, so I really just think that doing this research and really starting
- 8:05to get a better sense of what food insecurity looks like here in Hawai'i,
- 8:09it's just really kind of a call to action for all of us to to say this isn't okay.
- 8:15You know,
- 8:16we live in a place where people really do take care of each other,
- 8:19and we see that over and over.
- 8:21You know, we think about like in times of disaster, in times of crisis,
- 8:25people in Hawai'i really help each other out.
- 8:29And we're lucky at the food bank that we get to be a part of that.
- 8:33But I think a big, oh, you know, Wake-Up call for all of us is, is
- 8:37this is now kind of a chronic situation.
- 8:40It's not driven by a disaster.
- 8:42This is, day to day.
- 8:45Too many people just aren't able to afford enough food.
- 8:49I know another population that people kind of worry about.
- 8:53You know, of course, our children.
- 8:54But what do those numbers look like for seniors?
- 8:57And then especially year to year, how does that look?
- 8:59So, our seniors, you know, as you look at food insecurity
- 9:04kind of across the age, age range, our seniors are actually
- 9:08have the lowest number, lowest percentage of food insecurity.
- 9:12It's still quite high, you know, 20 I can't I think it's 20% of our put our.
- 9:17Why is that secure.
- 9:19It's a you know, we're not totally sure.
- 9:22I think one question that we have,
- 9:26is around, you know, pride or
- 9:27people answering honestly,
- 9:32the way that we that we conduct the surveys online.
- 9:36So maybe some of our kupuna are not, you know, don't have a smartphone
- 9:39or don't have access to the internet.
- 9:42But even so,
- 9:45you know, 1 in 5 is still far too many, right?
- 9:48And lots of our seniors are on,
- 9:52are on fixed income, so it's really difficult to make ends meet.
- 9:56So I think we,
- 9:59we are quite focused on our kupuna and how we best serve,
- 10:04serve our seniors.
- 10:06But it's the actually the age cohort
- 10:09that has the highest levels of food insecurity are young adults.
- 10:13So, young adults aged 18 to 20 and more than half, are food insecure.
- 10:18More than half of our,
- 10:21folks enrolled in higher ed.
- 10:22So that's that's actually a cohort that we haven't thought about quite as much.
- 10:26I think we automatically go to like, hey, we know we got to take care of our
- 10:30of our kupuna.
- 10:31We have to take care of our keiki.
- 10:33But our, our young adults are really struggling.
- 10:36Yeah, that's where things start to kick in, like tuition and car payments and,
- 10:40you know, trying to rent your first place and things like that.
- 10:43Exactly.
- 10:44Jumping back to that 34% number you mentioned for for children,
- 10:48what kind of trends are you seeing in terms of our public schools
- 10:51and if they have the resources to feed every child in need?
- 10:55So, you know, I think we've made some great strides
- 10:59over the last year in terms of moving towards universal free school meals.
- 11:03So that's great.
- 11:05You know, now this year, all children who previously qualified for,
- 11:11reduced price lunch now get free lunch.
- 11:13So that's a big help.
- 11:14And next year, everyone who families
- 11:18who make under 300% of the federal poverty level will now qualify.
- 11:21So this is an idea to really help our Alice households, right?
- 11:25Folks who, aren't technically
- 11:29in the, wouldn't, wouldn't qualify before, but
- 11:32those are the folks that we're actually seeing more and more
- 11:35are really needing help.
- 11:36So as we kind of look at our, our numbers and people that are coming
- 11:42to the food bank for the very first time, most of them are employed.
- 11:46They work.
- 11:47A lot of times they're working not just one job,
- 11:49but two jobs or three jobs. And they have always
- 11:51been able to make ends meet and they just can't do it anymore.
- 11:55So we are really focusing on our, our keiki.
- 11:58We have a number of different programs.
- 12:01We have a school pantry program right now in 59 schools.
- 12:04And these are places
- 12:05where kids can get healthy snack during the day, and then they,
- 12:10either take home like a 3 to 5 pound bag of food for the weekend,
- 12:14or many of our pantries are now what we call choice pantries, where the kids
- 12:19sometimes have parents at the end of the school day,
- 12:21when they come to pick up their kids, they can go
- 12:22and actually just get the foods that they need.
- 12:25So it's nice.
- 12:26It like, gives people a lot of dignity and agency.
- 12:29Are we less waste? Right.
- 12:31Because you're not giving folks foods that they might not eat, right?
- 12:34So that's a really exciting program that we're looking to continue to expand.
- 12:39You know, ideally, we'd like to be in every school
- 12:43where there are kids who need a little bit of support.
- 12:46And then we also have programs that specifically
- 12:49focus on, that kind of out of school time.
- 12:52Right?
- 12:52So summer breaks and, holiday breaks get spring break coming up.
- 12:57You know, these are times that are really difficult for families, right?
- 13:01If you're counting on your kid getting a good breakfast and lunch at school.
- 13:06And for a lot of kids, that might be the,
- 13:09you know, the main square meals that they're getting.
- 13:12Weekends are hard and breaks are hard.
- 13:15So we do,
- 13:18we participate in Kalka for keiki, so we're able to get,
- 13:21you know, food boxes to families.
- 13:23We have we partner to get hot meals to kids who participate
- 13:27in different programs.
- 13:28We're also working on expanding an after school meal program
- 13:32that we also do in partnership with After-School All-Stars.
- 13:35So just as many different ways that we can to find,
- 13:40to make sure kids, you know, have enough to eat, whether that school
- 13:44or on break, as you're mentioning these programs, that's remarkable.
- 13:49But how does the landscape on the federal level affect, our federal
- 13:55food assistance programs and the ones you're talking about here in Hawaii?
- 13:58So you know, the changes that were made over the past year,
- 14:03to some of the federal programs are, are frightening, you know,
- 14:08snap the, what we call food stamps
- 14:11is, is a really important program for 165,000 individuals in Hawaii.
- 14:16Access snap and rely on snap.
- 14:18Really to get to get food.
- 14:21And, you know, the changes last summer
- 14:23were made to,
- 14:26programs like snap to to reduce access.
- 14:30So those are get those are starting to kick in over this next year.
- 14:34So I think we are quite concerned that we'll start to see people who previously,
- 14:40qualified and receive Snap benefits who will no longer qualify.
- 14:43And then I, you know, we'll probably need to turn to food banks
- 14:47or other programs to get support.
- 14:51And, you know, Medicaid,
- 14:52there's also cuts to the Medicaid program that kick in next year.
- 14:56So I think as we are kind of like looking at the landscape for,
- 15:02you know, food insecurity,
- 15:04these, these federal safety nets
- 15:07as they are starting to get cut back.
- 15:09You know, I think people will look
- 15:11to the terrible Food Network and, and food banks to step in.
- 15:15And we also had our direct some direct federal funding cut back this last year.
- 15:20So some of the foods that we are getting from the USDA, big program was canceled.
- 15:26We were really fortunate to get support from the state.
- 15:29State has really stepped in
- 15:30to make sure that people get access to the food that they need.
- 15:34So, you know, I think we are,
- 15:37fortunate that we live in a
- 15:39place where government really does support,
- 15:42sitting county supporting in so many ways as well.
- 15:46You know, through the, the food drive that we have,
- 15:51and, you know, I think it is just really important that we,
- 15:55we all, you know, do what we can to be sure that our neighbors are getting
- 15:59enough food. And this is a challenging time.
- 16:02You know, it is.
- 16:02We're already seeing these levels of food insecurity.
- 16:07You know, I'd say critical levels.
- 16:11And then to see these federal programs kind of getting cut,
- 16:16is, is we're we're really nervous.
- 16:19With that said, this was one of the reasons
- 16:22why would be a good time to catch up with you, because the City
- 16:25and County of Honolulu has launched its annual food at Fund Drive.
- 16:29You can also donate funds, for the Hawai'i Food Bank.
- 16:32How can those listening help out?
- 16:34What would you you know, what's your advice and what's most needed?
- 16:37So, we are so grateful
- 16:40to partner with the city, and county on this.
- 16:43This annual food drive is just really a beautiful way for where we see,
- 16:48you know, those who are already involved in public service are.
- 16:51And so even county employees really stepping up
- 16:53to take care of their neighbors.
- 16:55And this really fundamental way. Right.
- 16:57Making sure someone has enough to eat.
- 16:59So I know there's places that you can donate, food,
- 17:02you know, all kinds of nonperishable food items.
- 17:05We gratefully accepted.
- 17:07We make sure that goes out through our network.
- 17:09We work with about 275 partner agencies and pantries, hunger partners.
- 17:15So these are could be a school, could be a church, could be a nonprofit.
- 17:19But we are, you know, partnering with these incredible organizations
- 17:24on the ground that are getting food into communities.
- 17:25So you really can trust, you know, if you make a donation of food
- 17:28or funds to Hawaii Food Bank, we will get it to those who need it most.
- 17:33So you can donate food.
- 17:34We also, it's food and fund drive.
- 17:37So, we also gratefully accept dollars.
- 17:41And one of the things that we're really proud about a Hawaii
- 17:43food bank, is we can really stretch a dollar.
- 17:46So, we did a little study last year just to kind of understand,
- 17:50you know, how far dollars stretch, because when we're purchasing food,
- 17:55a lot, you know, we're purchasing at the container level, right?
- 17:58So it's obviously like we buy in bulk.
- 18:01We have great relationships with Mattson and Fisher.
- 18:05The able to get, our overseas, shipping covered.
- 18:11And we have relationships with food banks on the continent that also really help.
- 18:16So we're able to access very low cost, but still healthy food
- 18:20coming in both from the continent.
- 18:21And we also work with lots of local farmers so we can buy,
- 18:26produce and poi and different,
- 18:29you know, important food items directly from our local farmers as well.
- 18:34So we did this little study just to understand how far our dollar stretch.
- 18:38And we found that on average, our our dollar stretch is about five times
- 18:41as far as any of us could do, like going to the grocery store.
- 18:44So I know sometimes people feel a little bit like,
- 18:48you know, guilty about, you know, it's feels better to donate food.
- 18:52You go to the grocery store
- 18:53and you buy food and you donate it to the food bank.
- 18:55But, I would encourage people to not feel guilty about that
- 18:58because it's actually a very, very efficient way to make a gift.
- 19:02So you can give $10 and instead of $10 worth of food,
- 19:06we can actually turn that into $50 worth of food when we purchase it.
- 19:10And the other thing that it allows us to do
- 19:11is it allows us to buy food that people are really looking for.
- 19:13That's harder to donate, like produce.
- 19:16In fact,
- 19:18I think one of the things that whenever I talk to people
- 19:20about the work that we do, the food bank maybe surprises a lot of folks is,
- 19:25it produces is actually
- 19:28about a third of all the food we distribute right now is fresh produce.
- 19:32Like last year, we distributed more than 7 million pounds of fresh produce,
- 19:37some of that sourced right here on Oahu in partnership
- 19:39with our farmers, some of it coming from partnerships on the continent.
- 19:43But, this is, again, one of those things that we're really finding the families
- 19:48that we're serving, they're looking for because especially if you're, you know,
- 19:52times are tight, produce tends to be one of the first things
- 19:55that falls off of people's grocery list, right?
- 19:57Because it's expensive and it doesn't last.
- 20:00So if you're really, you know, trying to economize, people will,
- 20:04you know, stop buying that fresh produce.
- 20:05But of course, it's so important from a health perspective.
- 20:10So just know,
- 20:11you know, if you're donating dollars to Hawai'i Food Bank,
- 20:14we can really stretch a dollar
- 20:15and we can make sure people are getting access to foods like fresh produce that,
- 20:20we will accept.
- 20:21You know, if you have, say, fruits from your backyard
- 20:24and you want to donate them, you can bring them down.
- 20:26We gratefully accept those.
- 20:27But it is a little bit harder to donate something like fresh produce.
- 20:31Yeah.
- 20:32You know, and you know, all these numbers that you mentioned,
- 20:35it kind of just shows how tough times are right now.
- 20:38But for those maybe who can't contribute through food or monetary donations,
- 20:43what are some ways they can volunteer their time and energy to buy food?
- 20:46They you know, we rely on volunteers.
- 20:49So heavily we can never do what we do without this
- 20:52just really incredible network of volunteers.
- 20:54And it's a really important way to give back, you know, if you can,
- 20:58if you can spare the time, go to our website.
- 21:01We have ways to sign up as volunteers.
- 21:03We have volunteers almost every single day.
- 21:06We have different volunteer opportunities.
- 21:07You can come down to the warehouse and help us sort or pack food.
- 21:11And we also part again, we have this incredible network of partner agencies.
- 21:15So we can also connect volunteers, maybe with a distribution right
- 21:18in your own neighborhood so you can help your neighbors that way too.
- 21:23Who's
- 21:23eligible to receive resources from the Hawaii Food Bank?
- 21:26You know, we don't turn anyone away, so anyone that needs help
- 21:30will get help with from Hawaii Food Bank, no questions asked.
- 21:33And any of our partners who really want to be sure, we know.
- 21:37In fact, for a lot of folks, it's
- 21:39that especially asking that first time for help can be really hard.
- 21:43You know, we are,
- 21:46you know, people are proud,
- 21:48and it can be really difficult to ask for help, but we feel really strongly
- 21:52that everybody deserves access to safe and healthy food.
- 21:55It does not matter.
- 21:56Doesn't matter what kind of car you drive.
- 21:58None of that matters.
- 21:59What matters is that you know your neighbor and we're going to be there for you.
- 22:04So yeah, anyone that needs help will get it, no questions asked.
- 22:07We do have some programs, specially federally funded programs,
- 22:11that do have income eligibility guidelines.
- 22:15So if you qualify for those, you can get your food from those programs.
- 22:18But if you don't qualify or you don't want to talk about it, that's okay too.
- 22:21We'll make sure you get access to food that you need.
- 22:24Yeah.
- 22:24Your job, it kind of has this heartbreaking side
- 22:26where you talk about these numbers that have gone up,
- 22:28you know, the 29% to 34% for keiki, 38% to 45% for caretakers.
- 22:33But then you also have this kind of heart filling aspect of it.
- 22:36Like you said, the volunteers that make this organization tick.
- 22:39So as a member of this community, as a mom,
- 22:43how difficult is this work for you personally?
- 22:46I would say it's
- 22:48it can be really hard, right?
- 22:50And like because I feel like I have been so lucky in my life,
- 22:55and I've never had to make hard choices about, can I feed my kids?
- 23:00And when you and I get to be,
- 23:04out on distributions and you get to talk to some of the folks
- 23:08who are just working so hard, right, to try to make sure they can put
- 23:12food on the table for their families.
- 23:13And a lot of times,
- 23:14by the time they come to the food bank, they are in a bad place.
- 23:18You know, it's hard.
- 23:20That's really difficult, I have to say.
- 23:22Like, I, if I spend too much time thinking about it, it really
- 23:27it I, you know, I might just start crying and then I
- 23:31can't continue this conversation. So it is.
- 23:34I think it can be. It is hard.
- 23:36But on the other hand, how lucky am I to get to be in a place
- 23:42where I get to be a part of a solution, right?
- 23:46And I can't tell you.
- 23:47Just like it is such a beautiful thing
- 23:49to see, all of the folks who want to help, right.
- 23:53So, you know, I think about the federal government
- 23:55shutdown this past fall, all of a sudden, we had, you know, thousands
- 24:00and thousands of people who had never many and never had to ask for help before.
- 24:04Right. You work a good job. Maybe.
- 24:05Mom, both mom and dad might work for the federal government.
- 24:08And all of a sudden, you know, you can't make rent and you can't make,
- 24:13buy groceries and and really needed help.
- 24:18And our phones were ringing off the hook.
- 24:20I mean, we actually had to pivot like a whole group of our staff,
- 24:25our our development staff that are normally working on, you know, donations.
- 24:30We were like,
- 24:31okay, put a hold on that right now, and we're going to actually ask you guys
- 24:34to answer the phone so we can make sure we can get people connected to resources.
- 24:41But I will tell you, for
- 24:42like every phone call that we got, someone seeking food assistance, we were getting
- 24:46the same number of calls of people saying, how can I help?
- 24:50They saw their neighbors hurting and they wanted to help.
- 24:54And so,
- 24:56it really, you know, every time we have a crisis or,
- 25:01you know, we see folks needing assistance,
- 25:07I just feel
- 25:07really lucky that we live in a place where people take care of each other.
- 25:10I don't think every part of the world is like this.
- 25:13You know, I think we are.
- 25:15I don't know, I never want to take that for granted.
- 25:17That we live in a place where somebody needs help.
- 25:20There is somebody with it's reaching out a hand to say, okay, I want to help.
- 25:24How can I do that?
- 25:25And if I can't afford to donate, I want to volunteer.
- 25:29I mean, we had volunteers who were in the same, you know, in the same situation.
- 25:34They they needed help, but, you know, they had extra time
- 25:37because they were furloughed.
- 25:38And so they wanted to
- 25:40they wanted to make sure that their neighbors,
- 25:42their colleagues had access to a safe and healthy food.
- 25:45So I would say,
- 25:48it can be challenging.
- 25:49You know, it can be hard just to when you spend time
- 25:53thinking about how difficult it is and it's not right.
- 25:57I just don't think,
- 26:00I don't think it's right that you can, you know, work
- 26:0540 hours a week and maybe you'd be
- 26:08working 60 hours a week, and you still,
- 26:12can't
- 26:14feed your kids, right? Like
- 26:17we should live in a place where,
- 26:19you know, things like food are, you know, not a question.
- 26:23Like, we're not worried about our kids getting enough to eat.
- 26:26I just wish that we lived in a time, that this wasn't it.
- 26:31We didn't have a job.
- 26:32Right?
- 26:33Like, I think in the long term, our goal,
- 26:36the food bank would be, like, work ourselves out of a job like that.
- 26:39Wouldn't that be? That's what we want. I don't,
- 26:44I don't
- 26:44want to have to share numbers with you that keep on going up.
- 26:48Right.
- 26:49And that being said,
- 26:51I think we also are lucky
- 26:54that we get to help people in like,
- 26:57a really important and meaningful way so that
- 27:03that feels good.
- 27:04And you've been in this role for 5 or 6 years.
- 27:07Five years. Yeah.
- 27:09What inspired you to take on this position?
- 27:13You know, I think for me, I've been in the nonprofit space my whole career.
- 27:18But working more in kind of the,
- 27:23educational science cultural side.
- 27:27And I actually
- 27:29really starting to feel this is like, in the beginning of the pandemic,
- 27:34just seeing how many families were really, really struggling.
- 27:38And I wanted to do something that felt more tangible
- 27:43and I that could really help more people.
- 27:48And this opportunity came along
- 27:51and I really felt like, you know, there's,
- 27:56there's a lot of it was a really interesting time
- 27:58for the food bank because we, you know, the need had skyrocketed.
- 28:02It really made us change. A lot of, like,
- 28:06I think our own assumptions about the work that we could do,
- 28:10understanding, you know, seeing what the need really was.
- 28:13How did we shift our own,
- 28:16you know, operations and how we sourced food?
- 28:19So it gave us it was an interesting time where the food bank had the opportunity
- 28:24to, like, start to think a little bit differently about its work.
- 28:27And I just really felt like it was something I couldn't really pass up.
- 28:32Right.
- 28:32The opportunity really help people in this, in this meaningful way.
- 28:36Plus, I really like food. So.
- 28:38But yeah, super admirable you're taking this on during the pandemic.
- 28:42So there's, you know, there's some expectations.
- 28:44You know things are tough. People you know are out of work.
- 28:47People are stuck at home.
- 28:48But the numbers, like you said, continued to go up.
- 28:52So was this what you expected it to be?
- 28:55You know, I don't know what I expected going in.
- 28:58I think I, I really didn't know a lot about the food bank and what it did.
- 29:03You know, I was a donor.
- 29:05I cared about the food bank.
- 29:07But I think I kind of imagined,
- 29:11I didn't realize the,
- 29:13connections that that organization has into community.
- 29:16Right?
- 29:16Like we're not doing the distributions ourselves.
- 29:19We are working with just this incredible network of agencies
- 29:23all around across the island, right, who are doing that hard work
- 29:27of getting food into communities.
- 29:29So, you know, I don't know if I knew really what to expect.
- 29:33And I've just been amazed kind of over and over at
- 29:37just the incredible work that's happening across this whole the space,
- 29:43I did, you know, when I first
- 29:44started, we we did initially start to see the numbers start to tick down.
- 29:48And so, you know, it really did feel like we're coming back to some sort of,
- 29:54you know, new normal.
- 29:55And we spent some time really thinking about it, like, hey, well,
- 29:58what's our goal?
- 29:59You know, is our goal post
- 30:01pandemic to get back to pre-pandemic levels of food insecurity.
- 30:05And we talked about it and thought about it.
- 30:08And really, you know, kind of where we landed was like, well,
- 30:12how many kids are we okay with going to bed hungry at night, you know, is it okay?
- 30:17Is it good enough to get back to where we were before the pandemic?
- 30:21But I have to tell you, I've never had a conversation with
- 30:24somebody asked that question like, oh,
- 30:26how many kids are we okay with going to bed hungry at night on this island?
- 30:30The answer is always zero, right?
- 30:32Like I it's not right. I don't feel like,
- 30:37I should be able to sleep at night.
- 30:39If we know that there are kids that aren't getting enough food.
- 30:43So it gave us a chance to kind of really start to think about what's our goal.
- 30:48And our goal is zero, right?
- 30:50Like, we got to really work at this.
- 30:54So it both allowed us to start to think about, you know, maybe our job
- 30:58isn't just to meet the need, but it's also to shorten the line.
- 31:03Like what?
- 31:03Where where are ways that we can really partner,
- 31:07with other organizations, with government, with,
- 31:12you know, folks that are doing
- 31:13also really important work that might not be food related, but,
- 31:17hey, maybe food gets people in the door, but then we can connect them
- 31:21with, you know, job training or other or other things that can help.
- 31:26So I think it was both
- 31:27this idea of like, okay,
- 31:30let's, let's really think about what it might take
- 31:32to solve hunger and end hunger.
- 31:36And then at the same time, we started to see, you know,
- 31:40things getting harder or just getting harder for folks to make ends meet.
- 31:43And so the numbers started to take back out.
- 31:44So, you know, maybe we're a little bit further away
- 31:46than where we thought we were, when I first,
- 31:50got to the food bank.
- 31:52But I think also just seeing,
- 31:56as we've had these challenges and whether it's Somalia, wildfires
- 32:00or the shutdown or people understanding, like when I go to the grocery store,
- 32:06I see how expensive things are getting and and how might that make
- 32:11how might that make it that much harder for someone that's already,
- 32:14you know, struggling?
- 32:15I think bringing attention to it
- 32:17and people really seeing that and wanting to be part of the solution,
- 32:21I think that's what it's really going to take.
- 32:22It's going to take all of us
- 32:24working together to say, like, look, this isn't acceptable.
- 32:27We're not okay with kids going to bed hungry on this island,
- 32:29but we can do something about it.
- 32:30We really can. Yeah.
- 32:33Yeah, it's really interesting like you mentioned. Right.
- 32:35So post-pandemic you have the Maui wildfires.
- 32:37You have, you know, no control over the economy.
- 32:39So maybe this isn't where you wanted it to be.
- 32:42But there's no question that the food bank does
- 32:44incredible work and incredibly difficult work.
- 32:48I've asked this to several of our city directors
- 32:50that I want to pose this question to you, but music has a way of healing.
- 32:54Yeah.
- 32:54And so for you, is there a song that can help pick you up
- 32:58when you're having a rough day that immediately makes things better?
- 33:01Oh, man.
- 33:02Okay, you don't have to sing it, but you can't not.
- 33:05That's not.
- 33:05You do not want me to sing it.
- 33:07Gosh, that is a good question.
- 33:11Well, I'll tell you kind of
- 33:12the most recent one, but my kids are me so embarrassed, which is,
- 33:16the K-pop Demon Hunters soundtrack.
- 33:19I really got my golden gold in that.
- 33:22Yeah, that that song can really like.
- 33:24I can listen to that and sing to it in the car.
- 33:26And my kids are like, mom, it's so embarrassing.
- 33:29But yeah.
- 33:30Oh, that's that's my answer.
- 33:32And you can do it.
- 33:33Good choice. Amy, is there anything that we missed?
- 33:36I don't think so.
- 33:37You know, actually, there is one other thing I'd like to say, which is,
- 33:41you know, we talked a little bit about if you want to be part of the solution,
- 33:45if you want to help, how you can help.
- 33:46And going to the, you know, the food banks website or participating in the city
- 33:51Employees Coalition food drive.
- 33:53But if you need help,
- 33:56we are here for you.
- 33:57And I really want to be sure that anyone out there
- 34:00who is struggling to put food on the table or worried
- 34:04about what I'm going to feed my kids for breakfast tomorrow or dinner,
- 34:08please know that you can go to our website to get help, but
- 34:12and there is a resource for you in your own community.
- 34:16We have literally hundreds of partners, and every day
- 34:21there are dozens of distributions taking place across this island.
- 34:24And there are people that care about you and want to make sure you're okay.
- 34:28So please do not hesitate to to look for help
- 34:31because, that's exactly why we're here.
- 34:34Amy, thank you so much for your time.
- 34:36No problem. Thank you for having me.
- 34:38And like she mentioned, you can contribute to this.
- 34:40Your city employee food and fund drive.
- 34:42You can drop off canned food donations at any Oahu
- 34:46satellite city hall or Honolulu Fire station.
- 34:49This year's food drive runs until May 8th.
- 34:52Mahalo for listening and until next time, Aloha!