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Ohio Senate Bill 56 - Hemp / CBD / Marijuana Bill · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: A O six to fifty five gar Ceed Talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Of course, Judge down at Paul tumm Ab
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the hour every Wednesday at eight thirty. In
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  Speaker 1: the meantime, I'm happy to see a late edition of
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  Speaker 1: the fifty five Garsee Morning Show. Dear friend of mine,
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  Speaker 1: we go back decades, went to church together, and I've
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  Speaker 1: been good friends with his older brother for well that long,
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  Speaker 1: since I was a little kid. Welcome back to the
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  Speaker 1: morning show. It's been a while. Beach, the owner of
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  Speaker 1: the Temptation's locations here in the greater Cincinnati area. Good
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  Speaker 1: to hear from me.
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  Speaker 2: Man, it is great to be here. I'm glad that
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  Speaker 2: I still have a voice to be heard.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and of course with HB fifty six kicking in
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  Speaker 1: on Friday, you know, a great guest to have on
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  Speaker 1: the program because you understand all this. You've been your
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  Speaker 1: Hamptation stores have been opened since what ninety five or ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Six, ninety five is correct, yes, ninety five, thirty years.
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  Speaker 3: What you know.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing I learned from you, you can make
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  Speaker 1: almost anything out of hemp. And this is before you know,
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  Speaker 1: we had all these mass legalization of hemp. But it
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  Speaker 1: was a great farming product. They made rope out of
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  Speaker 1: it for years, an industrial product. You can make paper
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  Speaker 1: out of a clothing. You can make an entire bar
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  Speaker 1: out of it, which you have at your location at Sharonville.
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  Speaker 2: Used to we actually had to close the Shong. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we've downsized quite a bit. We have still not honestly
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  Speaker 2: recovered from what COVID did to retail, and so I'm yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty much downsized to to to one shop down
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  Speaker 2: in north Side on Spring Grove Avenue.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you can't.
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  Speaker 2: You can build a house from it, you can build
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  Speaker 2: a car from it, you can run that car on it.
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  Speaker 2: You can make the strongest natural material, which is just
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  Speaker 2: hemp material, or you can make the strongest natural man
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  Speaker 2: made material, which is graphine. So you can make graphine
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  Speaker 2: from hemp, which is the strongest man made material on
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  Speaker 2: the planet.
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  Speaker 3: It's endless.
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  Speaker 2: It's it is honestly endless what you can do with
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  Speaker 2: the whole plant.
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  Speaker 1: It is true in this you have been advocating for
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  Speaker 1: and enlightening people to the versatility of hemp for a
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  Speaker 1: long long time, and that it was ever illegal is
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  Speaker 1: kind of weird. Because as we move over to HB
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  Speaker 1: fifty six, and what it means you can also out
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  Speaker 1: of hemp get hemp derived THHC. Now, this is where
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  Speaker 1: I want you to break it down from my listeners
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  Speaker 1: who may not be hipped to the whole reality of
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  Speaker 1: hemp derived THC versus THC from regulated marijuana, which we
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  Speaker 1: voted in the state of Ohio to allow legality of.
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  Speaker 1: And there's medical and there's recreational stores all over the place. Now,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, there's one like a few miles from my
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  Speaker 1: house at two seventy five of Montgomery Road. Now, so
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  Speaker 1: that's where you buy real marijuana with typically higher THHC contents.
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  Speaker 1: But hemp itself has a really really tiny amount of
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  Speaker 1: natural THHC in it. Right, I remember some politicians saying,
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  Speaker 1: no self respecting stone or would ever be caught smoking hemp.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, be like a pointless gesture, try to get
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  Speaker 1: high off of it?
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  Speaker 3: Is that? Right?
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  Speaker 1: It's got a little bit though, Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. Well, here here's the deal. When the federal
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  Speaker 2: government defined hemp, it is cannabis with point three percent
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  Speaker 2: or less THHC. So there is that minuscule amount of THHC.
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  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, when you know
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  Speaker 2: you take your say you're growing for CBD or CBG
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  Speaker 2: or CBN. You take that flower and you extract that.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to make an isolate from that, you
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  Speaker 2: extract that CBD. But then then off is that that
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  Speaker 2: point three percent and that's by dryway at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the harvest. Okay, that's not the end product. That's
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  Speaker 2: where there's a lot of confusion because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people believe that you can only have point three percent
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  Speaker 2: THHC and say the bottle of the tasture of CBD. No, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you have that point three percent that's allowed at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the harvest, only three percent of that flower,
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  Speaker 2: right is THC goes into a jar.
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  Speaker 3: Up on a shelf. This is basically how this.
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  Speaker 2: All kind of played out in the industry in twenty
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  Speaker 2: and eighteen. So it's been legal to grow hemp in
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  Speaker 2: the United States. It's twenty fourteen. Hemp has been off
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  Speaker 2: the controlled substance list since twenty and eighteen. So anyway
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  Speaker 2: you end up with that point three percent THCHC. You
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  Speaker 2: can take that THC. And I want to be clear here, folks,
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  Speaker 2: that THCHC is exactly the same THC is what they
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  Speaker 2: what what is in quotes marijuana. Of course, marijuana is cannabis,
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  Speaker 2: just so everybody knows it's it's the same plant, too,
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  Speaker 2: different definitions.
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  Speaker 3: Of a plant.
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  Speaker 1: One's got a lot of THC, the other one has
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  Speaker 1: a lowerman of THC hemp or cannabis.
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  Speaker 2: But that THC is is just fine, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, It's the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 3: So what do we do?
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  Speaker 1: Then we take the hemp derive point three THCHC that's
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  Speaker 1: sitting in a refined jar on the job and you
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  Speaker 1: concentrate that right, and you end up with what might
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  Speaker 1: be an intoxicating beverage made from hemp.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you just take that in milligram form and
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  Speaker 2: that's you know, they just you know, say say hey,
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  Speaker 2: there's five milligrams of THHD. You put that in your
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  Speaker 2: seltzer waters or whatever it is. It's huge on the market, huge.
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  Speaker 3: On the market. It's so big that, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: alcohol industry.
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  Speaker 2: Last year dropped by thirty percent in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: and a huge part of that they blame it on
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  Speaker 2: generations not drinking.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you this.
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  Speaker 2: The one of the reasons, purely is because people are
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  Speaker 2: moving to THC drinks.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to drink alcohol anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But THHD drinks are just what they need, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And this is everybody and I and I you know
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  Speaker 2: I had to say it, but you know they finally
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  Speaker 2: is a lawsuit. And again, I don't know why these
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  Speaker 2: lawsuits didn't start sooner, because there are lawsuits on every
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  Speaker 2: end of And I want to correct you.
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  Speaker 3: It's SB fifty s B yeah, not HB. Yes, I
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  Speaker 3: said s B all morning.
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  Speaker 1: And of course when I interview the man who knows
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  Speaker 1: the most about this, I screw it up. Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 1: can be wrong. I'm on record. I screw up from
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  Speaker 1: time to time, unlike rustling bok.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you are talking to a person that knows more
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  Speaker 2: about hemp than.
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  Speaker 3: So that's true. I feel like correcting you is okay.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody can correct anyway, all right, So I understand maybe
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  Speaker 1: the reaction. You've explained it wonderfully. Of course, anybody with
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  Speaker 1: a win about him is going to say, wait a second,
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  Speaker 1: there's hemp or there's THC in the hemp. Let's concentrated.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's how we went from poppy plants to heroin.
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  Speaker 1: For God's sake, somebody had an idea, right, so well,
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  Speaker 1: we all know we love the THCHC. Everybody knows we
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  Speaker 1: love currently so it's a growing phenomenon. But now as
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  Speaker 1: of Friday, the law has changed with SB fifty six,
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  Speaker 1: which now I think of because I saw the news
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  Speaker 1: story last night. There's a liquor store in Loveland that
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  Speaker 1: that's where I go if I need liquor, and they
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  Speaker 1: sell these beverages there, capies. They at a couple of locations.
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  Speaker 1: They interview one of the principles there copies and said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be we're gonna be putting this
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  Speaker 1: stuff all on sale because as a Friday, we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna go to sell it anymore. And somebody chimed in
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  Speaker 1: and said, well, you can still buy it in Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: So those beverages are still available across the river, I suppose, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Or shipped you online again. The oh there's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing. The state of Ohio A they
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  Speaker 2: don't have the authority to redefine help. So them saying
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  Speaker 2: that we can't buy hemp where we're buying hemp now
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  Speaker 2: is an illegal action. It's not legal for them to
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  Speaker 2: do that. Only the federal government can redefine what happens.
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  Speaker 2: The second part of this is they haven't even defined
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  Speaker 2: what intoxicating hemps really is and so is it just THHC?
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  Speaker 2: So are they just removing THC products, because then all
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  Speaker 2: the what the industry should do is just move to THHCA,
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  Speaker 2: which is exactly the same thing once it's heated, which
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  Speaker 2: is how I can sell cannabis flour because it's THHCA
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  Speaker 2: and it's you know, when you go to the dispensary,
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  Speaker 2: they include the THHCA content with the total THC. We
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  Speaker 2: can boost these numbers in hemp up to thirty percent.
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  Speaker 2: This is another see the marijuana industry, the marijuana and
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  Speaker 2: alcohol industry are both going after hemp, and we're we're
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  Speaker 2: the federally legal ones.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's our time.
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  Speaker 2: Product to me that the marijuana industry, which is not
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  Speaker 2: federally legal, is attacking the hemp industry, which is federally legal,
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  Speaker 2: because they.
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  Speaker 3: Don't like the competition.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's pause. I want to bring it back
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  Speaker 1: because that word intoxicating is interesting. Going back to your point,
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  Speaker 1: hemp has zero point three percent or less of THC,
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  Speaker 1: is it intoxicating? I don't know at what point we
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  Speaker 1: might find intoxicating THC.
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  Speaker 3: So pause, We'll be talkstation.
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  Speaker 1: A twenty fifty five KCD talk station talking SB fifty
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  Speaker 1: six comes into full effect here in Ohio on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: So you'll no longer be able to walk into a
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  Speaker 1: store where you currently could get them, like Cappy's Liquor
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  Speaker 1: store and get your THC beverages. But it's beyond that,
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  Speaker 1: Beach my friend who owns Temptations, You're still at temptations
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  Speaker 1: dot com right, yes, ademptations dot com, and there's an
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  Speaker 1: online shop there where we will get their CBD oil
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  Speaker 1: and other products. But also the high noon Hemp show
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  Speaker 1: that you do every Wednesday. I'll let people know at
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  Speaker 1: noon if they're interested in checking out your podcast, that's
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  Speaker 1: where they might find that as well. So, Beach my friend,
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  Speaker 1: going back to the question of intoxicating THG, is that
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  Speaker 1: like defined as a specific level or is that word
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  Speaker 1: just floating around out there? Because what is what specifically
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  Speaker 1: are we talking about under these legal changes?
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  Speaker 2: Well, intoxic The term intoxicating help popped up about a
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  Speaker 2: year or so, Yeah, just randomly, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: describing all of these cannabinoids that supposedly intoxicates you, which
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  Speaker 2: has never been defined, you know what I mean, You've
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  Speaker 2: never been Never in the history of medical has there
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  Speaker 2: been anything that's been defined as intoxicating drug.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know, you know. So that's the whole.
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  Speaker 3: That's the whole.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way they do these things. Marijuana the way
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  Speaker 2: the word marijuana was made up by the government in
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  Speaker 2: the or in the thirties or late twenties, just.
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  Speaker 3: Like they make up the term intoxicating.
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  Speaker 2: Help to tell us something that we must like isn't
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  Speaker 2: good for us or isn't safe. And again this all
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  Speaker 2: goes back to me saying, they keep telling us these
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  Speaker 2: things are so unsafe. And see, the federal government's done
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. There's a ban on these intoxicating hemp
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  Speaker 2: products that goes into effect in November with the federal government.
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  Speaker 2: And this stuff is so unsafe that they passed us
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  Speaker 2: back in November, but they said.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna give it a year. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing this, We're doing this for the kids. We're
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  Speaker 2: doing this to save everybody from these terrible unsafe products.
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  Speaker 2: But we're gonna give it a year before it actually
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  Speaker 2: goes into effect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand it. And you know the reason
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  Speaker 1: this alarm bells amongst some of my listeners. You're the gummies,
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  Speaker 1: for example, they do look like the regular non intoxicating gummies,
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  Speaker 1: and if you leave them out, obviously the problem is
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  Speaker 1: people who leave them out for their kids to eat,
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  Speaker 1: kids might likely eat them much in the same way
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  Speaker 1: they might drink that intoxicating cough syrup or take whatever
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  Speaker 1: drugs you might be leave laying around on your countertop.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know we're going to solve that particular problem.
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  Speaker 2: But beyond that, no bad We're never going to solve
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  Speaker 2: bad parenting, right, no question, you can't solve you can't.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you can't solve ignorance. And so you know
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  Speaker 2: that's why I hate that argument to begin with. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's not the product's fault, all right, just like
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: So so as I understand it, folks are interested in
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  Speaker 1: continue to buy Willie's tincture online. They can still get
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  Speaker 1: it mailed to their home even if they're in Ohio. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they can go across the river.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a hundred, one hundred websites online to
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  Speaker 2: ship any of these products. All the products that they're
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  Speaker 2: saying we can't sell, you can easily buy online and
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  Speaker 2: having shifteas still.
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  Speaker 3: Federally legal to ship over state lines.
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  Speaker 1: Now, will that be the case after November?
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  Speaker 2: They're not now that that will change if that goes
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  Speaker 2: into effect, which I will predict right now, will actually
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  Speaker 2: they will end up putting a two year.
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  Speaker 3: Extension on that. We'll see what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Which means for two years thereafter it won't be bad
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  Speaker 1: for us until that to year period's over.
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  Speaker 3: That is correct, That is correct?
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  Speaker 1: What other what else? I keep mentioning the THC beverages
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  Speaker 1: because I saw that article or that that story last
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  Speaker 1: out of the news. But what else is impacted by
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  Speaker 1: the change under Centerpel fifty six.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, of course, you know they want to
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  Speaker 2: make changes to what the voters voted in for the
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  Speaker 2: marijuana laws that that are legal now as far as
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  Speaker 2: growing in possession and this and that, and again changing.
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  Speaker 3: The will of the people.
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  Speaker 2: And they're also trying to say that only the smoking
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  Speaker 2: products can be in the dispensaries, which is again that's
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  Speaker 2: anti consumers.
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  Speaker 3: And there's no way they're going to be able.
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  Speaker 2: To to tell every shop in the state of Ohio
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  Speaker 2: they can't sell rolling papers, they can't sell raps. They
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  Speaker 2: can't sell pipes. They can't, I mean again, and so
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  Speaker 2: every part of this, every part of this is unconstitutional
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  Speaker 2: basically again, they can't change the definition of how.
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  Speaker 3: They can't.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion, this just shows they always say, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to change things, vote, That's how you change
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  Speaker 2: things in America. You vote, we vote, and then they
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  Speaker 2: say no, we're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to change what you voted on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and to that effect, and since we're out of time,
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  Speaker 1: beach my friend from temptations. Uh, there is a ballot
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  Speaker 1: initiative going on. They're collecting signatures to undo the effects
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  Speaker 1: of SB fifty six.
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  Speaker 3: We weren't collecting signatures for that. But they don't have
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  Speaker 3: any money.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's gonna be only the lawsuits are going
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  Speaker 2: to stop this. And so you know, and I will again,
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  Speaker 2: I will continue to sell federally legal products from genes
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  Speaker 2: to THHDA flower.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: And that's you know. They did this, They did this before.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was kind of a national spokesman for
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  Speaker 2: CBD because the state of Ohio in twenty eighteen said
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't have CBD unless you've got it from the dispensary.
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  Speaker 3: You can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: CB doesn't CD doesn't do anything except maybe benefit you
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  Speaker 1: in some ways medically. But you can't get high on it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean anyhow, Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have
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  Speaker 1: in a protectionist world. We know that you're there to
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  Speaker 1: fight for our rights. I know that, Beach, my friend.
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  Speaker 1: And just so you know, Joe sent me it, not
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  Speaker 1: Joe Strecker, one of my listener friends on Facebook. Joe
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  Speaker 1: set me a quick message. I have a pair of
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Taylor's shoes made out of hemp, so those are
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  Speaker 1: out there in the world too.
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  Speaker 3: They are Yeah Hemp dot com.
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  Speaker 1: You can check out his podcast, The Heighight Nude Hemp
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  Speaker 1: Show every Wednesday Temptations dot com. Beach, it's great talking
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  Speaker 1: with you, my friend. Give your brother my best switch.
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  Speaker 2: On YouTube on you well, it's on YouTube, Yeah, Jedi
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  Speaker 2: Hemp channel on YouTube. Subscribe to the Jedi Hamp channel
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube. There's over three hundred episod those of the
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  Speaker 2: Hingham Show and that's the best place to watch it
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  Speaker 2: live every Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: The Jedi I will send yes, love you brother. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for your time on short notice today. I'm glad you're up.
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  Speaker 1: We had you pegged as one of those I like
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  Speaker 1: to get up when the sun is warm.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of guys be