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Power Hour 8-20-2024 SCHOOL BUS RULES · Chuck Douglas

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Speaker 1: Breading Scienceations. Welcome my friends to another Editiontive Power Hour.
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Speaker 1: This is six ten dou WUTV and I'm Chuck Douglass.
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Speaker 1: You allegedly know who you are. We take it from there.
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Speaker 1: We get one hour together, which means I talk really
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Speaker 1: really fast. You must listen even faster my number eight
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Speaker 1: two one nine eighty six eight two one WTV and
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Speaker 1: or eight hundred and six to ten WTV. And you
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Speaker 1: may very well may want to grab a line because
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Speaker 1: I've got somebody in the studio. This is important stuff,
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Speaker 1: not only for the safety of the children, because it's
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Speaker 1: always for the children. It's that's what makes it real,
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Speaker 1: but also because it'll cost you a fortune if you
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Speaker 1: mess up out there. And I'm talking about school bus season.
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Speaker 1: What do you do on the roads? What do you
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Speaker 1: don't do on the roads? In the studio with me
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Speaker 1: right now a Columbus Police Department as sergeant, Is it
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Speaker 1: still Sergeant James fuchor or I don't want to demote you. Uh, yes,
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Speaker 1: still sergeant, Okay, because I mean the stripes are the stripes?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Who is very well versed on the traffic situation out here,
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Speaker 1: and I am admittedly ignorant a lot of times I
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Speaker 1: do what other traffic does unless my common sense just goes,
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Speaker 1: oh no, nobody should be passing this bus or going it.
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Speaker 1: But I got hit with something while we were talking
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Speaker 1: off the air that I thought, I'm wrong. I'm absolutely wrong.
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Speaker 1: I thought out on my beloved west side out there,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Franklin Township slash Columbus area between Wilson
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Speaker 1: Road and the Hollywood Casino where when they're not under construction,
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Speaker 1: which will be on a Tuesday next year, I understand
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Speaker 1: we have we have four lanes of traffic I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: three lanes of traffic eastbound, three lanes of traffic westbound,
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Speaker 1: and a center turn lane where you can turn left
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Speaker 1: except the morons who turn right. And I would think
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Speaker 1: if I'm on the far right lane going west out
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Speaker 1: toward the casino, not that I'm stopping there because I
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Speaker 1: like my money, but out that direction, and if a
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Speaker 1: school bus was coming back and it was going to
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Speaker 1: stop there, like by the AutoZone place where there's a
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Speaker 1: housing development or something, maybe they can't get there because
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Speaker 1: ice or whatever, I would think I would not have
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Speaker 1: to stop because there's no housing on my side of
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Speaker 1: the road. But officer, Sergeant Fuqua looked at me and said, oh,
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Speaker 1: you are mistaken. So you are you have to stop
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Speaker 1: even with that many lanes. That's correct, that's that's weird.
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Speaker 3: One of the biggest misconceptions as it relates to school buses,
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Speaker 3: the stop sign and when you can and cannot go right, Like,
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Speaker 3: we are very busy, especially this time of year when
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Speaker 3: we have enjoyed the entire summer of having no buses
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Speaker 3: in the morning, no kids running around, and we can
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Speaker 3: come and go as we please.
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Speaker 1: It's because they were all in my house. Well, yall's
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Speaker 1: children at my house, low little eating things.
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Speaker 2: Well, the kids love you, so that's a great thing.
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Speaker 2: That's a great thing.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, but with school starting back, obviously it's an
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Speaker 3: adjustment for all of us as drivers, even us as
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Speaker 3: officers included.
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Speaker 2: So it is absolutely correct.
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Speaker 3: When you are on an open lane, whether it's ten
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Speaker 3: lanes of traffic or two lanes of traffic, when that
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Speaker 3: school bus stops and that stop sign is out and activated,
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Speaker 3: unless there is a specific road barrier between the lanes
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Speaker 3: of traffic to where you cannot cross over, you do
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Speaker 3: have to stop now.
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Speaker 1: And that's is that like ground level concrete barrier or
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Speaker 1: does it have to be a guardrail type.
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Speaker 2: Situation concrete bearer.
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Speaker 3: So essentially the best piece of advice I always give people,
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Speaker 3: if you think you should be stopping, you should probably stop.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's see, that's something else again pointing out on
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Speaker 1: my belowal Woice side Sulimon Avenue, where you know all
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Speaker 1: the culture is but Sullivan, then that's one play of
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Speaker 1: playing they you know, the mayor wanted to save us
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Speaker 1: from from the crime and the decay, so they painted
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Speaker 1: the bridge right there's Sullivan in seventy but then they
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Speaker 1: installed these They're stupid. They're stupid little concrete islands in
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Speaker 1: the middle of Sullivan Avenue. So if you're your eastbound
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Speaker 1: on Sullivan, say you want to turn on the Showba Avenue,
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Speaker 1: but you're in a left turnline. But the left turnlane
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Speaker 1: is blocked at Nijoba Avenue by a concrete barrier, so
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Speaker 1: you go around. That's awkward. Don't we have enough? How
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Speaker 1: do you enforce something like that? It's legal to turn
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Speaker 1: left there, but you cannot legally turn because you have
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Speaker 1: to go around that barrier and kind of come back
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Speaker 1: westbound in order to make the left hand turn.
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Speaker 2: It's definitely very difficult.
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Speaker 3: And as you say that culture in that area, you
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Speaker 3: have a lot of activity and a lot of things
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Speaker 3: going on, not only with the hicular traffic, but you
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Speaker 3: have a lot of pedestrian traffic, so it is very
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Speaker 3: imperative to try to be as careful as you possibly can.
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Speaker 3: The city decided to put those in because that is
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Speaker 3: supposed to significantly reduce the amount of the hicular traffic accidents.
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Speaker 3: Now I don't have the data to support if that
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Speaker 3: has been effective or not, but it is definitely one
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Speaker 3: of those things that can cause a headache for drivers
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Speaker 3: trying to make turns off a settlement.
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Speaker 1: They have some wonderful ideas down there. I don't envy
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Speaker 1: you your job, definitely. I remember a couple years ago
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Speaker 1: when they first started calling attention to the female oriented
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Speaker 1: commerce out there, and I got pulled over because I
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Speaker 1: went to get some coffee. It was one thirty in
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Speaker 1: the morning, I'm working, I'm sitting in front of laptop.
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Speaker 1: I am not gonna make a full pot of coffee.
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Speaker 1: So I went down and went to the UDF to
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Speaker 1: get my one thirty in the morning coffee. What what
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Speaker 1: are you pulling? Excuse me, sir, what are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Why do you care? Well, it's one thirty in the morning,
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Speaker 1: I know what time it is. What do you want. Well,
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Speaker 1: we're handing these out and they hand me a folder
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Speaker 1: on leave hookers alone. I'm like, are you serious? I'm
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Speaker 1: just getting coffee. It might kill me too, but not
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Speaker 1: as bad what I could never do it. So back
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Speaker 1: to the traffic thing. The school bus system in Columbus
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Speaker 1: last year was abysmal. Every single morning I was getting
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Speaker 1: text to this bus running late, this bus running late.
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Speaker 1: This bus if covered? This year, they say they've got
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Speaker 1: that handled. I have to assume that means they have
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Speaker 1: new drivers. That's got to be a consideration too, because
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Speaker 1: we're going to have people on very large vehicles with
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Speaker 1: very loud children that perhaps have not done this before.
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Speaker 1: Is that Is there any sort of mindset where you're
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Speaker 1: going to have to I don't want to say go
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Speaker 1: after drivers in lieu of the buses, but maybe police
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Speaker 1: around moving school buses a little bit more to protect
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Speaker 1: them from their own inexperience in that job. Make sure
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Speaker 1: that we're doing the right thing because they may not yet.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a fair point, and I will tell you
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Speaker 3: that we have worked very well and very closely with
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Speaker 3: not only Columbus City Schools, but other Central Ohio school
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Speaker 3: districts in terms of the bus routes and the routes
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Speaker 3: that they take and the amount of time that they
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Speaker 3: are starting and stopping. You know, it's important because just
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Speaker 3: in the city of Columbus alone, since January first, up
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Speaker 3: to this date, we've had over twenty one thousand traffic
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Speaker 3: related reported accidents in the city. So, as you can tell,
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Speaker 3: that's a lot of accidents per day, twenty one thousand
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Speaker 3: over an eight and a half month period. So we
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Speaker 3: really try to focus on creating better ways to engage
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Speaker 3: in safe travel, not only with school buses but everyone.
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Speaker 3: So we definitely have put a focus on that. As
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Speaker 3: a matter of fact, we will be putting some stuff
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Speaker 3: out on our social media platforms tomorrow in regards to
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Speaker 3: the work that we have been doing with Columbus City
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Speaker 3: Schools specifically and bus safety.
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Speaker 1: Hit them in the pocket now. And this is why
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Speaker 1: it was important for me to have you in because
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Speaker 1: I wanted to to let people know, especially you know,
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Speaker 1: if you've never had this problem before, if you pass
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Speaker 1: a school bus when it stopped, that can hurt.
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Speaker 3: It hurts and not only does that hurt, but just
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Speaker 3: getting caught speeding in a school zone hurts. Just to
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Speaker 3: put in perspective, just this year alone, January through May,
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Speaker 3: I looked up how many school zone and fractions that
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Speaker 3: we wrote in terms of tickets, and we're over fourteen
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Speaker 3: hundred that we wrote just from a traffic unit perspective
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Speaker 3: from January up until the end of the school year.
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Speaker 3: So be ready starting tomorrow to see mostly our traffic
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Speaker 3: in the motorcycle guys out there enforcing traffic in the
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Speaker 3: school zones and typically what we see in August and
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Speaker 3: September or a higher number because people yet again are
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Speaker 3: getting used to kids being back into the school districts
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Speaker 3: and the school zones being lit up.
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Speaker 2: It's very important to know if.
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Speaker 3: You are not sure how far you're supposed to start
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Speaker 3: slowing down. The easiest rule of thumb is as soon
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Speaker 3: as you see that sign and when you see traffic
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Speaker 3: around you slowing down, slow down.
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Speaker 2: But by the book, it's three hundred feet.
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Speaker 3: So essentially, when you can see that twenty mile hour
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Speaker 3: sign flashing within three hundred feet, officers could technically write
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Speaker 3: you for going over twenty miles an hour, even if
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Speaker 3: you're not technically in the zone yet, so it's very
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Speaker 3: important and to try to start slowing down now.
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Speaker 2: Typically, you know, I'm.
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Speaker 3: Not supposed to give trade secrets, but we don't typically
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Speaker 3: enforce that until they're closer.
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Speaker 2: To that sign. But depending on the speed of the driver,
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Speaker 2: how many.
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Speaker 3: Kids are out, what time of day, what the traffic
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Speaker 3: is around, you can absolutely still get that ticket.
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Speaker 1: Are the flashing signs of the school crosswalks, by the way,
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Speaker 1: are those controlled by the system the individual school? Who
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Speaker 1: has control of those?
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Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know, But the schools actually
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Speaker 3: have the ability to control that because based on the
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Speaker 3: school zoned by law, there's certain time periods before school
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Speaker 3: starts and after school starts, how early and how late
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Speaker 3: they can.
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Speaker 2: Actually start those up.
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Speaker 3: But the schools actually control those going off and on.
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Speaker 1: I've seen a couple that were just left on, like
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Speaker 1: school was off, yeah, out that day, and the lights
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Speaker 1: are still flashing. I'm like, why are we moving twenty when? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: The financials are the financial repercussions of of you know,
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Speaker 1: exceeding the speed limit, blowing through a stop sign, whatever,
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Speaker 1: when you're in a school zone during those protected hours.
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Speaker 1: Do they double those the way that they do in
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Speaker 1: a construction zone.
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Speaker 3: Not only do they double those, but depending on how
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Speaker 3: fast you're going, it could be a required court a parent.
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Speaker 3: So in most traffic tickets you can just pay it online,
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Speaker 3: through the mail, through over the phone, whatever, But if
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Speaker 3: you are going a certain speed or during certain times
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Speaker 3: with the school bus, you're absolutely required to attend court
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Speaker 3: for that.
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Speaker 2: So anything school.
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Speaker 3: Zone related, you are looking at having a mandatory court
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Speaker 3: of parents.
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Speaker 1: Good good, I was. You know, as I said, I've
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Speaker 1: raised my own kids, I got grandkids. I'm watching out
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Speaker 1: for now, and I just endangering, harming, anything detrimental to
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Speaker 1: the well being of a child. I have very very
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Speaker 1: little sympathy for how I am. I've got There's a
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Speaker 1: stop sign where I live, and I sit in the
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Speaker 1: evenings and I will watch all these people blow through there.
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Speaker 1: Hreas well. It's a twenty five miles per hour street.
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Speaker 1: They go through there at like fifty blow through the
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Speaker 1: stop side, and I'm thinking, at the next intersection is
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Speaker 1: the beginning of a school And you know, if you're
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Speaker 1: driving like that now, it just it scares me what
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Speaker 1: kind of people you are that you might you might
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Speaker 1: endanger children like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very scary for sure.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a parent myself, so I would never
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Speaker 3: want anything to happen to anybody's child, especially mine.
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Speaker 1: School zones and buses put aside, here, is there anything
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Speaker 1: else traffic consideration wise that we're not talking about. People
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Speaker 1: don't ask about think about outside of that zone or
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Speaker 1: outside of being near a bus when it comes to
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Speaker 1: school and how you drive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, believe it or not.
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Speaker 3: Actually, this time of year, starting now going all the
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Speaker 3: way through the end of October, one of the things
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Speaker 3: we don't think about when you live in Ohio, A
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Speaker 3: lot of people do not think about is how the
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Speaker 3: sun rises and how the sun sets, and this time
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Speaker 3: of year is most danger and all drivers are most
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Speaker 3: susceptible to being in a traffic accident based on the
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Speaker 3: sun pattern. So, in other words, if you are getting
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Speaker 3: up in the morning and you are traveling east where
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Speaker 3: the sun is rising, the sun is so bright and
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Speaker 3: it's at such a unique angle being in this part
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Speaker 3: of the country this time of year that if you
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Speaker 3: don't have sunglasses and your sun visor and making sure
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Speaker 3: your defrost is on to make sure your windows aren't
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Speaker 3: frosting up. Because the temperature is also a factor in
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Speaker 3: that that we see a lot of traffic accidents because
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Speaker 3: quite frankly, the way the sun is rising and setting.
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Speaker 3: So again, if you're driving home, like you're going out
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Speaker 3: to the West Side and you're driving down Broad Street
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Speaker 3: this time of year, the sun sets in a way
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Speaker 3: that is very difficult to differentiate the traffic light signal colors.
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Speaker 3: So we see an uptick and an increase in accidents
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Speaker 3: based on that. So something as simple as keeping sunglasses
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Speaker 3: in your car is critical this time of year.
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Speaker 1: This weekend, as we were getting school clothing ap purchase
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Speaker 1: and everything, went up to the outlet mall and I
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Speaker 1: actually saw a sunglass hut and I said, I'm not
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Speaker 1: doing this with all these kids, but I do need
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Speaker 1: to get in it, just because that as we head
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Speaker 1: into autumn, the tilt of the earth makes that sunrise
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Speaker 1: and sunset both more intense. Plus snow will get here eventually,
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Speaker 1: and the reflective factor of snow and sunshine. Yeah, good
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Speaker 1: sunglasses could be very helpful.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Oh you said the dirty s ward. I'm not
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Speaker 3: ready for that.
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Speaker 1: Ohio, it could happen tomorrow for all I know. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: if you have any any questions regarding the traffic situation,
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Speaker 1: what you should do, shouldn't do? Could could get in
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Speaker 1: big trouble for anything else when it comes to you
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Speaker 1: know how to handle yourself around school buses, schools, children
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Speaker 1: and so forth. The man who can answer those questions
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Speaker 1: is in the studio right now, Columbus Police Sergeant James
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Speaker 1: Fuqua eight two one WTV and or eight hundred and sixty
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Speaker 1: ten WTV and T I have another check of traffic
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Speaker 1: and weather together. What to do, what not to do?
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Speaker 1: What will it cost you if you mess up in
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Speaker 1: traffic around a school bus or in a school zone?
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Speaker 1: Thomas Police Officer James Sergeant Fuqua joining me to answer
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Speaker 1: your questions. Eight two one nine eight eight six number
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Speaker 1: eight two one WTV and Bob. I want to let
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Speaker 1: you know I did see your your question or your
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Speaker 1: misunderstanding of what he said earlier on Facebook. We're going
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Speaker 1: to get into that, I promise you. John's been on
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Speaker 1: hold the longest, so he is up first on the
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Speaker 1: Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. What's up, John, Hey.
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Speaker 4: Good afternoon shot. How you done pretty good?
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Speaker 1: As far as I know. I try not to ask
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Speaker 1: too many questions.
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Speaker 4: We'll get I'd like to say thank you to offer
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Speaker 4: the fuqua for being on your show, and I just
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Speaker 4: want to voice my opinion. As far as flashing school lights,
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Speaker 4: I don't care what the penalty is right now, it
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Speaker 4: needs to be double because our children and our future
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Speaker 4: are not worth There's nothing on the face of earth
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Speaker 4: worth you speeding through a school zone. As far as
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Speaker 4: making a mistake when a bus stops on a roadway,
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Speaker 4: I can understand that if in doubt stop, our children
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Speaker 4: are worth the world.
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, John, and like you said, the most
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Speaker 1: important thing you just said, if in doubt stop, which
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Speaker 1: is something that when we were talking off the air
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Speaker 1: today at that Broad Street segment out there, that is
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Speaker 1: essentially what the sergeant told me. If you don't know
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Speaker 1: for sure, just be safe and stop. And it makes
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Speaker 1: perfect sense. I have to look at it that way,
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Speaker 1: because you're right, the kids are more important than wherever
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Speaker 1: I have to be. I was asking him a question
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Speaker 1: two about it. In my neighborhood, on the one of
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Speaker 1: the streets that I travel a great deal trying to
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Speaker 1: get out of the neighborhood. Last year, there were two
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Speaker 1: stops for children with disabilities. I think they were both
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Speaker 1: in wheelchairs. If I'm not mistaken, and I was asking him,
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Speaker 1: is there any time limit? Because literally I have sat
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Speaker 1: for ten minutes while the I guess it's mom was
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Speaker 1: bringing one of the kids out of the house and
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I have really got to get to the station.
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Speaker 1: I really got to get you know, you wait, there's
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Speaker 1: no rule about that. There are some accommodations we make
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Speaker 1: for things in life that we think are really stupid.
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Speaker 1: This is something that you know, this doesn't fall into
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Speaker 1: the stupid category. This is about the kids. So you
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Speaker 1: wait as long as it takes, and you know, turn
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Speaker 1: on the radio and listen to me while you're waiting. Tom,
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Speaker 1: You're on sixth n doble UTV and how are you.
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Speaker 5: Hi. I have a quick question regarding stopping for school buses.
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Speaker 5: What about on a five lane roadway where there's two lanes,
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Speaker 5: say eastbound, two lanes westbound, and you have a continuous
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Speaker 5: turn lane in the middle, if are you required to
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Speaker 5: stop for a bus on the opposite side of the
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Speaker 5: street you're traveling.
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Speaker 1: That's just what we were talking about. That Bob on
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Speaker 1: Facebook didn't understand from the beginning, So thanks for asking that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a perfect segue. And that's a great question.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for that. Yeah, So to clear up not
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Speaker 3: only Bob's question and the confusion, no matter how wide
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Speaker 3: a street is, and we used off air, we were
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Speaker 3: talking about the example of Broad Street for example, that's
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Speaker 3: the widest street in Columbus, where certain parts of Broad
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Speaker 3: Street are four lanes both ways eastbound, westbound, and if
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Speaker 3: a bus is stopped, regardless.
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Speaker 2: Of which lane it is in, once.
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Speaker 3: That bus has stopped and that stop sign is activated,
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Speaker 3: all lanes of traffic going the same way and the
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Speaker 3: opposite way has to.
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Speaker 1: Stop unless there's like one of those concrete islands between
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Speaker 1: eastbound and westbound and northbound and southbound. If there's no
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Speaker 1: concrete divider, no, no structure dividing the road, you have
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Speaker 1: to stop on both sides.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 3: So short of a freeway in Columbus, there aren't many
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Speaker 3: streets that I can think of that have a concrete
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Speaker 3: barrier that would require you to or allow you to
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Speaker 3: keep going regardless of if you're going to the opposite direction.
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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you very much, clear us up question.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the question, Tom. I appreciate you listening.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Let me ask you real quickly,
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Speaker 1: let's make the sake from school buses to emergency vehicles,
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Speaker 1: same situation. Does everybody stop on both sides in that
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Speaker 1: same scenario if a police car an ambulance is coming
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Speaker 1: down the street.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another great question.
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Speaker 3: And that's one of the things, especially for people who
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Speaker 3: may not have always lived in Ohio, because every state
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Speaker 3: has different laws and regulations as it relates to emergency vehicles,
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Speaker 3: but specifically here in the city of Columbus, and it's
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Speaker 3: a state code as well. When emergency vehicles, whether it's
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Speaker 3: an ambulance, a police officer, or any emergency service, when
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Speaker 3: they are driving, you are to try to pull over
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Speaker 3: as close to the edge of the roadway as possible
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Speaker 3: and you are to stop until that emergency vehicle passes you.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of times, you know, in our job,
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Speaker 3: specifically for officers, it's very stressful when we are trying
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Speaker 3: to get from point A to point B, when someone's
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Speaker 3: life is in crisis in that moment and we want
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Speaker 3: to make sure that we're doing everything to protect them
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Speaker 3: from whatever the situation is, that we beg drivers to
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Speaker 3: pull over as quickly as possible because you know, if
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Speaker 3: that was someone in your family that's in crisis for
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Speaker 3: whatever the reason, you would want to make sure that
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Speaker 3: we get there to help them come to a safe conclusion.
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Speaker 1: And the you know, if you can't get over, if
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Speaker 1: you're in the middle, you can't get to the far
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Speaker 1: left of the far right. Just stop cop coming up
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Speaker 1: behind you at ninety miles an hour. As long as
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Speaker 1: you are not moving, he can get around you. Just
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Speaker 1: don't be moving. Just don't people kill me with that.
19:38
Speaker 1: Let me just ease on over. No, don't ease on over.
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Speaker 1: Just stop. It's you're complicating things by it. And sometimes
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Speaker 1: this right here leaving this building. I brought this up
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Speaker 1: and I've yet to get an answer to this. There
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Speaker 1: are times when you can be ticketed at fault in
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Speaker 1: an auto accident when somebody else is actually breaking the law.
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Speaker 1: Exiting this here radio station is a prime example of that.
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Speaker 1: When you pull out on the fifth Avenue. Now that
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Speaker 1: they've cleaned it up and we don't have all the
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Speaker 1: shrubbery and stuff, it's a little easier to see. But
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Speaker 1: these yahoos would come out of Grand View and come
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Speaker 1: off of Dublin Road. This fifth Avenue is twenty five
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Speaker 1: out here, they come up through here sixty miles an hour.
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Speaker 1: They come around that bend, you pull out, you see
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Speaker 1: them way down there. Because you are judging traffic as
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Speaker 1: if people are obeying the law.
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Speaker 2: You don't.
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Speaker 1: You think you've got five and a half seconds, not two,
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Speaker 1: right before Yahoo hits you. But if Yahoo hits you,
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Speaker 1: guess what, You're still getting a citation for pulling out
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Speaker 1: into traffic like that, which I've always found it. They
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Speaker 1: have to be able to prove that Yahoo was speeding.
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Speaker 1: And since it's easier to say you pulled out into traffic,
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Speaker 1: you're getting the ticket.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, the way it's written, you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 1: And that's nuts. That's but we have to compensate for that.
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Speaker 1: And I say this, I people you know occasionally will
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Speaker 1: get upset with me. But I'm just I say what
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Speaker 1: I mean. I mean what I say. I don't try
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Speaker 1: to be offensive, but I observe the world around me.
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Speaker 1: We got way too many people in the city of
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Speaker 1: Columbus that came to the City of Columbus from places
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Speaker 1: that didn't even have paved roads, and we're expecting them
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Speaker 1: to play by the same rules. You need to drive
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Speaker 1: for them as well. You've got to be prepared for
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Speaker 1: their mistakes because they don't necessarily know. They might not
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Speaker 1: even have a license, maybe never took a test. You
21:24
Speaker 1: know they're here. I know they're here. So until somebody
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Speaker 1: handles it, we got to deal with it. That's what
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Speaker 1: it comes down to. And especially, you know again this
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Speaker 1: time of year, with the buses rolling and the kids
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Speaker 1: out there on the street, we need to be particularly
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Speaker 1: particularly protective of them because there are those who don't
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Speaker 1: even know to be protective of them. A two one
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Speaker 1: nine eighty six A two one WTV and Mike, you're
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Speaker 1: on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. How
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Speaker 1: are you?
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Speaker 6: I'm doing good. Thank you for taking a call. With
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Speaker 6: all due respect to the police officer. I'm looking at
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Speaker 6: page twenty two of the Digest and Motor Vehicle Laws
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Speaker 6: currently Vision Ohio Revised Code forty five to eleven point
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Speaker 6: seventy five. Now, this is the only thing that the
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Speaker 6: public actually gets to know the law by, okay, and
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Speaker 6: nowhere does it send anything about a concrete barrier, any barrier.
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Speaker 6: It only says that a road that is four or
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Speaker 6: more lanes wide that doesn't include a turn lane, only
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Speaker 6: four or more lanes. So two lanes, two lanes, double
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Speaker 6: yellow line. Only the traffic proceeding in the direction of
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Speaker 6: the bus has to stop. There is nowhere anywhere where
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Speaker 6: it says anything about a barrier or something like that.
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Speaker 6: So if what you're saying is true, how would the
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Speaker 6: general public for what that law is?
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Speaker 4: The Only thing we have to go by.
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Speaker 6: Is what's published by the State of Ohio putting out
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Speaker 6: the laws for us to know.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's does Ohio vary from Columbus? Does Columbus has
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Speaker 1: a different interpretation or of it?
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Speaker 3: No, So that's a very very good point by the caller,
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Speaker 3: And by no means am I saying that him looking
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Speaker 3: through the Ohio Revised Code is incorrect because I'm not
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Speaker 3: saying that.
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Speaker 2: I want to be with my words.
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Speaker 3: And there are differences depending on the municipalities.
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Speaker 2: Right, So, the Ohio.
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Speaker 3: Revised Code has certain laws and restrictions. The Columbus City
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Speaker 3: Code has laws and restrictions. Say, if we were in
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Speaker 3: Grove City, they may have different laws and restrictions.
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Speaker 1: So there's no law in Grove City. I'm just saying, right.
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Speaker 6: So again, but my honest point is if that is
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Speaker 6: the case, how could someone honestly be cited when the
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Speaker 6: only thing we have to go by for what the
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Speaker 6: laws are is what's published by the State of Ohio. Right,
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Speaker 6: that pull us over, and right it's a ticket for that.
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Speaker 6: How could we possibly be at fault because it's not
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Speaker 6: ignorance of the law. We are actually going by what
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Speaker 6: the published law is. You see the point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, absolutely see the point. And you're very fair
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Speaker 2: in your point.
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Speaker 3: And this is where, like I said earlier, where there's
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Speaker 3: frustrations with people that depending on what state you're in
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Speaker 3: and depending on what municipality. Now obviously we're talking laws
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Speaker 3: specific to the state of Ohio and Columbus, Ohio. So
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Speaker 3: with you looking through the Ohio Revised Code as opposed
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Speaker 3: to the Columbus City Code, the one thing I would encourage,
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Speaker 3: God forbid you ever got stopped for what you believe
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Speaker 3: is a correct code. That's what our court systems are for,
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Speaker 3: and you would have clearly a very viable option as
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Speaker 3: to why you should not have received a ticket.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would I think you'd end up going up
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Speaker 1: to chain there, Matt. Seriously, you could. You could essentially
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Speaker 1: change law in the entire state of ohiosolutely with something
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Speaker 1: like that.
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Speaker 6: If you ever that's because you know, because I always
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Speaker 6: follow the law, God forbid. I mean I always do that.
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Speaker 6: But I would have to legitimately make an argument that,
24:39
Speaker 6: you know, someone writing me a citation where I would
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Speaker 6: have no idea how to even know what that law is.
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Speaker 6: That's not ignorance of the law. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: You should? You should. I went down and argued a
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Speaker 1: couple of times.
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Speaker 6: I might question the I might question the validity of
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Speaker 6: a citation, perhaps a pull over slash warning, a questioning,
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Speaker 6: but a citation for that situation might be too far,
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Speaker 6: you might, that might go the wrong way.
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Speaker 1: In court, I went down and questioned a couple of
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Speaker 1: tickets myself. Both were for obstructed signage, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I I was sit here, look here it is, and
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Speaker 1: is that how it is? Yes, how it's been for
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Speaker 1: like a year? Okay? Yeah? And I walked away both times,
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Speaker 1: So that was wonderful. There's so I don't even want
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Speaker 1: to talk to this guy, some guyn Brian online?
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Speaker 4: Three?
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Speaker 1: What's up? Brian?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
25:25
Speaker 1: So sartet fuqua.
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Speaker 7: If I blast my music smoke weed as they f
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Speaker 7: the police, is that okay? Or do you discourage that?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 3: I would never want anyone to not be able to
25:36
Speaker 3: express their freedom of speech. So by no means would
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Speaker 3: I ever tell you what you could and could not say.
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Speaker 1: That depends on what elected office you hold too.
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Speaker 7: That's right, gentlemen, this is a great show. Chuck Brian
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Speaker 7: still here, President Turn Order Police, Capital City Laws nine.
25:53
Speaker 7: Thank you for bringing us starting to win start. You're
25:56
Speaker 7: one of the best in the business and it's a
25:57
Speaker 7: true pleasure representing people like you. And thank you for
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Speaker 7: bringing this awareness.
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Speaker 3: Well, thank you President Steel for those kind words. And
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Speaker 3: he is definitely our fearless leader of the Fraternal Order
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Speaker 3: of Polonius.
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Speaker 1: To sleep occasionally man mornings, afternoons, middle of the night,
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Speaker 1: den matter.
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Speaker 2: He's out there now, he's always out there fighting for
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Speaker 2: our people.
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Speaker 7: Well listen, sorry, people will tell you there are times
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Speaker 7: in our careers we pulled over people like that and
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Speaker 7: they're wondering why they got a ticket, and I'm like,
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Speaker 7: come on, man, really, nine ten times you're respectful as
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Speaker 7: long as you're doing nothing too egregious, you hand over
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Speaker 7: your documents. Nine at ten times you're sent away with
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Speaker 7: the warning. And that's just the fact.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, little common sense, a little common courtesy. It goes
26:37
Speaker 1: a long way. Oh my gosh, already, can you turn
26:41
Speaker 1: the clock back? Can I get another hour?
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Speaker 2: Really?
26:45
Speaker 1: All right? Zach's plain? I got Matt and Frank both
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Speaker 1: holding on it. Guys. I'll tell you what if you
26:50
Speaker 1: want to hang on, if you have particularly pertinent questions,
26:54
Speaker 1: I will have Officer Fook will talk to you off
26:55
Speaker 1: the air and answer your questions. But the music means
26:57
Speaker 1: it is time for me to fly. We'll do this
26:59
Speaker 1: again tomorrow night, beginning at six o'clock, and again I'll
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Speaker 1: end the show wishing it was two hours instead of one.
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Speaker 1: That's just the way I roll. I hope you'll be
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Speaker 1: here for this thing called the Power Hour on six
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Speaker 1: ' ten WTVN.