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Sean O'Connell Show w/Bill Riley - Full POD 3-27-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You've got print fugging appear now going on her now
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  Speaker 1: Unbelieve it all.
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe what I just don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe what I touch Shop Russell will get
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  Speaker 4: down at half court, stuck.
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  Speaker 2: To uncle three.
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  Speaker 1: So Stockton sends the Utah yessdy invY Finals.
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  Speaker 2: Robbie Russell now with a chance to send RSL Homes
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  Speaker 2: Cup champions. Saunder's on his line.
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  Speaker 5: Russell approaches.
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  Speaker 4: The two thousands God Champions, got sadig site. This is
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  Speaker 4: a special edition of the Sean O'Connell Show, hosted by
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  Speaker 4: Bill Riley on Utah's number one sports talk and your
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  Speaker 4: Home of the Utes ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
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  Speaker 4: one FM, brought to you by Big Willies.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: Here's three times Utah Sports Broadcaster of the Year and
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  Speaker 4: Voice of the Utes.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley. Well, hey there, good morning, and welcome in
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  Speaker 2: a very special edition of the Shat O'Connell Show. I
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  Speaker 2: am Bill Riley filling in in the air chair for
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  Speaker 2: the first time in six hundred and thirty seven days. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I sure hope this is like riding a bike because
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  Speaker 2: it's been a minute since I've been here. Hey, how
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  Speaker 2: are you this morning? I am live today at Wassatch
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  Speaker 2: Front Kia in Ogden, seven to seventy West Riverdale Road.
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  Speaker 2: I will be up here till two o'clock today telling
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  Speaker 2: you all about their March smarkdown Mania, which is going
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  Speaker 2: on right now at Wassatch Front Kia, and maybe we'd
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  Speaker 2: have a little fun on a Friday. A big thank
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  Speaker 2: you to Sean O'Connell and all the good folks at
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  Speaker 2: ESPN seven hundred for inviting me back to fill in
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  Speaker 2: and pinch in to pinch hit today for Sean. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be back here from time to time. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna be back a bunch, but I'm gonna be back
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  Speaker 2: here from time to time when Sean and or maybe
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  Speaker 2: Spence goes on vacation or has something to something to
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  Speaker 2: do that takes them away from the air chair. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad to be back with you today. And
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  Speaker 2: also a big thank you to my bosses at the
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  Speaker 2: University of Utah now who gave me the blessing to
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  Speaker 2: come back on the air and talk to you guys
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  Speaker 2: just a little bit as well as we are live
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  Speaker 2: today in in at Wassatch Front, Kia. Hey, I miss
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  Speaker 2: you guys. I would love to hear from you today.
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  Speaker 2: Give me shoot me a text message eight seven seven
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  Speaker 2: three five three zero seven hundred let me know how
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  Speaker 2: you're doing. If you're up here in O Town today,
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  Speaker 2: come on buy and say hi. Uh. We're doing a
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  Speaker 2: little March Madness shoot off today. We're giving away Posts
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  Speaker 2: Malone and Jelly Roll tickets. Yeah, Posting and Jelly are
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  Speaker 2: coming back to rice ecl Stadium in July. Uh for
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  Speaker 2: the next three hours. We've got a basketball hoop set
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  Speaker 2: up here at Wassatch Front, Kia. And so the person
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  Speaker 2: that knocks down the most shots is it most shots
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  Speaker 2: in a row?
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  Speaker 6: Guys?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Whoever? Just make some shots?
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  Speaker 2: So come up here. I'm not in charge of this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not Alyssa's in charge of this, Spencer's in charge
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  Speaker 2: of this. I have no I'm just inviting you to
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  Speaker 2: come up and try to win some Post Malone and
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  Speaker 2: Jelly Roll tickets here at Wassatch Front ke and maybe
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  Speaker 2: then kick the tires on some of the great twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six Kia deals they've got going right now during
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  Speaker 2: their March Markdown Mania up here at Wassatch Front Kia.
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  Speaker 2: So welcome into the program. Shoot me at text if
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  Speaker 2: you like two eight seven seven three five three zero
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred. As I said, I've missed chatting with you.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully some of you have been catching the podcast I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing for about nine ten months now. It's called
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  Speaker 2: Crimson Corner. You can find it where you get your podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You can find it at Spotify and iTunes. You can
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  Speaker 2: find it at Utah Utes dot com. I do it
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  Speaker 2: every week and usually drops on Wednesday. As you can
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  Speaker 2: tell Crimson Corner, we're talking a lot about Utah sports,
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  Speaker 2: spring football, basketball, whatever's going on on campus. So you
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  Speaker 2: could catch me there each and every week. And if
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  Speaker 2: maybe you'd been sitting around for the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: years wondering where the heck I went to, well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: enjoying my new full time gig as Director of Broadcasting
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  Speaker 2: at the University of Utah. In fact, tonight as part
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  Speaker 2: of that gig, I'll be calling the baseball game. If
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  Speaker 2: if you've not been out to the new baseball stadium
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  Speaker 2: up on the campus at the University of Utah, Charlie
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  Speaker 2: Montford Field at America First Ball Park, come on out
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. The weather should be fantastic, so come on
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  Speaker 2: out and say hi. We'll be out there this weekend
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  Speaker 2: doing the games with Kansas State in town and that's
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  Speaker 2: part of my new duties as director broadcasting. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy to be back in the airchair filling in for
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  Speaker 2: Sean today. Sean's gonna join us a little bit later on.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's in Pittsburgh today, which I was in
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago when the utes played
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  Speaker 2: down at West Virginia Basketball. There's no direct flights to Morgantown,
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia. You kind of had. It's a very indirect route.
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  Speaker 2: We had to go Cincinnati to Detroit to Pittsburgh and
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  Speaker 2: then drive an hour and fifteen minutes to Morgantown. Sean
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  Speaker 2: will join us from Pittsburgh today in the one o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 2: Today's officially opening day for Major League base I know
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  Speaker 2: they've played games the last couple of days, but today's today,
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  Speaker 2: we're just about everybody plays in Major League baseball. So
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk some major League baseball because it's trending
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  Speaker 2: in the direction that Utah in Salt Lake City are
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  Speaker 2: going to get a major League baseball franchise. I mean
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  Speaker 2: everything you read, people that I talk to, and I
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  Speaker 2: still talk to a lot of people really feel like
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  Speaker 2: Utah is gonna get a major League Baseball franchise. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the guys that's part of that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Baseball Utah and big League, big League Utah, is Dale Murphy.
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  Speaker 2: Murph's actually opening night tonight for the Atlanta Braves playing
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  Speaker 2: my beloved Kansas City Royals. So Murph's gonna join us
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  Speaker 2: a little bit later in the show today. Gordy Chiasa,
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  Speaker 2: my good friend, my pale, you know him, you love him.
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  Speaker 2: He has continued on with Sean, which is great, but
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  Speaker 2: I could not, in good conscience come back and sit
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  Speaker 2: in this chair for three hours and not talk some
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  Speaker 2: ball with my guy, Gordy Chiasa. Gordy will be on
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  Speaker 2: with us at about eleven thirty today and he promised
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  Speaker 2: me a good list today, So we'll do that, and
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  Speaker 2: then Matt Meilbach, a college basketball insider in analyst with
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  Speaker 2: NBC Sports in Peacock, and of course Matt was a
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  Speaker 2: great Arizona Wildcat, gonna talk a little bit about the
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  Speaker 2: brackets his beloved alma mater. The Arizona Wildcats advanced in
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  Speaker 2: dominant fashion. I mean, they beat a really good Arkansas
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  Speaker 2: team handily last night. Houston got bounced last night. That
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit of a little bit spright. Nebraska
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  Speaker 2: got bounced by Iowa. Iowa now gets to wear that
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  Speaker 2: Cinderella slipper as the ninth the highest seed that's still playing.
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  Speaker 2: They're into the Elite eight. Ben McCollum is a really,
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  Speaker 2: really good bad Anyway, we're gonna talk all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: college hoops, and I want to get Matt's thoughts too
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  Speaker 2: on because he saw Utah play two or three times
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  Speaker 2: this year, he would get a handful of games that
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  Speaker 2: were on Peacock and Matt did some of those games.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to get his thoughts on Alex Jensen's
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  Speaker 2: first year and some of the things that he saw
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  Speaker 2: and what you know, where Utah goes this offseason with
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  Speaker 2: rekind of retooling the roster just a little bit to
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  Speaker 2: be more competitive, competitive in the Big twelve this year.
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  Speaker 2: So Matt Mulebox's going to join us. We've got plenty
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  Speaker 2: to talk about today. We're gonna dive into a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of Utah basketball. We are gonna talk plenty of
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  Speaker 2: spring football today on the program as well. I was
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  Speaker 2: up at the press conferences the other day. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: Spence and I saw Porter up there the other day.
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  Speaker 2: All the assistant coaches were made available and some good
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  Speaker 2: inside And because of my new position at the U
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  Speaker 2: and obviously it's Voice of the Utes, I've had a
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  Speaker 2: chance to sit down with Kevin mcgibbn, the new offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: I had a chance on my podcast. If you've missed
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  Speaker 2: any of those, you can go find them at the
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  Speaker 2: Crimson Corner. I had a chance to sit down with
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  Speaker 2: Colton Swan a couple of weeks ago, the new general manager,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Derazzio. So I've got a pretty good feel for
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  Speaker 2: where things are right now with Utah football as well.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll give you with spring football underway five practices now,
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  Speaker 2: I think six to be beginning today, it's really kind
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  Speaker 2: of get to know you time up there. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk some spring football with the program as well,
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  Speaker 2: and again I would love to hear from you guys
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  Speaker 2: on the program eight seven seven three five three zero
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred as we broadcast live today from Wassatch Front
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  Speaker 2: Kia on Riverdale Road here in Ogden. Come by and
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  Speaker 2: see us here seven to seventy west, kick some tires
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  Speaker 2: on the twenty twenty six Kia K four LXS, the sportage,
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  Speaker 2: the Tell Your Ride. They've got great deals going on
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  Speaker 2: right now and while you're here, shoots some baskets and
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  Speaker 2: attempt to win Post Malone and Jelly Roll tickets. The
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  Speaker 2: contest only goes on while we're here today. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a hoop set up here on the showroom floor, got
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  Speaker 2: a basketball here as well. Spencer and Alyssa are running
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  Speaker 2: that whole show, so anyway, it'll be great, So come
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  Speaker 2: on up and see us. I'm thrilled to be here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy Sean gave me the blessing to sit in
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  Speaker 2: for him while he's out today, and I'm really looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to catching up with you guys, talking to Gordy,
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  Speaker 2: talking to Sean, talking to Murph and Matt and just
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  Speaker 2: kind of chopping it up with you guys a little
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  Speaker 2: bit today. By the way, has anything happened really and
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  Speaker 2: truly since I was last on the air doing this show.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's only been six hundred and thirty seven days.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wait, We've got a hockey team that's playing right now, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we do. Yeah, we've Actually when I was last on
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  Speaker 2: the air, they didn't physically exist yet on the ice
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  Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City. By the way, they're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a playoff team. It looks like this year. I actually
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  Speaker 2: went downtown last night and watched them play the Capitols.
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  Speaker 2: They lost seven to four. It was great, eleven goals.
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  Speaker 2: There must have been about seventeen different fights last night.
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  Speaker 2: Got to see Alexandro Ovechkin, which will probably be Ovi's
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  Speaker 2: He isn't moving great and he did have a hat
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  Speaker 2: trick last night, but I'm not sure Ovi's got much
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  Speaker 2: more left in him. So we've had a hockey team now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Our NBA team botched their tank job a
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  Speaker 2: year ago and now they're trying to tank again, So
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  Speaker 2: that's not really new. The Jazz still aren't real good
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  Speaker 2: right now. A new basketball coach at the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 2: Since I last left. Oh yeah, a new football coach
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  Speaker 2: at Utah since I was last on these airwaves as
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  Speaker 2: well the Morgan's Galley are I guess I'm technically still
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  Speaker 2: on the airwaves because I make weekly appearances with Sean,
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  Speaker 2: with Spence and I do the games here, but actually
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  Speaker 2: hosting the show, so that there's been a little bit
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  Speaker 2: that's happened since the last time I was on the
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  Speaker 2: airwaves with you guys. So I'd love to talk about
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  Speaker 2: anything that may be on your mind today and whether
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  Speaker 2: it's current stuff or anything that's going on at the
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  Speaker 2: you or any of that good stuff. Just hit me
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  Speaker 2: up with the text at eight seven seven three five
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  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred as we broadcast live today from
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  Speaker 2: Kiya Kiya Kia. Wasatch front Kia here on Riverdale Road
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  Speaker 2: in Ogden, and we'll kind of go that way again.
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  Speaker 2: Todd trout Wine, thank you for the text, Todd. Todd says,
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  Speaker 2: great to hear you again. We miss you. That intro
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  Speaker 2: brought back so many memories. I love that intro. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for saying that, Todd. It's great to be here
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  Speaker 2: and it was. I love it when even Spencer Sean
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  Speaker 2: will just even play the YouTube music coming in so
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  Speaker 2: that's great. Derek the mail man, Oh hey, Derek, what's up?
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  Speaker 2: My favorite male man in Utah County says, want to
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  Speaker 2: be one of the first to welcome you back for
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  Speaker 2: the day. Hope you're doing well. Happy for this me too, Derek.
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  Speaker 2: I am too. I'm so happy to be back here
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  Speaker 2: talking sports with you guys. Text message in, Hey, Bill,
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  Speaker 2: great to hear the voice of the utes, back of
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  Speaker 2: the airwaves. Fall can't come soon enough to hear you
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  Speaker 2: calling those Utah football games again. I agree. I mean
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  Speaker 2: how many days till we have Utah football. Let's make
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  Speaker 2: that exact right now, till September third. We only have
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty days. One hundred and sixty days
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  Speaker 2: until Utah football, if you can believe that. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: the text message. Calvert Norton says, howdy Bill, great to
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  Speaker 2: hear you back on that fifty thousand wat blowtorch. Me too.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to be back here on ESPN seven hundred
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  Speaker 2: and ninety two point one f M. I'm only sad
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  Speaker 2: that we don't have the YouTube set up here today.
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  Speaker 2: If I was in studio, you guys could watch me
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  Speaker 2: doing the whole YouTube thing. Maybe my next time that
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  Speaker 2: I filled in for Shanna for Spence, he'll be back
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  Speaker 2: in studio. We could do the YouTube tube thing too,
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  Speaker 2: Derek says, Hey, Bill, I'm not gonna lie. Hearing that
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  Speaker 2: opening and hearing your voice again was good enough to
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  Speaker 2: bring a little tear to the eye. It's good to
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  Speaker 2: hear you again, Derek. Thank you. I'm happy to be back,
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  Speaker 2: I really am. I'm happy to be back and just
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  Speaker 2: feeling again, not back full time, happy to be back
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  Speaker 2: and be part of the you know again, part of
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  Speaker 2: the extended family here and doing all that stuff too.
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  Speaker 2: So text message in here from eighty seven eighteen says Bill,
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  Speaker 2: great to hear your voice again. Love to know your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on the Huntspin renovation capacity. I hate to see
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  Speaker 2: it reduced when it was used to being no problem
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  Speaker 2: to fill it up. Even with most of the students
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  Speaker 2: living off campus. A winner will easily fill fifteen thousand seats,
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  Speaker 2: and all those additional students on campus, well, a winner
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  Speaker 2: will certainly help. There's no doubt about that. And that's
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  Speaker 2: Alex and Wes and those guys. Number one number one,
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  Speaker 2: you know kind of goal right now is to get
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  Speaker 2: Utah back to being that winner. Fifteen thousand seats is
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  Speaker 2: a lot. It really is. There are very few arenas
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  Speaker 2: in the country today that fill up fifteen thousand seats
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  Speaker 2: on a regular basis. But the really big thing about
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  Speaker 2: the Huntsman Center renovations is it's about bringing it up
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  Speaker 2: and making it a little bit more modern. Don't think
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  Speaker 2: about the seat capacity. Think a little bit about premium
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  Speaker 2: seating and amenities in there, in some of those things.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what this renovation is going to be about.
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  Speaker 2: As much as I know everybody's focused on how many seeds,
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  Speaker 2: it's about the in arena experience. It's about the It's
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  Speaker 2: about creating that great in arena experience. I'll just use
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  Speaker 2: this as as an example. Baylor has an arena called
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  Speaker 2: Foster Pavilion. Baylor's been the best program in the Big
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  Speaker 2: Twelve right there with Kansas for the last decade plus.
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  Speaker 2: And they built their new facility about three or four
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  Speaker 2: years ago. Baylor built the facility and this is a
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  Speaker 2: program that has been that has won a national championship,
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  Speaker 2: been to final fours, one Big Twelve titles. How many
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  Speaker 2: se they have in their brand new arena. They have
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  Speaker 2: seventy five hundred seats seventy five hundred. Now, I know
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  Speaker 2: Baylor's enrollment isn't as big as Utahs. I get that,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a basketball schools. That's what they have created
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  Speaker 2: at in Waco. Scott Drew's been fantastic. But what they've
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  Speaker 2: done is they have created a ton of premium seating
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  Speaker 2: and kept good student seating as well, and put a
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  Speaker 2: lot of great amenities in there in their arena. So
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  Speaker 2: I would just say this, Alan, don't get too focused
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  Speaker 2: on the number of seats in fifteen thousand. If it
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  Speaker 2: drops down to eleven thousand, that's not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: Create a little demand, fill the place up, but also
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  Speaker 2: create that great in arena experience too at the John M.
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  Speaker 2: Huntspin Center. Thanks for the text message. Appreciate it. Eight
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  Speaker 2: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Texter. Oh Danny,
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  Speaker 2: Hey Danny, Danny says, what year is this Bill is
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  Speaker 2: in the house. It's a little flashback. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a flag. We've gone into
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  Speaker 2: the time machine today. Thanks Danny. This text message in
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  Speaker 2: from twenty eighty six. Hey Bill, good to hear you
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  Speaker 2: back on the radio again. We'd love to get your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on Utah football in twenty twenty six. Also, we'd
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  Speaker 2: love to get your thoughts on the news last week
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  Speaker 2: and how things went down. Well, we are going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the next about twenty twenty six in football.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I've got some stuff for you spring football related.
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  Speaker 2: If you've listened to my podcast on a regular basis,
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  Speaker 2: I am a firm believer in this. Every week for
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  Speaker 2: about the last couple of months, I've taken somebody's way
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  Speaker 2: too early top twenty five and I've kind of dissected
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  Speaker 2: it way too early top twenty fives. We all know this.
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  Speaker 2: We all know this. They don't mean anything, but they
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  Speaker 2: give you an idea of what football people, people that
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  Speaker 2: cover the sport of college football think of your program.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing matters, even the even the ap pole that comes
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  Speaker 2: out in August doesn't mean anything because we've got the
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  Speaker 2: College Football Playoff Committee. That pole is the only pole
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  Speaker 2: that really matters. But I have been saying this since
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  Speaker 2: really when Morgan took over and watching what they did
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: in the portal in who they brought back, I think
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Utah is going to be very very good this year.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: They were very very good. A year ago. They were
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: a couple of bad plays away really from playing in
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: the Big Twelve championship game. Credit BYU. They did great
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: work and took care of business, but at the end
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: of the day, they were a couple of plays away.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: BYU took care of business and they got to play
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: in that Big Twelve. But they were eleven and two
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: last year. That was a really good year the Scout.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about this with the spring football and
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I'll give you my thoughts on things, but the Scalley
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: transition has been a really smooth one on the football
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: side of things. There is a great vibe and a
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: great energy in that building right now. They brought back
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: huge building blocks, not one, but two starting caliber, high
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: level quarterbacks. They brought back a bell cow tailback. They
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: brought back and they added wide receiving weapons. They have
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: playmakers on the defensive side of the football like Jackson, Benny,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Elijah Davis, John new Hall, all of those guys. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be really good. Most of
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: these way too early top twenty fives have Utah anywhere
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: from mid twenties to late teams, and I think that
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: that is right.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I just I think that's right, because they are. They
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: do have some holes, They've got a fill, They've got
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: an offensive line that they've got to rebuild. I love
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the addition of Jordan Gross as offense is the offensive
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: line coach. I really do. I think Jordan is going
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to do great things in that room. And there's good
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: talent that was brought in. Everybody knows about Levin Obot,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the five star recruit, but there were guys that came back.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing you need to know. When the portal
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: opened and you know, and there were coaching changes and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Jim Harding left to go with Kyle to Michigan, the
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: offensive line didn't lose anything. The guys that were there
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: came back. So that tells you what they think of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Jordan Gross. But I think there's good talent there. They
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: also brought in, you know, Cedric Jefferson from Montana State
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: who played and won a national championshi at a high level.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I just like what they have there. But back to
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: my original point, back to twenty twenty six, I think
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: where they fall in those way too early top twenty
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: fives in those in that kind of late teams is
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: about right. I just I feel like they are among
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the best three. Some of those boy to early top
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: twenty fives have had Texas Tech in the top ten
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: feels a little high for me. By you just outside
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the top ten feels a little high for me. But
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I think those three programs, I think Houston's a team
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be interesting to watch. I think Arizona is
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a team that's going to be interesting to watch in
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Arizona State as well. I think those are the best
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: six teams in the Big twelve Conference, with Tech, Utah,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and BYU being kind of that top three, if that
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: makes sense. So we'll again talk a little bit more
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: about it as we go here, and I would love
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to hear from you guys as well on the text
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: line or other places with spring football underway. What's kind
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: of the big question you have as spring football begins
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: about this Utah football program? Is there a big question?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Is there a player or a position group, or just
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: kind of an overarching question you have about Utah football?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Shoot it to me eight seven seven three five three
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: zero seven hundred eight seven seven three five three zero
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: seven hundred. This text message in from twelve to sixty says, hey, Bill,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: miss your voice on my ride. As a diehard, you
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: fan faithful. I'd like to I'd like you to express
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: your top five takes from the new Utah football culture
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: with coach Scaley. What's your biggest worry for this team
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: next season? And what's your honest to say? I just
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I don't have any worries. Are there's a difference between
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: questions and worries. I don't think there's any worries. The
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: transition has gone very smoothly. Morgan had a plan and
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: he's implementing that plan now. He hired good assistance, They
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: shopped well in the portal to kind of restock their
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: roster a little bit, and they had good players coming back.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't have a worry. Questions, Well, sure there's questions.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: When I just talked about what's the offensive line going
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to look like? How did those pieces fit together? You've
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: got it's not like you're replacing one or did you're
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: replacing an entire offensive line? So this spring, how did
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Jordan Gross and Kevin mcgiven kind of kind of puzzle
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: piece that offensive line together? Who fits where? I also
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: want to know what's the passing game going to look like?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Devin was terrific last year. His numbers went up just
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: about everywhere, and again we now know that he was
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: dealing with some injuries throughout last year. So for him
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to have the type of year he had and the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: numbers that he put up with that type of injury
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: or injuries that he was dealing with, I think is fantastic.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: But how does it look with Kevin mcgiven?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: How does that pass game look with Kevin? Do they
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: push the ball downfield? They've got a really good trio
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: of three new wide receivers coming in Braden Pagan, Kylie
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Scholz and Ricky Johnson, and then you factor in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: guys who are coming back like Dadrin Zipperer and Larry
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Simmons and Creed Whittemore. I think that wide receiver room
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: could look good. But do they push the ball downfield
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a little bit more? Maybe than they did last year.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So I've got a number of questions, but I don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: have any worries about the team because I think they're
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: gonna be good. So you guys can share any thoughts
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: you might have for me. We'll read these text messages,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I promise, and the text line is exploding right now.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. It's great to hear back from you
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: guys as well. There's been a lot of fun coming
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: back here. We'll attack some more spring football stuff with you,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and I'll give you a few thoughts on position groups
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I'm watching, you know, some of the some of the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: conversations I've been able to have with some of the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: coaches on air and off air without giving away you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: obviously state secrets. There aren't really any, to be very fair,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: any state secrets given away in the spring, but you know,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about some of those conversations and how they go.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: So anyway, eight seven seven three five three zero seven
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• 23:40
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• 23:44
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• 23:46
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• 23:51
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• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to everybody for all the kind text messages that have
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: come in. This is not going to be a three
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: hours of hey, oh yeah, we'll read some and I
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: appreciate all the kind words. But well, we'll talk some
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: sports here today as well, and by the way, we'll
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: talk basketball. Year one of Alex Jensen, And there's something
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: else I want to kind of get into today. Maybe
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit about that with some of
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: our guests. Certainly going to talk to Dale Murphy about
• 24:21
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• 24:22
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• 24:23
  Speaker 5: But I.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just is Salt Lake City ready for another pro franchise?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: But this is more than just yeah, it would be
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: cool to have a Major League Baseball franchise here because
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: things appear to be trending in that direction right now.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: But is Salt Lake City ready? The market is pretty
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: full right now. Major league level sport, there's three. You've
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: got the Jazz, You've got the Mammoth, You've got RSL,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Major College, yeah, Utah BYU Utah State. And then you've
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: got the minor league sports, the Bees, the Grizzlies, the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Utah Royals. That's a lot of sports. But that's nine
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: professional sports, well nine major sports, basically franchises. And I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: want to talk to Dale about this because he's part
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: of the trust me. Anybody that knows me knows how
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: much I love baseball and how much I love Major
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: League Baseball. And I'm really excited this year because I
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: think my Kansas City Royals are going to be good.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if their World Series good, but they've
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: got the best young player in baseball not named Otani
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: or Judge in Bobby Wood Junior might be the best
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: all around player in baseball anyway. I love Major League Baseball.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I would love to see Major League Baseball come to
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. And it wouldn't probably be for three
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to four more years till we saw that franchise here.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But I just I worry about the other franchises. Does
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: anybody else suffer? I don't want to lose anything. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: don't want to be one of those markets that loses
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: a pro sports I grew up in one of those markets.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I grew up in Kansas and we lost an NBA
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: franchise when I was a kid, the Kings left Kansas
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: City and moved to Sacramento. I have friends from Seattle
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: that's still today, twenty what twenty two, twenty three years later,
• 26:24
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• 26:29
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  Speaker 2: Rich or Aldrich. Great to have you back. Getting a
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: little worried we haven't had many players enter the portal.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: On the men's basketball side, how are you feeling about
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the staff's ability to put together a better roster this offseason. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be better this year because they've got a
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  Speaker 2: they've got a running start on it. Wes Wilcox and
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  Speaker 2: I had a conversation with him on my podcast a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: He that's that's what he's been working on for months
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  Speaker 2: and months now. And just having been around that program
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  Speaker 2: and where they were the last month or two, I
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: know that they are all in on roster construction for
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: this offseason. Jordans. So I think you'll be uh, you'll
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you and most Utah basketball fans should be should be
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised. I think I think Alex and West and
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the staff are gonna do a nice job putting a
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: roster together. This one comes in from a Texter ten
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: third team says, Hey, Bill, we missed you. Glad to
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: hear your voice again. How do you rank the top
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: three players in the NBA Draft. I got to see
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: two of them in person. I got to see aj
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: de bonson person twice. I got to see Darren Peterson
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: in person once. I've watched Cam Boozer play a bunch
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: on TV. Just again. This is Bill Riley, not draft evaluator.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: His opinion. I think aj Debonsa is the best player
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: in college basketball, or the best possible prospect. He played hard,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: he was skilled, did his best to carry a team
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that was banged up over the last month of the season.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what draft needs. I don't know how
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: this is now my prediction, but I rank it to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Bonsa one Boozer too, Peterson probably three. There's a lot
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: of questions about Peterson that I don't necessarily have the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: answer for that. Maybe NBA teams are going to be
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: able to get the answer for when they do physicals
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and do meetings and stuff like that. Darren Peterson is
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a talent. He was just a bit of a mercurial talent.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: He showed you flashes and glimpses, and I just know
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: talking to friends of mine and family that are huge
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Kansas fans and work around the program, it was almost
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: kind of a tease you kind of a year because
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: they didn't know when he would be in and out
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: of the lineup. But Debonsa is so very good and
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: cam Buser is so very good as well. Both those guys,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I think we'll step in and help their teams from
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: day one. I don't know it as well as our
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: next guest. He is my friend of twenty four years,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: twenty five years now. I've been in Salt Lake City
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: twenty five years now, and I met him a couple
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: of weeks in and I couldn't come back on the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: air today filling in for Sean without having him on
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the program. The Great Gordon Chiaza, love you dog.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: How are you Bill?
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: I'm doing well. Welcome back to on the air. We
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: appreciate it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: It's good to be back again. Let's let's tackle the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: question that was just asked to me on the text line, Gordy,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: we'll get into some other NBA and maybe some Marts
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: madness stuff. How do you a guy that's watched a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: lot of basketball and I don't know if you've done
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: a deep dive, but you talk to a lot of
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: people too, how would you rank the top three prospects
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: for this upcoming draft?
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: If de Anser won by far, because they were because
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: of his ability to create his own shot, no matter
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: no matter who who's guarding him. And also he's just
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: general unbelievable talent where he raises up and he can
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: look at that basket to make plays, and he can
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: rebound his position, and he is athletic in bouncy, so
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: he'd be number one Number two is a cam Booser
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: who's really highly intelligent mid block player, can make shots,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: he's got toughness, he makes his teammates better. He's he
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: can rebound in traffic, and he knows how to play
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: the game. He reminds me of a Domatas Sabonis with
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: much more skills the way he plays. And three you
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: will be Darren Peterson. Your point is role taking where
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: he's a knockdown shooter. There's question marks about him as
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: far as his ups and downs of not being there.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: The NBA people will do an unbelievable job of intel
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: before they draft him, but he's a major talent. When
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: you're picking one, two, or three, talent prevails. The fourth
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: guy should be Caleb Wilson, the Runnings of four men
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: from Carolina tar Heels who got hurt during the season.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: He's out again, major talent running the floor, can score,
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: and he will be absolutely great addition for any NBA team.
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: And the last one I'll mentioned to you, the fifth
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: pick should be a various a Cuff from Arkansas who's
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: a point guard about six one sixty two. Can get
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: in the lane almost like Alan Iverson, like toughness as
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: far as playing and so those are the five guys
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: that should it should be drafted high and then as
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: a staring right at those guys also if they get
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: luck with a lot of records.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So my question for you, Gordy is, and you talk
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: to NBA guys all the time, you're still in that
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: world on the periphery, how did they look at a
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: guy like what's the conversation behind the scenes about Peterson
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: and how do NBA teams view him you just mentioned
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknown questions they'll get get they'll
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: try to find out during this draft process. But why
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: do they view him right now?
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: They view him as that a major scoring talent, that
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: he can knock down shots and he when he is
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: that ball, you feel good about it. He can score
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: against good defense that's physical. And so now the question
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: is his character and they're going to do it unbelievable dive.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: I use the example of remember last year Bill with
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: Ace Belly, those reports that he was up and down
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: with Rutgers and that he didn't want to come to Utah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: and that was absolutely gardally false. That everyone says that
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: he's really a good young man and that he by
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: the way he can play and that jet. He's a
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: foundation for the jets. So sometimes you've got to just
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: go even deeper and deeper into the part about the
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: kids' family, etc. Who's advising him and all the things.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: Usually speaking, you're actual the coaching staff, the rival coaches,
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: you'll act, the training staff. You act the rival training
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: staffs and anybody around that might know that person to
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: give his information about intel and put it all together
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: and then go by your instincts if you think you
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: can coach him.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So my question for you, since you and I we
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: don't talk on the air together anymore, we talk and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: text off the air. We've seen sixty four games of
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Ace Bailey, fifty three as a starter, he's averaging about
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: twenty seven minutes a night. It's not quite the entire season,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: but we're three quarters of the way through it now, Gordy,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: almost eighty percent of the way through it. Give me
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: the Gordy chiasa NBA insider longtime coaches evaluation of Ace Bailey.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Nineteen year old Ace Bailey's first year in the NBA.
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: Success. Remember he turns twenty on August thirteenth. To add
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: to that, he's a nine to year old guy that
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: played in the NBA right now, and he is playing
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: absolutely well again talent wise, you feel good about it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: When he has that ball and he starts penetrating, he
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: raises up into a mid range jump shot. He can
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: shoot off top of the defense. So the Jets at
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: number five last year, they hit the jackpot of getting him.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: He's a foundational piece. He's shooting right now thirty five
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: point nine from threes, and he'll get bigger and stronger
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: as far as doing it. And he knows how to
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: play with the ball and without the ball. So he
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: gives the ball giving go old school give and gold cut.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: He tries to space out respace out as far as
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: the floor. Now, defensively he's gotting slightly better. He still
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: can't guard screening action, which most guys don't. Usually, speaking Bill,
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: most young players play offense too fast and defense too slow.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: With Ace, he plays offense moderate pace, which is really good.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: But his defense is still slow. Meaning what reacting positionally
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: understanding of when they get help when not give help
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: guard your position. So I say this all the time
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: is that don't judge like Ace Billy type people against
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: other guys in the NBA. Try to look at them
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: as far as their age group. So I tell us
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: a lot of times the NBA colleagues is that in
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: jazz basketball, Ace has to outplay Arman Thompson of the
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: Houston Rockets. That's the same position, sort of the same
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: age group between twenty and twenty four and sort of
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: questions philosophically, and Ace outplay someone like him three or
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: four times. In the next generation, we're going to find
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: out it's enough talent to do it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: Will he do it?
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: And that's coaching, and that's his own personal development, both
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: on and off the court. So I love this game.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: We're talking to Gordychiaza here on The shadow' Connall Show today,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Bill Riley filling in for Sean. We're live at Wassatz Front,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Kia today. There's a nasty little seven letter word that
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: nobody in NBA circles likes to hear say publicly, but
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: we all know that it happens. Gordy. It's tanking. The
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: NBA is trying to fix its tanking problem. Nobody likes
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: that seven letter word. Adam Silver doesn't like that seven
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: letter word, but we know that it happens. The NBA
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: presented three anti tanking proposals. What did you make of
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: what you solve those proposals? Are any of them possible
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: or good solutions to you?
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: The first one is yeah, I read it to you right,
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: just quickly, and I'll explained to you even more quickly.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: They're going to say there'll be next year possibly now.
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: I'll be voted by the border governors of the next
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: meeting this May, and the board of governors for the
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: listeners is the NBA owners. There'll be eighteen teams in
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: a draft lottery. They're receded seven through fifteen in each conference,
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: and they're going to flatten the odds with the bottom
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: ten teams as far as their record, will all have
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: a eight percent chance of receiving the first pick of
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: the draft. The remaining teams will have a twenty percent
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: chance of getting the first pick of the draft, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: that it will be it will be the order so
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: after the first ten then will be the order of
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: being drafted will be eleven through eighteen, and every team
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: will be in the lottery. So there will be eighteen
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: picks quote in the lottery, So which means that all
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: the teams that don't play in the playing tournament and
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: the teams in the playing tournament will be in the lottery.
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: Eighteen teams and the six teams from the Eastern Conference
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: and six from the Western Conference that made the playoffs
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: will not be in the lottery. That's the most solution
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: of it. They're probably going to tweak part of it also,
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: but they've got to stop this tanking built. I understand,
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: like you know, even the less forty years, so there's
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: teams that are losing at the end of the season.
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: But this started literally for some teams from bill after
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: their first month that they didn't want to win. I mean,
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: I have a real problem with that just from a
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: fan standpoint, And so the NBA is addressing it, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: you know why go also the TV partners saying, wait
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: a second, we didn't pay for all these billions of
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: dollars for one p thirty of teams not trying to win.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: It's Gordy. It's made the game itself an unwatchable product.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And to your point, it became an unwatchable product for
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: certain fan bases in November and December. That's that's a
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: horrible business model, especially when you consider what ticket prices
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: cost to go see one of those games.
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, very much, absolutely, and that is the reason
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: why that Adam Silbert, who was a very smart person.
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: You like to think that every team is try to
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: get the best product. Now, I get it. Some teams
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: look at it short term and then long term. I
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: understand that. But in the meantime, though, you have to
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: try to be somewhat competitive during the game. You know, again,
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: the catchword is is during the game. And they're gonna
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: address it right now because they're serious about it. And
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: whenever the MBDy gets serious about Remember it's called the
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: National Basketball Association, I call it the National Business Association.
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: This is a business and what it affects the business model.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: It's very longing to all the thirty owners and rightfully
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: so they should be the next part of that.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: There will be the.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Expansion as far as the NBA is going to expand
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: it in the twenty eight twenty ninth season, and so
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: they're saying very basically that they're exploring it right now,
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: so to be Seattle coming in and also Las Vegas,
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: and that each owner for the new ownership groups, I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: assuming we've probably hedge fund people and venture venture capitalists.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: As far as buying into a team is that will
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: cost them roughly between seven billion to nine billion dollars
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: to be invited to the party. Let's put it in
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: context and Jazz basketball. In nineteen seventy four, when the
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: Jazz started in New Orleans, the entry fee was thirty
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: two point five hvree was skimmy was six point five million,
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: six point five million, and nineteen seventy four for the
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: Jazz and New Orleans to become.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Part of the party, it's amazing where those right s
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: fees and things have gone. Do you do you like
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: both Vegas and see if they do expand I know
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you like Seattle. Everybody loves Seattle, Gordy, they should have
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: never you coached there the last year with the Sonics
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: and Bob Hill. That's a slam dunk. Should have never happened.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Do you like Vegas as another one too?
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, very much, absolutely, Yeah, Vegas, Vegas was I call
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: it the thirty first NBA city ready because all the
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: rockouts are there, are by the individual players, some league
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: is there, the play in swimming, the d season tournament
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: is there. Generally speaking that Vegas is a destination for
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: so many NBA fans, so it's ready to thirty first City.
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: Let's make it the thirty first franchise.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Talking to Gordychas here on the Shad O'Connell show today,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Bill Riley filling in with my good friend Gordon Chas.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: All right, we got to talk a little bit of
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: March madness before we get get out of here. Gordy.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I open up ESPN dot com this morning, and I
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: think Dan Wetzel is a fantastic writer. And I see
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: on the frontage of ESPN dot com Wetzel's column today,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: despite scandals, Rick Patino might be the best men's college
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: hoops coach ever. Well, I need to go to the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: source here, because you were on Rick Patino's staff at
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: the beginning. You know Rick, Well, you know all about
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: him as a coach and as a person and all
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. What do you make of that headline
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: that Dan Wetzel wrote this morning that he might be
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the best college coach ever.
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: Well, he's going to also add to that because there's
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: so many different schools and also decades, and that makes
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: it so interesting the ability for Rick to adjust with
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: the times, and he has, so he's in the top.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: He's in the top for five of all time, and
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: he's done it for much longer with different groups of people,
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: and had a bigger programs and also of smaller programs.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: So the answer is that's a very valid point. I
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: wouldn't say the best of all time because that's then
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: when I'm doing justice that Johnny Wooden or to a
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: coach k or to Bobby Knight, et cetera. Gean Smith,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: So that that's that's a that's an arbitrary word. But
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: he's absolutely in the conversation, which is great. What makes
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: bricks so interesting? And this game to me, build this
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: game tonight in Washington, d C. It's going to be
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: outrageous between that the Johnny's versus the Duke Blue Devils,
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: and the question right now will be can Duke with
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: a really tremendous all around talent. It's going to be
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: a back alley fight, and so we'll duke the nest
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: players right to their challenge. They will go against Saint
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: John's who who are going to start fighting fighting Klorin
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: with that press and trap defense to get them off strike.
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: And that's going to be a great game. I'm looking
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: forward to it, and both teams are really well schooled.
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: And the question is, as always, what team Bill can
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: finish through contact when they starts fouling you. Yes, right,
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: So you drive to the basket, they bump you. You've
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: got to be able to finish at the rim and
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: make shots. So Cam Boozer is going to be challenged
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: tonight by Zubie Atcher four. It's going to be interesting
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: babbushing both those guys.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: So you know what I love about March Madness. Scoring
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: meant so many things I love about March Madness. But
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you see different coaching styles and different playing styles that
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: maybe you don't see during the year. Look at a
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: guy at Iowa like Ben McCullum. In his first year there,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: five years ago, he was winning national championships at Division
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: two Northwest Missouri and Marysville, Missouri. Five years later, he's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: got Iowa into the Elite eight with not I mean,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: he's got one star player, but he's doing it with
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: a different style and getting it done. I love seeing
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: different coaches match up with different coaches and styles, well
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: they used to. They like to say styles make fights, right, Yeah, very.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: Much yet, And so with the Iowa Hawk guys, they're
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: playing with confidence and they move that ball around perimeter
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: and they're gritty on defense, and so is Purdue, and
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: so is Arizona. These teams are really well schooled. And
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: that's the power of I know, a matter of rejectives,
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: but the power of coaching is absolutely there. It's like
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: you always said about the NBA, as the myth people say, well,
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: in the NBA is very little coaching. Really say rot
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: really look at the better teams in the NBA. They're
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: coaching is superior. And you get in college basketball, you
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: get to the sweet sixteen, you know what you're doing.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: Often when you do lose, it's because you don't shoot
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: straight during that game where your shooters couldn't make couldn't
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: make open shots versus the constant pressure and harassment of
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: the defensive team against you. And that's where you have
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: to have the ability to score, to score through contact,
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: whether it's on perimeter or whether it's insight. But before
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: we get Bill, I have a list today, especially in
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: your honor.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, give me the list, Gordon.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: Here we go college coaches who have won multiple men's
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: basketball championships. So right on point about Dan West, so
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: you mentioned four about this is the two championships he
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: had to win at least two championships NCAA Basketball. It's
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: very short lists, and it starts back in the nineteen forties.
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: Hank Iva, Oklahoma State two championships, Paul Wilfrid University of
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: San Francisco two championships led by Bill Russell and Casey
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: Jones at Junkdown Cincinnati Bearcuts back in the nineteen sixties.
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: Billy Donovan, University of Florida.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: That's your guy, that's your guy.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: Gordy six absolutely six and seven. And maybe Bill maybe
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: the new coach of North Counta Tall Hills. Maybe it's
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: absolutely very possible. Dean Smith, Carolina nineteen eighty three, nineteen
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: ninety two, Jay Wright going over, tremendous coach twenty sixteen,
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: twenty eighteen, Rick Bettino, Kentucky nineteen ninety six in Louisville
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: two thy and thirteen, and you're gonna save me right now.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: But Gordy in Louisville, he got vacated the title. That's
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: your next word, right though, No, no, I.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Won't say that, because those games did happen.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: Okay, great Bill seth Ku eight and twenty twenty two.
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: Dan Hurly all right, Yu konn twenty three and twenty
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: four with three championships, Ray Williams, Bobby Knight, and Jim
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: Calhoun with four championships. Adolf Rupp Kentucky Wildcats, first time
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: nineteen forty eight, last time nineteen fifty eight with five championships,
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: which is the second all time. Coach k Duke nineteen
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: ninety one, nineteen ninety two, two thousand and one, twenty ten,
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: pardon me in twenty and fifteen. So Duke has not
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: won a championship in over ten years now this year,
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: if they don't win it this year will eleven years.
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: And the number one coach of winning the most ever
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: NCAA championships from UCLA Johnny Wooden. First year was nineteen
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: sixty four and the last year was nineteen seventy five.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: So that's my list today. How about NBA basketball. By
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: the way, the most NBA championships by a head coach
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: is Phil Jackson with eleven, six with the Bulls and
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: five with the Lakers. Thus, Bill Riley, welcome back. This
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: is my list of today.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Gordy Chiasa, I love your dog. However, I've got to
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: take a break here. I'll talk to you soon. Let's
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: get lunch.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: Thanks Bill, peace out, peace out.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: That's my good friend Gordon Chiesa with us here. We're
• 50:01
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• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Sam Ryder at six under, Jake Knapp at six under.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll keep tabs on that as we go here today.
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  Speaker 2: Great having you back for the day. Thank you so
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: much for that, Jordan. Clint Burdette, part of the Burdette Triplets, says,
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  Speaker 2: this is such a tease. Bill. We need you back
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  Speaker 2: on the radio so bad.
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  Speaker 6: Go you.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Clint, thank you for saying that. And he loves
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  Speaker 2: just happy to be able to be back here. So
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I just the fact that I get to fill in
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: for Sean from time to time or even Spence from
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: time to time makes me happy. So just we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: be happy with that. So thank you. But good to
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: hear from you. I saw your brother Blame not too
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: long ago too. Joseph Jarman says, happy opening weekend. Bill
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: still got PTSD from when your royals got my Angels
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: back at twenty fourteen. Great to hear you back on
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the radio again. Well, thank you. Appreciate that, Joseph. I
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: was there for one of those games. I was able
• 54:17
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• 54:19
  Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl that weekend. It was a Friday night.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: We flew into Burbank and we landed at five and
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the Royals and the Angels were playing Game one or
• 54:29
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• 54:33
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• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Burbank to Anaheim on a Friday afternoon at five o'clock
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: in LA traffic? Well, I got there middle of the
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: first inning. I don't know how I made it there
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: middle of the first inning, but I did. And my
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: good friend the deer and departed, who I missed dearly
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: all the time, especially this time of year with baseball season.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: My buddy Steve Klouke was there. We hung out for
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: a couple of innings together. The Royals beat the Angels
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: that night. It was a good Alds for me, Probably
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: not so much for Joseph. But anyway, thank you for
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• 57:32
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• 57:34
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• 57:37
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• 57:43
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• 57:46
  Speaker 2: era at the University of Utah. I thought we talked
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit about that and the March madness that's
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: going on right now. I got to see him a
• 57:52
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• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Or he came to The Huntsman too. He is now
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• 58:05
  Speaker 2: it's only appropriate to have him on an opening day
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: for baseball as the Royals play the Braves tonight. Matt Mulebach, what's.
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  Speaker 3: Up, Maddie, Hey, Bill, how you doing man? Thanks for
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: having me on.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: It's good to have you back on. And plus I'm
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: back on the radio today for the first time in
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: a couple of years. I had to have some of
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: my old my old favorites come back on and do
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: the show with me today.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Do you gonna have Yogi Roth And let's
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: see who else Yogi was.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Yogi's in Japan.
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I was, literally Yogi was gonna do the next segment.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: But Yogi's in Japan right now. He shot me a
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: text like fifteen hours ahead of time. He's like, I'd
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: love to do it, but I'm on. You know, Yogi
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: when it's not football season. That dude's travel in the
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: world with his family.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: He's out, he's doing They did like the Walk of
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: what was that Portugal or Spain? That big walk he did?
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: He did, Uh huh.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: He did a movie on it.
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  Speaker 3: He's an eclectic guy.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: We did. We debuted. That was years ago. We debuted
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the movie here in Salt Lakes City in tons of
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: football fans came out. I still have the movie poster
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: that he signed. It was really cool.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: That's cool, that's super that's awesome, man.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: So how are you? I mean? Matt for for those
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: that don't know, was an outstanding guard for lude Olsen
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: at the University of Arizona back in the day and
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I've said this from the beginning of the year, and
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: then when I saw him in person, it just reaffirmed it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Arizona's the best team in college basketball. Does that mean
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: they're gonna cut down the nets in a couple of weeks. No,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: it doesn't, because Matt knows that well because he played
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: on some really good teams. But boy, they flexed last night.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: They looked really good against a good Arkansas team. How
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: are you feeling about the Cats right now?
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Matt? You know, I feel good. You know, I think
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: they are. I think it's ZM or Michigan or the
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: two best teams. But as you pointed out, that doesn't
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: always mean you know you're gonna you're gonna get to
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: the Final four and or win it. And they got
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: a tough they got a really tough game tomorrow, and
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: it's you know, basketball is not You mentioned baseball and
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: our royals. I mean I was saying baseball, right like,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: the momentum you get is as good as you're the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: pitcher the next day. And in basketball, I think there
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: is more to momentum. But at this stage, I mean,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: you know, Arizona, Purdue, they're in the Elite eight. Purdue's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: one seven in a row. They just beat Michigan last
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: week or two weeks ago, so you know this the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: one thing I fear for them is they played so
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: well last night. I mean, they like spanked Arkansas. They
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: just they had them in knots and and you you
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm just I'm a sports guy and the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: next athlete you worry sometimes is they're a leutdown after
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: a great game like that, because they really played well.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: And I'll say this, it was kind of interesting. You know,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Purdue played the Arizona a couple of years ago. Now
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: different players, and you know, but some of the players
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: are still there Purdue, of course, said Zach Edie. And
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: they took it to the Wildcats two years agoing to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: neutral site in Indiana, and a lawyer had five threes.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: I think Braden had had four. And they really kind
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: of they had them in knots. Because of that offense.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: They run and and and you know, Arizona's much bigger,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: they're more athletic. There's some things you'll you'd love as
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: an Arizona fan in this matchup. I will say this, though,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Purdue is the number one ranked offense in the country,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: number one and it's for a reason. And you know,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: they played in the Big Ten. It's not like they're
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: coming from a bad conference. So I think it's going
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: to be a really good game. I mean, I think
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: I think Arizona wins that game like six and a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: half seven out of ten times. But you know, look,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: you never know. It's it's and I'll say this last
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  Speaker 3: thing I'll say in the Elite eight, it is to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: me the scariest game of the of the year, because
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: you are one game away from kind of immortality. You
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: make a Final four. Pretty much any school, it's your immortal.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: You go up on the rafters. Other than UCLA, they
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: only hang you know, championship banners, but you're up on
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: the rafters. They'll remember your team for one hundred years.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: But if you lose that game, they forget about you,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: you know, two days later. So it's the weirdest game.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: And and so it's obviously a huge game in Arizona's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: it's been a while since they've been to the Final
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  Speaker 3: four that it's sort of like they need the monkey
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  Speaker 3: off their back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they never made it in the Sean Miller era.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I think the last final for Arizona made
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  Speaker 2: you correct me if I'm wrong. I think it was
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: two thousand and one, wasn't it Wasn't that the last
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Arizona Final four?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. They lost to Duke in the final
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: in that in that game, some incredible talent on both teams.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: But that is and you know, it's funny you bring
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  Speaker 3: up Sean Miller. I mean that the city was was
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: freaking out here in Tucson because they're they're just thinking,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: oh my god, you know, the ultimate irony. Sean Miller
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: never gets them there. You know, he leaves the program
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: and then and then then then they have to play
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Texas to get there in the final four, and Sean's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: in their way.
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  Speaker 6: But I was I was hoping.
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping, you know, for Arizona's sake, they played
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Texas because I just think produce much better. And that's
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: off to Sean for what he did to get that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: team as far as they did and get him a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: bucket or two away from the Elite eight. But it'll
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: it'll be a tough one. I mean, all these teams
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: now at this you know, isn't an amazing bill like
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  Speaker 3: how chalk the tournament is right now and how.
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  Speaker 2: Except Iowa, I think except Iowa.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: Except Iowa that was at fourteen of the top seventeen
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: kin Palm teams made the Sweet sixteen. It's one of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: the most incredible chalk things I've ever seen. And I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: think one of the differences I'd like to hear you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: you know, you're of course the NIL is changing that.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of objectivity around that. I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: think the other thing is this the kin Palm site
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: and these metrics sites have have have identified the team
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: so well that now the committee has such an easy
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: job of seating teams. And for years I think we've
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: seen some really bad, egregious seating because people just don't
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: know what their teams, they don't have enough time to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: see him, they don't really know how good they are.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: But the kin Palm site and the others I think
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: really like like do it so well. The seeding is
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: just as excellent this tournament, and so I think that's
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: the reason you'll see these weird you know. Five years ago,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd played Houston in the Sweet sixteen and they
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: were Tommy was a one seed with Arizona's his first year.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: At the end of the year, Houston finished the years
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: A two in kim Pom two the number two team
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: in the country, and they were a five seed. They
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: were completely mis seeded and so they beat Arizona in
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: that sweet sixteen. But you're not seeing that as much now,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: And you know, hats off to Kim pomp, to Kin
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Palm Roy for putting that together, because it's really done
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: a great job with the tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Kim Palm Roy Salt Lake City native. Ken lives right here.
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  Speaker 2: We occasionally see him pop up at Utah game, So
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: shout out to Ken Palm. He's done a fantastic job
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: and he's I mean, he's become synonymous with college basketball analytics.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Isn't that about that tonight's games? Let's do that real quick,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: because I I do want to ask you about Utah
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: basketball as we go into year two of the Alex
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Jensen era. But tonight you've got two ones and two
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: two's playing a six at three, a five, and a four.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: So what are your reads if you're looking at upset,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think you could call any of these up. Well,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: maybe one of them could be an upset, But if
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: you look at these games tonight, you're you're kind of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: feel for the Duke of Saint John's Michigan Bama Yukon,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Michigan State, Tennessee, Iowa state matchups.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think Duke's gonna win, but I will
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: say that's that's one where I could see an upset
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: I was in. I was in San Diego last week
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: and saw Saint John's play because they were in the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: same pod as Arizona, not the same bracket, but it
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: was by the way, it was so cool to see Patina,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: like he roams the sideline, is like such a gangster
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: in his suit and just like he's super cool. And
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: they play so hard though they played really hard, and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: I think that'll give Duke problems. Duke's had a little
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: bit of some injury stuff, but I think over at
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, I think Duke's and but
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I think that'll be a good one. I would not
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: be surprised if Saint John's wins that I think Michigan's
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: going to roll. I put some people have said they'll
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: struggle with the way Alabama scores and so forth. I
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: just think Michigan's too good. The other one, I love
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: the Michigan State Connecticut. That's just a coin toss. I mean,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: it's going to be like, that's gonna be.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Like first team to fifty five might win that game.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: That's that's right. That's that's a preview of of of
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Utah football coming up for this year. So it's going
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: to be incredible. The offensive rebounding, the screen set in
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: that game is going to be incredible. I think Iowa
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: States got to That's an interesting game for them because
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Tennessee has the same style and and i Alowa stay without.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: I think Joshua Jefferson is not playing, if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen that yet.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: He was.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: They were calling him a game time decision. But even
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: if you're a game time decision, you're probably seventy seventy
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: seventy five percent best.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a that's a scary one. If
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: I'm always stated, I think that's I know they're favored,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: but I think it's more of a pick them because
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: of the way the two teams play you and I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: I was, in fact, I was doing that Utah game
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: in Salt Lake when I was State was there, and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: I think they're talented, they're good, but what really drives
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: them is their defense. They play insane. They're Houston esque
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: how they play defense, but Tennessee is exactly how Tennessee plays.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: So I think that's going to be a match of
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: exactly the same styles, and so that'll be a fun game.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: In terms of the score, I think it'll be that's
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: going to be down to the wire.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I there's something about this Iowa State team and the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: fact that what they did in that last round of
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: thirty two. They play so hard, they guard so well.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Those two freshmen guards are terrific. I think they shoot
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: it better overall than Tennessee does too. And if they
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: can get Jefferson, even if they can get fifteen minutes
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: out of Jefferson on the floor, but if they got
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: by Tennessee and got him healthy in the Elite eight,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I like that Iowa State team a lot, Matt. I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: know Jefferson such. I mean, he's the lynchpin to everything
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: they do, but they functioned really well without him in
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: that last game.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I saw him play. I saw him
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: playing here in Tucson. But you go back to when
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: they played Arizona in the Big twelve. I mean they
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: were tied with seven seconds to go. So to your
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: point and Lipsy, by the way, Lipsey's one of the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: great great stories. Four year guy played at Ames High School.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: You got to root for guys like that.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an anomaly now, first to have a guy
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: for four years, but to have a hometown guy for
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: four years, We're not going to see that very much anymore.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: I think Arizona's got a kid that's from Tucson that's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: a transfer, but he doesn't play very much, but he's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: back for the program. And is he a kid from
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Harvard or something that came back to play for them?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Is that what it was? Yeah, they brought a kid
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: in kind of like their backup point guard, like almost
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: like their third point guard. Really good kid goes went
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: to South Point High School here in Tucson named Evan Nelson.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: I think he played four years at Harvard. So really
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: good story. But you know, Arizona is interesting because they
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: do have three outstanding freshmen. But you know, Jade and
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Bradley's a third year guy at Arizona. You know Prevoss
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: is a third year guy at Arizona, so that del
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Riso is a two year guy at Arizona. So they
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: do have they have a little bit of balance between
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: the transfers and between the freshmen.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: I said this, maybe I said it to you. I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: told my partner Sean Mooney all year long. I've even
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: told Wes and Alex because we talk offline all the time.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I think Tommy Lloyd's building philosophy is the perfect philosophy
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: for college basketball today. He's got two or three core
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: guys that have been in his program, Jayden, Bradley, Crevas,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: that have even Delorso a little bit, have been there,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: so they know what it is. The good players too.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Then he brings in two or three really good transfers,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: and then he supplements it. And granted it's Arizona, so
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get five star guys, but he's got two
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: or three really good freshman. Bury's Pete and I think
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Karchenkoff is so underrated before what he brings them. He
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't demand the ball, he guards whatever. But I think
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: it's the perfect mix of young transfers and program guys,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: and I think that's one of the big reasons they're
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: so good this year.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. I mean, no reason
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: to repeat. I agree with what you're saying, and I'll
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: add to that though. One thing that Tommy did I
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: mentioned that Houston game they lost. So in that game
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: they got beat up by Houston, right, they got kind
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: of man handled and and they I think Tommy recognized
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: that and he knew a year later, he knew they
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: were going to the Big twelve, and so he built
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: the team for the Big Twelve.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: And I've said this.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: I did a couple of their early games, and in fact,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: a couple of people thought I was crazy, but I said,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: this is the biggest strongest Arizona team I think in history,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: in this history of the school. And you know, a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: guy like a walk up off the bench who played
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: at Tennessee, you know, he could easily play for our Chiefs.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I'm in fact, I've I know some people in the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: front office there and I've actually, like not even jokingly, said,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: you guys need to look at him, like seriously, look
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: at him for defensive end or tight end or whatever
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: it is. But they're just so big and strong. They
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: just physically, you know, they wear teams down to the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: point of like, I think that's why if you watched
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: the game last night, Arkansas kind of lost their cool
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: and I think they got frustrated because they just because
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: they got manhandled by a bigger, stronger team. And that's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: what Tommy's done a great job. And I'll say this too,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: like you know, I'm I'm a I'm a Pack ten
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Pac twelve guy, you know, to heart forever because that's
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: where I grew up and that I mean, that's where
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: I played, and that's that was my that was what
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: I knew. And but the Big twelve has been a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: godsend for Arizona basketball. It's it's it's leveled up, not
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: just not just the talent, but like that, how you
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: put teams together. And I've always said for years, you know,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Looke put together and he won a title and went
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: to four final fours and was crazy successful, but his
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: teams were more of a Ferrari than an off road
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: you know, F one point fifty. And if you look
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: at the tournament, the tournament's a rock fight. The tournament's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: tom Izzo and Michigan State and offensive rebounding. And that's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: kind of what Tommy's put He's kind of melded a
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: Ferrari and a F one fifty together, and so I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: think that's the that's the blueprint for a great tournament team.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: All right, as long as we're talking about building teams.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Let's close it down with this. Alex Jensen will be
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: heading from year one to year two. They got a
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: little bit of a late start. Obviously. We all know
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: the portal officially opens April seventh, but it's been you know,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: it's like the NFL and Free The talks have been
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: going on for months and planning and things like that.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: They're better equipped heading into year number two. You got
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: to see Utah a couple of times in person. Roster's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: clearly going to be quite a bit different next year.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I think, think what where where does utak what? You know,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: if you're putting together a little checklist, Matt of becoming
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: a more improved Big twelve team, where would you start with?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: You Tug, give me a couple of bullet points or
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: a couple of areas where they need to upgrade this offseason?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: You know, I think I think I'll start with the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: where where I really liked him. I just, you know,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: had some time to talk to him. I think I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: had three or four games just understanding that he's there
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: for a reason, right, He's there to Utah to stay.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: He's not there as a stepping stone. He's building it
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: you know the right way. And I think that's to
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: your point answer your question. It's you've got to get
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: a few guys now that will start being in the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: system for a year or two, just like we talked
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: about Arizona, right, Bradley three years and he's your point guard.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: That's the type of thing you need. And I think
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: you know, look, I mean I think I just mentioned Arizona.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, the bigger, stronger team you can build off of.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: You know, I think Utah struggled defensively in the big well,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: I mean that was the area that probably was the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: biggest area. I mean, look, Alex knows how to coach,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: he knows offense. And I think the other thing too.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: You know, he's been in the G League, he's been
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: in the D League, he's been an assistant in the pros.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: He's he's kind of been all over the place. He's
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: you know, as a player that played overseas. I think
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: those kind of things are really good for this era
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: of basketball. Eric Musselman once said the G League rosters
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: don't change by the day, they changed by the hour.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: And and I think I think Alex will be prepped
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: for that, right, He'll and he'll learn, like like Tommy
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Lloyd's in this fifth year, and I think every year
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Tommy I've talked to him after the seasons, he's learned
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: like one thing that he took away, like I got
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: to fix that or I got to fix this right.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: And I think that'll be what Alex does. It's not
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: not that he has to learn basketball, it's just how
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: do I build my team? How do I keep building culture,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: you know, in the right way. He was obviously a
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Majeris guy. Culture, disciplined fundamentals. Doing things the right way
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: means a lot. And so you're just trying to recruit
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: as much as you can players that fit those roles.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: And now he has more time to do it. He
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: can see people, you know, he's got a little more
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: time to insert his system in terms of the system
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: and the process of how do I build my team,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: And that's that's almost as much now as coaching is.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: And so I think he'll be better out of this year,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: and he'll just keep getting better every year.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: It's good time to be Matt Mulebach because Matt is
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: a fan of the Ears of a Wildcats, that's his
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: alma mater. There's the best team in college basketball. He's
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs like me and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: our guy Patrick Mahomes was throwing the other day. We
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: saw some video of him throwing. He's gonna be ready
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: for opening day. And we've got the best all around
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: baseball player not named sho Heyo Tani in baseball playing
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: for the Kansas City Royals and Bobby Witt and they
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: opened tonight with the Braves.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bobby baseball man. It was how much fun was
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: that watching him in the World World Sils or whatever
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: and his defense and his all around play. And I'll
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: tell you what the Royals, you know, Cole Reagan's I
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: think goes today against who's the Braves? Uh uh?
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Sale Chris Sale, Sale.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: Chris Sale. That's going to be a hope of a start.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: And they've got some pitching so uh and and by
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: the way, Bill, we could talk for another hour. Our
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: ear fans wouldn't wouldn't love this. But she she she's
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: free agency. They killed it in free agency.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I loved what they did. They got the they got
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: the back they needed, and then they filled in nicely
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: with some really good players. And if fifteen's healthy and
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: ready to go and they draft. Well, in a couple
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: of weeks. We'll be back, Matt. We'll be back.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: We will be back.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: And like you said, Patrick Thrown, that feels good. So yeah,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: all systems go for me though. It's it's it'd be
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: a pretty big game tomorrow for Arizona fans and and
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: and their alumni, so it'll be It's scary, but it's fun.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: It's fun to be in the mix.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Hey, good catching up with he was great seeing you
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: this year. Thanks for coming on the radio with me today.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll grab you on the podcast Crimson Quarter podcast
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: and talks some Big twelve basket ball coming up once
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: everything kind of settles in a month or two in
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: the in the portal on the basketball side.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: Thanks Matt, Yeah, I look forward to it. Thanks Bill.
• 1:17:08
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• 1:17:12
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• 1:17:18
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  Speaker 2: Gordy and with Matt Mulebox. Sweet sixteen concludes tonight, you've
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: got four really good games. I should say three really
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: good games, and maybe I'm gonna reamend that again. Two
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: really good games and the potential for another one. I'm
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: kind of where Mulebach is. I think Michigan is going
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: to blow Alabama's doors off. Actually, Saint John's has enough
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: athleticism and Duke to be fair, hasn't played great in
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: the tournament. Maybe I think the Yukon Michigan State game
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: and I think the Iowa State Tennessee game are both
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: gonna be excellent.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna both gonna be excellent. And I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: think both of the Elite eight games tomorrow are gonna
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: be fantastic as well. I think Illinois and Iowa, and
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: normally Illinois is a scary good team. As a three seed,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: I think they could be terrific. I mean really really good,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: like national championship good with with the Reglar kid who's
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: a freshman, Arizona Purdue should be a good game. I
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: gotta say, though, I'm not as worried about that game.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: For Arizona, as my buddy Matt Mulebach seem to be,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: and maybe that's just him being an Arizona guy being
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: nervous about the matchup. Purdue is good. They've got good
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: veteran guards Fletcher and Smith. I mean, Smith's the all
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: time assist leader now in Kyle Much basketball. But I
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: just don't think they play at the same level and
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: intensity that Aras and I don't think they have the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: overall talent that Arizona does either. So that's your college
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: basketball today and tomorrow. Excellent games all over the place.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this before. Today's the first real day that
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: everybody is playing in Major League baseball. It was kind
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: of a Major League baseball now. It used to be
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: fun when you knew what opening day really was and
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: then you had a bunch of games. Now they do
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: kind of do the soft launch. What was it the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Yankees and somebody the other day played first and you
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: had a couple of games. Today's the day where just
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: about everybody's playing. We're going to talk some baseball, Major
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: League opening Day, but I also want to talk about
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake Major League baseball with Dale Murphy coming up
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: here in a little less than an hour. Murph's gonna
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: join He's actually in Atlanta today because the Braves, like
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: everybody else, loves loves Dale Murphy. So Murph's gonna join us.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to him about stuff. I've just I brought
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: this question up earlier, and I don't I just wonder
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: if Salt Lake City is ready for another pro sports franchise.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Is there enough money to go around. I'm not talking
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: about from a fandom standpoint. The fans are here, that's great,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: is there? That's eight? Baseball is so many days, and
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: I just worry. You've got three major league level sports
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: franchises now with the Jazz, the Mammoth and RSL. And
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: you've got three major college football programs, Utah BYU and
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: Utah State. And then you've got three minor league teams
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: that are gobbling up at the pie. That's nine big.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean the Bees, Royals, and Grizzlies. I always think
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: about things, not just from a fans standpoint, but fans
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: factor into this as well. Eighty two games is a
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: lot of games. And then you've got are there enough
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: corporate dollars to buy the sweet and the advertising and
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: everything like that. Anyway, we'll talk to Murph about that,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: because Marv's part of a big league, big League baseball
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: here in Utah and helping to bring it here. And
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  Speaker 2: trust me, I am not pooh poohing this in any way.
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  Speaker 2: I love major League Baseball. I just I don't want
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  Speaker 2: something to come here and something else snuff off. We're
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  Speaker 2: building a grit this market. I mentioned this earlier. I
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  Speaker 2: have now lived here. It will be twenty five years
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  Speaker 2: in June that I have lived in Utah. And to
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  Speaker 2: see the sports landscape change, the socioeconomic landscape, it's changed.
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  Speaker 2: Everything has changed. It doesn't look like the same city
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  Speaker 2: outside of our mountains that I moved to to live
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  Speaker 2: here twenty five years ago. I just hope Utah can
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  Speaker 2: sustain another major league for another major league sports franchise
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  Speaker 2: in baseball is the next one up, but I want
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  Speaker 2: it to happen in the worst way. I did see
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  Speaker 2: this story today, and it's just I don't know what
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: to make of this story. I don't know if you
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: guys saw this. Caleb Williams everybody's favorite quarterback. They love
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  Speaker 2: him in Chicago. You taught the people here don't love
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  Speaker 2: him because of his time here. Although he never beat Utah.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: But apparently he's ticked off one of the great NBA
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  Speaker 2: legends with one of the great nicknames of all time. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams attempted to trademark the moniker the Iceman, and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: he's now facing scrutiny from George Gervin, who shares the
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  Speaker 2: same nickname. Apparently, Kervin told ESPN that he was caught
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  Speaker 2: off guard when he learned that Caleb Williams had attempted
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  Speaker 2: to trademark the term and nickname Iceman that he earned
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  Speaker 2: during the twenty twenty five season for his late game
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  Speaker 2: performances in helping the Bears win their first playoff game ever.
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  Speaker 2: Kervin said, I've been the Iceman for forty something years.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought anybody would try to trademark it. He
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  Speaker 2: kind of knocked me up out of the box. Williams
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  Speaker 2: and his holding company filed for four trademark applications with
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  Speaker 2: the United States Patent the Trademark Office related to the
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  Speaker 2: Iceman nickname that includes water bottles, T shirts, sweatshirts, jerseys, hats,
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  Speaker 2: eye wear, downloadable posters, and more. Four days later, Gervin
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  Speaker 2: and his LLC filed two trademark applications for Iceman and
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  Speaker 2: Iceman forty four, the latter of which refers to his
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  Speaker 2: jersey number that he wore for the Spurs that was
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  Speaker 2: retired by the Spurs in nineteen eighty seven. I guess
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  Speaker 2: maybe if I lived in Chicago this would be a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that Caleb Williams was even referred to
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  Speaker 2: as the Iceman. I mean, did he give himself that nickname?
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  Speaker 2: Because you can't really give yourself a nickname. Remember we've
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  Speaker 2: touched on this for years. You have to be given
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  Speaker 2: a nickname. Maybe he's trying to get this. I don't
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  Speaker 2: dislike Caleb Williams. I didn't like his college act. He's
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: turned out to be a really good NFL quarterback, which
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: has changed since I left the airwaves two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: because he was being drafted at that point in time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the Iceman thing. We'll see if
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  Speaker 2: he fights it and goes to court. I will never
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  Speaker 2: think of Caleb Williams as the Iceman because I'm old
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  Speaker 2: and George Gervin was in my wheelhouse. But it will
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see how this fight plays out down
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: the line. Anyway, that's your daily dump here on the
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show, brought to you by the good folks
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• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Some text messages I wanted to read and get in
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  Speaker 2: with you guys right here real quick. You guys have
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: been great today, by the way, and I am thoroughly
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: enjoying being back. I am not backed full time, I
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: am not. I'm here on a fill in basis. Sean
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: will be back soon, but I will be back soon too, because,
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  Speaker 2: as you guys know, Sean travels a lot. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: text messages, This one comes in today from Texter nineteen
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  Speaker 2: forty three. How is Nate Johnson best utilized? We were
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: talking about Utah football earlier today. I was asking you
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: to give me some of your questions. I think Nate
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Johnson is best utilized as a weapon for Utah football.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: The way that Jason Beck utilized him last year is
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: a great way to utilize him. Nate can be lined
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: up as a tailback. Nate can be lined up as
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  Speaker 2: a wide receivern Nate can be lined up as a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: slot wide receiver. Nate can be brought in motion and
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: fly sweep action. Nate can be lined up as a quarterback.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: That is the beauty of Nate Johnson. And here's what
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I do know about Kevin mcgiven from talking to people
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: that he coached with or people that covered him at
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: other stops, and then talking to Kevin himself. Much like
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Jason Beckett was here a year ago, he does a
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  Speaker 2: great job of utilizing all the talent that's at his disposal.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: So I think that you'll probably see Nate Johnson utilized
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  Speaker 2: in a variety of ways this year for Utah football.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: Text message in from Nathaniel Payna, ain't Nathaniel or Nate.
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  Speaker 2: Nostalgia is real right now. Really glad to have you
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: back on the midday show, even if it's not a
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: full time thing. Nope, just filling in for Sean. But
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying being back too, so I appreciate that. Eight
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  Speaker 2: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Hey Bill
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: the Resident BYU fan chiming in, Oh, it's Darren. Hey Darren,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: good to hear from you again. Still hoping to run
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: into you at a football game or something. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: if that ever happens.
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  Speaker 5: Darren.
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  Speaker 2: If you come to a Utah football game, you can
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: come to the Smith's tailgate area and bump into be
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: there and say hi, I would love to meet you.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Text message in for Matt Rigby. Matt says Bill. Can
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: I get your opinion over the next twelve months which
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Rice Ecles ticket will cost more the Holy War or
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty seven NHL Winter Classic. Good question. I
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: would have to do some background research. I don't know
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: what Winter class I assume that you're talking about max price, right,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: not ticket office price, secondary market things like that. I
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: don't know what the Winter Classic tickets go for. I
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: do know that BYU Utah tickets Utah BYU tickets fetch
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: a pretty fair penny. And my inkling is when the
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Utes and the Cooges get together in early November at
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Rice Echos this coming year, both are gonna have very
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: good records again, right, so we'll see. I don't know
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: right now. I'd have to price that out, but I
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: do know both will fetch a really, really nice price.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's really cool that the that the Winter
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Classics coming to Rice Cycle Stadium too, and I love
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: having the NHL in Salt Lake City. Went to the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: game last night. It was fantastic. Hockey never disappoints hockey
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: and person never disappoints either. Jake Rice says, takes this
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: takes me back to my senior in high school. Missed
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  Speaker 2: you in studio? Uh, missed you in the studio. Bill, Hey, Jake,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: back to your when was your senior year of high school?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Two years ago? You a sophomore in college. Thanks for
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: tuning in today. I appreciate it. Ryan Davidson says, I
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: think Caleb's fingernails may be what Thad said it said.
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  Speaker 2: Okay eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to reach me today on the on
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: the on the on the text line, I would love
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: to hear from you. Utah Football, Quaye, What's what's the
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: biggest question you've got this spring about Utah football? If
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: you're a Utah football fan, I get to go up
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: to practice from time to time and check in on things.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Morgan and his staff are always kind. I've had a
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: My new job affords me great access as director of broadcasting,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: and I've also had great converse stations with Kevin mcgiven
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: and Colton Swan and Joe Derozio, the new general manager
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: on my podcast, The Crimson Corner. If you haven't checked
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: it out, My guest this week, Stevenson Sylvester, you can
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: find my podcast. Please find it if you have it
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: already wherever you find your podcasts, and rate and review
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: it nicely. But what's the biggest question Utah fans you
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: have right now heading into spring ball? Because there's a
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: lot of questions. But as I said earlier on the
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: show today, I am very bullish on what this team's
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  Speaker 2: going to be this year. I think they're going to
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: be really, really good again this year. I think they
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: are right there. I think the gap between Texas Tech,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Utah and BYU is very very close. And I think
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: on my podcast, I've done a bunch of this with
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: the way too early top twenty fives. I think most
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: of the ones I've seen that have Utah kind of
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: in the mid to late teams are right. I think
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: that's the right place to put this team. It shows
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: great respect for what returns and for Morgan Scalley coming in,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: but still says, yeah, there's some questions about this team,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: which there are. I'll tell you my kind of areas
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: I'm watching. Somebody asked me what my biggest concern was.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have any concerns. I have questions.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: But I think this is going to be a good
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: football team coming up this fall. So what's the biggest
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: question you have right now about Utah football as they
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: begin springball? They're a weekend right now, and as they
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: head toward the off season. Hit me on the text
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  Speaker 2: line and let me know eight seven seven three five
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  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred. That's again eight seven seven three
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  Speaker 2: five three zero seven hundred. Also, year one of Alex
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Jensen and the basketball program are done now, they're now
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: in the roster building process for year number two. What
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: do you see as the biggest need or the biggest
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: area to address as they hit the off season recruiting,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: portal stuff like that, which by the way, opens up
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  Speaker 2: April to seventh. It can hit me on the line
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  Speaker 2: with that as well at eight seven seven three five
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  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred. And the other thing that I
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: brought up today is Salt Lake ready And this is
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: something we may even dive into a little bit deeper
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: the next time I fill in for Shawn or Spence.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like right now Salt Lake is ready
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: for another pro sports franchise because the market's pretty full
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: for the size right now. And again, nothing's official on
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: the baseball side, but it's trending that direction. Give me
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: your thoughts. I'd love to hear from you. We'll do
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: some more text messages coming up as we're live today
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  Speaker 2: time out that with a leader board update there at
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  Speaker 2: the Houston Open this weekend down in Texas. We'll read
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: some more of your text messages and more. Bill Riley
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: filling in on the Shan O'Connell show today Right here
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  Speaker 2: on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
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  Speaker 5: To one FM.
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  Speaker 2: Shawn's actually gonna join us on the show today. He's
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  Speaker 2: gonna join us in about ten minutes.
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  Speaker 6: Here.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: He's on assignments. It's been kind of enough to let
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: me sit in the air chair today. Bill Riley filling
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: in today for Shan O'Connell. By the way, I've got
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: a bit of a busy day today. I'm gonna leave
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: here in Ogden and I'm gonna be heading over to
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Charlie Montford Field in America. First ballpark, the new baseball
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: stadium at Utah calling a three game weekend set this weekend.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: Whether should be great and Kansas State comes into town.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: K State's good. Utah has been good too.
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  Speaker 6: At home.
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  Speaker 2: They're seven to two at home this year. First pitch
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: tonight at six o'clock. If you guys have not been
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: out to the ballpark yet, I would tell you to
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: get out there. It is absolutely gorgeous the views. If
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: you're not familiar with where the park is, it's on
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: campus now. They've got a brand new stadium on campus
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: and it sits where the old baseball stadium sat on
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Guardsman Way and the views of the mountains and Sunnyside
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: Park are spectacular. Should be a good pitching matchup tonight.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: K State's good, Utah's good six o'clock first pitch, Come
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: on out and enjoy. And I can't make it out
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: to the ballpark tonight, myself and former first basement Hunter
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Simmons will have the call tonight coming up at six
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: o'clock and then tomorrow at two and Saturday at one
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: or Sunday at one, So games all weekend long, and
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: you guys can come out and enjoy a little Utah
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: baseball if you've got no plans this weekend or want
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: to just get outside and see a little bait ball
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: and all that good stuff we would love to see
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: out there at the ballpark eight seven seven three five
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  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred as we broadcast live from Washa
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  Speaker 2: washtat Front Kia today on Riverdale Road with their March
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  Speaker 2: in here this afternoon, shooting for concert tickets to see
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Posts Malone and Jelly Roll coming up at Rice Ecle Stadium,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: and reading some of your text messages as well. Today
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: on the program, we'll get your leaderboard update as well,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: coming up from the Houston Open. This one comes in
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: today from Texter thirty four to ninety four says, Hey, Bill,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: good to hear your voice again. Good to be heard again.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: My question about Utah football is how the offensive line
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: is going to.
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  Speaker 6: Look this year.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a question Texter that kind of everybody has
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: on their mind right now, and I can't give you
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: any definitive answer. I think there's a lot of talent.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: That's what I can tell you right now. I think
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of talent on that offensive line. It's
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: really now. That's what this spring. Probably the biggest question
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: in spring football right now is figuring those guys out
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: and figuring out where the puzzle pieces. Fist fit. Had
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: a chance the other day to catch up. I've actually
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: caught up with Jordan Gross a number of times this year.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: He met with the media the other day in a
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: in a media session and just kind of laid some
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: of that stuff out. And Jordan, by the way, I
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: will say this, I've said this multiple times today and
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: told people there's such an infectious energy and vibe right
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: now on this Utah coaching staff that Scally has put together.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: It's every single guy. When you talk to him, they're
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: kind of smiling and bouncing around. They're excited to be there.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: And yeah, they've got that The program's got that new
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: car smell right now because you've got a new coaching
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: staff and a new energy about it. And as I've
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: said before, there was nothing wrong by the way with
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: the energy that Kyle Whittingham and his staff had. It
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: was just different, and sometimes different is a good thing.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: But Jordan is one of these guys that is truly
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: excited to be part of this staff. He was a
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: ute All American. He was a guy that lived it
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: and breathed it and did all of that while he
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: was at the University of Utah, and then he went
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: on to have a great career for what twelve or
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: thirteen years in the NFL. Is an All Pro left
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: tackle for the Carolina Panthers, and he had a great life.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: He was coaching high school football in Idaho, is home state.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: But when Morgan called him, he said it was an
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: I just he said, I couldn't turn down the opportunity. Now,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: he of all the position coaches, he's probably got the
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: the heaviest lift because he doesn't have a single starter
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: coming back. Every other position group has either a guy
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: that played a ton or started last year coming back,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: but the title the offensive line room doesn't have that,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: So Jordan's figuring that out now. With that being said,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: they've got some good pieces. Got a guy that he
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: brings with him from Idaho, Kelvin Obot, who was a
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: five star recruit. You know, I didn't get a lot
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: of those guys. Then you've got guys that played quite
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: a bit last year like Alex Harrison and Salatoa Moayai
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: who were really good players last year, and Keith Olsen
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: who was there, and zero Way Williams who were there.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: So you've got guys that have been in the program.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: Then you've got some guys that are coming in, guys
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: like Isaiah Kemma and some others. So there are good
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: pieces in that room. Now, it's just up to Jordan
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: to figure out where they fit. And that's a perfect
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: opportunity for spring football. So it's gonna be interesting to
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: see where those guys fit and how they put them
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: together and when fall camp rolls around. The real key
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: is if you can get a feel on it this spring,
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  Speaker 5: I'm told John, that's right here in Pittsburgh for PFL
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• 1:43:38
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  Speaker 2: Be on ESPN Plus tomorrow night. I will be doing
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  Speaker 2: and tonight in Sunday, and you'll be doing the fights.
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  Speaker 6: Nice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good place, easily accessible for everyone who's
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right by the way. The airchair the headset
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  Speaker 2: still fits, So yeah, it wasn't it's been pretty seamless.
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  Speaker 2: James has made it easy for me. The remote crew
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  Speaker 2: here at Wassatch front Key has made it easy for me.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, thanks for letting me sit in.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, of course, I appreciate you doing it. I mean,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: I say I appreciate you doing it until I come
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  Speaker 5: back and I read all the text on the text
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  Speaker 5: line that are just like, hey, this is better. Get
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: build back permanently. But for now, I at least appreciate
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: that you're feeling it.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: I think you should have learned many years ago. You
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: never read the mansions. You never read the mansions. Turn
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: the mansions off, Sean, don't read them.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: That's probably the right thing to do. But I'm still
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: petty and terrible, and so I read. I'm in the
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: comments section. If you know what I mean.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: I got you, I got you, all right. I was
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: asking people today, biggest question about spring football for Utah
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: is what I've got a bunch of them, and I've
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: talked about them on my podcast, and I've been lucky
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: enough to be able to catch up with Colton and
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: Kevin mcgiven and Joe Derozio, and I was sitting in
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: with all the assistant coaches, the other day, I've been
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: I'm bullish on this team, Sean, I really am. I
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: think you know I've been doing way too early Top
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: twenty five breakdowns on my podcast every week. I pull
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: a different one up every week, and I think Utah
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: is mostly placed correctly. I think late teams early twenties
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: is a great place to be right now because I
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: think that they don't mean anything. Preseason polls don't meet anything.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: The one in August doesn't mean anything either. The only
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: one that matters is College Football Playoff Committee poll. But
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: what to the show is the respect in thought people
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: have about your program. And you know, with a brand
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: new coaching staff and with a bunch of new roster
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: players for Utah to still be seventeen to about twenty one,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: and most of these polls says this program's got a
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: lot of respect for people on the outside.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and you wondered if that was going to be
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: maintained when you know the architect of the program was
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: now somewhere else. And it's a good little shout to
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: the confidence people have in Morgan Scalley's ability in the
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 5: recruiting classes and the development reputation of this program. And
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: I think very specifically to the quarterback position, because people
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 5: saw what Devin dan Pierre was able to do last year,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: and then they saw what Bert Fickland did in his
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: sparing duties, and everyone kind of probably raised an eyebrow
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: at the fact that both guys are still on the
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: roster and that if you've got a good quarterback situation,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: you've got a good quarterback, you have a chance to
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: win college football games. That, combined with the schedule, I
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: think there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic about
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: this Utah football team, even though there are plenty of
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: questions that need to be answered.
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  Speaker 2: Well, obviously the biggest question, and we will talk about
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: this then, I want to find out what you're second,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: because everybody's biggest questions offensive line. And it's not necessarily
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: that there's not talent there, but you lose five starters.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: And when you lose five starters who had played together
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: basically for two full years, that's a big question.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: I've talked to Jordan Gross a number of times. By
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: the way, did you and Jordan crossover at all or
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: did you come in right after he graduated?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I came in right after he graduated.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but he is a guy that just he is
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: so happy to be at Utah. He talked about it
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: the other day. He said he and Scali had long
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: chats on the phone before he ever committed, and he
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: said when he saw Scalley's vision, he couldn't say no,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: and he just wanted to make sure Scali was sure
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: and taking a big chance on him. It is a
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: big chance in some ways, but in other ways. A
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: guy that was an All American at your school, a
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: guy that had a twelve year NFL career playing the
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: position and was an All Pro and has now coached
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: high school kids for two or three years. Maybe he
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't have quite the experience at this level that a
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: Jim Harding did. But Jordan Gross checks a lot of boxes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah he does. And one of the boxes that me
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: even that resume you just gave doesn't necessarily tell the
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: full story on You can be an All American player
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: and not necessarily the best teammate. You can be an
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: All Pro, or you can be a pro bowler. You
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: can be a longtime veteran in the NFL and not
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: be invested in the success of people around you, like
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: your own talent and ability can carry you to honors
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: like that and to veteran status like that. But in
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: speaking with guys that played with him at Utah, that
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: played with him in the NFL, he is he always
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: was the team captain that made sure that he elevated
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: the standard around him, and he was a guy that
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: you know, if you were the young talented individual that
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: needed a little bit of guidance, he was going to
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: take you under his wing. He's going to show you
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: the ropes, He's going to do things the right way.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: So long before he was officially a coach, he was
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: coaching people. And that's a personality trait, core personality trait
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: that people like Colton Swan have, like Morgan Scally has,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: like Shreifshaw has. It's a massively important thing for an
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: offensive line coach to have that like natural teaching mindset,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: that natural mentor mindset, because it is the ultimate team
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: game and that is the ultimate position group that has
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 5: to be functioning as a cohesive unit. So I lack
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: of experience relative lack of experience doesn't scare me very
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: much with Jordan Gross the way that maybe if you
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: don't know his backstory fully and you're writing an article
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 5: in like Washington d C. You might, oh, this is
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: a guy who came from the high school ranks. True. Yeah,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: it's factually correct. However, it doesn't tell a full story.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: Now I agree. I didn't even think about this till
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: he brought it up the other day in his press conference.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: In a day and age where guys leave for various
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: and assorted reasons, some you know, very tangible, some very petty,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: not a single guy in that offensive line room hit
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: the portal in the offseason when the other staff left
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: and there was there was some turnover and it was unknown.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: And then when he came in, because none of them
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: knew him, not a single one of those guys left.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: To me, that's pretty telling to the connection that he
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: must have made to them pretty quickly.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: Well, look, there are very few things that carry weight
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: in football locker rooms and in football rooms in general,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: like big time NFL credentials, And the only thing he
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 5: doesn't have is a Super Bowl Championship ring to wave
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: in people's face. But beyond that, you do even a
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: little bit of homework, and the bona fides are there,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: Like you can't question the resume the credentials of Jordan Gross.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: So if you want to be a great offensive lineman.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: You want to play for a great offense lineman, and
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: that's what he's giving. He and Morgan Scaley are giving
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 5: every one of these guys in that position group, and
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: I'm glad that they all stay.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell with us today. He's in Pittsburgh for the
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: fights this weekend. All right, take an offensive line off
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: the table. Biggest question mark with a position group, individual
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: or just over arching question you have with U taught
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: football this spring?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, look, I love Colton Swan. I probably
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: love Colton Swan more than anyone does because he was
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: my coach at Weaver State before he came down and
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: started things at the University of Utah. But there is
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: a question, not in a negative connotation question, but just
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: a curiosity about what the defense looks like with him
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: calling it. He was a co defensive coordinator at Weaver
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: State for very successful teams. Now he's going to be
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: taking over like the definitive foundational unit for Utah football.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: Utah football is it' the D and has been for
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: three four decades. So now he's taking over and what
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: he does with that is going to be really really
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: interesting to me. I'm incredibly curious how much it changes
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: and how much he just sticks with the status quo.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: And then with that in mind, is this defensive line,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 5: is the defensive line group capable of carrying the torch
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: and filling the shoes that every single defensive line group
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: and every pass Russian group has to carry at the
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: University of Utah. That is a lofty expectation and unrealistic
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: sometimes expectation from me, from you, from the fan base,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: that you're going to be one of the best units
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: in the conference certainly and hopefully in the country. And
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: on paper there's not a ton of experience, and on
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: paper there's not a ton of four or five star guys.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 5: It's like that group which is never a question. It's
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 5: like at least a mild question in that not that
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: there's a lack of talent, that there's a lack of potential,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 5: but you got to prove it. So I'm keeping an
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: eye on that along with the offensive line. And you know,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: for months, for onnces, maybe the biggest question is not
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: the pass catching abilities of a wide receiver room. So
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: that's nice.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that because people have asked me,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: will what are your concerns, I don't really have any concerns.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: I just have a lot of questions and curiosity. For me,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: the passing game is really I'm really curious about what
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: the passing game is going to look like. I thought
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: Devin made some really nice strides. If you watched his
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: new Mexico tape to where he was last year, he
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: was wildly accurate in the short and intermitia passing game.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: They really didn't stretch the field a lot last year, Sean.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: There was not a lot of downfield throwing with Utah offense.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: So with this new kind of trio of wide receivers
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: from the Portal Pagan, Sholes and Johnson mixed in with
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: Simmons and wine Moore and hopefully if Zipperer gets healthy
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: him back too, I'm really curious to see with Kevin
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: mcgiven what this passing game looks like. And again we'll
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: get glimpses of it this spring. It won't be a
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: finished product there install and terminology and all that stuff,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: but I think they've got some guys that can legitimately
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: stretch the field. What do you think?
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: Well, and Ken mcgiven knows how to use those guys.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: If you remember a mister irrelevant from Weaber State. Tim
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: toon Kevin mcgiven saw, Oh, look, I got this kid
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: from Arizona with a ton of speed, and he doesn't
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: have to look the part. He doesn't have to be
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: this big, impressive body, but I know that he can
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: run past defenders, and we're going to put the ball
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 5: out there and we're going to let him underneath it.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 5: And to the effect that you sent a big sky
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: guy to the NFL Draft by doing that, I mean,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: he knows how to use wide receiver talent when you've
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: got it. And to the point you made about the
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: lack of downfield passing, I think we underestimate how injured
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: Devin dan Peer was and how much that effect. Obviously
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: we were just like, oh, look, you can't run the
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 5: way that we expect them to be able to run. Yeah,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: that's a big part of his game. But when you
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: don't have a solid base, when your legs, your hips,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: you're growing, they're not feeling good, you cannot drive through
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: the turf and generate the power to put good power
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 5: and put good zip on your downfield throws. That was
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: hugely problematic for Devin dan Pierre. He was arm throwing
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: every single one of those those routes that went beyond
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: twenty five yards. That is a really really difficult thing
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: for any quarterback to do, even guys with great arm strength.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: So him being a lot healthier, having the surgically repaired
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: growing muscles or tendons or whatever's going on in there,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: that's going to be really big for the downfield passing game.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: And obviously, you know, we'll see what bird Fickland does
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: when he's put in there because he's got some arm strength.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: And I think that the downfield passing game is gonna
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: be absolutely crucial. And I also think you have the
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: run game, or potentially have the run game. Certainly in
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: the running back room, you have the powerful inside run
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: game that you can set that up by making a
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: defense crowd the box a little bit trying to take
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 5: away away Sean Parker, and then all of a sudden,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 5: it gives you an opportunity with a safety creeping forward
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: to try and get behind him. So that is the
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: game that every offensive coordinator has to play with their
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: defensive coordinators opposite them. And I think that Utah is
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 5: going to be well equipped to have a nice balanced
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 5: offense that does include some downfield passing.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm very intrigued to by what Kevin does.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: I don't like the term gadget guys. I like weapons instead.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: You've got Nate Johnson. You've got Hunter Andrews, who was
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: to me on the verge of having a really nice, productive,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: maybe big year with Utah before he got hurt last year.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: You've got Daniel Bray. You've got the aforementioned Bird Ficklin,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: who I know is a quarterback, but he can be
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: used in a variety of different ways. There are a
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: lot of guys that aren't necessarily grouped in one room
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: that have the ability to be really nice weapons for
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: this Utah offense too, that aren't a designated wide receiver
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: or designated running back full time.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and then Morgan is the type of guy that
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: is going to just allow for positionless football. He's going
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: to say, look, do what you have to do. Get
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: that ball in the end zone. I don't care who'se
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: hands it's in. I don't care what position they're starting from,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 5: I don't care what the motion looks like. Get this
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 5: ball into the end zone and make it hard. Because
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: he's a defensive coordinator and you heard him say it.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 5: Your job is to give the opposing defensive coordinator fits.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 5: That's what he wants his offense to do. He wants
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: to have He wants to create the kind of nightmares
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: that other team's created for him by having athletic versatility,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: by having positionless football, by being like, well, is this
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: guy wide receiver? Is he a tight end? Is he
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 5: a tight end? Is he a fullback? Is he all
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 5: of the above? Is Nate Johnson when he comes in motion?
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 5: Is he going to stop in the backfield and reverse?
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: What are we going to do here? Like Morgan is
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: going to be I think a lot more comfortable with
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: innovation in that regard than even Witt was. And Witt
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: did a really good job in the last few years
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: of allowing those guys to really kind of thrive and
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 5: shine because you didn't have enough other weapons, so you
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: had to be like, all right, brand Keithy, just use
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 5: him however we can use him. But right now, and
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: I knock on wood as I say this, that group
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 5: of guys that you just mentioned, plus like probably a
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: couple others. Who's the Carvile the punt return kid like
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: man bunt Man has got incredible speed and quicks like
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 5: you get him a little bit more involved on the
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: offensive side of things, coming out of that slot or
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 5: motioning into the backfield, and all of a sudden, you're
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: really cooking with gas. And I think we're going to
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: see some of that much of it in spring because
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 5: they're gun shy about exposing too much, which is something
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: I hope Morgan wouldn't be, but it's the right way
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 5: to be. And yeah, I'm excited for what that group
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 5: can be in the fall.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: One more football note, how excited are you about Luke
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: Wells and the return of the rhino backs for the
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: Utah offense?
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  Speaker 5: It is It is a glorious thing for the non
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: lateral quickness individuals like myself. All Right, you want a
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 5: guy that is just going to run downhill and put
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 5: his face mask through the chest of a linebacker, whether
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 5: he's got the ball in his hands or not. And
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: now you've got at least one, probably two on the
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 5: roster that can do that. And it's a glorious thing.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: It's a beautiful, beautiful thing. And Kevin mcgivn knows how
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 5: to use those guys as well.
• 1:59:49
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  Speaker 2: But midway through the show, it was it was a
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• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: the daily dump today for you. So yeah, uh hey
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: before it lets you wait.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 5: Wait to your grievances Bill and you get all that
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 5: angstocker shows.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: I got some problems with you people channeled my inner
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: Frank Costanza. It's not even it's not even festivus. I
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't have brought this up today. Went to
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: the hockey game last night, had a great time. It's
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: baseball opening day. You know, I love baseball, and I
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: know baseball's right around the corner. I just feel it
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: more people I talk to Dale Murphy's going to join
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: us in a few minutes. He's part of that, you know,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: Baseball Utah project. But I want to just ask you
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: on the way out here, Sean, is Salt Lake City
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: really and truly ready right now for another pro sports franchise.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: There are three professional major league level sports franchises Jazz, Mammoth, RSL,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: three major league level state major college programs in Utah
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: BYU and Utah State, And then you've got three minor
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: league teams, the Bees, the Royals, the Grizzlies. Can Utah
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: right now sustain another major league sports franchise without doing
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: damage to another one.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 5: As long as the other ones are competitive and actually
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 5: giving people a reason to show up, then yes, Okay.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 5: I mean the appetite for sports and entertainment in Salt
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: Lake City and really just in American society is incredibly strong.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 5: But you know, the competition is better than it's ever been. Home,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: the home viewing experience is better than it's ever been,
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: and you know, you got more streaming options and kids
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 5: video games are better than they've ever been. So if
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 5: you're gonna bring a franchise in, you can't just say hey,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 5: we're here. That means you have to show up. You
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 5: got to give people a reason to show up. You
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 5: got to make an entertaining product. You've got to be competitive.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 5: The Jazz are finally, I think, starting to turn that corner.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 5: But we have learned over the last four years that
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 5: even one of the most loyal fan bases in all
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 5: of NBA basketball can have some fatigue on tanking and
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 5: on losing constantly, and on roster manipulation and things like that. Right,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 5: you have to incentivize a fan base, and Utah is
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 5: no different than anyone else to actually show up. So
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 5: when the Major League Baseball expansion franchise, when the Utah
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: Cutthroats or the Utah Mountain Goats or the Utah Trappers
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 5: or Goals or whatever we end up calling them when
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 5: they are in that ballpark out in the Power District. Yeah,
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 5: as an spansion team, you give him a little grace here, two, three, four, whatever,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 5: but you better start competing the way that the Utah
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 5: Mammoth have done. It is the ideal model. I mean,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 5: second year of franchise history, very very very very likely
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 5: to make it to the playoffs, could potentially win a series.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 5: You're a brand new thing, your players have integrated well
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 5: into the community. You're gonna need that. But if Major
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 5: League Baseball can give you something that even remotely resembles
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 5: that product, absolutely Salt Lake City can support it.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, I know you're a big name in
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: mascot guy. Do you have a name slash mascot that
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: that you've heard that you would like to see baseball
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: when that day does come go with? You are very
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: passionate about the hockey team. He you if your fire
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: has been stoked yet? Has the mind been grinding on
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: the baseball yet?
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 5: Everyone really loves the cutthroat's idea because of the cutthroat
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 5: troush and whatnot. At the end of the day, it's
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 5: a fish. I don't know. I loved a fish, you
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. Like you could do some cool
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 5: you could do some cool branding and stuff like that,
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 5: But that's that's a trout, you know what I mean.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 5: It's like a foot long fish. It's not even impressive,
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 5: like a marlin. So I'm dubious on that. I'm the
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 5: middle of the road on that. I came when we
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 5: were contemplating names for the for the hockey team somebody
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 5: sent in, you know, like a mountain goats, Like a goat.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 5: I would love, I would absolutely love a goat themed
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 5: baseball team in the state of Utah. But I'm open
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 5: to any and all suggestions.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: I don't mind that if you create like an angry,
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: tough looking mountain goat with horns and things like that. Yeah,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: it can't be something cartoonish and happy and friendly. It's
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: got to be a mean, intimidating looking one that would
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: come buck you off the side of the mountain if
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: you were up there type goat. Am I wrong?
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 5: Exactly right?
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 5: And and you know, put a little diamond on its
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 5: head or whatever. I don't know, like, but there's the
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 5: options are there. There's uh they did a good job
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 5: with the Mammoth saying. So if you can get on
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 5: board with that same kind of company, that same kind
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 5: of branding efforts, then the first hurdle you got to
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 5: get over. You've got to get the team here. And
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 5: I know Dale Murphy has been working hard on that
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 5: with Big League Utah, and you're going to have that conversation,
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 5: but I think it's an inevitability. So I look forward
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 5: to when we we debate it aggressively, you know, in
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 5: the near future.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: Go with me here for just a minute, Sean, how
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: about the yetti? I mean, what do you think I've
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: been off the air for a couple of years now,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: so I'm not sure if anybody's ever brought that up.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: Do you what do you think.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: That's a that's a great idea, Bill, I you know,
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 5: let's let's do it. Let's see if a lawsuit comes
• 2:06:01
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• 2:08:13
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• 2:08:16
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• 2:08:19
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• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: My Royals open up tonight in Atlanta against the Braves,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: two teams not pick to win their division, but two
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: teams that are very much in the playoff race, and
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: the AL and the NL. And I couldn't come back
• 2:08:55
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• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: Dale Murphy join us. He's at in Atlanta because he's
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: like the most popular Brave of all time. Brave fans
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: love to have him back at Truest Park, and he'll
• 2:09:07
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  Speaker 6: Ryles?
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Opening Day, opening week, whatever you want to call.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 6: It's a great time of year.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: You know, you're right when we had one day, I
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: got a couple of thoughts when we had one day.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 5: First of all, it should be a national holiday.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 6: It was one day.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: But the other thing is, interestingly enough, remember when the
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds had the honorary first game of the year.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: They always had to play first because they were the
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: first professional organization. I'm it's my recollections, right. I got
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: to play in that game a couple of times, the
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: very first, and it was kind of a it was
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: kind of a cool thing. One night, one day, we
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: had a twelve noon start, and you know, no internet
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. In al Rabowski gave up a
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: Grand Slam to days and stepsions like in the bottom
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: of the night or maybe the bottom of the eight
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: to put him ahead.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 5: The next day, Hungo comes to.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: The ballpark, he goes, you'll never believe what happened. My
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: wife called me about six o'clock yesterdays, wish me good luck.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: Tode the mad Hungarian al Raboski, he was a Royal
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: for a couple of years when I was a kid.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I played with al for a couple of years
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: here in the Atlanta after those days with the Royals
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: and the Cardinals of course, and great guy. I think
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do an event within this summer and love
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: to see that guy. He was a lot of fun
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: and kind of had that thing go in the Mad
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: Hungarian and anyway, yeah, his wife, he goes, honey, we
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: already played and it didn't work out too good.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Reds had the first The Reds always had
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: the first game. It was like newon Eastern Time, and
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: then everybody else would the first pitch late in the
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: afternoon or evening, but they always had that first game. Now, hey, whatever,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: baseball's in a good place right now, especially coming out
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: of the WB. I thought the WBC was a great
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: advertisement for baseball in general, but a great way to
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: lead into this season.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: Did you like the WBC, Urph, Yeah, it was fantastic.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: I probably told you this before, but I coached in it.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 5: Long in the early days, I coached first base and
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 5: it hadn't hit it stride.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 6: It was a little tough going.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 5: People didn't know what was going and just getting used
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 5: to it.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: And once I think the US team USA won a
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: couple or one one at least, people.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 5: Start paying attention. Now it's hit its stride. It's really good.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 6: They've done a great job.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: And then you see the passion that these countries have
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: for the game, and especially Venezuela. I mean, so much
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: going on there, you know. I thought it was a
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: great story. And I heard one story about the manager.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: Can't remember his name, but right when they started having
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: their first workouts, he put a box in the middle
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: of the locker rooms and it said ego on it,
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: and he said, everybody they checked their ego into this
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: box before you go every day, before you go into
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: this out on the field, because there's not gonna be
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: any egos here we're in it to win it.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 6: And I thought it was a great story for Venezuela.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: I thought so too, and great just great advertisement for
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: baseball leading us into a season. But there's big picture
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: issues with baseball right now, Murph. There's a lot of
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: people worried about labor unrest and the spending at the
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: top by teams like the Dodgers and things like that,
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: creating a competitive imbalance. You and I have talked about
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: this down through the years, back when we used to
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: do the podcast together and stuff too. What's a good
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: solution for baseball? Is it a salary cap? Is it
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: a hard salary cap? I mean what they do now
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: is kind of a pseudo luxury tax. But if you've
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: got money, it doesn't prevent you from spending like the
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: Dodgers do. So give me the Dale Murphy theory on
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: where things stand right now and how baseball can I
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: don't know if you can fix it completely, Dale, but
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: how you can make it better.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's talk about a cap, there's talk about a floor.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: I think you know, from a player's perspective, we don't
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: want a cap, but.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 3: We want a floor.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: You know, so I don't know, there's got to be
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: a happy medium somewhere. I'm thinking the game is in
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: such a good spot, Bill that let's just hope we
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: don't you know, if you know, I'm gonna have an
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: optimistic view, okay, which everybody's really worried, but I'm thinking
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a way to work this out. We've
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: been through a lot of labor strives, We've had twenty
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: some years of no problems. Baseball's in a good position.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: We got superstars, we're international. I think if they move
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: the WBC to the middle of the to the middle
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: of the summer, I think that would even get bigger.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of good things happening, and
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: we got to expansion, as you know, we're looking at
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: getting a team there in Utah, and so, man, it's
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: in such.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 6: A good spot.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start taking a little more optimistic view that
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: we may have some problems, we may miss a little bit,
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be doom and gloom that
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: some of the people are talking about. We're going to
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: figure this out somehow. And I can't speak to the
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: exact remedy, but I think with so many good things
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: happening and expansion coming.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 6: I'm optimistic.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: Dale, Murphy's with us here on the Bill Riley, Uh,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry on the Shad o'condle Show, Old Habits, Die Hard,
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: Shot o'caddle Show, Bill Riley filling in for Sean Today.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: Just get in this zone sometimes and you forget. So Murph,
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: let's hit on that real quick. I'll get some Major
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: League Baseball thoughts. All the momentum that you read nationally
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: seems to be trending towards Nashville and Salt Lake as
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: expansion markets. You're part of Big League Utah, and I
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: know that you're one of the front facing folks with that.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: What are you hearing from your friends at the Major
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: League Baseball level? What do people ask you or or
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: when they when you run into them?
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 6: What?
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: What are the thoughts?
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: Have you heard of any setbacks as Utah? Do you
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: feel like still in a good position to land an
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: MLB franchise whenever that happens.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, still very optimistic. Uh, you know, been at it
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 6: for a few years now, yep.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: And so you know, initially everybody was like, hey, that's cool,
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: and now it's like once you get to know the market,
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: once you get to know the Miller group and Big
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: League Utah who's all associated with it. They've established some
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: great relationships and I'm thankful to be associated with them,
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: and so everything's positive, really, I you know, I just
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: I hate to, you know, count the chickens before they hatch.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: Obviously there's a there's still some big things to happen.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 6: But are we on track? Absolutely, we're on track.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: I think, Uh, if it's a no for Utah, there's
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of explaining to do that.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 6: We checked every box.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: There's not a box that that we don't check for expansion,
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: uh ownership, especially the group you know, headed by Gail Miller.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: There's just not a box that we don't check. And uh,
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: it's exciting. I mean, I don't know what else to say.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: I just, you know, sooner, sooner rather than later. But
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: we do have this labor agreement we got to get through,
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: got everybody to agree to expansion.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 6: It's gonna take some.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: Time, but we're just still working, still establishing relationships and
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: UH and construction I understand it in that area, not
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: for the ballpark, but to develop the power district is
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: going forward. So very optimistic everybody I talk to.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just leaving that big old donut hole in
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: the middle there to stick that stadium in if and
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: when that time comes, all right, do me a favor
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: for just a minute. Take off your big league you know,
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: your your your big league Utah hat for just a second,
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 2: and and be just Dale Murphy, baseball guy who reads
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: the room. If Nashville and Utah are the two leaders
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 2: right now, is there a market that Utah should be
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: at least a little wary of or concerned because it
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: feels like Nashville is a slam dunk in the east
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: And if this was today, it would be Utah, but
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: it might be a year or eighteen months from now.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: Is there another market that could maybe push for that
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: out west, your old market of Portland. Is there somebody
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: else that Utah needs to keep an eye on.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: Well, someone could pop up, but there's no one right now.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a better market, you know, that
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: side of maybe Mississippi's to the Mississippi.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 6: River or the you know, the Rocky Mountain. But no,
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 6: we're you know obviously important, is there?
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the A's are playing in Sacramento,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're that interested. No ownership group has
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: popped up, and no city, to me, is a better market.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 6: Than what we have.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't like to sound cocky, you know,
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: an overconfidence, but it just you know, I think you
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: can objectively look at it.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 5: Vegas obviously is going to be there, but as you
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 5: know you've.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: Been around, Vegas is a different market. It's far enough
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: away it's going to be a great rivalry. Now, I
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: thought you were going to ask me about realignment. I
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: think there's going to be some exciting things about realignment
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: when the two new teams come in. But I have
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: no idea what that means. But I think it would
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 1: be cool to well, we'll have thirty two teams. I
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: think it will be. I think we're gonna have eight
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: some kind of divisions of four or something, So that'll
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see too.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen realignment. Baseball realigned itself a couple of
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: times over the last thirty or forty years. That's not
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 2: as big a deal. It's it's where you're going to
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: add those markets. I think that as long as you
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 2: keep some of the traditional rivalries in place, you know,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: a new York Boston type thing. A I don't know,
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: a Chicago Milwaukee thing. National League perhaps, But anyway, Atlanta
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: Nashville could end up turning out to be a really
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: big rivalry with the proximity and being in the South.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it would be fun.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: Obviously, the Braves are gonna be a little shall we say,
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: they're gonna ask for a little bit extra that expansion
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: money if they go to Nashville. But I think it's
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: a great market. I think when you project out, like
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: you say, a few decades and fan bases.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a tremendous rivalry we need.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: I think the Braves could really benefit from a regional
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: rival I don't think they're gonna think the same way
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 1: as me, but you know, they want that territory. I
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: don't blame them, but I think it's great. I think
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: it's great for baseball and great for fans.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: Well, the Braves have owned the South for fifty sixty years,
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: so they're not going to give that up without a
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: little bit of a fight.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 6: For sure.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, before I let you go, if it's not the
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: Dodgers in the National League, who is it. Everybody's see
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers as the overwhelming favorite. But if catastrophe hits,
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: the arms go whatever it might happen to be. Who's
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: the team to beat not named the La Dodgers in
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: the National League this year?
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 6: Braves, of course. But here's here's our challenge, Braves.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: And here's the Dodgers advantage obviously, but you know, and
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: it's fairly obvious, but their depths, that's the challenge.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: You know, when you spend a mark, when you spend
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: a billion dollars, you're gonna have some depth.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it's you know, they could, they could,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: they can afford a few injured. Braves went through some
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: serious injuries last year. We're already a little snake bit now, uh,
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: with some injuries going into season, but we can't really,
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: we got to stay healthy. And I think every other
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: team you can talk about the Phillies, Braves if it
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: could be there.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, obviously, off the top of my head.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: San Diego Braves, Phillies whom I miss and as a shot,
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: but Dodgers are so good and have so much depth
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: at which they've established with their spending. Uh, you know,
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: baseball is weird, as we all know. Hey, you know
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: when you think about Toronto should have won that thing
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, you know, so, uh, it's Harden. It's
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be tough to see someone.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 6: You know. Uh, I'll play the Dodgers, but.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: It could be any of these teams we talk about
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: that were in the playoffs last year, and you know,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: we just gotta just gotta play them and see what happens.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 6: But I do like the Braves. I do like this team.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: But we we just we just gotta stay healthy as
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: the old you know, he gets some worn out saying,
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: but especially all the teams except the Dodgers got to
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: stay extremely healthy and have things go.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 6: They're bounce their way.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 5: Dodgers got depth, they got everything.
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 6: So it's gonna be tough.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked to hear mister Braves say he likes the
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: Braves this year. All right, before you go, give me
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: your face player in Major League Baseball to watch. If
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: you're turning on the TV and this guy is on
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: the you know, he's up to bat, or he's on
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: the whatever it might happen to be, who's your favorite
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: player to watch? That have to be the best player,
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: But who's who's Dale Murphy's favorite player to watch.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I got some favorite braves, but you probably want
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 1: me to pick some other people. And and I'll tell
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: you I love two shortstops, your guy Bobby with and
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: Elie de la Cruz. Yeah, you know, I baseball is
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: not like this obvious sport where you're you're playing hard
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: and intense. It doesn't kind of you know, it doesn't
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: exude that. But when those two guys get on the field,
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: I can feel it, and they play hard, they love
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: the game, and uh, it's it's fun to watch. Those
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: are the first two that come to mind. Obviously, Show
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: Hey never we will probably never see a player like him. So,
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: you know, a show Hey's up and he's playing, I'm watching.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Otani is much see must watch TV. But and
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 2: it's not just because I'm a royal Stan. I just
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: think Bobby Wits is because he's a five. He's he's
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: probably the best all the round player in the game
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: not named Sho Heyo Tani between playing shortstop, the toughest
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: position to play. He's got speed, he's got power, he
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: just he does it all. And like you said, he
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: kind of plays with that kind of he's still young,
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: so it kind of plays with that boyish. Hey, I'm
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: out here having fun with my buddy's playing baseball.
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and you know, show show he does d
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: H And I know he pitches and that you know,
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, what he does is remarkable.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 5: But being any you know, show he's everyday player.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: But it's not in the field. He's not a field player.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different now he pitches, so it's hard to
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: figure out what kind of category he put him in.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 6: You know, he's in his own category. I think we
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 6: can agree with that.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: Everyday players Bob be with is the prototypical player. You say, kids,
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 1: watch how he plays.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 6: This is the guy.
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you another young player I really like watching
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: is Roman Anthony from the Red Sox. He's a lot
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: of fun to watch too.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: And everybody says this, but it's hard to figure out
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: how I mean, it's hard when you realize how young
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he just you know, a lot
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: of kids, he just looks like a seasoned veteran. So
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: get him back to our discussion earlier roles. We got
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: so many good things going on in the game. We
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: had one of the best highest watched World Series and
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: casual baseball fans ever let's just take care of business
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: for next year, and let's not have it be a
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: shadow hanging.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 6: Over this year and what we got going on.
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: Hey, Murph, thanks for coming on today. It's always great
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: catching up. We'll do it again soon. Enjoy the baseball
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta this weekend and we'll see if the Braves
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: can rally from an O three deficit to begin the
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: season after the Royals sweep him in Atlanta.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 6: But well yeah that wait, wait, wait, wait, we gotta
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 6: put something on this.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's do it. How about lunch if you
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: can drive up from Alpine from the from Stately Murphy
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 2: Manor in Alpine, we have a little.
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  Speaker 6: Lunch with me.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: Uh, okay, you're on and you haven't been to the
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  Speaker 2: new Utah Ballpark. You haven't been to Charlie Montford Field
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  Speaker 2: in America. First ball, I'll give you a tour of
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  Speaker 2: the ballpark, and either way, I'll give you a tour
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 2: of the ballpark, but one of us will buy lunch
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: depending on whose team wins the series.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 6: Got it? You got it? Thanks, Ryle.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: Talk to you, Murph Dale Murphy with us here on
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  Speaker 2: Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater in late September. Wu Tang.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see two tickets. First person that can correctly text
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  Speaker 2: the correct answer to me on the text line at
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  Speaker 2: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred will
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  Speaker 2: win these tickets to see Wu Tang on nine to
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine. It's a bit away, but you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying, it's about six months away. I mentioned this
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show today. This is my
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  Speaker 2: first hosting back here on ESPN seven hundred in how
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  Speaker 2: many days? How many days since I've been back in
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  Speaker 2: the air chair for the first time. I've guessed it
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  Speaker 2: on the show that doesn't count. I've not hosted a
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  Speaker 2: show since I changed jobs and became Director of Broadcasting
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  Speaker 2: at the University of Utah. So how many days between
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  Speaker 2: shows for me? If you know the answer, text me
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  Speaker 2: right now at eight seven seven three five three zero
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred. That's eight seven seven three five three zero
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred. You win a pair of tickets to see
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  Speaker 2: the Wu Tang Clan at at the Utah First Credit
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  Speaker 2: Union Amphitheater coming up in September. How many days between
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  Speaker 2: hosting shows for me on the station? A couple of
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  Speaker 2: text messages to get in before we get out of
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  Speaker 2: here today, Tom says, Hey Bill, you haven't skipped a beat.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. I appreciate that. It's I guess it's
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  Speaker 2: like they say, like riding the bike. How's your bracket? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to fill out a bracket officially anymore,
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  Speaker 2: but I did say before the tournament I think Arizona
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  Speaker 2: would win. So I've got the Wildcats in my mind.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still alive right now, so that's great. Texter eighty
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  Speaker 2: six oh eight. Hey Bill, great show. Seriously missed you
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  Speaker 2: on the radio. Well, I'm still on the radio. I'm
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  Speaker 2: do weekly hits with Sean and Spends, and I will
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  Speaker 2: from time to time be able to fill in here.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks again to my bosses at the University of Utah
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  Speaker 2: for letting me come in and do some fill in
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  Speaker 2: stuff for Sean. You'll hear me from time to time
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  Speaker 2: popping in for Sean when he's out on assignment. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: one more text message, then we'll kind of wrap it
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  Speaker 2: up here. Hey Bill, good to hear your voice again.
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  Speaker 2: My question about Utah football is how good is the
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  Speaker 2: offensive line gonna be this year? I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be good. I think it's just gonna take a minute
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  Speaker 2: or two for them to figure out where the pieces fit.
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  Speaker 2: But there's good talent in that room. All right, One more,
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  Speaker 2: Hey Bill, So great to hear you on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Can you say anything about the Utah women's basketball program.
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  Speaker 2: Rhys Ross is a huge loss to the portal. He
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  Speaker 2: is a team gonna be Okay. I've said this number
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  Speaker 2: of years now. Every team endures portal losses. They do
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  Speaker 2: they just simply do. It doesn't matter if you've had
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  Speaker 2: a great year or not a great year somewhere in between.
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  Speaker 2: The program will be fine. You just have to do
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  Speaker 2: a good job of scouting and evaluating and finding those
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  Speaker 2: to go there. Kids are gonna go where kids got
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  Speaker 2: to go, and they should. You need to go where
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  Speaker 2: you're happy, and you want wherever makes you happy. And
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  Speaker 2: if I didn't, I didn't see that. If she did
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  Speaker 2: indeed hit the portal, good for her. Good luck to her.
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  Speaker 2: She was a great contributor to the program while she
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  Speaker 2: was here. But coaches deal with this all the time,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's football or basketball or baseball or whatever it
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  Speaker 2: might happen to be. But yeah, the program will be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Gavin Peterson and his staff will do a good job
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  Speaker 2: filling those gaps, and you get prepared for it every year.
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  Speaker 2: They always say it. There's gonna be kids you know
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  Speaker 2: are going to hit the portal, and there's always one
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  Speaker 2: or two that surprise you. So we'll see how that goes.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you again to washsatch front Kea for having us
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  Speaker 2: out here today. It's been a pleasure seeing those folks again.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll see him again here down the line when
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  Speaker 2: I fill in for Sean again. Thanks to James Peterson
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  Speaker 2: for producing it, thanks for our entire promotions crew on
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  Speaker 2: site here for doing such a great job today, and
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  Speaker 2: thanks to you guys for listening and being part of
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  Speaker 2: the program. Spence is off today, so no cross talk
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  Speaker 2: with my guys. Spence. I'll probably tell you'll probably hear
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  Speaker 2: from me coming up next week. Check out the Crimson
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  Speaker 2: Corner podcast wherever you get your podcast. That's my podcast
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: now I do it each and every week. This week's
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  Speaker 2: guest my partner on the broadcast is Stevenson Sylvester. He
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  Speaker 2: joins us on this week's edition of The Crimson Corner.
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  Speaker 2: So for James Peterson and our entire crew here at
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  Speaker 2: Wassatch Front Kea. I'm Bill Riley, thanking once again Sean
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  Speaker 2: O'Connell for having me in, and Gordon Chiasa and Dale
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  Speaker 2: Murphy and Matt Mulebach. You guys, enjoy your weekend. Catch
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  Speaker 2: me tonight on the ESPN plus doing a little baseball.
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