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The Captain Of Security Operations At MCC And His OIG Deposition (Part 9) (6/2/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  with the unknown Captain slash Guard and his interview with
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  the OIG investigators. Question, Okay, can we go to the
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  shoe count slips themselves? And that should be like the
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  last page or two? Answer? See, yep, those are the
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  inmates that went to the attorney visiting, So those three
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  would have been on the count. Now you said where
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  question the very last page, it's like the actual slip.
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  Answer these question yep, So these are the slips that
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  the actual shoe for the ones that are in the shoe,
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  can you just put an initial buy it or circle
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  or whatever which one it is that would have been
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  conducted at the shoe. Answer okay, I think it's Zulu
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  Bravo Zulu Alpha. Question So z A and zb are
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  the two shoes. Answer yeah? Question all right, great, and
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  are you able to tell me who are all on
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  the slips? Answer it says s redacted and Tovin Noel
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  and redacted and that would have been for four question.
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  All right, answer for m redacted and toven Noel for
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  the four count question. Okay, and now what's the difference
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  between the ZB and the ZA. Answer. I believe that
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  ZA is a total shoe. And then you had the
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  inmates that were up on ten South. Question Okay, so
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  the ZB is at ten South answer yeah, question, so
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  we're focused on ZA. Answer yeah. Question all right, So
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  z A and that one was signed by who? Answer?
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  It looks like Noel and M redacted. Question Okay if
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  that count wasn't actually conducted, as they are the only
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  two that are responsible for falsifying that, or would it
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  be other people? Answer? This would be the whole unit question,
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  the whole unit answer the OIC, everybody was in the unit.
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  Question Okay, answer, because that means on evening watch. I
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  believe you have one, two, three, four staff and they
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  have all different range that they have a responsibility of,
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  you know what I'm saying. So they feed us, they
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  feed the ranges, They monitor the ranges by doing the
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  thirty minute rounds. So the OIC has the key. So
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  those other three staff, the number two, the three, and
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  the four, I believe they're supposed to do rounds, issue cosmetics,
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  do whatever they need to do as far as the
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  normal operations inside the unit. So if nobody counted that
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  means who count who help assist in counting in tend
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  South for the five guys, because I believe the lieutenants
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  supposed to come up normally the activities will go up.
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  I believe in do the count in Zulu bravo. So
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  that means that one of the lieutenants would be up
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  in the unit when the count was going on. Questions,
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  So in this case a lieutenant should have actually been present.
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  Answer yeah, question which lieutenant on that date? Would that
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  have been? Answer? So that would have been so redacted
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  probably took the count and then R redacted or misredacted
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  redacted would have been in ten South doing the count
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  in ten South, I believe if I can remember, it's
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  been a while because it's only per their only one
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  staff member of ten South. Question so misredacted should have
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  been present for the count at four pm? Answer yeah,
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  because I'm looking and you have ten South number one
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  was Mason, and then you had ten South number two
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  was redacted, So redacted probably was up there doing property.
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  Question Now is this only for the four or should
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  there have been a lieutenant as well as in the
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  ten twelve, three and five? Answer so s redacted? The
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  other guard jumps in what's the first damn on that one?
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  Answer redacted? And then I'm looking in here, so ten
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  South number two is redacted, which is the property officer.
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  So during the time I was hiring redacted to go
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  up there and get the property situated on the evening
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  watch question, So is yes, redacted even working in the
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  shoe at that point, I think he would have had
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  the first he gets cut off by the guard, because
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  you know that, because that would have been as redacted.
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  Let me look at the day because I don't think
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  he would have worked that because it said redacted is
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  the number one question, and that's where I'm confused. I'm
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  looking at some of these counts. Why would they even
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  have he gets cut off by the guard as redacted
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  was on overtime, so redacted was daywatch. So that means
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  Mason probably came in late. So redacted probably did the
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  count because Mason didn't get there, and now he was
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  notorious for that. Mister Mason was a good guy, but
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  he had some health problems and maybe he didn't get
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  there on time. So redacted one on ahead and since
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  the count started four, he probably went ahead and did
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  the count. Question all right, and are you able to
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  tell on that does this have a time for when
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  the count was supposedly conducted? Answer, it's all of them
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  going to reflect four question just four answer fur, It's
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  not going to say four five, four oh four. The
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  count is four. Question. Okay, So in this case, the
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  one for the overall shoe that would have been you
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  said it was that a indiscernible Are you just telling
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  that for ten South? Answer overall shoe would have been
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  Zulu Alpha. Question Yeah, and who was on that answer
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  Noel and redacted questions so redacted redacted and Noel would
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  have been the one that did the overall. But what
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  you're saying is everyone if the overall count was not conducted,
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  everyone was responsible. Answer yeah, question for falsifying that answer yep.
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  Question because everyone would have known answer, they would have
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  known question that it wasn't conducted. Answer that it wasn't conducted. Question. Now,
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  is there any kind of like, hey, we fed them,
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  that's how we did our account. Answer, no count. Because
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  I put this guidance out the difference between doing rounds
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  and accurate rounds. You know, we talked about the timeframe
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  that goes between the thirty minute rounds. So like, let's
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  just say it's eleven, you should do a round somewhere
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  between eleven and eleven thirty. You understand question yep answer.
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  If it's done at eleven twenty nine, that's fine, but
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  you should be doing it within that thirty minutes because
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  it has to be irregular. So you can put on
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  there and say I did rounds at eleven and eleven
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  thirty twelve, twelve thirty. You know you can't do it
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  like that. So let's say you know you're feeding up there.
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  You're up there feeding, but the round is not going
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  to be because you're not monitoring. You're doing a service.
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  Just because you're on the range. That means you did
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  around around is physically stopping what you're doing. So if
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  I'm feeding during the time it's the post I'm supposed
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  to do around, secure the slot, I go to the
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  beginning of the range one, two, five, seven, nine, eleven, whatever, whatever, whatever,
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  document the time that I did the round, then go
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  back to feeding. It's not while I'm up there, Okay,
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  I'll feed the range. It took me seven minutes, seven
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  point nine seconds to feed around, and so that's telling
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  me that you did a regular round for an hour
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  one hour because you was up there for forty five minutes? No,
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  did you do around? Did you can I physically watch
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  you go from cell to cell? That's around? Question? But
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  what about so can around can't be account? But can
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  account be around? Answer? No? Question? So every thirty minutes,
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  if you're doing account at four pm, you also have
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  to do around at four? Answer yep, because if I
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  go up there at four. If I go, let's say
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  I start at four at four, that's going to be
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  the round. You understand what I'm saying. Because count, I'm
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  taking accountability for the unit. So if it takes problem
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  two or three minutes account, that would be four three.
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  I count in that range. I go to the next range.
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  I'm done at four O nine, four sixteen for twenty
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  four twenty seven. Guess what between that thirty to five?
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  I got to do another round in between that timeframe,
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  not to exceed forty minutes. That's the policy question. Okay,
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  do you know anything about the shoe not conducting rounds? Answer?
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  Do I know of shoe not conducting rounds? Question? If
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  the personnel in the shoe, do you know about anything
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  about that? Of them? He gets cut off by the guard.
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  I would never have known that the staff were not,
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  because again that's not my purview to sit down there
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  and monitor the rounds. Question. I just mean like, had
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  anybody told you this, answer, No, I would have never known.
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  Until after the Epstein thing. We had to monitor the
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  camera footage of what the shoe staff did, and I
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  was appalled to what they were doing on the off hours. Question. So, now,
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  after the fact, are you aware if any of the
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  counts working ducted or not conducted? Answer? I was not
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  made aware of that. Then no account was conducted because
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  I do not monitor a camera footage of the staff. Question. No,
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  I'm saying after, I'm saying after the fact. Answer, Now
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  I know, and I was. And again when I had
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  to monitor the footage per the new directive that was
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  put for the Central Office, and the captain would have
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  to monitor x amount of hours of shoe footage per week.
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  Even after we had the situation with Epstein, staff wasn't
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  still doing it right. Question But in the what I'm
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  asking is, in those instances, do you know if the
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  four and ten and the five on these August ninth
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  and tenth, do you he gets cut off? I would
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  have thought that they would have been done, but do
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  you know do you know if they were done or not? Answer?
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  I was told that they were not conducted. Question four
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  pm as well. Answer, I was told that the officers
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  that were assigned to the morning watch shift did not
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  do rounds from the time they walked into the unit
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  until the time that they found inmate ep Stein deceased
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  in the cell. Question that I think what you're referring
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  to is August tenth, I'm saying August ninth. Answer August ninth.
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  I would not have known that question No, No, now
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  I'm talking about now. Answer now, I'm aware of it,
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  because if the inmate didn't come back from court, how
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  did you clear court? Question and did you know that
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  prior to this conversation? Though? Have you ever he gets
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  cut off by the guard. No question. So what I'm
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  saying is you didn't You have never heard up until
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  this date that it's possible that the four pm and
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  ten pm counts were not conducted. Answer that is correct.
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  Question all right, and no one's ever brought that to
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  your attention. Answer that is correct. The other guard jumps in,
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  did you what if I told you there was a
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  memo written by Officer redacted stating that he told Officer
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  redacted redacted end joiner that at one fifty pm on
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  August ninth that inmate Reyis was going WAB and possibly
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  not returning. Answer. Didn't know anything about that question, so
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  no one made you aware of that answer? Note so
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  one fifty if they knew that he was, like, I
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  remember I told you that it comes out automatically from
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  R and D. It says the X, Y and Z
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  in made won't be a returning, so he needs to
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  bring his belongings to court line. So if they knew
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  he was WAB, who informed them? Because I bet you
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  I can guarantee on that century paperwork that was generated
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  that morning that night, so that would have been the
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  seventh because it's generated on the seventh for the eighth, No,
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  the eighth for the ninth. I know I didn't have
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  WAB on it. Question Okay, So my question, what does
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  WAB stand for? Answer with all belongings. So here's my
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  question for you. If Officer adacted was aware of that,
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  he would be made aware by who. Answer, he would
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  be made aware by R and D staff. Question who
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  was the R and D staff that day? Answer? Well,
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  the only one I could because he's not on our roster.
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  He's not correctional services. I can only go by this
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  question and who is that? Answer? Miss Small? Question? Miss Small? Okay, answer,
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  But I can tell you, miss Small, she works. I
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  think her shift ended at ten, so that means she
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  would have been there around two because I think she
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  worked two to ten. I don't think on weekends. I
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  don't think R and D staff stayed past ten past ten?
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  You understand what I'm saying. So they didn't stay past ten? Question?
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  So my question is if R and D knew, should
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  the controlled document on the first page, should that have
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  been updated? Answer? Yep, This E one, This E one
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  should have been This is not a correct E one question.
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  So the E one is wrong. So at what point
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  or that point four pm count? What is that that
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  last column? What does it say? Answer which one? Sir? Question?
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  The one count? The one count shouldn't have shown one
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  for the shoe? Answer right, because it would have said too.
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  You know what I'm saying, because that means that the
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  outcount for the shoe was Jeffrey Epstein. Question. If you
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  look at it, it's the Epstein popping up on another
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  column over there under attorney visit? Is he on there?
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  On attorney visiting at check the first or second column?
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  Is there a one that says attorney answer? Okay, No, Sarah,
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  I don't see that question. Can I see it for
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  a second answer? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I pointed
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  to the first column and said it answer, okay, I'm sorry. Yes.
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  It shows that there was a total a total of
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  three inmates that was out at attorney and out at
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  an attorney visiting during the four PM count question and
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  one of them did one of those inmates belong to
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  the shoe? Answer? One of those was Zula Alpha, And
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  then at that point they also for Zulu Alpha. They're
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  showing that one inmate was four is still on out count,
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  which means possibly that it's mentioning efren Reyes. Then answer right.
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  They should have been updated by then because they got
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  the notification at one fifty that he's not coming back.
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  Answer correct question, so that E one documents wrong answer right.
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  All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here, and
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  in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
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  pick up where we left off. All the information that
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