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  Today's conversation is with physician, molecular geneticist, and award-winning researcher, Dr.
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  Michael Nels, to discuss his best-selling book, The Indoctrinated Brain, How to Successfully Fend Off the Global Attack on Your Mental Freedom.
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  This book offers a groundbreaking explanation for why mental health disorders and are exploding today.
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  And more importantly, what we must do to stop it.
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  Dr.
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  Nels, it is such a pleasure to finally have you on the show.
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  We've been chasing each other for months now to try to get a coordinated time where we could actually have this conversation.
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  So I'm so grateful to have you on the show here today.
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  Yeah, Dr.
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  T, if I might uh might call you uh this uh it's a pleasure.
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  Uh it's a pleasure is all mine.
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  I mean, I'm very grateful that you invited me and that it was so difficult to find the time is just speaks for ourselves.
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  You know, we're both pretty busy trying to educate the people and doing you're doing a great job, and I try to do my best.
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  So thankfully we are here together now.
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  You know, your book, the indoctrinated brain arguments that argues that modern society was shaped by a coordinated system of fear, propaganda, and biological psychological stressors used to impair the brain, specifically the hippocampus, which governs memory, identity, and independent thinking.
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  How does weakening the memory change a person's ability to think independently?
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  Well, um the hippocampus, as you already uh detailed, is the center of our autobiographical memory.
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  This is pretty much the area of our brain.
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  Uh by the way, hippocampus means a seahorse shaped.
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  So it's shaped like a seahorse.
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  It's a very ancient uh ancient structure in our brain here in the hippocampus.
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  We have two of them, about the size of a thump, and they are here on the in the uh temporal lobes of the brain.
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  Uh they are very old, they record everything in time and place that we have experienced, but also our future plants are uh are essentially stored there.
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  So what we think, what we have thought, what other people have told us, uh all the narratives are essentially stored there, primarily because the hippocampus has this unique feature that everything that we hear only once or experience only once, or every thought that we only have once is stored immediately and for long term.
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  And without that, we would not be able to recognize ourselves.
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  The extreme example is Alzheimer's.
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  Alzheimer's, the first area of the brain that gets destructed in destructed in Alzheimer's is the hippocampus.
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  That's why, for example, I call it hippocampal uh dementia.
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  So the hippocampus is the prime part of our brain required for thinking.
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  It is also the prime part for human curiosity and for psychological resilience.
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  And um based on all the functionalities that I was able to attribute to the hippocampus, I termed the hippocampus also our mental immune system.
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  And it is quite easily explained.
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  We have a physical immune system that fights against pathogenic microorganisms and the mental immune system, pretty much um coordinated by the hippocampal functions is the mental immune system fighting macroscopic uh pathogens, usually they come on two legs, and uh is also of course warding off or um narratives that are toxic to us, maybe dangerous to us.
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  Uh one has to uh uh imagine that we live on narratives.
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  Humans are yeah, talking uh monkeys in a way.
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  We are we are experiencing uh experiencing uh our life through history through stories.
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  We love stories, children love stories, adult people love stories, elderly people love stories.
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  We learn from others through stories.
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  We are social uh supermachines in learning, and it's always based on stories, uh which we call narratives.
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  And some narratives help us.
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  The experience of elderly people help us to get better through life.
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  Their life experience stored through the hippocampus is important for our well-being.
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  And actually, the reason why we can age beyond the age of 45, 50 years compared to, for example, chimpanzees, is the evolution of the grandmother, as I call it.
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  It was actually shown that um that if the grandmother is in a in the family, a grandmother be uh let's say eight the age 50, 55, already not able to give birth by herself anymore.
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  Um, the typical grandmother.
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  If the grandmother is existing in a family, it was shown until the end of the 19th century for every decade compared to a family where the grandmother was missing, is missing.
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  Uh, two children more, two grandchildren more became adults.
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  So her life experience and her ability to help the family uh allowed the family to have more children uh and more grandchildren from her perspective to become adults.
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  So her genes were transmitted to the next generation and even to the uh generation behind her beyond her own children.
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  And this, let's say, evolutionary advantage, which supports old age, but also experience is the reason we age way below uh below uh higher longer than um chimpanzees, for example, which die usually in the age of 50, despite that they have the same uh biology in a way that we have until the age of 50, but then their life experience is over because our ability to speak and to to learn from language and and give uh give the information to the next and even the transgenerationally to the generation beyond the next generation is so important in humans.
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  And um, this by the way, the main main reason I uh wrote many books, even the indoctrinated brain showing that Alzheimer's is not natural.
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  Alzheimer's is quite contrary to the evolution of the grandmother, because if the grandmother, if it would be natural to get Alzheimer's, become an Alzheimer patient with 60, 65, 70 years old, then the evolution of the grandmother would never would never have happened.
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  Yeah.
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  So uh this is a very natural explorer explanation that Alzheimer is unnatural.
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  And coming back to your question.
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  Without the hippocampus, we would not be able to even remember our own thoughts.
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  So thinking is dependent on a on a functioning hippocampus.
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  And uh and in in in in a total, it's depending on a functioning mental immune system.
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  I would even go so far and say what makes us human depends on the function of the mental immune system.
• 9:43
  That's really fascinating.
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  It's really really fascinating.
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  I don't think that people really understand that.
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  So thanks for for bringing that out.
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  You know, your brook your book describes uh a two step indoctrination process, break the brain with fear stress or the bioweapon and replace thinking.
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  With a narrative designed to design by the elite and those that want to control us.
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  Which do you think, which step do you think is more critical to the destruction of the brain?
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  Is it more um uh breaking the brain and with fear and stress, or is it more the implantation of the indoctrination?
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  Well, it's a two-step process.
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  Uh one doesn't go without the other.
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  Uh so the main function of the mental immune system is to ward off toxic narratives, so that we are have the mental ability to differentiate between stories that are useful for us and help us to get to to move along with with life, maybe in a in a better way.
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  And then there are narratives which harm us.
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  For example, the narrative that vaccination with an mRNA with mod mRNA is helpful, or that vitamin D doesn't help us, these are narratives which have been very toxic and killed many people.
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  So uh and and destructed even the society, divided the society.
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  These are toxic narratives.
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  And with a healthy mental immune system, you would under you would realize there's something wrong and would start to you would be curious.
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  Part of the mental immune system is curiosity, you would be curious, we would be open to um new ideas because you don't fear new ideas because you have a very strong mental or psychological resilience.
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  So the first step is of course uh the destruction of the mental immune system.
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  Otherwise, you would be more resistant to such toxic ideas.
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  You would not be indoctrinated so easily if your mental immune system would be functioning.
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  So the mental immune system, even though it's an old structure, and one would believe it's a very sturdy structure because it's the one of the oldest structures in our brain, but in order to function, which I show in my book, it requires the production of new nerve cells on a daily base.
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  Actually, the hippocampus is the only structure in our brain which is able to produce new nerve cells up to the highest age, in a in accordance with the evolution of the grandmother.
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  These new cells which are produced every day in the hippocampus are required for resilience.
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  They are required for uh for uh curiosity, they're actually the neuronal correlate for curiosity.
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  If you destruct these cells, curiosity is gone.
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  If you destruct these cells, you have no resilience and you tend to become depressed or led by anxiety.
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  And these new nerve cells have the function also to as to act as index neurons for new uh new memories.
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  So if these cells are not produced, new memories cannot be formed without destructing older memories.
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  So if your memory capacity is exhausted and new nerve cells are new nerve cells are uh available, then new ideas, if they manage to to get into the hippocampus, they will actually override previous ideas or previous memories.
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  So though it's a two-step process.
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  The first step, of course, is to destroy the production of new nerve cells, and then of course new ideas will be unfiltered for your brain, they cannot be judged against previous memories.
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  Uh you are more easily uh led by fear.
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  Fear will lead to emotions that tend to support the implantation of the thoughts, uh the narratives into your brain, and this combination leads to a situation where the new narrative becomes part of yourself.
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  So your old self will be gradually destroyed by the narratives that are implanted, and um and then a new narrative essentially becomes your new new self.
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  And this combination is of course problematic because you are first not open to new thoughts anymore.
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  Everybody who challenges this, let's say, toxic narrative, which became part of yourself, uh, is uh regarded as somebody who invades my privacy, who who because you don't discuss the narrative anymore as a neutral idea because it's part of yourself, it's almost like you step on other people's toes once you discuss uh actually just science.
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  It's not science anymore, you discuss personalities.
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  And this is a real real problem, but uh it was the basic idea which led me realize the the story behind that, the scientific story behind that, because I experienced this even in my family.
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  Some family members, unfortunately the close ones, uh have um have understood the same thing that I understood, but they also take care of the hippocampus like I do.
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  But there is other parts, for example, in my family, uh more extended part of my family who don't listen to my understanding how we can make sure that the hippocampus is happy, and though their hippocampus is not so happy, but they uh believe that's just normal how they feel.
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  Uh and once such bad narratives come, they actually ingest them.
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  They just they become part of themselves, and and these new narratives are then their dogma, and you cannot talk to them anymore.
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  And this is what I experienced, and I wanted to understand why, and because I was working on the understanding how Alzheimer's comes about, and I published my my ideas as a unified theory of Alzheimer's in 2016 as a research paper.
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  Uh, from this basic understanding, it became clear to me how indoctrination happened, particularly it's through the measurements uh to the stuff that the government did to us in 2020.
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  You know, you may you mentioned in passing there, you said you take care of your hippocampus.
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  How do we take care of our hippocampus?
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  Well, it's the same idea that I already published in in the Unified Theory um paper, uh, and also in my book, uh, for example, the exhausted brain, which is also been published in 2025 now.
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  It's the predecessor of the indoctrinated brain, it's the exhausted brain.
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  It shows why we are exhausted in the evening when we have worked hard and why we recover the next morning.
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  It all has to do with that these new nerve cells are produced while we are sleeping in large quantities, and that's why our brain is refreshed when we are waking up in the morning.
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  And of course, based on the on the circumstance that the hippocampus is producing new nerve cells, he actually has the ability to grow as we age.
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  About one to two percent by volume each year.
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  Uh but the the uh the reality is it's not growing in our society on average, it's shrinking.
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  The hippocampus shrinks by 1.4% volume percent each year uh in our society.
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  And so what is the reason for that?
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  In my paper, unified theory, I identified that all the risk factors that we know about Alzheimer's all converge on their mechanism, meaning they uh stop the production of new nerve cells, being it toxins, which under the I call it the law of the maximum, certain things are not allowed up to a certain threshold, and if we are above the threshold, then um the production of new nerve cells keys, or the law of the minimum, which means our brain, like every cell in our body, of course, but particularly also our brain, needs a certain requirement, uh has a certain requirement of minima things that have to be there at a minimum level, being it's uh uh trace elements, vitamins, but also a daily hug, you know, uh a minimum of curiosity each day, a sense of a purpose in life, uh a certain amount of physical activity or at least a certain amount of social activity.
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  If any of these minima uh that we are are required for mental health is missing, then the um these cells don't grow.
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  So um so it's actually uh astonishing that the this the part of our brain that is that makes us human that gives us all the abilities that that detail what humans are, uh the mental immune system is at the one side our strongest weapon to survive at the same time it's the weakest spot in our brain because it it is dependent on the production of new nerve cells.
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  Do you think that um with the COVID-19 jab?
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  We know that the spike protein and probably the lipid nanoparticles and other things that were in the ingredients in that jab that we still don't know everything that was there, and we know that they did cross the blood-brain barrier.
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  Do you think that they specifically uh attacked the hippocampus, or was this more of a global event?
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  Is that caused as it crossed the blood-brain barrier?
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  I think uh it was done on purpose.
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  It's but it's just a belief.
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  I don't have a uh, of course, I can't prove that, but uh it there's so many coincidences that um uh that it makes it hard for me to believe it's not on purpose.
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  So, first of all, SARS-CoV-1, you know, in 2001-2002, uh, which tried to become a pandemic, but of course didn't have it didn't have the support of a broad PCR essay.
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  Um so um so uh when it tried to become a pandemic, it was clear for the few.
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  People who have been infected that the spike protein is able to trigger what we call a neuroinflammation, inflammation of the brain.
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  And in my Alzheimer's researcher, could show that the production of new nerve cells is immediately stopped if neuroinflammation is started.
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  So neuroinflammation stops the production of new nerve cells.
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  We call this sickness behavior.
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  Some people call it now long COVID or postVec.
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  But the point is once the production of new nerve cells is shut down, we don't feel like socializing.
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  We don't, we are we lose our natural curiosity.
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  We like to remove ourselves from society.
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  Best we go into uh in our bed and sleep, don't want to leave the bed.
• 20:51
  Well, and why?
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  Uh sickness behavior is healthy, because neuroinflammation has a cause.
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  One cause could be I was hit on my head, you know, I have brain injury, and of course, in this situation, it's better to stay in bed.
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  Or I have an infection, which means I have an inflammation in my brain, which also transpires into the brain.
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  Neuroinflammation makes sure that I don't mingle with other people, infect them, and that I go back and stay on my own and uh recover and um yeah, don't harm society.
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  So for short term, this is a good thing.
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  In the long term, of course, it harms the hippocampus and leads to its shrinkage.
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  So uh in 2006, the paper was published that despite protein of SARS-CoV-1, of course, at the time it was just SARS-CoV.
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  Nobody knew that SARS-CoV-2 would be coming.
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  But SARS-CoV-1 was able to uh harm the hippocampus.
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  And when that was published, um, I was intrigued when the Nobel Prize winner in 2023, you know, for the mRNA uh idea, uh, were telling us that they had the idea 15 years ago, which was pretty much the time when it was shown that a spike protein can harm the hippocampus and destroy our mental immune system.
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  So uh for me that was totally clear that this is not a coincidence.
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  If you know for 15 years that you uh develop a technology that introduces the spike protein into the brain, particularly uh that the furine cleavage site that was introduced by the Wuhan lab or by ideas from Eco Health Alliance, you know, we incor in combination with or in with support of the DAPA of the United States.
• 22:38
  Uh when the Euphruine cleavage site was introduced, it was clear that now the spike protein, the dangerous part of the spike protein, the S1 subunit, after the molecular cleavage of the spy protein two parts, S1, S2, and the S1 is interacting in the brain with the receptor of the immune cells in the brain.
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  This receptor is called TLR4.
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  Once this receptor recognizes the S1 subunit, it triggers immediately a strong neuroinflammatory response.
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  And if the spike protein stays for long term in the brain, then of course we have a lengthy uh neuroinflammatory process.
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  And this lengthy neuroinflammatory process, of course, uh shuts down the uh mental immune system permanently.
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  And so um, so that's the step one that we talked about.
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  You you essentially stop the mental immune system from functioning.
• 23:34
  You don't produce new, what I call index neurons uh uh that uh important for remembering new stuff.
• 23:42
  And so then you are uh punished essentially every day in the mainstream media with new ideas, what uh what is so dangerous, and if you leave the house at eight o'clock in the evening, then it's particularly dangerous.
• 23:57
  And if you do it, then you get a um you you could end up in prison.
• 24:02
  So all these informations, um, all this information that is uh so important to survive in such a time becomes now suddenly part of the of your of yourself because you cannot differentiate these thoughts with previous thoughts because you don't have these new nerve cells that help you to differentiate.
• 24:24
  And so the second step requires the first step.
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  And the first step, uh, the spike protein, but also the measures in 2020 were already part of that.
• 24:34
  And uh in my book, I actually compare these measures with what which was learned during the Korean war, you know, from prisoners of war.
• 24:45
  Um it was published in 1956, uh, that certain prisoners, um Navy pilots from the US Air Force were essentially indoctrinated by the Chinese government to become communists, you know.
• 25:04
  That was really strange.
• 25:05
  You know, they f were fighting essentially for capitalism and democracy and became communists.
• 25:11
  And uh the American um yeah, government, uh the military, of course, tried to understand what happened there, and they uh published in 1956 their results and showed how this indoctrination process worked, and I was able to compare this indoctrination process, which was which with what was done with with essentially the society uh worldwide, and it's like one-to-one.
• 25:37
  It's uh pretty much every detail of this uh plan that yeah, the United States learned about was essentially transformed to um global attack on the mental um yeah, capacity of the of the people.
• 25:53
  Well, that's a whole lot to take in and to to digest because it's so important to understand what happened during COVID because I think that people still are are a little bit blind to that.
• 26:05
  So I think this is a good place for us to take a quick station break.
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  Today our conversation is with physician, molecular geneticist, and award-winning researcher, Dr.
• 34:59
  Michael Nels, discussing his book, The Best Selling Book.
• 35:03
  Honestly, everybody should read this if you haven't already.
• 35:22
  Let me tell you just a little bit more about today's guest.
• 35:25
  Dr.
• 35:25
  Michael Nels is a physician and a molecular genetic geneticist.
• 35:29
  Why am I stumbling over that word today?
• 35:31
  Specializing in immunology, he deciphered the genetic causes of dozens of diseases at international research institutions.
• 35:39
  His discovery of a key gene in immunity development was honored as a pillar of immunology.
• 35:46
  For his pioneering findings on Alzheimer disease, he was awarded the Hans Prize for molecular psychiatry by the Rostock University Hospital.
• 35:55
  Dr.
• 35:55
  Nels has written several best-selling books.
• 35:58
  One is on the importance of lithium, and we're going to have him back a little bit later this year to talk about that.
• 36:03
  I've started to read through that, and it is another fascinating dissertation on his great research into the brain.
• 36:11
  Dr.
• 36:11
  Nels, welcome so back to the show.
• 36:13
  We're so glad to have you here today.
• 36:16
  Dr.
• 36:16
  T, thank you very much for having me back.
• 36:20
  You know, during COVID, one of the things we talked about a lot, and I talked about it a lot on this show, and when I was guesting on other shows, is how they learned how to weaponize fear.
• 36:31
  Do you think what is more detrimental to the hippocampus and to the brain in general?
• 36:35
  The intensity of the fear or the duration of the fear.
• 36:40
  Well, uh, actually I have a slide on that or figure actually in the book.
• 36:44
  It's I think it's a mixture of both at the end.
• 36:46
  I mean, uh short fear is certainly not a big problem because our brain can um compensate for that.
• 36:54
  Actually, uh, we learn by fear.
• 36:57
  Uh it's not a bad thing.
• 36:58
  Uh, the long-term fear is a huge problem if fear doesn't disappear.
• 37:03
  So if uh the danger doesn't disappear, or do we if we don't find a solution against the danger?
• 37:10
  Because fear triggers, of course, our brain to particularly our mental immune system, which we have discussed already, to find solutions.
• 37:17
  Either we find them ourselves or we find them through uh people around us.
• 37:22
  We are social learning animals and we learn quickly and uh efficiently.
• 37:28
  And um, so um, so there's usually somebody somewhere who has an idea how to solve a problem.
• 37:37
  I mean, we are not alone, you know.
• 37:39
  So uh so I think uh this is very important, but constant fear uh that is not resolved, of course, is detrimental to the brain.
• 37:48
  It leads to a neuroinflammation because nerve cells that are overloaded by activity, uh, exudate essentially uh products which are usually in the cell to the outside.
• 38:02
  These uh products uh recognized by the immune cells of our brain.
• 38:07
  Um these uh they're called microclear, and these immune cells recognize these products as um danger associated molecular patterns, damps, the abbreviation, danger associated molecular patterns, which are very closely related by their function to the so-called passogen associated molecular patterns, meaning PAMPS.
• 38:32
  PAMP, one of the PAMS we talked about already is the spike from SOSTOF2.
• 38:37
  Spike protein from phosphorus 2 is a so-called PAMP.
• 38:41
  Uh pathogen associated molecular pattern recognized by TLF4, triggering uh neuroinflammation.
• 38:48
  Danger associated molecular patterns or damage associated molecular patterns, which are identical, but both have a D, also with uh used uh can be exchanged.
• 38:59
  But the point is words can be almost like um like uh physical uh hits against the brain.
• 39:06
  Words could be really like strokes against the brain.
• 39:10
  And so if um in both cases, they trigger damage to brain cells, the exudation of um of DAMS recognized by the same receptor that recognizes PAMPS.
• 39:23
  So again, TLF4 is triggered, uh activating these cells to produce a strong neuroinflammatory response.
• 39:31
  So constant fear leads to constant production of DAMS, leads to constant um neuroinflammation, and then we enter a uh a vicious cycle because neuroinflammation cuts down the production of new nerve cells and hippocampus, which are the neurona correlate for uh psychological resilience.
• 39:52
  So if this is cut down, our cyclotter resilience goes down, and we are even more fearful and even more stressed.
• 40:00
  out if uh certain if circumstances are changing or not changing if they are if if we live in a fearful environment and this means we have a vicious cycle and it's very hard for people to leave this cycle and actually they need the help from others otherwise it's not possible and uh one of the triggers uh that I introduced very early on to to leave this vicious cycle of neuroinflammation is a word they already mentioned it's lithium lithium is a natural antidote for this vicious cycle wow you know it seems as though that so many people are incapable of seeing what the jabs have done to society they're not willing to admit that they that they even caused any harm I I spoke at a conference this last weekend and people were still talking about that their children will not speak to them because of their position on not getting a COVID 19 jab and it seems as though there's uh people were able to see it clearly and other people just bought into the indoctrination that that is cause continual disruption of people just based on a medical product is this brain indoctrination that people experience during COVID that you must take the jab and you're protecting grandma and you must travel and all the excuses that people came up with is this indoctrination reversible oh absolutely absolutely we know it's reversible because uh I was just talking about these pilots in the Korean war actually some returned they were indoctrinated uh heavily indoctrinated by the communist idea but some actually returned to the United States and after a few months a year this uh indoctrination essentially reversed as long as we are in in contact with others um there's always the possibility but what what I think is very important is that you restart the production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus it's very important so that you're open to new ideas, new thoughts and this is critical.
• 42:06
  For example United States there is a vaccination now available I think since 2021 it's also available now in Germany or Europe since 2025.
• 42:18
  It's a vaccination against Alzheimer's it's very very dangerous.
• 42:22
  It's also a very bad uh narrative that this injection of antibodies it's an immunization against Alzheimer would be helpful.
• 42:32
  It's based on a on a theory that um is completely completely contrary to my unified theory that a single molecule in the brain that we actually inherit is part of our genetic program is causing Alzheimer's and we have to essentially attack this protein and uh I I come to the point immediately this protein is required that the hippocampus can work.
• 42:58
  So we need this protein is called beta amyloid we need this protein for the synapses in our hippocampus to form new memories and to protect these memories once they are formed.
• 43:10
  So and this protein now is becoming is now the target for Alzheimer's therapy that you attack this protein by antibodies and uh and the um the Mayo clinic or Mayo clinic I don't know if I pronounce it correctly the Mayo clinic in the United States you see a fact sheet on the side effects of this of these antibodies and one major side effect is that false beliefs cannot be corrected anymore by information.
• 43:41
  Wow so once you're indoctrinated and you get this this uh this Alzheimer's therapy you are permanently indoctrinated meaning uh you can you know change uh the indoctrination by new facts but your hippocampus must be functioning and um so I'm coming back to the question that you asked me before maybe I answered it not correctly or not fully uh you asked me what I do to protect my hippocampus and uh based on the unified theory of Alzheimer's disease everything that allows my hippocampal neuron neural cells to be um product produced uh it's called adult hippocampal neurogenesis that's a technical term adult because I'm an adult is still happening in my brain it happens if even if I'm 80 or 90 years old the production rate is still pretty much is the rate of an 18 year old so it's uh a very important function mental immune system must work until the highest age based on the evolution of the grandmother so every risk factor that I could identify that is too as the risk factor against Alzheimer's once it's um I don't know radiation from micro from from from mobile phones next time it's uh it's um it's it's I don't know uh plastic plastic stuff or or it's uh other toxins or it's a lack of vitamin D or lack of whatever all these factors converge that they uh limit the production of new nerve cells and hippocampus and so it's very simple in order to make sure that I never experience Alzheimer's I just have to remove these risk factors or reduce them as much as I can and it's very easy to understand as the law of the minimum which are which I already mentioned and the law of the maximum.
• 45:34
  Law of the minimum means everything that my brain requires I have to give the brain and it if one thing is missing it doesn't help me if I add twice the amount of something else.
• 45:45
  So if uh if my brain requires for example lithium with it which is an essential trace element I can eat as much potassium, magnesium or whatever it doesn't help me the lithium is missing and I have a problem.
• 45:59
  Actually that lithium is an essential trace element was published not only in my unified theory and now in my new book but it's also uh it was also published in on August 6, 2025 by Harvard University in Nature.
• 46:14
  They showed that maybe the lack of lithium as an essential trace element is maybe one of the major causes of Alzheimer's which I described already 10 years ago and it's in all my in all of my books.
• 46:27
  So that's this law of the minimum.
• 46:29
  Once you make sure made sure that nothing is missing based on the law of the minimum then you get can essentially attack the law of the maximum you can show look at what is what toxins might actually cause my brain not working right it could be many things but once you have covered the law of the minimum then you are more able to s to compensate for toxins.
• 46:55
  Yeah so the law of the minimum is the leading law very important to know.
• 47:01
  So um because it's it's it's impossible for us to omit all toxins.
• 47:06
  I mean it's just impossible we have to use maybe a mobile phone and um radiation which is not good for my brain but I can endure a certain amount because I don't lack any minima you know at there's nothing lacking missing that the brain needs to function at all.
• 47:25
  There are actually studies out there for example in Inuit you know people who live in the north of uh of Greenland um they for example eat fish their main food is fish and fish we know is full of a lot of toxins you know meanwhile and so we know these toxins cause Alzheimer's but because the fish contains pretty much everything that the brain needs it fulfills the law of the minimum and it was identified that inuits who eat traditionally of course have a lot of toxins in their brain um mercury and and and and other stuff that is not healthy for the brain but they don't develop Alzheimer's why because the law of the minimum is fulfilled you know so the law of the minimum is what we need so that the brain can work and grow particularly the hippocampus can grow our whole life and then of course we have the mental capacity to reduce every other thing that comes from the law of the maximum and one thing that the law of the maximum certainly has to recognize is that we don't need any spike protein in our brain.
• 48:33
  So once the law of the minimum and the functioning mental immune system tells me the spike protein in my brain is not a good thing, I certainly are not willing to get a shot so um give us a little bit of teaser about your new book on a lithium and I think that you're probably referring to like lithium oretate in like small doses as opposed to like the prescription level lithium at like very high doses that could be quite toxic to people give us a little teaser about what about what your new book on a lithium is about well it's you already described it in a certain way um what I was able to show is that lithium is probably one of the oldest trace elements that living cells are actually using.
• 49:17
  There's uh not a single function in our cells that is not dependent on the on the on the presence of lithium.
• 49:26
  Actually without lithium life would not be possible.
• 49:29
  So it fulfills all criteria of an essential trace element certain functions are so important that and that they are so old I was able to trace their function back to the first living yeah living matter on our planet.
• 49:45
  It's very clear that the unified it's called um last you um last um luca last uni universal common ancestor that's the word last universal common ancestor Luca it was
• 50:00
  Published recently in Nature, lived uh he lived maybe 4.2 billion years ago on this planet.
• 50:07
  And I was able that all species that live on this planet bacteria, insects, plants, tomatoes, you know, what you name it, every animal, every species, every plant, um, every human, uh, all have certain mechanisms in their cells that are common to all of them.
• 50:29
  And these common mechanisms, two of them which are critical uh for life to sustain life and to live a healthy life, uh, are dependent on lithium.
• 50:40
  So it's totally clear lithium is an essential trace element.
• 50:44
  And I know that we have if a lack of lithium will affect how we live.
• 50:50
  It is the major, one of the major causes of chronic diseases, particularly diseases of the brain.
• 50:56
  So one mechanism that is so ancient is uh what we call the mechanism of autophagy, the ability to eat ourselves, meaning in uh in naturally that uh cell products like matochondria or proteins which are dysfunctional, uh, are essentially eaten up by the cell, recycled, and put uh and used the material is used to produce new proteins and new mitochondria.
• 51:22
  So mitochondria phage uh is correlated or is in concert with uh mitochondria genetigenes, producing new mitochondria.
• 51:32
  And this process is um is triggered by a protein called inocetole monophosphatase, and this protein is requiring lithium to function.
• 51:44
  And it's also a basic mechanism against viral invasion.
• 51:48
  So it's the most the oldest mechanism, natural mechanism that cells have to fight uh incoming viruses.
• 51:58
  Because if a virus enters a cell, it usually takes over the cellular machinery to reproduce itself.
• 52:06
  But the mechanism of autophagy can be used to just digest the virus and recycle its its parts.
• 52:14
  So uh there's a company competition essentially between viruses and autophagy.
• 52:19
  And this is an explanation why when you take lithium, you are less prone to infection.
• 52:26
  Um actually it was shown that people who have a severe infection with uh COVID, severe enough that they had to go to a hospital, and it was not clear if they had to go to intensive care, if they had to go on a machine for breathing.
• 52:43
  If they were given lithium, they were out of the hospital in half the time.
• 52:48
  So uh this is published in 2022, but it was already known that it works in 2020.
• 52:53
  It was published in August 2020, peer reviewed.
• 52:56
  But nobody, of course, cared.
• 52:57
  Nobody was interested in that.
• 52:59
  I published a book about this.
• 53:01
  So lithium is highly essential, particularly the orthophagia is very important because brain cells need to be able to recycle their cellular components for a hundred years.
• 53:14
  Because we can become we can get a hundred years, we can become a hundred year old.
• 53:19
  And nerve cells that have been created when we are born still have to function when we are 100 years old.
• 53:27
  And the only way they can do that is by autophagy.
• 53:31
  And uh that the itsterior of the cell meant is maintained because the synopsis, sometimes with 10,000 of other nerve cells, are what we are.
• 53:41
  They store information about ourselves, about our behavior, about our memories, and um, but the interior of the cell would essentially compromise its function if uh autophagy wouldn't work.
• 53:56
  And this is one of the reasons that lithium, as a trigger for autophagy uh and uh so cell survival is so important.
• 54:05
  And that was known already since the 1970s, because studies were published at that time, which showed that if you are lucky enough to live in an area where where a little bit more of lithium is in your tap water, you are less prone to develop Alzheimer's.
• 54:22
  Wow, well, Michael, we've got like one minute left here on our show today.
• 54:27
  And if you know notice me looking down periodically while we were talking, it was because I was taking notes on the things you were saying because they were so important, and the way that you said them were so um resonated and easy to understand.
• 54:40
  We're in the last minute or so of our show here.
• 54:43
  Why should people buy your book and where can they get it?
• 54:47
  Well, the book is available in every bookstore, I hope.
• 54:50
  At least you can get it over the internet.
• 54:52
  And why should they get it?
• 54:53
  Well, they can listen to me here, and maybe they understand what I'm talking about.
• 54:57
  But once you read a book, you have a deep understanding.
• 55:00
  Once you have a deep understanding, you are more than just uh a consumm of the information.
• 55:06
  You become um uh uh yeah, a crystallization point for others for this information because you can give it to others with a yeah, with a strong understanding, and it's very important that everybody who listens to us here becomes an somebody who can yeah, propagate the ideas that I have written about because it's so important to educate the society.
• 55:30
  Absolutely.
• 55:31
  Well, I want to thank you so much for your work for your brilliance for being able to take this very complex information and boil it down into bite-sized bits that people can, general people can understand it and be able to apply it.
• 55:44
  And I'm looking forward to having you back again, so we can really deep uh dive deep into your book on a lithi on lithium.
• 55:51
  Um you just left a little tease out there, and I think that's really great.
• 55:54
  But the indoctrinated brain really is the core source of what happened to us during COVID and why we can never let this happen again.
• 56:02
  So I want to thank you so much for joining us.
• 56:04
  I want to thank everybody who joined us in listening us today or in the future on this very important topic of the indoctrinated brain with Dr.
• 56:12
  Michael Nels.
• 56:13
  So I want to with that, I want to close out with one of my favorite verses from the Bible.
• 56:17
  I close all of my podcasts with, whether it is live or prerecorded, which is Romans 12.12.
• 56:22
  Rejoice in hope, be patient in trouble, and be persistent in prayer.
• 56:26
  Lean into God, trust him for everything.
• 56:28
  He will never let you down, even though your time frame may not be his time frame, he's always with you.
• 56:33
  So I will see you tomorrow or the next time, right here on the Tenpenny Files on AmericaOutloud.news, iHeartRadio, any podcast platform that you would subscribe to, or go to DR10Pity.com on the podcast tab, and you can find everything there.
• 56:47
  Thank you so much, everybody, and thank you for being here again, Michael.
• 56:51
  Goodbye, everybody, and God bless.