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180. Kira Stokes, Trainer & Founder of The Stoked Method · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abadi here come to you live from
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  Speaker 2: chatting with Kira Stokes. She's a celebrity trainer and founder
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  Speaker 2: of the Kira Stokes Fit app based here in New
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  Speaker 2: twelve people in one day to now coaching thousands via
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  Speaker 2: It's something that I have certainly struggled with in the past,
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  Speaker 3: Today. I am chatting with Kia Stokes.
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  Speaker 2: She is a trainer to many, everyone from God, good
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  Speaker 2: friends of mine, to people like you may know Ashley Graham,
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  Speaker 2: Shane Mitchell. She has her award winning Stoked method. I
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  Speaker 2: know you are serted up. How many certifications do you have?
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  Speaker 1: I think, well, you know my website needs to be redone.
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  Speaker 1: I think probably whatever it might be thirteen fourteen now
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  Speaker 1: depending you know, COVID caused me to like dive in
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  Speaker 1: even deeper because we've had extra time.
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  Speaker 2: So fourteen a lot of certifications, a lot of certifications,
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  Speaker 2: A trainer, I'd loved trainer by all.
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  Speaker 3: Kira, how you doing today?
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  Speaker 4: I'm fantastic. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm stoke, good good, I'm soaked man feels appropriate, We're
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Kira Stokes. But was that like a
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  Speaker 2: natural naming situation for you or was that still like
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  Speaker 2: kind of difficult to come up with.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is that I laugh about it
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  Speaker 1: now because I think back to when I first began
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  Speaker 1: my career as a trainer. I did not you stoked
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  Speaker 1: at all. Like it didn't it's so weird. But it
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  Speaker 1: didn't even click in my brain that that was a
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  Speaker 1: word that really could encompass a feeling, a method, a
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  Speaker 1: type of training until about honestly ten years into my
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  Speaker 1: career when I when and that, which is when I
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  Speaker 1: really realized that I had a method versus just a
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  Speaker 1: way of training people like I think that's also in
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  Speaker 1: my brain where I started to feel like it was
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  Speaker 1: the right time to call it a method because it
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  Speaker 1: had been tested and proven and used on actual human beings.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, Stokes, you I'll say, like it's the
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  Speaker 1: perfect last name. It was like I was born a brand, right.
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  Speaker 1: I wish it was Stoked, but it's Stokes and just
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  Speaker 1: through the dion there. You know, you got to do
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  Speaker 1: what you got to do. And uh, you know the
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  Speaker 1: word I think really does it resonates with me in
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  Speaker 1: so many ways because the word stoked means, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a feeling or a state of exhilaration or excitement, right,
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  Speaker 1: and my method, I really hope that it does excite
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  Speaker 1: people about fitness and takes them to a higher state
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  Speaker 1: of self awareness and one that they're really pumped about.
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  Speaker 2: Before we wind it back and get into a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of your backstory, I'm curious, what does the Stoked method,
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  Speaker 2: what does that really entail? Explain to us a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about what that looks like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's actually quite hard for
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  Speaker 1: me to define, and I feel like it gets harder
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  Speaker 1: as the method evolves. You know, it is the boiler plate,
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  Speaker 1: like if I were to put give you like you know,
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  Speaker 1: as it's written, it is a science backed functional flow
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  Speaker 1: of movement, you know, and there's so many different ways
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  Speaker 1: to break that down because there are so many different
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  Speaker 1: classes or workouts that comprise the Stokes method. But really,
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  Speaker 1: what from the feeling aspect or side of things. It
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  Speaker 1: is that self awareness and that connection and that mind
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  Speaker 1: body connection that makes movement so much more efficient and effective.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the best way to describe it. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a book or a chapter in a book,
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  Speaker 1: and that every word when you read a book or
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  Speaker 1: you reading a chapter of a book, every word matters, right.
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  Speaker 1: You can't skip a word because if you skip a word,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to miss something. And the same, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: should hold true with movement. Every move including the transitions
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  Speaker 1: in and out of movement, should matter.
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  Speaker 4: It should make sense.
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  Speaker 2: So someone that hears all of that, they're like, cool,
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  Speaker 2: sounds good, But I'm still not sure what I'm doing
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  Speaker 2: when I come to do some sort of Stoked method class.
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  Speaker 2: So give me a snippet of what that could look like,
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  Speaker 2: although I understand that we're not going to get the
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  Speaker 2: whole picture from one class.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, perfect example. I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think the best you know, particular workout to use
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  Speaker 1: as an example is Stoked Shred three sixty, which you know,
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  Speaker 1: the names of all of my classes have honestly evolved.
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  Speaker 4: Or changed over the years.
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  Speaker 1: And kind of you know, because my movement evolves and
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  Speaker 1: as everybody's right, so, but shred this particular class. I
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  Speaker 1: think the first thing it was called back in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety oh my gosh, nineteen ninety five, it was total
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  Speaker 1: body conditioning, you know, and then it became again total
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  Speaker 1: body three six, and then once I realized my name,
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  Speaker 1: which was Stoked, it became Stoke three sixty, and then
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  Speaker 1: it became Stokes Shred three sixty. And you know, in
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  Speaker 1: terms of a basic circuit that you would experience there,
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  Speaker 1: it's a combination of I hate to call it hit
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  Speaker 1: training because to me, hit training, you know, as we know,
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  Speaker 1: you really challenge your body, like intensity wise, you are
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  Speaker 1: like at the pinnacle of your intensity and then you
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  Speaker 1: break and you give your body that time to recover.
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  Speaker 1: That's what hit training is, right, It's allowing yourself to
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  Speaker 1: heart rate to come up, heart rate to come down. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in stokeshread three sixty, it's almost it's Stoke style hits.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, your heart rate's going to come down, but
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  Speaker 1: you're never going to be stock. You're not going to
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  Speaker 1: be quote resting, You're going to be performing that transition
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  Speaker 1: move that will take you right back to the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the circuit. So say you're doing a squat press, right,
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  Speaker 1: you've got dumbbells. You're doing a squat press. You then
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  Speaker 1: turn that particular move into a power movement. So you
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  Speaker 1: take the squat press, you put the way down, and
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  Speaker 1: you take it into a squat broad jump and then
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  Speaker 1: you know, hands down, whatever shoulder tabsn't be up, whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is. You're progressing a strength move into a power movement. Then,
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  Speaker 1: because that move at some point has your hands on
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  Speaker 1: the ground, you keep those hands on the ground. You
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  Speaker 1: go into mountain climbers and there's your cardiocore, and then
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  Speaker 1: you do your active mobility where one foot comes outside
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  Speaker 1: the hand and then the other. So you're creating the
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  Speaker 1: story of like ebbs and flows of energy and ebbs
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  Speaker 1: and cloths of how you're taxing your body strength, power, endurance,
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  Speaker 1: mobility to make bring yourself back to the beginning, which
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  Speaker 1: is the time where you're like, okay, reset and refocus, right.
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  Speaker 1: So it's about it's kind of the shifting of energy
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  Speaker 1: throughout a circuit and learning to embrace that and not.
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  Speaker 1: I think what people have you know, find most interesting
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  Speaker 1: when they first try the method is they'll say, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, like do we ever take a break, do
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  Speaker 1: we like, where's the break? And I'm like, well, your
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  Speaker 1: break is that active mobility exercise where your heart rate's
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  Speaker 1: coming down, but you're still moving and you're still preparing
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  Speaker 1: your body to continue with movement rather than just stopping
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  Speaker 1: and standing and looking at your phone or texting or
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  Speaker 1: you know. It's like you have got to be one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent focused in that moment. And once you give
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  Speaker 1: this a chance and you give yourself, your complete self
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  Speaker 1: to this workout, there's nothing like it.
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  Speaker 2: I love this description and it begs the question that
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  Speaker 2: do you remember the first time in your life where
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  Speaker 2: movement felt like that to you, where it just felt
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  Speaker 2: absolutely so I want to say utopian, but that feels
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  Speaker 2: like a little bit aggressive, maybe just like absolutely absolutely
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  Speaker 2: so ideal that you are beyond happiness.
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  Speaker 4: I think that. And again, it took me years to
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  Speaker 4: realize where where my.
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  Speaker 1: Desire within the method to create this constant flow of
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  Speaker 1: movement came from. But it it was one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: of my background in gymnastics. Like when I started to
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  Speaker 1: really tear.
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  Speaker 4: Down, like okay, how did I why does my brain
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  Speaker 4: work this way?
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  Speaker 1: Why why is it so hard for me to just
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  Speaker 1: be like no, if you're on the ground, just get
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  Speaker 1: up right, just stand up. And it's like, because when
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  Speaker 1: you watch a floor routine, do you ever see a
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  Speaker 1: gymnast not connect one move to the next. There's always
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  Speaker 1: a way in and always a way out. That's gorgeous, right,
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  Speaker 1: So you know in my brain, that's like how my
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  Speaker 1: brain works. It's how it's constantly thinking, is like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're up, how do we get down? But in a
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  Speaker 1: way that makes sense for your body, in a way
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  Speaker 1: that connects your body. So I think, to me, when
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  Speaker 1: I look back on my love of movement, where it
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  Speaker 1: stems from, I really think it's that what Resonate made
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  Speaker 1: most about gymnastics was that constant, that constant flow and
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  Speaker 1: just feeling so connected all the time.
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  Speaker 3: And how old were you when you started doing gymnastics.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was seven in early seven, in early seven.
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  Speaker 1: But like, it wasn't you know, it wasn't a gymnastics
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  Speaker 1: experience where I wasn't going to the gym every day
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  Speaker 1: for gymnastics. It wasn't that, you know, I wasn't destined
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  Speaker 1: for that kind of relationship with gymnastics. It was also
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  Speaker 1: my parents saying, like we're not driving you to gymnastics
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  Speaker 1: every day. Like it's not like kind of seeing like
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  Speaker 1: she's okay, she's good, but she's not like fantastic, like
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  Speaker 1: well twice a week, twice a week's a week is good,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so I think but I will say that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, gymnastics in general, just the that focus on
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  Speaker 1: core strength, right, that focus that in need. It's such
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  Speaker 1: a base of gymnastics in general, is having that awareness
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  Speaker 1: of your core. I can't I'm so grateful for that, right,
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  Speaker 1: because it's very rare that in sports that is like
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  Speaker 1: the core that's really as you know, the core focused.
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  Speaker 1: But it truly is, and I think it really made
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  Speaker 1: me just grow up with that strength and the core
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  Speaker 1: that I know. It gave me that at a young age.
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  Speaker 2: And that's so important because as you're kind of getting
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  Speaker 2: at here, like that's something that so many athletes don't
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  Speaker 2: take the time to really home in on. Especially I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a huge runner. I mean everything that we do,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of what your sport is, it stems from the core.
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  Speaker 2: Yet so many of us don't take the time to
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  Speaker 2: really give that that important attention that it really needs.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I actually I just did a post about it yesterisks.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like every once in a while people need
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  Speaker 1: a refresher on the fact that it's not your you know,
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  Speaker 1: abs are great, right, Like people think core that if
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  Speaker 1: they don't know, if they don't know better, they're not
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  Speaker 1: taught better. Core to them is just ab strength, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's just being strong in your abs. But it's not
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  Speaker 1: Your core is literally everything in your body aside from
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  Speaker 1: your lips, like, aside from the arms and legs, here's
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  Speaker 1: your core. Even the insertion of your lap muscles. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like without that based strength. Man, it's not just
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  Speaker 1: about like how you work out stronger, but it's how
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  Speaker 1: you move through life stronger, just the daily activities. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that has always been and that is a big part,
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  Speaker 1: big focus in my method is just everything revolving around
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  Speaker 1: the core.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So Gymnast at seven, where are we growing.
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  Speaker 1: Up upstate New York? So Delmar, New York, which is
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  Speaker 1: outside of Albany. It's like, you know, maybe five miles
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  Speaker 1: outside of Albany and great little town, great town to
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  Speaker 1: grow up in. I would I can't. You know, all
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  Speaker 1: my Dell Martians out there, hello, but I can't. I
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  Speaker 1: can't say that I would move back there. But I
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  Speaker 1: absolutely loved growing up there. You know, it was a wonderful,
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful childhood that I had just a great just
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  Speaker 1: a great, easy place to grow up, like not a
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  Speaker 1: pressure filled place, not you know, not aware. I think,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've talked about this for it,
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  Speaker 1: but I remember when I went to Boston College. I
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  Speaker 1: think sometimes you don't realize how sheltered you are where
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  Speaker 1: you grow up until you have more of a big
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  Speaker 1: city experience. Not that Boston. I mean, Boston is a city, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's not New York. But I remember just being a
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  Speaker 1: freshman of Boston College and walking into one of my
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  Speaker 1: friend's dorm room and I remember her like she had
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  Speaker 1: a Prada bag, and I remember looking at it and
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  Speaker 1: being like, what's that triangle? Like just not like where
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  Speaker 1: I grew up, Like we just didn't, we didn't brands
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  Speaker 1: like that, Like it just wasn't it wasn't a focus.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with parents that cared about any
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  Speaker 1: of that or even like it just wasn't a thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was just it was just a basic,
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  Speaker 1: wonderful childhood to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Same Kia and I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think I could have told you what
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  Speaker 2: a product logo looked like.
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  Speaker 3: Moved to New York.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this girl she was from Rye, you know,
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  Speaker 1: which we know is right near you know, it's actually
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  Speaker 1: right around me. I live in Larchmont, so it's like
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  Speaker 1: it was Ryan. It was this whole group of girls
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  Speaker 1: from Rye. And they literally looked at me like I
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  Speaker 1: had five heads, Like they were like, you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what this is. And I was like, I think I
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  Speaker 1: was wearing my Forenza Limited sweater backwards with the the
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  Speaker 1: you know in the and I was like, it's not
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  Speaker 1: from a limited, you know so, But but I really
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  Speaker 1: like you guys turn in that place or fashion bug.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of a better way to grow up,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest, than to not not be kind of
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  Speaker 1: jaded with that. Not that not that all people are,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I'm just saying, like, to not be
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  Speaker 1: concerned about it.
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  Speaker 3: You go to Boston College. When you are there, are
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  Speaker 3: you playing sports?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: I played field hockey in high school a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but Boston College field hockey, man was you know, They're
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  Speaker 1: a killer team.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Shout out to the Eagles.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Backtracking to high school as a gymnast, I was, you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I competed on my high school team. I had the
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: boy friend at the time, and he brought me to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: this place called mike Muschudos Nautilus.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: And it was tiny, I mean the small.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: It was like the small you can't call it a gym.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: It was so small, right, and it was like a sweatshop.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: And I he brought me in there, and he always says, like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I you never left, like I created a monster. I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: remember walking in there and like begging my parents for
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a membership and being like, I just I love this environment.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Like everybody's trying to like get stronger, and I wanted
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: to get stronger.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I was a very skin I was very skinny as
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: a kid.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Like I've always like that's I don't have any big
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: like transformation story, you know, but I will say that
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I was the kind of skinny runt in high school
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and strong as anything, you know, triceps since everythimp I've
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: had him forever. But I was really small and I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: remember going stepping into this gym and being like, this
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: is where I can get stronger and like not get bigger,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: but be like feel strong. You know, feel my best.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And I freaking loved it there. And so when I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: got to Boston College. Back then, where you worked out
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: in school was called the Plex, and I would go
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to the Plex and I'd get all my roommates. Every
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: day I'd be like, right after classes, I'm like, we're
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: all going to the Plex.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: We're all going to work out.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: That was my first experience ever taking a group fitness
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: class was at and I can I can't remember her name,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: but I remember what she looked like, and I was
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in awe of this instructor. I was like, how amazing.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: She's got like fifty of us in the plex and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: we're all moving together, and she's just it's like conducting
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: an orchestra, and this is like unbelievable. And I remember
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I just I was just I just absolutely loved watching
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: what she was doing and being a part of it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: And I started. I mean, my roommates they were like
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like they put up us so much. I remember before
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: we'd go out at night, I'd get everybody in the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: ape man and I'd put them in, get everybody in
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the common area, and I'd say, We've got to do
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Tammily web buf blasters. It was like a twenty minute
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: video back You're too young to know, but it was
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like Denise. It was like Denise Austin days, like I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Denise Austin and I love her and she's she's my
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: pale and Instagram now but like same kind of thing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: But it was like, I'm like, we got to get
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: our butts tight and right before we go out.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be amazing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: And they were always like Kira, like seriously, we just
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: we just want to go out. And I'm like, no,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you're gonna feel so good. You're gonna put your jeans
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: on and like boom, We're like we're gonna go. So
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that kind of started my desire to just get people
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: moving and feeling good. I think not having a sport
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to do while I was in college, it was like
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: this became my outlet. It was like, okay, I may
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: not have that sense of community within this within sports,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: because you know in college, especially Division one is Boston
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: College is those you know, athletes that are that are competing,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: they are in they're so tight knit, right they had
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and I would see that and be like this is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: so cool, Like oh my gosh, they have this like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: sisterhood that's so awesome. I can create this in a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: different way. I feel like, let me just do it
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: amongst my like eight roommates at the time. But I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: always in my brain was like, there's got to be
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a way that I just love motive, like this kind of.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Motivating people in this way.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: There's got to be a way I can take this
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and make it like real, you know for sure.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: First note here, eight roommates seems like a lot of roommates.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Didn't you have that in college?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: No?
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I think it's like different in New York.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I think Boston in college. At Boston College, you had
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: depended on the year you were in, but like you
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: had eight mans, you had four mans, you had six
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: man they call them man's, but those were the man
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of like you'd have like four bedrooms in a common area,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's kind.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Of what it was.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: And it totally like whether you won the lottery and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you got the eight or you got the six or
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you got the four, it was like, it is what
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it is, but that's how it works.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: The second takeaway from all of that for me is
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it's interesting to me that when you were in high
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: school you thought it would be so cool to get strong,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and usually we see that somewhere, right, like, usually you
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: would have been exposed to someone else, and maybe it
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: could have just been by walking into that gym, but
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you looked at that as something that would be really
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: awesome for you. And I think that's a really cool thing,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: because not everyone has that type of exposure or would
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: feel that way walking into a gym. A lot of
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: people would walk into a gym like that and be like, hmm,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's it's funny and I did. This
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is where I really do believe, you know, it's been
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: nurture versus nature. Right. My stick, for example, has never
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: set foot in the gym ever in her life and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: has no desire Like I remember bringing her to the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: gym in Boston where I was working at the time,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and she said, I wanted can you just give me
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a basic like arm routine. I just want an arm routine.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And I remember being so excited because I was like,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's finally I like, she finally.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Wants my guidance.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I look over, I'm getting everything set up.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I look over.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: She's literally napping on a bench laying there and I'm like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: are you ready, and she's like, you know what, I'm good,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and like that was it. So it wasn't like we
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: both grew up in the same household, right, So it
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: wasn't something that was necessarily.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Now I lot more attention, for sure.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: To like my dad's habits. Then I think my sister
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: really really did and met with my father. That is
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: where I get my love of the gym, my mother,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: My sister and my mother very much alike. My mother's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: never seen me inside of a gym, God bless her.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Like she does her walk every day and does what
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I you know, the the little bits I've given her,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: but it's always She's always made it very clear, I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: am not doing this for vanity. I'm doing it for osteoporosis.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's you know what that's and that's
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: her thing, and that's great. My dad, he's eighty two now.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I mean before pre COVID, he'd be in the gym
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: three hours a day, two hours a day. You know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of it was him just cleaning off the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: machines because.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: He's meticulous, but like it was a lot of working
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: out too. My whole life.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: He'd come home from work, like come in the door
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and I'd watch him and he'd give us a wave,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and then he'd put his running gear on and he'd
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: be back out the door running within ten minutes of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: getting home. I've never been one able to sit still.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's just what's in me. So walking in that gym
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and seeing feeling this energy, Like I remember walking in
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and literally being like I literally just found my people,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like just kind of looking around and you know, mind
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you at that point, that was nineteen I'd save my
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: first time stepping in a gym like that was nineteen
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: eight nine, nineteen ninety. There weren't a lot of women
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in there, hardly any. I'd say two or three, two
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: or three, and they were just on the stare master,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: like they weren't in the weight room. They were in
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the staremaster. And I'll tell you, Emily, like I just
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and again, I've just had it in me, like I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: didn't even think about like, oh this is intimidating. There's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a bunch of guys around, I don't know if I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: want to do. I would just walk up to it
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and say how do I use this? Like this lap
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: pull down machine?
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Like what is this?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And why do I want to you know, how do
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I use it? I just barged right in and was like,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: just teach me how.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Do I do it?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Do you ever have a negative experience asking for help?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Not? That sticks out in my head, so I can't
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: imagine there was ever. Yeah, I can't imagine there. I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: would have remembered that, But no, I think because I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: was so It might have been because I was small
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, this little blond thing.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Right away, I was like, I'd be like, sure, she's
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll help her out, Like she looks like
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: she could use some muscles, like she had some strength.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Let me help this girl up. I just had no
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you know, my parents always taught me, if you want something,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you asked for it, and if you don't ask for it,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you know, if you don't ask, you're never going to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: know the answer, right, So, and that kind of holds
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: true throughout life. It's like, if you want something, you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: simply ask for it. The only the worst that can
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: happen is someone says no, and then you find a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: way to make it happen anyway, you know, like you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: find your way around and that's it. It's like, never
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: be afraid to ask like it's I think that's a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: really important lesson is that I've never been afraid.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I just haven't.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It's like so someone says no, ideally, you move on,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you know, learn from it another way. You just find
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: another route.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Well, you weren't afraid to ask your girlfriends to do
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: butt workouts with you before you went out in college?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: When does the we should do a butt workout situation
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: turn into maybe I should actually do something with this
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: whole I love to do the fitness.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. I think what happened was.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I my parents, you know, they paid for Boston College,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and they were very by the book, like we paid
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: for your education, we are not paying for an extra
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: gym membership. And I felt like I needed to see
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: what else was out there. Like here I had Boston College,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: it was great. I needed to get off campus and see,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: like what other gyms were out there besides what I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: was just experiencing. So I remember getting on the tee
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and going down. I'd heard of this place called the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Squash Club, and I know it sounds really weird, like
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the squash club is just for squash, but I.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Can't tell you this place was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Anybody who became anybody in fitness that you may not
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: know or have heard of now because they didn't jump
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: on the social media bandwagon, right, They actually gave a
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: heard to that, which is which was quite frankly a mistake, right,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: because they are incredibly talented. They all started at this
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: one place, Squash Club, Alston, Massachusetts, and it was I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: have never seen classes back then, aerobics like step, multi impact,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: all that like this in my life and I don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: think I ever will again. It was I'm talking to
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: one hundred people in a class. They're doing it in
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the hallway. If they can't fit in the gym, Yeah,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: like you can't. I can't express the energy that you felt.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: So I took myself down to this gym and I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: was like, I got to check this place out. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: walked in and again I was like, my people, like
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: what is this place?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Like this is insane.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And there was a physical therapy place attached to it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: It was before it's time.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It was squash, physical therapy, aerobics, strength training, it was everything.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: It was like a big It was the first like
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: big box gym in Boston ever, and I just knew,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like you know, you know, and in your brain. You
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: walk in a place in your or you need a person,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: right and you say, like there's an instant connection that's
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: kind of like the love up there I had with gyms. Right,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'd walk in and just be like, oh, I just
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: want to be around this energy more.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I just want to be around this energy more. Everybody's
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: trying to.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Do the right thing, you know, hopefully for their body
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: on the you know, from the outside looking in, you know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: there's a common theme. There's a community. People were talking
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to each other, they were you know, having a blast,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like moving in this studio together. So I took a
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: job at the front desk, and I was like, I'll
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: work the front desk. It got me free membership. I'm
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: just gonna soak everything in while I'm here. And you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I only worked like you know, my parents were like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: your your job is college, Like this is not what
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: are you doing? Like this is not okay? Like only
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: one day week. So I worked enough just to get
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the membership. But what I did every second I could
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: get when someone wasn't there to check in my look.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I could tell you the out you know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: how this entire gym was like set up, I could
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like peek through and watch the entire room like this
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: what was going on a string change gym. I sat
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: there with a notepad and was just like writing down
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like how people were putting workouts together. I'd watch one
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: trainer and I'd follow, like you know, there's certain trainers
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: that I would watch and other ones that I just
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: knew weren't my thing, Like I didn't, you know, it
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: was like okay, that's I don't really love what they're
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: doing with that. But like I'd watch and I write
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: things down, and then I'd go into the physical therapy
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: clinic anytime I had a break and literally follow this
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: one man around.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: His name was Tim.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Brewster, who was the most incredible physical therapist slash strength
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and conditioning coach slash trainer. The first person I'd ever
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: seen and to this day, like I still believe it
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: who was able to merge the two physical. I mean,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that they were great physical therapists that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: are also trainers. He had a way of not being
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: as pet based but taking his knowledge and really create
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you know how sometimes you
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: get you you physical therapist and again they're wonderful physical therapists,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: but they keep creating a program for someone that's just
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: fitness based. It's a little different because their brain works
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: in one, you know, a certain direction. He I would
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: watch him and he would train people on the floor
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and then you'd go back in the pet clinic. And
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I remember asking him one day, I'm like, can I
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: just follow you around a little bit? And can you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like I won't say here I am again asking right,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I won't like bother you, but I would.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Like to just take some notes. He was amazing.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: He was like, you can a like one d percent
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: follow me around like like a dog, like you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: like anything you want, and ask me questions after.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: And that's what I did.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I like spent any time that was like downtime from
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the front desk in that pet clinic, watching him on
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the floor and learning everything I could and asking him
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like what's the first thing I should do?
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: In mind you remember this was nineteen ninety four, so
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I was a junior going into my junior year at
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Boston College. In the summers, friends were getting internships. I
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: worked full time with that Jim and I remember my parents,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you have to back then fitness wasn't a profession, right,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: It was like a fun thing people did on the side.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily it was I mean, I've seen it all.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I've been in this business for a quarter of a century.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Now when you think about it, it's been twenty five
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: years I've been doing this, so I've seen how the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: industry has evolved. And back then it was like, oh,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that's a fun thing to do. It wasn't like you
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: can make a living doing this, right, So I remember
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: one of the heart one of the hardest lessons. It
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: took years for me to get across to my parents
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that this was actually going to be my profession. Right.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: So everybody's getting internships and my parents are like, h
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do when you graduate? Like what
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Like what are you working towards
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: this summer that?
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: And they were they're not they were not people to
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: put pressure on me at all, but like any parents,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: they're like.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: We're sent you here at Boston College, like your degree,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Like you're getting a degree, what is this really helping that?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Like, what's gonna what.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Were you studying at the time?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: So I changed my ma I changed my major three
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: times in college.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, I started.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: In arts and sciences, and I thought I was going
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to a pre med thought I was going to go
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: like to medical school, like that was what I wanted
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to do. And then you know, at the time, to me,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that road was so daunting. It was like I was like, Oh,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: that's a lot, that's a lot of years down the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: road just wasn't going to work for me.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I was like nope, So I started.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I had a lot a lot in the sciences obviously,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like I had a lot of credits in that.
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  Speaker 4: Somehow in my brain was like, let's try political science.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. So started taking police. I was like, yeah, this
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: is interesting.
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  Speaker 4: What the heck am I going to do with this?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Then met with an advisor who was like, Kira, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't figure this out, like you're.
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  Speaker 4: Not going to graduate on time.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You've got all these science credits and now you've got
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  Speaker 1: Polly SI, like you're never going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: get all that you need. I think I even switched
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  Speaker 1: to economics at one point from Polly sci like one semester.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, let me do this, and that's when
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  Speaker 1: my advisor was literally like like you need to like
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: figure out like what is it that you want to do.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Quite frankly, Bostin College did not have an exercise physiology program.
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  Speaker 4: I knew in my brain what I wanted.
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  Speaker 1: To do, but I was like, it's not here for me,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: but I freaking love it here, Like I don't want
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to transfer, but like, how am I going to make
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: this work with what I really want to do. They
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: had a minor that was health science and that became
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: my minor, but my major ended up psychology And I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: can't tell you how obviously that was is and was
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: super are you super useful? Like I'm so happy that's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: what my degree was in, because you know, I almost
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: feel like as a trainer, it's like movement therapy, right,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And a lot of what I do is a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Listening and a lot and I love that. I love listening.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I love helping people figure out things they're going on
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: in their life. But it's not the pressure of like
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you're sitting in a chair someone's taking notes on you,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: or like a therapy session. It's a different kind of
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: therapy and using what I learned a lot of his
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: common sense in psychology, but a lot of it was
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: like really using what I learned to let them. People
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: open up more through movement when you're moving. Think about it,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: when you're running or you're walking, and all of a sudden,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: if you're one of those people where you can organize
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: your thoughts or this is where like you almost wish
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: you had a notepad in your hand when you were
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: running because you're like, oh, gosh, I'm coming up with
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: such great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: That happens with the client, and when you're training them properly,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: right when you're really listening and asking the right questions,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: they figure out so much more than just what's going
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: on with their body during that time of your Your
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: goal as a trainer is to make them feel better
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: in body and mind right, not just not just the body. Right,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It's not about just fixing or working with the body.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: It's getting into what's going on up here because that
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  Speaker 2: you go after your first fitness certification?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: My uh, going into my senior year at Boston College.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: So the summer of my junior year. I remember going
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to Tim Brewster and I keep referring to him in
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the in the past tense because he passed away five
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: years ago. He was my mentor at the age of
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: forty nine. And what happened happened. He had and this
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: is a tribute to like, this is a great example
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: of like you can look really healthy on the outside,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: but you don't know necessarily what's internally going on with someone.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: But he had a massive heart attack at the age
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: of forty nine, and they call it the widow Maker
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: because there's nothing you can do. And he was married
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: with a two year old and a four year old.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: So and when I tell you this man with the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: healthy like like incredible soccer player, unbelievable physique, crazy energy,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: but genetically right, he was suffering, right, there was that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: there was an issue there.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: So I'm so sorry to hear about that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it was listen, it's but it
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: really I mean, I know we're going off topic here,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: but it was a great reminder to me when it
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: happened of like just a shock obviously, but also like
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a like man freaking enjoy every moment, but b like
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: you just it's it's not just about like the It
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: made me realize that what I love too about training
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and movement, it's not it's not what. It's not how
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: you end up feeling or looking, it's I love the act.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: So it really brought me back to like, I am
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: really doing what I love because I love the act
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: of all of it. It's not the end results, it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it's the whole process, right. So it's like the joy,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the joy is in the journey, not the destination, right
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that it's truly like and it made me, you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: because experiences like that can make you really rethink, right,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and it did make me realize like, wow, I really
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: am enjoying the journey, like it's.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Not I am. I am you know, embracing that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: So that was going into my senior year and I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: remember asking him, like, what's the certification I should get
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and he said start with NASAM. And I still tell
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: people to this day when when you know, talking to
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: trainers about what's the first certification I would get? You know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: that was mine and so I'd say like that and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's a fantastic search. So that
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: was the first one. And I remember, you know, I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: was using my roommates as guinea pigs, like just you know, trying,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: trying everything. But it really again was tim when I
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: graduated from college and again my parents going where's your
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: nine to five? And I'm saying, I'm going to be
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a trainer, like this is what I'm going to do
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: full time, And I remember them saying, like, we're not
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: giving you any money. So if you can't make a
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: living doing this, that's it. Like you need to figure
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: it out, like either you get as they would tell me,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: a real job, or figure it out. And back then, man,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: you couldn't make a lot of money as a trainer,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: like you were not making you were not making you know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I always say it's uh, you've got to earn your stripes.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: You know. It was me at that time training anywhere
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: between eight and twelve people a day and then not
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: being able to pay my rent off of that, so
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: also bartending three nights a week, but also like bartending
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: bar's clothes it you know, it's early in Boston, thank god,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: but going directly to the gym and falling asleep on
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: a massage in the gym because I had the keys
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: because I would open and sleeping for three hours and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: just like jumping in the shower there before my first client.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: But it's like I'm like I'm not giving up, Like
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I know, this is what I wanted to do. But
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it was a lot of years of just you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: really grinding. And I'm such a firm believer and I'm
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: always telling trainers that you know, are starting out in
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the business. I know it's really hard to hear because
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: you see so much of like especially with social media,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like how do I, how am I going
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to do? Why am I not doing this? How do
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I get to this?
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: What do I?
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: And it's like you really, there's no excuse, there's no
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: shortcut for hard work. Like you the only way to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: keep your flame burning is to is to progress slowly. Right.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: You can't. You can't light up. You're going to burn
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: out as fast as you light up, right, It's a
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: slow burn. And it's and you learn every step of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the way. And it's like if you the amount of work,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: like you know, for people that don't know and they
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: just see me on Instagram or whatever and they think, well,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: how did this girl get this?
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: It's like twenty five years, twenty five years.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Of like earning my stripes, you know, and in the
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: slow progression, and it's like having patience to like not
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: not give up because you see what someone else is
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: doing or what they're getting. And I will say that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: It's like when I look at young kids today and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: like young kids day, but when I look at kids, say,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: who are growing up? Like even my nieces and my nephew,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and I see, you know, they live in Bosa, Montana,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: so they actually don't even have phones. But I see
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the I see kids their age on a phone at
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: the age of twelve, and I'm like, how awful? Right, Like,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that I grew up in fitness in
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a time where I didn't know what the person in
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the gym next door was doing. I didn't know what
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the person next to me was doing on their off time,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't there, so I could focus one hundred
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: percent on my path, right and being concerned about me
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: being I always say like the hardest worker in the room,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: but I've kind of shifted that to like over the
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: years now, not being being the hardest work in the
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: room is one thing, but being the smartest worker, not
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: in terms of intelligence, but in terms of using your
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: time wisely, how are you budgeting your time? And it
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean doing more and more and more and more.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: It means like, what is the best way right to
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: end with the result that I want to see using
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: my time in the wisest manner.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: And now that you do have access to social media,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you do have an idea of maybe what the trainer
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: is doing next door. How have you seen that maybe
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: impact how you're working versus before when you were just
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: getting started and you were falling asleep on the massage
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: table and getting up every day and doing it again.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Social media is such a I mean, we could talk
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: about social media for five hours. I am so grateful
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: for it, Like I would be lying if I said
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't love industry.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I really love it, and I love it for what
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I use it for. I love it for the fact
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: that I'm able to offer people free information, right to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: educate people, Like my ultimate goal is to make people
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: feel better, be healthier, and inspire them through movement. Right,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: So what I do on my page is an extension
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: of my business. It's a lens into my business, right,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: so where I'm giving you something for free and then
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: if you want more right. Obviously there's my app, there's
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you know you have that, but I kind of keep
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't say I shouldn't say blinders on.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: I don't keep blinds on.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: You need to be aware of what other people are doing,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and I think that's super helpful if you can compartmentalize
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it where it's like you see what they're doing, but
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you don't compare what you're doing to them, Like what
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: you're doing in the lane you're in is your lane,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean what they're doing is wrong. It does,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean change what you're doing. It may
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: help you evolve, Right, So you might see something or
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: someone another trainer's doing or whatever and go.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's oh is that what?
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Like is that how I should be using this form
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: of social media or like doing that or even you know, listen,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: it's a great looking at other trainers As a trainer,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it's a great way to like help you get creative, right,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: use it for what it is. When you see someone
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: doing like an amazing move, it's like, oh, heck, yes,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: like they just taught me something new and they didn't
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: realize it. Like that's what I hope people get from
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: my peach is that they go, oh wow, like this
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: is awesome. I just learned something new today. And I
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: think it's impossible not to compare. Like there's a difference
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: between comparing yourself and competing, comparing yourself to others and
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: competing with others. I don't believe it's a competition. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: truly believe there is room for everyone in this industry
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and not every trainer or for fitness professional is going
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: to resonate with every person. And that's a beautiful thing.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: It's like the way I train and what I put out,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: it's not going to work for everybody. It's not people aren't.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Not everybody gonna like it, and like you have to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: be okay with that being the case, and being like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that's great if you don't like I'm not, and also
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: accepting like what you're good at and what you're not,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Like I am not a kettlebell like that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I may have.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: My I have one kettlebell sert. I don't pick up cattle,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: but it's just not my thing. It's not it doesn't
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: resonate with me. It never filled my heart. So I
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: will send you to someone amazing who does do it.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: And it's like, don't don't be afraid to do that,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, don't be afraid to share
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: the wealth with someone else. It's like, well, you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: like even when it comes to all aspects of wellness,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I am not a nutritionist, I'm not a registered dietitian.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to send you to someone awesome because they
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: have the schooling and they have the education, and they're
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: going to they will help you in ways I could
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: never help you, right, so, I think, and nothing makes
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: you feel better right in the end, you're helping people,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: regardless whether it's your program or someone else's.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: It's that saying. It's that like comparison is the thief
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: of joy. Like when you're not willing to stay in
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: your own lane and you're starting to freak out, that's
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: when you're like completely losing focus of whatever it is
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: is your mission is your priority.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Because you can't do everything right. You can't, Like I
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody that can would.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Fight me on that.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: It's like you absolutely cannot do everything. You have to
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: learn your strength and your weaknesses. Not be afraid of that. Like,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm good at, I know what I'm
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: not doesn't mean that you shouldn't work on your weaknesses,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: but also like you can't relay that information to someone
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: until Like it's it's when I always say, like I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: don't ever put a move out or and exercise out
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that I don't do myself.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: That's just how I work.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Like if I can't experience it and I can't do
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: it myself, how am I going to coach you through it?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: How am I going to I can't give you the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: proper cues. So if someone comes to me and they say,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: can you teach me I own powerlifting.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Like that, I want to be. I want to be
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I want to be able to do my max you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: like that's a different situation. We can I'll do our
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: max bench or whatever it is. But like, I am
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: not a powerlifter, so I'm going to send you to
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: a coach who is fantastic at coaching powerlifting. It's like,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I think what's happening is people are getting really confused
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: by everything they see out there, even as training. It's like, no,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I should be doing this now, No I should be. Oh,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: maybe I should be. Maybe I should come up with
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: a dance fitness routine.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe I should do.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, no, no, no, I mean what I've
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: always been consistent with is my method is my method.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: It evolves, but I'm not looking at what's like. I'm
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: not doing what's popular. I'm doing what's right. And if
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the two intersect, If the two intersect, awesome party time.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: If they don't like, stay with it because you're going
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: to find your people no matter what, who support what
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you do and embrace what you do.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: When you're coaching between eight and twelve clients a day,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: how do you not burn out?
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Well? I did.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing that not anymore.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: You will like this.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: This is where the growth has happened in this industry
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: or within me? Is that realizing that I used to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: be so proud that I was training between eight and
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: two It's like, huh, I trained twelve people today? How
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: is it possible to give twelve humans twelve hours the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: kind of attention they need and deserve. And I think
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: back to some of my this was back when you know,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: at this point I was training at now the Squash
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Club then became Boston Sports Club, which at that time
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Town Sports International, that was the only gym in Boston.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: There was no Sports Club Ala, there was no Equinox,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: which I did end up working at, you know as
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: well in Boston, but at the time, that was it.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And I think back to some of the clients I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: trained there, and oh my gosh, you think that, like
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: it's like I want to get my hands on them again,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you know, because like not only the growth in my program,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: but also the fact that that last person of the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: day as a trainer. I remember there were times where
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I would look at them and be like, what do
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you want to do?
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: What do you want to do today?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: It's not that my client's job to tell, like they're
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: looking to be like what do I want?
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: What do you what do you mean? What I mean?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: You can't at twelve out You can't at twelve people
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: a day give give what you need to give. So
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: now I think, you know what happened for me is
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: and I also, you know, I was proud of the
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: fact that for five years straight, Poor Town Sports International
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: out of it was like eight hundred trainers in the
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: whole company, you know, because there's like New York, Boston, Washington.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I was a number one trainer in the entire company
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: for like five years, and it wasn't going to engage
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: that how many sessions you do? So me being like numbers,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: being like twelve a day. I was like, I don't
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: competing with myself, not And it's always like about me.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: It wasn't about like I never asked who was the
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: second person, but I was always like how many Like
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I'm still there, right, I'm still I'm still doing the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: most sessions, right, and like, hello, they were making so
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: much money off me, It's like it wasn't my own business.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Which again, like you, I totally encourage everybody as a
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: train of like go to work for a big box gym,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: to start out and get your education and learn those ropes,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: like it's so invaluable what you learn, like working in
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: a in a in a situation like that. But also
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: be smart enough to you know, and this is maybe
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: taboo to say, but be smart enough to walk away
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: from it to when you suddenly when you've got what
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you need and you understand what you're doing and you
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: feel like give the experience and you're ready to to
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: spread your wings. Don't be afraid to spread your wings
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: because you know you are really an independent trainer versus
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: working for a big box it's safe working for that company,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: right because you get your benef and some people have
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: to like you are freed. You're freed to like go
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: off on your own and and have to you know,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: pay for your insurance and all that comes along with that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: But you're also never going to grow beyond a certain level.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: It's like how many years, like five years top trainer,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Like what did that do? Like what what did that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: really do? Besides fatigue me never to the point where
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I wanted to jump ship on the industry, but it
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: but it made me realize like there's got to be
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: another way, Like there's I was getting I was too
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: comfortable doing that, yes, but at the same time exhausted
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: doing it, and it was like, well, why am I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Why am I giving sixty percent or seventy percent of
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: every session to this gym? Like it doesn't make any sense, right,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: So that caused me to start even in Boston, and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you know, doing in home training group fitness was frightening
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: to me as a trainer because I was like, oh,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: there's how many people that are going to be in
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: this room, Like there's no way I can control how
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the form of this. At that point, there was big
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: sixty people. I used to teach just sixty people and
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I freaking loved it. But man, it took me like
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: a year or so to be able to let go
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: like the fact that someone's foot might be slightly in
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: birded or their knee might be adducting just a little bit.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: It's like you have to, like, as long as they're
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: not going to really hurt themselves some of those little things,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you have to like let it go and just briefe
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: and be like they're going to be okay, Like you.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Can only do what you can do, right.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: They're gonna be okay. They're gonna be okay.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be okay, Like as long as they're not
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: gonna you know, blowing the out or whatever. Like it
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: was like you have to And I think that prepared
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: me for quite frankly, like the launch of my app.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: The fact that I.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Mean I waited probably three years longer than when I
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: think back, like everything happens for a reason, But I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: spent a good two or three years not being able
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: to get over in my head again the same scenario
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: that I that happened to me in like ninety eight
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: with diving into group fitness, a few years after just training.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: The fact that no matter how specific I am with
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: my queuing, and you know that is that is my thing, right,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I'm known for like expert queuing, there's gonna be someone
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: in their house somewhere who doesn't have fantastic body awareness
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: and when I'm saying is not connecting and they're not
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: going to be doing it like absolutely perfectly, which no
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: one is perfect, right, But like I couldn't in my
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: head get over the fact that I can't see them,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: and I can't like what the what ifs were like
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: a huge thing to me, Like what if I can't
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: see them? And like, ultimately I'm not making them healthier?
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: They're what if they hurt? You know, they I could
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: end up like smoking to get hurt. And it was
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: like I finally had to let go and say, like.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: You again, you can only do what you can do, and.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: If you know in your heart you're putting out the
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: best quality information that you possibly can and people are
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: going to have fun while they're doing it, that's all
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you can do.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: And that's all I could hope that how do you.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: How do you get to that point? Though? For someone
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: who's struggling to get there, yeah.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: I mean I think it was more. It wasn't just me.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: It was like two clients that I have who one
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: of them is Brendan Fallis, who ended up like he
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: was I have to give him so much credit, both
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: he and Hannah Brothman.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: They were so.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Adamant that he was like, You've got to share You're
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: so he was like, you have to share this with
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the world, Like the way you train and put movement
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: together is so different, Like people deserve to experience this.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And it was also I would say it was also
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Canvas as well, Candice Cameron Beret, who was like, you know,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: my method just clicked with her immediately, and She's like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I've never done anything like this. I've never felt this good,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I've never felt this strong, I've never felt disconnected. People
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: need to experience this, and so my first what I
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: did first, Emily, was I signed an LOI to open
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: a studio in New York City and I was like, Okay,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: that's how I'm going to do because I can watch it.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I can you know, I can.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: See And then I remember for about a month, I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: couldn't sleep and I was coming up with every reason.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Like why this is going to be so hard.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: And my husband looks at me and he's like, this
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: is a time where you should be so excited about
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: what you're about to embark on, and you're not. You're anxious,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Like you're anxious about it. He goes, So you got
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: to step back and are you doing this because you
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: want to do it? Or are you doing it because
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks this is your next step in your career,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Because you've got to figure out, like you have to
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: really want to do this, he goes, and you're also
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: he's like, you think you're going to be able to
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: control every person. You're not going to teach every class.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: You have to hire people to teach the client. And
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: what are you going to do when somebody else is
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: teaching and you don't know that they care as much
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: as you care, And they don't because it's not their business, right,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: so they're not going to care as much as you care.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: No one will care as much as you can you
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: get over that, and I couldn't, and I was like,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: this is not what I want. This is I woke
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: up and I was like I've never felt so good
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: as the day that I was like, I am not
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: doing this, Like I made a decision I do not
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: want brick and mortar, and but I'm going to do
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: a virtual studio. I was like in my head, I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: was like, I know, and I have so many people
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: that are also like, you know, so supportive of what
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I do. And I think that was the first time
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: as someone who like you know, admittedly some a perfectionist
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: for sure, like I'll never apologize for being when people
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: say like, oh, recovering perfectionists like this this whole thing
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: out there that I feel like the word perfectionist has
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: become like a buzzword, that it's a bad thing. I
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: think if you're a perfectionist who can accept that the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: goal of doing something really well, that's the goal, but
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: being able to accept the fact that no one is perfect,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: right if you it's one thing to like have that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: goal of wanting to do really well and wanting to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: do your best, but also you know, as I said,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: being able to step back and say, like, no one's perfect.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: And so I finally had this moment where I was like,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: it's okay that people aren't going to be doing maybe perfectly.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: If your words to you are as good as they
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: can be to convey a message, then again, that's all
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you can ask for.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: It's such an important lesson, like that idea of doing
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: something because you feel it so deeply in your heart
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: and you feel it's very purposeful for you versus like
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: doing whatever you feel like you're supposed to be doing.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: And that the number of people, and I don't fault
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: them for saying to me, like, this is your next step.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Why don't you have your own studio? So many people
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: are saying it to you, and you're going, yeah, why
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: don't I, Why don't I? Like this is crazy, I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: should have my own studio.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: But in my heart of hearts like knowing, like I
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: there's a lot I love. I like a wonderful life.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I love to travel. I clients in LA that pre
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: COVID you know, every month I'm going to see them.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: And I freaking love having the ability to do that.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: You have a break and mortar studio, like you, you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: are tied, that is it? Like you have to be there?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: You can't, you can't. In my mind, I made the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: decision that I knew I wouldn't be able to enjoy
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: life the way I really love to enjoy it, like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the ability to like fly by the seat of my
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: pants and go places and just do things. It's like,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I don't you know at that point, I was forty
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: three and I was like I should be doing less,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: not more.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: This is kind of caused me to be able to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: do more. I'm going to be right back.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: To where I was when I was one one right,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, no, no. And so the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: beauty of you know, the app, which it had its
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: second birthday in the end of February, was that it's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: my It's one hundred percent mine, like I own it
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I can reach so many more people
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: than I ever could have been brick and mortar, right,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Like you can't like that's it, Like that's you're limited.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: The tens of thousands of people that are now subscribed
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to this app, who are from all over the world
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: world not only are feeling their best, but they've made
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: friendships with one another just virtually that are like through
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: the Facebook group and whatnot. That it's so cool to see, right,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: It's like you've created this community that's taken on a
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: it's taken on a life of its own even without me,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: where they're just talking back and forth and want to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: meet and it's like it's the coolest thing. And it's
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: like that I sleep so well at night now, And
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: it's part of it is also trusting myself, and I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: believe anybody who's embarking on something like this with like
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: a virtual digital journey and fitness trusting, like you have
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: to trust that what you do and what you put
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: out is that good. Right that Now when I see
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: people and they tag me on their stories, and of
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: course the first thing I do is watch their form,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I'm so freaking proud when I see like I'm like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it, Like they're really.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Doing this so well, right, So it's a beautiful thing.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: It's like it's it's I'm so grateful that my whole
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: path totally shifted, right. It was like, oh, studio, here's
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: the next rout and it was like, no, I'm going
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: to go this way. And having that in place obviously
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: a year before COVID was so huge, Like I have
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: to say, like the timing of that I was.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: I was set up right.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I was set up for for just like the perfect storm,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you know, for when we all had to go digital.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, thank god, I have this right now, right,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: because yeah.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: You know, says I knew it, just as everyone knew
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: it just came to a halt.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Five hundred and eighteen thousand plus people following you on
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Instagram when they come to your page, they see a
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: woman that is looking pretty good and training a lot
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: of humans and all the things. When you look in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: the mirror, what is it that you see looking back
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: at you?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: I am who I am?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Like, there's nothing I know that my page and what
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: you see on Instagram and you look at me, you think,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I think if you just came to the page, you
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: think it's like she's like a machine. All that's on
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: here is like working out. It's one thing or the other.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes I look in the mirror and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I giggle because I'm like, you get a sense of
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: it in my stories, which is why my stories are
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: so much more. It's why people love them. Right, It's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: like a little bit of me, a little bit of Gary.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: It's you hear me laugh, right, and laughter and humor
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and really truly having gratitude for not just the ability
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: to move, but just gratitude for life, just just the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: fact that I get to do what I do for
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: a living. I get to have just amazing people in
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: my life, my family. I guess I look in the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: mirror and just think, Wow, I'm really fortunate, you know,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: And I don't believe that. It's I hate to say,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: like I'm really lucky. I'm not someone I don't believe.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: It's not luck.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: It's choices, right, and consciously having made choices in my
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: life that led me to a place where I'm just
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: really content, content and still you know, grateful that I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: know there's so much more to come. It's funny. Someone
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: asked me that day on Instagram. They said it was
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: a girl and she was thirty seven, and she said
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: to me, how do you not get upset about aging
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: and your age? I'm thirty seven and I'm already having
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: anxiety over it and can't sleep at night. And my
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: husband tells me just to enjoy the moment. And I said,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: Thought about it, and I was like, oh my gosh, it's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: thirty seven to be like, I think everybody thinks about aging.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody thinks of they're you know, there's you'd be lying
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: to say like, oh no, oh, you know, we know
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: age is just a number.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: It is just a number. It's like it is.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: It's a state of mind, right, And you can't choose.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: You can't stop aging, right, you can't stop growing, but
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: you can choose how you do it. And that's what
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I wrote back to her. I was like, you can't
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: control the number. The number is going to happen, and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: be grateful that you're so blessed that you get to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: keep adding to that, like that is it's a gift
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: that you get to increase the number, right, But you
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: can choose how you how you want to live and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: how you choose to age, and that should not include
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: being worried about the next year. Like you we all know,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: but I hope we all learned after this past year.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, man, you don't know what's going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: so you've got to like literally look at every day
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  Speaker 1: and think every day is like not every day is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a good not every is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a good day, but every day has good in it.
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  Speaker 1: Like as you add the years, you add the wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just planning on getting stronger and stronger every.
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  Speaker 2: Year, stronger and stronger every year. And I love that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: you were talking about answering your DMS.
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  Speaker 3: That one a kind DM.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there are certainly many that pop into your
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: inbox that may not be so kind and are also
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: a little judgmental. I think as much as people online
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: struggle with bullying when it comes to their size, coming
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: hand in hand with the body positivity movement, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: That you get a lot of people in your.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Dms that have something to say about your physique. So
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: how do you deal with that?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not going to sit here and
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  Speaker 1: say that it doesn't bother me. I don't think there's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: anybody that can read some of the really horrible things
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that people say, like someone calling you look like a
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: starved dog, or yeah, that was one of the words,
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  Speaker 1: you look like a man. You know, you can imagine
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: they're abviously.
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  Speaker 4: On your face. You're like, oh my god, but like
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: things where you're just like.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing I do is I look at I go,
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  Speaker 1: what human could actually say this to another human? And
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: what's going on with them that's causing them to have
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: to say this and feel good about like you can't like,
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  Speaker 1: I just it blows it does blow my mind. I'm
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie that someone could, even through a screen,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: type such horrible things, right, And what's even worse is
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: than when sometimes I like, if you get it, and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I'll just happen to look at their profile, and many
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: times I'll say, like mom of three, and I think
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: to myself, oh gosh, how badly I want to write
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  Speaker 1: back to this person and say you know that the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: sand my, you have children, you have like I really hope,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't. I never write back, quite honestly, because
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  Speaker 1: it's just not it's not worth it, right, and it's
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: but usually these people are just looking to they're just
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: looking to engage with you. They're looking to get a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: rise out of you. That's it. That's what they want.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: And I have to say, like, one of the best
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: things I listened to it was Brene Brown and she's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: so brilliant and she quoted the Teddy Roosevelt speech right
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: and it's the man in the Arena And I wish
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I could remember the entire speech, but I can't. But
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: you know, it's basically the way she sums it up
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: in her words too, or that you know, when you've
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: got people sitting in the cheap seats throwing stones, you
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: can't pay attention to those people. They're not even willing
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: to step into the arena, right, you can say all
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: you want, but if you're someone just from the you know,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: if you're looking from the outside in and you're critiquing
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: someone and yet you aren't putting yourself out there, how
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: can you don't give those people the time of day?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: And I think that's so true, and it's very hard.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to pretend that it's like an
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: easy thing to ignore these things, and you shouldn't ignore them.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: I still think like you should. You have to, like.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: You want to see what people are saying, you know,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: like it's it's you have to be aware. You can't
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: just like shut things down, but you can't let it.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: You just can't let it affect it. You have to,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: like you always, I always have to think of it
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: as like what must be going on with this person.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: It's my husband that I sometimes have to like pull
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: off the off the rains, like he's he's also known
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: to go on clients pages of mind when someone's giving
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: a client of mine crap and just go to tell
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: like he's so protective, and I'm like, step away, step away,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: don't do it.
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  Speaker 4: It's worth and we both know it. But you know,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: you have your moments.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I always say, like there's times when I also know,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: like when i'm PMS, like I should not be answering
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  Speaker 1: DMS or.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: Teaching a class, or it's like it's like very self aware.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, gosh, She's like, just not not.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Not today, not today, not today, Like you got to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: know that I care. So what else excites you right now?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: What else excites me?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Well, first and foremost, I'm excited that we're somewhat opening
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: up in the world and I get to see my
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: family that I get to see my I'm an auntie
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm such a proud aunt and I get to
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: see my nieces and nephews that I haven't seen in
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: Almost two years at this point coming through.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: So those like and honestly going out to see clients
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: in LA, which I haven't been able to.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: Do in fourteen months, Like that excites me. This weather
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: excites me. But also just what I have a business.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Wise talking about in terms of business, what it's like,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, just the fact that I have the opportunity
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: to keep building this app as you know, as it
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: is my own I mean, I think when you have
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: something and it's your own business, and you have put
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: your heart and soul into it, like to continue to
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: build it and make it better for people so they
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: can move better. Is there's not a day that goes
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: by that I'm not excited about that.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: And there's so much more coming to.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: That app and a lot of collaborations that are happening
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: with the app, and you know the equipment too, Like
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I've got some good stuff up my sleeve, just as
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: far as it's not just the app, it's the band,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: the sliders, it's the ball, but then we've got a
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: jump rope and we've got four other pieces of equipment
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: that that I've been working on for a year now.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: That's all great, but really where I want to you know,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: what I see down the road that I really hope
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: can make happen. And I'm like, you know, I'm manifesting it,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: but I know that to manifest you also have to,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: like there's more to manifesting than just thinking about it, right,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like that's the first step, but then
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: you have to actually really come up with a plan
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: and what I really want to do. Man, I miss
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: teaching in person, Like I there's nothing I'm so grateful
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: for the app and you know, having a virtual platform,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: but nothing replaces that in person energy. So really what
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I want to do is find a way to marriage
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: the two so when the world opens up a little
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: more and my husband. I've been talking about this for
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: a while but almost starting like a I just am
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: so I'm so like in love with the community that
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: this app has, so to literally do a tour where
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: we've just got like a tricked out r V, which
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, if Gary and I can stay married after
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: this situation, after trying this, this will be amazing because
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: he can't even back out of our driveway without hitting
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: the curve. So seeing Gary trying to drive an RV
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: is just going to be I get, like a reality
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: show in itself, but doing like a tour across country
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: to get out to LA and literally stopping in like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: grocery store parking lots and doing up stoked events where
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: like I just you know, anybody, I just put it
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: out there on social and it's like I'm going to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: be in this spot and I just want everybody to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: come and meet one another and you know, just feel
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: that in person energy, because I mean, this is the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: first break I've taken from teaching live classes in twenty
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: years was COVID and I always I keep saying to Gary,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, I, I that was one of the
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: hardest things about the pandemic. Was like, man, not only
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: you know it's shut down, but it was like, that's
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: not how I wanted to go out. That's not how
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted to hang up my sneakers from teaching. Like
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't want it to be my last class to
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: be determined by a pandemic, not by my own my
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: own lack of desire to teach live classes anymore, you know.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: And because the studio that I taught out like closed forever,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: you know, so that's not even an option. And quite frankly,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: to me, teaching live classes with a mask on, I
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: would rather just do it outside where we can be
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: a part and you know, like enjoy the experience. Really,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: So that's really what man. I think about that, and
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: like I get so pumped about it, just the thought
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: of being able to hang with humans like that, you know, sweat,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: it's like sweat equity, you know, it's like this bond
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: that you forge in sweat that just there's nothing better.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: You know, you've taken classes and you know it's like, man,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: we all miss that feeling.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: We miss coming feeling. Something's coming back.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: It's coming, it's coming back, all right. Closing question here
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: you ready.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: I'm ready. You're freaking me out though.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Right right now, Kira, yep, you have an opportunity to
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: offer the Kira that was sitting in with her mentor
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: watching him whenever she could get away from the front desk,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: excited about a potential career in fitness. Yes, trying to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: make her parents get on board. One piece of advice
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: looking back on it, right now, what do you tell her?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I think I would tell her first and foremost, give
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: yourself grace. So just you know, it took me a
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: long time, as I said, like find the joy in
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: the journey, right, it took me versus being so concerned
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: about how many people.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Are you training? Like how like.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Back then, like I think you know, this profession has
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: always been about serving others like I do believe I'm
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: in the service industry and I forever will be. It
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether you know you're starting in it right
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: now or you've been in the industry for twenty five years.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: You are in the service industry. And I think.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Back then, being so concerned about the numbers and being
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: so concerned about, you know, quantity over quality that I
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: think telling myself, like, have patients, you know, have patience
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: with yourself and have patients, like flex your muscles of
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: patients and things will the universe will unfold as it should,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, one step at a time. I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: think it was and I think any fitness professional this
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: in this day and age should should take that advice.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: It's like, don't be so concerned with what's happening next,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: but appreciate what's directly in front of you and the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: people that you are surrounding yourself with and the clients
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: that you're working with. Man, Like, each one of those
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: people deserves one hundred percent of your attention, whether the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: first client or the last cent of the day. They
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: don't care whether they were first or last clients to them,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: like this is this is their one hour with you,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: So just remember, like how much that means to that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: one person. Another thing I think I would have told
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: my younger self is that you know, I'm such I'm
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: like a huge smiler. I smile constantly, and I don't
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: remember doing that when I was younger as a trainer
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: because I was so intense with like where is this?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Where is this taking me? Like what's next? Like how
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: many people I training?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't like Now I smile like all the time,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: like I work out as man. I don't think.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think I appreciated back then, and I don't
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: think you do it at a young age.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's really hard.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: To appreciate just the simple act of movement, just the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: gratitude towards being able to move your body. I think,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: you know, rather than being like always looking for the
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: challenge of moving your body, just appreciating the actual just
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: act of being able to do so. And I think,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: you know, that's just that's I don't know if that
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: can be taught at a young age, but I definitely
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: would have told myself to just, you know, take more
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: walks and jump, do less box drumps, enjoy your moving
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: meditation of walking or running versus.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: Like let me get on.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Like it's like okay, like there's a time and place
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: for that. But man, like, if I had taken more walks,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I probably would have figured a lot more out.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Kia, thanks so much for coming on the show today.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Talk to the hurdlers with you. How can they follow
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: along with you.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, Curra Stokes Fit is my Instagram, the Cura Stokes
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Fit app. It's my app, Curestokes dot Com. It's my website.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: All the good places like just Google away people. I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: always say, just like Dear due diligence Google. There's all
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: the places to be so I'd love to touch more lives,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: so follow me.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: I'm over at Hottle Podcast and at Emily A Body,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Another Heard, All Conquered.
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  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time